the-dark-ages

[blazing lion]

This engagement made me chuckle.

[warm ibex]

the day of doom is upon us

nine hours and forty-five minutes left!

[fair elk]

Man can't wait to see some full-arena battles. Hopefully we'll get to see the player a little challenged so we can fully appreciate the new combat system, plus we wanna hear the new tracks!

I hope the doomguy face on the hud has improved though and not just a blue mesh...

[zealous crag]

Will ID also release something themselves ?

[hard thistle]

May the Dark Ages bring us crazy new gameplay and the aggression to 1v1 the universe!

[neon perch]

It's been finished already.

You can see a glimpse of it in the footage.

[fair elk]

Oooh, I'll keep an eye out for it today then.

[nova spear]

Did the trailer release

[sleek ermine]

there was a trailer 9 months ago

[nova spear]

No I'm talking about the one that's supposed to release todsy

[fleet spruce]

Uh

In like 5 hrs

[sleek ermine]

there’s none confirmed

[fleet spruce]

footage or something

[nova spear]

But everyone is talking about one

[sleek ermine]

misinformation

[fleet spruce]

Rumors actually

[nova spear]

Actually none of that is true

In X they said "keep an eye here tomorrow for press hands-on impressions and new gameplay"

[plain iron]

It's not a trailer. It's just more gameplay.

Maybe a few reviews.

[prime sentinel]

Yes there is going to be a bunch of footage from this event

[plain iron]

The game is finished, they're probably sending out the copies to retailers now

[prime sentinel]

No one said anything about a trailer

[plain iron]

It takes like a month for anything to get here in Australia it's kinda funny

[prime sentinel]

And people thought the game might have been delayed, ha

I knew it wouldn’t be delayed

Because my dad works at Nintendo

[plain iron]

I didn't think it would be either

[prime sentinel]

They were so confident with the date in the 11 minute gameplay reveal I knew they would make it

It was probably very nearly finished at that point

[plain iron]

I wouldn't be surprised if it was finished, and these last few months were just sorting things out legal wise

[prime sentinel]

Probably polish

[plain iron]

Mhm, rigorous play testing I presume

[prime sentinel]

Id’s games are always super polished, can’t wait to see some near final build gameplay

[plain iron]

They do polish their games well.

I am very excited for more gameplay

[prime sentinel]

It’ll probably be that castle level we’ve seen a lot of but I’d love to see a level we haven’t seen yet

But I guess some stuff needs to be left a secret for launch lol

[plain iron]

I hope we get a cutscene...

[prime sentinel]

If we get raw footage of the gameplay at the event there’s no way there won’t be a few

They said they played for hours

I’m gonna assume they got to play at least 1 full level

[slender night]

id games are so polished they softlock your save file out of 100% on console if you use mission select before beating it ☺️

[prime sentinel]

Skill issue

🧀

I play on pc and both eternal and 2016 are some of the smoothest most polished games I’ve ever played, not that it’s bug free

But they generally feel insanely polished

[plain iron]

Mhm, bugs are in every game

[slender night]

DOOM games are buggy but only if you look for the bugs

Like I bet the person who discovered you can slow down Pinkies to a state where they can't move didn't discover it on accident

In Classic DOOM

[prime sentinel]

Yeah classic DOOM has very few bugs the average player would know about

A lot of the bugs are internal stuff that most won’t even realize are bugs

And a lot of the other bugs happen to be really helpful to vanilla mappers lmao

[slender night]

My favorite bug is what I mentioned but with the opposite effect, speeding them up, because at some point they get so fast the game freezes

[prime sentinel]

I didn’t even know that

[placid saffron]

They activated za warudo

[prime sentinel]

I like when you bounce off of walls when running at certain angles

Because of how momentum works

[plain iron]

Pinky accelerators... new energy form...

[prime sentinel]

Also rocket eating walls, that’s a nodebuilder thing, I’m sure it happens in the IWADs at some point but I can’t think of an example rn

[placid saffron]

Eternal's worst "bug" was probably when they turned off chainsawing mid-jump fodder, which made your chainsaw ignore a fuckton of fodder

Esp mecha zombies which had a tragically slow jump animation

Yes i know where talking classics

[slender night]

#videos message

I wonder if there's any mods that utilize the slowdown or speedup

[harsh egret]

less than 3 hours

[winter sun]

I'm actually really glad they're slowing it down for Dark Ages. I love Eternal to death, but I feel like it bordered on too fast sometimes. The addition of sliders is really nice.

[plain iron]

Agreed, as a person with a processing disorder, it's gonna help with that whole thing man I love accessibility

[prime sentinel]

I think slowing it down was a good idea, I don’t think it’s that it’s gonna be such a slower game so much as actions per second will be lower

In TDA I think a lot of time will be spent weaving around projectiles

simpler arenas because the obstacles are the projectiles

Projectiles being slower will actually lead to dodging being harder since much more will be active at once

Creating bullet patterns

[meager vortex]

classic doom projectiles

[prime sentinel]

At least that’s the impression I get

[prime sentinel]

Yeah exactly

[fleet spruce]

exactly what they're going for

[meager vortex]

we play DOOM 2016 and eternal demon projectiles is fast

[prime sentinel]

Yeah but you don’t have to worry about them and where they are like in classic doom

[meager vortex]

shield saw is amazing i think

[prime sentinel]

All you need to know in eternal and 2016 is you move out of the way of a projectile and it no longer matters

I wonder if like classic doom you can dodge a projectile but then move faster than it and still get hit lol

[meager vortex]

DOOM2016 run and gun eternal jump and shoot

DOOM THE DARK AGES stand and fight

[fleet spruce]

I like how they quote that Davoth line

[meager vortex]

dark lord princes?

he is hiding his own shield

[fleet spruce]

"Stand and fight, Slayer." Is something he did say in TAG 2

[meager vortex]

yes

even dlc1 easter egg there are shield saw cube mini boss fight

and armor part from helmet look like a dark ages

[fleet spruce]

the what

don't remember such easter egg

[meager vortex]

you can find it

[plain iron]

Can we get a source dawg I've never heard of that

[meager vortex]

dlc 1 there are some kind cube thing attack right? night sentinel guy make a shield saw hologram

[fleet spruce]

oh you mean the trial of maligog

isn't that just a shield

[meager vortex]

it is shield

match the puzzle you can see shield hologram

that shield have a blades

that is coming soon from dark ages

[spare panther]

its not the shieldsaw its just some big ol shield with a spike in the middle

[frail bloom]

Less than an hour boys

[sterile sage]

40 minutes

[warm ibex]

Here we go

[meager vortex]

yes

[prime sentinel]

I’ll be a bit late to the party because I’m hanging with a friend but I can’t wait to see it when I can

[vapid lodge]

RELEASE

The Kraken!

[sterile sage]

Can you upload a reservation video in advance?

[warm ibex]

You mean like a premier

[vapid lodge]

Nah he means to upload from now and then change to "public" as soon as the hour starts

I think

[warm ibex]

Oh! I've had the video scheduled for nearly a week, it's ready

[balmy escarp]

I'm a bit out of the loop, does anyone know when the gameplay will drop or where?

[warm ibex]

It's not one gameplay video, it's press previews across a handful of content creator channels and gaming news organizations (like IGN)

[sterile sage]

thank you

[harsh egret]

drops in 33 mins

[balmy escarp]

Ah alright, I appreciate it, do they have any release times or is it just kinda random?

[balmy escarp]

Okay, sounds epic

[harsh egret]

cant wait maaan

[meager vortex]

me too

[balmy escarp]

The new artwork cover they revealed is honestly the coolest we've seen so far imo

[warm ibex]

I'll have one on my channel, but we aren't forced to upload at any specific time. just not before 10am EST

[balmy escarp]

Can I get a link to your channel?

[vapid lodge]

@warm ibex hey Horde, how much do you agree with the spoilers from the reveals and trailers? You would you rather see it all in game first?

[balmy escarp]

Oh wait, I just realised you're literally horde mode gaming

[plain iron]

Ima be fr I was kinda suspect of the art, looked slightly ai ish, but looking closer it seemed fine.

[balmy escarp]

My mistake

[harsh egret]

hahah

[vapid lodge]

Thought the same

[balmy escarp]

Nah ID Software ain't the type to use AI art, I hope
Especially after how much they are flexing their artists concept arts and the artsyle of the game

[boreal jay]

The hype is real gentlemen

[warm ibex]

I don't mind the trailer spoilers! I've accepted that spoiling most of the game for myself is just part of the job lol

[vapid lodge]

Fair nuff

[warm ibex]

no worries at all lol

[harsh egret]

its the lightning mainly that makes it seem like that, but i can promise u its aint ai

[plain iron]

Mhm, ik but you never know. I really didn't expect Activision to do that, but they did.

[balmy escarp]

Activision would totally do that

[plain iron]

Not the Activision I knew as a kid 😭

Ai is fucking balls

It can barely support itself.

