the-dark-ages

[empty urchin]

I get that. Eternal has a special place for me. I can see 2016 is the same for you.

[restive matrix]

He are spinach like popeye

[tropic path]

Well his life is fucking miserable though like fighting endless

It is no fun imo

[restive matrix]

Yes I adore that game but I still love all three games even with their flaws

[tropic path]

And he is all alone

[restive matrix]

I’d be pissed too if all my coworkers died to a demonic invasion just to realize my pet bunny died to it and later my dragon the only companions I had taken from me in the endless fight angst hell he’s more tragic than kratos

[empty urchin]

I think this adds to why some people may feel disappointed with the new release. 2016 and Eternal are so close to perfect, you might wonder why you would want them to change.

[fleet karma]

yo am i dumb or where is brighness i made it to low

[restive matrix]

I’m glad id software went in a new direction my main complaint with spider-man 2(ps5) is that the game was just more of the first but with a worse story kinda wish they tried something new

[restive matrix]

You’re in the dark ages now

[fleet karma]

i rly am i cant see so yaya

[restive matrix]

It should be in video settings

[empty urchin]

I suppose it's a matter of faith and trust in a studio that knows what they were doing. If they did more of 16, people would've still been happy because of the quality assurance, given the work the team has produced.

[tropic path]

Also how can Doom Guy be married to a character (i dont remember the name) from Animal Crossing

[brazen heron]

The fact that I put time into criticizing TDA and comparing it to Eternal means it's great.Eternal set the bar so high only thing I can compare TDA to quality wise is Eternal lmao (and maybe 2016)

[fleet karma]

i found color blind but im not

[plain iron]

He ain't. Lowkey I find it fucking disgusting too.

[fleet karma]

dasiy?

[tropic path]

Yes ig

[plain iron]

Nah. It's Isabelle.

[empty urchin]

Goes to show how much of an impact Eternal made. People still compare open world rpgs to Skyrim to this very day.

[tropic path]

Is this an ongoing joke between Doom fans

[fleet karma]

dasiy is his rabit im specaial

[plain iron]

I fucking hate it and anyone who perpetuates it should be shot. Isabelle is a fucking dog. Idc if it's "anthro" it's a fucking dog.

[brazen heron]

The so called best games of the FPS genre like HL2 and Halo 2 are so outclassed,I don't even try to use them as a comparison
Modern DOOM has ASCENDED to skies.Only thing we can compare these games is literally eachother at this point

[restive matrix]

I always like seeing other people’s criticism or opinions if it’s in good faith I’ve seen some opinions on the dark ages that are basically “the game isn’t for me so there for it’s bad and id software killed my family and stole my money”

[plain iron]

ITS A DOG.

[brazen heron]

One company put more effort into evolving and revolutionizing the genrein the modern era than ALL major companies combined in 2000's,that's insane

[restive matrix]

Like can people not like something and just move on why do they force themselves to like it or say it’s garbage to validate their opinions I hate it dude

[plain iron]

WHAT.

[empty urchin]

They're generally given that credit because of the impact they made. HL2 had amazing atmosphere, physics and gameplay working together. Halo 2 upped the scale for the story, multiplayer was the the go to for console shooters.

[plain iron]

Lowkey idc if you've lost a pet, I've lost several, DOESNT MEAN IM GONNA MARRY A FUCKING DOG.

[restive matrix]

You got married to a dog?

I’m so confused rn

[slender furnace]

Pls help me #videos message

[restive matrix]

I ship doom guy with his shotgun

[plain iron]

MIKU IS A FUCKING INSTRUMENT.

I'm actually losing my shit

[brazen heron]

@restive matrix Some people like me just think TDA is simply worse than Eternal and didn't meet our expectations.But we still like the game.Do not confuse straight up haters with people who were disappointed because of the high expecatons set by Eternal but still like the game.

[restive matrix]

I can’t go to a guitar center and play a miku

[plain iron]

You can if you have a miku pedal iirc

Brother. Brother miku isn't one character. That's the point of her. She's supposed to be anything.

[restive matrix]

Tbf I was disappointed in eternal for not being more 2016 but I later grew to adore the game so it will probably happen with the dark ages as well as time goes on

[empty urchin]

TDA was always going to be a risk, and has the unenviable position to be compared to Eternal. Luckily the game is doing well.

[plain iron]

Jfc these newgen vocaloid fans

[restive matrix]

WHAT

[plain iron]

The character of miku is a character. Miku herself is a voice bank.

[plain iron]

Yup, my mate has one

It's called a miku stomp

... she's the voice dawg. A example of this is rabbit hole. That's not miku. Very much not miku. It uses the voice bank. But it's not miku.

Regardless YOU DONT MARRY A FUCKING DOG.

????

[humble swallow]

Is this a furry server 😳

[restive matrix]

How did we go from doom guy marrying Isabel to Hatsune miku what is going on

[cloud steppe]

shield memes please

[molten holly]

who is marrying a dog and what does hatsune miku have to do with it wat

[empty urchin]

It better not become a waifu war.

[restive matrix]

What

[plain iron]

DUDE.

[cloud steppe]

You got it, Cap. that's what we call the captain

[plain iron]

oh fuck this shit

[humble swallow]

Oh. Yikes. Im out

[mellow fulcrum]

does any1 know if they fix the Berserker trophy do i have to play through the game again to get it, bc u kinda cant roll back ur save on the game

[restive matrix]

We can’t send links here I don’t know how to man

[plain iron]

<@&162901871168585728> please deal w this. I cannot deal w this in good conscience.

[cloud steppe]

Doomguy: I'm not Steve Rogers

[restive matrix]

Jon wanted to see furrys not whatever is happening here

[cloud steppe]

will they put in a Captain America skin for the shield?

[mellow fulcrum]

does any1 know if they fix the Berserker Achievement do i have to play through the game again to get it?

[brazen heron]

The thing is TDA COULD have been an evolution of Eternal.It is just not.It is an devolution.That is why it made some people like me mad.The removal of dashing,EVEN slower walking speed,removal of weapon mods,no weak points,overreliance on the shield,most specific enemy weaknesses are gone,the ballista is gone,only one superweapon compared to Eternal's three(four with the hammer).
Ammo is NEVER scarce,it is very abudant,unless you are ploying on nightmare and waste your ammo.The "funzone" is mostly gone.You can spam the shield bash and shield's block without much trouble.It's much more open gameplay wise.
When you played and became good at Eternal,and absolutely loved it,TDA IS an devolution.That is why some people were PISSED.It's like imagine,if Eternal came first and 2016 came later.Of course people would like 2016 less,because it is less developed.

[restive matrix]

<@&162901871168585728> just nuke the whole channel we’re in the dark ages now

[cloud steppe]

I fell out of the map and ended up in Doom 2016

[uneven mortar]

hatsune miku is character and a voice bank

[brazen heron]

So yeah,if TDA came before Eternal,I wouldn't have much criticism for it.(Except the removal of weapon mods and overreliance on the shield)

[mental gate]

delete the server to properly RP being in the dark ages

also i just beat the game. it was peak

[empty urchin]

Come to think of it, aiming was hardly an issue, at all.

[brazen heron]

The removal of weapon mods in TDA is straight up DUMB.

[restive matrix]

Yeah I see where you’re coming from honestly if eternal capped off the trilogy people would like 2016 and the dark ages more

[plain iron]

No because I have a heart condition, currently unmedicated and I really don't wanna get frustrated in this condition.

[zealous shard]

yo. there was / is this one person: monol0gue or something, who wrote a biqasz summary about the doom lore, 3yrs ago. anyone knows if he has updated it with TDA stuff??

[restive matrix]

Fr

[feral bane]

He’s currently in the midst of updating the FAQ and at doom’s gate

[mental gate]

i believe he is currently working on it. I think he was talking in here just a little bit ago about it

[mental gate]

hello there. Its bizzare how much overlap there is between the re discord and this one

[feral bane]

Peak recognizes peak

[zealous shard]

@feral bane@mental gatethanks 😄

[brazen heron]

And also ,remember the chaingun shield in Eternal?Yeah imagine if they made it,it's own weapon and made it even better.Oh wait you don't have to!That's the chainsaw shield!

[restive matrix]

Do you think people will mod the dark ages and just make it eternal 2

[brazen heron]

Nah,that's not possible without an full SDK

[mental gate]

not what he meant i think

[brazen heron]

It's funny how similar the chaingun shield and the chainsaw shield is

[restive matrix]

I actually like the shield but wish it was more of a last resort type thing instead of using it constantly

[empty urchin]

The thing with the shield too is, is that it's intrinsically tied to the core gameplay, you can't escape it.

[zealous shard]

so .. dtda is right before d2k16, yes? if so, i'll go play d2k16 now

[vital flare]

Until he updates it you can just ping him directly and ask your question: @hard thistle
Just do it in #1369206341003903018

[brazen heron]

The thing is TDA lacks SO much stuff Eternal had.These are NOT possible to add without an SDK.A fanmade modding tool would not be enough.

[plain iron]

... you tried to justify something objectively disgusting by saying folk make illegal content w children. Brother. Ofc I'm gonna get heated.

[opaque gyro]

Just set the refreshreate going off adapter for first time to 118.whatever. Might work. You cant set it from display settings. You have to actually goto display adapter. See how fps is 90 (120 fps) now? It took it out of 4k though. Im pretty sure the display isnt meant to work with PC like this. The company might change this if they are reading my comment. Their newer prodcuts will be set for this. See how it moves smoother and can bareley notice the difference with 4K off.

[restive matrix]

What is happening

[ripe gull]

does anyone know what song plays during the final boss?

[empty urchin]

I kind of wish tda had alternative fighting modes, instead of just the shield.

[zealous shard]

oh?

[restive matrix]

Ligma

[ripe gull]

wut duhh

[empty urchin]

Why..is there no sword?

[restive matrix]

Ligma my balls

[brazen heron]

The shield is an great addition.But read the words carefully.ADDITION.Basing the core gameplay around it was an stupid decision.

[ripe gull]

messed upo bro...

[zealous shard]

@hard thistlehow far along are you with adding / summing up novik and his daughter to your pdf/sheet?

[brazen heron]

Imagine if they based the gameplay around meathook in Eternal

[restive matrix]

I feel the same way about the chainsaw in eternal I like using it sparingly in 2016 in eternal if feels like a chore

[empty urchin]

I love the shield. But I hate the fact you can't exist without it. Why not other fighting styles you can invest into on top of your weapons?

[brazen heron]

You don't have to use the meathook in the base game,if you don't want to,ever.

[river fern]

Nuked the weirdo

Who's next

[restive matrix]

Thank you mako

[brazen heron]

Chainsaw in Eternal could have been so much more,but it ended up as the ammo generator

[ripe gull]

this game is criminally short

[hard thistle]

It would have been cool if the shield had multiple modes

[loud gulch]

the reason why the ballista and all of the hitscan/sniper weapons are gone is because tda isnt about long range flying and sniping like eternal, tda is more like if dark souls was a shooter but alot more faster.

[zealous shard]

the gameplay is not based around it. who said/thinks so??

[wide prairie]

[empty urchin]

Or that at the very least.

[restive matrix]

There’s dlc coming and I think the game is too long eternal was half the length and I preferred shorter linear levels

[ripe gull]

idk man i was shocked when i beat it in under 15 hours

[restive matrix]

Did you blaze through it or took your time and explored

[ripe gull]

explored ofc

i mean i didnt bother with EVERY secret but i tookk my time to expore each level

[zealous shard]

can't wait for the dlc to be released and i hope it'll have 30 chapters!

