the-dark-ages

[graceful lion]

my main point is that developers do not get paid from your key purchase

and the keys may come from credit card fraud

many developers also prefer you pirated their games than use g2a lol

[shell gull]

im not sure hugo martin is gonna be crying in his bed because some people bought his game off cd keys

[graceful lion]

uh huh, not saying that either

but sometimes buying a key off a reseller is worse than piracy

[shell gull]

😂😂😂

[graceful lion]

people buy keys from stolen credit cards and sell them on g2a to their own card

[shell gull]

maybe other sites but not from CD keys

do background checks next time

[graceful lion]

nope, cdkeys is also one of those sites

[shell gull]

theres so much stuff abt cd keys being legit

dont try and drag others down because u put ur bank details into a website and didnt do any background checks to make sure its safe

[graceful lion]

seems they have changed their ways, they were a grey market in the past

also i just said i wont trust them personally, im not saying YOU dont have to

if you wanna buy cdkeys keys, go ahead

well idk why im having this debate when i bought tda in a way where not a single cent went towards id software

but also, the argument of "wahh its a billion dollar company who cares" also is just stupid, stealing is stealing

atleast i personally think so, if you dont wanna believe that, then go ahead]

[acoustic cosmos]

just butting in here technically those two statements aren't mutually exclusive. you can establish that it's "stealing" while still saying no one really cares :P

[supple vortex]

Is it worth 70 dollars or should I wait for a sale

I hear mixed things on this game

[acoustic cosmos]

if you're on the fence gamepass is there, i dont think this game is going to get a sale for a while

[graceful lion]

no one really cares, i am aware, but it is the truth

no ones gives a shit, but stealing from billion dollar corpos is still stealing

i dont really care if they get stolen from either, nor would i care if a poor company got stolen from, but stealing is still stealing

[idle elk]

modding tools are a thing now

yay

[acoustic cosmos]

well, mod loader but ye im happy it came pretty fast

i really hate having to use cheat engine for the no slow-mo mod

[subtle wyvern]

Are there any blogs linking legit, undeniable evidence to specifically cdkeys doing this?

[graceful lion]

cdkeys is not doing it

or atleast not anymore it seems

they take advantage of sales and regions

[mental grotto]

If buying isn’t owning, piracy isn’t theft. 🤷‍♂️

[empty furnace]

DLC should just be the doomslayer shirtless

[lunar spire]

The Intern?? You gotta be messing with me 🤣

[graceful lion]

your point?

it is a paid product, it literally is theft if you dont pay for it

[mental grotto]

Yeah but you’re not actually buying the game itself, you’re buying a license to play that game that can be taken away at any time, for example with older games where their servers get shut down and can’t be played anymore. Obviously legally it’s still theft, but it’s not the same as say walking into a store and stealing something

[lunar spire]

This is why SKG is so important rn

[mental grotto]

True, I miss when you went to the store and bought a game on disk and that was just the full game. Bugs at launch? Too damn bad. Game’s 15 years old? You can still play, as long as the disk ain’t scratched to hell

I guess pc gaming is partially to blame for that though

[lunar spire]

I miss it too. That was also back during the time when most games were at a minimum standard quality of decent at worst.

[mental grotto]

Nah seriously, it’s a shame (and honestly quite disgusting) how low the quality expectations are for triple A games at launch. Especially nowadays when you’re demanding 70 with talks of games costing 80USD*, at the very, very least it should launch in a playable, relatively bug-free state

[lunar spire]

Look at destiny 2. The new expansion is $100 to get "everything" and it's not even as much content as a destiny 1 expansion 💀

[mental grotto]

Jesus destiny 2 is still a thing?? 😭

That’s insane though

[lunar spire]

I have a ton of hours in that game. I used to love it, but it got to be a money cow really fast, and stopped being a video game and turned into a pay to win gacha style. Not fully, but the premise is there and it works.

The new seasonal armor and weapons just give you straight up 15% damage and health 😭

You gotta pay for that stuff too, and the actual armor from the season looks like blue rarity gear while the ornaments from the paid pass actually look insane, it's so blatantly obvious anymore what they're doing

I could wear year 1 blue gear with base shaders and look better than the armor sets 💀💀

[lunar spire]

You know where it all went to hell? The second it went free to play and wasn't a paid game lmao

[graceful lion]

indeed

its aldo nearly at 1.4m rn which is epic

[graceful lion]

i know you're not literally buying a game, but you are getting something while not paying the people who made it

though tbf u dont pay the farmers for the burger you buy

but yeah while it isnt really "stealing", its still bad

but since piracy isnt stealing, why do people say its bad to pirate indie devs as if its any different from AAA games?

but since skg is gonna make it so piracy is stealing, does that mean after skg piracy is worse because it is stealing?

[graceful lion]

i agree on this also, you should not be paying for something thats shitty or unfinished

if its not relatively bug free, get if out of my view please

[mental grotto]

Nah I get it, but my point is that when you go to the store and buy something physical you own that thing. The guy who sold it to you isn’t gonna show up at your doorstep, take it back and tell you to go fuck urself yk? The same can’t be said about digital video games

[graceful lion]

that is true

yeah like its not permanent, much like, the majority of things on the internet

even your discord account isnt permanent if you dont use it

[split gate]

Mick also said to continue supporting id because he’s aware that the developers there deserve praise and support. Marty is only to blame given what has happened, however, if more involvement from others was present, it needs to be known.

One dick move from a person should not bring down an entire company of people who weren’t involved with the drama and only care about the game their making, because of some fuckass haters

[harsh egret]

bruh i just read through what that guy said

i love it when people ignore that id has some of the most talented devs out there, and hates the company because of one higher up who fucked up that one time

[graceful lion]

true

[harsh egret]

like thats something for Mick to deal with, not for us consumers to rebel against

especially when even Mick said that

oh well, dark ages yes.

[unkempt dragon]

Yeah the topic is so worn out, and we should just drop it tbh. It's been many years and it's none of our business.

[frail bloom]

Hugo stream tommorrow

[frail bloom]

Also am I crazy or is it weird that the previous composers are posting their own ost clips at the time of tda releasing.
Like Mick released some cultist base shorts and then disappeared.
Then Levy released his tda track

Like imagine being inactive for so long and then releasing two shorts, then disappearing

[harsh egret]

he did that before too, i think its just timing
levy was just like his ideas for this game iirc

he released some meathook clip before

[frail bloom]

I wonder how he's doing now

[remote thunder]

2020 ♻️

[frail bloom]

He's working on a game with ex ID employees right?

What was it called I forgor

Hope he's doing alr

Anyways, is Hugo gonna drop some update next week

If anything, he should patch in blocking while switching

[leaden stone]

Hey guys do we need a reminder to drop the topic?

I hope not

[lunar spire]

it gets brought up at least once every two days. it would be cool

[frail bloom]

What topic I'm just wondering how he's doing now

[lunar spire]

oh that

[frail bloom]

Was it smt from before?

[lunar spire]

yeah there was some wacky bs someone was spouting i guess. I have them blocked so idk

[frail bloom]

Oh I see

[leaden stone]

Hence its grown irrelevant

[lunar spire]

Yup!

[leaden stone]

And all this unhealthy speculation shouldn't be the main topic lol

Plus when a Moderator tells you to stop, ya stop

[lunar spire]

I wasn't-

Ah well. I'mma get back to studying then I guess. Love y'all <3

[slender onyx]

So which can we expect to drop first the Master levels or the DLC

[unkempt dragon]

nah you're good

[lunar spire]

Sick, thanks boss

Still gotta get back to it, the big exam is tomorrow

[frail bloom]

Master levels

[unkempt dragon]

The topic just gets brought up a lot by literally everyone that's all. He posts on his Insta though if anyone wants to know what he's been upto

[frail bloom]

Most likely in quakecon this august 7th

[unkempt dragon]

gl!

