the-dark-ages

[candid jay]

gold chests/life sigils might be the only ones that doesn't show marked properly on the map so their secrets might be the most annoying ones to find smh i hope i don't have more of these in the other missions

[dusty halo]

I don't mind doom 3 being connected because to me many iterations of hell is still "hell"

[shrewd mountain]

I had no idea she played commander thira, but now that I know, I cannot unhear it

[slim crypt]

i think a couple levels of hell and an easter egg doesn’t warrant main timeline

[dusty halo]

I'm looking up what she has appeared in and she was in new vegas too. It's crazy seeing her footprint in that regard.

[long sparrow]

Yep, some of the gold stashes count as well, I noticed, so yeah it's better to walk to every gold/sigil/chest

[shrewd mountain]

I think the design and evolution of the demons warrant it being between TDA and 2016, IN HELLS TIMELINE, not the same modern doom universe timeline

[dusty halo]

All I'm asking for it Gianna Matranagro to appear in doom eternal.

[shrewd mountain]

Because they share the same hell, that's 100% canon

[slim crypt]

the only way i can agree putting doom 3 in main time line even if it objectively makes no sense is by putting it over doom 1 and 2

[dusty halo]

I think doom 3 exists independently.

[candid jay]

yea, its just sad they are already picked up/ not even there anymore and alr checked on the map yet the secret was bugged i guess, gud for me to rmber so ik what i might still miss next

[slim crypt]

and even then i’d rather put it by itself

[shrewd mountain]

My idea is that after the events of TDA, hell invaded a version of earth outside of the sentinel timeline

[dusty halo]

Doom 3 was always mean to be a retelling originally but I think it should just exist as that.

[shrewd mountain]

It does, but it shares the same hell

[slim crypt]

agreed it’s unanimously accepted pretty much

[slim crypt]

yeah but still a couple levels of hell doesn’t warrant it

doom 3 had very little hell levels

[shrewd mountain]

Not just hell levels, the demon designs also prove it, and it was confirmed by id

[dusty halo]

Like I said, You can have as many iterations of hell but it's still hell and it's pretty overt in how it behaves in another dimension.

[slim crypt]

very cool tho btw it was confirmed canon tho i will say

[reef ocean]

I finished the game. It was fun overall. But idk how old the parry and counter mechanics will last in terms of long term gameplay. I feel the combat is so much more dynamic and smooth with eternal compared to dark ages. Still fun though.

[shrewd mountain]

Plus hell is infinite and has different sections to it

[dusty halo]

When I was 10? Thanks to doom 3 I always thought that hell was the same hell from original doom just with its own drama.

[shrewd mountain]

The doom 3 hell could be far off from 2016's hell, but it's the same hell

[dusty halo]

"Oh yeah in this dimension we lost the soul cube"

Actually that'd be a cool texture mod, replacing the shield throw with the soul cube.

[tight nymph]

hi y'all. excited to play dark ages. anyone use an rog ally? game seems to crash quite a bit

[slim crypt]

Doom.
Doom II.
Doom 64.
Doom Marine chooses to stay in hell.
Doom Marine is found by the Night Sentinels from Argent d'Nur, followed by the various flashback sequences in Doom Eternal. He becomes the Doom Slayer.
Doom: The Dark Ages.
At some unknown point in the future, the Slayer is trapped and sealed away in hell.
Doom (2016).
Samuel sends the Slayer away.
Doom Eternal.
TAG Part 1 and 2.

this is the timeline agreed by mono and a lot of people basically

[shrewd mountain]

Hell has its own subsection, pocket dimensions, a part of argent dnur is taken over by hell but the whole planet still exists

[shrewd mountain]

This is canon

[dusty halo]

I ALWAYS knew that doom 64 was connected to the main universe.

[slim crypt]

yeah hence why 3 ain’t on there

[shrewd mountain]

Doom 3 sits outside of that, but it's still part of hell

[dusty halo]

I remember the description for the doom guy there being he was literally PTSD ridden.

[slim crypt]

i think it’s cooler if that makes sense that doom 3 its own thing

[wanton mauve]

hi ive been trying to trouble shoot this problem for the past 3 hours when i open the game i can hear the sound but it will open in the background and ive tried all the fixes on the doom website but nothing works it opened for me the first time and all i changed was from windowed mode to full screen and it pooped out after that if anyone can help me i would really appriceiate it

[pliant moss]

Does Un with modifiers changed still give the skin?

[reef ocean]

betrugers castle though.

[dusty halo]

It makes a lot of sense why in doom 4 he's literally how he is. He's not just angry he's literally mentally broken.

[reef ocean]

it has to tie in

[shrewd mountain]

Doom 3 exists within the doom multiverse, but not the same as the slayer anthology

Yea betruger has a castle in tag 1

[slim crypt]

anyways doom 3 is top 3. everyone play it and love it

[wanton mauve]

hi ive been trying to trouble shoot this problem for the past 3 hours when i open the game i can hear the sound but it will open in the background and ive tried all the fixes on the doom website but nothing works it opened for me the first time and all i changed was from windowed mode to full screen and it pooped out after that if anyone can help me i would really appriceiate it

[shrewd mountain]

The castle in the blood swamps is titled "betrugers castle" or something like that

[reef ocean]

one of my favs as a action-horror lover. Although, the game does give you tons of ammo.

[shrewd mountain]

Also there's nothing directly contradicting doom 3 in the timeline, except for the hydrocon

[oblique glen]

I've been waiting for another Unreal Tournament for years now. But Doom Eternal managed to be a fine replacement.

[shrewd mountain]

Otherwise, dates in the timeline almost perfectly mesh in with 2016

But the hydrocon is the only thing ruining the theory

[slim crypt]

at this point dawg are you just putting doom 3 in ur main timeline?

[shrewd mountain]

Except the hydrocon was made to extract fuel, water and air, it could be argued argent was made for energy directly instead of relying on the hydrocon

[wanton mauve]

hi ive been trying to trouble shoot this problem for the past 3 hours when i open the game i can hear the sound but it will open in the background and ive tried all the fixes on the doom website but nothing works it opened for me the first time and all i changed was from windowed mode to full screen and it pooped out after that if anyone can help me i would really appriceiate it

[dusty halo]

It's a shame the shamblers aren't fuzzy.

[shrewd mountain]

Its a theory, I know it's probably not true but

[slim crypt]

it’s objectively not true but i wish it was

[shrewd mountain]

Nothing goes against it except the fucking hydrocon

[dusty halo]

That's my ONE gripe. ALso they don't shoot lightning but I think that's fine within the gameplay sense of the game.

[oblique glen]

I am aware 😢

[shrewd mountain]

Fuck the hydrocon, ruining my grand doom timeline theory

Otherwise every date matches up nearly perfectly with doom 3 and 2016

But it's just a theory, a doom theory

[dusty halo]

What's hydrocon again.

[shrewd mountain]

The thing they used to solve the energy crisis

[slim crypt]

if we wanna talk about what id was saying and thinking they were definitely developing doom 3 as a reboot with 0 connectivity in mind besides hell levels being confirmed layer

[dusty halo]

Thought so

[shrewd mountain]

Which was replaced by argent

Except the hydrocon isn't directly a power source, so it could be said they didn't use it for energy directly

[dusty halo]

I refuse to use that forsaken doom wiki, heavily vandalised RHAAAAAA

Hydrocon was literally made for the use of terraforming as well

[slim crypt]

you know what if it makes you happy dawg there is a hell sarcophagus in doom 3 with a stone tablet of the 1993 doom guy on it

[shrewd mountain]

I'm really stretching this theory

[slim crypt]

could be something for you

[oblique glen]

Im right there with you, UT99 was my first online FPS. And I played probably 6k hours between UT99 and UT04.

[shrewd mountain]

The sarcophagus isn't the doomslayer

But the tablets are 100% canon, the doomslayer did wield the soul Cube at least once in his life

[slim crypt]

but having something from 93 is something ig

[shrewd mountain]

In argent dnur the same tablet is referenced in 2016

[slim crypt]

but otherwise yes this theory has reached its limit lmao

[shrewd mountain]

Plus the doomslayer wore the classic armor during his time in hell after D64, he arrived on sentinel prime with the classic drip

So literally any time between 1993 doom and the start of the sentinels, he could've had the soul cube

[mossy flicker]

Why are people arguing doom 3s canon ness when doom guy is literally on the tablets in that one mission.
Are you guys saying you know more then the devs?

[slim crypt]

doom 3 is not 100% canon, doom tda fucks hard and doom 2016 has the best ost

[obtuse oyster]

guys

[shrewd mountain]

If the box artwork in 1993 doom is canon, the tablets in doom 3 are canon

[slim crypt]

hugo needs to finish this shit lmao

[obtuse oyster]

I haven't had a single crash xd

[shrewd mountain]

Its not 100% canon, it's like

67% canon

[slim crypt]

literally 3 hell levels and a soul cube

[slim crypt]

way too much imo

[shrewd mountain]

Also the art direction directly references doom 3 in 2016

[slim crypt]

lowkey maybe 30%

[slim crypt]

that’s just art direction tho 💀💀

[shrewd mountain]

The UAC, mixom, the plasma rifle, hell knights,

Art direction is important to doom lore

[smoky berry]

Hi
I completed the game on Pandemonium and Ultra Nightmare difficulties

What do you even get if you complete all stages 100%?
I completed them all completely and didn't get anything...

