the-dark-ages

[frail bloom]

Granted I play on console

Are there extra lives un ultra nightmare? Silly question I know but I'm curious

[grim cloud]

modded version uses battelmode maps and most spawns are random so you never know what ur going to get

[warm ibex]

I highly doubt it

the official what

[grim cloud]

like why the fuck didnt id use the bm maps for horde, was like obvious design choice

[frail bloom]

Ultra nightmare ie gonna kill me😭

[grim cloud]

Horde Mode ... gaming

[warm ibex]

huh, horde mode... I like that name

https://tenor.com/view/fant4stic-say-that-again-gif-16690486418948643620

[grim cloud]

extra lives do not belong in normal mode honestly, it becomes a crutch

restarting check points is good for learning

[frail bloom]

At least the limit is 5 per level

And not 50 like endgame eternal

[grim cloud]

i think that is for normal mode, extrra lives will prob be as many as you can find

at least that is what i speculate, could be wrong

what will happen to spill over levels with extra life mode? u need to be rewarded

because that is the point of that right?

[frail bloom]

@warm ibex how does the extra life system work?

[warm ibex]

you get a maximum of five, not sure if the capacity can be increased through upgrades. When you die, a prompt will appear asking if you'd like to use a life or save it and reload the nearest checkpoint

they're also called Life Sigils this time

[frail bloom]

There ya go

[warm ibex]

according to Tyler McVicker, Hugo stated that the team is still debating on what to do when the player finds a life sigil while at max capacity

you'll likely receive a small amount of gold if you decide to pick it up instead of coming back after the level is nearly finished (this is my personal speculation)

[frail bloom]

So they are still working on the game a month before release, interesting

Like working on the systems, not just bug fixes lol

Which hopefully includes the dragon

[warm ibex]

I wouldn't really call that "working on the systems" lol, more like balancing adjustments and final polishing

[frail bloom]

Ye that's what I meant

[warm ibex]

oh lol

[harsh egret]

whats more interesting to me is they said they are still working on the dragon segments

seems like a lot to still be working on

[warm ibex]

I wonder what they meant by that

[harsh egret]

ik its an older build that yall played on but i still question what they can really do now to really improve it

[plain iron]

Oh my God I am a fucking idiot ofc they can still work on the game. It's not like the game is on the disk, that's just a key really.

Jesus fucking christ.

[grim cloud]

they are going through crunch hell right now, who knows what final is

[frail bloom]

Yeah the crunch is gonna be insane

[harsh egret]

theres like 10% of me thats scared of a delay lmfao

[frail bloom]

Poor guys

[grim cloud]

as far as rewards past 5/5 lives, i say you get full health +100 over your max limit. IF you find antoher life, u get another 100

[warm ibex]

I've been wondering the same thing

[frail bloom]

2 delays in a row would be really bad

[grim cloud]

and so on forever, no hit runs may be a thing

[warm ibex]

Honestly? I'm kinda hoping for one. I feel like delaying the game even just a month or two would give them a little more time to fine tune the dragon segments

[harsh egret]

schedule wise it would fuck me up completly if it releases 20 june-20 july

i would more or less not be able to play it

[plain iron]

Same actually

[frail bloom]

Idk this isn't including upgrades for the dragon

[warm ibex]

that would suck

[harsh egret]

so i hope not

so i just hope they got this in place, hopefully

[frail bloom]

We're talking about base dragon here

[harsh egret]

and with that hugo facebook post with the bfg being revealed soon kinda gives off the vibe that they arent considering delays?

[warm ibex]

I don't think that's a thing man lol

[harsh egret]

yeah im coping maybe

[plain iron]

I think partially the reason the dragon feels so off is the lack of things to be doing imo. There's no other demons that can terrorise you while you try to beat the shit outta the demonic ship

[grim cloud]

there wont be a delay onw unless its something seroius.

[frail bloom]

Yeah this isn't taking into account the flying demons and minibosses

[grim cloud]

i think we were at two months when it got its delay notice, somoene should check

Astral Dreadnought might be a boss, im just saying

[frail bloom]

Hopefully it's just finetuning the base dragon and maybe the upgrades help flesh out the dragon

[harsh egret]

keep in mind for example there were no flying big caco bois in the b-roll, but there were in the dev direct on the same map

[warm ibex]

I didn't think that was too much of a problem personally, the dragon issues run down to its very core (in my personal opinion). I don't feel like this is something that can be fixed with a speed increase or damage output adjustment, the combat's foundation is flawed

[harsh egret]

so things can change, i think they kept some things behind closed doors

[frail bloom]

Well not all games are perfect

Sad

[plain iron]

Also another thing I believe regarding the dragon's sections are the movements of the dragon doesn't make sense, or is off. It's almost like a walk cycle being oddly slow in places it shouldn't be

[harsh egret]

well idk, if they delay it its for a good reason, if they dont, its also for a good reason in my opinion

i trust in them tbh

[frail bloom]

Yeah it seems really rigid

Honestly the only thing I'm apprehensive about

[sonic turret]

I wouldn't mind if they delayed until the Autumn l, gives me more time to gather my finances and more time to play once the summer festival season is over, while allowing themselves to work more on polishing everything that they'd otherwise have to savd for the first patch.

[harsh egret]

autumn damn

[frail bloom]

Not me lol, autumn is nuts

But your patience is impressive

[harsh egret]

they will not do that

[sonic turret]

Only because I don't currently own a system that will run the game anyway.

[plain iron]

I do hope they just redo the animations, I feel like animation tweaks can help quite a lot.

[frail bloom]

Yeah it seemed different in the dev direct or maybe I'm tweaking

[warm ibex]

I don't expect a delay, but I can't say I'd be upset if they pushed it back to july/august. If they need more time to produce a better product I'm all for it

[harsh egret]

i already saw a bunch of animation issues i saw in the dev direct fixed in the preview build so im not too worried about that

[frail bloom]

Yeah I guess that's fair, at least they are working on it

How much they're changing idk

[grim cloud]

delay would suck, but if they give us a sorry with a Seige Gameplay Demo, all is forgiven.

[sonic turret]

I don't think I'd be upset, I mean I might give myself five seconds of rage, but after that, I'd be willing to just let Hugo and the team cook, since id haven't let me down in over thirty years.

[warm ibex]

no apology gift needed, a better final product is your reward lol

[harsh egret]

i upgraded my pc for this, and if they release during july then id have to play on my gaming laptop and id rather not

[grim cloud]

i was more upset when they cancelled invasion mode

[arctic pagoda]

Someone pinged me

[winter idol]

Highly doubt a delay is in the cards this close to launch

[harsh egret]

when did they announce the eternal delay again?

i believe it was somewhat close to launch

[grim cloud]

lie 9 weeks

[harsh egret]

8 oct yeah i mean idk

[plain iron]

I do believe it was quite strange they did the demo this late tbh

[grim cloud]

maybe 8 weeks, it was def after QuakeCon

[winter idol]

Dont think they did any eternal demos until closer to launch

[sonic turret]

They should've announced a delay on April 1st, missed opportunity.

[harsh egret]

they had mars core at e3 or smth

as a playable level

[grim cloud]

October 8th was the news, release was Nov 20th

[harsh egret]

yh

[grim cloud]

shit we ARE RIGHT THERE!!! ugh

[winter idol]

Ah

[warm ibex]

Yeah, so a delay is in the cards

[harsh egret]

hahah

[frail bloom]

Very funny

[plain iron]

If they delay I might cry. I've been planning this shit for a month

[winter idol]

Either way i doubt it, i dont see a need for one really, not like the dragon segments can just be removed at this point

[harsh egret]

idk im praying for no delay is all im saying

otherwise its likely to be delayed to a very bad date for me

[sonic turret]

Are the dragon segments really that bad? I'm not crazy about them because I'm a traditionalist, however for the sake of people coming in from other third person gaming franchises, I think it'd be interesting for them.

[harsh egret]

i dont think they are "bad" but they might not be up to par with the rest of the game maybe?

[winter idol]

From what ive seen and heard almost everyone else say, they just feel out of place compared to the rest of the game

[sonic turret]

That's what I initially thought, and I felt the same way about the dragon in TAG.

