the-dark-ages

[placid rock]

the only call of duty i liked was black ops

[shrewd mountain]

I have beef with a tiktok doom creator

[brazen heron]

Fucking Zelda OCARINAOF TIME released in 1998 and HL got the award

[vital rapids]

Whereas the first and second game were genuinely acceptable, even good FPS games. More the first, admittedly

[pulsar granite]

why the fuck is there a green keycard emoji it doesn't even exist

[hard thistle]

Peak fps if you ask me. 2019 was good but had issues, bo6 is also... A game. Cool campaign but fucking hell the multiplayer should be a gambling game bcs you never know when you gonna encounter an esports caffeine addict who js instakills you with the same gun you're using

[shrewd mountain]

There's a guy on tiktok making doom content but a lot of info is blatantly wrong

[brazen heron]

Military shooters were designed to be unoriginal and mid lmao

[summer temple]

Or just downright atrocious. Honestly it would be cool if the mixed the military aesthetics with other stuff.

[placid rock]

for people feeling green lol

[shrewd mountain]

Weed card

[ebon shale]

Not when you are colorblind

[placid rock]

seeing that message with markipliers face is priceless

[pulsar granite]

But then you see the green one as a diff color

[shrewd mountain]

The vegan card

[ebon shale]

Or you see Red as green

[pulsar granite]

Vegan teacher card

[river fern]

It does exist though, together with the cyan and magenta keycards

[placid rock]

🤣

[pulsar granite]

[placid rock]

vegan card killed me lmao

[pulsar granite]

This is my new skull emoji fuck you

[shrewd mountain]

I have beef with braid nation
They keep claiming the doomslayer cant die and he's "immune to lava"

[summer temple]

Each game just be a carbon copy of the last. Make something new god damnit, it’s not that hard

[hard thistle]

Helldivers and battlefront did this well for me (haven't played helldivers but its awesome i wanna). Space marines with a military aesthetic, and some of the guns in star wars being based off real world guns too

[pulsar granite]

[shrewd mountain]

Dawg the doomslayers only canonical ||death is from LAVA||

He's not diving into lava to aura farm

[placid rock]

isnt that why he does the thumbs up? lol

[shrewd mountain]

That's not how his powers or characterization works ☠️

[shrewd mountain]

He does it when he dies to lava, hes not jumping into lava to aura farm

[vital rapids]

Best military class-based shooters: Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory and Quake Wars

[placid rock]

yeah i dont get why the guy thinks hes immune to lava thats just weird

[pulsar granite]

Lava makes doom slayer so strong that the world instantly explodes and that's why it counts as a death in game

[shrewd mountain]

Its a terminator reference, he did watch restricted movies in the rec room in 1993

[placid rock]

quake 3 wasnt that bad for what is was

[pulsar granite]

Because he is.

[brazen heron]

Slayer in gameplay is not equal to Slayer in Lore

[placid rock]

pft fuckin watching movies in a break room lol

[shrewd mountain]

Like you cant say the doomslayer is immune to lava when HE DIES TO LAVA

[brazen heron]

"Sonic is wall level because he gets hurt by spikes!"

[placid rock]

[pulsar granite]

The lava makes him so strong that the world explodes, that's why he dies

[shrewd mountain]

It kinda is when the gameplay items have canonical explainations for existing

[brazen heron]

"Mario is brick level!"

[shrewd mountain]

Yea but he dies in the cosmic realm to cosmic lava

[summer temple]

I sorta got an idea for a doom clone that has military aesthetics but is only one element of the atmosphere. I hope to make it at some point but it won’t be any time soon

[shrewd mountain]

That's not gameplay that is LORE

[placid rock]

wasnt that acid?

[pulsar granite]

doom clone

[shrewd mountain]

It was on fire, its lava

Acid doesnt combust

[pulsar granite]

Can someone give me a can of methylamine

[brazen heron]

Not all fires and lava is equal

[vital rapids]

Cosmic acid on cosmic fire. Fact

[shrewd mountain]

He still dies to lava

[placid rock]

🥫

[brazen heron]

It's cosmic lava,powered by wraith energy

[shrewd mountain]

The doomslayer isn't indestructible, hes as vulnerable as a human, just with insane strength and speed and willpower rivaling a green lantern

[pulsar granite]

Bro i was watching better call saul yesterday and when Hector made his first appearance I cried so hard

[twilit pumice]

Just Nu Doom or classic too?

[vital rapids]

Oh I know you didn't just bring Green Lantern into this

[summer temple]

Literally what it is. Started out as an idea for a total conversion idea but grew into something larger. So they got similar plots as a result

[shrewd mountain]

They think isabelle is canonically married to doomslayer

[placid rock]

[pulsar granite]

This shit pmo

[shrewd mountain]

Which yes its a funny joke but cmon brother ☠️🙏

[pulsar granite]

Like just because they tweeted it doesn't mean it's Canon

[brazen heron]

No,he literally absorbed the power of the Father and Davoth,and many opponents he fought lmao,and he also got powered by the divinity machine

[shrewd mountain]

That's like saying "doomslayer canonically was in fortnite"

[placid rock]

they said they were dating but never married lol

[shrewd mountain]

Where does it say he has the power of the father?

[pulsar granite]

And then doesn't that make doomguy a zoophile?

[summer temple]

[brazen heron]

Slayer absorbs the powers and essence of those who he destroys

[placid rock]

he blasted the fathers essence to samuel

[shrewd mountain]

The divinity machine didn't make him invincible, it enhanced what was already present in the doom marine and made him immortal

[pulsar granite]

[hard thistle]

And hotter.

Im kidding guys cmon im straight

[shrewd mountain]

Gave him black hair too for some reason

[placid rock]

no because the animals in animal crossing are anthro

[vital rapids]

That was the lava

[shrewd mountain]

Its gay month who cares

[pulsar granite]

I can't wait for Netflix to make a Doom movie and make the slayer black

[brazen heron]

Also fun fact marauders also got powered by the divinity machine...somehow

[twilit pumice]

Oh, this shit joke that was funny for not even a second.
Vega, nuke that man's house. Jk

[shrewd mountain]

He's voiced by a black person

[pulsar granite]

Goated then

[brazen heron]

Bro this joke might make someone here mad

[frail bloom]

Huh? That's impossible no

[placid rock]

straight is where its at you need to be a trapezoid

[plucky haven]

the lava is argent infused

[frail bloom]

Bc it usually fries the worthy

[shrewd mountain]

Not powered, ressurected..

[pulsar granite]

No but fr I need a black slayer. I'm not kidding

[brazen heron]

Have you ever checked the codexes

[shrewd mountain]

Remember the seraphim reversed the polarity of the machine to enhance the slayer, the machine was made to filter impurities

[frail bloom]

Oh it was ressurected not powered up

[shrewd mountain]

Phobos...

[frail bloom]

They were ressurected

[shrewd mountain]

They weren't enhanced

[frail bloom]

Right

[shrewd mountain]

They aren't rivaling doomslayer brother

[astral summit]

The first two Doom games have the BFG, the third one has the BFC

[pulsar granite]

Please stop saying doomguy and isabelle are canonically married, Id tweeted that prob as a joke and then that makes doomguy a zoo

[shrewd mountain]

Doomslayer isn't invincible, hes immortal and his power is enhanced from the willpower and strength he already had, he has the power to siphon strength and health from demons

This is baseline knowledge I cant believe I have to explain it every time

[brazen heron]

Average doom fans are not known to be very intelligent

[astral summit]

Aka glory kills for health

[shrewd mountain]

Isabelle isn't a straight up dog

But yes I agree its a funny joke but it shouldn't be more then that

[pulsar granite]

Wait doomguy is a furry then

[astral summit]

Based

[shrewd mountain]

HE HAS A UNICORN SUIT

[sonic turret]

A what?

[wheat sigil]

gross*

[brazen heron]

Don't let this guy cook

[frail bloom]

No no we are talking abt beastiality

[placid rock]

and a cosplay suit

[astral summit]

Furries are not zoophiles

[frail bloom]

Or however it's spelled

[shrewd mountain]

People think them getting married and then immediately think of them fucking

[placid rock]

yuck

[vital rapids]

There is some knowledge it is best not to have my friend

[frail bloom]

I know but we're talking abt the tweet

[shrewd mountain]

They could be married (as a joke) without doing anything

[brazen heron]

There are people who made art of anthro Daisy and Slayer,don't let some people cook

[twilit pumice]

And some genuinely ship the two...
When really it would be Doom Slayer and his SSG

[frail bloom]

And what it implies if yu take it seriously

[wheat sigil]

marrying an animal is gross either way lmfao

[hard thistle]

Yea bro the isabelle and doomguy ship is so uncanny to me. Best friends is acceptable but bro shes a dog. Doomguy loves animals but not that much

[placid rock]

nah it be slayer and samus

[hard thistle]

^^

[vital rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/escalated-quickly-anchorman-drinking-gif-5112090

[sonic turret]

Who's Isabelle?

