the-dark-ages

[harsh egret]

@frail bloom ^

[left badge]

For what it is, I didn't mind the bfc but the top right one hits

[harsh egret]

yh according to Colin Geller who made the concept, it would collapse a micro black hole which triggered the weapon to fire

fuck man 😭

[left badge]

Oh thats awesome

Now that we are on about the guns (respectfully) who actually used the cycler?

[harsh egret]

i like the bfc but i miss the half second charge time when u shoot it, it feels so good

[left badge]

I suppose the half second charge became the time to reload the gun

[harsh egret]

alot of ppl use the cycler lol wdym

[left badge]

I actually didn't, it was the gun I used the least and upgraded last

[harsh egret]

the cycler is insanely good

[left badge]

I mean I've tried it but its been a bit situational for me

I cant really explain it but I just didnt use it

[harsh egret]

idk i guess i disagree with that sentiment, i think its just really good in most scenarios

u can ask around, most ppl will say the gun is reeeally good

[left badge]

I can believe it from others that its good, I just never really understood how to use it properly

[harsh egret]

the shock it applies makes it insane

[left badge]

It was somewhat outshined for me by guns like the ssg, impaler and chainshot because they are big one shot firing guns

[frail bloom]

We've been robbed

[left badge]

I mean that I can get by because funny enough I used the Power Gauntlet for most of my U.N run until I got the rune, such a good one

[frail bloom]

I want black hole bfg

[harsh egret]

lmfao

[left badge]

Next game maybe....???

I'm kidding but maybe give it another 5 years you never know

[frail bloom]

Hmmmm

[harsh egret]

when they do some actual sci-fi space doom, that would be cool ngl

[frail bloom]

What would they do for the next game?

[frail bloom]

2016

And then they changed courses from there

[harsh egret]

idk more focus on "space"

[left badge]

I don't think they can do another game, Eternal's 2nd DLC has him in the tomb again like the start of 2016. Maybe it could be something between 2016 and eternal?

[maiden onyx]

Demons but from the hell equivalent of Australia

[harsh egret]

and then u get black hole bfg which was some weapon ppl made to use for intergallactic wars and shit

[frail bloom]

Well they can

[harsh egret]

cooking cooking

[frail bloom]

Discovery of nekravol, civik war, slayer rampage through hell

Ok switch those two

[left badge]

Are you talking about the one at the end of TDA?

[frail bloom]

Damn stroke

[left badge]

That could be the dlc

[maiden onyx]

I could really see a "what if" spin off story where some event changes in the story that leads us down a completely new chain of events

Not for dtda but another game

[frail bloom]

Ok I fixed it

[graceful lion]

tag 2 seems to be the end of his story by tag 2's description on steam, and its also implied he lost his powers in the cutscene, visually tho, not by words

[frail bloom]

We're predicting that he hunts the high council of Hell

[graceful lion]

because since he is a primeval, that killed another primeval, aka davoth, all parts of davoth had to die aswell, including the part inside doomguy

[left badge]

Could maybe see the priests like in the eternal and the flashbacks. Maybe a flashback level before the slayer endured the divinity machine?

[left badge]

Oh right!

[frail bloom]

Would be awesome but idk abt that happening

[maiden onyx]

og doomguy experience in full modern 3D sounds amazing

[harsh egret]

i hope the dlc will have some variation in the hell levels cuz if we get just plain normal hell for like 5-10+hrs then what

[frail bloom]

They should've done that earlier but we'll see

[frail bloom]

I know right . I'd like maybe a purple Hell

Have we had any purple levels besides Urdak

[harsh egret]

need more cosmic realm

[maiden onyx]

purple hell?

would this purple happen to be in the sky?

[frail bloom]

Like everywhere

[harsh egret]

we gotta go finish off the witch no?

take me to cosmic realm to finish off the witch

[left badge]

Level colours based on the skulls that you found in TDA 2016 and Eternal trilogy XD

[maiden onyx]

Hugo Martin can finally put purple sludge in the sky 🙏

[frail bloom]

So what would be the bosses? Maybe one or two council members and the witch?

[left badge]

That could work yeah

[frail bloom]

Bc obviously they can't do 6 bosses

[harsh egret]

ye the witch would also need a better fight than what we got in the base game

like a proper boss fight, smth crazy

[frail bloom]

But 3 seems like a lot too.

Bc they only have 4 in the base game

[maiden onyx]

Do you think we'll get led to the coffining of doomguy in the final dlc?

[left badge]

I don't mind the amount of boss fights as long as there is variation in their movements/fighting pattern

[frail bloom]

Nope

[harsh egret]

witch + one council member sounds right

[frail bloom]

Ye I can see that

So then the next game is murdering all of them

[harsh egret]

i just hope its 8 lvls

i think 8 lvls sounds just right for me

[left badge]

8 seems good yeah

[frail bloom]

Eh Hugo laughed at the idea of 11

[harsh egret]

not too much, not too little

yeah 11 is a bit too much for a dlc maybe

[frail bloom]

Maybe 6 or 7 if we're lowballing

[left badge]

Unless they pulled off what they did for the base game with chapter 21 and 22 with him running away with the witch? 🙌🙏

[harsh egret]

ye im just hoping for 8 since it sounds doable to me, but its also not too much imo

[left badge]

11 DLC levels on U.N could be chaos

[frail bloom]

Hmmm hopefully, but we can tell how much depending on what they show for quakecon

[harsh egret]

we just need more cosmic realm thats all i know

[frail bloom]

Hopefully not december like some are predicting

I need FM to perfect their craft

Give them time

[harsh egret]

my prediction after i finished the game was mid february

[maiden onyx]

Did they make another dlc time limit promise this time, or do they have unlimited time this time round?

[left badge]

You really like the cosmic realm huh? I don't blame you I loved those levels

[harsh egret]

cosmic realm is great

[left badge]

I'm pretty sure they don't have a limit

[frail bloom]

Well we can also get another cosmic realm song

[harsh egret]

nah

[maiden onyx]

So siked

[frail bloom]

That's one of the reasons

[harsh egret]

true

[frail bloom]

And after feedback, espedially Horde, they might improve on it

We gonna get some freaky spooky banger

[harsh egret]

so cuz of all of this i wouldnt be surprised if they have nothing for dlc for qc or gamescom (they showed tag1 first at gamescom 2020 for reference)

[frail bloom]

When did they show off dlc 1

[left badge]

When is quakecon again this year I lowkey forgot

[frail bloom]

How long after the release of eternal

[frail bloom]

August 7th-10th

[harsh egret]

they are cooking content updates for QC and also nightdive will have something to show off at quakecon so its gonna be great

[left badge]

Awesome, thanks

[harsh egret]

gamescom 2020 which was around late august as well

[frail bloom]

Oh

Hmm what abt a little teaser

[left badge]

I don't see the dlc being a december release, to me its more October to late November

[left badge]

Maybe

[harsh egret]

ye behind closed doors to torture us

[frail bloom]

[left badge]

Damn

[harsh egret]

and then the atendees will go around describing what they saw but we cant see it ourselves

[frail bloom]

Bro that's less than how much they worked on tag 1

[harsh egret]

like fuck man

[frail bloom]

This dlc requires much more work

[left badge]

Oh right

[harsh egret]

and tag1+2 were arguably rushed

they NEEDED more time to cook

[frail bloom]

Since Hugo confirmed a new ai I can predict a teaser, maybe 5 seconds, of it doing smt

I don't really see a behind closed doors thing

[harsh egret]

if its not coming anytime soon i almost dont wanna see it yet

[frail bloom]

Huh

Well when can they show it off

[harsh egret]

i would get hyped and then they dont announce any release date and then its obvious its out next year

idk, maybe game awards

[frail bloom]

When's that again

[harsh egret]

december 11

[frail bloom]

