the-dark-ages

[lunar minnow]

What-?

Do you get kicked from this server if you don't pop in?

Do we have to be active? 😭

[fleet spruce]

Not really, i have been lurking for long time

[dreamy kiln]

No, I'm just mostly busy with school is all

[lunar minnow]

Just hang around then. 💀

[dreamy kiln]

Let's hope so

[lunar minnow]

I probably won't be active, but I'll still hang out.

Unless the server is distracting.

That I can definitely understand.

[dreamy kiln]

Not really distracting, but mostly some of the brainrot kids in here, and I don't wanna have to leave cuz of it

[lunar minnow]

Huh? What do you mean?

[dreamy kiln]

There's some brainrot kids in here that get sometimes annoying

[lunar minnow]

You choose who you interact with.

Don't interact with the annoying ones.

Simple as that.

[dreamy kiln]

Yeah, but still, I might have to leave

[lunar minnow]

I mean, it's up to you I guess whether you leave or not.

I'm just saying if that's the reason, it's very much in your power to deal with it.

[dreamy kiln]

Not just the only reason, but yeah that's one of them. The only thing I really loved was the artwork, merch, giving advice and meeting some of the people here

[lunar minnow]

That's fair.
But I think all those things you just mentioned are more then enough reason to stay.

[dreamy kiln]

Like I said, I might be busy with school once I go back so idk

[lunar minnow]

Alright, well, it's up to you at the end of the day.

[dark thunder]

who would u consider the biggest opp or arch nemesis of the slayer

or does he not even have any cause they're all dead 💀

[dreamy kiln]

Stairs

[dark thunder]

too real

[onyx gull]

actually tho!

[slate heart]

I was suspicious if i would like it more than eternal. I definitely do.

[slate heart]

Its kinda weird though because its an amazing game but it feels like it goes a bit too far into quake territory for a doom game

[hard thistle]

Is slowmo update confirmed releasing before mega update at quakecon?

[frail bloom]

They haven't implemented fast travel bc it's not possible

Smt abt how the level loads in real time

Try that Digital Foundry interview with Billy Khan

[green estuary]

yeh I was watching devo's stream the other day and he had the same problem

weird bug but hopefully will be fixed soon

[silent surge]

yea that’s how you gotta do it to be sure

[solar cairn]

I don’t think so

Most likely, Hugo will reveal something else on 2 streams and then the patch

[harsh egret]

Yh most likely gonna bundle everything into that update

Hugo said a while ago that some stuff "will" come before

Me when i lie

[mystic patrol]

Will there be a mega update? Sorry I have been a bit out of touch with doom for a while

I finished TDA on nightmare and then I took a break waiting for new content (master levels etc)

[harsh egret]

yeah from what we know they will announce some pretty big stuff at quakecon on the 7th august

[mystic patrol]

Thanks!

[solar cairn]

Really?

Maybe parry sliders speed?

[harsh egret]

Wdym

[solar cairn]

What happened on the last stream, the speed of the shells

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/what-huh-wat-wut-gif-16165693567743102551

[solar cairn]

Well, or maybe they’ll give cosmetics

In fact, it would be cooler to get everything on August 7, of course

[split gate]

August 7, we will be feasting lads

It will be cinema

I will finally play the game again after not playing it for about a month, and I will get slaughtered once more

[sly gull]

I'm never playing pandemonium again

I'm just gonna keep grinding all the secrets on nightmare and then wait for more content 🫠

[maiden onyx]

What do people like about the cosmic baron?

[wooden leaf]

The mech sections are still amazing

[wooden leaf]

It’s quite scary imo

[solar cairn]

We are waiting for paired shields instead of weapons

[split gate]

Wdym by paired shields?

[solar cairn]

It’s rofl, but imagine fighting without weapons only with shields in a separate mode

[split gate]

Oh I thought this was serious 💀

[split gate]

Hugo approved

[merry sapphire]

just for pandemonium in my experience

[merry sapphire]

captain america infinity war style

[wheat granite]

Cursed knowledge. Well, at least it won't plague me on other difficulties once I get the skin

[merry sapphire]

yeah thank god this bug doesnt happen on ultra nightmare

[long ferry]

doom the duck ages?

[maiden onyx]

Are you team shield bash or team throw shield?

[mystic eagle]

When is dark ages DLC gonna come out

[real gyro]

Bash

[long ferry]

Smash

[graceful lion]

probably 2026

[mystic eagle]

I'll just reply the game 5 times on each difficulty till then

Replay

[craggy basalt]

is it wrong to use modifiers on a modifierless UN run on Ahzrak's first fight by adjusting the parry window to be a bit bigger

and then turning it back to normal parry window on the next level

[barren shell]

I dont adjust ahzrak both fights ez

[mental grotto]

Idk man it’s your playthrough do what you want

[delicate grotto]

Play how you want
But if the run is supposed to be no modifiers then using it to make something easier kind of takes away from the point of it.

[craggy basalt]

i mean it pretty much was, I only put the parry window slider up by one on his last phase because my heart was racing

i probably could've done it without the adjustment but seeing as I dont know his last phase attack patterns the greatest it was a bit crazy

but i guess it was more of a "try to beat the main meat of the game without modifiers" situation

[delicate grotto]

Yeah I mean there’s no right or wrong way of playing the game the way you want to, if you’re having fun and enjoying yourself that’s all that matters.
I used modifiers to blow through that same level on UN after it crashed on me during Azhrak’s last phase lmao. I still count my run as legitimate. Turned off modifiers after I got back to the part I hadn’t cleared yet.

[craggy basalt]

yeah

[delicate grotto]

Yeah I get not wanting to lose your run to a missed parry after clearing 90% of the game

[craggy basalt]

yeah lmao, i probably should've fought him a few times before starting the run but i like to think it was more of a challenge

[barren shell]

Tbh tda’s story was a little disappointing. In the trailers, Ahzrak looked actually intimidating but we don’t see his character development much. Also, we don’t see the other characters like Novik do much. The story also looked much more sick in the trailers. It was a good game, but could’ve had a better story

[craggy basalt]

hopefully the dlc will fix that issue

[barren shell]

Hopefully

[craggy basalt]

i pray we get to use the sentinel hammer again as a new melee

[barren shell]

I honestly wished we fought the champion titan

[maiden onyx]

Tbh I was really expecting some ahzrak cutscenes during the cosmic realm. Lots of levels with just some witch voicelines

[craggy basalt]

fuckin loved the sentinel hammer i even got a irl one lmao

[barren shell]

Ngl i had goosebumps seeing ahzrak in trailers but he wasnt how i planned

[delicate grotto]

Characters were pretty bland, that’s fair. I found it serviceable enough. I wasn’t expecting to be wow’d. There were a couple of really cool moments though. Zombie Slayer was sick

[barren shell]

True, harbor of souls was my favorite mission

[delicate grotto]

I love the parallel it had with 2016’s opening too

[barren shell]

Lol same

[maiden onyx]

yesssss symbolism was great in this game

[barren shell]

That’s what made me love the mission instantly

Also that cutscene when we board the ship

[delicate grotto]

Yeah it’s in my top 3 for sure

[craggy basalt]

speaking of 2016 i love how some bosses felt like it was ripped right out of it

with the whole "just shoot it until it dies" scenario

[maiden onyx]

Vagary reminded me of the mastermind tbh

[craggy basalt]

me too

one thing i hated about tda

were the arachnotron and cyberdemon

[maiden onyx]

In terms of combat?

[craggy basalt]

when you were too far away it was CONSTANT fire

[delicate grotto]

Yeah the Bosses in this game were great. Definitely the best lineup out of the entire franchise.

[maiden onyx]

I can see it, there's one section in ancestral forge that almost made me crash out coz the arachnatron spams you from a distance

[barren shell]

My top 3:
Harbor of Souls: i dig the dark, swampy missions, which made me love blood swamps in eternal
The mission where we free the Old One: Loved the music
The mission where we fight bishop kreed: Boss was good

[barren shell]

Yep

[craggy basalt]

felt like they did a bit too much damage with their rapid fire, especially because there isn't a cooldown so the game MAKES you prioritize them regardless if theres a single hellknight or 4 revenants

[barren shell]

They felt not too easy (like davoth) but not overwhelming difficult (like samur in my opinion)

[craggy basalt]

finally someone who agrees samur makyr was insanely difficult

[barren shell]

The eyeballs.

[delicate grotto]

Yeah good choices!
Same here for the most part but I prefer Reckoning (final mission) over the one where we fight Kreed. The Hell aesthetic there is unmatched imo. Feels straight out of classic Doom.