[frail bloom]

Thank you so much

Alr that helps

[lunar spire]

facts. his new tracks are sick af too. big recommend.

[unkempt dragon]

He's been cooking some music that's all I will say.

[frail bloom]

Oh boi

[lunar spire]

Thank you!!! I really hope I pass it, I don't want $540 to go down the drain :')

[unkempt dragon]

You got this!

[lunar spire]

I do! Just reviewing everything. I think my least favorite part is the wheelchair stuff and pediatric milestones. Pediatric dressing milestones are almost never consisent

[unkempt dragon]

let's go to #general

[lunar spire]

i shall

[storm peak]

hello

:|

[subtle wyvern]

o/

[keen vortex]

Fix frame generation on AMD Gpus it's broken

[graceful lion]

there is a pretty high chance no developer here will hear you

might wanna take it up to bethesda tech support or amd themselves

bc no one knows amd framegen other than well, amd

[orchid rover]

Is TDA gonna be updated to not have that "We're sorry the driver launch was so awful" popup on Steam

[graceful lion]

i dont think that was made yo say that

even since launch it just said "turn on gpu acceleration otherwise things will be bad"

[empty furnace]

they might’ve paid him a long time ago and we didn’t even know

[orchid rover]

Also do we have any word on update 1 xd

or DLC

[arctic robin]

anyone got a way to fix the dark ages black screening on boot? i tried everything and i cant seem to get it working

feel like i wasted 70 dollars for nothing

[orchid rover]

What GPU do you have, what OS etc.

[arctic robin]

rtx 3070 8 Vram
amd ryzen 7 9800x3D
32 gb ram
windows 11

its not a specs issue

[orchid rover]

Turn off GPU scheduling (look up how)

[arctic robin]

hardware accelerated gpu scheduling in the graphics settings?

[orchid rover]

yes

[zenith basin]

Hey, i just dl the game on PC but i have terrible perf (5 fps in the lunchmenu ) therefore i have 16 GB RAM and a RTX 3050. Do you have any idea of what's the problem ?

[graceful lion]

4gb of ram?

how much vram u have

[zenith basin]

how do i look that ?

[graceful lion]

task manager

dedicated memory for gpu in processes

[lunar spire]

I run it on a 3050. is it a laptop or a desktop btw, some laptop GPUs overheat when running it

I wouldn't know how to solve the technical stuff but my game runs 60fps just fine, so its very capable of it

[graceful lion]

oh really?, interesting

[zenith basin]

desktop but the gpu temperature seem normal

[lunar spire]

Weird, I dunno then. Do you overclock?

[arctic robin]

https://imgur.com/a/I3F06Ry

we dead serious?

[graceful lion]

@zenith basin whats ur gpu dedicated memory

[zenith basin]

it says 4

[graceful lion]

oh thats why

u need 6 or more to run tda well

[zenith basin]

and how dp i fix that ?

[graceful lion]

u cant, gotta get a new gpu most likely

can get a 6600xt,

or 2060

just anything rt capable with 6 gigs or morr

[zenith basin]

then how @lunar spire do

we have the same gpu

[graceful lion]

his probsbly has more vram

[lunar spire]

sec

[graceful lion]

not all 3050s have 4 gigs

some 8 iirc

[arctic robin]

it also didnt fix it

[lunar spire]

mine has 8 gb vram

[graceful lion]

yep

autumn can you unblock me btw?

[zenith basin]

why 😭

[graceful lion]

bc thats how that works ig

the 8gig variant is higher priced

nvidia released a 4 gig and an 8 gig thats why

theres also 12 gig 2060s and 6 gig 2060s

there was no 2050 iirc

or 4050

[orchid rover]

It worked for me to stop the crashing

[arctic robin]

"crashing"

[orchid rover]

The game at launch had regular consisrent crashing and disabling it worked for me to never crash again

[lunar spire]

I had my buddy help me put this together, he chose the parts and taught me how to build it. He knew to choose one for me to buy that had more vram I suppose

[arctic robin]

okay

fixing it for me i had to change the graphics from let windows decide to high performance on doom

[zenith basin]

well lets get refunded i guess

[graceful lion]

sad to see it happen

[arctic robin]

but i cant play in 2k

[graceful lion]

but yeah ots the reason u saw a shit ton of people say 8 gigs is not enough nowadays

for vram

[charred oasis]

Hey just a question. Ik how stupid this sounds, but what is the motion blur amount setting? What does it mean? Does it mean how much motion blur there is, or does it increase the amount of objects that gain motion blur (sry if this makes no sense)

[dreamy kiln]

It increases how much motion blur there is, and almost no question in this server is stupid

[charred oasis]

lol ty

[dreamy kiln]

Np

[lunar spire]

so true..

[subtle wyvern]

Works for me

[fleet spruce]

just use lossless scaling

[subtle wyvern]

lossless scaling is worse than in game implemented fg

[graceful lion]

what about optiscaler?, hjeard stuff about it

[subtle wyvern]

usually in game ones are always better because they have access to motion vectors

but optiscaler usually hooks into ingame ones

[lunar spire]

why

[graceful lion]

because i feel i've been blocked enough?, like it was over a lore discussion when you were busy, is that enough of a big deal for you that you have me blocked permanently?

[unkempt dragon]

Let it go, respect boundaries in here if they are set by someone please.

The end

[graceful lion]

alright

[unkempt dragon]

Ty

[lunar spire]

That explanation was also not enough for me to do it in the first place, thank you LM

[graceful lion]

i see, ok

[dreamy kiln]

What lore are yall talking about?

[lunar spire]

I am not talking about lore, not currently.

[graceful lion]

it was something sometime ago where i said hell is not literally infinite, but can grow infinitely iirc

[dreamy kiln]

Oh, mb

[lunar spire]

all good! I don't really remember what it was over and idrc, I don't like to feel attacked when I'm just chatting about

[dreamy kiln]

That depends on how much it consumes

[graceful lion]

didnt want to make you feel unsafe or attacked, mb

[graceful lion]

i mean, not really, it can grow forever, but that doesnt mean it growing faster will make it become infinite faster, maybe eventually, but infinity is well, never ending

[dreamy kiln]

Yes, but the only thing stopping it is how many worlds there are in the universe and the realms

[graceful lion]

well its not really based on how much it consumed from the universe, just if its infinite or not, thats what infinity is

[dreamy kiln]

Well, then yes, it's infinite

[graceful lion]

it is not infinite, but it can grow to an infinite amount

[dreamy kiln]

Yes, but like I said, it could consume every world and realm could be only a certain number, therefore there's only gonna be infinite space leftover

[graceful lion]

unless hell can just make new places, instead of consuming existing ones (which im not sure if it can or not) it cant really be infinite

[dreamy kiln]

It shouldn't be able to, it's practically dead

[graceful lion]

yes, it is still finite after consuming all thespaces, but it still has infinite space

[graceful lion]

fair point

[graceful lion]

or like consuming all physical ground available

[subtle wyvern]

Infinite is a pretty absract term so it's hard to define what would be infinite

[graceful lion]

something that never ends

no matter if you walked across hell for billions and billions of years, you will not be close to the end

something with no end, only a beginning

well i guess it wont have a beginning in that case

[subtle wyvern]

It's kind of hard to define really because there are some cases where it might not be infinite but it can seem that way. Say like a phone can only complete a limited amount of actions but you can technically do an unlimited amount of things on said phone

[grim cloud]

nothing truly is infinite except numbers imo

hell has a edge, much like our universe has a edge.

[ripe gull]

im attempting pandemonium and eventually ultra nightmare. i was wondering if there is a specific melee i should prioritize?

