the-dark-ages

[frail bloom]

Heeeeyy I gave it its flowers

I ain't gonna love everything

I'm just giving some suggestions

Like Imagine we had Thronebreaker instead of Colussus Unleashed

[fleet spruce]

2016 and TDA soundtracks are similar if you think about it - there are stand out pieces in the soundtrack but also there are less interesting tracks

[frail bloom]

It's why they're the same rating for me

Some of 2016's just blend together

Or are generally mixed in a boring way

You have to be a patient man to listen to Rust Dust and Guts alright

It slaps but it takes too long

[rocky badger]

Thanks for the notes again!

Impaler is OP at breaking armor? I don't recall ever breaking armor with it. The shield throw for empowered shots does seem a bit too strong though. Edit: Oh, I guess it does heat armor up relatively quickly.

Ok, so Whiplash invincibility was a bug after all. Good to know.

You think parrying will give us a few seconds of Eternal style weapon swapping? Impaler + Rockets or SSG + Rockets. Congrats on him liking your idea. What are the actual top 2 close and long range single shot damage weapons? Probably not Impaler because I think you lose your empowered shot on swapping. Probably not Reaver (for DPS) due to the charge time.

You mean NG+ save slot?

[foggy breach]

What level do you see the Titans being crucified in the background?

[meager vortex]

tomorrow

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-title-collector's-edition-gif-16793651776385319022

my collector edition come

my first time collector edition

[merry sapphire]

ultra Nightmare is Brutal man

[lunar spire]

Whatcha struggling with

[dreamy kiln]

What did you expect?

[lunar spire]

What demon keeps getting ya

[grand monolith]

this is a statement every human being can agree with

[merry sapphire]

its exactly as i expected

[dreamy kiln]

Oh, nvm then

[merry sapphire]

way harder than eternal for sure (for me atleast)

[grand monolith]

is it harder than eternal or 2016's UN or nahh

[lunar spire]

No

[grand monolith]

arent there sliders in this game that make the whole experience easier?

[lunar spire]

I got it in the first week but haven't finished either 16 or DE on UN

[merry sapphire]

doom eternal is alot easier due to how much the game forgives you with near death status compared to the dark ages

[lunar spire]

Yes but Mama ain't raise no bih

[merry sapphire]

eternal has like a 15 second cooldown for death protection while dark ages is a full minute

[grand monolith]

this might be the best sentence i have ever heard in my life

[merry sapphire]

then whats the point of beating ultra nightmare that sounds boring

[lunar spire]

??? There's literally a "brink of death" mechanic in TDA that as far as I know wasn't present in previous titles

[grand monolith]

make the game faster to make it challenging

[merry sapphire]

it was present in eternal (dont know about 2016 though). it was even more forgiving in eternal

[grand monolith]

like the projectile speed at 5 million percent

[merry sapphire]

#ImGoodOnDat🙏

[grand monolith]

im pretty sure 2016 doesnt have that

[grand monolith]

make the game slower to make it easier?

[merry sapphire]

i wouldn't know i never attempted un on that game

[merry sapphire]

#AlsoGoodOnDat🙏

[lunar spire]

Beats me cuz eternal felt insanely unforgiving.

I found doom TDA's UN to be waaaaaay easier than eternal.

[grand monolith]

only if i had tda 🥀

someone pls gimme 50 bucks

[lunar spire]

Game pass

[merry sapphire]

funny i found it the opposite really. after i got past doom hunter base for the first time i literally beat UN on that run

[grand monolith]

i know that if i pay 1 dollar to the gamepass i get free games for 2 weeks but im too lazy

[merry sapphire]

once you get most of the important upgrades and the ballista the game got ALOT easier for me in eternal

[grand monolith]

i died about 40 times at doom hunter base

[lunar spire]

I'll have to show you my strats then

[merry sapphire]

80 times on cultist base for me lol. i think i died twice in doom hunter base overall in UN

[lunar spire]

Once you log enough hours you don't really miss a parry and then you suddenly become god lol

[grand monolith]

i didnt even do a UN run in eternal, im talking bout the normal nightmare

[lunar spire]

What are they gonna do? Hit you? HA

[merry sapphire]

its not really about the parries its more of the back attacks. and sometimes the shield bugs out for me and wont block/parry

[grand monolith]

i remember my 2016 UN run, i died in the last arena of the entire game

[lunar spire]

Clear arenas with shield saw to mitigate adds hitting you from behind, find combos to nuke heavy and super heavy demons

[merry sapphire]

also because of how much harder to get your health back in this game compared to eternal where you can just yeethook around the arena and farm fodder until your back in shape

[merry sapphire]

you cant really combo in this game though

[lunar spire]

??

[merry sapphire]

with weapons i mean

[grand monolith]

didnt they remove quickswitch

[merry sapphire]

if you mean combos as in shield stuff plus the main weapon then yeah

i usually delete pinkies with the empowered impaler and tossing the shield

[lunar spire]

Shield bash > gun of choice> parry > gun of choice > shield saw stun > gun of choice

[merry sapphire]

oh then yeah i do that alot

impaler my beloved

[lunar spire]

You can throw in a melee or two for some extra spice

[merry sapphire]

yup yup,

i try to setup falter chains aswell

cyberdemon doesnt even get the chance to fight back LOL

[lunar spire]

Yeah

[grand monolith]

also should i start this game on hurt me plenty or ultra violence

[merry sapphire]

ultra violance

[lunar spire]

Depends. What did you play previous games at

[grand monolith]

my coward old self started both games on ITYTD, but now i replayed them both in UV

[merry sapphire]

how do you deal with that fuckass arena fight right before the bfc? @lunar spire

[lunar spire]

I'd say UV or nightmare

[merry sapphire]

with the leader rev and the komodo

its such a difficult fight

[lunar spire]

Focus komodo

[grand monolith]

does the bfc mean big fkng crossbow

[lunar spire]

Do you get ravager at that point?

[merry sapphire]

the thing is that the rev shoots these homing projectiles that delete the shield

[lunar spire]

I forgor. It only took me 6 attempts to clear UN so I don't remember much

[merry sapphire]

yup but they recently nerfed it against the komodo so its not the best choice of a weapon for him now

[grand monolith]

how much time do u have on the game

[lunar spire]

Uhhhhh...

[merry sapphire]

im on my 4th attempt and the furthest i reached was spire level (bfc one) is that good

[lunar spire]

Great question actually. I think it was like 4 or 5 days total or something

[lunar spire]

Yeah that's p good

[grand monolith]

you got like 120 hours in the game, ive owned eternal for 3 yrs and i just got 100 hourso n it (i have 300 on 2016)

[lunar spire]

I remember my first death was to an empowered whiplash that was empowered by a pinkie rider, with a room full of soldiers and 2 imps

[lunar spire]

Doom TDA is easier to get more hours in imo. It feels more immersive and less like you have to do a line of coke to keep up

[grand monolith]

does it also have a high skill ceiling

[lunar spire]

I mean I don't know all the new tech coming out but I'd say it has a decent one. Not as high as eternal

[grand monolith]

should i first test the game with gamepass or just buy the thing fully

[lunar spire]

I mean the new damage reduction tech is to just turn around when your shield breaks lmao

Dawg you can beat it on one game pass sub

[grand monolith]

yeah i know that the games campaigndoesnt require a total of 2 weeks

[lunar spire]

Not really

[merry sapphire]

the backshot tech

[lunar spire]

Oh ok ok

[merry sapphire]

funniest tech ever

[lunar spire]

I wish I was joking 💀

[grand monolith]

ill just test it first and beat the game 2 times to make sure

[lunar spire]

Honestly if you kill the leader the other demons despawn

[merry sapphire]

the game is longer than eternal but its not that long if you play the game alot

[merry sapphire]

yea

[grand monolith]

so like 20 hours or smth? ( the campaign)

[lunar spire]

In my 100% playthrough I just beat the revenant into submission with falter spam and DPS

[merry sapphire]

thats why im thinking i should ignore the komodo and just focus on the rev asap

[lunar spire]

I mean you should keep the komodo in line of sight to parry

[merry sapphire]

yup yup

that arena barely has fodder so its alot harder to regen your health

[lunar spire]

Don't let him pressure you into making mistakes. The enemies are just ways to charge abilities, not actually enemies. They only hurt you if you let them

And if you're struggling for health, try the mourning star

[merry sapphire]

harder to say then do ngl. ultra nightmare in of itself is pretty stressful due to the possibility of death

[merry sapphire]

thats my main for now. man once i get the dreadmace its over

[lunar spire]

Idk. I've used all 3, I kinda like the mourning star the most.

