the-dark-ages

[vital rapids]

Possibly fricking monitor turned off tbh

[gleaming swallow]

You gotta be the first person to say this

[pulsar granite]

Hell even me playing with the blurry fsr 3 ultra perf I notice a difference

Tda is clearly better looking than eternal

[empty sable]

Am I just desperate for news or do you think Xbox Showcase will actually talk about the Dark Ages DLC? Toon soon, right? lol

[gleaming swallow]

And there's no shame in admitting if you're sponsored

[neon perch]

It could use a rebalance patch. And maybe a classic DM mode.

[vital rapids]

Literally no idea, but I'm right there hoping with you dude

[pulsar granite]

Doom 2016 demons look like actual horror movie monsters while eternal demons look like cheap plastic action figures

[gleaming swallow]

Alt accounts don't count

[neon perch]

You mean the enemy designs Eternal inherited?

[vital rapids]

Are you suggesting dishonest bias while simultaneously suggesting TDA and Eternal look the same?

[pulsar granite]

No, compare the imp who got no redesign, still looks like that

[neon perch]

Looks like what?

[hollow sandal]

There's alot more destructible structures in tda, it's Cool

[neon perch]

It's the exact same design with a couple more spikes to make it look closer to the original one.

[orchid rover]

Can we get a crowbar to pry the idiot ball out of Kiryu's head

[neon perch]

The Pinky is literally unchanged except for the eye color.

The Cacodemon is the same except it looks closer to the OG design.

The HK just has eyes but it's 5x roided out and visibly angrier.

[orchid rover]

The sheer weight and size of the Slayer is highly emphasized in TDA, great showcase of his presence visually

[vital rapids]

I prefer the look of 2016 to Eternal,too. It's practically a cliché at this point

[delicate grotto]

Your assumption that the devs cared more about 2016’s development over Eternal’s is completely based on personal preference over artstyles.

The game’s graphics are objectively better. The artstyle is what you dislike and that’s fine, but that doesn’t mean you discredit an entire team of artists that worked on a project for 4+ years over bias.

[empty sable]

The Pinky is now a mount in Dark Ages instead of a Pudgy terror from Eternal coming straight at you? Wtf? lol

[hollow sandal]

Facts I'd imagine he's like 500 pounds or around that

[neon perch]

People will prefer what they started out with. I didn't start with 2016 and to me most of what it did was either unoriginal, uninspired, ugly and derivative, or all of the above.

[pulsar granite]

I started with 64 dawg

[empty sable]

So I must say it doesn't look the same.

[vital rapids]

Yeah, Eternal is just not my game, but to suggest the devs phoned it in is extremely harsh and imo obviously not true

[gleaming swallow]

Yeah that's a reading or interpretation issue on your end or you're using the word "same" wrong

[neon perch]

64's designs mog anything in 2016.

So do classic Doom's demons.

Gregor Punchatz/Adrian Carmack's designs are so fucking peak.

[vital rapids]

Please feel free to furnish us with the missing nuance, dudette

[neon perch]

Miss me with the carapace shit, I want the demons to have actual muscle and flesh like biblical creatures are supposed to.

Shoutout to the classic Mancubus being a mockery of human and animal physiognomy with the elephant feet and morbidly obese human build.

[vital rapids]

I know what you mean, although I can see the carapace going more alien than biblical on purpose

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-mcgill-saul-goodman-better-call-saul-saul-goodman-better-call-saul-howard-hamlin-saul-goodman-howard-hamlin-gif-12849380446268963997

[empty sable]

The fact that it was said The Pinky looks the same in Eternal/DA. Clearly they have no clue what they are talking. The Pinky is a mount this time around. People lol

[neon perch]

Doom 3's Manc is 2nd best though.

[neon perch]

Who said that?

[orchid rover]

We are in the age of "Doom Eternal, id Software's most underrated title"...

[south haven]

i remember unlocking some slayer skin in the game but i had to reinstall due to the game being broken and now i dont have that skin? weird

[empty sable]

Here. What are you talking about?

[neon perch]

From 2016 to Eternal.

[empty sable]

Alright. Makes more sense, I'm like wtf. The discussion was mostly about Eternal and Dark Ages differences.

[pulsar granite]

Dawg they don't know the meaning of nerd emoji

You don't nerd react to a fucking question

[foggy breach]

Those are literally the best designs in all of Doom except the Hell Knight.

[vital rapids]

Yeah, I guess that wraps it up for the idea they have even tried the game in any meaningful way. Or even watched a YouTube video of it

[delicate grotto]

Probably a milestone skin, might’ve bugged and not saved.

[neon perch]

I'm just going on about 2016 because this one CPU-bound crybaby compared it to TDA using an image that was 90% black and said Eternal's monsters looked worse when they inherited the models/rigs from that game like most tend to do for some reason.

[orchid rover]

kekw

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-nerdy-nerds-nerd-emoji-gif-25380417

[neon perch]

'I liked the way this rock texture looked in 2016, Eternal's looked like a boulder.'

[split gate]

wdym by this dawg

[delicate grotto]

Well anyways, Doom: The Dark Ages has the best demon designs out of the modern Dooms and 64 has the best artstyle out of the classics

[neon perch]

Like the fuck is that supposed to MEAN.

[delicate grotto]

Lmao

[foggy breach]

How about this?
Best design for each demon?

[south haven]

the visuals in TDA look mid af, where is the pixelated charm of the original? also why tf can you look up

[wheat sigil]

how many digits of pi would you need to measure the circumferance of the universe within the width of a proton?

[delicate grotto]

He has no basis to the claim. He just said it and never elaborated with actual points.

[neon perch]

I think he was meant to be baitposting but then he couldn't keep pretending to be entertained and just left.

[split gate]

Yeah, but I actually want to know what he means tho

Because I disagree a lot

[vital rapids]

The boulders in Eternal also look like rocks, which compounds the issue

[south haven]

i think a lot of people here get ragebaited by ragebaiters way too easily, like that kiryu guy was clearly just trying to piss people off. You guys gotta remember its just a video game, ur not supposed to get personally offended if someone has something negative to say about a product

[gleaming swallow]

It's very simple, Eternal looks good enough and runs over 120fps, meanwhile TDA looks better, but not enough to justify the fact that it runs at half the fps of DE.
I could settle for DE level graphics in TDA because game graphics have already gotten so good that that average person won't see that much of a difference in improvement. YOU clearly aren't the average person

[south haven]

AMEN SOMEONE BASED

[vital rapids]

I disagree.
And what you could settle for is for you to decide

[lost basin]

If your really sucked into a game you don't even notice the graphics

[split gate]

I think people just want to discuss tho

[delicate grotto]

I agree, and I’ve fell for it a few times. Though I have an issue when someone discredits artists and developers over their personal opinion.

[south haven]

its crazy to me people claim TDA looks so much better than eternal that its ok it doesnt run on an average rig, like dude, the game running on low settings looks worse than eternal on max settings, while having 30% of the frames

[neon perch]

What you CAN notice is the art direction which is miles ahead of the previous two games.

2016 just had really low contrast and Eternal had none because they wanted everything to pop. It's all by design. There's no 'this game looked worse than the other' because they're going for different approaches.

[south haven]

you dont have to choose, a game can have amazing graphics and amazing gameplay

[vital rapids]

It runs on a 2060s or a 3060. According to Steam survey the average rig has RT support. It's simply not true that it doesn't run on an average rig

[empty sable]

It's the fact that they wanted to push the technology by advancing RT. RT needs upscaling/frame gen and there's just no way around it. Reflections and such are definitely an improvement. Eternal still looks insane, the devs just didn't want to stay idle with the tech.

[gleaming swallow]

Even better when the game is smooth af

[vital rapids]

It doesn't run on a rig that is literally worse than an xbox

[south haven]

TDA should run at good framerates and settings on a rig that could run eternal at max settings 144fps

[delicate grotto]

It does look better, much better, though significantly less on console.
Although, I do agree that these spec requirements for a game were pushed out way too early. Half the reason why PC sales aren’t performing as well.

[vital rapids]

Is that true? Why?

[pulsar granite]

Is 40 fps good

[lost basin]

Well it has a more arcade ish feel and its fast paced so the pop makes sense. And i do like the eternal designs. All 3 new DOOM games are different but thats what makes them all special and thats why most people like one more than the other

[south haven]

because the dark ages does not objectively look that much better than eternal and anyone who claims it does is disingenuous

[pulsar granite]

Why the fuck is 30 fps not considered smooth anymore like cmon

[graceful lion]

the oldest hardware tda can use is from 6 years ago, same with eternal from its time, your point?

[empty sable]

I don't like the fact that RT is forced anymore than the next person. It's just unfortunately where we are at.

[vital rapids]

The premise that new games should run well on hardware that can run old games well begs the question.

There is no reason this should be the case. It's just what you would prefer

[hoary heron]

Use FSR or Xess

[south haven]

a rig that can run eternal at max 144pfs should be able to run TDA at decent enough settings with good fps

[pulsar granite]

I already am and it's at ultra performance 💀

[south haven]

thats forced anti consumer ray tracing for you babyyy

[graceful lion]

its mostly the raytracing part

[vital rapids]

Is that true? Why is it true?

[hoary heron]

System specs?

[delicate grotto]

No, it objectively does when you compare both on max settings… But again, you won’t really notice the graphical upgrade that much while you’re running and gunning. So I see your point.

[pulsar granite]

Ryzen 3600 and rx 590

[south haven]

have you played a video agme

[graceful lion]

the game runs on 90+ fps on an rtx 2060 6gb, its optimized badly lmao

[pulsar granite]

Lower if you use rt emulation 🤓 🤓

[neon perch]

Define 'that much better'. Because the game itself does sport a lot more fog, less vibrant colors and an overall more muted color palette while maintaining a higher AI count than the last two games, bigger levels, and more decals/effects on screen while Eternal deliberately had less of this for the sake of visibility.

[south haven]

i have never played a video agme

[hoary heron]

Ahhh that might be it then, sorry.

[south haven]

as i said, TDA on low, eternal on max.

[empty sable]

Apparently 4% of gamers game on 4K and I'm one of them so I immediately notice the difference. Maybe they are running it at 720p and wondering why it looks so similar lol

[pulsar granite]

Yall acting like 40 fps isn't smooth

[graceful lion]

ok, but is it true for 2016 to eternal?