[agile sonnet]

4th ever ultra nightmare run, wish me luck chat

[lunar spire]

Depends on your play style. Do you like having armor or big damage potential?

[indigo jacinth]

guys will doom tda run in my 20y old pc?

[hearty edge]

yes

[ripe gull]

I like staying alive

[lunar spire]

Probably flail

[ripe gull]

but also killing the things that do big dmg is prob better

i was thinking flail and the switch to mace when i get ut

[lunar spire]

I think flail is better for survivability

[ripe gull]

aight

ty

[lunar spire]

Yee

[solar cairn]

I’ve often seen a glove in many passes, but maybe I was so lucky

I understood that because of the quick receipt of charges and the ability to effectively spend charges in several demons

[lunar spire]

Glove is good. The shock it provides can be used for sick dps

I think all melee is good, just different use cases

[solar cairn]

The mace is too slow, it practically turns you out of the game, making you wait for the fat demon

[lunar spire]

You gotta plan ahead typically

It's great for bosses

[rough heart]

Fact imp has archvile sfx dying sound when you hit him

From doom 2

[west estuary]

anybody have any advice for me to 100% doom the dark ages?

i have all toys all papers and all rubys

and i need 2 competionist wraps for guns

and 1 question, if i play and complete the max difficulty, will it pop the acheivments for the other difficulty quests or no?

pls dm or reply to the message

i perfer dms though

[delicate grotto]

There’s no singular difficulty achievements.
Just 100% your save file, including weapon masteries. Doing that will complete all achievements.

[west estuary]

ok thank you!

[silent surge]

watch dscisiv’s tutorials/runs and adjust for safety over speed - for instance going to an upgrade earlier than later, even if it’s slightly out of the way, so you can get it earlier

however, safe speed is good. more time in a fight can mean more mistakes made and more chance of dying. but also you don’t wanna rush it

i’m learning and practicing 100% myself

you can run past more encounters than you’d think. like in classic doom

[west estuary]

hah thats funny

[silent surge]

you’d be surprised

[zinc crater]

Bro Allstin is here!

[hasty stone]

update tomorrow?

[main river]

Can anyone tell me what the glowing wolf statues do

[blissful condor]

Hello, I have a problem playing Dark Ages. Every time you start it and the loading screen appears, it closes and a Bugsplat tab appears saying that you hear an error. (I play on PC using Game Pass)

[mossy geyser]

Medieval weapons are cool but the ram and shit needed is a lot. It is shitty

[bronze surge]

Throw ur shield at them. Eventually you'll find a room with one of the purple upgrade shards. Find and break remaining wolf's statues.

[main river]

thanks

[split gate]

Food for thought: should delayed attacks like the Aggadon Hunter’s overhead or the Komodo’s ground pound flash green only just before the impact or keep it as is, when the animation starts? I noticed that it can cause players to mess up their parries if they only parry the start of the animation, because you’re immediately inclined to parry the moment you see the green flash

[violet lynx]

why hasn't doom devs added multiplayer to campaign, doom would good from best game to UNARGUEBLY THE GREATEST GAME OF ALL TIME FOREVER

[split gate]

Because the combat loop isn’t fit for multiplayer. It’s handcrafted for a single player experience.

Part of the reason why it is so good is because it fits singleplayer type of gameplay

If you want multiplayer for Doom Eternal, you would end up taking away or reducing a majority of the combat mechanics which made Eternal fantastic in the first place

[violet lynx]

i player multiplayer mod for hell on earth and it was way more fun than solo

just double the enmies then its good

[bronze surge]

Or make dif enemy varients

Like how we had the stone imps

And amoured hell nights

[violet lynx]

exactly

the game beibg multiplayer doesn't take away from anything

so @split gate incorrect about that

[bronze surge]

It kinda takes away the feeling of being a one man army

But I can see where you're coming from

[split gate]

Not really incorrect, I’m all up for multiplayer too, I just don’t see it being balanced or as fun as singleplayer, but I’m happy to see you enjoying the mod! More than one slayer makes it feel almost broken

[bronze surge]

Yeah like more than one anchor beings or smt

Which I believe is impossible

@violet lynx I so want that frame I missed it tho 😞

[split gate]

Eternal’s gameplay already makes you feel unstoppable, when you master the mechanics. Having more than two reduces the challenge easily. You could have as many demons as you want fitting for two slayers but tbh, having only one does the job and it feels more rewarding

Part of Eternal is the challenge and difficulty. The mod can be fun, but it definitely would be missing that challenge aspect Eternal is known for

[vagrant path]

I hope for whatever the dlc has, we get even more classic inspired demons to fight.

would love to finally fight the demons from the codex art and doom'93 cover art.

[marble seal]

I want Doom 64 inspired designs

And I thought Doom 64 Cacodemon has a better design for me

[rare wolf]

My TDA review is starting to do decently well (for a first video at least) and I want to thank everyone here that watched it

yall are goats

[dark thunder]

what ur channel

Oh wait i see

I like then watch tomorrow

[rare wolf]

Heck yeah thanks homie

[dark thunder]

first few seconds it already gives super professional vibes

[rare wolf]

Well I did go to school for broadcasting and record it at my radio station (my as in one I work at, not own) so I really hope it does lmao

Jokes aside I do appreciate it

I haven't edited video in a while so I felt a bit rusty

[terse parcel]

Anyone who has beaten the game on everything cranked against the slayer and in favor of the demons… do you guys have any tips on the first encounter of the Vagary Champion?

500% to slayer
50% to demon
Minimal resource value

Yes I know lol. I signed up for this chaos. But this is a really terrible roadblock I cannot get past

I shoot too far back, I do virtually no damage and lose all my ammo. I shoot too close, he shoots “get off me” acid and will randomly smack me and erase my shield

Then Mancubus’ spawn and cause a whole new set of problems lol

[torpid copper]

Everything cranked against you is that even possible

[terse parcel]

It’s an option in the game so it has to be possible

[torpid copper]

I mean ig it’s possible to beat lol

[terse parcel]

Unless it genuinely isn’t properly designed

Run down of my settings for more context:

-lowest parry window
-damage to demon 50%
-damage to slayer 500%
-highest enemy aggression
-Fastest game speed
-minimal daze duration
-highest projectile speed
-lowest resource value

[short mountain]

yeah its just crazy hard

[wheat sigil]

min daze duration is cancer

may as well turn off the daze

[spark summit]

(This is unrelated to this conversation) If they ever release TDA for the older consoles (which they most likely won't do) a lot of people who like playing on Xbox one or PlayStation 4 would be able to enjoy the entire DOOM franchise

[foggy dust]

how do i upload images here?

[foggy dust]

power gauntlet is broken and when upgraded kills agaddon hunter by just spamming melee button. when you get the dreadmace, upgrade and use it. i personally use shotgun for armor and turret for health

[graceful lion]

i dont think thats possible unless the game is rebuilt from the ground up and downgraded

the ps4 is 12 years old

[spark summit]

I understand

I just wondered if they ever tried if they actually could push a release for it

If they were to make it

[graceful lion]

it would also require making the game again

and also, using a completely different engine

[harsh egret]

in case ppl didnt hear, hugo said they will prob add a feature that allows u to double-tap the keybind for a specific weapon class so that when u switch to it it specifically switches u to the first in that class (single-tap) or the second in that class (double-tap), or so i assume. maybe instead its doubletap to switch to the one NOT last equipped in that slot, so if u had the ssg last equipped in the shotgun class, then doubletapping it would give u the combad shotgun instead

pretty neat imo

[graceful lion]

and since the differences between tda and eternal's engine seem so drastic, it would be waiting another game for the tda legacy remake

which is probably not worth it for them

[harsh egret]

@frail bloom

[subtle wyvern]

Honestly I think the game would be plausible to run on last gen without rt and their equivalent to nanite

[spark summit]

Yeah maybe

[graceful lion]

ehh i dont think so

tda's raytracing is better performing than eternal's

[subtle wyvern]

Are you sure?