[merry sapphire]

i still cant forget that time when i was fighting icon of sin in ultra nightmare. genuinely missing every shot due to me being stressed as shit

felt like puking mid fight brah

[grand monolith]

how long is the damn campaign???

[lunar spire]

I couldn't imagine. That game stresses me out too much

[lunar spire]

First playthrough was 22 hours

[grand monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1293942427165524132/1393124373866745908/Ekran_goruntusu_2025-07-10_110927.png?ex=687207ad&is=6870b62d&hm=048d6bb3798bef6297ab09ac114a2161c0b182a297ce9ba2dfb5c5a383fae26c&

[merry sapphire]

the flail is better overall but the gauntlets are alot more fun imo. though i only use them in regular nightmare playthroughs

[lunar spire]

Second was 12 for whole game

[grand monolith]

thats pretty long

[merry sapphire]

go play it and find out

[lunar spire]

Break it into chunks

I didn't play it in one sitting bro

[grand monolith]

give me 50 bucks then idk

[grand monolith]

yeah i know, you actually have a life

[lunar spire]

[merry sapphire]

you dont have it?? you should go buy it or play it on gamepass

[grand monolith]

i need 1 dollar for the gamepass shit tho

[lunar spire]

Facts. The upgraded flail is just nuts for survivability

IDC about damage that's what I have my impaler and SSG for

[merry sapphire]

then go get a dollar brah

[grand monolith]

i do have money, im just lazy as fuck

[merry sapphire]

ngl ion even use anything else other than the impaler its that good

[grand monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1293942427165524132/1393125473881686047/Ekran_goruntusu_2025-07-10_172246.png?ex=687208b3&is=6870b733&hm=a9cc3213df3f493836707aeb75369634ace8ca6f277b94008952f5632cd4a6d5&

[lunar spire]

It's what I used on my UN runs

[merry sapphire]

you just risk spoiling yourself by talking here and not playing the game of the year

[grand monolith]

50 dollars is crazy for just a campaign tho

[lunar spire]

Worth.

[merry sapphire]

its a fun ass game man what can i tell you

[grand monolith]

ofcourse its a fun game, its a damn doom game

[merry sapphire]

worth 70 dollars for me im Burning tf out of this game

[lunar spire]

Y'know what I really wanna do shiv? I wanna play a challenge run where all demons are cosmic Barons.

[grand monolith]

people at id working their asses off so they can make people play a masterpiece

shoutout to them they did a crazy good job

[merry sapphire]

good luck facing 8 barons in an arena brah. their projectiles are more dangeours than their melee LMAO

[grand monolith]

if it enters a sale, i promise ill buy it

[merry sapphire]

especially since the parryable projectile is randomly places and not predetermined like the mancubi

[lunar spire]

See the fun part is, if you parry well then you're chillin

[grand monolith]

but with my countries economy, 50 dollars is way too much

[lunar spire]

You need 1 in your face to parry and then you're fine

You'd just have to get the gauntlets first

[grand monolith]

theres a parry mechanic? im buying it rn

[lunar spire]

It's peak gaming

[grand monolith]

also yall wanna know how to upload pictures? like in this serv

[lunar spire]

Nah I'm ok

[grand monolith]

since we dont get image perms

[lunar spire]

I don't fancy getting banned

[grand monolith]

i mean you just gotta make sure its on topic

[lunar spire]

I no no wanna try

[merry sapphire]

try saying that when you get 4 line projectiles from every direction with the parryable projectile in random places

[lunar spire]

If you parry the first one, you're usually fine

Ok gn chat

[grand monolith]

tf you mean gn? o hwait timezones exist

[slate heart]

Fully Upgraded chainshot is overpowered, 2 hit a cyberdemon

[minor plinth]

I feel like the impaler, ssg and chainshot serve the same purpose

[slate heart]

Kinda but they feel different enough to use

[minor plinth]

Yea true

[merry sapphire]

you cannot 2 hit a cyberdemon with the upgraded chainshot brah

[slate heart]

I remember doing that

[slate heart]

It was at full charge

[fleet spruce]

you can 2 hit them with Dreadmace iirc

[merry sapphire]

u probably had increased your damage with difficulty sliders

[late lotus]

Hello 👋 good day here😊!

[idle drum]

Is it just me or is it kind of a shame how we get many weapons very late into the game?

A mode to be able to change which weapons we get and how early could be awesome, something similar to acquiring guns in Eternal horde mode or maybe even being able to pick the weapon you want when you reach a gun pickup in the campaign

Either that or a NG+ mode where you start with all weapons and runes but un upgraded

[fallow arch]

Just wanted to as which is the most broken combo in tda currently

[thick dove]

how can i report a problem with the italian subtitles

[merry sapphire]

i think its fine as it is. the game could get boring pacing wise if we got all of the stuff early on and leave nothing for the later levels

[tranquil bluff]

I hope they add a way to take off the melee counter in the middle of the screen without turning the hud completely off

I like playing without a crosshair and it kinda gets in the way

[warm blaze]

Epic

[hasty stone]

Patch today?

[meager vortex]

no

[shell gull]

anyone made a summary of the recent stream

[marble seal]

Horde Mode today? 😦

[hollow sandal]

@shell gull

[shell gull]

will there be any updates between quakecon and is quakecon gonna be massive?

[hasty stone]

Prolly

Or balance changes

[delicate grotto]

Hugo said there’s a lot planned to reveal at Quakecon.

[frail bloom]

For the last one, yes

[harsh egret]

credited u on my post with the notes from the stream, put some of them on twitter ty again

[harsh egret]

man let me fast forward time until quakecon

[shell gull]

kinda hope later down the line theres gonna be enemy that can feint there attacks or fake their attacks

[rocky badger]

Has Archville been hinted at?

[frail bloom]

Nope

Hey who did that

It's possible alr

[frail bloom]

When's quakecon, like what day

I know August but when

[harsh egret]

7th-10th

big stuff will be revealed on the 7th pretty sure

[frail bloom]

Hmm alr thanks

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/gjirlfriend-gif-14457952604098199169

[frail bloom]

Yeah it's like this for long stretches of time

Someone fast forward to August pls

[rocky badger]

Can practice parrying in Expedition 33

[merry sapphire]

@harsh egret is that you on twitter

posting doom news and allat

[merry sapphire]

nevermind yeah i just saw this message

followed you instantly appreciate the news man 🙏

what does the “new game” save slot mean exactly? like new game plus or just one more save slot

[frail bloom]

Like how we have 3 slots, Hugo is considering a 4th slot

[harsh egret]

lol ye all g, its fun for me to do so

[rocky badger]

Oh, so it's not a NG+? Start with all the equipment you finished the game with?

[frail bloom]

No no it's a new slot for you to fill, so it is a new game slot

I think

What can you not go back to the beginning and play levels you've beaten?

[hollow sandal]

Mods give this guy a yellow name

[rocky badger]

I guess that's true. I'm used to my Pandemonium and UN playthroughs

[rocky badger]

So by "last one" were you referencing my assumption about the quick swapping?

[hasty stone]

Can someone post a link to the stream stuff from Hugo?

I'm at work and don't know what to look for

[supple oracle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kObIbnNqFCY

[hasty stone]

Nah not the video

I ment the notes

[harsh egret]

@frail bloom had some

i dont have all of it atm

[hollow sandal]

@hasty stone

[graceful lion]

hmmm, supporting the game, mod support?

maybe im readin too much into it

would be baller as fuck tho

[harsh egret]

could happen but not yet prob

[hasty stone]

It would take years

Took eternal years after release but dark ages would be even better than eternal for mods

The shield I like more than the meat hook

[lunar spire]

hear me out.. meathook AND shield....

