the-dark-ages

[tame swift]

I’ve been waiting for a response from Bethesda support for 6 days now… what is going on with them I just need to unlink my account😭

[hard thistle]

I didn't know what to send 💔🥀

[gloomy ridge]

wolfenstein the new colossus is a really good game too

[real rampart]

okay, managed to fix the support site not working, just wanted to report a very minor thing but that is quite annoying on PC, for some reason whenever you alt tab from the game and go back to it, if you have anything binded to the ALT key, it won't register the first press

[gloomy ridge]

speaking of wolfenstein

[real rampart]

not a big deal, but quite annoying

[hard thistle]

I played Wolfenstein once long ago but I don't have it anymore

[gloomy ridge]

the lore for wolfenstein is also deep and really interesting

its a cool game, the cutscenes are very dramatic and the graphics are comparable to doom eternal

[compact hemlock]

Yep, guns cooked, definitely needs some tuning || https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9HHm0KmSrXM ||

[frank canopy]

that's so real 😭
I've been having such an annoying back and forth of wanting to first unlink stuff from my old bethesda account, to now to just straight up deleting it

[tame swift]

Why do they require you to contact support for everything! I can’t even delete the account myself

[frank canopy]

I know it's so convoluted and just inefficient

[tame swift]

I need to link my new Bethesda account cuz it has all the slayer codes and stuff on it

But I can’t because they won’t respond…

[keen vortex]

anyone else feeling the game is buggy and broken now after the patch?

[frank canopy]

it's also so dumb that you can't just manually unlink steam or xbox

[tame swift]

Yeah it’s so frustrating, I’m going to submit another ticket asking them to just delete my account

[frank canopy]

yeah I'm asking them to delete the old one because it's on an email I hardly use anymore

[tame swift]

Same

[tribal remnant]

what kind of graphics card would i need to run this game

[frank canopy]

and I forgot about it when making the new one, I could have just swapped the email 😭

[tame swift]

I know!!!! I did the same thing I’m so mad at myself but I forgot my steam was linked to a previous Bethesda account

[tame swift]

Preferably an rtx card, I just bought the dark ages 5080 bundle because I wanted to play it at max settings

I have to wait until July tho

Hopefully it ship sooner

[keen vortex]

go to google and type doom dark ages recommended specs , boom ez

[uneven mortar]

Do we know what that update was yet

[tribal remnant]

i gotta get a job

[keen vortex]

the update just broke the gam for me, i was running it smoothly now it's buggy and constant crashes

[tame swift]

I’ve heard a lot of complaints about it

[frank canopy]

what update?

I didn't get no update, at least not on steam

[keen vortex]

they released a patch a while ago

u did

[frank canopy]

oh what from the 14th?

[keen vortex]

patch dropped like 8h ago

[frank canopy]

oh

hasn't popped up for me yet lol

[keen vortex]

it was very minor i think u didnt notice

[frank canopy]

ah I haven't played it today anyways

[hard thistle]

I searched up how long is doom the dark ages and omg it's so short

[velvet elbow]

I just asked Gaben for $5 let’s see what happens

[simple mist]

In a way like a rage-baiter

But not quite

[velvet elbow]

No that’s exactly what it is

You are baiting people using rage

[uneven dragon]

it's longer than doom 3, doom 2016 and doom eternal lol

[velvet elbow]

It took me a little over 32 hours to beat the campaign

That’s like double Eternal

[simple mist]

An echo chamber of sorts no?

Like....you bait the enraged

[velvet elbow]

One way you could put it, sure

[simple mist]

Want to know a real game flop? Concorde

That game was a trainwreck

[delicate grotto]

FPS campaigns usually aren’t very long. Doom’s are longer than average tbh. TDA is free on gamepass if the $70 price point isn’t worth it to you. Understandable if not.
Personally, I think the 20-30 hours you get from these games are worth the price. They’re pure adrenaline. A lot of games have downtime that pad out those hours, not Doom. Also something to consider, TDA is getting continuous dev support throughout its lifespan.

[split gate]

If Concord was so bad, they shouldn’t make a Concord 2

Concord 2:

[simple mist]

LOOOL THEY DID THAT???

[frank canopy]

32?! Bro it only took me like 14 tf 😭

[velvet elbow]

Brother I wanted to find EVERYTHING

[split gate]

There’s news of Bungie making something

[frank canopy]

Tbf I didn't bother with the collectibles too much

[velvet elbow]

Also I asked Gabe Newall for $5 let’s see if he sends me $5

[split gate]

Like not Concord 2 exactly but something so similar and catastrophically bad it might as well be

[simple mist]

Thats a game that deserves to be called a flop

Doom TDA is (thankfully) far from that.

[velvet elbow]

It actually is in the museum of failures

[split gate]

Yes sir, every time id makes a new game, I’m reminded there’s still game developers that are genuinely having fun with their own games🙏

[velvet elbow]

:(

[split gate]

Lol, yeah I applaud Concord’s achievement for being there, well-deserved accolade

[frozen hazel]

A friend is going to play Doom Dark Ages in five minutes, wish him luck :v

[simple mist]

May they rip and tear until its done

[neat timber]

I been playing dark ages and its been peak but why is the id software logo splash loud asf

[wise lily]

Gotta admit when the shadows first lengthened is probably the best main menu music

At eternals gate is great and tbh i kinda already forgot hellwaker but idk

WTSFL is just as chunky as it needs to be for a main menu theme

[delicate grotto]

It’s not an id intro if it doesn’t nearly blow out your speakers

[wise lily]

Yk might be weird to say, but i actually hope Ids next game after dark ages isn't another doom game but maybe like a quake remake

[delicate grotto]

Genuinely had to mute my TV when booting up 2016 if I didn’t want my whole room to shake lmao

[wise lily]

I think it'd be cool for quake to have its own doom 2016

[delicate grotto]

Nah a lot of people agree with you there. Fear of Doom burnout, plus it’d be cool to see other id IPs get the Doom treatment.

[wise lily]

Mhm

I'd love to see them do a revamp of Rage cause ngl.. rage 2 was mid

[delicate grotto]

Probably the only mid id software game I can think of.

[wise lily]

Ik Rage 1 wasn't exactly the best game in the world but i loved it as a kid

[split gate]

I agree with this ending it with a trilogy for now is a great idea, love Doom but surely Quake next, it needs the love

[wise lily]

Except the knife game. The knife game actually made me nearly lose my voice in anger

[wise lily]

Yeah. They've done so many small nods to Quake that it feels almost wrong for the next Id game to not be at least some sorta Quake game

I mean the Unmakyrs reticle is literally the Quake symbol

[split gate]

Id understood that they had to look back into the roots for New Doom, so they’ll likely do the same for Quake. I have a feeling it will be a very different game

[wise lily]

I've never personally played a quake game. I just liked the enemy designs and concepts so I'd be for it

[split gate]

It’s quite similar to Doom but the atmosphere feels so different

[wise lily]

Its more of a cosmic horror vibe iirc?

Or no maybe not cosmic horror just kinda like very grungy and gritty

[split gate]

Yeah at times, it felt a bit creepy, especially the first one

Second one was more gung ho but still maintained the essence of the first

[wise lily]

Yk they put Doom 3 on ps4 but did they ever put Quake 4 on ps4? Iirc they were released around the same time frame weren't they?

[hard thistle]

😭😭

[hard thistle]

I'm on ps so I don't get the gamepass benefits but it's actually insane how gamepass has so many of the new games FOR FREE

[snow hinge]

Rage 3 needs to be linear, no open world like 2 or faux-open world like 1. That's part of why I fell off both so quickly

[terse hollow]

Gta 6 is gonna be on it pretty sure

[split gate]

Unfortunately I haven’t seen Quake 4 on the PS, I don’t think they did 😔

[terse hollow]

I know they added gta 5

[steady quail]

Good evening, please can someone help me? I haven't been able to play Doom until today. It goes to the screen where I press A to start but it doesn't go in. Xbox series X

[hard thistle]

I don't think I'm gonna get gta6 ngl I'll just get it once it's on sale or something

[wise lily]

That actually kinda sucks ngl

[terse hollow]

Yeah i think itll forsure be $100 minimum on steam and stuff

Hope not though. Can't just jump from $60 as a base price to 100$. It was $50 to $60 before so hopefully itll be less

[hard thistle]

I want games to go back to a 40-60$ price range cuz I'm not tryna spend 80-100$ on a singular game anymore

[lethal mural]

What do you guys predict civvie is likely to think of TDA?

[hard thistle]

that's so much of an investment to make

[terse hollow]

Yeah if all games start costing that much services like gamepass will just become more popular and eventually stuff would start moving to that

But then gampess and crap will start costing $30 a month or something lol

Don't know how ps plus is now, I had a ps4 for a while but I don't remeber a whole lot on it other then the ps exclusives

[lethal mural]

Yanno, within 10 years i wouldnt be surprised if consoles themselves operate on subscription basis. You buy a gaget with very little native ability and just stream from a pc somewhere

[terse hollow]

I think the real future of gaming will be vr and crap realistically

But I don't really like vr personally lol

[spark elm]

Now on chapter 14 :)

[hard thistle]

I think it's like 16$ or sum?

[uneven mortar]

Indies and true artists will always exist but AAA is on the path to bomb yes

Unless EA copyrights the concept of video games or something I guess

[still harbor]

does the game not let you chapter select after you beat the campaign?

[urban compass]

I have finally made it to the cosmic realm on un

[terse hollow]

Like Namco copyrighting minigames in loading screens then doing absolutely nothing with it

[urban compass]

I am terrified of facing barons, especially since I heard they were buffed

[terse hollow]

Fuckin shame😂

To late now, no point in a 30 second mini game

[still harbor]

or is it b/c I beat the campaign on Ultra-nightmare is that why chapter select doesnt work?

[loud gulch]

whats the patch abt?

[snow hinge]

Just general stability iirc, mostly about crashes when using the shield

[urban compass]

Fixes and increased damage of some enemies

Hunters, barons, hell knights, pinkies

[lethal mural]

ive actually been softlocked twice since the patch on ps5. Demon gates not coming down even though the area is cleared

[twilit pumice]

Which demon is the pinky?
Feel bad asking that. Lol

[uneven dragon]

the pink one :P

(in TDA it's the demon that a zombie rides on top of)

[urban compass]

They appear in the first level

I think it’s just the pinky’s bite that deals more damage

[uneven dragon]

Oh.

