the-dark-ages

[molten island]

Then retry to find the hidden places I forgot

[frail bloom]

We will have that super hard parry mode they talked abt too

One mistake and your done

[molten island]

@frail bloom you want harder lol I haven't got past the 5th level yet lol

[frail bloom]

It would be a nice option for those who want a new experience that is also hard at the same time

[molten island]

Today is the first day I got to play for 2 hours straight

I got ya man I'm too busy but I love he game so I put the time in lol

[frail bloom]

It would take a couple years but we can wait

Till all the stuff I mentioned is added

[molten island]

Lol I love doom. , I just started playing doom 3 in VR

With ultra settings on a 4080 laptop so it is possible

At 72 refresh rate

[vapid lodge]

thats the point, havent done that yet

[pulsar granite]

I wouldn't complain if I were you. Free achievement

[honest vortex]

Crazy how unbelievable VEGA Central Processing is.

Replayed it just now and it's still super phenomenal (and the VEGA train battle is one of the hardest fights in DOOM history)and I thought it was the best level in all of DOOM, until the Cosmic Realm topped it

[uneven basin]

so i read somewhere they can push out balance updates without actually patching the game? Found it: https://x.com/DOOM/status/1925721303987757124 https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/en-US/article/active-tunables

[honest vortex]

Titan's Realm is also unbelievably incredible and will NEVER get old

[frail bloom]

Where hato

[real crater]

i dont think any specific level was good for me it was more so the whole game being amazing to play

[tired rock]

King of fight optimization is Super Gore Nest tho

[real crater]

maybe i just need more time with each level but there's no specific one that is above the rest

its interesting because in the other games its very clear to me which levels is above the rest but in this game i just dont know

[split inlet]

Is there any way to get rid of the info boxes that pop up when you pick up a new weapon? I've played the campaign already so I don't need them anymore and they slow the pace down

[harsh egret]

i get that vibe about everything almost in this game lol, theres not smth specific i can point out that is just like great compared to everything else, but its all overall really cool and enjoyable, whether it be weapons, levels, enemies, idk

[mental grotto]

Turn off tutorials probably

[honest vortex]

There's fair

[noble relic]

update: for his first time playing a videogame like this he did the entire chapter first try no deaths lmao

[split inlet]

Doesn't seem to be a way to do that in settings and the tutorials menu just brings up the past ones.

[noble relic]

siege part 1 and 2 were EASILY my favourite

by miles

[real crater]

im inclined to say the last level because i like combat gauntlets but thats not really concrete

[noble relic]

you can only do it when u first make the save

yk the difficulty modifier screen?

[split inlet]

THANK YOU

[noble relic]

of course

[split inlet]

Idk why that wouldn't be an option during a playthrough

[noble relic]

neither do i but hey ho

the difficulty modifiers should be options during a playthrough as a whole

[delicate grotto]

Slower pacing to compensate for a longer campaign. Personally I think the developers could’ve pushed their players with greater combat intensity, especially since the inclusion of the sliders gave them the freedom to do so. In an attempt to avoid exhaustion and fatigue, Doom: The Dark Ages takes a much slower and approach in ramping up its difficulty- although I find this as a detriment to the game’s replayability. As much as I love it. The campaign could’ve easily been shaved down to 15-18 levels, with the rest of those resources being used to create additional content. This way the levels could have more distinctness to their difficulty as well.

[broken berry]

Fun fact, setting the Master Volume to 19% makes it so the pause menu is muted while the gameplay is not. It's pretty useful if you don't want to hear the game music while switching to another tab.

[noble relic]

why 19% specifically lmao

[broken berry]

Dunno. 18% mutes the music in the gameplay iIrc, and 20% has it audible in the menus.

[noble relic]

also btw

[hard thistle]

daaamn that's crazy, anyway

[delicate grotto]

Look at the Foundry in 2016, or Exultia in Doom Eternal. Shorter campaigns, and yet both early game levels stick out for their respective encounters.
I can’t really recall many encounters in the first 4 levels of Doom: The Dark Ages.

[noble relic]

turning off tutorials also turns off those missions at the start where its like "shield charge 15 enemies"

[broken berry]

Nvm, below 15% mutes the music in the gameplay.

18% is the max if you don't want to hear the music in the menus.

[delicate grotto]

And the game can handle more enemies at once, yet it uses this capability for fodder more often than not. I rarely see more than 3-4 heavies on screen at once, with the occasional super heavy.

Perhaps the way the AI and the parry system works in this game, makes it too chaotic to have more than that amount present at once, but I doubt it.

[noble relic]

also i highly recommend turning off the slayer pain grunts in audio settings

[hard thistle]

tda is more casual I guess

[broken berry]

Though, you could just mute the music slider itself if you really wanted to have no music.

[hard thistle]

nah don't ever turn that off

[broken berry]

Well, at least it means it could be possible for master levels. 👀

[noble relic]

him going UGHHGH whenever i face tank a hell knight pisses me off

[broken berry]

Time to fight 40 Cyber Demons.

[broken berry]

I'm used to hearing it when you jump in Eternal, lol.

[delicate grotto]

I’m hoping the DLC takes advantage of this games unique systems and AI. The main campaign didn’t explore it as much as I would’ve liked it to.

[hard thistle]

good, ur suppose to be pissed off while playing doom, more immersive

[broken berry]

Also, it would be cool if one of Hell's Royalty or High Council we fight in TDA's DLC is a demon rabbit of some sort. It'd be the ultimate counter to the Slayer.

[hard thistle]

why would that be the ultimate counter

[broken berry]

Giving him Daisy PTSD and not wanting to kill something that resembles a rabbit.

[noble relic]

also turning up the game speed was such a good decision to have

[broken berry]

True.

And turning it down is nice for screenshots.

[noble relic]

i play on 130% and god it feels so good

[broken berry]

Since we don't really have a photo mode.

[noble relic]

wish the slayer picked up weapons faster though

[hard thistle]

the demons kille daisy, she's gone. A demon mocking him by looking like her would piss off doomguy so much, they'd die before they even realize they fucked up

[hard thistle]

that's odd ngl

[broken berry]

Wait, the demon could be the reason the Slayer can see illusions of Daisy in Eternal... even if the Slayer won against the demon, they still affected him in some capacity.

[hard thistle]

nah those are just easter eggs

[brazen cove]

Maybe they could make it harder with more difficult projectile patterns and adding unblockables

[broken berry]

Yeah, just thought it would be a funny way to connect them to the later games chronologically wise. Retroactive storytelling.

[brazen cove]

But yea I agree that the game feels a lot easier

[hard thistle]

sure it can be ur own headcannon if it helps u enjoy the story more

[broken berry]

What if they added a mode that removed projectiles entirely, but also the shield.

[brazen cove]

I think it would be so lame

Pure gunplay in tda would be boring imo

[broken berry]

Wasn't Eternal like that though?

[brazen cove]

It had a ton of other mechanics it wasn’t based entirely on parry

[hard thistle]

what if they added double jump and dash and meathook

[broken berry]

The melee options are still there.

[hard thistle]

nah jk jk

[brazen cove]

I mean it would just be a budget eternal at that point

[noble relic]

thats how i fight cyberdemons

parry melee parry melee repeat

[hard thistle]

the cyberdemon is a joke in close range

[brazen cove]

Yea but you still parry. If you remove shield the game would be so boring imo

[broken berry]

Don't we already have the high jump that does the same thing? And the infinite sprint > dash?

The only change I'd want there is for the option to run backwards like in the classic games, plus, you could dash backwards in Eternal. I get that they want you to stand and fight, but, it'd be neat.

Also, the shield bash is basically the meathook.

[honest vortex]

Wait I was talking about 2016 when I mentioned VEGA Central Processing and Titan's Realm

[broken berry]

The peak way. Though, the fact that we can fight them like in classic DOOM is also nice.

[brazen cove]

Infinite sprint is not the same as dash. We also don’t have grenades and quickswap

And meat hook

[delicate grotto]

The music for the last Atlan section fucking slaps. No clue it went this hard until the music got remixed. Beautiful.

[hard thistle]

we have a normal jump, and sprit is not dash. but yeah like I said a it's a joke cuz at that point u might as well play eternal

[brazen cove]

Exactly yea

[hard thistle]

only thing I wish we got is the ability to sprint sideways and backwards, basically infinity sprint. Not just forward

[broken berry]

The grenades were replaced by the Grenade Launcher. It even has the cluster bomb thingy. Plus, the auto turret as well.

And, I heard they're going to make it so TDA has a faster swap speed in a future update.

[wheat sigil]

infinite sprint is far from the dashing system, same for shield bashing and meathooking

[honest vortex]

120 for me

[brazen cove]

Those are two very different thing. Grenade launcher is a weapon, grenade is a tool you can use at the same time as weapon

[broken berry]

Oh, lol.

But, besides, we had none of those in 2016, and that was still fun, so I don't really get the complaints.

[brazen cove]

And grenade was mostly used for utility

[broken berry]

How so?

[brazen cove]

The point isn’t what’s fun and not fun. The point is if you remove tda main system (shield and projectiles) then it’s just eternal but way worse

Also auto turret is tied to parry, so in your exemple it wouldn’t even exist lol

[hard thistle]

cuz dash is like a dodge roll, and sprint is just running forward

[noble relic]

chainshot with the auto charged shot on parry is also quite nice

[wheat sigil]

meathooking is very rarely used to get to enemies, it's almost always used to get momentum or into the air, if you know how to use it well

dashing is just fundamentally different from sprinting, only similarity is that they increase the speed at which you move compared to normal walking

[frail bloom]

Why would yu need dash u have a shield

[vital rapids]

lol it's not Eternal but even worse, it doesn't have double-jump, constant GK, all the platforming, cartoon graphics, constant handholding and so on
I'd say it's not even as bad

[broken berry]

True, but, we get more shots than two, which is nice I guess. Though, if switching to that weapon and away was faster than the other weapons, like, 2016 maxed quick swap fast... I feel like it'd be more appreciated, Idk.

[honest vortex]

Tbh I hate Exultia lmao.

But I really liked Siege Part 1 and 2. They stood out to me for early levels

[wheat sigil]

dang i didn't notice the constant gks in eternal ngl

[brazen cove]

That’s my point. If you remove the shield/projectile it’s eternal without all that makes eternal good

[broken berry]

Don't you move faster with the sprint? Plus with the Pulverizer upgrade.

