the-dark-ages

[gloomy ridge]

i miss hulk hogan

[merry sapphire]

well yeah half of it is aura farming and causing pain to demons. im talking about the plot stuff in the testaments like the wretch and the great one

[graceful lion]

the wretch is far later than tda

great one seems to be after tda aswell

the testaments took part across a very long time, not a year or two

[shrewd mountain]

I miss Clint mansell

Peak DOOM soundtrack

[shrewd mountain]

At the very most, TDA may end at the start of the argent civil war

I doubt we're gonna exceed anything past that

Hell its a stretch were gonna see the civil war at all

[fleet spruce]

TDA built a nice foundation for that imo

[shrewd mountain]

Were very likely just gonna hunt down the demon lords

We know for a fact we're not seeing anything post betrayal for a LONG time

Since id software and Hugo dont wanna close off future dark ages stories

And the wretch, the great one, and the sarcophagus are eons after the betrayal

Due to hell time manipulation idk how it works exactly

We got 2 more games worth of dark ages content to explore

If each game takes roughly 5 years in between eachother

[graceful lion]

well, the civil war was also around the time of the betrayal

[shrewd mountain]

We may not see the wretch for 5 or 9 years

[shrewd mountain]

It was still a long war

But yea

If we pack the civil war, betrayal, and DLCs expanding on the slayed time in hell

In 2 dlcs, that may be 5 years until we even get that

Unless Hugo wants to explore it through a comic, anime or live action show

[graceful lion]

i mean, we already have the actual plot, we just need to, make it a game

[shrewd mountain]

Execution is a whole different story

How do you make a whole new doom game set in the dark ages with a different combat loop

Will he even have the shield?

Meathook return 👀

How would that even work

Without being eternal ages

[hasty stone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSC3ZWs6eR0

[astral ravine]

do you think they'll release the dlc trailer during quakecon?

[shrewd mountain]

Somethings coming to quakecon

Its only been 2 months I doubt they are even close to a DLC release

I think we're gonna get a content update

But not DLC, theres absolutely no way

[solar cairn]

In winter

[graceful lion]

dlc announcement i dont think so

tag 1 and tag 2's trailers were done a day before the actual dlcs got announced lol

[astral ravine]

tag 2 yes

tag 1 took a while

[harsh egret]

they said they wont talk about the dlc for a while

so i wouldnt expect anything at qc

[spark elm]

Missing 8 gold and a secret on Siege PT1 but I got no idea where those might be.

picked up purple key just in case

[merry sapphire]

thats true, but when hugo says that its gonna relate/lead to the slayer testaments, i kinda expected like the cool important stuff

[merry sapphire]

its probably gonna be the dark ages but taken to the next level, like how eternal improved on 2016's core design and combat loop

[tired nimbus]

could you have missed some gold in the portal sections?

[merry sapphire]

if you cant see them on the map then you might have missed some in these portal sections

probably the room where you get the reaver

[solar cairn]

DLC seems to be in operation for a year

[spark elm]

ah crap

[lunar spire]

Wait how do you have the ornament still

[spark elm]

so the gold I missed might be early on?

yea the rest of the gold I see on the map is claimed, guess there’s a set of 8 I don’t know about

[barren ember]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-3-tentacle-commando-gif-1264107534497448831

[woeful bronze]

In doom 2016 completing a weapon mastery challenge used to boost the gun a bit. It doesn't seem to do that in doom dark ages?

[austere silo]

can someone share me dark ages on steam?

[shrewd mountain]

Too op, the wraith crystals are basically the mastery

[clever dome]

since a recent patch the game is slow outdoor most of the time

[lament lotus]

Day 3 for Ultra-Nightmare. 5 deaths. Three of them from nightmare imps, one from a hell knight, and one from a stone imp

[graceful lion]

you'll get used to it

[lament lotus]

Furthest I've gotten is the first arena in Abyssal Forest

[graceful lion]

oh damn thats like, 14 missions in, mustve hurt

[lament lotus]

Mission 8 of 22

[graceful lion]

ah, must be misremembering

[lament lotus]

Also I am now an SSG believer

[graceful lion]

lot of people say x weapon is good or y weapon is bad, but thats a fair pick

[lament lotus]

Still not touching the grenade launcher tho

[graceful lion]

grenade launcher seems like its gonna be fun tbf

[lament lotus]

The chainshot is always a weapon I'll pick over the SSG, but the latter is good burst damage in the meantime

[graceful lion]

i never understood how to use the chainshot, and probably never will

well i know how it works i just dont wanna learn how to use it effectively ig

[lament lotus]

It's a very solid weapon against enemies that demand parries. Though you do have to buy the first upgrade to make that happen

[proud vine]

see armor demon
shoot armor demon
switch weapon

[graceful lion]

interesting

i always just ssg'd on my first playthrough

130% ultra violence has demotivated me so hard that i dont wanna touch the game anymore

[proud vine]

since the nerf the chainshot is better against armors

[lament lotus]

It's easier when you realize that masteries just give you a weapon skin and don't count towards completion if you've already unlocked them on a different save.

[boreal locust]

At least there is one

.

[lament lotus]

Lost another run to Vagary Champion

[graceful lion]

the first one?

[spark elm]

Likely the sentinel barracks. The Vagary even as an enemy is a jerk.

[cobalt fog]

When is that one event we are supposed to look out for that is going to show the next update for TDA?

[spark elm]

QuakeCon.

[cobalt fog]

What day?

[spark elm]

August 7th.

12 days.

[lament lotus]

Yeah, first one

[spark elm]

I can guarantee the Vagary in doom 3 was a jerk as well.

[vague sinew]

only thing i don't like about the vagary in TDA is the green spit

[frank salmon]

Bonjour, je suis bloqué au chapitre 13 (la destruction des deux vaisseaux). Est-ce que vous pourriez m'aider ? Merci.

[vague sinew]

Comment puis-je aider ? Avec quoi as-tu des problèmes ?

[spark elm]

Oh the vomit even with Mancubi… does get a little annoying.

[vague sinew]

it's the constant spamming of it that's really the problem... they need to tone that attack down imo

[frank salmon]

Je suis sur le dragon et il y a deux vaisseaux avec des canons protégés par des bulles. Je suppose qu'il faut crever les bulles pour atteindre le vaisseau mais je ne suis pas sur. Et je suis bloqué en mode facile.

[vague sinew]

lorsque les canons à bulles lancent des attaques vertes, esquivez-les dans les 4 directions disponibles (haut, bas, gauche, droite). En esquivant ces attaques vertes, vous pouvez lancer des attaques chargées pour détruire les canons.

[cobalt fog]

Does anyone know how to unbind the shoot button on console without getting rid of shield bash?

[vague sinew]

no idea, i'm sorry

[frank salmon]

Merci, je vais essayer.

[vague sinew]

s'il vous plaît, allez comprendre !

[merry sapphire]

why do you wanna do that

[frank salmon]

Je suis nul, pas moyen.

[neon perch]

Honestly they can piss right off for this one.

#videos message

Infuriating.

[solar cairn]

He lacks attacks as if

At least other big demons cause more problems

It’s very slow, and there are few long-range attacks, it’s boring in general

[cobalt fog]

Melee only mode

For fun

[subtle wyvern]

I mean it is pretty clear where you are supposed to go

[spark elm]

Found my last bit of gold for Siege PT1.

