the-dark-ages

[plain iron]

Mhm. I use 3d models as references when drawing big things. My shitty laptop ain't built for that lmao

[soft sonnet]

but this game runs like garbage no matter what i try

[jaunty beacon]

the thing is, that's just strange and unecessary

[zealous hamlet]

Prove it

[tranquil zodiac]

i bought mine in brazil for R$1400 which is about 220 dollars

[long sparrow]

Right

[mental violet]

i feel like eternal itself kinda proves that it's not strictly necessary

[violet lynx]

rage bait, i got 240fps with a 2080 super in eternal which is around $200 on used msrket

[honest vortex]

They feel like some DOOM II Plutonia type shit lol

[plain iron]

It's still not id's fault. It is a driver issue. Something beyond their control.

[honest vortex]

Honestly I kinda like them, even if they feel a bit bullshit lol

[light socket]

how long do you think it will take to be fixed

[lilac flint]

My damn saves are missin :(

[mental violet]

idk what's with all the crashes, somehow i genuinely haven't crashed once

[zealous hamlet]

Sure, but they chose to go in this direction because they know where the industry is headed.

[light socket]

also this doesn’t seem like a driver issue

[violet lynx]

Doom Eternal looks fantastic and gets 4x better fps than dark ages

[tranquil zodiac]

its not rage bait. I have an RX6600. Look up the price.

[mental violet]

the game hasn't even hitched

[lilac flint]

it is not

[slim crypt]

i wish i could shit like that that’s dope

[zealous hamlet]

Dxifferent game on a different engine. Pointless comparison.

[honest vortex]

People really underrate this game's soundtrack. It slaps. The OST on Siege Part 1 is phenomenal

[jaunty beacon]

we have gone since the beginning of first person shooters using the same tech for hit detection, with no performance problems and no issues, then comes DOOM of all games, which does NOT need accurate hit detection, using an unreliable GPU instead of a very reliable CPU for hit detection

[lilac flint]

i played it multiple times yesterday all saves are there, tried playin today its as if i never booted it up

[mental violet]

I mean if their decisions benefited the game in the end so be it, although I would have gladly waited a bit longer for raster implementation or just, less modern gpu heavy settings so that people on lower end hardware could run it better

[violet lynx]

oh yeah because optimization should go backwards on a newer engine, 0/10 rage bait

[honest vortex]

Also the orchestra and choir songs remind me of classic Halo

[zealous hamlet]

We haven't. Hit detection has changed so much over the years, lol

[light socket]

is the game on ps5 at this point i might as well just play it on there

[tranquil zodiac]

i did not get A SINGLE stutter or framerate drop. I'm seriously impressed with the optimization. Usually raytracing is hell to run

[mental violet]

yeah its crazy

[jaunty beacon]

hit detection is a pivotal component of every first person shooter, last thing i need is janky gpu accelerated hit detection

[long sparrow]

It really isn't. They are just trying to force new tech on people and for that, the steam numbers aren't as big. My RTX moves eternal at 120+fps on ultra settings, so I really don't need to upgrade just so my bullets can do better 'maths" lol

[honest vortex]

That DOOM II ass bassline at the start of fights in Siege Part 1 is classic

[mental violet]

(doom eternal still having perfectly fine hit detection btw)

[soft sonnet]

im pretty sure the game's optimization just sucks, it doesn't even look that good, and at low settings it runs terribly. every other game i play has great performance even with ray tracing, high graphics, high fps

[plain iron]

Drawing isn't hard imo, just making it look good is the hard part

[inner wigeon]

I feel in a month people are going to realize how well made this game.

[mental violet]

if I recall someone mentioned the stated reason being that it's faster to develop like this so the answer really is just that they didn't wanna spend longer on the game

[tranquil zodiac]

people complaining are the ones who haven't upgraded their pc since 2018

[zealous hamlet]

Aren't you begging for the game? stfu

[slim crypt]

i did art for my gcses that shit made me quit lmao

[mental violet]

I mean I'm running a 4080 and I kinda get people's complaints

[honest vortex]

"doesn't look that good" what? Maybe Xbox Series X version is an exception, but it looks incredible on the Xbox.

I heard the PlayStation ports sucked though

[wind dew]

Why did they pick such a non well known Pizza place for an exclusive skin instead of like Pizza Hut or something?

[lilac flint]

running a 2070 super and its running fine for me

[violet lynx]

an rtx 5090 gets half the fps thr 3080 does, 0/10 rage bait

[mental violet]

although I don't know exactly what people with low end hardware are trying to run

[light socket]

of course i sold my two xbox’s and only have a ps5

[lilac flint]

when my fuckin saves are there

[hard thistle]

🔥

[long sparrow]

I am loving it, I think it's fantastic and it runs incredibly well on Series X. My only gripe is the whole deal around RT on PC, as I had all my doom games there and I am salty I can't add DA to the collection.

[frigid wigeon]

has the slayer been through the divinity machine by the time dark ages takes place\

[mental violet]

not sure if that entirely counts as low end hardware

[violet lynx]

are you getting 200fps cuz i was able to get 200fps in eternal

[lilac flint]

u really dont need 200 fps

[slate silo]

Any fix for the twitch campaign not even showing up yet?

[honest vortex]

Dare I say it. I prefer Siege Part 1 OST over the Ancient Gods music

[hard thistle]

im replaying the other games when i 100% this

[mental violet]

im half tempted to upgrade to a 5000 series so I could technically max out a 240 monitor, I was thinking of upgrading to one lol, you're right though

[long sparrow]

Is it truly worth it for them tho? Faster dev time over more players/sales? Idk really.

[split saddle]

Dude, I went to work, I go on a break and I still see this guy talk about his 200 fps in eternal

[violet lynx]

u dont need anything fun in life as well, we dont need dark ages

[light socket]

when quake 5

[split saddle]

It gotta be a bot, there is no way, he’s fucking synthetic

[mental violet]

that's up to the individual I suppose, I wouldn't have minded waiting longer myself, I'm in no rush to play new games with my backlog

I can run the game fine myself though

[violet lynx]

can you gift me dark ages please since you alot of money,

[long sparrow]

Same, wouldn't have minded to wait more myself

[lilac flint]

brother just enjoy the game, if ur havin a bad time its not worth wasting ur time here talkin ab it

[zealous hamlet]

Synthetic is right, but not a bot.

[mental violet]

I've always got a million other games to play while waitin

[tranquil zodiac]

you're the one ragebaiting here

[lilac flint]

i was enjoying it heaps while i could load my fuckin saves :( that seem to be missing :(

[violet lynx]

that messge is a fact its not rage bait

[hard thistle]

i never played through eternals dlc yet 💀

[long sparrow]

Feels familiar lol

[light socket]

what world is bro living in

[split saddle]

My only issue with the game is that I wish there were a few more enemies in areas, like the cosmic swamp feels empty most of the game, it’s just a whole ass nothing burger, the loop hallway is pretty cool I guess

[violet lynx]

you are the one rage baiting saying games should force people to spend 6k on a 5090

[mental violet]

this argument will probably be easily settled once benchmark videos come out en masse

[light socket]

5090s don’t cost that much

[mental violet]

so this discussion is kind of pointless

[tranquil zodiac]

bruh this is the third time i said this: i have a 150$ card and im running the game perfectly fine

[light socket]

i got mine for 3k from newegg which still isn’t good but it isn’t 6k

[split saddle]

U don’t need a 5090 to run the game smooth wtf 😭

[mental violet]

will admit though they are freaaaaaking expensive, even at msrp which they often aren't, I would upgrade to a 5090 for the performance uplift but like, it's genuinely unaffordable even for me who uses high end hardware lol

[violet lynx]

theres alresdy benchmarks, 5090 gets 170fps on average in dark ages 1080p medium with 9800x3d, my 3080 with a 12600k and get 320fps on aversge in eternal

[mental violet]

would rather spend that money on other hardware

[zealous hamlet]

Hardware Unboxed already has benchmarks. Dude's just some kid begging for the game.

[light socket]

they are mine cost a fuck ton

[mental violet]

okay that is hardcore trolling, with dlss quality enabled I get 60fps base on 4k with my 4080

[light socket]

so you are comparing it to eternal

[violet lynx]

yes

[tranquil zodiac]

why are you saying the game needs to be on 170fps to be playable

[versed fulcrum]

Oh sure if you're comparing it to a used car

[light socket]

eternal can run on the switch and dark ages can’t

[mental violet]

60 is playable for me, I can frame gen it up to 120 for the visual smoothness, 120 is ideal for quick reflex shooters but like, I can play at 60

[light socket]

eternal can run on basically xbox 360 hardware

[mental violet]

I dare you to run eternal on an xbox 360 lol

[plucky plinth]

may I mention that Eternal only supported up to a 4 year old GPU at launch, compared to TDA's 6 year old GPU

[long sparrow]

120 is the sweet spot for me although I don't mind 60 at all too.

[violet lynx]

if i spend 4k on a 5090 i should expect to get atleast 240fps at 1080p with a 9800x3d, but somehow the performanfe is 2x worse than 3080 and 12600k in eternal even tho eternal lookd alnost as good

[lilac flint]

hey does anyone have a save file they can send my at like chapter 5?

[light socket]

tbh since it can run on the switch it probably could

[rugged hill]

Replaying eternal and it honestly feels slower

[plucky plinth]

You had even less flexibility in terms of what GPUs you could use with Eternal

[mental violet]

it's technically similar hardware power but I think you'd run into several other issues

[light socket]

well yeah

[zealous hamlet]

I think some homebrewer has, actually.

[mental violet]

I mean actually the switch is better, switch games can run at 1080p docked, xbox 360 only renders 720p natively

[light socket]

hold on ima boost the server rq i need image perms

[mental violet]

wait.. seriously?

[plucky plinth]

server boosting does not give image perms

[light socket]

BRO

[split saddle]

loool

[zealous hamlet]

No but you see it's worse now because....