[vital rapids]

I don't mind the extra mechanics. I've been playing FPS for 30 years. At this point a straight FPS can be a bit like that slow mo neo thing from the matrix

[broken berry]

Indeed. Indeed it is.

[vital rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-keanu-reeves-slow-motion-bullet-freeze-gif-3538736

[tall nymph]

anyone having increased crash issues with hdr enabled?

[brazen cove]

The speed isn’t the only point

Dash you can move in any direction not just forward + you can do it in the air

[vital rapids]

holy fucking shit did you miss the chainsaw etc the whole game?

[hard thistle]

yeah... moving faster is called running

[wheat sigil]

dashing is often used to redirect momentum, reset momentum, single dashing, and you can do it in all directions
very different from the sprint

[hard thistle]

and dodging projectiles/attacks

[vital rapids]

Well Eternal still exists for people who like Eternal stuff
I'm just glad they were prepared to take a new direction. I honestly thought Doom was murdered tbh, taken away forever. so I'm super happy at a change up

[brazen cove]

Again we’re talking about an hypothetical game mode in tda where you remove shield and projectiles

[wheat sigil]

chainsawing isn't really glory killing though

[brazen cove]

That’s where this discussion started

[broken berry]

meathooking is very rarely used to get to enemies, it's almost always used to get momentum or into the air, if you know how to use it well

I've seen people doing the same with the shield, by locking onto an enemy and off them mid bash, which sends you flying.

dashing is just fundamentally different from sprinting, only similarity is that they increase the speed at which you move compared to normal walking

I don't really see the complaint, one is more jarring than the other for movement. As for an enemy coming at you, you can dash away from them, and in TDA, you can do the same with a sprint jump, a shield bash towards a different enemy, or just... using the shield to block the attack- I don't really see the problem. Plus, it being the same as Eternal would just be boring. It'd also make no sense chronologically, as the Slayer only got the double jump during 2016, and the dash during Eternal. He had neither during 64. However, what we have is satisfactory enough, so, I don't see the big issue.

[vital rapids]

Then it's just Doom, isn't it.
Without any of the stuff that made Eternal different

[brazen cove]

You think if you remove shield and projectiles and leave the game as is, it would be fun?

[broken berry]

Exactly.

[vital rapids]

You say "made eternal good", I say "made eternal different", but tomato tomato

[vital rapids]

💯

But what the shield and projectiles add, is to separate it from being just the same as other Doom games

[brazen cove]

Ok then I guess we disagree. I like both games, even if I prefer eternal admittedly. But if you remove shield/projectile in tda I think it would be boring as sin

[frail bloom]

It would be 2016

[brazen cove]

Not really no

[frail bloom]

Ye but without the quickswap

[broken berry]

Yeah, you'd have to be more weary of melee attacks, plus, projectiles that don't have a parryable version would still be present. Such as fodder ranged attacks, as well as the Chaingunner and Arachnotron.

[frail bloom]

Yu would still have faster sprint speed

[vital rapids]

Do you consider doom classic boring as sin, I guess is an interesting question

[frail bloom]

It would be classic doom honestly

(But with a jump)

[brazen cove]

I played doom 3 and onward

[vital rapids]

Projectiles would stay if you didn't parry them. You'd just circle strafe and use cover

[frail bloom]

So it would be gzdoom lol

[broken berry]

Would be cool if whatever weapons introduced in the DLC can then be brought over to the base game, unlike Eternal.

[frail bloom]

Brutal doom lol

[slender night]

If it was Brutal it'd be mid

[frail bloom]

All I know, is that some doom game along the line will bring back the meathook, bc he had to be using it somehow

[vital rapids]

So this is an important difference. If you would love doom to be like classic doom that proposal looks quite different, that's all it is i think

[wheat sigil]

to do so with the shielf requires very specific circumstances, and you can't control the direction you go in, it's overall very niche. the meathook allows you to control the amount of momentum, and in which direction. the shield doesn't allow you to stay in the air for eternity either, nor is it a restacking tool.

and here i feel like you're completely missing the point, i'm not complaining about anything, you made that up. and the sprint is fundamentally different from the dash due to it being used to reset momentum, redirect momentum, single dashing, and you can use it in all directions. it also creates a much more distinct effect which is important when avoiding enemy attacks.

[brazen cove]

Yea it’s just different taste and expectations, I think I made it clear that it’s just my opinion

If you prefer it another way that’s completely fine

[vital rapids]

I think it's perfectly valid to look at it with Eternal as context. I look at it with the whole series as context

[brazen cove]

Fair enough

I want to play d1-2 at some point just to see what it’s about. But when doom 3 came out I was like 11 lol

[vital rapids]

This actually isn't the whole truth - Eternal wasn't for me, so I tend to discount it, perhaps unfairly since it is part of the Doom heritage now

[brazen cove]

I mean I get why eternal is divisive, to me personally the gameplay really clicked with me

[vital rapids]

It's well worth taking a look to see the roots, the source material. Don't let grumpy old doom boomers like me spoil it for you, sorry 😂

[brazen cove]

lol no worries, i will eventually

[vital rapids]

Eternal's plainly a very good game.
If you play classic you might understand why eternal was a big curve ball for some

But also, the classic doom games are just simple fun

[brazen cove]

I mean without playing it I can understand why you’d feel that way

[real crater]

i tried to play it after nearly a month of only the dark ages and all my skill went out the window

[brazen cove]

Im curious what do you think of doom 3 then

[delicate grotto]

Enhanced Azhrak’s boss fight is so fun. Easily best Doom boss.

[brazen cove]

I went back as well and it took me a bit to re adjust lol

[real crater]

its gonna take me a while

[vital rapids]

Fun. Was also a departure from the franchise at the time, but like Eternal very good at what it set out to achieve

[real crater]

the main thing is walking so slow in eternal in tda you can sprint and on 150% speed you're practically on the dragon when sprinting but in eternal you're slow af

[vital rapids]

Doom 3 with the lights out at night and headphones on was super intense

[brazen cove]

Especially at the time

[wheat sigil]

saying walking speed in eternal is slow is wild

[real crater]

can you blame me after having played tda on 150% speed with auto sprint

[vital rapids]

Truthfully you can only jump scare someone so many times with scripted spawns, but for its time Doom 3 did a great job

[frail plaza]

it honestly is after being so used to sprinting in TDA, speeds up a bit with the dashes but it still just has that slow feeling

[real crater]

im just used to moving faster now

[wheat sigil]

yeah it's comparatively slow, but far from slow lol

but walking in eternal is like something you do 1/3 of the time if you play grounded and almost nothing if you aircamp

[placid rock]

uuuuuuugh because apple is such a greatdesigner my apple pen is now not able to connect to my ipad making it much harder to use any art apps for the custom demon, gonna have to use a vector shape app instead

[frail bloom]

What do yu think of this
#artwork message

[placid rock]

looks pretty unique for a demon

[frail bloom]

That was my intention

[placid rock]

also ever since tda i now see all pinkies as chicken pinkies in other games lol

[noble relic]

i do like tda pinkies more

[wild rose]

It's crazy how much the fanbase still sucks on Eternal

People on Reddit will tell you that game is flawless

[zinc owl]

😭real

all of them have bugs that are just borderline nightmarish to patch

[wild rose]

"that game has depth" no it doesn't lmao the depth is just dashing all the time while shooting and spamming quick swap

[zinc owl]

at same time ppl don't report too many bugs lol they js complain ab them

[zinc owl]

it has some lore but not as much as I'd think anyone would like

emphasis on the some part

[wheat sigil]

is this bait

[brazen cove]

feels like it lol

[wheat sigil]

both of the games have depth🤯
wild take

[vital rapids]

I think FPS gameplay can have depth, relatively speaking, even if at the core FPS is simple

[wheat sigil]

i'm very familiar with eternal, so i can conclusively say it has a lot of depth, but since i'm not very experienced with tda, i can't say how much depth it has

[zinc owl]

tda did not turn out with too much depth tbh

mechanics wise amazing but story is a bit repetitive

did enjoy dying though that part ws fun

[wild rose]

The story is so much better than Eternal's it's not close

[vital rapids]

TDA's depth seems to emerge from player expression for me.
You can find all sorts of different play styles depending on what weapons and melee actions you combine. How you form your "combat sentences" can vary wildly

Eternal wasn't my game at all so I have to take people's word that it has depth

[placid rock]

this

[brazen cove]

i mean i persoanlly don't care as much for story

[wild rose]

This

If people want to only play it with SSG because they don't want fun they can, and later on they'll say it has no depth because the game doesn't force you to take one specific approach

[wild rose]

It sucks ass playing the game and having absolutely no clue what the hell is going on

[vivid umbra]

Which game?

[wild rose]

TDA

I also don't like Eternal's pacing

[zinc owl]

for me it ws just killing another demon leader, like we already killed ourself (the creator) so I'm not entirely sure why ahzarak even stood a chance 😭

[wheat sigil]

eternal doesn't force you to play any one way🙄

[wild rose]

Supposedly Wraith > Slayer's power

[zinc owl]

😭🙏fr like how did that story make sense compared to eternal

[pulsar granite]

Torrent too slow

[wild rose]

We don't know the Wraiths limits. It's not absurd

[zinc owl]

true but wouldn't the creator be more powerful? seeing that he created everything and we kinda jabbed a forearm blade into him?

[wild rose]

He didn't create them nor the cosmic realm

He was just the most powerful guy on hell. And he was stripped from his powers

[zinc owl]

😭I needa learn more ab lore then

[wheat sigil]

to all the people who crossed me, can you give an example? lol

[placid rock]

i would say because it actually made story points where eternal just rushed everything boss battle after boss battle, to me it just felt like a arcade game

[placid rock]

every battle requires you to stay moving at all times

[brazen cove]

yea it's baffling to me to see all the hate towards eternal lol

[zinc owl]

that I'll agree with tbh, we actually had cutscenes in missions 😭

[wheat sigil]

that isn't forcing the player to play any one way
is it also restrictive because you gotta shoot?