[harsh egret]

kinda lines up well with an early 2026 release

[frail bloom]

I need that dlc

[harsh egret]

same dw

[frail bloom]

I'll manage

[harsh egret]

theres great things coming for qc so we chilling

[frail bloom]

Ye

[harsh egret]

i hope they cooking master levels to release on a regular basis

[frail bloom]

I'll wait a year but I want them to really hit home base this time

Gimme like 2 original enemies

[harsh egret]

if we just get only khalim master level for QC then im fuming

like why tease that only

fuck

[frail bloom]

What is it

[harsh egret]

no i just hope we get more than just khalim master level xd

the teasers on socials are worrying me is all

[frail bloom]

See I want it to be 3 too, but they only had like 2 and a half months to work on supposedly "3"

[harsh egret]

in my head 3 isnt too much

[frail bloom]

They took like several months for one or two master levels

[harsh egret]

but idk how they structure their teams

[frail bloom]

Remember SGN

Took 8 months

Ofc it was during covid

[harsh egret]

yh but that was during dlc development and like u said during covid

[frail bloom]

I just don't have anything to compare to

[harsh egret]

its the same now but they have a bigger team now

and no covid

and less rushing for dlc

[frail bloom]

If they release 3, it gives an idea of how much faster they work

If not, we're in for it

[vivid flicker]

should i try ultra nightmare after i finish ultra violence?

[frail bloom]

No

Go in order

[harsh egret]

pandemonium or nightmare prob

i started on nightmare, did nightmare with sliders after that, and i wanna start pandemonium and UN when the qc update hits hopefully with act2/3 updates and other balance stuff

[frail bloom]

Man I wanna see how it feels to block while switching

[harsh egret]

that too

and slowmo reduction

[frail bloom]

Hugo got some good suggestions last time so I wanna see what he tested out coming next thursday

[frail bloom]

Honestly I don't see myself doing no slo mo, I just might reduce it a bit

I need a breather for that ahzrak fight

[harsh egret]

yeah im thinking the same thing, might not even change it if i dont like it

[lunar spire]

I'm more worried about fighting barons without it. Those parries are gonna be tough

[frail bloom]

Ye you might just reduce it a bit not like turn it off

I wonder if there's two sliders for melee and parrying

That would be good

[lunar spire]

agreed

[white vortex]

hello

[frank turtle]

yo

[white vortex]

Do any of you speak Spanish?

[umbral steppe]

A little bit

But I have to improve my vocabulary😅

[sonic turret]

Midnight does.

[pseudo bone]

In DOOM THE DARK AGES, is it possible to complete a challenge and obtain skins for the Executioner by using modifiers?

[dreamy kiln]

The executioner is only obtained by buying the dark ages controllers

[maiden onyx]

where is the library?

I speak a bit, but no where near fluent

[white vortex]

Oh don't worry, I speak English too, but I still have mistakes.

but thanks

[lament swan]

actually yes

pq preguntas?

[white vortex]

Me es mas comodo el escrivier en español ya q en ingle todavi suelo tener errore de gramatica

😅

[lament swan]

ah ok xd

pero necesitas algo?

[white vortex]

Ja

[white vortex]

Por el momento no pero muchas gracias por tu amabilidad

[pseudo bone]

?

[dreamy kiln]

The executioner skin needs you to buy a limited edition controller to get it

You can't do challenges or anything to get it normally

[fleet spruce]

Yeah, Doom 64 style hell will be really appreciated.

[uneven mortar]

i hope it doesnt come out this year

[uneven mortar]

i REALLLLLY hope theyre cooking Quake 1+2 with the Call Of The Void mod

[graceful lion]

call of the void?

only time i heard of that was with a subnautica mod

which is called just that

[uneven mortar]

Look it up, it's an upcoming quake 2 mod that looks amazing

It meshes elements from both games, there are cyber shamblers and stuff

[merry sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/625082996327841804/1394033995406245938/201FCE1.JPG?ex=687556d4&is=68740554&hm=f6e65fdf370d0e9994bea3df261df5c865e8111b4c2ed108b6b3a560d12bef9a&

@west bloom @left badge ultra nightmare secured 💪

god i love the accelerator

[harsh egret]

for sure

[spare folio]

yo are any master levels out yet

[uneven mortar]

No, ask again 7th august

[graceful lion]

hno

yeah id expect new content in august, this year might be for patches or new features many people want

[harsh egret]

they will support the game for over a year from what i heard

[spare folio]

whats happening on 7th august

[harsh egret]

after its release i mean

[uneven mortar]

Quakecon

[spare folio]

ah

[harsh egret]

quakecon where they will announce a big update

[spare folio]

all i know is tennocon in 5 days 😍😍😍😍

[spare folio]

itll probably be dlc announcement and master levels before the dlc comes out announcement imo

[harsh egret]

imo i wouldnt be surprised if they dont show any dlc stuff just yet

[uneven mortar]

Yeah i reckon they'll do a little sting teaser

[harsh egret]

if its one dlc like we think it might be then it will take them longer than tag 1

quite a bit longer than tag 1

[uneven mortar]

Maybe they'll reveal the dlc title

[harsh egret]

maybe

any predictions for that?

[uneven mortar]

Ooh

[graceful lion]

if we want a good dlc, id say early/mid 26

[harsh egret]

my prediction was mid february like 2 months ago

[uneven mortar]

Doom: The Dark Ages: Warpath

[harsh egret]

[uneven mortar]

The Old Kings

[harsh egret]

im tryina come up with smth good lol i cant

[uneven mortar]

Honestly I hope the DLC is ages away because I'm more interested in horde mode

[harsh egret]

and master levels

[uneven mortar]

Yeah

[harsh egret]

god i hope its not just khalim they release

khalim is like one of my least favourite levels xd

[uneven mortar]

That would be a bit of a bummer but at least we'd know what to expect

[harsh egret]

unless they do smth more creative with master levels now

they did mention smth about player freedom

[uneven mortar]

I hope there's a way to play through the master levels as a mini campaign

[harsh egret]

in what sense i have no idea

but ye master levels are pretty much set in stone for quakecon

[graceful lion]

know what would be really insane but something probably like years into the game's lifespan?, making your own master levels

[harsh egret]

snapmap 2.0?

[uneven mortar]

That would be cool

Tbh I feel very sad Eternal didn't get great post-launch support :( that game deserved better

Multiplayer crap and skins sucking up what could have been incredible replay value

[harsh egret]

the battlepass stuff was kinda bad

never cared for the mp either

[analog blade]

im looking forward to buying doom the dark ages but ive been wondering if its true that the gameplay is slow and boring. Is this fr or just haters?

[frail bloom]

No it's not slow

You have a sprint and have to manage a lot of things

Honestly no one calls it slow anymore

[white vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-cacodemon-demon-cute-gif-7070685866677885551

[stark quiver]

[merry sapphire]

update 6.66 with horde mode and battlemode 2.0 was sick though

we even got a brand new playable demon

also the skins are really cool

the game got amazing post launch support compared to other AAA singleplayer games

not to mention mod support

ALSO not to mention the amount of qql stuff we got, like the race car hud people have been asking for

[frail bloom]

@analog blade
Here's my message btw incase you didn't see

[analog blade]

alr thanks im buying rn

[shell gull]

is it just me or is the maxed out turret dropping armour

[frail bloom]

Hmmm lemme test that out

[frail bloom]

Yes it does

I tested it on a whiplash

It's not much tho

[shell gull]

i was playing forsaken plains with resource values set to min

and got to the enocunter after u get the purple key with the whiplash and pinky and all that

use the turret and got to max nearly instantly

[frail bloom]

Uhhh

Hmmmm

Did you burn a demon before hand?