[mental violet]

I mean if it's rendering at like 720p, fair enough I suppose

[light socket]

i have personal beef with whoever owns this server now

[plucky plinth]

The only way you can send images through here is by embedding them

[jaunty beacon]

it has always worked on the very basic concept of trace a line > check for an intersection > register hit if it hit something
then TDA comes along and swaps out the check for an intersection part for check for an intersection on the GPU, which is just... why? it will not give any significant performance benefit, and it's not a tactical shooter so accurate hitboxes are completely pointless and wasted

[split saddle]

Hugo

[plucky plinth]

Hey! At least you're blue now. You can also now use external emoji.

[jaunty beacon]

could use AABB and it would still feel the same

[mental violet]

I have a friend who was a mod here around the eternal launch and dlc days, they left a long time ago lol

[light socket]

[mental violet]

idk if anyone remembers bob

[plain iron]

...bob?

[light socket]

i can’t even use external stickers

[plain iron]

OH I WAS RIGHT

[tranquil zodiac]

WHAT I got everything, why is siege 1 99% complete

[light socket]

i’ve been ripped off worse then the server i moderate

[mental violet]

yeah we still chat about monster hunter and stuff

[plucky plinth]

I remember him a bit

[plain iron]

[mental violet]

been somewhat friends with them for years at this point

[split saddle]

Challenge?

[merry sapphire]

bob ??

[tranquil zodiac]

oh...... yeah its that :|

[mental violet]

wonder how they'd feel about stuff if they were still here, they say they like the new game

[mental violet]

yeah

[light socket]

so how long until nvidia fixes the drivers

[mental violet]

bob's still chillin, playing monster hunter and doom as always

[light socket]

i want to be able to play the game

[plucky plinth]

Never. GPU companies suck.

[merry sapphire]

game is pretty stable with me

[merry sapphire]

sick, whyd he leave anyway

[light socket]

i’m sure it would be stable with me if i was able to play it

[mental violet]

just want to note that bob appears to like the game

[mental violet]

idk I think he just got tired moderating, I asked a couple times but it was a while back

he still does like doom and all that

[merry sapphire]

why didnt he just stick around as a member then

[split saddle]

Whenever I see the name bob I just think of that old age YouTube copy and paste stickman in comments “this is bob”

[mental violet]

no clue, haven't really asked

[light socket]

what is y’all’s favorite doom game

[slate silo]

Any fix for twitch drop yet?

[jaunty beacon]

Doom 3

[light socket]

same

[merry sapphire]

doom 2 rpg

[mental violet]

he doesn't generally appear to like public places much tbh, he doesn't join a lot of the monster hunter servers

[plucky plinth]

Doom 1/Ultimate Doom

if we count mods, Doom 2

[split saddle]

Doom dark age gotta be my new favourite

[light socket]

tbh i expected a whole bunch of people to only say the modern doom games

[slate silo]

Any fix for twitch drop yet?

[tranquil zodiac]

bruh wdym "get on the turret" i dont want to get on the turret

[plucky plinth]

Get on the turret.

[light socket]

doom 3, Quake 4, and prey 2006 are the best games ever

[split saddle]

I beat doom eternal but never saw myself playing it again, some of the levels just drag on too long.

The sliders in dark ages is such a nice addition

[tranquil zodiac]

how do i stop dying on the turret? I feel like i missed a tutorial

[slate silo]

Any fix for twitch drop yet?

[plucky plinth]

It's fun, I swear /s

[merry sapphire]

it worked with me

[boreal coyote]

This game is so awesome

[split saddle]

Shoot everything

[plucky plinth]

Trust me, you didn't. It's just a shitty mechanic.

[light socket]

prey 2006 is still the most expensive game i own on pc

[wise lily]

Idk if anyone answered but no, you can just keep running

[plucky plinth]

I've yet to die on one, but it still sucks.

[slate silo]

First try? So it immediately showed upß

[merry sapphire]

i dont think its that deep you only use the turret twice in the whole game. its a glorified cutscene thats a cool watch

[mental violet]

oh, apparently the reason bob left is cuz of like, gore posting

[plucky plinth]

Oh nice, I don't gotta deal with it again.

[royal bear]

There's a free skin after opting into getting Bethesda email, but it won't let me claim it

[wise lily]

Yeah the turret segments shouldn't need a tutorial anyway lmao. It's pretty simple

[light socket]

just straight up gore or video game gore

[merry sapphire]

i just put on a twitch stream and went to take a shit and when i came back i redeemed it

[wise lily]

Shoot gun, shoot backpack demons for kaboom, shoot bolt at titan 3 times to kill it

[merry sapphire]

i take a 50 minute shit

[tranquil zodiac]

i died twice in the second turret segment. Glad i won't have to see this again so soon

[jaunty beacon]

was it this server where there was some everyone ping and there was just people spamming gore and shit or was it something else

[slate silo]

Yeah but the campaign on twitch doesnt even show up (the pop up at top of chat or in the drops tab)

[mental violet]

like real life

[light socket]

[merry sapphire]

thats weird, it popped up for me. you sure you watching the actual streams that have drops

[light socket]

is there a way to install old drivers from nvidia

[merry sapphire]

my only problem with the turret stuff is that you cant really regenerate health or dodge an attack. so some attacks are gonna hit you no matter what and that pisses me off

[jaunty beacon]

DDU new drivers, install old drivers

[light socket]

like is there an archive of old drivers

[hard thistle]

I just discovered you can still use fsr fram gen even if you're using a nvidia card

[slate silo]

yeah, I got like 500 drops for other games, so I know how it works 😅
They do have the tag on twitch and I also tried many different big streamer

[jaunty beacon]

nvidia's own site is an archive

[errant mason]

You can roll them back

[slate silo]

Its just not even in the campaigns tab where all available campaigns are listed

[merry sapphire]

thats weird,,, idk What to say Man u Might be Schlopped

[lilac flint]

i miss my saves man

[light socket]

alr ima try that i need to play this game

[merry sapphire]

what happened

[mental violet]

bob says it's nice that people remember him and he hopes he made a positive impact while he was there, that's wholesome

[candid jay]

My games just stuck on black screen starting siege 2, odd

[mental violet]

im glad a few people seem to remember him positively

[lilac flint]

they were, and then they werent

[tranquil zodiac]

is it me or does the ball and chain gun kinda suck

[zealous hamlet]

That thing wrecks with the parry upgrade. You can unload a full charge on successful parry.

[royal bear]

Every time I hit claim, nothing happens. Doesn't even show up on my transaction history

[candid jay]

It's pretty strong wdym lmfao, are you even charging it up to hit

[rapid brook]

i'm mildly confused, how much are you supposed to be blocking vs strafing? when the dudes with miniguns shoot at me i have no time to react

[zealous hamlet]

Block that, as far as I can tell.

[candid jay]

You can't strafe it, just supposed to block or kill them as soon as you can

[long sparrow]

It slaps, melts through armor with ease

[honest vortex]

I'm surprised about the amount of people preferring Eternal over Dark Ages.

I prefer pretty much everything about Dark Ages so far.

[tranquil zodiac]

yeah but an SSG instakills a lot of things with a single shot, and the charged impaler headshot wreaks havoc

[candid jay]

or find environmental los blockers so you can avoid the damage

[flat pulsar]

Expecting that since both games are so different

[candid jay]

yup but you need to be a lot closer, reaver can be midrange and deal a lot more damage than ssg can if none of its pellets hit

ssg u just sacrifice taking heavy hits from closerange enemies basically (or in big crowds u can't afford to use it at all)

[tranquil zodiac]

yeah ever since i got to siege 1 ive been getting closer to prefering dark ages as well

[inner wigeon]

2 shots a Mancubus, but mancubi output a lot of stuff too.

[honest vortex]

God I fucking love Cyberdemons in this game. So much more challenging, threatening, and mechanically interesting than Eternal's Tyrants.

[zealous hamlet]

Chainball is my go to champion weapon, since I'm gonna be parrying nonstop, and that's a big health bar.

[candid jay]

surprisingly theyre about the same to me after finishing the game, dun rly prefer one over another just because of how varying and different their gameplay is

[tranquil zodiac]

from what ive seen most close range attacks are parriable

[inner wigeon]

I think this game is about doing MORE than your opposition, being limited by the fact that your lot of things have to be comboed. Or you can just crutch one weapon and say the games too easy

[honest vortex]

Also it just hit me that Eternal had an obsession for green light enemies because they were testing for parry mechanics. 😂

[candid jay]

in big crowds u cant parry and block everything at the same time they usually drain ur shield out so sometimes u need to maintain distance hence y smth like reaver or impaler could be better prioritized than ssg (like if ur getting machine gun spammed while another hellknight is coming at u)

[naive schooner]

Anyone know some recommended settings for 120 fps+, on a rtx 3060 16 ddr4 ram

I’m at like 100 with mostly low graphics

[tranquil zodiac]

i just said i prefer impaler over ball and chain. imo impaler is goated

[honest vortex]

Siege 1 is so damn amazing. Also it's so huge and explorative and the combat is a big difficulty spike

[plush bloom]

anyone else have problems with it saying error cannot save while playing and crash at end of chapter one? im using the xbox app to play if that matters

[candid jay]

yea impaler is good, a bit more aim work required and it does drop over distance but still very good high dmg

[barren warren]

has anyone made a full list of upgrades and their costs, need to plan out my un run

[light socket]

i love how the support page says you can come here but in the support channel you don’t even have image perms

[zealous hamlet]

I think that's about as good as you're going to get with the min ram and a 6GB gpu

[naive schooner]

Fair enough I’ll take what I can get, thanks

[tranquil zodiac]

i have been very consistent landing headshots almost always. It's easier to aim than eternal's ballista at close range imo

[candid jay]

yea it is, tho since its a single target only weapon i usually pull out reaver when i need a few more targets taking dmg

[zealous hamlet]

fwiw, first level seems to be a bit harder on the framerate.

[tranquil zodiac]

the charged impaler shot does aoe damage on hit

[naive schooner]

I’m on chapter 3 rn, been way too easy so far(currently ultra violence) does it get harder or should I up difficulty?