[craggy basalt]

loved the idea of that fight but give me a break here lmao

[craggy basalt]

me personally the 1st cosmic realm level was really fun

[barren shell]

I wish we actually had a greater motive to go to hell in the other hell missions. Felt like they just threw it in

[barren shell]

I loved the 2nd one’s puzzles

[craggy basalt]

same they really outdid themselves on those

[barren shell]

It was so unique and we didnt have our map

[maiden onyx]

It was!!!! I also loved the lovecraftian non-sensicalness of some parts of the cosmic realm maps. E.g. one of the secret corridors that loops endlessly unless you turn back around

[craggy basalt]

like the crucible was neat and all but the sentinel hammer was delicous

[lunar spire]

Made one of my favorite videos for sleep, the 10 hour slayer running

[craggy basalt]

i remember I was genuinely so confused in there

took me a solid 2 minutes until i turned around

[delicate grotto]

Yeah, Foresaken Plains and Hellbreaker were kind of pointless in their inclusion but I get why they’re there. Don’t wanna wait until the last act of the game to finally go to Hell in a Doom game.

[maiden onyx]

One of my favourite lovecraftian settings is apocrypha from Skyrim, this game did that and turned it up to 11. Loved it

[delicate grotto]

Yeah I agree. I love the Cosmic Realm. I hope we see more of it in the DLC

[uneven mortar]

Any news from Hugo?

[craggy basalt]

one thing I dont really get is why people didn't like the music a whole lot. i get it was mixed weird at first but they fixed it and now I enjoy it

[delicate grotto]

Quakecon has a ton of things planned for TDA

Lot of stuff they’re saving to announce

[lunar spire]

Really hoping we get the quake tie in lore from cosmic realm, istg it's connected there

[craggy basalt]

i just turn the main stuff down in audio and leave the music on at max

[maiden onyx]

A lot of people don't like change. It's just how we are as a society in this age.

[shy comet]

Did anyone mention this misplacement?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720132094889558096/1396902017078919302/20250722000818_1.jpg

[craggy basalt]

true tbh

[delicate grotto]

Different = Bad to a lot of people. Plus the style of music Mick produced was more palatable to people who weren’t huge metal fans to begin with.

[lunar spire]

This ↑

[craggy basalt]

yeah that sounds about right

[maiden onyx]

I don't like actual metal all that much, can confirm this as true

[craggy basalt]

hopefully we get to see a lot more skins too

i want a classic doomguy skin

[lunar spire]

I'm a huge metalhead and I listen to TDA tracks at the gym. They're amazing. I also get annoyed with the "there's no catchy melody"

[maiden onyx]

Wait omg autumn how did your test go?!?

[craggy basalt]

and also the weapons in the middle of the screen

[lunar spire]

I'll know on the 25th!

But I'm very anxious about it. I needed 111/190 correct and I think I got it

But still nauseating

[graceful lion]

i mean, people generally didnt like the atlan sections i feel

[maiden onyx]

I see...

You're a doom player, this game requires some brains. I'm sure you're gonna do great 😎

[lunar spire]

Thanks boss 🖤

[graceful lion]

tda definitely had the best story, or atleast the most pronounced one compared to eternal or 2016

things actually tied in real well

[graceful lion]

190 questions?, holy shit

[lunar spire]

Oh yeah!! On the music topic!! Ik you said you aren't a big metal fan but I've been listening to a lot of thall after playing TDA. I wanna know if people think FM should have gone even deeper into the spooky and horrifically heavy aspects of the music, and I have a song to show what I mean

[graceful lion]

i mean, heavier music wouldve been cool, but send the song so i can understand better

[lunar spire]

https://youtu.be/xz7RJd4v8Mo?si=GdBu9cIOxiB1LaFy

[graceful lion]

put that in tda and it would fit 😭

[lunar spire]

If they shoved this into TDA against azhrak?? Or something similar?

[graceful lion]

ooh yeah i could see that

[lunar spire]

Thoughts?

[graceful lion]

especially if ahzrak had some sort of demon summoning ability in some way, maybe a war call

[maiden onyx]

Actually ahzrak would have been perfect

[graceful lion]

mm yeah

maybe a couple tweaks for the soundtrack, but wouldve been great either way

[lunar spire]

That's what I was thinking too. It needs that haunting and horror themed instrumental blended with the metal. FM said they took inspiration from humanity's last breath tho so I'm wondering if it was Hugo that had them tone it down

[maiden onyx]

I love music for inspiring my story telling

This song to me feels more like a struggle against an enemy you have no idea why you can't beat, which really works for the in-game situation

[lunar spire]

↑ exactly this

[graceful lion]

he should not have frfr

[graceful lion]

oooooh yeah itd definitely be accurate

especially since theres actual visual cues that he's beating your ass

[lunar spire]

The part that really sells me is the 4:00 mark

[graceful lion]

i can see that

[maiden onyx]

That moment when it changes from "I can't kill this guy" to, "this guy might actually kill me"

[lunar spire]

YEAH

[graceful lion]

yep

[lunar spire]

I hope they get to really dive into the thall aspects more in dlc

ESPECIALLY if it's in cosmic realm at all

[maiden onyx]

I'm looking forward to more storytelling in the music.

Loved stuff like harbinger and the descent deeper into madness feel of tottfiy.

But finishing move actually has a lot of tracks my imagination just goes so wild with!!!

[lunar spire]

Well ofc my fave is unchained predator lmao

[maiden onyx]

hellspawn rift has this frenzied bit of track towards the end that I absolutely can't stop loving

[maiden onyx]

Oh I'm about to go on a tirade here.

The thing I love about that track is that it's one of those tracks that I can imagine the slayer firing a weapon to (in this case a heavy rifle of sorts)

Similar to damnation having notes of the Gauss cannon / chaingun firing in 2016

[lunar spire]

My first experience with the track was picking up the shredder. It was firing in sync with the track.

[maiden onyx]

THIS 🔥🔥🔥

[lunar spire]

I was sold on the game from THAT moment

ITS TOO PEAK

[maiden onyx]

RAAAAAHHHH

[lunar spire]

Also I have something to bring up that I'd stumbled upon. I was playing nightmare on 150% speed and played the atlan parts.

That's how it was meant to feel. Fast reaction times, still feeling like you're crushing bones and brutalizing your enemies. It felt like I was in titanfall 2 all over again

I think why people don't like it isn't because of the "lack of mechanics"

It's because it doesn't feel like you're in any danger

It's basically a free level on UN lol

[maiden onyx]

I have yet to use the modifier bars. I finished the game on nightmare finally yesterday haha.

Looking forward to seeing how utterly boggling I can make the gameplay

[lunar spire]

I played on max sliders a bit and it's so fun lmao

Very chaotic and challenges your game knowledge

[barren shell]

Out of the atlan we fight him

[graceful lion]

how?

[barren shell]

Slayer testaments

[graceful lion]

they only say he fought the champion and won bro

they never said with what, so it could be anything

they just say he had a fight with the champion and the titan fell

[barren shell]

Well it’s generally accepted that he fought the titan barehanded

[graceful lion]

generally accepted by non official sources you mean?

[barren shell]

Well yea

[graceful lion]

im sorry but the slayer cant fight titans bare handed, it contradicts tda and eternal lol

[barren shell]

Well the atlan would also be smaller considering the titan was way bigger than the other ones so it would still be harder

[graceful lion]

indeed, it would

but i dont think getting out a goddamn super mech would make you any stronger

[rotund rune]

It's weird how we don't have a Atlan codex in this game

[delicate grotto]

Yeah the dodging mechanic is way too forgiving and I think some Titan attacks could’ve been sped up on base game speed.

[lunar spire]

Yeah exactly. It needed the difficulty curve to go way up

[delicate grotto]

Honestly 120% game speed feels normal to me. Feels like what the game should’ve set its default speed as. I know I’m bias in that statement, but it really isn’t that much faster and yet it makes such a difference in my eyes.

[lunar spire]

I like 120% but 150 is so chaotic and I love it

It also feels like it should be his actual "jogging" speed considering how strong and fast he is

[winged surge]

I’m building a pc and will an old am4 board and cpu run TDA with a 5060 ti

[steady elbow]

Assuming you've got a half-decent CPU, yeah it should run it. AM4 isn't that outdated yet honestly. Go back to AM3+ though and you'll feel some struggles with basic things.

[subtle wyvern]

if you have a zen 3 or good zen 2 you will be fine

[winged surge]

Dope I should be fine then thanks

[next thistle]

Anyone see the Slayer videos tracked to the choir versions of Like A Prayer? The end scene with Azhrak hits hard

[unkempt dragon]

Haven't, sounds cool though

[undone nacelle]

Hey guys

[dreamy kiln]

Yo

[undone nacelle]

How u doin

[dreamy kiln]

Pretty good

[undone nacelle]

K

[winged surge]

This game is so damn good

On my third playthrough of nightmare lmao

Can’t wait to play it on pc and stream

I want to do a series on YouTube/twitch and it’s to beat every modern doom game without dying

Meaning if I die in TDA I have to restart in 2016

[craggy jungle]

ACTULLY fire but you have to play ultra nightmare

[split gate]

idk what it's called officially but the ending section of Hellspawn rift when the fight concludes in the first combat arena is easily top ten best parts of Doom music

[winged surge]

Duh 😂

[uncut needle]

youtubers: "nooo the skull gun is the worst one!"