[shrewd mountain]

She has more human characteristics than animal, but whatever

[river fern]

The Doomguy and Isabelle ship is 1. Weird AND 2. Not canon. They would be friends at most.

[hard thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/animal-crossing-new-horizons-isabelle-smiling-happy-cheerful-gif-17858128

[wheat sigil]

not realising this is uhh... yeah... uhh

[shrewd mountain]

Im not arguing ethics over furry shipping

[winter bobcat]

Hey is dark ages worth buying?

[shrewd mountain]

No its woke slop

[placid rock]

sadly... the tweets made it look very canon

[winter bobcat]

Idk. I’m not sold on it- campaign is shorter etc.

[shrewd mountain]

It was one semi implied joke

[winter bobcat]

Seems like the $70 bucks is bait

[shrewd mountain]

Campaign is not shorter where did you hear that

[placid rock]

No it has way more missions than eternal

[winter bobcat]

Here. In reviews

[river fern]

The tweets are tweets. The games are games.

[vital rapids]

Yes definitely, but probably try to find a sale or use gamepass because the price is high

[winter bobcat]

Oh cool. So it’s longer?

[sonic turret]

😬

[shrewd mountain]

It's short if you power through the missions, then its the same length as a 100% doom eternal run

[brazen heron]

Do you like modern doom overall a lot?Probably yes.Do you LOVE Eternal and only Eternal?Absolutely no.

[frail bloom]

Bc they had to rush thru it, doom eternal and 2016 is also short if yu ignore exploration

It in actuality is like 20 hrs long normally

[shrewd mountain]

If you 100% doom eternal, it could take 13 hours, if you skip everything in TDA, its 13 hours

[winter bobcat]

Gameplay the parry appeals

[astral summit]

More like 10

[placid rock]

it actually takes a good bit to get everything done

[shrewd mountain]

20 if you actually care about secrets

[vital rapids]

It's good

[hard thistle]

Shes from animal crossing which released the same day as doom eternal, so people put them as best friends bcs of the obvious contrast with their themes

[placid rock]

if you dont do anything but the story

[shrewd mountain]

If you dont hunt for secrets in a doom game you are missing out

[hard thistle]

Theres a whole music video about them

[pulsar granite]

I hope isabelle gets shot

[frail bloom]

Ye exploration is a core part of the game

[shrewd mountain]

Yall are mean I like animal crossing :(

[frail bloom]

Do not ignore it

[vital rapids]

I'd love to see the Slayer wage war on the Animal Crossing dimension ngl

[pulsar granite]

Prob the dumbest ship ever

[shrewd mountain]

With the dude with a pet rabbit, a unicorn fursuit and a pet dragon

[pulsar granite]

Scam

[river fern]

What prompted this comment?

[pulsar granite]

Scam

[pulsar granite]

Everything

[hard thistle]

I had to look up who this 'Isabelle' is ngl

[pulsar granite]

Scam

[shrewd mountain]

I mentioned a tiktok account I have beef with, cause they think isabelle is canonically married to doomslayer

[hard thistle]

Imagine them getting invaded by demons and isabelle says "i know a guy" then DS crashes in

[shrewd mountain]

Also blatantly gets lore wrong

[pulsar granite]

Yeah the only reason is that id tweeted that

[brazen heron]

Nintendo DS mentioned?!

[hard thistle]

I'm about to say 'troll!' but then I realized that tiktok accounts are not always of high intelligence

[pulsar granite]

UT it doesn't mean it's Canon bruv 💔

[hard thistle]

Yh its a stupid ship. But them as best friends is cool imo

[placid rock]

tbh i enjoyed the little animations on youtube like the music video of isabel and doomslayer killing demons

[pulsar granite]

The real ship is thira

[hard thistle]

[shrewd mountain]

They are 100% besties at most

[pulsar granite]

Shit so hard I wanna play Doom on my 3ds

[shrewd mountain]

Soul mates even

[hard thistle]

Thira😍

[shrewd mountain]

Shipping, I doubt it

[vital rapids]

rip and tear in animal crossing
Could be the most epic game yet

[shrewd mountain]

Crybaby ship, Slayer x novik goes hard

[hard thistle]

I don't hate Animal Crossing I guess
I used to play it on wii a lot back then

[frail bloom]

STOP IT NO

[pulsar granite]

Why did doom slayer grab thira arm like that?

[hard thistle]

Imagine how hard the ost would go

[frail bloom]

[river fern]

Your first mistake was using tiktok 💀

[placid rock]

shes the only one who believed in him at first i think

[hard thistle]

Bro have you seen her biceps id be clinging to them

Ah, TikTok, good reminder that when something is too dumb to be real... it often is just dumb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl86G6L5PnU

[pulsar granite]

[hard thistle]

Literally

[placid rock]

love that scene

[vital rapids]

Mick Gordon riffs slamming out as you rend cutesy animals and spray gore everywhere 👌🏻

[shrewd mountain]

I keep having beef with Braidnation on tiktok cause they think the slayer is absolutely invincible and jumps into lava on purpose to aura farm

[river fern]

There is nothing of sanity to be found in Tiktok, Twitter or any of that shit. Just nuke it all

[brazen heron]

Slayer beats Goku

[south haven]

dont be the guy who flexes with "i dont even have a tiktok account!".. its not a flex to be out of the loop

[pulsar granite]

https://youtu.be/ju5VG5obc6g?si=3b8lS8aoNh7psSlP

[placid rock]

not with novic being a ass and mistrusting the slayer all the time

[hard thistle]

I regret nothing.

[hard thistle]

"He made up his mind ten minutes ago."

[vital rapids]

tiktok isn't the loop, though
it's not even loop adjacent

[brazen heron]

Twitter attracts both the worst of both sides in politics somehow Shit attracts shit

[shrewd mountain]

He's the one bringing him back tf?

[hard thistle]

I miss mick

[twilit pumice]

Their brains are already partly rotted away. They have no attention span

[placid rock]

nope it was thira

[pulsar granite]

Do what you gotta-

[shrewd mountain]

He the one with the whole "rip and tear" monologue

[hard thistle]

That scene is pretty funny ngl.

"Jack, it doesn't concern you!! 😩 "
"We just wasted his partner here and he's wearing a bullet, so YES, I'd say it does concern me. "

[placid rock]

thats true

[river fern]

Yeah I truly feel left out when I'm not watching a cooking video with subway surfers and minecraft footage next to it for the 628th time

[vital rapids]

thank you for expressing simple, honest appreciation of Mick Gordon's work without crapping on anyone
rare and wholesome tbh

[south haven]

what was this?

[brazen heron]

Don't let Finishng Move ever fucking cook a DOOM OST

[pulsar granite]

And then Todd going sorry for your loss

[shrewd mountain]

Bro your fyp sucks ass

[river fern]

[frail bloom]

Aww man from the ashes and into the void are real good doom songs

[shrewd mountain]

That's like going to subway and saying its ass, DUMBASS YOU MADE THE SANDWICH

[brazen heron]

Or any generic game OST composing studio for that matter

[pulsar granite]

https://youtu.be/J9RP-KfvdKc?si=aVeUHp91xMRmWct1

[hard thistle]

I haven't watched this film but every time I see an @ everyone ping this just plays in my head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMRll73oB9M

[brazen heron]

Mick is irreplacable,but even TAG was great

[shrewd mountain]

Yall are losers i love the TDA ost

[river fern]

This type of shit is everyone's FYP.

[pulsar granite]

Holy shit the memes this created

[shrewd mountain]

Mick wouldn't fit the current vibe

[frail bloom]

But but
From the Ashes
Into the void
Atlan battlegrounds

[placid rock]

i know that scenee!!lmao

[frail bloom]

Atlan battlegrounds is very 2016

[hard thistle]

Bro i loved all of doom's ost's. Dark ages, 2016,eternal(including TAG). I do not understand how people say dark ages' ost is generic sounding. It fits the game well and it goes hard in gym(and yes i speak from experience)

[shrewd mountain]

I love the use of other string instruments mixed with thrash metal

[brazen heron]

TDA has a standard metal game ost

[frail bloom]

Into the void is lovecraft metal

[shrewd mountain]

Bullshit "standard"

[hard thistle]

TDA is probably my least favorite ost, it's kinda generic, but it's by no means 'bad'

[brazen heron]

Good is NOT enough for DOOM

[frail bloom]

And from the ashes is a great bossfight song

[vital rapids]

True from previous work
but in fairness, he's not an idiot and probably would have made something tone-appropriate. As Finishing Move did

[pulsar granite]

Why are we shipping doom slayer to isabelle and thira when Hugo canonically confirmed he was married before and had a kid

[hard thistle]

It's still better than many other video games osts.