[twilit pumice]

That was the pinky counterpart in Dark Ages?
Didn't feel very pinky to me. Course, wind up killing the damn thing as soon as I see it. Shield throw, impaler, shield bash, impaler. Or outright kill it with the vergil blades

I thought pinky was axed in place of the new demon

[snow hinge]

I kept calling them Beast Riders even tho they're pinkies

One of the concept art for the Pinky Rider had a face that was a lot closer to the classic Pinky, I wish they'd gone with that one

[dusty dagger]

I love TDA pinky, best design out of pinky iterations imo

[urban compass]

This is better than any other pinky. I wasn’t a fan of 2016 and eternal pinkys, they feel kinda compressed

Like someone sqiushed them

[dusty dagger]

Other pinkys look like they ran head first into a wall too many times

[urban compass]

Yeah

[dusty dagger]

which is about right lmao

[snow hinge]

I thought 2016/Eternal pinkies were cute tbh

Eternal made me sad killing them because they had a lot more pain squeals :(

[dusty dagger]

Man I made a meme about the pinky designs but I cant post memes here :(

[urban compass]

Eternal made killing them way to easy

[plain iron]

Overbred pinkys 💔

[kindred summit]

What the heck

[dusty dagger]

YEAH or like Inbred. If TDA pinkys were dogs then 2016/eternal pinkys are bulldogs or pugs

[uneven dragon]

eh i mean its a pink demon that charges at you
thats kind of all it takes

[astral ravine]

I felt bad bludgeoning ahzrak
he was a cutie patootie

those words made me recoil so much

[uneven dragon]

even the quadriplegic aspect was done already in doom 3

[twilit pumice]

Doom 3 pinky design is prolly the only one I forget. Despite Doom 3 being one of my three favs.

[fringe yarrow]

Well, That's all achievements & Ultra Nightmare cleared. Was good times!

[plain iron]

Real

[mossy yacht]

Hey is there an indicator for the duration for cannabalism for the rocket?

[charred badger]

Is anyone else having trouble with Ultra Nightmare for this game?

I can slam Eternal and the DLC's on UN and carve through some heinous modded master levels, but I am about to lose my mind as I am about to start my 8th attempt where the farthest I have gotten is chapter 17.

I didn't have much issue on just a normal nightmare run apart from a death here or there. I like to think I play well and try to manage the crowds and projectiles, I always kill the little guys so they can't get me from behind, and I try to play around the demons positioning, but for some reason, there is always a moment in a run where I die nearly instantaneously.

I love the game so far but it is incredibly frustrating having to replay the beginning levels over and over.

[candid jay]

For some reason there's nothing to show that its still activated so its a bit annoying

one of the few weapon abilities in the game that would be super useful yet doesn't have an animation for it

[twilit pumice]

Actually curious about that myself.
I've been just cautious with my use of cannibalism and grenade launcher

[merry sapphire]

mayo mentioned this and it seems that they forgot to put the small moment of invulnerability when you get to 5 health. it was in doom eternal and that saved alot of my un runs

[candid jay]

Who do you mostly die from

[real rampart]

that's just my 2 cents, but I do think the game is far too long to accomodate a perma-death difficulty without making it feel frustrating on defeat

[candid jay]

I thought there was like a 3 second grace period in tda when u get to 5hp no?

[uneven dragon]

dont think so you just gotta wing it

[shadow oak]

there isn't. that's why sometimes u die suddenly. two hits back to back first one puts u to 5hp then next one kills u.

[mossy yacht]

Thanks, will go with the gut feeling haha wish the gun would glow or something

[real rampart]

even rushing through does still require some time to do optionals to get upgrades and such, and having to repeat that everytime is a bit tiring. at least on Eternal every major upgrade was pretty much on your path

[twilit pumice]

It should honestly. That's how the charged impaler works.

[candid jay]

I mean you technically can beat said difficulties if u cheat with the sliders yea? just that it wouldnt feel authentic and it might be too easy

[candid jay]

yea few of the weapons all have their own animations when the ability activates, same for pulverizer/ravager

rocket cannibalism is the only one that has nothing to indicate it

[real rampart]

theres a bar on the crosshair

[twilit pumice]

Also works with grenade launcher. Shit's Diabolical

[candid jay]

there is? i never noticed, might have to check again

[remote thunder]

yeah if you use dot crosshair, you get fucked over

[candid jay]

Ah

[real rampart]

yeah, its like the bar for the reaver, but it goes down to show you how much time you have of cannibalism

[charred badger]

It depends, One time it was a cacodemon with two whiplashes, another, it was an empowered revenant, and this most recent run, I was instantly killed by an agadon Hunter by messing up one Parry and then getting hit with a projectile in the back out of nowhere.

It really just depends.

I've had the most success playing very carefully when clearing arenas but all it takes is one little slip up and the run is over.

[surreal stag]

Hi has anyone else here gotten the issue that the achievement Berserker in game unlocks but not on Steam?

[real rampart]

they have to add a different location to show these things even if you use the dot crosshair

should be on the weapon hud icon

[charred badger]

Agreed completely, especially when you have to occasionally go out of your way to collect resources.

[real rampart]

especially on those cases yeah

[twilit pumice]

Is fully upgraded SSG good?
Barely used it thus far. Been opting more for the combat shotgun.

[loud gulch]

ok what the actual fuck hellknights oneshot on nightmare now

[real rampart]

its one of the best guns in the game

[loud gulch]

it oneshots imps, mancubi, hellknights, and generally the best close range dps gun

[real rampart]

the combat shotgun although its good costs way too much ammo and dps to do the same amount of damage as the fully upgraded ssg

[loud gulch]

thats only for the tuneup mod tho, id rather pick the flare up for armor

[real rampart]

without the triple shot then you are def not getting close to the damage of the ssg

[remote thunder]

i think impaler beats it on paper if you proc salvage on every shot but that's not realistic outside of 1v1 superheavy encounters where they can eat more than 2 shots

[real rampart]

impaler does a bit less damage unless you have a charged shot

[loud gulch]

impaler is really op against vagaries, but it struggles on ammo/reliability most of the times

[real rampart]

ssg puts out consistent damage

of course, if you are far from the target, then yeah impaler wins

[remote thunder]

13k vs 15k but impaler fires much faster

[loud gulch]

also like the falters on impaler is really busted rn, so like by the time a nerf on the gun happens most of the impaler players would just hop off

[real rampart]

fair point

[twilit pumice]

With the combat shotgun I've been trying blast and flare up.

I'm sure nightmare is much different from ultra violet

[twilit pumice]

Only use tune up depending on situation

[loud gulch]

blast and flare up is REALLY useful on nm, if i wanted armor i could just spend one ammo on fodders without relying on flails

[uneven dragon]

literally one of the top 3 guns of the game alongside chainshot and rocket launcher

[loud gulch]

and it doesnt require me to do 3 burst shots just to get armor

[real rampart]

honestly, I havent been using the combat shotgun once and I only played the game on nightmare and pandemonium so far. Its good to get some shields, but its such a small amount and so easy to lose that I prefer to blast things dead and prevent losing shield lol

I wont need shield refills if the room dies fast enough

[loud gulch]

imo the top 3 has to be
ssg
cycler
ravager

[spark elm]

I’ve now seen the cacodemon, it is quite the ugly one

[candid jay]

am I the only one who can't get back to using the combat shotgun once they unlocked ssg

[real rampart]

i am the same

I think if ID implement a way to change your class weapon faster, I would start using it more

[candid jay]

like what use is a combat shotgun even for if im only dealin wit fodders id just simply swap to smth else to be more ammo efficient and if im gonna use shotgun itd have to be ssg for higher damage

[candid jay]

o def

[real rampart]

but its like, I have to change to the shotgun class and then change the weapon, it costs too much time

[candid jay]

they should make swapping same class weapons faster

[real rampart]

yeah

[candid jay]

it just makes sense and theres no reason for it to take a while

[real rampart]

could be instant tbqh, I dont care about realism

[twilit pumice]

Think my three favs atm are
Impaler, Cycler, and combat shotgun.

[real rampart]

its just we get punished by trying to use the entire weapon class

because of the animation

[real rampart]

good kit

I go with SSG, Impaler, Cycler and Reaver

Rocket Launcher is also OP af

[spark elm]

Ayyo ballistic force crossbow is kinda crazy

[mystic crow]

Its meant to be crazy

[spark elm]

heck yeah

[real rampart]

also, anyone agrees TDA's combat shotgun is the most gorgeous combat shotgun in the series?

its just such a good looking weapon

[spark elm]

I also like the look of the super shotgun.

[real rampart]

I think both have the best designs in the series

[spark elm]

Lever action is sick too

Super shotgun even just sounds powerful. Bravo ID.

[mystic patrol]

Is there any way to dodge the blue projectiles of the cacodemon? I feel like they are way too aggressive on nightmare. When you are close to them you are kinda fucked

[mystic crow]

Super shotgun sends pretty much anything into shadow realm

[real rampart]

you need some distance to successfully dodge them

there's no reason to be so close to Caco either, his tentacles hits take a good chunk out of your health

[mystic patrol]

I usually try to distance myself from them right when they spawn, but there are some instances where I feel like it is impossible 😭

[real rampart]

and the way it looks chonk and fat makes it even more visually appealing, you know its a strong weapon just by looking at it

[merry sapphire]

the game has this system where if you get hit with a killing attack, the game reduces you to 5 hp to save yourself. the problem is that it doesnt give you a grace period, meaning if a killing attack hits you and anything else even a random small projectile hits you, you instantly die, unlike how eternal offers an actual grace period of one second. so there comes moments where your on like 70 hp and die instantly because 2 projectiles hits you. which is pretty common in this bullet hell game. hope this gets fixed because ive died too many times randomly which sucks

[merry sapphire]

sounds beautiful but honestly i prefer eternal's design. in ida it looks alot shorter. maybe thats just the pov but eh

[twilit pumice]

I like using the cannibalism perk with grenade launcher. It's way more op

[real rampart]

Cannibalism is from the Rocket Launcher

[twilit pumice]

Maybe for the moment. Still spending time with our arsenal to truly understand it. Those three I gravitate more towards but preferably try using all guns

[thin zinc]

the super shotgun in dark ages i feel is almost too powerful. you just one shot mancubuses and arachnatrons

[twilit pumice]

Oh, I know.
I meant to say, you can trigger cannibalism then swap over to grenade launcher.

[real rampart]

that works?

[twilit pumice]

Worked last time I tried

[real rampart]

huh thats curious

[candid jay]

i just rmber seeing in a tda vid with someone saying there was one but ig they were wrong then

[wheat sigil]

that 1 second grace period doesn't exist

[ocean cloak]

Yeah I haven’t turned on the visual indicator that shows if a shot is coming at you in your blind spots yet bc it feels cheap but honestly I might start using that 😂 I didn’t play eternal or 2016 last I played was doom 3 and before that 64..I started this game on ultra violence going to try nightmare after this. :D love this game. I might buy 2016 & eternal after this too

[light flower]

best doom since doom 1+2 imo

[ocean cloak]

Ultra violence feels almost too easy at times but I just want to learn the game before I go into nightmare or permadeath mode. My final goal is to beat the game in permadeath

[light flower]

same im still goin thur uv

but have dabbled in the diff setting alot

[ocean cloak]

Do you still get life sigils on permadeath?