[frail bloom]

When was the demo anyway

[grim cloud]

as long as there is more groudned combat on dragon levels, i am fine with it

[frail bloom]

Wasn't it in the middle of march

[plain iron]

It was in march, but I'm not sure when id software actually heard the critique

[frail bloom]

Well time will tell

I don't want a delay but if the game needs one

Then I'll wait

[harsh egret]

the critique could also have come from other qa testing they had in the past

[harsh egret]

i hiiiighly doubt they needed content creators to try it before they figured out that the dragon segments have some issues

[frail bloom]

Ye I thought that aswell

[harsh egret]

so who knows, maybe on release we get insanely surprised by some great improvements

[frail bloom]

4 yrs in they would've been bored of it if it wasn't fleshed out

[harsh egret]

i strongly believe in id in that they know what they are doing tbh

[frail bloom]

Me too, hopefully it all doesn't go to crap

[nova badger]

Sometimes people get a bit too high on their own supply, and they need someone outside the bubble to tell it to them straight.

[frail bloom]

Yeah that did happen once already

[nova badger]

"This part sucks. Here's why. Please fix it."

[grim cloud]

well extreme cases is called the george lucas syndrome

but i prefer ridley scott disease

we do not have that problem

but outsiders thinkg outside the box and approach a game or movie much differently than someone who sees it every day

[frail bloom]

Well hopefully the upgraded dragon offers more alleviation

[grim cloud]

i htink the dragon will be like Halo vehcicels, you get on when needed and get off. Wolfenstein had this, quake had it too

halo was more free and open if i remember, only played the first game ... well i quit becuase stupid level never neded.

but i played tons of MP

[frail bloom]

Well that was confirmed since we see it board ships

At least there's that

[grim cloud]

but can you just get off the dragon on top of the catherdral steeple?

looks to be big green pentagram areas only

which tells us how that gameplay is going to go i supppose

[frail bloom]

No clue, we have been talking about base dragon gameplay without upgrades or extra enemies

That's why it isn't a huge deal

May be dissapointing or it may not be in the final product but I wasn't here for the dragon in the first place

May it die and be consumed by demons

[hollow sandal]

wait, is this new info? 😭

[harsh egret]

no, its just the time period we are in rn is around the same time period eternal got delayed compared to its release

[warm ibex]

Hato is right

no new info or anything, a delay is very unlikely. it's just not impossible

[grim cloud]

it was just because delay was about 40 days out when Eternal got delayed. We about that point right now

so we jinxing that

[hollow sandal]

ohhh shit

[sterile sage]

It doesn't matter if the release date is delayed due to quality improvement

[frail bloom]

Very true, so many games release unfinished

In this era at least

[sterile sage]

When we think about the Dragon section, I think the delay is rather necessary.

[frail bloom]

I mean they have a month, we aren't considering the dragon with upgrades throughout the game but if they think they need one then they need one

[hollow sandal]

Tru

[sterile sage]

I don't think there will be a dramatic improvement in a month.

[frail bloom]

I'm not saying that either, I'm saying that the dragon may become better the more it's upgraded ingame

Because they've mentioned that since the direct

It's the base dragon gameplay that is lacking but with upgrades in game it may be much better than at the beginning

[wooden acorn]

Day 72 of 112

[wooden acorn]

We are precisely 40 days to launch 🤓☝️

[hard thistle]

if tda gets delayed i will genuinely sob

im not an og doomer but i still been patiently waiitn since the first trailer droped

[frail bloom]

Yeah we're so close

But honestly we've been getting pretty worked up lately

It's not like it'll ruin the game

For the most of us

[final dune]

so any new info? so far other than the gameplay?

[frail bloom]

No...

[final dune]

theyve been working on it longer than doom eternal and also they just let content creators play it the game wont be delayed

...i hope

[frail bloom]

Maybe sometime in these two weeks

We've been on edge but hopefully it'll get better

[vapid lodge]

I took PTO the whole week

if they delay it, bethesda or id owes me one week of free time

[vapid lodge]

https://imgur.com/a/IUUb8WZ

Read the whole thing, after this, they delayed the game

"No take backsies"

Hope this wont happen to Dark Ages

[fleet spruce]

to be fair, they spent all their budget on marketing instead of actually developing a game

doesn't seem to be the case with The Dark Ages

[kind ginkgo]

coughsilksongcough

didnt market or release the game 😩

[fleet spruce]

Silksong is in development hell lmao

[prime sentinel]

I doubt it will get delayed

That would be so soon before release

[vapid lodge]

doesnt matter, Cyberpunk did it way sooner

so legally its possible

however I dont care if CP 2077 is a great game now, even with a lot of players...

Its the biggest joke in the modern era of gaming

Imagine making a console that is themed with CP2077 only for it to perform horribly and removed from the PS store

biggest freaking joke ever

[fleet spruce]

again, highly unlikely

[wheat sigil]

i actually haven't watched any gameplay yet

except a teeny bit of stuff that's been sent to me

[solar edge]

I became far too in love with doom eternals gameplay

Afraid that tda will feel like a step down

[autumn dawn]

me too

[pallid wing]

I really doubt it.
Shield bash looks a lot like dash/hook. The weakpoint system is more in depth. And there will 3x the monsters on screen.

[solar edge]

More monsters doesn’t mean better gameplay tho

I’m not totally worried though, cause the movement gave me a lot of vibes from classic doom and I love those games

[hollow sandal]

Interesting! Going in blind?

[wheat sigil]

honestly, that will probably end up being the case

didn't really plan to do it, nor do i have any particular reason to do it

i'm guessing the youtubers can survive even without my view

[autumn dawn]

hi @warm ibex, is there gonna be an option to disable the slow down effect everytime you melee an enemy?

[warm ibex]

I've heard that there is, but I can't confirm anything

Hugo did state that the slowdown is manually activated by a button. This wasn't the case during the press demo, but they may have changed it in the time since

[graceful lion]

yes

of course there will be, probably

not sure either obviously but as horde said, it's activated by holding or pressing the shield throw button

[hard thistle]

I saw in one gameplay video somebody was able to down the game while jumping around with the super shotgun

[fleet spruce]

iirc that's chrono strike rune?

[hard thistle]

I should've figured that one would come back

[neon perch]

Which one?

What game are you talking about?

[prime sentinel]

this is probably the biggest pinkie ever in a doom game

its even bigger than the Doom 3 one

[prime sentinel]

https://youtu.be/7JX6lJuEAbI?si=HmSv9m42r3114K1K&t=99

it appears to happen at around 1:39 in this video

the player slows down time for a moment with seemingly no other way it could have been triggered besides a button press

[unborn tiger]

90% sure i already know the answer but will the ost release when the game comes out or will it be available earlier?

or even worse: will the same fuckery happen as with eternal and do i have to download it from sketchy sites 2 months after the game is out

[jolly relic]

Do you think now that the nintendo switch 2 specs got out, TDA will be able to be on it?

[vagrant path]

nah

[jolly relic]

But think about it, the switch 2 has the ability to run a new from software game

I think with a few changes here and there it migth be able to

[fresh bear]

I hope that the OST will be delivered on time and that the music composer/artist is not treated like Mick was on Eternal

[unborn tiger]

i mean eternal was available on the switch 1 back then

so based on that logic, maybe?

like nintendo is one of the big 3 console companies so they'd miss out on profits if they didn't make a version for it

at least, as far as i can predict with my limited knowledge of hardware and economics

[slender night]

That doesn't really mean anything

The FromSoftware game will be exclusive to the NS2 so it'll be optimized for it. TDA is developed with the Xbox Series S in mind

[barren iron]

I think TDA could come to the switch 2, but it’ll be a few years. Once they’ve got it as optimized as possible

[nova spear]

Why do people buy nintendo switches

[hollow sandal]

For Nintendo exclusive games, that's one reason

[frail bloom]

Yeah I've seen clips where they slow down time before throwing the shield too, so I'm not sure how old the demo build they had them play was

[frail bloom]

No one was making that argument lol

From what I heard it was fun and engaging, keep in mind that it was the 5th or 6th level out if 22 levels, not including dlc

Difficulty ramps up as you progress along the campaign

[fleet spruce]

I used to own one until Steam Deck was available in my country

Used to play all Doom games there on it with ports of other games

[simple mist]

The steam deck is tempting,especially after the switch 2s bs price.

[silent surge]

it releases same day as the game per finishing move. may 15

[barren iron]

Because people like nintendo games?

currently re-playing through Eternal on Ultra-violence and am trying to not suck, it's not going great lmao

[nova spear]

Damn goodluck

[barren iron]

I think the biggest issue is I picked the micro missiles instead of the scope, so now I've made it harder on myself to kill the fat-ass cannon dudes

[fresh bear]

So, I just got my sweater back from my ex on Friday and as expected, it was smelling fragrance from 10 meters away, I'm going to need to wash it at least 2 times to make the smell go away

[barren iron]

well after completely failing to get past that little arena part of Cultist Base, I literally did it on like my 5th try just now

[graceful lion]

i dont think its gonna be an eternal situation

that was like a once in a company's lifetime kinda fuckup

[wooden acorn]

Lmao love the different names people give demons

[autumn dawn]

when i blur or unfocus my eyes, i can see garfield on scarlett's pfp

[wooden acorn]

I See it too

Day 73 of 112

[copper torrent]

I guess Id are a bit insane with their music demand. One guy wasnt enough for Eternal, so they hired two guys just for DLC, and four guys for the next game!

