the-dark-ages

[cinder estuary]

TDA accelerator has crazy SFX

Eternal is the wimpiest plasma gun

TDA also has imho the best ssg ever

Only thing close isnthe og ssg

It just feels so fucking powerful

[dapper lark]

But eternal has the meet hook

[cinder estuary]

Yeah but the ssg itself doesnt sound like fucking crackling thunder

[dapper lark]

Tda has the Terminator reload too

[cinder estuary]

Yes, +1000000 social credit

[dapper lark]

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-credit-social-уважение-плюс-уважение-gif-1626328442317885176

[split gate]

“Kitchen in the dungeon” 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[cinder estuary]

Eternal ssg is carried by the hook. Literally

[split gate]

I agree with this, without the meathook, the SSG in Eternal is underwhelming

[dapper lark]

Carbon copy from 2016

[split gate]

2016’s SSG was full power though, something I feel Eternal’s lacked

[dapper lark]

I feel like more people use the eternal ssg for movement

Especially with the weapon wheel glitch

[split gate]

That is generally the case

[whole mural]

Meat hook mid

Brutal d64 and d64 CE have good ssg reloads

Brutal d64 has a crazy ssg shooting sound

[astral tundra]

I restarted a mission and it reset my progress for all my other previous mission saves. Please tell me I'm not the only one

Im actually about to lose it. Do Bethesda or ID even acknowledge this issue. They're support website gives me zero confidence.

[whole mural]

Did you restart the game

[astral tundra]

Yes

[whole mural]

No idea then

[astral tundra]

Well I hope someone sees this who can do something because I straight up don't want to play the game now

[spice idol]

how to kill hell guards quick doom 2016

[merry sapphire]

you shoot them quick

[proud cloud]

Do the bfg weapon wheel glitch

As soon as you shoot the bfg the tendril will connect to the hell guard as soon as it's connected open the weapon wheel it will drain the boss's health very quickly

[spice idol]

thanks

[full barn]

wish they gave us more save slots lowkey

[full barn]

theres a brutal mod for 64?

[whole mural]

Yeah

[full barn]

nice

[full barn]

like bro i dont wanna delete my 100% save, nor my ongoing un save, nor my pandemonium save

i mean i alr have the golden skin i might just delete the un one

idk

[fathom remnant]

So one annoyance I have found is that if you're replaying a level to go back and get all the stuff you are locked into that level. Otherwise you'll have to restart the whole level there isn't any continue game to pick up where you left off. Like I wanna be able to stop a level and not loose my progress if I feel like playing another game and come back to where I left off.

Eternal had that system and it was well done lol

So if you're planning on going back to levels to 100% them then you better lock in like it's a master level and go til you get the last item or challenge you need.

[oak temple]

Agreed. Also the Shield > Meathook

[neon perch]

Never speak again.

[whole mural]

Meathook was mid

Gun was weak

2016 and dark ages are far better

[neon perch]

The SSG in Eternal can one-shot stagger Revenants and 2-shot heavies up close.

[whole mural]

Don’t care

Gun sounded weak as piss

[neon perch]

Yeah but it wasn't weak.

[whole mural]

Yes it was

[neon perch]

I literally explained why it wasn't.

[whole mural]

It’s weak

[neon perch]

Oh okay you're trolling.

[whole mural]

Nope

Genuinely the worst one out of the three

Double tap on 2016 was peak and dark ages one just erases whatever it’s pointing at

[neon perch]

That title would go to the 2016 one. DT is the only thing keeping it from being worse than both TDA and Eternal combined.

[whole mural]

Even if it didn’t have double tap it’s still better than eternals

[neon perch]

The Eternal one starts out with multi target pen, more pellets and better higher DPS.

The one in 2016 has to be upgraded to have pen. It is by default weaker with no upgrades.

[whole mural]

No it’s not

The pen doest even matter unless your shooting a group of imps

[neon perch]

Now that you admitted to not be trolling I'm just going to have a field day with you.

[whole mural]

Your not making a point you know

Eternal ssg sucks and I’m standing on it

[neon perch]

It does because it's required for the DT mastery in 2016.

How do you forget that?

[whole mural]

It’s kill multiple demons in 1 shot, last time I checked shotguns have spread lol

The spread on 2016s ssg is quite horizontal

[neon perch]

Irrelevant, this is about pen not spread.

[whole mural]

It’s easy to kill 2 zombies without pen lol

Maybe don’t stand right next to one

[neon perch]

Zombies will appear in swarms and not 1-2 at a time, if you have to sidestep them each time to line up the shot and do trial and error every time it's a shitty shotgun. Even the classic shotgun had blowthrough.

[whole mural]

Trial and error? I think not. There’s a spot where you can get the mastery in a few minutes with only a few zombies

[neon perch]

And you didn't need precision. The one in Eternal doesn't require you to pussyfoot around the zombies either because it's a flatout better shotgun starting out.

Also, the 2016 SSG deals 960 damage. The Eternal one does 1600.

[whole mural]

Ok? Doesn’t change it being mid

[neon perch]

You could've at least lied and pretended to be trolling, now you just look unintelligent.

Learn to save face when it benefits you.

[whole mural]

How is having a opinion on a gun in a fictional game being mid me being “unintelligent”

[neon perch]

That's not an opinion lol it's a lie.

[whole mural]

I’ll strait up say this too, bfg in 2016 and eternal are mid compared to bfc

[whole mural]

It’s a opinion lol

[neon perch]

The gun isn't mid. It's demostrably better than the one in 2016 without the mastery, still trumped by the TDA one but it's a better weapon all around filling the same purpose.

[whole mural]

You can glaze it all you like, it’s mid and garbage

[neon perch]

The gun or your 'opinion'?

[whole mural]

The gun, nice try at a twitter comeback btw

I can almost see the fedora

[neon perch]

I'm not even trying to glaze it, I just jumped at the free chance to prove you wrong. And you have no rebuttal.

[whole mural]

Your not proving anything wrong though

It’s a opinion

[neon perch]

it's the exact same gun as the 2016 one but does more damage
nuh uh

[whole mural]

It’s mid and your clearly upset I said it

[neon perch]

'You're clearly upset' if you say it enough times you might get it to happen.

[whole mural]

Keep typing

[neon perch]

My shoelaces?

[whole mural]

It’s mid and your not changing it

[edgy stone]

bro what is MID

[neon perch]

Doesn't need to be changed, I think it already does better than you think it does.

[whole mural]

Eternal super shotgun

[edgy stone]

ETERNAL UIS THE BEST DOOM GAME EVER

[whole mural]

He’s having a meltdown over my opinion that the eternals ssg is mid

[neon perch]

I KNOW RIGHT.

[edgy stone]

SO ZIP IT

[neon perch]

YEAH HE SHOULD ZIP IT.

[whole mural]

The glaze is unreal

Eternal itself is the worst of the 3 lol

[edgy stone]

BROW WE AINT GLAZING ITS JUST A GOOD GAME

[whole mural]

It’s mid

[edgy stone]

HOWS IT BAD

[neon perch]

STAY MAD.

[edgy stone]

BRO HOWS ETERNAL MID WHEN IT IS THE MOST WELL PACED DOOM GAME

[whole mural]

Graphics look mid, soundtrack is ass, guns sound ass, levels are repetitive and the glory kills are boring

[edgy stone]

OH NAH BRO SAID SOUNDTRAK IS ASS

[whole mural]

It is lol

[edgy stone]

NOW BROS RAGBAITING

[whole mural]

Mick never got to finish it

Mixing is ass

Sounds terrible compared to 2016 and dark ages

[edgy stone]

HOW DO GRAPHICS EVEN LOOK MID WHEN THEY ARE BASICALY THE SAME AS 2016 WITH BETTER LIGHTING

[whole mural]

If mick got to finish his own music it would be decent

[whole mural]

Eternal is not 2016 graphics lol

Eternal is literally closer to Fortnite

Cartoonish arcade looking ahh

[minor pier]

I don’t have doom in Fortnite

it confounds me

[edgy stone]

BRO MAKING NO SENSE

[whole mural]

The graphics on 2016 look far better than eternals

[edgy stone]

DOOM ETERNAL IS WAY BETTER THAN DARK AGES THO

[wheat sigil]

are you talking about artstyle?