[candid jay]

o yea tru

[naive schooner]

Ah got you thanks

[honest vortex]

I might even prefer them over the 2016 Cyberdemon boss fight.

[tranquil zodiac]

dude i hate invisible imp stalkers get tf away from me

[honest vortex]

I think Siege Part 1 is a big difficulty increase and that's mission 6

[zealous hamlet]

Try upping game speed

[naive schooner]

Got you thanks

[naive schooner]

Was gonna look into that, gonna check it out now thank you

[oblique glen]

Got up to level 18 today. Fantastic game so far.

[tranquil zodiac]

i can say with 100% confidence that AT THE VERY LEAST, the non arena map design is way better than eternal's

[short berry]

does anybody know how to mess with fram gen, cuz its greyed out for me

[errant mason]

For anyone looking for optimization tricks this will be a good place to start

https://bsky.app/profile/dachsjaeger.bsky.social/post/3lp7sireizk2o

Alex Battaglia (@dachsjaeger.bsky.social)

As a technical reviewer of PC games, I wish EVERY game had the level of frame-time perfection that Doom The Dark Ages has. It is masterfully optimised on PC! In this video I go over what the settings do, how lower end GPUs can increase performance, and much more!
Enjoy!
youtu.be/-FjdOQmAHpk?...

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[short berry]

oh dope

[coarse pagoda]

Finished the game loved could have been a bit longer hoping the dlc will be about the events between dark ages and 2016 it but really disappointed at how much I was crashing on console I was crashing every 10-25 minutes oddly I've also had this problem with eternal but no other games on my Xbox

[inner wigeon]

Agreed, the fight arenas look good but lack practicality

[oblique glen]

I'm surprised console is crashing. I've had 0 crashes and only 1 very minor bug. (PC)

[tranquil zodiac]

so far i have no complaints about the arenas, i just don't know if i'd rank them higher than eternal's

[coarse pagoda]

I've had this one occuring bug where the sound will just start disappearing until it's completely silent and parts of the UI and guns just disappear

[inner wigeon]

I believe it was the level after siegep2, the arena you jump into has you slanted slightly up so that it’s difficult to hit enemies with a arachnatron far behind it, I found it best to wait for the Mancubus to come to me and do nothing for 20 seconds. Some design flaws imo make the gameplay less enticing.

[viral rover]

Nightmare is insane

Had to set the controller down for a second

[merry sapphire]

me After i Wake up:

[sonic elm]

how do i get the game to start when it says "Raytracing Incompatible GPU. A GPU with hardware raytracing capabilities and at least 8GB of dedicated VRAM is required to launch the game."?

[real lynx]

Do you have a ray tracing capable gpu with at least 8gb of ram

[sonic elm]

i have a gtx 1660

[real lynx]

Then you don't

[inner wigeon]

2 more gb than my phone

[sonic elm]

how do i dont dont

[merry sapphire]

you cant make this shit up man @slim crypt

[real lynx]

Buy a new gpu

[sonic elm]

which one?

only got $1000

[real lynx]

Look at the minimum spec, pick a budget

[sonic elm]

ok thanks

[short berry]

can a 3070 do frame gen

[merry sapphire]

no

[short berry]

bruh

[merry sapphire]

exact reason why i upgraded from a 3070 to a 5070

framegen is too good

[short berry]

fsr frame gen works tho so i might as well try that

[merry sapphire]

idk i tried it on marvel rivals and it sucked ass

[raven quail]

THIS IS SO FUCKING AWESOME

LIKE OMG THIS GAME IS SO BADASS IK IT SOUNDS LIKE IM MEATRIDING BUT IM LOVING THIS GAME

[zealous hamlet]

It's good. It's not "redefine the genre" good tho.

[mental violet]

those enemies were some of my favs from the base game once you got a hang of them

[raven quail]

Never said it did

[sleek heath]

How do i get the shoulder mounted gun

[mental violet]

it's kind of satisfying to one cycle a marauder with an op weapon combo

[raven quail]

Is there one?

[oblique glen]

||Shield upgrade later, can't miss it. ||

[real lynx]

Shield rune later in the gameb

[sleek heath]

Ohh ok

[tranquil zodiac]

the map design is so peak this time around

[fleet spruce]

ASUS finally released drivers and I played first 3 levels just to get a taste before I'm able to play it all next week. Amazing so far, runs and looks quite good on my ROG Ally X.

[slim crypt]

i wish i was blind for reading this shit

[oblique glen]

The hell maps just don't miss. All of them from 2016, Eternal, to DA. Love them.

[zealous hamlet]

Well that sucks, game just hard crashed my PC.

[pliant agate]

Hey all! How are people here enjoying getting medieval?

[vagrant gale]

do you guys know if there's a way to make the dot crosshair larger and change it's color?

[merry sapphire]

electron put in the effort to spoiler it just for you to not do that LMAO

[tranquil zodiac]

i like how the music is more like classic doom

[raven quail]

8 hour run lol

[merry sapphire]

are you fighting with the game or something 😭

[real lynx]

I mean its not really a spoiker

[honest vortex]

The puzzles/platforming/exploration is so cool when going for secret hunting.

It also has a strong sense of place like DOOM 2016, while adding Eternal's gamey type elements.

Great balance there

[merry sapphire]

yeah i meant that it was kinda funny

[zealous hamlet]

I've had the game running for the past 8 hours

[slim crypt]

yo i can 240fps on a gtx 750 on eternal fuck tda raghhhh

[merry sapphire]

why would you do that

[pliant agate]

I have to admit, I was kinda scared when I saw a 1-star review on Google. But thankfully I played it and don’t agree with it lol

[zinc vigil]

Xbox

[zealous hamlet]

Fucking hilarious that it crashed immediately after I said it wasn't "redefine the genre" good.

[honest vortex]

Something I will say is I wish you had control over the wall climbing like in Eternal rather than him just automatically going up

[long sparrow]

Dark Ages only lets you play if you have a RT compatible GPU.

[zealous hamlet]

Cause I can tab in and out all day long.

[pliant agate]

People will complain whether Dark Ages “redefines” the genre or not

[hard thistle]

i guess they havent built much of the platforming mechanics

[slim crypt]

i mean what’s the reason to control it tho

[honest vortex]

Same. The game is fantastic

[merry sapphire]

i love how unique doom the dark ages is but redefine the genre doesnt work with it since its too unique for that. its like saying outer wilds redefines the genre when its not a genre in the first place

[mortal estuary]

does anyone know where the secret key is in the huge map level i think its level 6?

[slim crypt]

that’s what you get game said fuck u

[zealous hamlet]

It's probably the most Doom a thing can be, and that's good enough for me.

[honest vortex]

I like jumping upwards or regrabbing to speed it up

[oblique glen]

#1369206341003903018 is probably a better spot to ask that.

[sudden stump]

am I losing it or is there no way to disable the tutorials

[mortal estuary]

okay thank you

[slim crypt]

bro my game is literally paused and the music is so good in my ears rn

[raven quail]

spoiler ig ||MY DRAGON JUST GODZILLAD A DEMON||

[tranquil zodiac]

its a new genre

[pliant agate]

Also, if it “redefines” the genre, old fans will complain. If it stays the same, new fans will complain lol

[honest vortex]

I do find Dark Ages the most Doomy game of the new Dooms, even more Doomy than 2016

[oblique glen]

Shield fps? lol

[merry sapphire]

yah

[slim crypt]

there’s a whole channel for spoilers

[late nest]

I have know idea if this is a know problem but i can't login into my bethesda.net account on doom (tda) i put in my info and it say connecting and then stop there and doesn't connect my account please help

[zealous hamlet]

Parry-person-perspective

[raven quail]

I put ig

[merry sapphire]

just open it trust me

[honest vortex]

Idk about new genre, but it's probably the coolest melee mechanics in an FPS

[raven quail]

Also what if I see the ending there bro

[pliant agate]

It is a Doom game of all time 😆

[slim crypt]

i don’t see shit tbh

[pliant agate]

Agreed here

[slim crypt]

then it is what it is

[raven quail]

No I’d get pissed lol

[merry sapphire]

its not a spoiler just open it

[zealous hamlet]

I haven't made it, but I assume we kill a demon or two, at least.

[tranquil zodiac]

well, at least it is a mashup of genres i haven't seen before.

[pliant agate]

Some people already got the Platinum on the PS5 version

[slim crypt]

i did but i’m confused you talking about mono?

did you just spoil to mono lmao

[pliant agate]

I love how when the Slayer falls… it’s the bad guys who take fall damage

[merry sapphire]

huh

[raven quail]

Yeah but idk

[merry sapphire]

im talking about you replying to link

[long sparrow]

[raven quail]

What…

[slim crypt]

ohhhhhhh shit my bad lmao

[tranquil zodiac]

this game is so peak bro

[oblique glen]

Its almost too strong? Fall 10 feet and kill 20 demons.

[merry sapphire]

You Still High As Hell man 😂 ❓

[slim crypt]

i’m fucked lmao

i’m laughing at a mancubus that has no arms rn

[frosty scaffold]

I'm not sure if I'm ready to see how game breaking the speedruns are already lmao

[honest vortex]

Well idk. Both Dark Ages and 2016 are Doomy in different ways.

Idk which one is more Doomy

[cyan drift]

Just got the game and got to the second mission

[pliant agate]

Yeah, it does get kinda ludicrous lol

[rugged hill]

frencubus now

[merry sapphire]

you should cyberbully him

[cyan drift]

2016 prob

[shut bloom]

Playing the dark ages first time and going to the cosmic realm high af, tripped me tf out

[rugged hill]

the cosmic realm was sick

[slim crypt]

i put a video on the video channel of a hellknight with no arms lmao

[honest vortex]

I do think the story and stuff is more Doomy in 2016 though actually.