"haha shredder go brrr"

[lunar spire]

something I really love about doom TDA is you can make anything work great

you just have to really know the combat loop and what each thing really excels at. I like using it for mass killing of the smaller heavies like hell knights and imps. its pretty good but just not as high DPS as some other options

[uncut needle]

i like to use the shredder as a "ok imma just hold left click while i do shield stuff"

[warm ibex]

I wish the enemy density was higher

[lunar spire]

yeah same

[warm ibex]

pulverizer would be a lot more fun if crowds were thicker

[lunar spire]

fr

[uncut needle]

i luv TDA i gotta get better at it. i rlly hope it can match the fun i had mastering eternal

[lunar spire]

i also want more fodder types

[warm ibex]

that would be nice too

[uncut needle]

DLC soon-ish, probably right?

[lunar spire]

no clue

others have a better idea than i would

[unkempt dragon]

Trust when we know, you'll know

[warm ibex]

depends on what you mean by "soon-ish"

I'd say no earlier than december/january, which is relatively soon

[warm leaf]

Why did you make the game min req so high this time round, its a first for me on this pc, i didnt check req before buying so now have a game sitting dormant until hell freezes over and i build a new rig lol

[simple mist]

doom eternal and tda did this well

pretty much any weapon could work

[lunar spire]

idk if doom eternal did it very well

[simple mist]

eternals worst weapon was still pretty decent tbh

[lunar spire]

personally I think TDA did a 180 on the doom eternal and 2016 formula

so you can main the plasma rifle the entire game and make a build around it and do just fine?

Not really going to be all that effective..

[simple mist]

each weapon was viable...but ya had to use a variety of em

eternals combat loop was like that

[lunar spire]

Oh yeah all weapons were viable in the one thing they were really good at

I'm not critiquing DE's gameplay, I'm just saying it really shouldn't be in the same conversation as TDA in terms of comparing weaponry in combat is all.

[simple mist]

i see yea

[lunar spire]

Like I can beat all of TDA with basically any weapon, in DE that's gonna be real tough especially if we are talking about the DLC

[warm leaf]

Gifted unfortunately 😉

[green estuary]

Unfortunately for pretty much every weapon in eternal there’s one mod that’s just the clear right choice in 95% of scenarios

[unreal terrace]

i died halfway through my ultra nightmare run

[green estuary]

Damn

But at least you didn’t die to asscrack

[unreal terrace]

when i get that far, im gonna practice for like an hour beforehand to make sure i don't lose all that progress

bro will NOT catch me lacking

[brittle flame]

Finally beat doom TDA on ultra-nightmare mode today!

[slate heart]

Dark ages needs a new game+

[solid nacelle]

A full master campaign would be sick

Maybe unrealistic though

[unreal terrace]

hell yeah 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[upbeat veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/congratulations-gif-15313310096117360512

[green estuary]

Who knows maybe it’ll happen
Eternal got 6 master levels even though Covid was a thing

[upbeat veldt]

if not maybe when we get mod support

in like 4 years

[solar cairn]

You can just replay the chapter

[winged surge]

Actually worried I’ll be streaming to nobody the entire time tho

[lunar spire]

I'll watch it if you ping me with it

[hard thistle]

@sterile hamlet Sorry for the ping but is there gonna be any sort of combat loop using the Gore Effigy to fling around for more verticality in the game play?

[marble seal]

It better

[winged surge]

100% I’ll let you know

[marble seal]

Doom The Dark Ages needs

Doomslayer's Room (won't be possible)
Horde Mode/Endless Mode
New Game+
More skins for Doomslayer
Maybe quick swap??? (Probably not)
All of that in base game before dlc

Please I know that I keep talking about this for days

Because I'm not getting dlc until next year

[winged surge]

lol

[brittle flame]

We do need more skins, but to do we wanna do what doom eternal did with the levels and events?

[hard thistle]

Doomslayers room could 100% be possible wdym

[brittle flame]

What could they add with new game+ if they add it?

[split gate]

I may be seeing things but I’ve heard people keep saying that DLC won’t come out until at least early next year or this December, but didn’t TAG 1 come out 5 months later, given that it was COVID? DLC would most likely come even as early as September

If we base off what happened with Eternal I mean

[brittle flame]

Yeah, I feel like the DLC would come around late September to early October

[marble seal]

Nah
Just get skins from levels and horde mode

Not events

[naive wigeon]

maybe a master level campaign

[brittle flame]

I didn’t think of that, but that would be a good idea

If we ever get an online mode for DOOM the dark ages, hopefully it’ll be a different online mode than DOOM eternal

[brittle flame]

Cuz DOOM eternal’s online mode was pretty trash

[harsh egret]

many ppl including myself assume that its gonna be one, bigger, dlc and this time they arent tied to a "year one pass" where they need to deliver the dlcs at an exact date or smth, so they might have learned their lesson from tag and they are actually taking their time with this game's dlc

if we dont hear anything about it in august, aka qc and gamescom, then its safe to say its out early next year

[solar cairn]

I don’t think the dlc will be released even in the fall, if there won’t be 2.5 missions there, of course

I would be guided by the end of the year, the beginning of 2026

Still, the team has something to do, the game is still empty

[unkempt dragon]

People have been speculating all day, as I said earlier-when they know the date, we will know. No point in continuing to guess.

[solar cairn]

I don’t think the room will be added, the game focuses on gloom, there are no cheat codes, music and other things, which made Eternal funny

[vagrant path]

is id software kill?

[unkempt dragon]

What?

[vagrant path]

I just heard about the xbox layoffs

and since id software is under bethesda, and bethesda is y'know

is ID software and doom boned?

[solar cairn]

Doom is one of the stable franchises, just like Forza Horizon, these teams should not have touched

[winged surge]

I’d be surprised if there’s another online mode

[delicate grotto]

DLC for this game is a lot larger than Eternal’s.

[winged surge]

The only reason I don’t have all the achievements for eternal is because of the damn online mode

[brittle flame]

Yeah I really don’t like it cuz of them too

[delicate grotto]

Considering TDA’s mission size is larger than even Eternal’s DLC missions, it only makes sense to assume the DLC missions will be on par or even larger than that. I doubt they can cook up a DLC with a scope that large in just a handful of months.

Even if they started development on it before TDA’s official launch.

[graceful lion]

they promised 2 dlcs in a year

in a year since launch, during covid

which was incredibly fuckin dumb imo, shouldve taken an extra half a year on both

tag 1 had 7 months, tag 2 had 5 months, look at the difference two months makes

[hasty stone]

I hated Eternals dlc, I don't have high hopes for dark ages dlc...both campaigns are masterpieces but the dlc just sucked

[solar cairn]

I hope they won’t make demons that are killed only by certain weapons

[harsh egret]

u really be writing some stupid stuff sometimes ngl

like surely u get an idea why the dlcs were how they were by reading what we been talking about or by coming to that conclusion urself

[unkempt dragon]

It bums me out that the tone in this channel today has just been shitting on the DLC's, or how people think they could do everything better themselves or sum.

[safe bridge]

if its just opinion... and in my opinion DLCs are amazing

don't care much if you haven't enjoyed the game

but huge majority did

[harsh egret]

ye they werent bad at all, they just needed more time to cook and they said it themselves

[grand monolith]

the story was ass but they did have fun arenas (imo since i dont wanna get jumped)

[harsh egret]

i just think surely by now that discourse is over, it was covid + they set time constrains on themselves before knowing how covid would affect them. its been 4 years now lmao.

and they did pretty damn well considering the time constrains, especially when it came to ost stuff

[grand monolith]

if covid didnt exist the dlc's wouldve been much better, theyre still good i replay them a lot. id employees never stop cooking

[unkempt dragon]

For real lol. And we almost need to pin a message saying "We don't know when TDA DLC is coming out, when we know YOU will know, ffs"

[unkempt dragon]

agreed

[delicate grotto]

That’s an interesting take. Heavily disagree with it. The lore is pretty piss poor but the level design and gameplay amplified Eternal’s design philosophy two fold. It just improved on its groundwork from platforming to meathook integration to arena design. At least that’s how I see it.