[slim crypt]

sure but that’s reaching a lil 😭

[shrewd mountain]

Art direction explain demon morphology and evolution

[shut bloom]

Yall talking about doom 3? I think they wanna make it cannon but idk. I wouldn’t mind tbh I just don’t know how they would go about it

[slim crypt]

it’s okay i want doom 3 to be canon too

[shrewd mountain]

Hugo is trying so hard to not make doom 3 canon, but shoehorning everything good about doom 3 into it

[shut bloom]

I like doom 3, especially vr. Dope af

[shrewd mountain]

Doom 3 is canon, Hugo said himself, but it's not directly tied to the slayers timeline

[slim crypt]

DAWG ITS NOT CANON ITS OKAY

[shrewd mountain]

Hes very vague

[shut bloom]

Maybe 2016 lore is the one where they actually found doom guy

[slim crypt]

if you say hell levels istg

[shrewd mountain]

HE SAID IT HIMSELF IN AN INTERVIEW BRUH ☠️

[slim crypt]

HE SAID HELL IS CANON FUCK HUGO MAN WRITE TJIS SHIT BETTER

[shrewd mountain]

That's what I mean bro

[shut bloom]

Doom 3 nope, dimension is fucked, that’s why you see earth fucked in urdak in dlc

[slim crypt]

HELL IS 3 LEVELS IN DOOM 3 LMAO

[dusty halo]

O.o

[plain iron]

I do. I love doom lore

Mm yes english

[slim crypt]

yummy demon lore

[shut bloom]

Because doom guy wasn’t there or some

[rugged charm]

Honestly I gotta say I so far I like the art direction better in TDA than Eternal. Not that Eternal's was bad but still

[shrewd mountain]

The entirety of doom 3 is canon, earth in doom 3 exists in a different universe

You gotta remember doom has a multiverse

[slim crypt]

i’m about to call mono like my dad rn lmao

[shut bloom]

It’s the destroyed earth on urdak dlc

[shrewd mountain]

Wtf is urdak dlc

[shut bloom]

That’s dooms 3 world without the slayer

[shrewd mountain]

When is that ever shown

[shut bloom]

Ancients god part 1?

[shrewd mountain]

Yea, where is destroyed earth

[shut bloom]

Blud? Are you blind?

[shrewd mountain]

In urdak, fym ☠️

[dense hawk]

my game is stuck on loading forever

[shrewd mountain]

Peak cinema, i like doom 3 so I like the movie

[slim crypt]

doom 3 is not canon it’s officially by id when they were making that shit we can go to sleep now.

[dense hawk]

anyone had this problem?

[shrewd mountain]

Annihilation has some good qualities to it as well

[shut bloom]

You fr never played ancient gods dlc?

[shrewd mountain]

Yes I beat ultra nightmare

[shut bloom]

Well, clearly not since you don’t know what I’m talking about

[shrewd mountain]

I'm confused cause I never seen a destroyed earth in the holt

[inner wigeon]

This games level of freedom reminds me of evil west. That game was so peak.

[agile ore]

Doom 3 is more of a doom game than TDA. In terms of theme/art direction that is

[shut bloom]

Yes the holt, still urdak tho

[slim crypt]

evil west fire

[shrewd mountain]

It was good, I hate when people say it's bad because the doomslayer isn't in it

[karmic creek]

can someone explain to me why people glaze mick gordon's music so much

[slim crypt]

bc he’s my dad

[oblique glen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMHmmGiq2Gg

[shrewd mountain]

TDA is the closest to classic doom in both fields

[karmic creek]

don't get me wrong, his music is good, but on doom tda soundtrack videos everyone just keeps bringing up mick's music like tda's music is bad

[shrewd mountain]

Please explain what you mean, I have no clue what you are talking about

[shut bloom]

I don’t

[shrewd mountain]

I never seen earth in the holt

[shut bloom]

Fuck standards

[karmic creek]

I don't get why they didn't bring back Andrew Hulshult though

[shrewd mountain]

Also reclaimed earth exists so idk what you are on

[agile ore]

How on Earth do you see medieval and fantasy in the original Doom? Sure hell has some sections like E4. But thats in hell

[dusty halo]

If there's one bad thing with this game is that weapon swithcing and queuing interrupts your punch/parry.

[shut bloom]

I dmed you

[karmic creek]

Mick Gordon fans are like Snyderverse fans bro. shit happened years ago just let it go

[agile ore]

Bruh I swear most of the new doom crowd didnt play the originals just said they did so they look cool

[dusty halo]

Mick Gordons music was very interesting.

[craggy jungle]

I played doom 1 haven’t played 2 or 3

[shrewd mountain]

Everything in hell is medieval

[dusty halo]

Yeah nah this doom is the furthest from classic doom.

[shrewd mountain]

Also 2016 and eternal have been building up the medieval aspect for 10 years

[onyx fjord]

They're probably familiar with ZDoom mods and the supported games that they often use resources from, Heretic and Hexen

[slim crypt]

fuckin 5:23am rn

[dusty halo]

This game is more akin to quake. And this isn't even "Quake"

[viral rover]

They gotta keep up the dark gothic theme for doom going in the future. It’s so much more badass than sci-fi

[slim crypt]

unfortunately

[agile ore]

Not even that. They most likely play it so they can say "I played it" . They dont like it but sont say bad things about it so not so disrepect the series.
Then the sheep effect comes from Doom 3. One said its not Doom everyone shits on the game. When Doom 3 is more Doom, at least in theming than TDA and Eternal

[rugged charm]

I'm just assuming hell is so immense that one part of it is as technically advanced as any civilization in the multiverse, another part of it medieval. Id imagine Hell sucks worlds of all levels of development into itseld

[slim crypt]

absolutely

[hard thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1121477880199794698/1372791802758692934/image.png?ex=68280f7f&is=6826bdff&hm=690606a29c9c1e0db2e598db1d23f27e1097be367c067e9493a02607a37dfbc9&
Another excerpt from the updated guide, now with Imp Stalker shit.

[viral rover]

Finishing move blew this games soundtrack out of the water

[slim crypt]

new mono guide dropped alert everyone

[violet lynx]

m

[karmic creek]

I disagree. I think TDA is starting to get too far away from Doom's original style

[viral rover]

I think it’s okay to change. It’s found a good theme and style

[karmic creek]

they really shouldn't have ended off the story with Eternal, it left no room for sequels

[hard thistle]

Doom 3 is more like Doom in its identity than 2016 or Eternal are. Both of those games, as much as I love them, play more like Quake than they do Doom. Ironically, TDA is the opposite - it looks a lot like Quake but it plays more like Doom than its predecessors.

[viral rover]

I was not a fan of the style of eternal. I hated its art direction with a passion

[karmic creek]

I hope we get something more sci fi next

[slim crypt]

literally plays more like original what are you talking about

[karmic creek]

I mean in terms of the time period

[shut bloom]

Wym by that? Look at playstation doom soundtrack and doom 64

[karmic creek]

more sci fi, less middle ages

[wild rose]

Everyone keeps asking for figures of demons to be made, but no one asks figures from the Atlan and Serrat 😔

[viral rover]

I like sci-fi fantasy so I’m happy with it

[karmic creek]

a console port and a console exclusive not made by id?

[wild rose]

I'd be happy if McFarlane did those

[karmic creek]

cool now tell me what doom 1 and 2 were like originally in terms of music

[violet lynx]

https://www.nexusmods.com/doomthedarkages/mods/7?tab=videos

[shut bloom]

Doom is doom

[slim crypt]

tda is literally medieval.

[onyx fjord]

At the very least, ive been noticing the consistent naming patterns coming from Hexen such as the demon or place named Corrax which the Corrax Tablets are named after, and the reaver shot's ball being called a Chaos Sphere

[violet lynx]

is this real?

[shrewd mountain]

BORING, i want Japanese samurai doom

[viral rover]

Well when I played them off the floppies they were pretty basic science fiction settings on mars, and earth respectfully but they had elements of gothic fantasy when you accessed hell.

[agile ore]

The new Doom games are awesome, in gameplay. TdA too. But I cant help but despise the direction they are going to, alongside the writing of what apoears to be a 9 year old who constantly pulls story bits out of nowhere when he gets an idea

[past swan]

lez fuckin gooooooooozers

[karmic creek]

what are you even arguing about. all I said is I would like the next game to lean more into sci fi again since I think it fits doom better

[past swan]

dooms out

[slim crypt]

how the fuck is tda less middle ages when it’s medieval??

[violet lynx]

https://www.nexusmods.com/doomthedarkages/mods/7?tab=videos

[karmic creek]

are you dyslexic?

[slim crypt]

it’s 5 am and i’m high so yes

[shrewd mountain]

We've had doom sci-fi theme for 30 years, I want them to mix it up

[karmic creek]

I MEANT I WANT THE NEXT GAME TO BE MORE SCI FI THAN MEDIVAL LIKE THE DARK AGES IS

[slim crypt]

but what is this

[shut bloom]

Idk why people arguing, there’s a doom game for all slayers, you want sci-fi, play og doom or some or doom 2016

[hard thistle]

I don't blame you for having preferences but I want to point out The Dark Ages still has a lot of sci-fi in it. The Sentinels are a science fiction thing. They just like gothic architecture and shit. They literally have high-tech weapons manufacturing facilities and dragons with cybernetic prosthetics. They have giant mechs they use to punch monsters to death.

[karmic creek]

that's for the NEXT game dude oh my god

[onyx fjord]

Bethesda marketing don't improperly frame the context of Doom's story challenge (challenge level: impossible)

[hard thistle]

The Dark Ages has plenty of sci-fi, as much as the other games. It's just with a different coat of paint.

[slim crypt]

SPECIFC IN SAME SENTENCE NOT DIFFERENT IT CONFUSES ME

[karmic creek]

go to bed

[agile ore]

You are probably not old enough to say we had.

[plucky plinth]

am I the only one who's a real sucker for sci-fi infused medieval settings?