With like flail or combat

[frail bloom]

Bruh

[left badge]

Good to see mate. Proud of you

[shell gull]

maybe i think

was fighting azarack and hit him with the flail while turret was going off

when did lvl mods start coming out for eternal?

[mint wyvern]

yes[

[west bloom]

WWWW

good job man

[spark elm]

Barely ever had problems with this game, apparently game just froze trying to fly through the dragons den on aratum

[foggy dust]

this is fireeee but im jealous

maybe i should just play on 100% speed too instead of 130% and just get over it...

[spark elm]

Dodging this stupid thing, the dodging doesn’t work anyway. Assault mode and dodge are the same button anyway? So it’s impossible… got it

[foggy dust]

i wish i could experience it for first time like you man

new-doom trilogy has no misses how do they do that

[spark elm]

So this thing is gonna continue to torture me… replaying aratum. How does the dodging work again?

[foggy dust]

no i mean i completed it 3 times already and tried many many attempts on ultra nightmare too 😁 glad your having fun

[spark elm]

I’ll never 100% aratum because of this stupid thing

so how tf does dragon dodging work again? I know it says LT but that’s for assault mode!

[foggy dust]

did you beat 2016 and eternal?

[spark elm]

Wait I’m extremely dumb

[foggy dust]

just press jump button

oh man you'll have a lot of fun, just make sure to remember that basically your entire first playthrough of eternal is a one big tutorial, because you truly start to enjoy it on your second/third playthrough

oh man 2020-2021 was a great period for doom eternal. you just HAD to be here

sure thing, im not very active on discord tho

[minor plinth]

Dark ages is tied with eternal for best shooter ever for me (I've only played doom)

The shield saw is just the best thing of all time

[foggy dust]

doom eternal is truly the best fps of all time

dead serious

[minor plinth]

I dont think I ever want to try another shooter honestly

[foggy dust]

we need new quake

[knotty saffron]

sorry to join in mid conversation i think doom eternal is one of the more cartoonie dooms

[foggy dust]

it is!

[knotty saffron]

true

[minor plinth]

Well that's objectively correct lol

[knotty saffron]

my favorite doom game is doom 2016

[minor plinth]

Guess what

[foggy dust]

great one

[minor plinth]

My least favorite out of the new games, BUT I'm replaying it!

[foggy dust]

i love it

[minor plinth]

There are 2 doom movies

[knotty saffron]

its amazing

[foggy dust]

doom 2016 has no misses in soundtrack imo, there's no track that i was tired of

[minor plinth]

Yeah, one is abysmal trash and the other one is so bad it's good

Guess you are a fake fan!!

[foggy dust]

actually... eternal probably doesn't have ones too it's just me playing it for so long i got tired of it😭🚬

[knotty saffron]

the soundtrack in doom 2016 was amazing, mick gordan really did well

[minor plinth]

I wish there is a doom movie similar to the new MK

[minor plinth]

Hot take, every doom game had peak music

[foggy dust]

it's not hot take at all, every doom game had amazing soundtrack

[minor plinth]

I always see people bitching about how TDA's soundtrack isn't from Gordon

And how it's soooooo bad compared to him

[foggy dust]

Dark Ages wasn't as great on first listen but now im starting to truly appreciate it

[minor plinth]

Unchained Predator is a top 3 track for me rn

[knotty saffron]

very relatable

[foggy dust]

steel beyond the grave (gamerip extended version) is a blast

and into the void man, INTO THE VOID!!!

[minor plinth]

When the shadows first lengthened

[foggy dust]

i love it

[minor plinth]

Same

[knotty saffron]

how long did it take you guys to beat tda?

[minor plinth]

What kind of metal is doom?? Never really listened to metal but I love the doom soundtrack

[foggy dust]

i like it too it just always bugs me when the main riffs repeats for the second time it just cuts off for no reason

[minor plinth]

Hmm

[foggy dust]

idk, long enough to enjoy it

[minor plinth]

About 18 hours I'd say

[knotty saffron]

it took me four days to beat it

[minor plinth]

Pretty complete playthrough

[knotty saffron]

same

[minor plinth]

Four days...

[knotty saffron]

yup

[minor plinth]

Well ermmmmm surely you don't mean 4 x 24 hours

[knotty saffron]

uh

👍

sure

[minor plinth]

Ahhh

I'm glad I found some cool doom stuff to 3d print

[knotty saffron]

what did you find

i wish i could cosplay doomslayer tbh

doom 2016 praetor suit is my favorite

[minor plinth]

Mainly just demons

[knotty saffron]

cool

[minor plinth]

I could, but I'm skinny af

[knotty saffron]

what demons

[knotty saffron]

doesnt matter unless your under the suit

or unless your cosplaying tda or eternal

[minor plinth]

Kinda does

[knotty saffron]

how so

[minor plinth]

Even the 2016 suit would look bad

(PS that's my least favorite suit)

[knotty saffron]

i take no offense lol

[minor plinth]

Caco, baron of hell

Even the spider-mastermind

[knotty saffron]

spider mastermind baren of hell and cacodemon are amazing choices

whats your favorite demon?

[minor plinth]

To fight or looks wise

[knotty saffron]

both great questions, but go with looks first

[minor plinth]

I really like the pain elementals

[knotty saffron]

i hate those things with a passion in my heart

(to fight them)

[minor plinth]

Fair enough

Really love their design

[knotty saffron]

it is very nice

now whats your favorite to fight?

[minor plinth]

What game :)

[knotty saffron]

all of modern doom

[minor plinth]

Ahhh

[knotty saffron]

(2016, eternal, tda)

[minor plinth]

The aggressive enemies are always fun, so I'd say hell knights and barons

[knotty saffron]

fair choice

[minor plinth]

What about you

[knotty saffron]

my favorite for the looks are probably pinkys

the sleek design is nice

[minor plinth]

Tda pinky?

They're veryyy different

[knotty saffron]

nah prolly eternal

and my favorite to fight is the cyberdemons

2016, eternal, and tda

they mastered it

[minor plinth]

Ohh I forgot he's in 2016

[knotty saffron]

yup

well im gonna go eat

[minor plinth]

I'm on argent tower rn

[minor plinth]

Byee

[knotty saffron]

best soundtrack

bfg division is amazing

[minor plinth]

A bit overrated imo

[knotty saffron]

thats fair i can get why

well ill cya later

[minor plinth]

I'm gonna go sleep

[knotty saffron]

alr

gn

[lunar spire]

eternal and 2016 are argent metal, the dark ages soundtrack is a mix of thrash and Finishing Move said they took inspiration from thall metal bands but I don't see a ton of influence from it. you would probably enjoy instrumental thall.

[minor plinth]

Argent metal

[lunar spire]

yes

[minor plinth]

Is this a joke

[lunar spire]

no

It is a genre born from the doom soundtracks

[minor plinth]

Crazy

So unless I want to listen to doom I should look for intrusmental thall

[lunar spire]

which doom soundtrack did you like the most

the dark ages, eternal, 2016, etc

[knotty saffron]

2016

[minor plinth]

Uhhhh

Probably eternal

[lunar spire]

Argent metal is probably what your vibe is

Though thall is fun and very brutal too

[nova spear]

Finally with this trophy fixed I got the plat

This is the easiest Plat out of all the Doom games

Alongside doom 64

[hasty stone]

Yeah it was easy to do

[rare wolf]

does anyone know the specific values that the dark ages death protection works at? I'm trying to make an in depth video about how doing and recieving damage works in TDA but I can't find anywhere that says exactly how the death protection works

I know it puts you at 5hp if you take a large amount of burst damage, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't do that if you're already below a certain health threshold right?