[raw drum]

Shield is enough

[graceful lion]

well, it would take years to mod like we do in eternal rn

iirc making modding levels is gonna be harder

because tda is more grounded, in alot of ways

[frail bloom]

No the new game slot, to be determined if Hugo is considering a switch buff. Not eternal levels but letting players be able to switch between two or 3 guns it a time that isn't frustrating or restrictive

[frail bloom]

I'm guessing master levels, new tunables and maybe a horde mode, mod support is possible but we don't know

And of course dlc

[frail bloom]

I can envision the greatness

[slow zodiac]

Man the whiplashes are so buggy lol: they often don't get stunned by the shield (or get stunned when they shouldn't), they don't get stunned by heaven splitter when they slither BUT still get shocked, cycler's shock effect doesn't bounce to them from other enemies when they slither as well.
Also if you stun it with your shield mid attack it still will finish the attack before getting stunned

[frail bloom]

Ye Hugo is looking into some of that I believe

[slow zodiac]

I'm currently playing the game on max sliders and all of these little problems become really noticeable

yeah I hope they can fix it

[frail bloom]

It will be patched but idk when

Eternal was also like this

Blood punch bug was egregious

[slow zodiac]

yeah I remember eternal had some quirks as well

yeah they fixed blood punch like 5 times lol

they finally managed to make it work most of the time when dlc 2 came out

Btw did Hugo tell anything about when the next patch is supposed to come out at least approximately?

[idle drum]

I mean for most weapons it's okay, but getting the Dreadmace so late of further replays has been the cause why I've never used it aside from the level challenge

[slow zodiac]

Oh and I'm not sure if it's a bug or not but does the mace not supposed to stagger every enemy no matter what?
Maybe it's cause I'm playing with 50% incoming damage or smth but my mace never staggers any heavy enemy like cybers, barons or agaddon hunters

[silent surge]

dreadmace OP especially when max

[rocky badger]

I love the idea. But I feel like you either go all in or don't do it. Even if only for a very short time

[frail bloom]

Again it's very unsure what route they'll go, they solved it already with being able to block while switching, the weapon switch buff is the cherry on top if expanded on

[slow zodiac]

dreadmace does tons of damage but it doesn't stagger enemies most of the time which is really weird, especially considering that a simple kick can stagger literally anything lol

[rocky badger]

So I almost exclusively use the Impaler.

If they end up nerfing its damage to armor, what are the other best long and short range options?

SSG short range, Reaver long range?

[slow zodiac]

I think it'd be cool if they did what you proposed, I just think they should make it just a tiny bit faster, otherwise it could quickly turn the game into doom eternal

[frail bloom]

Ye just a bit faster and after parrying, to further feed into the new loop but allow more creativity

[slow zodiac]

I almost always use reaver for armor. Flail works too if you play with that. Accelerator is great for suppressive fire on long distances if you use the reduced spread upgrade

[rocky badger]

Accelerator, really? I used that a lot for fast moving enemies: Revenant, Witch, Komodo, Vagary (projectiles). But I assumed it was good against energy shields and bad against armor.

[hasty stone]

Quick swithing leave it for eternal

Switching

Ppl need to let it go, this is a new game, I hated the stupid quick swap

[slow zodiac]

oh I didn't mean to use it for the armor, just in general, but it works not bad for armor when fully charged with max upgrade

[rocky badger]

Seems like if it's not significantly faster, then there's still no point in swapping

[frail bloom]

It's not really hotswapping it's fixing the slow nature of swapping in the first place

Like mixing pincushion with cycler buff

It would allow you to do that in time

[hasty stone]

You can instant shield why should we get instal weapon swapping? It's not needed

[slow zodiac]

yeah some weapons have really cool combo potentials but the slow weapon swap makes you not want to use them

[rocky badger]

Ok, that makes sense

[hasty stone]

I don't find it slow there's game way slower

[slow zodiac]

nobody's asking for instant weapon swap

[frail bloom]

Ye

[hasty stone]

Rly I don't think they need to bother messing with it

It's fine

[slow zodiac]

if it won't feel good or break some things they won't implement it, I trust Hugo on that front

[hasty stone]

HUGOOOO

[frail bloom]

Ye like the agaddon hunter and mancubus changes they were gonna do but avoided

They simply stopped bc it felt bad

[gentle edge]

Anyone down to help with trophies on eternal?

[remote thunder]

idk man, i think being rewarded with one (1) quickswap after a parry is a pretty conservative buff

swapping weapons at all feeling detrimental is kinda shitty, no?

thinking "wait there's a better weapon for this" and switching WILL get you killed unless you fully disengage first

and that's not standing and fighting, is it?

[lunar spire]

It doesn't always get you killed, you just have to read the battlefield decently enough to do it

it doesn't take that long to swap either

Tho ig it depends on what you play on

But I agree, one quickswap would be cool. Dunno how much it would really help in the combat loop aside from dealing with armor tho

[remote thunder]

every reload animation having uncancelable recovery frames long after the reload is visually done says otherwise

[lunar spire]

And if it is after a parry, it needs to be after a projectile parry and not a melee parry

[lunar spire]

Reload? do you mean for the super shotgun?

you can absolutely still parry after firing with it

unless I'm grossly misunderstanding

[frail bloom]

Switching takes a while even after the reload time is done for a weapon

[remote thunder]

i'm not talking about that, every reload is immediately cancelable into parry (even though the internal reload timer keeps ticking)

[frail bloom]

Like say the ssg is done, switching to the impaler is delayed always

[lunar spire]

I don't play at base speed so maybe I don't notice it as much, idk.

[remote thunder]

you should've just said that immediately

[lunar spire]

But I didn't :)

[remote thunder]

duh, nothing feels sluggish if you artificially speed everything up 🤦‍♂️

[lunar spire]

Not perfect, sorry chief

got like 5 other things going on aside from this conversation

Apologies if that bothers you though!

[lunar spire]

testing shortly, I never really had issues with doing it but I'm going to try and elicit the problem

I see it now, I just don't really get the complaint on it tbh. if you commit to using that weapon during the fight, fire your shots to break armor or kill whatever it is, and while parrying after the reload is done just swap off

[frail bloom]

Bc some ppl want to be creative

They want to see how other weapons react to eachother

[lunar spire]

Fair enough!

[frail bloom]

It would raise the skill ceiling as well

[lunar spire]

I don't think the system was designed with that in mind but it would be interesting

they'd need to make much harder and tankier enemies for it

[frail bloom]

They need to add more enemies period

[lunar spire]

yeah

[frail bloom]

It's not that we need tankier enemies, we just need more enemies

It was advertized to utilize a bunch of enemies but it's only fodder

[lunar spire]

Yeah, I really wanted an actual all out war when I step onto the battlefield as the slayer

[slow zodiac]

well Hugo said they're going to update some fights in act 2 and 3 so we'll see

[lunar spire]

instead its just pockets of combat

[next thistle]

Finally beat Pandemonium Nightmare. Pretty solid for my old @$$

[silver flame]

https://tenor.com/view/butters-south-park-metal-head-rocking-out-heavy-metal-gif-4181268421699180684

[harsh egret]

theres some moments where theres alot of enemies in one arena and i actually would love more of that

and not just fodder

i was watching the stream yesterday and at the last arena after u get ground fissure it felt like there was a really nice amount of enemies to fight at the same time but i dont get that vibe all the time

also could the release of the physical artbook give a hint to when the dlc could come out? so december or smth?

idk

maybe theres dlc stuff in that and they wanna wait for dlc to release first

[frail bloom]

That would be abt 6 months working on dlc

But I expect them to take more time

Especially for the composers

I don't want the folks at FM to be given no less than 3 months to work on it

Otherwise we're heading for disaster

[wind dew]

Yall see the Shield Pillow?

[solemn matrix]

Any update on how to get the Phalanx skin yet?

[delicate sparrow]

I wish for more gameplay focused stuff and less cutscenes tbh

For the DLC

Eternal did such a good job showing all the more,places and atmosphere with little cutscenes,dark ages can do the same and even better

[hollow hedge]

Nexusmods

[silver flame]

The best solution 🙏

[broken berry]

The Shield Saw pfp is gone, nooooo 😭

Kinda wish it was a permanent thing I could buy. Oh well... 😔

[silver flame]

wait its not permanant

i wasted 10 mins of my life for something that wasent mine forever

AHhhh

[solemn matrix]

Legitimately I don’t do mods

[hollow hedge]

Legitimately, I cannot help you then.