And all that for making the music play so quiet that you can't even hear it, and confining some of the coolest tracks to a single arena

[silent surge]

or they wanted to go with this group versus individual contracting

play the game and adjust the sliders before making a solid statement

i think it could’ve been turned up at points. others were fine. so we can adjust it

(i’m not one to say you have to be in a position of authority to have an opinion on a subject, but we need to move forward and give finishing move more a chance. the more people hear, the more they like)

[copper torrent]

Finishing Move's work showcased until now seems perfectly good. It's hard not to imagine what could be, or not to lament the loss, because Mick's work was truly lightning in a bottle. But it could be way worse, TDA's music sounds awesome

[plain iron]

Ew mick lmao

I genuinely don't gaf abt Mick's music

[prime sentinel]

I think it was turned low for the preview

[graceful lion]

i think its cool, but overrated

[prime sentinel]

You can hear it much louder in other clips, where I assume the player went in the options and turned it up

[copper torrent]

Hopefully. though I'm referring mainly to Eternal's music

[prime sentinel]

It’s reasonable to miss Mick and his style but that’s not going to bring him back and we should accept the new musicians with open arms

[plain iron]

The baton has been passed on.

[feral cargo]

what is the expected game's length for TDA? around 10-15 hrs?

[prime sentinel]

No confirmed length, but it’s 22 maps with the “sweet spot” for level length being about an hour

So there’s a good chance it’s over 20 hours

[feral cargo]

I mean given the price they are charging and its SP only, I would expect no less

[zealous shard]

come on

gimmeh a new trailer!

[prime sentinel]

I think the next trailer we get will be the launch trailer

I mean it’s so close, what’s the point of putting another trailer out between then and now

[wooden acorn]

April 15th (the voices told me)

[slender night]

Quake III Doom reference...

[grizzled spoke]

???

[plain iron]

I don't. I do not care for it.

[grizzled spoke]

Thats crazy

But i guess if you feel like that can’t argue about it

Hard not to think of his music when you think of doom, they are intrinsically linked now

[plain iron]

... he's done only 2 games in a series w over 6 games 😭

[slender night]

Manifesting a Chris Vrenna return

[plain iron]

Hell, He didn't even fully do eternal

[slender night]

Major's right. Most of DOOM media online, memes or videos, uses Mick's music

[grizzled spoke]

Oh, I don’t care about the old games

[slender night]

To the majority of people the DOOM composer is Mick, even if Bobby Prince has done more games

[plain iron]

That's balls.

[hollow sandal]

Did Mick create Samuel Hayden's theme?

[plain iron]

Hrr I think so

[pallid wing]

Okay, just now seeing stone imp footage. Does it have a weapon immunity?
They are like the imps from 2016-Eternal. Fast and small. Also have a rolly-polly attack which can be parried.

[wooden acorn]

The stimp returns

[wheat sigil]

hopefully not, stone imps was one of the worst eternal enemies

the general idea - having a mobile, small, punishing enemy that somewhat modulates combat - isn't bad, but it was executed very poorly

[hollow sandal]

Lol "Stimp"

[fresh lintel]

my issue with the stone imp was it forced you to use full auto shotgun, and like.. in lore its damages by heavy vibrations, so like wouldn't the turret mode on the chain gun work too? idk it just kinda sucked to be forced to only use 1 mod

[wheat sigil]

best fricking name ever

exactly

the cc is also obnoxious

it should be saved - especially in a movement heavy game - for special occasions

[pallid wing]

I see it dying to the shield toss.

[fresh lintel]

also from the little i've seen and heard of the dark ages, it seems full auto is gone, and we now have a repurposed triple burst from 2016 instead

[hollow sandal]

It looks more ferocious at a bit of a farther range imo

Compared to 2016

[fresh lintel]

yeah and it seems to have an upgrade to light demons on fire so that's good

[hollow sandal]

Facts

[wheat sigil]

full auto my beloved💔

[pallid wing]

The guns probably have 2 mods each as previous Doom titles

[wheat sigil]

we got so many single fire weapons anyways...
or at least in previous games

[cyan lotus]

The weird thing about stone imps in DE is they don’t even have “weaknesses” in the normal sense, some things just have less damage reduction than others, nothing does it’s base value or exceeds it on them

[fresh lintel]

also i watching some of the revealed B-Roll footage given to content creators and idk if i was tripping or something but i swear i saw more dismemberment on the demons than in DOOM Eternal

like im talking arms flying off the mancubus, imps being splattered into walls. like some real movie grade stuff

[wheat sigil]

i may need to hype my gpu up like it's about to go into battle before playing tda

[fresh lintel]

oh yeah for sure

i don't have many concerns when it comes to MY set up, but given it's a 100 GB game (not including DLC I assume) imma need to make space

[reef ocean]

I'm so ready to play this game. The gameplay footages look so good.

[wheat sigil]

oh yeahhh

same

[simple mist]

Me 2

Doom the gyat sigma ohio ages

[reef ocean]

It's nice to have 3 nu doom games that are so different from each other.

[fresh lintel]

i already have a plan to uninstall Black Ops 6 lol, that should give me the space i need

[wheat sigil]

i completely out of the blue am down to my last 30gb😭
idek what's taking up over 900gb

[simple mist]

Cod is garbage anyways

[wheat sigil]

and no clue how to find it..

[reef ocean]

This and the new painkiller are going to take all my time up. 😂

[wheat sigil]

cod? why was it even there in the first place

[fresh lintel]

i know lol, i just play it sometimes to hold me over, once The Dark Ages comes out, imma uninstall and delete all files pertaining to Black Ops 6

[simple mist]

Real

[wheat sigil]

hopefully i'll be able to sink my teeth into tda for real, i'd love it

[simple mist]

Been playing through the kingdom hearts series whilst I wait for TDA

[wheat sigil]

i been playing more eternal

i'd be impressed if i'll prefer tda over eternal

not because i don't have faith in it - but it doesn't really lean into what i enjoy the most

[reef ocean]

I'm almost about down playing through doom eternal on nightmare. Just have 2 missions left for AG2. After that, I need to play back through 2016 again, haven't played in a long time.

[fresh lintel]

since i pre-ordered premium edition, i should see if im allowed to stream the dark ages once i get it installed, i assume ID doesn't mind considering they wouldn't do early access if they didn't want people streaming it lol

[reef ocean]

Yeah, I like eternals design alot. Quick switching is so much fun, especially the vertical movement to go with it and different combos. Dark Ages will certainly be interesting with the new grounded mechanics.

[wheat sigil]

yeah for sure

[grim cloud]

there seems to be a stone imp variant, cant really tell

[wheat sigil]

i've been leaning into a more grounded playstyle in eternal recently though

the aerial playstyle got kinda boring, there wasn't really a lot of major stuff left for me to learn there

[fresh lintel]

idk i really like the approach of being like a fast tank so im sure i'll enjoy tda

[reef ocean]

I should try that.

[wheat sigil]

ye, i started doing it way too late lmao (1100 hours into the game)

[reef ocean]

do you equip blood fueled rune? Seems like it would be a good rune for that type of play.

[wheat sigil]

the single dashing combined with ballista boosting/yeethooking really makes the game even more fast paced

[wheat sigil]

no, it isn't really that useful since i don't walk normally a lot and i barely glory kill

i rock air control, dazed and confused and equipment fiend

sometimes i'll change air control for savagery if i feel like it, but it's not optimal

[cyan lotus]

don’t mean to wedge this in here for the sake of it, but I’m under the impression grounded gameplay is more efficient in terms of speed. You’ll never see a speedrun where somebodies air camping

[wheat sigil]

not exactly sure what you're trying to say, but grounded gameplay just seems significantly faster to me

[cyan lotus]

That’s what I mean

[warm ibex]

So I guess it was in the demo!

Holding down the shield throw button, which you don't need to do otherwise. interesting

[frail bloom]

How old is the demo?

Was it curated months before playtesting?

Sweet

[fleet spruce]

Nice pfp

[reef ocean]

thanks! its custom made by my friend. It's just a monitor surrounded by the silent cartographer map hologram. 😃

[fleet spruce]

also it's actually Marathon logo
(Not looking forward towards that new Marathon extraction shooter)

old Bungie is cool

[final dune]

use treesize

[reef ocean]

yeah true! lol

I'm not looking forward to it either....