#the-dark-ages message

[pulsar granite]

On my pc it's 2016 at 150 fps max and 70 fps eternal max so

[vital rapids]

Yes. I remember when literal id software games required a world of PC gamers to buy their first GPUs.
I remember when everyone had to upgrade for Quakes
I remember when everyone had to upgrade for Doom 3
So again, why should new games run well on hardware because it could run previous games well?
There doesn't seem to be a reason to this besides "because that's what I want and I reckon it all looks the same anyway"

[south haven]

i dont know? i dont think thats rly relevant here

[graceful lion]

read this, should drop the bs

[hoary heron]

I was simply apologizing for assuming you had higher system specs. Cool that you can manage to run the game on a 3600 and 580. 👍

[gleaming swallow]

And the end user has to suffer for these artificial ai improvements with worse performance. Great

[graceful lion]

oh noo my 7 year old hardware is too outdated

is it really that much of a stretch to ask for a 6 year old gpu at this point?

[pulsar granite]

Shit I saw a guy run tda on a damn rx 480

[neon perch]

'Artificial AI improvements' they literally did it in order to afford bigger levels built faster + more AI on screen, how many times are we going to hammer the same point home over and over.

[pulsar granite]

Rx 480 is well over 6 years

[graceful lion]

you cant argue with these people man, they ignore what you say and keep saying the same shit

[vital rapids]

Wtf. How would you have survived literally any of the history of id software games with this attitude? Was Eternal your first?

[graceful lion]

which is why im not gonna argue with this SonG person anymore, it is clear they cant read well

this is the third time i said now that tda's minimum gpu was from 6 years ago, and in eternal's time it's minimum gpu was from 4 years ago

[vital rapids]

They've made it obvious they haven't even watched a video of the game with the pinky comment, so you may be right

[gleaming swallow]

What pinky comment

[hoary heron]

All this 3D nonsense, we should all go back to Mode 7 graphics or 2.5d graphics. That's where the real technical achievement lies!

[hard thistle]

Common chibi pfp L

[vital rapids]

The Amiga's parallax scrolling looked the same anyway! 3d graphics is a big conspiracy because nvidia is desperate for me to buy a second hand graphics card for $200

[empty sable]

If people can't run it on PC then they should just get Xbox. It seems to run well on there and is part of the game pass. Do people really expect id Software to sit around and twiddle their thumbs while gpus collect dust? Optimization is important, I agree, but you can't blame them for wanting to move the needle when it comes to game development.

[vital rapids]

Or wait for the Switch 2 version 😂

[hoary heron]

We know who the real culprits are, S3 and Voodoo never died; they're sitting in the shadows pulling the marionet strings directing the puppet video card industry to where they want it to go! The fiends!

[pulsar granite]

You will be able to see each individual pixel

[empty sable]

Powerful stuff apparently since NVIDIA is working with it. Wonder how many bugs that will have lol

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-1-fps-gif-3691076786749255056

How people think tda would run on hardware like mine

[hoary heron]

Hey anyone remember Matrox graphics, I remember reading an article about them in Maximum PC. Remeber the Matrox Parhelia: 3 CRT monitors in a triple monitor setup, that was so cool.

[terse hollow]

This can be said about 80% of games lol... pc optimization is fuckin horrible, no matter what game it is there will always be issues with certain hardware thats unexpected because they never tested it on that piece of hardware. You can optimize something for a xbox and it will or should at least play the same on every Xbox

Still... really miss my pc and being able to game on pc😅

[gleaming swallow]

You're the one who decided to reply to me and make assumptions about what rig I'm using, all just because I'm not meatriding the game

[pulsar granite]

Anyone remember that project amd announced called Radeon firerays? I wonder what happened to that one

[hard thistle]

Yea blame the games and not the dogshit hardware that’s being pumped out

[neon perch]

I would never get an Xbox or use GP. I like actually being able to play my games whenever I want and not depend on a rental service app that decided whether or not it wants to fucking work based on the day of the week.

[hard thistle]

Mfw (my face when) gamepass is on PC too 🤯

[graceful lion]

i mean the hardware is ready for it, the first raytracing demonstration was in fucking 1968, so the hardware is clearly ready

[hard thistle]

Like the 3060 didn’t have 12GB of VRAM and was a big ass die
Nvidia learned their lesson with that one

[neon perch]

With TDA it's a bit easier to justify since it's fuckin $80 on Steam but even then I'd end up paying more in the long run if I wanted to play it again after my subscription ran its course.

[graceful lion]

well, theres a update coming soon

this month i mean, will fix shit, but not add new shit, other than path tracing which is cookl

[pulsar granite]

Please fix the fsr 3 frame gen being broken

[terse hollow]

I mean, not gonna try to convince you that you should use it but I've been on xbox for 4 years now, been using gamepass the entire time and literally havent had it not work. It doesnt just randomly stop working 🤣 unless you're talking about how they can technically remove the game at any time

[empty sable]

Game devs rely too much on upscaling/frame gen even when there isn't RT involved. A lot of people who do complain about optimization are just trying max out graphic settings and that's not at all ideal. There's a reason why people gravitate towards consoles with how expensive gpus can be and just everything that is going on with stock, melting power connectors. I'm just saying if you want to play a game, you have to think about the best way for you.

[vital rapids]

Can't wait for path tracing

To make me immediately turn my settings down

[pulsar granite]

It's not forced

[vital rapids]

Can't be - consoles are a thing

[neon perch]

That and the fact I've had the app not work on PC twice over throughout a single month.

That alone put me off GP altogether. Also my backlog is on Steam already so that's where I'm staying.

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-slayer-poster-dragon-gif-351000602723686655

[terse hollow]

Yeah maybe its the pc gamepass. Pretty much all my buddies play on xbox and gamepass hasn't ever given us any issues, still buying games upright is better anyways 😅

[vital rapids]

Pretty sure they pushed an xbox update to PC for Oblivion by accident tbh. Broke graphics settings

[terse hollow]

Yeah lol the first week it was out... on a fucking Friday

[vital rapids]

That was fun. Reminded me not to rely on gp

[terse hollow]

Pushed it on pc gamepass and xbox, luckily it didn't mess nearly as much on xbox

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/i-just-lost-my-dog-dawg-dog-i-just-lost-i-just-lost-my-dawg-gif-4010280224544077181

[graceful lion]

guys, the minimum hardware tda needs is from 6 years ago, its clearly optimized badly

[terse hollow]

They broke the game with a update on Friday than disappeared for 3 days on the weekend😅

[graceful lion]

raytracing was introduced in 1968, clearly nowadays' hardware is not ready for it

[hard thistle]

Y’all bitchin about having hardware 7+ years old

[vital rapids]

Look. Modern equivalent of GBA run Doom game.

[graceful lion]

oh if the steam deck struggles to run it the nintendo switch wont have it on their storfornt period

[hard thistle]

You wouldn’t have made it 6 seconds in the 90s lmao

[hard thistle]

Tbf switch 2 is more powerful than the steamdeck
newer and better hardware

[empty sable]

Just $90 and you can get yourself a physical copy of Mario Kart World. Seems legit lol

[graceful lion]

was that confirmed tho?

[pallid wing]

Actman's review 🤢

[vital rapids]

Switch 2 is a little bit tastier than the (current) Steam Deck, it's got Phantom Liberty and RT so should be ok

[hard thistle]

Pretty much
Doesn’t mean I’m buying one though

[terse hollow]

Never gamed back then but Im proud to say I was once comfortable playing csgo at 10-15 fps for a good 2 years 😅

[pulsar granite]

Imagine not being able to play rt games

[hard thistle]

Hardware was literally unsupported with games like every 12 months

The improvement cycle was LITERALLY exponential

[vital rapids]

Yeh, T239 variant so 2050 maybe a bit better.

[hoary heron]

turn based games are better nyaaaaa sticks out tongue

[empty sable]

I miss real-time with pause.

[pulsar granite]

Earthbound 🔥

[vital rapids]

Except for now being too numerous

[graceful lion]

2050 mobile only exists, not a 2050 2050

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-warrior-kung-fu-panda-rtx-gif-19233196

[hoary heron]

Oh oh oh, next Doom game... Id teams up with Owlcat and makes a Doom RPG based on the pathfinder system.

[vital rapids]

Pathfinder
Tower of Time / Dark Envoy

[neon perch]

Cosmic Barons are so fucking annoying holy shit.

[pulsar granite]

Isn't the 2050 a laptop gpu

[graceful lion]

thats what i said, a 2050 mobile

[vital rapids]

Oh my goodness imagine Doom RPG but made by Owlcat?!

[pulsar granite]

Mobile sounds like a motherfucking car ngl

[hard thistle]

There’s technically a 2050 desktop but iirc it’s china OEM only

[hoary heron]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-doom-slayer-smiling-gif-10870484241078796030

[pulsar granite]

Doomguy bot is so ass

[hoary heron]

I dunno who that is

I just saw the gif and it looked funny

[pulsar granite]

A cringe memer

[hard thistle]

U right he used to be funny now his stuff is super corny

To me at least

[pulsar granite]

The videos are for toddlers

[hoary heron]

I must apologize, I'm not a connoisseur of memes and meme accessories.

[pulsar granite]

Boys vs girls in the big 25 💔 💔

[vital rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/dsp-project-7-turn-darksydephil-gif-16888998455861255209

[hoary heron]

Who that

[vital rapids]

Epic TDA player off YouTube
(but not really)

[hoary heron]

Oh dark side phil?

[hard thistle]

Men 🦅 vs girls 🤢

[hard thistle]

js say you gay bro

[pulsar granite]

If you hate women you are gay

It's really the truth, you can't excuse that

[hard thistle]

Too true bcs who u gonna marry? 💀

[pulsar granite]

If you hate women then realistically no one

[hoary heron]

https://tenor.com/view/gaming-duke-nukem-meme-gif-17195195

[vital rapids]

I was considering being a YouTube gamer lolcow myself, and never going to work again

[pulsar granite]

Thank you duke

[hard thistle]

Why would I do that when I can just make it everyone else’s problem

[vital rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-suspicious-puppet-gif-2729624127692369191

[hard thistle]

Plus, my wife would be angry

[vital rapids]

All I would have to achieve would be to be really crap at gaming

[hard thistle]

Don’t shower, it works for asmond

[hard thistle]

why would someone hate women

[dense orchid]

Pls censor ||shower||

[hard thistle]

he is literally just Pestilence

What if I am neutral about women but I'm definitely gay?

[vital rapids]

Not as gay as liking women instead of bros

[hoary heron]

Asmonds alternet universe self is called Almondgold

[hard thistle]

Ignorance or they’re gay and angry about it

[empty sable]

Witcher 4 tech showcase tomr, it's about to go down.

[hoary heron]

I just want a Duke Nukem game.