[vital rapids]

I feel like TDA does too, mostly, and all movement shooters to an extent (if not always "all the time"). Although truth be told I never stopped moving all the time to find out

[wild rose]

You need to keep airbone and moving and quick switching all times while using grenades and blood punch for specific enemies

[placid rock]

its more about how much stuff they put in to match the slayer which just turns it to a chaotic battle each time trying to remember all combos and weapons to use for specific enemies

[wild rose]

I still don't know what Eternal's story is about 😭

[brazen cove]

sayign it's chaotic makes more sense than saying it has no depth imo

at least i can understand that

[vital rapids]

Don't some of the enemies channel you down one way to play? I swear I remember people moaning about this, especially DLC enemies

[placid rock]

i was able to do a run and never run, it actually lets you be calmer and more strategic than relying on impulses to shoot the trigger

[brazen cove]

probably weakpoint system, but you can completely ignore it and be fine

[wild rose]

DLC did this a lot, which also means horde mode

[brazen cove]

yea some ennemies do suck

[vital rapids]

Oh that sounds interesting. Although I'm not sure I could have the iron self control to not run

[placid rock]

its the same for most people lol

[placid rock]

oh yeah there was moments where i just wanted to sprint but i realized that the more i sprinted the less i looked at the enviroment and enjoyed it

[wild rose]

It's crazy how they simply slap Argent D'Nur and all its lore in your face and we basically need to read a book mid game to understand it

[wheat sigil]

1. you don't need to keep airborne, many want to play grounded and do so
2. most don't quick swap
3. you often don't use the blood punch on specific enemies

[pulsar granite]

Choo Choo choo ha ha ha

[wheat sigil]

you don't need to use specific combos or weapons for demons lol

[wild rose]

Most don't quick swap? Now it's contradictory

[placid rock]

i like the long lore reads i just think they shouldnt cram the story into just lore pages like i feel like its super lazy

[wheat sigil]

yeah, if you look at the "average" player they don't

[placid rock]

you do if you want to kill the enemies faster

[zinc owl]

LOL yall don't fall for they ragebait they js dunno how to look at games with actual perspective

[wheat sigil]

i've interacted and coached quite a lot of players, and a majority of them don't

[wild rose]

In DLC there are 3 specific demons at least which only can be killed by a specific mod

[brazen cove]

yes you should but most people don't lol. Thats why they had to add a tool tips for it

[wild rose]

The average player plays on too young to die

[zinc owl]

real

[pulsar granite]

Real

[zinc owl]

I got my all gold slayer 😌

[zinc owl]

AY I DID LASOS ON HALO LET ME HUMBLE MYSELF

[pulsar granite]

Don't fall for the clear ragebait

[placid rock]

yeah even tho i didnt like eternal i still beat it on all difficulties... just to get that skullface

[zinc owl]

LOL real

[wild rose]

Every YT video has people doing it, and everyone is complaining about TDA not having quick swap so there are enough people who do it

[pulsar granite]

I swear they're saying the complete opposite of eternal 😭

[zinc owl]

😭🙏FR

like how we both put msgs like "don't fall for it, it's literally just dumbshit" lmaoo

[brazen cove]

Quickswap is an integral part of eternal, its literally in the game tutorial. People who don't do it either don't know about it, aren't able to, or delibverately choose not to

[wild rose]

Exactly

[placid rock]

the only thing i would say i "loved" about eternal was the artsyle alone cause i actually was into the immora stuff

[zinc owl]

yesss the art style was good, I liked the tech integrations with icon of sin it looked rlly good

would've hated to see them make it a regular ass demon just shaped like that lol but they did good with it's fx

[pulsar granite]

I can tell there is a long ass message incoming ❗

[wheat sigil]

yes, there is a decent amount of players doing it, but that perspective is often scewed as youtube videos often feature better players, and you will only hear people complain that quick swapping in tda is too slow, not that it's too fast or the right speed... because that just doesn't happen

quick swapping is great, but i can objectively say it is not forced at all

[zinc owl]

absolutely right sir!

[wheat sigil]

my proof for that is that i've done some of the hardest modded arenas without quick swapping+restrictions

[pulsar granite]

Another right up

[brazen cove]

why are we crossing M1 lol

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/fr-lie-gif-9063740662564569899

[wild rose]

Yeah no it is. Even HMP is hard enough with quick swapping, people aren't doing it without

[zinc owl]

LOL bc it's funny to see them try to make a point but wallow in their own failure to do so

[brazen cove]

I agree with most of what they say so idk

[wheat sigil]

i can record something and send you later if you wanna🙂
and this is my normal gameplay for reference
https://youtu.be/2s0wrnzHq1M?si=IDJ82gdbV1WcK0ed

[zinc owl]

I agree with some and disagree with other bits

[placid rock]

such a underwelming scene for the demons on the immora intro cause there was way less demons compared to how many sentinels shows up which makes no sense for the lore about the horde like there was only 1 titan in that intro sequence and it wasnt even armored!

i wish i could edit the cutscene to add more demons to it

it would look so much better with a swarm of demons

[wheat sigil]

overall, eternal is very free and creative allowing for a multitude of playstyles

[zinc owl]

😭real we got to fight more titans in tda than we ever saw in eternal

[limber basin]

I’m ngl I’d let the slayer groom me

[pulsar granite]

I have completely lost all memory of eternal

[wheat sigil]

then why are you cross reactint me? i've had this convo like 100 times

[pulsar granite]

Bro has onlyfans in bio 💀 💀 💀

[long sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-man-doom-doom-eternal-doom-slayer-gif-26144016

[zinc owl]

WHERE I NEED THEM SLAYER FEET PICS THEY MUST BE STRONGGG AFTER CRUSHING 30 DEMONS TO DEATH AT ONCE

[zinc owl]

judging in 2025 wild

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-mewing-mewing-meme-think-thinking-gif-8986451654826218658

We are literally judging m1

[zinc owl]

https://tenor.com/view/drunk-grandma-gif-18360479

[placid rock]

how is not agreeing judging?

[zinc owl]

true

[delicate grotto]

Just finished my second playthrough. Loved it even more this time.

[pulsar granite]

Into Sandy's city

Dun dun dun dun dumdudmd dun dun dun

[zinc owl]

I did my first one on ultra cheese mode making it as easy as possible js so I could get completion then I set it to as hard as it got for my second one

[vital rapids]

you have a beautiful voice

[zinc owl]

LOL DISCORD DELETED MANS MSG

[pulsar granite]

I did

💀 0 seeds

[placid rock]

[pulsar granite]

[zinc owl]

oh I ws like damn filtering got u fucked up 😭🙏

[pulsar granite]

Chat 0b/s

[zinc owl]

https://tenor.com/view/revenant-doom-doom2-jumpscare-gif-22108444

[placid rock]

pov your in ultra nightmare

[pulsar granite]

Ahhhh shit

[zinc owl]

😳😳😳

[noble relic]

has the mancubus in the vagary champion fight always been there?

[placid rock]

update

[vital rapids]

wtf I can't believe they added neon green attacks in doom, where did this come from

[noble relic]

or was that added with the most recent update where they added more enemies to some levels?

[zinc owl]

is it bad I actually got spooked by that years ago

[pulsar granite]

Worst nightmare in sunlust

[noble relic]

i didnt evenk ill it lol

[delicate grotto]

Wait fr? Which level?

[noble relic]

i just threw my shield in it and unloaded on the stunned vagary lmao

[delicate grotto]

I didn’t think they updated any encounters

[sudden stump]

a bunch of fights got extra demons added, some respawn constantly

[placid rock]

lots of magic and demonic stuff back then used green fire

[zinc owl]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-revenant-sekeleton-dancing-gif-15451777

[placid rock]

first boss fight with a vagary

[zinc owl]

WTF DID I JUST FIND

[delicate grotto]

Sickkk

[delicate grotto]

Makes me happy they’re updating some earlier parts of the campaign. That’s sweet.

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-revenant-sekeleton-dancing-gif-15451777

[pulsar granite]

Chat am I tripping or was it not that fast

[placid rock]

https://tenor.com/view/archvile-doom-at-everyone-everyone-arch-vile-gif-6653218301493400339

[wheat sigil]

oh yeaa dope

[placid rock]

you are trippin

[pulsar granite]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT THE SUNLUST PTSD

[sudden stump]

https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/en-US/article/doom-the-dark-ages-update-1

all encounter changes listed here

[sonic turret]

Whenever answering a question on Doom gameplay or lore, I and up writing an entire essay. 😅

[zinc owl]

LMAOOOOO

[noble relic]

village of khalim, hebeth, sentinel barracks, holy city of aratum, siege part 1 and 2 all have had more enemies added to them

[pulsar granite]

I dare all of you to play sunlust

[placid rock]

sunlust?

[sonic turret]

I'd be careful posting animated gifs, I'm on my final warning.

[zinc owl]

NONONO NOT THEM IM BURNING AN ORPHANAGE BEFORE FACING ONE OF THEM AGAIN

[pulsar granite]

I swear there's at least one archvile in every level

[delicate grotto]

Somehow I glossed over the encounter updates when reading this article earlier…

[pulsar granite]

A wad for doom 2

[zinc owl]

did once and never again

[placid rock]

it was doom related tho? im confused

[sudden stump]

they weren't there originally it think, they were edited in after

[wheat sigil]

animated gifs are fine afaik, but not memes

[placid rock]

and im using tenor from discord to put the gifs

oh didnt know that was a meme

[sonic turret]

Yeah, no the Admins don't like them. They could probably disable them, but they don't.

[delicate grotto]

Oh gotcha. Makes more sense then. Great changes on their part.

[pulsar granite]

Why are memes not allowed?

[placid rock]

im not knowledable at all when it comes to memes

[sonic turret]

A meme's literally "a unit of cultural information", so a meme can be a gif and a gif can be a meme.

[vital rapids]

memes tend to become megaspamcycles

[zinc owl]

https://c.tenor.com/P5B6lbpzwuQAAAAM/yh.gif

[pulsar granite]

casually includes memes in server stickers

[zinc owl]

true

prime example

[placid rock]

i know what they look like i just dont ever interact with that stuff or even know what memes are common now, i just tend to tune memes out

[pulsar granite]

If you haven't played wolfenstein then missing out yall

[sonic turret]

I've played all of them, but prefer the Raven era.

[zinc owl]

FRRR the newer one was actually pretty decent (highly biased opinion though)

[pulsar granite]

Fuck youngblood

[vital rapids]

I still even wolf3d.exe once in a while

[neon plaza]

I saw Wolfenstein being mentioned.