[light flower]

surely

[ocean cloak]

That will make things significantly easier then :D

[next oar]

[uneven dragon]

if you look at doomguy's face on the HUD he looks left and right to tell you whether the shot is coming from those two directions or not at least

[ocean cloak]

Oh dang I never knew that thanks! But sometimes no enemies are around and he is still glancing around xD

I have classic face on my HUD. I like it more. Seems easier for me to see his face

[light flower]

i like to put the ui tiny, high as possible, and spread out so you only see the middle one 🤓

[ocean cloak]

I’m mad I linked my Bethesda account and did the opt in thing to get butcher skin two days ago and it never showed up in my game 😡 I only have void & divinity

[mystic patrol]

Maybe hot take: doom the dark ages is less exhausting to play for longer periods of time than doom eternal. even though these two are not comparable in my book, they both are top tier for me

[ocean cloak]

I haven’t played eternal but from what I hear it is a lot more linear and constricted than dark ages. I love the open map level design of TDA

[twilit pumice]

Same.
Beat Dark Ages on Ultra Violent last night.
Was fighting Ahzrak for two hours. Think I kept getting thrown off by his parry attack pattern. Love his character and fight. Terrified of the slayer yet tries his damnedest to best him.

[light flower]

idk this one seems to blow both of them out the water to me , but i didnt play much eternal tbh

[next oar]

eh not really

[mystic patrol]

In Eternal you have more variety regarding verticality. So the way TDA is “non linear” regarding grounded gameplay, Eternal is “non linear” in traversal imo

[twilit pumice]

Ahzrak might be one of my favorite game antagonist

[ocean cloak]

Are the maps/levels as large as they are in this game

I was honestly surprised how massive some of these levels are

[twilit pumice]

I remember the maps in eternal being tighter and more intricate

[twilit pumice]

Honestly feels like og doom to me

[mystic patrol]

Hmmm not really, but as I said, they are much more vertical. Let’s say a map in dark ages has 4 big fighting arenas. Those arenas are spanning over a large semi open world map. In doom eternal, those 4 arenas are on different levels of the same map

[ocean cloak]

Yeah this game is just so badass. I love the combos you can achieve too. The reaver chainshot is probably my favorite non-shotgun weapon. I’ve fallen in love with the flail too lol

[light flower]

this one actually reminds me of playing the old doom games which 16 and E didnt at all, thats worth alot imo.. not to shit on those but js, i loved 16 vs as well wish this had something like that

[twilit pumice]

My favorite melee thus far has been the fists

[ocean cloak]

I like the upgrades for the flail a lot

The power fist is badass too though

[light flower]

when i get the mace? just did the giant brain level

[twilit pumice]

I love it for being capable of stun locking and double damage

[ocean cloak]

interesting I will definitely play it after this :D

[mystic patrol]

I still love doom eternal, a lot, I poured like 350 hours in it. But TDA feels like a breath of fresh air in some aspects, even though I have seen many people complaining its the other way. This doom game really does what I was expecting it to do.

[light flower]

yea i came in with low expectation and i f love it

tbh

[mystic patrol]

Yep same. I tried not to hype it up that much even though I got the collectors edition, I kept my expectations low and holy cow its amazing

[ocean kraken]

same here, i glaze this game so hard and i fully admit it, easily the most fun ive ever had playing an fps game and maybe even in general if i dont count multiplayer

[twilit pumice]

Doom 2016 feels more like quake to me nowadays. Since I've played through Quake 1 and a bit of Quake 2.
I need to finish Quake 2. ):

[ocean cloak]

Honestly I been seeing complaints about the performance more than anything. Like people that can’t run the game or play at all are pretty pissed about it. I feel bad but at the same time I’m glad I upgraded my computer a few months back lol

Else I wouldn’t be playing either

[light flower]

word and nice to all

i played some quake champions kinda recently

[mystic patrol]

To be fair, they should have watched the min req. if you have a 2060 super at least, you are good to go. The game is so well optimised that Digital Foundry ran the game on a ryzen 5 2600 CPU (which cannot run most of the games nowadays) and they had no situations of CPU bottleneck.

and the min req for cpu requirements are muuuuch higher than a ryzen 5 2600.

[ocean cloak]

Oh I forgot I did hear someone complain about the music in this game. They said it wasn’t as good as eternal music. Idk I think it is badass but I have nothing to compare to

[twilit pumice]

Dark Ages might be my favorite modern doom.
I love the soundtrack. And the game focusing on Doom Slayer's melee is what I've been wanting. Getting to hear how physically strong he is, only to more focus on the guns.

Back in og Doom I'd always use chainsaw or berserk fists as much as possible

[light flower]

yea it makes my sht seem weak but at the same time it on full display 3080ti

[ocean kraken]

music in this game is amazing but its no mick gordon

[mystic patrol]

I mean, I miss mick’s argent metal too. But finishing move did an amazing job. Its heavy. It feels classic. It fits the mood. The boss encounter music is top tier

[ocean cloak]

Yeah in all honesty the requirements are not too terrible. It pains me when I see people all over YouTube saying this game is “unoptimized slop” all bc they haven’t upgraded their pc in a decade 😂

This is the smoothest most well optimized game I have played all year not even exaggerating

[light flower]

yea the rt is probably super worth it in this game even tho frames are so nice

[mystic patrol]

Yeah. People acting like doom 2016 sys specs should be running doom TDA like 10 years later. Devs didnt lie with the sys req, so I dont see what the fuss is about

[ocean cloak]

I hate to say it (not trying to sound mean) but they are either unemployed and can’t afford upgrade or they are stubborn and follow the leader of negativity any time a game releases

[sonic umbra]

yo

[twilit pumice]

When it comes to the music of Doom I think newcomers from 2016 and Eternal only want Mick and don't realize how different Doom's music has been throughout the years. Mick is incredible, but so is Andrew Hulshult and Bobby Prince.
Need to relisten to Doom 64 and 3. Love Doom 3's theme.

[mystic patrol]

Yeah. I have been unemployed at some time as well. Back when gta 5 came out, my pc ran it in 15 fps because I was way below sys req. it would have been stupid to throw tantrums at devs that let us know the gear we need to run the game. 2060 super is like 7 years old at this point

[sonic umbra]

yo

[mystic patrol]

They would die of anger if they listened doom 1&2 og soundtrack

“WHERE IS MUH 24/7 200 BPM OST”

[light flower]

i found out you can change your dlss mode within the Nvidia app, i change it to type c i think which is more for fast paced timings or some sht

[mystic patrol]

Nah, those are just other versions of dlss if your game does not have the latest version. Lets say the game is stuck on dlss 2. There you can force it to run dlss 4

[ocean cloak]

That changes the model of dlss you use. Like preset K would be newest unless they added any after K. C would be like dlss 3 instead of 4 or something like that. Basically A would be oldest version K newest

[mystic patrol]

I think dlss 4 is preset k or smth

[light flower]

nah it wasnt like that, although i cant even find it now

[mystic patrol]

Damn right

[ocean cloak]

I switched from nvidia to Radeon this year

[light flower]

i mean i found something detailing them

[ocean kraken]

is it just me or is the cycler by far the best weapon

[uneven dragon]

Bobby Price, L.A Sieben, Tom Mustaine, Jonathan El-Bizri, Josh Martel, Aubrey Hodges, Technoman, Tweaker, Clint Mansell, Frederik Wiedmann, Mick Gordon, Chris Hite, Chad Mossholder, Andrew Hulshult, David Levy, Joshua Richardson, Buckethead, James Paddock, Thorr, Xaser and Finishing Move are all Doom 🙏 🙏

(there's a very long list of composers)

[ocean cloak]

I like it for sure but my favs (so far) are reaver chainshot & both shottys

[light flower]

i have this pic saying the differences of the types

[ocean cloak]

I didn’t like pulverizor at first actually hated it lol but now with a couple upgraded & getting used to how it works I like it a lot

[light flower]

look in artwork for the dlss presets

[ocean cloak]

Only weapon that I’m not fond of is impaler

[honest vortex]

IMO, Chapter 22's combat music is better than 90% of Mick Gordon's work.

Also tbh, Chapter 22 sounds straight up like a DOOM 2016 song. Reminds me of Flesh and Metal in the 2nd half of the song.

I love all the weapons except for the plasma guns

[light flower]

-💟

[honest vortex]

The plasma guns look and sound extremely cool, but feel kinda useless

[wheat sigil]

because it's too strong?

[honest vortex]

That song has captured me even harder than the first time I heard The Only Thing They Fear is You tbh

[light flower]

its my least used

[honest vortex]

Impaler is hella fun and sounds awesome. Though it's one of the more overpowered weapons tbh

Anyway I just beat Dark Ages for the first time, and Ahzrak was a super cool final boss.

He's way cooler and more fun than the Icon of Sin and Spider Mastermind combined

[tough ridge]

its good they finally fixed the shield saw cause sometimes i died not being able to throw it

[honest vortex]

He's also way harder than both actually

[twilit pumice]

I didn't know it was that long.
I know Doom 3 was to be composed by Trent Reznor but instead it was a few of his band members.

[ocean kraken]

cant believe pinkies in the doom universe evolved to be far less cool

[honest vortex]

I sometimes still have the bug even after the patch, but I found out switching weapons seems to fix it

[uneven dragon]

yeah trent dropped out due to scheduling conflicts and "bad management"

[twilit pumice]

Was the bad management on his part due to his drug use at the time?

[light flower]

i got weapons on mouse wheel up, down, M4, M5 ,shift, c, and z

[stray matrix]

funny how raytracing forced game has sometimes worse and darker lightning in some areas compared to eternal lol

[honest vortex]

It's funny because technically they evolved to be more cool, if you think about the DOOM 1993/DOOM II to Dark Ages timeline.

But yeah they regressed in the 2016 and Eternal timeline.

[stray matrix]

there were like 2 areas in dark ages where i struggled to see properly it was so damn dark

[honest vortex]

I mean I, like the darkness as it reminds me of 2016 and 64/PSX

[stray matrix]

well i like it when i dont have to fight against proper visibility in fast paced FPS games but i understnad your preference

[tough ridge]

and not doom 3?

[honest vortex]

Wait didn't know Clint Mansell,the Mass Effect 3 composer helped with DOOM actually

[drowsy void]

Anyone know if there is a known issue with mobile series gpus (particularly the 3080 m) The game runs at 22 fps with low gpu and cpu utlization (around 30%) in addition to idle temperatures and wattage (50c average and gpu pulling 60-70w rather than the rated 165w of my gpu)

[twilit pumice]

Might depend on the version they played
I play BFG version but turn down the brightness some. Doesn't fully help.