[slim crypt]

i can’t tbh

[viral rover]

That’s what I’m sayin

[slim crypt]

i want vikings next

doom with braids

[agile ore]

Dont worry you ll get it. Just show Hugo a good viking movie

[shrewd mountain]

Oh no i wasn't even in my dad's balls when doom came out, I have no say in the matter

[karmic creek]

I want something that's more like what we thought was sci fi in the 90s and early 2000s. also, I think at this point we should just accept that modern doom took quake's wallet and merge the two

[viral rover]

Quake needs a reboot

TDA feels like it was suppozed to be quake at one point

[karmic creek]

modern doom is honestly a quake reboot too at this point lol

[onyx fjord]

Wdym we literally just got it

[agile ore]

I think its more Hexen than Quake

[karmic creek]

I feel like a Quake reboot would be too similar to modern Doom

[slim crypt]

i want duke nukem forever 2 next tbh

[viral rover]

They literally jacked the weapons from quake

[onyx fjord]

The tall portals also look like q1 slipgates

[sonic turret]

So my theory is that the Skull Crusher was also crafted by the Wretch. 🤔

[karmic creek]

I would just bring Quake into the Doom universe

[viral rover]

The final boss of remakes… diakatana

[shrewd mountain]

I don't get the whole "TDA was gonna be a quake game" not like they were hyping up the sentinels for 10 fucking years

[slim crypt]

such a cool name wasted on a game

[karmic creek]

gives Doom Guy other stuff to do then kill demons and save Earth. all that cosmic horror and lovecraftian shit fits doom pretty well too

[shrewd mountain]

Quake champions did that

[worthy rose]

Anyone feel like the doom guy is 2 feet tall in this game? Like look down at the ground or at reference points. Doorways. He’s tiny.

[viral rover]

Not what I’m saying, just the weapons are almost 1:1 from quake

[agile ore]

That would be Quake 3 first

[viral rover]

Wonder if they intend to reboot quake with the sentinels and have it as a spinoff…

[shrewd mountain]

The only thing similar is the nail gun, but it works way differently

[karmic creek]

would anyone play a doom multiplayer shooter with the sentinels ala helldivers 2

[slim crypt]

i have quake 3 on ps2 if that means anything

[shrewd mountain]

The old one and the new one both have doomslayer in it

Or doom guy, same person

[sonic turret]

What's wrong with Champions?

[viral rover]

The new doom storyline is actually crack fueled though. I have no idea what the fuck is going on but it looks cool

[shrewd mountain]

But with that logic, Tony hawk pro skater 3 and fortnite connect to doom

[hard thistle]

Yeah this is a dumb opinion IMO. I don't think this was ever meant to be a Quake game. The visual shit only seems like Quake from a very superficial standpoint.

• The Cosmic Realm is nothing like the environments shown in Quake. "It's Lovecraftian" doesn't make it Quake.
• The weapons seem similar to Quake because Quake had a bunch of the same weapons as Doom lmao. Quake doesn't have a monopoly on grenade launchers or guns that shoot spikes.
• The Sentinels are a completely separate concept from Quake and have existed in the Doom canon for over two decades.

[agile ore]

Pretty sure not even the devs know

[slim crypt]

yeah it’s quake 3 revolution it’s arena and team arena together

[viral rover]

If I remember correctly the sentinels first got a shoutout in doom 64 no?

[shrewd mountain]

Nah not rly

[hard thistle]

The Sentinels were introduced in Doom 3, albeit under a different name, being Martians.

[shrewd mountain]

2016 was the first to introduce the sentinels

[karmic creek]

I think we're forgetting that Quake was pretty much a Doom game at it's heart, they just didn't call it doom so they wouldn't be held back by the waning popularity of doom at the time

[viral rover]

What am I thinking with 64? I vaguely remember some game before 3 having the “sentinels” in it

[shrewd mountain]

Then by that logic, doom is a wolfenstein game at its core

[karmic creek]

like quake was doom in all but the name and swapping a few basic subject matters (swap demons for monsters, hell for lovecraftian dimension)

[karmic creek]

wolfenstein is much more rooted in reality

[shrewd mountain]

Yea, cyborg hitler is rooted in reality

[karmic creek]

we had hitler

[shrewd mountain]

In a mech suit

[slim crypt]

cyborg fucking hitler

[karmic creek]

we have prosthetics

[shrewd mountain]

Dude had cartoony chainguns as arms

[karmic creek]

okay which is more realistic. a real man with a mech suit or fucking demons from hell

[slim crypt]

i’m gonna kms

[sonic turret]

I mean I see Quake as a spiritual successor to that era's Doom for sure.

[shrewd mountain]

Don't even get me started on return to wolfenstein

[karmic creek]

this is what im tryna say

[sonic turret]

People have disagreed with me on that though.

[shrewd mountain]

Hell ngl

[hard thistle]

64 had an aesthetic that was a lot more similar to Sentinel shit, but they weren't conceptualized at the time as far as we know.

[karmic creek]

quake was doom in spirit

[shrewd mountain]

Aw man, doom isnt real :(

[viral rover]

I see, must have just been nostalgic memories clicking when I played eternal.

[dusty halo]

Doom 64 was a really interesting game workihg within the hardware limits of the nintendo 64.

[slim crypt]

is there a way i can bring rage in this convo

[karmic creek]

this is really funny when you consider how bad doom being real would actually be

[dusty halo]

It doesn't feel compromised as a result of (in my opinion) masterful engineering.

[shrewd mountain]

Worse fictional universe to live in by far

[minor flower]

are the cutscenes in this game pre-rendered???

[viral rover]

Is doom 3 canon to current timeline?

[shrewd mountain]

Here we go again, yes and no

[slim crypt]

no. except hell levels

[cosmic night]

Does anyone know if The dark ages takes place before eternal?

[viral rover]

I literally don’t know, I played doom 3 back when it came out and never again

[slim crypt]

yes

[dusty halo]

It's pretty up there with warhammer and battletech in my opinion.

[shrewd mountain]

The base doom 3 game is canon to doom, not in the same traditional "canon" as if it were part of the timeline

[minor flower]

no way

it looks like a movie

[slim crypt]

doom 3 is a separate universe was designed to be a reboot with 0 connectivity

[hard thistle]

Doom 3 is canon to the wider Doom multiverse and has connections to the other games, but it doesn't take place in the timeline of the modern games. Please consult the Lore FAQ pinned in #general - I wrote it to help with questions like these!

[shrewd mountain]

Its canon in art style, hell, story beats and references

[slim crypt]

i’m not doing this shit again lmao

[shrewd mountain]

Not directly part of dooms story

[viral rover]

Coolio. Game was fun back then. Idk why people hated it

[sonic turret]

I've literally said before that Quake is Doom. People either understand what I mean by that or they try and be a wise guy and only try to see the differences. Either way, you had a military guy shooting monsters in a dichotomy of both medieval gothic environs and futuristic industrial environs, exactly the same as Doom did. Doom had more in common with Quake that Quake 2 (Wor) did.

[shrewd mountain]

This is factual

[slim crypt]

objectively. OBJECTIVELY not in mainline games that’s it

[plain iron]

Chat it's basically a side story

[hard thistle]

It was acclaimed back when it released, but newer fans look back on it poorly thanks to a warped perception of what Doom should be.

[shrewd mountain]

Its not objectively if it's canon

[plain iron]

People hate it now bcs it's not eternal. It was incredibly well received when it released.

[slim crypt]

it’s not canon of modern games.

[shrewd mountain]

You are right but so wrong

[dusty halo]

To be honest doom 3 has ALWAYS been the black sheep of the doom franchise. Its very alien like monsters and all.

[plain iron]

If anything the modern games reaffirm 3's canon status

[karmic creek]

Doom 2016 was a better interpretation of Doom being scary and also badass

[shrewd mountain]

Doom 3 and 64 aren't loved enough

[slim crypt]

i’m gonna go come ur house markplier

[viral rover]

I remember it being received well in the magazines I used to get

[hard thistle]

I mean, Doom 3 is a mainline game. It's a numbered entry. That's, like, just factual. What's up for debate is if it's relevant. Doom 3 has a place in the modern Doom canon, it's just not relevant to the timeline of the modern Earthly Realm.
It is essentially, as Thomas said, a side story in another universe.

[shrewd mountain]

No, doom 3 is miles better

[viral rover]

People were really hyped about its visuals. They compared it a lot to HL2.

[shrewd mountain]

Doom 2016 isn't scary

[karmic creek]

I've never disagreed harder in my life

[dusty halo]

Yeah it was a glorified tech test for John Carmack.

[plain iron]

Oh look I'm important now m0no uses my words

[shrewd mountain]

Doom 3 is like dead space fucked half life and then was raised by doom

[slim crypt]

yeah just a thing on its own relatively that’s what i agree with

[karmic creek]

maybe "intense" is the better word. but I don't think Doom was ever scary since you're always playing as the one dude who fucks the demons up every time

[dusty halo]

He's a brilliant guy and all but he cared more for innovation than the gameplay.

[minor flower]

i've been saying this

[viral rover]

I always wonder what doom 4 would have been like before it got rebooted into 2016

[shut bloom]

Lies, doom rpg is the best doom

[rugged charm]

I remember this too, it was super hyped and first page of every GPU benchmark

[minor flower]

would've been butt 🥀

[shrewd mountain]

Half life is a glorified tech demo, but people say it's the best game ever made

[karmic creek]

doom 3 doomguy has the benefit of not being doom slayer you're playing as

[hard thistle]

Yeah, it's essentially just a side thing.
A better way to word it: Doom 3 is canon, but it's not relevant to the "Slayer saga," as Hugo called it.

[shut bloom]

PlayStation doom was scary as well as doom 64

[slim crypt]

oh we need to stop right the fuck now.

[karmic creek]

COD slop most likely

[onyx fjord]

Doom 1 and some parts of Doom 2 are the closest to being spooky, which is likely what the people who made the game were wanting to expand on when they chose to make Doom 3

[viral rover]

I always thought doom 3 was badass asf

[shrewd mountain]

Half like is peak gaming

But it is a tech demo

[onyx fjord]

64 is maximum spoopy, before the 3d era

[dusty halo]

Yeah alright but thing is that Carmack wanted to design doom 4 as the same thing but also ruin the image of the franchise.

