the-dark-ages

[teal nebula]

I wish I could play this game too

[plain iron]

Why not?

[teal nebula]

I am broke 😞

I wanna cry

[plain iron]

Well, how much is the game for you?

[teal nebula]

My parents never give me any allowance or pocketmoney to buy games

[plain iron]

Ahh

[teal nebula]

Let me check

Equivalent of 70 usd 😞

And I can't afford that price 😭

[plain iron]

Awh

I don't use USD but I can see how it's kinda expensive

[teal nebula]

What's your currency?

[plucky plinth]

70 USD is expensive, but cheap-ish for a game

[plain iron]

AUD

[plucky plinth]

but man, that sucks

maybe once it goes on sale I can see securing you a copy, but I doubt I'll be able to

[teal nebula]

What's the price for you?

[plain iron]

That's a good question lemme check

[teal nebula]

Dark ages on sale?

[plucky plinth]

yeah, that'll be in a few years, though

[plain iron]

$120aud.

[teal nebula]

Sad life 😔

[plain iron]

I got the collector's edition tho

[teal nebula]

Equal as mine

For 120?

[plain iron]

Nup, that's the base version

[teal nebula]

😭😭😭

[plain iron]

I paid 340aud for the collectors

[teal nebula]

I wanna cry man

[plain iron]

You'll get the game

[teal nebula]

How?

By the time I wait for sale another doom would have been announced

[plucky plinth]

I doubt it

it'll be a bit, but not that long

within the first 10-12 months

[teal nebula]

But still

I hate my life

[plain iron]

Well, if you could get like. The equivalent of 10usd for the rest of the weeks until TDA you should be able to get it

10usd a week is reasonable to save, unless your pocket money is less than that

I'm doin the same w my boyfriend

Might just get it for him

[teal nebula]

I don't get any pocketmoney or allowance

I just get to keep whatever is left off from the bill my mom gives me for bringing daily necessities

Which is like equivalent of like 2-3 usd something

[plain iron]

what.

[teal nebula]

Yea

That's how I am living

[plain iron]

jesus

[teal nebula]

This is why I hate my life

[raw relic]

wait till u see last 9 min of teh video

[teal nebula]

?

[raw relic]

seems liek a bigger problem than thumbnail

[heady jacinth]

that sucks, hopefully you can get yourself into a better financial situation sometime soon
plus the games go on good sales at least once or twice a year, especially a year after launch or so
I'll be waiting for a sale as well!

[teal nebula]

Idk what to do

[heady jacinth]

There are places online that might be able to give you better advice than I ever could, especially if you're a minor.
If you feel safe enough to do so I'd recommend having a look for things you can do and planning or implementing them.
Plenty of other people in similar situations and plenty of people who want to help.

[regal geyser]

You can try to get a small job somewhere (idk if you’re old enough to get employed in your country), it doesn’t pay much, but it’s more than nothing

[teal nebula]

It's India you can't get a job here until you have a qualification or any degree or something

[regal geyser]

I’m sorry to hear that, good luck with saving up money for DOOM and good luck with life itself

[teal nebula]

Any help?

[weak imp]

We take TDA the 13 or 15 ?

[hard thistle]

The dock edges

[teal nebula]

What?

[weak imp]

will we get the game on may 13th or 15th?

[teal nebula]

Where are you from?

[weak imp]

France

[teal nebula]

15 if I am not wrong

Have you pre ordered the game?

[weak imp]

I pré ordered à collector

[teal nebula]

Can you help me as well?

[weak imp]

For what ?

Pré ordered à collector ?

[teal nebula]

No base game?

[weak imp]

I dont understand sorry

[teal nebula]

Can you dm me?

[regal geyser]

Not really more than the advice that can be summarized to “get good” at life. The exact process is (I imagine) pretty different per region, so I advise you to ask someone local to you who is economically self sufficient

[teal nebula]

Can you help?

[regal geyser]

The best thing to learn is to have patience, things take time, I know how to get good education in the Netherlands, but elsewhere will probably be very different (European countries invest a lot into the education of their population)

Here you can choose what you want and as long as you can keep up with the tempo you can achieve it

[weak imp]

Do you prefer Davoth's shield or the Slayer's shield?