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/super-nintendo-wolfenstein-3d-wolfenstein-snes-gif-10564913681426794832

[placid rock]

idk why but even on the easiest difficulty i still died a lot on wolfenstein 2

[sonic turret]

The Raven Wolfenstein games had that Indiana Jones vibe, which I loved.

[delicate grotto]

No memes because people couldn’t behave themselves and the moderators were tired of policing the server.

[zinc owl]

LOL I LIKE THE ART STYLEES

[pulsar granite]

Imagine if they confirm that the new Indiana Jones games are in the same wolfenstein reboot timeline (prob not but would be cool)

[neon plaza]

I've been playing the New Colossus recently and my God, it's wonderful.

[vital rapids]

I remember there was pink
nothing else

[pulsar granite]

Fr graphics are so ahead of its time

[sonic turret]

Probably not, but it wouldn't surprise me to see an Easter egg or two.

[delicate grotto]

What’s so bad about Youngblood again?

[vital rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/pink-color-pink-gif-26141073

[delicate grotto]

Lmao

[placid rock]

ok now its just spamming that gif like jeez

[sonic turret]

It just didn't feel like you were playing Wolfenstein, without Terror Billy.

[pulsar granite]

There was like a box of condoms sitting there just there in one cutscene, really pointless but k

[zinc owl]

real lol I only like Youngblood bc art style is good

[delicate grotto]

Ah, understandable.

[zinc owl]

yes

[neon plaza]

The combat system's very cool too.
Way different from other games I've played, but I like the different.
Killing the German Nationalist Party is fun.

[zinc owl]

yhhh ik it's a diff game but destiny 1 was way ahead of its time for xbox 360, still outperforms destiny 2 in some aspects

[limber basin]

Sub to it brotato

Ngl the doom slayer lowk weak

I think I could take him if I locked in yk

[grizzled thicket]

Hell nah

[neon plaza]

What even is Wolfenstein without BJ?

[sonic turret]

Easy on the gifs though because it messes up my antique tech.

[sonic turret]

I got so far into it, but then ended up stuck in a loop, unable to figure my way to the end of the level.

[zinc owl]

w gif? that's last one ima send bc I'm gonna be on insurgency sandstorm for bit

[sonic turret]

Speaking of Indiana Jones, the DLC "Order of Giants" drops on September 4th.

[sudden stump]

Got to say that the music sounds so much better since the patch, can actually hear the whole song now instead of bits and pieces of it randomly

Can't help it feel like FM was unintentionally screwed over by how quiet the music was at launch

[neon plaza]

That is pretty cool.
Also, W Dusk pfp.

[mild ocean]

trying to redeem the verdant slayer skin but when i paste the code i got from NVIDIA into the redeem code page on bethesda it says its invalid despite me never using this code before

anyone know a fix for this?

[lilac swan]

I didn't even know there was going to be DLC for this game

[pulsar granite]

Oh so late

[fleet spruce]

Absolutely, the mixing was atrocious before the patch. Had to change the audio settings to mitigate the issue somewhat.

[pulsar granite]

September 4th is crazy

[mild ocean]

anyone know of a fix for this

[sonic turret]

I mean it's quite a short game by itself.

[pulsar granite]

Maybe it's better if I pre-order the premium edition instead of pirating it now

I've already played it and beat it so whats the fucking point

[lilac swan]

I loved this game, I just didn't like the enemy AI

[sonic turret]

Why late, the longer a developer spends churning out DLC for a game, the better, I guess.

[pulsar granite]

Sta succedendo qualcosa! 🗣️

revolver bang bang

🇮🇹 🇮🇹 🇮🇹

[delicate grotto]

Fr. I’m hearing parts of tracks I’ve never heard before, and it sounds amazing.

[mild ocean]

Anyone know why i cant redeem the verdant slayer skin? i paste the code that i got from NVIDIA into bethesda to redeem the skin but it just says the code is invalid

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/google-exists-google-search-it-geekboy-geekboy-cz-gif-25933207

[delicate grotto]

Lol.

[smoky reef]

It doesn't let me link my steam XD idk what's going on with the site

[hard thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-laptop-drake-gif-21716481

[mild ocean]

tried that

didnt work

[hard thistle]

means someone else used it before u

[mild ocean]

can i get a new code for the skin then or am i just locked out of it forever

[hard thistle]

well the code being used is just my theory, n I donno. Go send a ticket to id/bethesda. I had problems with skins in eternal n they helped me get em

[pulsar granite]

Ouch then

Nvidia scammed you, nothing new

[smoky reef]

It's on Nvidia's side yeah

Sometimes the code system goes brrr

[pulsar granite]

Knowing them they probably won't fix it

[lament grove]

4 more chapters then UN run is done 🔥

[hard thistle]

Goodluck

[mild ocean]

my friend might give me a code for the skin so will i be able to redeem it and get the skin?

[hard thistle]

if ur friend hasn't used the code, yeah

[slender night]

Try on an alt

[pulsar granite]

Good luck my guy

[mild ocean]

wait

if i switched to ultra violent on chapter 3

and if i havent switched off will i still get the nightmare outfit for the slayer?

[ornate portal]

guys i forgot how to parry monsters when you are in the giant suit?

[pulsar granite]

Uhh... You don't.

You just dodge the attacks, you can't parry them.

[sonic turret]

So somebody reckons they've spotted the Marauder in TDA.

[pulsar granite]

Probably one of the night sentinels wearing the armor

[ornate portal]

oh ok thx im getting blasted lol

[sonic turret]

Of course, he's in human form at this point.

[pulsar granite]

It's a cool Easter egg tho 👍

[delicate grotto]

Favorite non-Boss level?
Mine’s between Spire of Nerathul, Temple of Lomarith or Harbor of Souls.

[boreal locust]

Chapter 6

[honest vortex]

The name of Dark Ages levels really sound like DOOM 64 titles

[foggy breach]

I really love the callback to 2016 in the Harbor of Souls level.

[silent surge]

reckoning and resurrection or cosmic maps
though there’s a bit of walking around in reckoning

[pulsar granite]

"Even simpler"

[urban whale]

Hey guys Does anyone have a 3D model of Commander Thira?

[pulsar granite]

For what purposes 🤨 🫵

[urban whale]

No, no, no, don't get me wrong, I wanted it for Edit.

So do you have her?

[delicate grotto]

Reckoning has awesome Hell aesthetic. Best amongst the three modern games, imo. Love it for that alone.

[mild ocean]

is ground fissure better then heaven splitter? i know both shield runes are very good but which is the best?

[pulsar granite]

I've never used heaven splitter so I have no idea but since a lot of people use the latter it probably is the better one

[woven jolt]

anyone know if both of the impaler upgrades deal the same amount of damage?

for the 2nd upgrade

[pulsar granite]

The first one deals more damage

[woven jolt]

k

[vivid umbra]

I’ve used both heaven splitter is better but stuns less total enemies

[silent surge]

infernal chasm though!!

[honest vortex]

Might be my second. I think I like Titan's Realm a bit more

[honest vortex]

Anyway, am I the only one who thinks Reckoning looks like a hybrid of Nekravol AND 2016's Hell?

One of my friends said they ONLY see Nekravol in it and they don't see the 2016 comparison

But idk I personally see Kadingir Sanctum and Argent D'Nur in Reckoning.

[frail bloom]

What is Reckoning???

[honest vortex]

God tier song.

In my top 5-10 DOOM songs ever.

Yes I like it as much as Mick Gordon's very very best works.

[honest vortex]

Chapter 22

[frail bloom]

Oh ye lol

Allstin "crashed out" earlier

It's like crashing out, but valid

He pointed out some truths in Allstin fashion

What's the positive version of crashing out, he did that

[silent surge]

millennial man rants about stuff people need to hear

[coarse ermine]

Thira looking like sans from undertale as her eye glows blue
Coincidence? I think not/j

[lament grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1125516357602127892/1381388099422126182/DOOM_The_Dark_Ages_Screenshot_2025.06.08_-_22.42.33.10.png?ex=6847556b&is=684603eb&hm=7874c691994af662ea727f73d69c0fc30f2ba8afa5a3fc992bf682a126f656a4& RAHHHHH

[frail bloom]

Damn, big guy

[honest vortex]

I swear this game looks straight up photorealistic at times.

Looks like next gen DOOM 2016 or DOOM 3 here:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1239360180966260802/1381387989111799918/i-made-friends-with-a-armless-hell-knight-general-gameplay-v0-bDhubjB6dGJpaDBmMQeAgeC2ldhirQ43LXMgjQcEyJKceFVK_6trfrPhDOVz.jpg?ex=68475551&is=684603d1&hm=5b199efc48300c37658a63ac9b19835eb8b7b4ad337e1ed6aa6f02aa2315d5d6&

[frail bloom]

What's your hdr sir

[honest vortex]

Compression did not treat this image kindly. Dam

[frail bloom]

Mine looks washed out

[honest vortex]

Nice

[frail bloom]

I want that 2016 grittiness sir

[pulsar granite]

It gives that classic doom vibe with fsr 3 ultra performance mode with the pixelated look

[eternal mauve]

ayo, this site is closed circle of adoration or wwhat?

[pulsar granite]

What?

[cosmic wadi]

City of Ry'uul is indisputably the goat

[placid rock]

favorite would be the first dragon level ^^

[placid rock]

is desaturation on?

[delicate grotto]

I can definitely see a 2016 vibe in Reckoning’s design, especially with its more muted browns and reds. Gives off a sense of decay and despair that Kadingir Sanctum nailed.

[frail bloom]

No I have it to the max

[placid rock]

desaturation to max?!

[frail bloom]

It kinda reminds me of this lol
#videos message

[placid rock]

that would make your game black a white

[delicate grotto]

Yeah I like how the dragon is used to get around massive areas. Definitely gives a sense of scale to the level.