[shrewd mountain]

Every half life is a tech demo that pushes innovation

[slim crypt]

you say that like it’s a bad thing

[dusty halo]

Doom 3 almost gave me a panic attack when I was 8.

[karmic creek]

I wish there was a mod for 64 that adds more rock style music over the current soundtrack so it would fit better with doom 1 and 2

[hard thistle]

Doom 3 is a fantastic game and if you're a Doom 3 hater I want you to know that's a red flag and girls will look at you and get the creeps because of it. That's just factual.

[shrewd mountain]

Someone said doom 3 was a glorified tech demo

[onyx fjord]

I think og id was quite troubled tbh

[shut bloom]

I never played half life and I never will :)

[shrewd mountain]

I'm just making comparisons

[slim crypt]

he said it not me if you don’t like doom 3 you need psychiatric help

[karmic creek]

every id game past quake was pretty much, until 2016

[viral rover]

I like how TDA has musical themes that harken back to the classics.

[sonic turret]

Why is that a benefit? I'd much rather be a Slayer during a hell invasion. 😬

[dusty halo]

Yeah. They were.

[slim crypt]

shit was pushing graphics tbh

[shrewd mountain]

Doom 3 and half life are tech demo, but still amazing games

[valid slate]

guys what ia the best long range weapon? i don't know what to upgrade

[rugged charm]

Yeah, it was one of the few games I didn't play once I was allowed to play other M rated games just because I didn't want nightmares.

[shrewd mountain]

You can have both

[frank rapids]

holy SHIT, level 5 was so good

[dusty halo]

There were a lot of issues going on. John Romero connected more to the community than he did work on the game, I think that's fine and all but it pissed everyone off.

[shrewd mountain]

Also was the atlan factory scrapped? Where tf was it

[onyx fjord]

Map32 of Doom 2 just kinda rubs me the wrong way now how they were just violently desecrating Hall's character after firing him

[karmic creek]

that's what I mean. you are just a dude, you aren't him. adds to the scariness

[viral rover]

If you take apart the OST for TDA and compare how it’s arranged to classic doom it’s structured pretty similar.

[frank rapids]

im not the biggest fan of the dragon sections, but i dont mind them

[dusty halo]

When quake came about a lot of people left.

[frank rapids]

the music for level 5 is SO GOOD, especially with the orchestration

[dusty halo]

Grosse was just a wolf 3d easter egg. That's all.

[shrewd mountain]

Except quake revolutionized pc gaming forever

[hard thistle]

If you mean the Aratum level it fucking rocks.

[onyx fjord]

You don't remember the hanged Commander Keens that you have to kill to exit?

[frank rapids]

theres one stem that plays during heavy combat that has this soaring orchestral creschendo

[dusty halo]

I do remember?

[frank rapids]

idk, its the first one with the dragon

[dusty halo]

My dude, I grew up with doom LMAO

[viral rover]

The soundtrack name is “sentinel barracks” I believe

[frank rapids]

yeah, it is aratum

[sonic turret]

I dunno, I mean I get what you mean by "tech demo", but it was more than that for me, because it was the point at which I really felt like they were beginning to embellish the lore surrounding the Doom franchise, and I particularly enjoyed the PDAs.

[onyx fjord]

I just think it stinks of "we hate you and your influence" of the guys towards Tom

[frank rapids]

omg thank you

[shrewd mountain]

DOOM 3 IS CANON IDC WHAT ANYONE SAYS

[agile ore]

Thats false

[slim crypt]

WHY ARE YOY DOING THIS SHIT AGAIN

[shrewd mountain]

EVERY DOOM GAME FUCKS, ENDS THERE

[viral rover]

It’s either sentinel barracks or blood red, but both play in that environment ones just the ambient track

[slim crypt]

Tda fucks

[onyx fjord]

I'm very glad that Doom Eternal has been much nicer to Commander Keen

[karmic creek]

doom on the 3do?

[shrewd mountain]

Except doom VFR

[still pelican]

u guys think id soft. gonna optimize doom further?

[unborn field]

Hiii guys so how Is the new game Is It good? Or Bad?

( No spoilers ) Just wanna know

[shrewd mountain]

That game can go fuck it's own farthole, fuck doom vfr

[viral rover]

Infernal chasm goes insane tho

[shrewd mountain]

Made me motion sick, doom 3 vr is way better

[frank rapids]

incredible so far

[shrewd mountain]

Horrible controls too

[slim crypt]

colouss unleashed goes hard

[viral rover]

Feel free to crucify me but my boys in finishing move blew the soundtrack out of the water

[shrewd mountain]

Isn't there a track that slightly references D64/PS theme?

[plain iron]

I love VFR

[frank rapids]

i was ambivalent at first, but after aratum, hard agree

[dusty halo]

Reckon so? Well right I don't think he meant to INTENTIONALLY ruin it but I mean he had more priority in makign the game pretty and using techniques, From what I've seen from the cut footage it was generic shooter with cool engine.

[shrewd mountain]

I hated it because it made me sick, and the controls suck

[agile ore]

1. He was not in full charge of the direction of any game since Quake 3. He had his say though.
2. He was working on Rage while anorher team under Kevin Cloud were building Doom 4 (Call of Doom)
3. First reboot came when he was frustrated and said "doom is about demons and shotguns".
4. Second reboot started by reusin lots of assets from the previous two. And he was still at id for at least firdt 8-ish months of development.

[still pelican]

skill issue

[shrewd mountain]

Skill issue on my brain?

[slim crypt]

yes

[shrewd mountain]

I liked doom 3 vr, perfect doom in vr

[slim crypt]

mf said skill issue on motion sickness lmao

[viral rover]

I gotta say the mech combat is a lot cooler than I was expecting

[shrewd mountain]

No other vr game made me motion sick in my life

[viral rover]

Smashing titans through the environment is cool as hell

[shrewd mountain]

Also I hated the camera controls in vfr

[unborn field]

So i think Samuel hayden died in Eternal?

[shrewd mountain]

No he's alive, Hugo stated such

[sonic turret]

He didn't die.

[unborn field]

Oh

[plain iron]

Wife is very much alive

[shrewd mountain]

I doubt we will see the conclusion to that for another 5 yesrs

[viral rover]

Some of the concept art for the slayer’s fit in TDA is actually insane

[sonic turret]

He began the process of transfiguration.

[agile ore]

Plus, to be honest it didnt look bad. I would have wished that art direction to come back with the gameplay of the new games

[slim crypt]

now we have to wait again

[reef ocean]

Could happen. The other two doom games seemed to get better performance updates down the road.

[shrewd mountain]

It be weird for the slayers story to end in TAG 2, then immediately pick up

[dusty halo]

Fair enough. Yeah I remember a lot of assets were reused (which were good)

[sonic turret]

@unborn field according to Hugo, the Maykrs transfigure eventually into giant Cthulhu monsters.

[glossy narwhal]

i suppose but it has been like 5 years

[viral rover]

They have like an eon of prequel material they can palate cleanse with

[onyx fjord]

Carmack did pretty much run out of steam for making games in the 2000s and there's a lot to be said for how much good artists contribute to Doom

[shrewd mountain]

Like, haha the doomslayer is resealed in hell, and hell is sealed forever, let's reopen hell and open the slayer immediately after TAG 2

[unborn field]

WHAAAT??? really?? Thats insane!!!!

[plain iron]

Oh boy looks like it's time for me to explain transfiguration.

[rugged charm]

Yeah I figured I'd hate it because the previous games already established that DG doesn't need a mech to battle titans but dodging mace blows in a godzilla sized mech still felt waaay more awesome than I expected

[still pelican]

good to know i hope they come in soon

[shrewd mountain]

Like the next doom game after TAG 2 must have a huge time jump otherwise it will undermine the slayers journey

[karmic creek]

every time I'm reminded that Doomguy is actually a huge nerd and has a mancave full of nerd stuff in Eternal, I smile

[viral rover]

Slayer was pure aura farming in that mech tho.

[shrewd mountain]

I would love another universe hop after TAG 2

[slim crypt]

holy shit bungie are actual cunts

[sonic turret]

@unborn field you can argue that the process does result in death in a manner of speaking, prior to rebirth.

[unborn field]

I'll be playing surely doom on high speed fuck the slow type aint that type of gamer...

[plain iron]

What we see and what Hugo says, is a unnatural state for maykrs. Transfiguration is perfectly normal, but not for long periods of time. They are not supposed to be fleshy at this time. Maykrs are inherently robotic and mechanical.

[plain iron]

Nup, that process has been ruined by the the removal of the Father.

[shrewd mountain]

My personal theory is the next doom game will be in a samurai Japanese oni style mythology twist, given the references Hugo made and some merch and concept art they've made

[reef ocean]

Jabba the maykr is something else....

[frank rapids]

seems like sentinel barracks is the ambient one, holy city is the light combat one, and blood red is the heavy combat one

[shrewd mountain]

It would go so damn hard

[unborn field]

Is there MARAUDER?? god please tell me he isnt

[shrewd mountain]

Yes.. but they aren't demonic yet

[viral rover]

I mean we got marauder at home in a sorta

[plain iron]

Nup. Marauders don't exist atp

[unborn field]

Ohh thank god oof

[shrewd mountain]

And they aren't enemies

[unborn field]

I hate him in eternal... He was so annoying with that dog....

UGHHH

[shrewd mountain]

You see them as sentinels in green armor

[sonic turret]

I don't think the marauders have begun marauding yet in the current era.

[shrewd mountain]

The civil war hasn't even started yet

[rugged charm]

Pretty sure it was on his bucket list. Er life list since he kinda can't die now

[reef ocean]

I dont think there was 1 annoying enemy. Which is great.

[shrewd mountain]

The acolyte

[unborn field]

I still need to buy a new Headphones for my PS5 i still looking with quality...