[grand monolith]

exactly

[graceful lion]

yeah just give me a decade for learning how to program, a decade for learning how to model and make enemies well, a decade to animate enemies, and another decade to learn the idtech 8 engine

just four decades, at which time the doom franchise would have probably died

[grand monolith]

the only problem with the dlc is the story (and the stone imp) imo. but still great

[harsh egret]

and because of this they didnt set any "one year" or whatever time limit to release 2 dlcs, they want to take their time. and this time its not covid AND the development time has been reduced by alot with id tech 8

[graceful lion]

yeah

so they have a ton of time to make epic shit

[harsh egret]

if the release is like 10 months after the base game release, then they get a lot of time to cook properly ngl

[delicate grotto]

No. The Cursed Prowler. Fuck that thing.

[grand monolith]

they never cursed me lmao (im too good)

lock on rocket always does the job

[harsh egret]

[delicate grotto]

Legitimately terrible I can’t defend it. Yeah they’re easy to kill but they suck regardless. Nothing about them is fun.

[solar cairn]

The very idea of making demons that are killed only in 1 way is very dubious

[grand monolith]

it would be good on paper, but its dogwater in execution

also we should move this shit to #doom-eternal before the mods kick our asses

the elmo pfp mod is the goat tho

[unkempt dragon]

ayy thx yo!

[grand monolith]

no problem bro, also can i ask a question in dms about the spicy demons serv

[hasty stone]

@delicate grotto the dlc flow compared the camping was just horde mode in a level, there was no flow like the campaign, nothing but big battles every two meters , the battles lasted way to long

[graceful lion]

i mean, it was definitely harder

and personally i like the longer levels because its also an endurance test

not just "blast 8 dudes in 10 seconds"

then ur only getting like 30 mins of combat

[delicate grotto]

It’s a campaign DLC. Everything ramps up in difficulty from the final base campaign level. Yeah the fights are long and hard, and many of the missions are an endurance race, but it’s intentional. If you found the content too hard to be enjoyable that’s fair, but I wouldn’t chalk it up to bad design, it just wasn’t for you

That’s why TAG 2 toned it down a bit to appeal to a more general audience which I think was a good choice, even if I preferred TAG 1’s brutality.

[hasty stone]

I neve said it was too hard, the balance for tag 1 was pretty shit and rushed

[wheat sigil]

i think it's odd to complain over a dlc being harder with more enemies
just me though

[grand monolith]

doesnt it warn you "But more enemies since dlc" or smth while choosing diffucultytyt

[delicate grotto]

The progression is a bit messed up between the DLCs but if we’re just talking TAG 1, I dunno, I felt like UAC Atlantica naturally progressed from Final Sin’s difficulty.

[hasty stone]

Hugo already said dark ages won't be as hard as Eternals dlc, I don't think they were happy with what they pushed out

[delicate grotto]

They weren’t happy with how alienated a lot of fans felt with TAG 1, that’s true.

[grand monolith]

uac atlantica was honestly easier than most campaign levels

[harsh egret]

u can make the base game pretty hard rn so im fine with them not making it as hard as tag 1 or smth

they still said it will be harder than the base game

[wheat sigil]

honestly though alotta people should've just lowered the difficulty

[grand monolith]

i dont even have the base game (im poor)

[harsh egret]

[wheat sigil]

what would've been good is a short optional tutorial going through some important mechanics

[delicate grotto]

I agree. If you can’t do it on UV when you normally play UV, put aside your pride and lower the difficulty.

[grand monolith]

tag 1 and 2 nightmare is not fun

i assure you

[delicate grotto]

I loved it on NM but Eternal was also my favorite game for years.

[harsh egret]

ye i feel like thats what they might do with the tda dlc, they'll start it kinda how khalim is rn, start with some melee stuff, then shield throw, to kinda warmup the muscle memory again

and so on ofc

[wheat sigil]

why?

[grand monolith]

i dont like dying every 9 seconds

[harsh egret]

tag 1 and 2 nightmare is fun imo actually

[delicate grotto]

Possessed Marauder on NM

Hoping we get some sadistic encounters like that shit in TDA’s DLC.

[grand monolith]

possesed marauder isnt even big of a deal

[harsh egret]

i hope so but i think that will be saved for master levels

[delicate grotto]

Holt Slayer Gate pre nerf was nuts.

[unkempt dragon]

@wheat sigil and I laughing in CBT Atlantica

And Unholy Urdak

[delicate grotto]

Sure, but first time around he was a bit of a surprise lol

[grand monolith]

only if i were good at the game 🥀 💔

i have 120 hours and i play like a newborn baby

[harsh egret]

thats why theres difficulty options and its ok not to play on the hardest 👍

[grand monolith]

i hate easy i like dying

[wheat sigil]

lmao yes

[delicate grotto]

I can’t imagine going back to Eternal rn. I’d probably play like absolute shit. I remember taking a break from the game for a mere two weeks and getting back into it was a bit of a curve.

[wheat sigil]

that level is absolutely vicious, i haven't even legitimately beaten all the encounters! and i haven't dared try the level again for a while now

[grand monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1293942427165524132/1397138530526036009/image.png?ex=6880a227&is=687f50a7&hm=8f029886a9461c30e542015532b556516d2f75e47127b83b5720321df7857f4d&

[unkempt dragon]

I did Balanced bc...reasons lol

emotional stability preservation

[grand monolith]

only if davoth wasnt a cheap knockoff of hell guards phase 1

[delicate grotto]

Azhrak feels like Davoth’s fight fully realized.

[wheat sigil]

holt slayer gate patch 4-4,1 wasn't that much worse than patch 5+

[delicate grotto]

I’m sure that’s what they wanted to do to begin with

[wheat sigil]

and patch 3-3,1 was rhe easiest iteration

[grand monolith]

i dont have tda but i do know that asscracks boss fight is like a good version of davoths boss fight

[harsh egret]

the boss fights in this game are quite a step up

imo at least

[wheat sigil]

we should vc whenever you have time and i'll play the level lol

[harsh egret]

compared to what they have done before

[delicate grotto]

Honestly I can’t remember the different versions that distinctly anymore. The most trouble that encounter gave me were the Carcasses iirc.

[orchid crystal]

Dude

I’m only up to chapter 9 and I understand none of the story

Can someone explain it

[grand monolith]

if they are a step-up maybe it is worth the price

[delicate grotto]

Yes. Enhanced Azhrak is EASILY the best Doom boss in the franchise and one of the best FPS boss fights I’ve ever played.

[weak urchin]

Hi everyone!

[orchid crystal]

Please

[grand monolith]

hello Nelliel Tu Oderschvank

[harsh egret]

yt vids exist

[unkempt dragon]

deal!

[weak urchin]

Hello Turkvincible

[delicate grotto]

Which parts are you confused on? The entire game’s setting or just the game’s isolated story?

[orchid crystal]

Games isolated story

[grand monolith]

does the game have a good story or is it doom eternal

[unkempt dragon]

@hard thistle whenever you're up

[harsh egret]

[orchid crystal]

If u have a yt vid pls show me

[orchid crystal]

Who tat

[weak urchin]

How much does DOOM the Dark Ages cost in your country?

[grand monolith]

the last time i heard of that guy was on my old acc that i deleted 2 yrs ago

[unkempt dragon]

He is the keeper of all the Doom knowledge and secrets of the earth

[wheat sigil]

twenty cents

[grand monolith]

50 bucks (damn you bethesda)

[harsh egret]

50 bucks, hah

how about 86

[weak urchin]

OMG I'M COMING RIGHT AWAY

[orchid crystal]

100 dollars

[orchid crystal]

Or more

[grand monolith]

the economy here is built like that fat maykr from the new game, that means it sucks

[weak urchin]

In France it's 80€

[grand monolith]

1 dollar is 40 tl

[dreamy kiln]

Prince Azhrak is trying to steal the heart of argent and the slayer is trying to stop and kill him

[grand monolith]

i dont wanna pay 2,000 tl to buy some game from my favorite game franchise, i fkn bought doom eternal for 1.82 dollars

[weak urchin]

Or $93,59

[grand monolith]

93 bucks is craz

[harsh egret]

tbf it doesnt really get much lower than that

[brisk ingot]

1,868 peso

[orchid crystal]

The heart is the 2nd piece of the thing tat gives u god like powers?

[grand monolith]

cant bethesda just lower it to 40 bucks for atleast 1 day for gods sake

[harsh egret]

also how is a game from ur fav game franchise not worth 50 bucks

i guess depends how ur financial situation is atm but ye

[grand monolith]

im turkish okay everything is expensive here

[dreamy kiln]

For Azhrak yes, because he needs to capture Thira and take the ancient wraith god out of her to enhance himself

[delicate grotto]

Sentinels vs Hell war
Prince Azhrak wants to become Hell’s Dark Lord
He’s after the Wraith’s power in Argent D’Nur. Wraiths are powerful, godlike beings who crash landed in Argent D’Nur and created all life there. We first see them in Doom 2016, powering the Well.
Doom Slayer is controlled by the Maykrs after being infused with the power of the Divinity Machine, which gave him his demigod-level abilities. He breaks free of their control and continues to fight Hell alongside the Sentinel warriors.