[hard thistle]

If you HATE women you’ve got issues, imagine hating half the human race for no reason smh, idiot

[vital rapids]

They put up with us. That deserves some respect imo

[hoary heron]

Common Hugo Martin, buy the rights to Duke Nukem. I know you want too! Pweeeeaaaase!

[empty sable]

I hate way more than half lol just saying

[graceful lion]

guy who beat himself on stream without knowing

[hard thistle]

I haven't met any gay dudes that hate women... maybe I'm just looking in the wrong place

[graceful lion]

same with if you hate men

[hard thistle]

Pretty sure thats most gay guys tbr

[hard thistle]

Frfr

[hard thistle]

I've met a couple gay guys who were pretty misogynistic.

[hard thistle]

Common man feels the need to interject into everything 🥀 as usual, it ain’t about y’all

[near river]

what can i do i cant play anymore from my savepoint? it just shows ????????? and when i click on it it close the game and i can make a bug report

[vital rapids]

Wait, there's a place you are currently looking for gay dudes who hate women?

[hard thistle]

Why you looking for gay guys that hate women😭

[graceful lion]

wdym bro 💔

[hard thistle]

I'm not actively looking for them
It's just a saying

• talks about genuine challenges women face
•”B-BUT MEN!!!!!”

[placid rock]

o.o walked in at a weird time

[hard thistle]

MY QUOTATION IS BACKWARDS NOOOOO

https://tenor.com/view/vader-noooo-gif-4825231

[vital rapids]

Tbf toppers are everywhere.

[placid rock]

ultimate defeat

[graceful lion]

i was trying to be positive, but ok, dont hate on anyone whether man or woman

[hard thistle]

Minor grammatical error
Obliterate this individual

[hard thistle]

As an ex bisexual i agree

[graceful lion]

so true, minor spelling mistake, opinion rejected

[hard thistle]

Wtf is an ex bisexual

[graceful lion]

someone who was bi but now is straight or gay

[hard thistle]

That’s gay

[placid rock]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dog-murder-gif-14667634912993586963

[vital rapids]

Quite. A general healthy disdain should be quite sufficient

[empty sable]

007 game from Hitman devs is finally getting revealed. Can't wait. Quite the year.

[hard thistle]

I was bi but went back to being straight

Sounds pretty pan bro

Yeah.. 💔

[graceful lion]

speaking of, its men's mental health awareness month, look out for your bros guys (and also pride month ofc)

[hard thistle]

Also my birth month, already had people saying "omg happy pride month" barely even an hour after midnight yesterday

[pulsar granite]

Hard to go back to tda with the blurry ass fsr 3 ultra perf and low settings after playing it at max settings on another pc 💔 💔

[hard thistle]

Get a better pc then

[graceful lion]

"happy gay birthday" ahh

[hoary heron]

https://tenor.com/view/duke-nukem-duke-nukem-dance-dancing-duke-nukem-dancing-duke-duke-gif-12700660878747347026

[hard thistle]

If you’re homeless, just buy a house smfh

[hard thistle]

U right

[empty sable]

Why would you change pcs? lol

[foggy breach]

It is pride month, you know what that means

[pulsar granite]

It wasn't mine 😭

[hard thistle]

Holy cringe

[terse hollow]

Seriously people are so dumb

[hard thistle]

Incessantly angry homophobes that insist they aren’t afraid of rainbows?

[mental grotto]

Fun police over here

[foggy breach]

Commit identity fraud and crimes to get a house

[hoary heron]

it's time for corporations to milk the consumer with rainbow acceptance?

[empty sable]

Time to use some stealth like in Elder Scrolls.

[foggy breach]

Nvm, I think I'm shit at advice

[terse hollow]

Can just move into a house here in America😅 fuckin squatters right and crap. Stupid af

In most cases at least

[hard thistle]

June: omg we love the lgbtqia+!!!
July: back to oppression gay boy, get on the line

[foggy breach]

Will the UAC also engage in this?

[near river]

hiiii what can i do when my save point doesnt work????

[hoary heron]

yes

[mental grotto]

I know you’re half joking but it’s not really that simple

[near river]

i dont want start again

[hard thistle]

Mfw there’s genuinely more empty homes (not including apartments) than homeless people

[empty sable]

Kill demons IRL. Only way.

[mental grotto]

Yes

[winter idol]

you have to forge documents in order to do that

[foggy breach]

Where's the gay UAC icon, I need my favorite fictional corporation to milk it

[north leaf]

i dont think general audiences would be able to take the campiness. theres already a lot of ppl who dont get that doom eternal is meant to be camp and criticise it for it

[hard thistle]

I hate how right you are

[vital rapids]

I'd like a Duke Nukem game, but I'm worried about the strippers being "girlbosses"

[north leaf]

they would have to crank it up to 20000% to make it idiot proof, like blood dragon levels

[hoary heron]

You think Azhrak was down bad for the Slayer, he seems a bit too enamored with him. Even doesn't want him die.

[winter idol]

i think thats the last thing anyone would be worried about lmao

[terse hollow]

Yeah lol😅 was mostly joking. I think in mn you have to live there for 5 years or something before you have squatters rights or whatever

[hard thistle]

I can't really fully agree on the "Doom Eternal was meant to be camp" thing, because it is definitely intentionally campy in a couple areas but Eternal is never trying to make itself like how Duke Nukem was.

Mfw I think girlbossing is some 9th wave feminism (or whatever the scare tactic this week is)

I actually have very strong opinions on Duke Nukem and how it could've been brought back for a modern age, and it irritates me they never got the chance.

[mental grotto]

Squatters rights are def BS and highly outdated though lol

[north leaf]

how can you not see the red doomguy whos like shadow the hedgehog and not laugh your ass off

[empty sable]

Ahzrak knows Doomguy can't die and he is still a demon so he fears him just like all the rest. Probably more since it seems he studied a lot about how everything works.

[vital rapids]

Sad that things didn't pan out very well out with Forever

[terse hollow]

Yeah thats why it was a joke. I think most people know now that now at least so I wasn't to worried about anyone taking it seriously😂

Not a very good one

[hard thistle]

I don't really see why I should.

[mental grotto]

Duke Wokem the prostitutes are slaying too hard I’m not buying this freaking bull shit

[vital rapids]

Gay strippers. Problem solved

[hard thistle]

I laugh at some Eternal things but mainly when it's trying to be funny. With stuff like Davoth I just, you know, engage with the story.

[pulsar granite]

I want another game in the doom 3 universe where we play as sergeant kelly

[north leaf]

also the whole mancave aspect with doomguy being depicted as a 35yo+ gamerdad who has a battle station on which he plays FPS games and collects demon food recipes

[hard thistle]

That's the part that is intentionally being funny, yeah.

[mental grotto]

My favorite part of the man cave is probably the giant boulder being used as a punching bag as indicated by the fist-sized dents in the thing

[north leaf]

the ending part is also intentionally silly imo

[vital rapids]

Doom 3 is canon that is all

[hard thistle]

But Eternal still overall is depicting a genuine story, with a genuine universe behind it. Duke Nukem 3D flagrantly was satirizing action movies, and was more concerned with that than giving you an in-depth narrative.

[pulsar granite]

True, but many nerds here say it's not

Despite betruger being mentioned in 2016 and the soul cube appearing in that game

[mental grotto]

Dont say that with mono here lul

[barren shell]

guys why is ahzrak final form naked

[empty sable]

Reboots exist for a reason. Work on a stronger narrative.

[pulsar granite]

He's gay

[barren shell]

for who

[mental grotto]

To distract me in the fight after it’s all over my screen

[hard thistle]

Well I don't really think that's the answer for Duke Nukem 3D.

[pulsar granite]

Novik

[vital rapids]

Honestly I would take it Saints Row 4

[primal cypress]

my game freeze mid play

[vital rapids]

Just go absolutely bonkers, but do it well

[hard thistle]

Heating problem

Chill

Reviving Duke Nukem means focusing more on the satire and being actually smart about it. Not doing what Forever did and opening it with two girls blowing Duke because "haha get it, it's Duke Nukem so women are sex objects here. Isn't it just like the 90s!?"

Duke Nukem would be a really fun character in a modern satire on action films where Duke is living in a world that directly contrasts him. He's a relic of a bygone era but is completely ignorant of this.

[empty sable]

Stick it in the freezer.

[pulsar granite]

FUCK

[mental grotto]

It already frozen dumb ass. Put in oven 👍

[vital rapids]

Also, ZERO self-awareness would work well. People love that sort of thing apparently

[pulsar granite]

Wait if doom 3 is canon does that mean that the rock and walter white are in doom?

[primal cypress]

i have my monitor hardware open while playing its at 50+% cpu core temperature

[hard thistle]

Yes, but keep in mind Duke's rhetoric is just outdated, not malicious. He calls women "babes" but he doesn't hate women, he's just full of himself and thinks any woman would obviously want to fuck him.
It's riding the line between a character being lovably politically incorrect VS coming off as hateful or gross. OG Duke was charming. Forever Duke was a freak.

What the hell convo did i return to

[vital rapids]

That. Is very well put

[north leaf]

making 3 games where you fight unnamed demon leaders would be boring. they made the whole war between hell and heaven (maykrs) as context in the background that you dont have to care one bit about. the overall tone of the story is much just "doomguy is so cool!" and all the elaborate machinations and lore dont amount to much beyond how carmack described stories in games. they are there to get you invested in the level design and enemy designs and you can ignore most of it and not miss anything. the total amount of dialogue is also so brief that i refuse to believe there is a genuine attempt at creating any sort of gripping narrative

[pulsar granite]

Bro the game crashed 💀 first time tda crashes

[hard thistle]

What I am reminded of is the one Duke comic where he goes back in time and fights in WW2. He comforts a dying black soldier by telling him about Martin Luther King in the future, then confronts Hitler who is so scared he immediately kills himself.
You subvert Duke's character like this. You're having Duke run around being a complete meathead who objectifies women and has an IQ of like 20 only to subvert this with surprisingly coherent, thoughtful moments you didn't expect - only for Duke to go right back to calling women "babes" and being a jackass. You subvert expectations with comedy and contrast.

Wtf is 50%+ temperature

[vital rapids]

It's a realtime tunable id software use if someone references the film with the rock in it. Should last about 20 minutes

[hard thistle]

50% of what? 100C? The nucleus of a neutron star??

[pulsar granite]

The rock was in the game too

[primal cypress]

cpu core temp 50+ degree

[placid rock]

he was?

[hard thistle]

Is duke nukem not just Johnny Bravo rated R

[primal cypress]

so i need help here, just started playing this

[empty sable]

I really wish that Dark Ages would implement some kind of Nemesis system where demon leaders have special titles with strengths/weaknesses and you would hunt them down to collect their bounties.