[tight nymph]

yall dark ages slaps. id cooked again

[viral rover]

I present to you the leader agaddon hunter

[shrewd mountain]

The cacodemon...

[unborn field]

I hope so ...

[reef ocean]

I enjoyed him tbh

[sonic turret]

Oh that Kreed guy was annoying enough.

[reef ocean]

Caco was sorta annoying but not bad.

[viral rover]

I don’t like enemies that hide behind shields like bitches

[sonic turret]

Like the Slayer doesn't have a shield. 🤷

[shrewd mountain]

Im not gonna lie, kreed looked like bigweld from the robots 2005 movie

[viral rover]

Unfortunately

[shrewd mountain]

The way his arms moved and his ball shaped body

[reef ocean]

Well, i think it acts like the dark lord. You bait him upclose.

[karmic creek]

I wonder how the Slayer lost the shield

[shrewd mountain]

That's all I could think when I saw him

[tight nymph]

hide vs charging at u right?

[viral rover]

He thought it was lame the second he got a chainsaw

[karmic creek]

also how come he started holding his guns with two hands when he could use them one handed

[shrewd mountain]

The slayer also has a meathook for no reason

[sonic turret]

I think they should've just had Samur Maykr perform the role that the Kreed Maykr undertook tbh.

[unborn field]

Bro what are you Talking about youre there like a fucking captain America from MCU 🤣🤣 but more badass!!

[hoary heron]

I love the chainsaw shield, now I wish I could have it in Eternal

[shrewd mountain]

Wouldnt make sense

[frank rapids]

when the part at 3:35 of this song starts playing during a big fight, it is the most hype feeling ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECSL4ei7qrI

[shrewd mountain]

Samur self exiled after the divinity machine, kreed MADE the divinity machine so he understands how the slayers power works

[tight nymph]

also the music is nice. I know mick is great but these folks did well too

[unborn field]

Mick Is a God ❤️

[shrewd mountain]

People forget kreed was referenced in eternal

He was the one who designed the divinity machine

[hoary heron]

I need a kreed maykr plushie

[sonic turret]

I barely even remember the music. 🤷

[shrewd mountain]

To scale.. 🙏

[plain iron]

Weighted as well

[hoary heron]

or a kreed maykr pillow

[sonic turret]

I hate how he turned into a lump of whatever.

[reef ocean]

I need a kreed dog toy. So i can give it to a dog to chew.

[unborn field]

Its like my neck here we go again! And All the headbanging and slaying demons 🤣🤣🤣

[shrewd mountain]

He was reduced to his head and soul sphere

[hoary heron]

Id is on to something here, Kreed Maykr should be their new mascot

[shrewd mountain]

||Idk if those worms were his babies or what||

[obtuse oyster]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1243210988581290087/1372800716258807848/image.png

[viral rover]

Idk why people act like mick left impossible to fill shoes, his style is pretty basic past the gimmicks

[obtuse oyster]

is there really a landing down there or is that unintended?

[shrewd mountain]

Its a mix of heavy metal with nu metal and dubstep

[viral rover]

Djent

[shrewd mountain]

Djent is more eternals vibe

[sonic turret]

You're supposed to black that out so it doesn't spoil it for anyone.

[viral rover]

His work on 2016 was more industrial

[sonic turret]

What's Djent?

[shrewd mountain]

The entire convo was spoilers

[viral rover]

Genre of metal

[shrewd mountain]

You didn't warn the other dude

[sonic turret]

Oh, I probably should've known that then, since I'm British.

[obtuse oyster]

guys pls I hate replaying missions 😭

[shrewd mountain]

I like djent but I hate how people gatekeep metal so fucking much

[reef ocean]

Super shotgun is so satisfying in this game too.

[viral rover]

It’s weird

[shrewd mountain]

I can't like doom ost, I'm a poser

[reef ocean]

Especially as a finisher when you saw stun a enemy.

[shrewd mountain]

I can't like djent, it's not "real metal"

[hoary heron]

I love the style of Doom music, I also love different people having their own take on it. I'd love to see what other artists can do with it.

[frank rapids]

ignore the gatekeepers, you can like whatever metal you want, metal is metal

[shrewd mountain]

I can't like Metallica, it's too mainstream

[viral rover]

My only issue with micks music is it was too chaotic. It sometimes was hard to make out a rhythmic flow. Felt like having a hornet nest shoved in my ears

[shrewd mountain]

I can't like fucking anything bro, fuck gatekeepers

[tight nymph]

the only negative I've seen is the whole re;ease graphics problem

[reef ocean]

Pantera is #1

[wild rose]

Can we cheat an UN run and still get the gold skin?

[shrewd mountain]

It made 2016 have a unique style which was lost in eternal

[sonic turret]

Yeah it was mostly just noise. The loud tracks at least

[shrewd mountain]

It felt like hell had a true influence on the ost

[viral rover]

Eternal ost was lame imo

[obtuse oyster]

oooh yes there is

[wild rose]

?

[reef ocean]

Yes. I think someone just did.

[hoary heron]

Wait really?

[shrewd mountain]

Just make the sliders super forgiving

[wild rose]

Even the player and enemy damage?

[sonic turret]

Yeah, I've always been a Bobby Prince guy myself.

[shrewd mountain]

Is there any reward for pandemonium?

[reef ocean]

Apparently so.

[hoary heron]

How?

[viral rover]

People trashed on Andrew for TAG but his and David’s work kicked ass more than the base OST

[reef ocean]

You just select un and move the sliders.

[hoary heron]

Yikes

[wild rose]

Why does it keep called Ultra nightmare lmao

[shrewd mountain]

I don't like Andrew all too much, I love his work in TAG 1 and 2

I do not like IDKFA, idk it doesn't feel like doom to me

[reef ocean]

Just because its perma death.

[shrewd mountain]

I always prefer the classic tracks

Or the midi ones

[wild rose]

Well good to know I'll get the skin

[hoary heron]

They should do an Ultra Unfair mode, just jack up all the sliders to the enemies favor, while reducing player damage.

[viral rover]

Only good eternal track I can recall was super gore nest

[reef ocean]

Honestly, you should uninstall if you make the game super easy and die once...lol

[wild rose]

Gotta go fast before they patch it

[shrewd mountain]

I liked the only thing they fear is you (mixing was horrible)

[ornate lintel]

Out of genuine curiosity, how many of yall play on pc and have acquired the Nvidia GeForce skin? Because mine isn’t showing up in my rewards tab

[shrewd mountain]

I like super gore nest

I like cultist base and doom hunter base

[wheat sigil]

i tried doing all the sliders on the hardest possible settings, and it's doable but really hard lol, you gotta be on point with your gameplay

[hoary heron]

I could never do an ultra nightmare run, I die way too much, and I wouldn't want to cheat just to get the skin on this game wouldn't feel right

[shrewd mountain]

The first arena with the faster cultist base riff 🔥🔥🔥🔥 the ambience theme is amazing and the doom 3 snippet makes me cream

[terse yarrow]

my global illumination is lke hyper dogshit and every area is jus shrouded in darkness does anyone have a fix?

[lavish hazel]

Gladiator is also fucking banging

[reef ocean]

Someone posted the UN results in the eternal modding hub chat. Thats my source.

[hoary heron]

I'm trying it right now, the only thing I didn't do is reduce player damage.

[shrewd mountain]

Hell on earth🔥🔥🔥

Nekroval

[hoary heron]

Let me tell you I have a burning hatred for grunts and their energy lassos now

[wheat sigil]

my normal settings are everything at the hardest, except 75% player damage instead of 50%, and second highest projectile speed

[lavish hazel]

My hatred goes to Mancubi and Arachnos

[viral rover]

Imagine dying in UN and finding out it wasn’t a superheavy demon but the grunt fodder who spawned in behind you and tickled you from behind

[hoary heron]

so 500% damage?

[wheat sigil]

yes

[lavish hazel]

I always find myself getting shat on because of getting close and personal, and the arachno just eats my health up

[violet lynx]

bro has a 5090

[wild rose]

I love how we can have a run without tutorials in this game. I hated that on Eternal

[hoary heron]

Don't you just love it? I do, I love getting insta killed by grunts. I have to really be mindful of how I proceed.

[reef ocean]

I just sheild saw and super shotgun them right away.

[lavish hazel]

It's been 7 years from 20 Series

[viral rover]

Never underestimate the fodder

They will wreck your shit on nightmare if left unattended

[violet lynx]

and its still a trash technology, turning should of just had dlss since that has actually improved so much

[hoary heron]

I wonder if some insane person will do an ultra nightmare run with all the sliders jacked up now

[wild rose]

Wait we still have a limit of 3 extra lives even on Pandemonic!? 💀

[viral rover]

Max difficulty UN no hit run

[lavish hazel]

It's normally because if I focus on the big threats first, I get slapped on the back from chaff

[wild rose]

I'll miss having 30 extra lives like on Eternal

[wheat sigil]

yeah you have to be mindful of your positioning and how you choose to utilize your shield. shield dashing is a really nice movement tool, it allows you to quickly reposition and deal with different things
chaingunners are a painnn though

[hoary heron]

Could you fricken imagine that?

[plain iron]

Yeah. I heard they stole a shitton of art, Right?

[viral rover]

Would take 50 years off my life

[lavish hazel]

But I'm just getting back to FPS games so I might just be rusty and shit rn

[wanton mauve]

i need help mane

[reef ocean]

Former bungie staff member art lol

[hoary heron]

Yeah those pesky enemies with automatic fire weapons, uhhhhg

[viral rover]

I raged out on m15 when I got corner fucked by an arachnatron, cyber demon, agaddon hunter and a caco at the same time

[scarlet prairie]

how do i contact ID privately or can i just post here for a hopeful QOL patch, not sure if asking such thing falls under the demand rule in the readme lol

[plain iron]

Fucking hell.