[frank turtle]

anyone else waiting for the big patch to play again

[nova shoal]

I reached chapter 20 finally lol

[shrewd mountain]

ok unrelated but wolfenstein is getting a TV adaptation

Im lowkey so hyped

ran by amazing attached with the fallout show team

im optimistically cautious

so many things can go wrong with wolfenstein...

in this political climate i think its the perfect time to make a show about a man killing nazis

[solar cairn]

Counting the days

[frail bloom]

Uh what happened to TDA doesn't need quickswap

Mayo what is this

[hasty stone]

MAYOOOOOOOO

[frail bloom]

I'm fine with rune and/or melee swapping

But c'mon now

[hasty stone]

i wonder how fast hugo sped it up

prolly not much

[frail bloom]

He said faster across all boards

But not enough to break the game

[hasty stone]

rune swap with keys is a good idea

[frail bloom]

I guess like uhhhhh 20% faster

He said it's not eternal levels

[hasty stone]

20% is actually a lot

[frail bloom]

Uh

Hm

[hasty stone]

2%

MAX

[frail bloom]

Well I'm confused

That changes nothing

[hasty stone]

i'm joking

[solar cairn]

Runes 4, it’s long and difficult to go through everything, I don’t see the point

[hasty stone]

😦

[shrewd mountain]

The shield runes feel kinda mid tbh

Not mid since they're super helpful, but

Each one feels like a direct upgrade from one another

And you get them so quickly you have no time to upgrade em

To experiment

[hasty stone]

but its fun as FUCK

[shrewd mountain]

True but

I get ground fissure, barely upgrade it by the time i get the sword rune

Sword rune is miles better

Then I get the turret, and the turrets instantly replaced by the lightning

And the lightning / dreadmace combo is unmatched

Zero reason to go back

[past tide]

has the berserker trophy been fixed yet?

[neon perch]

Heaven Splitter is so fucking busted, I love it.

[hasty stone]

it's just fun stuff

i use them all

[shrewd mountain]

Also lore question

How does green water touching the shield

Mount an automatic turret on the slayers shoulder

[hasty stone]

yeah and you never see the turrent in cinematics lol

kinda weird but i dont know how they could show it on the slayer...

[orchid rover]

Why did they add Mancubi to the Vagary fight

Did we learn nothing from the Holt Slayer gate about permanently respawning heavy demons

[verbal void]

Guys im about to get the money for TDA

[frank turtle]

awesome, it's one of my favorite doom games, maybe even my favorite

[solar cairn]

The game is too easy

[fleet spruce]

hell yeah, the TAG 1 bullshit

[green estuary]

well considering they put respawning heavies in the double marauder fight of the mars core ML
I'd say they don't really mind doing it

two whiplashes flanking a marauder doesn't really strike me as fun though tbf

[frail bloom]

They're removing one of them so relax

Maintains are good for certain arenas it depends

[frail bloom]

Oops

[verbal void]

Im getting it this or next week

[frail bloom]

Try next week

Cuz in 2 weeks we're gonna have a huuuuge update

[green estuary]

I would wait until Qcon

[frail bloom]

Hmmm ye I'd wait actually

What if quakecon has a sale y'know

[green estuary]

true true

but also regardless of sale it would kinda be annoying to start the game for a week and then have it play completely differently the next week

[frail bloom]

Also true

[frail bloom]

So in conclusion, wait till August 7th

If you want

[solar cairn]

2.0 update

[frail bloom]

Not really

[hasty stone]

Update August 7th or 8th?

Maybe 7th because that's when Hugo streams and hey can try the new stuff maybe

There will be a new quake con skin of course and maybe some twitch prime skins also we need more weapon skins...

[solar cairn]

We need more achievements

[verbal void]

BUT I WANT TO BUY IT NOW! peter griffin destroying the living room

[solar cairn]

The Slayers Club schedule includes both Friday and Thursday.

I hope Hugo will give the exact dates on the 31st of the stream

[warm ibex]

New content has been revealed during the opening panel in recent years

I can't imagine this year will be any different. Thursday, August 7th at 3pm EST is my guess

[meager vortex]

nice!

[terse parcel]

Call this a skill issue or whatever.

But anyone else think it’s kinda lame how the shield saw sometimes bounces off the wrong shielded demon instead of the one you’re trying to hit that has their shield completely lit up?

Many times when I know my crosshair is centered on them, it grazes the one to either side of them and screws up the momentum

[shell ruin]

DRIVING IN MY CAR RIGHT AFTER A BEER. HEY THAT DEMON IS SHAPED LIKE A DEER!

[nova shoal]

So i got to chapter 21 and all ill say is this is the first game from id software that has a final boss fight that is actually challenging and epic

Im taking shots of vodka everytime I die and I've skipped about 6 shots and in still up to 7

[barren shell]

ikr

[nova shoal]

And i LOVE it

Sure it's whipping my bitch ass up and down the road

But it's about damn time

Im in the final phase I think

I won't say anything beyond that

But I posted link in the stream section

Doing my first pkaythrough and I set it on nightmare

With the projectile speed maxxed and the parry windoe on the smallest

[mossy geyser]

I think dark ages is a bridge

The game was in fact a bridge between two eras

[leaden stone]

Ill be curious to see where they take the story after TDA

[fickle plover]

do u think they can even continue after the end of tag?

story wise?

[split gate]

The mysterious voice at the end of the Khan Makyr boss fight is left unresolved. While we may find out what it is in TDA or future prequel games, it still needs to be addressed in a future Doom game

[fickle plover]

I personally don’t love the way the doom story went

[foggy dust]

samur is still alive

[foggy dust]

yea lowkey me too, doom 2016 had a good science fiction theme going on but they had to ruin it in eternal in favor or more diverse levels

[fickle plover]

I mean it makes sense why they did it but I like simple killing demons because mad and hell energy is being used by corrupt humans and that’s bad

[vague sinew]

I agree somewhat but i also don’t agree at the same time. I would love more techbases or more cities as levels, but i think that it would get too repetitive at some point

[cunning slate]

But where’s the Icon of Sin?

[silver pawn]

Does the game requires the "Raytracing capable" gpu since the launch?

[dreamy kiln]

I think they took that out in an update, let me check

[dreamy kiln]

Nvm they didn't fix it

[harsh egret]

how would that be taken out in an update lol

[dreamy kiln]

Idk my memory is bad

[vale bear]

Does anybody know why in the Game Slot it says Nightmare (M)*? I have no custom difficulty modifiers, it's the default Nightmare settings...

[stable shore]

[leaden stone]

either or

[mystic patrol]

There is nothing to fix that, the game’s physics are simply built around raytracing. While this is not a design choice that I 100% fully agree on, they won’t be building the game from the ground up again for non RTX broz

[pallid wing]

hyped for new patch. will definitely play this again.

[hard thistle]

it's not your current setting. If you've ever even once changed a modifier in that slot, it will show that

[merry sapphire]

hope next time they show us the wretch, arguebly the biggest mystery in the series ever since 2016

also hope next time they go back to delving in codex like eternal or even 2016 they were a really fun read

[merry sapphire]

its not a bug to be fixed

[vital hearth]

im hoping the patch somehow fixes the weird audio issues i've been having, not sure how to describe it. but basically the audio gets distorted and sounds really strange

[pallid wing]

slomo sliders, quick swap, doubletap weapon class, ... but yeah i feel like all doom games have had sound issues

[vital hearth]

i had no sound issues whatsoever with doom 2016 or doom eternal so not sure what makes this one so different.

[frail bloom]

Remember, it's not the level of eternal

And no, it is not promoting quick swap essentially

Rather, it's to avoid the strict slow nature of swapping a weapon in general in tda

Combine that with blocking while switching and it's much more lenient and you can do much more with it

[merry sapphire]

theres no quick swap coming. they just said that they slightly increased swap speed, thats it. the game still isnt gonna let you hotswap weapons

[frail bloom]

But!