"Not enough for DOOM" I dunno who decides that

[shrewd mountain]

It has such a nice medieval theme over it, with the cello and other instruments it goes so hard

[shrewd mountain]

If micks name was over the FM ost, people would glaze it

[shrewd mountain]

Its joke shipping mostly

[brazen heron]

TDA OST is "good",but that's it .It isn't the same level of the legendary ost of Eternal

[frail bloom]

Guys mix tda ost with 2016's it's a very good experience

[placid rock]

generally i really dont think the music should matter that much when your killing demons, unless its some happy daisy music not making it sound good

[pulsar granite]

Until people take it seriously and say they're canonically married and shit

[frail bloom]

I agree, but it's the same level as 2016 for me, 2016 has a lot of tracks with dead air

[vital rapids]

I'll have to try this, thanks

[hard thistle]

Why ship doomslayer with anyone, obviously besides his wife, but even if she didn't exist, itd still js feel... Off

[shrewd mountain]

I tried playing eternals ost over TDA and had a horrible experience

[pulsar granite]

She does exist, there's the photo in eternal and Hugo said it was his wife

[frail bloom]

Try looking for "doom bangers" on spotify, it has a cover of the slayer in a blue backround

[shrewd mountain]

It does not fit the combat style AT ALL

[tribal patrol]

is there a way to change the sound when you pick up impaler ammo or turn it off, it sounds horrible

[hard thistle]

I still see Doomguy as aromantic

[hard thistle]

I once listened to happy daisy music while playing doom 2016 and i felt like a psychopath... But i loved it

[pulsar granite]

I never even hear the tda ost

[placid rock]

thats been lore for so long

[vital rapids]

100%, the vibe is completely wrong. Feels and plays "off"

[shrewd mountain]

Its peak, people just cant handle change

[pulsar granite]

It feels weird to think doomguy was married and had a kid tbh

[placid rock]

ah i see wrong message

[vital rapids]

ha, I replied to the wrong thing, sorry

[pulsar granite]

Ah fucc

[twilit pumice]

Baby's first metal band? Or does the OST genuinely not fit you?

[hard thistle]

I just can't imagine Doomguy as being seriously in love with someone. Him caring for a rabbit and avenging Daisy feels much more badass in a way, humanizing but also averting the age-old 'wife ded' cliché

[empty sable]

His true relationship is with demons. He hates them and must rip and tear.

[pulsar granite]

I just lost my dawg

[hard thistle]

Ye ik but i mean IF she didn't

[pulsar granite]

Hell no what if I look up thira in r34

[placid rock]

the whole idea is that his family including daisy was killed by demons

[frail bloom]

NOOOO

[pulsar granite]

I won't dw

[frail bloom]

Oh ok

[shrewd mountain]

Yall are losers fighting over metal, PLAY CLASSICAL MUSIC OVER TDA

[hard thistle]

Yeah I guess the family part was later added in a retcon, but it's still taking some time to accept since Daisy has been mentioned as the sole motivation since DOOM 1

[vital rapids]

I bet a lot of demons are pissed at the guy who decided to do the bunny thing

[placid saffron]

there's a reason they wanted to cut the picture from eternal, they just forgot to do it
then again the entire slayer fortress section shouldn't be taken as cannon

[hard thistle]

Thanks for the idea. I'll see you tomorrow.

[empty sable]

War changes a person and so doesn't loss.

[shrewd mountain]

Play some hyperpop over TDA

[pulsar granite]

When it was revealed that doomguy and novik were married and thira was their daughter I cried so hard on the floor

[shrewd mountain]

You control the music you listen to

[placid rock]

i dont care about all the music i generally just turn it down usually

i rather hear the sounds in the game

[hard thistle]

Istg if its not parents, its a wife/husband and kid. So overused

Play Benny Hill theme over DOOM

Oh wait that actually fits. That song fits with everything

[shrewd mountain]

TDA fits the combat, the tone and aesthetic of the game, putting eternals Djent groove style over a game that doesnt support it is very offputting

[twilit pumice]

Isn't it cause the ost is a bit much for your senses?
In general across nu doom

[brazen heron]

Bro is cooking Tumblr fanfiction

[frail bloom]

Me PERSONALLY
I think tda ost is on the same level as 2016's, both albums have tracks that blend with eachother or don't offer as much clarity banging moments as eternal did, but there are a select few tracks thst stand out

And I've talked with Alex Klingle they are open to improving

[shrewd mountain]

Eternal played like a rhythm game

[vital rapids]

ngl I'm curious about how Doom would play with some Strauss

[pulsar granite]

Wait wait wait. Where the fuck is the arch vile in tda

[hard thistle]

...

[hard thistle]

There isn't one.

[frail bloom]

It's the acolyte now

[placid rock]

yes due to me being autistic

[hard thistle]

I mean arch vile also wasnt in doom 2016

[brazen heron]

Eternal is not djent groove though,it is more thrash industrial(mostly)

[vital rapids]

Play TDA with this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL57IKFx52k

[shrewd mountain]

I dont know any metal that actually sounds like TDA's soundtrack, calling it "generic" is such a bad take imo

[hard thistle]

Thankfully. They kept that pathetic, Neo Cortex-looking asshole of a summoner behind lock and key

[twilit pumice]

I'm also autistic. I get what you mean

[pulsar granite]

Who the fuck is the acolyte I can't remember

[shrewd mountain]

It has more focus on the riffs

[hard thistle]

Bro is cooking

[placid rock]

essientally i think the stalker imp turns into the archvile

[hard thistle]

The witch who summons a clone

[pulsar granite]

Ah

[placid saffron]

unironically it would fit in a montage

[pulsar granite]

Not worthy of taking the Archie S place tbh

[vital rapids]

yep 😂

[shrewd mountain]

The eternal ost is 99% the same riff played over a loop

[hard thistle]

The doom 2016 ones right?

[shrewd mountain]

Its extremely good but its not as experimental as 2016's ost, and not as consistent with TDA

It fits the gameplay of eternal and gets the rage flowing

[empty sable]

So lore-wise was Ahzrak and the Witch getting it on?

[pulsar granite]

[shrewd mountain]

What that mouth do..

[pulsar granite]

I want to look up thira on r34 but I won't

[hard thistle]

I mean... Lust is a sin and he is the prince of hell

[placid rock]

im using this music and gonna have some mods on to have infinite melee charges and just go bashing everything to the music lmao

[pulsar granite]

Yes

[frail bloom]

So many different opiniados O thought 2016 was boring to...HEY DON'T DO IT KIRYU

[vital rapids]

I think a riff that catches you can be enough
I love the Doom 3 theme, and a riff is almost all it is

[frail bloom]

NO NO NO KIRYU

[pulsar granite]

Prince asscrack banging witch

[frail bloom]

NOOOOO

[pulsar granite]

[vital rapids]

ha yes, making your traversal/combat flow to this music would be hilarious

[shrewd mountain]

Its not bad, im just pointing out different styles of music / metal ISNT BAD

[hard thistle]

i will.

[placid rock]

too late he died before he could get his cherry popped

[pulsar granite]

This is the only memory I have of ep4 in Doom 1993

[shrewd mountain]

Doom music isn't just argent metal, it isn't just mick

And TDA is far from generic metal

[pulsar granite]

Tell me how it is

[shrewd mountain]

It has less memorable riffs, but its still good
People praise the wolfenstein ost but I cant recall one song from it

[hard thistle]

I was not disappointed.

[pulsar granite]

Thy flesh consumed

[shrewd mountain]

ITS ALSO MADE BY MICK SO GO FUCK YOURSELF

[twilit pumice]

Got his head popped through some head action with a flail

[hard thistle]

I actually referred to archies not being in TDA but yeah I don't like 2016 summoner's much either

At least summoner is easier to kill in later areas

[shrewd mountain]

People who call TDA's ost generic and glaze mick should listen to wolfenstien new orders ost and then try to recall a single song by name

[hard thistle]

the screams when they died were satisfying tho (im sane istg)

[vital rapids]

I didn't know this, but funnily enough I consider that to have good music

[pulsar granite]

Wolfenstein 2 ost is goated too bad the music is too low volume in game

[hard thistle]

I also don't know how to name any TDA song.

But I never bothered to look them up lmao. Same with Eternal, I only know one song by name

[shrewd mountain]

Wolfenstein had a far different tone and gameplay style, it would not fit to have argent metal over it

[placid rock]

i dont think theres a better description for that than this comment right here lmao

[pulsar granite]

People stop calling mick gordon doom, the true doom is the classic game ost imo

[hard thistle]

can i guess what the one song you know is?

[shrewd mountain]

Same problem with TDA

[hard thistle]

Go for it

[hard thistle]

only thing they fear is you

[pulsar granite]

CAN'T FUCKING HEAR IT

[shrewd mountain]

Doom 1993 had some forgettable gems

[pulsar granite]

E1m6 ost is goated

[hard thistle]

Yep
Been listening to it long before I even consider playing Eternal, like years lol. It was in so many memes

[frail bloom]

Hey someone should convert tda ost to midi it would fit pretty well

[hard thistle]

So fucking annoying bcs the sounds are so loud

[shrewd mountain]

OST IS BAD, WE NEED MICK TO COMPOSE 1993, REMOVE ALL ORIGINALITY

[pulsar granite]

Noooo

[hard thistle]

Mickey Mouse

[shrewd mountain]

Its not doom, the games not doom cause mick didn't compose it

I hate this argument so much im too passionate over it

[placid rock]

that doesnt mean anything mick gordon isnt the creator of doom

[twilit pumice]

I think Even Old Blood and The New Order have that issue.
There's not much for sound settings. In TNO it's literally just master volume.