Dark Ages story and characters don't feel like DOOM

[cyan drift]

I perfer doom 2016 and dark ages can’t wait for dark ages multiplayer and more cutomization

[merry sapphire]

send the channel

[pliant agate]

I definitely wanna see speed runs but I gotta beat the game first

[honest vortex]

Because 2016 has a more "simple" story

[slim crypt]

#videos

[frosty scaffold]

Lol, I literally just beat it 5 minutes ago
(Which is why I'm here now)

[merry sapphire]

oh shiddd i Thought you Meant a Youtube Channel 😂

[slim crypt]

no mf are you high too? 💀

[cyan drift]

Oh i like it cause the art more fleshy realistic art style and the lil slower combat its like dark ages but no shield

[pliant agate]

I sadly need to sleep soon. I’d pull an all nighter with this game but I have IRL stuff to do

[honest vortex]

2016 is epic indeed

[shut bloom]

Idk why people say they need to bring back dash back like they don’t have a shield that can literally zip you across the whole mf map💀

[cyan drift]

Not much a fan of eternal customization cool but too arcadey

[frosty scaffold]

Ah, yeah it's really good, what chapter are you on right now?

[zealous hamlet]

It's so much better than dash spamming all over

[shut bloom]

This game is absolutely my favorite

[zealous hamlet]

Only sucks when you can't find something to shield slam to

[pliant agate]

Just finished the Barracks. Not that far, I know, but there’ll be more play sessions

[oblique glen]

I much prefer 2016's story over Eternal's and DA.

No outside voices telling us to do stuff. Just Doomguy getting up out of a coffin, messing shit up for reasons known only to himself.

[shut bloom]

I’m glad all doom games are different from each other

[zealous hamlet]

This game is actually a Captain America simulator

[shut bloom]

Fax, just more R rated

[honest vortex]

Eternal felt and looked like a plastic sterile toy tbh.

And the lighting is very flat and superimposed compared to 2016 and Dark Ages .

The guns all looked and sounded weak and plastic toy-like compared to 2016 and Dark Ages as well IMO

[shut bloom]

For Rip and Tear

[short berry]

what is with the crashing omg

[cyan drift]

Yea hella arcadey they focused on gameplay more the graphics on everything but pc are horrible ps4 the worst xbox bader ps5 better lighting but bad pc hella pretty

[tranquil zodiac]

battle knights are so strong bruh, you'd think they'd die fast after losing the armor

[cyan drift]

Update your drivers or might just be your game verify files same happen to moist crikical

[honest vortex]

2016 story was surprisingly interesting and well written and mysterious without being too overdone or convoluted.

It complimented the type of game 2016 was perfectly and just added to the aura of the game immensely without being the main focus of the game and without distracting from the gameplay.

It was a great symbolic showcase of show but don't tell.

Meanwhile Eternal and TDA relies on goofy exposition.

Also VEGA and Samuel Hayden were super badass in that game

[frosty scaffold]

Are y'all crashing on PC lol?
The only time consoles are better

[cyan drift]

Could be the new drivers cause im playing on old drivers havnt crashed once

[mellow yew]

Til when would be the twitch drop skin be available because it’s not showing up in my open drop campaign tab lol

[oblique glen]

0 crashes on pc here.

[frosty scaffold]

Yeah, I played on console perfectly fine, not one crash, stutter, or anything

[cyan drift]

Its just the mew drivers if u press play and dont upd those drivers you dont crash

[honest vortex]

I haven't had a crash on my Xbox yet for DOOM The Dark Ages

[oblique glen]

Nope running the new drivers, no issues.

[fleet geode]

Is there an easy way to get redline (accelerator mastery)
1000 times to cause overload or heat blast feels excessive

[cyan drift]

Dam

[shut bloom]

The game did crash when I first played, kinda wack. After that I didn’t find no problem

[warped wing]

Okay, I am going to say my biggest issue with this game is no fast travel at the end of the level like eternal. Having to restart each level to be a completionist is total ass; we had this in Doom Eternal, why would you remove it?

[shut bloom]

Just bad drivers or what not tho they made drivers for that game on that launch, still wack

[oblique glen]

The lack of fast travel is pretty brutal. Especially with how long some of the levels are

[frosty scaffold]

I 100 percented eternal(no dlc sadly) but I gotta say I am not looking forward to trying to do that here, the maps are so huge and all that 😭

[warped wing]

Also I am playing on nightmare for my first playthrough, and I think that though the game is fun you get like no health pickups ever from combat

Fodder demons are actually useless compared to eternal because you can't glory kill them

You need special upgrades to even get armor off enemies

[wind dew]

Do you still get the gold skins if you beat Ultra Nightmare but have messed with the settings? I like to have the game speed up.

[warped wing]

Idk feels weirdly stingy with pickups and regen

[raven vigil]

Bro dark ages is so fun guys

[hoary heron]

Man, I wouldn't mind if TDA had a camera mode like Cyberpunk 2077 so I could take some nice screenshots.

[raven vigil]

I’m already half way through

[oblique glen]

Wouldn't be surprised if we got it at some point. I think camera mode in eternal was added later.

[candid jay]

is chapter 7 bugged i can't seem to find the last secret

[warped wing]

Dark Ages is fun but it does have definite issues like lack of fast travel and again that weird sort of balancing where there's no pickups at all

like did I miss something in the tutorials

or do you just not get health unless you're on death's door or glory killing a bigger enemy

[raven vigil]

I never had to use fast travel in eternal

[tranquil zodiac]

meleeing drops ammo

[warped wing]

Health though

[tranquil zodiac]

glory killing drops health

[warped wing]

Yeah you can't glory kill fodder demons in this game

[tranquil zodiac]

also i think hitting a full combo does too

[warped wing]

Which is weird

Full combo with a specific melee weapon or just in general?

[tranquil zodiac]

yeah, they mixed up the formula. Now you need to go after big demons to get health

[simple lintel]

Hey is anyone not able to access the digital artbook and soundtrack?

[hoary heron]

You can just lower the difficulty using the various options to make enemies die faster and do less damage and set the game speed to 150%. It should be enough to get you to where you need to go.

[simple lintel]

I got the collectors edition and i cant access it

[tranquil zodiac]

any weapon does it i believe, but im not 100% sure if it drops health.

[candid jay]

i see it on my steam library but its like 16gb 😭

[warped wing]

I'm gonna keep playing on base nightmare, thanks.

Also, the fodder demons hit really damn hard in nightmare lol; Soldiers in particular can do like 70 damage

[onyx fjord]

Is it possible to make enemies die faster but also do immense damage for a sort of Dante Must Die style difficulty

[warped wing]

increase slayer damage and enemy damage i guess lol

[hoary heron]

I mean after finishing a run.

[warped wing]

Ah! Good point

Still weird that they undid a qol change from eternal for seemingly no reason

[simple lintel]

Where I just see dark ages

[tranquil zodiac]

yeah always kill them when you can. Fodder is now a priority target

[long sparrow]

Fast travel? The slayer moves at march 20 when sprinting

[candid jay]

just search up doom the dark age in ur library, make sure nothing is filtered out, it should be in tools section in the library

[warped wing]

Yes, but you get locked out of certain areas if you progress too much and have to restart the level lol

There are points where you just cannot go back to pick something up

[simple lintel]

Oh i see it thanks

[hoary heron]

Try playing on enemy damage 500%, fodder becomes such a pain in the ass haha.

[candid jay]

np

[warped wing]

Seriously it feels like we are at our most fragile because they want us to rely on the shield

[short berry]

yo fsr frame gen is garbage

[spark furnace]

The game tells you when you cant go back

[warped wing]

Yeah, why is that something they changed though

Like why did we not just keep it like Eternal where you can travel back at any point when you hit the end

[simple lintel]

I missed the warping ability to pick up any missing collectibles

[warped wing]

Feels like a useless and arbitrary change

[short berry]

gatekeeping dlss frame gen behind 40 and 50 series is actually criminal

[long sparrow]

Just like 2016, also the icons on the map tell you if you are getting locked out form an area or finishing the mission entirely

[spark furnace]

What difficulty are yall playing on

[warped wing]

I know you get locked out after going too far; my question is why is it designed that way

[warped wing]

Nightmare, no modifications.

[short berry]

20 and 30 series can run ray tracing yet get no boost from dlss? the thing that was made specificially to boost fps for ray tracing?

[long sparrow]

To encourage exploration or replayability of the level? Idk. 2016 did it and I didn't have much of an issue because right after you get the collectable you can just leave the mission and that's it.

[candid jay]

bro where the hell is the last secret in siege part 2 it doesn't show on the map 😭 8/9

[long sparrow]

I got the mission at 100%. It's the one with || the dragon? ||

[hoary heron]

Custom Nightmare: Maxed projectile speed, small parry window, damage to player 500%, low resources, 50% daze duration.

[candid jay]

chapter 7, i dont think it has any, i'm stuck on 99% cus i found everything so this one secret is not marked anywhere, it doesn't even tell me what it is i'm missing

i suspect its life sigil even tho i already found everything in the prev run on the same mission ig it doesn't count when ur life sigil is full then?

and both is alr checked on my map so idk

[long sparrow]

Have you found all the life sigils? Sometimes they are locked behind secret areas that also counts so it's worth visiting the place even if you have 3/3

[candid jay]

funny enuf life sigil doesnt show on the map legend so ig maybe its that even tho its alr checked, ill try to visit it again

[short berry]

well yeah, but the previous generations could totally support dlss

and i gotta say fsr honestly makes the game worse so its not worth

[candid jay]

oof i think i know why, i restarted the run now i noticed one of the previously ''checked'' life sigil is now a question mark so it wasn't counting it as discovered even tho i alr previously walked past it

[long sparrow]

I can guarantee you it isn't bugged, I got mine here at 100% with all secrets revealed. I would send caps but no image perms

[long sparrow]

Could be that one yeah

[candid jay]

nah im pretty sure its a visual bug on the map ig

@long sparrow have u 100% all the missions? i might need ur help later haha im trying to get all of it

[vagrant gale]

if i forget a challenge and go back to complete it, do i need to finish the whole mission?

it's %99 completed im gonna lose my mind

[long sparrow]

Not all of them, I am half way through the game but every mission I have played I have it at 100%

[candid jay]

thats the thing, its harder on utube cus games only recent launch and some people dont bother putting timestamp im not wasting 30 extra minutes on a mission i already completed just watching thru each part so ik what i missed

[candid jay]

i finished the game with most of my missions on 90% and some on 100

took my time on the campaign and i still missed some because its just that hard to find some spots 😭

[fleet geode]

If anyone figures this out lemme know
Otherwise … I’ll just go for it slowly, and painfully
Lol

[candid jay]

one of the chapters on the second half took me 2 hours trying to find one of the secret collectibles in a single pit hiding on the map that does NOT show up the map is misleading sometimes they need to fix/change that

[oblique glen]

I somehow missed both wraith crystals on ||the spire of nerathul||. No idea how I managed to do that.