They are looking into melee swapping

So watch out for developments on that

If they want to or not

[merry sapphire]

you actually still cant switch while blocking, the update just lets you now cancel the swap itself to block. giving the shield priority

[pallid wing]

double tap class to change weapons will drastically decrease swap speed for me
i think its pc only tho 😦

[merry sapphire]

which is still great dont get me wrong

[frail bloom]

Hmm well they might have to articulate that

[merry sapphire]

how

[frail bloom]

Cuz many ppl are gonna be confused when their shield still lowers after switching

[merry sapphire]

hugo did say that blocking while swapping will now let you cancel the swap to block/parry

[frail bloom]

Double tap implies console too

[pallid wing]

i hope so

[frail bloom]

In my mind I imagined that you could block and then swap without losing the block

[merry sapphire]

nonono, it means that the shield will now ALWAYS be available to use no matter what. which is great. this is giving the player more control

[frail bloom]

No no I know that but visually it won't give that off

You won't get that feeling since your shield will still go down after switching

Even tho you can still block during an animation

Or cancel it that is

[merry sapphire]

nah, if you try to swap while blocking, its gonna lower the shield visually and functionally i assume, but now you can press the shield button to block or parry, and it will actually stop the swap animation and block instantly

the animation and the swap gets cancelled

[frail bloom]

That's what I know now

But people who hear blocking while switching envision different things

They think visually your shield will still be up after switching

But that's not the case

[merry sapphire]

yup, and for runes too. hope they figure it out how to make it intutive control wise. i dont want to bind 7 new buttons

[frail bloom]

Isn't there a pc mod for this

Does it do what you don't want it to do

[merry sapphire]

yeah but, for that mod i think you gotta bind tons of buttons to switch to what you want

[frail bloom]

Ehh

Well on console I imagine one tap to switch and double tap to switch two melee weapons so maybe on pc it can do the same

Like use one button to switch a melee and double tap it to double switch

Idk

[calm fulcrum]

is there a new patch coming opr is everything coming in the quakcon update

[frail bloom]

Quakecon

Which is next week

On Thursday

[calm fulcrum]

nice

[harsh egret]

Slight correction, not next week, but the week after 🤓

Depends where u live ig

Also pretty random but they first started teasing abyssal forest on their socials just like they did with khalim @frail bloom

So i guess its likely its those 2 + horde mode or smth

As master levels

[frail bloom]

Close enough

[solar cairn]

Can you send me the link?

[frail bloom]

Damn so maybe Khalim and Abyssal forest

I have no idea how they would make a horde mode in 2 months

[harsh egret]

Maybe they spent some time before launch if Hugo mentioned already 2 weeks after lunch that it was coming

[frail bloom]

Hmmmm idk I have nothing to compare it to besides Eternal's horde mode

[harsh egret]

Its nothing special, just 30 sec clip of just showing the ancestral on abyssal forest and nothing else

[frail bloom]

Which took a while to release

Without covid idk how it is now

[harsh egret]

Well they expanded their team a bit and its not covid and this upgrade to the engine seems to speed up dev time quite a bit

[frail bloom]

We shall see

Next week

[harsh egret]

Less than 2 weeks now

[frail bloom]

For me

[harsh egret]

Same in 2 hrs

[frail bloom]

Lmao

I really like Khalim so a master level of it sounds cool

Abyssal forest is a choice

I wonder how it'll look and feel

Will it have enviromental hazards and change how you progress the level?

No clue

[harsh egret]

New environmental stuff for sure ye

[solar cairn]

Twitter?

[harsh egret]

Yes

[harsh egret]

Also im prob scrapping my weapon project thing i told u i started on

[frail bloom]

Aw

Well now what

[harsh egret]

Started to take too long and had to focus on a portofolio piece and I barely get time to work on it since the heat here is unbearable most of the time and i cant properly work, its just so bad

[frail bloom]

When does your vacation end

[harsh egret]

We had 43 celcius here even

[harsh egret]

4th aug

[frail bloom]

Bruh

Might as well die

[harsh egret]

Its hell, ik working on doom fanart in hell sounds cool on paper but its really not

[frail bloom]

Oh so it's close

[harsh egret]

Yeah lines up perfect with the qc update too

[frail bloom]

Sweet

I'll keep going on then

I took a break due to a vacation but I'll be back soon

[harsh egret]

sick man

ye hoping to continue at some point when im done with what im working on

better late than never

feels like i went and did smth thats a bit too much compared to my skill level and it just takes too much time but its ok

[frail bloom]

Well what's late to you

Do you have a deadline

[harsh egret]

idk, a month, 2 from now

[frail bloom]

It's a hobby right

[harsh egret]

no no i want to work as a 3d artist

[frail bloom]

Not that just the side project of working on weapons

[harsh egret]

oh, yeah

[frail bloom]

You can do that on the side whenever

Take your time

[harsh egret]

ill dm u where i got to so far lol

[solar cairn]

Horde mode is probably already in October

[harsh egret]

on the accelerator

[harsh egret]

i expect it now with qc tbh

[solar cairn]

If Hugo will make changes to the balance, then he still needs to make sure that both master levels and horde modes are played well, for 1.5-2 months it is unrealistic

[harsh egret]

good thing hugo isnt working on all of that by himself

[frail bloom]

We assume they worked on those beforehand

[harsh egret]

also id software tends to make devs do pretty much anything they CAN do.
say hypothetically a couple concept artists randomly also have skills in texturing assets as well or smth, they can work on that when they arent doing their primary job pretty much

[frail bloom]

Oh ye that as well

[harsh egret]

they squeeze what they can from the very talented team that they have to do as much as they can do

not saying that in a bad way lol

just smart use of resources

[void ocean]

does dark ages take place before or after the divinity machine

[frail bloom]

After

[void ocean]

is it confirmed?

[frail bloom]

Yes.

By the first opening blurb in tda

[harsh egret]

would be cool for a doom game to start right after the divinity machine

[void ocean]

Thought so, he feels way too strong

[harsh egret]

but not enough to tell i guess

[harsh egret]

they made him strong and in return put him on a leash to control him

hence the tether and the glowing eyes

[void ocean]

I see

idk why but he feels stronger in this game compared to the other ones

prob just because of the gameplay

[harsh egret]

cuz u feel like a tank sorta might be why

[void ocean]

yeah

that's it

[harsh egret]

a byproduct of this power fantasy but lore wise he isnt as strong

he gets kinda humbled in the azhrak fight a bit too

[void ocean]

haven't got there yet

[harsh egret]

oh fuck

[void ocean]

it's ok lol

[harsh egret]

well im sorry lol

yeah its not crazy spoilers what i said tbf but ye didnt know

where did u get to so far

[void ocean]

i feel like it's because azhrak plays smart

[void ocean]

just got out of the ancestral forge

currently in hell

[harsh egret]

ye he is playing it pretty smart

[harsh egret]

i see

[void ocean]

i feel like im unstoppable now, got a fully upgraded rocket launcher and super shotgun

doubt ill have trouble from now on

[harsh egret]

a big part of why the slayer feels more powerful now i think is also cuz of the music, the game has some of the most badass tracks in doom imo

[harsh egret]

nice

[void ocean]

yeah they're a bit different from the usual but still hit hard when needed

also could be the fact the ground shakes when you sprint

[harsh egret]

abyssal forest and ancestral forge has my fav tracks

[void ocean]

😂

[harsh egret]

lol

[void ocean]

also love how when you fall, the enemies take fall damage instead of you

[harsh egret]

yep

[void ocean]

aight im gonna jump into it some more, cya

[harsh egret]

hf brother

[maiden onyx]

sound design as well. there is so much punchiness in the melee compared to eternal's wet meaty slaps & 2016's body snapping

[void ocean]

yeah, sound design is probably the main thing

[spare carbon]

yo!i'm getting an error saying sorry,something went wrong,what should i do?

[rare wolf]

Does anyone here know which attacks will ignore the game's death protection state? I know there are a few like the Cyberdemon and the imp stalker slash, but any help with more would be greatly appreciated. Trying to find a comprehensive list for an in depth video rn

[harsh egret]

I think the pinky bite has one shot protection but they will change that after they add a visual update to the attack

But atm u have oneshot protection from it at least

Maybe wait until the quakecon update or smth with the vid, just in case

Who knows what else could change

[rare wolf]

From what I'd seen, the pinky bite overrides the Death pro too. It seems most attacks that leave a yellow slash/bite will ignore the death protection

but I think there are a few others as well

[harsh egret]

From what i remember, Hugo talked about it having no protection but they made it have oneshot protection again while they are working on a visual update for it

[green estuary]

I guess pinkies just ignore death protection no matter what game they’re in

[rare wolf]

ohh dang interesting

[harsh egret]

I havent played the game for over a month cuz im not home but that i do know about

Other than that im not actually sure

[shrewd mountain]

I JUST FINISHED ULTRA NIGHTMARE LETS GO

Finally completed every UN in modern doom

[harsh egret]

Good shit bro

[verbal void]

No way this is the cacodemon

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-demon-cacodemon-gif-2022492627105848245

[vale bear]

I suspected that... so there's no way to remove it... even though I'm playing with the standard Nightmare difficulty...

