the-dark-ages

[slender night]

You know what I meant, the non-nickname name

[honest vortex]

Afaik Big Fucking Gun is the official name.

Bio Force Gun was only used in the movies or something

[neon gust]

nah Bio Force Gun comes from Doom 3

[hard thistle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zftiM9QiLjE
Damn the rock looks so excited

He nails the expression of a player who gets it for the first time

[slender night]

I'm talking about it being the in-universe name. The scientists creating it naming it "big fucking gun" would've been too cheesy

[hard thistle]

Scientists come up with funky names sometimes but i understand what you're saying

Another patch but no Berserker activation on PS5 for me again

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-chuck-charles-gif-26670840

[honest vortex]

It seems to be Big Fucking Gun in D3 as well

[hard thistle]

some people say DOOM 2005 came up with it

[honest vortex]

It did

[hollow sandal]

@honest vortex do you like the pulverizer?

[fierce sail]

hey what is the new patch about?

[tribal patrol]

Big. fucking. gun

[stoic forge]

I’m doing stuff like shield bash>melee>SSG>melee, any advice on optimization?

[past tide]

if I wanna get the berserker achievement after the latest patch do I have to make an entirely new save or do i just need to login to my old save?

[hardy fable]

just delete the beserker achievement atp Id software

[strong grotto]

new patch??

[silent surge]

no notes yet

[strong grotto]

yeah i noticed

[real lynx]

Path tracing?

[strong grotto]

idk didnt see any toggles for it

[harsh egret]

highly doubt it, not with a 200 mb patch

[gritty matrix]

It's bro force gun btw

[opaque crow]

Is the berserker trophy fixed on ps5?

[delicate grotto]

Yes

[hardy fable]

i doubt it ever will be lol

[delicate grotto]

It was fixed for me and a few others though it may vary.

[hardy fable]

thats what ive heard every other patch and it hasnt popped for me yet

[delicate grotto]

I think you have to start a brand new save honestly.

[hardy fable]

I just want my platinum

[delicate grotto]

Might pop then?

[hardy fable]

istg if i play through the whole game for this dumbass trophy and it doesnt pop again

[delicate grotto]

I feel you. I’ve had 2 full playthroughs of this game and each time it’s bugged out preventing me from 100%’ing it.

[hardy fable]

this is my first time dealing with a bugged trophy and i have 6 platinums under my belt

[delicate grotto]

Once with the Shredder mastery removing its upgrades all together.
And the other not counting 5 gold in Spire of Nerathul. One of the longest levels in the game btw, and I replayed it 6 times. Twice with it soft locking me.

[harsh egret]

for me on steam i started a new playthrough but didnt have to play through the whole game to fix it

[hardy fable]

fuck Spire of Nerathul

it was cool the first time but i hated it the second and not looking forward to the third

i have it like 90% complete because im missing a codex and like 30 gold

[delicate grotto]

It’s one of my favorite levels but having to replay it only to realize that it’s permanently bugged from full completion has soured my enjoyment of it.

Seriously, five fucking gold pieces are preventing me from 100%’ing my save.

Which I’ve already collected they’re just not registering.

[harsh egret]

"Thanks for your patience while we continue to investigate why some PlayStation 5 users have been unable to unlock the Berserker Achievement/Trophy upon obtaining the necessary upgrade"
just now

[slender night]

I replayed 2016 like thrice trying to get the Rip and Tear achievement, it only popped after I wiped my save entirely

[hardy fable]

Resurrection is my fav i think

[delicate grotto]

Yeah that’s in my top 5 for sure.

[harsh egret]

Update 1 Hotfix is now available on all platforms and resolves degraded visuals appearing as increased graininess and/or blurriness in some video settings configurations. Shoutout to our community for helping identify the issue, so we could quickly address it
thats the patch

[hardy fable]

just now working on the 2016 plat after getting eternals and hopefully TDAs soon

im 3 away from TDAs not including berserker

[delicate grotto]

I’ve just decided to 100% everything first playthrough of each level on my Pandemonium run. Was gonna do UN but I’d rather not risk it.

[strong grotto]

its just a hotfix

oh im a bit late

[hardy fable]

so no berserker?

[harsh egret]

just mentioned that above

[hardy fable]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-no-head-so-no-head-sad-joker-joker-sad-gif-5250316180729187226

[harsh egret]

^

[hardy fable]

first they send me the wrong copy of the game and now theyre blue balling my plat trophy

[dim nymph]

Would be nice if they'd actually fixed the Berserker trophy so I can delete this fucking 85GB game off my SSD already.

[hardy fable]

complaining about the size of the game while playing F76 lol

[dim nymph]

Keyword: Playing. I haven't played TDA since I finished it. Nice try though.

[hardy fable]

100gb of nothing burger

[harsh egret]

just uninstall it and install it again when its fixed..?

[slender night]

It being 85GB isn't inherently bad, if your storage is clogged up that's on you

[opaque crow]

I have tried everything

New save and upgrade something just new save and watch first cutscene go to upgrade thing on my 100% save

Nothing worked

[hardy fable]

also when i buy games i buy them because i want to play them more than once lmao

i dont buy a game to get the trophies on it and then delete it

[graceful lion]

i dont think its gonna have more space because of path tracing, or atleast not much compared to raytracing

[dim nymph]

It's on Bethesda for bugging an achievement that's preventing completionists from 100% the game for the past 4 weeks now. My storage space isn't the issue. I generally uninstall games I'm done with.

[graceful lion]

maybe a few gigs or something

[slender night]

You say that like the bug was intentional lol

[harsh egret]

wdym compared to path tracing, path tracing didnt come in a 200 mb update lol

i meant ray tracing there

[graceful lion]

how much storage does it even take?

or, would take

[harsh egret]

not 200 mb?

[dim nymph]

I don't buy games just for the trophies either, and you don't know how many times I've played it, so what's your point?

[harsh egret]

im not a game dev but assuming the primary lighting technology (which btw also does other stuff gameplay wise) takes only 200mb is crazy lol

[hardy fable]

"I havent played TDA since i finished it" you literally told me bro

[orchid rover]

I wrote the spiel on TDA plot. I'd like feedback

Doom 2016's story was especially minimalist. Only having 3, really 2 characters speaking and being active in the plot. Samuel Hayden, Olivia Pierce, and the Slayer. Doomguy is the silent, unstoppable force with a goal of eliminating all ties and dependency on hell and demonic energy, regardless of what it may cost humanity. Olivia Pierce is the opposite, sacrificing however many millions of people, with zero regard for humanity so long as it empowers her and the UAC. Samuel Hayden was a bit in the middle, viewing the deaths along the way as a tragic but fundamentally acceptable loss in the pursuit of progress against the Earth's energy crisis. Dark Ages' issue with story is that it indulges heavily in the "Give the player a cool experience" at the cost of too many shallow, ineffective characters littering the plot. The goal of the Dark Ages is go to Prince Ahzrak and kill the shit out of him. Everything along the way is practically just set dressing for that goal

[dim nymph]

You say that like Bethesda's incompetence is limited to TDA lol.

[hardy fable]

Bethesda is the publisher

Id made the game

[dim nymph]

Saying I haven't played something since I finished it doesn't indicate how many times I've played it.

[orchid rover]

Anything released under Bethesda's banner is THEIR responsibility of quality control.

[dim nymph]

Guys, I'm sorry I insulted your game. It'll be okay.

[orchid rover]

Lmao so trur

[hard thistle]

My counterpoint to this is that Olivia Pierce was a nothing character and the Slayer was only fine in 2016. TDA had the best iteration of the Slayer in the series, the best villain too. 2016 gets too much credit for its story - to me most of what makes Doom's modern games such a cool universe was introduced in Eternal.

[hardy fable]

you just acted like it was the end of the world because you have 85gb on your SSD when you could totally delete the game and redownload it when the trophy is fixed lol

[orchid rover]

It's not about how good or bad Olivia's character is. It's about narrative purpose. Her, Samuel Hayden, and the Slayer all perfectly contrast each other in various ways

[hardy fable]

eternals story is a mess but I didnt care about the story until eternal, 2016s plot was just there so you had a reason to be doing what you were doing

[orchid rover]

This is very absent in Eternal and TDA. At the expense of telling a vast scifi adventure, we get nothingburger characters when part of the sell of Dark Ages' story is seeing the world so long ago when all of the Slayers' former allies were alive

[hard thistle]

I get that, but I'm saying she has no presence in the story past the, like, fifth level or so. I would consider Thira and Novik in TDA to be more fleshed out as characters than Olivia was in 2016.

[hardy fable]

we didnt even get characters apart from the doom marine in 93, DOOM II, or 64, DOOM hasnt always been known for its amazing characters

[hard thistle]

2016's story is all bark and very little bite. It's got a lot of cool style and irreverence to it, but beyond Samuel Hayden being awesome and the Slayer having some cool moments, it is largely a ripoff of Doom 3's story. It's an overplayed story that just happens to be told relatively well.

[orchid rover]

No way. Novik and Thira are actual dead pieces of wood. Not that Pierce is a beacon of personality, but Novik literally does nothing in this story. Tell me 3 things Novik personally does to affect the outcome of the story

[barren shell]

fr

[hardy fable]

the story isnt about Novik, its about the Slayer

[barren shell]

he looked sick in eternal

[orchid rover]

Thira actually influences the plot.

1. She leads us to the forge and empowers the Shield
2. She leads the battle into hell at the end

[hardy fable]

also the thing Ahzrak wants is inside of thira. i feel like thats a pretty important part of her

[barren shell]

well yes, but he ought to be able to do something because he is the king (he looked strong, but unfortunately gets beaten by ahzrak)

[sonic turret]

That Komkdo's definitely inspired by Reptile from Mortal Kombat, even the fast movement from the 2021 movie.

[barren shell]

it looked harder in the trailer ngl, I think they had to nerf him before the final release

[sonic turret]

The Dark Ages seems extremely linear compared to the classic Doom era.

[orchid rover]

That has nothing to do with her character it's a plot macguffin

[sonic turret]

He's hard enough, but then most of the super heavies take some getting used to.

[hardy fable]

yes but that part of her makes her a part of the plot, doom has never been about the characters, its always been about hell and the slayer/marine

[orchid rover]

I wanted more Komodos

[hard thistle]

Novik's purpose within TDA is not to personally affect the direct events of TDA but to provide context for the man we knew about beforehand. Novik's writing is informed by the fact we already knew who he was in Eternal.