[long sparrow]

Some of them are really well hidden for sure. I take a lot of time going through all the places, I can easily be 30-40 minutes per mission and I don't use guides

[candid jay]

the crystals should show up on the map so sometimes just be vary of goin past no return areas, for me im missing the ones that does not show up on the map or legend

[candid jay]

same

oh yeah the dog statues are also the most pain int he ass one LMAO

[viral rover]

It’s crazy how people say this game is slow, it’s almost more hectic than eternal

[vagrant gale]

no way this is faster than eternal lol

[candid jay]

ye its not slow at all, or they can up game speed, its abt the same to me after having finished both games, just diff weapon mechanic overall might make it feel ''slower'' for sum people? idk

[viral rover]

It can be if you use the speed modifier

[long sparrow]

Crank the speed sliders to max for the full crack experience

[viral rover]

You can move faster than eternal slayer with max speed enabled

[vagrant gale]

well yeah if you make the eternal faster with cheat engine it gets faster too

[tranquil moss]

the UN fans are gonna like 500% damage taken and 50% damage dealt

[viral rover]

Not using cheat engine, just using the gameplay settings

[long sparrow]

💯

[vagrant gale]

you and me both know that the speed modifier was not the intentional gameplay

[viral rover]

You can speed the movement and enemy movement up to 200%

[viral rover]

Then why’s it there lol

[tranquil zodiac]

the dark ages dash is way faster than anything you can do in eternal, even meathook slings

[slim crypt]

what???

[long sparrow]

Doesn't matter much, it's a tool that can be used so it's part of the game

[shadow fable]

This game gets pretty crazy at 150% speed

[slim crypt]

puts something in game intentionally in game and trailers

“it’s not intentional”

[vagrant gale]

well yeah if you use it it is faster than eternal but the core gameplay is not faster than eternal

[viral rover]

With certain.. strategies you can become monkey slayer on roids in TDA. Just minus the monkey bars

[long sparrow]

You can make this game the sweatiest experience ever if you crank up the modifiers and speed

[buoyant aurora]

man i hate the new revenent

[slim crypt]

it’s not really meant to be but having played and nearly done with it it’s not that slow compared to eternal

[vagrant gale]

i mean like difficulties too almost every game has different difficulties but they also have a difficulty devs set for the game to be played at, the other difficulties are for people who want harder or easier gameplay

[viral rover]

Nobody seems to know about glory kill momentum yet. You can FLY backwards if you hit it correctly

[tranquil zodiac]

imo the game is as fast as eternal

[shadow fable]

IMO, Eternal required a lot faster and precise aiming. Dark Ages you move faster, but aiming is considerably calmer.

[long sparrow]

I actually did that by accident and I thought I got hit by something lol

[slim crypt]

i guess with weak points yeah sure

[viral rover]

It’s why I prefer TDA to eternal. Played about 900 hours on eternal and it’s sandbox was very limited to resource management

[vagrant gale]

yeah im not saying it is slow. im saying it is not as fast as eternal. it might be fast because the character jumps across the map but in eternal you yourself had to be fast too

[viral rover]

Idk you gotta be pretty damn fast with parry windows cranked down

[slim crypt]

but you can be fast in tda they just toned down the jumping a lot

[vagrant gale]

still not what im saying

[slim crypt]

still too easy imo

[mossy geyser]

Is dark ages worth it?

[slim crypt]

because ur talking about things that having to do with what im saying

[zealous hamlet]

Dude seems to think the game's speed slider doesn't exist?

[viral rover]

Too easy? This game beat me harder than eternal did by a mile on nightmare for both

[long sparrow]

Yes

[slim crypt]

it’s not intentional apparently

[oblique glen]

Only you will be able to answer that.

[vagrant gale]

lmao okay no need to argue with each other. agree to disagree

[zealous hamlet]

Like, they made it something you can choose. My gf gets motion sick, and needs to play the game at 80%, that's totally fine, and great.

[mossy geyser]

Is it modeled by living creatures?

[viral rover]

TDA can be absolutely meth mode if you want it to be.

[long sparrow]

They hit the sweet spot there

[zealous hamlet]

Giving players sliders for any options make a game infinitely replayable. Well, maybe not infinitely.

[long sparrow]

You can do some truly unique playthroughs and insane challenges

[viral rover]

The vagary can kill you from full HP and armor with its AOE attack in less than 2 seconds on pandemonium

[tranquil zodiac]

i was trying to use the ball and chain gun because yall said it was good with the instant charge upgrade but it sucks ass compared to my goat the impaler

[slim crypt]

can’t wait to attempt ultra nightmare

[long sparrow]

They honored the diff name huh?

[viral rover]

Actually insane. I tried when I beat the game. I’m not prepared

[slim crypt]

and i’m gonna have to speedrun later

[viral rover]

You have to know the enemies front and back to be able to do UN/pandemonium

[oblique glen]

ball and chain gun is an absolute killer for armored enemies. The impaler is not even in the same category of use.

[viral rover]

It’s fun seeing the og design for imps be given a new light with imp stalkers

[slim crypt]

part of my routine i guess

[long sparrow]

That's fair yeah, my sister had the same issues as well, had to lower the diff and she cleared the main game and part 1 on Ultra-nightmare.

[hoary heron]

I really like how expansive the maps are, and how you can tackle objectives in any order you see fit. Feels sort of like LotR: Shadow of War in a way. Maybe a future DLC could add one huge Shadow of War like map that's crammed with objectives both land and sky that takes place on Hell.

[viral rover]

Imagine a nemesis style leader system

Would be beyond peak for a horde mode, to keep it fresh

Siege pt 1 had better become a horde map

[wild rose]

Does the nightmare suit have a red or blue visor?

[slim crypt]

speaking of siege 1 there’s like a 15 second skip already found lmao

[hoary heron]

Take down a demon fortified fort and install your own human commanders.

[viral rover]

The day they give us a level editor it’s OVER. TDA is becoming the new WAD machine

[hoary heron]

I wouldn't mind a level editor.

[candid jay]

@long sparrow apparently the thing that showed up as a question mark was actually just the purple key so now im clueless i checked both life sigil its both taken from my prev run already i assume since theyre not there anymore and checked on the map so idk what this last secret is 😭

[inland stratus]

I want a proper horde mode for TDA so badly bros. I understand why they took a different approach with Eternal but I think it could be done

[long sparrow]

ID went bananas with part 2 so it's not a surprise it was too much for you. I died like 50+ times with it.

[viral rover]

Hugo wasn’t lying when he said he wanted enemies to be more oppressive

[long sparrow]

You have all the gold as well?

[shell blaze]

Hey can someone help me with something in doom dark ages
The part where you are introduced to the new shield, im softlock
I can't pass the tutorial, i kill the enemys with the shield and it doesen't count

[viral rover]

This is peak doom art direction though. These designs can go into the future damn near untouched

[candid jay]

all the gold, ruby, and essense,collectibles, its all there but the secret is 8/9

[long sparrow]

💯

[long sparrow]

Man that sucks. Have you tried to look for guides on YT? Idk if they have uploaded them already but you could watch one to search for every single secret.

[candid jay]

itd be nice if they timestamped their vids except they dont so its gonna be painstakingly slow watching all that just to get the last 1%, ig i can just wait til eventually someone has better guide vids

[tranquil zodiac]

dude revenants are so hard

[oblique glen]

Forget videos, time to go back to ASCII game guides. Quicker to search without 10mins of intro fluff, lol.

[long sparrow]

Sure, sorry I can't be much of help, my map is 100% clear so I have no way of knowing which secret zone you are missing

[candid jay]

seeing this 99% is killing me man the freakin game isnt telling me what im missing cus everything is marked check and ik i explored everywhere on the map 😭

[rugged hill]

i just went back to eternal immediately after beating TDA and eternal feels way slower

[long sparrow]

they can try

[inland stratus]

Has anyone else noticed that the mixing/sfx are janky sometimes? Like during some glory kills the shield saw will be barely audible, and just doesn’t make any noise when it’s being recalled. A couple things like that

[next oar]

replica helmet just came in

its so good

[buoyant aurora]

revs are 10x worse in this game

[rugged hill]

revs are nuts in this

i hate acolytes so much

[shrewd mountain]

I love the revs, actually a better threat

[north leaf]

do you have super shotgun yet? they die in a single shot + shield bash after you pin them with the shield

[buoyant aurora]

im fine when its just them but when im trying to fight something else i just got blue skulls fliying towards me

[rugged hill]

the whole thing about "Theres no point in weapon switching" feels sorta braindead. I was switching all the time.

[north leaf]

wait till you get to fight the spider tank with million fodder around, you gonna wish you were fighting a revenant

[shrewd mountain]

They just spammed SSG

[candid jay]

i mean it depends on u, at minimum u switch 2-3 but theyre prob saying u don't needf over half the weapons just to play the game

[slim crypt]

revs were a joke in eternal much better here

[shrewd mountain]

But switching mid fight is a bit dangerous so you gotta be careful

[buoyant aurora]

what chap is that i think im on 10-11

[rugged hill]

yeah theyre useless in eternal

[shrewd mountain]

Also btw was the atlan factory scrapped? There was so much focus on that in trailers and then it never showed up

[rugged hill]

also, I feel like this game took alot of inspiration from doom 64

[north leaf]

the spider tank is just the one you have to parry, i think ch8 you have to fight some hell knights and one spider tank and fodder

[shrewd mountain]

Or was it part of a map and I didn't realize it

Literally the first time we've seen the skullcrusher we've seen the atlan factory and it's completely missing

[rugged hill]

i didnt like ancient gods

nuclear take but it was too uhh
try hard to me

[shrewd mountain]

I mean, yea- chronologically it's after D64

[dark thunder]

Ancient gods part 2 was my favorite cause of hammer

[rugged hill]

ive heard that they retconned parts of TAG. so like... what was it?