[shrewd mountain]

its a hybrid cacodemon

[hard thistle]

nope. Unless you start another save slot and don't tamper with the sliders

[solar cairn]

I didn’t find what you were talking about on Twitter, the village of Kalim is present in the video section, but there is no new one

[harsh egret]

It was before it.

Before those 2 vids

Like i said, the vid itself is nothing special either way

[solar cairn]

It will be funny if it’s not a teaser of master levels, but just posts with videos..

[harsh egret]

Ye i doubt that

[stone crag]

did they give up on the game? theres no updates since the start of the month

they havent added anything since the release

[frail bloom]

No dude

We have been getting balances and bug fixes since launch

And we're abt to get a huge update in quakecon with new content

[stone crag]

whats quakecon

[frail bloom]

Guaranteed master levels and maybe a horde mode

[frail bloom]

An annual convention held by ID or smt

[stone crag]

oh

[frail bloom]

They show off smt new each year

Or just celebrate past releases or talk abt them or literally whatever

Smt smt ID and people related to them

Like Nightdive

[stone crag]

oh

man im waiting for new content since i 100% the game

[frail bloom]

Where do you live, just asking

Like USA

Or Europe

[stone crag]

neither

mid east

[frail bloom]

Hmm, what's the date

On your calendar

[stone crag]

28th july?

[frail bloom]

Quakecon is in on August 7th

In Texas

So you will have to wait abt a week

Well next week

So it's really close

[stone crag]

oh okay

been waiting since the start of the month so whats another week

[pine terrace]

I'm excited for quakecon

[hasty stone]

next thursday

maybe the 7th will be a patch

or the 8th?

[frail bloom]

7th

The 7th

[hasty stone]

[frail bloom]

Spaghetti boi

[solar cairn]

Week after

[spark elm]

Next chapter to 100% is Hellbreaker (Chapter 11)

[frail bloom]

Not hard trust

[spark elm]

Just extra exploring.

[pulsar shard]

hi

[frail bloom]

Hello

[pulsar shard]

just got the game

[frail bloom]

Yipee, are you aware of the huge update next month

[sour crater]

what is the best weapon to break armor

armored arachnotrons and mancubi got me tweakong

[frail bloom]

Flail

For guns; ssg, chainshot, accelerator

[solar cairn]

SSG + Chainshot

[sour crater]

holy do i hate nightmare imps

[solar cairn]

What difficulty and slider settings do you play with?

[sour crater]

nightmare 130%

[solar cairn]

We Need 150

[verbal void]

Imps give me the most pain. No matter what game

[green estuary]

imps in eternal are surprisingly chill
although they've definitely been replaced in the "go f yourself" department by the gargoyles

[solar cairn]

Revenant + demon who moves like a snake..

And the demon who calls his copy for immortality is generally a pain and trash

[sour crater]

the cosmic baron makes me want to break something

literally my pfp

change that

its now the acolyte

[lament lotus]

Day six or seven of Ultra Nightmare attempts.
Died to a basic soldier so I tried to exit out to retry the level out of embarassment. The death marker still shows up and I got karma'd by dying again in the next encounter. Don't cheat, folks. The armored mancubus of judgement will claim you.

[silent surge]

what’s your PB?

[lament lotus]

First encounter on Abyssal Forest

[neon perch]

Finished UN.

That last level was so annoying.

[silent surge]

what made it annoying for your run?

[neon perch]

Leaders.

[lament lotus]

For me it's the nightmare imps

And also a busted controller, I found out

[terse parcel]

Now at Abyssal Forest at max settings

Those arenas in Siege part 1 were so messed up

[lament lotus]

There's where I was when my controller hit the fritz

I'll double check in the morning

[terse parcel]

That last arena in Siege part 2 wasn’t as bad as people told me it was

But still, getting in that PERFECT spot to duel the cyber demon without getting chipped off by fodder was such a gruesome challenge

[solar cairn]

Doom TDA not dead..

[rare wolf]

is there anything in the game files that specifies what the headshot multiplier is?

[silent surge]

it is not dead

[silent surge]

you’re doing max sliders?

[merry sapphire]

i was gonna say im curious to see what a cosmic pain elemental would look like but honestly im even more curious on what a reguler demonic pain elemental would look like in the dark ages

holy shit allstin

[solar cairn]

The game emphasised seriousness and seemed to have lost the charm of the eternal

There are some demons of funny swallowing grenades..

[warm ibex]

holy shit is that allstin

[merry sapphire]

holy shit horde mode Gaming

[warm ibex]

no fucking way it's shivero

[merry sapphire]

Dude No way

[warm ibex]

this is epic

[merry sapphire]

ngl i loved eternal's style but i think its nice how they change it up everytime

check out My Post in #videos !

[green estuary]

honestly I never found eternal to be all that charming lol
sure, some interactions could be funny at times, but as fantastic as the gameplay is I think its overall tone and storyline are by far its weakest aspect, and realistically the worst out of the three games

[terse parcel]

Max everything

Max damage to slayer

Least damage to demon

Least resource value

Highest game speed and smallest parry window

Not sure if there is a specific name for a run like this

unless it’s just called “max slider” lol

[split gate]

Somebody called me, holy shit is that Horde

[split gate]

I couldn’t take Eternal seriously 😔

[solar cairn]

Well, there is a relaxed atmosphere in general, even HUD is customisable, various funny skins, the doomguy room is also funny in places and just fan service, and in TDA there is only gloom, I’m not even sure they’ll give a QuakeCon skin

[green estuary]

If you think TDA is gloomy, I don’t want to know what you think of doom 2016

And hell no, doom eternal is the very opposite of relaxed

Everything is just full speed all the time, especially as you get to harder content
You relax for a second and you just die lmao

[solar cairn]

In TDA, the whole atmosphere of the game, the palette of colours and so on directly gives a serious Middle Ages, I’m talking about it, as if different colourful skins from Eternal will not fit into the overall picture and therefore they will not be added

As if the developers initially chose such a gloomy tone and there will be no skins, except for those that are suitable for the game in their opinion

[solar cairn]

There are no skins in 2016, it doesn’t apply to him

[green estuary]

Why are skins even that important? I thought we were talking atmosphere

You don’t even see the skin you have beyond your left forearm for 99% of the game

[solar cairn]

It’s just like an example

[green estuary]

Eternal just has huge tonal clashes that are impossible to ignore
At least 2016 and TDA are consistent

[ornate terrace]

Man I really hope this game comes to switch 2 one day! 🤞 I’ve thought about maybe they lower the resolution on some things and do some stuff to make it work for switch 2

[green estuary]

Whether or not you’re a fan of said tone comes down to purely personal preference

[green estuary]

Just out of curiosity, how much vram does a switch have?

[ornate terrace]

Like a normal switch or a switch 2?

[harsh egret]

Wasnt there rumored to be a switch 2 direct focused on 3rd party games like at the end of this month, aka like now

[green estuary]

Switch 2 I guess

[ornate terrace]

Well I hope there is bc I would love to watch it and see what were planned on getting in the future, and the switch 2 has about 12gb is what I’m seeing from google

[harsh egret]

Ye its rumored to be on the 30th

Do they usually not talk about it at all even this close to it?