• The betrayal of the Slayer in handing him over to the Maykrs, while not happening on-screen, paints the beginnings of the Slayer's dynamic with the Sentinels - how little they trust him.
• Despite this, the game ties into the Slayer's apparently deep respect for Novik - it cements that the whole 2016 intro thing is something Novik told him once that the Slayer remembers in times of uncertainty or distress, which is kind of sad when you remember Novik sold him out to the Maykrs and even by the end of the story wanted him far away from the planet itself.
• This is further compounded by the fact that the Slayer's one line of dialogue in this game is said specifically to Novik despite this.

[sonic turret]

The Baron's a challenge now that I can't simply dash out of the way, like in Eternal.

[barren shell]

but to be honest, the agaddon hunter was overhyped. He's not even as hard as the Marauder, he's more like a toned-down Gladiator

[hard thistle]

2016 was an isolated story of its own, in regards to Olivia and Hayden and all. TDA isn't like this. The story is written under the expectation that you know who these people are and what happened to them. You're meant to see Novik in this game with the looming reminder hanging above you that Novik was last seen mourning the fall of everything he loved, and by the time we see his "ghost" in Eternal he has become a defeatist sad sack who thinks even the Slayer can't stand a chance against the Maykrs that killed the world he loved.

[sonic turret]

I find the Marauder easy tbh, he was a challenge at first, but once you beat Eternal, and mastered the timing, it's not a problem. I think I've just about got the Agadon Hunter figured out, I was attacking him by breaking his shield, but now I've started waiting for him to strike and then I counter, rather than trying to attack him preemptively.

[hardy fable]

there is a lack of super heavies in TDA, kind of disappointing and if we ever get a master campaign i hope we see more. the 3 Super heavies we got are fun and different from each other to fight but theyre kinda underused

[sonic turret]

Are you serious? They're literally hiding around every corner.

[orchid rover]

It's hard in this game to balance enemy quantity with how dangerous they are. A single Cyberdemon alone can totally control a battlefield with his infinite range

[barren shell]

but if the agaddon hunter was more like the Gladiator, he would've been a more memorable super-heavy

[hardy fable]

not at all lmao

[real lynx]

super heavies are just easy in TDA

[sonic turret]

You mean like a sequential battle, in phases?

[orchid rover]

Did you play Doom the Fart Ages or something

[hard thistle]

WDYM 3? There were like 5. Vagary, Cyberdemon, Agaddon, Cosmic Baron, Komodo.

[sonic turret]

What difficulty setting are you playing it on?

[dim nymph]

I'm sorry, am I not allowed to have grievances about a product I paid $70 for?

[barren shell]

not really. I wished he was like the first phase of the Gladiator

[hardy fable]

I meant Vagary Aggadon Komodo i kinda forgot the baron and cyberdemon were the same class

[sonic turret]

No, I'm just not playing it on easy.

[hardy fable]

UV

[oblique raft]

Im thinking trying nightmare on dark ages

[sonic turret]

That's probably why then. 🤷

[real lynx]

Vagaries, barons, cyberdemons, agaddons, komodos

[hardy fable]

difficulty doesnt change enemy count

[barren shell]

I played it first on nightmare, and my tip is to become good at parrying

[orchid rover]

Try TDA at 50% or 75% damage. Much better when multiple heavies arent oneshot by SSG

[barren shell]

it's pain if u don't master parrying

[hard thistle]

Can confirm the game's better at 75%. I switched to that three levels in and haven't changed back since.

[oblique raft]

I know I never played nightmare before

[real lynx]

Cyberdemons are annoying at range but a joke up close. By far the most dangerous sulerheavies are agaddons and komodos imo

[orchid rover]

I would KILL to have faster weapon switch in exchange for hjgher enemy HP. Just something where I dont have to spend 80% of my gameplay on SSG

[barren shell]

NAH BRO PLAY IT AT MAX SPEED AND MAX OUT DAMAGE TO YOU AND WEAKEN DAMAGE TO DEMON

[hardy fable]

you payed $70 for a game, not the trophy thats bugged. sure you're allowed to be upset about it but at the end of the day you should be enjoying the game, not the trophies

[orchid rover]

SSG and Salvage Impaler are overpowered

[hard thistle]

I'm okay with the weapon switch speed but it's lame you can't use the shield while switching.

[real lynx]

The SSG is great but I don't think its the best weapon. Salvage impaler, chain shot and accelerator are all fantastic. And the ravager

[sonic turret]

Once you've upgraded your weapons a fair bit, the Cyberdemons are no problem to deal with.

[dark thunder]

I think they played it safe after the development of doom 4 and stuff

[real lynx]

The accelerator is truly slept on

[dark thunder]

Also, I wonder why they thought the turret sections were a good idea, they don't suck it's just ur stuck in place

[orchid rover]

PREACH KING

[dark thunder]

impaler gang

[orchid rover]

Accelerator is probably the highest DPS weapon with heat blast

[sonic turret]

I've honestly stopped using it, I tend to use the more recent weapons that I've gotten later on, like the Ravager and Rocket Launcher. I use the SSG too, but that's about it.

[orchid rover]

The Pulverizer is unbelievably awful

So is Triple Combat Shotgun

Why is 1 SSG shot more damage than like 3 or 4 FULL VOLLEYS of 3x CSG

[dark thunder]

cause its a badass gun

[real lynx]

Combat shotgun is more for armor

[dark thunder]

shrimple as

[dim nymph]

I did enjoy the game. I just want the trophy for Platinum before I uninstall it.

[dark thunder]

And it also gives u an incentive to use that gun so it's not left out 🙂

[orchid rover]

Killing enemies before they can blink protects you more xd

In Doom Eternal, you could light up fodder and flame meathook for easy armor

I respect that id wanted to lower how easily resources ciuld be obtained that way

[oblique raft]

Nightmare is going to be tough

[orchid rover]

But having to go to shotgun class then swap to CSG is so annoying

[honest vortex]

Yyp

Yup

[glad hinge]

This is exactly the problem. So many character arcs in TDA's story don't stand on their own. Instead it's expected that you "just get it" from playing the previous games

• Valen and Marok have 0 character development. There's nothing they contribute, that only their characters could contribute. They could have been completely replaced with two nameless Sentinel Soldiers and there would be nothing different with the plot of the game.
• There's maybe 1 minute's worth of cutscenes showing the Slayer's relationship with Serrat. And then they make a big deal out of him dying - with the expectation that you'll "just get it" if you know 30 year old Doom lore trivia about Daisy. Completely falls flat because the actual relationship is non-existent.

[vital rapids]

underrated badass gun
just like shredder with pincushion

[hard thistle]

I don't see how it is supposed to be a bad thing that you are expected to have prior knowledge of the series.

I don't really think the story being standalone would make it better or worse. That's not what it's trying to be. All the marketing specifically frames it as a prequel.

[glad hinge]

It's not a bad thing if it adds extra depth to an already-deep story. That isn't the case in the situations I just described.

In fact, you might argue it makes things worse. Because knowing who these characters are, it misleads you into believing they'll play a significant role in TDA's story. And then they just end up being glorified voices in your radio, with some appearances in cutscenes.

[vital rapids]

I came into it having mostly ignored the story since the old games, and it hasn't been that bad.
It did prompt me to get a rough idea about the new games' lore though, so there's that I suppose

[honest vortex]

I'm going to be honest here

I really really really fucking hate Cosmic Barons and Agaddon Hunters

[vital rapids]

That's some solid RP

[honest vortex]

They ignore your shields or parries 90% of the time (super buggy)

And they seem to ignore the one shot protection system

Also they're ridiculously bullet spongey

[hard thistle]

I dunno, to me I never really went into TDA's story expecting this. TDA just isn't really going for that. It's a vignette - a look at an overall small fraction of the Unholy Wars and its history. The marketing frames it as part of a "trilogy" but it's more a background piece for the last two games. I found I enjoyed it because of seeing characters like Valen and Novik and their scenes in the game supplementing their appearances in Eternal.

[vital rapids]

If anything, this makes the lore of the last two games a bit more interesting

[honest vortex]

People saying Agaddon Hunters are better designed Marauders are capping hard.

They're significantly worse and buggier.

Which is actually saying something since Marauders are very buggy too. 😂

[sonic turret]

I'm on Nightmare rn, if you've already beaten the game, it should be OK.

[hard thistle]

The main part of TDA's plotline that matters is the Slayer's journey and Ahzrak. And I think it nailed everything about that stuff. Valen, Novik, Thira, the Cosmic Realm, it's all really cool and I like it, but they're not the primary focus of the story - they are meant to flesh out this small glimpse of the Sentinels we have been given, informed by the player's knowledge it will all end in tragedy anyway.

[sonic turret]

I went straight to Nightmare as soon as I'd bought the game, but that's only because I tend to get lazy with my play style otherwise.

[honest vortex]

Also Agaddon Hunters feel faaaar more restrictive than Marauders.

Same for Cosmic Barons being the most restrictive version of the Barons in the franchise by a longshot

[oblique raft]

I beat the game on easy because want to chill out play not have hard time now I want a challenge

[honest vortex]

I'm starting to see why people say Dark Ages is the worst of the trilogy because I'm kinda starting to think that way too

Now that I'm replaying it more.

This game is even more broken, janky, and buggy than Eternal which is REALLY saying something

[sonic turret]

Fair

[vital rapids]

is this your anger at BS demons speaking

[honest vortex]

Also not being able to parry or block while switching weapons is REALLY fucking clunky and stupid

[oblique raft]

It can't be harder then elden ring difficulty

[hard thistle]

I've never seen these bugs you guys are mentioning. Also Agaddons are way better than Marauders.

[vital rapids]

what speed are you running at, out of interest? I've heard people say parrying gets weird at some speeds

[honest vortex]

They look a million times cooler than the Marauder. I'll give you that.

I think the Marauder's design is kinda dumb tbh

But Agaddon Hunters look cool as hell.

[hot lava]

Controversial! I find them too easy in comparison

[honest vortex]

120%

[vital rapids]

Hm. Some people relate just what you describe with increased speed but then others don't, I did wonder if speed vs framerate affects it
I am assuming id engines still have fps quirks

[honest vortex]

The game's general shield and parry mechanics and one shot protection system are incredibly buggy and inconsistent.