[graceful lion]

i literally am

[subtle wyvern]

How

[harsh egret]

yes lol

[graceful lion]

someone here with a laptop got more fps on tda than turning on raytracing for eternal

[subtle wyvern]

Not the case for me at all

[graceful lion]

it is more performant and looks alot better

[harsh egret]

r u telling me u look at fps but u dont look at the fact that rt isnt implemented to the same extent as tda whatsoever

[foggy dust]

using ultra low config it actually runs pretty well

[subtle wyvern]

Performance and the rt implementation are different

[harsh egret]

bruh

[subtle wyvern]

This was solely talking about performance

[harsh egret]

well he is still sure that the RT performance is better, he IS right

thats what u asked him if he is sure about

[graceful lion]

though i am pretty sure someone here with a laptop got better performance on tda than playing eternal with RT enabled

[subtle wyvern]

Imma test it

[foggy dust]

why would you even play eternal with rt

[harsh egret]

i personally dont, but

[foggy dust]

the game is so intense you barely notice a difference in visuals

[spark summit]

People have made some current gen AAA games work and run well on older gen consoles

[spark summit]

Yeah

[graceful lion]

ok?

but tda is so incredibly tight it might take a while to do so

though nvidia is talking about making some sort of tech where it literally halves the vram usage

and makes games, 50% smaller

atleast, future games, not current ones

[spark summit]

That might work in their favor

[graceful lion]

although

thats for pcs, not for consoles, idk how itd work for consoles

gddr6 is literally twice as fast as gddr5, so older consoles would literally consume twice as much vram

[harsh egret]

i mean, playing with RT doesnt even reduce my performance that much in that game, and to me the visual diff is pretty noticeable and i like it on

its all just reflections anyway

[graceful lion]

yeah. since RT mostly depends on your RT cores, not really on your entire gpu

i believe that tda's raytracing consumes less vram than eternal's, while looking better

[subtle wyvern]

Depending on the game RT can be insanely CPU heavy too

ie Spider-Man 2

[graceful lion]

i mean, its dependant on how many reflections there are in that case

[spark summit]

At this point I might just upgrade and transfer all my games over

[graceful lion]

although, is that raytracing or just the cpu's own reflection stuff?

[subtle wyvern]

When I enable RT in spider-man 2 I get CPU bound down into the 40s

[harsh egret]

and honestly people meme about framegen but 2x framegen on dark ages i barely feel any increased input delay, and let me tell u... i notice those things very easily

[graceful lion]

because sometimes the cpu does the reflection calculations, in tda i could bump most of my settings to ultra nightmare on a 6 gig 2060, turn on above 4g encoding and resizable bar, and it runs great

[harsh egret]

so that + framegen is actually great

[graceful lion]

yueah alot of people have been saying framegen x2 is really good

[harsh egret]

oh it is

[graceful lion]

going beyond youll notice alot

[spark summit]

Wait, does TDA on Series S look that good?

[harsh egret]

exclusive to 50 series but yh..

[subtle wyvern]

I'm not really a fan of it because I can notice the artifacting

[harsh egret]

yep

[graceful lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOx37d1mae0

[harsh egret]

i think actually its not that bad imo at all

[spark summit]

Ty

[graceful lion]

oh trust me it will get better overtime

[subtle wyvern]

It's not that bad at all but I just prefer without

[graceful lion]

give it a couple years, or even one, and boom

[harsh egret]

idk, playing with PT + 2x FG is just

[subtle wyvern]

Everytime I have used it, it has just felt wrong

the only scenario I liked it was when my FPS was just between the boundary of my TV's VRR range which was causing stuttering

[graceful lion]

i mean, yeah, human eyes are precise as fuck and they will know if something is off

[harsh egret]

cyberpunk frame gen is where its just BAD

at least when i tested it a couple months ago

[subtle wyvern]

They are adding FSR 3.1 FG today

[harsh egret]

so ive heard

[graceful lion]

i wonder if i should get a 60 series or 70 series amd gpu for my next, because 90 series is way too expensive rn

planning to replace my gpu in like a few years, like i did before

[subtle wyvern]

Windows isn't letting me screenshot but with rt at 4k on eternal I get 110fps

[subtle wyvern]

Depends really

They are pretty similar but 7000 series has better rt really

and might get fsr 4 in the future

[graceful lion]

yeah, but even the 6800 is like less than 300 bucks converted to my currency rn

so i may get that because its incredibly good, and probably gonna be a while until it's obsolete

[subtle wyvern]

The 6800 also has really good power efficiency

[graceful lion]

yea

but for now ill need a new PSU, because theres this issue going around where my psu seems to just turn off my screen, and make my gpu fans spin at max speed, weirdly enough it happens after i close roblox, and not everytime

[subtle wyvern]

Weird

I know recently nvidia drivers have been having issues with black screening, if you have one it might be that???

[graceful lion]

nah i dont think so

it also happened with my rx 580, though that was after windows drivers, not nvidia ones

[subtle wyvern]

I mean, a ddu is always worth a try since it is pretty low risk

(I recommend doing a ddu for every manufacturer too)

[graceful lion]

i did

literally also did a factory reset and rechecked my ddu

[subtle wyvern]

Damn, that is likely not that then

I also recommend turning off sleep mode since windows doesnt play well with it

[hasty stone]

Doom patch today

Prolly or balance update

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[split gate]

No way, next thing you know, Silksong coming tomorrow

[empty furnace]

Silksong tomorrow

[frail bloom]

Where was this from?

[harsh egret]

mayo's stream

[silent surge]

i saw mayo had that issue last night

[frail bloom]

Oh

Why does he keep doing that imma miss the info

What else was that it

[harsh egret]

i missed it myself but mr @merry sapphire told me about it xD

dont remember, wasnt too much

i expect him to talk about it prob today

[frail bloom]

Well there is a stream today

[hasty stone]

Wtf is silksong

[graceful lion]

hollow knight part 2 ig

[silver flame]

It indeed does

I was gonna say it’s more like 2016 and classic I feel

[acoustic fulcrum]

Hi all. I have lost all my progress in Dark Ages due to a crash. I was fighting the final boss, and my pc crashed to a black screen. Had to restart and after the restart my save game seems corrupted, with question marks instead of title/text. Tried to open it but it crashes to desktop every time. (Bugsplat shows up). I tried to recover - found a backup in the save folder, but renaming the backup save files to match the current files does nothing, same problem. I had all levels on 100% and was about to finish the game. Is there any way i can recover the backup files? Thanks!

[split gate]

One of the most anticipated sequels to a peak game

[harsh egret]

fuck, there goes my shieldsaw avatar

[meager vortex]

maybe your pc wrong to play tda what is your pc spec???

[acoustic fulcrum]

i912900k/64GBDDR5/RTX4090. I was running everything maxed out with no issues, the specs are not the problem.

[meager vortex]

have you checked driver update?

if driver software issue you must roll back

[acoustic fulcrum]

yes, it's not that. It's the save file. I can start a new game and it works fine now, but i want to recover my progress, as i invested a ton of time in finding all secrets.

[fleet spruce]

it's literally just corruption of the save file (data becoming unreadable)

[meager vortex]

savefile damged ok activate steam cloud then

[frail bloom]

Bruh you're naked

[acoustic fulcrum]

it's on Battlenet unfortunately, so no cloud backups it seems.

[meager vortex]

oh......

that mean is you must talk battlenet

[acoustic fulcrum]

they don't have cloud backups

[meager vortex]

yeah

that mean is you must restart game

damn

holy moly

https://tenor.com/view/sealyx-naked-gun-the-naked-gun-facepalm-facepalm-meme-gif-11743768702765397589

[acoustic fulcrum]

That's not an option, as this can happen again any time. It seems the game is not stable...yet.