[naive wigeon]

gives people more things to grind for

[ornate terrace]

I don’t really know tbh? I myself don’t really pay that much of attention to news and stuff

[green estuary]

I was referring to skins in the context of discussions about the game’s tone/atmosphere

[slow zodiac]

Doom eternal feels like an arcade game to me and everything plays into that vibe in my opinion. From color pallette to UI to enemy designs to music to skins etc.
That's why it feels so charming to me. There just isn't a single AAA videogame that I can think of that had tried to create that sort of vibe. Nintendo are like the only ones who still make stuff like this

[harsh egret]

Different games, different vibes

[naive wigeon]

ohh oops

[green estuary]

I don’t mind the arcadey feel
I just think that feel clashes with how seriously they try to make you take the story

[slow zodiac]

There's also a few arts in the TDA artbook that have huge He-man vibes and I hope they'll come back to that in the future

[naive wigeon]

i wish eternal had settings to make it look the way it did in e3

[slow zodiac]

eh, I think it has enough of ironic stuff in it to not feel too serious

[naive wigeon]

the old hud that was showcased there was wayyy less distracting

[harsh egret]

They realised they didnt fully commit to the arcadey vibe so they had to change it lul

[slow zodiac]

I think I'm a minority for liking the HUD they ended up with

[harsh egret]

I like it too

[naive wigeon]

dark ages hud is a good mix between being arcadey without looking like its doing too much honestly

[ornate terrace]

I feel like this game could totally work on the switch 2 if they just lower some textures, make it longer loading times and maybe do 30fps in handheld mode and 60fps on tv

[slow zodiac]

I personally would've prefered TDA to have a more stylised HUD, but I like how they placed the elements on screen, especially the Mugshot with health and armor in the center

[harsh egret]

When the switch 2 got announced i think Marty mentioned that they only then got in talks with nintendo to see what they could do

So its possible by now

[ornate terrace]

I believe it could happen and work

[harsh egret]

Also apparently nintendo announces their events 24 hrs in advance usually so its still possible for the event to be on the 30th

[naive wigeon]

the mugshot is so goated

[vale bear]

Oh pity... thank you anyways 😉

[terse parcel]

Do whiplashes have any armor?

Even at 50% damage, I shoot half a full round of shredder and half a full round of plasma rifle ammo on the thing and they just refuse to die

[short mountain]

nah they’re just really tough

[spark elm]

Now I’ve just got chapters temple of lomarith, belly of the beast, harbor of souls, and reckoning to 100%.

[chrome raptor]

I haven’t played the game yet so no spoilers

[split gate]

Oh by next weekend, the update will be upon us lads

[split gate]

Bro why are you here, you’re better off not even seeing the chat here, anyone’s going to say spoilers

[chrome raptor]

I like adrenaline

[split gate]

Understandable

[proud vine]

The doomslayer is in the game

Also he has guns

There are also demons in the game

[short mountain]

okay this is epic

[split gate]

The guy from Fortnite is in TDA 😱

[fleet spruce]

It definitely has the firepower to run it but you're most certainly NOT getting 60 fps, primarily due to ray tracing. Though with DLSS upscaling and framegen something like 40+ fps boosted to 120 should be plausible.

[merry sapphire]

40 base fps boosted to 120 fps with framegen sounds like a visual nightmare

framegen only looks good when you have a base framerate of 70-80. or atleast above the minimum 60 fps

[fleet spruce]

Not really

[harsh egret]

2x framegen on a switch sounds pretty alright to me

[green estuary]

Input latency starts becoming a problem when your base frame rate is too low and you use flash

Also artifacts start to pop up

[subtle wyvern]

That's 3x though

[green estuary]

40 fps boosted to 120 fps sounds like an absolute nightmare

[subtle wyvern]

Unless you were suggesting a compromise?

[subtle wyvern]

I had frame gen enabled on the game by accident once and I knew immediately because it just felt wrong

[hasty stone]

Frame gen has artifacts at any frame rate I don't use it for fps games

Only good in cyberpunk I guess

[inner wigeon]

People always call doom tda’s music generic metal but I’ve never heard anything like this. Mind giving me examples of similar sounding metal?

[green estuary]

they only call it generic metal because they don't listen to metal

it obviously sounds more traditionally metal than mick gordon's stuff
but it's in no way generic

[inner wigeon]

I don’t either lol, I watched a video dunking on tda’s music for three real reasons, the music “blends into the background and doesn’t immerse you” (I don’t see this. I’ve found myself restarting whole levels to Shazam music.), it’s “generic rock”(?????), and it doesn’t adapt to the scenery around you (blatantly wrong. You get things like from the ashes and all that when you go into the cosmic realm)

That’s a lie

From the ashes doesn’t play in the cosmic realm

[harsh egret]

ye meant just in general

[fleet spruce]

Precisely

[harsh egret]

tbf i dont regurarly listen to metal but i dont think this is very "generic"

to me it just sounds heavy and badass and most importantly, like doom

[frail bloom]

Guys Doom tda is a BAADDD doom game!!!!

Here's muh list!!!!!!

[wheat sigil]

bad game but good doom game

[frail bloom]

It's only campaign! WITH NO SIDE MODES!!!!
The shield is too useful my weapon choice doesn't matter!!!!
I can't switch faster or block while switching(little do I know)!!!!!!!!
Bruh the exploration is poo poo it handholds you so bad!!!!
The story is sooooo bad it makes Doomguy a stoic he man bland boring!!!! Ahzrak isn't intimidating!!!!
The music also sucks it's bland and boring!!!!!!!

[green estuary]

[frail bloom]

Verbatum

[green estuary]

the number of times I've heard that same cliche

[frail bloom]

Oh yeah I forgot

NO GLORY KILLS RAAAAHHHHHH

SO IT'S BAD DOOM GAME NOW RAHHHHH

I got this from a guy called Ziggy on youtube

[wheat sigil]

no you haven't
you've only heard the reverse

[frail bloom]

In seriousness, a lot of his points are null specifically in gameplay, for exploration I somewhat agree, and story I think he didn't pay attention enough but that part is subjective

[green estuary]

oh wait

whoops

[frail bloom]

He says it has no replay value which for now you have the sliders. But literally next week that is all abt to change

Master levels, balance changes, a potential horde mode

And apparently you kill enemies the same way

That's your fault!!

I kill all enemies in eternal the same way according to him!

So many normies

[lavish kindle]

Every single one of these is a valid criticism except the first.

[frail bloom]

The gameplay side of things is abt to change this week and for a year

Eternal didn't have all it's side modes on launch

For exploration and story he can think whatever

For music at this point if you can't explain why, why would I agree with it

Sepcifically for story if you think it's boring whatevs.

But it's written much better than eternal's like c'mon

For exploration, it only gets tedious if you make it tedious

If you don't want to scour the map for a 3 gold you can also do the mission challenges

But literally no one remembers the mission challenges

Like it's only in this game has the criticism "the music just blends in" is heard a lot

And ye to some point I agree

Holy moly look at that paragraph

I gotta stop yapping

[vital hearth]

while i can't hear the music half the time due to weird audio issues(it gets heavily distorted so all i hear is loud distortion similar to an analog tv channel with nothing on it) when it spikes a it but when i do hear it isn't that bad

as someone who listens to metal i didn't see it as super generic it was just fine at getting the job done

the classic doom game bad because different argument

they did this with doom 3 and now its with doom the dark ages

[frail bloom]

Try listening to mixes on youtube

I reccommend thedinosaurheretic

[hard thistle]

Here's the thing. This non-djent metal, or whatever it is called, works here because it leans into medieval-ish setting.

[frail bloom]

For specific songs, try...

Infernal Chasm
Into the Void
Unholy Siege
Unchained predator
Blood Red

And Atlan Battlegrounds

And if you're still here,

This is my Boomstick

Which is a "From the Ashes" and "He is out there" mix

[spark elm]

Infernal and Blood Red are my top tracks

Oh what lies below and steel beyond the grave are other insane ones

[harsh egret]

what lies below, into the void, pursuit of demons (underrated imo), from the ashes, blood red, theomachy

some of my favs

actually imma switch out blood red with unholy siege there

blood red still like A tier

[frail bloom]

I like Blood Red more only cuz of that orchestral segment

Genuine goosebumps

[harsh egret]

ye no its great

[maiden onyx]

I LOVE that mix, actually so good at getting my blood pumping

[frail bloom]

Ye it goes from sad to energetic

Very underrated

Like very

It has one of the few melancholic tracks

Like very few

[maiden onyx]

yes!!! i do really like stuff like urdak’s ambient music & the unreleased residual from 2016. Doom never fails to pull it off for me

[hollow sandal]

Is your profile Pic from the album cover of meteora?

[fleet spruce]

Steel Beyond the Grave is also great

Hellspawn Rift

[fleet spruce]

My favourite mix of it so far
https://youtu.be/hLzToCT1LUE?si=pq-tkzhR4I6NxS4K

[hard thistle]

Yep.