.... and Cosmic Barons and Agaddon Hunters show this more than any demon in the game. 😞

[fierce sail]

I play 140% and I have no problems with parrying

[glad hinge]

Other things I dislike about the writing are:

• So many in-game radio messages are just....completely redundant, or easily assumable information that doesn't introduce any new ideas. (My personal favorite: "You have been ingested" )

• Codex is completely lackluster. Every demon codex entry can be summed up as: "X is a vile creature born in Y pit of hell. It's life is suffering. It lives to inflict suffering". 2016 is the gold standard for codex entries - because entries had actual viewpoints. You could tell that most codex entries were written by UAC researchers / PR propagandists, cultists, etc. Eternal sort of kept that with it's history book codex entries. Dark Ages completely ditched any nuance by fully adopting a third-person-omnisicent narrator for codex entries

[fierce sail]

did we get today patch note?

[vital rapids]

yeah, it doesn't seem consistent. Hence wondering if certain fps/speed combos are the brown spot

[honest vortex]

Sometimes I even lose my shield permanently ...or blocking won't even register. Like the shield won't respond to any action at all.

[hard thistle]

They're easier but I like them more personally.

[honest vortex]

I think Marauders are waaaay easier tbh. They're just really buggy. But like both enemies are really buggy, so ehhh

[fierce sail]

I use two monitors full hd and 3440x1440, so I have 120 fps and around 200 fps comparision

[vital rapids]

ugh. Not what you want happening in a UN run

[honest vortex]

To be fair. Literally every game in this trilogy makes me feel this way at times.

All three games have some really fucking stupid shit lmao

I was getting extremely upset at 2016's rune trials a week ago, calling it the worst DOOM game ever.

Even though 2016's still my 2nd favorite

Also 2016's weapon wheel is extremely unresponsive on Xbox. (Eternal and TDA have much more responsive weapon wheels.)

Which is extremely irritating

[honest phoenix]

Best part of doom dark ages

Is cosmic realm

[meager vortex]

yes

[frail plaza]

has the best arena fight music

[hollow sandal]

Playing TDA isnt about out putting the most damage 😭

Shit I mean that is alot tho if tru

[slender night]

And why judge them on that front when this discussion is selectively about TDA?

[hollow sandal]

I'm tired of people saying certain guns are bad 😭

Combat shotgun is sick

Pulverizer is fun

[frail plaza]

compared to other weapons some are more shit than others but realistically everyting is viable as long as it suits your playstyle

[hollow sandal]

Yea well said

[real lynx]

I think the pulverizer is probably the least useful weapon by far. All others have a use, but shieldthrow does what the pulverizer does but better

I think the biggest issue is that some weapon upgrade paths are just objectively worse.

Mega cell is better than heat blast, modulator is better than stabilizer. Chronospike is trash, slow burn does way more damage. Blast is useless and flare up can't compete with triple burst

Cooked and cannibalism both have their uses though

Pincushion is also way better than ricochet

[honest vortex]

I love all the guns in Dark Ages a lot. Yes

[delicate grotto]

So anyone know what the new update was? Bug fixes?

[honest vortex]

Literally all the guns are super aesthetically pleasing, sound fantastic, and are hella fun to use

[delicate grotto]

I haven’t been able to check it out myself yet.

[tepid verge]

I got an update notification for dark ages on my PlayStation. Seems like the Berserker trophy is still not working

[honest vortex]

Btw Dark Ages is still my favorite.

Just venting y'all lol

[real lynx]

https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/en-US/article/doom-the-dark-ages-update-1-hotfix

Just a hotfix

[graceful lion]

yeah still working on it

[dim nymph]

I mean, that was beside the point. My grievance was about TDA. I'm not sure why wanting a longstanding bug fixed so I can uninstall the game is such a hot take.

[tepid verge]

No wonder why my game looked super freaking sharp😂 😂 they fixed the sharpness i think

Whenever i booted up the game the game looked super sharp, turns out i had it on max

I guess it was still broken before update 1 hotfix was released

[hollow sandal]

Nah I hear you

[silver bobcat]

So this'll fix the grainy lights on my gigalow settings

[slender night]

It clashes with the general concept that you shouldn't buy games or play them just for trophies, which wanting to uninstall it once you are done with it implies. I did respond to you like I did though because I felt like you worded the statement in such a way that made it seem like the memory size is an abnormality and an issue caused by the game and not by your preferences

I should clarify I don't actually care about the first part and I didn't really expect my response to evolve into much more than just a remark

[hollow sandal]

@honest vortex this guy's mainly uses the pulverizer, it's sick #videos message

[dim nymph]

That's your own assumptions though. I'm not a trophy hunter, but there's games I enjoy enough to want to 100% them. And to be quite honest with you, TDA wasn't one of those games for me. However, it just so happened that Berserker was all I (and many others) needed for Platinum and I've been waiting patiently for Id to address the bug so I can move on. It's just frustrating to get a patch that's supposed to address it, only for the patch itself to be bugged on my platform, then get another patch that doesn't address it at all.

[slender night]

Not my assumptions, like I clarified, my response was due to something else

[dim nymph]

Ah, yeah. Storage space. Which it had nothing to do with. I just like to keep things tidy. 😅

[slender night]

I have an overwhelming majority of my games installed just cuz I like to have things ready

[remote thunder]

more broken, janky, and buggy than Eternal
https://youtu.be/8QhQy1C0Iys

[honest vortex]

Tbh maybe I'm not venting.

The game still keeps pissing me TF off.

There's so much horrible shit in this awful ass game

[remote thunder]

this was uploaded after tag2's release

[honest vortex]

Dark Ages is a weird case where the first playthrough was awesome AF.

But replays, you start getting fed up with how horrendous the game is

[honest vortex]

Tbf. This is a modded encounter.

I'm on Xbox lol

[remote thunder]

it's just an edited .entities file, which is exactly how official master levels work

[honest vortex]

Eternal's an extremely broken game though.

Just Dark Ages is feeling very similar

[hollow sandal]

@honest vortex so Aggadons are ignoring parries??

[honest vortex]

Komodo demons and Cosmic Barons do it the most

[vital rapids]

They need to go somewhere with the bonus content and DLC
I mean - add significant content

[honest vortex]

Komodo demons don't function properly in general.

Fucking horrible enemies

Also Komodo demons seem to one shot you no matter how high your health or armor is

No matter if the one shot protection cool down ended or not

[remote thunder]

out of curiosity, what's your parry window set to?

[honest vortex]

They ignore blocks in general....

Or they'll break your shield instantly.

No matter how well you timed the parry

[real lynx]

One shot protection is so broken in TDA

[delicate grotto]

The changes they made to the first set of levels for the game are great.

Also agreed. Komodos have an awesome concept, and I like their combat design. But it’d be great if they’d function better. Runs into you a ton when you try to bait its attack, and sometimes it takes forever to give you an opening.

[honest vortex]

I know there's a 60 second cool down, but it keeps happening even when the one shot protection wasn't even used yet. 😭

[remote thunder]

eternal also has attacks that do this

[honest vortex]

Tbh. Default. Parrying and blocking works fine on most enemies except for Cosmic Barons, Komodo demons, and sometimes Agaddon Hunters

[honest vortex]

I know. Eternal's also an extremely broken game. Lmfao

[frail plaza]

The damage is just kinda fucked in general tbh, had a time where i dashed into a dead mancubus and somehow died, no attacks from anywhere and if i did get hit had enough health to survive regardless

[remote thunder]

this might be a framerate thing (higher fps = more granularity in terms of registering your "real world" parry timing) and a case of said enemies having limited parry frames on their attacks

[honest vortex]

Though TDA also feels like it has 2016 Nightmare levels of damage values.

Unlike Eternal where damage was generally much lower.

Of course you can change it with sliders, but yeah

[frail bloom]

Lol bro did a 180

Emotions can be so strong

[honest vortex]

Where I went from glazing to dunking on the game?

[vital rapids]

this was my thinking. Frame rates/factors thereof have had magic powers in many idtech games

[frail bloom]

Ye lol

If it's bugs they will be fixed

[honest vortex]

I'm on Xbox Series X, so I'd have 60 FPS

[frail bloom]

Not representative of the game a year from now

[remote thunder]

say an attack only has one parriable frame (this is how souls games handle it) and you parry almost at the end of a frame, say at like 14ms/16.67ms at 60fps

[vital rapids]

doh, so you can't even limit it to see if it helps

[honest vortex]

Not just that, but the buffering system and slow motions are awful too

[frail bloom]

Buffering? Like

[honest vortex]

I hate when it buffers an extra melee during a slow mo, so you can't parry in time, getting you fucked in the end.

Seen a lot of people complain about it tbh

[frail bloom]

I think that's cuz you're spamming it

Or it might be a bug idk

[hardy pelican]

Has anyone removed the slayers helmet during cutscenes yet? I really want to know if they animated facial expressions during the cutscenes

[remote thunder]

if your parry in this situation is registered as having started at the beginning of that frame despite the real world timing, it could cause seemingly bullshit situations

my take on the input buffer is that it could be shorter, but not mashing the melee button also solves this problem

[vital rapids]

melee buffering?
I kinda worry about them attempting to fix this, as there's some scope for changes to melee getting weird

[frail bloom]

I will say, my parries sometimes don't register after a melee

It happens a lot on hell knights

[dim nymph]

It's generally the same for me, to an extent.

[honest vortex]

But atleast Hugo Martin said they're working on making it so you can turn off the slow mos

[remote thunder]

because the melee buffer is so generous, timing isn't relevant. no reason to mash. you just need to count how many hits you want

[vital rapids]

💯 I think we've all had a memorable parry go missing at some point

guess I could be wrong

[honest vortex]

I'm kinda torn on the slow mo though.

On one hand, it adds more impact and satisfaction to your attacks....

But on the other hand, it's really obnoxious and overdone

[frail bloom]

I guess? Depends on how much it annoys you

[vital rapids]

Yeah. the slow mo effect when you are parrying waves of projectiles seems quite useful

[frail bloom]

I'll try turning it off when the update comes to see how different it is

[honest vortex]

It can be really obnoxious tbh.