[plain iron]

Davoth's fr

[placid saffron]

tbh do you even have a PC that can run the game

because if you can't afford the game on launch/gamepass i heavily doubt you have a pc capeable of running it either

[teal nebula]

GeForce now free subscription exists to help me with that

[placid saffron]

fair 'nough

[teal nebula]

Yea

Yk a real gamer tries to find ever single possibilities to clear out the barriers

[placid saffron]

luckily the game won't go anywhere

[winter idol]

Didnt realize they were selling a dark ages helmet

https://gear.bethesda.net/products/doom-the-dark-ages-wearable-helmet-replica-helmet-bundle

[teal nebula]

But by the time another would have been announced

[plain iron]

Oh yeah, I'm planning on getting it on Tuesday [hopefully]

I'm also looking for a cabinet for it

[placid saffron]

Yeah, and? Will the game somehow be worse because of a trailer for a completely different product?
Within the same line, is doom eternal now worse because of the dark ages trailer?

[teal nebula]

Doom eternal is half paid like only horde and campaign is available in base game

[placid saffron]

Yeah and that was the same way on launch, actually it had *less *because horde and MLs weren't there. Only now it is cheaper. Plus that will happen with DA too, DLCs are already confirmed...

plus DE deluxe goes for 17,50 euros, that's a LOT cheaper then on release!

[plain iron]

:D

I'm pretending to know what's happening

[placid saffron]

you don't have to reread a lot

[weak imp]

Eternal didn't get the goaty 2020
I want TDA to get the goaty 2025

[wooden acorn]

Day 44 of 112

[wooden acorn]

Many such cases

[graceful lion]

it probably wont

[sleek ermine]

Because of GTA 6

[graceful lion]

i dont think it will be in the goty choosing at all

[sleek ermine]

[graceful lion]

and i dont think gta 6 will be goty either

[grizzled thicket]

Hatebait

[graceful lion]

why would i bait, i gain nothing from it but negativity

i really dont think gta 6 or tda would be goty

[grizzled thicket]

Thats the point of bait and y do you think that they wont be in goty

[graceful lion]

im not saying the games will suck

[graceful lion]

sure, the doom franchise is popular but it isnt popular compared to other larger titles

im not saying its small, but its not large either

not trying to discredit anyone

[grizzled thicket]

And y not gta 6

[graceful lion]

i can maybe see gta 6, but i feel like its too overhyped

[grizzled thicket]

Gta 5 was one of the highest selling games of all time, so y wouldnt gta 6 be around that good

[graceful lion]

altho both games are probably gonna get their own awards if anything

[graceful lion]

as i said, i can maybe see 6 being there

but not tda

[grizzled thicket]

So you just think it might be a dissapointment

[graceful lion]

we arent that lacking in large crazy games coming this year, there is probably more to come that will take people by storm or someting

[graceful lion]

yeah, or people having expectations too high

[obsidian shard]

DOOM: The Dark Ages will probably win Best Action Game and Soundtrack/ Audio Design

[graceful lion]

i can see that

[grizzled thicket]

Ok that I can see

[obsidian shard]

I could win GOTY if GTA 6 is Delayed tho

[graceful lion]

6 might be best open world or something

[graceful lion]

again, there are probably other titles to come that will take people by storm

[grizzled thicket]

Isnt tda also open wrold

[graceful lion]

well

6 is more open world, thats for sure

[obsidian shard]

No It's Got Open Level Design but it's still linear

And Has Missions

And Levels

[graceful lion]

theres "open world where you can do some side quests", and theres "open world where you do whatever the fuck you want"

[obsidian shard]

THE DARK AGES is still level Based and linear

It's just more open

[graceful lion]

tda will probably have most of the content on main quests and missions

[obsidian shard]

Like A lot more open

[graceful lion]

and gta6 will definitely have most of the content on side quests

[placid saffron]

well how much more open exactly we don't know yet

[obsidian shard]

True but My point is it's still Linear and Level Based like DOOM and DOOM Eternal

[graceful lion]

i assume its gonna be a decent amount more than 2016/eternal's open worldedness

well, ok these werent really open world at all

but 2016 had secret levels and stuff

so we might get multiple rooms (not necissarily secret levels) instead of one or two