[lunar spire]

Siiiick

I still got it let's gooo

[lean mural]

dude, dark ages is just so god dang good

[delicate sparrow]

Agree,replaying it now actually

[lean mural]

i already have all the gold skins

[manic pollen]

Why everytime i hear the word doom i just hear the music-

[lean mural]

real, and honestly, i would love for the doom soundtrack to play whenever i'm really annoyed with someone

[manic pollen]

oof sorry to hear that

[lean mural]

what are you talking about?

[manic pollen]

wait nvm i read it wrong

mb im still at work

Very tired

[prisma niche]

I just hear heavy guitar feedback when I hear the word

[manic pollen]

That is very understandable

[prisma niche]

Totally

[tranquil zodiac]

my issue with fodder in dark ages is that they're too much of a second thought. You see like dozens of fodder demons, then you throw your shield once, or you bash once, and they're all gone.

[woven jolt]

yeah, in eternal, a single imp could kill you if you're not careful

[dark thunder]

ok wtf is the dlc gonna be about if it has nothing about the death of marok and the fall of the sentinels in the civil war

[rigid flame]

Hello, I'm having trouble playing Doom the dark ages on Game Pass on my PC. When I launch the game, my monitor fails to recognize the resolution, causing the game to lock up. I can't even alt-tab out or close the application, so I have to hard reset my computer.

[fleet spruce]

Same with the soldier zombies in Dark Ages, especially shielded chaingunner , they very much can shred you if you're not paying attention, had a couple of deaths on zombie soldier projectile too

[summer temple]

How much extra damage does a shocked demon take?

[dark thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-what-did-you-say-what-did-you-just-say-gif-8999232196874581113

[tight elm]

67

[remote thunder]

20%, applies to every source of damage

[foggy breach]

If you just ignore the tablet at the end of the Temple of Lomarith and attempt to walk up the stairs, you just phase through the ground and into the void, lol.

[harsh egret]

into the void you say...

[rocky badger]

My pfp shield disappeared and I can't add it back

It does not show up in my avatar decorations either

[harsh egret]

prob cuz u dont have nitro anymore i assume

[boreal locust]

I FINALLY GOT THE PLATINUM

That bugged trophy pissed me off man.. finally

[inner pecan]

It was only for two months

[rocky badger]

Yeah and I had it. I changed my pfp and now I can no longer select it as a decoration

[subtle wyvern]

You keep it for a limited amount of time

[dusk monolith]

Same... its the most metal thing in the universe

[fallow arch]

Wanted to ask,which is the strongest combo currently

[boreal night]

does anyone know, how to go to the skyboxes in doom dark age using noclip ?

[stray stone]

The dahr cages

[split gate]

My pfp shield went Into the Void 😔

[vivid flicker]

You can do that?

[boreal night]

i use a small program made by someone on github to noclip, but for the skybox i don't know if i can

[harsh egret]

fuck, then so will mine soon

[split gate]

Enjoy it while it lasts bro

[harsh egret]

[rocky badger]

It will probably stay until you change your pfp.

It still shows up as an earned reward, but does not show up in my avatar decoration options

[frail bloom]

Not a good idea to skip to the end of the civil war

[gilded lake]

when/where did he say this

[frail bloom]

I think on Mayo's stream with Act Man and Midnight

[delicate grotto]

I know there’s fixes but I can’t recall them. Try asking #tech-talk?

[subtle wyvern]

I think using GPU scaling instead of monitor scaling should help, I know it is in the monitor settings on AMD but I don't remember where it would be on Nvidia

[vivid flicker]

HOW DO YOU GET YHAT PFP SHIELD ITS SO COOL

[dark thunder]

as long as there's a good and interesting stuff to cover between then that's awesome cuz i was thinking it was just him killing demons and not getting wrapped up in some crazy plot between dark ages and civil war

I do wonder though if we'll get to play the civil war in another dlc or game one day

[frail bloom]

Well they wanna make more so they'll make more

[frail bloom]

High council of hell sounds promising ngl

[meager vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-title-collector's-edition-gif-16793651776385319022

i have it today!

[frail bloom]

Yipee

[dark thunder]

fr, if this is the same council that commanded the armies of hell to invade his original earth, he's gonna go extra rage mode for revenge

[meager vortex]

and im restart campaign 17th time

1/12inch doom the dark ages figure is awsome!

and i saw sns someone made 1/15 doom the dark ages figure

with 3d printer

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/palla-deserto-desert-hot-gif-6014273

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/desert-neant-rolling-gif-15720968

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/alone-karu-cute-frog-karu-love-gif-7237856804154422123

[harsh egret]

pov waiting for quakecon

[frail bloom]

Maybe bundling everything is not the best idea

[harsh egret]

i disagree, especially with the act 2/3 encounter updates as well

[frail bloom]

What abt slo mo

[harsh egret]

i already replayed just for the act 1 update

the slow mo i dont even care if its in the game or not tbh, but ill test it out and see how it is when its out

[frail bloom]

They finished it tho

[harsh egret]

and i dont wanna feel like i have to replay for each update

[frail bloom]

And a lot of ppl want no slo mo

[harsh egret]

i really hate when games also are early access and they get new stuff every few months

just makes me wanna wait like a year until its done with everything

[frail bloom]

Hm

[harsh egret]

10% of this is also the fact that i cant play the game atm

[frail bloom]

Ok at least smt to talk abt

[harsh egret]

idk i feel like quakecon will bring alot of hype back to the game if they have lots to show

[frail bloom]

Fair

[harsh egret]

so far the path tracing update had the biggest effect on player numbers lol

i remember it was like 200 more than usual that day and it was mid week i think

they need smth big

at the same time

[frail bloom]

How many play a day?

[nova spear]

Plz someone tell me if the berserk trophy is fixed

[frail bloom]

It is

[nova spear]

On ps5?

[frail bloom]

Yup

[nova spear]

I still don't have it bro

[harsh egret]

it peaks at 1.3-1.4k nowadays

[nova spear]

On steam?

[harsh egret]

yes

[nova spear]

Lol only on steam

People always check steam

[harsh egret]

yeah but thats the only place u can track

[nova spear]

Not gamepass, ps5, Xbox and stuff

[nova spear]

So it's never accurate

[harsh egret]

im not saying its low numbers, in my head im comparing it to launch in %

if 5% are still playing on steam compared to launch, then u get a general idea how it is everywhere else

im not saying its low numbers, since most are playing it not on steam ofc

but 5% of the highest peak (at launch) is where its at

eternal seems to be around that as well 2 months after release but that wasnt on gamepass on launch

but am i the only one thinking they should bundle everything together for the quakecon update instead of dropping SOME stuff rn?

[frail bloom]

Hmmm, how many people are gonna come back for no slo mo, master level(s), shield saw bug fix, and a dlc teaser

[harsh egret]

and act 2/3 updates

and horde mode (copium)

i think alot if all this drops together

maybe will attract also a decent amount of new players too

[frail bloom]

Ye very copium

I'd expect maybe an announcement but that's reaching

[harsh egret]

if they dont do like 3 master levels with no horde mode then i think thats too little

if they do 1 master level and horde mode then thats good i think

remember hugo said this not long after launch that they are working on smth like that

[frail bloom]

But don't you want new locations and new enemies in horde mode

[harsh egret]

3 months to have some ppl cook on that sounds plausable to me

[frail bloom]

Otherwise the gameplay loop won't feel as refined as dlc, unless they update it, which goes against what you said

[harsh egret]

idk if they will have new enemies specifically for horde mode tho

maybe after dlc comes out horde mode gets an update or smth

[harsh egret]

goes against what that i said, wdym?

new locations should be a given ye

like i said, to me, i wouldnt be surprised if they have a team working on horde mode exclusively and ready with it for QC

[slow zodiac]

Just finished the game on max sliders, an interesting experience. It was often frustrating, but I had to relearn most of the fights which made the playthrough really fresh

Although many of the game's small technical flaws become really apparent when you play like this. I probably should've made a list of every bug I'd been encountering during the playthrough

[shell gull]

anyone else found using pincushion then using the shield throw and SSG shot on a mancubus rlly fun

[slow zodiac]

Pincushion seems really fun in general. Although I barely ever use it cause switching weapons is too slow

[hollow sandal]

Lemme fuckin get into pin cushion

Been experimenting with the cycler

It seems killing anything bigger than a stalker imp will contribute 75 percent to overcharge. Stalker inps and fodder 25 percent to the charge

[uneven mortar]

Those hu go

[slow zodiac]

I've seen Mayo using pincushion + cycler's shock, it seemed really strong

[vivid flicker]

Why did doomguy not get snt to heaven after dying?