[heavy python]

Another update another day without berserker trophy

[sudden stump]

slow mo replaces the "breather" you'd get from glory kills except you have full control, making it an option is needed though for those who don't want breathers

[honest vortex]

It hurts the combat flow a lot IMO

[frail bloom]

Welp, if yu turn it off, don't complain when yu can't see the million projectiles behind yu

[remote thunder]

kind of a toxic take but i think the input buffer getting people to self report as mashers is really funny

[frail bloom]

It is

[vital rapids]

I haven't played without it, but will try it
I can see weaving getting broken by no slow mo, though

[frail bloom]

But mashing is kinda sorta fun

[vital rapids]

by weaving, I mean when you parry successive waves of fire, with the game slowed down
not sure how well this works at full speed

[frail bloom]

Lol who can I glaze the game with now

[sudden stump]

that would probably very from person to person, some people can plan the parries ahead of time and react fine

[frail bloom]

Unc lobster is angry

[ancient trout]

It's good imo because you can look around freely during the slowed down time

[vital rapids]

yeah, this is why I'm thinking suck it and see
I played quake for years, it is probably not faster than that

[frail bloom]

That's what I think too, I look around constantly to make use of it

[ancient trout]

It helps for spotting guys that are coming at you so you can reposition yourself somewhere safer

[vital rapids]

yeah, head on a swivel is good in this

[frail bloom]

But I will try the no slo mo, just to see for myself

[dim nymph]

There's a prison joke in there somewhere, but I'm too tired to make the attempt.

[frail bloom]

If it's a slider, that would be cool too

Instead of just a toggable

[ancient trout]

Yeah it would definitely be a good addition, I don't see why they shouldn't

[frail bloom]

They'll do it for sure

Mayo has been talking abt having all your melee with yu in real time

And the 3 options would be switched by a button like your grenades in eternal

Would be really cool

Wouldn't have to use the menu as much

[vital rapids]

I'm not sure how well that would work under the hood, but I'd love it
as this would add depth to the game

[ancient trout]

Like Devil May Cry...

[frail bloom]

I think it would work on console at the very least. Some buttons just aren't assigned with anything like your arrow buttons on the left side of the controller

Idk abt pc but they can figure it out

Man when does hugo come back

https://tenor.com/view/sad-pablo-lonely-alone-gif-12928789

[graceful dragon]

is anyone else experiencing an issue on level 21 where you do not load in on the mech? i can't complete the level

[half plaza]

Restart the game

[graceful dragon]

my whole run? im on ultra nightmare, every time i try to reset the level i am still out of the mech

[harsh egret]

i mean they kinda did that on purpose to sorta make the game less of a button-mashing game like eternal can feel sometimes, aka less buttons to press

but maybe im wrong and could work, but kinda just makes the game slowly go back to how eternal is in terms of that, especially when it comes to dlc stuff they might add

[next thistle]

Just beat the "Hell Hallway" on ToL on Pandemonium Nightmare run. Used the RL and Dreadmace !

[graceful dragon]

wish i could share a video of this, i wonder if the team knows about this bug

im walking around the battlefield shooting at the giants, but cant kill them

[jovial wraith]

Anyone know if they've done a performance patch for PS5 yet?

[cinder estuary]

I think I found out the strongest weapon in the game undisputed

[oblique mantle]

Anyone getting an issue with the keyboard not working at all after the latest PC patch?

Menus work ok, but once in-game.. I can look around with the mouse, but no keybinds work at all.. not even Esc. Had to ALT F4 to get out

[graceful lion]

not yet

[silent surge]

missed pun “Hellway”

[compact oxide]

guys ı have it on my gamepass xbox app pc ı cant play it ı tried 762 things from chat gpt and its still not working even deleted my kaspersky

that is the error code Anti-Tamper: 88500005

is there and solutions fixes?

[jolly geyser]

lol drm is fun

[compact oxide]

drm?

can u help me with my error

last time reinstalling then ı am done with this

[jolly geyser]

with Denuvo, it could be a number of things. Your install of game, the xbox app, your firewall, your computer files, literally a dozen things to check that error. So idk tbh.

[oblique raft]

I brought my game on stream i haven't brought Xbox game pass for while now

[frail bloom]

Well why not, it would add depth. It's not like you're required to switch between 3 melee it's there for those who want more options

If someone button mashes it's on them

[next thistle]

Rats !! Hahaha

[frail bloom]

Damn

[harsh egret]

Yeah prepare for wall of text

[frail bloom]

Uh oh

[harsh egret]

I meant more so adding too many buttons to press compared to what they would like to have in their game, they purposely made things like that and melee something u have to choose between and stick to until u wanna change it in the menu. They wanted to avoid that since its smth similar to switching between the nade and icebomb in eternal, to streamline it. But yh, it would be one button and not 2 u need to press like in eternal, so maybe it could work, just kinda starts to defeat the design philosophy of this game in a sense.
I would be fine with them adding that imo ofc, but just tryina look at it from a devs perspective i guess idk

[silent surge]

gotta be ready for that!!

[frail bloom]

I mean, adding one button to switch on the fly isn't really an issue, it's much more convenient than the menu. It could be one button that yu use to switch the 3. It wouldn't be melee quickswitching it would just be a realtime melee switch. It would just be a button addition for smt like one arrow button on the controller. Not a big ask, and not required either.

Doing tasks would also be much more convenient, I can just switch on the fly and not the menu

[honest vortex]

I might start glazing again soon.

I get like this with every DOOM game from time to time lol

[frail bloom]

Bruh just control your emotions and be like me

I'm perfect

[honest vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/boredmemes-cultonape-notacult-cult-cult-on-ape-gif-7135856719208155913

[frail bloom]

-Ly stupid

Lol

[honest vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-nooice-bling-key-and-peele-gif-4294979

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/hugo-martin-doom-doom-eternal-doom-2016-giga-chad-gif-8667813971741982445

Me rn

[honest vortex]

Makes me sad because this was happening on a replay of Reckoning.

Lmao. One of my favorite missions

[frail bloom]

If it's bugs, they'll patch it

[harsh egret]

Yh which is why i mentioned for me i would be down for that.
Just maybe down the road could be too much depending what they do in dlc. Maybe its actually smth they add WITH the dlc, who knows.

[frail bloom]

This game WILL be better this coming year

[frail bloom]

Sure, it would just be a cool addition. I can't wait for what they'll introduce in dlc too

They can improve on everything

Very possible to surpass the campaign

[honest vortex]

Maybe though Eternal was extremely buggy its entire game life.

Like even 1 week ago when I replayed it, it was ridiculously buggy lol

They "fixed" some of the bugs, but not really.

2016's the only one of the trilogy that doesn't feel all that buggy

[frail bloom]

Tell Hugo when he comes back he loves feedback

[honest vortex]

Tbf 2016 is also the simplest, so it was harder to make it buggy

[harsh egret]

I just like that they seem to have a better plan on what they will update the game with when it comes to master levels, horde mode maybe, dlc, and whatever else Mayo said they are planning to add like some cool features people are gonna like or smth

[honest vortex]

Though Summoner wave beam attacks are ridiculously buggy ALL THE TIME in 2016.

The only consistently buggy enemy in that game

[frail bloom]

Mayo is edging us with the cool features

[harsh egret]

Hahah yep

[frail bloom]

I WANNA KNOW

[honest vortex]

But you also don't fight Summoners all that much in 2016

[frail bloom]

Summoners are a piece of cake just stun bomb ssg

[harsh egret]

I also dont like how Kaiser was teasing a bit yesterday

[honest vortex]

MuricanEagle can...but he's just a God. So

[frail bloom]

What did he say again

[harsh egret]

I told bro to blink twice if master level coming next month and like 5 mins later he reacted to a diff msg of mine with the 👀 emoji then took it away instantly

And he reacted to another msg as well, dont remember what it said, then took away the reaction instantly

[frail bloom]

But he doesn't work there anymore how does he know

[honest vortex]

On VEGA Core you can't really catch them very well, since they have so many hiding spots and paths to teleport and hide to.

They also spawn super far away in a hiding spot..so by the time you chet to them they would have already teleporting away, since they're super mobile and always dodging and teleporting 24/7

[harsh egret]

Im sure its smth they talked about before lol

I dont think they make an update plan on the fly after release xd

[frail bloom]

Ohhhhh so they plan this stuff

Duuuhhh

[harsh egret]

I would assume so, sounds like the professional thing to do

[honest vortex]

I wish shield didn't break so easily anyway.

It makes the bugs where the game doesn't register parries or blocks even worse lol

[harsh egret]

New modifier for shield damage recieved inc

[honest vortex]

I'm surprised they didn't add that tbh

Though they probably will

[harsh egret]

sounds like smth they could add

[honest vortex]

For what it's worth. I'll still glaze Infernal Chasm @frail bloom

[frail bloom]

Awww hell yeah

Lobster man don't worry it will be alright in the end

[honest vortex]

Maybe.

Might be a Linkin Park In the End it doesn't even matter moment

Hopefully it's not doe

[oblique mantle]

just in case anyone had keyboard problems after the the latest patch - it turned out the game wiped literally every key binding - I had to go in and reset it to default for all sub-areas (slayer, atlas, menu etc.) - annoying!

[cinder estuary]

Dude

[hollow sandal]

It's over?

[cinder estuary]

The stomp is the most broken weapon on the game.

AoE, cooldownless Falter on ANY enemy

[sonic turret]

What's the new update like, are there noticeable differences?

[cinder estuary]

Was there an update?

[sonic turret]

Yeah, it's just started downloading.

[sonic turret]

V. 1.005

[cinder estuary]

Huh?

[sonic turret]

"Update 1 Hotfix is now available on all platforms and resolves degraded visuals appearing as increased graininess and/or blurriness in some video settings configurations. Shoutout to our community for helping identify the issue, so we could quickly address it!" - Joshua Boyle

[hollow sandal]

I think it was just visuals. You probably already knew that. But I haven't seen yet

[fierce river]

dark ages got an update tdy? what is it

[hollow sandal]

Ok yea you knew

[frail bloom]

Ahh so I won't see the little dots anymore

[hollow sandal]

@vital violet

[frail bloom]

Sweet

[sonic turret]

No, I just looked it up just now.

[fierce river]

thanks

[sonic turret]

Took less than a minute to download.

[hollow sandal]

How do you pronounce your username?

[cinder estuary]

Rosu

[hard thistle]

u don't

Casually listening to the ost while on the bus and walking to college/gym

[astral ravine]

ngl

is it just me or is the optional battle inside cthulu's stomach the hardest fight in the game?

[delicate grotto]

Reminds me of the sadistic shit you’d see in Eternal’s MLs. I love it.