[buoyant aurora]

whats generally the most annoying enemy in this game

[shrewd mountain]

There's a retcon to tag?

[plain iron]

Retconned what 💀

[slim crypt]

i love misinformation

[shrewd mountain]

Early game chaingunners

[dark thunder]

Hope we get to redo the dark lord boss fight at some point in the future

[rugged hill]

i thought it was the acolyte

[shrewd mountain]

Prolly not, wouldn't make sense

[dark thunder]

Can’t u just counter the CHAINGUNNERS with a shield idk why that’s in caps

[rugged hill]

I thought it was the ending

[buoyant aurora]

fr and i forgot their name the spider brain dudes that just shoot at u from a far and hit every shot while you're trying to fight something else

[plain iron]

Is it the whole "the maykrs blessed the slayer" dawg they like taking credit for a shit ton of things

[buoyant aurora]

what chap do those get introduced

[rugged hill]

late game. like 16 or some shit

[dark thunder]

Fat maykr died too much argent

[shrewd mountain]

Early game chaingunners and nightmare imps

[buoyant aurora]

oh alr

[shrewd mountain]

Whoops replied to the wrong guy

[long sparrow]

Either they rage quit or they put it on easy lol

[rugged hill]

im sure hes proud. I know John Romero is not involved at all with it but is happy to see it revived and doing well.

[oblique glen]

Gotta go with Cyberdemons before you get ||Rocket Launcher heals||

[viral rover]

“I wanted the arachnotrons to be more oppressive” Hugo

[shrewd mountain]

Acolytes were the only new enemy i didn't recognize because I was obsessed with looking at the gameplay and trailers

[shadow fable]

Eternal requires a LOT more and faster "micro" than Dark Ages at higher difficulties. Quick switching weapons, managing flame belching with the chainsaw, all on top of precise aiming and aerial movement. So many split-second key presses and struggling to survive.

With Dark Ages you basically just need to time your parries, which they give you a nice little pause after, and then pull the trigger on whatever gun you're using at the time, and shield dash/melee around once in a while.

[shrewd mountain]

I replied to the wrong guy

[buoyant aurora]

true i can usually easily take care of those as long as its just 1v1 if im being shot at like 15 soldiers then nah

[viral rover]

It’s weird because I beat NM eternal with maybe 5 deaths, but I’m well over 100 on NM TDA

[shrewd mountain]

Honestly TDA fits perfectly in the trilogy, it's the perfect blend between modern and classic doom, if you played the games chronologically I think it would build up from TDA to Eternal pretty well

[rugged hill]

Ive always felt like dooms greatest strengths lie in its simplicity. as much as I love doom eternal, It could get annoying getting bounced around in a room full of archviles. (Taras Nabad master level.)

[viral rover]

FUCK THAT LEVEL YO

[fast bluff]

this game feels way easier than eternal

[candid jay]

omg @long sparrow the secret was an area i alr previously explored with a gold chest i don't know why it didn't proc the last time 😭 even tho its already checked on the map

[tranquil zodiac]

positioning matters way more in TDA than eternal

[viral rover]

Wait till m11

[rugged hill]

Fuck. That level.

[shrewd mountain]

Eternal wasn't that hard for me, 2016 was a bit harder imo

[shadow fable]

I'm almost the opposite. I had far more deaths on NM in Eternal, granted I started on Nightmare and most of those were early on as I was learning and adapting. I breezes through NM on TDA

[buoyant aurora]

im kinda stuck on this on part in hell where the leader is a cyber demon

[viral rover]

M11 put hair on my chest instantly and left me feeling beaten and broken

[rugged hill]

honestly, my cheese with eternal is just mapping all resource management buttons to the mouse

[north leaf]

i'm only 9/22 into the game but some arenas are giving me more trouble than anything in eternal on nightmare. im loving it but i wonder if this is by design or if i'm just ass at the game

[rigid breach]

ONG IT WAS MY GOAT SAMUR

[shrewd mountain]

Eternal, if you consistently moved around the arena, you could avoid like 80% of attacks, TDA is far less forgiving and requires constant situational awareness

[viral rover]

TDA has the issue of fodder being able to blow your health bar down significantly with ranged attacks

[candid jay]

haha youre in for a ride it gets worse, some of the arenas is just decked full and u cant do anything abt it and they will drain ur shield, parrying and positioning/using environmental los blockers is ur friend

[shadow fable]

I'd say a different kind of positioning. Getting caught out of position in TDA means I need to find a squishy to dash to, getting caught out of position in Eternal without a dash charge usually means I'm dead

[rugged hill]

I feel like TDA strikes a perfect balance between 2016 and eternal

[oblique glen]

This may be an obvious tip, but use the shield stun more. Makes fights go from ridiculous to manageable

[viral rover]

TDA strikes a perfect balance of classic and new

[candid jay]

i mean the ui color reminds me of 2016, but weapon choices are eternal

[shrewd mountain]

Gameplay styles are completely different so how is it a perfect blend?

[buoyant aurora]

i love the shield its so fun parrying

[sand ravine]

chat am i insane for saying this game is ALMOST good but could use some major tweaks

[viral rover]

It’s the first of the 3 Nu doom games that feels like… doom and not quake

[slim crypt]

tda requires a f u c k ton of peripheral vision and awareness

[shrewd mountain]

What are your issues with it

[tranquil zodiac]

i beat tag1 on nightmare deathless on my second playthrough of it and ive been dying a lot more now in the abyssal forest i think is the name in TDA NM

[viral rover]

Abyssal forest is nothing bro 💀

[slim crypt]

i would want them to add a horde mode tbh

[hoary heron]

Does anyone else sometimes get glitches in their shield where you can't raise it to block a target?

[rugged hill]

You have to manage the battlefield with the tools at your disposal like in eternal but the game feels and plays alot like 2016

[sand ravine]

shit like weapon swaps taking a full 3 seconds after you shoot as well as removing your ability to use your shield makes the game feel really clunky

[mellow yew]

Is the twitch drop still available because I can’t see it in the drop campaign

[north leaf]

yeah i noticed a pattern where i get blown up to the 5 hp and then its so hard to recover since you dont have icre grenade or flame belch, but enemies can still out-range you

@candid jay

haha youre in for a ride it gets worse, some of the arenas is just decked full

yea i noticed there are some arenas that just spike in difficulty like crazy

@oblique glen

This may be an obvious tip, but use the shield stun more.

yeah i've been doing that, i think i'm getting better, i've noticed doing the shield bash into ssg wrecks almost anything

[slim crypt]

i’ll see you at chapter 15 and above lmao

[shrewd mountain]

The game isn't prioritizing weapon swapping

[light falcon]

can i play dark arges on hdd

[rugged hill]

no

[shrewd mountain]

Don't swap weapons every 5 seconds

[slim crypt]

if it helps there’s apparently weapons swapping tech found

[light falcon]

y

[slim crypt]

if it helps there’s apparently weapons swapping tech found

[tranquil zodiac]

yeah im looking forward to it. Granted, i was dying a lot because i was trying weapons other than the impaler. I switched to impaler and beat the arena i was stuck in first try.

[shrewd mountain]

Use what you need for the encounter and switch if you desperately need to

[rugged hill]

cuz i said so

[candid jay]

in one of the last few chapters one of the arena i can guarantee is actually hard it took me a few more deaths than the actual boss fights

[shrewd mountain]

Focus on parrying and less on quickswapping

[light falcon]

im still gonna try

[viral rover]

Can you even imagine the forsaken plains master level bro 💀 💀

[mellow yew]

Is the twitch drop for the Guardian Skin still available because I can’t see it in the drop campaign

I guess it’s not available anymore lmao

[sand ravine]

hard to do so when enemy design follows suit with doom eternal and just die much much easier to certain guns

[shadow fable]

It's interesting how different people accel at different games/gameplay styles

[rugged hill]

I never got frustrated until the taras nabad master level. That fucking room made me never want to play the master level again.

[sand ravine]

oh heat

[rugged hill]

I still havent beaten that level.

[shrewd mountain]

Then don't swap every milisecond, swap when you need to dispatch a certain group of enemies

[viral rover]

The dlc comes out: 500 abbadon hunters

[slim crypt]

i’ll die irl lmao

[sand ravine]

thats what im doing, swapping after you shoot a gun still takes multiple seconds which is way too long

[rugged hill]

Agadon hunter was underwhelming tbh

[shrewd mountain]

Like if you see a group of fodder, use crowd control, if you see an aggadon, use a high damage weapon and focus on parrying

[merry sapphire]

why is the hdr implementation so ass when eternal's hdr implementation was so good

[slim crypt]

they are my fav enemy to fight what?? they are so good

[candid jay]

weapon swapping in here isnt as prominent as in eternal, sometimes its rather inefficient lmao, just focus on using ur shield/parry and melee better

[north leaf]

i was messing around with random "non-good" weapons and i actually made myself cranky from getting wrecked, on the dark forest map with the long range arenas lmao

[sand ravine]

honestly how do you even use the melee properly

[rugged hill]

I was expecting another marauder and I thought the komodo was more in line with that

[shrewd mountain]

That's how it was in classic doom, and classic doom had the same design principle as "use this weapon as it'll be more effective for certain enemies

[buoyant aurora]

i hate that dude idk how to rlly beat him tbh i just ran around and parryed once and hit him with super shorty and repeated for 20 minutes till he was dead

[sand ravine]

i try to use melee combos but it just like kills me

[shrewd mountain]

Use melee for ammo, and in between parrying,

[candid jay]

combo is good and dont waste it on the wrong crowd, pickup drops, etc

[slim crypt]

i guess so but you tend to see the hunter a lot more

[shrewd mountain]

Parrying is far more the better option, parry and use your weapon, and when your low on your weapon, use meelee

[candid jay]

has to do with timing, dont melee when theyre abt to attack u they will end up cancelling ur animation/pushing u back

[rugged hill]

I wish the archvile was in this

[slim crypt]

i can smell the dlc

[viral rover]

Sure, until it’s standing between a leader, a cyber demon, another aggadon with 2 arachatrons in the back and 5 stalker imps waiting to touch you when you stop looking at them

[rugged hill]

he is missed

[sand ravine]

are most enemies not able to just like punch you out anyways even after like a parry or something

[shrewd mountain]

Parry attacks, follow up with your gun, if you need ammo, use melee strikes until you reach glory kill state

[rugged hill]

Fuck. I cant believe I miss the archvile.