[pulsar granite]

Walter white was also in the game, and thus breaking bad and doom are in the same universe. Take that nerds!

[mental grotto]

You’d have better luck in #tech-talk or reddit

[hard thistle]

WALTUH

[primal cypress]

cpu core temprature 50 degree C while playing its not that high

[hard thistle]

If there's someone who also looks like Johnny Brave it's Albert Wesker from RE5. Common meme

[primal cypress]

cause all here is useless?

[vital rapids]

Breaking Bad may be in the same universe as the Sopranos. Which is badass

[pulsar granite]

https://imgur.com/a/BkSCRPM

[hard thistle]

It’s too many topics going on at once
Your questions will get buried

[mental grotto]

People here are talking about the game. People in tech #tech-talk will be more willing to help you with problems. And you aren’t giving us a whole lot of info tbf

[primal cypress]

its not that fast

i am talking about the game, why else im here

[hard thistle]

Ok well people here want to talk about doom, not your tech issues
That’s what #tech-talk is for

[primal cypress]

i am talking about doom

[mental grotto]

My patience is at 50%+ temperature

[pulsar granite]

Game crashed mid glory kill ts pmo

[hard thistle]

Well I'm sorry but you are objectively incorrect on that last statement. You can not care about the narrative all you want but they explicitly wrote these games with a deliberate focus on crafting a universe and plotline for it. They refer to the whole thing with the Slayer as a "saga," they marketed Eternal as "creating a Doom universe." Eternal has a shit-ton of its story details written out in Codex entries that combined practically have the word count of a novella. They marketed TDA as a "cinematic Hollywood blockbuster" where they "take the story out of the Codex and into the cutscenes."

[mental grotto]

Dude a week or so ago I was fighting azzcrack and he wacked me with his glaive so hard my game crashed and my save got corrupted 💀

[primal cypress]

log off

[hard thistle]

"Doctor Carmack's condition is irreversible. Because Doctor Carmack's condition... fires gun is that he's DEAD."

You don't have to like or care about the story. But there objectively is one and they objectively focused on it being an innate element of the new Doom games.
Carmack's statement is outdated and even he said so. It was painted by tech in the 90s not allowing for in-depth narratives in PC games without compromising gameplay. He publicly recanted this statement years later on Twitter because he knew games like Half-Life had proven him wrong.

[hard thistle]

Holy shit

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-13148928981517710530

[mental grotto]

Just trying to help brother

[vital rapids]

You can 100% enjoy without caring much about the story, with that said. That's true, and was always part of Doom

[placid rock]

anything related to technology issues goes to #tech-talk

[hard thistle]

Objectively correct

[primal cypress]

no one replying at tech talk

[pulsar granite]

Well technically it is canon that breaking bad and doom are the same universe since the first happens before doom 1993. TAKE THAT NERDS

[hard thistle]

I wonder how much conflict could be avoided if people had the ego control to just fuckin say “my bad”

[mental grotto]

It has been approximately one (1) minute

[empty sable]

If Doomguy just killed Heisenberg, it would have saved everybody a whole lot of trouble.

[hard thistle]

Yeah I'm not arguing you can't ignore the story and narrative. You totally can. But objectively this means ignoring a core component of the modern Doom games and what went into their vision. Just own up to it and say you don't give a shit about that part of them instead of making up shit about the developers agreeing with you and not caring either.

[pulsar granite]

He wasn't born

And then the fact that walter white appears in doom 3 kinda confirms that he faked his death

[hard thistle]

This is half of the lore haters icl

[graceful lion]

oh bro half life 2 COOKED, shit was good in all the ways, and people are still trying to make it better (graphically or otherwise) to this day

21 years later, and people are still trying to make it better

thats how you know people care about the game's longevity

[mental grotto]

John Romero once said “the story in a doom game is like the story in a p*rno. It’s expected to be there but it’s not really all that important” we’ve definitely shifted since then lol (not a bad thing)

[graceful lion]

it is absolutely important, tda felt alot more impactful once i knew what the story was

[hard thistle]

That was Carmack, actually. I think Romero had quite different opinions to him, though he was more on Carmack's side than he was Tom Hall's lmao.

[empty sable]

skips cutscenes constantly "this story sucks!" 🤣

[graceful lion]

but didnt tom hall get fired

[mental grotto]

Fucking tom hall 😭

[hard thistle]

Yes, he did.

[pulsar granite]

Everyone knows that skyler's hj was so bad walter got cancer

[mental grotto]

This was also said in 1993

[hard thistle]

And yeah Carmack admitted this statement was BS. Because he understood tech goes on. There are games where the narrative is an immense part of why the game even got any attention. The Last of Us is an example of a game with relatively unremarkable gameplay that skyrocketed in popularity 100% because of its story and characters.

Nobody would've given a single shit about TLOU if the characters and story weren't as good as they were.

[graceful lion]

and then tda took the characters, made them into an amazing soup, literally the flavor of tda's buffet

[vital rapids]

I don't think it's dishonest to consider Doom a game you can play without getting into the lore to be honest
What Carmack said then holds true now for the series
I've been playing Doom games for 30 years and never bothered with the story beyond Doom 3 until recently I was curious. There are other things where I'm into the lore, but it is not needed for Doom

[hard thistle]

Fr?

[graceful lion]

bro i thought she was a solitary hag at birth 😭

[mental grotto]

Yeah I mean it was the case in 1993 because they were so limited with what they could do with the narrative. Text screens and art at the end of each chapter conveying wtf was going on

[hard thistle]

My argument is not that you can't play without getting into the story. My argument is that you 100% can, but in regard to the modern games you are ignoring a fundamental element of the experience that the devs intended, and that I'd respect just admitting that and not caring more than pretending the developers just so happen to not care about the exact things you don't care about.

[vital rapids]

I don't think it requires making anything up. It is what it is

[graceful lion]

doomguy shouldve rizzed her up in french to get the argent tube thingy

[vital rapids]

I don't think the developers don't care. That's putting words in our mouths tbh.
I think Doom can be played end to end without the story, and it has been made that way

[hard thistle]

"Unf unf, unf unf unf(in French)"

[empty sable]

Since I love RPGs these last few games really pull me in. As you said though, easy for anyone to just skip it and go rip and tear. I think that they've done a great job fleshing out the universe.

[hard thistle]

Doom can be played without the lore, sure, maybe.
Played without the story, that's a different thing. If that were the case they wouldn't have put cutscenes in there. (And made them unskippable in 2016.)

[vital rapids]

I absolutely love story rich games, especially RPGs
I have never sought that from Doom tbh, but this game has made me curious about the background fluff. It's quite cool

[hard thistle]

Playing TDA without its story would be insane considering how many cutscenes there are and how long a couple of them are.

[graceful lion]

and to how much they fucking add

[hard thistle]

Half of the reason why Enhanced Ahzrak is such a great boss fight comes from the Phase 3 cutscene. Can't imagine skipping that.

Hear me out on Ahzrak tho

[empty sable]

Well, if you sum it up and just have it where Doomguy hates demons, but loves killing them. Game makes sense lol

[hard thistle]

😩

[vital rapids]

It's just a matter of what you want from the experience, tbh
If lore is very important to someone, that's fine.
If someone doesn't care and mashes the space bar there is not something wrong with that. This is an FPS series that functions with the story as fun scene setting, and it gives you as much lore as you want
I feel it's a little judgmental tbh

[hard thistle]

Until you get to shit like what the fuck is a Heart of Argent? A Wraith? Who's this Ahzrak guy anyway? I don't get who this Witch person is....... hmmm....

[half spindle]

Nah, he does. Just look at this face

[hard thistle]

Joker, red hood, punisher

[hard thistle]

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with not caring about the story. My issue is, again, with coping and saying the developers also didn't care about the story just because a player doesn't, like that person said. My issue is with denying reality, not with how one personally enjoys playing their own videogames.

Mono is so based

I wanna be like mono when i grow up

[vital rapids]

Also, as someone who has recently started being interested in the lore for a series I've been with for decades that was really just an action-oriented FPS with a setting, the judgmental stuff is a bit off-putting if I'm honest
It's not a massive deal, but it's not a great welcoming vibe

[half spindle]

Killing true evil like demons must feel immensely good. Since you know you are making the world you live in a better place.

[empty sable]

Doomguy won't ask those kinds of questions though. From his perspective he just rips and tears. It's one reason why everybody is terrified of him lol If you start asking those questions then you probably wouldn't want to skip it.

[half spindle]

[hard thistle]

Dork, I'm not judging you. None of the stuff I was saying was in response to you, it was to the other guy.

[half spindle]

That sums it up.

[vital rapids]

Cool. Hope I didn't sound too butthurt

[hard thistle]

It isn't any of my business how you enjoy the series, and it's not my place to judge that. My argument was against the other person saying the game objectively did not care about its narrative, which is a separate thing from if the player cares about it or not.

[vital rapids]

So anyway, I am likely to pester you with questions tbh. As the backstory stuff has become MUCH more relevant with TDA

[hard thistle]

That's fine.

[half spindle]

Doom slayer had been like a Sysiphus. Doing what he can for an eternity because the only thing he can do is to continue killing demons, so in conclusion he must inherently like it.

[vital rapids]

Mashing the space bar ain't gonna explain this game 😂

[pulsar granite]

Btw chat samsung's 20gb/s 16gb vram modules are on aliexpress for 8 usd

[half spindle]

He for sure has some kind of trauma really deep within.

[mental grotto]

Hope I’m not “the other guy” lol, bringing up that old quote from early id wasn’t at all meant to be some groundbreaking point saying “the devs actually don’t care about the story,” I just thought it was worth bringing up considering how story-heavy TDA is. It’s interesting how far the games have come

[vital rapids]

I feel like it's not that deep within
Ripping demons in half is definitely a fulsome outlet

[empty sable]

Which he trauma dumps on demons.

[hard thistle]

No, the other guy isn't in the conversation anymore.

[hard thistle]

Just…straight vram?

[vital rapids]

Exactly. For me TDA is the first game since Doom 3 where I feel there's all this stuff worth digging into. It's done a good job of selling its setting imo

[hard thistle]

I don't think there is anything wrong with bringing up Carmack's quote, he did indeed say it and it was 100% true in regards to Doom back then. What I don't like is people acting like it's some kind of holy scripture Doom should keep referring to in the 2020s.

[half spindle]

In doom eternal in his room we can find a little damaged photo with his family. So maybe, little rabbit was not the only thing he had lost.

[mental grotto]

Download free RAM and RAM.com ahh

[half spindle]

Taggart is doom slayer.