[restive matrix]

Damn I took like a hour a level I was just admiring how good it looks

[ripe gull]

t5he skyboxes are incredible

[brazen heron]

Imo glory kills in DE should have given ammo as well,but in smaller numbers depending on the demon,like a imp could give you shotgun ammo,a soldier could give you plasma ammo etc...

[loud gulch]

imo i disagree. i really like the shield in various ways, like hitting a group of superheated shield soldiers with the shieldsaw, parrying with the upgraded chainshot, and much more. It also acts as a "dash" like eternal, but it only lets you dash to enemies (i dont mind)

[ripe gull]

is there any idea on when that comes out btw

[vestal dagger]

Also unlike the meathook, the shield isn't limited by having one weapon equipped

[brazen heron]

The order of the enemies you kill would matter alot more since your ammo is dependent on it

[restive matrix]

It will probably be like 15 but hopefully we get two expansions so it will add up to 30 levels

[zealous shard]

the only weapons i've used mostly are plasma, shotgun and shredder 😦 .. rarely the others

[restive matrix]

Either later this year or next year probably get announced at quake con this year

[ripe gull]

ah aight

[loud gulch]

thats what i love about the shield honestly

[vestal dagger]

For a DLC I doubt the two would add up to 30, Eternal had 13(?) levels in the base campaign and there were 7 combined in both DLC, and one was entirely just boss fight

[loud gulch]

surely we do, or maybe even more. DE had 2 expansions so maybe tda can get 3?

[brazen heron]

@loud gulch This is a FPS game we are talking about.Why the hell melee should be SO important?

[boreal sedge]

My guess is next year

[hard thistle]

Yeah, some issue in the game is the weapon arsenal that you don’t need to use fully, its more of a choose your favorites now

[vestal dagger]

because it's fun and I enjoy it 👉 👈

[plain iron]

Melee has always been in doom bro...

That's what the fuckin chainsaw is. A physical melee weapon.

[empty urchin]

When it's done well it can enhance the shooting experience.

[restive matrix]

It’s probably from all the people complaining about eternal having wimpy melee and the blood punch being inconsistent most the time

[vital flare]

Berserk power ups from the OG games too

[vestal dagger]

... hammer

[hard thistle]

Glory kills in itself are a melee finisher

[restive matrix]

And berserk packs and just in general you can just punch demons in og doom

[brazen heron]

Melee was never very important,only an side addition.The best you could use melee for in classics is fodders and melee only enemies

[loud gulch]

youre acting like the chainsaw and the blood punch never existed, and sylar implemented the "ultrakill tech" into de by using the punch to significantly reduce gun cooldown time

[empty urchin]

Doesn't the Slayer use guns to make killing demons more challenging?

[loud gulch]

melee is a great addition imo, further enhances gameplay in pretty much every game tbh

[hard thistle]

Yea, its for his fun otherwise he just obliterates them

[restive matrix]

Actually the chainsaw in og doom was a good way to conserve ammo and kill pinkies I got use out of it a bunch

[loud gulch]

is it? i dont remember lmao

[plain iron]

Brother. It's not about use. It's about consistency. Among other things.

[brazen heron]

@empty urchin Slayer's weaponry is made of argent energy powered tech,he is one of very few people who can utilize the full power of the argent energy

[loud gulch]

oh ya i forgot a visual detail, doomguy usually uses his fists on glory kills on de and 2016 so yarh

[rugged hill]

Fuckin wild I saw someone say the dark ages is the duke nukem forever of doom.

[hard thistle]

Yeah glory kills are melee too

[mental gate]

A side addition that wasnt very good. now they made it useful and fun.
This is such a pointless arguement. Youve yet to say why there being melee is actually bad

[empty urchin]

Iirc there was a scene where the Slayer takes a plasma gun from a uac soldier.

[restive matrix]

Honestly if you’re really disappointed in the dark ages you could probably just go back to playing eternal that’s what I did when assassins creed odyssey wasn’t what I wanted so I went back to origins

[loud gulch]

true, it does use the melee button as a trigger for the glory kill

[uneven mortar]

BROOOOOO

[hard thistle]

Umh… may be uncultured burbwhat is duke nukem or who is

[restive matrix]

What

[wheat sigil]

easy way to get ahead of the competition lol

[knotty notch]

does anyone know how to fix the 99% completion bug?

[hard thistle]

It also finishes the demon with melee

[loud gulch]

or maybe they can use the sliders, make it 150 speed with the lowest parry timing and fastest projectile

[uneven mortar]

the final ||dreadmace|| upgrade can one-cycle cyberdemons

[rugged hill]

Another seminal 90s fps game that had a game so bad it killed the franchise

[uneven mortar]

just parry, hit, glory strike, hit, glory strike

[hard thistle]

Wild, its legit better than most doom, aside from eternal ofc

[empty urchin]

Just to clarify guys. I don't think therma hates tda, the dudes just disappointed.

[loud gulch]

i guess we passed the time where we had to kick ass and chew bubble gum 💔

[brazen heron]

Because argent energy is made from hell energy mixed with the torment of mortal souls(if I remember it right)Hell was created by Davoth,Slayer has Davoth's power,so he can utilize the full power of argent energy which is made with hell energy.(At least that's my theory,it was never explained fully)

[restive matrix]

I haven’t messed with the sliders yet until someone makes like a preset one to do challenges on

[restive matrix]

Which is totally valid

[cloud steppe]

this game really trivializes fodder demons, I miss normal enemies being an actual threat

this shield literately stops anything coming at me

[mental gate]

when were fodder ever a threat?

[empty urchin]

I loved getting nuked by a random imp charged fireball in 2016.

[restive matrix]

There called fodder for a reason

[loud gulch]

theres shield health??

[mental gate]

the most theyve ever been is a slight annoyance, like in 2016

[brazen heron]

Samuel brought argent energy tech to Earth during his time with Humanity,that was the reason crucible was so important to him and Mankind

[hard thistle]

You do know you ARE the fear of demons right

[uneven mortar]

Butcher skin is awesome guys

[empty urchin]

Right. I can only assume he made some of the Weaponry accessible for the humans.

[brazen heron]

Fodders in 2016 NM were actually a threat,and not in a good way(80 DMG fireballs,thanks ID)

[restive matrix]

Plus the stalker imps do damage over time too I’ve died to one on ultra violence

[cloud steppe]

you can shield bash your way out of almost any gunfight, at least in 2016 the regular guys put up a fight

[empty urchin]

I've lost UN runs just to imps.

[cloud steppe]

you cant bs your way out

[loud gulch]

psst do my preset:
parry window lowest
damage to player 300
damage to demons 50
enemy aggression max
game speed 140
daze duration 75
enemy proj speed max
resource values 2nd lowest
everything else off

[full skiff]

just out of curiosity: out of how many polygons is the super shotgun from the dark ages made of?

[hard thistle]

Hey guys I have a question! My friend wants to play doom: the dark age. Although we hit the issue that his graphic card sadly isn’t high enough to run the game. He wants to play it really badly tho, is there a way to still play it?? We couldn’t find good advice on Google.

[uneven mortar]

Like at least 4

[restive matrix]

Cool I’m saving this for a nightmare run thank you

[hard thistle]

Well i this game you are described as a tank, but if you do want challenge you could just up the difficulty and change some combat settings to make it harder

[loud gulch]

you could run it with some exceptions, probably either would lock you out or just run on 30fps depending on your specs, wait actually whats your specs?

[brazen heron]

Am I the only one finds ultra-nightmare's name stupid?Like we already have ultra violence which has nothing to with U-NM

[loud gulch]

no probs

[cloud steppe]

hehehey I never said it wasnt difficult 😛 just that regular enemies are just kinda.. standing there, wobbling around, not doing much

[brazen heron]

They could have called it eternal-nightmare or something

[loud gulch]

i guess so, i really dont care about the difficulty names lol

[empty urchin]

CBT is honestly more fitting.

[cloud steppe]

why are they even there

[dark flint]

How can I not make my screen go red when I get low?

[feral bane]

Health and armor, much like in Eternal

[loud gulch]

the new difficulty name is cool tho.

[cloud steppe]

hurt me plenty?

[hard thistle]

They could call a level the normal quotes like rip and tear or the only thing they fear is you

[hard thistle]

Hello! His specs are NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER, I sadly don’t really know what it means but we were hoping it’s still possible for him to play it somehow?

[feral bane]

They’re not really meant to be dangerous factors in fights

[cloud steppe]

don't get hit!

[restive matrix]

Most likely not peoples games have been crashing from their drivers being old or their rig straight up not being powerful enough because of the forced ray tracing it’s like the crysis of doom games it’s gonna challenge your pc you could just rent a series s and get game pass for a month

[loud gulch]

may i know his cpu, vram and ram size?

[brazen heron]

No,non RTX cards cannot play TDA at ALL

[empty urchin]

Tell him to try the exes in the folder, not on Steam, but in the game folder.

[hard thistle]

Either try to find a solution in settings or simply be more careful

[cloud steppe]

youngsters wouldnt know that Doomguy is fully voiced in Quake 3 Arena

[loud gulch]

wait wtf i forgot 💀 💔

[hard thistle]

What does the game pass do?

[restive matrix]

You basically don’t have to pay full price for the game

[brazen heron]

Even without the forced RTX,it wouldn't run very well on old cards

[loud gulch]

the new drivers kept making me crash every 3 minutes so i just installed my oldest driver and it works fine

[teal spire]

whats the best melee?

[restive matrix]

Yeah that’s more of a nvidia problem than a id software problem

[cloud steppe]

fist

[empty urchin]

Flail and fist.

[loud gulch]

theres nothing we can do about it anyways, the rtx is baked into the lighting and is also used for hitboxes

[boreal sedge]

Depends on which guns you use

[hard thistle]

Is there still a way at least to run it? It’s not bad if it’s not the best quality

[hard thistle]

You get games for a monthly payment but once you lose it you lose all games

[brazen heron]

No sane person would prefer playing a DOOM game on console to PC

[hard thistle]

I would have to ask rq

[plain iron]

.... I do

[loud gulch]

no sadly, you cant play the game without an rtx card. game would lock you out from playing

[brazen heron]

You can always play Eternal,which is better anyways and runs way better

[hard thistle]

Well the game alright was bought

[hard thistle]

Oh okay, thank you though!

[loud gulch]

i used to play console de and honestly i play tda on controller just because im too used to it

[brazen heron]

A card that can run TDA on low settings at most,can run Eternal at max settings(mostly),it's that big of a jump

[loud gulch]

i just lost my pandemonium run on chapter 16 💔

[still ginkgo]

should i buy gamepass ultimate for the dark ages

[restive matrix]

I literally had to buy it on ps5 because my pc is too old and the parts I need are so expensive and I don’t have any disposable income rn and I had to work overtime to just afford the premium edition of the game and I’m waiting on the graphics card I want to go on sale

[delicate grotto]

TDA plays the best on console out of the modern trilogy honestly. I like that I can essentially switch to 4 weapons with 2 buttons.

[loud gulch]

i get 100fps on fsr performance and everything on low, yet i get 300fps on de

[loud gulch]

EXACTLY.

tda is wayy more console friendly than the de and 2016

[hard thistle]

Its sad you can’t transfer playstation games to pc

[brazen heron]

Imagine if there was a diffuculty above Nightmare in TDA.I thought *pandemonium" was one,but nope.(Not counting the limited life modes obviously)

[empty urchin]

You really control the buttons you press.

[loud gulch]

pandemonium difficulty is cool tho, its basically just a more forgiving ultra nightmare

[restive matrix]

I really hope Sony makes a way to transfer my games to my steam library but knowing Sony they will never do that unless they give up on exclusivity and being a greedy company

[hard thistle]

Well they did add a whole game difficulty settings including parry windows some removable mechanics and other stat changes

It makes the game more friendly to the skill gap

[brazen heron]

I am kinda tired of perma-nightmare being the top difficulty for THREE games at this point.I want a fair but extreme challenge as the final goal,not an unfair very punishing version of an existing hard challenge.