[oblique glen]

My favorite demon across all the modern dooms.

[merry sapphire]

did anyone manage to get hdr to look good in this game

[rugged hill]

my favorite demon in all of doom.

[merry sapphire]

it Looks so Ass man i cant figure it out

[north leaf]

isn't there an enemy type that constantly spawns reinforcements? but yeah flamey guy cool

[candid jay]

nope, they have a short cooldown and sometimes they get staggered so

[rugged hill]

flameboi

[shrewd mountain]

Archvile and pain elemental would fit this games style 100%

[viral rover]

The ones with the banner yes

[slim crypt]

trying to get hdr to look good is like trying to bash ur head against a steel fence dawg

[sand ravine]

how do you stagger in this game

eternal had frags my beloved but idk how to stagger here

[slim crypt]

chainshot is realible

[viral rover]

Parry

[rugged hill]

The bruiser wouldve been a cool out of pocket pick for the enemy line up

[shrewd mountain]

Chainsaw throw

[slim crypt]

tons of options tbh

[sand ravine]

what about enemies that arent susceptible to chainsaw throw

[candid jay]

i dont mean glory kill stagger, just the dazed effect u see on their head

[shrewd mountain]

Best way to stun and stagger for a short period

[shrewd mountain]

Weapons that stun, or use the electric gauntlet

Plasma rifles, explosives

[north leaf]

the first shield upgrade makes your parry strong falter enemies in a big radius, its incredibly useful you can basically aggress against groups you would have to run from in eternal

[rugged hill]

the marauder?

i love the marauder

[slim crypt]

marauders are very fun still

[shrewd mountain]

Listen to the upgrade paths, utilize them in practice, follow up with parrying, melee strikes, shield throw

[arctic pagoda]

Flame on

[rugged hill]

how many of you guys were day 1 purchasers of doom 2016?

[cedar yarrow]

Guys can popeye whoop doomsslayers shi?

[shrewd mountain]

I haven't gotten into doom until around 2022

[tranquil moss]

enforcers are annoying as fuck sometimes

[shrewd mountain]

I got into doom because of fortnite, I'm not gonna lie ☠️

[viral rover]

Komodo champion got me pretty good

[arctic pagoda]

Hint for parrying, turn off Adaptive triggers

[slim crypt]

i was like 14 aswell lmao

[rugged hill]

I preordered the collectors edition of doom 2016 and went to a midnight launch at gamestop for it

I was so worried it was gonna be bad.

[shrewd mountain]

In 2016 I would've been 11

[cedar yarrow]

Ive heard of it but never played it i just didnt had a consol amd over all was never intrested in the game

[slim crypt]

actually let me do the maths

[tranquil zodiac]

ok fought the first agaddon hunter. This guy is overhyped

[rugged hill]

I grew up with doom. Its the first video game I ever played lol

[north leaf]

the first time i fought that i was tired af and my parry timing set to the lowest possible he ravaged my ass like 10 times lol

[shrewd mountain]

I was 11, I knew of doom but never touched it cause I was afraid of demons

[slim crypt]

nvm my maths is dogshit i was 10

[rugged hill]

I used to hang out with my uncle and load it up on DOS.

[arctic pagoda]

Oof

[shrewd mountain]

I got into doom because of the new fortnite season

[tranquil moss]

i just found out theres golden weapons in TDA 🗣️

[rugged hill]

I remember when doom 3 came out and being too scared to play it lmfaooooo

[candid jay]

also i wished there was some sorta effect for the launcher cannibalism so i can tell when its gone or still up, did they forget to add it or smth

[shrewd mountain]

I'm just glad we don't gotta do that fucking gore nest master level for the gold combat shotgun

[cedar yarrow]

Man dont trip we all be through some horror game we owned but never played like axample black ops zombies never a day in my life touched it without big bro

[slim crypt]

i loved that level tbh

[tranquil moss]

yeah instead its hit 150 shots with all pellets

[rugged hill]

so based. The old ones are here.

[shrewd mountain]

I beat UN on eternal, did the master level for the gold shotgun, and beat UN on tag 1 and 2

[rugged hill]

I miss duke nukem

[shrewd mountain]

And i beat 2016 UN last month, nothing else so far

[slim crypt]

i miss shadow warrior

[rugged hill]

shadow warrior is still around bruh

[slim crypt]

i want more plus it could be way better

[rugged hill]

it just had a 3rd game like, not too long ago

[sand ravine]

how do you kill arachnotrons in this game

[shrewd mountain]

Also what happened to the atlan factory level, it was teased so much in trailers and then never appeared at all in the campaign

[slim crypt]

it should be in doom position rn

[rugged hill]

shoot at it until it dies.

[oblique glen]

The open field levels give me big Serious Sam vibes.

[candid jay]

Kill it faster than it can kill you 🔥

[shrewd mountain]

Shoot em

[sand ravine]

okay well yeah but they can do that too

[north leaf]

are you finding the difficulty harder than eternal? i beat tag1 on UNM and i feel i struggled more than with eternal when i first played, but cant remember (difficult of TDA vs Eternal wise)

[slim crypt]

btw they are so easy to kill maybe a bit too easy

[sand ravine]

they kill me faster than i can kill them

[tranquil moss]

one point blank SSG blast will instantly kill them

[shrewd mountain]

In TDA or 2016?

[slim crypt]

ssg literally mogs them

[rugged hill]

I think doom just has the name brand. I mean, You wanna know why john romero had an ego? Because he made the video game equivalent of Thriller.

[sand ravine]

i cant get point blank!!! it is on an elevated surface!!!!

[shrewd mountain]

Ssg or chainshot fuck them

[tranquil moss]

get within line of sight of the shield charge and then charge them from there

[north leaf]

TDA vs Eternal, cause i feel TDA is harder than launch eternal

[shrewd mountain]

The combat for TDA clicked instantly for me, eternal took a bit for me to get into it

[slim crypt]

shield bash into them

then ssg

[shrewd mountain]

Honesty I hated how cartoony eternal felt when i first touched it

I finished the campaign after being bored of 2016 and then I got hooked

I have roughly 600 ish hours in eternal (not counting console)

And 400 ish on 2016, again not counting console

[tranquil moss]

the plasma rifle in tda (accelerator) is lowkey good

[rugged hill]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxp9GRHTD5CDZtB76XWq9iyvpZgVNO3BZT?si=rGSmRiKjY3v9eWiG

[full cave]

I have 3 levels left... think I'm gonna finish the game tomorrow

[shrewd mountain]

All guns are good, just nobody knows how to use them yet

[slim crypt]

cycler is even crazier

[full cave]

I kinda prefer the cycler over the accelerator

[slim crypt]

plasma guns absolutely fuck in this game

[north leaf]

combat shotgun feels atrocious to me, especially with the ammo returns being so low

[shrewd mountain]

My favorite upgrade path so far is the combat shotgun, flame instant fodder and explode on death is so dam satisfying

[slim crypt]

you got 3 round burst on them tho?

[north leaf]

armor* not ammo

[north leaf]

yeah my bad

e: also i tired the 3 round burst, doesnt seem its 3x full dmg shots

[shrewd mountain]

And second is the plasma gun, accuracy and heat Blast is so fun

I just love exploding fodder into shards of armor

[slim crypt]

shredder is a good weapon put just arnt combining the shield with it

[slim crypt]

what about the last upgrade on combat shotgun makes it crazier

[shrewd mountain]

Yea don't go up against a cosmic baron with the shredder or skullcrusher

[tranquil moss]

i haven't taken much time on the cycler mainly because i was mastering the accelerator

[shrewd mountain]

But they are better crowd control weapons

[slim crypt]

these might be my fav guns in a doom game

[shrewd mountain]

Super fun with heat blast

[tranquil moss]

i was using mega cell because you have to hit a demon 1000 times with overload active

[shrewd mountain]

The best weapon to parry with is 100% the chainshot

Especially after the instant charge upgrade

[slim crypt]

chainshot and impaler combo just deletes the game lmao

[tranquil zodiac]

impaler >>>

[north leaf]

im missing the last upgrade, but even with 2/3 upgrades on it feels inferior to ssg, especially now that ammo is not an issue unlike in eternal. no reason to use it for fodder control because theres better alternatives like skullcrusher or shield bash or shield throw

[shrewd mountain]

The only gun i haven't found use yet is the skullcrusher variant, but i haven't played with it enough or upgraded

[tranquil moss]

also if you're on the dragon sections if you have a repeater on your mouse you can use that instead of holding down the fire button, it gives unintended higher firerates in some cases like empowered

[slim crypt]

the ravanger is beastly asf

[candid jay]

omg the essence bosses are good for farming weapon mastery quests because they don't die until you glory kill them lol, so u can keep them in a

[slim crypt]

the one i haven’t been really using is grenade launcher really

[shrewd mountain]

To be fair, in my first TDA playthrough, I brute forced the game and slightly gave up on secret hunting and upgrading

I didn't read upgrades and my campaign felt extremely short as a result

Like I thought the cosmic realm was mid game 💔

[north leaf]

yeah i can't get into 100%. i hate the gameplay loop of opening and closing the map. takes me out of the game.