[mental grotto]

Lmao yeah no. All the old guys who worked at Id in the early days, as legendary as they were, are fucking boomers and I don’t really agree with most of their takes on modern doom

[hard thistle]

I'm not even sure what any of them think about modern Doom. I wonder what Carmack would have to say about them.
I imagine he'd be proud of how well-optimized they are at least.

[vital rapids]

I'm a Doom boomer tbh. To me the new story is cool, but it is something bolted quite recently onto something I have known for 3 decades.
Change is life, of course. Have recently been absorbing lore a bit

[half spindle]

Isnt Taggart a canonical doom marine name from the doom bible?

[hard thistle]

No, it's from the novels.

[half spindle]

So not canon?

[vital rapids]

I have a completely groundless belief they would all enjoy TDA

[hard thistle]

Not canon. But neither is the Doom Bible.

There is no proper Doomguy name from the Doom Bible - the Doom Bible instead had several playable characters, and their names would later be reused for the protagonists of Rise of the Triad, which Tom Hall worked on.

[half spindle]

Im still inclined to believe that its doom slayers family photo. Makes his anger even more justified.

His immense hate.

[pulsar granite]

Didn't hugo say in a stream it is his family?

[vital rapids]

Yeah, this builds on the bunny a bit. Although still feeling the John Wick vibe secretly 😂

[hard thistle]

The photo's existence blatantly implies he had a family that he lost, whether Hugo says so or not.

[pulsar granite]

Gonna replay doom 3

[pulsar granite]

Denying something the main game director said is crazy 💀

[vital rapids]

Yeah but. Stable door

[half spindle]

And maybe he always thinks only about his bunny because his mind is still in a lot of pain from family loss and he tries to cope with reality.

[vital rapids]

Trauma displacement

[half spindle]

Something like that. Less pain, still hurts.

[vital rapids]

I will think about my bunny because I cannot think about the rest of my family

[hollow sandal]

Pain hurts

[vital rapids]

I disagree

[half spindle]

Masochistic behaviour.

[vital rapids]

A little contrarian lunacy never did anyone any harm

[half spindle]

[hollow sandal]

Well said

[pulsar granite]

Why the fuck does doom 3 have aliasing off bu default

[mental grotto]

OH im a huge classic doom fan dont get me wrong, i probably have as many hours logged on doom 1/2 (community megawads ofc) as i do on modern doom

[pulsar granite]

And why the fuck does it look the exact same as without aliasing

[hard thistle]

I'm not denying what he said. I'm saying the game itself heavily implies the photo is Doomguy's, and you don't need Hugo saying this to come to that conclusion.

[lean rapids]

can the prices for the stupid tda steam trading cards finally go down bruh 💔

[pulsar granite]

I thought you were saying the opposite but ty

I am cranking up the doom 3 settings at the absolute maximum fuck you

[vital rapids]

Interesting. Or sister's family

[pulsar granite]

Hugo specifically said his wife and kid

[hard thistle]

In general I am a firm believer that Hugo's statements aren't any more or less valuable than a fan's, and that what matters is what's in the game or game-related content.

[vital rapids]

Disliked his brother in law

[pulsar granite]

Bruh no image

[vital rapids]

Perhaps his dad was an overbearing satanist

[pulsar granite]

Isn't his dad commander keen (according to tom hall but let's pretend its canon for a moment)

[vital rapids]

This definitely fits my last comment

[pulsar granite]

Why are we talking about flynn white

[vital rapids]

Hey don't judge my parenting style man

[hard thistle]

And then the marines told him to shoot civilians

[pulsar granite]

https://imgur.com/a/PPoUqJz booty

[neon perch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO_18KqvAVM

[pulsar granite]

https://imgur.com/a/GE86Iqw i told y'all the rock is in doom 3

[vital rapids]

Well I'm sold. He has the receipts

[pulsar granite]

I want a game where we play as him

[neon perch]

Here's how The Rock would look if he was caucasian and on Mars.

[pulsar granite]

Shit there are puddle reflections in motherfucking doom 3 I am shaking rn

AND REFLECTIONS ON THE GUNS

[obtuse oyster]

on my 3rd playthrough the dragon and mech are starting to get a lil tedious

increasing the speed to 120% and minimizing the parry window helped out with that but still

[hard thistle]

Because they are tedious

[pulsar granite]

Don't play at 150 skill issue

[obtuse oyster]

noo bro they were cool.. the first 5 minutes

[graceful lion]

but hugo said so and his word is law!!1

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/howard-hamlin-better-call-saul-howar-hamlini-howardsus-gif-25568404

[obtuse oyster]

the elitists are back, I got everything in Eternal on UN bitch fight me

[hard thistle]

Hugo Balls

[pulsar granite]

Hamlindigo blue

[graceful lion]

i feel like id be fine playing 150% on HMP

[obtuse oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-you-have-alerted-the-horse-you-have-alerted-the-howard-hamlin-gif-26058425

[pulsar granite]

I always play on 150 nightmare

[umbral steppe]

Did y’all know when the 2nd patch will be available ?

[hard thistle]

No

[pulsar granite]

I love eating pork

[umbral steppe]

K thank you

[vital rapids]

Monitor switched off?

[obtuse oyster]

haram!!!!!

[pulsar granite]

Why

[vital rapids]

Otherwise too easy

[pulsar granite]

Ah shit I have been mocked

[vital rapids]

Nah, not mocked. When I finish my UN run in 2036 then I may adopt a slightly snooty air

[pulsar granite]

Anyways, here is how to play all the doom games in chronological order:

• doom 1993
• doom 2
• final doom
• doom 64
• doom tda
• doom 3
• doom 2016
• doom eternal

I just fell out of bounds after glory killing a komodo champion wtf

Doomguy noclipped through the ground

[obtuse oyster]

the backrooms

[urban sentinel]

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[obtuse oyster]

yuh a lil

bro everything is the shield in the game you cant freestyle without the shield which means you cant freestyle

[urban sentinel]

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[obtuse oyster]

it's more of a combo game now, eternal was too but there was much more freedom in it with the quickswitching

[hard thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/clickbait-click-bait-nemo-gif-22749450

[obtuse oyster]

I don't mind the lack of glory kills after 666 hours on eternal I've started skipping as many GKs as possible

[crude bridge]

Clickbait? Seriously? That's not clickbait. A lot of players, myself included, feel incredibly disappointed btw TDA.

[brave leaf]

Do yall think the dlc is gonna be worth 30+ $
When you already paid 70 for the base game

[obtuse oyster]

Eternal: It's not 2016
TDA: It's not Eternal
can't win shit as a game dev

[urban sentinel]

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[brave leaf]

Oh it already costs 34
I mean do you think it'll be worth it 😭

[hard thistle]

The video title and thumbnail reeks of clickbait, yeah.

[delicate grotto]

It disappointed me at first, until like, Siege Part 1. A shame he feels it’s the weakest entry though. I’d put it above 2016, and probably Eternal, although I’ve played Eternal to the point of exhaustion so that probably has a hand to play in it.

[calm hare]

TDA digital artbook is an app, inside it you could see the arts. These arts are packed into big archives in TDA DA steam folder. Is it possible to extract all images from these archives as just jpg files on my hdd?

[delicate grotto]

Dammed if you do dammed if you don’t.

[hard thistle]

I think TDA clowns the fuck out of 2016 and is a very close second to Eternal.

[urban sentinel]

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[hard thistle]

This does not change my point.

[crude bridge]

You do know thats not the source of the disappointment.

[obtuse oyster]

well Eternal DLC have 3 missions each, main campaign has 3, 3/13 is 23%, TDA has 22 missions which means 23% of that is 5 missions I'm not saying that that's how they calculate it but I hope we get like 6 missions or smn

[delicate grotto]

He praises the game throughout the video. The title implies the game isn’t good.

[obtuse oyster]

yeah but it's funny

[urban sentinel]

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[rare juniper]

hey i think is stupid ask this, but, someone here hgave the doom dark ages?

[obtuse oyster]

I agree with the first but I don't think it's close to Eternal as a matter of fact I don't think it's even fair to compare the two

[crude bridge]

Yes. That's consistent. A disappointment isn't necessarily bad. It just failed to meet eexpectations...and TDA had a lot of expectations.

[hard thistle]

No, none of us like Doom.

[rare juniper]

jiji

[hard thistle]

Also yeah lmao releasing a video going "HEY THIS GAME IS SO DISAPPOINTING HOLY SHIT" and then in the video saying it's a really good game is pretty misleading even if you can talk around it.

[obtuse oyster]

Nah bro fuck those games we hate em

[delicate grotto]

True, but by the title and thumbnail alone I’d think this game is lukewarm at best.

[real lynx]

Act man is slop

[urban sentinel]

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[crude bridge]

Not wrong.

[obtuse oyster]

the bills need to be paid

[brave leaf]

Nah nobody here in #the-dark-ages owns dark ages

[obtuse oyster]

rent is due

[hard thistle]

I do not watch clickbait. I've heard enough about the video from people who did watch it to parrot the opinions of someone they don't actually know.

[rare juniper]

so, someone want a code for a the doomslayer verdant skin?

[brave leaf]

Maybe try #doom-eternal they might have it idk

[hard thistle]

Holy fucking shit are we STILL on act man
It has been 24 fucking hours

[brave leaf]

Yes 😭

[obtuse oyster]

yeah one sec

[obtuse oyster]

7bwxy2LeXwQlmfwCIhAmoGuyA13alael6sKZMqxrvI85FpLCrW'

[brave leaf]

I really hate how they did skins in this game
Like 90% of em are 3rd party

[urban sentinel]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[pallid wing]

I don't get the criticism that a thing is not actually another thing.
Glory kills are replaced with combo kills.
People have said this is bad. With ZERO explanation.

[delicate grotto]

Makes me sad to see all the disappointment and negativity surrounding TDA online. I have seen few videos who put this game over either of the last two, and it seems to be influencing the general consensus that this game isn’t good.

[obtuse oyster]

I need to download nVidia app slop for a skin?????? 😭 😭 I ain't doin that bruh

[hard thistle]

But for the record I cannot name a single thing TDA doesn't do better than 2016 did.

[brave leaf]

Like if you want all the skins you have to
Get a broken twitch drop
Buy pizza
Buy a GPU

[rare juniper]

yah

[urban sentinel]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[hexed laurel]

Anyone on linux here

[obtuse oyster]

give me the code bro I aint downloading nvidia bloatware

[errant pagoda]

subscribe to an energy drink

[delicate grotto]

People argue that generic punches and kicks are less interesting and more repetitive than glory kills, which may be true, but they are certainly more fluid.
I don’t understand why people can’t grasp the concept of that.