I'm glad Doom 2016 came around when it did because I wasn't enjoying any FPS games outside of Battlefield 3 and 4.

[frail bloom]

Then Doom eternal came out during covid, now the dark ages is coming out when the gaming industry has been declining

[reef ocean]

Halo died after reach basically, so Doom 2016 was a refresher. Better multiplayer than Halo 4's too.

[frail bloom]

Doom games are so awesome man

[reef ocean]

They are, I never really played the classic doom 1/2/64 games. I recently started playing Doom 1 and it's been fun.

[frail bloom]

Dude, you have to play the classic games, some of the expansions and addons they offer are genuinely peak gaming, especially co-op

[reef ocean]

I did hop on a co-op lobby. It was nuts lol. So many doomguys in 1 level.

[graceful lion]

tda seems like a classic doom style game, definitely more complex tho, so youll like it extra

[reef ocean]

Doom 3 was my first game. Scared the crap out of me as a teenager.

[frail bloom]

It is it's own beast, but it will probably play like doom more like 2016 and eternal did,

Not that this is bad in any way shape or form

Me personally

[graceful lion]

yeah ofc, but its also gonna be as fast as eternal, or faster, i heard

as in button presses and stuff, not necissarily physical speed

[reef ocean]

Yeah, I do like dodging projectiles and taking cover. I'm curious how long your shield in DA will cover you for when blocking shots?

[frail bloom]

I see tda as an evolution of doom

[graceful lion]

probably for as long as you have it open

but it might get broken if u keep it on all the time

[frail bloom]

We aren't confined by the same guns, same locations, same story beats

[graceful lion]

or like, staggered, like in other games,

[reef ocean]

I like the idea of parry and countering.

[frail bloom]

The doom formula is evolving🔥

[graceful lion]

theres 6 weapon classes which is cool

each weapon class has 2 weapons except 1

which has one

[reef ocean]

Perhaps this game will be more controller friendly? I've seen people do eternal with controller, but that's just nuts lol.

[graceful lion]

oh defintiely, especially since controller players have their inputs available all at once

[frail bloom]

It's more controller friendly but that doesn't mean the game will be easier, it's just easier to pick up

Just like the classic doom games

[reef ocean]

no doubt, I'll mess with the sliders. 😆

[frail bloom]

Challenge runs are gonna offer infinite replayability

[reef ocean]

I'm a mouse and keyboard person, but I'd like to play on a controller from my recliner. I currently play on a Sony Bravia 78in screen lol.

[frail bloom]

Unrelated but I've seen a vid where doomguy parries a hell knight and it yeets across the skybox lol

[reef ocean]

the power of idtech

[frail bloom]

It was in mayo's vid

I have no idea how no one else caught it

[fleet spruce]

Both Doom 2016 and Eternal are very well optimized for gamepad controls , TDA looks even more compatible with gamepad due to how everything is restructured

[reef ocean]

If this games going to be long. Ultra nightmare/deathless will be so dreadful. Imagine playing 15hrs in and you die 💀

I'm sure there will be some optimized speedrun tactics though

[frail bloom]

It's gonna be painful😭

[cyan lotus]

speedrunning UN sucks, it’s not really done outside of 100% in DE

[frail bloom]

Ye this is true

The sliders are gonna allow pc players and console players to do a variety of challenge runs

[reef ocean]

yeah, that's what I mean. For 100%.

What's the eternal record now? 1hr 40min?

I remember when 3hrs was a big deal 😭

[graceful lion]

22 levels

[graceful lion]

can i play tda with all sliders pumped to the max

5 hour long video

[frail bloom]

Probably but I would do 10 normal runs first

[cyan lotus]

1:37:56

I speedrun sometimes but not hundo

[graceful lion]

tho it can be more or less, im not sure

this is hearsay from a creator who asked hugo, i cant confirm this 100%

[sleek ermine]

As far as I’ve heard this game is optimized for Xbox Series S so I’ll pick one up

[frail bloom]

Isn't that stronger than a 2060 anyways

[sleek ermine]

It’s the guy that spread the misinformation about a BIG FUCKING SWORD

[sleek ermine]

Well yes but I’ve heard the game itself is optimfor it

[graceful lion]

nope, tad weaker

[frail bloom]

No the 22 level thing was from tyler mcvicker

[graceful lion]

"From a pure graphics perspective, the Series S has a GPU roughly equivalent to either a GTX 1660 (so just under an RTX 2060, but with RT) or an AMD Radeon RX 6500 XT. Remember of course the graphics hardware in the Series S is bespoke specialized hardware and software" (from microsoft forums)

[frail bloom]

The guy you're thinking about is midnight lol

[wooden acorn]

Rag doll physics are so good

[graceful lion]

he said he was wrong tho

but also a giant sword is different from levels

but either way, however many levels is fine

[frail bloom]

Anyways a doom game lower than 60 fps will spark outrage

[sleek ermine]

I’ll still get one

Wait

[cyan lotus]

Every doom games under 60fps if your computers bad enough

[frail bloom]

It's probably closer to 16 or 17 considering the mech levels are it's own thing

[sleek ermine]

Aren’t you the person that has constantly been saying that TDA is optimized for Xbox Series S

[graceful lion]

my 1990 shitbox pc cant run doom 93 at 60 fps, fucked up

[sleek ermine]

Or am I tweaking

[graceful lion]

this is the only time i ever mentioned the xbox series s in my entire life, so no

[frail bloom]

Well ofc but I'm talking about the specs it recommends and the consoles it is releasing on. Games like monster hunter wilds and avowed run like crap

[sleek ermine]

Oh wait no it’s AnomeQ

[frail bloom]

On like almost anything

[graceful lion]

becuase developers just go with unoptimized bullshit fuckery like TAA or DLSS to turn 20 raw fps into 60 and the game doesnt look as good

some devleopers, anyways

[sleek ermine]

@slender night are you sure that TDA is optimized for Xbox Series S? (Or am I wrong again and it’s actually someone else who said it’s optimized for it)

Also sorry for ping

[frail bloom]

Not my doom😤

[graceful lion]

they said the game is set to release on ps5, windows, xbox series s and x

[sleek ermine]

Yeah whatever

[graceful lion]

so they probably want it optimized for the series s

they dont want it to become a nintendo situation where u play games at 30 fps

[sleek ermine]

The Series S is capable of 4K in specific instances anyway

(I have a huge cinema like screen so I should be able to play on more or less very high settings)

[graceful lion]

yeah, at 30 fps

🔥

[grim cloud]

rewatching some of the older doom previews

[sleek ermine]

Well, it’s base thing is 1440p so might as well do that

[frail bloom]

E3 footage?

Slow I know

[slender night]

It's a Microsoft game, it has to be optimized for the XSS

[sleek ermine]

4K 30 or 1440p60, which one is better

[sleek ermine]

Yeah that’s true

[frail bloom]

Is this a serious question

[grim cloud]

no, gamespot 2016 hour preview with nclip guy

[sleek ermine]

No

[graceful lion]

more fps is better, game will look good on lowest settings anyways

[frail bloom]

Even slower! Yet no one was thinking that back then

[grim cloud]

he asked about "Spiders with legs" and the marty was like "NO!"

[graceful lion]

30 fps will feel like shit, 60 fps feels smooth

[sleek ermine]

True, not exactly like graphics 1 on Roblox

[grim cloud]

i really wish the 2014 qc trailer existed

[frail bloom]

Ew marty, where hugolo🙏

[grim cloud]

hugo is there too

[frail bloom]

Yes

[grim cloud]

these vidoes are two weeks before the release of 2016

[frail bloom]

May you send the vid, I wanna watch it

For science

[grim cloud]

just youtube search "Doom Single-PLayer Livestream with the Devs!" IT is from gamespot

[frail bloom]

Alr thank you

[grim cloud]

im scared to post links because i get banned all the time

there is another ign one i think too with the same stuff

[proud vine]

hugo said the game will be longer than eternal so it will probably be atleast 20 hours

[fleet spruce]

which is nice because both 2016 and Eternal felt a little short for me

[frail bloom]

I can't even comprehend it

We've seen half a level and a quarter of another one

The people who played the demo are as about as clueless as us

(Not as but yk what I mean)

[fleet spruce]

yeah I getcha

i distinctly remember playing eternal back then and after completing The Final Sin it had me "Is that it? I want more!", same with the DLCs lmao

[frail bloom]

I might be stupid for saying this but I felt like 2016 was more of a campaign experience than eternal, even tho eternal was more fun, I was really immersed in 2016

[lyric leaf]

Just pre-ordered.