[frail bloom]

I have no clue what it's on

[delicate grotto]

All Cosmic Realm levels are honestly top tier

[frail bloom]

I will check in 7:00

[pulsar granite]

I have an idea to make it look like classic doom. Put fsr 3 at ultra performance with max sharpness, put sharpening at 20 and put the resolution to the lowest. There you go, that's a classic doom game

[placid rock]

hmmmm... mayhaps ill try that

https://tenor.com/view/idle-phase2doom-gif-25740534

[honest vortex]

Also reminds me of the second arena of Argent D'Nur with all the trees and blood polls and rock terrain

[delicate grotto]

Yeah for sure

[placid rock]

if i want to be honest... i want to explore more of immora or just another hell city somehow

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-hit-gif-25740533

[cosmic wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-true-launch-the-true-doom-launch-the-true-gif-17039720600748597696

[lament grove]

i just need to get 3 more achievements then i can finally put the game to rest until the dlc releases

[honest vortex]

I'll try to rank modern DOOM HELL levels aesthetically IMO:

1. Titan's Realm
2. Reckoning
3. Forsaken Plains
4. Hellbreaker
5. Kadingir Sanctum
6. Necropolis
7. Argent D'Nur
8. Nekravol Part 1
9. Nekravol Part 2
10. Blood Swamps
11. Exultia

[delicate grotto]

We need a Doom game that takes place in Hell for the majority of its campaign 🙏

The environmental art for these games are some of the best I’ve seen. Especially when it comes to its fantasy elements.

[placid rock]

grr

[pulsar granite]

What was bro typing

[placid rock]

immora!

[placid rock]

i put too many a's

[delicate grotto]

Pretty good list! I’d definitely have a couple cosmic realm levels in there personally.

[placid rock]

deleted

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016

[placid rock]

lol

[honest vortex]

I wasn't thinking about Cosmic Realm.

But I suppose it's technically Hell

[pulsar granite]

qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm

[placid rock]

what about immora?

[delicate grotto]

Oh my bad, you meant specifically Hell levels, lmao.

[pulsar granite]

Doom 1993 has 2 episodes in hell 😭 thats the vast majority

[honest vortex]

I just reread it and forgot to put HELL in the list. Lmao.

I just edited it to fix it

[honest vortex]

Tbh with you.... below Exultia.

[pulsar granite]

Wait lemme see if this counts as spam one sec

Qawaearatayauaiaoapasadafagahajakalazaxacavabanama

[honest vortex]

"Modern DOOM"

[placid rock]

eh i consider it better than the weird urdak designs tbh

[pulsar granite]

Then fuck that we're never getting it 😭

[honest vortex]

Me?

[pulsar granite]

No, @placid rock

[placid rock]

why the ping?!

[pulsar granite]

[lilac swan]

I would put kadingir sanctum in first place, I loved the yellowish tone of this level, much more beautiful than the orange tone

[honest vortex]

But if we include beyond just Hell missions.

I'd say VEGA Central Processing and the Cosmic Realm have my favorite aesthetics in the modern DOOM games most likely

[pulsar granite]

Is it technically in Mexico because of the yellowish tone??

[placid rock]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-goose-peace-was-never-any-option-gif-16563148593469228887

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-looking-around-looking-around-orange-cat-doom-1993-gif-1032019449693505825

[honest vortex]

That's fair. I love how abstract 2016 Titan's Realm was however.

[pulsar granite]

grr

[honest vortex]

Though 2016 Hell missions are very abstract in general

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-doom-1993-deathmatch-hop-on-deathmatch-hop-on-gif-11142207695037927806

[placid rock]

thats kinda why i liked the immora stuff cause everything felt more abstract with the structures and hell tech

nothing really made sense and everything was red tech and just having glowing bits everywhere, just a very interesting design to me to put in hell

[lilac swan]

But the cosmic realm had the perfect atmosphere in my opinion

[placid rock]

this

[pulsar granite]

You send an image of a bunny next to a helmet...

[stoic sleet]

I wish the cosmic had one more level

[placid rock]

i wish the dragon had one last level

[lilac swan]

There are four levels if I'm not mistaken

[pulsar granite]

Ngl I didn't like the dragon sections a lot

[stoic sleet]

I feel like the short flight at the end of Ressurection is cool tho

Its like some sort of last bonding time

[pulsar granite]

Doom server when someone has an opinion

[placid rock]

i wouldve prefered if slayer ||saved his dragon||

[pulsar granite]

Cant wait for slayer to commit tax fraud

[honest vortex]

Facts

[placid rock]

he already did lmao

[pulsar granite]

I want thira to die

[placid rock]

makes no sense to kill a good character 🤦‍♂️

[lilac swan]

Cool that almost everyone wants her dead

[pulsar granite]

She is just too much trouble

[delicate grotto]

I feel like TDA is setting up a Thira spinoff ngl

[placid rock]

very doubtful

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-goodness-gracious-doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-thira-gif-14544958189392515884

[delicate grotto]

The wraith powers she has, and Hugo mentioning interest in having a female “Doom Slayer” makes me wonder

[pulsar granite]

This shit is why I want her dead

[delicate grotto]

Lmfao

[pulsar granite]

cough cough now the doom fandom is gonna devolve to a gun cave

[placid rock]

thira is literally one of the few female characters thats not oversexualized and actually has a good charcater arc for believing in doomslayer, like makes no sense to why people would hate her cause shes one of the first people TO BELIEVE in the doomslayer

[pulsar granite]

Asscrack and goons

[placid rock]

i dont even like her like that 💀

[pulsar granite]

Guner

[placid rock]

not one cause i rather not waste my time on stupid stuff like that

[pulsar granite]

Chat what would happen if I just typed the letter N

[smoky reef]

well bad end for u I suppose

[placid rock]

-_-

[pulsar granite]

Nah when I typed n I couldn't possibly imagine how the chain was gonna end up

[placid rock]

okaaay gonna just be on snapmap and not get trapped in here before another argument about lore or gameplay happens

[arctic nest]

Hey, started playing the Dark Ages today. I must say that this soundtrack may be worse than the ones made by Mick Gordon, still there are some absolute bangers themes, but overall this is FIRE.

STAND. AND. FIGHT!

[pulsar condor]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-cacodemon-demon-cute-gif-7070685866677885551

[terse wharf]

alguno que hable en español y me ayude con un error?

[heady cloud]

hey does anyone here has 4000 or 5000 series Nvidia GPU ? want to verify if frame gen is causing vram memory leak which i am getting.

[delicate grotto]

Might change your mind when you get to hear some real bangers in the later levels, but glad you’re enjoying it man

[honest vortex]

I just don't understand how someone can hear Infernal Chasm and go; "WTF man.. THIS sucks so hard compared to Mick Gordon!"

[honest vortex]

Yeah it's a God tier game

There's not enough people who mention the super cool references Infernal Chasm makes to Running From Evil and Countdown to Death from DOOM II. 😢

Ya know what....

After returning to Reckoning, I might have to agree with Elemental.

I might like how it looks more than Titan's Realm.

Infernal Chasm bias also plays a part in my preference as I'm slowly starting to think Infernal Chasm might quite literally be my #1 favorite song in the whole franchise

[frail bloom]

Uh huh

[vital rapids]

The gameplay and memories you attach to the track really matter
Doom 3 theme is a good example for me

[honest vortex]

This is going to sound crazy but Dark Ages is the most I've been impressed with a modern DOOM game upon launch

Not even 2016 first coming out and resurrecting the franchise blew me away as much as Dark Ages.

[neon perch]

TDA's atmosphere and art direction is so fucking amazing.

Hell looks ace.

[vital rapids]

We're both crazy then dude
Which is totally possible 😂

[honest vortex]

Infernal Chasm actually reminds me a lot of Rip and Tear

But even better somehow

[warm comet]

Dark Ages has risen to my favorite doom game. It's just a shame its gonna take like three years before that's not an unpopular opinion

[honest vortex]

Hell yeah . I still remember the first time I reached Kadingir Sanctum back in 2016. How mindblown I was. Or stopping VEGA's Core

The fact that Dark Ages topped even those moments is INSANE.

I legit can't believe it.

[smoky reef]

Facts

[mental grotto]

Bullied a guy out of the server the other day because you’re too mature to laugh at a crude sex joke, yet you come in here with this absurdly low hanging fruit.

[honest vortex]

The Facebook DOOM group likes Dark Ages the most . Even more than Eternal

Which really surprises me because that group glazes Eternal like no tomorrow.

So looks like FB DOOM group is ahead of the curve I guess? Lmao

[honest vortex]

It's like every best aspect of Nekravol and 2016 and even the classic game's depiction of HELL put into one.

It's pretty much the PERFECT Hell really

[honest vortex]

I hope in a year or two, Infernal Chasm will be seen as JUST as iconic as BFG Division and The Only Thing They Fear is You

[warm comet]

I love TDA sm sm sm. It's all I've been thinking about playing all day. Thank God im off work now

[honest vortex]

I low-key ||like Infernal Chasm more than BFG Division and TOTTFIY COMBINED||

Yeah I said it lol

Also there's a part of Infernal Chasm that has the most insane bassline and percussion in DOOM history, but it doesn't seem to be on the OST version unfortunately.

Only on Game Rips

You know that cutscene from DOOM 2016 where Doomguy grabs and shoots a bunch of imps with a Shotgun?

Infernal Chasm feels like the THEME SONG for that moment

Feels even more that way than E1M1 and Rip and Tear do

[honest vortex]

When I hear Infernal Chasm I literally just think of 3:37 from this:
https://youtu.be/oTbARnx-UX0?si=AJdoTqyn6Nw6KAMx

[fair jasper]

Someone quick, teach me the shield speed tech

[honest vortex]

Tbh I actually hope someone makes an edit with Infernal Chasm for that sometime

[frail bloom]

History? Never heard of her

[honest vortex]

I mean I get the moment is a reference to the 1993 cover, but Infernal Chasm is still perfect for it

Damn. Overwhelming majority of the DOOM Facebook group seems to like Dark Ages more than Eternal:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1043033811941863475/1381419868171014195/Screenshot_20250608-164759.png?ex=68477302&is=68462182&hm=95563c7d1cfe8ffdac8e8abc88d06cee836002f80a179b5b135ee143d8847147&

That's actually saying something because that group glazes TF out of Eternal

[frail bloom]

I mean, I will give it iconic status, but I prefer mick, then I prefer bobby prince overall

They still have a chance to be equal when dlc kicks

Better blow my socks off

[honest vortex]

I don't really like Eternal's music that much unfortunately.