[silent surge]

so much better without at 100 game speed. 150 game speed no slow mo is a challenge in ways. cosmic barons

[slow zodiac]

cosmic barons are such shitters dude

[wheat sigil]

i feel like it's disruptive no matter the speed

[harsh egret]

yh i just gotta see it for myself
i see so many people like 150% speed in general but i dont so in some ways i dont have the most popular prefferences

[slow zodiac]

my favorite speed was 110% for a while but after recently playing at 150% I'll probably stick to either 120 or 130% from now on

[harsh egret]

ive had plenty of moments where the slowmo parries and melees was on beat with the tracks and it feels so good sometimes

without slowmo it wouldnt be feel like that

[harsh egret]

ye ive been sitting on 110% speed and i like it like that for now

[slow zodiac]

I made slow mo a bit shorter with Kaibz mod, it feels much better to me than vanilla. I don't like having no slow mo though

[uneven mortar]

I don't mind the slow mo at all tbh, though I'm interested to see how it feels without

I will say though, it was pretty stupid to cut glory kills down because they "ruin the pace" and then make the equivalent have baked-in slow mo lol

[slow zodiac]

unlike glorykills, slowmo doesn't ruin the flow that much tho

[merry pumice]

get kabiz mod omg

[harsh egret]

I try to sync the slowmo with the tracks alot of the times and it feels amazing to me

[slow zodiac]

every time I accidentally make a glorykill in this game I freaking hate it

[merry pumice]

completely changed how i enjoy the game

i can’t go back

[uneven mortar]

Tbh i don't think either ruin the flow, but I'm not a super high level player. And glory kills r prettier

[merry pumice]

holy shit it’s Xavier’s online i remember you from 2021 left twitter hi

[uneven mortar]

Omg hellloo! Yes im still kicking

[merry pumice]

that’s crazy

[uneven mortar]

Ik

[merry pumice]

i was just some anon back then

anyways yes Kabiz mod lets you customize the slowmo easing and all that which i hope they make official in the QC update instead of it just being a switch to disable

because i still do like a little hit stun

just not as dramatic

[uneven mortar]

Agree

I hope the QC update has more than one master level, but it probably wouldnt right

[harsh egret]

My prediction is 3 but i get called crazy for that

[wheat sigil]

honestly in terms of gameplay tweaks, what i want most is to be able to block while swapping weapons

[harsh egret]

Depends tho what else they have

[uneven mortar]

They said theyre gonna do that i think

[harsh egret]

If horde mode randomly gets announced then one is fine

[uneven mortar]

They're also considered buffing swap speed after a parry which sounds SO cool

Anything that encourages using more than one weapon is cool imo

[slow zodiac]

I doubt they will allow you to fine tune the slowmo as kaibz mod does, it'll probably just be a single slider

[harsh egret]

Well, ur using the 2 weapons in ur hand at the same time

[uneven mortar]

TDA lived up to my expectations and I like it more than eternal, but I miss Eternal's full-arsenal pressure way more than I thought I would

[worldly ocean]

hi

[stray kelp]

I love all the weapons in TDA but it never really feels like you have to swap

[uneven mortar]

Yeah

I wish they'd separate the resource sliders so I can cut down my ammo pick-ups

Then I'd need to use all my guns

[stray kelp]

For me i think its just that swapping feels inconvenient in the heat of combat

I’m not asking for hot-swapping back but damn

[uneven mortar]

Yeah, I think they're gonna fix that tho

[stray kelp]

🙏

[slow zodiac]

at least they'll nerf rocket launcher and reaver shot ammo capacity so that' something

[stray kelp]

I actually always burn through my launcher ammo

I forgot the name but the vampire ability makes me feel invincible

[slow zodiac]

I think they're doing that so that people couldn't spam the grenade launcher from a safe place all the time

yeah I love the rocket launcher's upgrades

[uneven mortar]

That's probably good, I was leaning on reaver way too hard in my playthrough

I wasn't finding rockets too plentiful tbh

[slow zodiac]

reaver has like 25 shots with all upgrades, that's really a lot

[uneven mortar]

Honestly the dreadmace needs a massive nerf, it makes cyberdemons irrelevant

And the ammo is too much

[slow zodiac]

oh I think they're also going to buff the grenade launcher cause many people seem to ignore it

yeah the dreadmace deals too much damage and I think it also gives you full ammo from every execution, you don't even have to spend your charge

[uneven mortar]

Grenade Launcher is tricky because it's not weak, it's just lame af. Like oh more cluster bombs whatever

It's a fundamentally fun weapon archetype and the upgrades don't explore that

[stray kelp]

I don’t think i’ve even upgraded my grenade launcher yet

[slow zodiac]

I think it would be cool if it gave you armor for kills or smth

like rocket launcher gives you health, grenade launcher gives you armor

it's like poetry, it rhymes or some shit

[uneven mortar]

If it bounced from enemy to enemy that'd be funny

[slow zodiac]

lol yeah

[stray kelp]

We already got the combat shotgun for armor but its low key not that useful

[slow zodiac]

yeah

[frail bloom]

It's useful in that bfc room

If you know you know lmao

[uneven mortar]

Combat shotgun just doesn't feel fun to use

[stray kelp]

It gets kinda redundant

needs better upgrades

[frail bloom]

I disagree, that combat shotgun helps a lot

And triple shot is super fun for me

The explosive shot is a bit eh

[silent surge]

one of the few ways to get armor from your arsenal

[slow zodiac]

the only effective way I found to quickly regain armor with the shotgun is when you have a bunch of hellknights, mancubi or revenants really close to each other

I don't get explosive shot at all, like what's its purpose

[frail bloom]

At the same time I use flail and ground fissure

I have an armor build essentially

[harsh egret]

Combat shotgun is actually great

[slow zodiac]

the alternative to triple shot is also really weak, it gives you like 3 or 4 armor per killed fodder, you'd have to run around for like half a minute to restore at least half of your armor

[uneven mortar]

I have no doubt it's useful, it just feels ppiddly compared to SSG

But that's fine, I'll just use SSG

[frail bloom]

It feels moe useful honestly

[harsh egret]

I dont feel like its far behind

[frail bloom]

Close amount of damage and armor

[slow zodiac]

I'm sure the shotgun's useful for full armor builds but on its own it's kinda eh

[harsh egret]

Idk, i like it lol

[frail bloom]

Ssg doesn't really play around with your shield or melee

It's just big damage

Cool for general use but I like the utility weapons

[uneven mortar]

Weapon balance is kind of funky still

[frail bloom]

Ye they're getting to that

Big bundle in quakecon

[slow zodiac]

tbh I think the reaver shot deals so much damage to enemy armor that using ssg for that feels kinda pointless

[frail bloom]

Bug fixes, balancing, new content, teasers

[harsh egret]

Impaler needs some rebalance

[slow zodiac]

they're nerfing the impaler

[frail bloom]

Which is confirmed at this point

[harsh egret]

Yh ik

[frail bloom]

For the better

[uneven mortar]

Reaver is weird because it's obscenely powerful but doesn't do anything super interesting

[harsh egret]

But that gun specifically i feel like im cheesing the game just using it lol

[frail bloom]

More interesting that the ssg

[uneven mortar]

It's just free damage no drawback, reaver feels cheaty

[frail bloom]

At least parrying charges it

[slow zodiac]

yeah I only used impaler and reaver in my UN run

[uneven mortar]

SSG forces you to get close so it feels balanced mostly

[frail bloom]

That is the one thing I'll give it

It's poo poo long range

So there is a drawback

[hollow sonnet]

Guys

All Hope Is Gone is like the perfect alternative soundtrack for the game

[frail bloom]

Oh no not again

[harsh egret]

[frail bloom]

Listen

[hollow sonnet]

What

[frail bloom]

Levy is a very cool dude alr

[hollow sonnet]

No im not saying the soundtrack is bad

[frail bloom]

I really like throne breaker alr

I think it somewhat fits

What?