[north leaf]

nothing wrong with that, its an exciting mode that demands a whole new approach

[loud gulch]

imagine a difficulty on where your health is your ammo

[brazen heron]

Maybe you could choose between perma-nightmare or the difficulty above NM.I would prefer the diffculty actually harder than NM all time.I hate single try modes.

[north leaf]

the sliders are right there

in fact i was going to give up replaying but im going to design my own "nightmare+" probably

[loud gulch]

bro use my sliders lol

[brazen heron]

Anyone who played MC or Terraria with hard mods on hardcore and played HK on steel soul could understand my pain

[loud gulch]

parry window lowest
damage to player 300
damage to demons 50
enemy aggression max
game speed 140
daze duration 75
enemy proj speed max
resource values 2nd lowest
everything else off

[brazen heron]

I might try to beat HK on steel soul one day though,HK is nowhere hard as DE on NM

[plain iron]

Brother.... they're two different game genres.... don't compare em...

[vital flare]

pantheon all bindings is harder than UN

[brazen heron]

Damage to demons doesn't go low enough,the lowest should have been 25 percent in DA

[loud gulch]

wait seriously tho they need to make the parry window less forgiving bcs even when i set the parry window on lowest it still feels way too forgiving

id like if the timings were like dmc or the old gows

[north leaf]

agreed. the first time i parried i put the slider to m inimum

[delicate grotto]

It would’ve been cool if Pandemonium was a more fast, difficult version of nightmare with limited lives. I agree. But as others have pointed out you’re free to balance your own mode. I can’t wait to try out some crazy shit.
UN is a little boring with it just being Nightmare but permadeath. I can agree there. I still like the challenge though. Immensely satisfying to complete.

[loud gulch]

first time i even played the game i set the parry sliders to minimum

[brazen heron]

Just the existence of P5 is terrifying,let alone with all bindings

[north leaf]

i enjoyed ghost of tsushima on lethal, and sekiro charmless though

[loud gulch]

bro if i beat tda on un ill drag it until i die

[brazen heron]

I didn't try the pantheons myself,it has been very long since I played HK

[loud gulch]

whenever im losing in a conversation ill just drag it

[empty urchin]

Doom the Drag Ages.

[north leaf]

i wanted ng+ that scales the difficulty sliders up in some way ID thinks makes sense, i trust them more than my own balancing skill lol

[brazen heron]

P5 is like 30 minutes long,and most bosses are not hard,DE in NM is way longer

[loud gulch]

trust my balancing skills 😇😇

[north leaf]

maybe even have a prestige system, and once ur in ng10+ its some bizarro +1000% enemy speed shit

[uneven mortar]

It'd be cool if they added some extra difficulty modes, with silly sliders. Like a sekiro mode with tiny parry window

[brazen heron]

Most of P5's difficulty is the final three bosses

[vital flare]

P1-3 with all bindings were okay, P4 was def a challenge, and P5 all bindings is hell

[plain iron]

.... have you beaten it w all bindings?

[oak acorn]

question: if i fail to 100% complete a mission, do I HAVE to finsh the entire thing again or can i just collect only what i missed and bail?

[delicate grotto]

This is going to be the hardest game for me to beat on UN.
I genuinely find 2016 so much easier than TDA on Nightmare, even with those sniper Imps that deal 80 damage a shot.
Eternal’s NM is hella forgiving too.

[plain iron]

Me watching two whole different game genres getting compared.

[loud gulch]

collect the things then bail, thats what i did while trying to get all the wraithstones and rubies

[vital flare]

Most ppl wipe even earlier, on markoth haha

[delicate grotto]

Collect what you miss, you can leave once you get your last item and it’ll save.

[loud gulch]

chapter 16 on un is not fun 💔

[rain glen]

ive seen the low player numbers which is really putting me off, yes the pc is terrible at this point what game isn't at this rate. at this point everyone hates this game even though the game is great i was expecting higher numbers, if ID shuts down because of this it will be because of microsoft and the low player base.

[plain iron]

Fuck markoth and fuck grey prince zote.

[vital flare]

All my homies hate zote

[north leaf]

games difficulty changes hugely with how you play. watch the current top rec youtube ultra nightmare of tda if u wanna see what i mean. the ravager is so absurd when you combine it with playing defensive.

[brazen heron]

P5 will all bindings is probably harder than perma NM for sure though,I beat NM in DE and the main game of HK,without the charms and the upgrades nail,later bosses are a pain in the ass

[oak acorn]

oh nice. I was worried because when i got softlocked an hour into siege part 1 at a checkpoint and to restart the map, i lost ALL progress

[plain iron]

My proudest achievement is completing path of pain

[brazen heron]

I tried a non upgraded nail run once,it sucked and I gave up on it lmao

[slender furnace]

When are they gonna fix doom tda film grain on ps555

[oak acorn]

had to recollect every single piece of gold, toy, etc

[restive matrix]

I feel like a lot of people who were disappointed in the dark ages wouldn’t have been so upset if the game was a quake reboot instead of a new doom game

[oak acorn]

honestly crazy how a game in 2025 doesn't let you save whenever you want or worse, only keeps ONE copy of the save

having been softlocked twice now in dark ages it's my biggest complaint about the game

[vital flare]

Yeah it was the same in eternal, you can always just go in get your 100% and leave

[loud gulch]

ik theyre definitely gonna pull off a microsoft move, where they get an overwhelming amount of backlash for making a singleplayer game always online and make it offline

[restive matrix]

I haven’t been soft locked once how are you soft locking your game

[delicate grotto]

1.) Only steam numbers.
2.) Game priced a lot of people out by being both $70 and requiring a beefy PC to play it decently.
3.) Main people “hating” it are those that can’t run it despite having the recommended specs. Understandably.
4.) Game released at a shit time. Lot of people are taking HS and college finals.
5.) Eternal had the benefit of releasing during Covid.

[loud gulch]

instead of restarting the map just restart the checkpoint

[still ginkgo]

havent seen many people hate on doom tda

[silent surge]

eternal came out at a very unique time.
this won’t shut down Id

[oak acorn]

i wish. both cases the checkpoint save have been made AFTER i was softlocked

[vital flare]

Oh yeah the covid launch

[oak acorn]

first in siege 1, the portal room at the south end of the of the map, the lever just would not open the door to let me out

[loud gulch]

90fps had never felt so smooth in my entire life in tda, in other games 90fps felt like a hog to play on

[vital flare]

What a great timing for DE and ACNH

[brazen heron]

The low sale numbers might teach ID a lesson at least

[delicate grotto]

This is the first weekend of TDA’s release. More people can play it today.
Also I’ve noticed that so many people haven’t realized the game is out.

[oak acorn]

i tried to over 30 minutes, nothing worked -- restarted the map entirely and lost an hour of progress -- but the second time it opened

[restive matrix]

I really doubt Microsoft would shut id software its there only studio they own that makes consistently good games they would have to be dumb to shut them down but knowing what they did to tango I fear it might happen

[loud gulch]

where did you know the numbers for that? id like to check it out

[oak acorn]

next softlock was me somehow falling out of the map entirely in forge -- again, loaded the checkpoint save, i was still falling

[delicate grotto]

“Tech id a lesson.”
The game design in this game is top tier even if you don’t appreciate it or don’t like it. I wasn’t a full fan of this game until I started to utilize the game mechanics well.

[oak acorn]

like how did doom 1 have quicksave, manual save, as many saves as you want -- but somehow in 205 dark ages is like, halo 1 on xbox tier saving features

[brazen heron]

People on many sites are talking about this already

[oak acorn]

like i have an ssd, not a memory card, wtf

[tropic adder]

Oh we're talking about real demons here? Capitalism? Microsoft and such? Can a Doomguy... or Slayer defeat them, tho? Or are those demons stronger than him?

[restive matrix]

It’s low on steam but most people are playing on game pass or console plus eternal launched during Covid so it was released in a time where people had a lot of free time

[loud gulch]

i was hyped about tda from the very start when it was first announced on the xbox showcase a year ago

[cloud steppe]

these damn cutscenes, AS SOON as the fight is over it fades to black, you dont even have time react

[loud gulch]

i see

[oak acorn]

LOVING dark ages but the single save t hing -- not only is softlocking a risk, so is the save being corrupted, etc

[brazen heron]

@delicate grotto Main issue for most people is forced RTX garbage since they cannot run it at all or run it well

[loud gulch]

doom 2016 also had corrupted save issues, even my completed un runs got corrupted

[delicate grotto]

They’re talking about the low Steam player count. The all time peak is significantly lower than Eternal’s and is surprisingly below 2016’s…
A lot of people are waiting for a sale.

[tropic adder]

I absolutely agree with this. TDA is not the most amazing thing I experienced... But it's not BAD.

[fossil field]

Is anybody else having problems trying to launch the game on Xbox Series X? It just keeps crashing and sending me to the home screen before I can even get to the start screen. I've tried virtually everything to fix it. Will there be an update addressing this soon?

[oak acorn]

i started manually backing up the latest checkpoint by copy-pasting it from the save folder ever since -- so i have a least 3 previous saves to go back past the latest one if something goes wrong again

[restive matrix]

I really hope they add a patch to make ray tracing optional in like a year

[loud gulch]

eternal and 2016 both released at their times full price (60 usd), in our time, its 70-80 usd

[delicate grotto]

If that’s what you’re referring to then I absolutely agree. While the game is a technical marvel it priced a lot of players out by being so.
Sure, it uses modern tech but that shit is expensive. Things are no where near as accessible as they were 7 years ago.

[restive matrix]

Yeah the game being 70 dollars didn’t help if they made it like 50 for standard and 80 for premium people would have probably paid at launch

[oak acorn]

still -- i freaking it when games arbitrarily limit when you can save and force it. i don't mind if it's tied to difficulty mode or whatever, like hitman 3 or bg3 honor mode, but come on\

[loud gulch]

forced rtx really did make the sale drop. some of the casuals dont even have rtx gpus

[brazen heron]

80 Dollars for an worse(not bad at all,but worse) sequel that requires an very powerful and expensive GPU?Yeah most people would not but that,especially non first world people

[loud gulch]

but oh boy did the game SLAP

[rain glen]

at least the steam reviews are very positive still and people are praising the game but is wish there were more people praising it.

[loud gulch]

im trying to finish un on tda (on siege pt2 rn)

[vital flare]

Same, GL!

[tropic path]

Why Eternal looks more cartoonish than 2016 and TDA

[earnest swift]

Game Pass day one launch. So no.

[delicate grotto]

You also should consider this:
The game released on two different days.
Premium buyers 2 days before standard.

[tropic path]

Graphic wise or general like HUD combat collectibles etc

[loud gulch]

thanks, u2

[restive matrix]

In my opinion I feel like Microsoft impacted the dark ages negatively than positively day one game pass forced ray tracing denuvo and it being 70 bucks all combined made it so many people were turned off by the game

[brazen heron]

When everything is so much more expensive in a non first world country,you have higher standards for sequels and games in general,because the money you spend on the games is way more valuable and limited,so there is that

[oak acorn]

eternal wasn't marketed as a microsoft game by microsoft with a campaign meant to push gamepass subs as much as the game itself. ms didn't own bethesda when eternal came out, so it wasn't day one, and marketed as a doom game straight up. ms marketing barely even mentions steam, where it's a lot more expensive to play, so -- i really think people calling dark ages a flop based solely on steam player count is not a very sound argument

[tropic path]

Like its graphics arent as realistic as 2016 and TDA

[mental gate]

it has a different art style

[tropic path]

Yes and it fucks up the game’s atmosphere and gore for me

[loud gulch]

icl tho tdas main menu theme is SO GOOD

i cant get enough im adding it to my gym playlist

[tropic path]

Like we play a Doom game not Fortnite here

[oak acorn]

maybe hdr being more popular. also just stylistically they maybe just felt like the demons could use more personality and color in the style

[loud gulch]

it broke the immersion for me many times

[mental gate]

i think the art style fits the tone perfectly.