[lunar spire]

I believe it is every minute that you can enter the at deaths' door mechanic

[rare wolf]

oh interesting, so not something to do with how much health you had before hand

I appreciate it, I had the wrong impression from my playthroughs

[lunar spire]

That's what I've heard, but I'm sure that there is more to the mechanic than just death protection

This is gonna sound kinda pompous but I haven't really died a whole lot of times in TDA, so I am not familiar with the systems to protect you from it

[rare wolf]

I die a lot less on smaller levels where my computer can run consistently. Laptop 3070 frame drops have ended a few fights from messing up timing

[lunar spire]

Ahh, yeah having a laptop that overheats easy would make that tough

I run it on a 3050 but its a self build desktop

[rare wolf]

I already have thermal issues that don't help much. I have to manually crank the fans to max or else my gpu shuts itself off

[lunar spire]

jeez. how much did you spend on it?

[rare wolf]

800

[lunar spire]

I see I see

[rare wolf]

I use it too much to be able to afford to send it to RMA, and it still works like 90% fine so

I just chalk it up to MSI shit being MSI shit

[minor plinth]

so just doom

[lunar spire]

Literally just look it up on youtube

there's independent tracks from the doom series on YT, and you can explore to your heart's content

[rare wolf]

just tested it, it is timer based. I was at 20 hp, got set down to 5 after a hit

[lunar spire]

Blood of your Enemies is a good one that I just found

Tho it does sound like they use an emulator instead of actual instruments

[lunar spire]

sick, good to know!

[rare wolf]

I'm working on a series of vids compiling all the niche combat knowledge the community has gathered so far, since as of now you have to watch like 20 different videos from 3 different channels just to understand the full scope of a single topic

[lunar spire]

Ah gotcha gotcha

Sounds like something very good for the community :)

[rare wolf]

that's what I'm hoping for

I got so tired of having to search for 20 minutes just to understand a mechanic that I figured it was needed

[lunar spire]

Just don't miss the funny strat of turning around when your shield breaks to gain DR

[rare wolf]

I'm gonna break them down into smaller videos at first and then upload it as one big advanced guide

[rare wolf]

yep, I talk about that right before death protection

[lunar spire]

Sick. Its so funny that its all you gotta do for it

[rare wolf]

I'm doing an entire video on how to min max doing and recieving damage to start the advanced combat guide

[lunar spire]

in your research, what is the highest DPS weapon combo in the game rn

[rare wolf]

how falters work, damage reduction, death protection, de limbing

[rare wolf]

not sure yet, still working on it

[lunar spire]

I've got my money on impaler or ravager

[rare wolf]

right now I really like going from a powered impaler to the SSG since you can swap off the impaler really fast

swapping in this game is based on reload time, so going from the impaler to basically anything else is guaranteed free money

[lunar spire]

Mhmm!

[rare wolf]

if you can time it with a parry, I think chainshot or powered rocket would do better especially at range but that's more situational

[lunar spire]

I just wonder if maining impaler is objectively more powerful (it feels like it is)

[minor plinth]

very nice of you

[rare wolf]

I think the headshot potential makes it hard to beat. it one shots hell knights for crying out loud

with 0 wind up time

[lunar spire]

yeah its very strong

I think what makes it contend for the highest is its very fast reload.

[rare wolf]

I'll probably talk about weapons specifically in it's own vid, this one I'm working on now is more about how to create openings for damage with falters and shield stuns

[lunar spire]

Something I learned when going in depth about DPS rotations in destiny, is that reloads are the #1 killer of all DPS

so when you have something that can deal precision, empowered, and has infinite ammo? it is kinda too good to be true

[rare wolf]

that's why the SSG is the worst gun to start with in a combo unless you have a hotswap queued from mantling

[lunar spire]

Oh interesting, did not know mantling provided one.

ngl I beat UN first week, then barely touched it on my 100% clear

[rare wolf]

yeah if you climb a ledge, you can shoot the SSG and ignore the reload animation

[lunar spire]

after my clear *

so most of these tech things I just never learned

[rare wolf]

I'm working on getting through my pandemonium run. I'm not great at staying consistent and I'm struggling with keeping my positioning and timing on point

I understand the mechanics really well, I just gotta get my fingers to catch up

[lunar spire]

I really need the master levels to be nuts for me to want to keep grinding it

[rare wolf]

do you have a slow mo mod installed?

[lunar spire]

I do not

I played on 110 speed, 75% outgoing damage

[rare wolf]

I think the next video I'm gonna do is a modding tutorial. That's something else that I don't see on youtube in high quality

[lunar spire]

I would love that

[minor plinth]

how do you mod the dark ages?

[rare wolf]

it's super easy but I feel like most people see the nexus mod page and just go "nah not worth it"

[minor plinth]

ive only modded minecraft :D

[rare wolf]

download the mod and insert it into the game folder on your system

[minor plinth]

oh

[rare wolf]

most mods come with instructions but some are more clear than others

[minor plinth]

I have it on gamepass btw

[rare wolf]

should still work as long as you're on pc

[minor plinth]

thought so, sounds simple enough

[rare wolf]

I thnk there's a slightly different method tho

lemme check rq

same method, it's just gonna be located under xbox games instead of steamapps

[minor plinth]

what mods are there?

[rare wolf]

it's criminal this server doesn't have VC, I want to show you the modded slo mo so bad lmao

[lunar spire]

I would loooooove a vc

[rare wolf]

mostly shaders and slow mo mods as far as I've seen

[lunar spire]

do you have a discord for your channel?

[rare wolf]

some stuff to unlock console commands but not much the average player would have fun with. I love the Kaibz advanced optoins mod

[minor plinth]

to remove the slowmo right?

[rare wolf]

not yet, but I might at some point

[rare wolf]

or increase it if you want, but yes

[lunar spire]

That's how you access the old one fighrt without being in the atlan yeah?

fight *

[rare wolf]

idk I've never heard of that

I'll have to check it out

[lunar spire]

I've seen it a few times. I really wanna do it

[minor plinth]

i see

[rare wolf]

I'm gonna make a reddit post rn asking what the communities favorite mods are so I have a few to cover in my vid

[minor plinth]

I really loved TDA, but theres just nothing to do imo

[lunar spire]

do ultra nightmare

:)

[minor plinth]

ive never been interested in ultra nightmare

[lunar spire]

y not

[minor plinth]

and me have anger issues so no good idea

[lunar spire]

ahhh

[rare wolf]

I've been going back and just speed running the more open levels. ignoring the secrets on siege part 1, ancestral forge, and belly of the beast goes hard

[minor plinth]

because I know how hard it is, since ive played them all on nightmare. its just the same but I know ill get insanely frustrated

[rare wolf]

try pandemonium, it's diet ultra nightmare

[minor plinth]

fair enough

[lunar spire]

This ^

[minor plinth]

maybe, Im grinding some stuff on eternal and im also replaying 2016 rn

[lunar spire]

I cant do 2016 anymore

[rare wolf]

playing eternal and TDA made me hate 2016

[minor plinth]

although 2016 is a bit... Its not my favorite

[rare wolf]

it's so slow. even doom I and II were faster than 2016

[minor plinth]

I played 2016 after eternal, thats my issue. Thats why I want to replay it but ehhhh

[rare wolf]

just because you can swap weapons fast doesn't make it a fast paced game. you're sluggish af

[lunar spire]

is there modding to make it faster

[minor plinth]

I wish you could swap the weapons in dark ages as fast as in 2016

[rare wolf]

maybe but I don't care enough to try. if I want to play eternal style movement I'll just play doom eternal. it's literally 2016++

[lunar spire]

Better yet.....

I'd love to see the doom 2016 campaign in doom eternal's mod engine

[minor plinth]

well my doom ego says I MUST've played them all on nightmare so im that with 2016

although the game felt a little bit unfair at the earlier levels

[rare wolf]

I don't, I think the damage loop with shield and melee combos is way more fun. I don't want my maximum damage output to be limited to how fast I can click buttons to switch guns. it makes each weapon lose its identity as they all just become a form of burst damage in your clicking loop

in the classics you had to choose each weapon based on it's unique functions, and I like how they brought that back to the forefront in TDA

in a more advanced and modern way

[lunar spire]

This is something I have low key been too scared to say for a while, because I knew I'd get cooked for it. I hated the weapon swap system in eternal because nothing felt special.