[honest vortex]

I didn't have problems seeing the enemies in arenas, but admittedly finding secrets could be hard due to the darkness.

But I mean you can also adjust brightness settings tbf

[vast pagoda]

If you can't see the enemy I recommend glasses my child

[merry sapphire]

in eternal yes it does. maybe not 1 second but a moment of invulnrability that doesnt let you get insta killed from 2 attacks

[honest vortex]

"I didn't have problems seeing the enemies in arenas"

[twilit pumice]

Doom 3 still looks incredible to me today. Like the same way that Dead Space does.
Excellent use of lighting

[merry sapphire]

i turned on the visual indicator to the max for my pandemonium run LMAO im not trynna reset a whole playthrough. but yea you gotta try out 2016 and eternal both really different and unique games

[vast pagoda]

"If"

[honest vortex]

They feel like DOOM II Custom Megawad levels.

Feels like shit straight from Sunlust and Eviternity during the second half of the game.

[lethal mural]

And predictions about Civvies take on TDA... i still havent made up my mind on whether or not i like the new doom

[honest vortex]

Fair

[merry sapphire]

i gotta give doom 3 another chance. def gon play on bfg tho im not trynna go through that whole flashlight thing. and the visual upgrades are nice

[twilit pumice]

Just don't play on veteran. The armor is dogshit

[honest vortex]

Chapter 22 felt like a next gen DOOM 2016 Kadingir Sanctum mixed with Argent D'Nur, but with classic DOOM style secrets, exploration, puzzles, and traps.

[merry sapphire]

makes you realize just how useful the art direction in doom eternal was, by making every enemy bright as hell

[merry sapphire]

noted

[honest vortex]

I didn't really have issues seeing enemies in 2016 or Dark Ages doe

[merry sapphire]

doom 3 is the only mainline doom game i never completed. seeing the return of the vagery in the dark ages makes me wanna give doom 3 another chance

[grizzled wyvern]

The new update made my game unplayable. I’ve been stuck on a loading screen for like an hour

[vast pagoda]

Wish we would have seen a bit.. More ... of kahn makyr

[twilit pumice]

It's literally how armor works.
Armor does not negate enough damage to keep you in the fight. Like how you can on Marine and Nightmare difficulty. Nightmare cuz soul cube

[lethal mural]

if they ever blend the pace of 2016 with the tone and art style of 3 you will have one of the most intense and memorable experience in FPS

[merry sapphire]

well yeah you dont have the yeethook in these games. its also less about issues seeing the enemy and more about seeing them quicker and absorbing the information to adapt.

[merry sapphire]

"more" dawg we aint even see her the entire game

[vast pagoda]

No no. I mean More

[twilit pumice]

Some of Doom 3's art style is in Doom 2016.
Barons of hell, plasma rifle, and maybe some other stuff

[vast pagoda]

Why have I just realised that English words are spelt weirdly? More sounds.. weird and looks weird..

[merry sapphire]

i thought the dark ages pacing was fine imo. game is pretty fun to replay. the mech and dragon sections dont stay too long so i just breeze through it and enjoy the visuals and music

[ocean kraken]

omg wait i just learned that the slayer helped save serrat thats adorable, i love when he shows humanity like this

[twilit pumice]

Doom Marine is the one of the most empathetic characters in gaming imo
Poor man's seen and suffered far too much during his endless war on the demons.
He nearly committed suicide in the end of Doom 64.

[plain iron]

Real

[ocean kraken]

thats very true tbh

[plain iron]

Hes very well endeared to us, but then you get the chuds refusing the idea that he has ptsd

[hollow coyote]

when I'm using the melee, it is often triggered twice one punch after another. Is that intentional?
In that time frame i cant block which is why I'm dying often.
How to avoid this?

[dusty dagger]

"He Is ThE PtSd-" 🤓 Chuds

[twilit pumice]

When he speaks in eternal, some say it's cringe. But I see it as the game showing us Doom Marine's mentality and fear he had for the demons.
"The demons... they are everywhere. Must... kill them all!".
Also goes to show his PTSD of surviving Mars

[dusty dagger]

I think he has C-Ptsd in particular, Ptsd is normally caused by a one time event while C-Ptsd is from prolonged trauma and has some diffrent symptoms

[lethal mural]

I just dont know if any of that kind of scale is for me really.... the premise of Doom is so simple. Thats why it works so well.... Hell is invading, you have a shotgun..react...

Can you turn off the slo-mo in TDA. it is cool at first, but it gets a bit distracting

[twilit pumice]

I have heard there are different types of PTSD. Also hear some say Doom Marine has Schizophrenia.
Only time I felt that was during Dark Ages when Doom Marine finally broke free. Hearing a child call out for their mother only to be returned by horrified screams and death screams.

Which makes me wonder if that's Doom Marine's family and if that is true. Doom Marine actually having a family

[dusty dagger]

I think the Schizophrenia part comes from being able to find Daisy in each level of Eternal, like he's hallucinating and seeing his old bunny. But idk if thats ever been confirmed or if its just an easter egg

[plain iron]

YES.

[ocean kraken]

i think he just needs a hug

[gritty matrix]

According to theoretical lore, doom 2016 and sequels take place after the doom 64 events, when he locked himself in hell for several years

Not the best of experiences there

I don't want to spoiler but in dark ages some strange stuff happens so one wonder of the nature of the doom slayer

[plain iron]

He definitely has Cptsd. It's from multiple, reoccurring events, along along with his symptoms and behaviour definitely makes me believe it's CPTSD, over PTSD

[ocean kraken]

i love how doom is mostly all just "rahhh badass killing demons" which i do absolutely love but i also like how there are genuinely great tragic and sympathetic characters

[gritty matrix]

Honestly I prefer the doom lore to be served in bit and pieces instead of being explained. It leaves space for theories.

When something is explained too much or showed too much, then it lose that aura of mistery and start to contradict itself. The slayer testament for example contradicts what we see happening in TDA.

[ocean kraken]

tbh doom lore has always been a bit of a mess

[gritty matrix]

Well let's say storybwas never the focus

[ocean kraken]

exactly, you can tell that lol and i dont think anyone plays doom for the story so i dont mind

[gritty matrix]

Carmack was always hostile to the idea of a plot while tom hall wanted it.

Now they made the choice to expand on lore, ans it's absolutely ok because in modern times people want to invest themselves on multiple fronts. But they should do it right.

[real lynx]

He is a VIDEO GAME CHARACTER. why do people have to project their mental health issues onto fictional characters 😭

He's just a badass dude that likes killing demons 💀

[noble mauve]

is there consensus on most op weapon between impaler, chainshot or ravenger yet? seeing some cool ultra nightmare runs with either of those

[noble mauve]

i skip every cutscene as carmack intended

i jsut wanna rip and tear, the lore is so dog shit in the new dark ages

[twilit pumice]

It's easy to get lost in the bloodshed, but it's horrific when we take a moment to truly analyze our predicament

[dusty dagger]

And whats wrong with that??? Im not hurting anybody dawg

[real lynx]

Its just cringe to project that sort of thing onto a character. Seems indicative of personal issues

[twilit pumice]

Yeah, it's like admiring Doom Slayer for being who he is and how powerful. Kinda like Guts from Berserk in a way

[real lynx]

Appreciate media for what it is instead of warping it into something far beyond what its meant to be.

[noble mauve]

to be fair they are ruining the doom guy right now and making him into this lore rich kinda annoying thing

i wouldnt be suprised a few dooms from now they deal with his trauma

in 2 games they will give demons a legitamite viewpoint and make humans seem like colonizers. its just what all AAA is trending towards

you want a real step forward for doom, play ultrakill

[dark thunder]

Me when I make stuff up

Jk

[river fern]

Where is the projection here

[noble mauve]

i was so legit annoyed at all the freaking yapping in this one. i just skip every cut scene and its much better

[dusty dagger]

I think hes even more powerful when you realize hes dealing with some mental health shit and yet still has the strength in him to fight an endless battle against hell

It can be inspiring in a way, you see a character dealing with the same mental health issue you are and yet theyre persevering and still getting through life, one way or another

[noble mauve]

the tension here for old doom fans is

"John Carmack, a developer of Doom, is often quoted as having said that "Story in a game is like a story in a p*rn movie. It's expected to be there, but it's not that important," a quote which originated from the book Masters of Doom.[28][29][1] Carmack has since amended the quote to acknowledge the existence of games where story is a greater focus; however still maintained that he believes games which prioritize gameplay are the "most important""

were holding onto this old franchise we love that was just fun and kept all these modern trappings of video games out and dark ages kind of is the end of that

[rapid sundial]

Stories and plots are important, to me, and maybe it might apply more to Doom in the future. Because without plots or stories, there won't be new interesting things for gameplay to exist

[noble mauve]

just want something metal and cool, not something sensitive and introspecive

[ripe nacelle]

I keep having a glitch in mission 21 where instead of playing a cutscene i spawn on foot instead of an atlan

[rapid sundial]

The stories lead to continuity

[dusty dagger]

Man idk what the problem is with lore, having a character be one dimensional gets boring as fuck

[noble mauve]

continuity is boring

[river fern]

As much as Doomguy has a solid moral center it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to see there's something kinda wrong with him

[noble mauve]

the need for a multiverse is really super tired

[distant tusk]

i just bought this game and link to bethseda to get my butcher skin

[rapid sundial]

Continuity exists so that there is something to exist. If we want to have Doom Eternal sequel, there has to be a story exist, post-Eternal stories

[rapid sundial]

I mean, I agree on that one

[noble mauve]

not really, its a fps boomer shooter. they can go 100% on mechanics and it would be better. they are trying to launch a big $$$ franchise with spin offs, maybe a show, cartoons etc..

ultrakill is a good example of that

[dusty dagger]

Hes fighting a battle against hell for EONS, has seen some horrific shit, had his family ripped away by demons, and was forced to be a slave to the maykrs against his will for who knows how long

[noble mauve]

i enjoy dark ages, its solid, but the implication of what they are doing with the lore clearly signals the end of this franchise to me imo

[dusty dagger]

Sounds like a you problem

[noble mauve]

i guess, its sad tho

[harsh egret]

me when theres a skip button to the cutscenes

[noble mauve]

i really loved doom

[rapid sundial]

I do like to see more of Doom universe, through the new lore we can see new dimensions, new worlds, maybe new demon variants

[twilit pumice]

You still do. Just not in the direction it's going. Like you'll always love classic Doom. And classic Doom is fucking incredible.
I personally love the series overall.