[vital rapids]

It would be nice to hear what Bobby Prince could do to improve on the music in 2016/Eternal tbh

give it a bit of polish

[hard thistle]

Ye its a banger and set the standard for doom ost imo. But for me? I like bfg division more from 2016

[shrewd mountain]

I do wish D64 and Doom 3 had more metal put into it

[pulsar granite]

Hell no the new order ost are fucking sounds not music, listen to death heads theme as an example

[shrewd mountain]

But they dont need metal for those games, except maybe D64 I always play nine inch nails or linkin park over it when I play

[hard thistle]

BFG Division is also neat. I also like 2016's Damnation/Kadingir Sanctum theme a lot

[shrewd mountain]

So is 2016 to an extent

[pulsar granite]

https://youtu.be/UX7Wcs8lR30?si=u5bI2tlS7or0oqy_

[hard thistle]

I don't need metal for D64, I like the desolate sounds

[vital rapids]

NiN is definitely solid old id game music
for the authentic experience

[hard thistle]

Yk its bad when you fucking have doom music for your good morning alarm. My parents would always complain about it bcs its so loud lmao

[pulsar granite]

This shit feels like your headphones are broken I cant

[shrewd mountain]

Playing doom 64 with NiN, linkin park and everescence goes insanely hard

[twilit pumice]

I believe I prefer Mick's work on Wolfenstein over Doom.

[hard thistle]

omfg damnation is so tuff. Especially in gym (i rate all my favorite doom osts by how good they are in gym)

[shrewd mountain]

ALSO PLAYING THE DOOM 2005 SOUNDTRACK OVER DOOM 3 IS TIER

[twilit pumice]

I'll listen to it again

[shrewd mountain]

That movies ost is so damn fun I love it

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-goodness-gracious-doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-thira-gif-14544958189392515884

Wtf man

[shrewd mountain]

I dont trust anyone that says doom 2005 is a bad doom movie 🙏

[hard thistle]

reminds me of the battlefield 2042 ost

[placid rock]

i loved that movie

[hard thistle]

YES.

[brazen heron]

I did not play any Wolfenstien game ever lmao

[buoyant raft]

i js finished doom tds after the survival of denuvo error. absolute cinema

[pulsar granite]

Missing out

[shrewd mountain]

Doom annihilation is a guilty pleasure of mine

[vital rapids]

unparalleled genius

[brazen heron]

I am not a fan of military settings

[frail bloom]

Funny how a couple of months ago ppl called it woke now they wanna do sh*t like this

The duality of man

[brazen heron]

Also come on we have the Slayer,he is way hotter

[shrewd mountain]

Its less military and more cyber-nazi

[pulsar granite]

I remember people calling it doom the dishwasher ages 💔

[shrewd mountain]

Its like doom, but with nazi's

[hard thistle]

Yeah people say it's a bad doom film because it's very unfaitfhul to the source material.

It mostly is. But I call everything that has the name 'DOOM' a doom film and I only care about the film is bad by itself or not, 'it's a bad/good doom property' implies that the source material is not allowed to take risks and change

[vital rapids]

The moonbase in Wolfenstein. Dual-wielding through it

[frail bloom]

Godamn Hmmp

[pulsar granite]

Stupid fucking hmmp

[hard thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/karl-urban-nervous-raphael-van-helsing-gif-12517076

[shrewd mountain]

The doom movies were pretty faithful minus the slayer

[brazen heron]

Most DOOM enemies aren't hitscan

[hard thistle]

im a man of culture, KAHN MAYKR.

[pulsar granite]

This guy sucks so bad at tda and eternal he went back to 2016

[hard thistle]

billy butcher??

[shrewd mountain]

Either way wolfenstein is tier

[brazen heron]

Tier...what?

[shrewd mountain]

I did like the genetic take on doom demons, it was a fun concept, it still had hints of it being from hell so it still counts in my book

[hard thistle]

We got hell knight (one of my favorite demons) and Pinky in there, and Mars fo course, but it mostly was its own thing. But it had some pretty good scenes, and Karl Urban and The Rock were actually good. Like, The Rock's performance feels like the opposite of what people are saying about his roles now

[brazen heron]

KHAN Maykr?Star Trek reference?

[hard thistle]

And of course, the FPS scene. The glorious one.

[pulsar granite]

Wait a goddamn second... How old is thira compared to doom slayer

[shrewd mountain]

People want a grounded doom story with normal marines
But complain when I show them doom 3, ressurection of evil, lost mission
Doom 2005
Doom annihilation
Any doom novel

[shrewd mountain]

They could be the same age ngl

[twilit pumice]

Um, yeah. Still good.
Don't forget Deathshead is the one responsible for these mechanical abominations. And the scene that this song plays.
Plus it's a ambient track with digital screams of suffering.

[shrewd mountain]

Remember doomslayer isn't eons old yet

[pulsar granite]

Isn't doom slayer billions of years old in eternal

[shrewd mountain]

In eternal, yes, not in TDA

Thiras most likely dead

[pulsar granite]

Man I wonder how far apart tda is from 2016

[brazen heron]

In TDA he just got powered up by the divinity machine

[shrewd mountain]

No clue how tf valen survived those eons :/, maybe hell has weird aging properties

[hard thistle]

who knows, i highly doubt they're gonna give us any details other than "she an adult"

[shrewd mountain]

Eons, literal eons

[hard thistle]

well tbf he does look much older in eternal

[shrewd mountain]

She looks between mid 20s to early 30s

[pulsar granite]

How long was bro in the tomb

[shrewd mountain]

Yea but hes supposedly the same age as the slayer

[shrewd mountain]

EONS, MILLENIA

[brazen heron]

In TDA,Slayer is nowhere full power

[shrewd mountain]

But hell time is different from earth, hell isn't fixed

[pulsar granite]

Tbh, I think thira will die in the expansions

[hard thistle]

agreed agreed

[shrewd mountain]

Hell isn't bound by time, but things happen chronologically

[hard thistle]

You watch your mouth boy.

[pulsar granite]

Thira has skill issue. Imagine getting trapped by asscrack

[shrewd mountain]

Every sentinel should be dead

Novik is dead, thira should be dead
Valen is alive somehow
The rest of the original sentinels should be dead

[brazen heron]

I like nobody respects that guy(The prince) and mocks his name all the time lol

[hard thistle]

when was this said

[pulsar granite]

Novik is in eternal tho

[shrewd mountain]

He was in hell the same amount of time the slayer spent in the sarcophagus

[pulsar granite]

"They are no longer your people to save"

Novik, eternal

[shrewd mountain]

He's a ghost

[pulsar granite]

Thira ghost when

[shrewd mountain]

Ghosts have different holograms to alive sentinels

Novik had more of a soul river glow

[graceful lion]

its a part of his consciousness or someting

[shrewd mountain]

Valen had the same hologram as the new hell priest, mr lisp

[hard thistle]

oh definitely a time thing with hell maybe

[shrewd mountain]

He put himself in exile in hell, and hell is outside of time itself

[pulsar granite]

Did you fr look up thira in r34

[hard thistle]

speaking of ghost...hear me out on hologram woman in doom eternal

[shrewd mountain]

Shes a bitch and I hate her, but she has a fat ass

[hard thistle]

i wont confirm or deny such allegations upon my name

[pulsar granite]

No. No. No. That is the most annoying fucking character

[vital rapids]

I have to leave for a minute, be right back

[hard thistle]

You, bro, i wish you nothing but the best in life, just for this sentence

[pulsar granite]

Why did bro reply?

[hard thistle]

but shes hot

[pulsar granite]

No she's not

[shrewd mountain]

Corn addicts

"Do you think the doomslayer will save you

Ahh hologram

[shy horizon]

yes i can

[hard thistle]

Thas a lie!

[hard thistle]

W

[shrewd mountain]

I can imagine she was given immunity by hell and so she just ragebaits in an office using holograms

[pulsar granite]

Is thira racist

[vital rapids]

sorry had to quickly do some research on something. Was successful
idk probably research on trees or something

[pulsar granite]

Bro looked up thira r34

[shrewd mountain]

Shes voiced by Deborah wilson

[empty sable]

Nah, she's black lol

[brazen heron]

Average Thira fan vs Average Slayer Enjoyer

[shrewd mountain]

Tbh if hell did invade earth, some people would certainly act like the UAC hologram woman on tiktok

[warm comet]

TDA is my favorite doom game
Eternal is amazing, but I'm still a sucker for parrying in games

[shrewd mountain]

Eternal with parrying would just straight up be ultrakill

[vital rapids]

what the. How dare- I've never been so.