[fleet spruce]

Wow it's like Doom 3 all over again, history repeats itself

[restive matrix]

Yeah they marketed it as a first party title when the only thing Microsoft did was fund it and put it on game pass they had no involvement with any creative stuff other than the weird corporate stuff that is tied to this game

[mental gate]

its the closest to the original games art style

[tropic path]

Nah it is funky it disrupts the game’s seriousness for me

[flat pulsar]

As much as I hate ray tracing for being a framerate killer and computer burner, TDA is the first time it surprisingly didn’t kill my computer

[restive matrix]

Or crysis

[tropic path]

Wow didnt know that

[mental gate]

except eternal is not a serious game lol

[oak acorn]

they announced it before anyone else last year at microsoft summer game fest or whatever it's called

[delicate grotto]

Coupling this with what @brazen heron said, absolutely. It’s unfortunate that sales and player numbers are taking a massive hit because of it, but I’m not sure what Microsoft was expecting.
Unfortunately this influences people to avoid the game and wait for a sale if no one’s jumping on the bandwagon.
I hope TDA’s performance turns around on PC but something tells me that the console platform is thriving.
I just hope id continues to be supported by Microsoft. Being a single player developer is a dangerous game in the current industry.

[oblique fjord]

most unneeded sarcasm ever💔

[oak acorn]

ms marketed it pretty heavily -- just as an xbox game, not a pc game

[loud gulch]

THE HYPE PAID OFF

[tropic path]

I mean it adds taste to game when enemies look funky in a degree but cartoonish it is not that nice

[oblique fjord]

yeah the doom TDA pc launch was fucking horrible

[loud gulch]

ive been hyped for tda for a year now, i dont regret it

[oak acorn]

and according to microsoft every device is an xbox so.. take from that what you will

[tropic path]

Nah bro fr i never played other games that much even if i did at some time i forgot

[oblique fjord]

I feel bad for my PC brothers, but I’m on Xbox so it doesn’t affect me

[tropic path]

Like i only played original doom on my old phone a bit

[loud gulch]

im on pc and im running the game fine

[delicate grotto]

Yeah Doom 3 was insane for its time but I thought it sold a ton? More than 2016 did, at least initially.

[tropic path]

But that was like 6 years ago

[vital rapids]

why are we feeling bad for PC brothers?
Game runs well on a pretty potato PC
Only price is a bit high, but gamepass is available

[cloud steppe]

how come auto sprint doesn't apply to the mech?

[restive matrix]

Fr look at the dead space remake it didn’t make battle field money so ea killed the franchise again and i don’t want Microsoft to do that to doom because it didn’t make call of duty money

[delicate grotto]

True.
The marketing for TDA was actually pretty good. Very fun. Although it doesn’t seem to have reached a lot of non Doom fans, as I’ve noticed a lot of people looking forward to the game had no clue it dropped.

[oak acorn]

idk man, i got it on steam -- $58 on green man gaming. works out of the box with ultrawide, no stutters, 120fps easy on my 3080, looks fantastic, other than the softlocks i've not encountered any bugs -- compared to most triple aaa releases tda like, actually feels like they didn't release it in early access

[oblique fjord]

i’ve seen some people say it ran like butt idk

[oak acorn]

hmm.. anecdotally my experience has been the opposite. everyone i know personally that's a doom fan has been stoked for game for a while

[delicate grotto]

Yep. Microsoft is notorious for sitting on IPs and shutting down studios that can’t milk their players of every cent.

[loud gulch]

wtf whats your settings tell me

[vital rapids]

absolutely ZERO issues with stutter or whatever, and it runs on pretty ancient PCs
the whinging is overblown vocal people

[night basalt]

Hey anyone know who can i contact about a achievement being bugged for me and not popping up? Its the beserker trophy

[oblique fjord]

dude i stayed up untill it was installable and hit play the actual fucking SECOND it turned 6:00 for me

[delicate grotto]

Doom fans definitely.
But those not fully into the franchise, piqued by TDA, from what I’ve seen, had no clue it was out.

[oak acorn]

you need at least an rtx 2060 -- that's a 6 year old gpu. but even at lowest specs it runs pretty decently. i don't see anyone complaining about it not being on ps4....

[flat pulsar]

Do we have actual sales numbers for the game throughout all platforms

[vital flare]

I have the same problem, the bug is already reported so nothing we can do but wait

[restive matrix]

Yeah I’m very fearful of doom becoming another ip Microsoft sits on I don’t want doom guy to be another duke nukem only referenced in memes

[delicate grotto]

No.
I suspect consoles out sold PC copies.

[night basalt]

Ah damn that sucks, hopefully they fix it soon

[loud gulch]

yo wait tell me what your settings are

[vital rapids]

and tbh that's about the level a poor person who even remotely cares about running PC games might have by this point.

[night basalt]

@vital flare are you playing on steam?

[rain glen]

i think the reasony why its been getting positive reviews more than negative is because most negative reviewers is because i those players actually have their pc working and it can run the game.

[boreal sedge]

This is a bit of exaggeration, I get the complaining is annoying but it does not "run on ancient pcs" lol

[vital flare]

Ye

[restive matrix]

Am I the only one who feels like it was done on purpose so they can sell Xbox’s it feels shady to me

[night basalt]

Ah yeah me to

[hoary heron]

I wonder how many of those ninnies who are complaining about shite performance are using prebuilts with norton anti-virus and unsafe browsing habits. "Man those key-loggers that I don't know are installed on my system can't be the cause of my problems!"

[night basalt]

Im praying i dont have to redo a whole save

[vital rapids]

2060s with a 7th gen i7 can run it. If you don't consider that ancient I don't know what to tell you man

[vital flare]

But someone on PS5 had this bug too

And not everyone has it, some ppl already have 28/28 while we are stuck on 27/28 :/ we don't even know what triggers the bug

[oblique fjord]

fr the ps5 been out half a decade 💔

[mental gate]

that is not ancient lol. its not new but its not that old

[fleet spruce]

I just can't help but draw parallels here:
Technically impressive game utilizing real time lighting and shadows, which has overall darker tone than previous games, slower grounded gameplay with focus on story

[oak acorn]

so, mid to low settings, 3840x1600 res with dlss performance -- my panel is an lg c4, so it's a 120hz panel oled and it has gsync but, it kinda sucks because it's a tv not a monitor so i like to play either 60 or 120 steady

[delicate grotto]

I doubt it.
Doom is famous for its ability to run on everything. Trying to avoid the platform it started on would be an incredibly stupid move, but then again it’s Microsoft.

[oak acorn]

that's on a 3080 with a 5700x3d btw

[night basalt]

Yeah, im glad its not just me. I saw that a % on steam has got the achievement so i guess we have been super unlucky or something

[delicate grotto]

True, they definitely have a lot of things in common in that regard

[boreal sedge]

Just like Spider Man 3 too wow

[loud gulch]

dlss performance? bro for me dlss performance gives me 90fps and ultra peformance gives me 120, HWO DO I IMPROVE THE FPS

my specs are rtx 4050 6gb vram, i7 13620h, 16gb ram (200hz monitor)

[violet blade]

I need help and bethesdas support website is not working for me

[restive matrix]

Yeah my faith in Microsoft went out the window when they shut down studios who made good games and then complained that they didn’t have a studio that appealed to a eastern market just because hifi rush underperformed

[vital rapids]

OK, but how much older does a PC have to be than a 7th gen i7 and a 2060s before you could expect to upgrade to play a new id software shooter in 2025?

[oak acorn]

you've got lower specs -- a 4050 is a lot weaker than a 3080 and the vram will hurt your fps. still, you're below the 8 gig minimum and getting 90 fps so like... idk why ppl are saying the game runs poorly

[restive matrix]

And when the Xbox one was revealed god that was terrible

[loud gulch]

owh

[vital rapids]

maybe a pentium 4 and a hercules mx 2 prophet?

[oak acorn]

yes it requires rtx. just like newer playstation games require a ps5. at some point 6+ year old hardware just won't cut it for aaa titles

[mental gate]

I dont have an issue with the minimum spec. the game is optimized on the low end.

[sleek kindle]

when i launch the game, i can hear the sound but the game screen was invisible for me, and i press ctrl+alt+del to down him

[boreal sedge]

That's not the point, you said ancient, which is exaggerating lol

[vital rapids]

I'm not being elitist at all, I have 100% been a ghetto hardware gamer most of my life, because other things take priority
I just think running on cards from 4 generations back is not a totally unreasonable ask for a brand new game
hopefully they release performance patches for older, idk

[oak acorn]

it's a pc game, not a switch game. i wasn't made for 7 year old hardware

[delicate grotto]

That whole debacle was devastating. Hi-Fi Rush looked like an incredible game with poor marketing. Doom is an established franchise though, so it’s got that support system.

[vital rapids]

I disagree, but ok. different pov fair enough

[loud gulch]

alr im gonna try overclocking my laptop rq

[oak acorn]

thing is, using rt cut down on dev time and cost TREMENDOUSLY. if it didn't use rtx, the game might still be years from release, and by that time, you might have an rtx card

[delicate grotto]

Others have had similar issues. Someone here probably knows a fix. I am not that someone.
PC is having a lot of issues atm.

[zealous shard]

just had doom2016 running .. damn i missed the shield instantly xD

[vital rapids]

point of order, switch 2 has hardware RT support, and that machine is for running mario games

[sleek kindle]

i have an actual hardware, i got install and reinstall for 4 times and nothing has changed

[delicate grotto]

Going back to Doom 2016 is always such a trip, in a good way.

[oak acorn]

haha i bet switch 2 will be able to run tda etremely well

at least 720p portable at 60fps

btw the other day i was browsing gpu's and saw best buy had an open box 3090 selling for $400

[restive matrix]

Yeah but I just hope they don’t old yeller the doom ip

[oak acorn]

i know the used market for gpu's SUCKS right now -- but maybe you could get lucky?

[boreal sedge]

Aint no way, and you didn't buy it?

[still ginkgo]

doom the dark ages but every time you die 10 pushups

[oak acorn]

nah i have a 3080 -- altho, maybe i should have and sold my 3080 for the extra vram

[rain glen]

another factor of low players is covid obviously because doom 16 had low players in 2016 so probably more players played it in eternal. so i agree it could be multiple factors. but i just dont understand the public perception change i thought people said this game is peak.

its got 85 percent review score on steam

[oak acorn]

that being said, i game at 1600p ultrawide, and honestly i don't mind turning down textures

[boreal sedge]

The 3090 is worth like 1.5-2 times more than that price, would be worth it even just to sell

[loud gulch]

btw you should try fsr balanced or fsr performance it peforms like dlss peformance but it looks way better and sharper. it makes the game look more lively

[boreal sedge]

FSR 3.1 actually looks bad imo, I'm using XeSS instead

[loud gulch]

xess crashes my game 😭

ive tried everything to get xess to work but nothing worked

[oak acorn]

HARD disagree. the new dlss transformer model looks as good as dlss balanced and almost as good as quality from the old dlss model in my opinion (and many others' as well)

good at dlss balanced

[loud gulch]

idk why tho dlss performance/ultra performance makes the game look so low quality

thats why i just prefer fsr performance

[oak acorn]

i would agree if you're referring to the older dlss versions using cnn

depending on display pixel count, and other factors of course

[loud gulch]

also dlss frame generation is disabled for me?

ive seen other laptops have the option not greyed out but mines is

[vital rapids]

Yeah. FSR was pulling ahead in some games vs last generations DLSS and its different performance profile will mean it runs better when starved of some resources, but 4 is now the one pulling ahead again

[oak acorn]

but dlss performance looks better than fsr quality to my eyes

[orchid marten]

Hello guys. I wanted to ask, with the new addition of custom difficulty, does it affect ultra nightmare at all? Like would i get all the rewards still even if i lower the difficulty?