[weak urchin]

Personally, my "passion" is remixing music from

DOOM

[unkempt dragon]

people need to utilize this emoji more. It funni

[grand monolith]

i dont wanna pay 50 bucks to kick some demon called "asscrack"'s ass

[harsh egret]

we need more dark ages emotes

[dreamy kiln]

I used to when I was barely active

[weak urchin]

🤣🤣🤣

[orchid crystal]

@dreamy kiln @delicate grotto tysm

[dreamy kiln]

Np

[grand monolith]

alsoi dont care if mick gordon didnt do this games ost finishing move cooked imo

[weak urchin]

there is someone who comes from France

[brisk ingot]

say it aint so

[dreamy kiln]

I can't wait for the dlc's soundtrack

[weak urchin]

???

[grand monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1293942427165524132/1397142031398080544/image.png?ex=6880a569&is=687f53e9&hm=0cf2d6d224fe00ad3918e1df4532fd925029aef15fd28a13b68b36c77e41b123&

[weak urchin]

WHAT

[grand monolith]

can i borrow 50 bucks @unkempt dragon

[mystic patrol]

Is this turkiye price?

[grand monolith]

ill give it back in like 3 centuries

[unkempt dragon]

dafuq

[weak urchin]

Why is it so cheap???

[unkempt dragon]

Who do I look like, Jeff Bozo?

[harsh egret]

turkey always had cheaper games

[grand monolith]

yse

[harsh egret]

its why they shut down the thing where u can switch store country

i used to do it myself with a bunch of games

[weak urchin]

ha ok you are in Türkiye

[grand monolith]

you damn vpn users ruined steam for us

[harsh egret]

what

im not turkish

[grand monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1293942427165524132/1393124373866745908/Ekran_goruntusu_2025-07-10_110927.png?ex=6880882d&is=687f36ad&hm=fdf008def5bc107a7bbb2b9d9130f3bf0b85c5e9779313f321ec11dbecd9c90d&

[grand monolith]

i no longer get games for 1 buck instead of 60

[mystic patrol]

I’m sure im 0,1% turkish or smth. Chances are small and never zero

[grand monolith]

crazy message (not talking bout you @mystic patrol some dude "inspired" us to pirate games ig)

[vernal thistle]

Hi can anyone help me how to fix Bugsplat? dark ages

[grand monolith]

pablo stop reacting with the damn pregnant man emoji

[mystic patrol]

Ah yeah no problem even though it was about my message LULW

[grand monolith]

elmo doing anything but his job rn 🥀

can we send gifs

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-not-the-villian-of-this-story-doom-samuel-hayden-video-games-gif-25253305

doom tda on nintendo gameboy when

[unkempt dragon]

lets go to #general

[grand monolith]

yse

[split gate]

If only more people had that mindset…

[grand monolith]

people shit on them for not being mick gordon. its not like mick was ever gonna come back

[split gate]

If they want Mick back, they should ask him instead of being whining bitches. Even if they do, Mick will say no for the right reasons 😂

Mick delivered for us two game changing osts, it’s now FM’s turn

[mystic patrol]

Mick was abused by zenimax. People wanted that man to go back to his abuser

[split gate]

Yep, people simply jump on the bandwagon nowadays

The most loudest of opinions are often the stupidest, the controversy of the music is no exception

[unkempt dragon]

Drop the topic please. It's old and recycled at this point.

[grand monolith]

dam

[split gate]

Don’t worry chief, not planning on extending this one

[unkempt dragon]

ty

[grand monolith]

but yeah FM did a crazy good job, id say they cooked with some tracks.

[unkempt dragon]

agreed

[grand monolith]

but i did hear some people say the music is too backgroundy during the game, they say you cant hear it at all. is that true?

[harsh egret]

they improved that in a patch at some point after launch

some say some aspects of the tracks is still not quite there yet, but i like the way it is rn

i think it was the guitar not being loud enough or smth

[grand monolith]

does the game support rtx 3050, i need to know before i buy this game so i can actually play it

[harsh egret]

could be wrong

[harsh egret]

eh, cant promise it will run too well tbh

depends what ur target fps is

[grand monolith]

anything over 60

[harsh egret]

do u care about graphics

[grand monolith]

hell nah, i play doom eternal on lowest graphics and it still looks crazy good

[harsh egret]

then maybe u could get like 60 frames i guess, maybe less, maybe more

[grand monolith]

i have 70 hours on ninentdo switch doom 2016, i dont give a shit about graphics or frames that much

also i run doom eternal on 300 fps when v sync is turned off

[harsh egret]

ye i think u will run this one on like 50-60 fps

[grand monolith]

with low graphics?

[harsh egret]

ye

and dlss

[grand monolith]

damn

[naive wigeon]

4gb or 6gb

[grand monolith]

does it crash every minute like people say or was that just a launch thing

[harsh egret]

that was a launch thing

tho i cant promise no crashes on that gpu lol

[grand monolith]

like 4 or 6 gb ram?

[harsh egret]

Vram

[naive wigeon]

vram

there's two 3050s

[grand monolith]

i have 8 gb

[naive wigeon]

the 4gb version runs the game horribly

[harsh egret]

Ye forgot about that

[naive wigeon]

you should be fine

[harsh egret]

Ah ye wasnt it 6 gb and 8 gb

And 4gb was for laptops

[naive wigeon]

yeah

[harsh egret]

I could be wrong

[grand monolith]

i have an excalibur g770

with some minor upgrades

its a laptop but its still 8 gb ram

[harsh egret]

U sure u talking about vram here and not normal ram

[grand monolith]

wait lemme see

[harsh egret]

If its a laptop then ye ur probably cooked

[grand monolith]

fuck

its 4 gb

[harsh egret]

im on a laptop with a 3060 atm on vacation and the game is not playable much

[split gate]

Yeah the mixing is a little strange for me still, but it’s a lot better compared to what it was before

[harsh egret]

i have to go on like 960p with dlss performance to get 60 fps outside of combat

and i hate anything below 80-90

[grand monolith]

ur such a modern gamer

ill be fine

if the game runs horribly ill just refund it

[harsh egret]

it be like that

[naive wigeon]

if u dont mind playing with really low graphics

there's a config file on nexus mods that optimizes the game for 4gb

vram

[grand monolith]

oooh niec

looks like hte game was originally optimized for people who like spending extreme amounts of money on playing games

well ive lost 90% of my hope for this game

[harsh egret]

the game runs pretty alright considering the rt requirements

if it runs well on mid range 30 series cards then the game is pretty well optimized

[raven sonnet]

guys will i be able to run at max graphics on a gigabyte geforce rtx 4060 eagle oc 8g graphics card?

i will have 32 gb also

32 gb of ram

and i will have a ryzen 7 7700 processor.

8 core am5 5.3 ghz cpu

so will it run at max graphics smoothly?

i have 74.97 hz monitor btw

[solar cairn]

See benchmark

[fading mason]

Dlls performance Mode maybee

A have rtx 4070 12gb ryzen 7 5800x 32gb ram dlls quality and full graphisc run 1440p 144fps

[hard thistle]

When will there be an update on Doom TDA?

[harsh egret]

at quakecon, 7th august

[inland walrus]

Yeah but you'll definitely need DLSS to get a decent performance, on an RTX 4070 myself running on highest settings and DLSS set to Performance/Quality (depends on how I feel lol)

Frame gen could give you an extra edge but I'd only recommend using it if your monitor supports high refresh rates, otherwise it'll just feel choppy

[hard thistle]

Thanks

[silver flame]

game just got more badass with faster weapon switching

and someone making extra slider percents

[solar cairn]

If the speed of the shift is like eternal, it will also look ridiculous

[silver flame]

you can make it pretty fast

[solar cairn]

Going through half of the arsenal again in a second

[silver flame]

theres also this

https://www.nexusmods.com/doomthedarkages/mods/38
still has alil bit of animation bugs on like double barrel but still

[solar cairn]

Holy shit

[silver flame]

i like the double barrel animation to much so imma hold off on it

but its still great i tested it

[solar cairn]

Maybe the Swap speed will also be made adjustable

[silver flame]

if you want faster weapon speeds its just a drag and drop file in dark ages main folder spot

https://www.nexusmods.com/doomthedarkages/mods/27

i meant weapon switching speed

dudes been doing good

this is essential at this point i feel

[alpine pilot]

Where DOOM

[silver flame]

you just press f8 in menu after you installed it in folder and launched game

you can even adjust these settings in game

even has a op double jump XD

[dreamy kiln]

Everywhere

[solar cairn]

Hugo can bring half of the Nexus into the game

[silver flame]

he wishes he was that cool

[alpine pilot]

Who DOOM

[silver flame]

i mean im kinda still annoyed they just didnt provide the community mod tools day one at this point like

they realize the doom community loves modding these games so its like what is the real reason

if its a corp thing form some other side thats wack

[solar cairn]

Mod support is usually added much later when players have played with what the developer has done

[silver flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/208822523792457728/1397184938503180369/weapon_switch.mp4?ex=6880cd5f&is=687f7bdf&hm=56636ffe7f5a7f0a6c4ad2840744d330069319dc4022e20cb7719fe3591872aa&

@solar cairn you can make it faster then this

[split gate]

Because they have plans and visions for the game they want to put in.