Though part of that is because I got extremely fatigued from it and it got super overplayed

Back in 2020-2022 I did like Eternal's music a lot though

[real crater]

meathook got old fast in my opinion

[frail bloom]

I'm not even talking abt eternal, mick just has higher highs for me, I can wait and be patient tho

[real crater]

its not bad it just doesnt have the magic of other eternal tracksk

[frail bloom]

@hard thistle weird question to ask here, but if the Harvester were to be in a doom game, what would yu want its codex to include?

[hard thistle]

Probably just emphasize more of it turning souls into energy like portable Nekravol. I wonder why they never added them to Eternal.

[frail bloom]

Ty

[foggy breach]

Harvester would be a good addition on the enemy roster.

[bold mulch]

my demon wishlist for dlc is harvester
marauder
i'm reluctant to say archvile
and maybe a new maykr enemy

[foggy breach]

I'd like to see the Archvile back.

[brazen cove]

Archvile leader

[twilit pumice]

Playing through Doom Eternal atm
Took a walk into Doom Marine's room, and noticed a helmet he has on a workbench to the left side of the preator suit off. Helmet looks roughly similar to his helmet in TDA

[uneven basin]

are any of the other melees worth using, or is dreadmace just the ebst option?

[twilit pumice]

I mean there's the gauntlets that can stun lock, damage dealt increase infliction, and AoE chain attack.

[hybrid sparrow]

Flail generates armour easily

[light cairn]

#videos message

Does anyone have a solution?

[real lynx]

Gauntlet has quick regen and applies shock for extra damage, flail is good for making armor and has decent aoe damage

[delicate grotto]

Lmao, I broke Spire of Nerathul. Where you free ||The Old One||

All sorts of shit went wrong. Broken objective markers. Serrat clipping and bugging through the terrain. Demons spawning in at the arena I’m supposed to be able to access whilst flying Serrat. The last landing area not opening and letting me progress.

Right after I praised this level too, smh. No clue what caused this. Game has been bug free for me until this.

Pretty funny though

Kind of fun fighting the demon horde on Serrat lol

Bruh the more I reload my checkpoint the more broken the level gets

[twilit pumice]

And I think with every parry Gauntlets gets a melee charge.

[delicate grotto]

Now the objective markers reset and are placed a mile away from the actual map lol

[oblique raft]

doom dark ages campign is so long

[mild ocean]

Is ground fissure better then heaven splitter? wanna know which shield rune is better between the 2

[honest vortex]

Tbh . The game has been pretty buggy for me generally
(Nowhere near as much as Eternal but still)

But GOATed game regardless

[sonic turret]

One thing I miss in TDA is the proper in-fighting that we used to have in classic Doom.

I mean we had it in Eternal, but they didn't really kill each other and it served no purpose other than that they'd be distracted.

[fleet spruce]

I'd argue that Into the Void is closer to Rip & Tear in how it sounds

[honest vortex]

2016 was probably the best example of this for modern DOOM.

Demons could infight AND kill each other

[split gate]

Chat call me delusional but TDA is the Pokemon Black and White of the series, unappreciated by the fans in its age, appreciated later in the years 🙏😭

[delicate grotto]

Are we deadass with this… I just replayed the same level again and it broke again. Reloaded to fix it, now it spawned me at the beginning of the mission softlocked.

[honest vortex]

You can even force 2016 demons to kill each other if you get in the way of other demons and they accidentally friendly fire.

I miss that.

Idk why 2016 is the only modern DOOM that made an effort to infighting.

[honest vortex]

flashbacks to when I got various soft locks to literally EVERY time I replayed Arc Complex

[honest vortex]

Tbf. I think Eternal was kinda like that at launch

[delicate grotto]

Guess I can’t 100% my save file, again. This is the second save I’ve had a bug preventing me from 100%’ing it lol. First with the Shredder breaking after getting the mastery challenge for it.
Other than that, game’s been great. Guess I’ll have to wait for a fix to platinum the game.

[split gate]

Guess history will repeat itself

[honest vortex]

That sucks man. I think TDA is the only modern DOOM that hasn't soft locked for me. So that's surprising to hear

[delicate grotto]

Funny enough this is the only Doom game that has ever softlocked me

[honest vortex]

That reminds me more of Transistor Fist or something

[vivid umbra]

Same but sometimes if I reload checkpoint enough it works

[honest vortex]

Oh. I'd sometimes get soft locks on VEGA Core in 2016, and Eternal soft locked ALL the time

[delicate grotto]

Damn

[honest vortex]

Ironically enough my favorite 2016 mission is the one that soft locked the most in 2016. 😂

[honest vortex]

VEGA Central Processing that is

[fleet spruce]

I don't see how it could remind of transistor fist, transistor fist is very synth heavy with some guitar here and there. Meanwhile both Rip & Tear and Into the Void are heavy as fuck.

[delicate grotto]

Why is it always some of the best missions that do this

[honest vortex]

You're right.

Flesh and Metal is probably a more apt comparison than Transistor Fist

[boreal locust]

I’m already bored of the game 50hrs in

[delicate grotto]

“Already” and “50 hours”
Wild.

[boreal locust]

callback like a memory or some Easter egg?

[boreal locust]

Ya heard it

[foggy breach]

When the Slayer wakes up in Hell with King Novik's speech from 2016.
It's in this game.

[split gate]

Flesh and Metal is my favourite track in 2016, very rage inducing

[boreal locust]

Ahhh yeah yeah

[honest vortex]

I'm torn between Flesh and Metal and VEGA Core

Both songs are my favorite songs from Mick Gordon in general, not even just 2016.

[fleet spruce]

Just listen to how heavy combat part sounds in both, Flesh & Metal doesn't work for comparison either
https://youtu.be/RPjaaVupaB8
https://youtu.be/0R17jGipMOE

[honest vortex]

It's funny that I love VEGA Core so much, when it's generally too techno and dub wub for my tastes.

But somehow VEGA Core did it in a way that absolutely FUCKS

[honest vortex]

In terms of heaviness they're similar. Though the general melody of Infernal Chasm reminds me more of it

[dire prism]

wait what the fuck

how the fuck is getting 400 fps on dark ages even possible

5090 or some shit i assume

[frank turtle]

is heaven splitter the best rune for UN?

I'm mainly using the impaler and rocket launcher

[fleet spruce]

Gonna be honest, I don't hear it. Just went thru both again, which i think is primarily due to differences in style.

[inner wigeon]

Did they fix berserker for all of you too? Worked for me

[real lynx]

Framegen

[dire prism]

Gotcha thanks

[north spire]

my top 3 is currently Rip & Tear, Vega Core, and BFG Division

[storm magnet]

Anyone know if you still get the gold skins if you tweak the difficulty settings in ultra nightmare?

[hollow sandal]

Yes, you'll get the skin

[honest vortex]

1. VEGA Core
2. Flesh and Metal
3. Skullhacker
4. Harbinger
5. Rip and Tear (Game Rip)
6. Damnation+Hell Choirs
7. Rust Dust and Guts
8. BFG Division
9. Transitor Fist
10. E1M1 (2016 remix)

[honest vortex]

If it counts. The VEGA train elevator ride is unironically a favorite of mine too

For Eternal:

1. Gladiator
2. Doom Hunted
3. Reclaimed Earth

... and well that's about it lol

[fair dragon]

Guys how can I turn off the benchmark thing in this game. It’s only appear in it.

[torpid pebble]

Hey, I wanna talk about the plot a bit.

I have a theory that this game isn't actually a prequel.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/s/cjDRlHO2VZ

I put my theory there and I'd like feedback.

[north spire]

im a little curious as to what the music is gonna be like in the dlc

and ngl, ill be a little mixed if they switch composers again

if they get someone like Andrew Hulshult or Geoffry Day, that would be really cool

but I'd also be sad cause I think Finishing Move Inc. does have potential to deliver some good ass music

[mild ocean]

if possible would anyone be able to send me the code for the verdant slayer skin? my code just doesnt work and my friend doesnt even see the verdant slayer on the NVIDIA app. i dont like to be asking people but i also really want that slayer outfit and if anyone does actually do this just send the code to redeem the skin in my dms please.

send it to me in dms if anyone will end up giving the code for the verdant slayer

[torpid pebble]

Is it just me, or does the music in Spire of Neranthul sound like it borrows from Iron Man by Black Sabbath?

I keep hearing the one guitar part that repeats and go like, "I. Am. Iron Man." To it.

[barren warren]

arguably yes because of the long stun duration, large area of effect, 20% damage debuff, and the ability to easily stun super heavies

holy swarm is the best for raw damage

[torpid pebble]

Lore, is that a shield saw decal on your avatar?

[barren warren]

yep, got it from the discord quest when it released

[torpid pebble]

Nice

[barren warren]

to me at least, the part of the track that plays during the komodo champion fight sounds similar to stone cold crazy by queen

[real lynx]

Ground fissue does good damage and gives armor. Really they are all good except auto turret

[torpid pebble]

Did Finishing move get Bobby Prince onboard to do "songs that sound like other songs but are just different enough to be legally distinct" like the good old days?

Auto turret is disappointing mainly because I really like the slayer having a predator-style shoulder gun, and wish it was used more like the one in Eternal.

It felt like the devs intended to give him one but thought it was too powerful to be used at will so they made it a shield rune instead.

[barren warren]

i use heaven splitter over ground fissure because i don’t find the armor gain to be substantial enough and the stun + shock allows me to get in close with the ssg/gauntlet/dreadmace with no risk

[torpid pebble]

Which would explain why it's not a magic attack like the other three.

[mild ocean]

is heaven splitter better then ground fissure?

[barren warren]

honestly heaven splitter is better if you play more aggressively while ground fissure is better if you need that extra bit of survivability

[mild ocean]

alr thanks

[barren warren]

stunning komodos for a good few seconds is funni

also ground fissure and holy swarm can directly rob you of executions

[torpid pebble]

Did you guys know some monsters have unique execution for jumping and jumping at their back?

Like, if you execute a Mancubus while jumping at its front, you'll saw it on half down the middle. If you execute while jumping at its back, your throw your shield onto a machine on its back which malfunctions and kills it.

[fleet spruce]

It doesn't make sense, like at all

[torpid pebble]

Okay, how does it not make sense?