[sterile sage]

you have to upload it now to get the views, but it's too bad.\

[slender night]

Activision used to be cool. DOOM 3, Wolfenstein 2009, Spider-Man, etc etc... now it's mostly crap. Except for Spyro and Crash obviously

[plain iron]

Exactly.

[warm ibex]

To be fair they didn't make most of those games

Just publishing and dev support

still awesome though, absolutely! much better than they are today

[meager vortex]

that is they job

[slender night]

When you're a publisher the stuff you publish is very important to your quality as a brand

Though at the time they also didn't have sexual harassment scandals every other Friday so

[warm ibex]

that we know of

[slender night]

That's true

[plain iron]

w h a t

[slender night]

But it's been so long I doubt that if something happened then it wouldn't be in the light now, especially with how many people were coming out about this stuff a few years back

[slender night]

Though Activision's involvement in all of these has caused some sort of legal problem for the brands in question lol

Because Activision just loves to lose the rights to the cool stuff they publish

[vapid lodge]

Forget about all the problems
Just play Doom
Its a testosterone boost
No woke
Only overly manly man content

[plain iron]

Great. The best way I can get my hormone replacement therapy.

[vapid lodge]

Soon Ill finish the cosplay

[meager vortex]

1ominutes left

10 minutes

[slender night]

Just dawned on me this is only the SECOND prequel id has made

[devout cove]

Hypeeeee

[slender night]

Feels like it'd be more

[delicate grotto]

Is there gameplay being revealed today or something? Not caught up on the latest Doom news

[hard thistle]

In 8 minutes there's supposed to be a bunch of new gameplay dropping

[delicate grotto]

Where can I find the stream/ video this is supposed to be showcased on?

[warm ibex]

various content creators and gaming news outlets

[hard thistle]

From various youtubers and press, Allstin has a video coming

[delicate grotto]

Oh gotcha gotcha

Sweet

[harsh egret]

its happening

[warm ibex]

the big day!

[vapid lodge]

Pls no spoilers pls no spoilers

[frail bloom]

5 MIN

[sterile sage]

go go

[meager vortex]

2 minutes

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-god-its-happening-ok-stay-calm-the-office-gif-6091046

[plain iron]

Hrr does anyone have a link for any channel that's gonna have jt

[hasty anchor]

Can anyone tell me where to watch

[frail bloom]

Just watch any live channel

[harsh egret]

mayo is gonna have a vid, horde, allstin

midnight

many ppl

[rugged hill]

Wait where are you guys watching this?

[hasty anchor]

When will they be allowed to release their videos

[harsh egret]

well u guys enjoy im gonna go watch

[frail bloom]

Im watching on xbox era

[harsh egret]

hf everyone this is boutta be good

[rugged hill]

I wish joel could get a review copy lol

[final dune]

So where do I watch

Me doesn't see anything yet

[devout cove]

bro who do i watch now, theres so many

[slender night]

Life's hardest choice

[harsh egret]

holy fucking shit

[delicate grotto]

Yeah this shit looks insane

[harsh egret]

HAHAHAHAH

[delicate grotto]

I’m gonna hold out on watching the rest though. I don’t want a lot of it spoiled for me. What I’ve seen so far is sick though.

[boreal jay]

Oh god it looks so good

[harsh egret]

oh shit tyler mcvicker has a vid as well gonna watch after horde's

but yeah i cant believe what im seeing

[simple mist]

The peak ages

[frail bloom]

THERE ARE GLORY KILLS

AAAUUUGHGHGHGHGHG

[simple mist]

Dont want too many spoilers but it looks hella good

Gonna definitely feel like 12 inches of slayer

[rugged hill]

Oh thank god theres actual glorykills

[warm ibex]

And they're awesome!

[simple mist]

Yep yep

[delicate grotto]

I couldn’t help it. Had to watch it. Looks incredible.

[simple mist]

PRE ORDERING XDDS

[plain iron]

THERES A CYBER MANCUBI EQUIVALENT FUCK

[frail bloom]

Im glad I'm alive

[simple mist]

Real

[hard thistle]

i like the goofy ragdoll animations of the titans

[hazy mist]

This looks like so much fun

[plain iron]

THERES A CYBER VERSI9N OF THE TITAN.

[delicate grotto]

Honestly from the gameplay I looked at, any concerns about this game have been eased.

[frail bloom]

Looks fast and has traditional glory kills

[delicate grotto]

Parrying looks a little repetitive/ overpowered though, but it’s hard to say from not playing it myself.

[hard thistle]

welcome back Quake 4 vehicle sections

[warm ibex]

But it's much easier to deal with this time!

[simple mist]

It lowkey was always easy for me

But..that's just me lol

[warm ibex]

even easier than before

parrying does tons of damage to enemies

[hazy mist]

Is the gameplay video the same on all channels?

[frail bloom]

Wheres the nightmare imp

I didnt see it

[plain iron]

cyber mancubi are easier than regular ones for me.

[warm ibex]

no, we captured our own gameplay

[simple mist]

May cant come soon enough

[nova spear]

Gameplay looks so good

Release the game sooner bro pls

[frail bloom]

Where is it?😭

[warm ibex]

two can be seen at 4:13

[harsh egret]

THE MANCUBUS SHIELDSAW GLORY KILL I CANT LOL

[final dune]

New trailer too?

[frail bloom]

May you send image?

[warm ibex]

I can try lol

[frail bloom]

Thank you!

[slender night]

Nightmare Imp!?

DOOM 64 mentioned...

[pine terrace]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InxDX0_7Gpg

[warm ibex]

Yes! I'm so happy they're back!

[slender night]

Now bring back the Spectre Caco

[hasty anchor]

What’s everyone’s thoughts so far????

[warm ibex]

Am I allowed to post my preview in this chat? I know you have a rule against self-promo, but I feel like this classifies as news as well

[rugged hill]

Okay im so on fucking board lmao

[simple mist]

https://tenor.com/view/ggst-elphelt-elphelt-valentine-guilty-gear-guilty-gear--strive--gif-15774969657406111103

[pine terrace]

you may

[hasty anchor]

It looks way way more intense than I was expecting. Fucking awesome

[warm ibex]

thank you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PLrSULM3bo

[hasty anchor]

Love your content, @warm ibex!!!!!!

[warm ibex]

thank you!!!

[hasty anchor]

❤️❤️❤️❤️

[pine terrace]

Feels faster than eternal.
Fell for trailer syndrome again, I keep thinking the trailers make the game slower than what I like

[simple mist]

Wait...faster than eternal? And the game has a speed modifier

[hasty anchor]

The gameplay sure looks fast enough by default lmao. All the complaints about it being slow will be put to rest

[warm ibex]

the trailers make it seem so much slower

and more grounded

[pine terrace]

Which is likely on purpose so we can actually see what's happening

[harsh egret]

people seemed to have forgotten how slow eternal was in trailers and stuff

compared to how you play it

[frail bloom]

Do you think the dragon segments will improve later on?

I can't have anything negative in this game?!

[hazy mist]

And that’s without sliders I assume

[delicate grotto]

They still look fun to me. It’s up to personal preference

[hard thistle]

permanent chrono strike

[hasty anchor]

right

[fleet spruce]

looks incredible, can't wait for may

[sly dove]

Content creators also got full versions of some tracks (at least you can hear full version of Unchained Predator in Tyler McVickers vid)

Wondering would we get it before game release or no

[weak imp]

I dont need more spoil but...BUT...my hype is...Explosif...

[winter idol]

trailers feel slower too cause if 90 fov

[warm ibex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1182151938314358856/1356274669661192325/image.png?ex=67ebf8b7&is=67eaa737&hm=44e88b2a86e27a9425d92f36d379667cc755109ad99247b9a9df535d4d799607& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1182151938314358856/1356274669933695058/image.png?ex=67ebf8b7&is=67eaa737&hm=3492fec8d0d1c0ce74b3b9334436f3ad0db6b41f46361a2e836911d86b08017e&

[delicate grotto]

What’s the consensus on the music? I haven’t heard an opinion yet.

[frail bloom]

Oh my god

[rugged hill]

nightmare imps baybeeeee

[warm ibex]

Here's the Nightmare Imp. They don't normally have that electric glow, that one was being electrocuted by the Twin Accelerator

[rugged hill]

i like the reaver chainshot gun HOWEVER

pls let it have an upgrade where I can yoink the demons to me so i can beat the piss out of them

reverse meathook in this would go so hard

[fleet spruce]

dunno about general consensus but the more is revealed the better it sounds

[fair elk]

I saw one of the teaser videos on Twitter by TAG and the Slayer Grunt sounds really good like they're brand new recordings and are really visceral. You can really hear the pain

[plain iron]

... I might need to get the game on steam and rip those files. For scientific reasons. [Gonna dub a comic w em]

[hazy mist]

Glad there actually are glory kills

[fair elk]

I saw one on the Pinky, and it was face melt

[plain iron]

The majority of doom games don't have glory kills

[hazy mist]

One chainsaw kill on the Mancubus was straight down the middle

[delicate grotto]

True. There’s like, what, 7 mainline games? Of those 7, only 2 have that mechanic. Now 3 with TDA.