[uneven mortar]

I love David Levy from Slipknot

[harsh egret]

Lmfao

[hollow sonnet]

I’m confused are we now listing good soundtrack alternatives or are you criticizing me

[maiden onyx]

My fights with hunters are always close with the ssg, gets my blood pumping, the reaver just trivializes it

[hollow sonnet]

I’m stoned so forgive my idiocy

[frail bloom]

No I thought you were abt to be that guy

Keep going

What is it

[uneven mortar]

Yeah, idk it feels too perfect? Like you hit me, I hit you. Idk

[hollow sonnet]

I mean I personally am not an enormous fan of the soundtrack but I think it’s good

[frail bloom]

Ok, and

[uneven mortar]

Honestly if Reaver did less damage at short range that would be interesting

[hollow sonnet]

But I’m just listening to All Hope is Gone by Slipknot - the whole album has a great grind to it and the tempos generally feel like they fit the speed of the game

[frail bloom]

There's a slipknot reference in Blood Red I'm pretty sure

What was it I forgor...

Smt with the Kreeds theme

[stray kelp]

This sounds fun actually

[maiden onyx]

I love the frenzy feel in hellspawn rift, do you guys know any tracks with a similar vibe (non doom or otherwise)

[slow zodiac]

dude you're cooking, get Hugo on the phone

[uneven mortar]

I have so many ideas...

[frail bloom]

Huh that makes sense

Ye why not

[harsh egret]

i support it

[maiden onyx]

Do you mean absolutely, or as in the closer you get the less damage you do?

[harsh egret]

imo it should be the closer you get the less damage you do

[uneven mortar]

The latter, the highest damage would be right before the enemy is out of range

[slow zodiac]

yeah, let's say its maximum range is 15 meters, so at like 10-15 metres you'd deal maximum damage but when you get closer than 10 meters the damage starts gradually reducing

[maiden onyx]

I've just got a funny image of doomguy firing the chain shot too close to an enemy and it bouncing off and domeing him

[wheat sigil]

i think that forcing the player to swap weapons is worse than incentivizing it, one restricts the player, the other lets the player do what they want to, but rewards utilization of the full arsenal
eternal was somewhere in the middle here, which i liked, it was better to use your full arsenal because of its different utility, but you also couldn't only rely on one gun

or you can actually for the most part rely on for example the ssg, but most people don't seem to realise that🤷‍♂️

[frail bloom]

Unless you're like me and main sticky bombs

Which was very annoying for 3 marauders

[wheat sigil]

never happened

[frail bloom]

Have you seen my message btw

[wheat sigil]

what message

[frail bloom]

Not at once, it's the taras nabad room where you fight one marauder and then 2

So one then two

[wheat sigil]

using only stickies for marauders is painn😭

[frail bloom]

You suggested it

[wheat sigil]

ah yeah

[frail bloom]

Remember, nerf myself during the taras nabad run

[wheat sigil]

i have never suggested that!

[frail bloom]

You said use only combat shotgun

For laughs ofc but I took it seriously

[wheat sigil]

i said that as a joke because it'd be a boring as hell challebge run😭

[frail bloom]

The team at ID will implement blocking while switching soon

[wheat sigil]

ohh, noice!!

[frail bloom]

And Hugo likes the idea of buffing a weapon switch after parrying

[wheat sigil]

good game design

i like good game design in my games

[slow zodiac]

my favorite challenge run for both doom 2016 and eternal was with no upgrades (for eternal I used weapon mods though)

[simple cedar]

Man yall hardcore, where my filthy casual brothers at 😭

[frail bloom]

Sorry

[wheat sigil]

at that point just hop on minecraft bow duels, there's no difference

[wheat sigil]

naw i'm also a casual

[simple cedar]

Btw is there like a ng+ or something, yknow that achievement to finish campaign on higher diff, can u like do that on a savefile u already finished 💀

[slow zodiac]

it was actually pretty fun for doom 2016 specifically because it made you utilize almost every weapon

[simple cedar]

So I can start the harder diff but with my dope ass weapons

[slow zodiac]

the dark ages was surprisingly easy to play with no upgrades

[frail bloom]

Ye without siege mode or double tap you jave to get creative

[wheat sigil]

there's no ng+

[slow zodiac]

the shield without upgrades brought me the most pain though

[simple cedar]

never played the other doom games but yeah i noticed it was alot of weapon switches in the playthrus, here i just used the super shotty and the chain thing

[frail bloom]

Well sure

But I also use ssg and ballista in eternal, beat SGN master level on UN

[slow zodiac]

yeah it's more about how you use your shield and melee in tandem with the gun

[frail bloom]

In this game it's intentional anyway

With the new balances, if you're creative, you can maybe implement melee, shield and 2 guns in a combat sentence

[uneven mortar]

Yeag, i meant just add it as a slider for simplicitys sake

[slow zodiac]

the only reason it's inconvenient to use only 2 weapons in eternal is the low ammo count

[wheat sigil]

i find it funny how alotta of the people saying you can't just spam 2 weapons in eternal almost only use ssg+ballista

[frail bloom]

Chaingun go brrrrr

[frail bloom]

Well that's not me

I fully spam

I'm a spammer

[wheat sigil]

nah
you can spam only the ssg without worrying a lot about ammo, if anything, but you wanna use your entire arsenal for higher DPS and the weapon's individual utility

[wheat sigil]

i know, just a general comment

[frail bloom]

But like M1 said, using your full arsenal in Eternal or chaining your comboes(and maybe guns) in tda is the way to optimally play

[slow zodiac]

I know I have 300 hours in eternal lol, it's just not as easy as in d2016 where you have 60 ammo for the shotgun

[uneven mortar]

I feel like some light incentive to swap weapons wouldn't have overcomplicated TDA at all

[frail bloom]

I said maybe bc hugo is considering the weapon switch buff after a parry

[uneven mortar]

You can make it useful without making it necessary to manage

[frail bloom]

So parrying feeds into faster play

[wheat sigil]

if you know, why'd you say the only reason it's inconvenient in eternal is the low ammo count😭

[frail bloom]

They might do that with parrying

[slow zodiac]

as I said, I'm comparing it to doom 2016 where you can spam ssg without even chainsawing anything

[frail bloom]

@compact hemlock terribly sorry for pinging. Were you the one who suggested a weapon switch buff after parrying? It's a very neat and cool idea and would incentivise higher play and feeding into the already established combat loop. You and Maniard or however it's spelled.

[uneven mortar]

2016 almost feels like 2/3 of a game compared to Eternal and TDA, as good as it is

[slow zodiac]

I think it was horde mode gaming but I could be wrong

[frail bloom]

No it was Devo and "Maniard" I'm not sure how to spell their name

Well I thought of it during launch

[slow zodiac]

oh yeah that was probably Maniard

[frail bloom]

But I don't care abt claiming ideas

At least someone mentioned it

I'm just happy Hugo is considering it

[frail bloom]

Ohhh c'mon it's a big great game

I think a playthrough of it is longer than eternal

100% of course

[uneven mortar]

Idk, going back to it, it feels like the interesting demons just start showing up as the game ends

Maybe that's the fault of the siege mode cannon tho

[frail bloom]

Hm

Eternal took me abt 5 hrs and 35 min with all secrets

I imagine 2016 taking longer

[slow zodiac]

I'd say that d2016 takes a while to ramp up compared to eternal or dark ages

[uneven mortar]

True, Eternal especially is NUTS from the very first level

Arachnotrons and stuff

[harsh egret]

i replay it from time to time and to me thats all it is, fun to replay once or twice per year for fun
the game doesnt amaze me rn, i used to love it but ive just loved every game after it more than the one before it so 2016 is just my good ol friend or smth idk lol

[frail bloom]

Lmao ye

The mystery behind it is so awesome

It's not lost yet bc we haven't explored the testaments to their fullest

I heard someone suggest that the Baalgar is the champion titan, what do you think abt that theory?
@hard thistle

[wheat sigil]

there isn't really a lot going on there i'd say
no real movement tools except monkey bars and double jumps, and only 2 weapons

[frail bloom]

I lost the comment sadly

[hard thistle]

We see the Great One's corpse in Titan's Realm at the beginning - it is substantially larger than the Baalgar, and has decomposed enough that it is a skeleton.