[whole mural]

Graphics/artstyle yeah

Eternal looks cartoonish

[edgy stone]

BRO PLAYS DOOM DRUNK

[split gate]

Subjective

[neon perch]

I love it when people fail to realize graphic fidelity, atmosphere and art direction are three different things.

[minor pier]

Do NOT diss my beloved doom eternal (please)

[edgy stone]

BRO ISTS APOSE TO BE CARTOON CUS ITS A STYEL

[whole mural]

Maybe playing eternals drunk would make it good

[wheat sigil]

copy pastee
i believe criticism of eternal's designs as “goofy” or “cartoonish” sorta ignores the purpose behind their aesthetic, and dismisses the quality they have. these designs improve readability, providing clear visual feedback that enhances combat flow. they also draw stronger inspiration from classic DOOM enemies compared to 2016. i have played mods for eternal which reshape it into a darker game with dark demon designs too, and it's quite frustrating to play, due to limited feedback and readability.

[edgy stone]

ITS A FACT LOL

[minor pier]

Did you just have this saved somewhere to use in an argument

[wheat sigil]

no, i searched for it

i've sent the same thing here before so i searched for the word "dismisses"

[whole mural]

I took all the art into account and still think it looks cartoonish, it’s missing the kinda textures 2016 had and I can’t unsee it

[edgy stone]

DO NOT HATE ON MY ETERNAL

[whole mural]

Go away kid

[thin zinc]

i wont hate on any doom games. all are great.

[whole mural]

Turn your caps lock off

[edgy stone]

MY KEYBAORD IS BORKEN

[split gate]

It’s not, I’m not saying one is better than the other, I’m just saying one game being better than the other is not a fact, especially considering that all three games have intended directions

[whole mural]

Nice

[edgy stone]

BROKEN

[minor pier]

My least favorite doom is doom 3

[whole mural]

Classics are better than modern

People forget opinions exist

[thin zinc]

yeah doom 3 by far is my least favorite.

[minor pier]

Not really

[edgy stone]

DOOM THE DARK AGES IS JUST BORNING BEING RESPECTFULY

[whole mural]

Cry us a river because there’s no meathook lol

[minor pier]

Why do you keep yelling

[wheat sigil]

broken keyboard

[minor pier]

Oh

[neon perch]

People can speak their mind about opinions, yours just happen to be very questionable and presented in the worst way possible.

[edgy stone]

MY KEYBOARD IS BROKEN

[minor pier]

Most aggressive explanation

[split gate]

Okay cool I disagree, but each to their own, I’m happy you like the other games

[edgy stone]

U MESS WITH DOOM ETERNAL U MESS WITH ALL OF US

[whole mural]

Me saying something is mid isn’t “presented in the worst way possible” there’s no bad way to say something is mid, mid is mid and there’s no wrong way of calling something mid

[neon perch]

Judging by your dismissal of the Eternal SSG being better than you give it credit for, you're also flatout wrong on some accounts.

[whole mural]

It’s mid

[thin zinc]

i know doom fans who dont love eternal. it was too much for some people

[whole mural]

Eternal ssg is mid

[thin zinc]

i love it

[whole mural]

See this is a opinion

I accept his opinion

[edgy stone]

DOOM ETERNAL IS A MASTERPEIECE

[wheat sigil]

how come?

[minor pier]

I love doom eternal but i suck really bad at it so the boss fights take forever

[whole mural]

I don’t like how it sounds

It sounds weak

[split gate]

I think it’s a masterpiece too

[wheat sigil]

i feel like that's quite a nitpick

[whole mural]

It’s called a opinion

[thin zinc]

i think eternal is a total masterpiece, but i get why it's too complex for some people. so much to keep up with

[whole mural]

Day 1 I thought it was mid

[neon perch]

You also said it was weak and I proved to you it wasn't and casually moved on from it lol.

[minor pier]

should I play doom 2016?? I’ve been lowk procrastinating

[whole mural]

It is weak

[edgy stone]

ITS BETTER THAN 2016 NGL 2016 IS OVERGLAZED A LITTLE BIT

[wheat sigil]

and weighing up against other aspects of the gun would probably make it good

[thin zinc]

100% yes.

[wheat sigil]

eternal's ssg is by no means weak, lol

[neon perch]

This isn't an opinion based on reality. You're flatout delusional whether you like it or not and that's how you come across saying this lol.

[gentle isle]

hello guys, i have a problem. If i start doom the dark ages on the xbox game pass i only get the sound and no picture of the game. Any solutions?

[minor pier]

I have like 2 other doom games I need to finish

[edgy stone]

YEAH THROW UR XBOX IN THE TRASH AND GET A PC

[thin zinc]

i haven't heard of that. i played it on gamepass on xbox console. no issues.

[whole mural]

delusiona

[gentle isle]

i have the pc game pass

[whole mural]

Eternal ssg = mid

[neon perch]

Minor spelling mistake :(.

[wheat sigil]

why do you think it's weak?

[split gate]

I also think it’s better than 2016 but I see more Eternal glaze than 2016 nowadays bro

[whole mural]

Sounds weak

[edgy stone]

GOOD

[whole mural]

Doesn’t make demons flinch as much as 2016s did

[wheat sigil]

that doesn't mean it's weak xd

[whole mural]

Doesn’t matter

[minor pier]

Restart the Xbox and it kinda depends are you playing on cloud gaming

[whole mural]

It lacks boom

[edgy stone]

AS A ETERNAL FAN I THINK ITS OVERGLAZED A LITTLE BIT TO MUCH NOW

[neon perch]

Kek this guy is off his rocker.

[wheat sigil]

it literally falters demon by pure damage

[whole mural]

Falters and flinches are 2 different things btw

[neon perch]

'It doesn't make demons flinch' in a game that's built around making enemies flinch. With a whopping 1900 DMG.

[split gate]

Eternal or 2016 bro?

[edgy stone]

ETERNAL

[whole mural]

1900 damage of mid

[split gate]

Yeah true

[edgy stone]

I LOVE IT BUT FANS WILL DEFEND IT WITH THEIR LIFE NOW

[neon perch]

😆

[wheat sigil]

true, and a falter is much more significant as they literally interrupt their attacks and makes them stumble

[neon perch]

This is satisfying as shit, just in time as I finished my 6th run of DE.

[minor pier]

6th?😪

I haven’t finished it yet

[whole mural]

Again I’m not talking about faltering

[neon perch]

Well being that the only thing 2016 has going for it anymore is the art direction and maybe the story being a little less involved than the later games, people will latch to that til the end of times. The sun will become a red dwarf and people will still be mouthing off about muh griddy and atmospheric.

[wheat sigil]

so you want the make the eternal ssg weaker to mimic the 2016 one?

[split gate]

Yep, I wish we had that while Eternal was at its peak back then with all the discussion with the game’s combat, now we have more of them ever over TDA, which doesn’t deserve the hate it gets imo

[whole mural]

No, make it sound more boom and it would be better

[neon perch]

There's mods for that. I'm playing with a beefier SFX mod and it's gucci.

[whole mural]

The only gun sound I thought was cool was the plasma gun

[whole mural]

Shouldnt have to download mods to make the super shotgun sound like a super shotgun

[split gate]

This facts tho

[wheat sigil]

you were complaining about how it doesn't make enemies flinch
i explained how it does more than that: falters
you go on a tangent about sound?

[neon perch]

Shouldn't have to upgrade the super shotgun to do the damage a super shotgun should, but it's what we got.

[whole mural]

Again, flinching and falter are 2 different things

[wheat sigil]

precisely my point

do you want it to be wayy weaker by making enemies flinch instead?

[whole mural]

When did I say that

Now your just making stuff up

When it doesn’t falter in 1 shot it doesn’t flinch either

[wheat sigil]

i didn't say you said that, you're the one making stuff up
i only asked a question

[neon perch]

@wheat sigil You're gonna have to phone Caillou to help explain basic concepts to this dude who is totally not trolling.

[whole mural]

You can’t understand the words “my opinion is that eternals ssg is mid” and went on a rant about shit that doesn’t matter lol

Explaining damage output doesn’t change my opinion that it’s mid

[neon perch]

I love seeing things like this because it straight up proves the understated point that people make up shit about Eternal and then cower when asked to elaborate or simply go 'uhhhh have you heard of opinions duh huh'.