[solar cairn]

Jesus Christ

[naive wigeon]

tbf they can still have those and mod support

[split gate]

They could but mod support will easily overshadow official content

I’d rather see what they want for the game they made and then do mod release tbh

You get ideas too

[naive wigeon]

i don’t think mods will overshadow official content unless the official content released is sub par

[silver flame]

^

[split gate]

It’s more of the near unlimited potential mods have. Mods can do so much more

Fanmade content is usually better than official

[silver flame]

sounds like the only thing they fear is

[naive wigeon]

it depends

usually fanmade content becomes better than official content a long time after people get used to the modding tools

look at eternal’s mods from before official mod support to early mod support release and compare them to mods made much later on

[split gate]

Just wanted to clarify, did early mod support help to give better quality for mods, or were mods in general without the support did better later on

Or was it both 👀

[naive wigeon]

it helped people make better quality mods because it made it easier to do things like make custom geometry and add new assets

[split gate]

Yeah that makes sense

[naive wigeon]

before official mod support in terms of custom maps people were only really able to move some objects around or change enemy spawns

now people basically have the same tools that the devs had when making eternal

[split gate]

Ah mods were limited back then

[naive wigeon]

yeah

[split gate]

I wish there was something for console players tho, like snapmap

[sly gull]

Honestly same

I tried using Id studio but it's software is super weird and hard to get used to

[split gate]

I wanna play everyone’s maps, they look so cool

[sly gull]

And there's so many fucking files and assets that you have to download that are poorly organized, and it's just difficult to navigate

[solar cairn]

Support for mods after the dlc will be introduced when the game support ends

Well, I think so

[silver flame]

you check out that switch speed video

like thats not even the highest it could go as well im pretty sure it can go to a absurd speed cap lol

[solar cairn]

Flashbacks from Eternal

[silver flame]

theres even a swim faster speed option now with kaibz thing lol

not that theres many swim segments but still funny can go fast in water now XD

[oak temple]

Options to skip intro? He knows there is a skip button already right? The rest of the stuff looks cool

[silver flame]

its the ultimate lazy option

[silent surge]

proteh’s streamlined campaign mod does that stuff

[outer sleet]

I just finished the game without dying once.

[maiden onyx]

https://youtu.be/mod19z0SpXM?si=CU4X4N0ZVPCapIL7

[outer sleet]

Oh and i also got all the toys

[atomic dune]

which difficulty

[grand monolith]

ultra nightmare or, ultra ultra violence, ultra hurt me plenty or ultra im too young to die

[atomic dune]

what

[silent surge]

since you can adjust the sliders on UN, you can make a perma death ultra violence, or hurt me plenty, etc

[vivid flicker]

Doom the light ages when?

[silver flame]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-spongebob-plankton-gif-10466614

[outer forum]

Guys I finished the campaign and now im tryin to get the plat trophy. I've heard that the beserker trophy is bugged and and that if i did not save gold for the trophy, i have to do another safe file. Is it still bugged

[lunar spire]

No it is no longer bugged

[outer forum]

if thats the case

then ill do it

[lunar spire]

[deep rune]

I Did complete Dark Ages but I Accidently deleted my Hurt me Plenty save file cause i ment to delete my Custom Campain the achievement where you have to adjust the settings before you play the game and i deleted my full game on hurt me plenty

[lunar spire]

I did the same thing with my 100% NM playthrough save

[deep rune]

That must of sucked

[lunar spire]

It did for both of us

[meager vortex]

doom the dark ages 208.4mb update

maybe bug fix

ah! come one! i need master level

[grim cloud]

i dont think we are getting any real content updates till QC

prob will not see much about the DLC either, maybe a sneak peak but they cooking that still, braising it in demon blood at low heat

[lunar spire]

People are too impatient. You can take a break and play other games while you wait. I love this sentiment right here

Reminding folks that it's coming, but to let them cook so it isn't half baked. I've had far too much half baked content in destiny 2, I do not want half baked doom

[frank turtle]

tru

[warm ibex]

It seems that Eternal spoiled people

[lunar spire]

In the worst way

[warm ibex]

Lots of folks expect a constant stream of content 24/7 and don't seem to be taking TDA's structure very well

Nothing against anyone of course, I understand that constantly having tons of new stuff is awesome

[lunar spire]

They also think eternal is THE doom and anything different is bad. Usually the same crowd

Omg it didn't come with master levels? Worst game

[warm ibex]

I've found that the crowd that expects a consistent stream of post-launch content is much larger and more widespread than the group that's overly obsessed with eternal

[lunar spire]

That's fair. I also don't pay a whole ton of attention to who fits into what group based on taste so I'm speaking more from experience.

Not explaining quite well as I'd like but it is what it is.

Too much else on the brain

[naive wigeon]

tbf eternal did set a pretty good standard for extra content

[lunar spire]

It was also made during COVID

[naive wigeon]

its fair to be frustrated that tda launched with less content than eternal did especially considering how expensive it is

[lunar spire]

From price point, sure

[naive wigeon]

covid made things harder tho

[lunar spire]

It's also significantly longer than eternal

[lunar spire]

Yes I'm giving you credence to your point

I do gotta go tho, I'd love to continue the convo but I cannot

[naive wigeon]

alr

[warm ibex]

Prior to launch they stated that things like multiplayer were cut so that those resources could be put towards developing the Atlan and Dragon. So there's not necessarily less content overall, there's just more content in the single player campaign and less outside of it

that's the way I see it, at least

[naive wigeon]

dang

[wide summit]

just beat tda !!!!!

they cooked so hard

[acoustic cosmos]

if that decision was made specifically just to make the dragon/mech sections, thats definitely not a trade-off worth doing imo. Eternal's BM was pretty barren, but it's still a WHOLE different mode vs filler content you're going to get bored of after one playthrough

but if it also means a more expansive dlc then i'm fine with it

[warm ibex]

I think labeling the Atlan and Dragon as "filler" is a very dishonest way of putting it

Would you see things any differently if the additional segments were removed from the campaign and instead presented as side modes?

[acoustic cosmos]

i mean it's just my opinion, they described it as fully fleshed out systems but i never really wanted to play those sections over the main game

[wide summit]

imo atlan and serrat content were just as fun as normal gameplay, the only thing that's lacking is the length of most slayer fights

[acoustic cosmos]

well not really tbh, the concept itself is just not that compelling. you're doing less stuff and it's very on-the-rails imo

[wide summit]

they mightve dumbed down the game too much to the point most fights were too short even though they looked massive

[acoustic cosmos]

filler doesnt necessarily mean bad btw, eternal's platforming was filler content. filler content can serve as good pacebreakers. i just dont think it was worth to also cut out mp modes

[warm ibex]

I suppose my problem is failing to see how Battlemode and the Mech/Atlan aren't equal

or a worthwhile trade, maybe that's a better way of putting it

[wide summit]

look at how popular 2016 and eternal's mp modes were and tell me we needed one for tda

[acoustic cosmos]

well for one battlemode still has you play as the slayer with his whole kit (sometimes) and the gameplay is much less cut down

[wide summit]

they werent

what the game really needs is master levels and more challenging stuff

[green estuary]

sounds like you're describing battlemode 😂

[acoustic cosmos]

i didnt play battlemode that much but i will play it over dragon/mech sections all day lol

[warm ibex]

Meh, multiplayer content that you never played and didn't like was swapped out for single player content that you won't play and don't like

same shit different game

[acoustic cosmos]

i mean i liked 2016s? They could've also just made a better mp mode and as i've said i would play those two over the mech sections all day

[vital rapids]

I like the mech sections. I'd be up for id fleshing them out in a DLC

[green estuary]

2016 death match and battlemode both kinda stink, but they're 100% optional
but the difference is that in TDA you're forced to play through the mech/dragon sections to get through the base game, which I'm sure gets annoying

[vital rapids]

Although no chance of Panzer DraDoom DLC because of... story reasons

[green estuary]

if the main campaign had no mech/dragon sections and it were just a secondary game mode, I 100% guarantee way more people would like it

[warm ibex]

I've started to like them a lot more as I replay the levels, creating combos to beat down titans for like ten minutes between levels is super fun. Starting to like the dragon much less though

[winged surge]

They’re really easy but hella fun

[grim cloud]

i aslo agree that killing MP for atlan and dragon wasn't worth it. I like MP, played both battlemode and 2016 team DM to death.