[meager vortex]

battlenet problem

[acoustic fulcrum]

Imagine i invest the same amount oh hours and it happens again

[meager vortex]

steam works fine

do you have a xbox gampass?

[acoustic fulcrum]

no. just a regular licence

[meager vortex]

battlenet and xbox gamepass connected

[acoustic fulcrum]

i enjoyed Doom Eternal so much i even bought the premium version. So dissapointed.

[meager vortex]

battlenet xbox is connected maybe you can play it

[wind dawn]

Mine too

[meager vortex]

damn mine too

it just event

[half spindle]

Im glad it was not eternal 2. Each game is fun and unique in its own way.

[meager vortex]

shield saw is gone

[acoustic fulcrum]

Don't get me wrong, i enjoyed the game. I am dissapointed in losing all my progress.

[harsh egret]

Lmao literally what i was thinking

[wind dawn]

Guys how can i complete Accelerator mastery challenge quickly?

[half spindle]

[dark thunder]

can we see the slayer go beast mode in the dlc, like the most locked in he's ever been. I like to think that the dlc is gonna be about hunting the high council of hell who is partially responsible for the invasion of his original earth, and he's been on that quest to kill them, but every time he's been trying to go after them, something comes up like getting sent to the sentinels and then the invasions and then the divinity machines and then being a slave weapon of the maykrs

Also I wonder how far in the timeline its been since he was put in the divinity machine

[silent surge]

works great on the kreed

any sustained fire. komodos too

i can get almost half the mastery on kreed alone

[frail bloom]

I kinda lost you there chief

The divinity machine was before

So that is outta the question

[dark thunder]

basically i think he's been trying to kill the high council but things keep getting in the way

that's why he wastes no time || after killing ahzrak||

[frail bloom]

If anything, the only thing that might grope him outta his hunting from the codex is him being recruited by the sentinels to go find the nekravol tower

[dark thunder]

And i'm wondering like how many years it has been since the divinity machine at the time of the dark ages

like dark ages takes place x amount of years after the divinity machine

[frail bloom]

We're not sure

All I want to do is some good ol killing demon stuff

In good ol Hell

[dark thunder]

need to see him go beast mode on the high council

[frail bloom]

Like what does that mean

Do you wanna see him waste no time

Like plow through stuff

In the cutscenes

Like 2016 style

[harsh egret]

vega i will find u

[merry sapphire]

saw it and Had to let you know

[harsh egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1395449414369153094/image.png?ex=687a7d0a&is=68792b8a&hm=933a4d23747305db5f28d5bc042110aad0aee49368333a092840f0668380a061&

[frail bloom]

AM????

[harsh egret]

[dark thunder]

i want to see him super mad and locked in, like some crazy stuff worthy of his legend

[frail bloom]

Oh wait you live somewhere else

[harsh egret]

its always been at 1 am for me here

yeah xd

[frail bloom]

Ye I just realized

[frail bloom]

Aura farming as they say

[harsh egret]

from what i understood at least, the part where u kill hella demons in the room right before u reach thira to rescue her, that whole thing was supposed to be a cutscene of the slayer just slaughtering everything in his way

instead u do it yourself, but wouldve been cool asf to see that cutscene

[frail bloom]

Huh I see

Would be cool to see bc cutscenes are more dynamic

[harsh egret]

need cutscenes of the slayer just straight up killing lots of demons

[pastel sedge]

e

[harsh egret]

true

[frail bloom]

Damn it he knows a lot

We usually never get much intelligent people

Hugo better drop some fat info

@harsh egret
Are you taking notes this time

[harsh egret]

yh

[frail bloom]

How do you stay up past 1:00 AM don't you have smt to do

Or are you on vacation

I can bc I'm on summer break

[harsh egret]

ive been staying up til 4-5 pretty often for months now

[frail bloom]

I also happen to not be an adult

[harsh egret]

during vacation now its been better but not when hugo streams

my schedule allows it ig

[frail bloom]

I see

[harsh egret]

or i make my schedule allow it xD

[frail bloom]

Right

[harsh egret]

but ye i dont recommend it

ill fix my sleep schedule soon :d

[frail bloom]

When's that

[harsh egret]

good question

[frail bloom]

Uh huh

[lament lotus]

Finally finished my 100% Pandemonium playthrough.

I beat the final boss in the dumbest way possible. No fancy tricks, no massive burst damage. Not even using the dreadmace.

Literally just "oops, all plasma accelerator"

[grim cloud]

Should they do the follow up level with the mech because its so short?

[barren shell]

Second I got cycler i ditched my accelerator and who uses anything but dreadmace after the second mission in the cosmic realm 😭

[mental thistle]

Absolutely! Doom the dark ages is made to run wonderfully on older computers

[subtle wyvern]

Yes

[unkempt dragon]

lol stop

yeah ofc

[mental thistle]

Is joke

[unkempt dragon]

I basically had to build an entire new pc to run it 😭 But now I'm good

[subtle wyvern]

The game was really fun to play, it would have been nice to have above 60, tbh

[unkempt dragon]

I'm playing right now and getting my ass beat lol

I sped up the projectiles to the max

[subtle wyvern]

Yeah

[subtle wyvern]

I played the game at launch which was before they made the game more difficult so I found it too easy 😭

[unkempt dragon]

Yeah I heard it's harder now, which honestly makes me feel better abt myself 😆 Like, you're not SO bad, me!

[subtle wyvern]

Exactly haha

Anyway, being bad at a game isn't a negative. You all play games to enjoy them, not to be better than someone else

[unkempt dragon]

Classic Doomer me is like "I can handle the crazy fast projectiles! Yipee!" dies

[unkempt dragon]

absolutely 🙂

[subtle wyvern]

What difficulty are you playing the game on?

[mental thistle]

Guys play on an old pc and turn on path tracing

[unkempt dragon]

Nightmare 💀

[lament lotus]

The trick is to use the mega cell and rate-of-fire upgrades. Your ROF is so high that you can get the boss staggered in around a minute.

But at the same time I getcha. Cycler my beloved. 💜

[frail bloom]

I just realized

They have to make another menu theme song right?

Bc they made a new one for eternal for dlc to build up hype

In my humble opinion, if they were to do a dlc menu theme

It should be "Message from the Archvile"

That way it has a fair chance of competing with WTSFL

[solar cairn]

I don’t think I would add new topics to the main menu first..

[frail bloom]

New topics?

Wdym by that

[solar cairn]

Possibly static scenes from different beautiful levels

[harsh egret]

slight language barrier :d

[frail bloom]

Ye sad

Alr maaaybe try articulating

So I can understand

[harsh egret]

i think he means no new track but new background for the main menu

[frail bloom]

Ohhh

Well why not a new track and new backround

[solar cairn]

I meant the graphic design of the main menu, now the executioner is standing against the background of the village of Kalim, but it would be cool if it could be changed to other scenes from other levels. In Eternal, the main menu is customizable

[frail bloom]

Ye maybe he's in the kreedship with hell in the backround

But on the topic of main menu themes, if they were gonna do a dlc version, I'd choose "Message for the Archvile"

[solar cairn]

I hope in the dlc they will make regular levels without mechs and flights on other dragons

[frail bloom]

Most likely

[solar cairn]

It would be cool if the dlc was also divided into 2 parts, I don’t want to wait a whole year

[frail bloom]

I will

They'll release other stuff

Like master levels and horde mode

Or smt we haven't heard of

I want dlc to be quality

[terse parcel]

I’m doing a new run and unless there is an upgrade later on that I forgot that fixes this… does anyone else find it sort of lame that the slayer is forced to put his shield down when he swaps weapons?