[minor plinth]

I dont want it to become a quick swapping game, but sometimes in your combo. Another gun just takes too long to pull out for even better combos you know

[rare wolf]

don't worry, I talk about it in my review dropping tomorrow 😉

[minor plinth]

Ive felt stuck at using a gun for a little bit too long sometimes

[lunar spire]

[rare wolf]

start working melee strikes and executions into your weapon swaps. it locks your shield, but I believe you can still do other actions while you swap guns

at least executions/glory kills for sure do

[lunar spire]

and you have a ton more systems to work with while using the melee system too

[minor plinth]

so during a glory kill I can do a quick swap

or right after

[rare wolf]

you can swap to another weapon and then glory kill, then when it's done you'll have the gun

[minor plinth]

oh I see

thats really good to know, thanks

[lunar spire]

kick storing, melee charge storing, weapon specific gimmicks, its so much fun

[rare wolf]

they're working on fixing not being able to use your shield when swapping, or at least that's what I've heard from one video somewhere

[minor plinth]

kick storing?

[lunar spire]

whereas I just kinda felt like I had to play optimally in DE or I'd just get stomped

[rare wolf]

the final strike in your melee combo is a stronger kick, but the game has a really long window where it considers that attack to be the "end" of a combo

so you can hit twice on a demon, glory kill them, shoot a bit, and then still have the thrid powerful kick to damage another heavy demon

[minor plinth]

the only gripe Ive had with TDA personally is that I had no use for some weapons. The Impaler, chainshot and rocket launcher felt so similar I usually only used the impaler and the shield for all the fodder

[minor plinth]

oh yeah ive done that on accident then

except, I just starting using the dreadmace lol

[lunar spire]

I get your point, but disagree on one point. Every weapon has something it does better than everything else, its just that some weapons cough cough impaler are so good that few things rival it or can even be on the same playing field

[rare wolf]

each gun shines in a different scenario. The impaler is good for enemies you're hitting shield combos on, but anything that's throwing a lot of parryable attacks and/or has armor you want to use the chainshot

[lunar spire]

^

[rare wolf]

the cycler is good for shooting long range at barrels to kill those perched up mancubussies

[lunar spire]

I think its good for maxing DPS honestly

[rare wolf]

the skull crushers are also great at hitting barrels if your aim is doodoo

[lunar spire]

applying shock is pretty nuts

[rare wolf]

I don't like how slow it gets. there's utility in the shock, but I'm playing doom to fight the demons, not afk cookie click them while they stand still

[minor plinth]

that is TRUE, counter argument, shield

[rare wolf]

there's certain times where it's good for getting out of a jam, but I don't use it often other than poking barrels

[minor plinth]

pretty much only used the chainshot against the cyberdemon

[rare wolf]

counter argument, what? the shield combos with 3 different guns in 3 different ways

[lunar spire]

Shield is good but still not rivaling the raw damage output of impaler.

[rare wolf]

all dependant on the arena and enemies you're fighting

[lunar spire]

Also that, yes.

[minor plinth]

I mean the rocket launcher is better than the impaler, against fodder. But I see no reason to use it when I can just throw my shield

[rare wolf]

komodo champion?

armored mancubus?

the friggin vagary

[minor plinth]

him too

[lunar spire]

Ok do you play on controller or mouse and keyboard? That will completely change how I respond to this

[minor plinth]

no

[rare wolf]

chainshot vs armored mancubus is so easy

[minor plinth]

I just used my super shotgun

[lunar spire]

dink

oops your armor is gone teehee

[rare wolf]

first parry empowers the shot that breaks his armor, second one dazes him

[minor plinth]

mouse and keyboard.

[rare wolf]

yeah nah bro you just need to actually try the other guns

[lunar spire]

ok then you have not played with the impaler enough. The RPG is good, I used it a lot in my first run of the game, but then I found how the impaler works and it is easily deserving of the nerf it is getting.

[rare wolf]

if you force yourself to use other things you'll find out the ways that they all shine

[lunar spire]

This too, 100%

My advice is to main one gun until you can clear a room effectively and quickly

[rare wolf]

I didn't use either plasma weapon or skull crusher for my entire first 2 playthroughs and now they're some of my favorite guns after I used them for so long

[lunar spire]

The ONLY one I didn't like was the grenade launcher simply because I don't play in a way that requires me to shoot one thing to kill everything else around me. Everything else is already dead except heavy and super heavy bc I don't like getting pestered by fodder.

[minor plinth]

the impaler was one of my main guns

[rare wolf]

fodder demons are just health and armor packs with teeth

why kill them with the grenade launcher when shield do job just fine

[lunar spire]

Then I am unsure why you liked the RPG more unless you needed the health return from cannibalism (which is fair)

[rare wolf]

or farm armor with the flail or combat shotty

[minor plinth]

in my defense I havent played the game a ton yet

a little more than 24 hours

[lunar spire]

OH

[minor plinth]

I never said that

atleast didnt mean it (no i just didnt say it)

[rare wolf]

that makes a lot more sense

[lunar spire]

Well, that makes so much more sense then. Yeah go play with the sliders and have some fun, and make yourself use other stuff too :)

[rare wolf]

just keep playing around. the impaler is an easy crutch to lean on because it's just so consistently good, but it's not always the best, and often times it straight up just sucks compared to other guns

[minor plinth]

after im done with 2016 and eternal ;)

[lunar spire]

Fair enough haha

[rare wolf]

it really struggles against heavy demons with armor compared to the rockets, ssg, and chainshot

[minor plinth]

I used the ssg, impaler, ravager and chainshot the most

[rare wolf]

Doom the dark ages is like that one food you have to keep eating before it gets really really good

[lunar spire]

Yup! For armored demons, I typically fire one empowered shot, empowered slam, then run off to kill fodder and get another empowered shot and slam up if it didn't break their armor immediately

[rare wolf]

there's like this plateu where it feels like you know everything and then you get slapped in the face with all these weird mechanics

[minor plinth]

I HAVE, a little bit

[lunar spire]

yup. I know where you're talking about too, it really tests your knowledge and applications of the mechanics.

[rare wolf]

there's this weird thing I noticed where as I got better at the game, I actually started to die more because I started putting myself in too aggressive of a position without fully understanding the mechanics, where previously I was cautious relative to my skill

as I learned how much I could get away with, the game also had mechanics in place to smack me back down

[minor plinth]

I dont know why but I mainly died in the easiest encounters

[lunar spire]

I could definitely see that. my first 3 UN deaths were because I didn't adhere to the philosophy of "stand and fight"

[rare wolf]

exactly

[minor plinth]

I felt so dumb

[lunar spire]

It doesn't mean push push push, it means wear down the lines one at a time until you can push in successfully

[minor plinth]

well guys I must apologize because you are clearly 50x better than me in everyway

[lunar spire]

wuh

Its a video game. It has nothing to do with percieved worth. :)

Don't ever let your self worth get impacted by silly pixels on a screen, because it is probably the least important part of life. honestly being good at other skills is arguably not only more beneficial, but also better for your health.

Love yaself nerd

[dreamy kiln]

I'm not

[minor plinth]

never

[minor plinth]

me when im wrong

[lunar spire]

Be gentle and kind with yourself, this is a threat

[minor plinth]

what if no

[lunar spire]

must be tough

[minor plinth]

ohhh

ok then

[lunar spire]

:P

[minor plinth]

I want to buy some dark ages merch nowwww

[lunar spire]

Once I start my first steroid cycle, I'm building a dark ages slayer armor set :)

I am trying to get as close to the slayer's physique as possible to make it as accurate as possible

[minor plinth]

my physique is the opposite of his bro 😭

[lunar spire]

That's okay!