[fair elk]

Literally ripped the heart out of the Pinky from the side and squished it in front of the Pinky's face after a 3 second pause 😂

[delicate grotto]

I like the way they’re returning though. Complements the game’s melee system.

[woven jolt]

@warm ibex did you play the latest version of the game?

[hazy mist]

The shield dash into melee up close seems really satisfying

[fair elk]

The one I heard was the major damage that brings you down to red health alert

[slender night]

1, 2, 64, 3, 2016, Eternal, what's the 7th?

[boreal jay]

Bro that chained spike gun looks insane

[delicate grotto]

Ultimate Doom (TNT and Plutonia)

[warm ibex]

It was the latest stable build, I presume. I only experienced two bugs/glitched throughout my 3.5 hours with the game so I'd say it's very close to finished

[slender night]

Ah I see. That's Final DOOM though

[delicate grotto]

Oh wait you’re right, mb lol

[warm ibex]

Something I neglected to mention in my preview is that traditional glory kills are seemingly activated by jumping

[plain iron]

what

[warm ibex]

the pinky decapitation, mancubus split and tyrant split are all three activated by jumping while delivering your final melee strike

[winter idol]

dark ages looks exactly what i wanted from the next doom game back after i finished eternal, like down to ability combos instead of weapon swapping, its perfect

[woven jolt]

what's the WORST part about the game in your opinion?

[hard thistle]

Holy shit Nightmare Imps from 64 are back?

[warm ibex]

they are!

[rugged hill]

i wanna see the archvile tbh

[woven jolt]

what difficulty did you play?

[hard thistle]

What are the classic Imps like? They're here alongside the modern, scrawnier ones, right?

[warm ibex]

yeah both appear together. The classic imps are called Imp Stalkers, and they're boarderline heavy demons

definitely the strongest fodder class I went up against

[delicate grotto]

I wonder why they devolved then

[hard thistle]

I've got several questions. I'll have to watch your video and then send the questions here if that's alright.
In the meantime do you have the name for the enemy that is a rider and the mount they're on? Is the mount some sort of Pinky?

[warm ibex]

the mounted turret segment, hands down. you stand in one place and mow down waves of fodder/heavies, it would be like standing in one corner of an Eternal arena and using the chaingun with infinite ammo. I played on UV with mouse and keyboard until recording, I then switched to controller on HMP

[warm ibex]

Pinky Rider

[hard thistle]

Oh fuck yes. It's another Pinky subspecies. Fuck yes.

[frail bloom]

THERE IS 22 LEVELS?!

[warm ibex]

It's awesome! The first heavy demon you're introduced to, I believe

[warm ibex]

oh fr? where does that info come from

[harsh egret]

yeah 22 levels is crazy

[harsh egret]

tyler mcvicker

[frail bloom]

Did you see any other new demons?

[hard thistle]

Where is the 22 level shit coming from?

[frail bloom]

Tyler mckvicker

[woven jolt]

I assume you're talking about the dragon

[frail bloom]

It's true

[harsh egret]

tyler mcvicker got that from his hugo interview

[warm ibex]

no, mounted turret

[winter idol]

i was worried the dragon segments would be a bit bland

[harsh egret]

at around 1:40 in his vid

[warm ibex]

oh nice! I'll have to watch tyler's vid later

[warm ibex]

I didn't care for it

I can see the potential as things progress, but the segment I got to play didn't tickle my fancy

[winter idol]

yea it looks too simple

[frail bloom]

Where's the archvile?😭

[winter idol]

dodge and shoot

[frail bloom]

And baron?

[frail bloom]

Hopefully there's more too it

[hazy mist]

Is the rapid fire/burst shotgun a weapon mod or straight upgrade?

[harsh egret]

tyler straight up said who the woman from the dev direct is 😶

[plain iron]

WHO

[harsh egret]

bruh

[plain iron]

WHAT IS SHE

AM I ALLOWED TO HATE HER

[hard thistle]

Do we know anything more about the fat Maykr guy from the trailer?

[plain iron]

The chonkyr..

[frail bloom]

He's the creed makyer or somethin

[harsh egret]

ye i think horde mentions his name if im not wrong

[plain iron]

WHAT

[warm ibex]

straight upgrade, the combat shotgun doesn't have an alt firing mode. the "mode swap" button swaps to the SSG

[plain iron]

OH MY

[warm ibex]

Commander Thira

[plain iron]

AHRGRGRGRHRHRG

[frail bloom]

I WANT TO KNOW IF THERE ARE MORE DEMONS

[plain iron]

Feral hours.

[woven jolt]

@warm ibex did you play any sections with loads of enemies on screen? like where the skull crusher was killing dozens of fodder

[hard thistle]

I've gotta know more about this Maykr guy.

[harsh egret]

yeah im surprised yall were allowed to say that lol since you mentioned story stuff wasnt really shown in the demo

[slender night]

Commander Keen returns

[plain iron]

Horde when i get you

[harsh egret]

im sure its nothing too big but yeah

[warm ibex]

We can talk about everything we played! Just can't show stuff

[harsh egret]

we also know who she relates to

[plain iron]

WHO

[hard thistle]

Did any other classic demons show up like the classic/nightmare Imps?

[harsh egret]

u sure u wanna know

[plain iron]

I'm gonna bite you.

[frail bloom]

Yes did any other

[warm ibex]

There were some solid segments that had quite a bit of fodder, but I didn't spend a lot of time with the skull crusher

[harsh egret]

how do u put things into spoilers in discord again

[simple mist]

That ball gun was funny

[plain iron]

|| on either side

[fluid nacelle]

how dynamic does the melee finisher thing feel?
like does it matter alot which angle you melee from?

[plain iron]

Make sure the words are touchingb

[silent surge]

today is a good day

[harsh egret]

the girl is ||king novik's daughter||

[silent surge]

commander thera?

[harsh egret]

DO NOT CLICK unless u wanna get spoiled on that

[frail bloom]

allstin, are you gonna talk about the soundtrack?

[plain iron]

YEAHHHHHHH LETS GO I like her now.

[hazy mist]

It looks super fun to use

[frail bloom]

And if there are any other classic demons?

[silent surge]

in time. there’s a ton to talk on for sure

[hard thistle]

omg im spoiled now

[harsh egret]

yeah

[warm ibex]

Not that I noticed. I believe the only enemies I fought against that haven't been fully revealed yet are the Nightmare Imps, Stone Imps (which are green now, and aren't the grey hairy modern imps), armored Mancubus, moral Mancubus, moral Pinky, banner Pinky and the Hell Tanks

[harsh egret]

i felt at least like that was so randomly dropped as sort of a big spoiler but maybe its not idk xd

[silent surge]

i hadn’t come across that info

[plain iron]

I wanna hold her hand.

[harsh egret]

tyler mcvicker mentioned it

[warm ibex]

tyler and the gang got hugo interviews since they couldn't play

[hard thistle]

Is the normal Pinky just the mount Pinky but without a rider or is it a separate design?
What are Hell Tanks?

[frail bloom]

Where my boi da archvile?😭

[woven jolt]

are there more guns than eternal?

[delicate grotto]

Probably less

[frail bloom]

Where da baron😭

[silent surge]

who is ||the mom|| i wonder

[plain iron]

Dead.

[hard thistle]

Doomguy

[sterile sage]

Pls give me Full slider difficulty play

[silent surge]

ahh so it’s not olivia pierce okay okay

[plain iron]

YEHAHAB

[silent surge]

there goes that idea

[plain iron]

no she's a lesbian wine aunt can't you see

[harsh egret]

LMAO

[gilded lake]

king shit

[warm ibex]

all pinkies have mounts, as far as I'm aware. The Hell Tanks are literal tanks that shoot high-damage orbs. They have a high damage tolerance but are very weak to their own parried projectiles

[silent surge]

olivia was a total karen

[plain iron]

Who likes kissing women.

[sterile sage]

Is full slider very difficult?

[plain iron]

No woman has a side shave like that if she doesn't kiss women.

[hard thistle]

Hell having tanks is wild. Are they, like, stolen Sentinel tanks? Could you describe how they looked?

[delicate grotto]

I’m glad the only negative thing that came from these demos are the dragon sections. It’s not egregiously bad, just a bit bland. If that’s the biggest critique for this game so far, I’ve got high hopes. Game already looks better than Eternal to me.

[warm ibex]

The full roster seems to be the Combat Shotgun, Super Shotgun, Accelerator/Twin Barrel, Reaver/unnamed secondary mod, Rail Spike/Shredder, Skull Crusher/unnamed secondary mod, and Rocket Launcher/unnamed secondary mod

[warm ibex]

I show them in my video!

I'll send a screenshot though, one moment

[harsh egret]

22 levels filled with more secrets than ever before, am i dreaming

[woven jolt]

so I guess the guns probably just have more depth to them instead of the game having more guns

[lusty delta]

2-22?!