I do think the series should avoid becoming too story focused. Rn it feels perfect to me. Still very much gameplay focused with a focus on story. And Doom Marine's mental illness was brought to the forefront by Doom 64's story manual

[rapid sundial]

I mean, if we really want to keep modern Doom simple, then we should have had Doom Eternal nearly exact similar to Doom 2016. Gorey, dark, simple storyline. Killing the Icon of Sin, end the story, no retcon to Doom 64

Then maybe the third final Doom game is Doom Slayer vs Motherdemon, then he got back to the coffin. That's how the modern Doom trilogy ends

[dusty dagger]

Its your own decision to be pressed about the story and lore they are adding, you can change that mindset to appreciate the worldbuilding and how theyre trying to expand the Doom universe

[noble mauve]

no, thats really condescending honestly

you just enjoy a redditified doom because like it or not, you dont get it

[dusty dagger]

Ight well im gonna keep on enjoying what theyre doing with the franchise while you sulk about it :)

[noble mauve]

right, enjoy trauma dumping onto a video game as a healthy mechanism for whatever you have going on

[twilit pumice]

Did we play the same game?

[rapid sundial]

The modern Doom do feel like ultimate fan-service games, sometimes it is good, sometimes it is not great to me

[noble mauve]

this is a good and new take

havent heard that before but i agree

[dusty dagger]

Theres legit nothing wrong with that??? I even mentioned it to my past therapist and she said its a healthy way to cope and process that kinda stuff

[twilit pumice]

To me, modern Doom has that same over the top, metal, W40K like energy.

[rapid sundial]

The fan service part is the Doom 64 retcon, the demon old designs return, the soundtrack references to the old soundtracks

I like the 2nd and 3rd one, I both like and don't like the retcon at all

[uneven dragon]

he did the 2005 movie's score

[frank turtle]

Am I tripping or does nightmare+ feel harder

[rapid sundial]

I like the retcon because "Yes, it's the same Doomguy from the classic game" and I don't like because "I wish Doom Slayer is a completely different character rather than the same Doomguy

[noble mauve]

gameplay wise, i think one thing that is lost from 2016 and eternal is really level design. Doom levels should feel like intricate puzzles. I feel like dark ages is a lot of just open arenas and the encounters dont feel super intentional.

obviously classic doom had the best stuff, but romero was a level design genius

[rapid sundial]

The retcot messes up the story stuff somewhat because now we have multiverse stuff. Multiverse thing really mess up lore stuff

Marvel multiverse exists and its somewhat fine, it allows them to create different stories. But Star Wars multiverse, Doom multiverse, crossover multiverse stuff is headache

[frank turtle]

Damn I really enjoy the level design in this game ngl

[errant pagoda]

there was a balance change a day and a half ago

[twilit pumice]

What were the Doom Slayer identity theories when 2016 was still new?

[noble mauve]

oh lol didnt notice. i actually also was like "is nightmare harder today?"

[frank turtle]

Oh yeah I didn't know I'd it went live yet

That's cool

[autumn dawn]

sigh

[noble mauve]

its a good change, the intesnity is better

[drowsy rock]

Is there going to be photomode in the future?

[rapid sundial]

Samuel Hayden is Seraphim, I don't like that lore at all

[ripe nacelle]

what was unbalanced

[plain iron]

I quite like it tbh

[errant pagoda]

afaik the game is pulling stats data from their servers, so no need for a steam update for a balance change

[uneven dragon]

yeah that felt kinda cheap to me :/

[rapid sundial]

I think that it probably better if Urdak/Heaven assists Earth on creating technology stuff and discover hell. Rather than, idk, Samuel Hayden reborn as a human then become a robot, like wtf

[drowsy rock]

So TDA is basically a new lore?

[noble mauve]

hayden as seraphim is so dumb

[twilit pumice]

I was honestly shocked to not see photomode on launch. Doom is generally one of the best looking game series. Including Doom 3

[trim stirrup]

what was retconned?

[rapid sundial]

I mean TDA is the new lore, it's a prequel to Doom 2016, so yes

[dark thunder]

Saying doom was redditified is absolutely untrue and wild

[drowsy rock]

So how can they expand future doom games?

[errant pagoda]

Slayer wakes up, slaps new dark lord, goes back to sleep.

[rapid sundial]

The ending of Doom 64, Doomguy killed Motherdemon (and her sister in Lost Levels), he chose to stay in hell. Hell is connected to other multiverses, so he travelled to a different universe which is the modern Doom games. This is confirmed in Doom Eternal, when those night sentinels found Doomguy in Hell and brought him to Khan Makyr

[trim stirrup]

the dark lord was slain and the slayer was put into a coffin again, no one knows what the future holds 😱

[dark thunder]

Isn’t the earth in eternal also missing the same moon from doom 1

[rapid sundial]

When they have a reason to create new Doom sequels, like new gameplay innovation and whatever

[drowsy rock]

Secondly, Is there a chance for Eternal Sequel?

[rapid sundial]

Right now, I believe they might create more Doom prequels to expand the Doom universe lore

[dark thunder]

No, Hugo said they don’t want to make the same games

Understandable, but a game expanding on eternal and fixing flaws would be godlike

[loud gulch]

power fantasy 🔥

[rapid sundial]

I feel like there will be another prequel Doom game in the future

[drowsy rock]

I bet money will change tgwir minds lol

[dark thunder]

They’re building a doom universe there definitely will be more

[noble mauve]

they should just make quake instead

for next release

[loud gulch]

im sure there would be a tda sequel before we get an eternal sequel, or maybe a 2016 sequel???

[drowsy rock]

Most probably.

[dark thunder]

2016 sequel is eternal

[noble mauve]

i doubt they will go back to eternal or 2016 gameplay

[dark thunder]

Hack and slash doom game lol

[loud gulch]

im sure a 2016 sequel will happen some time in the future

[trim stirrup]

yeah, i have doom 64 and fully finished it with all extra levels etc...afaik after doom 64 the slayer remained in hell until the night sentinels found him and threw him into the arena to fight and test him if he is worthy, then he was trained amongst the night sentinel military

[indigo valve]

anybody know how I can enable my windows key and can stop doom to change my systemkeys? I got voicemeter and my mutekey is binded to voicemeter, but the game change it to toe normal windows speaker. So I'm not able to mute the sound with the key.

[rapid sundial]

If they really want to build a massive Doom lore universe then they have to reach at the level of w40k lore

which can be difficult

[drowsy rock]

So why is DOOM Guy called Slayer in TDA? Didn't he got his power boost in 2016 one thus becoming Slayer?

[dark thunder]

They have too many plot holes they need to fix before expanding a ton

Some much more lore I want to know about afterlife in the doom universe

[rapid sundial]

I mean ID software kinda have a ID Multiverse lore. Wolfenstein, Doom and Quake are all exist in one large multiverses

[trim stirrup]

there is also a 3 hours lore video which i have watched just recently, it puts all the pieces from doom 1 all the way up until doom eternal together

[drowsy rock]

?

[drowsy rock]

Man i asked Chatgtp to sum it up for me lol

[rapid sundial]

No, he got divinity machine power through Seraphim way before Doom TDA, but shows in Doom Eternal's flashback

[trim stirrup]

this was not retconned afaik, no?

[rapid sundial]

Doom TDA is after he got the power

[trim stirrup]

just trying to understand, no offense

[rapid sundial]

In Doom 2016, there was really no sign to show that Doom Slayer is Doomguy. When the fans on reddit made a lot of theories about Doom 64 connect to Doom 2016, that's when Hugo makes the retcon for fan service

There is no codex lore that said or hint that Doom Slayer was Doomguy or a man from different universe, or whatever

[twilit pumice]

It's not like Doom Marine's personal issues get in the way, he pushes himself to the side to kill hell.

Doom Marine doesn't recover from the trauma, therapy doesn't work for him even stated in Doom 64. Even tries killing himself in the end of 64. Cursed to never die, so really only thing that brings him satisfaction and purpose is to endlessly kill demons to trying preventing further loss of life.

He's still one dimension but given depth on his one dimensional personal self.
And yeah, Doom Marine is also a comfort character to me. Due to personal loss, trauma shaping my mind, and PTSD.

[rapid sundial]

At least, if I remember correctly

[drowsy rock]

So Doom guy and doom slayer might be two different people?

[trim stirrup]

i see...but wasnt the slayer led into a trap and burried within the sarcophagus within hell and then unburried by the UAC a long, long time later?

[rapid sundial]

Probably it was the original plan that they were not the same beings, but when Doom Eternal came out, Doom Slayer origin story changed

[noble mauve]

given there are bunnies everywhere in eternal, its def the same peson

i forget if she is actually called daisy

[half spindle]

No.

[drowsy rock]

I mean I thought it was the same person, Doom guy becoming Slayer after him getting stronger via divinity machine

I’m just way to new to the lore lol

[rapid sundial]

In an interview I watched from Tyler Mcvicker iirc, Hugo created Samuel Hayden in Doom 2016, at the time during development, he didn't expect Seraphim and Hayden are the same character. As time goes, during Doom Eternal, he kinda changes his mind to make Samuel Hayden the seraphim

[half spindle]

They are one. Doom 1 > Doom 2 > Doom 64 > billions years in hell > Divinity machine > TDA > eons in hell > 2016 > eternal.

[rapid sundial]

It is the same person

Doom Slayer and Doomguy is the same person, according to Doom Eternal. I'm saying that back then, during Doom 2016 development, they probably didn't plan to make Doom Slayer and Doomguy were the same being

[drowsy rock]

So am i right that he becomes slayer after getting divinity machine powers?

[half spindle]

I believe they did.

[rapid sundial]

Yes

There's literally a whole flashback of Doomguy in Doom Eternal

The subtitle even said "Doomguy"

[drowsy rock]

I don't even remember lol

Where does DOOM 3 fits in?

[half spindle]

It doesn’t.

[drowsy rock]

Is it not cannon?

[rapid sundial]

Specifically 3 flashback cutscenes. The first one is when night sentinels took the Doomguy to the hell priests. The second one is when Doomguy fought in the arena and Khan Makyr interested in whoever he speaks of (the demons, in this case). The third one is when Seraphim gave him divinity power

[trim stirrup]

not exactly

[rapid sundial]

You can search this on youtube

[rapid sundial]

Doom 3 is canon, it is confirmed by Hugo during interview. But we don't know where it fits in Doom timeline at the moment

[half spindle]

No, I don’t think so. Hell is completely different, demons are different. No doom guy, people open the portal for the first time.

[trim stirrup]

interesting!

[rapid sundial]

There are some artifacts in Hayden's office with number codes similar to Doom 3 artifacts one

[half spindle]

It is?

[plain iron]

... multiverse.

[drowsy rock]

Never played or read about it, who's the character we control? Is it not doom guy/slayer?