It makes me feel validated.

I didn't need that, but I guess it's nice.

[whole mural]

Feeling validated about eternal is top 5 cringiest things I’ve seen

[neon perch]

That's what I mean, 2016 is dead and TDA is almost on life support a month after release due to a lack of post-game content whereas DE has official mod support and hundreds of mods. That's why I said I didn't need validation but you gave it to me anyways lol.

[whole mural]

Also for your information mid doesn’t mean bad

Just wanted to point that out btw

[neon perch]

I see, you're running out of energy to continue.

[wheat sigil]

what do you mean?

[whole mural]

In 2016 if you shot a demon with a super shotgun you could see the pellets physically make the demon flinch, I didn’t notice that in eternal

I should have said that sooner

[neon perch]

Yawn

[split gate]

I wish they focused more with the post game content as they’re not focusing on multiplayer, I was disappointed to see no master levels or horde mode at launch

Even Eternal had Cultist Base master level at launch I think

[whole mural]

Mars core master level better

[neon perch]

HM would've been a welcome addition. They also said something about bringing back classic levels but nothing came of it.

2016's were a neat novelty for all of 5 minutes before realizing they played like ass with the way the new enemies were balanced.

[split gate]

We’ll have to wait again 👀, but UN’s gonna keep me busy at least

The campaign’s super fun to replay

[neon perch]

I'm halfway through pandemonium and ready to drop the game because it's just not grabbing me the way Eternal does. Combat's great, but I need more reasons to replay the game other than self-imposed challenges.

At least I'm halfway through the campaign, 2016 on the other hand is the only nuDoom game I can't go back to. It just loses me after Kadingir.

[split gate]

Oh I feel the opposite, during the second playthrough, I understood what they meant with the fun zone this time and it got me hooked like Eternal

[split gate]

That’s how I generally feel with 2016 too

But for TDA, I don’t feel like replaying individual levels but just the campaign all together, I’m enjoying it’s replayability more

I prefer 2016’s aesthetic tho over the other two

[whole mural]

Classics are great for replayability

I can play doom 1/2 4 times in a row all with different gameplay

[split gate]

Yeah I have an itch to play them all over again

[whole mural]

We go base game, project brutality, sneaky doom and then brutal doom

All different

[neon perch]

Hideous Destructor is the only Doom mod.

[neon gust]

what do you mean TDA is on life support

[neon perch]

Post-game content wise.

Low player numbers.

[neon gust]

Yeah true there isn't a lot to do in the post game

but isn't that most Doom games

[whole mural]

Yes lol

[neon gust]

like I'm genuinely not understanding what you mean

[whole mural]

Doom eternal ran out of content after horde mode 2.0 and hasn’t got anything big since

[neon gust]

what Doom game has actual post game content

[whole mural]

2016 because multiplayer

Actual multiplayer

Not the 2 demon 1 slayer bs in eternal

[neon gust]

okay maybe I'm stupid but I don't count that as post-game content

multiplayer is available from the get-go

[split gate]

Is multiplayer post game content? Or post campaign content

[neon gust]

granted, I would've liked TDA to have some sort of multiplayer

but I do believe TDA is good as is

[whole mural]

People probably played the campaign first then did everything else after

[neon gust]

I don't get why Papaya says it's on "life support"

and besides I'm having a blast with my pandemonium runs

[whole mural]

It’s not

[split gate]

Eternal was in a similar situation even with battlemode

[whole mural]

Same with classic dooms, after you beat base game there’s almost a infinite amount of mods to change it to be different and more replay able than it already is

[split gate]

The DLC’s were what everyone was excited about the most

[whole mural]

Fqcts

Even though they were short

Blood swamps and immora easily the best 2

[split gate]

The first time Blood Swamps experience was incredible for me, the increase in challenge 🤌

[neon perch]

As of now? Eternal, the one with official mod support.

2016 doesn't even get that despite having a 'mapping' tool and a multiplayer that's apparently so good no one plays it.

It's puzzling to say the least.

[neon gust]

wait do you have to beat the campaign once to install mods in Eternal

[split gate]

But didn’t that come until a lot later tho 🤔, maybe TDA will get something like it in the future

[neon perch]

As
of
now

[split gate]

I’m blind as a bat

[neon gust]

idk I do think it's kind of harsh to ask for the devs to implement mod support right out the bat for TDA

[split gate]

But in terms of the release time I mean

[neon gust]

we should be fair and wait some time before we can truly say the game is "on life support"

[split gate]

Yeah I think the same

[neon gust]

with that said I'll check SteamDB for player count

[split gate]

When the DLC pops up, the game is back

[neon gust]

well I'll be damned, Eternal did have a LOT of players on release

I guess TDA isn't nearly as popular, for shame because it is my favorite Doom game so far

[whole mural]

Not everyone has a pc with ray tracing

[neon gust]

Damn that's also true

I forgot about the mandatory rtx

[whole mural]

You could make eternal look like ps1 graphics and run it on a school laptop

[neon gust]

I guess that's part of why the game's doing rather poorly

[whole mural]

That’s why it had more players on release

It didn’t need a decent pc to run

[whole mural]

Game looks phenomenal though

[neon gust]

it does!

[whole mural]

Mandatory ray tracing isn’t that bad

Remember how Sony blocked 180+ country’s from playing helldivers for no real reason

[neon gust]

Oh my god true

but like this wasn't understandable ever

because allegedly rtx sped up development a lot

[whole mural]

It is a pretty good company with good hardware to back it up

If all the devs were on top of the range nivida pcs, making dark ages on them probably did speed it up

Computers do have a limit on what they can render, remember how the devastator model for transformers 2 crashed all the pcs because of how complex the cgi was

[hasty stone]

Dark ages wasn't possible without Ray tracing

Lead engine dev said if they made it like eternal if would've taken double the amount of time

[neon perch]

They ran it back. HD2 is still a better GAAS than any other competitor out there.

[whole mural]

i know they did

xbox has fucked sony up with that new handheld they revealed

no ones going to buy a ps6 if a xbox has access to steam

[neon perch]

It was cancelled.

It was also an Xbox branded ROG Ally and those already outsell Xbox 5:1.

Lol.

[whole mural]

https://www.xbox.com/en-US/handhelds/rog-xbox-ally

doesnt look cancelled to me

[neon perch]

Oh nice. I was mistaken then.

[whole mural]

i was going to say

the hype was crazy

if they cancelled it no one would ever like xbox again

[neon perch]

It's still not really an Xbox in anything other than branding. It's running Windows 11.

[whole mural]

fuck windows 11

[neon perch]

It's just an Ally.

[whole mural]

it says its designed like a xbox and has that overlay look too

the controls i mean

id rather get a steamdeck anyway, if rog is running windows 11

[neon perch]

Cool, it's still a rebranded Ally.

I'm going to kick back and watch as as console warriors start arguing over sales again when they didn't matter when PS5 was smashing Xbox 7:1.

[whole mural]

ps5 had a terrible launch

cant deny that

my uncles pre ordered one was delayed over 7 months

[neon perch]

It did and it also has a horrid catalogue, but when the games are good they are huge.

[whole mural]

last of us 10 times*

[neon perch]

Nintendo is the one that's kind of become a joke.

[whole mural]

id still get a switch 2 because it does run games better

but that can wait

its not a need

the switch and switch 2 glaze cant be real

the nintendo 3ds was glaze worthy

so many good games

[frank turtle]

3ds is awesome

[split gate]

The Silksong machine, the Silksong machine is real 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[neon perch]

I just had heaven splitter not trigger on a Whiplash projectile parry. Pretty fucking epic if you ask me.

Why are Whiplashes such dogshit.

If I parry your fucking projectile don't slither away you asshole.

[split gate]

as well as trying to stun them with the shield and they still hit you before the stun registers

this ain't good for UN

[gleaming swallow]

TDA Slayer has the best looking visor on his helmet out of the others

Then again he also has the best looking suit aswell

[vestal dagger]

I feel like that’ll be Microsoft’s long term approach for ‘Xbox’ hardware in general. I doubt this experiment was done all for just handhelds. I think it’s a smart move for them.