[tranquil moss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/964472230379679806/1372699910603931810/DOOM_The_Peak_Ages.mp4?ex=6827b9ea&is=6826686a&hm=9cf3973742019608719c0257d16d8071ff65d1a9a566050aa6ddb285b5a10c5d& new secret upgrade that disables your skullcrusher weapons entirely (trust)

[slim crypt]

eternal has that too

[oblique glen]

It won't replace my true love though, the tribarrel chain gun.

[shrewd mountain]

Also does anyone get the slight bug where the chainshot just doesn't fire but uses a ball

[slim crypt]

my chainshot has been fine so far

[shrewd mountain]

I just hear ping and nothing comes out

Mainly when I spam the gun, but idk

[north leaf]

rushing thru work so i can get to playing again

[tranquil zodiac]

aracnotrons are such a problem in this game damn (i mean problem for you, not for the game)

[slim crypt]

yo what shield rune we running there’s two idk which one is better, fissure or the last one that stuns enemies i forgot the name

[obtuse oyster]

2020: It's not 2016
2025: It's not eternal

[shrewd mountain]

Just shield charge and SSG the fuckers

Super damn easy to kill them

[oblique glen]

Shield stun eats them alive.

[slim crypt]

they are easiest enemies lowkey need a buff

[north leaf]

yeah they get the prowler treatment, except instead of meat hook + ssg its shield charge + ssg

[tranquil zodiac]

i know but if he catches you off guard it can kill you really quickly

[obtuse oyster]

just shoot them or smn lol

[tranquil zodiac]

ssg is uneccessary

[slim crypt]

they are mission objectives

[obtuse oyster]

Also ther's so many weapons jfc

[slim crypt]

good. it’s doom

[shrewd mountain]

Literally this entire games philosophy is "shoot them till they die"

[proud stirrup]

Good evening everyone! Has anyone else been experiencing the crashing on PC? :/

[obtuse oyster]

is there more than 11 weapons? (without the superweapon)

[north leaf]

0 crashes on me, intel+nvidia setup

[obtuse oyster]

mfs can't run the game on their gaming rigs from the future meanwhile I'm gaming on the ryzen 5 3600x rtx4060ti 16gb 💀

[oblique glen]

0

[slim crypt]

normal mission objectives they are linear not secrets

[shrewd mountain]

Tbh the guns we have are more than enough

[slim crypt]

you’ll get all of them soon

[proud stirrup]

That’s what I have. Yesterday I couldn’t even can’t get through the cutscenes. Even with the most updated drivers. Today I downgraded the drivers and could play for 30-45 minute intervals, until it crashed again. Was hoping for some solutions.

[slim crypt]

personally i wouldn’t even call them separate weapons i see them as more weapon mods if anything

[shrewd mountain]

The only gun I want to see in the DLC is the doom 64 version of the unmaker, it would actually fit TDA so well as a superweapon

[tranquil zodiac]

i already knew about the shield dash strat against aracnotron. There's this arena in the forge that spawns one after you break the empowered battle knight's armor

[shrewd mountain]

If you could upgrade the unmaker with demon keys, that would go so hard

[tranquil moss]

as you progress through the game

[shrewd mountain]

I wish we saw more hell levels, hell in this game just felt like eternals

[obtuse oyster]

I know I am overwhelmed, I am barely using the skull crusher class

[shrewd mountain]

Use it for crowds

[slim crypt]

or big enemies

[shrewd mountain]

Like 2016's hell was unique, doom 64 was visually unique, eternal felt like the most classic doom

[north leaf]

weird, i'm on 12700k, 32gb ddr4, 3060ti +win10. maybe its windows11 or ddr5 thing

[shrewd mountain]

And TDA just felt like, more eternal hell :/

Except for the soul hell level, that went hard

[slim crypt]

doom 3 still has the best hell tbh

[shrewd mountain]

D64 has the best classic doom hell

I loved it but it's not my go to

[slim crypt]

it’s my top 3

[shrewd mountain]

Doom 3 has one of the best SSG's of all time, fight me

[oblique glen]

You've probably already done this, but turn literally everything off other than the game and see if it works.

[slim crypt]

good.

[shrewd mountain]

Doom always had horror themes, they just leaned into it way more

[slim crypt]

best and most satisfying shotguns

[shrewd mountain]

Plus doom 3 is the only horror game themed around hell that I think works

[slim crypt]

didn’t try btw it succeeded amazingly

[zinc vigil]

bruh some guy on youtube is ranting on why Doom should be a "Playstation exclusive only" 🤣

[shrewd mountain]

People who hated doom 3's shotgun had skill issues

People thought 1993 doom was scary

[slim crypt]

rng was a lil bs but it’s a fantastic shotgun

[shrewd mountain]

Lmao, the doomslayer feels like he's slowly replacing master chief as Microsofts fps mascot

[shrewd mountain]

It could've been tweaked better but the combat dance with it went hard if you knew how to use it efficiently

[zinc vigil]

lmao

[shrewd mountain]

Without doom 3 we wouldn't have the art direction of 2016

2016 leaned heavily into Doom 3's artstyle since the original plan for DOOM 4 was to be a direct sequel to DOOM 3

[tranquil zodiac]

its true actually, i played all chapters of it for the first time last year

[shrewd mountain]

People think 2016 was just rebooted out of nowhere but it was silently in development since doom 3

2016 does not match doom 1 and 2s art direction

Eternal matches those games far better than 2016

[lethal mural]

Is anyone else a little disappointed with Dark Ages?

[north leaf]

i love doom and id but i hope after TDA + DLC + post launch we get a new quake ||or perhaps rage 3 || 👀

[slim crypt]

you just had to kiss the demon to use it that’s about it

[tranquil zodiac]

yup. Hell in 1 was bizarre and broken

[shrewd mountain]

Both the 2016 UAC and hell levels are directly linked to DOOM 3's art direction

And it could be debated if they share the same timeline from a few codex entries and Easter eggs, but I'm not touching that

Doom 3 is the maybe canon game

[slim crypt]

doom 3 is another universe they barely touch lore on it

[shrewd mountain]

I mean,,,

[slim crypt]

it’s mainly not canon

[shrewd mountain]

They do go back to doom 3 a lot for modern doom, to deny its existence is a bit farfetched

[gray gorge]

Is it true TDA needs to be always online to play?

[slim crypt]

the only connection there really is that it’s a remake of doom 1 story

[shrewd mountain]

There's codex entries related to the 2016 health station being a predecessor to D3's version, the same companies like mixom exist, the soul Cube exists in both 2016 and eternal, and the sentinels architecture directly reference the Martian tablets with the slayer wielding the soul cube

[slim crypt]

maybe swap out doom 1 for doom 3? that could work if you wanna doom 3 in there

[shrewd mountain]

And 2016 would take place 4 years after D3

I'm not saying they are directly in the same universe

[gray gorge]

That sucks

[lethal mural]

i kinda wish they had leaned more into the art design and tone of 3. The reboots iteration of hell and demons isnt particularly threatening. Somewhere between 3 and 2016 in terms of tone and speed would have been the sweet spot.

[shrewd mountain]

But they are heavily referenced

[slim crypt]

comparatively tho an easter egg like the soul cube is pretty minisucal

[shrewd mountain]

I do not think doom 3 is a reboot of doom 1 chronologically

[slim crypt]

it’s more of a retelling of it

[shrewd mountain]

Doom 3 is a reboot as IF doom 1993 and doom 2 did not exist

But if I were to place it on the timeline chronologically

They canonically share the same hell, even if they aren't in the same universe/earth dimension

Chronologically, DOOM 3 would sit between TDA and 2016

Because of the evolutionary designs of the demons, it would fit that timeline in hells history

Take the designs of the imps, the vagary, the hell knight

[slim crypt]

i think objectively tho doom 3 its own thing and shouldn’t be in main timeline

[shrewd mountain]

They do not match classic dooms designs

[slim crypt]

i’m pretty sure mono agrees too idk

[shrewd mountain]

It could be, but i doubt it'll ever be confirmed

[flint ocean]

I get that they wanted a more grounded approach for this game but I kinda miss flying through the air like you could in eternal. Mech combat is badass tho

[shrewd mountain]

I don't think it is, but it is canon to the doom franchise and hell

It's 100% confirmed they share the same hell

I love how Deborah Wilson returned to play as thira

She was so good in wolfenstein 2

[slim crypt]

yeah that’s pretty much it but dope either way

[long sparrow]

@candid jay
Just to be sure, did you complete all the challenges of that map? The challenges also count as completion

[shrewd mountain]

The black woman whos in every videogame ever

Yknow she played that one woman from Detroit become human

[slim crypt]

suicide squad

[dusty halo]

Not gonna lie it would be good to see the Maledict to make an official appearance in the new doom era.

[shrewd mountain]

She also played in suicide squad

[long sparrow]

Debra Wilson

[shrewd mountain]

I love that actress

[dusty halo]

Out of all the things from doom 3, I think that thing tone wise would actually fit.

[shrewd mountain]

Yes her, I said her name ☠️

[shrewd mountain]

They reused a lot of it in doom 2016

[dusty halo]

Soul cube, etc.

[shrewd mountain]

People forget DOOM 4 which would evolve into 2016, WAS A DIRECT SEQUEL TO DOOM 3

[long sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-notebook-gif-20708336

[dusty halo]

I literally call doom 2016 doom 4.

[long sparrow]

My bad lol

[candid jay]

yupyup ik, it wasn't, it was one of the gold chest i previously taken already idk why the secret at that spot hadnt procced even tho i walked over it so many times

[dusty halo]

God dude WAY before the reveal I would look up doom 4 here and there and hear about the development.

ID software would take YEARS making their games detail wise.

[long sparrow]

Oh you found it then? Good to know, also yeah that sounds weird as hell ngl, sounds like an actual bug

[shrewd mountain]

Also in argent dnur at the end of 2016, we see stone carvings of the doomslayer holding the soul Cube like the tablets in doom 3

[dusty halo]

They still do! The new ID software seems to be doing well in that regard.

[dusty halo]

I did NOT see that.