[astral ravine]

like, holy shit, that fight really cemented how much more terrifying revenants in this game are compared to 2016 and eternal

and when I meet the soldier that buffs all the demons inside that encounter I took my sweet time to make it suffer

like
armored mancubus: piss easy
whiplash + armored hell knight: hell knight is easy, but fuck that whiplash homing projectile in a place where you can barely maneuver
2 revenants: JESUS CHRIST. You better pray you're able to stunlock one of them with a saw and not evade it before they kill you first

[shell gull]

would an i3-12100f and RTX 3050 (6gb) and 16 gb of ram be able to run dark ages relativlely well?

with DLSS included

and changing some graphics options

[graceful lion]

well, i believe so, yeah

a 2060 non super with 6 gigs and a ryzen 9 5900x run tda at like 90+ fps on low settings, 1.5gb texture pool size, and ultra perf 1080p dlss

[hollow sonnet]

hey, do we have confirmation of there being more games coming in the future

[shell gull]

im only looking for 60 fps since my monitors 60 hz

[graceful lion]

yeah, but i believe tag 2 seems to just finish his story at that timeline

[shell gull]

so can i bump up the graphics a bit?

[graceful lion]

oh ur golden then, yes

[shell gull]

ok thanks

[hollow sonnet]

i just need more doom games in the future and ill be happy

[solid nacelle]

Is anybody else having problems with video captures on xbox? I try and record, say the last 30 seconds, and it will only record like 8 seconds and the audio will be completely de-synced. Wasn't like this before today's update.

[graceful lion]

just do trial and error until it works

[solid nacelle]

Also I'm pretty sure the skip button is bugged

[astral ravine]

god

I'm dreading ultra nightmare run
and going back to that optional encounter in cthulhu's stomach

[mellow ice]

In closed locations up to 80 fps. DLSS ultra performance. In open locations, there will be freezes. Graphics settings - low

[honest vortex]

What is

[delicate grotto]

More like strong hints. We can assume TDA kicks off a new trilogy focusing on the Slayer Testaments. Although nothing has been confirmed officially. Just speculation.

[honest vortex]

Hugo Martin did say he wanted to make more "Medieval stories" IIRC

[graceful lion]

hugo says alot of things

[honest vortex]

Tru

[frail bloom]

If we get a slayers testaments game, I will be happy forever

The simplicity yet the spectacle

Man it's right there

I can taste the peak

[real crater]

"kill 75 demons while under the influence"

[cinder estuary]

I finally understand the pulverizer

It let's you get stomp falters all the fucking time

[frail bloom]

Now we gotta understand the shredder

That ain't happening

[cinder estuary]

Highest single target dps In the game

Pincushion

[real crater]

good automatic weapon early game then you get a plasma rifle and never use it again

[frail bloom]

What abt the accelerator

[real crater]

on the first playthrough at least

[cinder estuary]

You clearly didn't play the game enough

[real crater]

thats right

still not halfway through my 3rd playthrough

[cinder estuary]

It's better vs no armor enemies with the tighter spread and faster spray

But the shredder is overall a better weapon

You get both the aor and the high asf dps on pincushion, while the accelerator you either get the aoe burst OR the insane dps

[frail bloom]

Hmmm

I'll try upgrading it then, to the max, and play around

[cinder estuary]

It's a p mediocre weapon on the mid game, but it's insane on late game

It's also ok early game

The accelerator is terrible early and mid, but gets insane on late game

[frail bloom]

Ehh I disagree I melted the agaddon champion in 10 seconds with that thing

[cinder estuary]

The shredder and the accelerator have the top 2 highest single target dps in the game.

The cycler is a support weapon w super low dps but incredible buff potential.

[frail bloom]

I just know how to use it good

Nah jk yu probably know how to too

It just speaks to me y'know

[cinder estuary]

The accelerator is great

But really risky, since for arenas you need to constantly be on the middle to maximize the aoe

It's braindead on 1v1s tho

[frail bloom]

I alternate between the accelearator and impaler

I love doing this thing, where I shield throw, instantly call it back, impaler, rinse repeat

It stunlocks ALL heavies

Superheavies don't care abt that tho lol they just bumrush you

[cinder estuary]

You can falter the superheavies if you recall the shield and it hits them when it's returning

[serene wind]

even vagary champions 😉

[frail bloom]

With this knowledge I have become a god

[north spire]

i like the pulveriser :)

and the chainshot :)

[cinder estuary]

I need to make a video

Or convince someone to make a video about the stomp. I've been playing some UN and Pandemonium runs and that shit is actually batshit insane

As long as you keep moving and faltering with the stomp you get massive openings

It also heats up shields and clears fodder instantly

[honest vortex]

Alright I'm having a lot of fun with TDA again

[frail bloom]

[honest vortex]

@frail bloom I might be ready to glaze again

[frail bloom]

Muh king is ready to glaze once more

[honest vortex]

Also I was loving fighting Agaddon Hunters, Cosmic Barons, and Komodo demons this time a lot. Because the game was being a lot more consistent rn lol

Agaddon Hunters are infinitely more fun than Marauders when the game isn't being dum lul

Also yes, it's still my favorite DOOM by a large amount even.

2016 #2 of course. But like a distant #2

[frail bloom]

Lol

"I can see it being the worst doom game GRRRRRRRR"

[honest vortex]

I will always hate fighting Cacodemons in this game though.

They look cool though.

[frail bloom]

Just shield throw and unload muh man

[honest vortex]

Hard to sometimes when his six billion purple astronomically large projectiles are blocking him all the time

You can't block them either because it breaks your shield.... and it's nearly impossible to dodge the giant purple projectiles in hectic fights

They're also invulnerable when in the animation of deploying a projectile

Sure you can reflect their green shots from time to time, but they don't do those projectiles all that often.

It also feels like Cacodemons ignore one shot protection?

Though hottake. I might like their design more than any other Cacodemon design. Aesthetically speaking

[vital rapids]

I hadn't noticed this. Big deal potentially, thanks

[eager stone]

Maybe just a skill issue? (Nah I’m joking you don’t have a skill issue)

[honest vortex]

I can't decide if Cosmic Barons or 2016 Barons are my favorite Barons aesthetically.

[vital rapids]

Dude throwing the git gud shield

[honest vortex]

Probably 2016 Baron a little bit overall?

[vital rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-saw-shield-shield-saw-gif-883707175414094602

[honest vortex]

Though fighting them, I might like fighting the Cosmic Barons more than literally any Baron in the series to combat.

As long as they're not being buggy.

Getting sick ass parry, melee, shield bash, shield runes, shoot chains on Cosmic Barons is just more satisfying than what you can do with the other Barons.

[barren warren]

i actually like how frequently they attack, i don’t have to sit around and wait for them

[vital rapids]

Music is transformed by the new mix tbh

[honest vortex]

They also have various different variety types of projectiles. Rather than just throwing a fireball in the same way all the time

[vital rapids]

This game, man.
I'm having fun like I haven't really had fun in an FPS in years.

[barren warren]

big fan of the green one surrounded by purple waves

not so much the randomized crescents

[willow beacon]

Now that I’m kinda good at the combat this game is so much fun

[vital rapids]

I'm okish to bad at the combat and it's fun

[willow beacon]

I beat it on UV for my first play through where I wasn’t great, now I’m going through again and it’s so much more fun now

[willow beacon]

It was still fun when I was bad, but I absolutely love it now

[eager stone]

I wonder what doom eternal on crack (combat wise) would be like

[willow beacon]

Honestly Tda at 150%. Eternal feels slow now

[honest vortex]

Generally that's me. But I had such a negative experience earlier today. But it's over now. Lol

It's super fun again

[vital rapids]

When you are stringing things together right it's just 🤌

[honest vortex]

But currently it's probably my favorite video game in general.

#1. Not even just FPS

[eager stone]

speeds the game up by 1.5x “I wanna do quicker” ):<

[vital rapids]

Boom, smack, blast, smash, kill, turn, boom, charge, ssg, melee, parry. When the rhythm sets in just right

[honest vortex]

2016 is my second favorite game.

3rd I almost want to say DOOM 64 or DOOM II with WADs, but I have included enough DOOM, so I'll just say Yakuza 0 or Lost Judgment are #3

[muted yarrow]

[honest vortex]

Shadow Warrior 2 and 3 are absolutely killer as well.

Same for Titanfall 2.

Those 3 are some honorable mentions.

F.E.A.R. 1 is also great

[vital rapids]

F.E.A.R ... word

[honest vortex]

Unironically think it has the deepest combat in a DOOM game.

The way you can use the melee system chaining with bashes, melee weapons, perks, runes, canceling, tossing, catching, and shooting is unreal

Probably deepest and most satisfying combat in an FPS in general

[honest vortex]

Yeah F.E.A.R. is super rad

Do y'all like Titanfall 2 or DOOM: The Dark Ages more?

For me Dark Ages wins.

But of course Titanfall 2 is fantastic as well.

[vital rapids]

I still think Quake multiplayer has this, but that's a fuckin high bar tbf.
TDA is also sublime

[honest vortex]

Okay....

TDA has the deepest and most satisfying combat in a single player FPS

[real crater]

i was stuck on an arena after i killed everything and it turned out a stalker imp was engaging in self-immolation before i came into its line of sight and it fired at me

[honest vortex]

TDA probably has the best melee in any FPS as well

Though Shadow Warrior 2 and 3 have really fucking dope ass melee combat as well.

[hard thistle]

Doing DOOM TDA on Nightmare without sentinel-shrine upgrades (as part of a challenge run I'm doing) gives SSG some serious competition ngl

[delicate grotto]

I agree, I just wish the game was balanced around its toolset a bit better. Then it’d really shine. Hoping DLC does this.
The changes they made to the first 5 or so missions feel great, and massively improve its gameplay/flow.

[vital rapids]

You know... yeah it really is S tier

[hard thistle]

Under usual circumstances TDA's SSG is no. 1 no doubt for me, but without upgrades, I quickswap a bit more often. Chainshot is also cool as fuck

[honest vortex]

The Cyberdemon is SOOO fucking to fight.

I do hate his aimbot hitscan attack.

But my God he's extremely fantastic overall

[vital rapids]

I haven't even got any chainshot playstyles together yet
Just cracked it out to hammer a cyber every now and then

[hard thistle]

When in melee range he's much easier, almost feels like a chump

[honest vortex]

Best Cyberdemon ever.

He's like the 2016 Cyberdemon with a lot more variety.

[honest vortex]

He's so fun to do crazy melee and parry combos on.