If Microsoft bankrolling AMD for custom SOCs works well and they optimise the scales of hardware production they could have some decent value stuff. And having KB+M Doom on an ‘Xbox’ would be nice (via Steam).

[vital rapids]

Never had any complaint about these. The kids love them. I often use one to play Doom on the couch

[whole mural]

theres nothing to really complain about

both switches are made to last and controllers are not expensive

i got a pair of genuine nintendo controllers just so i wasnt using my limited edition ones and it was 80 AUD for a genuine pair

[vital rapids]

New one has mouses integrated, which is bigger than people realise for those of us who mostly play FPS on PCs and struggle with fully 3d shooters on sticks. Every console shooter becomes playable and fun

[vital rapids]

Yeah, I also have the licensed hori left controller with the d pad for my genesis, snes, gba games and it was like 10 bucks

No gyro etc, purely for retro games 👌🏻

[whole mural]

thats another thing

they have emulators for all the old games and its just the old game

no new updates, graphics or gimmicks

legit the game as it was 30 years ago

mario 3 is the best classic mario game

[vital rapids]

There has always been the Nintendo tax, though. Second mortgage for first party games, etc but yeah. I don't mind paying money for something that does the exact job it is for as promised

[whole mural]

nintendo does a good job of preserving old games

[vital rapids]

It's a struggle not to bait and say bs eternal is the best Mario game

[whole mural]

super mario galaxy is the best mariogame

i will not hear otherwise

[vital rapids]

I think it's owed in large part to the retro handheld community that they recognise the need for it tbh

[vital rapids]

Based. One of my kids occupies this hill, too
Me I love the old 2d classics

I really hope we get DTDA on the NS2. With it having mouse control, any objections I would have are dead

[whole mural]

some of the 2d ones are great

mario 3 and new super mario bros DS were amazing

even the wii one was great

[shy hull]

Haven't played console in a while but yeah if I were to get one it's definitely going to be playstation. Better games and just a better looking console. Xbox looks ugly

Oh I was so confused. It took discord a solid few minutes to update the chat for some reason. I was reading some old stuff lol

[tulip badger]

the ost is sooo good the hate confuses me so much. haven't played the game yet but unholy siege is one of my favorite songs from the series

[delicate grotto]

A banger for sure.
Like the game itself, music is very different from what came before, and because it’s different, people struggle to accept it initially. Seems a lot of the hate TDA was getting is beginning to die down as more people warm up to it.
Game ost was also done pretty dirty on release with poor audio mixing. An update came out recently that fixed the quality exponentially.

Though you’ve still got your Mick diehards claiming Finishing Move used AI to create their music, lmao.

[graceful lion]

if u think that sounds like ai i need to take the drugs ur taking, thats an insane amount of delusion

they literally made music for games when ai music wasnt even a thing

ok nvm first ai song was in 1957 but u get waht i mean

[naive wigeon]

i assure u if mick was the one who composed those tracks the same people hating would be glazing them endlessly 😭

[north spire]

I, for one, am open to newer composers as long as they do a good job

And I’d say that finishing movie provided some good tracks here

In addition to some other tracks that I either don’t care for or straight up dislike ||(hellspawn rift >:c)||

[cinder estuary]

Meathook looks cool and has crazy fun tech, but the ssg is so whimpy

[cinder estuary]

Btw, Mick's only notable works imho were on Wolfenstein and doom.

His other OST work is not nearly as remarkable

[split gate]

I had to do a double take when I saw those comments, I didn’t know stupidity could go more stupid until I saw them

[cinder estuary]

After the allstin Andrew Hullshult interview I'm more inclined to thinking Mick Gordon being fucked was a fruit of early pandemic rather than ID being actually POSs

[naive wigeon]

u could say the same thing for anyone who says dark ages isn’t “a real doom game”

[split gate]

I genuinely don’t understand how people think FM’s ost is generic or AI, none of it is anything I’ve heard from video game osts or from the metal genre

[cinder estuary]

The actual answer is autism

You can't explain it in any other way

Not liking things changing

And if they change they get uncomfortable

[split gate]

Nooo don’t make me remind myself of that 😭

[cinder estuary]

Not even in a derogatory way, I legit think it's some sort of autism

Same thing with people who hate eternal because it's not 2016, or hate TDA because it's not Eternal

[north spire]

Idk, I liked the stuff he did for atomic heart too

[naive wigeon]

i swear vro i bet if u ask any of those people what their first doom game was they would prolly say 2016 or eternal 💔

[split gate]

It’s NPC human behaviour at its finest

[naive wigeon]

cuz dark ages genuinely feels like it could’ve been a mod for doom 2

it’s honestly the most classic feeling out of the 3

(based on gameplay ive seen cuz i cant run it)

[cinder estuary]

Thematically it's the least classic like doom game

Gameplay wise it is the most classic like doom game

[split gate]

I didn’t grow up playing the Doom games, I wasn’t at the age but I knew playing 2016 first wouldn’t make me understand how genre defining this series was so I played the Classics from the get go

[naive wigeon]

fr

[split gate]

The classics aged so well

[north spire]

Basically, it’s a surgical fusion between Quake 1 and Doom

[naive wigeon]

ngl i mostly play eternal and 2016 with 2016 being my first one but i also enjoyed doom 1 and 2

[austere drift]

My first doom was doom 3.
Then I tried 2016 and Eternal few years later.
And also played old doom games.

[split gate]

It feels more like the classics compared to the other two, the emphasis on grounded combat and moving between projectiles is what makes it have that feeling. Yes there is swimming and all that stuff that wasn’t in the classics before but at it’s core, it feels more Doom than ever

Majority of the time when playing the classics you are running and strafing, weaving between projectiles and shooting. That’s how I felt in the classics and TDA captured that the most

[north spire]

My big hope for the dlc is for finishing move to improve and create songs that are more like the good tracks from the base campaign

[split gate]

FM will be cooking and we will be served 🗣️

[north spire]

Either that, or Geoffrey Day cause he is incredible and I think Hulshult is still working on that Iron Lung film

[naive wigeon]

fr

[naive wigeon]

exactly

and there wasnt an emphasis on weapon switching

you had to work with what you had

[tulip badger]

i think the shield is a cool way of making doomguy be able to fight huge hordes in wide spaces with tons of projectiles like in doom wads without just copying the classic gameplay of being able to run fast

[austere drift]

Sadly he will lose it magically (In a way of games chronology)

[north spire]

It also turns Doom slayer into a Demoknight from TF2 and I like TF2 :)

[split gate]

I’ve seen people say that 2016 and Eternal are more like the classics but I have yet to see a good argument why when compared to TDA, all they do is talk the small things but not the overall experience, what you get out of it all together

[austere drift]

lol

[north spire]

Fun fact: did you know that there’s a lost soul cosmetic in tf2?

[split gate]

Exactly, weapon switching was Eternal’s focus, birthed from pushing the limits in 2016

[naive wigeon]

honestly the only classic thing about eternal is a lot of the enemy designs

[austere tiger]

I never played doom 3 but have played 1&2, doom64, 2016, eternal, and im halfway through dark ages right now

[naive wigeon]

im too broke for dark ages rn 💔

[austere drift]

Man...I played doom 3 when I was 10 or 11.

... ;-;

I regret. Slightly. (Game is nice it's just my scared ass back then)

[split gate]

I agree and I guess maybe the gamey style it has too but I think that’s it, there’s not much to talk about in that regard

[naive wigeon]

fr

[north spire]

I started with Doom 2016 :)

[naive wigeon]

same

[split gate]

Bro needs the Rich Get Richer Rune irl

[naive wigeon]

💀 😭

[austere drift]

lol

[austere tiger]

Doom 2016 is what I'd recommend anybody to get into doom

[naive wigeon]

real

[austere drift]

Welp. True. I enjoyed playing 2016.

[split gate]

It’s a fantastic base for the new trilogy and it can give modern players an interest to the classics

[austere drift]

And I still have after-effect of dying on Ultra-Nightmare on Urdak at Eternal,Yesterday.

[naive wigeon]

even if dark ages comes first in the new trilogy timeline-wise 2016 is still the easiest to transition into from other shooters

[austere drift]

Welp.