[wheat sigil]

also my favorite thing may be somewhat learning enemy AI, allowing me to shield dashing into an enemy, melee, and then parry their melee attack

[lavish hazel]

Actually cyberdemon gives me the most grief but maybe because of me tuning up the speed

[wheat sigil]

it's just so sexy xd

[reef ocean]

Komodo dude is a cool enemy.

[unborn field]

Well its my first day i am gonna play after work doom the Dark ages i am excited i didnt watch no GamePlay no YouTube just to enjoy It ❤️

So hopefully the game wont dissapoint me...

[hoary heron]

I have found that enemy AI does have a leash length, if you go back too far they'll run back. I've picked off quite a few enemies that way.

[viral rover]

Fug the big dude that spits poison AOE btw, he can kill you with that shit in literally 1.6 seconds, I timed it out of curiosity

[reef ocean]

Yeah that acid is no joke

[hoary heron]

Papa Nurgle blesses even the Slayer.

[wheat sigil]

makes sense, can't say i've tried that, nothing something i will do either
also btw, make your parry colour pink for ultimate gaming...

[viral rover]

It’s funny when the acid comes out the millisecond you shield dash and he just happens to put it right at his feet where you’ll be locked in an animation for the exact timeframe it takes to wipe your HP

[reef ocean]

Reaver chainshot is such a fun weapon.

[viral rover]

You can block the mancu’s flamethrowers with the shield yeah?

[neon perch]

Why is Siege 1 at 99% completion?

[viral rover]

I’ve beaten the game on NM. I just always keep my distance from mancus

I blast em with the spike launcher from a distance

[wheat sigil]

pretty sure

[unborn field]

Guys since Its my first tíme playing doom the Dark ages any tips or tricks? I should know?

[wheat sigil]

shield dash in, melee, parry their ground slam, melee, back away for optimal manc slaying xd

[viral rover]

I only wonder because when I do my inevitable UN run, I need to know exactly what I can block and what I cannot block

Acid put the fear of god in me for UN

[hard thistle]

Man, I have a feeling that Doom TDA is made perfectly for my taste, even though Eternal is objectively better

[sleek quail]

The void skin is lost forever? Didn't bought the game

[unborn field]

Yeah but the DLC bosses Kinda suck for me....

[wheat sigil]

idk if eternal is better

[viral rover]

Eternal is my 3rd fav

[hard thistle]

Ignore tag

[viral rover]

UN eternal hurt me in ways I can’t describe

[fluid nacelle]

Nah eternal isnt objectively better lol
They're very different experiences

[wheat sigil]

tag1's great, tag2 is not however, lmao

[hard thistle]

Eh, yeah

[shrewd mountain]

Make one

[scarlet prairie]

can someone let me know if the checkpoints improve later on like just before a challenging encounter i recently got hooked on eternal and enjoy the 50-100 reload attempt dopamine rush for completing a challenging encounter

[viral rover]

Some of them are absolutely evil

[sonic turret]

For ages I was playing TDA before I realised that the voice that you hear actually isn't and couldn't be Vega. I was thanking him and everything and then was like dude, you don't even exist yet.

[viral rover]

Vega from wish.com

[scarlet prairie]

omg ikr :(, i cant commit myself to play it at the moment, even though i really enjoy the game even with no dash or double jump

[sonic turret]

Yeah. The artificial artificial intelligence.

[ruby sail]

I'm not sure if this is where I should post this but, I'm having difficulties getting my game to play. I'm on Xbox Series X on Gamepass. I downloaded the game and it loads to the screen stating " press A to start".
I press A and nothing happens. I deleted the game and re downloaded and got the same thing. Anyone having this issue?

[shrewd mountain]

Idk why they gave the slayers suit a voice

[viral rover]

M15 has a checkpoint drought where you have to go through a gauntlet and if you die it throws you all the way back at the start

It’s actually heinous

[scarlet prairie]

oh shnap lol

[shrewd mountain]

I don't like the idea of the slayers suit having a voice, it just acts as "go here"

Plus it's never referenced in the other games

[sonic turret]

For company and moral support in such dark and treacherous times. 🤷

[shrewd mountain]

Did the doomslayer find his suit annoying?

[scarlet prairie]

i might just stick to eternal i guess i enjoyed it on ultra violence and wanted to play dark ages on nightmare

[viral rover]

Bro had to have someone to talk to when he was stuck in hell for an eon

[wheat sigil]

oh mann, that'll be horrendous, i die a ton lol

[scarlet prairie]

guess ill give it a nightmare whirl 😛

[viral rover]

I’m sure the demons didn’t make good conversationalists

[sonic turret]

I mean I'm pretty sure that Hugo just forgot that Vega wasn't a thing yet lol.

[viral rover]

Something something sentinel tech

[shrewd mountain]

He had the praetor suit in that time

No suit voice in that bitch

[viral rover]

I’d have hated my life

[shrewd mountain]

2016 praetor suit

[thorny yarrow]

Any general tips on fighting Vagarys? They still give me a lot of trouble.

[rustic socket]

I think I have a lead on the white eyes. I think it has to do with Ray tracing, I think it's broken in some PCs. I'm in ||the first hell level|| and whenever there's lightning in the sky it looks like my GPU is about to die, but only while I'm looking at it.

[shrewd mountain]

Herobrine

[viral rover]

Also 2016 doom slayer needed to eat a damn sammich. He was a stick man in that shit

[rugged widget]

Hey sorry new to the doom game...is this just a single player game?

[sonic turret]

No he didn't have it between 64 and when he ended up on Argent Prime or whatever.

[shrewd mountain]

No he wasn't?

Just cause he wasn't exposed doesn't mean he ain't buff

[viral rover]

Compared to the later suits he was skinny as a rail, particularly in the codex.

[sonic turret]

Yes, the Dark Ages is single.

[shrewd mountain]

If you compare models they are very similar in size

[thorny yarrow]

This one is yes. All effort was poured into the Single player. And it shows.

[viral rover]

His arms are notably smaller, it’s a more realistic model but I’m mostly joking

[barren warren]

i’ve noticed they’re super easy to takedown with an upgraded impaler, all you have to do is shatter their body armor and then go for headshots while parrying projectiles as much as possible to buff the impaler

[shrewd mountain]

Hes not skinny, it's just the illusion

[viral rover]

Eternal went for a more gears of war type body build for slayer, dude was jacked beyond jacked. Not very realistic

[sonic turret]

The were definitely smaller in 2016, I'm guessing that being in the sarcophagus for so long resulted in atrophy.

[shrewd mountain]

His arm length is the same size as in 2016 and eternal

[viral rover]

Length sure, width no

[shrewd mountain]

Im looking at the direct comparison, it's the same

[wheat sigil]

that's the gains you get if you're vegan and natty

[thorny yarrow]

Gotcha. What gets me especailly with them though is the poison. I was hoping circle strafing them would be good, but the poison prevents that. I have a hard time dodging and blocking their attacks I think.

[wild rose]

Just tried a parademon mode on nightmare difficulty. This game has an absurd replayability

[wild rose]

It's so much better than Eternal. The first level almost killed me of tedious

[viral rover]

So am I, the suit is clearly more realistically designed in ‘16 with human proportions

[sonic turret]

I'm vegan.

[barren warren]

for the lingering poision, the most you can is shield-dash towards a fodder or try and anticipate them before they land

[shrewd mountain]

Well the doom marine wasn't always planned to be doom guy

[wheat sigil]

doomguy physique?

[sonic turret]

It's so hard switching between the words vegan and Vega because it always wanta to autocorrect.

[viral rover]

All im sayin is eternal slayer is 100% juicing on argent

[wild rose]

But on this? You're still on crack with dash and the shield bash is just a fuck the fodder button

[shrewd mountain]

He was gonna be a super soldier like halo

[sonic turret]

Kreed Maykr

[viral rover]

I prefer the 16 suit personally

It just looks cooler to me. More believable

[sonic turret]

I think it was too much like Halo personally, like there was a time when I'd not be able to tell them apart unless they were side by side, if you can believe that, as I was always more accustomed to the classic look than the Praetor suit.

[viral rover]

The doom 3 suit tho.. yikers

[urban compass]

I finally beat the dark ages, I cano stop caring about spoilers now, yippee

[sonic turret]

Honestly tho, I use the Barbarian skin in Eternal, so I guess that that's my favourite.

[shrewd mountain]

Halo and doomslayer are barely similar besides color

[wild rose]

Why do imps keep aura farming? The big ones

[shrewd mountain]

Master chief has a distinct helmet

[urban compass]

They’ve been auring farming since 1993

[shrewd mountain]

Also some people genuinely believed doomslayer and master chief are the same person

[wild rose]

They don't even try to dodge our shots

[sonic turret]

Yeah, more square with a peak.

[wild rose]

Can't they realize they're bad at it?

[shrewd mountain]

When the death battle happened, I saw hundreds of comments being like "they are different people?"

[viral rover]

The imp stalkers being the same design as the 93 imps is glorious. Only difference is they are juicing like a mf

[urban compass]

Master cheif kinda looks like a plastic toy

[urban compass]

Also the molten tipped claws which are a nice touch

[wild rose]

He just looks like a motocross suit on steroids

[urban compass]

Basically yeah

[sonic turret]

I've honestly never played Halo tho, I played the demo of the first game while I was in the store about twenty years ago or less.

[shrewd mountain]

Halo feels like a slower doom

Enemy philosophy reminds me of half life more or less

[wild rose]

But god the amount of people who'll ask if I'm riding motocross because of the Slayer helmet which is coming

[urban compass]

Halo 1-3 and reach are really good, the rest are eh

[shrewd mountain]

I played CE and half of 2

I can't fully get into it

[wild rose]

My cousin who's bringing it asked if I started riding motorcycles

[urban compass]

I played them on heroic a couple years back and they’re good games, not as spectacular as I think most people make them out to be but they’re very nice

[wild rose]

I really loved 4 lol. Idk why people disliked it

[sonic turret]

It just seems like a complete different animal to Doom.