[frail bloom]

Me personally I consider them equal doom games

[fleet spruce]

that's just result of leftovers of Doom 3 DNA imo

[frail bloom]

Yeah it had so much doom 3 influence

Tda just looks so epic

I can't wait to see my favorite youtubers do a playthough lol

After I finish the game tho, I am not repeating what I did last time

[pallid wing]

Doom 3 is great, but it simply doesn't have the large encounters of 2016 and Eternal.

[fleet spruce]

I for one like that there's isn't gonna be a hub, Fortress of Doom is cool but I prefer going back to more linear progression

[frail bloom]

Yes but hopefully we get a menu where we look at the toys we collect like 2016

And the demon model viewer

[fleet spruce]

It was in general in tight spaces and corridors, also heavy limitations of technology combined with them pushing advanced lighting system resulted in such design. But yeah, great game.

Ragdolls are hilarious in 3

[normal vortex]

Let's not forget that ONE speedrun

That the devs reacted to

The one full of bug abuse

[cyan lotus]

okay I know which one you’re talking about but they did that more than once

[normal vortex]

Yeah

True

20 mins is crazy tho 😭😭😭 (I think it was 20 mins?)

[cyan lotus]

I’ve not done much of the campaign in terms of speedrunning, mainly TAG2

[normal vortex]

Yeah I haven't either

[sonic turret]

I dunno, I heard someone mention a hub world on one of the TDA videos yesterday.

[frail bloom]

No?

[sonic turret]

And from there, you can play different parts of the game in any specific order.

[frail bloom]

@warm ibex is there a hub world

[sonic turret]

Kinda like the Machine Games Quake levels I'm guessing.

[fleet spruce]

that deviates greatly from available information, are you sure you aren't confusing it with demo menu having 4 different parts of game available?

[pallid wing]

They definitely said no hub

[sonic turret]

I don't know, I haven't played the demo, I'm only going by what the content producers that had tried the game have said.

I'll try and find the video, I only saw like three of them.

[warm ibex]

no

[frail bloom]

There ya go

[warm ibex]

I believe that was confirmed before previews released

[frail bloom]

Ik but people have been hearing so much misinfo lately

Sometimes you need a straight answer

[warm ibex]

the level objectives can be tackled in any order, not the levels themselves. Even the more linear levels will still have segments where you can tackle an assortment of tasks however you please

[warm ibex]

oh yeah for sure, I was just mentioning that we do have direct dev confirmation and not just preview info

[late vine]

I wonder if my laptop iGPU will be able to run the game... I hope so, otherwise I might have to do a 'new id game' upgrade

[delicate grotto]

I agree. 2016’s atmosphere is unmatched. It’s an overall better, tightened campaign experience. Eternal’s combat makes up for its lack of immersion, imo.

[grim cloud]

someone needs to draw the siege map and all its objectives. It would be a great bathroom reader

there are plenty shots of the map, im sure it could be put together

[frail bloom]

Hell no

[frail bloom]

That map is large, I'll give them that

Some real war type stuff

[reef ocean]

agreed

Some of my friends prefer 2016s gameplay though, mostly because they don't like the idea of using their full arsenal or quick switching.

[frail bloom]

How is this myth still bolstered

You don't need to quickswitch or use your entire arsenal

Who is telling them that😭

[reef ocean]

Well, I try to tell them. But they are casuals and prefer first impressions.

[frail bloom]

Sigh

[reef ocean]

it is what it is.

I just tell them to get good and post a picture of my hours in 2016 and eternal. 😂

[cyan lotus]

how many hours

in eternal specifically

[reef ocean]

Honestly only have 120hrs in 2016. And...for eternal, 800+ I think.

834 to be exact

[grim cloud]

if i count idstudio stuff, well over 1k

[cyan lotus]

I’ve got 2500 in eternal

[reef ocean]

pretty sure 1/3 of my time was during 2020 since covid lockdown prevented me from doing anything else.

[frail bloom]

Damn, you spent 104 days playing doom eternal, that's a large accomplishment

I'm pretty sure I only have like 500 hrs

Hold on lemme check

[reef ocean]

I have 156hrs in IDStudio and idk how lol

[sleek ermine]

I have like 10 or something

Recently got Eternal

One of my favorites BY FAR

[zealous crag]

And I thought having 50h was a lot ( i did absolutely everything in the game in nightmare ) how are you pulling these Numbers ? With UN ?

[pallid wing]

TDA looks like the perfect blend of 2016s open ended objectives and Eternals combat puzzle

[grizzled thicket]

I think he speedruns so

[frail bloom]

Hopefully

[reef ocean]

I liked 2016s open end objectives.

[cyan lotus]

yeah that

lots of time dedicated specifically to doing the same things over and over again and not really getting tired of it

[fresh bear]

I only have 70hrs on Eternal but I did some good progress, I'm just grinding Horde and Battlemode milestones now that I've finished the campaign milestones except UN run.

[zealous crag]

Honestly I get it, the gameplay loop is perfect to me I never wanted it to end , especially the fact that every arena has a very cool design and demon placement, wish I had more time to play

[reef ocean]

I can't wait to use the saw shield. I think that's what I'm looking more forward to.

[grizzled thicket]

I have gotten worse cause when I have been playing recently I have been using the cheatcode that gives you unlimited speed thingy the yellow power up so now my timings are horrible

[sleek ermine]

Yeah I have about 10 on Eternal, no idea how I racked up 130 on BTD6 though

[reef ocean]

The arena designs are good. I think it's lame that people complain about being locked down to a arena.

[zealous crag]

Its badass af, especially the fact you can Stun demons by shoving it in their face 🤣

[cyan lotus]

Yeah I’m not the hugest fan of overdrive, no FSE sucks and the faster bring up speeds change the timing for everything even without that factor, although situationally, being able to spam infinite lock-ons isn’t horrible

[fresh bear]

Having a saw as a true weapon again and not just an ammo tool is very cool. I did a few DOOM 2 chainsaw only runs and it was fun

[reef ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/army-of-darkness-evil-dead-ash-groovy-gif-25791428

[zealous crag]

Yeah like if you dont just fight in a corner and use everything including the arena design you see how much thought was put in it

[sleek ermine]

Like how did I get that many hours on BTD6

[reef ocean]

The slayer should say groovy when he gets his saw shield.

[grizzled thicket]

isnt fse the thing that makes pb and balista faster cause that still does happen

like pressing the bind and punch canceling

and it shoots faster

or am I misremebering

[cyan lotus]

The thing that makes things like sticky bombs and rockets come out faster yes

[fresh bear]

"UMF"

[weary current]

wasn't this the same deal for 2016 or smth

[grizzled thicket]

that does work on the cheatcode tho

[reef ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-hammer-mjolnir-mjollnir-thor-gif-20768085

[cyan lotus]

Punching can apply FSE regardless of the bring up speed of the weapon that’s receiving it ( which is why SSG punch swaps are so fast ), but outside of that it shouldn’t be

[reef ocean]

I can imagine the slayer doing this if he had sentinel hammer as well. But mace will work lol

[zealous crag]

The shield, Mace combo is going to be dirty

[fresh bear]

Gn chat

[grizzled thicket]

gn

[grizzled thicket]

so it shouny work on overdrive

[cyan lotus]

No

[grizzled thicket]

welp if it does it does

and please id don't change it please

ID SOFTWARE DON'T PATCH THE SPEEDRUN CLITCHES AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[cyan lotus]

FSE isn’t an originally intended feature anyways

They’ve hardly patched anything in regards to glitches themselves it’s mostly just putting invis walls up or adding more enemies/waves to arenas that previously didn’t have them

[grizzled thicket]

yeah yeah but still

[cyan lotus]

the strangest change of all, to me, is putting a delay on loading checkpoint

you could load checkpoint pretty much instantly at the start but around 2.0 they made it so you couldn’t, main menu was still instant so still the same in terms of IGT, then in 5.0 they decided to put a 3 second delay on main menu after a checkpoint is reached

Who’s that benefit, idk?

[grizzled thicket]

the stragest thig is that I can't use the go back thingy that u get at the end of the level

[cyan lotus]

prior to 2.0 you didn’t need to complete all arenas to activate fast travel you could just reach the end of the level

so you get things like sequence breaking in arc, fun

[grizzled thicket]

so now days u need to do every encounter for it to work, but even then it does not work for me cause all the secrets are locked away

cause the doors wont work or something else

[hollow sandal]

I wanna play doom the dark ages guyse

[frail bloom]

We're almost there

Almost...