Imma go. My tired head melts down.

Goodbye pals!

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-jig-dancing-guy-gif-22807135

[split gate]

Fuck I died in Barracks in my first UN run, just as I feared

[austere drift]

Dang.

[split gate]

That buffed boss has hands

[austere drift]

Hehe.

[austere drift]

You know. I raged not because I died on UN at Urdak.

But bc...I fuckingly turned behind for a sec.

[naive wigeon]

cya gang

[austere drift]

And fallen.

[austere drift]

.......

https://tenor.com/view/doom-gif-20902736

[split gate]

That’s so tragic, my hands were sweaty at the Khan Makyr fight

[austere drift]

I had like so low hp.

;-;

And I had so much hope.

Welp ok. Imma go.

[EXESPERONSO-] ded

[split gate]

They knew you were going to win that run so they jinxed you bro

Have a goodnight

[austere drift]

Nah I am ain't going to sleep.

I can't

[naive wigeon]

precision bolt + ballista easily cooks khan mayker

trust

if ur on console just use the chaingun or micro missiles and hold r2

[split gate]

Indeed, truly saved my goofy ahh

Then you use BFG for the last two points

[naive wigeon]

zamn

[split gate]

Or Unmakyr for style points

[naive wigeon]

whenever i play i dont have the unmaykr unlocked at that point because i always forget about the slayer gate in sgn lol

[split gate]

That’s fair, it’s one of those hidden in plain sight in a big area type

[naive wigeon]

fr

[split gate]

Wait who tf would do slayer gates in UN anyways, that’s the equivalent of playing Russian Roulette

[naive wigeon]

i dont play ultra nightmare i just stay on nightmare lol

ill do un when i feel like it

ngl

[split gate]

Don’t play on UN if you value your sanity

[naive wigeon]

😔

[dreamy kiln]

I'll play un if I find a glitch to skip most of the maps or something

[naive wigeon]

the only thing ive finished on ultra nightmare was tag 2 on controller lol

[frail bloom]

Who said it has to work like eternals? I said it can be more akin to the classic archvile. Front and center, forcing you to utilize your shield
@merry pumice

[split gate]

My hands were shaking during the Icon of Sin fight, I’ve never been that locked in except for the final exams

[naive wigeon]

ngl we should probably move to eternal chat

i just realized oops

[split gate]

Doom is Eternal, TDA = Doom, is the math mathing?

[naive wigeon]

syntax error

[dreamy kiln]

No, doom is eternal and doom is the dark age

[split gate]

🤔

[dreamy kiln]

Idk I'm bored

[split gate]

Play Doom 👍

[dreamy kiln]

I already did

[naive wigeon]

how would dark ages slayer play like if he was randomly shoehorned into eternal

with the shield and everything

[split gate]

Play more

[dreamy kiln]

Then the ballista boost won't work

[dreamy kiln]

Can't, I already 100% it

[naive wigeon]

oh yeah

[split gate]

I salute you good sir

[naive wigeon]

dark ages doom guy is probably too heavy to ballista boost

[dreamy kiln]

Thx

[naive wigeon]

considering that him landing on anything creates literal shockwaves

[dreamy kiln]

Or gauss cannon boost

[split gate]

In TDA, the Ballista doesn’t boost the Slayer, the Slayer boosts the Ballista type shit

[naive wigeon]

fr

[frail bloom]

I want a song better than infernal chasm or into the void. I would also like more intergration of melodies bc it's what elevates infernal chasm and into the void, same with WTSFL, I can hum it. Also, some more classic doom references. A couple days ago, @delicate grotto showed me that divine retribution refrences suspense from classic doom, and it's the most metal thing ever.

[split gate]

Imo WTSFL, Blood Red, Infernal Chasm, Into the Void and What Lies Below are their top tracks

WTSFL is incredible, easily my favourite menu music out of three

[heady agate]

I also like music

[split gate]

Yo same

[cinder estuary]

A classic archivile on TDA would actually be really good

An unit that has to be killed first or it revives other units.

The game needs more high priority units like the Arachnotron and the Revenant

[heady agate]

maby in dlc

[split gate]

Shield bash will become your new best friend at that point, you need to get to the Archvile quick

[cinder estuary]

Yes

I want the pain elemental back too

I want an armored classic cacodemon

I want the marauder on tda

[split gate]

He would be so fun to fight with the combat loop, good old boxing match

No waiting for green light, just beat the shit out of the other and parry as quick as possible

[frank turtle]

tda marauder would be fucking nuts

super small parry window kinda like eternal daze

[frail bloom]

Ye he would be the most high priority given his health, abilities and would fit really well considering the time line

Of course, this is assuming ID creates new demons and not just reskins

stares at tag 2

[harsh egret]

well that was covid and all, so surely now...

[frail bloom]

Sure but we are predicting, we don't know what they are able to accomplish for a dlc post covid, we just have to wait and see how they've improved

Is Hugo back soon

[harsh egret]

yh next week afaik

[frail bloom]

YES

Is he streaming next week

[harsh egret]

should be yh

this is the 3rd week with no streams like they said

[split gate]

Let’s gooo the goat is back

[frail bloom]

Check out what I yapped out in #music message
What do you think, was I respectful enough

I was as careful as I could be

[harsh egret]

ill check soon ish

[frail bloom]

Sure

[naive wigeon]

what if instead of the marauder being defensive like in eternal he was more of an aggressive powerhouse

imagine a marauder trying to use quickswitching combos on u

[frank turtle]

that could work, I'm just worried he might be too similar to the argadon hunter

[split gate]

I think you did well

[naive wigeon]

that shit would be so crazy

[split gate]

It’s how I would write it too

[frank turtle]

so idk if he could fit in tda

[frail bloom]

Phew, I really tried to not be condenscending

Just a whisper

I balanced criticism with praise

[split gate]

That’s the example of good communication and critique, it’s how we should act tbh

[frail bloom]

@silent surge what do you think was this the right move?
#music message

If not I'll delete it

[tender crown]

Guys, is it me or The slayer's suit voice is vega

[frail bloom]

It's not Vega

[tender crown]

I mean, yeah it's not Vega but its voice

[cinder estuary]

I think there is a UN bug

[frail bloom]

Ye it's similar

[cinder estuary]

I died on my 100% UN run, went back to the title, and my save was still there

[tender crown]

I think its related to the fact that the suit has maykr tech and Vega its the father so it can be they used part of the escence of the father

[frail bloom]

Hmmm cool theory

[tender crown]

Also wanna point that kreed maykr share voice actor with samur maykr

[naive wigeon]

same thing happened when i attempted un, if u try to load back into the save it’ll spawn u in but you won’t have any of ur guns or equipment lol

[frail bloom]

Ye it's the same voice actor

[frank turtle]

have you guys tried out the parry recolor setting? it's pretty sweet, I'm really liking the cyan parry color

[naive wigeon]

wait shit i forgor this was dark ages chat 😭

[cinder estuary]

I did load normally

I deleted the save tho

[frail bloom]

I chose violet

[cinder estuary]

Because mama didn't raise no coward

[tender crown]

Yeah but im staying with green because My muscle memory fails

[frank turtle]

same thing happened to me, had to respect myself and delete the save

[frank turtle]

I'm worried about this lol, might have to go back if I struggle with it

[tender crown]

Oh yeah, and maykr drones also are vega's voice actor

[tender crown]

Dark Blue is a good color tho

[frank turtle]

and I just died on chapter 2 omfg I'm gonna play eternal for a bit

[silent surge]

is tough to change things after, but can look forward

[tender crown]

I died 2 times in dark ages in nightmare

Can i beat ultra nightmare that easy?

[silent surge]

don’t forget the mental aspect

are you good at keeping your cool?

[frail bloom]

Ye that was my message basically, here's where it could've been better, consider it for dlc, what do you think tho, is this good constructive criticism

[silent surge]

there are times when the riff/volume, say unchained predator, is a little lower

[split gate]

The mindset is different when you get to UN, your nerves may become your downfall, have you done Pandemonium too?