[harsh egret]

yep, twenty two

[lusty delta]

Oh yeah I'm definitely pre ordering

[harsh egret]

im gonna grab my collectors edition from the shipment storage rn

[lusty delta]

Last I pre-ordered the game was good

[harsh egret]

omw

[sterile sage]

How hard is a full diff slider?

[grim cloud]

infromation overload

[lusty delta]

I'll get the deluxe

[grim cloud]

not even sure wherei should start

[delicate grotto]

Doom is the only game franchise I preorder for.

[grim cloud]

re the vidoes sharing b roll or they each gameplay from their respective player?

[harsh egret]

people who were at the event in person afaik have their own as well

[lusty delta]

It's a shame the clockner probably won't like the game since he whined about doom eternal's platform sections

Probably

[fluid nacelle]

oh did they say there were 22 levels?

[harsh egret]

LOL theres secrets also when u play with the dragon and mech

bro what is this game man

[lusty delta]

How many hours y'all think the games are going to have?

[delicate grotto]

That shit was funny.

[lusty delta]

24, 28?

[harsh egret]

they said 1 hour levels are the sweet spot, but first time playthroughs for me are always longer than the estimate

[lusty delta]

DOOM

[harsh egret]

ITS DOOM BABY

[delicate grotto]

Without exploring and just beelining the objectives, probably around 25hrs

If there really are 22 levels.

[harsh egret]

yeah afaik 1 hour for the average player who doesnt go out secret hunting and stuff

[lusty delta]

I've already platinum 16, eternal, now time for the dark ages

[harsh egret]

id not be surprised if my first playthrough is 40-50 hrs ngl

just the way i play games

[lusty delta]

Imagine if the doom slayer was in Helldivers or Gears of war

[harsh egret]

ok so this game does have its own bfg but apparently hugo did not want or wasnt allowed to talk about what it is

[grim cloud]

not sure if i like the look of hte enemey projectiles.

[rugged hill]

if its the actual unmaker

[grim cloud]

so one level on foot was played? was it one of the first levels?

[frail bloom]

I literally check the comments and it's like a wave of people saying that the game looks slow and looks worse than eternal...

Am I missing something like huh?

[harsh egret]

no dash = slower

yeah idk people comment some silly stuff sometimes

[frail bloom]

But it's been only an hour and most of it looks negative

Like what?

[wheat sigil]

haven't watched the videos yet lol, gotta get on that before tomorrow has ended at least

[silent surge]

the comments haven’t played the game.

[autumn dawn]

oh yeah it's March 31st

[grim cloud]

i see multiple sheid type enemies, blue, red and just ... metal spiked?

[silent surge]

i can confirm it is NOT slow, literally the first point i address in my video 😅

[autumn dawn]

did some doomtubers finally get to play TDA?

[silent surge]

and i only played on 100% game speed too. it isn’t slow there

[hard thistle]

Okay, so, watching Horde's video. Putting some analysis points here.

[silent surge]

we did yea, our videos released this morning

[autumn dawn]

link it here dude

[frail bloom]

Yeah, I just can't imagine hating on a game so much that you're obsessed when every video about it drops

[silent surge]

i say try it before saying no to it

[harsh egret]

also people gotta remember this is also done to get tons of feedback and things CAN STILL CHANGE

[silent surge]

i think self promo links are disallowed

[warped swallow]

So I heard that today should be some kind of "first impression" videos? Or was I mislead in some way?

[silent surge]

it’s true

[autumn dawn]

"OMYGOSHOMYGOSH NEW TDA UPDATE VID ABOUT 𝚞𝚙𝚍𝚊𝚝𝚎𝚍 𝚕𝚘𝚌𝚊𝚕𝚒𝚣𝚊𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗 𝚏𝚒𝚕𝚎𝚜"

"wow this game is shit"

[autumn dawn]

is your channel name Allstin or something else

[harsh egret]

they allowed horde to post his video at least, but contact the mods or smth id think

[silent surge]

yep! that’s the one

[frail bloom]

Yeah it just has to be mass sarcasm or smt😢

[warped swallow]

Oh thanks, there are some videos already

[rugged hill]

actually wait. What if the bfg in this is the calamity blade from legacy of rust?

[autumn dawn]

i think calamity blade was literally just the ballista's Destroyer blade in eternal

or rather the DB was based on the CB

[slender night]

The 2020 weapon cannot be based on the 2024 one

[autumn dawn]

oh i thought LoR came out first

[slender night]

Nah it's from last year

[autumn dawn]

i thought it came out in like 2013 or smth

[slender night]

NRFTL was from 2010

That's probably what you are confusing it for

[autumn dawn]

NRFTL

unfamiliar acronym

[fleet spruce]

No rest for the living

[slender night]

^

[gilded lake]

no rest for the living

[hazy mist]

On the gameplay previews?

[frail bloom]

Yes on almost all of them

[hazy mist]

Dang

[frail bloom]

"Looks boring, slow and underwhelming"

[fleet spruce]

It's almost like they didn't watch any gameplay footage there at all

[frail bloom]

I just aill never understand if it's jealousy or if it's mass sarcasm

[harsh egret]

id recommend ignoring them and hearing the opinions of people who actually played the game themselves

cause they say otherwise

[gilded lake]

same,,,,,

[frail bloom]

Yeah, but like it's been less than two hrs like why are they so obsessed if they uninterested?

[slender night]

Or maybe it's just what people think

[frail bloom]

But a lot of it is unfounded, none i found explain themselves, they're like "yeah I'm out"

[slender night]

They don't owe an explanation for why they think this, it's just an opinion

[harsh egret]

like i said, fuck em

and ive seen plenty of very positive comments as well ngl

[frail bloom]

My opinion is that their opinion is not a good one

No constructive criticism either

[slender night]

And that's relevant to this how

I said what I said because you said it's either jealousy or sarcasm, which it doesn't have to be, some people can just genuinely think that

[frail bloom]

Yeah alr

[simple mist]

They gotta touch grass

[frail bloom]

Same happened with doom 3, 2016 and eternal so I'll mind my own

[simple mist]

As the kids say

[simple mist]

EXACTLY

[final dune]

So uhh are they gonna release a trailer too?

[frail bloom]

It's just so weird to say that it's their opinion but if it has no reasoning it doesn't feel important to pay attention to at all

[simple mist]

Yea

[frail bloom]

Like imma just ignore their unfounded criticism

Criticisms like the dragon sections being bland makes sense

They have played it, and say exactly why

[harsh egret]

even if people do call it bland, to me the footage still excites me

[shrewd mountain]

IM CRYING, ITS TOO PEAK

[plucky plinth]

Looking over the gameplay video, I’ll 100% need to tone down the resource count

Seems too much tbh

[frail bloom]

Yeah but maybe when it gets harder in the 22 levels they have, you may need those resources

[shrewd mountain]

I can't wait to see what ultra nightmare will look like, i already beat 2016 and Eternal and I am curious to see if it'll be harder or more challenging

[simple mist]

UN for 22 levels

[hard thistle]

• Doom Eternal's Hell Knights are back, which is interesting and changes up some of the perceived info on the different Hell Knight variants. They have eyes, but otherwise are like the modern Hell Knights.
• New Titan variant had a cycloptic cybernetic eye, which is interesting.
• That spider-looking cyborg dude looks like a fucked up Vagary subspecies. Love its design.

[slender night]

I want them to bring back the OG UN someday but that's not likely with how it's structured right now

[frail bloom]

They played like half the first act outta 3 im pretty sure

[plucky plinth]

I guess I’ll just have to see

[hard thistle]

@warm ibex Hey, could you elaborate on something? You said in your video that the Maykrs are "cleansing the Slayer's mind to make him emotionless." Was this shown in a cutscene? It was previously believed his silent demeanor was because of the Divinity Machine, so this is a change I'd like to hear about.

[plucky plinth]

I’m assuming you can adjust them during gameplay

So I guess I can just adjust as needed

[harsh egret]

yup

[slender night]

Okay if that's true then my guess is starting to develop into being more likely #general message

[final dune]

So uhh are they gonna release a trailer too?

[harsh egret]

prob not today, a lot of content and stuff for people to watch

and prob not this week

[warm ibex]

This was both shown and talked about in-game. The Maykr device that's attached to his Atlan port supplies a constant stream of energy that pacifies the Slayer and leaves nothing in his mind but pure rage. They have him standing motionless on a platform (same one shown in the reveal trailer) while he waits to be deployed in combat, like a weapon

[versed stone]

Is a Switch 2 port for Dark Ages REALLY possible?

[sleek ermine]

So it makes him basically a mindless murder machine

[slender night]

We don't know the specs so we can't really tell

[hard thistle]

I see. You mentioned the presence of other Maykrs in the game and everyone reporting to the Creed Maykr, as well as some Sentinels "disagreeing" with the mind control of Doomguy. Were there any scenes of discussion involving the other Maykrs? Were they drones, or Angels? I'm really curious about this whole dynamic with the Slayer being a "prisoner" of sorts, as it's pretty different from the image Eternal gives you.