[acoustic cosmos]

well i suppose im just not a fan on filler content (again not necessarily a bad thing). never liked it in bayonetta or gow

[green estuary]

should have given us a multiplayer mech mode

lowk would have been sick

[acoustic cosmos]

i guess a better way to put it is "mini-games" tho i would also categorise that as filler

[grim cloud]

that would of been a entire dooms worth of dev time though. massive undertaking

[wide summit]

guys if commander thira has a literal god inside her why is she never mentioned ever again (lore wise)

[green estuary]

idk man
id be makin shit up as they go

[grim cloud]

i hope that the next game has coop horde mode and some type of team deathmatch of Sentinels versus Marauder, bascially the civil war era battles

[vital rapids]

my guess is it doesn't bode well for her

[wide summit]

possibly

they kinda left the door open for another game between tda and 2016 cuz they gotta show how the slayer ends up back at mars (i know its probably explained in codexes but most ppl dont read those)

[acoustic cosmos]

any arcade mode seems like a must for this game tbh, hope they add it further down the line

[vital rapids]

they should make a new eternal-style game where Thira is the protagonist and she's really strident and takes charge

[green estuary]

[warm ibex]

it's explained outside of the codex

slayer is entombed, UAC goes to hell and retrieves him

and then boom he's back on mars

[grim cloud]

the Civil War is prob the next doom game. I still dont think that game will end with his entombment

[vital rapids]

there's room for a whole game or two before we're back to mars

[grim cloud]

well yah its many years, millions actually

[vital rapids]

we got to sort that council out for a start

[grim cloud]

but hell has its own story for a eon or two after slayer gets tucked away for a nap

[wide summit]

how does he get entombed again

[warm ibex]

yeah there's several years between TDA and the end of the Argenta Civil War, and then an untold amount of years were the Slayer is trapped in Hell before being entombed. They could probably make another two or three medieval games just based on pre-established events

[wide summit]

was it the maykrs

i forgot 2016 i should prolly check it out again

[warm ibex]

"Yet as the mighty Titan fell and dread engulfed the armies of Doom, the demon priests of the Blood Temples laid a trap to capture this scourge of Hell. Insatiable, even by the vanquishing of the Great One, the Hell Walker sought prey in the tombs of the Blood Keep. And blinded by his fervor, the lure drew him in. The priests brought down the temple upon the Doom Slayer, and in his defeat entombed him in the cursed sarcophagus. The mark of the Doom Slayer was burned upon his crypt, a warning to all of Hell that the terror within must never be freed. There he lies still, and ever more, in silent suffering."

Slayer's Testament VII

[wide summit]

uh huh

thank you

[warm ibex]

yeah man no prob

[wide summit]

its kind of a parallel to what happened to the dark lord if u think abt it

too powerful to be killed, they just trap him for millennia

[silent surge]

someone else tried that, and failed

[wide summit]

lmao yeah

i think they could also semi easily make a game post eternal now just focused on the cosmic realm since its a whole other can of worms compared to hell

[nova shoal]

i joined just to ask a question about a potential bug as its driving me NUTS currently. the game keeps triggering melee attacks when i fire my weapon. it happens after i do a melee attack with the melee button, and then try to fire my weapon right after the melee attack. for some reason it will just do another melee attack and it keeps getting me killed! is there a way to fix this?

[wide summit]

i mean the old one is dead but they could always say theres someone bigger and badder

plus i dont get it threre were like 5 different old ones in the game, why did the witch keep saying oh noo my god is dead

[nova shoal]

if this is intentional, then its absolutely moronic lol

im hoping its just some settings somewhere or even solvable with keybindings

[wide summit]

must be a bug similar to when in eternal the blood punch sometimes does nothing or activates on its own while trying to glory kill

it happened to me too

try not to spam melee i guess

[nova shoal]

really? damn its really messing me up on nightmare lol

doing my first playthrough on nightmare with projectile speed maxxed and parry window on the smallest setting, still surprising how generious the timing window is

oh well, i just shared a link to the stream im in the middle of lol

[warm ibex]

What's your melee binding?

[nova shoal]

F

[warm ibex]

oh wait I think I know the issue

[nova shoal]

i would post a screenshot of the bindings but it wont let me

but if there is a way to solve this......you will make my day

[warm ibex]

it's not a binding issue, you're pressing the melee button more than once so it's swinging twice and ignoring the firing input

it happens all the time

[nova shoal]

nah, im hitting the melee once, its the left click thats triggering it

for some reason, that was the first thing i thought of becuase it reminded me of how dark souls games work

its like left clicking too soon after a melee attack makes it do another melee attack

if you can replicate it, that would really help me out

i tried googling it and found nothing

it might be something people dont notice or it might actually be my settings somehow

i triple checked that i didnt have any extra or overlapping bindings

[warm ibex]

Are you 110% certain? Two melee swings instead of one is a very common issue (which I personally believe stems from some sort of input queuing system mistake)

[nova shoal]

100 percent certain, and dont worry i understand your doubt lol

i have thousands of hours in dark souls and elden ring games so i totally understand why you would be doubtful

[warm ibex]

not that I think you're lying or anything lol, that's just a very unique bug that sounds like another very common one

but that is strange for sure, especially since melee isn't bound to your mouse

[nova shoal]

exactly, next time you load it up try and see if you can replicate it

if it doesnt happen to you, then its gotta be something with my setup

[warm ibex]

you can always submit a ticket at help.bethesda.net

[nova shoal]

i might end up doing that

[warm ibex]

may not get you anywhere but the team has been working pretty hard to help people out recently

better chance of fixing it, I suppose

[nova shoal]

i shared the screenshot of the bindings in screenshots

if your curious

[warm ibex]

I'll take a peek

have you tried swapping the melee input to something else? maybe a mouse side button if you have one

[nova shoal]

thats actually what i started out on using

im live streaming it right now too if you wanna see it in action, i shared the link in the livesteram section

Actually some of it does seem to be multiple inputs on the melee attack, it's just really odd how the input queuing works

How the hell does anyone think these sorts of systems are a good idea?!

[delicate grotto]

It’s an oversight. Input queue holds onto the input for too long causing you to melee more than once. Even if you don’t hit the melee button again at all it seems to reprocess the action sometimes. I’ve ran into it too. Dunno why exactly, but it definitely stems from that queuing issue, as with what Horde mentioned earlier.

[hasty stone]

wonder if we will get an update this week

before Q con...

[green estuary]

Probably not
Just let them cook

[barren shell]

True

Id rather have an update perfected but takes forever

[green estuary]

Besides, it’s only like 2 and a half weeks until Q con

[barren shell]

Yay

I hope they add horde mode

Or master levels

Or both lol

[harsh egret]

I'd laugh my ass off if all there is is khalim master level

[merry sapphire]

that would suck ngl

shortest non mech level in the game man and thats the master level we get

[green estuary]

I doubt they give us master levels just yet—dlc takes priority I would guess
But when they do get around to it I would be shocked if they don’t make master levels for at least one of the cosmic levels

That just seems like a huge fumble

[merry sapphire]

would rather they give us something first before the dlc

[hasty stone]

master levels is just enemy placements

so prolly quake-con...

[neon perch]

My favorite part about this game is how it confirms Doomguy is basically just power walking through the whole of 2016 and Eternal.

[urban sentinel]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[neon perch]

No as in he just decided not to sprint anymore.

[nova shoal]

The more I play this the more it feels like this should have been a quake reboot

[hard thistle]

why would they wait till dlc release to drop the slowmo update? They should just drop it now

[neon perch]

There's nothing Quake about this game. Even the chthulian realm stuff is vastly different from Quake's.

[supple oracle]

This update should be this week

According of what hugo said

[hard thistle]

Huh??? Hugo Martin said that??? when/where? I wanna hear it

[supple oracle]

In the last stream

[supple oracle]

I don't where exacly but I watch the entire stream and I hear him saying the updating is coming next week(which this week)

[green estuary]

I struggle to see any similarities between TDA and quake that weren’t even more pronounced in 2016/Eternal

[hard thistle]

all i heard was hugo saying he has play tested it and it feels great. i don't remember him saying it's releasing this week. i'll have to watch through it again

[green estuary]

where’s cacopog when you need him

I didn’t know there was gonna be an update this week

[supple oracle]

Most likley thursday or friday

[solar cairn]

As if they won’t saw an update for the sake of one of the features

Let them release it all together in August

[supple oracle]

They working in alot QOL stuff, Id also listen to the people, we just need to wait

[solar cairn]

++

In principle, if large patches come out once every 2-3 months, it will be good

[supple oracle]

Hell yeah, Also master levels is coming

[versed fjord]

guys why does the Doom discord decoration vanished from my pfp?