[placid saffron]

Yeah it kinda says nothing except individual levels won't be 100% linear every time

[void sierra]

Doom tda will be my pick for goty

[placid saffron]

you haven't even played the game yet

[graceful lion]

this

im not saying you will find tda shit, but it will likely not be the best game you played this year

[placid saffron]

and even if it is: you still can't base that off of unfinished trailer segments where it's designed by a billion dollar team to make it look as good as possible

[grizzled thicket]

honestly for me it might be cause I have only played previous doom games, GoW, alan wake 2 and subnautica

[hot lava]

https://www.instagram.com/share/BASOKfhD69

[graceful lion]

and none of these were published in 2024

[hot lava]

@hard thistle if Hebeth is before the time with the sentinels how is it in TDA

[graceful lion]

nor got a goty award

[grizzled thicket]

yes, so my point stands

[graceful lion]

well i hope you find it fun

[grizzled thicket]

god of war didn't get any awards?

[graceful lion]

game of the year award, not just awards in general

[grizzled thicket]

oh yeah

[graceful lion]

ragnarok also got awards iirc

[hot lava]

Animal Well

[placid saffron]

they're using the same technology as the sentinels used to arrive at immora even though the gate of divum is the only way to reach it

[grizzled thicket]

I mean I haven't played the og or 2018 since forever

[graceful lion]

i did a playthrough of 2018 before ragnarok came to pc, never played the og games

[grizzled thicket]

have u played ragnarok

[graceful lion]

finished it twice

[placid saffron]

i mean "goty" because you only played one game seems...tumultuous 😭

[graceful lion]

and finished valhalla

[hot lava]

Unpopular opinion but it was more over the shoulder slop. The RE2make trend needs to move on

[grizzled thicket]

I'm on ng+ 10

[grizzled thicket]

have 80+ hours in it

[graceful lion]

huh?

it wasnt any sort of remake

[placid saffron]

it's a sony classic

[hot lava]

I am personally sick to death of over the shoulder cinematic corridor games

[placid saffron]

good story, kind of meh gameplay

[grizzled thicket]

but it would be the only one, so how could I say another game

[graceful lion]

if you notice, even in the old games, they slowly put in more and more story

[placid saffron]

this is in contrast to other AAA standard which usually don't even have a good story!

[hot lava]

Alan wake 2, silent hill 2, gow, hell blade

[placid saffron]

it's easier to make a lengthy movie with some meh gameplay inbetween the scenes then to make an actual good piece of interactive fiction

[hard thistle]

I wish gow 2018 didn’t have fuckass walking/climbing sections almost every step of the way

Muspelheim suffered with this

[graceful lion]

well, i found ragnarok's gameplay more fun than 2018's, tho it was kinda lackluster

[grizzled thicket]

what do you mean by corridor games

[placid saffron]

hard to go down sometimes 😭

[graceful lion]

he meant like third person gameplay basically

[grizzled thicket]

dame

[graceful lion]

like camera is over the shoulder

resident evil 7 remake type shit

[hot lava]

There is the bare minimum off the beaten path they are more or less walking in a straight line from A to B with story beats and combat

[grizzled thicket]

isn't doom like that tho

[graceful lion]

wait true

[hot lava]

FPS not OTS

[grizzled thicket]

I mean your oppinion on the matter but I do disagree on the not likng part

[placid saffron]

atleast it's hard to get it worse then the tomb raider remake

that game was a fucking slog

[hard thistle]

I'm unsure. Hayden says Hebeth was from before the Slayer's time with the Sentinels.
My current theory is that you may be running through an Argenta factory they've built on the ruins of the city, rather than the city itself.

Either this or they are just retconning the time period for Hebeth.

[placid saffron]

[hard thistle]

But I suspect they may do something like this re: factories. I suspect the Sentinels use traditional gothic, medieval architecture for towns, cities, palaces, etc ... but their factories, manufacturing facilities, etc... may look more outwardly sci-fi like the UAC.