[frail bloom]

They're fixing that

[terse parcel]

They are? Awesome.

[frail bloom]

Yup

[solar cairn]

I didn’t even notice this moment at a speed of 150 and in fact I found out only now

[terse parcel]

I’m fighting the Vagary Champion and it kind of triggers me that I can’t swap during his “guitar hero” attack move (the 5 beams) without putting my shield down and taking a hit

[solar cairn]

Is it a periodic bug or does the mechanics work like that all the time?

[frail bloom]

It's always like that

You have to swap both

But in the new update, you can swap your gun while raising the shield

Dynamic gameplay, go!

[solar cairn]

Again, I played on 300 percent of the executioner’s damage and there the shield is destroyed instantly

[frail bloom]

He's called the Doom Slayer

If you care

Hell, Doomguy

Executioner is cool tho but like you're the only guy calling him that and it can get confusing

[terse parcel]

I’m on 500%

Literally all the Champion’s hits insta kill the shield

[solar cairn]

Doomboy

[frail bloom]

Alr alr

[solar cairn]

Fucking Fuck

I died on such difficulty instantly entering the arena

[terse parcel]

He kills you in two hits

And the mancubus’ create a whole new set of problems lol

[harsh egret]

i remember hugo trying to play on 500% dmg

safe to say thats NOT for him

[frail bloom]

Remember? He's gonna do it in an hr and 30 min

[harsh egret]

pls no

[frail bloom]

Another long stream...

[maiden onyx]

You should remove their arms with the impaler and use their waddling bodies as meat shields

[terse parcel]

OOOOH

[harsh egret]

didnt he turn it down last time

[frail bloom]

He did?

[terse parcel]

I FORGOT ABOUT THE LIMB THING

[harsh egret]

idk xd

[frail bloom]

I don't remember

[frail bloom]

Tbf I don't know what triggers delimbing

[maiden onyx]

don't worry, I also forget I have limbs sometimes

[solar cairn]

There are so many demons running around in the 2nd half of the game that you don’t have time to think

[maiden onyx]

oh yeah for sure, but for the initial vagary encounters it's quite nice

And by that point you do so much damage it don't matter

[terse parcel]

Yeah this might actually not work…..

I’m on least resources value as well

[dusk robin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yDQrNkEXKc the mad lad actually did it

[terse parcel]

Getting rid of one limb is over half my shotgun ammo

Unless the implailer could work

Which I tried and it didn’t seem to work unless I’m just hitting the wrong spot

[harsh egret]

u can ssg the left and the right of his body so it hits his arms

but u have to ssg outside of the default crosshair cuz theres pellets going outside of it slightly

[terse parcel]

It’s a brand new run. I only have 4 guns.

[harsh egret]

ah

[terse parcel]

5 if you count the impailer

[harsh egret]

iirc the impaler doesnt really work for that

[terse parcel]

Yeah it didn’t seem to do much on the arm

My current strat is just killing one mancubus, keeping the other alive with only one limb, then just chipping away at the champion

[hasty stone]

no patch or balance updates today yet Hugo said they got the slow-mo slider working like a week or two ago...

i think the patch will be for quakecon it looks like

[harsh egret]

what did i tell u

[hasty stone]

pretty sure they gonna add more save lsots

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-yoda-patience-sw3-gif-21070142

[hasty stone]

slots*@harsh egretu always right

maybe HUGOOO will tell us more tonight

[harsh egret]

always lol im just replying to u asking for patches all the time

[harsh egret]

he usually does

he said on mayo's stream that he will talk about stuff soon

[hasty stone]

oh which mayo stream?

[harsh egret]

latest one

he was in the chat at one point

[harsh egret]

biggest thing he mentioned was this tho, and nothing else really

[hasty stone]

i just use the weapon wheel

meh

[harsh egret]

its super nice

if u dont use the weapon wheel :d

[dusk robin]

its nice to see how well animated Doomguys face is despite him wearing a helmet 90% of the game

[harsh egret]

i think most people dont, not on pc

[harsh egret]

just gotta animate him saying "run" and they good to go xd

i hope they release an official skin or smth for him so it gets rid of the light as well

[hasty stone]

i've been playing pc games since wolfenstien 1 and im stick of hitting numbers/letters for weapons

the weapon wheel is much easier

[dusk robin]

yeah, im hoping that as well.

[harsh egret]

im used to pressing 1-8 or whatever, i dont even bind any weapons to anything else

[dusk robin]

I hope in the future Dark Ages will have the same mod menu like Eternal

[harsh egret]

i think it will

[terse parcel]

I have been using the Razer Naga Trinity. IMO the greatest mouse for doom.

Swap to any weapon with just ur thumb

[maiden onyx]

fellow Naga user 🥺
Lost a 12 year old one a month ago

[terse parcel]

Haven’t fat-fingered since

[terse parcel]

eyyyy!

[maiden onyx]

I can't go to any other mouse anymore, having that access to the numpad is just so good

[terse parcel]

Had mine since the release of Eternal. Hasn’t gave out just yet.

[harsh egret]

the shape is not it for me

i tried it in a store along with many others

i hated the superlights as well, god damn

[maiden onyx]

They're super strong, the one that I said died still has all other functionality, but the sensor has deteriorated enough with age that it's just not built for games anymore

[maiden onyx]

What's your go to?

[harsh egret]

deathadder v3

i had the viper 8k before it but i like the da v3 alot more, i think i like right handed mice way more

also nice to see some more fellow razer enjoyers 😎

all my friends with logitech mice meme on razer

gigachad

[maiden onyx]

unbelievably based

Had a pal who used a trackpad for 2016, had some of the most fun gameplay I've ever seen. unfortunately dtda is not trackpad friendly 😔

[subtle wyvern]

Playing on a trackpad seems real fun ngl

[solar cairn]

I can’t imagine how skillful you are, I have a razer naga with side buttons, only thanks to this I can quickly change weapons in doom and other games with a selector

[frail bloom]

START THE STREAM

[unkempt dragon]

I'm doing some work rn but would appreciate if you gave cliffnotes after!

[frail bloom]

Technical issues again

[frail bloom]

Of course I have paper right now lmao

[unkempt dragon]

wait do you really

[frail bloom]

Yup

[unkempt dragon]

💀

amazing

[frail bloom]

I don't joke around when Hugo streams

And Hato might sleep soon so I gotta carry the torch

Anyways I can't do all of that if he doesn't start

[supple oracle]

wer strem ??

[unkempt dragon]

I'mma hop on in like 15

[harsh egret]

i am not sleeping dw xD

[frail bloom]

But you're gonna take muh thunder

/j

[harsh egret]

[frail bloom]

I'll just take thorough notes

[harsh egret]

didnt expect nerdy hugo

[frail bloom]

So I might be delayed

[harsh egret]

with the glasses and all

[frail bloom]

Well

This is annoying

I only gave myself like 2 hrs so I'm hoping he starts soon

[harsh egret]

yeah did u see superman samir?