[frail bloom]

It's funny cuz he wrote 3 paragraphs abt it but forgot that simple detail

[uneven mortar]

Well yeah, but I don't really judge games primarily on movement

[frail bloom]

Poor guy

[slow zodiac]

I remember being completely unimpressed with earlier presentations of d2016 so I was expecting to not like it that much.
From the trailers it felt like a bit more combat focused doom 3 to me.
When it came out I was completely blown away, it was so much better than I expected

[uneven mortar]

Eternal's start always feels pretty high-pressure to me, at least compared to the sparsely paced fodderfest of 2016's opening

[frail bloom]

Ye that was not so fun.

The only game where you fight only one heavy type in the third level

It takes a while to ramp up for sure

[uneven mortar]

I fucking dread that desert area whenever i boot up 2016 ngl

[frail bloom]

Meanwhile you fight a cyberdemon in tda in the 4th level lol

And like half the roster in eternal by the 4th level lmao

(Of course you're capable of more)

[wheat sigil]

yea there's definitely pressure, with hoe being one of the hardest levels, but not a ton going on still

[slow zodiac]

yeah they started really putting a lot of thought into replay value after 2016

[uneven mortar]

I really hope they're saving archviles and pain elementals for TDA's DLC

[frail bloom]

Ye same

Gimme hitscan archie

[slow zodiac]

Hugo seemed to like fans' suggestions about adding them

[uneven mortar]

I really liked spirits and armored barons but they didn't blow me away with eternal dlc enemies

[harsh egret]

hugo seemed to like every suggestion he read out loud

[slow zodiac]

imagine if this time archvile would actually resurrect dead demons like he did in doom 2

[uneven mortar]

Is there a link or timestamp

[frail bloom]

Well Hugo seems to Hugo

[harsh egret]

nah just meant in general

[uneven mortar]

Ah

[slow zodiac]

lost souls seem to be very under utilized so it would be cool to see pain elemental return

[uneven mortar]

It's really stupid that cacodemon has that purple projectile. Just confusing for no reason

[harsh egret]

"this and this but also could but also this"
hugo: "that could be cool yeah"

i swear i heard this to everything

yk what i kinda feel like the caco is a bit awkward to fight sometimes

[slow zodiac]

I mean, they're going to add some AI in the dlc, so it's an obvious additions imo

[slow zodiac]

same

[uneven mortar]

They're putting grok in the dlc 💔

[slow zodiac]

you just wait until he finishes his attack, it's pretty boring

[harsh egret]

they had pleeenty ideas for new ai from the artbook, so i think they will do some completely new ai as well

hugo already said that the acolyte is taking the archvile's role

[uneven mortar]

I wish they'd add that enemy that sticks its arm into the ground and sticks it up elsewhere from the eternal concept art

[harsh egret]

so its kinda idk

theres hella stuff id like to see from the concepts

that huge pinky rider variant wouldve been cool

[slow zodiac]

there are some really neat cosmic realm version of the demons in the art book

[uneven mortar]

A few changes made in dark ages (replacing archvile and glory kills) felt like "if it aint broke, don't fix it" to me

[harsh egret]

yup cosmic realm fodder looked sick

not in the artbook i think but they showed it on artstation

[vast flax]

Is the berserker trophy still bugged on ps5?

[slow zodiac]

it's fixed

[half spindle]

I believe that they buffed skullcrasher or that people severely underestimate this weapon.

It is not bad at all.

[slow zodiac]

which one? the pulverizer or the ravager?

[half spindle]

Pulverizer. It can melt demons.

[lunar spire]

It can melt fodder and weaker heavies yeah but- it really needed a buff when you look at its competition in class

[serene wind]

yea raw charged pulverizer feels spretty weak vs super heavies, even keeping up the charge by meleeing

[digital dew]

I just started playing Doom the dark ages how is it so far?

[hollow sandal]

Yea, it is

[barren ember]

I've played through the entirety of dark ages right now 100%'ing the game (3 maps left) and i can say the game is more peak then ever

Probably my favourite out of all the trilogy

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1359874352367009873/1393660307779354726/2025-07-12_21-27-10.mp4?ex=6873face&is=6872a94e&hm=31e6f5f7a32f28e25a190f1da73b6cdd798af01abd45a371f9be23b281426550&

Super Shotgun is absolute peak in this game

I'm actually in love with this gun

[digital dew]

Thats fair

[harsh egret]

Especially on Karthul marshes in the encounter with the Agaddon hunter

I try to get rid of him fast and then he pulls up the purple attack and im like welp gotta dodge those while running from the agaddon hunter or dodging his projectiles

[foggy dust]

dude i hate ultranightmare on 130% speed

it's so weird but the dark ages ultranightmare is the hardest for me, i already beat 2016 and eternal ones and yet i always die for some absolutely stupid reason

[shell gull]

try using pincushion on the shredder then use ur shield toss and SSG shot at the same time

on smthin like a mancubus

[serene wind]

length of the game itself is a big part of it imo

[frail bloom]

Again, even if there's slo mo you can:

•Move around
•Look around
•Lasts a second individually

I agree, they could've had glory kills and the melee system

Maybe 4 per demon from top sides

But the melee system itself was for the better

Imagine that hell knight room and doing glorykills

the horror

[frail bloom]

Ye he would resurrect weaker ghost variants of enemies from body parts(akin to davoth arena), have a powerful hitscan attack that lights your screen, you can't shield bash him or shield throw to stunlock

[foggy breach]

Wished the cheat codes came back.

[frail bloom]

He would also be pretty beefy

And have low falter chance

Basically a pain

[graceful lion]

GKs would make tda slower, for sure

[umbral flint]

Is the game worth 70$ or should i wait until a sale?

[serene wind]

worth it

[dire prism]

does the skull crusher pulverizer not have a gold weapon skin?

nvm im stupid

apparently i didnt finish the challenge lol

couldve swore i did

finished it, nice

now to platinum the entire game again on ps5

(it feels so repetitive after playing the game once) :/

[frail bloom]

Well just wait a couple days and then play again when you're ready

Where did the whole repetetive thing come from no one said this abt eternal

And I know not many of us at all played battlemode

Am I lost or smt

[frail bloom]

If you're a doom fan, yes. But there might be a sale during quakecon plus a lot of free content

[dire prism]

its been like nearly a month and a half lol

[frail bloom]

...

Ye I guess you're busy

My fault

[dire prism]

nah just meh

no worries, it just feels like a nuisance doing it all over again

[frail bloom]

Uh I guess wait till quakecon

They'll drop some more tunables and some master levels

[dire prism]

lmao bet

so they actually are doing master levels?

[frail bloom]

Yup

[dire prism]

noice

im surprised john romero's company was hit but not id software

at least from what im aware of

[frail bloom]

Doom is a cash cow

[dire prism]

for sure

[frail bloom]

Gotta keep ID

[dire prism]

yee

although id say its quite disrespectful to romero's legacy

him and carmack basically created doom

[frail bloom]

Well no one is arguing against that

[dire prism]

for sure

[frail bloom]

Microsoft being microsoft

[dire prism]

def

i mean also its not like there were many xbox titles that were GOOD in the first place but yea

besides dark ages

[frail bloom]

Ye Doom's day will come

[dire prism]

and oblivion remastered

[frail bloom]

But not now

[dire prism]

it took me a second to register what you said lmao

[frail bloom]

Ye happens sometimes

[dire prism]

got my brain thrown off

[frail bloom]

Mhm

[dire prism]

for sure. I wish we got a Quake 1 remake

like in ue5

[frail bloom]

Probably harder to do than a doom remake

[dire prism]

similar to vkquake but also for consoles

[frail bloom]

Not ID tech?

[dire prism]

ykw fair

q1 in id tech 8 would be amazing

[frail bloom]

For sure

[dire prism]

and maybe that quake 4 stroggification scene would be cool to see in idtech 8

[half spindle]

Dunno, melts tyrants quickly at 120% speed.

[lunar spire]

try the ravager. It's better. trust.

[half spindle]

I know it’s better.

It’s just that pulveriser is also not bad.

And I dig yellow skulls more.