[graceful lion]

the game seems like it might take place during or in between the time that the slayer was with the sentinels and when he wasnt

becasue it seems like alot of the prominent members from the sentinels know him in the trailer

[placid saffron]

he quite quickly arose to a prominent part of the sentinel army so ofc they would

[hard thistle]

Well it all has to be after he becomes the Slayer at the least, with the Divinity Machine. Hayden says Hebeth fell before Doomguy ever even got to Sentinel Prime but it's unclear if that necessarily has to mean nothing was built on the ruins in between.

[placid saffron]

plus this might (probably will be) post DM too so ofc they'll know him then

[graceful lion]

whats dm?

[placid saffron]

i'm guessing hebeth will just be retconned

[placid saffron]

Divinity Machine because i already saw i was too late to type before mono 😔

[graceful lion]

mmmm, i wonder if the titan we saw in the trailer inside the shielded city is gonna be the same one

[hard thistle]

Nah

[graceful lion]

because in eternal he has a crucible embedded into him

mayb his armor corroded away or something

[hard thistle]

The same titan gets blown up in the mars like city

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-kiss-funny-gif-9399601851536133188

[placid saffron]

i can't remember a titan within hebeth but is 100% my memory

[graceful lion]

i wonder if we will even see waht happens to that titan

like if we will ever embed the sword into him or will it be a later time

[hard thistle]

I'm gonna guess, based on the whiteboard shit, that the siege level is Taras Nabad's shit with the Dreadnought. Eternal acts like the Slayer immediately killed the Dreadnought right after the Divinity Machine but TDA will probably have him be whisked away or something and then spend the first two levels getting back to Taras Nabad to stop the Dreadnought.

[graceful lion]

"ok so we gotta explain shit real fast so u gotta hang in, this ride gonna be bumpier than going 500mph across rocky mountains"

[hard thistle]

The first two levels are seemingly khalim and hebeth in order

[placid saffron]

...we got a level progression teased?

[hard thistle]

Whiteboards and the level concept arts they released was in accordance to the order of levels

[placid saffron]

ah alr fair

[hard thistle]

IIRC at the last video you could see a list of levels on a whiteboard and they listed a few levels. The siege was third, Hebeth was second IIRC. But you'd have to check and be sure.

Khalim then hebeth

[hot lava]

See FPS usually brings verticality and more environmental interaction. OTS you rarely get to jump in any meaningful way. They’re a bit more restricted and story driven. If the story is meh the game is meh. Everyone ranted and raved about Alan wake 2 but imo it was mid. Hacky derivative story and just played exactly like every other OTS of recent fame

[placid saffron]

See FPS usually brings verticality and more environmental interaction
Man if only most FPS studious ACTUALLY FUCKING DID THAT

[grim cloud]

looks like we are getting a PC gamer Doom Dark Ages article this month.

so be on the look out

[humble moon]

does dom dar.k age runs on Intel Atom, 1gb ddr3 ram and 256 hdd

[fleet spruce]

your device will violently explode

[humble moon]

Nuh uh

60 fps ingame

[grizzled thicket]

I can see the alan wake 2 stuff, but I still do like the games but once again your opinion and I'm not interested in argue about this as it will not go anywhere

[placid saffron]

if the story's quality is around control's level then it's really you either like the genre or you probably found it a bit too strange

(control wasn't even that great either)

[humble moon]

If I pre order doom dark ages do I get the action figure?

the mini doom guy

[placid saffron]

you get the statue if you order the collector's edition

[humble moon]

this doom looks like more classic styled idk

the horizontal levels

[summer obsidian]

Morning and evening chat

[grizzled thicket]

night for me

[placid saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-caption-portal-doom-eternal-doom-gif-27618255

[grizzled thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/maruder-tlc-doom-slayer-doom-eternal-gif-20139340

[gaunt depot]

https://tenor.com/view/jon-bernthal-walking-dead-shane-walsh-anteater-meme-gif-6194743974530700185

[grizzled thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-no-no-40k-gif-24271093

[summer obsidian]

Speaking of which an article popped up on my news feed
Named “Doom: The Dark Ages already sneakily revealed its 'new Marauder,'” we do not need bro back

[hard thistle]

The new marauder is the agaddon hunter

[feral vault]

We need the marauders in dark ages

They don't need to be a copy paste of eternals

But I would like to see their lore

Since they are corrupt sentinels and the dark ages is all about the sentinels

[fossil ingot]

Can't wait to go through pain bc of how buggy they will be

[fading token]

So I've heard rumors of the game going back to more horizontal gameplay over verticality is this true?