[oak acorn]

honestly dude i was planning on upgrading my gpu this year to a 9070xt bc it was supposed to be $600 AND have ai upscaling -- of course, i can't find it anywhere for less than $800

[vital rapids]

This gen of DLSS looks a lot better to my eyes. Last gen would quite often make em bleed

[flint lily]

Cant believe this , bc of the anti cheat , i have been locked out of the game for 24 hours! changing proton versions bc i had a black screen and not able to play it yet.

[oak acorn]

and now with the transformer dlss model out -- i'm actually not really feeling the need to upgrade considering i'd need to spend WAY more than the $800 i spent on the 3080 (got lucky buying for msrp on launch) for an equivelent range gpu

[sleek kindle]

a fix for invisible screen (nvidia gpu only) https://steamcommunity.com/app/3017860/discussions/0/599652477751545775/

[north haven]

Doom TDA ages is a fun game great concepts but for $80 it needs more polish especially on consoles. It needs a PS5 Pro mode and something for Xbox Series X to really make the graphics shine as best they can. This game doesn't even come close to DOOM 2016 and not even in the same universe as DOOM Eternal. Id are very talented people always have been and I have been playing since the beginning in the 90s. As a beloved fan I know the quality and care is there in the team but for DOOM The Dark Ages...Unacceptable.

[mental gate]

🧢

[vital rapids]

I tend to use DLAA if I'm honest. Quality > frames almost every time for me

In a slow single player game I will go down to 30 if necessary for the highest settings. Don't have to rn, but it'll come

[loud gulch]

im more of a 60% 40% type of guy. great frames good quality

[vital rapids]

Yeah I can see it. Got to maintain the level of fluidity you can stand

[oak acorn]

depends on the game for me but with transformer model being about a 40% image quality improvement across the board over cnn, i actually barely notice the quality loss at this point. and I play on in lg c4 -- granted, i play at 3840 x 1600 so 1600p ultrawide and not 4k, but sit close enough that the pixel density is about the same as if i played in actual 4k, which would involve me changing my viewing distance

[loud gulch]

yep.

[burnt moss]

the main issue i have with this game is that the heavier damage weapons (ssg, chainshot, etc) literally just negate any reasoning to use any other weapons. there is no reason why i should spend a full 4 seconds killing a hell knight with the accelerator when i can just fucking blow its head off in 1 shot with the ssg

[oak acorn]

if i'm playing an fps with mouse and keyboard tho and it requires, like, actual aiming -- i'm prioritizing 120 fps over everything else

[vital rapids]

Obviously in a fast FPS though, 30 could never fly 😂

[mental gate]

i never used the chainshot lol. i thought it was kinda dookie

[oak acorn]

and doom dark ages, for example -- i couldn't imagine playing it at less than 120 on an oled (1ms response time baby, suck it ips) and sure as HELL not using frame gen

[mental gate]

i like 90% just used ssg and the tight spread skull gun. both are insanely good. thats my biggest critisism of the game, most of the guns are pretty bad and not worth using ever

[burnt moss]

theres an upgrade where it becomes fully charged after every parry which is great against super heavy demons

[mild loom]

Dude you own a 3080. You are CHILLING

[burnt moss]

yeah i just stuck with the same 3-4 guns and never touched the others

[cloud steppe]

why the fuck are extra live uses optional? my god nothing more gameplay stopping than a giant fucking message popping on screen saying:
WoULd YoU LiKe To UsE ExTrA LiFE??!?!

[vital flare]

I tend do swap ssg-chainshot-ssg, I don't feel like chainshot is that bad

[mild loom]

The worst guns in my opinion are the plasma guns and the nailgun (auto fire specifically cause the single fire is busted). Even the rocket launcher is really good for healbacks

[mild loom]

Cause you kinda….died

[mental gate]

i thought the rocket launcher was terrible

[oak acorn]

seriously -- $800 on launch, 4 years ago, and it's still a fantastic card. that being said, no one else i knew could get one and most were selling for 2k+ because scalpers. I just got REALLY lucky spamming the best buy app the second it launched

[burnt moss]

Yeah i lowkey hate it too. i wish it would just immediately use it like in eternal

[loud gulch]

theres some moments where i didnt want to use my extra lives

[vital flare]

Play UN, no life sigils there. It's just a supercharge on UN

[flat pulsar]

I usually use ssg, cycler for stragglers, pulverizer for fodder groups and bfc for emergencies

[mild loom]

The rocket launcher is terrible if you don’t have the heal back upgrade

[burnt moss]

it literally heals you

[mental gate]

slow, a lot of splash damage, and doesnt even doo that much damage

[mental gate]

ok but other guns do that lol

[mild loom]

HahahaahX well you have a damn good GPU

[mild loom]

Heal back function at a much higher rate than every other weapon

[uneven dragon]

that upgrade is so fucking OP lol

[mild loom]

You can heal yourself in like 3 -4 close range parry shots

[burnt moss]

what other guns do that bedsides the ravager which also sucks

[mental grotto]

Anyone know how to access the digital artbook/soundtrack that came with deluxe edition?

[mental gate]

i never took damage faster than the tight spread skull gun healed. 🤷‍♂️

[oak acorn]

yeah im not a fan of that either. i just don't use the sigils -- would rather just start the fight again clean, it's always easier after a couple deaths once you know when and where things are spawning

[mild loom]

Steam library

Search bar

Doom

It’s in the tooos section

[mental gate]

is the ravager the tight spread skull gun?

[oak acorn]

and the way it interrupts the game -- like, it's so awkward

[mental grotto]

Thanks boss

[mild loom]

Yes, the pulverizer is the wide spread version; I love both guns

[burnt moss]

i feel so ridiculous running away from a komodo while blasting at my feet

[loud gulch]

i agree on that. why cant they just show it after i die? like in the 2018 gow

[mental gate]

ravager is easily my favorite. its very broken lol

[burnt moss]

yes. the rpg heals you so much faster than the ravager

[uneven dragon]

My Cyberdemon strat just turned into “stand next to him and shoot at my legs”

[oak acorn]

right??? it's so bizarre. half the time i think it's a tutorial message about to pop up or something

[loud gulch]

maxed out ravager with that one mod that makes the charge up faster

[loud gulch]

poor game decision 💔

[mild loom]

The Komodo is legit the weakest superheavy in the game and that’s so sad because initially he’s super terrifying

The cyberdemon is the hardest demon at anything but close range

The big spider mf is the tankiest enemy in the game

And the agadon hunter takes time to kill

[mental gate]

i never said it didnt. I just said i never needed that much healing. idk maybe i just suck but the game gives you like 6 different ways to heal

[north haven]

Zodiac615

[oak acorn]

i LOVE impaler -- forcing myself to use the slow down time feature and still get headshots as often as possible is my kinda fun

with the fast enemies it's like aimlab, but fun

[mild loom]

Same, impaler is top 4 weapons gor me

[sonic turret]

I keep hearing people call TDA "Quake". If anything, 2016 was Quake. 🤦

[loud gulch]

you know the shield bash tech?

[oak acorn]

only thing is the arc is a bit weird --- it goes from pretty much straight shot to like, a 90 degree angle in a matter of a few feet

[frail bloom]

Ye I quickswitch like a mad man

[vital rapids]

💯 I hoard them

[loud gulch]

bro SSG IMPALER ROCKET REPEAT

SIRR TECH holy shit

[oak acorn]

yeah that's my most used attack combo by far

[loud gulch]

this might be meta tho

[frail bloom]

The funny thing is that I don't have to quickswitch but it's fun and makes me feel like a genius so I do it

[loud gulch]

IKR

[north leaf]

weakest superheavy has to be cyberdemon. he only has 2 extremely readable attacks and very low stagger threshold. he is basically just fodder for my gauntlet and kicks.

[oak acorn]

no rockets tho

[mental gate]

idk man i just thought the rocket launcher was dookie. it healing you is cool and all but as a weapon it sucks. half the enemies are too fast and move out the way by the time it reaches them, and the other half shoot projectiles which block your shot. the healing was never really needed for me ever, almost all my deaths were me going from full health to dead in near instant. you heal so quick in this game

[oak acorn]

haven't been using em much -- haven't had a chance to upgrade tho

[loud gulch]

but usually i just spam the cycler because its fun to see twin barreled plasma guns shoot

[mild loom]

I said long range

[mild loom]

It is but it’s so ASS when it comes to damage

[loud gulch]

fully upgraded rpg is very good

[rain glen]

i feel this doom the dark ages game will be another doom 3 situation. where doom 3 gets alot of "hate" they take a break come back with something like in doom 2016.

[oak acorn]

yeah the few times i've tried it with no upgrades it does like no damage

[loud gulch]

thats true, but im more of a style > substance type guy LOL

[vital rapids]

I love how this actually feels like a current title
I can run UE5 games just fine, but alt-tabbing out of Oblivion is like a lottery, like it's 2000 again

[north leaf]

what TDA hate? i am seeing everyone praise the game besides the expected reasons

[boreal sedge]

I think the rocket is better than the grenade launcher but the bounce is just so fun

[loud gulch]

yeah, in that case better off using gl

[oak acorn]

figure as i progress i'll upgrade it and try it out -- trying to give every weapon an equal chance

usually there's a challenge for new weapons anways

[vital flare]

There was a lot of hate in the first days yeah

[rain glen]

oh i just thought that everyone hated the game now because of the flop.

[mild loom]

the TDA hate where everyone and their mother decided to hate on the game because it was new

[mild loom]

idk, if anything we all love the game

[mental gate]

the hate is so overblown. it may seems like this game is controversial if your on reddit or discord, but the truth is most people like the game. Sitting at a 85% on steam, and thats even with it getting review bombed due to forced RT and the crappy launch.

[oak acorn]

even on pre release steam reviews were mostly positive -- altho apparently nvidia's driver shitshow cause a HUGE headache for a lot of ppl with 50 series cards

[frail bloom]

It has a 3.8/5 on google reviews

[loud gulch]

YES.

[north leaf]

its basically between eternal and 2016, right where i expected. amazing fun but not the insane high of eternal which is expected

[mild loom]

i actually dont mind the fact that they made it forced, its still accesible for old gpus

[boreal sedge]

When you sponsor a title and can't even get your drivers right for it lmao

[burnt moss]

well idk about other difficulties i only play nightmare so i need heals every 4 seconds and the rpg gets me to full when i need it

[north leaf]

||oh and the last boss is hands down the best last boss in modern doom. much better than the icon of sin fight|| spoiler justincase

[rain glen]

cool. excellent thats all i needed to hear

[mental gate]

people who think this game is overwhelmingly hated or controversial need to close discord and actually read reviews. people get in a echochamber and rage over nothing.

[vital flare]

Not just 50s, many did
I originally wanted to race my friends on the pre release, but they had constant freezes and crashes so we gave up on that plan lol

One of them fixed the problem by rolling back to an older driver version at least.