[hard thistle]

This is not the general consensus. It has received good reviews across the board. You're just getting a skewed sample of opinions because as a Doom fan you are more likely to see and interact with negative Doom fans.

[rare juniper]

HAHAHA okok md man

[hard thistle]

Who asked for you to post a YouTube video in the chat? It's a channel for the game I'm talking about. You look silly.

[delicate grotto]

That’s true, and valid. Can’t argue there

[brave leaf]

Worst part is they're all just recolors too

[hard thistle]

People that bitch are inherently louder than content people

[delicate grotto]

Just seems to have less of an impact than Eternal, but Eternal also had Covid to back it.

[obtuse oyster]

the strat for me is to have my own opinions and acknowledge but not take other peoples' opinions to heart, it improved my enjoyment of the game and life in general for that matter

[hard thistle]

Like you go to any review set and the reviews for TDA will be positive. Positive reviews make up the majority.

[delicate grotto]

Oh and the animal crossing shit lmao

[obtuse oyster]

doom has no multiplayer, no point in making actually pog skins, can't utilize FOMO and strats like those for a SP game

[hard thistle]

2016 and Eternal also had unique circumstances that made them hit especially harder than they normally would have, and those same circumstances have not presented themselves for TDA. Regardless of quality TDA has not had the same impact 2016 and Eternal did. It's just not TDA's fault.

[urban sentinel]

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[obtuse oyster]

idk why people care about reviews tbf, reviews should be targeted towards the devs and ofc ppl that are wondering if they should buy the game, nowadays reviews turned into those opinions that aim to be objective despite the fact that this is counter-intuitive, a different person will like a different type of game

[hard thistle]

"Comparing two Doom games is wild bro.... I can't imagine comparing one Doom game to another Doom game......"

[obtuse oyster]

Comparing Eternal to TDA is even wilder, that's comparing a ballerina to a tank literally bro

[urban sentinel]

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[obtuse oyster]

guys you can jump it's not grounded combat

we're so back!

[errant pagoda]

it's not grounded, it's based :P

[hard thistle]

It actually does bug me a bit how little he can jump ngl

[hard thistle]

This is what your brain is on when you outsource your opinions to YouTubers instead of grow your own organically. Stay safe, kids.

[obtuse oyster]

The gameplay of the modern dooms is definitely different though they can be compared in the form of their fun zones and engagement and also complexity but not their entire gameplay design philosophy

[molten spear]

I finally got my twitch code for the skin

[delicate grotto]

That’s true, I just meant the online environment. Though the internet feeds off of negativity, so it only makes sense to see more of that there.
It’s when people base their opinions off of someone else’s. A big channel will post a negative review on the game and others will agree with it without playing the game themselves, or even watching the video, lol.
It doesn’t matter much, but it has influenced this game’s overall reception.

That’s what bothers me is all.
Same thing happened with Eternal.

Not so much 2016, though it had its fair share of shit thrown at it following Eternal’s release.

[obtuse oyster]

this is why I stopped caring deadass 😭

[delicate grotto]

Yeah, it’s exhausting and a waste of energy honestly

[obtuse oyster]

internet nowadays is a ragebait slop factory can't have an actual good time online anywhere I just sit in my corner drawin and playin vibeo gane

[hard thistle]

Yeah that's why it is important to just be confident in your own opinions and not engage with the cycle of ragebait.

[pulsar granite]

Will installing the no slow mo mod make my game look less laggy

[obtuse oyster]

the strat is to stop caring https://youtu.be/rnFQd-8ULgM

[obtuse oyster]

cant they add it as a setting 🙏 im on my knees

[pulsar granite]

True

[graceful lion]

if you dont give a shit, life wont make you suffer any little bit

[hard thistle]

I confidently and firmly feel that TDA is an incredible game. I think as much as I love 2016, TDA is better-balanced, better-looking, and better-playing, with a much better story and an overall more cohesive and varied experience.
Eternal gets an edge over TDA because I love its gameplay and art style the most. But TDA could end up being my favorite if the DLC is substantial and well-made.

[graceful lion]

hugo said something about it, maybe in this month's update

[obtuse oyster]

I don't like "maybes" from devs

[pulsar granite]

Also I am playing at doom tda rn and look at the game activity. Stupid ahh discord

[graceful lion]

with how well made the game itself is im confident the dlc will also slap

[graceful lion]

i mean, literally every person who played the game (majority atleast) is asking for it, so probably will happen

[obtuse oyster]

idTech launch notice for 30 minutes 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[graceful lion]

just like people shat on denuvo in eternal, it got removed

[errant pagoda]

"Launch the Slayer" :P

[hard thistle]

Hopefully just one great, substantial DLC campaign and not two smaller ones. I've always wished TAG were just one campaign.

[delicate grotto]

Same

[graceful lion]

yeah i wouldve been aboslutely fine with if they delayed tag 1 and 2 a bit and just made one dlc called The Ancient Gods or some shit

[zealous grotto]

What's tag

[graceful lion]

and it does more than just adding reskinned enemies or 2016 enemies with a new coat of paint and saying "hey guys this is new"

[pulsar granite]

I saw a guy streaming it and it say gpu driver error 💀

[graceful lion]

the ancient gods

[zealous grotto]

Oh ok

[errant pagoda]

At least it probably won't have dragon levels. I mean Serrat as a pet was good, the flying itself felt good too, but the combat was eh.

[zealous grotto]

What's tda

[delicate grotto]

I wonder

[zealous grotto]

The dark ages?

[vital rapids]

Some game, who knows 😉

[delicate grotto]

Yes lol

[errant pagoda]

The Doom Anytime, Eternal's sequel :P

[zealous grotto]

Ohhh

[half spindle]

Im going to murder you in your sleep.

[hard thistle]

I would've been fine with it releasing in parts but I personally wish they'd just added TAG2 as an extension of the campaign. Own both and it's just TAG, when you beat Holt the next level is World Spear.

[urban sentinel]

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[delicate grotto]

A shame too because it had so much potential to be great. Flying around and chasing ships is a lot of fun. Wish there was more of a focus on actually fighting enemies in the air, or laying waste to Hell’s armies instead of shooting stationary targets.
Although I understand this is out of scope.

[pallid wing]

All the negative reviews are people being mad that there isn't a glory kill or parry is bad

Hardly any actual criticism of game besides, it's different

The objective of the game is kinda inscrutable I guess

[vital rapids]

There are lots of "gamers" around who hate computer games, game developers, the games industry, games hardware, games hardware manufacturers and it's like... what's left dude? At what point are you not a gamer, then? 😂

[delicate grotto]

This reminds me of another Doom game
“No ammo”
“Marauder sucks”
“Too cartoony”

[urban sentinel]

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[hard thistle]

Istfg none of the actual complaints are of real issues like timing bugs and audio mixing
It’s all “this isn’t eternal”

[zealous grotto]

Ong bro

[errant pagoda]

Yeah, would have been interesting to have dogfights, but programming ai for that is indeed hard.
At least the fighters you chase down could have dropped aerial mines, so you would have to dodge those, making the chases a bit more exciting.

[vital rapids]

You are using sprint jump to get glory kills, yes?

[graceful lion]

i wouldve loved that, something like what hl2 did i guess with their 20th anniversary?

[gleaming swallow]

Whenever talking about how a game looks, I wouldn't go around using the word "objectively"

[urban sentinel]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[vital rapids]

Fair enough

[delicate grotto]

I agree. That would’ve been a great little surprise to add to the combat.

[gleaming swallow]

Fucking Internet

[real lynx]

From a graphical fidelity perspective it is objectively "better". Art style is subjective though

[zealous grotto]

I'm playing tda on my gaming laptop with almost max graphics with dlaa my laptop wants to take off

[gleaming swallow]

Forgot I had wifi off

[pallid wing]

I think parry works well with wide open combat, to direct the player.
I don't care for slowmo and wish weapon classes could be changed more easily.
Final bosses are kinda lame. But the depth of character loadout and open ended level design makes for the most replayble doom to date.
Level design & monster design is peak in TDA. I wouldn't have it any other way.

[half spindle]

As I said before I still stand by my statement now. Doom fans are like an endless (eternal even ) pit of black mambas. If you bring anything new to the table their venom will desolve you faster than the sea of acid in TDA.

[pulsar granite]

https://imgur.com/a/ElNEp9I what in the actual fuck am I meant to do here I forgor

[hard thistle]

Oh and the texture loading
Wtf is going on there, I swear the textures in this game are busted

[graceful lion]

even playing on ultra performance upscaling, tda still looks better than eternal, but that might be due to tda being very dark and thus looking more realistic

[delicate grotto]

Yeah Doom fans are impossible to please but that pretty much goes for any game franchise lmao

[vital rapids]

I think I might not have liked as much non-FPS gameplay as I initially thought.
Visualising it, long combat-heavy sections of dragon gameplay might have been annoying/messed up pacing

[zealous grotto]

Take a left I think

[hard thistle]

I don't really give a shit about the lack of glory kills. They do not fit TDA.

[half spindle]

Nah doom fans are on another level. We are talking about legendary franchise here.

[graceful lion]

i feel like the raytracing alone is a massive step up

[zealous grotto]

Why are people saying the game isn't fast enough like on nightmare it feels so fast with alot of enemies, and you can fr adjust the game speed and make it faster ffs

[pallid wing]

Fps games have had melee attacks for 30 years, but when Doom does it it's bad? Ffs

[errant pagoda]

I honestly can't tell which chapter it is. 🤔

[pulsar granite]

The thing is glory kills just slow the game down, and the same mfs who complain about the lack are people who complain about the game being slow

[gleaming swallow]

No, you use objectively to point out what the game has, that's the objective part, the moment you start throwing words like better or best it immediately becomes a subjective topic

[graceful lion]

as hugo once said
"if doom fans dont like something, they will burn your house down" (passionately, not literally)

[hard thistle]

Doom was already a legendary game franchise before glory kills so I fail to understand why it would be such a big deal to throw them out.

[pulsar granite]

The one where you rescue thira

[zealous grotto]

It's like you can't adjust the game speed

[zealous grotto]

Yep

[errant pagoda]

Chapter 20?

[hard thistle]

My issue is they removed glory kills because they “interrupt the flow of the game”, then turned around and added slow mo to every damn parry

[pulsar granite]

No the one where doomguy dies

[half spindle]

Guys instead of 💯 use . Come on now, we are on a doom server, please dont embarass yourselves, gentlemen.

[pulsar granite]

[inner mauve]

How does one gain the ability to post images

[errant pagoda]

wut? Not when he resurrects?