[urban compass]

I tried playing 4 and it turned me off so mych

[shrewd mountain]

Doom and halo share a lot of similarities but achieve different kinds of games

[urban compass]

It definetly is a different kind of fps, a halfway point between doom and cover shooters

[wild rose]

You gotta compare to what they had back then. Halo games were masterpieces compared to the FPS of the time

[sonic turret]

I mean I only really like Doom and the other id Software titles, I don't really play anything else.

[shrewd mountain]

If call of doom came out, I bet you top dollar it would be a halo clone

[wild rose]

The online and suit customization were also so fun lol

[urban compass]

That’s true, even if CE is probably my favorite halo game; that or reach

[sonic turret]

What's a cover shooter?

Like COD?

[shrewd mountain]

Cod

[urban compass]

Your cods and shit.

[shrewd mountain]

I can't play cod

[urban compass]

Aka the lame man’s fps

[tranquil dew]

Bro how do yall afford TDA😭

[shrewd mountain]

My brother asked me why I "hated" fps games, (i didn't like cod)

[void pollen]

I wouldn't even consider CoD a cover shooter at this point

[urban compass]

https://tenor.com/view/job-job-application-jobless-gif-2757097081210871087

[sonic turret]

I work for some very rich people who pay extremely well.

[shrewd mountain]

Government aid

[void pollen]

Game Pass lmao

[shrewd mountain]

I don't speak the language where I live and I live in bumfuck nowhere

I have no license and I can't get a job

Learning a language I hate

[wild rose]

I divided it 4 times on credit card lmao

I can barely afford it because I bought the Slayer's helmet

[wet parcel]

anyone know if There’s a photo mode?

[shrewd mountain]

I got CE with free shipping

[wild rose]

There isn't

[shrewd mountain]

Gamepass is the cheapest way to play TDA

[wet parcel]

God dammit….

[wild rose]

I thought you were still talking about Halo and got very confused

[shrewd mountain]

Even if you are on PC you can load it up

Except the loner ps5 users

[slim tulip]

I played the game yesterday and I can say that system requirements are kinda overestimated for minimum
It can run at stable 60 fps at my i5-12400f/rx6600/16gb ram pc
Which is kinda impressive, props to ID once again

[wet parcel]

Why the fuck did they get rid of photo mode?

[sonic turret]

Pretty much, but I prefer PlayStation though. I kinda wish I had an Xbox for the Warhammer exclusives.

[wild rose]

Did we have it on Eternal?

[wet parcel]

Yep

[shrewd mountain]

Did we have it on launch for any doom game?

[sonic turret]

Vega's back from vacation.

[void pollen]

It plays and looks (relatively) great on my Series S, but I wasn't really worried about performance when I saw how it ran Indiana Jones πr²

[wild rose]

Never ever saw a photo of it

[shrewd mountain]

There's 0 post launch content, be patient

[shrewd mountain]

Pc clears

[sonic turret]

Did anyone attend the launch party?

[wild rose]

I mean in this case maybe there is, I never found one on Eternal lol

[shrewd mountain]

I have both pc and xbox version, pc is just way more comprehensive

[wet parcel]

I can send you all the pictures I took in photo mode in eternal.

[slim tulip]

And idk how, but they always make even low preset look more than fine and playable

[wild rose]

https://youtu.be/dRZlW1KocdU?si=Mw3cRRlpIz3sOvyC

[shrewd mountain]

And eternal looked amazing on consoles

[wild rose]

Just send some lmao

[shrewd mountain]

Mere 7inches, I got 12 inches of doomslayer collectors edition

[wanton mauve]

hi ive been trying to trouble shoot this problem for the past 3 hours when i open the game i can hear the sound but it will open in the background and ive tried all the fixes on the doom website but nothing works it opened for me the first time and all i changed was from windowed mode to full screen and it pooped out after that if anyone can help me i would really appriceiate it

[sonic turret]

@shrewd mountain why do you have Plier on your profile photo?

[urban compass]

I wonder if we’ll get master levels for dark ages

[shrewd mountain]

Look at my profile

[wheat sigil]

presumably

[urban compass]

Sitting through credits rn hoping there’s a post credit scene like in eternal

[sonic turret]

What am I looking for?

[shrewd mountain]

My pfp and background gifs

[void pollen]

Whatever they're using for upscaling on the Xbox version is really good as well, the comically low internal ~850p res doesn't look too bad blown up to 4K from couch distance from my experience so far

[sonic turret]

I don't get it.

[wild rose]

Eternal had one?

[void pollen]

WAS THAT THE BITE OF '87⁉️

[shrewd mountain]

See he gets it

[urban compass]

Yeah with the zombie playing with toys in the fortress of soom

[void pollen]

Wasn't it the bite of '83 anyways

[sonic turret]

The what? Is that a Freddie thing?

[obtuse oyster]

"the cosmic realm awaits" more like the bed awaits I'm outta here

[sonic turret]

Or Stranger Things?

[void pollen]

Yes, it's a Cinco Noches con Alfredo reference

[shrewd mountain]

Yea

[frank rapids]

After playing the aratum level, I’m pretty sure that dark ages is my favorite out of it 2016, and eternal

[shrewd mountain]

Fnaf

You either are unc status, newgen or ragebait if you don't know what fnaf is

[sonic turret]

No idea what that is, but it looks like something from Stranger Things, like the mobile games on the Netflix app.

[shrewd mountain]

No disrespect 🙏

[sonic turret]

So what about the Markiplier part؟

[light socket]

try verifying the games files that is what fixed it for me

[shrewd mountain]

Markiplier is known for fnaf, he made the series popular

Plus it's a reference to a clip

[void pollen]

It's from a FNaF meme

[urban compass]

Dark ages is just the peak of rule of cool
(And being the first doom game with a good story)

[wanton mauve]

i wish ive done basiclly everything under the book in the help website and i guess imma have to wait for a new driver update or something

[short plinth]

turns out, I have no other choice but to get another PC

caveat: poor

[urban compass]

Monster hunter wilds needs to take notes on how to write a story in a triple A game

[sonic turret]

Oh, it always seemed a bit cheesy to me, like the ones with the Popeye and Pooh Bear slasher horror.

[shrewd mountain]

I can't believe i have to explain the bite of 87

[light socket]

the website doesn’t have the issue

if you are on steam you need to go into proprieties and verify files

[void pollen]

I would need to stick an RTX card in my sister's computer

caveat: lazy

[shrewd mountain]

Yea this is either ragebait or unc status

💔

[wet parcel]

There isn’t one sadly

[shrewd mountain]

Its fine if you don't like it

[urban compass]

Aw man, well might as well sit through it, I’ve gotten this far

[shrewd mountain]

Idc honestly, you asked what it was

[short plinth]

also, I'm majorly considering quitting streaming altogether, and never go on twitch at all

[urban compass]

I think I just reached the end lmao

[wet parcel]

I was disappointed too.

[shrewd mountain]

Ima head to bed

[void pollen]

inject the parry sound directly into my veins

[urban compass]

Oh hey new skin, sick

[obtuse oyster]

https://youtu.be/cioZxmy9FWM

they really put the first wraithstone in the BUMFUCK middle of nowhere bro jfc

[void pollen]

I'm at the 50% mark on my run as of tonight, finishing ts tomorrow hopefully, then I can 100% the save then start a 150% game speed run

[urban compass]

Tomorrow I’m gonna 100% my save file, then start UN runs

[tranquil dew]

can gamepass be shared

[void pollen]

not to my knowledge

[sonic turret]

Which one, the Barbarian?

[humble glacier]

im so stuck

[void pollen]

I gotta figure out if there's an animation cancel tech so I can quick swap without losing the shield

[tranquil dew]

have u tried doing it?

[void pollen]

I haven't bothered checking, also google dot com

[humble glacier]

i know if you throw the shield and then block it comes back instantly

[sonic turret]

It would be cool if you could develop a mod.

[wanton mauve]

im on xbox game pass

[light socket]

[wanton mauve]

aslo how yall got the shield

[tranquil dew]

its possible i looked it up

[sonic turret]

"The Quest"

[humble glacier]

wait i cant put pictures here damn it...

[molten spear]

Is anyone else not able to see the twitch doom skin drop in their inventory or even track the hours watched?

[void pollen]

It's intentionally that way tho, I just think the shield delay can be pretty punishing during more chaotic fights

[wanton mauve]

i have to do a quest?

[hollow coyote]

What's the best way to deal with night imps?

[silver garden]

hey guys , my 5070m can play this game well?

[void pollen]

the same advice I'd give to someone playing metal gear rising for the first time: just parry lmao

pull up your shield when you see the initial green flash, not when the enemy is starting to play the attack animation

[urban compass]

Nightmare skin

It’s basically the void skin but red instead of gold parts

[flint perch]

Yo so like how tf do I “only” have a 99% completion on the siege part 2 but I got literally all the collectibles 💀

I meant to put this in the spoiler channel but like idk if it’s a big deal or not

[urban compass]

Maybe you missed a challenge

[flint perch]

There were only 2 challenges

[errant pagoda]

iirc a 3rd challenge unlocks when you grab a new weapon on that map

[flint perch]

I didn’t get a new weapon on that map-

I got the chainshot on the map before

[errant pagoda]

Regarding completition, I noticed that failing to destroy enemy hell fighters in time doesn't show up on the stats screen, they are essentially 20 gold missed.

[flint perch]

My only guess is that maybe I didn’t find a life sigil or something

[errant pagoda]

have you found all secret areas tho? Even if you can't pick up the life sigil, the area is usually secret in which they are located.

[void pollen]

Does it still count them if you're maxed out?