[silent surge]

i did listen to that part the other day on divine

[tender crown]

Sometimes, but like in doom eternal when im playing ultra nightmare when im low on health and ammo and there's a Lot of enemys following me i scream like a angry chimp

[silent surge]

do you get nervous and die

i haven’t jumped into UN yet for TDA, haven’t been rushing it

[frail bloom]

Ye it's genuinely good but too quiet

Makes me sad

[tender crown]

Yeah, 3 imps and a hell knight trap me and its over

[split gate]

Bro returned to monke for Eternal UN 💀

[tender crown]

Ye

And its worse when You are like at 87% at the level ya know

I was beating super gore nest Master level in UN and i got so nervous that i died by the toxic green goo

[split gate]

Watch out for Barracks, the updated boss made me lose subscriber 😔

[silent surge]

it’s spicier, i ran through on NM
you can’t just impale their arms off

[frail bloom]

Me with my shield throw impaler tech:

[tender crown]

Ssg better

[split gate]

Unfortunately 😭, we gotta abide by the fun zone with this one, the Mancubi do not help

[tender crown]

Damn the ssg in dark ages it's so op that it makes me sad that i only use that weapon instead of the other ones

[frail bloom]

Impaler is faster and gets empowered with shield throw switching, so no

Impaler is actually better

[tender crown]

Impaler its presition bolt for dark ages

So its peak

[frail bloom]

Ye it's really useful

[split gate]

Impaler is so fun to use, I was unfamiliar with its game for 3 weeks

[frail bloom]

I tried quickswitching between impaler and ssg but it limits my movement

I'll try impaler and rocket launcher

The game also buffers and delays my movements when I quickswitch too

[tender crown]

Quickswitch in dark ages wouldnt be that bad tho

[frail bloom]

The only purpose quickswitching has in tda is to bypass reloading speeds by like 30%

It's not as optimal as it was in eternal

Which makes sense, different game

[merry pumice]

I mean…

[frail bloom]

I'd rather impaler and shield throw quickswitch

[merry pumice]

you can’t really quick swap

[frail bloom]

Not to eternal level but it preforms the same function

[merry pumice]

the new “combo” moves in TDA are using your shield and gun at the same time

[frail bloom]

You bypass reload speeds

It's more fun to expirement I guess

[merry pumice]

like SSG to shield bash kills most heavies

esp with wraithstone and charged bash

[tender crown]

Speaking of heavys

[frail bloom]

Ye ofc, I was just testing out quick swap from @wheat sigil And @remote thunder

They go crazy

[tender crown]

Someone noticed the whiplash its tankier than eternal

[split gate]

I need the shield to block me when i swap weapons Hugo please 😭🙏, my goofy ahh can’t take these beatings in UN no more

[frail bloom]

It most certainly is

Genuinely feels like a superheavy sometimes

[merry pumice]

yeah it’s insanely annoying, but charged bash + SSG puts into exe state

[remote thunder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1372056310123859998/1373410275838918656/qstrigger2.mp4?ex=685bbfbe&is=685a6e3e&hm=9a332a20c2a2c41bb194172382205751330b81733e281094233656572de79ab9&

[merry pumice]

this seems way faster than normal, is that some tech with the shield and melee you did at the beginning?

[frail bloom]

Do you notice it limiting your movement or delaying your parry function, smt weird going on with me on the ps5

[frail bloom]

You can either shieldbash to do that or block and melee while blocking

[frank turtle]

don't let hugo see this

[neon moss]

Shredder just seems...meh. Am I missing something? Is ricochet the crap upgrade and I should be pincushioning?

[merry pumice]

oh yeah it’s the shield bash bug

[frail bloom]

Shhhhhh, it's called tech

It's kinda hard to integrate

It really limits movement

Again I'll try impaler and rocket launcher instead

[silent surge]

on a serious note on his stream he’s said (paraphrasing) that tech is chill just as long as it’s not brain dead easy

[merry pumice]

oh so it’s staying in the game?

[frail bloom]

We've kinda known since the first week

I doubt they'll remove it

After like what, a month?

[merry pumice]

if it’s taking them this long to remove slowdowns it’ll probably take a while to fix the bug

[frail bloom]

I think they're just considering it, there has been a mod for no slowdowns for like weeks now

Maybe when Hugo comes back there'll be a big push for it, he's been stalking in the youtube comment sections

For slowdowns not the quickswap bug

[pallid wing]

Shredder and accelerator both are meh

[frail bloom]

I disagree for the accelerator, it genuinely shreds most enemies, especially with heatblast

I can move fast with it, and it's good for singular and wide targeting

[merry pumice]

accelerator is good.

[frail bloom]

It depends on the player

[neon moss]

Accelerator is a fucking delight.

[merry pumice]

melts komodos, the kreed, unarmored leaders

though i find it less justifiable to use the better you get at impaler headshots

because crit headshots out-DPS it if you play perfectly + recharge melee

[frail bloom]

Impaler gets empowered by you simply breathing

It's funny

[merry pumice]

can we call them crits

i’m too TF2 brained

[frail bloom]

Sure

[merry pumice]

and they glow like wow

[frail bloom]

Doing shield throw also empowers them

[merry pumice]

yeah it’s getting ammo which you get from melee, toss, or bash

[frail bloom]

So if you abuse shield throw, you can sorta quickswitch between impaler and shield throw

[merry pumice]

it’s fun to weave in tosses to constantly re-empower your impaler vs high hp targets

like ass crack

[round maple]

Broo why game is so expensive

[graceful lion]

ask bethesda idk

or wait 5 years until it goes for like 20% of the price

[hoary depot]

everything is expensive

[pulsar totem]

Just saw a 12 pack of soda in a store going for $11! Like that’s a vending machine markup price at this point

[hoary depot]

yeah I only buy soda when its buy 2 get 2 free

[dusk robin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXhXm8lum9o honestly wished Dark Ages had E1M1 in the soundtrack

[frail bloom]

Meh

I would imagine it heavier

[vital rapids]

Yeah, I'd like to hear it real heavy and low. Thinking WtSFL

[frail bloom]

Exactly

[dusk robin]

got to admit Andy Strider has been a godsend for making the Dark Ages music before the actual tracks came out

[frail bloom]

I never listened to him beforehand.

I think his work is meh

From what I have listened to

[dusk robin]

his version of Unchained Predator is my favorite

[frail bloom]

Not as heavy for what I like

Again he of course doesn't have as big as a budget

[dusk robin]

true

[frail bloom]

I think he would do well if given more resources

But as of now, not for me

[dusk robin]

fair enough

[cinder estuary]

Wait

Did they change the accelerator

You can now keep it permanently overheated on your pocket

Or was I always like that

[dusk robin]

you mean switching it to a different weapon and it'll still have the overheat charge?

[cinder estuary]

Yep

[dusk robin]

I think its always been like that

[vital rapids]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmCO3GKTPg4

[cinder estuary]

I never realized

[rocky badger]

Is there still one Slayer skin in the game files that we don't know how to get? Onyx is from the energy drinks but I thought there was one remaining

[lusty tulip]

Better listen to this when I ger home

[full barn]

its weird how they just forgot about the deag loric guy after 1 cutscene lmao i thought he was gonna have actual plot significance

[real crater]

i dont know if yall seen the achievement icons for killing the vagary, agaddon hunter and komodo but i need them as pfps right now

[frail bloom]

I guess he's just not needed after, or he gets punished, or runs away. We're not sure

[frank turtle]

I'll give em a look

[frail bloom]

But his wishes to bring back his dead person mirrors Valen and his son

So it's maybe subtle foreshadowing

Also, he's in like 3 cutscenes

[warm ibex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1387128822427684904/doom-the-dark-ages-trophies-vagary-down.png?ex=685c37e2&is=685ae662&hm=189cd108850889c7972c69fe02ba36965f4f4fcd18d91b4cb73f0438c19d8dde&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1387128937737490452/doom-the-dark-ages-trophies-agaddon-champion-down.png?ex=685c37fe&is=685ae67e&hm=b6c8b16e4c8bbda0727355f64d53e08ccb7fbdb2d269aa52d6cff40f0572dd79&

[frail bloom]

#artwork message
Have you seen this

[graceful lion]

the H in Horde stands for W 🙏

[frail bloom]

Very Army of Darkness

[frail bloom]

When was the last time he was here

[full barn]

is it me or do the acolyte dudes look like transfigured maykrs

[graceful lion]

6 days ago

[frail bloom]

Huh it felt like a month to me

[frail bloom]

No they're sentinel scholars I believe

[full barn]

if only i could read

[frail bloom]

They don't really look like maykers to me

But their codex says who they are

[warm ibex]

Here's the last one! https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1387129140146081803/doom-the-dark-ages-trophies-komodo-champion-down.png?ex=685c382e&is=685ae6ae&hm=dc063510f67196063faabe18461902f11a966da51c3043bf53f2e86a18189972&

[merry sapphire]

did they just announce a master level update coming tomorrow on twitter

[frail bloom]

What????