I think it's an anniversary cover or something.

[hollow sandal]

Awesome, it makes me happy to see it

[daring bridge]

Were there any major performance updates since the game came out? I often heard ppl struggle with bad fps but honestly it runs perfectly well for me just as eternal did

It's supposedly on low graphics but still looks awesome

[harsh egret]

Iirc it was some driver issues that caused crashes, not actual frames issues

But from what i know most of that has been fixed

[daring bridge]

Oh that makes sense, the game didn't even let me play before I finally updated my 2024 drivers lol

[harsh egret]

Ah nah those were issues even on the newest drivers when the game launched

Crashes i mean

[daring bridge]

I see, alright ty

Just noticed the game was on gamepass lol wouldn't pay the 80 eur elsewhere, so far it's nice but I keep spamming shift for dash

Sad they removed that

[solar cairn]

It is unlikely that there will be anything large, but I suspect that they may release some other graphics mode where RT does not consume so much resources

[harsh egret]

Lol wat

[daring bridge]

Which is exactly my point lol, according to minimum specs I should be hardly running the game

2070 super

[harsh egret]

One of the games with the best RT implementation isn't getting anything changed to it

They optimized the hell out of the game, its perfect

[solar cairn]

The game basically doesn’t need RT, I don’t know who made it do it

There is no denying that if the game was less voracious, then online would be higher

[harsh egret]

Bruh what am i reading

[daring bridge]

According to some wise redditor it's supposedly easier for development

[green estuary]

it is

[harsh egret]

According to the engine lead guy

Lol.

We literally had this same conversation like 2 days ago man..

[green estuary]

people keep saying this, and it's pretty unreasonable
the game is more generous with its min/recommended requirements than either eternal/2016
people just complain about it because ray tracing = bad or something

[solar cairn]

Well, it doesn’t sound very good either, they force players to substantially update the hardware

[harsh egret]

The game doesn't require anything more demanding than what eternal did when THAT released really.

[green estuary]

less demanding, in fact

[harsh egret]

Yeah that tends to happen every 4-5 years bruv

[daring bridge]

Which is understandable tbh, but like I got this rig 5-6 years ago and it's running just fine

Only game I struggle with nowadays is tarkov

[harsh egret]

Thats what i mean ^

Tarkov thankfully got dlss a while ago

I used to run it like shit on my laptop 3 years ago

[solar cairn]

Many do not share this opinion(

[harsh egret]

Thats literally a fact

[green estuary]

bro TDA requires a 2060 super lmao

this isn't some sky-high technical requirement or something

[harsh egret]

Ye ive seen ppl run 60fps plus on that

[green estuary]

it was already a lower-end graphics card 6 whole years ago

[daring bridge]

To be fair I really don't know why do they keep improving graphics that much, like it peaked somewhere around 2018-20 and they just keep adding tiny details that require hundreds of investment

[solar cairn]

Players just want to kill demons in 100+ fps instead of pulling out barely 60, what’s the point of an innovative approach to development if it reduces the fan base?

[harsh egret]

Rt isnt about graphics only in this game tho

[harsh egret]

So ur telling me most people arent upgrading to smth above a 2060s in the past 6 years?

Are u complaining on the behalf of the gtx users? Cuz if u still have a gtx card then im sorry but what the hell lol

[green estuary]

by that argument, why make any graphical improvements in any game ever? there were plenty of players with close to min requirements in eternal running 60-80 fps when it launched, but people conveniently forget this because it now runs at high framerates on hardware that was released 4+ years after launch

[fleet spruce]

You tell me , Doom 3 happened.

[harsh egret]

Lets act shocked when new games run bad on gtx and low end rtx cards 7 years after rtx cards started to come out

Theres plenty of games nowadays that run noticeably worse than tda while having no RT requirement

[maiden onyx]

so the witch's body was a temporary vessel

does that mean she probably survived?

[fleet spruce]

Most certainly not dead

[calm tangle]

I also got the sense that she's not dead, but can I ask where did you hear about it being a temporary vessel? Just curious

[maiden onyx]

codex:
Born from the congealed madness of the Cosmic Realm, Ulsamir (known only as the Witch to the denizens of Hell) is a living conduit for the dark magic coursing through her alien dimension. Her current body is but a temporary vessel, fragile and fleeting, used to manifest her malicious spirit in the physical world. Though she and her cult of chaos worshippers have allied with Prince Ahzrak, Ulsamir's allegiance is tenuous.

Her ultimate loyalty remains with her own god, whose return she tirelessly seeks to ensure. She trades with the demon prince in ancient currencies of power - safe passage between realms for her dormant god in exchange for forbidden secrets buried in Argent D'Nur's hallowed depths. For her, this alliance is but a means to an end—a step toward fulfilling her higher, inscrutable purpose.

[calm tangle]

I see I see big 🆙 s for that

So does anyone else get waaaay more of a Byzantine/Roman vibe from the Sentinel Architecture than Gothic? I always thought the domes and spires gave off a much more Roman Empire look than anything too medieval frankly, which to me is way, WAY better because Byzantine architecture is underrated, it fits much more with the sentinel warrior culture, and Gothic architecture in games is starting to get old

Would post pictures but I can't seem to be able to

[harsh egret]

do what i do

dm pics to some discord bot then copy the media link and paste it here

[calm tangle]

:/ do you have any bots you can share lol how do I do that

[harsh egret]

i just send stuff to mee6 xd

[calm tangle]

Is that allowed too? Like will the mods get mad at the workaround?

[harsh egret]

if its related to the channel then no

i didnt see anyone get any warning for that so far at least

ive done it myself many times

[calm tangle]

Seems kinda wierd then - like why not just let users post images

But I definitely get it

[harsh egret]

yeah no clue

[calm tangle]

It's telling me attatchments aren't allowed lol

Well that's okay thank you regardless it's not a big deal

[harsh egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1399475734392733847/image.png?ex=688922d8&is=6887d158&hm=1a303ab19d084c4ffcc268c047a58f6be2a0c99e2decced5b1cb073e5a36fdfa&

u gotta click on that

[calm tangle]

Wat

You right click?

[harsh egret]

not message link, "copy link"

yh

without fullscreening the pic

[calm tangle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/928122210898571275/1399476544023302384/DOOM_The_Dark_Ages_Screenshot_2025.07.28_-_15.21.45.91.png?ex=68892399&is=6887d219&hm=d333facef4007b7629f04bb1e086247e970b7e0a457a3010110f5bd7027dea77&

[harsh egret]

eyy

[calm tangle]

Lol alright thank you

Bizarre

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/928122210898571275/1399477303553163396/image.png?ex=6889244e&is=6887d2ce&hm=0963dcadf500c89444875af079b1e8371c2f3f9989b8acbb12a98dfafd99920a&

Anyway this is what I was getting at

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/928122210898571275/1399477416707231915/image.png?ex=68892469&is=6887d2e9&hm=b8ce050df440e917d52757d1878c1d2d94bec1e035a7bcbd0bcc1f7ba5e177de&

[harsh egret]

i see what u mean

[calm tangle]

Haven't really seen it mentioned anywhere else but I like me some Byzantine, I'd take it over Gothic any day (even though they're still pretty similar)

Well actually not really

[maiden onyx]

"With sword and shield of adamantine strength, the Doom Slayer set to banishing all that were left unbroken by his savagery to the void."

do you guys think doombro used the cosmic realm as a dumping ground for annoying demons?

actually nvm, that's definitely just fun wordplay

[calm tangle]

Wouldn't put it past him

[harsh egret]

they better give doomguy a sword melee in the dlc

medieval doom yet no sword

u got melees that punch and kick, flail that hits hard and a bonk melee
now we need a sword melee that stabs

[maiden onyx]

it'd be cool if you could with disarm (literally) demons with a sword

[harsh egret]

or slashes or smth

yeah would be sick

[maiden onyx]

cut off the tyrant's rocket launcher or smtg

[harsh egret]

sounds more like smth that would be in the next game

to imrove on the de-limbing aspect even more

[maiden onyx]

actually no you're right. I think it would clash with the shield as that kind of already gives you the cutting through enemies vibe

[harsh egret]

they should make hellknights be able to lose their feet and make them crawl around

[maiden onyx]

revenge for all the hellknights that were chacha sliding to hit us at high framerates in doom eternal

[harsh egret]

idk, i just feel like they can do some crazy stuff if they work even more on how delimbing affects demons

and what can and cant be delimbed

[harsh egret]

lmao

[maiden onyx]

i would make a point of the crucible being a sword of adamantine strength, but tbh it kind of feels like glass and the hilt snap is just...