[loud gulch]

for me it beats the icon of sin but it doesnt beat the spider mastermind imo

its just spam parry+chainshot until he dies

[vital rapids]

lol, I just maxed out mfg out of curiosity and it was pulling 356 fps
I turned it off out of sheer fear of frying my new GPU
normal fps will do just fine ty

[oak acorn]

man idk wtf is going on with nvida with now. melting power cables. $4k 5090s that blue screen all the time. CONSTANT issues with new titles where the advice is always (roll back the drivers). it's almost like they don't give af about gamers anymore

[loud gulch]

real tho.

[rain glen]

seems most of the overwhelimg hates are fans of dsp and grummz

[simple mist]

Fighting game players do this at naseum

[frail bloom]

Reviews were more understanding but it still sits ay a 3.8/5 from all the one star review(google)

[cloud steppe]

plasma rifle needs a recoil reduction upgrade

[mental gate]

Its an excellent game, but not for everyone. dont go in expecting eternal, or you probably wont enjoy it. let the game teach you its mechanics and go with it and you will really enjoy it

[mild loom]

as tradition

[loud gulch]

theres THE cycler for a reason

[rain glen]

i know im currently playing it

[north leaf]

beats spider mastermind hands down so hard i didnt even mention it. you are basically comparing a big superheavy demon vs fighting a DMC boss but in first person, its not even close

[wheat sigil]

you were right the first time with ad in front of nauseum xd

[loud gulch]

💔

it did feel like i was playing against vergil tho

[north leaf]

like spider mastermind could be a freaking cool superheavy in tda and i wouldnt think it strange. i just rly like TDA's last boss.

[oak acorn]

on steam? when I checked the early access ones, i only browsed a few, but most were positive, and the overall score said mostly positive. most of the negative ones were due to technical issues (which i mean, hard to feel sorry for those ppl when they paid $100 to play an early access title), and then the handful of people who didn't like the gameplay

which are both fair criticisms

[mental gate]

brother if you have to go by google reviews to prove that the game is "controversial", youve already lost. You can just not like the game man. also a 4/5 is not bad at all?

[cloud steppe]

the shield's upgrade tree sucks, it should let you unlock in any order, there are some abilities I don't care about using like rebounding my shield off energy shields

[frail bloom]

What no I love it I just thought google reviews meant smt lol

[boreal sedge]

Almost like?

[burnt moss]

idk for me it felt less epic and climatic than the icon of sin fight. the "now is the time. 2 titans meet, as it was written" line from eternal is so good. this final boss didnt even really feel like one in my opinion it just felt like some regular boss midway through the game

[orchid marten]

My biggest issue with this game is the way they make certain guns feel useless over others. For example the different weapon "mods" you get. There is not really any real reason to use the grenade launcher over the rocket launcher. There is no real reason to use the Accelerator over the cycler. I like the other doom games because every single gun and mod had a really good use in different scenarios but in this game there are some guns that hardly ever get value and some guns that are outright useless in most fights. Its disappointing cause the designs were so cool

[burnt moss]

you get me

[oak acorn]

im sure any user review platform that doesn't require the review to own the game and have time spent playing it before leaving a review would tell a different story -- not just for tda, but any game

[boreal sedge]

Lmao nvidia only cares about what makes them money, and right now that's ai, not gamers

[mental gate]

yep. some of the guns are straight trash and you should just never use them

[burnt moss]

cycler is the only good automatic weapon

[loud gulch]

nvidiAI

[burnt moss]

shredder is so useless imo its the worst weapon

[loud gulch]

bro nvidia backwards is literally aidivn. AI divn (AI driven??)

[boreal sedge]

The grenade launcher is more fun than the rocket launcher

[oblique fjord]

i’m gonna push your eyes in

[mild loom]

plasma guns, auto nail gun. other than that everything is actually alright

[north leaf]

yeah the icon fight had good buildup, but fighting him he's basically just an environment hazard in a combat arena. in TDA im feeling like im duking it out exchanging blows and going back and forth, i think this is fps boss design taken to its absolute limit in terms of visual presentation and "choreography"

e: oh and im talking about the ||first time you fight the boss||

[oak acorn]

they are publicly traded, so i get that. but still -- they have to resources and skilled workers and money to keep these driver issues from happening and it's embarassing. plus gaming still makes up like 20% of their profits i believe

[wheat sigil]

yeah if you're gonna construct a large arsenal, make sure all of it actually serves a purpose lol

[oblique fjord]

but it honestly makes it up by making all the guns very very unique and cool with different purposes

[boreal sedge]

It absolutely is embarrassing yeah

[loud gulch]

the accelerator and the shredder is just straight ass. i cant find a single person who uses them over their counterpart

[mental gate]

yeah well i hate to break it to you, thats not changing anytime soon. AMD is the same way. the future of GPUs is gpus primarilly focused on AI and RT with relatively little rasterization

[vital flare]

Impaler? I used it on the last boss fight almost exclusively

[simple mist]

Doom 2016 had a bigger issue with weapon balance tbh

[burnt moss]

and ill pull yours out so you can finally see the truth

[boreal sedge]

Oh I know that, it's the way it is now

[mild loom]

no the impaler is absolutely busted, i mean the automatic versionof that gun

[loud gulch]

hes talking about the accelerator and the shredder i think

[orchid marten]

Just looking at the Pulverizer and ravager. Probably the most useless guns in the game. Not only do they slow your movement speed while firing they deal pretty low damage and barely have good range. I tried using them but they just get outclassed by literally everything else

[vital flare]

Ah the ravager

No wait u mean the shredder gotcha

[mild loom]

fr, i dont even like the cycler or the accelerator. I love the ravenger and pulverzer tho

[loud gulch]

both guns are ass. those are the only guns i didnt upgrade at all

[north leaf]

i used shredder like half my game lol, the ricochet gimmick is surprisingly strong, plus i am a tracking aim kind of fps gamer

[mild loom]

?? both guns boost your movement speed by a tonne

[loud gulch]

maxed out cycler is pretty op against heavys and fodders tho. I love the sound and design too lol

[mild loom]

the only guns in the game that actual boost movement speed, what are you on dawg

[orchid marten]

With an upgrade. The guns on their own dont work well

[mental gate]

pulveraizer does not slow movement, it increases it by a lot. and the ravager is unbelieviably busted, has basically the highest dps in the game

[mild loom]

i love everything about the weapon except for the damage, it just feels so weak to me

[oak acorn]

i mean -- im okay with ai-enhanced rendering and if it means trading fake lighting for real lighting. i'll even accept fake frames as a tradeoff in some cases. but sadly ai isn't just for gaming

[wild rose]

Bruh it took me 21 hours to complete the campaign. People making it on 14 were speed running

[loud gulch]

i used to be cracked at quake live, yet i dont even like the shredder. I mean up to you if you wanna use it i dont mind

[burnt moss]

oh the ||enhanced azhrak|| fight definitely felt cooler and more intense than the ||ahzrak and witch|| fight

[mental gate]

probably just didnt read the weapon descriptions

[mild loom]

and upgrades arent very hard to get lmao

[loud gulch]

shredder is pretty satisfying to use on the early chapters tho

[mental gate]

took me 30 to 100% the game. all achievements

[mild loom]

"hate it because you havent bothered to read the desc"

[north leaf]

ye my bad, i was talking about that one. with the fromsoft phase switches and all

[mild loom]

im almost at 100%, i just got 3 more

[oblique fjord]

75 gold and is the first upgrade you can get🥀

[wild rose]

Accelerator actually has a higher DPS than Cycler

[orchid marten]

But a gun relying on an upgrade to make it remotely useful is bad design. That was never the case in any doom game before

[loud gulch]

the recoil is a turn off for me

[oblique fjord]

yeah personally i cannot consume games that fast💔

[loud gulch]

like im not playing cod bro 💔

[mental gate]

most of the guns are bad without upgrades. the rocket launcher is literally useless without them

[burnt moss]

the shock effect on the cycler negs the accelerator

[oak acorn]

i'm track to take a little longer than that, on ultra nightmare -- probably gonna be closer to 40. but i'm kinda stupid when it comes to finding secrets, im not using a guide, and anyways i'm trying not to rush the experience TOO much

[loud gulch]

i maxed out my cycler early game and it rules heavys and fodders EASILY

[oak acorn]

this is the only time i'll ever get to play tda for the first time

[oblique fjord]

how’d you get the pfp shield thinggamaboberson

[mental gate]

i mean i was going very slow. i take my time with games. i also replayed levels many times

[delicate grotto]

I love the upgrades in this game.
TDA has more mechanical depth than Eternal.
There’s so many different, unique things you can do with every gun and melee.

[boreal sedge]

When I say they care about AI I don't mean "don't use ai for games" I mean that nvidia's focus is on enterprise and running ai models for companies, not gamers. Regardless of ai tech in games

[mental gate]

discord quest, cant do it anymore

[loud gulch]

it took me 12 hours and i was playing casual 😭

[north leaf]

get the auto turret with it and you feel like a walking gun constantly shooting at everything, its great from a pure presentation + sound aspect.

[oblique fjord]

yeah i’m actually gonna go cry now🥀

[loud gulch]

the rest of the 13 hours i spent playing the game was just collecting and filling the other save slots

[burnt moss]

i just shield throw to kill fodder i dont remember the last time i killed a fodder with a gun other than for fun

[oblique fjord]

shoulder gun perk for sheild is so gas

[oak acorn]

i know. that's why i said sadly ai isn't just for games at the end.

[mental gate]

i mean its pretty ugly and only temporary anyway. i lose it in like 3 weeks

[loud gulch]

i kill groups of fodders with the pulverizer and the cycler and not the shield throw am i crazy

[vital flare]

I use shield throw or mace when I need ammo.

[burnt moss]

power gauntlet >>> every other melee argue with a wall

[wheat sigil]

i mainly use the combat shotgun for that, literally free armor lol

[mental gate]

why waste time and ammo when its one button press

[oak acorn]

i guess i just specified i don't mind ai enhancements for gaming because for some ppl upscaling and fake frames are a touchy subject

[loud gulch]

i just use the flail cuz it gives ammo and armor if maxed ou

[vital flare]

Hehe funny mace go bonk

[boreal sedge]

Shield charge + impaler headshot + melee wash rinse repeat

[loud gulch]

because its fun
style > substance for me

[oak acorn]

yeah flail gives more ammo and for every time too, i believe

[vital flare]

Impaler headshot so good, dudes look like pinhead when I'm done

[loud gulch]

i dont like the mace cuz i dont get to frequently use it 💔

[teal spire]

ive just experienced my first crash of the game

[oblique fjord]

i spam the holy hell out of sheild throw

[loud gulch]

thats your first one, theres gonna be ALOT more iin the future, trust me

[burnt moss]

being able to faulter EVERY enemy in the game with the absolutely absurd uptime that it has is crazy

[orchid marten]

Wait the impaler does that? I used my impaler when i did the final boss fight and bro had needles sticking out everywhere. I thought that was just his design lmao

[oak acorn]

dude i LOVE that i get to pop heads in a doom game -- playing it without the slowdown time feature makes it even more enjoyable

[oblique fjord]

that thing is genuinely never in my hands for more than 4 seconds

[vital flare]

Yeah lol

[orchid marten]

You can see the needles in his face when the cutscenes played, thats why i assumed it was design

[teal spire]

im on chapter 16...

[vital flare]

That was actually hilarious yeah

[burnt moss]

it literally diffs every other shield rune its so busted

[loud gulch]

ok nvm wtf

[oak acorn]

one of the first impaler upgrades is more headshot damage i believe

[orchid marten]

No its you get ammo for doing things with your shield

[oak acorn]

further down the line it gives melee charges

[oblique fjord]

the more things that my character is doing the cooler the gameplay is

[teal spire]

i think its either my settings bc my pc isnt great so i had to optimise it or just because i got it on game pass and all the main crashes ive seen have been on the steam one

[stuck basin]

Sir who to join guests?