Also he's ridiculously cool looking

[primal dagger]

can someone help me PLEASE ive been trying off and on for week to do Twitch drops and still today I can't get it to progress or show up at ALL. is there any steps needed? I have my account twitch linked to Bethesda account and psn account.

[honest vortex]

Looks like the Eternal/Classic Cyberdemon but with the edge and intimidation of the 2016 and DOOM 64 Cyberdemon.

Looks like they mixed with the Vassago from Legacy of Rust

[vital rapids]

Yeah. I have had a cyberdemon fight bug out before, that was a crap death
But I am happy when I see one, love how he looks like the old ones

[honest vortex]

He can be buggy from time to time. But yeah he's masterpiece overall.

??? How was making a list ....spa---

Whatever, VEGA lol

[frail bloom]

Lol keep in mind this guy was malding earlier, at least we're happy lol he was being a debbie downer earlier

[honest vortex]

I think it's because I put a bunch of "-" to accentuate how distant last place the Doom 3 Cyberdemon design is.

[frail bloom]

It is not indicative of him as a person btw it's just funny

[honest vortex]

I think Dork Lord saw it tbh. IIRC

[vital rapids]

Yeh I was there. Part of the natural ebb and flow of the game imo

[honest vortex]

In all honesty. This is just par for the course for literally every DOOM game

[frail bloom]

Eh I still love 2016's the most. Which makes sense, bc he is a boss, so it is unfair to compare the two anyway

[honest vortex]

Every DOOM game has some really really fucking stupid shit or stupid things about them happen from time to time

[frail bloom]

But tda's cyber is better than whatever eternal's was for me

Gosh it looks so damn ugly

The only time where the classic look just looked off

[honest vortex]

Well ...I like doing crazy melee shenanigans on the TDA one too much lol

[real crater]

least tda cyber has a reason to be tanky unlike eternal's

[frail bloom]

Not gameplay literally just looks

I love balgaars

Anyways gotta pick weeds

[honest vortex]

I didn't like how Eternal's classic designs translated to Eternal's graphics in general.

It looked very off ... and lacked the charm and intimidation.

I guess the Cacos and Soldiers were decent looking in Eternal

They are like 3D plastic toy bootlegs of what the Classic games made .

Idk

Dark Ages demons generally feel inspired by the classic demon designs but in a MUCH cooler and less....off. way

[real crater]

eternal is a very vibrant game in general they had to be bright and colorful

[honest vortex]

It's not that

I love Eviternity and Ancient Aliens and Sunlust and shiz.

Just looks weird in Eternal's graphics for whatever reason

[honest vortex]

Like the Eternal demons even look....off and lacking something even on Final Sin and UAC Atlantica Facility, ya know the more dark, realistic, and less colorful missions

[vital rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-lewis-phantom-of-the-opera-big-eyes-gif-11993186

[wind dew]

What was the update today?

[real crater]

extra space

[vital rapids]

A fix for some low detail people were seeing

[real crater]

now i have 20 gb left on my xbox

they better not update it much more

or ima have to delete doom eternal

[wind dew]

Or delete something else

Deleting Doom is a sin

[real crater]

i dont got anything else besides doom eternal that takes up as much space as tda does besides gta 5 but i need gta 5 for when i have a random urge to drive

[real crater]

there's 9 circles of hell right

[vital rapids]

Yeah. Cyber and Imp Stalker particularly
Caco not, but I don't mind this caco

[honest vortex]

Yeah Caco is definitely completely different, same for the Baron 😂

Though this Baron is probably my favorite or second favorite Baron design in the series

[tired rock]

Eternal's texture looks plastic-y

[honest vortex]

Hard to choose between 2016 or TDA's Baron aesthetically

[honest vortex]

Same for the lighting and materials and use of contrast.

It's all flat and plasticy and sterile.

[silent surge]

finishing move interview done
they’re great guys

[tired rock]

OH SHIT, WHEN???

[silent surge]

we just got off the video call less than an hour ago

hopefully up soon!

[stiff bear]

What’s up im new to the server

[vital rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/borat-borat-very-nice-verynice-thumbs-up-gif-25080066

[tired rock]

Hey lad

[tired rock]

If we CAN get a sneak peak into the whole topic, did you also talk about the whole mixing process of the ost?

The gears and whatnot.

I am a sucker for these stuff

[silent surge]

we hit about 35 min of chat unedited, talking about the music design, working with hugo, influences, their studio cats. a lot

[harsh egret]

Fm interview? Hell yeah im looking forward to that

[silent surge]

they’re great guys

[peak gazelle]

Bros I need help, the game stopped working after updating it about 2 weeks ago. I have it on game pass pc

[tired rock]

Should've wrote the most important part in bold letters, the studio cats.

But nonetheless, very excited to see em talking. I wish they make a longer video format of their short reels talking about how they got the guitar tone that vile sounding in the mix, etc.

[silent surge]

we did talk about the murderbox and talharpa

[peak gazelle]

Doesn't launch and says: "Something went wrong". It gives me a link for a support page that says anti-temper, something is probably interfering with it and causing this anti-tamper bullshit

[frail bloom]

Oh my god ty so much when is it up

I wanna them to talk abt classic doom references

[vital rapids]

I'd raise this with Bethesda - they probably know things that might cause this by now

[frail bloom]

What they'll do for dkc

How they deal with constructive vs negative criticism

[silent surge]

we did touch on that
whenever i can have it edited, id like to have it up this weekend or so is the goal

@frail bloom i didn’t ask about dlc cause i figured there would be a NDA

[frail bloom]

Did yu see message up top too

Construcive vs negative criticism

[silent surge]

didn’t really come up that much

alex said he likes my videos so that was a cool moment

[frail bloom]

I'm so happy

[silent surge]

yeah i def wanna get this one online. fun time

[tired rock]

Oh wait you're THAT Allstin? I happen to watched your videos lmao

[silent surge]

ayyyy

[tired rock]

Good shit man

[frail bloom]

Wait so my game shouldn't look grainy anymore right

[silent surge]

we talked about metal and influences

[frail bloom]

Boutta boot up the game

I also think I heard a damnation reference in Blood Red

The rising female choir, not the heavy part, suspenful part

[tired rock]

My fav part

[silent surge]

i wish more people would give them a chance

[frail bloom]

I am!!! Can't wait for dlc

[cobalt fog]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1377133325369741463/1382870380137414757/IMG_0224.mov?ex=684cb9e7&is=684b6867&hm=d2d8f71f74e7700a6a28a0a8ddaeb3d1606f07ec59e6242d305a9bec2af176db&

[tired rock]

It's hard to fill in a shoe of Mick Gordon, and also people are hard to satisfy, try to please everyone and you ended up pleasing none.

[oblique raft]

Nightmare is kinda easy

[woven jolt]

yeah, it's the easiest modern doom game by a bit, i recommend using the sliders if nightmare is easy for you

[oblique raft]

How do I do that

[frail bloom]

Doom 2016 is only harder cuz it's bull

But siege mode trivializes arenas

[woven jolt]

somewhere in settings, not hard to find

[tired rock]

Oh yeah, the thing that also makes people say that they can't hear the music during combat is probably the fact that default audio setting of the game had the music sliders on 70% while the game master volume is 90%💀

I just noticed that few days ago, hence probably why I can't hear it for the first half of my 1st playthrough

[oblique raft]

Ok thanks man I'm trying to unlock all skin

[real lynx]

I saw your enemy ranking

[hollow sandal]

It's not tho

[oblique raft]

You just got to keep practicing

[real lynx]

NGL barons don't scare me, komodos, agaddons and enhanced ahzrak will ruin your day tho

[hollow sandal]

🫡

[real crater]

komodo is just a walking "rest in piss lol" sign directed at you

[oblique raft]

I love a challenge so that why I'm doing it on nightmare

[woven jolt]

even on the smallest parry window on nightmare, it's still not that hard

[real lynx]

Nightmare is pretty easy

[oblique raft]

I know I died couple times i just have to be patient

[tired rock]

1. It's slow as hell if you spend more time in Eternal
2. Everything is complicated to get with the rune challenge shit
3. In comparison, Eternal glory kills can save your ass way easier because you can go fron 5hp to like 40hp + blood punch came in clutch A LOT of time. In 2016, glory kills only give you 5hp. Only 5, seriously.

No matter what size

[frail bloom]

Ye and the increased accuracy

Not fun

[real lynx]

5 is crazy

[oblique raft]

What about ultra nightmare

[real lynx]

i mean I cheesed it so

[tired rock]

But Doom 2016 easiest aspect are the boss, I mean... BFG + weapon wheel

[oblique raft]

How did u do that

[tired rock]

TDA Un is actually quite forgiving but I'm telling ya, level 13 so on and so forth is gonna get you, seriously.

[oblique raft]

The only thing I hate about doom 2016 is upgrade the runes

[real lynx]

Enhanced asscrack is the run ender

[oblique raft]

Some how i unlock nightmare slayer skin i never beat nightmare

[primal dagger]

ok wtf is going on with the Twitch drops i wasted another hour and still nothing

[frank turtle]

I'm in love with commander thira ngl ...

[oblique raft]

I never knew they do twitch drops

[primal dagger]

yeah well theyre broken

they don't work

[oblique raft]

Why?

[primal dagger]

people on google said same thing

[oblique raft]

Oh wow

[primal dagger]

they don't progress at all to get don't even show up

[frail bloom]

Brother

[oblique raft]

That stupid

[primal dagger]

yep ive been trying week or so different ways everything

[frail bloom]

Yu gotta stay focused my guy

[honest vortex]

"Worst" game of the modern trilogy and really crappy music BTW:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1043033811941863475/1382873817139118254/f102d87e-587f-42da-a0bc-24ec8677275b_1.mp4?ex=684cbd1a&is=684b6b9a&hm=22d702748909e0ef80ff3c7ca03579639c18c877d4cf57e3464a9ce3ab9e6083&

[honest vortex]

Delicious Cyberdemon combo.

[frail bloom]

That looks rlly cool ngl

[honest vortex]

Especially the Cyberdemon part.

I fucking love fighting those guys

But thanks!