[woven jolt]

where have you been, lol

[plain iron]

Maybe whoever kidnapped him is tryna siphon the essence of davoth outta or smthn

Trying to pull it out like petrol

[solemn flower]

sad to see marauder hate ☹️ they’re a well designed enemy, the game just failed to articulate how to properly fight them

Hope a marauder-type enemy returns, but then actually teaches the player correctly

[hard thistle]

They were pretty buggy, it's not unwarranted

[solemn flower]

I see, I only played Doom Eternal like 2 years after it released

or however long ago the DLCs came out

yeah in that case buggy enemies get absolute warranted criticism

[fading token]

Too stuck into other games to notice I just got here lolol

[solemn flower]

Both trailers seemed to indicate that TDA would be more horizontal than Eternal, I don’t think we even saw the Slayer jump once (during gameplay) in either of the trailers

There’s still some maneuverability abilities and swimming but that’s all we’ve seen as far as verticality

[woven jolt]

@fading token jumping is still in the game, we saw the slayer jump a couple times in the trailer

[lucid saffron]

finna turn the game speed to max in the settings

i refuse to dodge mancubus projectiles at the speed of a moped

[woven jolt]

lol, but the gameplay was actually slowed down for the showcase

[solemn flower]

I hope we’ll get to see Argent D’Nur before it got its Hell makeover

[lucid saffron]

its still going to happen

[solemn flower]

I’ll set the game to Nightmare and adjust from there

[summer obsidian]

Ya don’t get me wrong they are cool as hell it’s just fighting them was a pain

[frail bloom]

Didn't horde mode gaming say there was a sprint ability, that's good

[ebon shale]

Yeah but I still dont know what people mean by that, because I havent seen a sprint yet

[summer obsidian]

I actually like the slow approach. Makes u feel way more powerful

An abrums doesn’t move at 80mph

[frail bloom]

He said it's something for crowd control

[prime sentinel]

There’s a dash with the shield from what we’ve seen but it looks like it has a big cool down

[frail bloom]

I mean, it would be kinda annoying to walk across these sandbox maps if you were slower

True

I got that sprint info from horde mode gaming

[summer obsidian]

Sandbox? The game isn’t a sandbox. Do u just mean big

[frail bloom]

Oh yea sorry

They're supposed to be larger

[prime sentinel]

Well each level is a sandbox

[summer obsidian]

As long as the automap still exists I’m A-ok with it

[prime sentinel]

They’re more open with optional areas

[summer obsidian]

Sand box means the player can build

[prime sentinel]

No it doesn’t lmfao

[frail bloom]

Whatever it is, it's like classic doom

I love all doomngames btw, I'm not a boomer

[plucky plinth]

Just Cause 3 is a perfect example of your point imo

[prime sentinel]

Sandbox simply means open and with exploration, it has been used in lots of open world games to describe them

Mario 64 has sandbox esque levels

[summer obsidian]

So ur saying something like tabs isn’t a sandbox

[prime sentinel]

It is a sandbox yeah but sandbox does not mean the player can build

There are sandbox games where the player can build but it’s not a requirement

They also did describe doom tda’s levels as sandboxes in the 11 minute gameplay showcase

[frail bloom]

How many demons do you guys think they'll have this time

[prime sentinel]

A couple.