[orchid marten]

I use the game over the gamepass on pc. The "crash" i encountered the most is when i opened the map too often in a short duration the map would just go black and freeze my game

[oak acorn]

not sure why some ppl are getting crashing but i did get a single one -- no idea why, happened 7 hours into a session -- never crashed again that tho

[teal spire]

for me i was doing a melee attack

[oak acorn]

it was the mech mission that crashed -- the first one

maybe the environmental destruction was too much for my cpu or something

[teal spire]

grrr now i have to restart the chapter!

[oak acorn]

altho im nore sure if that stuff is gpu bound in id tech

[oblique fjord]

bosses in this game are easy as winning a fight to a baby

[vital flare]

You're on a 3080 too right? Me too and our GPU is the recommended spec for DTA so I assume they did lots of testing with it, so we got really lucky. 0 problems whatsoever

[oblique fjord]

on nightmare too dude it’s like not fair for the demons

[teal spire]

im on a 2080 and its holding its ground

[orchid marten]

Yea i agree. The boss fights are so underwhelming in this game

[boreal sedge]

7800xt and I've only gotten 1 crash, I have run into a fair amount of gameplay/visual bugs but usually reloading fixes them

[oblique fjord]

chainshot parry parry chainshot parry parry parry chainshot super shot gun parry parry chainshot mace mace parry chainshot glory kill

gameplay loop for bosses is horrible

aside from that gameplay loop for everything else has me on a leash

[orchid marten]

Honestly the fastest way i killed them was just spamming the impaler with the upgrade that charges your shot after every parry

I dont like how they kinda took the whole emphasize on using the whole arsenal away

[mental gate]

I had a few crashes on a 7900 XTX, but almost all were at startup or when changing graphics settings. Though I did have a really bad one on the final level that crashed my whole pc

[boreal sedge]

I just parry then hit them with the flail then parry then flail, then shoot, then flail, then parry then shoot over and over until they die

[teal spire]

i havent used any weapon but ssg since i got it

[boreal sedge]

Ssg + impaler for me

[mental gate]

Though in retrospect I probably could have just restarted the GPU driver and been fine. Didn't blue screen or anything, just black screen

[boreal sedge]

The meta never changes they can't keep getting away with it

[oak acorn]

from what i read in the troubleshooting guide by bethesda most crashes were from ppl using nvida cards with ryzen cpu's -- which, i mean, that's like most pc gamers right?? not helpful. I will say tho that i had to reinstall windows 11 completely when path of exile 2 came out because 24h2 would cause the game to crash CONSTANTLY if you had a zen 3 cpu. game was basically unplayable -- workaround was to disable one of the cores in windows task manager to make crash half as often but also made run slower

[burnt moss]

keep it that way its not that worth switching

[oak acorn]

so idk -- maybe it's a windows issue

probably an nvidia issue tho, and i suspect it's mostly 5000 series cards that are crashing

[vital flare]

Yeah I'm on a 3080 with Ryzen too

And yeah the crashes and freezes and disconnects on poe2 release were extremely prevalent for almost EVERYONE lol

[boreal sedge]

All 3 modern doom games can be played with ssg + long range high damage gun

[oblique fjord]

yeah super shotgun wide sheild gets you through like ALL of the game

[orchid marten]

ssg honestly feels really bad in this game which is weird. Ssg was always the prime gun in all of the dooms but in this game it kinda feels bad. The combat shotgun clears the ssg just alone for the reason that it gives constant shield in every fight

[crisp arrow]

apparently it's because of the Ryzen's iGPU. I have that disabled in the bios since I bought my 7800x3d and I had zero crashes so far

[orchid marten]

Only time i use the ssg is when i fight a cyber demon or the makyr bossfight

[oak acorn]

dude i had to completely reinstall windows because it was too late to roll back to 23h2 -- once i did though, poe 2 stopped crashing

[wild rose]

How lmao?

[vital flare]

Huh lol

[unreal python]

Real quick, is this a common visual bug or is it because my GPU (4050 laptop GPU, so only 6gb VRAM ;-;) sucks #videos message

[wild rose]

What if I spent too much time on the main menu lmao

[oak acorn]

i've stayed on 23h2 since -- tbh, i've heard nothing but complaints about 24h2 and literally not being to play poe 2 with my friends when it came out sucked

[novel solstice]

rtx 2050 notbook ryzen 5 com 32gb ram

how configto play dark ages

[vital flare]

If you subscribed to slayer's club updates you'll get a summary mail with your stats after you finished your first run. The time will be without menu etc

[novel solstice]

DOOM

[boreal sedge]

I've gotten that in other games but not this one yet

[boreal sedge]

Doom

[wild rose]

How do I do that?

[novel solstice]

slayer's club updates

[tropic path]

Yo we have the OG Doom Guy face for our HUD that shits sick

[unreal python]

So it's probably because I'm skimping on VRAM, okay. Thank you

[tropic path]

I just discovered that

[oak acorn]

i love how slayer's club isn't forced in order to play the game

[wild rose]

Wtf we also have extra lives on Ultranightmare? Gang is this right?

[oak acorn]

cough rockstar cough

[oblique fjord]

yeah dude horrible take💔💔💔

[remote thunder]

play un for like 2 minutes and you'll figure out what that means

[vital flare]

https://freebundle.bethesda.net/en-US#signUpPanel

[iron oxide]

I thought that was just the specific "extra lives" difficulty?

[wild rose]

Same. If this is the case Pandemonic and UN has no difference

[iron oxide]

I'm guessing they just give you extra HP / shield or something

[wild rose]

I'm 5 minutes in lmao. Didn't figure out. I can collect extra lives

[remote thunder]

extra lives on UN are just a full heal

[iron oxide]

Do they show up on your HUD though?

[wild rose]

Oh I allowed them to kill me, I returned to the main menu lmao

[oak acorn]

eh -- sure it gives some free armor, but i'd rather have higher dps and kill a particularly dangerous enemy more quickly because when you've got 3 imps,, a revenant, and a potato with a turret all fighting you at once i wanna kill em fast as possible

[wild rose]

Why do they show the 3 icons on the HUD so?

[vital flare]

Yeah it's the regular supercharge on UN

[remote thunder]

it's a visual bug

[orchid marten]

Just not much reason to use the ssg honestly. If i want heavy close up damage i got other alternatives that do the Job better. Only real time i saw the ssg be useful is taking out a mancubus i stunned, the cyber demon or the makyr bossfight 🤷‍♂️

[oak acorn]

pretty much use impaler, super shotgun, or that gun that shoots a metal ball for bosses now

[orchid marten]

Mabye i just need to play around with the ssg more but as of now it honestly feels underwhelming asf

[oak acorn]

bosses / special demons

[wild rose]

We can also cheat UN by going to the main menu when we're about to die?

[teal spire]

my only complaint with the actual game itself is that its too easy

[wild rose]

You can change that

[oak acorn]

upgrade the reload speed at least -- it's less easy to fuck up and miss than with the impalor or metal baseball chain gun

[vital flare]

I think the save file writing happens live

[next oar]

alt-f4 works

[wild rose]

Wdym?

[teal spire]

i really was expecting something a bit more like doom eternal in terms of difficulty

[vital flare]

It will delete your save file the moment you die

[teal spire]

instead its even easier than 2016

[vital flare]

At least it was this way for me

[iron oxide]

Is there anywhere where we can submit, like really specific feedback about how the game?

Specifically I've noticed that with sliders "maxed out" (difficulty-wise), you're stuck in a situation where projectiles are too fast to dodge a good chunk of the time, but you also can't use your shield much at all because it "breaks" after blocking a single attack. I played up until level... 5, I think, like that, until deciding the combat loop kind of just breaks because of it. Like, I really want to see someone do it because I'm curious to see how it's possible. I genuinely think shield health should be disconnected from the damage enemies deal a bit.

[wild rose]

That's why I say we can cheat it by going to the main menu when ur about to die

[oak acorn]

dude I HATE the game's single save checkpoint system. I back up my save folder every ten minutes or so in order to keep 3 or more saves before my current one -- i got checkpoint saved TWICE into a softlock in two different missions and i was an hour each into them

[iron oxide]

(Which, yeah, if anyone's complaining about Game Too Easy seriously just crank those sliders and you'll see what I mean)

[vital flare]

I don't know what you mean then, clip it and tag me

[iron oxide]

Weird thing is BASE nightmare, yeah, it isn't too tough

[wild rose]

You just restart the entire level instead of the entire campaign

[next oar]

ur health low, go to main menu

[vital flare]

Hm yeah Baldur's Gate let us keep like 100 save files lol

[split saddle]

Lmao what

[terse hollow]

They just gave the doom guy a bunch of buffs / new things but forgot to buff everyhing else😅 at least thats what it feels like. I also thought it felt a bit easier

[vital flare]

Oh it happens way too fast imo but you guys can try it

[unreal raven]

where should i report a bug ?

[oak acorn]

having to restart them because of that SUCKED -- love tda but I HATE checkpoint saves, in fact, i hate anything that doesn't just let you save whenever, and however you want

[next oar]

thats his method ig, alt-f4 worked for me

[vital flare]

[wild rose]

When you press pause in regular game, there are a few options like restarting the map, restarting from checkpoint and exiting the game, going to the main menu. In UN the only option you have is going to the main menu, but it restarts the level

[wild rose]

So it works

[vital flare]

If you're fast enough to do that sure, might work

I'm on 20/22 now so I don't wanna try it

[wild rose]

On UN?

[iron oxide]

Crank enemy damage, nerf your own, crank projectile speed, reduce the parry window, you'll get your sweaty Doom trust me

[oak acorn]

haha -- i remember it filled my entire steam cloud save library limit before they put a 25 could save per campaign limit on the steam version. but bg3 is a good example of how saving should work in a game -- incentivice people away from save scumming by offering tempting rewards like honour mode achievments n stuff

[vital flare]

Yes

[wild rose]

If I die after mission 10 on UN I'll try UN again but I'll put Slayer's damage on 300 and enemy damage at 10%

[vital flare]

Wish me luck

[remote thunder]

try ultra nightmare

[oak acorn]

and for ppl wanna save scum -- let them. just without an achievement from them and make it part of custom difficulty or something

[terse hollow]

Will have to try this, much appreciated😅

[wild rose]

I'll get that skin

[wild rose]

You have passed through the worst already

[vital flare]

Yep ch19 was hell

[slim crypt]

no let me save scum in peace

[oak acorn]

but in 2025 not being able to quicksave, or worse, having only a SINGLE save that, if it fails, means restarting the entire mission -- that's maybe my single biggest complaint about the game

[wild rose]

Which mission is this tho? Inside Tchululu stomach?

[split saddle]

The harbor

[vital flare]

After that one

[wild rose]

Dude it's just one mode lmao

[wintry fossil]

I have officially gotten my mother into Doom.

[oak acorn]

like wtf -- i had to replay almost 2 hours of tda because of 2 freakin checkpoint softlocks -- wtf. it's 2025. that shouldnot happen

[teal spire]

wait what???

[wild rose]

Wtf r u on?

[wintry fossil]

I told her about the game and she actually likes it

[wild rose]

Is this guy real?

[vital flare]

Gj! I got my lil brother into Doom

[split saddle]

I don’t see the issue, if the game softlocks then it gives me another reason to kill more demons again …

[slim crypt]

you get to play 2 more hours of doom sounds like peak to me

[wintry fossil]

Agreed

[oak acorn]

like i said -- i got softlocked in 2 different missions in tda, and loading the latest checkpoint didn't help because the save occured AFTER i was stopped from progressing

[wild rose]

I got it tho

[slim crypt]

this game is so good where i wouldn’t mind softlocks resetting me bc of how fun it is

[wild rose]

2 days ago

[split saddle]

womp womp

[vital flare]

Oh idk then maybe you'll still get it or check spam

[oak acorn]

so i had to replay those missions from start -- being an hour into them it was INFURIATING

[teal spire]

i hope that the dlc does what the eternal dlc did and makes it harder

[wild rose]

What are those?