[oblique raft]

Why does people hate new doom dark ages music

[honest vortex]

Dunno. I like it more than Eternal's music and almost as much as 2016's

[oblique raft]

I like all doom games music

[frail bloom]

I like it more than 2016 but less than eternal

Dlc may prove to be really exceptional if they follow through

[oblique raft]

I only hate marauders in doom eternal

[frank turtle]

nah but fr she's just a really cool character

[frail bloom]

Ehhh they're fine

Buffed one in bloodswamps is aids tho

[oblique raft]

They are annoying in secret encounter

[frail bloom]

She's alr. I hope they do a bit more with her, valens, maroks and noviks personalities and character

[astral ravine]

I honestly want david levy and andrew back at least for the dlc

[oblique raft]

I can't wait for doom dark ages dlc

[frank turtle]

yeah I'm interested in her sentinel god power

[frail bloom]

Idk I think FM might be doing dlc but not to worry they might do better in the dlc then the base campaign

Based on feedback and honing their new vision

It's also for tonal continuity

[oblique raft]

Doom dark ages is before Doom 2016

[frail bloom]

Ok so

[oblique raft]

Im just saying just keep my opinion to myself for now on

[frail bloom]

Why what happened

That was a fact not opinion I just don't know what that has to do with the convo

[hard thistle]

I don't think FM needs to do better in the DLC. Their base game work was amazing.

[astral ravine]

their works are great, its just that there's not much variety in the tracks

[frail bloom]

Yeah amazing but not perfect, I think some more references, and a bit more melody and I'm set

And that, variety is the biggest issue

[honest vortex]

I like most. Though I don't really like Eternal's or DOOM II's music that much.

Unless it's a Custom WAD. Custom WADs for DOOM II have some godlike music like Ancient Aliens.

[frail bloom]

The boss tracks are just eh for me, besides from the ashes

[real lynx]

How come hulshult didn't come back for tda

[astral ravine]

What I really love about the DLC track is where levy and andrew's style difference blend together
like, hulshult goes for more slow, heavy rythm for the superheavy fights while david goes for balls to the walls synth intensity

[real lynx]

Too big a project for solo?

[oblique raft]

Which dlc

[astral ravine]

eternal

[honest vortex]

That's not an opinion. It's literally a prequel.

Like you're objectively correct

[oblique raft]

It's was before 2016 that all im saying

[frail bloom]

Like why does writher and writhe have no mayker synth

[astral ravine]

Like, finishing move may not be as impactful as mick gordon, but from the ashes has got to be my most favorite title card ost from the new doom games

[frail bloom]

I just hope they include more references, write some melodies for most of them bc the ones with melodies in this ost GO HARD, and include some variety when it's appropiate

[honest vortex]

I mean you are right. But how is that an opinion. That's what I'm confused about

[frail bloom]

That's all I'm asking

[oblique raft]

Im not very good at conversation sorry

[frail bloom]

Me neither I'm hopeless in-person convo

[astral ravine]

oh and infernal chasm is one of my most favorite ost in this game

like, whenever I hear that during the hell sections I just wish the whole fight never ends

when the fight ends I just go "damn, I wanted more"

[frail bloom]

Mhmmm

[silent surge]

we talked about the topic of references

[frail bloom]

Sweet, did they reveal stuff we never knew,

What abt that doom 2 cue track that never released

[oblique raft]

Im sorry I changed the subject

[frail bloom]

Nah you're good don't be sorry

[oblique raft]

Im struggling on nightmare on doom dark ages

[frail bloom]

Huh you said it was easy

[astral ravine]

probably got in a section that's exceptionally difficult

[oblique raft]

I died couple times im only doing it for slayer skin

[astral ravine]

oh that's not too bad

that optional encounter in the stomach stage had me dying like, 20 times

ngl, when I die in this game, I don't feel frustrated at all. Its like I want to redo the whole fight.
Unless its an ambush attach from a nightmare imp, then that makes me rage as hell

if you know that one stage, that one cyberdemon's that's guarded by 3 invisible imps, I absolutely hate that

because of my low graphics settings I don't even know if those invisible imps are dead or not

[honest vortex]

Oh. That's fair.

[honest vortex]

If I said Infernal Chasm is one of my favorite OSTs in ANY game.

Would that be crazy?

[oblique raft]

I said it was kinda easy

[frail bloom]

Yes

But is your opinion

[honest vortex]

Not my absolute favorite in all of gaming. Just one of them.

Like top 25-50 or something

[sonic turret]

It's interesting how the Slayer has black hair now. In classic Doom, it was brown and then ginger in the ending screen, and then it was brown again in Eternal. Must have something to do with the conditions on Argent Dnur, or he just decided to dye it.

[frail bloom]

Sure very fair

[silent surge]

didnt really talk dlc and stuff

[honest vortex]

Not crazy anymore?

[frail bloom]

No not dlc they said they had a doom 2 que track that they never released but made

And they said they couldn't reveal much so I assumed there were references we haven't heard

[sonic turret]

Who?

[astral ravine]

oh absolutely not.
I cannot not headbang during the guitar/drums section
I don't know how finishing move was able to do that but it just tingles me in all the right way

[frail bloom]

Yup

[frail bloom]

Alex Klingle, one of the composers

[honest vortex]

You were probably initially thinking I was saying #1-5 in all of gaming at first.

[frail bloom]

Ye I was like huh??

[astral ravine]

so, I don't think its recency bias at this point
but I gotta say the dark ages is my most favorite of the modern games trilogy

[sonic turret]

Ah I wouldn't have known who he was. I only really study the lore, but I'm useless with crew names.

[frail bloom]

They got rid of the grain so I'm happy

[honest vortex]

For me:

TDA> 2016 > Eternal

But all three have very solid aspects to each other

[astral ravine]

the shield is so good I'm just going "where have you been all my life?"

[glossy narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/ebob-elon-spacex-grain-silo-yo-where-my-grain-silo-going-gif-21542389

[frail bloom]

Imagine shield and meathook

Meathook into the air, than shieldbash causing a shockwave

Oh maaah god

[honest vortex]

Dark Ages your favorite OST/music of the new games as well?

[astral ravine]

still eternal

eternal has such a wide array of music variety

[honest vortex]

What if we had Titanfall 2 grappling hook, we could attach to walls/collision and demons?

[frail bloom]

Bro they can do so much we haven't seen nothing yet

[astral ravine]

its funny that when I see a green flash when playing eternal and a mancubus doing a ground shockwave move I subconsciously press right click in my mouse

[honest vortex]

For me 2016 is the king of OST, but Infernal Chasm is up there with the very best songs of 2016.

[honest vortex]

Lmao.

[real crater]

raitro is talking with kaiser about the dark ages development on stream rn

[honest vortex]

UndertheMayo was saying the same thing

[honest vortex]

IIRC Raitro really really really loves Dark Ages

[astral ravine]

who is kaiser again?

[real crater]

a eternal modder and former id software employee

[frail bloom]

AAUUUGHGHGH I MUST SEEEEEEE

Raitro muh boii

[astral ravine]

ah so he was a former id software employee

[honest vortex]

Is TDA, Raitro's favorite DOOM game of the trilogy atm?

[frail bloom]

He said it was the best casual experience, take that as you will

That was the day he played btw

Don't know beyond that

[astral ravine]

I think I've seen him say he likes TDA the most, although he thinks its just recency bias

[crude bridge]

The amount of times my Ultra Nightmare run was ended right after I perform a Glory Kill is unacceptable.

[real crater]

wonder when his video on doing the game with max sliders will come out unless its the video he already uploaded

[crude bridge]

I feel like I can't count on the game's healing mechanic to actually do its thing.

[silent surge]

hmm i’m not sure there

[astral ravine]

but yeah, I do think ID needs to make it so you heal during the invincibility duration of the glory kill/execution in the doom games

dying the split second the glory kill/execution animation ends without picking up the health feels like a cheap death

[frail bloom]

#music message

[honest vortex]

People keep saying "I like TDA the best due to recency bias" and then going "it's not recency bias anymore, TDA is still my favorite "

Lmao

[honest vortex]

It's DOOM 2016 UN all over again

[astral ravine]

Well I thought I'm the only one thinking like that now lmao

[frail bloom]

Where did Allstin go

[silent surge]

ahh yea we didn’t talk on that
watching some tv

[frail bloom]

Oh k

[silent surge]

popping in and out, feel free to ping

[honest vortex]

Allstin, what's your favorite levels in Dark Ages?

[silent surge]

reckoning is solid. resurrection too. and the cosmic realm levels for sure

[astral ravine]

Cosmic realm is something I appreciate the creativity of, but I don't want to go through again lmao

the hell section are definitely my most favorite

[frank turtle]

chapter 4 boss fight on un 😦

[tired rock]

It's the Vagary demon yeah? I just keep my distance away like it's Covid and spam Pulverizer lol

He's a big boy, and no big boy likes getting tickled by the enormous spread of Pulverizer

[frank turtle]

I just feel like ammo is hard to keep on that fight

[stoic sleet]

Usually I like to kill the demons, it works

[frank turtle]

I haven't tried the pulverizer on him, maybe that's my problem

[tired rock]

Oh yeah, it's hard. A lot of Mancubus too but that should be easy enough, shield stun lock and headshot em with the nail

Or if you're evil enough, decapitate them

[frank turtle]

I'll try that, thanks

[astral ravine]

I'm still standing by my opinion that his acid goo needs to be more visible on the ground

like, probably make the color more vibrant

[tired rock]

Oh yeah I got a strat, decapitate them and make em a punching bag for your punch to get some ammos

[silent surge]

what about just impaling their arms off

[tired rock]

That's what I meant by decapitating them

Prob not the right word

Should've say amputate them

Got it mixed up, sorry 💀

[kind lagoon]

I did that to a bunch of Hell Knights one time for shits and gigs, funniest thing I ever did in Doom

They just kinda followed me around mad

[tulip canyon]

Did Thira ever become queen?
DOOM: The Dark Ages

We know that Argent Dnur gets completely consumed by hell. Only King Noviks spirit remains in Eternal.

Does this mean Thira dies without becoming queen or leads the last army of Sentinels against Hell or dies in battle?

[real lynx]

Why does the triple shotgun not do triple damage

[fathom remnant]

I am still awaiting my copy of Dark Ages from game fly (long story short) I'm about to just buy it though bc the mail seems to be fucking with my copy.

I seen in this or another thread that the nightmare imps in dark ages make the sounds of the archviles from Doom II?

[real lynx]

Gamefly 💀 ain't no way

[sonic turret]

Which one's that?

[sonic turret]

Not sure, we only see Novik in Eternal, although I can see her being revered as a Mother Goddess type figure by future generations.

I don't have any preference between The Dark Ages and Eternal, however I'll say that for me personally, Eternal has greater replayability value.