[frail bloom]

Lol

Seriousoy tho, eternal had 30 so types

Cuz I drew some demons I wanna see

Lemme see if there is an art channel

[prime sentinel]

Eh there can’t be too many or it will be confusing, but I’m sure there will be around the amount that is in eternal

[frail bloom]

Oh

I had like 29 written down on my notes

[plain iron]

Loads of demons + maykrs

I hope we don't fight any maykrs

they're annoying asf, and then I'll feel bad

The only maykr I'd fight is the chonkyr

We also need a gauge of how much of the maykr population is transfigured

[frail bloom]

I don't see how we'll fight any maykers

[plain iron]

Eh some folk are saying so

[obsidian shard]

Imp
Classic Imp
Soldier
Shield soldier
Energy Sheild Soldier
Mancubus
Hell Knight
Armored Hell Knight
Pinky
Pinky Rider
Armoured Pinky
Vagary?
Lizard Demon
Titans
Armoured Titans
Cacodemon Tentacle
Arachnotron
Winged Cyber-Demon
Zombies
Unwilling
Revenant
Azhrak
Dragons???
Lost Souls

[plain iron]

Given the whole imprisonment thing

[obsidian shard]

What we Know so far

[plain iron]

I don't think it was the maykrs who imprisoned the slayer in TDA

That would be so dumb on their part

Its seemingly pre-maykr betrayal

[obsidian shard]

Why wouldn't they want to imprison the Person that's rumored to end them

[plain iron]

Ehh I don't think it was that

They're was a "dark person" who was supposed to do so, and the slayer being subjected to the divinity machine might have disproved that for them

Because it was supposed to show said dark one

Iirc

But regardless why would they imprison someone on their side?

The diplomatic relationship between the sentinels and the maykrs would be fucked way earlier if they did that

I think it was hell who was like

Hey lemme just yoink

[obsidian shard]

Everyone Wants to Control The weapon

There's a Explanation by Hugo in the Edge Magazine

[plain iron]

fuck Hugo.

He makes shit more complicated

[frail bloom]

Here's my list, you can fact check it
-Classic imp(1)
-Beast mount(2)
-Beast Rider(3)
-Titan(4)
-Mancubus(5)
-Agaddon Hunter(6)
-Shield soldier(7)
-Soldier(8)
-Zombie(9)
-Revenant(10)
-Arachnotron(11)
-Cacodemon(12)
-Hellknight(13)
-Tyrant(14)
-Modern imp(15)
-Strogg(16)
-Classic lost soul(17)
-Azhrak(18)
-Armored Hell knight(19)
-Hell carrier(20)
-Big arachnorb(21)
-Armored Titan(22)
-Lizard demon(23)
-Cthulhu arachnorb(24)
-Cosmic baron(25)
-serfs(26)
-Acolytes(27)
-Chaingunners(28)

[prime sentinel]

When are there chaingunners?

[frail bloom]

Uh, so this info is from horde mode gaming again

It was the "chai-" on the whiteboard

On one of the analysis vids

Could be wrong

[prime sentinel]

There are lots of chains in this game

[frail bloom]

True

It was below demon names so I guess it's a demin with chains, idk

[prime sentinel]

Why would they betray their creator? The maykrs are assholes

They want to be in complete control

[plain iron]

Because they genuinely believed davoth would hurt a lotta shit [surprise he did it anyways.]

He was batshit

[prime sentinel]

Only because they betrayed him

[plain iron]

beforehand

They found immortality and went "Hey so maybe we shouldn't give this volatile man the ability to make his army immortal"

It's reasonable 😭

[prime sentinel]

We’re talking about the species that discovered soul harvesting right? And wanted to use it for themselves

[plain iron]

Because they too, were scared of death

Transfiguration is apparently incredibly agonising

[prime sentinel]

They’re clearly risk adverse

The doomslayer is a risky character, it makes complete sense they’d want to have him under complete control

[plain iron]

Eh true but they're not dumb enough to risk turning that man against them

[lucid saffron]

and then Davoth made Samur do the fucky wucky and doom their speciese

[prime sentinel]

They turned davoth against them :p

[frail bloom]

Doom lore at it again

[prime sentinel]

Which was a stupid choice

[frail bloom]

Hugo laughing maniacally*

[plain iron]

A reasonable choice 😭 I too, would put that man in a sphere

He was batshit man

He needs to go to a mental health clinic

[lucid saffron]

he was depressed his kids kept dying

thats gotta do something to ya

[plain iron]

literally

Its so sad

[frail bloom]

Am I able to send artwork here

[plain iron]

I hate when folk call davoth the bad guy

[plain iron]

There's a artwork channel

[lucid saffron]

Satan in general is a pretty sad character

[frail bloom]