[lunar spire]

That's super fair :)

[short mountain]

guys what rune deals the most damage

like straight up dps

[serene wind]

the swarm with the daggers

[short mountain]

thank you brother

[umbral flint]

Ok ty

[umbral flint]

Thanks

[frank turtle]

i want slo mo slider

[dark thunder]

"seeking vengeance against the dark lords who wronged him" I'm like 100% sure they were the dark lords that commanded the hell army when they invaded his earth

it's gonna be personal in the dlc

[sonic turret]

So we never heard the answer to the question that Hugo asked you, what was it?

[cold patio]

i'm hitting 99% gpu usage, i'm using 566.36 nvidia driver version, temps are fine 65-70C for cpu and 70-75 for gpu, so in safe range, anyone would recommend good driver instead of 566.36

[brisk grotto]

jesus christ

idk what to tell ya

im on my dads work laptop

thats all i can say

-# whatever you ask, most of the time my answer will be "idk"

[cold patio]

np, i'll do little search about what people saying for latest versions, when i make up my mind will use DDU and get newer version, probably will fix this 99% usage

[brisk grotto]

ok then

[cold patio]

update: 576.80 seems to work fine and gave me about 15% performance boost, or at least stable frames after doing clean installation and setting up 576

[tired nimbus]

im curious, how do you get the gold skins for the atlan, serrat and doom slayer?

[subtle wyvern]

I think ultra nightmare? Should say in game

[tired nimbus]

I’ll check later, thanks tho!

[left badge]

It's by finishing the campaign on Ultra Nightmare, yes.

[tired nimbus]

and that’s the one life mode correct?

[left badge]

Yeah

Once you've finished the campaign, a screen with pop up saying Ultra Nightmare completion showing the gold skin unlock, I've done it myself so I can send you my image so you know what it looks like?

[merry sapphire]

i miss the old slayer's club

[merry sapphire]

you just wanna show off your achievement LMAO

Cant lie i'd do the same LOL

[left badge]

OH I didn't mean it like that my bad

[tired nimbus]

No it’s all good

I’m wondering, what’s the best relic for shield in TDA?

Personally, the lighting one is so great against revenants and ad control

but I want to see whether there’s a better one for my nightmare run

[rocky badger]

I believe you can cheese it. Set difficulty to UN then make all the sliders easy. Your save file will get an (M*) showing that it has been modified. But you still get the skin - I think

I think that's pretty lame, but then I'll get attacked by people that it's a single player game and it does not matter

[rocky badger]

I like the Heaven Splitter but people will claim that they all have their uses. The Fissure one is currently bugged if used with the Mace where you basically have unlimited melee.

[hasty stone]

I think they're gonna add more save slots

Someone mentioned it on stream and Hugo agreed

Hopefully 2 or 3 more

[uneven mortar]

Yay

I hope one day we get a gameplay successor to Doom Eternal with the quality of post-launch support TDA seems to be getting

[dreamy kiln]

And the graphics of 2016 right?

[graceful lion]

preferably higher fidelity graphics as that seems to be what id does every doom game

[dreamy kiln]

I mean like the lighting and such

[graceful lion]

tda definitely had the best lighting out of any doom game by far

so you just want the style to be dark and shit

[dreamy kiln]

Yes, it brings out the nature of there series more imo

[uneven mortar]

If you mean the art direction... idk. 2016 had some really amazing art direction but on revisits its so much plain UAC

[dreamy kiln]

Not really no

[uneven mortar]

I think TDA has the best art in the series

I'd like to see something similar to TDA but with a more explicitly sci-fi setting, but more alien planets than military bases

[dreamy kiln]

Better than eternal's and a little better than 2016's

[uneven mortar]

Eternal feels a bit like it was cobbled together and changed a lot throughout development, which made it into an amazing game but the art direction feels a little weird at times

[dreamy kiln]

I think it just feels a little too... not scary

[uneven mortar]

I can understand that

[hasty stone]

Eternal is basically doom-arcade

With the style and color

But that was the theme of it

And battle mode should've not existed, they could have done way more singleplayer stuff

[graceful lion]

well, doom wasnt really made to be a horror game

[uneven mortar]

The fumbling of doom eternal's post-launch makes me wanna cry

[hasty stone]

Doom 3 enters the CHAT

[dreamy kiln]

I love doom 3

[hasty stone]

Eternals post launch sucked

Just some master levels

And I hated the DLC

It felt mindless

[wheat sigil]

tag1 was awesome

[uneven mortar]

I liked the DLC, especially tag1 but it felt a bit rushed to me.

[dreamy kiln]

I think they made better choices for tda

[hasty stone]

Tag1 every battle was like 10 minutes long lol

[wheat sigil]

tag1 had 7 months of development and tag2 5 months, due to the 1 year time limitation

[uneven mortar]

Tag1 felt like the true finale to the game mechanically

Tag2 felt like some interesting bonus levels, plus a horrible boss fight

[wheat sigil]

not at all lol, but there were more enemies compared to the base game, which makes sense

[subtle wyvern]

Im still trying to get the battlemode achievements on eternal lol

[hasty stone]

The battle mode music was cool as fuck though

[uneven mortar]

Battlemode was so ass, I wonder if bethesda forced them to include it

[hasty stone]

I hope TDA gets more weapon skins

[uneven mortar]

Yea

[wheat sigil]

very weird choice to make the final dlc the easiest campaign lmao

[uneven mortar]

Yeah

[sonic turret]

You mean every arena battle or every boss battle? How long would you expect them to last?

[merry sapphire]

ik im just Joshin

[merry sapphire]

battlemode was so Peak

[left badge]

It's all good man dont worry

[half spindle]

It can’t feel mindless since you need to think quickly in each encounter (decide for which demon you should go first, eliminate most important threats, be constantly on a move e.t.c.) and act the same way. Perhaps it was a bit harder for you dk.

[short mountain]

tag had really good concepts they just didn’t have enough time

they ended up making tag1 a tad too hard so tag2 is easier than it

and the enemies in tag2 while most decent in gameplay are recolored og enemies

[wheat sigil]

they even made tag2 easier than the base campaign

and they should've added less demons in tag2, because now all of them are suffering from being buggy, reskins, and not fitting into the gameplay

anyways, i'm getting on the dark ages grind today is my plan

[serene wind]

what question is that?

[sonic turret]

I think he asked two, one was about how you pronounce your name; MM Afro or MMA Fro, and the second was whether or not you do MMA.

Or at least I didn't see the answers.

[serene wind]

ah yea i've answered it but they didn't catch it: i boxed and kickboxed irl, MMA is in the name cause of the UFC games way back when

[merry sapphire]

ultra nightmare really does get ALOT easier after you get the dreadmace

such an overpowered weapon especially when you combine it with ground fissure

4 more levels 🙏 🙏 @west bloom

[split gate]

Tbh, while I see the direction they were aiming for, I wouldn’t say the art direction was more closer to the classics in terms of atmosphere and colour. Playing Doom 1 again, it did feel darker, which I feel 2016 and TDA was more closer to

Doom 1 and Doom 2 had a constant array of colour shades? used to colour its levels. Eternal had more variety

[tender urchin]

Is there any particular guns I should look to upgrade first or just whatever I enjoy using?

[lyric igloo]

if yah want to roll on the game : Impaler

[short mountain]

battlemode is really fun its just unbalanced

[subtle wyvern]

The concept of battlemode is fun, I agree. Yeah, when I was playing it always felt one-sided

[left badge]

The Impaler is the best way to go, high damage and the empowered upgrade is easy to proc.

[half spindle]

I’d say it is between impaler and the chainshot.

If you always land headshots than impaler for sure.

But chainshot rivals his power, apart from that it has armorstrip.

And aoe explosion.

[tender urchin]

Thanks folks!

[left badge]

The parry upgrade being the first one is really good to for the chainshot

My main guns were the SSG, Impaler, Rocket and Chainshot

[west bloom]

keep going twin

[left badge]

You've got it

[harsh egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1393977172909363340/colin-geller-cg-dtda-bfg-v1-00-bfx-pass.jpg?ex=687521e8&is=6873d068&hm=cd6e322195dbab00093db4cedff78c6e627c14e4bb7c9d07c391992f547ff310&

some concepts for how the cosmic realm bfg wouldve looked like from first person

imo this is waaay cooler than the bfc, respectfully xd