[solid nacelle]

Dude what is it with the cacodemon projectile, the one where you parry that he charges up, sometimes he just fires it instantly and you get no room to react

[maiden onyx]

not encountered this before, how instant are we talking here; is there no green flash?

[warm ibex]

i'm late but hi

[solid nacelle]

There's a flash but there's no charge up towards it like there's supposed to be

[maiden onyx]

fascinating...

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[solid nacelle]

It goes something like this
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1378414770763595933/1399484833796849844/baf249e9-e352-47b3-9d72-a1c5ef0977a8.mp4?ex=68892b51&is=6887d9d1&hm=c9276d0b1120a3c995434d6851b6f9487bc841f2972bd91d9596ee7bbd628564&

[harsh egret]

isnt that just how it is on 150%

[frail bloom]

Can y'all even believe it

Quakecon next week

We're so close

But I have to travel somewhere else the day after

So I have to finish the master levels in one day

Pray for me.

[maiden onyx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M16CZ38PuFQ

[frail bloom]

You just had this propped up huh😭

[solar cairn]

We need a petition to move August 7 to July 31

[frail bloom]

What, are you gonna die next week

[maiden onyx]

i escaped the memes long ago my friend, this is a remnant of a time long since past

[frail bloom]

I understand

[solar cairn]

I’m burning with impatience

[frail bloom]

Womp womp

[maiden onyx]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unusual_deaths_in_the_21st_century

he's gonna show up on this list

[harsh egret]

Now i need to prep a version of it where its Hugo or smth saying "quakecon" instead of christmas

Im srs, imma do it

[frail bloom]

Do it

And add his face

[harsh egret]

shieee i dont have vegas pro installed on this pc

[maiden onyx]

he's gotta be staring directly at the camera unblinking

[frail bloom]

When is TravGuy reviewing tda it's been almost 2 months

[inner wigeon]

Yeah, this happens on every speed

It’s an odd bug or sum, you can just parry on reaction if you memorize what enemies do this

[solid nacelle]

It's 130%. I don't think raising the game speed should allow attacks to be drastically harder to read like this

[frail bloom]

It's already quick on 100%

[harsh egret]

yh that specific attack is pretty fast by default

[frail bloom]

It's only hard cuz you're not used to it

Compared to the other ai attacks it's one of the quickest

[spark elm]

Lomarith Beast and Harbor gonna try to 100% all of em today. On reckoning for me it’s just challenges

[steady wraith]

Yo :3

[inner wigeon]

Hi

[solid nacelle]

There's supposed to be an obvious build up not just "heres a cacodemon oh oops your armor is gone now sorry"

[spark elm]

I’ve realized how rough regular UV settings are 💀

[frail bloom]

The build up was mixed with the falter. That was the buggy part

[solar cairn]

We are waiting for Hugo in a costume, thinking at QC

[frail bloom]

It was flailing around when it charged so it played a falter animation for it's chsrge up

Rule of thumb, if the spaghetti monster flashes press block

[spark elm]

I would wish to be able to change to Pand/UN on my nearly maxed out save

[solid nacelle]

Yeah looking at it now that makes more sense, hopefully they fix it soon though cause it can catch you off guard way too easily

[solar cairn]

I thought about the master levels today, it would be cool if there was a variation of the master levels when with each passage randomly appear demons in each place so that each passage is unique

Maybe using some algorithm to accidentally fill the arenas

[frail bloom]

So a randomizer

Idk cool idea to ask abt

[solar cairn]

It is even possible to generate arenas using a randomiser, but it already looks too complicated and meaningless without vertical gameplay

[frail bloom]

Oh that?

Idk abt arenas...

Maybe if it was horde mode and you teleported from like 40 arenas idk

Sounds like too much honestly

[solar cairn]

There was some kind of custom map editor in D16, right?

[frail bloom]

Well ye

But that doesn't shuffle arenas

[muted zinc]

hhh

[indigo belfry]

How do I report a glitch

Cuz I just got soft locked in From Beyond

Had to reset the whole level

[orchid rover]

I highly recommend playing the game at 75% damage

The combat is so much more fun with the intensity of trading blows in longer fights

I think the elite health is a little too big at 50% but in the later game with more ammo it's not as bad

[solid nacelle]

Yeah but the shield bash aoe isn't strong enough to crowds of fodder like with 100%

[orchid rover]

That's what we have pulvierizer and shield toss for

On the long list of fan requested changes, can we PLEASE do something about the console button being permanently on tilda. It is WAY too easy to accidentally hit this in the middle of a fight

[split gate]

Exactly. I just don’t see how it is generic, I’ve never heard anything like TDA’s ost before

But tbh, haters will hate no matter what, I just ignore them

[oblique pilot]

I agree okthisisepic

[lunar spire]

I actually fully agree

[lunar spire]

For most of the criticisms I can tell they haven't listened to a single full album of heavier metal than three days grace

"it sounds so generic"

Uh huh... Right... Because thall mixed with thrash is so common..

[orchid rover]

I believe what people mean, is that the music isn't melodically engaging to them. Many of the Hell levels have heavy rising violins that don't go anywhere. I would stand to argue that the previous two games also only had a few standout tracks wheras this game has one that truly stands out, Unchained Predator. 2016 had BFG Division, while Eternal had TOTTFIY, Super Gore Nest, Meathook, and Blood Swamps. Eternal really improved on 2016 and had a serious sense of identity. I fully believe that experienced metalheads could pick apart Dark Ages' OST and find real artistic value in what they were doing, but a lot of it really does feel like just noise to the casual player

[lunar spire]

And on this end I rarely play on 100% damage because I can instakill MOST things

[orchid rover]

This criticism also applies to the art for me. There is always so much going on that the game can feel overwhelming in the presentation

Doom has become pretty overdesigned when it comes to the hell torment stuff to me. I kinda just glaze over it and barely notice it sometimes. But I know it's hard to have art to stick your eyes on when you're playing a game that's supposed to be always in motion

[frail bloom]

Super gore nest?

You mean rip and tear?

But retooled?

[lunar spire]

Yeah for those inexperienced in metal, I can say that is definitely the case a lot of the time. But for a metalhead there's some siiiiiick riffs and rhythms in the tracks

[orchid rover]

SGN has 7.4 million views dude.

[frail bloom]

What abt any other tda track

Unchained predator??

Into the Void?

Infernal chasm??

Main menu??

Those have melodies

Btw I still agree that Eternal's is better

[oblique pilot]

What about at dooms gate

[orchid rover]

I didn't say they don't have melodies. Re-read what I said. I said they aren't engaging to most people.

[frail bloom]

Why.

Cuz it ain't synth?

Why

[orchid rover]

This is ridiculously circular.

[frail bloom]

Don't blame me

No one explains anything

[lunar spire]

This is what I agree with. As a metalhead, you get into a sort of groove with syncopations and cool techniques that someone without an ear for it would miss

[frail bloom]

I don't even listen to metal

[oblique pilot]

Same

[frail bloom]

I'm a casual

[orchid rover]

YEAH INFERNAL CHASM. NOT GOOD.

[oblique pilot]

Doom music just has a badass kick to it

[orchid rover]

That is the stupid violin I kept hearing

[lunar spire]

I'm listening through it for inspiration for lyrics on unchained predator so I'll send thoughts on it in between sets

[orchid rover]

There are at least 3 or 4 levels where it plays

[frail bloom]

So you're telling me the beginning of Infernal chasm is bad.

[orchid rover]

I'm exploring the level and just go "I've heard this note like 17 times now, can I please hear something new"

[frail bloom]

It's one of the greatest things I've heard from doom

The solemn nature of it

The swelling and tragic sound it gives off

Are we talking abt the same thing?