[hollow sandal]

@frail bloom what platform are you gonna be playing on?

[frail bloom]

Ps5

[hollow sandal]

Solid

[formal root]

I need that game to come out already

[hard thistle]

shouldve just been a content creator

then you wouldve got to

[hollow sandal]

yea rip

[gilded lake]

so true

[plain iron]

Real and trie

WE GETTING THE SCRIPT CHAT

[harsh egret]

trailer tomorrow

(me when i lie)

[plain iron]

Real

[grim cloud]

trying to get a playslit off all good quality no comentary footage

think i hav them all but i bet there is more

[hollow sandal]

Is there anychance you could share it with me?

[wooden acorn]

I just remembered something
The demons in eternal will infight with each other but they don’t do any actual damage to each other, do you think they’ll bring crack classic infighting in this one?

[hard thistle]

If players are able to bypass combat sections by letting the demons kill each other then I'd imagine not

[wooden acorn]

so sad

[weary current]

i wanna bash some demons in with the shield-saw already

[fleet spruce]

we're like 38 days away

[wooden acorn]

erm it's 39 🤓 ☝️

[hollow sandal]

Forreal bro, its gonna be so fun

[pallid wing]

I keep watching more and more gameplay videos. Breaking down everything we know so far. Game is going to be so good.

[fleet spruce]

yeah , i especially wonder how things will change towards the end from gameplay side because from what I have seen there's gonna be tons of various upgrades

[slender onyx]

if they give doomguy the demonic crucible in the campaign i'll SCREAM

[hard thistle]

they're bringing back the classic imp design so maybe theyll add classic infighting too

maybe it'll just be for show though like when the player enters an arena it can see some demons infighting and it does do actual damage but when they see the player then they cant anymore

[empty ridge]

There seems to be a variant of the Imp Stalker

[plain iron]

It is.

[empty ridge]

It's the same but it doesn't shoot and just goes invisible?

[fleet spruce]

Nightmare imp , i like how mean and intimidating imp stalker looks, very much in line with D64

[frozen shuttle]

So close, yet so far until I can play dark ages..

I’m so hyped

[fleet spruce]

same

last time I was excited for a game was in 2018 when Doom Eternal was revealed

[sly girder]

does anyone know who is this new ahzrak guy 💀

[placid saffron]

They're new

[plain iron]

Evil guy presumably

[graceful lion]

its prince asscrack

[plain iron]

We do get to see his ass, and it's so funny

I think it's optional, but to be fair it is a 18+ game lmfao

[frozen shuttle]

Crazy

[patent citrus]

I bought it on my PS5 but it says I have to wait 37 days 13 hours 26 minutes and 35 seconds

Just to play it

[plain iron]

Yes, it's not out yet.

[patent citrus]

What

I thought it was out

[graceful lion]

wait what i thought that was a fuckin joke 😭

[plain iron]

Unless hoard is pulling our leg, it's true.

Wouldn't be too weird tbh

[graceful lion]

you think it's round or flat

[plain iron]

Flat as a board.

[graceful lion]

true

you can hear his hips clanking with his bones when he walks down the stairs

would be the first time we see a demon booty in doom no?

or atleast, the most humanoid looking

or morelike, that booty is made to look at

[plain iron]

Clanking like metal pots and pans.

[graceful lion]

fuck yeah

doomguy : do you have a rack or are you just happy to see me

[plain iron]

Ahzrak: cup of metal utensils yeeted at doomguy

[autumn dawn]

Cyberdemon walk sound intensifies

[vagrant path]

I still think the nudity is gonna be commander thira

[graceful lion]

yeah, mods exist

[autumn dawn]

we're gonna get those weird playthroughs with her wearing something skimpy

the yt ones

[graceful lion]

once mods for the game come out

but i feel like its probably not gonna be too popular

these games never really had any actual nudity before, and there wasnt really any sexy or hot character, atleast humanoid looking

and she probably would only show up in cutscenes and shit, not really an npc that can walk besides you

[autumn dawn]

some of the female ARC Complex employees looked attractive though

[autumn dawn]

i'd like her to function similarly to the sentry bot in Doom 3, the one that walks beside you and automatically attacks enemies without being targetted

[graceful lion]

i'd like to do all the work

as markiplier once said, one versus a million

[autumn dawn]

well to be fair, Doom 3 was harder in terms of ammo management, the reload system, and enemy attacks in general

[plain iron]

It's not lmfao

Genuinely it's not

Going off the rating system here, if it was female nudity, it would've been classified as sexual nudity

While the rating here doesn't even mention nudity

[autumn dawn]

i never saw any nudity in the ratings

[plain iron]

That's what I mean, but apparently, according to hoardmode it's a evil man who is exposed, just his ass :p

Id software is ridiculously good at not sexualising the women

[autumn dawn]

with these modern ratings, classic Doom would be rated with nudity due to...

clap clap clap clap
roket roket roket

[plain iron]

Oh it is lmfao

Or, it's rated as M, which can include nudity

[autumn dawn]

decino refers to it as "the cyberdaddy's glutes"

staring at that word makes me pinch the bridge of my nose

[plain iron]

@warm ibex
"An enemy character can appear nude in one sequence. Aside from buttocks, there are no details of nudity shown"

This is from one of your videos, I think it was the music one, would you mind supplying a source?

[plain iron]

I think you are projecting.

[autumn dawn]

i'm pretty sure shirtless men isn't considered nudity, just the bottom half

like 99% of doom's demons don't wear pants

and their buttocks are usually visible

[plain iron]

The only nudity that's been hinted at, is of a male. There is no reliable evidence for it to be Commander Thira. Lowkey folk should stop sexualising women

[plain iron]

God I hate those mods. GO GOON ON YOUR OWN TIME jfc

I don't wanna look up Commander Thira for art references and get flashed by tits dawg.

[autumn dawn]

i basically experience this when looking for references of samus

[plain iron]

Genuinely it's so annoying

Thankfully it's not a issue with Olivia

[autumn dawn]

but tbf she was sexualized since her debut game

i don't even find Olivia's hairdo attractive

[plain iron]

The issue with Olivia is that noone has any good photos

I fucking love Olivia.

[autumn dawn]

we are worlds apart

[plain iron]

Probably doesn't help that im a ex-lesbian lmfao

[vagrant path]

Why'd you feel the need to ping me twice lmfao

[sleek ermine]

hold up

[autumn dawn]

🖐️

[sleek ermine]

both of you said lmfao in two different sentences semt directly after each other

[plain iron]

I was reiterating my point.

[autumn dawn]

coincidence? i think 𝗻𝗼𝘁!

[sleek ermine]

Don’t be that guy who thinks every woman in a video game should be oversexualized

[plain iron]

I like the design of Olivia due to the fact it's not sexual.

I fucking hate games that do.

[vestal dagger]

doom 3 dlc moment

[autumn dawn]

i still remember hearing about people dissing The Last of Us for their 13-14 year old that doesn't look attractive enough

[vagrant path]

I mean I was just saying it as a joke idk why people gotta get heated over it

[plain iron]

Jesus.

[plain iron]

It doesn't sound like a joke. That's why.

[autumn dawn]

Metroid is fine since samus is usually seen inside an androgynous suit

[plain iron]

Shit like that is why we don't have memes.

[vagrant path]

She looked so uncanny in comparison to everyone else

[vagrant path]

brother it ain't that serious

[plain iron]

It is to me dawg.

I don't like it when I see women get sexualised.

[vagrant path]

🤷‍♂️

just cause I joked about it don't mean I support it

[plain iron]

Well it really isn't fucking funny.

You didn't sound like you were joking.

[vagrant path]

okay?

[plain iron]

You didn't indicate you were joking. And you wonder why folk are upset?

I get it if it was a clear fucking joke.

[vagrant path]

you're the only one getting seriously upset.

[autumn dawn]

i'll go finish my drawing brb have fun

[plain iron]

I'm expressing my opinion and my dislike for games sexualising women. I'm not upset.

I was additionally correcting you, due to you saying something that is so far, false.

[fleet spruce]

discord drama

[vagrant path]

the most boring kind of drama

[plain iron]

Ah yes. Someone taking offence to you wanting, or at least implying you want a nude woman in a game.

[vagrant path]

not what I implied but okay sound off mate

[plain iron]

Someone saying something completely wrong, with no evidence supporting that, usually means that they want that to happen. That's how I view it.

[vagrant path]

don't waste the brain power arguing I really don't care for it.

[plain iron]

Genuinely why do you think it's Commander Thira.