[tight elm]

no its js a random guy

[merry sapphire]

billions years in hell is after the divinity machine dawg how else would he live that long

[half spindle]

Through hatred and sheer will. Time in hell passes differently.

[rapid sundial]

In Hugo Martin Doom Eternal playthrough stream chapter 9, he confirmed it

[half spindle]

[rapid sundial]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mSK4nvdKm_Y

[drowsy rock]

Could it be possible that it takes place somewhere between, when doom slayer was in hell for long period of time?

[rapid sundial]

You can watched that short clip, near the end there is a crop part of that stream of Hugo confirms it

[rapid sundial]

Probably. And Doom 3 takes place in a different universe as well

[trim stirrup]

dang, that's cool 😄

learned something new!

[gritty matrix]

I don't agree with the last part of the statement but it's perfectly fine that people related to stories and lore and want to get involved in them. A gameplay don't need a story. Some of the best videogames gameplay don't have a story. Tetris don't have one, arkanoid don't have one, street fighter 2 didn't really have one until it was expanded and still no one cares about it.

[hard thistle]

there are multiple like dimensions and only 1 hell that invades em

doom 3 is one of em, but that's like the only connection between the games

[twilit pumice]

Could be an instance of Doom Marine's battles in hell. Was fighting alongside that now extinct race at one point before being recovered by the night sentinels I guess.

In my head I'm thinking Doom Marine is recovered some time after 64.

[rapid sundial]

What I mean is that there has to be a new plot so that there is a reason why Doom Slayer continues to fight. For example like we need a new evil demon lord, or 5 new hell lords pop out of somewhere that is powerful, and they destroy a lot of world. So when we, as the audience, kill those demon lords, we find satisfaction kinda

[rapid sundial]

Hell is connected to all Doom games. That's why the we see Doom 3 hell knights in Doom 2016 and Eternal. Same apply to Imp Stalker in Doom TDA

[hard thistle]

yeah, what I said

[drowsy rock]

So different timelines connected to one hell

[trim stirrup]

saying that the blocks in tetris dont have story is just discrimination 😱

they are happy little blocks that want to be put together properly

they have feelings too

[rapid sundial]

Imp Stalker from TDA are the same imps from classic doom games, except it is more powerful I assume

and there's Nightmare Imp Stalker too, which is Nightmare Imp from Doom 64, and yes stronger

So pretty much we have all classic demons in modern doom games. Only the nightmare spectre hasn't got one

Nightmare spectre is from playstation Doom game, and it isn't really canon anyway. Its appearance is nearly similar to Spectre except it has extra health compare to normal Spectre

[uneven dragon]

theres the Classic Doom Universe (1, 2, Final Doom, 64) the Doom 3 Universe (3, Doom Resurrection) the RPG universe (RPG, II RPG), and the nudoom universe (2016, VFR, Eternal, TDA)

[rapid sundial]

Oh yeah, I think it would be cool if there's another motherdemon in modern Doom, like third sister

[silver shore]

Hey! Quick question, I found a weird lever on harbor of souls and couldn’t notice what it did, it seems I can’t post pictures here

[rapid sundial]

Doom 64 has Motherdemon and Resurrector (the sister)

[silver shore]

It was right next to a statue, pretty dark

[rapid sundial]

Resurrector looks identical to motherdemon

so it would be cool if we see another motherdemon-like in modern doom game

[twilit pumice]

https://youtu.be/OjoUj1uEI90?si=hoIJU31dPqRRNr7H

[uneven dragon]

you can send a picture if you link it rather than upload it

[tawny salmon]

I think I found that too, does that spawn like a few cyberdemons nearby with a soul sphere?

[silver shore]

Which website can I use to do that?

[tawny salmon]

I don't know if it does that or if that always happens

[silver shore]

Didn’t really notice ;(

[tawny salmon]

but I remember there being something and then it spawned like 2 or 3 cyberdemons

[silver shore]

Didn’t see any cyber demon

[tawny salmon]

kinda like the balloon easter egg in super gore nest master level

[uneven dragon]

upload it on another discord server and then copy link to the image is usually what i do

[silver shore]

Okay give me a sec

Didn’t even notice a soul sphere

[uneven dragon]

jackie pfp spotted

[uneven dragon]

that would be fun yeah

[weak grove]

Guys, tell me if I pass the modified "Absolute Nightmare" can I get the golden hangman look or not?

[silver shore]

I even looked around the map to see if anything opened or anything and couldn’t find anything

[tawny salmon]

let me see if i was making things up in my head actually

[gritty matrix]

Higher calling is one of the drives that makes people play. But isn't the only one. Usually to make a game compelling, you want all the drives to be satisfied. On the other hand to satisfy all drives equally or even all of them isn't necessary. This is why walking simulators and graphic adventures get played. They're for that people who wants to engage with the story but don't care much to be challenged by gameplay or scarcity / farming mechanisms.

[tawny salmon]

I took a break from TDA because I couldnt escape from a softlock bug and then I played Eternal and my tab button wasnt working 😭

[gritty matrix]

And honestly speaking I hope doom will never have a scarcity/farming mechanism because the gold hunting already sucks enough

[barren shale]

Press alt first, the game stops letting the tab key work if you alt tabbed

It thinks you're holding one of the keys

[tawny salmon]

O

[silver shore]

#735684232025735280 message

Is that the one you remember?

[dry roost]

Anyone her tried ultra nightmare?

[gritty matrix]

Ah that what they told you... In reality you're trying to avoid to be walled alive by one of your enemies. Then the speed increase toward your inevitable demise.

That's also why in the starting screen you see the Kremlin. You're being segregated by Stalin secret police.

Completely unrelated to doom, I was making a script to handle a loyalty program and I even tested one of the functionalities. I don't know how, it completely disappeared when I was testing it again yesterday. Am I going insane.

[twilit pumice]

@dusty dagger
Something I don't understand with people using an old comment once said by John Carmack is his comment about story in a game around the time he developed doom 1.
When later on Doom 3 had self contained lore to the Mars base found throughout with PDAs. Like modern doom with Lore pages and Doom 2016's PDAs.
It's like people think others are incapable of change through the nature span of our lives

[hard thistle]

something like that

[tawny salmon]

Figured it out

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/940107849965666314/1375383955901124638/image.png?ex=68317da0&is=68302c20&hm=e37ff00af9300168873f5ec89abd6ce08520e555707e34089fe488033568543d&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/940107849965666314/1375383996678144040/2085491.JPG?ex=68317daa&is=68302c2a&hm=3887af4fea1dcf3a9974bf468e35581489c847d851e3d9b84c997db4ec7bf0a1&

spawns a soul sphere here (as well as a few cyberdemons :P)

[versed nest]

Hey guys, does anybody know a way to get the berserker trophy on ps5? It's glitched and idk what to do

[merry sapphire]

thats stupid

@hard thistle Thoughts?

[rapid sundial]

imagine doom 1 and 2 remake that retell doomguy story 💀

[silver shore]

YES, thanks, I don’t think I saw the cyberdemons the first time, thanks!

Maybe I was full health so I couldn’t pick up the soul sphere

[oak temple]

Second Wind's review was terrible and deserved to get dumped on by Mayo

[oak temple]

No. Hugo even said in the latest TDA stream they'd change up the game on their next title again. They don't do the same game twice and doesn't seem like they do sequels

[gritty matrix]

That comment was also made in 1993. Different technologies, different mindset, different team size. At that time made sense to focus your resources where it mattered. Now teams and budgets are way bigger, you can polish multiple aspects

[mystic patrol]

Does Mayo like the game? I have not watched his videos on TDA because I was afraid he would ruin my opinion on the game

[obtuse chasm]

he likes the doom pizza skin... like me!
PLEASE someone help me getting that awesome skin!

[lone tiger]

yall

i just farted

[loud gulch]

shit wtf are yall getting pixelated daze outlines??

like the purple outline during a daze

[exotic mantle]

Game of the year

[grave cave]

I've basically just plat dark ages,, berserker is glitched tho :(

[mystic crow]

My favorite doom game, can't stop playing it

[twilit pumice]

If not game of the year, definitely deserves FPS of the year.
But regardless of the game awards, I love this game

[exotic mantle]

Lucky I can’t until a patch probably my progress on chapters won’t save

[harsh egret]

will have a good chance to be action game of the year

[grave cave]

Same, reason I've put basically 😔

[harsh egret]

goty isnt rly achievable imo, but obv this game is MY game of the year no doubt

[exotic mantle]

I hope so I’ve played clair expedition 33 and I don’t think it’s better than Doom personally

[harsh egret]

they will give it to e33 imo, pretty deserved imo

[exotic mantle]

I disagree

[harsh egret]

i see why e33 would win it over doom for most people/critics tho, but i enjoyed my time in both

[harsh egret]

gotta look at the broad picture, u can def tell who will win based on critics and even general feedback from people

[twilit pumice]

Same
Only other game I have high anticipation for this year is borderlands 4. And may stop playing the series after 4.

[harsh egret]

or... u can def tell who WONT win

[exotic mantle]

E33 is impressive obviously by only 33 devs but imo it’s obvious that so much more went into dark ages

[amber wren]

my hope for bl4 is that it will flop and they will finally stop beating the rotting horse

but maybe it will be good

[harsh egret]

ofc, but game of the year isnt always about who did this who did that, its usually given to someone who actually innovates or achieved something that will change the game industry, and e33 did more so than tda

hopefully that makes sense, im on 3 hrs of sleep idk what im rly rambling on about sometimes

[exotic mantle]

Haha lol

[amber wren]

i havent played e33 but to me it appeared to be similar to modern final fantasy

[harsh sequoia]

Did you guys like the new pacific rim game

[amber wren]

did they put the troll song in it

[exotic mantle]

I see your point but Doom is a great game in so many ways and so many small details

[twilit pumice]

Borderlands 1 is my favorite amongst the games.
I just feel Borderlands biggest issue is a lack of identity. Game setting isn't really that interesting to me. I liked Borderlands 1 setting but it's not carried over in following games.
Doesn't capture me like how Doom, Deus ex, or Dead Space does.

[harsh egret]

e33 was def a great game and i see why it would (likely will) win goty, but for me i for sure had a better time overall in tda, but e33 was amazing and def gonna set a standard for the future of games when it comes to pricing and actual game development in the industry

[exotic mantle]

Yeah exactly Borderlands goes hard but Doom just goes harder

[harsh egret]

borderlands has a chance to be a big ass meme

[exotic mantle]

lol

[harsh egret]

especially after what happened this week

[dusty dagger]

Oh God that 💀

[exotic mantle]

I really didn’t like E33 tbh I wasn’t impressed

But I’m just a hater

[dusty dagger]

Pitchford stfu challenge level: impossible

[twilit pumice]

Is it randy greaseford bullshit again?