[twilit pumice]

I thought the UAC thic ass bitch was a corrupted AI through Hell's influence

[brazen heron]

Some western "liberals" wills say it's a good thing and Humanity is getting punished for their crimes

[hard thistle]

i hope you get a wife who's a clone of thira

[shrewd mountain]

Ooh so she's like evil cortana

[shrewd mountain]

They would act like they are there to cleanse the woke people, while being part of the hell invasion

[hard thistle]

ghost of tsushima and the arkham games made me love parry/counter systems

[shrewd mountain]

The red side I mean

[warm comet]

My sekiro brain is what makes me love TDA

[twilit pumice]

Evil Thicc AI that shitposts and rage bait. Whilst Slayer is trenched in demon blood listening to his mix tape

[brazen heron]

"The mortally challenged has arrived to liberate humanity form their sins of racism and homophobia" or some shit

[sonic turret]

Who?

[hard thistle]

bro i wanna play sekiro so bad. only souls game im interested in

[shrewd mountain]

Both sides would fight eachother even tho the demons would kill both of them

[vital rapids]

There would be no war. The powerful would usher hell in, make money in the process, and silence, imprison or kill any internal opposition

[sonic turret]

Olivia Pierce?

[hard thistle]

doom eternal, the blue woman that showed up nearly every mission

[vital rapids]

Demons have money

[brazen heron]

No sane human regardless of ideology would prefer the hellish invaders

[hard thistle]

g she was a human...

[shrewd mountain]

Eternal hologram

[sonic turret]

Oh, the AI, yeah.

[twilit pumice]

Not Olivia. Referring to the UAC AI in Eternal

[shrewd mountain]

Elon Musk fans

Oh wait you said sane

[warm comet]

Sekiro is the best game fromsoftware has made

[brazen heron]

Fan of any very rich influential figure really

[hard thistle]

couldn't agree more

[sonic turret]

I've never played any of them, but I remember watching the giant monkey reactions lol.

[shrewd mountain]

I wonder how the wolfenstein nazis would react to a hell invasion

Probably make nazi demons

[sonic turret]

They'd probably be in league with them. 🤷

[hard thistle]

Nazis hate everyone who isn't like them

[hard thistle]

they'd get demolished, but probably fight to the last man

And they are very restrictive on what makes a 'good citizen' so I guess they'll go to war.

In that case: LET THEM FIGHT

[shrewd mountain]

Doomslayer vs new order game pls 🙏

[hard thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/let-them-fight-dr-ishiro-serizawa-godzilla-let-them-duke-it-out-let-them-have-a-brawl-gif-6856896947829310487

[brazen heron]

They might utilize the argent or hell energy,they also might use this as an excuse to hate foreigners and certain groups even more

[shrewd mountain]

I want a wolfenstein game with the slayer demolishing the fourth reich

And the nazis watching in horror

And no, I dont mean a blazkowicz slayer connection

I mean a universe crossover

[brazen heron]

I don't think Slayer would care

[shrewd mountain]

DAWG, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SLAYER

OFC HE WOULD CARE

[brazen heron]

He fought against literal forces of Hell,he saw way worse shit

He would be indifferent,he is too busy

[shrewd mountain]

Hell is a mindless horde, nazis are thinking humans

He would demolish them just for existing

[twilit pumice]

I've actually had more fun with Final Fantasy Stranger of Paradise and how little I played of Nioh compared to my time with fromsoft games.
Love both dev teams.

[shrewd mountain]

The doomslayer was human, most likely had WW2 happen in his universe

[hard thistle]

that's true, but he's shown to care about and defend his people/sentinels so he'd still do his thing

[wooden leaf]

Absolutely despise the new revenant

[hard thistle]

Makes it even worse in a way

Doomboi specifically hated Hell Priests for being hell-affliliated and consciously choosing Hell's side.

He'd detest Nazis too.

[shrewd mountain]

He hates corporate overlords and the UAC

[brazen heron]

"Hell is a mindlesss horde" ABSOLUTELY no.You are talking about evil incarnates,they are very smart

[shrewd mountain]

He would hate a facist dictatorship just as much

[hard thistle]

he'll probably would need some getting use to killing people

[twilit pumice]

I mean there is his great, great grandfather

[hard thistle]

Some purely evil characters are also very stupid.

[shrewd mountain]

Hell IS a mindless horde controlled by a demon hiarchy

[shrewd mountain]

HE KILLS PEOPLE ALL THE TIME

[brazen heron]

2016 Hell literally uses UAC as an gateway ,they are smart and manipulative

[real crater]

i just saw someone call argent d'nur "argentina"

[shrewd mountain]

The slayer is not confirmed to be related to blazkowicz

[hard thistle]

It's because some fuck at UAC opened their gates

[hard thistle]

when? ion remember him killing people

And they already had Demons on Mars before the big invasion because of UAC members experimenting on them like the asshats they are

[shrewd mountain]

Hell priests, cultists

[hard thistle]

now imagine my surprise returning to chat and this the first message i see

[shrewd mountain]

They aren't demons they are demonically corrupt

[hard thistle]

both demons

[brazen heron]

Slayer never hurt an actual regular human so far

[shrewd mountain]

So are nazis (half joking)

[hard thistle]

same thing

[shrewd mountain]

THE CULTISTS ARENT DEMONS OMG...

[pulsar granite]

[twilit pumice]

Gonna tag you in screenshot section to explain myself

[pulsar granite]

Doom 2 secret levels have nazis

[brazen heron]

Except that one time he punched his commander

[shrewd mountain]

First thing you do in TDA is kill humans

[hard thistle]

um yeah we were discussing if Hell and Nazis would align and I said no, because nazis hate everyone whom they don't consider 'one of them'

[real crater]

samuel hayden took on a regular human form so technically yes he did

[hard thistle]

they are corrupted by the hell, their will no longer exists

[shrewd mountain]

THEY STILL ARE HUMANS

[oak temple]

Huh?

[hard thistle]

wouldnt the demons js kill them anyway

[brazen heron]

"Humans" with a question mark

[hard thistle]

bro are you playing a different game then the rest of us?

[hard thistle]

It'd be the best for both sides to fight it out and leave no one

[real crater]

he also choked that one guy at the start of mars core by dragging his keycard to the thing

[shrewd mountain]

YOU KILL CULTISTS, WHICH ARE HUMAN

Omg yall are giving me doom headache

[hard thistle]

I did. I had to for mission challenge. No hate, just business.

[hard thistle]

doomslayer and bj blazkowicz js sitting eating popcorn on the side while it happens

[hard thistle]

they are possessed by demons, it's no longer their own will that they follow

[shrewd mountain]

Doomslayer almost killed his commander

[pulsar granite]

HELP I WANT WOLFENSTEIN 3 SO BAD

[shrewd mountain]

He sent him to pearl harbor in a body bag

[oak temple]

Doubt it'll ever happen

[shrewd mountain]

They are manipulated to follow hells command

[pulsar granite]

Indiana Jones tgc was a good replacement for a while, but I need another wolfenstein game

[real crater]

wolfenstein 3 but actually made by id

[shrewd mountain]

Anyway afk im at a hospital

[hard thistle]

yeah what I'm saying basically, they've been corrupted

[pulsar granite]

Nvidia gonna pay off again to force rt just like they did with Indiana Jones tgc an doom tda

[shrewd mountain]

They are still humans

With lives

[pulsar granite]

Y'all forgetting the nazis doomguy killed in Doom 2

[hard thistle]

when the hell did this happen

[pulsar granite]

In the secret levels

[hard thistle]

If it's human and it's depraved as hell Doomguy gonna take it out.
Would like to see Doomguy getting yeeted into the Crossed universe. Ok nvm he'd finish taking out all mutated humans in five minutes

[hard thistle]

oh my

[pulsar granite]

Map 31 and 32. And they are Canon since there is a whole fucking text before the level

"This place looks rather built by humans" or smth like that

[brazen heron]

Slayer would also hate commies too probably

[pulsar granite]

Hes from Texas prob

[shrewd mountain]

Who posted the tom hall screenshots

[pulsar granite]

Considering blazkowicz is also from Texas

[brazen heron]

Especially since he is a Polish descendant

[shrewd mountain]

Using tom hall as a basis is such a bad practice 🙏🙏🙏

[pulsar granite]

Yeah Anya is polish (blazkowicz wife)

And blazkowicz mom was polish too if I remember correctly

[shrewd mountain]

THE DOOMSLAYER ISNT CONFIRMED TO BE A BLAZKOWICZ

[pulsar granite]

It is

John romer fucking said it

[real crater]

i wonder why specifically nazis werent corrupted by hell but everything else was

[hard thistle]

I never saw those secret levels as canon personally. They always just felt like easter eggs to me

[shrewd mountain]

Yall forget the doomslayers identity was retconned in eternal

[honest vortex]

Damn even big account people on Twitter who hated Eternal are calling Eternal a "masterpiece" compared to Dark Ages

[shrewd mountain]

Hugo won't even confirm it

[brazen heron]

Don't tell us he is a argentan or something

[pulsar granite]

There was a fucking cyber demon in that level.