[vagrant path]

I was just joking like I said?

it isn't that deep

[plain iron]

It doesn't look like a joke. It doesn't read like a joke.

Quacks like a duck, looks like a duck. That's a fucking duck.

[vagrant path]

joke didn't land then alright, but I don't need a lecture on how I'm a bad person for that.

[plain iron]

Anwyays chat, I think the kreed maykr won't actually get hurt in TDA.

Skeddadling away type shit.

[vagrant path]

the what makyr

[fleet spruce]

The fat one

[autumn dawn]

his name spelling is officially kreed maykr?

[reef ocean]

Can't believe they would show off doomslayers biceps and the dark lords impeccable physique. How dare they.

[plain iron]

Mhm, according to hoard tbh

[vagrant path]

icon of ass

[autumn dawn]

question is: are doom slayer and davoth women

[reef ocean]

Just messing around 😉

[reef ocean]

intern guy say 'doomguy'

[plain iron]

Transguy... transguy is real....

[autumn dawn]

he's literally the only character in the franchise to call the Slayer "Doomguy"

[reef ocean]

should be illegal being that dumpy.

[silent surge]

so hi yes good morning

[silent surge]

i have seen things that i can’t speak of here, not by want, in terms of what the community has created for DOOM art

those that haven’t think you’re meme’ing and joking and whatever

but no, this is very tame compared to what truly exists

[plain iron]

I've seen it.

[silent surge]

i’ll never see the khan maykr and a baron in the same way

or knowing what they’ve done with samuel hayden and others

[plain iron]

Trust me I've delved deep into those sites for art studies.

[silent surge]

i haven’t, and still have seen some things

don’t go exploring either. or don’t trust twitter

[plain iron]

It sucks that they're usually so high quality dawg. The anatomy is on point

[vagrant path]

I don't really feel one way or the other with it

is just art

[plain iron]

I see it as that tbh

It doesn't really bother me, it just makes me wonder why humanity decides this

[vagrant path]

horniness

or boredom

two constants that will never be extinguished as long as man (and woman too) have access to the pen and paper

[final dune]

I really wish they would give us a story trailer or something

Like the games a month away

[harsh egret]

i'd expect a trailer very soon, maybe this week, and a launch trailer a week or so before launch

[mossy geyser]

We don’t know but there is one thing I think

While we will get more Doom, this is the last game for at least 3 years

My hypothesis is that Dark Ages is where “a story can’t end without a beginning”

[fleet spruce]

Should probably expect 2 DLCs for Dark Ages as well

[mossy geyser]

Not only is the weapons more creative yet very old style but

[fleet spruce]

the whole cycling thru weapon category thing is very quake 1, weapons themselves are also unusual much like first quake

[mossy geyser]

This backs my point

Like it is chronologically the first game yet it is the last game of the revival era

[fleet spruce]

My 2 cents are that purple dimensions is most certainly connected to Quake

[final dune]

I hope so

[pallid wing]

2 shambles stuck in a room together made the strogg.
What if a shambler and baron were stuck in a room together?
Revenants and mancubii most likely...

[graceful lion]

like literally

what the fuck is the appeal in seeing that shit in a game

like cmon bro both ur hands are already occupied, fuck are you gonna do

[plain iron]

And then they're also the chuds who cry about "muh immersion" when it comes to something being slightly unrealistic

[plain iron]

Like??? What even is the appeal. I don't get it 😭

[graceful lion]

personally i just always hate seeing the characters in games i like being sexualised

[plain iron]

Like I'm not happy to see ahzrak's ass bcs Haha sex no I just find it fucking hilarious

[graceful lion]

i dont hate the people that do it, i couldnt care less about them, i just dont really wanna remember these characters and think "oh she got her ass blown out", or "this guy is a MONSTER in the sheets"

[gilded lake]

asscrack the demon lord of hell

[graceful lion]

erm achtally he is a prince

[plain iron]

It's ass humour, not gooning

[graceful lion]

prince asscrack

haha look at his ass

[plain iron]

It's being immature as shit and it's great

[graceful lion]

its like pranking someone by just quickly pulling their pants down and running away

except u dont even have t odo that

[plain iron]

Haha ass

It's also funny to me bcs that means some poor sod had to actually model and texture it

[graceful lion]

imagine they put that on their portfolio 😭

"modeled Prince Ahzrack's rack from DOOM: The Dark Ages"

[plain iron]

"Hi, I'm the guy in id software who had to model a dude's ass."

[graceful lion]

nah, prince ahzrack's rack

🔥

[plain iron]

Ima bet that the poor guy also did davoth lmao

[sleek ermine]

Hmm

[graceful lion]

the only person to be asked twice to make ass for a not goony purpose

[sleek ermine]

Prince ahzrak or prince asscrack (sorry I just felt like doing it)

[graceful lion]

old joke

"uhh hey dave, we're gonna need you to make another ass, the first one was really good"

[plain iron]

Imagine coming to work and having to sit down and stare at references of a dude's ass 💔 would be the funniest thing ever to explain to your significant other

[graceful lion]

imagine hugo just came to cheer people on, looked at your screen, and just complimented it 😭

[plain iron]

I'd fucking cry.

[graceful lion]

"that's a nice ass, keep it up"

[plain iron]

"Nice ass dude."

VRO 🥀

[graceful lion]

"you did this before, haven't you"
☠️

i'd have an aneurysm on the spot

[plain iron]

Oh the hiring process would've been fucking brilliant.

"Hey so have you modelled a ass before"

[graceful lion]

😭

imagine u check linkedin as a texturer/modeller then u see Id Software is looking for an "ass maykr"

[plain iron]

LFMAO

[graceful lion]

or imagine having the interviewer coming in and saying "hey!, you must be the new ass maykr, welcome"

with a straight face

[plain iron]

I'd jump out the id software building

[graceful lion]

i'd hang that up as a quote on my wall

[plain iron]

Stealing the shieldsaw on the way and running but still

[graceful lion]

i would just sink into the foundation of the building very slowly

[plain iron]

My social anxiety having ass would rather die or break my legs trying to get away than experience that. I'd be mortified lmfao

[graceful lion]

true

[graceful lion]

that person would become like the person who modeled and textured the reaper leviathan

until now, no one knows who they are

[barren iron]

I find it funny that in Doom Eternal, we're told that basically Doom Slayer's entire existence is to murder anything and everything he feels needs to die, yet his base is outfitted with a gaming PC, record player, he has a fairly extensive library collection, etc. The Slayer is much more cultured than we are led to believe

[graceful lion]

he probably uses linux too

something like DOOM Linux or something, he made himself

[barren iron]

He would totally be oen to use linux

[vagrant path]

the only times I really want nudity is like

prehistoric type stuff or horror

cause the nakedness fits those sorta things

[graceful lion]

likely gonna be toggleable ig

[vagrant path]

like you can't tell me you wouldn't be scared shitless if some crazy murderer was chasing you with his dongle hanging out

[slender night]

In a game it'd be hilarious

[vagrant path]

like outlast 2 for example

the heretic enemies, those things genuinely made me uneasy and they were just naked people covered in clay💀

[vagrant path]

anatomically accurate imp nutshot glorykill

[wooden acorn]

Day 74 of 112

[vagrant path]

PLEASE

[wooden acorn]

Soon

[hard thistle]

I have no opinions on nudity in games.

Okay, well, I do. I think the objectification of women in some discussions like this or regarding women is weird.

But at the same time I don't like the almost puritanical mindset around sex/nudity in media as being weird or freakish. I'm not saying it has a place in Doom, this is more about the general mindset I see surrounding all sorts of things - i.e. "oh my god, that sex scene totally ruined the movie!" or "sex scenes / nudity are always unnecessary," etc...

Art will fundamentally tackle the human experience. The emotions humans go through, the experiences they go through, the actions they take with others. Sex isn't exempt from that.

[plain iron]

I don't care for it personally, I view it as usually, artistic nudity. But when it's painfully obvious it's for gooner purposes, I have a issue with it.

I jokingly say that if you're gonns sexualise the women, at least sexualise the men as well

[hard thistle]

"Ugh, that sex scene was only there for the sake of being horny." Well, yeah, and sometimes it can be out of place, but at the same time, arousal is part of the human experience. It's like tragedy or love or hate or a vague sense of unease. Movies are meant to make you feel all sorts of things - why would arousal be an exception, if it's in the right context?

[feral bane]

You see a lot of demon ass in these games

So that and many other things would hopefully scare off the puritans lol

[plain iron]

Exactly, it is still artistic nudity when it's trying to convey a point, gooner content genshin. isn't telling a story or a point.