[rugged hill]

honestly, hearing that doomguy is kind of this nuclear option for the makyrs and being bound to their will might explain why he has a different suit of armor by the time we get to 2016

[versed stone]

I heard it can run as good as a PS4 Pro. And considering the PS4 Pro was able to run games like Crysis, I think Dark Ages and other games like Serious Sam 4 are a no brainer.

[sleek ermine]

I’ll just leave now since I don’t want to get too spoiled before I play the game later this year

[slender night]

That's a rumor we have no confirmation of

[versed stone]

And hey, even the Switch 1 can run MK1 and Crysis. So maybe they can do it.

[plain iron]

Creed Implies he has something to do w a group/kin/family. So it's interesting.

[versed stone]

The Switch is literally an impressive machine. It has some good looking games like Metroid Prime Remastered and they still run good.

[plain iron]

.... it's like I said. Leader or head of the religious/church-esque maykr caste that the deacons belong to

[warm ibex]

He breaks free for a moment, but they drastically increase the device's energy output and it cleans his mind once more. A few Maykrs (who look similar to the drones) comment on how they can't believe he's capable of surviving the energy surge and that the Kreed Maykr is working on a device capable of holding higher charges. It seems like the Slayer breaking free from Sentinel/Maykr control is a sort of subplot that starts very early on

I believe I saw about three types of Maykrs outside of the Kreed. Two types that looked similar to the drones, they're both capable of using these holographic energy arms to interact with the technology. And a more developed Maykr that reminded me of the Seraphim. All of them can talk

[versed stone]

That said, a Switch 2 port for Dark Ages should come with native gyro, but also have flick stick.

(Same for PS5)

[slender night]

TDA sounds like it'll be good in the plot department... that brings my hype up slightly

[silent surge]

they switch up the spelling to Kreed too

[plain iron]

... that more developed maykr. That's the one we see w the chonkyr

[warm ibex]

Yes!

[versed stone]

Wait, didn't 2016 and Eternal have gyro on the Switch?

[plain iron]

ITS RHE SERAPHIM-/j

[hard thistle]

This is really interesting. Was there any mention of the Seraphim?

You mentioned a "Hell Lord" panicking when he sees the Slayer, as well as Prince Ahzrak. Having some more humanoid, talking demon enemies in the game sounds very interesting. Was Ahzrak the only one or were there other demon characters that had speaking roles, or something like that?

[plain iron]

I'm coping. I need samur in TDA I might cry

[hard thistle]

It sounds like this game is depicting Hell more as a military force this time around, focusing a bit more on intelligent characters on their side of the war.

[silent surge]

there was a Witch too

[plain iron]

A WITCH

[silent surge]

alongside them

[plain iron]

LETS FUCKING GO SCARY MAGIC LADY

[hard thistle]

Yeah I heard about this - I have no clue what that's about. Perhaps the Wretch from 2016's Testaments, if the Wretch isn't Valen like I believed?

[silent surge]

i’m glad we get to see novik too

[versed stone]

Dark Ages should also support Steam Input API too. Or at least have support for the DualSense's features like adaptive triggers on Steam.

[meager vortex]

true victim=demons

[silent surge]

sentinels are iffy on the slayer at the start… they act a bit apprehensive.

[plain iron]

That makes sense

I too would be kinda iffy around a big, possibly Immortal God esque man

[warm ibex]

No mention of the Seraphim, unfortunately. "Panic" might have been the wrong word to use, but the Hell priest and Ahzrak speak to each other about the Slayer's arrival on Kahlim in the first level. Ahzrak is extremely cocky, he doesn't think all of Hell should be afraid of one man. The priest is more grounded, he seems to understand (and sort of fear) the Slayer's power

[versed stone]

Also make flick stick default for PS5 and Switch 2.

[hard thistle]

By "Hell priest" do you mean one of the Deag priests (Ranak, Nilox, Grav)? I'm interested in your wording here. If this is one of those characters, does he look human or is he disfigured like in Eternal? Timeline-wise, the Priests should still be on the Sentinels' side, at least publicly, as they later start working with Hell at the behest of the Maykrs.

[worthy sigil]

How does the game start? Doom Slayer outside of Sentinel Prime? Or in Doom 64? Or is it a secret?

[plain iron]

What does the prince sound like? Is he like. Nasally and "erm achtually" or is he more like samuel?

[versed stone]

Potentially after the Slayer enters Divinity Machine and becomes the Slayer.

[shrewd mountain]

Most likely after the first hell invasion in Taras nabad

[frail bloom]

WAIT IS IT LIKE THE WITCH FROM THE CLASSIC GAMES?

The green witch?!

[plain iron]

THERES A WITCH IN THE CLASSIC GAMES??

[silent surge]

which witch?

[versed stone]

Although looking at the trailer, we see Slayer get wrapped in yellow light and his eyes become yellow. So I assume that means he becomes brainwashed by some faction. Kind of like how Callie was brainwashed by Octavio in Splatoon 2.

[placid saffron]

previews are already saying the dragon combatis repetitive, fucking hate tagged on combat sections

[silent surge]

he has sharp classic demon teeth. he needs braces, and he needs to brush them.

[warm ibex]

Well spoken, has a bit of an accent

[silent surge]

he’s not very nice

[frail bloom]

In doom you can find decorations of a green witch face, in doom zero, you fight it

[plain iron]

Good. Good for biting.

[versed stone]

And who'd be the one manipulating the Slayer? Is it the Maykrs?

[weary current]

the maykrs definitely had a hand in his brainwashing as far as i know

[hard thistle]

Ahzrak being a "prince" is interesting and suggests a more traditional hierarchy than previously assumed. Is he the child of the Dark Lord of the First Age, then? Hmm.

[plain iron]

Like hannibal lecter from the show? His whole accent style or something different

[plain iron]

He has the same robe that davoth had in concept art. Which is interesting.

[placid saffron]

wait are the slowdowns still in the game??? 😭

[frail bloom]

You can turn it off probably

[weary current]

i was thinking of that one vampire dude from baldur's gate 3 when i saw him for the first time
voice-wise at least

[slender night]

Did you get to see the main menu? @warm ibex

[placid saffron]

he's speaking zesty damn

[versed stone]

Seems like a no brainer if we see that kind of stuff. After all we've seen that kind of stuff in games before. We saw it in Doom 3, Wolfenstein, Quake 4, Half-Life, and even Splatoon 2. All in their own ways.

[hasty anchor]

There’s some videos of it just posted.

[weary current]

lmao

[plain iron]

ASTARION????

[slender night]

I only watched like 3 seconds of the previews so I missed it

[plain iron]

God no i can't deal with another angry twink in a medieval esque game

[placid saffron]

me omw to only watch hordemodegaming's video because i have a disdain for big reviewers:

[hasty anchor]

It looks pretty cool but I like the eternal menu much better

[weary current]

the prince ain't gonna be no twink from what we're seeing lol

[versed stone]

And if you see the "gameplay sizzle" for Dark Ages, you'll notice the Slayer's yellow eyes in multiple scenes which I assume relates to him being brainwashed by the Maykrs.

[plain iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278629590797123602/1352977905784852480/33d47379e1863cde41a52e062fbc20c247db3ef5-1.jpg?ex=67ebd7dd&is=67ea865d&hm=79b42eba907820ae39450a2a34fed71901113b43fffea42dcf52bea2e5d278ed&

Same robe

[placid saffron]

reusing concept art is great

[slender night]

What does it look like?

[plain iron]

I fucking hope so I hate twinks so bad./lh

[warm ibex]

The priest is an entirely new character! He looks like a corrupted/disfigured human, I'll try to sketch an image from memory later. Have you watched John Wick chapter 4? The best way I can describe the relationship between Ahzrak and the Priest is by comparing it to the relationship between the Marquis (Bill Skarsgard) and the harbinger (Clancy Brown). Ahzrak isn't some Dark Lord type threat, he's the acting leader that's been tasked with commanding Hell at the current moment. He's cocky, arrogant and already seems to be getting ahead of himself. The priest is there to serve him, but seemingly reports back to a higher power

[hasty anchor]

I’ll get a screenshot for ya hold up

[versed stone]

And again, the one shot of the Praetor Suit emitting yellow light all around him.

[slender night]

Neat, thanks

[shrewd mountain]

I'm personally super excited to see variations of demons appearance and armor, it adds so much to the game and something i wanted since 2016

[hard thistle]

entirely new character
Thank God. Was worried about a retcon for a minute.

All this stuff seems very interesting. I'm gonna guess Ahzrak is commanding but the Priest is reporting to the Dark Lord of the First Age then. A test for him, perhaps?

[hasty anchor]

@slender night accept my friend request so I can send it to you

[hard thistle]

I apppreciate the elaboration. Story is looking real good, and that was one of the things I care about the most going into this.