[vale furnace]

anyone else had encounters fail to spawn? i was just playing the stomach level, went through a door, the barrier came up, music ramped up, but no enemies would spawn. tried reloading checkpoint a couple times, same thing, just had to restart the level. this was just on a regular nightmare playthrough, so at least it wasnt a UN run lol. if i got soft locked because of that, i'd be pissed.

[torpid pebble]

I'm playing Siege part 1, and I had an encounter where an Imp spawns behind a gate, and the gate's supposed to open, but it didn't, leaving the Imp safe from and leaving me stuck in that room with no choice but to start over.

[fleet spruce]

It's simple because it doesn't line up with timeline of events. Besides they feared him due to him being under maykr control.

[delicate grotto]

Because everything happening in the game has been hinted at through the lore in Eternal’s codexes.
And maybe it’s because the developers have also confirmed it’s a prequel, lol.

[torpid pebble]

Plenty of things differ from the codex in Eternal.

The eternal codex says that Doomguy was beloved and admired for his performance as a gladiator, and made into a king after killing that titan.

Both of those things already happened by the beginning of Dark Ages, but rather than a king, he seems to be a slave for the makyrs.

Furthermore, instead of admiring you, civilians are scared shitless of you. Worridly warning each other not to do anything that could anger you and to stay out of your way.

[fleet spruce]

Maykr control ^

[torpid pebble]

Novik even announces to everyone to stay away from you because you're dangerous and calls you a weapon.

Thira's the only one who treats the Slayer like a person the whole game.

[fleet spruce]

That's a result of getting divinity machine buffs

[torpid pebble]

Again, the eternal codexes say he was made a king for killing the titan. That is clearly not the case in Dark Ages.

Arachnotrons are present in Dark Ages, even though the eternal codex for it says that Ranak made them from genetic samples of the Spider Mastermind's corpse.

Even though Dark Ages takes place before the Slayer kills the Mastermind, and before Ranak defects to help.

*hell

[vivid umbra]

Doom 1 has spider mastermind to turn into arachnotrons in tda

[fleet spruce]

take a closer look at their design, they don't look like they have the high tech augmentation and stuff unlike ones in Eternal. Also Mastermind happened in original Doom.

[torpid pebble]

Dooms 1, 2, and 64 happen in a different timeline than 2016 and Eternal.

Even if you're taking Doom 1 into consideration, that was also supposed to happen way after Dark Ages.

Oh, I forgot to mention a big one in the reddit post.

In Eternal, Hayden tells you Hebert was from before your time with the Sentinels. In Dark Ages, it's the second level.

*Hebeth

[vivid umbra]

Kreed talks about khan makyr in a cutscene like she’s alive in tda

[torpid pebble]

Yeah, I think it's a different timeline, not a future one.

[vivid umbra]

Also eternal shows a cutscene that was doom 1993

[fleet spruce]

timeline is the same, however the present universe of TDA, 2016 and Eternal is different

[inner wigeon]

Everything said in this theory is either over complicated or simply contradictions to keep gameplay narritive

[fleet spruce]

Hell dimension travel shenanigans

[inner wigeon]

It’s also explicitly stated she’s alive in siege 1

[spare panther]

the sentinels call the planet mars hebeth, that particular city was probably lost before doomguy arrived on argent d'nur and hayden just forgot its actual name or smth

[vivid umbra]

That’s what I meant forgot which level he says it

[delicate grotto]

No, he was given the title of a Night Sentinel, the most elite guard of Argenta civilization.
The Maykrs took control over him, which is why (in the beginning when he’s still under their influence) King Novik advises caution.
Arachnotrons are not solely tied to 2016’s Spider Mastermind. Hell traverses all realms and timelines. There are multiple “breeds” of the same demon. The Spectre and Mancubi codexes help explain this in Eternal.

The Betrayer’s son is also in TDA. We see him in a few cutscenes. In Eternal, the Betrayer’s son has already had his soul corrupted and twisted into powering the Icon of Sin. So he could not be alive if this game weren’t a prequel.

The Unholy Crusade, explained in Eternal’s codexes, is how the last of the Night Sentinels and the Doom Slayer got trapped in Hell. This is when the Betrayer is influenced to turn on his comrades in exchange for his son’s life. The rest of the Sentinels are slain as a result. In Doom 2016, we see the ghosts of these Night Sentinel pay their respects to the Slayer.

From there, the Doom Slayer fights Hell for an unknown amount of time until he is entombed and eventually excavated by Samur.

At the end of Doom Eternal, Davoth is defeated and Hell can no longer exist outside their realm. They cannot invade Argent D’Nur like we see them doing in TDA.

Hugo Martin, the game director, also said that this game is exploring the Slayer Testaments. It’s understood that the events of these testaments took place before Doom 2016, and Doom 2016 took place before Doom Eternal.

[torpid pebble]

Thanks for the feedback on my theory. I just like talking about this stuff.

I admit, it's mostly wishful thinking.

I hate prequels. I'd much rather see a narrative advanced than see something I know the ultimate conclusiin to.

[vivid umbra]

Prequels I like them a lot cause I know the conclusion but we don’t how Olivia and Samuel find doom guy

[torpid pebble]

I seem to recall that in 2016 you see holograph recording in the He'll level where you see Hayden and his redshirts travelling through hell and finding the slayer's Tomb.

[vivid umbra]

In kadingar sanctum yeah but now we will know when he gets in the tomb and tda isn’t gonna show what happened they said they’re making multiple games in this era

[sonic turret]

What's a red shirt?

[vivid umbra]

I just assumed he meant the guys helping Samuel in hell

[torpid pebble]

Redshirts are nameless peons that back up main characters in the plot, frequently dying to show how serious or dangerous the situation is.

[vivid umbra]

Ohhhh

[torpid pebble]

In the classic Star Trek series, landing parties would frequently consist of Captain Kirk (gold shirt) first mate Spock (blue shirt) Dr. McCoy (blue shirt) and some randos in red shirts who didn't show up before that episode and usually wouldn't show up after, frequently due to dying.

[vivid umbra]

Makes sense

[wild rose]

Actually, I'm almost sure Eternal really mentions something about him becoming a king

[delicate grotto]

At most he was the “king” of the Night Sentinels. Their leader.

Don’t really think a King role would suit him either. Solo kind of a guy.

[hardy echo]

Aye thanks, it might be because i have to use gifs, and capcut

[honest vortex]

Why does nobody talk about the Forest level?

It's so fucking awesome.

And gorgeous

Though I will admit the music on the Forest level is kinda bland.

Maybe that's the reason?

Anyway replaying a lot of Dark Ages missions today, and the first half in general feels like it has bland music in general outside of Siege Part 1

The 2nd half has CONSISTENTLY fantastic music on the other hand

[honest vortex]

When I play the first half of the game I do understand the sentiments that the music is "Mick Gordon at home" or "bland"

But when you reach the second half of the game, and start hearing Into the Void, Infernal Chasm etc....that is when it hits you....the music is GODLIKE

[fleet spruce]

I don't think it's bland, rather just not as interesting as other tracks

[dark thunder]

So basically what ur saying is the dlc will be called the unholy crusades

[fleet spruce]

That's just most reasonable assumption based on what we have at the moment

[twilit pumice]

I feel the ost is overall incredible. Just that later tracks are much more noticeable such as Blood Spill, Wither & Writhe, and Hex & Flame.
The beginning does have When Shadows First Lengthened, From the Ashes, and Atlan Battleground.

[terse wharf]

Good evening, could someone help me with an error I'm having on Steam?

[twilit pumice]

TDA main menu track, When Shadows first lengthened, is one of my favorites. Up there with Doom 3 main menu Tweaker and Quake 1's main menu track for me.

[fair elk]

I don't know if it's me but I think since the last update with the audio fix it sounded as if they also added in stems that weren't previously heard in lieu with the enemy balances. Like the first mission in Khalim City the warm up arenas sound so much heavier and there was also a riff that I never heard before when I first played TDA

Although I can only say this for the first mission as I'm just playing about with slider settings for my second playthrough

[real lynx]

The doom 3 theme goes so insanely hard

[random quail]

Yo chat, after I finish the game on Ultra violence, how do I get the replay levels to register nightmare? Or do I have to start a new save?

[fleet spruce]

pretty sure that has to be a new save

[delicate grotto]

You’d be correct. I also noticed this. The tracks have been remixed with better clarity, fluidity and additional stems.

[half spindle]

I love ost of this game.

[delicate grotto]

Same. As others pointed out, many of the earlier missions have less distinguishable tracks than the latter half, but they’re still a good listen in their own right. Plus, WTSFL and From the Ashes are absolute bangers.

[smoky reef]

They've covered the loss of Mick quite well tbh, I was scared to see what they would create without him

[vital rapids]

Yeah, the way that hook dips down, nice and heavy.

[random quail]

They need to do what's right for business and put feelings aside to bring Mick back for the fans. It's just good for business.

[vital rapids]

I don't think it would make a lot of difference tbh. The current music is worth listening to outside the game, it's more than serviceable

[strong grotto]

man why the path tracing update is taking so long

[vital rapids]

Also the people who are very upset about it not being mick also seem to often be upset about it not being like eternal, too, and that's not changing. So all they would get is more complaints. It's not worth trying to please people who will never be pleased because of a whole gamut of bias

[vital rapids]

Right? Can't wait
Although also bit nervous about how demanding it could be

[strong grotto]

ill just appreciate the visuals for some time and turn it off
i dont have a 5090 to play with pt
i have a 9070

can do cyberpunk with pt 50-60fps but it crashes eventually
hope its just cuz this game is mostly optimised for nvidia

[twilit pumice]

Yeah, I can't get myself to enjoy 2016 ost outside of the game. And truly only songs I like are the ambient and opera tracks.

[mossy juniper]

i got a 5080 just to play with PT in games that support it

[twilit pumice]

Yeah, no. Much prefer Finishing Move over another Mick ost.
I love Mick's other work way more. Especially his wolfenstein osts.