[hard thistle]

True. If they had balls they'd make you see Slayer ass too. But alas.

[feral bane]

Nudity being a common trope in hellish environments goes back a long ways in fiction anyways

[plain iron]

Closest we got is the idea of it in 2016 smh 😔

[gilded lake]

hey at least davoth ass exists

[plain iron]

Oh and davoth's bare model lmao

[hard thistle]

I can also agree on this. Outlast 2 is my favorite of that series and the Heretics IMO were terrifying.

[feral bane]

Been reading the Divine Comedy, and the nudity on display in the Inferno is implied or stated many times.

[plain iron]

Sexualising women? Nah we gonna somehow manage to put 3 dudes asses in it 3 games, one's just not visible

[feral bane]

And many popular conceptions of hell stem from Dante’s work

So yea

[plain iron]

Which is fascinating to me, the doom writers do have ideas from Dante's divine comedy, iirc that's where the term seraphim was popularised, bar from the bibble itself

Another interesting thing is that seraphim are perceived as the colour red [due to what they represent]

Which to me explains the whole robes thing they seraphs in TAG have

[graceful lion]

no booty slayer 💔

[wooden acorn]

Give us an option to make him butt naked I think it’d be funny to see it in cutscenes

[topaz magnet]

Mods exist

[graceful lion]

thats also rtue

[wooden acorn]

True

I saw that

[vagrant path]

huh wdym

[wooden acorn]

He is neither

[slender night]

The 2005 movie has tits in it lol

[grim cloud]

dark forest, oh and its abyssal ... extra layer of scary and otherworldly.

there is also a prowler in the concept, but that doens't mean prowlers are in the game

[fading crown]

does anyone kwons how to change weapons very fast in controller?

[delicate grotto]

Better for #doom-2016 or #doom-eternal discussion, but to swap fast on controller you gotta remember the layout of the weapon wheel. Hold R1 to open it, flick to the weapon you want. You can lower the time in milliseconds it takes to open the wheel so you don’t have to wait for the UI to pop up at all. It just takes practice. There isn’t any other way.

[fading crown]

I thought I was on those channels. I've been doing that for a long time but I just now feel it very slow to show up. Thanks anyways

[wheat sigil]

bind some of your weapons

[delicate grotto]

Yeah unfortunately we’ve only got the wheel to work with. The more you practice swapping the easier it’ll get.

There aren’t many open buttons to bind. Iirc Doom 2016 doesn’t let you bind any on controller but I could be wrong. Haven’t played the game in some time.

PC is just easier

[fading crown]

yea that's why I buy the new one for pc

[wheat sigil]

you can easily bind 3 things

[fading crown]

i'm very excited for the soundtrack and the game

[fading crown]

really?

[wheat sigil]

yes

if you're prepared to sacrifice the crucible, which most players do anyways

[delicate grotto]

Same here. Don’t think quick swapping will have much of an emphasis as Eternal, but it’ll still be good to have keyboard shortcuts

[fading crown]

so you change the crucible botton for a weapon?

[delicate grotto]

That’s what I mean, you’ve got to remove some features to make room for weapons. Perfectly fine, just not everyone wants to.

[wheat sigil]

yes

[wheat sigil]

you can bind 2 weapons without removing anything

[delicate grotto]

Yeah 2, that works I guess lol

The D-Pad right?

[wheat sigil]

true, but people do often overstate how much easier it is

[wheat sigil]

idk where you wanna have you weapons bound, i'm a pc player

[delicate grotto]

I agree, it’s not that much easier and in all honesty the higher framerate might make it harder in some instances. Just in terms of swapping weapons, it is easier

[delicate grotto]

There’s 2 open buttons there. Two are used for switching between the flame belch and ice bomb.

[fading crown]

well I guess i'll try it out later. Anyways i hope dark ages has a good gameplay. For what i've seen, it looks awesome, people overreact abt the new difficulty

[delicate grotto]

For sure. The slider “debate” is ridiculous lol. I get wanting a finely tuned experience, which there will be. id didn’t remove the difficulty options, you just got more freedom to create your own experience.

[fading crown]

yeah, they just made it for all players, all dooms are like that, but some people find very fast the doom eternal gameplay, but with these new feature anyone, even the ones with less experience can play

[delicate grotto]

It’s odd how some of the playerbase wants to gatekeep Doom from the casual fans. A Doom for all players is a great way to expand the fandom. It doesn’t take away from anything, just lets people enjoy it how they want to.

[fading crown]

I also see that this new game feels like ultrakill and god of war put together

[delicate grotto]

Yeah I can see that lol

[fading crown]

Imagine if you can parry your own shots in dark ages

i mean, it wont happen, but it would be awesome

[delicate grotto]

Not sure if it’d fit the direction of this game but I do love that feature in Ultrakill

[fading crown]

yeah
soundtrack is looking so good

i dont get why people hating that much

[barren iron]

I'm so confused as to how the new assault rifle works

like mechanically, as a firearm

[delicate grotto]

Yeah I’m super excited to hear the OST for this game

[barren iron]

also the new combat shotgun looking like a bastardized winchester model 1887 is so sick lmao

[fading crown]

yeah, but for me, its weird that it changed that much

[warm ibex]

From an age ratings board, I'd have to go back and find it. All sources are linked in the descriptions of my videos, so you always have instant access to everything without having to ask!

[delicate grotto]

This entire game is sick. Art direction is fantastic. Favorite, with 64 as a close second.

[fading crown]

but i love it

[barren iron]

I really need to play through the classic dooms

it also looks like they've made mancubus's significantly less annoying in TDA, in Eternal they're insanely annoying

or it's just the fact you have more ways to combat them that makes it a bit easier

[delicate grotto]

They’re a lot of fun, but I’d recommend playing them in short bursts. Take a break after every episode/ chapter. If you play them all in one go you’ll get burnt out.

Doom 1, 2, Final and 64 all play pretty similar. As fun as they are. Although the level design helps keep it interesting.

[fading crown]

in eternal for me they were the easy demons to fight

they didnt cause any trouble in my runs, just pain elementals

[barren iron]

I kind of also screwed myself at first because I unlocked micro missiles first instead of the scope, completely forgetting it's insanely important for Mancubuses

[fading crown]

but missiles arent that bad, also you can kill really fast mancubus with almost any modification

even without modification

[barren iron]

I also suck lmao

I am not gud

[wheat sigil]

micro missiles are probably better than precision bolt if you're a newer player

in the early game, you can destroy weak points with explosive barrels, heat blast, blood punch and sticky bombs

[fading crown]

i still suck, but the thing is you have to be creative

[barren iron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZA8rc6vhcw&t=2s

easily the best siege level gameplay, it's sad they made him take the full thing down

[wheat sigil]

this is actually very true

being creative can go a long way

[barren iron]

does anyone else just constantly say "get wrecked nerd" while playing lmao

I talk shit to demons like it's a CoD lobby

[fading crown]

now with the parrys, it will be better

[fading crown]

me too

i also do ragequit

[wheat sigil]

i always stay completely silent unless i'm in a vc

[cobalt fog]

https://tenor.com/view/a-minecraft-movie-jack-black-gif-7692324063253142650

[cobalt fog]

I sorta did but it was less of shit talk and more of me just being very happy like a kid and Lego set as I performed a glory kill

[slim tulip]

am I the only one hating on mandatory ray tracing in this game? like cmon, you really have to put effort to actually see it
I don't say that the game looks bad, it looks gorgeous, but I think that ray tracing should be optional(even though it wont be, bcs of IDs game engine for it)

[cobalt fog]

I don’t mind its existence but when a game offers it I never use it

Because when I do

https://tenor.com/view/nope-computer-crash-meme-help-complamation-gif-20724408

[barren iron]

I don't mind it if it's done well, and ID has shown a particular aptitude for implementing it, because it doesn't wreck frames as much as other devs using it.

[slim tulip]

Im still a bit disappointed with system requirements

[fading crown]

me too, I probably wont be able to play lol

[slim tulip]

my pc is barely minimal requirements for it LOL
that rly hurt

[fading crown]

I'll will have to tell my friend to let me play it on his pc

[hollow sandal]

Yea I can't play on pc, it freakin sucks

[rare flax]

Me too, I have a problem with the vram... I have only 6gb

[hollow sandal]

I need to upgrade anyway

[slim tulip]

I got a feeling that they will be on gamescom 2025

perfect opportunity to promote themselves even more and bring more hype

[rare flax]

In eternal 6gb are like a lot but in Doom TDA.... it will be a problem

[slim tulip]

Im mad mostly because ray tracing is the main reason the system reqs are so high