[slim crypt]

what are what

[teal spire]

softlocks i think

[split saddle]

I mean the game is pretty hard already …

Did you beat it? What difficulty

[cloud steppe]

um.. where is the music? its been silent for 10 minutes now

[split saddle]

Audio probably bugged out

[teal spire]

im on 17/22 on UV and i've died 2-3 times

[slim crypt]

where situations in a game are playable but further progress is fucked from a glitch or whatever

[oak acorn]

wait, do easier difficulties have quicksave?

[cloud steppe]

im on level 4 or 5 and theres nothing

[remote thunder]

try out pandemonium/ultra nightmare after you're done with that

[silent surge]

load checkpoint

[oak acorn]

because ultra violence doesn't as far as i can tell

[plain tartan]

FOV SLIDER not working for anyone else? PC.

[teal spire]

i've only got it for a week

[silent surge]

what missions?

[split saddle]

Ultra violence 😭 fair enough I guess

[cloud steppe]

ok it's back

[next oar]

yea i had the same issue, music at the wrong times or just no music, had to use doom 2016 and eternals ost lol

[slim crypt]

i’m doing my un run rn

[vital flare]

GL jinx

[split saddle]

Tell them to increase the game and projectile speed, they will instantly fold

[remote thunder]

increased proj speed is unfair, idk about that

[slim crypt]

there’s definitely mfs doing 1000% damage to demons and 50% damage to self on ultra nightmare rn 💀💀💀

[wintry fossil]

Im playing Ultra Nightmare on 150 game speed and max projectile speed.

Hell

[split saddle]

150% game speed is wild

[silent surge]

it’s fun

[split saddle]

For sure 😭

[oak acorn]

siege part 1 -- the lever in the portal cave at the south end of the map didn't work, so i was locked in. it worked when i restarted the mission, but loading the checkpoint did not fix it. forge -- i somehow fell out of the map entirely, and loading from checkpoint just loaded me back into an infinite falling out of bounds with no way back to the game. idk maybe i could have used a console command to kill myself but i was pretty upset since like i said, you might find it fun randomly losing an hour or so of progress with zero warning or way to stop it, but i don't.

[slim crypt]

i’m doing this shit raw difficultly i wanna cry 😭

[split saddle]

I’m playing it on 120% I don’t know how people manage to do it on 150%, might increase it to 130% and see how it is

150% game speed I would be constantly in critical health 😭

[oak acorn]

just take a bunch of adderall to even it out

[slim crypt]

i might put game speed up tho but idk if that fucks with skin rewards

[remote thunder]

it's a reaction check, that's about it

[oak acorn]

yeah im afraid to touch the sliders -- not sure how it effects achievements

[slim crypt]

apparently they don’t affect anything from what i heard

[oak acorn]

assuming beating it ultra violence even has its own achievement

[cloud steppe]

thought the triple barrel for shotgun would be good but you chew through ammo too quickly

[vital flare]

Same
Keeping it base

[oak acorn]

i did see there is an achievement for doing at least the first mission on a custom difficulty tho

but yeah i wanna platinum the game game eventually

[slim crypt]

i’m like 60% for platinum

i forgot what grass looks like

[oak acorn]

dude i saw posts on reddit with ppl platinuming the game like less than 16 hours after pre release

[vital flare]

Yeah it's not as much grind this time
Eternal was way longer

[wild rose]

Yeah I couldn't get those Slayer club's notifications

[oak acorn]

crazy -- i already know i'm rushing thru this game faster than i should, this is the only time i'll ever get to play it for the first time. but it's so damn addicting and fun

[sudden arch]

Yall is premium worth it?

I already pre ordered standard, should I upgrade or no?

[vital flare]

Yee I went in on a new save slot on nightmare with 150% speed but the sound is yikes :D I deleted that save after village

[oak acorn]

wait WTF it effects sound? omg that's... idk if i can do that

lmao

[wheat sigil]

ammo isn't really an issue, that's still like 10 shots from full to zero ammo

[oak acorn]

i have literally never had ammo issues in tda. there's always fodder spawning somewhere, just run way and find em, bash em, and you're good to go again

ultra violence difficulty tho

[patent robin]

only time ive had ammo issues is fighting super heavy leader demons

[oak acorn]

not the hardest

[wheat sigil]

same, i'm playing on the lowest amount of drops too

[oak acorn]

also bashing bosses gives ammo too, yeah? and since i love my impaler bc headshots give melee charges, as well as shield throws at fodder, it never runs short

it's only the energy weapons i tend to run out of ammo for but i've only used the one that you need to literally empty it to get the challenge

[azure anchor]

this game just seems to get better and better the more i play it

is this game going to get mod support eventually for console

[jaunty canyon]

Hello,
Do you also get extremely low resolution megatextures in some areas?
I use the highest graphics settings, my VRAM usage is below the amount of VRAM I have, and (for example) in the ancestral forge, I get Rage like blury ground textures in some spots of the map (that is a game from 2011!). Extremely blocky/blurry stuff.
It is like if I would play a console game from a decade ago.
Is that really how it is, or something is wrong on my end?

[patent robin]

could be your texture pool size?

[jaunty canyon]

4K

[oak acorn]

so.. df has a video and it covers vram and textures. even maxed out -- alex's opinion is that they're not as high quality as most triple aaa 2025 releases. it seems more due to id going more for geometry, material layering, shaders, lighting, parallax or whatever that stuff is that things look rough, etc -- in order to achieve detail on surfaces rathers than simply using massive sized textures.

at least that's a hypothesis

as someone with a 10 gig vram card tho -- the textures look like, well, the same as a game with textures on max from 4 years ago

[tough sky]

The textures are low no matter the texture setting

It’s why the game is a decent size and how they can make each scene so detailed with so many unique textures. It’s how they’re done it since rage

[oak acorn]

considering id put a LOT of work into their layered materials rendering (which is why every surface gets layers peeled away when shot at, enemies lose skin, muscle, bone, and eventually bones then entire limbs when shot at, etc).

[tough sky]

I’ll take more texture variety over more texture detail and inflated game sizes

And the textures are better than eternal

Like everything is better

https://youtu.be/cFD5v561Ga8?si=cHq7ZidmyDeCiEGv

[slim crypt]

“why is the game giving me advice on new enemies i haven’t encountered yet” ??

are you deadass dawg? 💀

[late crystal]

Where do I go to talk about my missing void skin?

[slim crypt]

this was in eternal too it’s just a tip lmao

people complain about the most minuscule thing slmao

they do that in other doom games too wtf is this chat lmao

[vital flare]

You can turn tutorials off when you start a new save

[pseudo hedge]

anyone know how to get the doom quest to pop off in discord so i can get shield

[slim crypt]

it isn’t telling you how to kill it btw.

it’s telling what the gold armor does becuase you have weapons that dont do as much damage omg

i’m in a mental asylum

[delicate grotto]

You don’t gotta get pressed man. So many AAA games have to add in obvious tutorials for casual players. Turn them off if you want.

[slim crypt]

“focus audience must have been 5 years old”

[thorny shore]

the hell is happening here?

[delicate grotto]

Imagine rage quitting a game over a fucking tutorial. Lmao.
Yet you complain the demographic is 5 years old.

[plain iron]

Ever considered that some folk have disorders that makes it hard to learn and need things directly said to them

[mental grotto]

How sad is your life that you are getting this mad at something like this

[slim crypt]

mf complains about a tutorial on a certain enemy which has been a thing in eternal

[pseudo hedge]

worst part is most dont let you turn off tutorials doom does and i like that alot

[mental gate]

You can turn tutorials off moron

[slim crypt]

it’s just explaining you what the gold armor means holy shit ur attention span is dogshit

[delicate grotto]

Good
Don’t play the game if it upsets you this much.

[mental grotto]

Don’t mess with us doom fans we hate our own games

[oak acorn]

i kinda get it -- the game uses rtgi, so the textures aren't prebaked and simplicity might actually benefit textures due how dynamically their appearance can change due to real time lighting. also, there are shaders to consider, doubly so considering every surface can deform uniquely as it takes damage due to amount of reactivity thanks to the complex materials systems, then there's weather effecting textures, not just rain, but wind too (aka foliage and trees will change movement direction along with rain and volumetric fog), smoke, blood, debris, stuff that end up covering surfaces more often than in most games. hell, the game doesn't just have a wind system -- for example, detonations will cause foliage, for example, to react to explosions by bending to the pressure from them. TDA is one of the most visually reactive games I've every played, going WAY beyond just lots of destructable objects -- so super high res textures might have been a poor choice due to performance cost, space issues, vram usage (cutting into stuff like frame gen), mostly due to how dynamically their appearance can be effected by SO many things -- not just bullet hole decals or blood splatter.

[mental gate]

Imagine rage quitting on the tutorial. At least the GameSpot cuphead guy actually got past it eventually

[slim crypt]

calling people babies while ur alt f4 over text on a screen 😭

[thorny shore]

is this about doom eternal or dark ages?

[sleek ermine]

would you mind explaining how exactly

[slim crypt]

would you have known what the gold armor does or mean without the text?

[delicate grotto]

Don’t mess with us Doom fans, we don’t like appealing to a casual players. We’d rather gatekeep and get upset when the game tries to be accessible for everyone.

[slim crypt]

mfs never played doom in there lives lmao

[mental gate]

By explaining it simply and briefly and then giving the player an organic way to try it out and learn it themselves.
You know, the thing the game already does

[slim crypt]

cry

[oak acorn]

yeah it's called turning off tutorials. it's in the options menu

oops meant to respond to the other guy

[real lynx]

Eternal had this for weakpoints lol

[slim crypt]

have you played 2016 or eternal?

[supple oracle]

You can turn off the tutorials before you play

[mental gate]

Are we gonna pretend that tda isn't massively more complex in its mechanics?

[sleek ermine]

That’s what is happening in the original message lmfao

[delicate grotto]

It gets annoying. But here’s the thing: You can turn them off. I don’t because if the game finds it important enough to pause the game and explain something, I want to know what it might be. Some are obvious and some not so much.

[thorny shore]

those games was simple, click in the direction of the bad guys, the new ones are way more complex, there's gonna be tutorials

[mental grotto]

God fucking forbid 3.4 seconds of my time are wasted on something I can either A. Just skip and live with it or B. Turn it off in the settings

[slim crypt]

i was born in 2005 but either way i still play classic doom dipshit

[plain iron]

have you considered that folk need things directly explained to em bcs they are mentally disabled

[real lynx]

You can turn it off

[mental gate]

Ok buddy we get it, games made after 2002 are too complex for your tiny little brain. Now stop having a meltdown over a text box

[pseudo hedge]

classics were simple gameplay wise as you just needed doged and shoot kinda like half life run think shoot live

[slim crypt]

literally grew up on manhunt which is the opposite of hand holding but sure weirdo

[delicate grotto]

2004 here. Played Doom 3 as a kid. Then the classics. Then 2016 came out only a couple years later. Was perfect timing for me, lol.

[oak acorn]

idk TDA's toturial popups felt pretty consise, short, informative, and took less than ten seconds to go over -- not too disrupting imo, and they didn't happen constantly, mostly just at the begging of the game and then occasionally when getting a new weapon

[mental grotto]

So what I’m hearing is that games from 30 years ago should be exactly the same as games today got it, very insightful take

[plain iron]

Mm. No growth.