[plain iron]

what happened

[harsh egret]

yh

[dusty dagger]

Randy Pitchford said if you were a true borderlands fan you would pay $80 for the base game

[plain iron]

Ew.

I say as I buy two versions of TDA

[amber wren]

mine is bl2 but thats mostly because i played it a lot with my cousin
i was never really engaged with the series combat loop like i am with other games it felt more like a game where you play with abilities if that makes sense

[twilit pumice]

Felt my mind just do a spin.
Fuck you Nintendo

[harsh egret]

the biggest problem isnt the price, its that he is a moron

[twilit pumice]

I understand. Borderlands is one of my niche favorite series

[dusty dagger]

Lmao I'm still gonna be preordering BL4 with its season pass cuz I love borderlands (I mean look at my pfp it's dancing Krieg)

[harsh egret]

but idc really to begin with, i wasnt ever interested in borderlands tbh

[plain iron]

He's so girly pop

[dusty dagger]

Real

[plain iron]

Idk who tf that is but he's so girly pop

[dusty dagger]

Ill tell you in general

[amber wren]

i blame the dragos of the world for modern gaming

[harsh egret]

tbh tho i do feel like a game like doom for its price shouldve included some sort of extra side content for those who arent big hardcore doom fans willing to spend 70 or 80 dollars for tda

[mystic patrol]

For real

[harsh egret]

horde mode, master levels, smth

[amber wren]

i spent 7000 edge points to play tda and at that price point its a steal

[mystic patrol]

On you with that. Lets hope they will commit and deliver more free content in the future. The TDA maps are so fitting for master levels

[amber wren]

they didnt even give us all the mls for de so i wouldnt hold your breath for that

we are getting some for tda they said

[harsh egret]

harbor of souls would go crazy as a master level ngl, they can do some crazy shit

one of my fav levels

[amber wren]

siege part 1 is definitely getting ml

[mystic patrol]

I want some cosmic realm shit as well

[harsh egret]

yh

[mystic patrol]

Ooooh ye definitely

[harsh egret]

ngl the big open levels i dont see what they can really do for a master level, unless they completly change the overall structure of the level

[twilit pumice]

Has any of that been mentioned by Hugo?
Dark Ages should get a endless wave horde mode. Not sure they handled horde mode in Eternal

[harsh egret]

fully remix a level for the master level would be kinda cool tho

[harsh egret]

master levels he mentioned yeah, he said thats something they can possibly do in the meanwhile before the dlc

[twilit pumice]

The complete edition is prolly gonna roughly be $120.

[amber wren]

it will be 10$ in 2029

[tawny salmon]

I want a boss rush dlc

[vital rapids]

Props, you're a braver man than I dude

[hard thistle]

Handy Bitchford

I cant see borderlands the same again

[harsh egret]

i never cared for borderlands so to me it was funny

[hard thistle]

i hope the 4th one flops

[harsh egret]

i played a bit of borderlands 2 at a friends house long time ago

[hard thistle]

Hes a weirdo

[hard thistle]

If he cared for his fans, he would make it cheaper

[harsh egret]

i heard they doubled the budget for this one or smth

almost 300m not accounting for marketing

[hard thistle]

thats corporate bs talk, they just want an excuse to charge more

[harsh egret]

like im sorry, but 300m for a borderlands game? rly?

[hard thistle]

game has big budget but cant work for shit at launch with lesser content

idk how people fall for these schemes over and over

I'll be laughing when gta 6 has a cyberpunk disaster while people willingly paid over 100$ US

[harsh egret]

i feel like they wont let themselves release gta 6 in anything but a good state

i just dont see that happening, either way im not buying a ps5 just to play gta

[plain iron]

Tbf they can't account for outside factors, like as we've seen in TDA with the driver issues

[harsh egret]

so if it is a meme release, id be laughing my ass off

[lyric igloo]

Hey guys, i have a question: does anybody knows where i can find my Doom TDA OST (i have the collector edition)

[harsh egret]

its on spotify and youtube, prob apple music as well i dont remember

its also in the artbook playing in the background

[lyric igloo]

ok thank you bro but... where's that artbook? 🤣

[harsh egret]

i was pretty surprised how bad it was for some, i played with zero crashes, zero framedrops, like one or 2 small bugs maybe, idk

[harsh egret]

if ur on steam u should see it in ur library

on console i have no idea how that works

[lyric igloo]

its my problem i see nothing on my steam

[plain iron]

As a console user I only had a few bugs, one being demonic essence not counting in the mission percent, but I got the achievement for it so it's fine

[harsh egret]

have u even redeemed the game code lol

both should be showing up as soon as u redeem it

[lyric igloo]

Yes 🤣

[harsh egret]

well idk what to tell u then

restart steam idk

[lyric igloo]

Oh no fuck... they trolled me with the eternal collector and here we go again...

[harsh egret]

not sure what u mean by "trolled"

[lyric igloo]

Because when's Eternal launched back in the days the OST was supposed to be launched too but if yah remember the Gordon Gates happened so it was delayed and launch waaaaaaaayyyy later with "bad mixing"

sorry for my english btw

[harsh egret]

that has nothing to do with the collectors edition but

[harsh egret]

no worries g

[lyric igloo]

it was supposed to be included with the game so

but you know what i found it (TDA soundtrack)!!!

[harsh egret]

yeah that i know but now there shouldnt be any issue with this game lol

[harsh egret]

nice

[lyric igloo]

thx for trying to hellp an old slayer brother

[amber wren]

i fell through the map right before the vagrant fight in chapter 4 then after i beat chapter 4 it didn’t save and i had to redo chapter 4 on my pandemonium run

it was beast mode

[harsh egret]

welp rip

[ripe nacelle]

everytime i use the flail i feel like im a dad cracking the sound barrier with a belt

[merry sapphire]

game worked amazing for me on launch though

[rustic jackal]

I have a question, does all coins in every campaign of the base game combines into able to upgrade every single weapon upgrade?

[tawny salmon]

Pretty sure there's more than enough gold and other currencies for all upgrades

[loud gulch]

yo how do i fix the daze highlights being pixelated??

literally breaking immersion

[subtle crest]

is there a discord for ultra nightmare tips by any chance?

[barren shale]

I'm assuming you're using upscaling

[loud gulch]

dlss quality

well how else would i get 100+ fps in this fucking game 💔

[barren shale]

Well that's probably the issue

[hard thistle]

Dark ages gets a pass

[oak temple]

Yeah he likes the game. He said there's some stuff he doesn't like but he seems to enjoy it for the most part and likes the combat

[oak temple]

Probably will be my game of the year as well. Expedition 33 doesn't appeal to me at all but with everyone raving about it I can see that maybe winning but there's still half a year left of games so who knows

[violet axle]

I tried to run the game but it doesn't work so frustrated

Only sound works but game screen is hidden

[tropic pawn]

does the dragon in tda have a name ?

i still haven't played it

[violet axle]

I didn't understand TDA

[worldly igloo]

anyone else missing just 1 secret on siege part 1
ive collected all gold, rubies and got both upgrades with all collectibles and still 10/11 is it bugged or am i just stupid i tried looking all over map still dont see it

[half spindle]

Cool af.

[delicate grotto]

Serrat

[half spindle]

I’ve missed heart of ammo in ancestral forest level, and I can’t find it anywhere. It’s bugged.

[tropic pawn]

😔

[tropic pawn]

hmm

[worldly igloo]

rigged

[oak temple]

Yes

[half spindle]

[oak temple]

Why does Mick Gordon look like Super Hans?

[tropic pawn]

lol

are we allowed to talk about mick here ?

[molten island]

Anybody else still having the game freeze up? After the update

[visual trail]

visit the locations of all the life sigils i believe one of them is a secret

[wheat pike]

Looking at getting this and I see the dark ages campaign dlc on the premium edition, what is it?

Is it like the dlc for doom eternal?

[rustic jackal]

Do we get cheat codes just like in eternal? Like Unlimited ammo?

[split saddle]

sv_cheats 1

Impulse 101

[twilit pumice]

Bosh rush and maybe an option for gradual game speed increase and damage taken?

[oak temple]

It'll be similar as in Story DLC with new levels and maybe new weapons and demons

[loud gulch]

so what should i run it on then

[barren shale]

If you want good visual quality you shouldn't use upscalers. You'll get better performance but there's no such thing as free frames, there's always a visual downgrade. DLAA would work because it's an anti aliasing technique, it doesn't actually upscale anything

[hard thistle]

did eternal have stupid shit like a skin being locked behind a pizza place only found in the US or a 2000$ skin like tda?

[barren shale]

DLAA would lower your performance though over not using any at all. Just wanted to clarify since that setting is in the same section as DLSS and is the same tech under the hood, just used for a different purpose that it's far more suited to

[deep skiff]

Not at all man, I myself am so annoyed by that shit, It's ridiculous, I am leaving the paid ones out but, It was so annoying to get the twitch drop one and nvidia isn't giving me the verdant one

At least I hope someone has a spare verdant skin, cause for sure nvidia is not giving it to me despite having nvidia card, rewards and all enabled.

[hard thistle]

it also didn't give me one but a randome kind soul just dropped the code in general n I was the first one to use it

[hardy sundial]

Okay finished the game finally. I'm going to walk back my initial concern on the gameplay based on early videos. Actually early gameplay is a bit boring, but once you start getting access to the runes, the game gets crazy good. I still think Eternal is my fav, but the shield is amazing now, and using it to power some of weapons (guns and mele) is brilliant. It's also very hard towards the end on Nightmare when you're chucked into a room with escalating uber Demons. Really enjoyed this one. Hopefully in any future game they can merge some of these concepts (shield, and powered up abilities) with the verticality of Eternal and also it's weak spot mechanics.

[deep skiff]

Damn so lucky man

[hard thistle]

ion have nvidia card, got an old ass laptop. learned latter it only gives u if u have the card but like I said I got lucky n a stranger gave it to me

[hard thistle]

fr

also struggled a fuck tone for the twitch skin

[loud gulch]

i lit redeemed it but its not showing up

[hard thistle]

fucking hate twitch don't even use it

[deep skiff]

I have a different graphic card but It is an equivalent of 3080 Ti still I never got it, They don't even do the promotions right😂😂

[hard thistle]

why dafuq u get rewarded for watching someone else play for 1 hour when you can play it urself. Make it make sense

[deep skiff]

I had to create a new account for that

[hard thistle]

me too

[deep skiff]

Damn, That must be so annoying

[deep skiff]

Me too

[deep skiff]

PrOmOtIoN they say😂

[oak temple]

Loads of games do this. Watch a partner streamer and get rewards

Its annoying but pretty common these days

[hard thistle]

ik n I find it fucking stupid every time

[deep skiff]

Yeah, I had to do that for Space Marine 2

[oak temple]

Meh just have the stream on the background and mute it

[hard thistle]

like I own the game myself reward me for playing it not for fucking watching someone else play my game🥀🥀

[deep skiff]

Same

[noble relic]

before i start this for the conqueror skin, how painful is ultra nightmare?