What I am going for is very unhealthy and will have lasting consequences on my health

:)

[minor plinth]

then why bother

[rare wolf]

@lunar spire cool if I dm you my script so far so I can be peer reviewed by a fellow seasoned slayer?

[lunar spire]

absolutely!!

[lunar spire]

Because... Rip and tear

[minor plinth]

ehh

[lunar spire]

I've been lifting for about 4 years now, I have plenty of time before I start the cycle, and I'm not going to be a walking pharmacy. As long as I'm open about it and not advertising that it is a great idea or something, I'm happy with it. I'm also a medical professional, so I have access to resources that will help me do it safely and appropriately. Plus, I actively recommend against steroids for aesthetic purposes because of the downsides it can have. I know them and am willing to risk it for myself, and myself alone.

[minor plinth]

as long as youre happy

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lunar spire]

mhmm!!

[dreamy kiln]

I'm doing a doom lore document, I already had some of my friends look over it

[lunar spire]

nice!!

[marble seal]

All doom the dark ages weapons are great

Just that some of them are worse than the other while still being good

[tired nimbus]

Hey. Sorry to bother you all, I’m on my Nightmare run, which shield relic is the best?

[marble seal]

The lighting one

It's good for stunning enemies

[tranquil moss]

all of them are good but i primarily use the daggers

[marble seal]

Daggers for Damage
Lighting for Stunning

[tired nimbus]

Ah okay thanks you two

[tranquil moss]

turret does good damage too

[tired nimbus]

And which melee should I sue

use*

[tranquil moss]

any is fine but dreadmace if you have it maxed out

[marble seal]

Just fists.

That's what I main personally

[inner mauve]

I can't wait for master levels

[marble seal]

Fists for whatever
Dreadmace is just... eh it's only used for big damage
Flail for aoe

[worldly beacon]

Anybody have a fix when trying to login in to Bethesda.net and it says cnnecting yet nothing happens?
Verified I’m using the correct info, even restarted the game multiple times.

[marble seal]

All I want is endless/horde mode

Not master levels :/

[inner mauve]

My only complaint is that fights end too soon even on nightmare, I need WAY more enemies in the larger arenas

[marble seal]

If they only add master levels
I gotta be depressed

[inner mauve]

I doubt they'll only do one

[marble seal]

Literally doom the dark ages is so close to be addicting

[inner mauve]

Given how much they did with eternal

[marble seal]

Didn't eternal have 2 modes?
Master Levels AND horde mode? I think

[tranquil moss]

eternal also had battlemode but we're ignoring that

[inner mauve]

This is the only FPS game that I've completed, immediately played it again, then immediately played it AGAIN with even higher difficulty

[inner mauve]

Battlemode was... Definitely something different

[marble seal]

Terrible mode

[tranquil moss]

one day you will eventually beat NM max

[tranquil moss]

yeah i only did it for the achievements

[tired nimbus]

Alright thanks

[inner mauve]

Me when I learn that battlemode has achievements:
(Insert gif of person sleeping, followed by gif of person still sleeping)

Nothing can make me touch that mode again

[tranquil moss]

yeah battlemode was the easiest part of getting all achievements

[inner mauve]

Also I'm admittedly not amazing at eternal, I've completed it on nightmare but every time I've tried doing UN I haven't made it past the cultist base

Honestly I prefer TDA, it's definitely easier but I like the quick timing needed on the parries, I usually have it set to a lower winder

[tranquil moss]

cultist base is where most UN runs go to die

it is the hardest part in the entire game

[inner mauve]

Oh I usually couldn't it make past the second level

I just eventually gave up

[tranquil moss]

once past cultist base its usually quite easy

[inner mauve]

Do you think there's a point like that in TDA?

I think once you get the 2nd upgrade for the Impaler, any enemy that you can parry becomes a walk in the park

[tranquil moss]

i dont think there is

[inner mauve]

Only issue is enemies without parryable attacks, I start to run out of ammo

[tranquil moss]

and besides once you reach the parts where you use berserk powerups it becomes trivial

[inner mauve]

I think that's on purpose

And that's pretty far in the run

[tranquil moss]

(this can also be used to melt the final boss if you dont use it in the arena before it)

[inner mauve]

Pardon me?

[tranquil moss]

yeah

you can just grab berserk after finishing the arena before ahzrak and witch

[inner mauve]

It doesn't automatically wear off when entering the room?

[tranquil moss]

and take it with you into the fight

[inner mauve]

That feels like an oversight

[tranquil moss]

no as that berserk specifically only wears off when a combat encounter ends

so if you just never grab it and end the encounter you get infinite berserk for free to use on the boss

[inner mauve]

Ayyyy

That's amazing

[tranquil moss]

oh and berserk gives you infinite bfc so it makes everything trivial

[inner mauve]

Damn

I knew it did infinite dreadmace I didn't realize BFC too

I do think once you get the dreadmace any encounters become way easier

Dreadmace + lobotomy

[tranquil moss]

maxed dreadmace is very powerful against bosses

[inner mauve]

Too powerful ngl

I hope they never nerf it tho

I love my OP bonk stick

[tranquil moss]

pre-nerf skull weapons vs ahzrak

[inner mauve]

Damn I didn't have the game pre-nerf

[tranquil moss]

yeah ahzrak specifically has a resistance to those weapons because it melted him

[inner mauve]

😔

[tranquil moss]

it still melts ahzrak but its slower

[inner mauve]

The slayer gets to Ahzrak's room and all he hears is
https://youtu.be/TFwXbp9bLlY?si=Ii6z5FL4RJdpJ-a-

[sterile sage]

Is there a video of UN 100% clear with max slider?

[lunar spire]

Holy swarm can demolish a cyber demon maxed out. It gets nutty with its damage.

[tired nimbus]

Alright, thanks!

[lunar spire]

Mhm!

Turret is.... Fun. Fissure is good for niche case uses. The lightning rune is okay if you're using AOE to kill like the RPG. But I think holy swarm does the job but better

[cold patio]

used program called Wemod instead of searching for all currencies in doom TDA, now i get to enjoy playing game without looking for them currencies

all upgrades done

[storm peak]

Well I literally belong here.

I take out the forbidden steps

[merry sapphire]

thank You man

[merry sapphire]

🙏 🙏

[merry sapphire]

no need to be Jealous i believe you can do it

[left badge]

Ultra Nightmare is very doable so long as you don't rush through the encounters/jump in the middle of everything. Take each group as it comes not all at once then you can do it

[merry sapphire]

yup. something that really helped me with ultra nightmare run is making a second nightmare savefile and practicing on each level and knowing all the routes and enemy spawn and what upgrades/collectibles are worth gathering and what isn't

[left badge]

Just make sure you know what enemies do what and what guns you plan on using. Oh and make sure the shield is if not the first thing you fully upgrade. Or upgrade it to a good level (around steadfast) then go for the guns (ssg, impaler, chainshot)

[merry sapphire]

once you reach like command station you really dont need to collect anything else if you upgrade the main weapons and runes that you are using since this game isnt about maxing everything out like eternal

i beat the entirety of ultranightmare with literally only the upgraded impaler

[left badge]

Yeah the sad thing is I know where most of the rubies and wraithstones are just off by heart now, even the ones locked behind the wolves I know where they all are 😂

[merry sapphire]

and the accelerator for bossfights

[merry sapphire]

same LMAO. played the levels too many times

[left badge]

See that's what I did too. I just collected every last resource up until I had the Shield, SSG, Impaler, Rocket and Chainshot upgraded, still having loads of gold and rubies spare to max out the Dreadmace from the moment you get it.