[shrewd mountain]

He's not, duh

[hard thistle]

Dunno how much that means, big twitter accounts just yap sometims

They're not the arbiters on what is good and bad doom really

[brazen heron]

Midwitter moment

[shrewd mountain]

People also think his name was flynn but that was also retconned

[real crater]

nazis are immune to hell corruption this is big news

[pulsar granite]

Flynn White

[pulsar granite]

Hell is in wolfenstein 3d tho

[hard thistle]

You can't corrupt what is already evil

[shrewd mountain]

It could still be flynn, and he could still be related to blazkowicz, its not confirmed

[pulsar granite]

Blazkowicz fought the angel of death

[shrewd mountain]

Do not use Tom hall as proof, hes not a reliable source

[pulsar granite]

In spear of destiny, and he went to hell to fight him

[twilit pumice]

I do want to read those comics.
I know most are turned away from it for it's contents

[real crater]

it was funny to find out that tom hall got fired for writing the doom bible

[pulsar granite]

And it's possible nazis in wolf3d were already corrupted since it was said that the angel of death gave the spear to Austrian painter

[shrewd mountain]

The doom comic was retconned

People always forget that 🙏

[brazen heron]

Nazis operate outside of abrahamic or similar moral compasses,basically peak sociopathy

[hard thistle]

I've read Crossed volume one. I hear the later ones are much worse but I hear that volume one is also one of the more serious.

Well it was so over-the-top depraved that I found myself scoffing anyway. Not disturbed at all. It's vile as fuck but there's a point where something is so gory and depraved it just becomes silly and edgy for the sake of it

[pulsar granite]

@hard thistle

[hard thistle]

Doom is also over-the-top but I give it points for being sufficiently self-aware mostly lol

[twilit pumice]

Yeah, and crossed does become edgy silly.

[hard thistle]

Interesting

[shrewd mountain]

Its not even confirmed in the beginning

[pulsar granite]

Man imagine if they remake wolf3d

[shrewd mountain]

The doomslayer COULD be related to blazkowicz and commander keen, its not directly confirmed

[hard thistle]

Bro the amount of profanity those mutated yell just makes it juvenile, too. The part where ||one of the main characters puts down her infected son is not even sad, it's goofy as hell. One of the first things that kid does is yelling slurs||

[pulsar granite]

Even if not the games are still in the same universe

[brazen heron]

It's very funny BJ is like the antithesis of a pure nordic german lmao,both jewish and polish

[shrewd mountain]

That's also non confirmed

Wolf 3D is closer tied to doom than the reboot wolfenstein

[pulsar granite]

I meant wolf3d and doom

Not the modern wolfenstein reboot. There is no way they'd be the same universe

[twilit pumice]

My headcanon is that Doom Marine is a blazkowicz. But that's head canon influenced by the og Doom devs. I was the one tagging you in screenshot section
In reality, nothing has been proven 100%.

[hardy fable]

Is berserker STILL bugged on PS5???

[hard thistle]

I have not logged into the game in a while since I got 100% milestones

[hardy fable]

Just bought my last shield rune upgrade, melee is maxed and so is base shield

[pulsar granite]

They should make a Doom and wolfenstein crossover

[hard thistle]

I'm afraid there hasn't been a patch for it yet

[twilit pumice]

I think I know what you're referring to. Lmao

[pulsar granite]

Hell is Canon to the wolfenstein universe. So they could make one

[shrewd mountain]

I agree

Im not saying i dont want it, I just want to be safe

[hardy fable]

For fucksakes it’s been two weeks since the game dropped, you think an achievement would work by now lmao

[twilit pumice]

What scale of a crossover?
Cuz there is wolfenstein youngblood

[shrewd mountain]

Probably saving it for a bigger patch update

[shrewd mountain]

That didn't tie anything to doom, people say it does but it rly doesn't

[pulsar granite]

It's not a crossover, nothing doom related is in that game

[hardy fable]

Blue balling my plat trophy 💔💔💔

[pulsar granite]

And then reboot wolfenstein and doom aren't even the same universe. It's wolf3d and doom

[shrewd mountain]

The only doom related thing in the reboot is the cacodemon dog plush

[twilit pumice]

I know, it's really just a slight mention.
Again nothing 100% yet

[hard thistle]

It's really silly yeah. It is undoubtedly vile and I understand that some people get sickened by the comic's contents, but like I said, there's a moment where something is so violently over-the-top that the best course of action is to no longer take itself seriously.

DOOM 2016 did over-the-top violence well by at least being sufficiently self-aware, especially shown by Doomguy's behavior towards Hayden. Doom 2016 doesn't take itself too seriously, doom in general has always been campy

[pulsar granite]

Hell is Canon only in wolf3d. Not in the reboot trilogy

[shrewd mountain]

Not rly, he just mentioned there were was a multivsrse

Didn't say anything about doom even remotely

[pulsar granite]

It did mention the wolf3d universe which is the same a doom

[twilit pumice]

Yeah, I haven't played youngblood since release.

[pulsar granite]

Either way, the only way to revive the wolfenstein franchise is either with a Doom crossover or a wolf3d remake imo.

[shrewd mountain]

He mentioned a "better" world
And doom is FAR from that

[hard thistle]

sentinels*
but demon corrupted, which cannot be reversed. Not the same as a regular human being

I love how as far back as in original doom the game says funny things when you pick up certain weapons and when you beat certain levels. Nice camp.

I did feel Dark Ages was one of the more serious entries and even that had its funny moments

[shrewd mountain]

SENTINELS ARE HUMANS OMFG

[hard thistle]

no.

[shrewd mountain]

YES, ITS CONFIRMED

[hard thistle]

where?

[shrewd mountain]

SINCE FUCKING ETERNAL

[hard thistle]

where?

[pulsar granite]

In a dream he had

[shrewd mountain]

There is sentinel architecture in hell on earth in the first mission, the arctic has sentinel ruins,

[pulsar granite]

No but fr. The codex prob

[twilit pumice]

Doom always had Evil Dead Energy to me.

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/escape-from-castle-wolfenstein-wolfenstein-wolfenstein-dos-wolfenstein-escaping-wolfenstein-yeah-gif-1941173386239152500

[hard thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/source-i-made-it-up-jarvis-iron-man-tony-stark-gif-573727876722239845

[twilit pumice]

Ragebait used to be real. Lol

[pulsar granite]

Now that I think about it

A wolf3d remake can also be a Doom crossover. They can just give it a hell section with doom demons before the angel of death fight

[hard thistle]

@hard thistle are sentinels the same species as humans?

[brazen heron]

Argentans are the precursors of humans,but TDA makes it complicated

[twilit pumice]

Summoned thy

[pulsar granite]

The lore god isn't being summoned

[real crater]

argentinians

[hard thistle]

lore god in gym probably

[shrewd mountain]

Ahzrak directly says "focus on breaking humans first"

[pulsar granite]

Lore god jorking it prob

[shrewd mountain]

Sentinels are a precursor to modern humans

They have tribes all over mars and earth

The sentinel religion might still be practiced in eternal

They had a church in hell on earth with sentinel buildings

[pulsar granite]

Whatever, is doom 3 Canon? I personally think so since the soul cube appears in 2016 and betruger is mentioned in 2016 lore

[shrewd mountain]

Yknow the giant bell? That's argentan

[shrewd mountain]

Yes and no, its not the same universe but it exists within the grand multiverse

[sonic turret]

Yes and no. Biologically, it can be said that we're related to them, however since they're from a different universe, we're not their direct descendants, more like parallel would-be descendants.

[hard thistle]

I only trust lore guy, till he arrives we wait

[pulsar granite]

He gooning to thira

[brazen heron]

Humanity from classic DOOM is well...DOOM'ed.

[real crater]

calm down

[hard thistle]

badum tss

[shrewd mountain]

If anything, doomslayer is the only alien

[pulsar granite]

[twilit pumice]

He's probably gonna kill us with a panzer tank shell

[shrewd mountain]

Its like superman race and humans, almost entirely the same

Doomslayer is human but not argentian human

[hard thistle]

ik this

[sonic turret]

Precisely.

[brazen heron]

Mankind in modern DOOM is not the same from the classics

[hard thistle]

it's still a version of mankind, sentinels are aliens

[pulsar granite]

Remember when Hugo said tda was gonna be like a classic doom game? That aged like absolute milk

[shrewd mountain]

The sentinels are the same race as the humans from 2016 uac

It's undeniable

[hard thistle]

like cryptonions or viltumites

[shrewd mountain]

It kinda is, aged like wine

[pulsar granite]

Imo the closets game to classic doom is 2016.

[real crater]

doomguy is from earth c-137 there are several other earths with different species of humans

[shrewd mountain]

no???

[sonic turret]

They're genetic replicas, however they're coming for parallel dimensions that have no direct genetic relationships between the two. Possibly they have a common ancestor, however they aren't closely related other than their incidental genetic similarities.