[errant pagoda]

almost missed a few secrets cuz of that

[flint perch]

Yeah

[void pollen]

Oh thank god

[errant pagoda]

entering the area still counts

[mild loom]

Yes

[void pollen]

I might unintentionally be on track for a deathless first run so that helps to know

[flint perch]

I have no idea at this point, boutta stop playing the level I’m currently on rn and go back to hunt that secret down now 💀

It’s actually bothering me

[errant pagoda]

I wonder why the ability to revisit previous areas at the end of the map, like it was done in Eternal, was removed from TDA.

[void pollen]

I was confused about that when I got to the end of the first mission

Eventually I was like "fuck it, I'll just focus on the story then run through it again for the secrets"

[delicate stirrup]

Is it just me or do the Unwilling reuse their model from Eternal?

[wet mica]

Just finished the game, was pretty damn good, I honestly had more fun with it than the others, better flow and whatnot

[errant pagoda]

My guess would be that some maps in TDA change too drastically where it would make no sense/be broken.

[viral rover]

That and to encourage full replays

[tender vessel]

Pretty irritated with my game on Siege Part 1. Did all the arenas except one and it was closed off by some hell portal like I was inside it and couldn’t progress. Reloading checkpoints didn’t fix the issue. Having to play the map in its entirety over again. This was a big map.

[viral rover]

Not even the biggest either

[jovial gull]

gold counts to the percentage, maybe you missed some

[split saddle]

What’s the issue? You get to kill more demons again

[errant pagoda]

Some maps in TDA are really long. I mean that's not a bad thing, but when you do it cuz you missed that one secret, it feels tedious.

[viral rover]

I feel like I’ll end up putting about a thousand hours on this shit honestly. It clicks with me more than eternal did. I spent about 500 or so on eternal

[split saddle]

Maps in doom eternal are way longer I feel like, cultist base for an example is a slog to get through

[viral rover]

Mostly due to how every checkpoint has 3 arena fights in CB

[jovial gull]

Super gore nest or whatever it was was really long too

[split saddle]

ugh

[tender vessel]

I’m more mad my game was bonked. I’ll know siege part 1 by heart second time.

[viral rover]

TDA is a longer game though

22 main levels vs 13 main levels

[jovial gull]

its fire, hate the upgrade system tho, gold is just too stupid and the placements are so dumb and hard to reach

[urban compass]

Dark ages maps are way longer than eternal maps, eternal maps do have a lot of stalling and platforming though

[viral rover]

The upgrades are OP as fuck though

[humble glacier]

ah i just got a funny bug lol

[jovial gull]

what do you mean i gotta backtrack the whole map to get 5 gold

😭 😭 😭

[urban compass]

Id software has trained me like a rat to collect gold

[teal spire]

ooh i love doom dark ages so much

[split saddle]

The gold bars are just cheese

[urban compass]

I will backtrack halfway across the map for 5 gold

[viral rover]

Love the Plutonia chain gunners behind doors gag. Always a “joy”

[urban compass]

I fucking love cheese

Fuck you vega you’re not even in the dark ages

[zenith iris]

Is there a bug causing secrets to get stuck at 0 even after collecting?
Any fix or will chapter still be 100 after completing if I collect everything

[urban compass]

dark ages is faithful to classic doom because chaingunners and revenants are giant pains in the ass

[jovial gull]

We talking about bugs? heard that the berserker achievement trophy is bugged

bummer

[river plinth]

Never mind on my end the secret key reset to its original location when I died. I mean it's a bug but not a terrible one

[jovial gull]

Faithful to doom 3 too, brings back the vagary for some fucking reason 🔥

[zenith iris]

Even after dying it's still at 0 , I've collected 5 so far

[void pollen]

with no booba -100000/10 trash game

[flint perch]

I got all the gold

[split saddle]

I think you missed a challenge

[river plinth]

You mean the challenge in the forge ?

[urban compass]

I really like the vagary so he can chill, great for activating shield runes

[zenith iris]

I mean the secrets that are spread across the level, collectibles and resources
I've collected them and it's still showing 0/11 for chapter 6

[flint perch]

The only challenges that are showing are roadhouse and exterminator

[urban shuttle]

How tf do I change my Bethesda account on the game

I want the butcher skin

[river plinth]

Haven't had this happen to me. Sorry. Even after restarting the level ?

[zenith iris]

I haven't tried restarting since I had made so much progress, I was wondering if it still counts as long as the collecting them.

[humble glacier]

ahh whenever an animation happens now im invisible lol

[lethal mural]

At what point did doom become a story driven fantasy adventure with a heavy emphasis on mele combat.... it feels like they could have just made a new ip, at this point. Not that every doom has to be the same, but its getting very far from its sci-fi horror concept.

[jovial gull]

they made him more annoying than his doom 3 counterpart, doom 3 vagary is js cannon fodder, also its female there. They done wokefied this game, i can't anymore, we are living in 1984!!

😭 😭 😭

[lethal mural]

Slayer would be pretty screwed if they ever decide to not shoot the green projectiles.

[river plinth]

Try and see if they're counted when you reach the end. Worst case scenario you redo the level on your second run

[fair glen]

algun soporte en español

[urban compass]

I support trans vagary

[flint perch]

It turned out to indeed be a life orb

Do I have to complete the level now or can I just leave this shit

[urban compass]

Because it’s cool, duh

Also the knight stuff has been hinted at from 2016

[lethal mural]

its a cool idea, but its not that well implemented

[urban compass]

It’s literally perfectly implamented

Way better than the chainsaw in past games

[jovial gull]

since the guardian fight iirc, since that point you can clearly notice

[plain iron]

trans vagary is canon..

[urban compass]

I’m so proud of him for his transition, hope he’s living his best life

[lethal mural]

Not really. It doesnt really make sense for enemies to fire slow weirdly shaped projectiles that are sometimes parriable... it doesnt really make sense for enemies to burst when other enemies get hit by a shield... Also hell was meant to be threatening... they have been making it more and more goofy since 2016

[plain iron]

I heard Ahzrak has good healthcare, that supports trans surgeries under his government policy. Might move to hell yk

[jovial gull]

man its doom its not hell let loose or something lmao, doom has always been at least sometimes goofy, doom 3 is probably the only one that is really "serious"

[lethal mural]

It is definitely one of the core elements of the series that story is not that important.... they even maintained that to 2016 when doomguy destroyed the monitor that was trying to explain the story

[plain iron]

"Im evil as hell. I have public trans healthcare. Big pharma hates me"
- Ahzrak probably

[urban compass]

You are nitpicking game mechanics at this point. You could make such observations about most games. Like cuphead and it’s parry system. Also doom has never been that serious. Even 2016 had gags

[lethal mural]

the first 3 games were unsettling

[urban compass]

Ok but the story this time is actually good

[vagrant path]

doom has had a bit of a story focus since 2004 with doom 3, and honestly I support this new direction.

[urban compass]

Dude you are absolutely blinded by nostalga

[lethal mural]

its not a minor nitpick. im pointing out that the central mechanic of the game doesnt make sense

[jolly geyser]

d00m is very serious game

[lethal mural]

Ah yes, the "its supposed to be stupid" defence

[jolly geyser]

no its the fucking eternal nonsense where if they make one different thing, its not doom.

[jovial gull]

First 2 games where the soundtrack are literally midi ripoffs of metal songs, ok LMAO

[urban compass]

It’s there to justify the new gameplay

[lethal mural]

actually they fired the story guy. Carmack was against it on a philosophical level

[urban compass]

That doesn’t change the fact that dark ages has a good story

[lethal mural]

No, its the "its meant to be stupid" defence.... mixed in with "things cannot get worse over time, change is always good" fallacy

[odd lance]

Dark ages is so fun

[jolly geyser]

that is eternal arguments for 5+ years.

[vagrant path]

yeah dark ages is genuinely exciting, it has me on the edge of my seat anticipating what'll happen next.

[urban compass]

You are stuck in the past

[jovial gull]

doom 3 part 2

[jolly geyser]

you just repeated 5 years of arguments.

[jovial gull]

🙏

[vagrant path]

keep up with the times or get left behind lmfao

[fluid vector]

Fr

[lethal mural]

No, i think you just like shiny new thing...

[long sparrow]

Well Eternal introduced the greater focus on the story and the fantasy elements were already established in the lore since 2016, Eternal expanded on them and TDA seems like the natural evolution. Focus on melee combat is something new and it's definitely tied to the theme of the game with the medieval tone, but there's also as much gunplay as well. Overall TDA feels like the natural evolution of what we saw in 2016 and Eternal while also bringing fresh concepts into the table.

[humble glacier]

i only played eternal and dark ages and i prefer this more just coz im a big diablo fan feels like im playing a first person diablo game lol

[jovial gull]

Is it a hate crime to like the shiny new thing? Do we gotta stay glazing the old games? Cmon bruh

[urban compass]

Get ready because this argument is never gonna stop. Doom, a franchise that is constantly reinventing itself, has a fanbase that can’t accept a change in gameplay formula because it’s “not doom”

[lethal mural]

It was fine in 2016 because it was there if you want it, in the background. It was slightly more in depth in eternal but could still be comfortably ignored... Now its this full on lord of the rings rip off.... its cringe af.

and the story itself is delivered poorly... there are literal scenes missing.

[urban compass]

Cutscenes are literally skippable if you want

[sleek ermine]

the shields explode?

thought you knew

[lethal mural]

it depends on the quality. the new game is not as good as 2016 or eternal.

[vagrant path]

where are these "missing scenes", are they in the room with us right now?

[fluid vector]

I enjoy all the games to an extent like my only issue with eternal is not being able to use the weapon of your choice which even then I don't rlly mind

[lethal mural]

Why?

[long sparrow]

It's not a big deal imo. TDA was announced as a prequel to 2016 and Eternal so we all knew we were going to see the Slayer fighting with the sentinels. The aesthetics are cool because they are a blend of medieval and sci-fi tones, so it's definitely not a LOTR rip off because last I checked LOTR doesn't have plasma guns or mechs.

[fluid vector]

:O me want darkages