[merry sapphire]

also the game gives you an excess of rubies and gold so if you feel that an encounter for a ruby or gold isnt worth risking then its not worth risking

[left badge]

Oh yeah don't forget about the mission challenges too! They give gold and rubies and they are very easy to do

[merry sapphire]

once i got the dreadmace i maxed that shi out instantly. its so strong its kinda insane. especially when combined with groundfissure since groundfissure gives you a dreadmace charge basically

[merry sapphire]

yup. tho the 100 loot ammo one in ancestral forest is not worth doing (that challange should be changed anyway its just doesnt fit the design of the game lmao)

[left badge]

See I pair it up with the final rune (the shock one I can never remember the name), I know its not really that beneficial its just funny

[merry sapphire]

really? i heard that its the worst one to combine with the dreadmace since that rune literally gives you 0 melee pickup charges

[left badge]

That's the only one I didn't do. Most of the challenges is just using the gun or guns that you obtain in the level. The easiest one for me is the landing spots in Aratum because you get a bit of gold and a Ruby at the second landing spot

[merry sapphire]

yup, or chase demon jets or the sort like that

[left badge]

I just used the shock one because of the increased damage because the chainshot and impaler go crazy on it. My personal favourite rune is the shoulder turret but I knew that the fissure and shock would be better in U.N

[left badge]

See I did those no problem

[merry sapphire]

honestly the most difficult sections in UN is the coming from beyond (the level after command station cause i died there once 💔) and the encounter right before the bfc

[meager vortex]

press shield aim make a slowmotion effect

[left badge]

But yeah the shock rune is probably the worst when it comes to combining it with the dreadmace so ground fissure is better

[merry sapphire]

i actually got lucky and got the leader revenent bugging out and it got stuck in the wall instead of engaging me with the komodo. that ended up the winning run lmao

[left badge]

Yeah it's for 4 seconds if I'm right

[merry sapphire]

this actually helped me so much its so good slowing stuff down to get your bearings

[merry sapphire]

fair fair

[meager vortex]

that effect same eternal rune

[merry sapphire]

yeah but this time its a permanent part of your main toolset instead of something you manually equip

[left badge]

Did you guys ever Shield Skip as I call it? Literally do it all the time when I'm not in an encounter (throwing the shield at the floor at an angle but it bounces of it like skipping a stone on water)

[left badge]

It's much better too, guess they learned from eternal

[merry sapphire]

yup do that all the time LMAO

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I'm glad I'm not the only one lmao

[merry sapphire]

funny thing is that the tooltip in the loading screens says its for lining up precision shield throws even though the shield doesn't even have a "precise" application

the shield hitbox is massive and there isnt really a small weakpoint on enemies

i just use the slowmo to get my bearing and plan according to the situation. also use it for when i feel like i lost an enemy's location since this game's artstyle doesnt make the demons as clear as they were in eternal

[meager vortex]

shield throw+ shield recall+shield bash=triple shield combo https://tenor.com/view/grinding-meat-jess-pryles-mincing-meat-preparing-a-ground-meat-gif-13535508366193847426

[merry sapphire]

i even use it in encounters when there are demons above a slope since the shield bounces to them

[merry sapphire]

doing that with each charged impaler shot deletes a pinky rider like crazy. arachnatron too

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Cyberdemons for me, feels SO good to pull off

[merry sapphire]

i actually never used the bfc in my run that much other than the last level cause i felt like i had to save it and i wasn't bothered to memorize the bfc ammo locations

[merry sapphire]

too bad you cant stick the shield in em and force them to be stuck in a falter chain

cyberdemons are basically a dreadmace pickup for me now cause its so easy hitting headshots on them with the impaler

[left badge]

I'm actually glad that doesn't happen, I like it that way

[meager vortex]

demons gut bloody every time!

[left badge]

Oh so easy yeah. I just look up at their head, stand in front, shoot parry throw parry shoot throw over and over and it MELTS

[merry sapphire]

fair it would trivilise them like crazy

[verbal matrix]

What do guys think of my pfp

[left badge]

Same thing with the Agaddons too

[merry sapphire]

i deadass thought it was something else brah

[merry sapphire]

yea

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[merry sapphire]

dreadmace is genuinely so op i started percieving heavy demons as more dangerous than super heavy demons since i save the dreadmace for them

[left badge]

Oh I'll just shield bash into the biggest guy in the room and hit them with it and just watch everything go pop

[merry sapphire]

they should probably nerf the dreadmace recharge

[left badge]

The flail is my personal favourite out the lot, I know its not big damage but I like my armour pickups from it

I only used the dreadmace in the last 3 missions to clear through the bigger encounters, like chapter 20

[merry sapphire]

gauntlet is the worst one for UN runs but its my favourite because its pretty satisfying when using it with combos

[merry sapphire]

i deadass maxed the dreadmace and mained it ever since i got it and it made UN so much easier its crazy

[cold patio]

dreadmace feels like hand held BFG

[tired nimbus]

so dread mace synergizes well with the ground fissure relic?

I’ve been running it with the lighting one

[violet lynx]

will there be another doon hame that had a timeline after eternal

or is dark ages the last doom game

[merry sapphire]

too well. a projectile parry essentially gives you a free dreadmace charge. sometimes even 2 dreadmace charges

[foggy dust]

i mean we still didn't kill samur in ancient gods pt 1

[foggy dust]

fully upgraded gauntlet disintegrates all super heavy demons, just make sure to use it when they're staggered

it's really a melee option you start to appreciate not during your first playthrough

it's broken AF

[merry sapphire]

its really not as broken as the dreadmace

[foggy dust]

yeah but you get dreadmace pretty late in the game

[split gate]

I think usually you don’t get a new weapon once you acquire the BFG for the past two Doom games, so getting the Dreadmace after the BFC maybe says something about the true OP weapon of the game haha

[merry sapphire]

i mean you do get the crucible and the unmaykr after the bfg. its just doom 2016

[split gate]

Oh yeah I forgor

[molten inlet]

Is there a mod that replaces the Dread Mace sound with the Taco Bell bell? This is crucial information that I require immediately.

[sonic turret]

I mean you do get the Crucible Sword in 2016, it's just not an executable weapon until Eternal, however Doom 3 did start a trend of demonic super weapons like the Soul Cube and the Heart of Hell/Bloodstone.

[merry sapphire]

its not the same crucible in eternal. so technicelly it never was an executable weapon. also doom 64 did it first with the hellish unmaker

[sonic turret]

That's not the point.

It was executable in Doom. Eternal, what are you talking about?

Did you even play Eternal?

The BFG in Eternal isn't the same as the BFG in 2016 or Doom 64 or Doom 2 or Ultimate Doom.

The Unmaykr in Doom 64 isn't the same as the Unmaykr in Doom Eternal.

[graceful lion]

i dont think we are that advanced yet

modding tda, especially for levels it seems, is gonna be harder

[fallow arch]

I wish it would get a dedicated modding community, although idk how hard would it be to run with mods

[sonic turret]

I mean there are modding channels in this here server. 🤔🤷

[graceful lion]

there are modding servers

a modding community isnt the issue, its also the moddability of the game

even raitro said that the game is definitely gonna be harder to mod becuase its alot more grounded for example for levels in general

levels are harder to modify and shit, things like that

so unless we get official mod support, like eternal did, it may be impossible to get mods for it

or atleast, things that arent just modifying the functions of the game, like speed and shit

[merry sapphire]

yeah but like, the demonic crucible and the slayer's crucible both are plot significant objects with different purposes that affect the story

the demonic crucible never got to be anything more than a battery

[merry sapphire]

what does that mean

like how is it more "grounded"

[graceful lion]

uhhh lets see how i can explain this

so you see how gpus have like 11 layers for their PCB?, yeah they are very delicate and hard to add modifications to, and ur gonna need software adjustments, and to adjust the "code" of the gpu itself for it to work properly

for doom eternal, you can say it had like 5 layers, for doom tda, its 11

[merry sapphire]

oh man

so no mods 💔

[graceful lion]

we figured out slowmo adn shit afaik

[silent surge]

never doubt a dedicated modding community. we could still get some cool stuff

[silent surge]

classic doom is very grounded

way different in a way but still

[dusk robin]

what are the chances that Doomguy can hear the heavy metal music that plays when we're playing the games?