[delicate grotto]

In terms of grounded combat it is

[hard thistle]

we wait for lore guy

[shrewd mountain]

Modern humans in 2016 are directly descendant to sentinels

[pulsar granite]

The motherfucking shield

[hard thistle]

just someone ping me whenever he answers, I'm fine with being wrong

[hard thistle]

Yes.

[sonic turret]

In 2016, yes because it's the same universe.

[delicate grotto]

I agree here though. I wish it stayed a little more rooted to that than what we got but, still happy to see more of that dark atmosphere return in TDA.

[shrewd mountain]

Yay I was right

[hard thistle]

well there we have it

[hardy fable]

have you played classic doom before? Lmao

[shrewd mountain]

Me with proof...
You needed mono

[hard thistle]

Sentinels are humans. Sentinels are just humans but way in the past. Ahzrak outright calls them humans in TDA.

[pulsar granite]

I started with doom 64

[shrewd mountain]

I SAID THIS DIRECTLY 🙏🙏

[pulsar granite]

Tbh if tda didn't have all the parry slop it would actually be like classic doom

[shrewd mountain]

Parry slop?

[hard thistle]

sry, mono has like 250 gazillion pages of doom documents. Trust him slightly more

[shrewd mountain]

Lmao just dont parry, then you got classic doom experience

[hardy fable]

😭

[brazen heron]

Bro you are lucky you didn't come here when the game first released

[shrewd mountain]

You literally control the buttons you press

[delicate grotto]

I thought Sentinels were more advanced than the humans on (Eternal’s) Earth?

[hard thistle]

Also yeah keep in mind I'm saying this because of the same proof Yoink brought up. I don't have any special room for insight that you guys don't. I work off the same source material you do. The proof won't be magically better or worse depending on who brings it up.

[shrewd mountain]

IM USING THOSE PAGES BROTHER

[frail bloom]

Tbf some bosses require yu parry

[pulsar granite]

Are we not gonna talk about how, uhhh, the final boss is basically unbeatable without parrying?

[hard thistle]

yeah it kinda is parry slop

[hardy fable]

Then it’s not slop it’s a game mechanic

[hard thistle]

Technology-wise yes. Sentinels and humans are the same species, not the same culture or society.

[delicate grotto]

Gotcha

[hard thistle]

wouldn't know, sorry

[hardy fable]

bait used to be believable. 😭😭

[sonic turret]

However it really depends which universe you're looking at it from. When as a human, standing in the classic Doom universe, the Argenta are only incidentally genetically related, as they exist in a different universe.

[hard thistle]

Slop has become meaningless

[shrewd mountain]

Turn player damage low and play on aspiring slayer

[pulsar granite]

I'm not saying parrying is a bad mechanic, it just feels different from the previous games

[pulsar granite]

Nah I play on 150% nightmare

[hardy fable]

She slop on my parry

[real crater]

a lot of enemies are pretty much unbeatable without parrying because they'll keep on hitting you if you choose not to block

[frail bloom]

Ye so is doom 2016 gun slop? The word slop makes no sense in this context

[shrewd mountain]

Humans from 1993 doom aren't sentinels

[sonic turret]

You'd probably have to go further back to arrive at a common ancestor.

[sonic turret]

Exactly.

[pulsar granite]

Anything lower than 150% uv is boring icl

[sonic turret]

Now you're getting it.

[shrewd mountain]

Unless you are a tiktok doom content creator and think TDA predates 1993

[pulsar granite]

I kinda like the parry mechanic, I just don't think it makes the game like classic doom

[hard thistle]

Humans in 1993 Doom could be Sentinels. The Sentinels learned how to hop universes. For all we know they are also the descendants of Sentinels who went into that universe and became humanity. Just like in 3.

[sonic turret]

No, 1993 came before the Dark Ages.

[hardy fable]

man receives magic powers and kills hordes of demons, returns back to 1993 earth and tells no one

[hard thistle]

so did humans come to exist on a completely different planet originally and somehow ended up on earth or the other eay around?

[shrewd mountain]

Sentinels could've existed before 1993s universe

[hardy fable]

I think the classic dooms take place in the 2020s tho I can’t remember

[sonic turret]

Could be is just speculation, I'm interested in what is when it comes to Doom lore.

[brazen heron]

At this point argentan-human distinction might be useless

[pulsar granite]

Correct

[shrewd mountain]

Maybe also they could be doom 3 humans

[brazen heron]

TDA calls them humans straight up

[pulsar granite]

And doom 3 takes place in 2145 and 2016 a couple of years after I think

[shrewd mountain]

They are humans, the culture is called sentinels

It's not fucking hard to grasp

[hard thistle]

Sentinels started on Argent D'Nur. They migrated to other planets. Hebeth was one. Then the Bethians moved onto Earth. From them came modern humans.

[hardy fable]

Argentan Human distinction is like European American distinction

[sonic turret]

As far as I know, there's no lore specifying that there were Argenta in the 1993 universe, although we can't rule out what hasn't been written, we just have to postpone judgement until we know for sure.

[shrewd mountain]

Saying the species is called argentians is like calling humans "the Chinese race"

[hardy fable]

Wasn’t hebeth on mars?

[pulsar granite]

Chieng Chen hanji kitchen in the dungeon I gonna touch paul my mama want lovely

[hard thistle]

cuz when assrak called them humans I interpreted it as them looking exactly like humans and he just called them that considered they knew about humans long before sentinels

[frail bloom]

@hard thistle what do yu think of the soldier entries do they make sense or do I need some adjustments
#artwork message
#artwork message

[sonic turret]

They're from Argent D'nur, that's the planet where they reside.

[hoary heron]

Imagine the Slayer going back in time and meeting his younger self, wonder how that conversation would go: DSM: "... ?" Slayer: "... nod" DSM: "nod"

[pulsar granite]

You forgot prince asscrack is a fucking drunkhead

[hard thistle]

oh okay so dooms universe is literally completely different then ours

[real crater]

slayer would look like a brick wall and doomguy would hump him tryna find a secret

[pulsar granite]

"unf"

[sonic turret]

I guess it's just for 8ur benefit so that we know that he's talking about the humanoid race as we see them in the games. Remember, he's likely not even speaking in English in the lore, it's just for the benefit of our understanding.

[shrewd mountain]

Yes but they are human

[hardy fable]

“Unf”
“No”
“Unf”
“Run”

[hard thistle]

Yeah no, it is just the same species. If they were different species humans would not exist during TDA. Since it takes place over 60 million years before Eternal.

[shrewd mountain]

And they had other clans and races, hebethians are sentinels

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[hard thistle]

so the original humans from og doom were also sentinels? which means doomguy is also a sentinel?

[shrewd mountain]

Wouldnt we be called "earthians" by that logic???

[sonic turret]

Humanoid, yes. However we need to be able to seperate them from humans of Earth, as we know them.

[hardy fable]

Get VEGAd

[pulsar granite]

Fuck you vega

[real crater]

yes

[hard thistle]

eternals humans wouldn't exist yeah, but og doom took place before tda where humans did exist, so the demons amd assrak would know of em

[real crater]

earthians is a good name

[hardy fable]

Where the FUCK is this last wolf on the Kar-whatever marshes

[hoary heron]

Remember how in 2016, they had classic levels you could play with 2016's guns and enemies. That'd be cool if they did the same with TDA in the ID Tech 8 engine.

[twilit pumice]

@hard thistle
M0no, do people always ping you stead of going to your lore guide? Typically if I'm curious I'll look through your guide. Nothing wrong with lore discussion

And there's been a few times where I'd ping you, but it's to discuss stuff that isn't 100% or something I thought of. Like Blazkowicz bloodline or Elizabeth in Doom 3 secretly being under hell's influence

[real crater]

in the kar'thul marshes

[hard thistle]

We don't know when it comes to the OGs. It's up to you. I think they are Sentinels who universe-hopped.

[hardy fable]

where is the wolf bruh 😭😭😭

[pulsar granite]

Auuuu

[hardy fable]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-emo-wolf-werewolf-transform-gif-27196401

[hard thistle]

The guide is very long and it is difficult to sift through it for info. Most people just ping and ask me.

[hard thistle]

based serrat pfp

[frail bloom]

M0no I needs yur wisdom

[hardy fable]

Ewsdom

[hard thistle]

I mean it's in his name to ping him, sure he don't mind

[frail bloom]

Sjhhh

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-unpog-gif-8033619785015707160

[hardy fable]

Sjhhh

[hard thistle]

ah so no official lore, all speculation at this point

[sonic turret]

The guide is just a guide, it's not set in stone and contains a lot of speculation rather than absolute facts, and new information emerges over time.

[hoary heron]

it looks like serrat is making a troll face

[twilit pumice]

Yeah, tbf, it does have 200 or 250 pages of lore.
But that autism in me wants to read every last bit

[hard thistle]

holy shit it does

[real crater]

rest in final battle serrat

[pulsar granite]

Rip serrat

[foggy breach]

What gender is Serratt?