WHERE

AUUGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGH

[graceful lion]

WHAT

[merry sapphire]

on twitter they doing a harbor of souls master level

[graceful lion]

WOOOOOOOOO

[frail bloom]

Are you kidding me

Is it the 3 cyberdemon thing again

THAT'S A SECRET

[graceful lion]

oh for fuck's sake

[merry sapphire]

ouhhhhhhhh

😂 My bad Yall 🖐️

[frail bloom]

This is like the 5th person

[full barn]

BRO WHATTTTT

[frail bloom]

read above

[merry sapphire]

biz Dissappointment live reaction

they should do a master level soon there isnt covid now

hope we get one before the dlc

[full barn]

oh brother

[merry sapphire]

My . Bad 😂 🖐️

[frail bloom]

Tbh I don't know what they were thinking, its like showcasing a vid of the tyrant secret in SGN, just a stupid thing to show, and misleads people

It's a secret for a reason

Smh

[warm ibex]

I hope that's irony lol

[merry sapphire]

Holy shit Horde mode Gaming

[warm ibex]

holy shit shivero

how's it going man

[merry sapphire]

its Going good Man i Love yo vids

And yo polls too

[warm ibex]

I hadn't seen that! Super sick render, hope we start seeing more of these as models become accessible

[warm ibex]

thank you my goat 🙏

[graceful lion]

modders are also working on (but not close to) master levels

[merry sapphire]

updating you man i died on UN on the spire level in that Fuckin komodo rev encounter

[full barn]

this aint fair bro harbor of souls is my fav level too

how dare they

[west bloom]

💔 tragic

[warm ibex]

it's a race to see who releases the first master level, id or modders

[frail bloom]

For us console players, I guess we're done for

[merry sapphire]

honestly for my first time on UN its not that bad

[west bloom]

is TDA modding a thing yet?

[warm ibex]

To an extent

[merry sapphire]

#Nah 💔 (for master levels)

[graceful lion]

has been for a bit, but the most we have is slowmo removal, which also has options for other shit

[full barn]

atleast i can play the game lmao i dont even have an rt gpu

[graceful lion]

u can play it if u have an amd gpu and are on linux

[full barn]

thank god past me bought a ps5

[frail bloom]

Well same but I won't be playing the wacky things the modding community comes up with

[graceful lion]

thank god i bought an rtx 2060, tho i wouldve probably gotten a 3060 if i scoured hard enough

[frail bloom]

I have to wait for ID

[full barn]

no games my ass this shit has 3 games and theyre all from the same franchise

[merry sapphire]

yall might get the creator modding thingy for dark ages seeing as its a singleplayer only game. we did get it for skyrim and fallout 4

[frail bloom]

Snapmap?

[warm ibex]

Don't be so sure

[full barn]

sure do hope theyre not gonna charge us to download stuff they didnt even make

[merry sapphire]

nah, the full on mod support that skyrim and fallout 4 got for consoles

[full barn]

creation club

[frail bloom]

I'm not sure, but as of now they've been kinda quiet

[merry sapphire]

better than nothing i suppose

[frail bloom]

So like the mod browser on doom 1 and 2

[warm ibex]

Which means they're hard at work! (and also that Hugo streams are on break)

[vital rapids]

You love to see the quake-like symbol and the double helix symbol next to each other multiple times in the Cosmic Realm
"quake dna ... quake dna ... quake dna"

[merry sapphire]

doom eternal got mod support when nobody expected it. literally came as a surprise

[graceful lion]

i turned on resizable bar and im getting 90fps on all settings UN except lighting and geometric textures, this shit is op

[frail bloom]

Hugo comes back next week right

[full barn]

just gotta wait till quakecon

[merry sapphire]

i dont think the game is gonna get mod support until after the dlc's fully drop and after update 6.66

[frail bloom]

Ye but what abt console

[warm ibex]

I believe so, but they haven't confirmed a stream date yet

[frail bloom]

Hm

[graceful lion]

i mean, if people celebrated like crazy when it came out, id wants to do that again probably

[merry sapphire]

i turned that shit on as soon as the game released. im squeezing every possible thing out of my pc to run this game at the highest settings. too bad Pathtracing Destroys my rtx 5070

[full barn]

eternal's mod browser is still in beta tho wonder if theyre ever gonna update it

[graceful lion]

so theyre gonna be like "hmm, we should do it again"

[graceful lion]

i used nvidia profile inspector, which actually turns it on

its a tool from github thats basically the nvidia control panel but advanced

[merry sapphire]

true, but we didnt really get anything crazy after the tools came out sadly. most of it was either ports of mods or model swaps. sometimes ports of maps too like mario 64 which was pretty cool ngl

[graceful lion]

iirc it let us make other stuff, or made modding easier in general

[merry sapphire]

huh? dont you turn on resizeble bar from the BIOS? nvidia profile inspector just tells you if its on or off. doesnt change anything

[graceful lion]

it was more than just a mod manager

[graceful lion]

nope, the github tool actually lets you turn it on

[merry sapphire]

thats weird. just turn it on from the BIOS just to be safe

instead of downloading tools from github i mean

[vital rapids]

If you switch to denoise instead of ray reconstruction you can get a decent bump and you keep your emissives etc.

Also check out whether you prefer water reflections with it on or off

Because the softness doesn't always look better tbh

[merry sapphire]

problem is that even on the lowest PT settings, i still dont manage to hit 144 frames per second with 2x frame gen

[frank turtle]

Just got the pulverizer on chapter 4, gonna use it alot more this run

[merry sapphire]

144+ frames is very important to me

[frail bloom]

Good luck

[vital rapids]

Nix RR and water reflections, dlss quality and you might get closer than you think

[frank turtle]

@cinder estuary when do you like upgrading the pulverizer on un?

[vital rapids]

Fingers crossed for you 🤞🏻

[sweet jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/minions-gooning-gooning-is-harmaful-never-goon-buff-minions-gif-16296780571266208197

[vital rapids]

Are you 1080p?

[frail bloom]

Have yall seen the ai sasquatch vids

Crazy, what will ai be like in 5 years

You can fake crimes

[vital rapids]

Ah OK, 5070 with the settings I suggested and I see 125fps. Not quite 144

[graceful lion]

i mean, didnt we have fuckin will smith spaghetti 2 years ago, and in like a year i feel like theyll be realistic

[frail bloom]

Ye, it's gonna go bad

How bad idk

[real crater]

i meant on xbox

they need to make those xbox and playstation pfps

well i do have the app so i could just make them a pfp right now but i like my current one better

[frail bloom]

I mean I find those ai sasquatch vids funny but is it worth the lay offs, not really

Like sure if it's used for gags like the sasquatch vids than I'm fine with it but you can't have one with the other

[graceful lion]

companies will reduce employees when possible when it gains them money

[frail bloom]

I'd rather have an authentic video

So it's not really worth the laughs, I can laugh at other stuff

[uncut needle]

How get good

[frail bloom]

To git gud, one must parry with shield, shoot with gun, and get ammo back with punch

Shield also gud for offensive and defensive, abuse shield throw

Guns good when mix with shield

Punch also good when mixed with gun and shield

To practice, start at low difficulty then make way up

Or fail, fail again till one understands the task at hand
-master Googway

[frank turtle]

making ur way up the difficulty chart is a good tip, it's not worth it jumping into a difficulty way above ur skill level, it's just not fun

I went from ultra violence to nightmare, nightmare again and then pandemonium

then un

[frail bloom]

I started and nightmare and will stay on nightmare

I'm changing the game speed on subsequent playthroughs

[hard thistle]

If i start a pandemonium run and that then i make ennemy projectil speed faster, will i still unlock the skin at the end of the campaign ?