[dreamy lotus]

if you mean the quest one, they disappear after 2 months

[versed fjord]

what how can i got it ?

[solar cairn]

It would be cool if the master levels came out for everyone not atlan/dragon level

[dreamy lotus]

quests are limited time so its probably gone idk tho

[versed fjord]

oh man...

[supple oracle]

Don't think there anything for the atlan missions, maybe the dragon levels like The The Holy City of Aratum, spire of nerathul, resurrection would like to see master levels for those

[nova shoal]

Well for starters you got both nails guns lol

But mostly im talkin about the original description for quake

Back when jt was described on the shareware nag screen for wolfenstien I think

About a guy with some supernatural hammer who uses portals to travel through dimensions

The basic premise was melee combat, and this game should have been more focused on first person melee like chivalry style where aiming actually matters when you swing your weapon

Or dying light series or even dead island series

But combined with their glory kill system.....it would have been amazing. I hate how the game locks in onto enemies automatically and you zoom in towards em automatically

Also hate the fact that it takes control away from you when climbing up those walls

[deep vortex]

Does anyone know when bethesda is going to send out the doom rog strix rtx 5080

[plush needle]

I can't escape this hell
So many times I've tried
But I'm still caged inside
Somebody get me through this nightmare
I can't control myself

So what if you can see the darkest side of me?
No one would ever change this animal I have become
Help me believe it's not the real me
Somebody help me tame this animal
(This animal, this animal)

I can't escape myself
(I can't escape myself)
So many times I've lied
(So many times I've lied)
But there's still rage inside
Somebody get me through this nightmare
I can't control myself

So what if you can see the darkest side of me?
No one would ever change this animal I have become
Help me believe it's not the real me
Somebody help me tame this animal I have become
Help me believe it's not the real me
Somebody help me tame this animal

Somebody help me through this nightmare
I can't control myself
Somebody wake me from this nightmare
I can't escape this hell

So what if you can see the darkest side of me?
No one will ever change this animal I have become
Help me believe it's not the real me
Somebody help me tame this animal I have become
Help me believe it's not the real me
Somebody help me tame this animal
(This animal I have become)

[hasty stone]

wtf

[plush needle]

animal i have become by three days grace

is there an issue

[hasty stone]

trash band

[plush needle]

bad boy

so mean

[hasty stone]

doomguy doesn't approve

[winter blaze]

He does actually

[plush needle]

and there he is

[hasty stone]

doomguy just called me, he said, RUN

[plush needle]

agree

[digital dew]

You calling me

Because I remember not having an opinion on this matter

[atomic dune]

ngl most trpohies in the game arent hard to get if u have the time

[delicate grotto]

This is the easiest Doom game to platinum honestly

Mainly because there’s 0 MP trophies

Thank god.

[frail bloom]

I don't think he ever said that

He made it seem like all the big updates are in quakecon

It's why he said he'll reveal more at quakecon

Reveal and/or release

[hasty stone]

yeah hugo never said when

he prolly not allowed to say

things can change

marty would FIRE HIS ASS

[frail bloom]

NO NOT MARTY

https://tenor.com/view/po-dies-dies-of-death-teletubbies-gif-23885910

[supple oracle]

I might be wrong, stream was long but I remember hear him said that in on point

Maybe I hear wrong

[frail bloom]

Well I was taking notes lmao

[supple oracle]

Fair enough, you right LOL

[nova shoal]

as fun as dark ages is, i think we can all agree, its no eternal

[frail bloom]

Why

[nova shoal]

it definitely lacks the polish and clear direction that eternal had

[frail bloom]

Polish, well ye

I like the combat more

[nova shoal]

and the soundtrack...well...they tried their best but there was no way they could compete with mick gordan

[frail bloom]

And art direction

[frail bloom]

Still an 8/10

[nova shoal]

if mick gordan hadnt existed, then it would have been a fantastic one

[frail bloom]

Mick was like 9.5

[supple oracle]

@frail bloom Thanks for the correction, and sorry everyone who believe me LOL

[nova shoal]

but just the fact the previous two exist and were so insanely good...its not exactly fair competition

[frail bloom]

No worries we're almost there anyways

[nova shoal]

i do think they should have focused more on melee combat and less on weapons

[frail bloom]

Imma be honest with you I don't think people add more than 3 songs from the doom 2016 ost

[supple oracle]

Will be creating content for TDA when the modding tools finished

[green estuary]

[nova shoal]

i prefer eternals soundtrack

[frail bloom]

Same

Eternal was damn refined

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-kenobi-of-course-i-know-him-hes-me-gif-12774102

[nova shoal]

the fact we didnt get proper deathmathc and team deathmatch for eternal is a crime

[frail bloom]

Did you hear tho dlc for tda will be like 2016 to eternal

[nova shoal]

just thinkin about using the meathook in deathmatch.....man that would have been amazing

[frail bloom]

It will be a refinement hugo says

[supple oracle]

I totally understand why people prefer eternal OST, but TDA has so many fire tracks, like ancestral beast, Hellspawn Rift, Unchained Predator, Infernal Chasm, Blood Red, Unholy siege.

[nova shoal]

they all sound the same to me

[frail bloom]

No no I agree 100% but we're talking abt the ost as a whole

The ost as a whole has variety issues

But there's like 8 really good tracks

So it's on the same level as 2016 for me

Considering 2016 had that issue as well

[supple oracle]

Fair

[nova shoal]

at least mick gordans had a variation between more electronic sounding songs and more traditional metal

and they tended to fit the enviroments they were used in perfectly

[frail bloom]

Ye but that was for eternal

[nova shoal]

but to be fair dark ages enviroments arent that varied

[frail bloom]

In 2016 only a few fit

[frail bloom]

What

Compared to eternal or 2016

[nova shoal]

to either, but im halfway through the game

[green estuary]

bruh

[frail bloom]

Oh that explains it

No it gets pretty varied

[nova shoal]

also im at 8 shots of 100 proof southern comfort and taking shots any time i die

[frail bloom]

Objectively

[nova shoal]

im on hellbreaker. first time playing the game and ive been doing it on nightmare with projectile speed maxxed and parry window on the smallest setting

[green estuary]

liver damage incoming

[nova shoal]

i have a wierd unique ability to never get hangobers

[frail bloom]

Game will feel much better to play in the big update

[nova shoal]

discovered this during the covid lockdowns

[frail bloom]

Can't wait to block while switching

That was so obvious to add but they missed that for some reason

[nova shoal]

didnt drink at all before that, but i got really bored and discovered this talent at the old age of 41

i just wish the melee would work without forcing you to lock onto an enemy and ZOOM into them

[frail bloom]

Zoom?

[green estuary]

well then that would mean you could just shield bash into empty space

[frail bloom]

How else would it work

[nova shoal]

it locks onto an enemy and launches towards them regardless of input

[green estuary]

wdym regardless of input

[frail bloom]

Well you pressed melee

[nova shoal]

like every other melee game where you actualy judge your distance manually

it especially makes sense for a weapon like a flail

[frail bloom]

But in this game it's different, it's also your ammo management and falter set up

[nova shoal]

where making sure the distance is correct

[frail bloom]

Trying to do that in a doom game would be awful

[green estuary]

well also you lose protection during a melee strike

[nova shoal]

you still take damage during melee strikes

[green estuary]

so whiffing a melee strike for whatever reason would just be instant death

[nova shoal]

at least on nightmare you do, there are no iframes of any kind that ive seen

[green estuary]

yeah you lose protection lol

[nova shoal]

ive died many a times becuase i was locked into a canned animation

[frail bloom]

You can turn around

[green estuary]

my brother in christ, you were the one who pushed the button 😂

[nova shoal]

almost always when doing a melee attack a second time that was totally unintentional

[frail bloom]

Now that is understandable

[green estuary]

yeah the melee queuing is a bit weird

[frail bloom]

If it's an accidental input that makes sense

[nova shoal]

its the wierd way it does input queing that messes me up, once i figured out what was happening i had to force myself to only hit it once

becuase its not exactly a thing thats ever happened in an fps game to me

dark souls sure, but an fps? definitely a first time for me

[frail bloom]

Ye that part is weird I have to count my strikes now

So I don't over do it

Same goes for blocking

But it's smt Hugo and team would fix

They already fixed blocking while switching

I'm afraid to click

Hmmm