[frail bloom]

I could've been watching the asterix and obelix movie smh

[rare wolf]

logitech g600 gaming mouse goes hard for weapon swapping

[harsh egret]

[frail bloom]

No I'm not much of a movie goer is it good

Or decent at least

[harsh egret]

(im joking i dont mind them talking about random shit)

no i was memeing cuz they talking about it rn

[frail bloom]

Oh the live chat

Ugh

[hasty stone]

🙂

oogo hugo

[frail bloom]

I know bro I know

Wait

Is he live on twitch

Just asking

[harsh egret]

yes

[frail bloom]

HEY WHAT ABT YOUTUBE

What's he saying

[harsh egret]

twitch is superior

talking about superman

[hasty stone]

hugo is late

[harsh egret]

theyve been at it for like 10 mins

[hasty stone]

i hate twitch

[frail bloom]

What the hell

What abt youtube

[harsh egret]

👈

[frail bloom]

I swear if he says smt useful and I don't hear it

[harsh egret]

its live on yt lol wdym

[frail bloom]

Oh my god

It didn't refresh

So I was stuck on the thumbnail

Damn it

Alr well I don't think they said anything useful rn

[hasty stone]

guess its broken for YT

[frail bloom]

You just have to leave and then go back

[hasty stone]

k thx

[frail bloom]

Hugo cheesing rn

[harsh egret]

that shirt is sick

[frail bloom]

Sure

[harsh egret]

yey.. hugo confirming slow mo slider for the 4th time..

[frail bloom]

...

Wow that was a heavy load huh

I'm a little dissapointed

Wait what?

Block after a shield charge I'm confused

[harsh egret]

no clue

[frail bloom]

Welp I guess I'll skimp on that

I'll ask Devo after I guess

If it is the weapon swap buff but Hugo like had a stroke

[harsh egret]

LMAO

[frail bloom]

@compact hemlock Sorry for pinging again. Did Hugo just confirm a weapons swap speed buff? I think he meant that but he said it in a weird way

[harsh egret]

he is in twitch chat btw

[hasty stone]

lol hugo never said when were getting the stuff he mentioned

[frail bloom]

Damn can you ask him his interpertation

Pls

[frail bloom]

Ye I know I feel scammed

[compact hemlock]

Hey Samir, all good. I'm watching the stream, exciting news 😄

[harsh egret]

nah he was trolling i think

[hasty stone]

@harsh egretyeh hugo said he was playing with that silder like two weeks ago lol

[frail bloom]

So is it true?

[harsh egret]

i think he was messing

[frail bloom]

Have I been played.

[harsh egret]

prob

[frail bloom]

Ohhhhhhmmmmmmm.

I did not bring paper and pencil and what is he doing now

Unc Hugo

[solar cairn]

Praise the Hugo!

[frank turtle]

when are we gonna get the update?

[harsh egret]

we dont know, prob everything at quakecon

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/depressed-tom-and-jerry-done-gif-13982697

That's me

Whoever wants to be Jerry come join me

[harsh egret]

ha, he is lowering dmg now

[frail bloom]

Finally

What is Josh looking at

[hasty stone]

@frank turtlehe wont say lol

[harsh egret]

he isn't allowed to

[frail bloom]

PAUSE THE DAMN VID

oh my god

[delicate grotto]

I’ve never had a crashing issue with TDA… until now… on my UN run with Enhanced Azhrak

Literally on his last phase. He had a quarter of Hp left.

Seriously…

[harsh egret]

oof..

[delicate grotto]

Now I have to redo the mech section, the mech boss and his entire fight.

I’m just gonna use modifiers to skip past all the BS I already cleared. I’m not wasting my time.

[harsh egret]

ye thats sucks

[frail bloom]

FINALLY SOME INFO

That's good Hugo gimme some more

[solar cairn]

How does Hugo play at 60 HZ?

[frail bloom]

It's probably the stream

[harsh egret]

welcome to boomers

[solar cairn]

He had 60 in the game settings

[frail bloom]

Huh

Uuughghghghg

[harsh egret]

how do people think the game audio volume is good

cant even hear the tracks at all almost

[frail bloom]

Idk man

[delicate grotto]

Alright, on his last phase. I’ll do this legit.

[frail bloom]

The collective decision to stop Josh from taking so long

[harsh egret]

someone gave him confirmation that the game sounds good on stream, like what

[frail bloom]

Idk

Can someone ask if he mentioned the weapon swap buff after parrying

On like any chat

I'm watching on tv so I can't

[delicate grotto]

Compared to what it was on launch, it is much, much better. I think it sounds good.

[frail bloom]

He means on stream

[delicate grotto]

Beat Enhanced Azhrak on UN

[frail bloom]

It's really quiet

[delicate grotto]

Ah my bad.

[frail bloom]

Yup

[delicate grotto]

Alright, time to finish my UN run

[frail bloom]

Sweet

Did they reanimate that pinky bite yet

Well my notes are going to be real vacant

I'm looking forward to mowing the lawn

I love when Hugo gets asked a question and he answers in riddles

Classic Hugo

[hasty stone]

lawl

[delicate grotto]

Sweet, completed my 100% UN run

[frail bloom]

Awesome

[delicate grotto]

Took a couple of attempts. Didn’t practice the levels before each run like I did for 2016 or Eternal though

I still think this game is harder than Eternal lol

[harsh egret]

will only get harder with the act 2 and 3 updates to the encounters

[frail bloom]

Already ahead of you

I even gave an example lmao

But I'm abt to leave in 30 min

[harsh egret]

wdym

oh lol i was just answering to Elemental

[frail bloom]

Oh alr

My bad

[harsh egret]

no worries

[frail bloom]

I'm so bored

I only have two pieces of new info

The rest was told like 5 times already

[harsh egret]

lower the expectations for the next one

he already said more bigger things will be announced at QC, so dont expect much this close to it

[hasty stone]

quakecon will prolly show teaser for the DLC

[harsh egret]

imo prolly not but oh well

[hasty stone]

hopefully a master level

or 2...

[frail bloom]

Ye I might as well

[hasty stone]

random AI master level would be nice..

[frail bloom]

I mean as long as it's its own mode

[harsh egret]

about 3 weeks until qc, just gotta wait :d

[frail bloom]

Cuz part of master levels is how well put the monster placements are

Triple shot...

Josh had a stronk

[harsh egret]

ive not seen anyone melee the helltanks

[frail bloom]

Well Hugo is just spamming

[harsh egret]

before*

[frail bloom]

He forgor abt the rocket launcher

Also those tanks are kinda bugged

Sometimes when you parry the projectile doesn't deflect

[harsh egret]

or it deflects but it doesnt kill the tank

[frail bloom]

Ye

Hugo.

Use the rocket launcher.

So you don't aim up like a chud

NOOOO

Alr Imma be gone in 8:00 so if you hear anything useful pls write it down

[solid nacelle]

I like when I deflect a projectile and it destroys the tank but it still fires another shot despite already being blown up

[frail bloom]

It does that?

Hey mechanic for dlc what abt it

I don't think ppl understand that you went to the forge to unlock the ability to get a shield rune, you needed the energy from the forge to be able to use that rune energy

Alr I gotta go keep the energy

[harsh egret]

cyu

[harsh egret]

right... notable stuff from today's stream for those who didnt watch...

• Confirming glory kills will not return. They have the animations ready, and they play-tested the game again with glory kills, but it does not feel good
• DLC will feel like what eternal felt like compared to 2016, "refinement of the base game"
• Nice adjustments coming to the Atlan, will be discussed at a later time
• slowmo slider + blocking while weapon-swapping confirmed (confirmed for the 5th time)
• Much bigger things will be announced at QuakeCon

[delicate grotto]

Blocking while weapon swapping is huge. One of the main things that got me hurt/killed when first playing.

[harsh egret]

def nice yeah

@frail bloom there u go i guess ^

[solid nacelle]

Wonder if they'll fix melee inputs preventing you from doing other things

[fossil geyser]

help the game crashes and keeps loading

[frail bloom]

Welp, stole my thunder

You forgot abt the double tap

Anyways

[frail bloom]

@unkempt dragon

Copied to clipboard

[barren warren]

has pogo martian even mentioned the melee input buffering issues in any of the streams so far

[harsh egret]

Cuz he already mentioned it just yesterday was why

[unkempt dragon]

I watched most of it, was fun

[vernal star]

WHERE IS GYRO AIM

[solid nacelle]

I think Josh made a tiny joke about it on a stream because of something that happened to Hugo but I don't remember him saying anything about it

[barren warren]

fuck

[split gate]

I’m dooming it

I am excited about what they said about the DLC being comparable to how Eternal was like to 2016, holy moly. When I played Eternal it felt like a complete jump and refinement of what 2016 was, it was divine. If we get to experience that again, it’ll be so peak

[terse parcel]

FINALLY !!!!!!