[oak temple]

Its harder now they have updated the difficulty

[loud gulch]

hellknights one shot and soldiers deal a fuck ton of damage

[hard thistle]

gazillion times easier then 2016 and eternal

[noble relic]

i want that skin so wish me luck lol

[hard thistle]

Goodluck

[deep skiff]

Completely reasonable thought, but conpanies want to do anything but reward people for just playing. They just love selling trivial stuff to the players

[loud gulch]

i actually felt like killing myself after spending more than 3 hours on siege pt 1 and 2

[noble relic]

ive js finished my first playthrough on ultra violence

[loud gulch]

glhf

[hard thistle]

whoa lil bro, no death threats here

[oak temple]

3 hours? why so long?

[noble relic]

revenants are gonna be a pain in the ass arent they

[hard thistle]

then don't jump on un

do regular nightmare or the other one first

[noble relic]

ive platinumed the other games

[hard thistle]

forgot how it's called where u only have 3 lives

[hard thistle]

so? this isn't the other games

[deep skiff]

Well any chance that they will sell the skin after a while on the store?

[hard thistle]

who knows

[noble relic]

i want the conqueror skin and ill be fine with the difficulty

[valid moat]

Is this the last doom game?

[hard thistle]

you'll die allot but goodluck I guess

[oak temple]

Probably not

[valid moat]

Why do so many say that and that it flopped etc

[oak temple]

They said they want to keep making it

[deep skiff]

Yeah, I just hope they sell it all later like Eternal, I don't do this for any game, But damn, Doom is really hurting me plenty this time😂

[hard thistle]

yes, they'll start making battle royals next

[oak temple]

Because they are looking at Steam numbers and think the game flopped but forget that the game is on Gamepass.

[valid moat]

But expidition is also on gamepass

[hard thistle]

cuz of steam charts and them braging about 3 million players instead of sales, kind of a red flag

[deep skiff]

Because it had performance issues and forced ray tracing. Which pushed back quite the player base. It just didn't flop but it could have made more impact

[oak temple]

Games on gamepass never use sale metric anymore

[noble relic]

does it still have forced rt after the update?

[oak temple]

Until we know what considers a game a success on game pass then we don't know shit

[hard thistle]

or the physical edition of the game only has the 80mb or something in the disc, also pissed people off

always online also pissed people off

[deep skiff]

Yup, they built the game ground up with ray tracing in mind apparently. Not a big deal for guys who got minimum 30 series but big deal for guys with older cards

[oak temple]

20 series*

[deep skiff]

Yeah I heard that one

[noble relic]

ive got a 3060 and i chill around 50 fps but it dips into the high 30s in intensive areas

[deep skiff]

What? Is that true?

[deep skiff]

Ohhh

[deep skiff]

Set the graphics to low then, I always considered doom as a more gameplay first game than graphics one

Eternal gave me 240 fps😂😂

[oak temple]

Game is well optimised for forced ray tracing tbh

[noble relic]

for forced rt 100%

[oak temple]

Most forced ray tracing games run like shit

[deep skiff]

I was just saying for like increasing fps

[noble relic]

should definitely be an option to turn it off but oh well

[deep skiff]

Last one I heard of was Indiana jones?

[oak temple]

They can't as there is no built in lighting

[noble relic]

yeah i figured

[oak temple]

They are brining path tracing soon which should help performance even more though

[hard thistle]

not 100% but "Yes, it requires always online due to it's DRM management. " donnk how true it is

[terse hollow]

Damn havent heard about that😂 makes me kinda glad I got it on console

At least it can play offline.. won't ever be able to get mods though

[deep skiff]

Is that denuvo stuff?

That for sure causes shitty performance or so I have heard

[oak temple]

Eternal had Denuvo at launch then they removed it

Maybe they'll do the same again

[deep skiff]

I pray that they do

[meager vortex]

today i first cleared UV

i have a gold skin TDA

[noble relic]

yeah drm is lame for the fact it affects performance

[meager vortex]

it is my first time clear uv

[noble relic]

ultra violence?

[meager vortex]

yes

[rustic jackal]

Isn’t it?

[noble relic]

no

[meager vortex]

i can't play eternal uv

[noble relic]

no cheat codes like eternal unfortunately

[meager vortex]

eternal UV is hard for me

[noble relic]

eternal was the hardest for me too

dark ages was the easiest but probably bc of the shield mechanic

[meager vortex]

eternal is keep moving jumping shooting

[echo latch]

thank god i beat ultra nightmare right before this patch

seems much harder now

[meager vortex]

200mb patch

[noble relic]

ive got to do it after patch lol

[echo latch]

good luck 🫡

[meager vortex]

me too

[noble relic]

what did the patch actually change?

[barren warren]

buffed pinky, hellknight, agadon, baron, and komodo damage

also something to do with the healthgate mechanic apparently

[wild rose]

Power gauntlet is so OP for early game

[terse hollow]

Doom guys rabbit is now a chihuahua

[wild rose]

You trivialize cyberdemons and Hunters with it

[barren warren]

honestly i ran chapter 22 (nightmare default sliders) again and the damage buffs didn’t feel that significant

[noble relic]

yeah i just read the patch notes

[meager vortex]

chapter22 is killing ahzrak infinity again

[terse hollow]

Honestly the ahzrak fight felt short to me

[noble relic]

i liked the fight

[terse hollow]

Maybe im used to it taking more then one try lol...

[crimson trellis]

i wanted it to be like some megaman powerrangers crap

[terse hollow]

Spending 2 hours dying and retrying😂

[wild rose]

You mean the tweet or they released it on slayers club?

[crimson trellis]

he transforms into phase 2, then a robot, then a mech, then a giant mech, then your fighting out in space beside a deathtar satelite thing and it blows up

[barren warren]

he goes down like a bitch if you just impaler headshot, dreadmace, and parey

i’m surprised there weren’t more actual bossfights

[terse hollow]

And the spikes he shoots out seem way to fuckin easy to dodge if you just literally stand still

And maybe move a inch every now and then when he's shooting them

[noble relic]

i wasnt a fan of the morale fights i wont lie

[meager vortex]

me too he kill my dragon he deserve to die like that

ahzrak is head bursted by flail

[wild rose]

I think there were a good bunch. I'm more satisfied than with Eternal about this

[meager vortex]

i just want dragon die scene chapter21 doom slayer said rip and tear!

[terse hollow]

|| i guess It makes sense for the second fight of ahzrak to be weaker in the last chapter too since he lost the power from the wraith soul||

[meager vortex]

eternal scene doom slayer he talk rip! and tear!~

[barren warren]

||seeing him fearful during that fight is always satisfying||

[meager vortex]

his head fucked up im happy for it

dear demons you guys didn't know do not kill doom slayer pet rabbit and pet dragon

that is why all demons rip and tear untill they fucked up

[echo latch]

i didnt like the final mission of thengame

besides the badass cutscene at the start and end

[obtuse chasm]

do you have a code for the pizza skin or the controller one to trade for it?

[short plinth]

Doom The Bark Ages

[hard thistle]

I got code for the controller skin

[honest vortex]

Some of 3's and 2016's art style even made it to parts of the second half of Dark Ages.

Also Eternal's City of Hebeth during Mars Core sorta screamed Doom 3 as well

[honest vortex]

Dark Ages felt like it had the most level design of the trilogy though, atleast the second half

[ornate portal]

doom

[honest vortex]

He loves the game. He likes the combat even more than Eternal's and thinks the combat is deeper than Eternal's.

Though he likes Eternal more as an overall game, but yeah UndertheMayo is very very positive on Dark Ages overall. Though he did call it a bit uneven.

[oak temple]

Second half of TDA slaps so hard

Also TDA has the best boss fights out the 3 newer games

[uneven dragon]

out of the series in general tbh

[winter idol]

ehhhhhh, idk i think 2016 and eternals are generally better . . . by alot, but thats just me

[hallow mantle]

so for milestones in the game what does it mean complete all mission challenges in the holy city? does it mean the holy city of Aratum? because if so i have done that and should have the achievement.

[oak temple]

For me it's TDA > 2016 > Eternal. Eternal boss fights are pretty bad for the most part apart from Icon of Sin imo

[winter idol]

for most of dark ages i was asking where the fuck the bosses were

i still think 2016 did bosses the best

[oak temple]

Yeah they could of had at least one boss in the middle rather than all near the end tbh

[jovial wraith]

Perhaps someone on here can help me or maybe there's something pinned. I'm on PS5 and TDA just seems super blurry/poor resolution. Is there a fix for this?

[deep skiff]

No, I don't, I was hoping if someone had a spare I could get it for free or else I was happy to pay for it too, If the price was reasonable

[deep skiff]

Did you use it?

Or are you willing to trade for it or something?

[hard thistle]

it was a bait for the bot bro, didn't mean to fool u 😔

[deep skiff]

That was a bot?

[hard thistle]

I'm 99% sure Anna is a bot yeah

[deep skiff]

Damn, The age of ai scares me

No wonder all the codes online were snatched up by scalpers

[oak summit]

hi how are you

[weak parrot]

MY mate who is a casual fps player decided to try TDA on UV and is now stuck as hell on chapter 6 😂

Yeah I know that.

But he's like "this game is badly designed because the difficulty ramped up too fast in this fight"

Admittedly, it is that fight with the immune-until-you-have-got-rid-of-various-waves-for-no-reason fight with the immune Manky.

I did find on UV that one was a lot harder than previous fights, but he's also a "i would rather stop playing the game because it sucks rather than lower the difficulty" kinda guy.

[mental grotto]

Dudes who pull the “bad game design” card almost never have any actual knowledge or experience with game design

[weak parrot]

This is why some games lock off the higher difficulties I guess XD

[true wadi]

Damn the Ravager is so good against tankier and boss enemies

[split gate]

Time to git gud

[weak parrot]

In fairness he did spend an hour trying and nearly did it one time, but then he just got salty.

[wild rose]

Does Ravager have damage fall off?

[crimson trellis]

its for health sustain

[serene cloud]

Omg this doom was way shorter than I expected

[lunar swan]

breezed through it i was having too much fun smh

[random sandal]

does anyone know where i can bug report

[hard thistle]

10/10 game by far!

[burnt moss]

you know what, im tired of pretending this game is easier than eternal

this game is fucking kicking my ass harder than eternal

[random sandal]

its so easy i got to level 2 on ultra nightmare