[mossy juniper]

If you wanna nuke your game use

r_ssrMinSmoothness

this determines the minimum smoothness required on a material to render a glossy reflection pass over it

although it says SSR I found it also affects RT reflections. not just screenspace

[strong grotto]

oop i was looking for the command

[mossy juniper]

It seems the RT reflections are not calculated for matte materials at all

[strong grotto]

eternal had one iirc

[vital rapids]

Yeah. I can remember the themes from classic doom and Doom 3 now, and that heavy section from WtSFL in TDA. 2016 not so much tbh

[twilit pumice]

As someone who actually listens to industrial metal, Mick's Doom osts are flat and repetitive. There are a few songs that I do enjoy. Only a few

[mossy juniper]

So can't wait to see rough reflections with Path Tracing

I wish the SSDO had less noise on max settings

It's quite noticeable at times

[twilit pumice]

Truly, the only main menus I can't remember is 2016 and Eternal. Doom 64 is just as iconic and recognizable as the others

[graceful lion]

im interested to see how much the raytracing would improve

[pulsar granite]

Holy it seems that eternal with rt runs better than tda on my pc (both at low settings)

[fleet spruce]

Eternal's pretty memorable imo, but Doom 2016 main menu theme is basically Quake main menu theme lmao

[pulsar granite]

Eternal is just da da da da da

[uneven dragon]

2016’s menu is p memorable for me at least

Eternal’s is very memorable though it’s just awesome

[twilit pumice]

Eternal is only memorable to me cuz of Opening to Hell being incorporated into it.
Andrew Hulshult took some inspiration from it with his cover of Opening to Hell

[twilit pumice]

Not exactly understanding your comparison of 2016 main menu to Quake

[fleet spruce]

Eternal has 2 menu themes, base and ancient gods. Base is done by Mick Gordon and TAG is by David Levy.

[fleet spruce]

Both start off heavy but become ambient track afterwards, they way synths are done is also extremely similar

[twilit pumice]

I need to listen to TAG's.
I'm pretty psyched for TAG'S ost honestly. Knowing David Levy and Andrew Hulshult made it.

[fleet spruce]

Oh they have done incredible work on the DLCs

[twilit pumice]

I can see that comparison.
That scream does fade away into silence as it multiples into distorted overlapping screams.

[fleet spruce]

Here's a mix i constantly come back to
https://youtu.be/F_1l6oDwilg

[jolly relic]

Almost finished tda

[twilit pumice]

Just listening to it within moments it's better than Mick's doom work.

[pulsar granite]

Difficulty and game speed

[pulsar granite]

Why didn't they use this guy for tda?

[jolly relic]

Normal speed and normal difficulty, I tried hard mode and ended up dying a lot

[fleet spruce]

I assume it's because game was already being in production so they worked with Finishing Move during that time, and since someone needed to compose for the DLCs they hired Levy and Hulshult.

[jolly relic]

Can someone please tell me if I should still mark lore things as spoiler?

And how to do it please?

[graceful lion]

well, tda also likely needed a team

[graceful lion]

you dont have to, but alot of people still didnt play or finish the game, so its mostly human decency
||you spoiler your messages by having two of those on each side||

[jolly relic]

Thanks!

[pulsar granite]

||doesn't work||

[fleet spruce]

True, the scale of game is by far way bigger than eternal or 2016

[pulsar granite]

[jolly relic]

||am I the only one who thinks that if the Ahzrak and the witch came together when he had the heart of argent, the Slayer would have died?||

[pulsar granite]

I have no idea ||does this work||

[jolly relic]

There

It worked

[placid rock]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-archvile-gif-19817628

[placid rock]

nah he still could win due to ahzrak underestimating his own powers

[jolly relic]

Yeah...maybe

[placid rock]

also straight up.... no way slayer would even let the witch stop him from kicking ahzraks ass after ||killing his dragon||

if i had a friggen dragon ||and it died|| right in front of me i would totally go berserk

[fleet spruce]

and it's not just any dragon, but a cool cybernetically enhanced dragon

[placid rock]

exactly!!

[pulsar granite]

Improvement opportunity

[placid rock]

||rest in peace Serrat definitely will miss those wings ||

[fleet spruce]

Just rubs the salt into the wound

[pulsar granite]

Just revive him

[smoky reef]

Another ||ritual|| ? 😀

[pulsar granite]

Correct

[smoky reef]

It would be like top 10 plot twist in the gaming industry

[woven jolt]

nah, the slayer was holding back when fighting Ahzrak

[fringe shell]

doom the dark ages dragon

is there a mod for doom the dark ages which improves the dragon combat as there was more bethesda / id could have done with it (i think they cannot improve mech sections as what alse you can do on the mech there is a boss fight at the end which is pretty fun) if there is none right now then tell me once the mod comes out ( please give a mod working on vortex mod manager) if there is any mod maker there reading this please send the link below

[pulsar granite]

Nope there isn't

https://tenor.com/view/doom-revenant-sekeleton-dancing-gif-15451777

[twilit pumice]

I wish the glory kills were better in Eternal.

That glory kill would've been much better with proper gore and less slapstick.
Like shove the blade into the demon's jaw and then proceed pushing the blade up to where you see skin and muscle tear away as the head is being ripped off.

[fringe shell]

can someone make it

[placid rock]

yeah i was very dissapointed in the glory kills in eternal

[placid rock]

there are not even modding tools yet 💀 💀

[pulsar granite]

💀 💀 All the mods rn are just dll files

[twilit pumice]

They feel so light and unimpactful in Eternal. Even the blade sound of whoosing.
Doom 2016 was perfect with the glory kills.

[fringe shell]

but people at nexus already had maken some mods you can check it yourself https://www.nexusmods.com/games/doomthedarkages

[pulsar granite]

These mods are all stuff like console ublockers and slow mo break which use dll files

[placid rock]

thats because they are actual modders who go into the code itself💀

[pulsar granite]

There's no mod maker 💀 they're dll files to change some stuff that can be changed using the console

[placid rock]

stuff like custom content isnt possible yet

[placid rock]

this

[pulsar granite]

💀 💀 💀

[fringe shell]

ok i am giving my request to people at nexus as there are some profeesional modders there

[pulsar granite]

Bro

[placid rock]

the game just came out so modding wont be easy to get modding fully working on there right away

[pulsar granite]

Who's gonna tell him

[fringe shell]

ok i understand now

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/revenant-doom-doom2-jumpscare-gif-22108444

[slim fog]

Where did you get that avatar deco?

[pulsar granite]

It was a discord quest that has expired now

[slim fog]

😭

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-crying-emoji-gif-20670145

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/418478500274765826/1378122791362101399/Copie_decran_20250530_232050.gif

[whole mural]

Sunlust is some bs

Remove all my weapons on level 11 why don’t you

Level 11 is great though

[graceful lion]

there is no such thing as holding back, thats just something people say to dickride characters, he has no need to hold back agianst him, especially if he was overpowering him, stop talking out of your ass

it is clearly to imply that ahzrak was overpowering the slayer, do not try twisting it for a dickriding contest

[whole mural]

The slayer is technically at his weakest in dark ages

[pulsar granite]

Wait you're already on 11? I think I'm on 6 or 7 😭

[whole mural]

Yes.

[graceful lion]

no, he does not get stronger with every demon he kills, that is also just bullshit

[whole mural]

I have taken breaks between levels

[graceful lion]

he is not at his strongest, he is just more experienced, and faster

well, he is always at his strongest is what i meant to say

[whole mural]

The slayer just got his blessing from the divinity machine, he is at his weakest out of the 3 modern games

[graceful lion]

the testaments were written by demons, as a fearmongering campaign against the slayer

[graceful lion]

and?, its not like the blessing grows or anything

[whole mural]

Uh he gets stronger for everything he kills

[graceful lion]

it stays at the same strength, it makes no sense that it would grow

[whole mural]

You might have missed some lore

[graceful lion]

again, the testaments are a fearmongering campaign, dont take shit literally

[graceful lion]

i know what you are referring to, the slayer's testaments, which are written by demons

[whole mural]

Your just making stuff up

[graceful lion]

even m0no the lore guy agrees with this

[graceful lion]

it literally is demon scripture, it is written by demons, and recorded by davoth

[pulsar granite]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/418478500274765826/1378122791362101399/Copie_decran_20250530_232050.gif

[graceful lion]

you're the one making stuff up

[whole mural]

Oh wait there’s no reason to speak to you, you got upset about someone d riding

[pulsar granite]

🍿 🍿 🍿

[whole mural]

Go cry a river to that guy who your having a one sided meltdown too

[graceful lion]

well no, im just trying to disprove false information

[whole mural]

This is a videogames brother

[graceful lion]

yeah im crying so hard rn

[pulsar granite]

Imagine playing doom for the story 💀

[graceful lion]

the slayer does not "hold back", that is just bs

[whole mural]

Exactly

Imagine if sunlust was cannon

[pulsar granite]

I don't boot up doom to watch long ass cutscenes

[graceful lion]

that guy was talking about lore, so i responded, problem?

[pulsar granite]

You didn't boot up doom to read, didn't you? Get back to it. 🔥

[vital rapids]

I've been playing Doom games for >30 years. Who is this "slayer" you guys keep mentioning?

[graceful lion]

if you dont care about the lore, then dont care what people say about the lore, just stay out of it

[pulsar granite]

Lehuerk

[vital rapids]

Is the story the bit where you mash the space bar or press F to not read/listen?

[whole mural]

He does hold back because gameplay is like 1/10000th of his actual strength

[pulsar granite]

Yes

[graceful lion]

source?

[whole mural]

Lore slayer doesn’t hold back

[graceful lion]

give me a source if you are so sure

[whole mural]

Gameplay does for the sake of being gameplay

[vital rapids]

Oh cool I don't do those bits because there's no killing

[whole mural]

If you want boring gameplay of the slayer not holding back go play doom eternal with the berserk cheat

That’s him not holding back

[graceful lion]

give me a source, stop trying to dodge

[whole mural]

Him using guns is literally to cause more pain

[pulsar granite]

Btw did yall know that in tda with berserk you can infinitely use the bfc

[whole mural]

Dreadmace spam:

[vital rapids]

The Slayer doesn't hold back in TDA. FFS you more or less constantly turn demons into clouds of red mist

[graceful lion]

give me a source that the slayer only uses 1/10000 of his power

oh right you dont have one, my bad

[whole mural]

Look at the game over screen

[vital rapids]

Or smoking smears of crisped demon tallow

[graceful lion]

what.

[whole mural]

Lore slayer can’t die, explain the death screen

[pulsar granite]

[vital rapids]

Never seen it. Sounds like a skill issue tbh

[graceful lion]

you have to be fucking joking right

[whole mural]

Facts