[frank turtle]

the first vagary

[sonic turret]

Ah. I've only beaten them on Nightmare, but the real challenge is the size of the arena, typically you'd have four or five times that amount of space later on, plus you're having to fend off the Mancubuses too.

[honest vortex]

Damn I just replayed the final boss ... and I'm not exaggerating.

Ahzrak and the Witch might literally be one of the most badass final bosses in all of gaming

Also probably the best final boss in FPS history.

[honest vortex]

And that's saying something as I fucking loved Spider Mastermind a lot

[real lynx]

Enhanced asscrack is a better fight

[honest vortex]

Ahzrak and The Witch just get more and more fun the more I refight them

[honest vortex]

I'm talking about the whole final boss as a collective.

That part is still part of the final boss

[crude bridge]

I was just happy to finally cave that p*$$y faced f*ck's head in.

[hoary pivot]

nah, dont give em ideas 😭😭😭

[honest vortex]

Also I think Dark Ages has a much harder final boss fight than Icon of Sin and Spider Mastermind tbh

[crude bridge]

Mofo got what was coming for ||stabbing me and killing my dragon||.

[honest vortex]

Though not as hard as Samur

[crude bridge]

Agreed. Samur was the single best boss fight in DOOM.

[honest vortex]

I think it was a really cool and well designed and presented fight in general

[honest vortex]

I didn't think Samur was very good tbh lol

Not a big fan.

I also hate the story and ending behind him too

[crude bridge]

The Dark Lord was up there for me, controversial take, I know. But, IDC. The music went hard, the stakes were high at a narrative level, and the locations were epic. And that final cutscene? Absolute cinema.

[honest vortex]

Icon of Sin isn't that hard. Just tedious and lame

Spider Mastermind is really fun and can be decently hard at times if you don't use the BFG.

But Asscrack is better (and harder) than both.

Though I will say I do think Spider Mastermind has a cooler design aesthetically than Asscrack.

Asscrack has kinda a generic Saturday Morning cartoon cheesy devil look. But I fucking love him regardless.

[crude bridge]

The Samur boss fight was the first time I actually felt afraid to even begin the fight. My nerves were completely fried with anxiety and I will never forget how it felt finally beating him...even though I know that's also Samuel Hayden and I still haven't forgiven the writers for doing this to my favorite morally grey scientist.

[crude bridge]

He's literally a devil, from Hell. If he looked any different, I'd be disappointed.

[honest vortex]

Also his voice and energy and fighting are really cool.

[honest vortex]

No I mean. It's a generic cheesy Saturday Morning cartoon version lmao.

But tbf that's kinda what the Icon of Sin was

Icon of Sin and Barons look like more intimidating stylized demons.

The 2016 Baron of Hell looks like Satan himself but isn't Saturday Morning cartoon-ified

Not saying it's a bad thing though. Asscrack has his charm for that style. 😂

[crude bridge]

I guess.

But, personally, the Saturday morning cartoon villain look is always going to be the classic devil look in my eyes.

[honest vortex]

Though his weird dragon alt form boss fight was pretty unique and not very cartoony

Where he grew the wings

[crude bridge]

Oh, I hated that.

Motherf*cker! You're not allowed to interrupt my glory kill animations!

DOOM The Dark Ages does a great job of motivating you kill everything by slapping you across the face with pure, unadulterated ||BULLSHIT||!

You ||fucking die||?! Well, now you get to ||wake up in Hell|| and rip demons apart!

[hasty stone]

Dark ages mods when

[real crater]

im in sentinel command station and i saw the 3rd secret and decided not to go for it because it was a life sigil but then after i found out there was a secret trigger there i had passed a point of no return so now i have to redo the whole level again

[silent surge]

i know that level you loop back around at parts

[merry sapphire]

this game is game of the year for every year except 2020 Maybe

overall think eternal is the better game but this might change 500 hours later. definitely the 2nd best game of all time right after eternal

eternal really clicked for me and became the best game for me after tag1 so we'll see how post content is gonna affect the game

9.9/10

[cinder estuary]

Tda at 150 feel atrocious. Its not even hard or fun, my first pand and un runs were on 150 and after that i went back to 120 and realized how shit and goofy 150 feels

You barely need to time parries as shit like cosmic baron and cyberdemon just perma attack with no delay

[shrewd mountain]

What's good fuckers im back

Oh wait hold on

I need my markiplier pfp

Haha!

Its been so long since I've been in the dark ages discord

[thorny yarrow]

Okay so after playing through this game again with the new music balancing and everything, it's much easier to appreciate what it does for this game. Yeah sure not mick gordon, whatever.

The symphonic elements in these tracks make this shit not only metal and pumping, but also sweeping and epic. Now that the music is so bold, as it really should have been from the outset, this shit rocks, and it totally works with the fantasy oriented tone of this game. I'm loving it far more now than I did initially.

Really goes to show how important music is to these new dooms as well. I feel even more motivated and pumped playing this now with the music this way.

[shrewd mountain]

Yea the music change is the best update ever

It feels so much more impactful now

[thorny yarrow]

Absolutely. I've got melodies fro it stuck in my head.

Especially the theme from Holy City and Blood Red.

[willow beacon]

I think it’s fun 🤷

[pseudo grove]

when is new doom cominh

if any devs r listen call doom slayers revenge

[willow beacon]

We just got one 😭

[pseudo grove]

i want a knew one now

[willow beacon]

Not happening bucko

[pseudo grove]

shut up ur not a dev

[honest vortex]

After replaying the game....I am starting to realize that it's mostly just Infernal Chasm and Into the Void that I think are on par with Mick Gordon

The Cosmic Realm music in general I think is Mick Gordon tier

Wait no.... Ancestral Beast is on par with Mick Gordon as well

Idk....I think there's like 2 or 3 I more songs that I didn't mention that are probably on par with Mick Gordon. What am I talking about lol

[jolly geyser]

lmaoo bro this game on console is hiLAROUS. this RT is just... wow. the sharpening filter works now & all I see is that sharp grain of low settings everywhere.

id is actually a bunch of maniacs trying to get this game to work on console.

[twilit pumice]

Mick's music doesn't grip me like seemingly everyone else.
Way more in favor of TDA's Gothic Thrash metal

[twilit pumice]

More in favor of Mick's Wolfenstein ost work. Even his music was incredible in TNC, despite TNC being a terrible game to play cuz design flaws.

Atomic heart's industrial metal I find even better than Mick's Doom osts. And cool tid bit Mick made a few songs on that game alongside Geoffrey Day

[frank turtle]

oh I didn't know he did wolfenstein, that's awesome

[honest vortex]

I don't understand. Why does the Ricochet from the Shedder NEVER WORK

It's literally the only mastery I need

Yes I have Ricochet equiped.

It never worked for the 50 hours I've played

[hoary pivot]

why do i keep seeing the slayer get shipped with Thira LOL

[honest vortex]

I watch videos and all people do is shoot a big demon until they glow and then they throw the shield and it ricochets... But that doesn't work for me

They NEVER glow no matter how much ammunition I unload

[willow beacon]

What guns are you mainly using?

[honest vortex]

You're supposed to use the Shredder.

It's the Burster mastery challenge

You're supposed to use one of the Shredder weapon mods to ricochet to other enemies

https://youtu.be/Vay10DM9hBo?si=7zuiswFwlNX3Fnhp

It doesn't FUCKING work and I follow EXACTLY what is shown in the videos

The enemies never glow no matter what

[wintry nexus]

Yea it’s weird asf

I hate it lowkey

[honest vortex]

Alright I'm getting pissed off. Fuck this game.

[molten spear]

I used this video and it worked for me, they glow after many shots, also make sure you have the right thing equipped ig

[honest vortex]

I tried both Shredder mods many times.

They never glow . Ever.

[wintry nexus]

No I guess

I see thira and doom slayer as allies

And I see Isabelle and doom slayer as best friends

[half plaza]

using the pincushion mod, you have tried unloading into a demon and then throwing the shield at them?

[wintry nexus]

Of course not, the reason why people liked Isabelle and doom slayer was because their games were released in the same day

It was cool actually

I’m not sure about thira and doom slayer, like I said, I see them as ALLIES

It’s Twitter.

I’m not surprised

[frank turtle]

I thought slayer and hayden were canonically together

[wintry nexus]

mf WHAT

No they’re not?

[honest vortex]

Mmm hmmm.. countless times.

I tried both Pincushion and Ricochet countless times.

They never glow.

EVER

It's a horribly programmed game

Now I'm back to hating this game because this one fucking challenge is literally bugged to hell

[half plaza]

i have literally never heard of this bug before

[half plaza]

have you tried restarting the game?

[wintry nexus]

Neither did I

[half plaza]

if you play on pc, did you try verifying the game files?

[half plaza]

also, richochet isn't supposed to glow...you just throw the shield into them and the nails go into other enemies.

[honest vortex]

There's quite a bit of people I saw having this issue

[half plaza]

where

[honest vortex]

The enemies are supposed to glow.

[half plaza]

no, not with ricochet

they're supposed to glow with pincushion

[honest vortex]

https://youtu.be/Vay10DM9hBo?si=i3_JK-4NAhtZjlsh

[honest vortex]

They do it with both....

[half plaza]

with ricochet you throw a shield into a big demon and then shoot the shield and the nails ricochet

[half plaza]

noo they do not

[twilit pumice]

Always worked for me. You're on xbox, right Lock?

[honest vortex]

Doesn't work.

[honest vortex]

Ye

[half plaza]

.

[honest vortex]

Many of the comments to the video I linked. Some threads on Reddit as well as Steam

[honest vortex]

Yes.

I was never able to have it happen in the 50 hours I've played. So that's irrelevant anyway

[twilit pumice]

Fucking weird. It's pretty nice when it actually works. I'm always using it over the explosive AoE pincushion

[half plaza]

have you tried reinstalling the game

[honest vortex]

Actually, I have 2/500 damage out of all the 50 hours I've played.

Idk when or how I got 2 damage lol

[half plaza]

i reiterate

[dark thunder]

I LOVE THE COSMIC REALM

[silent surge]

awhile back there was an issue of shredder mods not working on a new playthrough

[dark thunder]

What do the denizens of the cosmic realm do all day though they just float around n shit with tentacles being creepy

[silent surge]

i’m sure Eric and Steve just pass by each other everyday “sup? nothing new. you? nah.”

[dark thunder]

"Drive anyone insane lately?"

[half plaza]

what does a deer do in the forest all day