10 hours!!!!!!!

Vagary Champion 500% damage…

50% to him… and little to no ammo

Finally done

[dark thunder]

I can kill an aggadon hunter faster than a tyrant am I good now

[dark thunder]

They should add an option to have glory kills in, just a toggleable option and add a speed slider so it doesn't slow it down too much

[solar cairn]

God, it gives me goosebumps

[barren shell]

ikr

[marble seal]

Pretty sure removing blood punch is unnecessary

Removing glory kills makes more sense than removing blood punch

To me

[lunar spire]

what

blood punch is a DE mechanic... the melee system in TDA is completely different, and built into the core mechanics of the game. you can beat DE without using a single blood punch, because you can weapon switch.. TDA it is essentially blood punch mixed with chainsaw mixed with either flame belch, the sentinel hammer or regular blood punch.. way more variety but IG its just removing blood punch right

its not TAG part 3 so its not what I want

I'm so tired of the same talking point over and over.. its not TAG part 3 please stop comparing DE to TDA because they are SO far removed it isn't even funny anymore

[solar cairn]

I think the melee system would be overloaded then

[lunar spire]

^

[old siren]

I would rather vote for more animations for the melee options. The glory kills were awesome in DOOM 2016 and Eternal because the basic gameplay loop was all about run and gun so it's a breath of fresh air to the player when the Slayer gets up close and personal with the demon and end it's life.

TDA doesn't need separate glory kills, because with the melee options and the shield the Slayer is already up close and personal with the demons. We need more animations for these melee options to make it more interesting.

[lunar spire]

also ^

more options is great. BP is braindead and reductive in comparison to the melee system in TDA. Please don't ask for it to come back. Just learn the system and think of creative things to suggest. asking to bring old stuff into new stuff isn't creative.

That's not to say it isnt great in DE. Its sick and works great with the system, but that is a vacuum.

[marble seal]

Oh yeah true :/

[marble seal]

I honestly don't need a whole explanation
I was just confused and plus I don't even like eternal so idk if I'm exactly comparing it
It's just a question and plus what I'm trying to say is gauntlet is not that op for some people so I thought adding blood punch to it would make gauntlet just as top as other melee weapons

[lunar spire]

oh okay! I see what you mean!

[marble seal]

Exactly now
Wouldn't that be a decent idea or meh?

[lunar spire]

Apologies if I came across as crass and rude, I am very tired of people comparing the game to doom eternal, so sorry if I was a bit harsh on your contribution after misunderstanding.

[marble seal]

Nah it's okay

[lunar spire]

Honestly, I think that the glove fully upgraded is better than BP.

You can spread shock to other demons and it gets really silly with DPS values

[marble seal]

Mmmmmm
I kind of see it (I haven't played dark ages in a long time so I don't remember much from it)

[lunar spire]

I beat it on UN in first week and didn't touch it for a month bc of studies so i feel you there ;;

I'd have to show but ngl I'm washed rn

that month of break sent my fine motor skills and muscle memory into the abyss

[marble seal]

Yeah my muscle memory from dark ages went into the abyss too but I still remember how to parry atleast

[lunar spire]

I remember how to, but my combat skills are sub par from where they used to be

it took 7 runs to beat UN and now I'm washed xD

they also made the game harder from my understanding

[marble seal]

Yeah im thinking about beating Doom The Dark Ages on ultra nightmare since you talking about it😂

But I have other games to finish💔

[marble seal]

Dark Ages be so sad when it comes to enemies and mini bosses

Some had me thinking about my life

[lunar spire]

wdym?

[harsh egret]

I've seen this mentioned alot, u have to keep in mind its not something they can just simply put in the game for the player to toggle. It has to feel good for them to add it. Just like the slowmo slider when he said that "it feels good" and that its ready to come in an update soon. The glory kills don't, because the combat encounters are not designed for it at all. They would have to completely switch focus off of the design philosophy of the game, and also spend lots of time otherwise spent on side content and DLC. Pretty sure id knows what's best 😉

You think you want it but you actually don't. Just classic stuff.

Unless they put alot of time to remake how the combat and encounters work just for those who toggle it lmao.

[maiden onyx]

I'm also imagining the blue and orange flashing in this setting. I can imagine my attention being split in the wrong kind of way with so many enemies

[harsh egret]

I mean they can just keep the purple stuff as it is

[maiden onyx]

I do really like that colour

[harsh egret]

I think they wouldve had it like this if they had glory kills

[maiden onyx]

It's a smooth kind of purple too

[harsh egret]

Ye

[maiden onyx]

• they have pseudo glory kills already in no? I trigger saw animations on mancubi quite often and stomp glory kills on another enemy I don't remember

[solar cairn]

Is there a mod that removes the glory kills animation in DE by any chance?

[harsh egret]

Yes but the game is designed in a way where those feel ok to do here and there if u really want to

But im ngl i see exactly what Hugo means just from those glory kills alone, they are fun and all but gameplay wise they can fuck u over sometimes

If it was more than this then it would get really bad

[tired nimbus]

Sorry to bother you, what’s “BP”?

[harsh egret]

I just love those people who just called Hugo a liar when he said they have the glory kill animations "ready".

[lunar spire]

blood punch :)

[harsh egret]

I can easily understand why from a developer perspective it's not feasible to do all this work now, but maybe not everyone does, idk.

Either way I've seen aloot of people come to love the new system, so i think its fine

[wheat sigil]

just to play devil's advocate
if the gk animations we have now feel ok, why not add a larger variety of the same length? then you'd have proper glory kills, while it not being too interruptive

[harsh egret]

Yeah I've talked about this before actually, i dont disagree

[tired nimbus]

Alright thanks, also the glove can spread shock to demons?

[wheat sigil]

yes

[lunar spire]

Ye

[harsh egret]

They could add maybe more, and from different angles

But that may also be a design choice so that you dont do it too often lol

[lunar spire]

As long as they don't increase in frequency

[wheat sigil]

that wouldn't be an increase in frequency in any way, only variety

[lunar spire]

I use them as a method to avoid damage and to break the action very briefly but if it's too often, demons can reposition

[harsh egret]

If u could do it from any angle then maybe it could be too frequent i guess, which is why it might be a design choice to have them only from the back and front. Sorta purposely less convenient.

[lunar spire]

Ok cool then I'm down

Just need a different button

Have it interact differently than standard glory strikes

Falter enemies around after glory kills to spread fear after building enough momentum or something like that, create a huge opening

Really make it impactful, make it feel like the demons truly fear you with their reactions

Having them attack less frequently wouldn't feel like enough of a noticeable buff for the power fantasy of being "the only man hell fears"

It's gotta be something sick. Like imagine making combos based on kills of heavy demons strung without being hit giving you an even bigger advantage. Raises the skill ceiling too

[slow zodiac]

Honestly I don't even feel like the ones we have now feel good in many cases. I often trigger them unintentionally with the shield charge and it screws me up sometimes.
The most notable example would be the fight near the end of the belly of the beast when a baron spawns right before you kill a mancubus. I always shield charge that mancubus and accidentally get a glory kill on him, and during that the baron runs up to me and hits me right after the animation ends

This kind of thing doesn't happen that often because you don't see glory kills that often. But if you saw them frequently this would become really frustrating

[wheat sigil]

i can't really say i trigger them on accident since you have to jump and then shield dasg

and like, why would you jump lol