[slender night]

I did as soon as you sent it

[weary current]

i'm watching the hands-on gameplay now, and there was an armless mancubus standing there like "pls don't kill me" before getting bashed with the shield lmfao

[versed stone]

Speaking of priests. I think it would be nice to see the 3 priests being corrupted at some point in the game. We need to know how they all got to that point besides some in-game text.

[silent surge]

i feel like maybe they saw the criticisms of eternal’s story, and are making sure to focus it here too. the cutscenes feel like you’re watching a movie

[nova spear]

ig thats how he looks like when his rockets are destroyed

[plain iron]

Awh but I like reading :(

[silent surge]

it’s a whole other level than eternal’s cutscenes were

[versed stone]

Or any other events mentioned in Eternal for that matter. Eternal gave us a hint of the stuff happening between Doom 64 and Doom 2016. So Dark Ages would let us see them in full detailed.

[nova spear]

looks so much better than eternals

[silent surge]

codices are still there!

[plain iron]

YAY

[hard thistle]

I'm personally really into this. I know some people don't like the cutscene focus for Doom but fuck them - I am very excited for the in-depth focus on the Sentinels and their culture, and the Hell stuff.

[frail bloom]

Do you read about certain demons?

[slender onyx]

GOTY, nuff said

[silent surge]

when the opener came up i was all wide eyed giddy. it felt like a movie really did

[plain iron]

I want more maykr culture tbh, I want to see what they call music. I wanna see what they call art

[hard thistle]

This discussion of an "alternate dimension" in TDA as Tyler McVicker is mentioning is super interesting. Perhaps it's Drumavi, the alien world mentioned in Eternal's Lorebook.

[silent surge]

some may say it’s a weaker opener. but it has a cinematic… depth… that you will absolutely notice comparing to eternal’s

[versed stone]

Some odd idea I was thinking is being able to change the character's dialogue language in-game instead of having to navigate the game's properties. There's something about hearing different dubs that kinda hit me.

[placid saffron]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/890909009526267935/1356297111053799696/image.png?ex=67ec0d9e&is=67eabc1e&hm=b4ff3efbf2021f05d229963d9aa03f16b9e58422b1cb372da95c0f61f5aa47c9&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/890909009526267935/1356297157732466849/image.png?ex=67ec0da9&is=67eabc29&hm=2c8b4bd16818a1c55c42e19d38b0be29d5cabb38a0eb0ff59105de1bd6170238&
😭 why is the splash so big damn

[silent surge]

pre rendered cutscenes maybe?

[frail bloom]

How is it weaker?

What was different about it?

[silent surge]

i thought it was fine

[harsh egret]

yeah always felt to me like they really upped the quality when it comes to cutscene work and lighting and stuff

[silent surge]

i absolutely thought “i’m not showing my kid this”

[frail bloom]

Can you say what it was?

[placid saffron]

the focus on "depth" tells me all i need to know
the camera will go straight up doomguy's a-

[placid saffron]

IT'S CONFIRMED

[harsh egret]

you can tell when people working on cinematics know their shit

[silent surge]

dlc content

[slender onyx]

does that depth apply to doomguy himself? (if you manage to see that)
it'd only make sense for the increase in focus on story for them to focus on him more as a character, even if it's something small

[silent surge]

there’s one scene that reminded me of a left 4 dead 2 hunter

[plain iron]

Hrr times like this makes me wish I had money for a oled screen.

It is interesting that he's actively fighting the mind control devices.

[nova spear]

i noticed there isnt any music going on while fighting the demons. Do the epic soundtracks appear when you go into a large scale battle or bosses?

[weary current]

same lmao

[silent surge]

imp tackles a human, rips his chest apart. starts eating. guys freaking out. imp runs away. other imps come by. rip off arms and legs all surrounding him together. run away leaving him torn apart.

[placid saffron]

makes sense with the story about the destroyer of the makyrs

[plain iron]

Maybe he was still kinda batshit and they were like "oh fuck that"

[frail bloom]

Huh

[placid saffron]

we're talking about the game, not how your monday went smh

[silent surge]

cutscenes go hard lol

[frail bloom]

How was the music implemented?

[silent surge]

earn that M rating

[versed stone]

Would there also be a way to better optimize the game by tinkering with the files like you could with Indiana Jones? I did hear someone do that for Indiana Jones since they only had an RTX 3060 6G.

[frail bloom]

How many classic references could your ears hear?

[harsh egret]

oh yeah its the part from the beginning of the dev direct

[silent surge]

the music is great, i didn’t adjust any settings so i need to go back and give it a closer listen

[plain iron]

Real question is, is the chonkyr genuinely squishy in cutscenes.

[silent surge]

in full, nasty gore

[hard thistle]

I'm seriously interested in this "Maykrs brainwashing the Slayer" shit. Seems like it will really recontextualize the Slayer's actions and mannerisms in the modern titles as more than just being quiet because of trauma/stoicism or whatever.

[grim cloud]

i hope the game doens't blow its load on monster typesint he first mission. we need new monsters for every campaign level

[harsh egret]

yep, sounds amazing man

[silent surge]

i caught into sandy’s city

[frail bloom]

Is it like 2016 and eternal where it picks up when you start fighting hordes?

[plain iron]

I'd say it's still trauma related, but it would explain his avid hatred to maykrs

[placid saffron]

eternal did it pretty well already so i don't think they'll downgrade, though eternal's overall progression could be faster

[silent surge]

honestly was tough to really pick it apart while i was doing everything else trying to win

need to give it another listen

[versed stone]

And just for curiosity, could there be a way to bypass Ray Tracing and not use it?

[weary current]

maybe it'll be like 2016 where you discover more and more monsters, the further you go on in the campaign

[plain iron]

Still doesn't explain why he didn't kill samur when he was given the chance.

[harsh egret]

they also have a Running from evil one as well

[plain iron]

Because they are husbands/j

[harsh egret]

its great that they kept going with the refferences like mick did

[placid saffron]

also dumb question: is the sprint anything else then just moving faster? like aiming worse, or something

[versed stone]

Why would they even make the Ray Tracing mandated? It's not a good idea. Especially when stuff like Half-Life 2 RTX are terrible.

[delicate grotto]

Gonna suck trying to avoid spoilers when this game launches. Have my finals the same week.

[plain iron]

Because it's actually apart of the gameplay

[placid saffron]

it's easier to develop for because you don't need to bake lights and all that

[plain iron]

Apparently it's used in bullet tracing and the like

[placid saffron]

i still heavily doubt it technically requires a 2060+ though

[versed stone]

Doing that while also sacrificing optimization.

[silent surge]

it seemed normal

[hard thistle]

Also, watching the Tyler McVicker interview and he confirmed the high-tech, UAC-looking levels are basically Argenta factories. He mentions the "Atlan Forge," a facility deciated to research and development for Atlan mechs.

[placid saffron]

i mean technically no, because you can optimize while using rtx
it just won't run on non-rtx devices

[versed stone]

Or curbing those who still have something like a 1080Ti (Looking at you, BMD).

[harsh egret]

@silent surge what specs did you guys play on? and how did performance feel?

[sleek ermine]

Not really

[plain iron]

Mhm, maybe, but there's also a lot of other things it needs to render. Not just the bullet pathing.

[placid saffron]

it's over intelligent designbros
can you atleast just auto-turn it on and use the button for something relevant

[placid saffron]

in regards to just weapons ehhh not really

[neon perch]

Asking the real questions.

[plain iron]

I was meaning the raytracing of the areas itself

[silent surge]

i didn’t check options but i doubt

[harsh egret]

imagine chonkyr pillow

[silent surge]

he seemed squishy and nice

[plain iron]

I need to be able to squish him.

[silent surge]

a little weird with all those eyes moving around

[versed stone]

Minimum specs could still only get you on low settings. But maybe low settings in games nowadays looks actually good and not a blurred mess?

[plain iron]

Big hugs for the chonkyr :3

[silent surge]

played in 4k, was great, idk the specs though

[slender night]

I hope this engine has actually more than two games released for it lol that was fucky

[harsh egret]

neat

[pallid wing]

Just watched the IGN showcase. This game looks really cool.

[sleek ermine]

Was it on a PC or a console

[weary current]

there's a very good chance there will be more than one game on the 8th idtech this time around

[silent surge]

pc

[placid saffron]

@hard thistle from HordeMode gaming's review: apparently some argent d'nur warriors disagreed with the mind control doomguy, pretty cool basis for the startings of the argent d'nur civil war 👀

[nova spear]

the fat one?

[plain iron]

Oh boy I hope they collab w a plushie company to make a chonkyr plushie

[sleek ermine]

Oh. Alright

[plain iron]

Mhm

[hard thistle]

Very, very interested in this. Plot-wise this will probably end up being my favorite game in the series.

[sleek ermine]

You and your Chonkyr

[placid saffron]

finally, a good doom story /s

[delicate grotto]

Can’t wait to get my hands on this game. Nothing about it looks bad imo. Projectiles are a little funky though.