[zealous grotto]

What for

[delicate grotto]

That’s fair, but I wish the Hell Ships were at least a bit more interactive when chasing them. The sky just feels empty even though there’s supposed to be a war going on.

[pulsar granite]

No

[oak temple]

Surprised he didn't enjoy the game. He loved 2016 and thought Eternal was good.

[pulsar granite]

Dude idk it's pointing at a platform where I can't drop

[errant pagoda]

umm... you are not supposed to have a dragon there...

[delicate grotto]

He did enjoy it. He praised it even. Title is just misleading

[half spindle]

Mods lash this heretic for fun.

[hard thistle]

I want to emphasize my opinion that Glory Kills slowing down the game is a good thing in Eternal, where you are constantly flying all over the place and pressing 15 inputs. Having a two-second break/respite as a reward for doing well is a good choice. Never stop moving, shooting, jumping.
TDA has a different design philosophy. It's slower and more methodic, more grounded, you are weaving your way around projectiles and it is expected that you occasionally stand still or move deliberately to combat enemies. The respite from combat is achieved with the slow-mo melee attacks anyway.

[pulsar granite]

And the H button ain't doing shi

[hard thistle]

Wtf

[half spindle]

[pulsar granite]

I quit fuck it

[vital rapids]

You're in control the whole time during parry, and often actively dodging in ways most players would find difficult to learn or do in realtime. This doesn't have the same problems as long synced animations for eg 12 enemies

[pulsar granite]

How to kill serrat

[hard thistle]

Glory kills don't fit TDA for the same reason they wouldn't fit the classic games, because the combat is more about getting into a groove and working out your rhythm rather than in Eternal where it's more about going as fast as you fucking can. TDA has you going for a specific beat. Eternal encourages you to ramp the beat up as fast as possible. Different philosophies.

[errant pagoda]

bring them to assrack

[hard thistle]

I can just not glory kill
I can’t just not parry. Some enemies require a parry

[pulsar granite]

Don't forget enhanced asscrack is unbeatable without parry

[errant pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jp_5vDlm_A

[delicate grotto]

Man it must be fun fighting the Aggadon Hunter with no shield.

[pulsar granite]

Fuck you vega

[hard thistle]

The slow-mo achieves the same purpose as the glory kills, to have a slight break as a reward for optimal play.

[delicate grotto]

I agree but I’m also surprised it isn’t toggable.

[hard thistle]

I agree it should be toggleable, but I would never toggle it off.

[pulsar granite]

Will installing the no slow mo hide lag

[hard thistle]

It’s a minor oversight they said they’re working on
Important to remember game’s only been out for like 2 weeks

2016 and eternal have 9 and 5 years of fixes under their belts

[vital rapids]

Not with software rt I expect

[graceful lion]

40 fps will stay 40 fps

[zealous grotto]

What's that

[graceful lion]

your cores and shit are still the same

[hard thistle]

I tried playing TDA without the slow-mo and I kinda hated it. The melee and shield felt like they had no weight to them and it was a lot less intuitive to immediately tell if I've successfully parried something. The slow-mo while meleeing/parrying is important to enemies like the Cyberdemon where you are meant to be attacking in-between parries. Same with the Baron. The slow-mo gives you time to think while without it you're more encouraged to just "PRESS THE ATTACK BUTTON HURRY UP KILL IT!!!!!"

[gleaming swallow]

Sometimes the parry effect doesn't look like it hit your shield

[delicate grotto]

Okay to be fair 2016’s development stopped after like, 2 years post launch.

[vital rapids]

He's playing with software ray tracing. I too have no lag

[hard thistle]

True
Still though that’s 2 years of dev fixes

[zealous grotto]

What's without the slow mo

[errant pagoda]

a mod that removes the slow mo when you melee or do executions

[pulsar granite]

Anyways everyone Samsung vram is on aliexpress for 8 usd

[hard thistle]

TDA’s also on a completely new engine

[zealous grotto]

Oh how do u get dat

[pulsar granite]

Nexusmods

[graceful lion]

nah we gotta criticise the game very harshly and its only been out for 2 weeks smh, no updates, full raw execution

[vital rapids]

Downloading some now

[zealous grotto]

Alr

[hard thistle]

It's a mod.

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/kelvin-tech-id-gif-14507344425962431325

[zealous grotto]

Got it

[graceful lion]

i recommend the cheat engine version becuase you can also edit the game speed with it

[pulsar granite]

Next game engine leake

[hard thistle]

Sometimes it bugs me how people are like "The Dark Ages isn't bad, see!? You can make it good!" and then they just try to make it like Eternal. Fuck you. Doom Eternal is just one Doom game. Let the fucking Doom game have its own vision.

[gleaming swallow]

How much does this game cost again?

[graceful lion]

2 billion dollars

[hard thistle]

I can't be the only one who thinks the no slow-mo, ramped-up 150% speed gameplay just feels kind of weird. It doesn't feel like The Dark Ages, it just kinda feels like a cheap attempt to make it another game because you don't want to engage with this one on its level.
I like TDA at 110% speed. Any higher and I'm losing interest.

[vital rapids]

I can't agree strongly enough with this. Eternal exists and is there to play. All of the things that are different about TDA, I like

[graceful lion]

not worth the money at all, its only been out for 2 weeks, devs clearly dont care anymore

[pulsar granite]

Btw... You can technically download ram on Linux using swapfiles which take space from your ssd and use it as ram although slower

[gleaming swallow]

Then how did I get the game, because I don't have $2B in my back pocket

[graceful lion]

lets ignore the fact that the hardware the game requires has a better year to production ratio than 2016 and eternal, eternal which needed a 4 year old gpu, and tda needed a 6 year old one on release

[errant pagoda]

it costs the devs 2b dollars :P

[hard thistle]

I love this trilogy for how different each game is while still retaining a level of cohesion. I never wanted Eternal 2 and I'm glad that isn't what happened for the same reason I never wanted 2016 2.

[vital rapids]

Aren't you the person who said the pinky in TDA looks the same as the pinky from Eternal?

[graceful lion]

that takes some spectacular delusion,truly impressive my friend

[pulsar granite]

The tda pinky looks more like the doom 3 pinky icl

[errant pagoda]

The Dork Ages :P

[gleaming swallow]

I need you to actually go and find where I said that

[graceful lion]

eternal's gore was better, clearly, so was the physics

[vital rapids]

It's a question. It was you or one of the other ones

[hard thistle]

Fr RT has been around for 7 years. 9 if you want to be a pedantic ass and include a Titan card

[pulsar granite]

Ermm actually

The technology was invented way back and used for Pixar movies

[graceful lion]

the first raytracing demonstration was in 1968. the technology is not ready yet

[hard thistle]

FINE dedicated RT cores

[vital rapids]

Still not as long ago as some people bought their graphics card that "should" get 60fps at 4k

[hard thistle]

Actually, I genuinely wonder how that titan card would perform in this game

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/tarkov-streets-fps-gif-7169049143920371789

[errant pagoda]

wrose than Atlan card I presume :P

[pulsar granite]

It's similar to a 2080 ti

[graceful lion]

i dont like that people think that the 3090 or something was an 8k card but expect it to play 8k 60 fps, they said it can only play at 8k, not well tho

[south haven]

how tf are people still defending mandatory RT? its like being shot in the leg and defending the shooter lmao

[graceful lion]

the a6000?

[hard thistle]

Older than that
20 series is 2nd gen tensor cores
Lemme hunt this thing down

[pulsar granite]

The titan rtx is just a 2080 ti with more vram

[gleaming swallow]

You know typically whenever someone asks about the price of the game, chances are they're talking about actually buying the game to play it

[graceful lion]

the game requires 6 year old hardware, removing RT wont change that

[pulsar granite]

Oh you mean the titan x

[errant pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-8470516175995282617

[vital rapids]

It's not if you've been waiting aeons for RT games

[graceful lion]

you clearly like bringing up the same shit over and over without listening, so im not gonna bother with you

[delicate grotto]

I disagree.

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-warrior-kung-fu-panda-rtx-gif-19233196

[graceful lion]

im being hyperbolically sarcastic

[hard thistle]

The titan v
Volta cores

[vital rapids]

Objectively true

[delicate grotto]

Ah, I missed the context. My bad.

[graceful lion]

tda's physics are insanely good

[hard thistle]

Had to hunt it down lol

[pulsar granite]

Does that actually support rt

Isn't it a gtx card

[graceful lion]

well, any gpu can support rt, beucase theres RT and RT cores

[hard thistle]

It has first gen tensor cores so that’s what I’m wondering

[graceful lion]

like your rx 590 doenst have raytracing cores, it uses software raytracing to make these lighting calculations

[pulsar granite]

That will be able to play only quake 2 rtx and such

[vital rapids]

Yeah, gtx might be able to, but it may just be slow as balls

[graceful lion]

1080 ti

[pulsar granite]

Games that use first Gen rt, which the gtx cards had

Ain't no way bro is still angry 💀

[hard thistle]

First gen RT isn’t a thing

[pulsar granite]

[hard thistle]

Tensor is tensor, the software support is the problem here

[vital rapids]

I mean. There was presumably one

[graceful lion]

it is, rt cores on the 30 series are twice as good as the rt cores on the 20 series, and theyre 2nd gen rt cores iirc

[oak temple]

There's too many Eternal fans rather than Doom fans

[hard thistle]

Hardware cores, not software support

[vital rapids]

Driver level rt support, hardware level mesh support

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-gif-338783462287106063

[graceful lion]

yeh

[hard thistle]

Yea I’m asking if the first gen tensor cores support modern RT games basically
Never see it tested since it was pretty much one limited Titan card

[pulsar granite]

How better would tda perform if I bought a Radeon vii

[hard thistle]

I don’t think Radeon vii has hardware RT cores did it? It was still GCN architecture

[hard thistle]

Eternal's my favorite Doom game but I dislike the amount of [INSERT WHATEVER TERM THAT SOUNDS REALLY PRETENTIOUS AND GATEKEEP-Y HERE] that seem to only give a shit about Eternal and reject anything Doom has to offer that isn't it.

[vital rapids]

How are team green drivers for games on Linux atm?

[pulsar granite]

There are the official Nvidia ones and the mesa ones which suck ass

Mesa has always sucked for Nvidia it's good only for amd and intel

[graceful lion]

the game has forced raytracing so tda suckskss!!!

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-sob-uoh-3d-gif-24602826

[graceful lion]

raytracing is amazing, for both developers and players

[half spindle]

Im cool with your tier list.

[half spindle]

No Mick Gordon, soundtrack is shit!!!

[graceful lion]

saves a fuckton of time, looks great, lets devs do alot of other shit, including optimizing the game

[half spindle]

SOUNDTRACK IS BASED.