[frank turtle]

Yes, unless they changed it in a patch recently

[hard thistle]

Thanks

[frank turtle]

Goodluck on the run

[hasty stone]

You can change any setting

[uneven mortar]

Any news on updates coming?

[viscid holly]

Are we getting a Hugo - Josh stream tonight?

[merry sapphire]

2k

[viscid holly]

Nope, it's a 3 week hiatus apparently. I just checked elsewhere, incase anyone was wondering

[frail bloom]

There should be a Hugo stream next week dw

[hollow sandal]

Hugo pleewaaase 😭

[uneven mortar]

They need to separate the ammo and health sliders...

[hollow sandal]

Yes please

I'll put my ammo One all the way low

[frail bloom]

Im gonna replay legacy of rust now since my internet is off

Oh nvm internet is back on

Tda time

[maiden onyx]

imagine a version of dark ages where there are multiple players controlling each part of the slayer
how much harder do you think it is when one person is operating the shield, one person the legs, one person the head, one person the gun.

i'm just imagining a world where the tether is too strong and the maykrs have to do this to make him do anything.

[merry sapphire]

you can probably do that on a pc actually

just remap all the buttons to a keyboard and let the players only press the parts they control

[frail bloom]

If you jump on a zombie, you can employ 2 shockwaves

Wait lemme try this again

[tranquil badge]

I don't think so, I accidentally jumped on a group of zombies one time and it didn't kill any of them, even when I hit the ground

[frail bloom]

It worke dfor me, but this is once

[tranquil badge]

Unless you're jumping from higher ground

[frail bloom]

Ye that's what happened

[tranquil badge]

Ah

[frail bloom]

They like to sound condenscending

That's their shtick

[fair gull]

I dont really notice the music which is a bit of a shame. Whenever I make a point to listen to it, its good

[frail bloom]

Even now? When they raised the volume

And mixed it better

[fair gull]

They did?
I completed the story a few days ago and right now im just playing other games until an endless/horde mode releases

[frail bloom]

Ye they did for like 2 weeks now

Everyone loved the update

[fair gull]

I bought the game after that

[frail bloom]

????
Maybe try settings

Music on 100% will probably rupture your eardrums tho

[fair gull]

I didnt touch the volume settings

[frail bloom]

Idk try messing around, the threshold for how loud it is has increased

Btw eternal is WAY worse than tda when it comes to music mixing

100% for music, 50% for sound, can barely hear the music in eternal

Meanwhile tda base settings is much louder

Anyways, quickswitching between rocket class and spike class is so easy

Rather fun too

[spark patrol]

Hey is does anyone know what's up with the objective icons just not appearing on chapter 13 after you take out the 2 hell ships?

[frail bloom]

Lol I quickswitched so much the game stopped me from being able to block

[vital rapids]

I prefer the music to be heavy and not have any notes of dubstep 🤷🏻‍♂️

[frail bloom]

Difference between dubstep and melody

Let's just acknowledge that

[vital rapids]

If it sounds like dubstep to me, it's jarring. I don't get that from the TDA music. There seems to be quite a bit in the Eternal music

[frail bloom]

For example, into the voids melody is the dark halls reference

It's something ontop your harmony

Something you can hum

[harsh egret]

@frail bloom only now got to check the msg
i think its fine yh

i agree mostly, to me personally i dont think i need it to be much better than it is, i already am enjoying what we have and whatever they make next im sure they will take whatever feedback they come across and improve but to me i just dont really mind what they make, and not in a way where i dont care about it, i just genuinely enjoy what they did and dont feel the need for too much improvement in many areas
but maybe thats just me, ive seen more ppl agree with u as well so ig i just have a different opinion idk

if whatever they improve upon for u and everyone else still objectively sounds awesome FOR ME then im ofc down

[frail bloom]

I didn't say it needs much improvement, but minor differences can make a huge impact

It's why I used the word appreciation a lot

We would apprecciate it y'know

[harsh egret]

yh for sure

[tranquil badge]

I remember the day I opened the game after the mixing update, I could hear the menu music very clearly from my headphones, which were several feet away 😂

[terse hollow]

100% with you on this one. I don't really mind the music in either but as someone who used to listen to edm alot but got sick of it pretty quick it forsure sounds closer to some of that then some heavy metal or something

And it's not just melody😂 plenty of songs got melody without sounding like that, just taste

Oo shiny color now

[next thistle]

Does Cyberdemon or Aggadon Hunter have more HP ?

[vital rapids]

I want to say Agaddon tanks more damage, but I don't have numbers or anything

[frank turtle]

agaddon I'm 99% sure

[stoic sleet]

Is that the one where ur on the dragon fighting tentacles

[frail bloom]

No no I know but the songs in tda with melodies are more beloved than the ones without

Into the void, when the shadows first lengthened, infernal chasm

Blood Red

[terse hollow]

Yeah ive seen alot of people agreeing with that too. Seems pretty split on that opinion but thats how it goes with music, everyone's got a different taste

Than there's the people saying all the new songs suck and have since the second game or some crap😂

[frail bloom]

It's cuz it adds to that memorability factor if used correctly, and FM uses it very well, I'd just like to see them expirement

More that is, not that they haven't already

Plus, the classic references they pull are just awesome, no problem in wanting some more of that

[frail bloom]

But, but muh lawn mower!!!!!! Where my lawn mowers!!!?

I hear that from musicians y'know, like you want the same exact gimmick used????

They aren't asking for some obscure new thing to use, they want chainsaws and lawnmowers back

Absolutely stupid

[vital rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/dubstep-virtual-riot-bass-140-gif-20062340

My thoughts exactly tbh

[violet lynx]

help my save file for doom eternal isnt loading even tho its here int he files
GAME-AUTOSAVE0

[vital rapids]

#doom-eternal might be better or #tech-talk

[violet lynx]

it should apply to any doom game

i found my safe file in file explorer but its not loading up in eternal after i closed the game

[foggy breach]

Eternal's music is too quiet ingame compared to TDA being a beast ingame

Is 2016's music loud ingame? I haven't played it in some time..

Yeah, I could feel the music more in TDA than Eternal's

[merry pumice]

now i’m just waiting for master levels now that i beat UN

[stoic sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/ruan-mentioned-gif-23876676

[frank turtle]

I'm considering trying UN without upgrading anything

[spark patrol]

Yes that onw

[stoic sleet]

Uhhh pahh

I think smth similar happened to me

Maybe just find the places urself

Uhhh pahhh

[spark patrol]

I have by following the tentacles and got nuttin

[stoic sleet]

Oh

Uhhhh pahhhhh

Idk then man sorry

Uhhhh pahhhhhh

[frail bloom]

Uuuhhhhhh tung tung uhhhhhh

Sahuuurrrr uuhhhh

[stoic sleet]

Uhhh pahhh, are you insulting my breathing? Uhh pahhh

[frail bloom]

Tralalero uhhhh yeeeaaahh uhhhhhhh

It is?

Sometimes I feel you see things.

[hard thistle]

What’s good, Slayers?!

Honestly, I think we sometimes forget we can love multiple games at once, for different reasons too! I love 2016 for being both fast on the ground and in the air, the guns and upgrades are epic (Siphon Grenade and Equipment Rune are Elite!!!!!!), the atmosphere, the Mick’s-tape and the simplicity of the concept.

I love Eternal for being even faster, more aerial and more intense, but we have the best toolkit for the job, and more weapons to kill the foul forces with! Massive levels (gorgeous levels, I might add), killer tunes and the Fortress! Plus, the skins. So good.

[frail bloom]

Do tda next

[hard thistle]

And Dark Ages is a glorious mix of classic gameplay, new gameplay types (Atlan and Serrat the Dragon), the size of the chapters, a dope story, epic soundtrack, craziest fucking guns ever (both Skullcrushers are so much fun), the fact that we have Argent D’Nur, Hell, the Afterlife and the Cosmic Realm, and the best villain that we get to massacre with divine prejudice! Plus, the characters are really cool, too! I respect Novik, his daughter Thira, Commander Valen and his son Marok are dope too!

[frail bloom]

I love your positivity