[weary current]

i cannot wait for the amount of crackhead-like speed to come out of this game from some players, as with eternal

[nova spear]

he fr looks squishy, bbut i think were js gonna rip him apart with big fucking guns

[slender night]

We did always have more than one game so I am sure we'll get more than one, I just want more than two

[plain iron]

I'd be using him as a pillow. Like my blåhaj.

Someone give doomguy a blåhaj

[sleek ermine]

Or have some art of him as your profile picture (as with Samur or whatever the hell your profile picture is)

[silent surge]

oh there will totally be players who crank the sliders and do stuff that’s insane

[grim cloud]

still dont like the projectiles

[versed stone]

Did Indiana Jones look terrible on low settings? Like, TF2 on low settings terrible?
Because Dark Ages also will in that case.

[slender onyx]

yall don't know how hyped i got when hearing that king novik will be in this

[plain iron]

Yeah it's samur getting high lmao

[weary current]

😭

[silent surge]

physically we see him. and we see him when he’s piloting a mech

[sharp jungle]

If I were to get the game I would 100% do that

[placid saffron]

i hope the game will actually properly function on those settings but eh

[plain iron]

PHH THADS THE SPECIAL MECH

[harsh egret]

yea

[slender onyx]

HELL YEAH

[plain iron]

AHHHRRR I NEED TO BITE IT

[placid saffron]

which one?

[harsh egret]

the one that shows before he gets the chaingun in his mech

[plain iron]

It had a Cape and it was darker, black and greys.

W gold accents and

[silent surge]

doom 2016 “push this dead body out of the way” vibes are back too, btw 😎

[plain iron]

I'm gonna bite someone.

[versed stone]

But how will he die? Will he just do the ultimate sacrifice like in Megaman Zero 4?

[harsh egret]

yeah no im getting overwhelmed rn, this game is shaping up to be everything i imagined and beyond

[delicate grotto]

Love it

[harsh egret]

doesnt feel real

[placid saffron]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/890909009526267935/1356300416916263065/image.png?ex=67ec10b2&is=67eabf32&hm=71bae95f8035f85cf78f5afd778a8501d05027a96a3b997ad03618cf7eec3458&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=342&height=350
yeah it's sick

[winter idol]

so it seems most people dislike the dragon and mech sections

[placid saffron]

yeah i didn't expect much different tbh

[harsh egret]

huh

[plain iron]

It feels like waiting for Christmas as a child. That's how I feel over it.

[grim cloud]

for me, it just gets in the way of grounded combat

[sleek ermine]

I mean if you have a good flow of income of some sort you can just get it (if your PC is good enough or if you’re running on the latest Xbox consoles) or get some sort of upgrades to your PC/get a new Xbox Series X|S

[delicate grotto]

Not too surprised. I expected them to be a bit undercooked. Though from what I’ve seen, they don’t look bad, just bland. I still think I’m gonna have fun with it.

[hasty anchor]

I actually looks like it’ll be even crazier than eternal on Nightmare +

[placid saffron]

tacked on, radically different gameplay sections just tend to not be as good as the actual main gameplay... it's a shame they focused on it even more then just a single odd section

[sharp jungle]

It's not a money/console issue

[winter idol]

i figured that would be the case when they first revealed the game last year, like they really didnt need to bite off more than they could chew

[sleek ermine]

Okay?

[sharp jungle]

I just most likely won't get it

[delicate grotto]

I appreciate trying to break up the combat sections though.

[plain iron]

I preordered the collectors edition and it's gonna be great

[versed stone]

Give him an epic speech and have him go out like the warrior he was destined to be.

You know, what Zero did.

[winter idol]

yea but its with worse combat lmao

[plain iron]

I'm pretty sure he's still alive.

[weary current]

yeah a LOT of stuff from doom 2016 is coming back here

[placid saffron]

might get the game when it hits 40

[delicate grotto]

And if this is the worst people have to say about the demo, I think it’s shaped up to be a pretty great game.

[delicate grotto]

True… lol

[winter idol]

i just hope they change some of the mechanics of it before launch

[hasty anchor]

My biggest fear is that it might end up being like Arkham Knight with its vehicle sections. For example

[winter idol]

i know that aint easy with less than a month left before gold but still

[placid saffron]

no clue how that game handles it but sounds like that's the case

[delicate grotto]

Damn that’s too bad. What don’t you like about it?

[versed stone]

Well, not entirely. We see a sort of Force Spirit of him in Eternal but that was it.

[placid saffron]

well it's price for one

[versed stone]

We need to see how he got to that point.

[neon perch]

Yeah looking at the dragon/mech segments you can almost immediately realize they aren't going to be as good as the standard gameplay loop.

[plain iron]

... like valen. Who is very much alive.

[neon perch]

Neither looks exactly bad but it's just not what I come to expect from Doom.

[versed stone]

Make him recreate the ending of Megaman Zero 4 and we'll be set.

[delicate grotto]

That’s fair. $70 USD is a lot. I don’t agree with the price modern titles receive either.

[neon perch]

Kinda knew from moment one so it doesn't really come as a surprise.

[placid saffron]

I'm not paying 80, 110 for the full game, for what i still see as essentionally a sidegrade to eternal. Literally no game is worth that money for me

[lusty delta]

If that dragon dies we're gonna riot

[winter idol]

i buy very few games so 70 bucks is worth it

[harsh egret]

here in norway the price of the game converts to 85 dollars btw

[weary current]

also there are SOME glory kills that are scripted animations here, luckily

so we're getting both completely-in-the-player's-control glory kill stuff AND glory kill animations

[delicate grotto]

Doom is the only franchise I pay full price for. It’s worth it to me.

[harsh egret]

with the amount of enemies, it makes no sense to glory kill all of them, it would be so slow and repetitive

[sharp jungle]

Only way I see it might be worth it is like if it's just got that much content that it's worth the price

[weary current]

yeah not all of them have scripted animations from what i'm seeing

[harsh egret]

apart from the bigger guys which it does make sense

[versed stone]

If they pull off a Mufasa, it's gonna trigger many people's PTSD.

[silent surge]

i say try it before dismissing
it’s ok to see content and say it’s not for you, but i feel like some people are going the extra mile and just writing it off completely.

[harsh egret]

100%

[frail bloom]

Thats what im saying!

[silent surge]

this coming from a huge eternal fanboy

[neon perch]

What is this in regards to?

[silent surge]

people had concerns about the game that, if you play the game, you realize aren’t concerns anymore

the menu music is… mmmm tasty

[delicate grotto]

I’m hoping the parry mechanic is balanced. Every fight has at least one green projectile coming at you every couple seconds. Feels like it might trivialize the combat in some instances. Haven’t played it, so I can’t say. Just commenting on what I’ve seen. Still super excited for the game.

[silent surge]

i’ve listened to the official tracks we were sent, by themselves, on headphones, in the car, with my kids, by myself - it’s good

i put them in the videos as a music bed/background, but i didn’t put them in quietly!

[harsh egret]

dude the song they have on the playstation tweet

[delicate grotto]

Sweet

[grim cloud]

im not getting any work done. thankfully im the boss

[harsh egret]

holy shieeee

[frail bloom]

How many?

[silent surge]

lol you either?

[silent surge]

a couple

[frail bloom]

And do they have better tracks up their sleeve?

Whatmdo yiu think about them now?

[grim cloud]

building spreadsheets and watching dark ages videos one after the other

[frail bloom]

How good?

[winter idol]

actually composing the tracks before launch is a smart idea this time

[silent surge]

i’ve liked everything i’ve heard, whether it’s publicly released or just to creators

[frail bloom]

Do you find yourself humming them lol

[silent surge]

and music is a huge part of doom for me, has been since i started my channel

[silent surge]

they’re hum worthy

[winter idol]

like every game, some tracks will be better than others

its all subjective

[frail bloom]

Yes

[simple mist]

Cant wai

Gonna be peam

[scenic lichen]

allstin i saw your video

[neon perch]

HE DOES THE OUCH FACE DOOM GUY DOES THE OUCH FAVE HE DOES THE OUCH FACE HOLY SHIT.