[pulsar granite]

Jack. 80... Million! And all you've got to do, is let him go.

[vital rapids]

Can't swap weapons during parries and survive 😭 😭 🤢 😭

[half spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/its-over-its-genuinely-over-seal-sad-seal-breaking-news-gif-243396507301445550

[foggy breach]

It's peak.

What type of metal is TDA?

[half spindle]

Id say it has lots of metal groove.

[pulsar granite]

Ass, I can never hear the damn music

[hard thistle]

It’s so joever

[half spindle]

IMA RIP YOU IN HALF.

[hard thistle]

THANK YOU
the mixing is so busted

[foggy breach]

Quiet as TAG's music

[graceful lion]

and no, on that point, tda was not optimized badly, it is arguably optimized incredibly, basically every raytracing gpu from 2019 and onwards (6 yaer old hardware btw) can run the game well

[pulsar granite]

Why the fuck did they make the music volume so quiet 😭 😭 😭

[vital rapids]

Remember to sprint jump dude

[graceful lion]

theyre gonna fix it iirc

[half spindle]

Actually true.

[fleet spruce]

Just discovered that if i combine built-in FSR Quality with built-in RSR on ROG Ally i get surprisingly sharp image

[half spindle]

Maybe theyll fix it.

[pulsar granite]

This is worse than wolfensteim 2's music volume icl

[hard thistle]

And I swear if you turn it up, it breaks everything else

[foggy breach]

Is it implied that the Slayer's shotgun is from 64?

[pulsar granite]

Why can't they make lossless scaling for Linux bro cmon 😭 😭 😭

[foggy breach]

But just modified?

[half spindle]

Heavily modified version. Almost made from blueprint to argents taste.

[vital rapids]

They were concerned that taking the edge off situational awareness by drowning out sounds would impact gameplay. But they've said they took it too far maybe and will fix

[half spindle]

No 100 only

[foggy breach]

That's pretty cool that it's the same shotgun from 64.

[graceful lion]

the argents found him with his "arcane weaponry", and sought to improve it

[half spindle]

[vital rapids]

Just make it yourself dude.

[pulsar granite]

It's closed source 😭 😭 😭

[fleet spruce]

Uhhh, SteamOS on Steam Deck has FSR built-in which is by the way really good there, not sure about compitability with other devices at the moment but there's probably a solution to that available

[pulsar granite]

That's gamescope I think, idk I've never used it

And fsr is in the game already, frame gen is just broken and it's like that on windows too

[half spindle]

Ban everyone who does 100 only will remain.

[pulsar granite]

What if I use both

[half spindle]

• and - gives - so BAN

[pulsar granite]

💯 💯 💯

[half spindle]

In the end you are left with -

[pulsar granite]

Asshole vega 💯 💯 💯

[half spindle]

• again

[foggy breach]

We gotta get a boxing glove gun reskin for the Chainshot

In mods

[torn vector]

We need new enemies on the upcoming DLC

[pulsar granite]

Doom 3 bruiser

[torn vector]

Or the baby with wimgs

[placid rock]

please no head spiders, hated dealing with those lol

[torn vector]

Small spiders

[placid rock]

nooooo

[vital rapids]

Some sort of extra buffed marauder

Without the stupidly generous range window

[placid rock]

no more shields! i deal with enough of them on agadon hunters and soldiers lmao

[pulsar granite]

We need them back so that someone can say fuck the baby demons and get cancelled

[foggy breach]

Add the Spectre Whiplashes for bullshit reasons

[pulsar granite]

Add the guy with the long tentacle

That dude was a nightmare fr

[hard thistle]

😏

[foggy breach]

Trust me, Spectre Whiplashes are needed

[vital rapids]

Cursed Marauder with ten-shot homing projectile barrages

[pulsar granite]

I looked up thira too and I have the intense need to jork it today

[hard thistle]

REAL

[placid rock]

https://tenor.com/view/no-the-office-michael-scott-scream-gif-16929305

[pulsar granite]

💀

[vital rapids]

Dopefish Baron

[pulsar granite]

The maledict

Maybe an evil serrat could work for that

[placid rock]

ngl i deal with whiplashes easily but the friggen spectres are just invisible enough to make me not know where they are lmao

[vital rapids]

Possessed dragons could actually be great

[placid rock]

demon serrat? oooo

[long forge]

[placid rock]

i keep thinking the name has one r for some reason lol

[vital rapids]

Makes more sense phonetically

Maybe two Ts

[hard thistle]

Where are the Thira emotes

[placid rock]

🐉

[south haven]

What? Yes it would lmao? The only reason the game runs so poorly is because of RT

[hard thistle]

Also
The way the maykr says “thira” in the opening movie is SO satisfying. The impact of it he’s like “god DAMMIT this shit again”

[placid rock]

no serrat emotes either 😭

[hard thistle]

Me when I have zero understanding how how technology works

[placid rock]

honestly. i could make some art of emotes, i have a program that works in that style of art

[real lynx]

TDA is goated we have a fatass maykr

[hard thistle]

the RT is baked into projectile tracking, the required hardware is 7 (9 if you’re pedantic) years old.
Get with the times

[hard thistle]

Sin of gluttony ahhh maykr

[real lynx]

Thira: "Bishop Kreed, where is the slayer?"

Kreed: "Mmpgh...burrrrp"

[placid rock]

trying to find the 3d model of the doomblade is a pain

[vital rapids]

Just switch it off bro. Just make it so I can press X to switch it off and I'll do the work

[summer temple]

Did anybody notice that the heart of argent kind of looks like the quake logo?

[gleaming swallow]

They better cook with the dlc story content, and go harder on the music

[hard thistle]

Go work for them

[graceful lion]

yeah, if you think the game is optimized badly, then do it yourself

[vital rapids]

Yeah you make a good point, we need MOAR LOUDER FINISHING MOVE 🎸

[graceful lion]

ohhh right you cant and you dont understand the process, forgot about that

[graceful lion]

alright, so do you think the game requiring 6 year old hardware minimum is bad?

[wise junco]

I really hate Marauder

[gleaming swallow]

Bro is yapping out of his vagina at this point

[placid rock]

same

[gleaming swallow]

Good lord

[graceful lion]

what the fuck is that comment

[vital rapids]

It's just a checkbox bro. They can copy and paste a checkbox to turn it off

[hard thistle]

You wanna blame anyone, blame hardware manufacturers
They realized whatever crap they shit out WILL sell, including $700 GPUs that are already VRAM constrained today

[graceful lion]

nope, engine was built with raytracing from the ground up iirc

[wise junco]

@placid rock He's to hard to kill

[vital rapids]

Did you mean to choose those exact words? Who are they aimed at?

[hard thistle]

It’s baked into the projectile tracking lol
There’s no “on or off”

[graceful lion]

game looks dark as fuck without RT

[placid rock]

found out that to easily kill him is to either spam grenades onto him or grab a bfg aim and the ground run up to him and blast

[gritty matrix]

I don't buy this honestly

[graceful lion]

also yeah these people refuse to take actual points and just say "this guy is yapping grr", so they clearly have no leg to stand on, as they also have no idea how optimization works or otherwise

[wise junco]

Thanks for the tips

[hard thistle]

You don’t have to, the engineers said it

[gritty matrix]

but it was stated that if they build the engine normally, it would have taken much longer. I am not sure how it works but I believe it

[graceful lion]

so dealing with these people is basically pointless, as they ignore what you say, and keep saying "ur bullshitting out ur ass"

[graceful lion]

iirc a developer at id said years, literal years

[gleaming swallow]

Me: They better cook with the dlc story content, and go harder on the music

-Fidget

"yeah, if you think the game is optimized badly, then do it yourself"

"ohhh right you cant and you dont understand the process, forgot about that"

[graceful lion]

we would literally get tda after gta 6

[vital rapids]

Nobody's shown it running without RT as far as I can tell. Only with RTGI strangled by vram, or with software RT, or with GTX driver RT

[hard thistle]

Yea RT is removing a lot of weird, time consuming workarounds for devs
People complaining about it give me the same energy as those that complained about games not being built in assembly lmao

[gritty matrix]

I've messed with 3d software and well if you use ray tracing you just set materials and some other charateristics and the ray tracing to stuff for you. If you do not, achieving the same results is way more challenging

[graceful lion]

i was not talking to you

these people sometimes, my god, you arent the star of the show, am i really that deep in your head?

[gleaming swallow]

Then use your brain and use the reply function

[graceful lion]

and as raytracing is like anything else, it is optimizable

[graceful lion]

i dont have one, how do i solve this issue?

[vital rapids]

It's all still using RT in the end

[graceful lion]

or software raytraced on linux

[vital rapids]

And in some cases, literally impossible on current hardware

[gritty matrix]

few years ago was unthinable to have real time raytracing. To bake a scene could take several minutes.

[graceful lion]

people are getting mad that a technology first showcased in 1968 is being added to games in 2025, crazy

[hard thistle]

Were any of y’all around for the late 90s/00s tech explosion?
Literally every 6 months your stuff was outdated

[vital rapids]

I kind of agree

[graceful lion]

people definitely also got mad that eternal didnt run on a 750 ti or some shit in its time

[gleaming swallow]

Funny yet a few hours ago I said the same thing & you were the one who decided to reply to me

And now you wanna act like I'm the one seeking your attention, fuck outta here

[graceful lion]

same with 2016 not running on (insert outdated gpu here)

[placid rock]

ngl the raytracing makes the game look really good

[vital rapids]

Kill it with fire!
https://youtu.be/WHQZp1td-qI

[placid rock]

hes more of a marine than a spartan

[graceful lion]

alright, ill begone, but tell me before i leave, is the game requiring atleast 6 year old hadware a bad thing?

[pulsar granite]

But you have never seen the game without rt

https://tenor.com/view/skull-emoji-what-hello-flabbergasted-confused-gif-17948163430000042688

[graceful lion]

after all it is on par or even better with previous games released in their time

[gritty matrix]

on my system it looks ok, I think my GPU isn't so good for RT

[pulsar granite]

Specs

[gritty matrix]

it's a 6600

[hard thistle]

Minimum requirements ahhh gpu

[gritty matrix]

but it works, it even go at 60 fps with frame generation

[vital rapids]

People have now grown up entirely as gamers with the whole industry held back by games consoles, and have never known real upgrade brutality 😂

[graceful lion]

iirc a 6600 has worse rt cores than a 20 series, amd got into rt very late

[graceful lion]

ive got less than minimum and the game runs at 90+ fps, yet somehow its not optimized well....

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-linux-tux-tux-linux-gif-341950137175367051