[orchid rover]

On its' own sure, but the game's story tone is so off

[frail bloom]

No it's not

It's a medieval gritty world and you've been transported to Hell

And you see suffering alll around you

Especially during Reckoning

Where it's much more powerful, signifying the end of your journey

[orchid rover]

I do not agree at all. The violence of any kind in these games has zero punch now

[frail bloom]

Violence??

[orchid rover]

"Oh, hell torture"

[frail bloom]

So doom should only have heavy tracks and no variety in what feelings it gives you besides rage

[oblique pilot]

Fr

[frail bloom]

So infernal chasm is a weak track bc it has a solemn beginning?

What abt the rest of it??

[unkempt dragon]

weird take

[frail bloom]

I thought casuals thought it was only rageful and that's it

[vital hearth]

glory kills are a thing though(not really in tda)

[frail bloom]

Now apparently nuh uh we shouldn't have any emotional variety

Screw all of that

[orchid rover]

"You see suffering all around you" THE ENTIRE MODERN DOOM FRANCHISE IS WATCHING SUFFERING. This does not get to have an emotional impact all of a sudden.

[unkempt dragon]

LOL

[lunar spire]

The dark ages is supposed to be more emotional wtf?

[vital hearth]

tbh it doesn't feel all that emotional but i haven't finished the game yet so

[lunar spire]

It has a ton of nuance to the story, and shows the complexity behind a lot of his rage

[orchid rover]

This is copium of a cosmic degree

[lunar spire]

And it's ok that you feel that way

[orchid rover]

It's supposed to be but is not

[vital hearth]

i been past like siege pt 2

[frail bloom]

The game has a different tone. Each game's music characterizes the tone of the game and this is no different. It's not boo hoo sad it's supposed to give of a mystique to it. Nothing tells me it doesn't fit, it doesn't sound bad and gives the Hell level identity.

[vital hearth]

i would've been more inclined to finish if i didn't have to deal with audio distortion though. if only.. 😭

[frail bloom]

What abt Welcome home Great slayer?

Or Sign of Evil?

[oblique pilot]

Badass

[frail bloom]

I guess those don't fit.

Aw well.

[orchid rover]

There's a reason the Dark Ages' story has been widely criticized. This is a poorly done attempt at a "deeper emotional story". We get hardly any characterization of the Slayer again, he has 1 word spoken and 1 emotional reaction of any kind. We are constantly skipping to the next story event with little to no time to let the drama of what's happening sink in. It's a space-spanning sci-fi epic with no characters to attach to since everybody is the same degree of straight-man

[lunar spire]

So not to be rude but, you're giving input without finishing the game?

[vital hearth]

im going to finish the game i just haven't yet

[lunar spire]

Understood

[vital hearth]

besides i think almost 10 hours in the game should be enough

[lunar spire]

If you think so

[orchid rover]

The only time I was like "Woah, interesting!" was when Valen's son popped up and Novik referenced him. And that is literally the last cutscene of the game

[green estuary]

bro you are on chapter 7 out of 22

you are literally not even a third of the way through the game

[orchid rover]

You are playing on 50% speed if it took you 10 hours to play those levels

[vital hearth]

similar arguments could be made about mmos

[green estuary]

I have no idea what mmos are

[orchid rover]

No, an MMO is a game with no end goal. This is a single player campaign that's been methodically designed to have a finish. Horrible comparison.

[green estuary]

and also how the heck did it take you 10 hours to finish 7 chapters

[vital hearth]

there is an end to the main story in an mmo though

[lunar spire]

I'm going back to lyric writing

[orchid rover]

No, that's just that one particular thing, they have nigh infinite expansions and character growth. Just stop

[oblique pilot]

I’d play longer than that because I like the doom genre but that’s up to you how long you want to play

[lunar spire]

This is cring

[frail bloom]

I wasn't talking abt the story I'm talking abt the music. Even if we're talking abt the story it charafterizes the slayer much better than any entry. He's rageful, he wants to break free, he wants to protect people he fought with, he's gentle when it matters, he's respectful to his comrades, he cares abt his dragon duh, he has a calm demeanor looking back on the hill after throwing ahzraks head. What did Eternal have??? The smirk??? 2016 was also better than Eternal's with the intro, backing up vega, inspecting the argent filters before breaking them

[vital hearth]

you want me to bring up jrpgs then? that can take over 100 hours

not everyone has time to invest that much

[green estuary]

irrespective of how good/bad tda/2016's story is
eternal had an absolutely horrendous story

[orchid rover]

Eternal didn't need to characterize the Slayer, since he was again a silent vehicle for experiencing the journey

[oblique pilot]

Just a bunch of doom nerds

[frail bloom]

Not really he talked a bunch with cringe voice acting and it had 3d cutscenes as well

[orchid rover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfxTq3gkljI&t=2224s
This is the best Dark Ages review

[frail bloom]

He was his own character acting on his own at that point

[vital hearth]

also you'd understand why im complaining about audio distortion when its literally all i hear after an hour later after booting up the game

[solar cairn]

I’m at 150 speed and 300 damage on the hero for 15 hours passed the first 8 chapters

[frail bloom]

3rd person cutscenes*

[green estuary]

honestly that's a hardware problem man

[lunar spire]

I am too, it just feels out of touch with some of the musical critiques. I'm not a metal elitist but man some takes are stinky

[oblique pilot]

lol

[oblique pilot]

Agreed

[frail bloom]

Again I think Thira, Novik, Marok were not that interesting

[green estuary]

the game doesn't just give you distorted audio for no reason

[frail bloom]

I agree, alr

[lunar spire]

Also why are you complaining about the music when you aren't hearing it right

This is so sad

[frail bloom]

But the Slayer was characterized really well

[orchid rover]

Get blud outta here

[oblique pilot]

He was

[vital hearth]

i never claimed it was bad just doesn't feel all that emotional to me so far

[orchid rover]

The Dark Ages is keeping some of the perceived minimalist storytelling from the previous games and adding a ton of meat to places where it didn't need it and thus creating a bigger empty hole. We're supposed to be sympathetic for the sentinels being attacked by the demons but the levels are still just giant playgrounds for the slayer and the few we even get NAMES OF either do nothing for the story and or are totally absent in the game

[calm tangle]

All due respect what is that you gore people need to see? It feels like every new game that comes out, if we're not tearing the beating hearts out of a defenseless pregnant woman, I hear that the gore is "toned down" or "doesn't have impact." Is it the lack of glory kills? The sound design? Just want to hear your thoughts, no judgement I'd like to encourage you sharing your opinions (also sorry if this is off topic now cuz people are talking about the music lol)

[green estuary]

2016 had minimalist storytelling.
eternal's storytelling was the exact opposite of minimalism

[oblique pilot]

“Defenseless pregnant woman” lol

[vital hearth]

it was probably a windows update or sum

[calm tangle]

Hyperbolic of course

[oblique pilot]

[vital hearth]

the only hardware part that could realistically be stopping me is a cpu bottleneck

[orchid rover]

I don't need to see gore, ridiculous interpretation of what I said. I said that any violence in Doom can't have an emotional impact for just being background violence. The hell levels are always filled with suffering nameless faceless human corpses, but it's just level decoration and visual noise to me. Samir was insinuating that the last level of the game should have an emotional impact as the finale because "You see suffering all around you"

The story is incredibly hollow

[frail bloom]

Ye that's Valid, although Novik tricks Ahzrak in Hopy citymallows the reserve ships to leave so Ahzraks forces don't merk them and Valen brings the Slayer back from Hell. Thira was more a passive character and Marok was pretty bland.

[vital hearth]

doom is no horror game(except doom 3) so fair

[orchid rover]

No, the DARK AGES is the opposite of minimalism. Eternal just had more cutscenes.

Hugo literally says "We've taken the story out of the codex and INTO the cutscenes"

[lunar spire]

Really confused on what you mean here. I thought it was fairly complex if you're paying attention to it and not giving it zero attention because you made your mind up before playing it

[green estuary]

so you're telling me the fact that a human conciousness implanted into a cybernetic body and his AI assistant somehow turning out to be god and one of his angels is minimalism