[scenic lichen]

this game looks so damn good

[winter idol]

even if the dragon and mech sections arent great, the base combat looks more my style than eternals

[silent surge]

that’s why i opened it up addressing the controversies and worries, right out the gate

so people will give it a chance

[frail bloom]

Well they aren't great, but they're still good

[scenic lichen]

yeah i wanna thank you for that because when i saw the first 2 minutes of your video i was like this game is not slow at all

[winter idol]

idk why but eternal left a bit of a sour taste in my mouth after i fully finished it

[scenic lichen]

it looks hard but it looks like a diff type of hard from eternal

[winter idol]

it always felt like it could be better

[silent surge]

i’m on 100% game speed, skill 1 for that footage. not sure what the provided b roll was

so this shows that it can work for anyone

i tried a range of UV and down, didn’t hit NM yet but will

[winter idol]

i forgot game speed was a thing

[silent surge]

it’s fine at 100% on skill 1
150% on nightmare will be tasty too

[weary current]

good ol shield n' gun combat, it's peak

[winter idol]

back in 2020 i said i wanted a perminant shield

i got what i wanted

[simple mist]

I loved eternal,but it wasnt for everyone...and that's okay

[silent surge]

you’ll use this thing a LOT

[winter idol]

were there loadouts?

like you dont have all your weapons at once

[simple mist]

Like eternal wasnt a perfect gane

[winter idol]

it definitly wasnt

dark ages wont be perfect either, no game is perfect

[simple mist]

Yeah

[winter idol]

except for hazelight games

[simple mist]

Also ditching multiplayer was a good choice

It really shows

[winter idol]

yup

battlemode was a novelty at best

[delicate grotto]

Definitely playing this on Nightmare

[winter idol]

im going HMP at first cause im a casual

[harsh egret]

from what i heard weapon mods are pretty much diff weapons that go in the same slot on the weaponwheel/hotkey as its original version

[winter idol]

yea i figured that was the case

i like that better than mods

[spare panther]

reminds me of variants from ultrakill, very nice

[harsh egret]

it makes more sense for this game

with less quickswapping and modswapping isnt even needed

[prime sentinel]

I think the load outs will definitely add replay value

[scenic lichen]

im still wondering how the late game for dark ages is gonna look like

like what demons will be introduced

[frail bloom]

Also apparently midnight said that the build they played was 3 months old or smt

[harsh egret]

rly?

i havent gotten to his vid yet

[frail bloom]

Yeah im warching it right now

[winter idol]

demo builds are always old

[weary current]

i'm thinking it's gonna look like absolute war lmao, i dunno how but that's what i'm envisioning going into the late game/climax

[wheat sigil]

i'm honestly not really that interested in any of the gameplay provided

[harsh egret]

one thing to keep in mind is the fact that hugo said the enemy circles were toned down in the newer build, but they were the same in the footage from the creators

so i wonder how they look like now

[wheat sigil]

it will be miles worse than gameplay just a few weeks after launch, and without all the tech that will (hopefully) have been discovered

[winter idol]

i mean, yea, they only got a few hours to play

[wheat sigil]

yeah lol, i'm not blaming anyone

[simple mist]

If they just made doom eternal 2,I'd be pretty bored of it quick

So I'm glad its taking a risk

[shut whale]

@warm ibex did u enjoy the dark ages gameplay, upgrades, secrets, etc

[wheat sigil]

depends on how you define eternal 2 i'd say

[silent surge]

oh man i know i didn’t play well. i was tired (hadn’t marathoned doom in awhile) and was coming off being sick/feeling bad that night/morning

but i’m not gonna fly across the dang country and not play this game

[grim cloud]

so most of the grounded gameplay we see in the video is one level?

[harsh egret]

hahah yeah it was funny to watch u struggle to break the barrels on those heightened platforms with the mancubus

[wheat sigil]

if it just kept the general aspects of fast paced shooter focused on movement and some resource management, it could definitely begod

[simple mist]

Very happy to see the general good consensus on the game

[wheat sigil]

yeah i get that lol, i understand
but by only playing for a limited amount of time, it's impossible to match how gameplay will look even after a few weeks

[silent surge]

it is yea i agree

i was all jumping around like eternal at the start

[warm ibex]

oh absolutely!

[grim cloud]

did anyone get a name for the spider like strogg mechs?

[shut whale]

Is there anything that u had a problem or concerns to the game

[wheat sigil]

fairr, it's gonna take a while to get settled in, and i'd imagine the game will really kick off once tech starts getting discovered

[warm ibex]

unfortunately not!

[silent surge]

it’ll come fast

[frail bloom]

Raitro talked about some shield bash that gave you insane speed

When he was at quakecon last year

[warm ibex]

I wasn't interested in the Dragon and wanted to skip the mounted turret segment. only problems I really had

[silent surge]

yea that’s gonna be used a lot

mouse2 and click enemy ahead

[shut whale]

Really u didn't like the dragon gameplay

[silent surge]

dragon was a little weaker i think

[wheat sigil]

sounds cool, but intended game mechanic isn't tech lol

[silent surge]

i also had skill issue probably

[frail bloom]

No it was like a bug, I don't know exactly what he said but it wasn't intended

But it was cool and they kept it

Paraphrasing here

[warm ibex]

the sprint lets you jump incredibly high into the air, so you can follow that up with a high-speed shield bash to launch yourself into a group of fodder

feels incredible

[warm ibex]

if he was talking about standard shield bashing, that's not a bug

fully intended feature that lets you fly across the arena at breakneck speeds

[silent surge]

the new meathook
use it to go up or down to other areas / enemies

[raven mica]

So glory kills DO exist! Just on primarily larger enemies? Or is just it less optimal on lesser enemies?

[silent surge]

mostly big it seemed

[warm ibex]

it's on everything but fodder, as far as I can tell

[raven mica]

Uwah....i wish i never gave up my dream of being a youtuber purely because if i succeeded it would have meant playing this game early

(This is a lie i much prefer being an animator)

.mgngnhh i fucking love sentinal history so much im so excited to play through this shit

[warm ibex]

I'm very surprised that they haven't mentioned the charged jump officially. While you can't go as high as you could in eternal, gaining a height advantage feels much more immediately accessible than it was in Eternal (even if it has less overall depth)

[grim cloud]

omg collectable toy demons! numbskull better be making them

[raven mica]

The first level you guys got was the siege of taras nabad, right?

[warm ibex]

the attack on Kahlim!

[raven mica]

Oh shit nevermind then

[versed stone]

Would the custom difficulty option just let you have a perma death option on any difficulty?

[weary current]

was kahlim mentioned in any of the previous games or nah, asking out of the curiosity

[delicate grotto]

How much of the campaign did the demo feature?

[raven mica]

Wait, so was that titan in the overview not the dreadnaught?

[warm ibex]

no, of course not! just an armored titan from what I can tell

you'll fight different titan types

[shut whale]

@warm ibex anything new about the female character and wat her role is

[raven mica]

I believe it was stated to be the first ever attack from the demons on sentinel prime. Good place for the game to start

[versed stone]

Would one of them have the ability to evolve to different forms and create tiny humanoid things?

[raven mica]

Awww...i still hope we get to play through the siege of taras nabad and fight the dreadnaught

[harsh egret]

she is the daugher of king novik

[frail bloom]

Do you think you'll like tda more than 2016 or eternal? Based on what you've played and the things you've heard

[warm ibex]

Commander Thira, King Novik's daughter. She seems to command the Sentinels from a fortress deep in the arctic. She's also the one character that expressed some sort of concern over the Slayer being controlled

[raven mica]

Itd be neat to get more info on what the crucible is and why its so much more potent than any other argent weapon

Oh yeah, what do you guys know about the lore so far?

[simple mist]

I rarely pre order ..but tda

I'll probably pre order

[warm ibex]

Yes I do! I think it has the ability to surpass both of them

[raven mica]

I payed fucking 200 bucks to pre order the collector's bundle

[shut whale]

@warm ibex really she is the daughter of king novik 😱. Where did u get this info.

[versed stone]

You mean she's the only one who noticed the Slayer's yellow eyes?

[warm ibex]

No, she's just the only one who seemed to have a problem with it

[raven mica]

Ok wait, i thought the slayer was like, controlled as in put in stasis. So, he's being puppeted at the beginning instead?

[warm ibex]

Novik and the Maykrs believe that the Slayer needs to be controled. No man needs that much power without direction

[warm ibex]

More like directed. He still controls his own actions, but they tell him what to do and he follows orders without question due to the control device

[shut whale]

@warm ibex imagine if novik deems the slayer worthy to marry his daughter

[simple mist]

I'm just happy it's a fresh new combat loop,as opposed to a rehash

[raven mica]

Probably just a coincidence, but if it isnt, that has interesting implications on the invul from dooms 1 and 2, as they also gave doomguy yellow eyes

[raven mica]

Oh, fascinating! I wonder how he'll break free of it when the sentinels rebel against the maykrs

[warm ibex]

One thing I neglected to mention in my preview was that the badass moments are much more natural this time

[frail bloom]

May you give examples?

[raven mica]

Oh goood the more i learn the cooler this game gets im so excite

U dont need to make me more hype id...i already paid u 200 bucks for the game...what more do u want from me

[versed stone]

Would Dark Ages also have a weapon upgrade that shoots out ink? Let's just turn the Slayer into an Inkling.

[shut whale]

I wonder wat kind of relationship Thira will have for the Slayer

[warm ibex]

Absolutely! In my opinion, Eternal's cutscenes often felt like a compilation of talking and hype moments. The Dark Ages does this a bit more naturally - they set up some sort of problem and the story solution is the badass hype moment. They launch the Slayer like a rocket out of the mobile Maykr command stations, which is cool as fuck and seem to happen very often. It's a natural story beat that flows well but still hypes you up before entering battle

[raven mica]

Probably not much of one, the slayer hardly forms relationships.

[versed stone]

She would just be like VEGA somewhat.

[frail bloom]

Is their a version at dooms gate btw?