[sonic turret]

It's a long standing game franchise.

[twilit pumice]

Oh, I know. I don't try to treat M0no as some messiah. Doom lore is always bound to change. We're merely speculating

[pulsar granite]

Serrat is serrat

[hard thistle]

dragon

[real crater]

cute

[hardy fable]

||dead||

[pulsar granite]

The gender doesn't matter

[real crater]

that is not ok

[vital rapids]

Hebeth on Mars is basically New Hebeth

[limpid coral]

Whats the best tactic for these new type of enemy ||witches thing in cosmic realm?||

[sonic turret]

M0no can obviously pick up on new information a lot faster than he can update the guide, whuch is why it's often better to ping him, rather than to sift through.

[shrewd mountain]

Male, did you see hes packing??

[hardy fable]

shoot it until it dies

[pulsar granite]

Yo yo yo 148 3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9 representing the abq word up biatch leve it tone

[twilit pumice]

I do admire M0no's passion towards this beloved series we here all hold dear

[sonic turret]

The problem is with id, in that they often leave a lot of plot holes, gaps in the narrative or unanswered questions.

[hard thistle]

shieldsaw stun-lock it bcs those annoying mfs love flying everywhere

[shrewd mountain]

Mono is the master, im the messenger

[hoary heron]

I like it when his dragon feet just hang and flail about in the air aimlessly

[frail bloom]

Guys I needs yur opinions on these
#artwork message
#artwork message
#artwork message
#artwork message
#artwork message

[shrewd mountain]

More like I argue when someone is wrong

[frail bloom]

I am trying to show off a cool idea

I would post normally but there's no image posting on this tab

[pulsar granite]

How can I convince someone to play Doom 3

[twilit pumice]

Wolf3d Hitler is the son of Ahzrak

[pulsar granite]

Hits hard

So that's why the angel of death trusted Hitler to give him the spear

[hoary heron]

Tell them Karl Urban and The Rock make an appearance in the game.

Which is totally not true, but it'd still be funny

[vital rapids]

Tell them they get a free TDA skin if they play for an hour

[foggy breach]

Felt so happy and angry beating the shit out of Azhrak after Serrat's demise

[pulsar granite]

Did

[frail bloom]

THIS IS WHY YU DON'T DELETE THE SPOILERS CHAT

ARRHGHGHGHG

[sonic turret]

They shouldn't need convincing, the game speaks for itself, although you can find ways of relating it to other stuff that they like.

[hoary heron]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-denzel-my-man-denzel-washington-myyyy-man-gif-376647294737879812

[pulsar granite]

They said the game is ass and xonotic is better

[sonic turret]

Their loss.

[pulsar granite]

Like bro what

how can you say xonotic has better graphics than doom 3, xonotic is worse quake 2

[frail bloom]

Most annoying part is I needs feedback

But it's drowned out

[vital rapids]

Tell them to play it at night with headphones on and the lights out. Soon they will either find it compelling or wimp out

[hoary heron]

about what?

[twilit pumice]

Why are they turned off to Doom 3?
Just tell them it plays like machine games wolfenstein and Rage except it's action horror Doom.

[pulsar granite]

Doom 3 felt so long tbh... Took me 20hrs on my first playthrough

[pulsar granite]

They watched gameplay and said everything about it is ass. I have emotional damage

[hoary heron]

Yeah and if they quit early saying it's boring, you can then say that they're just making excuses because they're a wuss and the game scared them.

[frail bloom]

Some ideas I had for the next game
I would post somewhere epse but they deleted the room I'd post in
#the-dark-ages message

[pulsar granite]

Everyone remember the lamp section in Doom 3..
Shit was terrifying

[vital rapids]

Can you not just look down on their taste in games from now on? Works for me

[twilit pumice]

Do they have gamepass?
If so, have them to try it themselves

[pulsar granite]

They came back to me and asked me for a reason to play it

[pulsar granite]

They're pirates bruh

[hoary heron]

Oh, I don't have any critiques, I not well versed on monster design.

[frail bloom]

No not critiques like lore stuff

Like stuff I may need to change it's not aligned with lore

[pulsar granite]

Next doom 3 playthrough I am gonna shoot the lamp guy to get terryfied even more.

[hoary heron]

Demons are demons and demons do bad stuff, so anything bad they do is lore accurate.

[frail bloom]

I tried to ask m0no but he dissapeared

[hoary heron]

Example: A demon puts artificial sweetner in your coffee when you asked for pure sugar cane. Horrible...

[pulsar granite]

I wish we got a game like doom 3 again

Peak fr

[frail bloom]

At least I should be able to post images on here

[sonic turret]

They're not bad, they're just doing their job and following orders. The Wolfenstein bad guys are bad though.

[pulsar granite]

Imgur

[frail bloom]

BUT IT DOESN'T LET ME ARRGHHGHGHG

[hardy fable]

Coffee spelt backwards is eeffoC

[pulsar granite]

Use imgur links

[hardy fable]

And it’s funny

[frail bloom]

What's that

[pulsar granite]

Wym whats that

[frail bloom]

Like how do yu do that

[twilit pumice]

I'm honestly cool with it being a one off. Makes it more unique and standout amongst the other games.

[pulsar granite]

Imgur is an image posting website. You can upload an image and send the link here and it should show the image

[frail bloom]

Bro I'm on an ipad

[pulsar granite]

It was sad after I beat lost mission

[frail bloom]

Very limited too

[twilit pumice]

Doom 3 is in my top 3 Dooms

[pulsar granite]

True

[winter osprey]

Do u guys think that we will see demons like the pain elemental or Archville on the dlc?

[pulsar granite]

Resurrection of evil had a faster pace too

[hardy fable]

I hope we see Archie in the DLC

[frail bloom]

I wanna ping the mods to add a image posting thing here but idk should I

[pulsar granite]

But it was equally good as og doom 3

[frail bloom]

Hopefully

[twilit pumice]

Archvile would be fun

[winter osprey]

I want to see the pain elemental tbh

[hardy fable]

Asking ID to make a new demon and not just a reskin with some quirk for a DLC is asking a lot lmao

[pulsar granite]

Hopefully we get spider mastermind

[honest vortex]

It's just this guy hated on Eternal for years, and still said that Eternal's a masterpiece compared to Dark Ages lol.

[frail bloom]

They already did it for this game😭

[winter osprey]

Fr, but I think it would work better as an mini boss like the Cyber demon tbh

[pulsar granite]

Wait spider mastermind is the vagary

Nvm it's already there

[winter osprey]

Oh true

[sonic turret]

Not sure, I suggested having some stuff on the DLC, which Hugo liked, but no particular demons. I personally would rather see 2016s Summoner over the Archvile.

[stoic sleet]

I hope we fight davoth in this dlc

[frail bloom]

Whaahh yu talked with hugo??

[pulsar granite]

I hope we get Saul Goodman in the dlc

[frail bloom]

Like over stream???

[sonic turret]

I miss the Doom 3 Vagary with the mamary glands.

[hardy fable]

https://tenor.com/view/opinion-hear-your-opinion-seal-gif-23945632

[hoary heron]

Id releases a new game, Hugo Martin calls it a true horror survival game, equating it to Alien: Isolation. Only this time the player plays as a lone demon imp trying to make it's way back to hell in an abandonned UAC facility. It needs argent energy to survive so the longer it goes without energy the sooner it dies, but here's where the horror part comes in... The Slayer is the antagonist who is also trying to kill it. Will you survive the Slayer? Find in Doom: Imp-losion.

[winter osprey]

Maybe the summoner but with the Archville design

[stoic sleet]

Hopefully I am in the DLC

[twilit pumice]

Yeah, it's a continuation. So it doesn't need to spend much time with world setting or build up.
Fucking love the artifact. Being capable of slowing time and have near infinite berserk use

[hardy fable]

FUCK the 2016 summoner

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457

[stoic sleet]

unzips trousers

[winter osprey]

Tho I kinda missed the pain elemental lol

[pulsar granite]

She had boobs

[sonic turret]

No, he reacts to my comments on Facebook and YouTube, he said that he sees everything on social media.

[frail bloom]

What demons did yu suggest

[honest vortex]

I think their one shotting, collision scaling, wall hacking beams are pretty BS on Nightmare ngl

[winter osprey]

Hear me out, mother demon

[pulsar granite]

She is very dead from 64

[stoic sleet]

Ur saying hear me out to a demon

[hardy fable]

We already have the acolyte anyway we don’t need another flying dodging annoying piss baby in TDA

[stoic sleet]

I want unkillable ghosts in the DLC

[winter osprey]

For it to be on the dlc 😭

[sonic turret]

I prefer the 2016 Summoner because of its swift sleek design and movement. Just imagine having a possessed, empowered, buffed or even spectral version and having to track its movements.

[pulsar granite]

We need the doom 3 cerubs in the dlc

[winter osprey]

Doom 3 had cool demons tbh