[native ridge]

There's even a theory

And in eternal it's proven bcs there are like quake music, classic and modern doom music, even wolfenstein music

In the fortress of doom

[dusk robin]

fair enough, I still find people who think Doomguy in the modern games isn't the same guy as the classic dooms

[native ridge]

You say to them if he's in drugs

I did it wrong

Ypu say to them if they are on drugs

You

[dusk robin]

lol ok

[graceful lion]

i meant for their code lmao

[silent surge]

I thought so given the example, but I had to do it!

[fleet spruce]

gameplay-wise they're both are pretty grounded so yeah

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/swinging-hanging-hanging-in-there-bored-waiting-gif-18029735056767784446

[spark elm]

Few more secrets to go on holy city of aratum and of course more gold etc

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-gif-2637821906251932852

[regal shale]

Greetings

[raw drum]

Hell chat

[broken whale]

Hello

[tepid reef]

Yall I fuckin did it! I beat dark ages on Ultra-Nightmare and got the conquer skin!🥳

[hollow tartan]

did they add sliders for slo mo yet? I just got game pass for doom?

[silent surge]

not yet but it’s confirmed on the way

[lunar spire]

lets goooooo!!

[grim cloud]

im waiitng for thee patch before i play TDA again,

hopefully this week ...?

or will it not come till QC?

[harsh egret]

Which patch do u mean

The big content patch will come at QC

It will be a good time to return for sure

[frail bloom]

Can we skip to thursday

I want more Hugo news

He said smt abt revealing bits of info like possibly dlc

Like they did before tag 2

I would be down for that

Bc Imma be honest watching him die over and over is not my idea of fun, so might as well drop some info

[harsh egret]

wasnt that like the merch stuff he was talking about

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/bored-bore-boring-boring-day-bored-kid-gif-27532765

[frail bloom]

Ye but he mentioned a bit of dlc

[harsh egret]

cuz they showed that tshirt on the fly but said they would have more merch stuff they are working on

[frail bloom]

Not the satirical stuff like showing off 20 min of it lol

Tbh I don't care abt the merch

[harsh egret]

ngl tho that shirt is fire

i might get it

[frail bloom]

I know

But I wanna see smt new

[harsh egret]

i wear oversized tshirts so theres that as well

[harsh egret]

gotta wait til qc xd

[frail bloom]

Noooooo

[harsh egret]

only 3 more weeks

[frail bloom]

I wanna hear smt new how abt that

Imagine we only get one master level, no dlc announcement, no horde mode announcement

What would you do

👀

Also, we are long overdue for some tda emojis

[harsh egret]

we gave jimmy some suggestions a couple months ago, and that got redirected to ghostface

but nothing happened after that xd

[frail bloom]

Hm

[harsh egret]

im pretty convinced that wont be the case thats the thing

[frail bloom]

That was my idea of quakecon when master levels were announced

Just one master level

I guess I should have higher expectations

But still, what would you do

[harsh egret]

be dissapointed ig

[frail bloom]

I would be pretty dissapointed

Yup

Hey how abt that mouse and keyboard support

Would be good in this game

No multiplayer

[harsh egret]

hugo said he doesnt know why they couldnt do it, but said marty knows best if or why they couldnt do it

[frail bloom]

No not Marty

[harsh egret]

let me rephrase

hugo said he doesnt see why they wouldnt do it but marty knows best about these things

[frail bloom]

Well I think a lot of ppl would like an answer

They'll get to it the more you talk abt it

Y'know, the funny thing is that I don't think ID even considered post launch support until a lot of ppl asked for them

Hugo wasn't sure if they would do master levels when they played sentinel barracks

[harsh egret]

ik what u mean and that might be the case to some degree but i disagree

i think they didnt know if they would do it just yet

but on the 26th of may he wrote that reddit comment so i highly doubt it

i think hugo was just teasing around

[frail bloom]

Oh ye

Hugo does a lot of that

[harsh egret]

they didnt shift the plan to suddenly go from not supporting the game to supporting the game just like that

[frail bloom]

You think he lies abt some stuff to hide what the team is doing

[harsh egret]

i mean hugo knows all thats coming with qc

prob knew for a month now

he isnt gonna announce stuff to 1k ppl watching a stream

[frail bloom]

Hmm

He's restraining smt really big

I just wanna skip to August

Or at least get hints from a stream

[harsh egret]

kinda funny also how that hugo reddit comment is on 666 upvotes rn

[frail bloom]

Everytime he shares smt we keep going for a few days then we get bored

[frail bloom]

Gnarly

Like for example holding block while changing weapons

That is a huge change

I wanna know if FM is even composing for Dlc

[harsh egret]

i dont see why they wouldnt be

[frail bloom]

I just ran with the idea that they are bc they're easy to work with

And y'know they're closely associated with Microsoft

I hope my bois at FM have enough time

[harsh egret]

which is why i almost hope theres no dlc announcement just yet

[spark elm]

Isn’t quakecon kinda soon now?

[frail bloom]

But they said they were working hard on dlc like a couple times. I ain't expecting a date just like a little teaser

[frail bloom]

Yes August 7th

[spark elm]

24 days

[harsh egret]

they were working hard on the base game for 3-4 years also

[frail bloom]

Ye true but I expect them to have smt done or a concept fleshed out

[harsh egret]

they do

they might even be working on early concepts and stuff for the next game atm

that slayer concept by emerson with the red glove thing i found pretty interesting, would be cool to see what abilities the slayer would have with that

also some of those misc concepts from the artbook are fkin crazy

make a game based off of those pls

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1394373862195462328/ethan-evans-ethan-evans-dtda-cosmic-encountera.jpg?ex=6876935a&is=687541da&hm=6c0d33f35226f0aec07c424a765602f40b157abd89999e96d1e3ecd51541c486&

[lunar spire]

on the xbox client its saying that my data won't sync I have so many things to test

[frail bloom]

Missed opportunity ngl

Way better than sentinel command station

[lunar spire]

this reminds me of the ending of murder drones ngl. that's sick.

[harsh egret]

Just makes me feel this will be a theme of a next game

[frail bloom]

Cosmic space

[harsh egret]

Together with the scrapped black hole BFG

[frail bloom]

Hopping around planets, primarily in hell tho

Bc no way we finish off the high council in dlc

[foggy breach]

I wouldn't doubt that we might target some members of the High Council in the dlc but the plot might halt us on killing more of them

[lunar spire]

I think we might get one, but they realize what we're doing and put us in that sarcophagus

[fleet spruce]

Were they perhaps thinking of making a Halo Reach like level where you used Longsword i wonder

[merry sapphire]

Sick man, join the club 💪 i beat it yesterday

[lunar spire]

you did??? LETS GOOOO

what did you change in your strategy?

[graceful lion]

just locked in frfr

[vivid flicker]

Default settings??

[merry sapphire]

YEAH 💪

[merry sapphire]

lowkey i stopped relying on the shotgun and opted for dps

[lunar spire]

There you go, that's the key and you pulled it off. Proud of you!!

[merry sapphire]

stuck with the impaler the whole run except for boss fights (accelerator for them)

[merry sapphire]

Thanks man

[lunar spire]

yeah its wacky how good it is xD

I'm really glad you got it done, great achievement!

[frail bloom]

Waaay to early for that

Takes thousands of years before that happens