I sent some decent concept art but the art channel looks kinda dead

[plain iron]

Ehh doom doesn't really follow biblical lore when it comes to characters with the same name

the seraphs

[lucid saffron]

yeah i know

but satan is still pretty sad

[plain iron]

I hate the seraphs so much

Their very name is fucked

[lucid saffron]

doom or irl

[frail bloom]

You should read john miltons book paradise lost

Or look at a wendigoon summary lol

[plain iron]

The plural of seraph is seraphim but noo doom says its "seraphs"

[lucid saffron]

in doom the singular is seraphim :3

[plain iron]

Eh irl they're neat, iirc their name has something to do w fire

[plain iron]

LITERALLY

Pisses me off

[lucid saffron]

If they made angels aliens i think this is a pretty minor change

[prime sentinel]

Davoth is, to me, less deplorable than the maykrs

[plain iron]

I mean, they kinda did anyways

I just want more maykr lore

[lucid saffron]

i love Maykrs and urdak

so peak

[plain iron]

How many maykrs are transfigured? What does it look like for the drones to transfigure?

Because they have blood. Which I presume isn't normal

[lucid saffron]

shoots in the head with 50 caliber rifle
"NYAAAAHHHHHH"

[frail bloom]

The slow down thing is really annoying here

[plain iron]

"Naaa nwaaa"
zipping around

[plain iron]

"AAAAAAAA"
when us

[lucid saffron]

cute noises of death

[plain iron]

The zwoop zworps </3

[frail bloom]

I'm trying to send some stuff but it's like 'nuh uh'

[plain iron]

It's so folk don't spam

[frail bloom]

True

[plain iron]

Most big servers have it

[lucid saffron]

i wish/ hope we get those other urdak dudes

[plain iron]

I wanna see maykr deacons more

[lucid saffron]

the ones that are like battle-drones, the Blood maykr but un-deamofied

[plain iron]

Apparently each world is assigned one, and i wanna see earth's

[plain iron]

Yeah, the deacons

[lucid saffron]

pope francis

[plain iron]

LFNAO

[lucid saffron]

oh mb

[plain iron]

They pulled another samur gah damm !!

[frail bloom]

The stickers are so fun lol

[lucid saffron]

i hope to see more urdak, if not more urdak stuff, and more areas of hell, like they mention the Ubral Planes and stuff like that, or in doom 2016 we go to the Titan's Realm

i wanna see more ghot-dang titan's realm

[plain iron]

I want to see what maykrs consider music

[lucid saffron]

chorus of 19 maykr drones screaming

[frail bloom]

I wonder how finishing move will make a mayker track

[plain iron]

That's so real

[frail bloom]

They have da samples right

[plain iron]

I think it's gonna be like when you get close to those glowing runes in the Holt

They make noises yeah

[frail bloom]

The holt banged bro

[plain iron]

On God

[frail bloom]

Tag ost is so underappreciated

[plain iron]

It was so pretty

[lucid saffron]

i like the OG maykr songs, that weird ethearial hum that sounded like something from Alien

[plain iron]

It's so pretty

[lucid saffron]

or the Khan Maykr's theme, that slaps

[plain iron]

The maykrs play right into my favourite idea

[frail bloom]

Hot take: they all slap

[plain iron]

The divine machine

[frail bloom]

You guys wanna see the stuff I sent

I know it seems annyoing to ask but It's just the hype

[lucid saffron]

also i just realized, isn't urdak just floating in space?

The Holt has some earth but isn't it just floating around there?

[frail bloom]

It could be a different planet

[lucid saffron]

like whenever you look around its just void everywhere, even the Holt just has its land floating around in space

[frail bloom]

I don't see why species or terrain all have to be super different

If it has earth, it has it yknow

[lucid saffron]

but when the maykrs made their stuff, did they just go "yeah screw gravity" and built it in space where it looked all pretty

[frail bloom]

I thought davoth made the maykers

[lucid saffron]

yeah

[frail bloom]

He probably chose the space

And they probably expanded

[lucid saffron]

but there is planets all around the Maykr realm

and the Maykrs just went "nah space is cool"

[frail bloom]

Are they wrong tho

I mean they can fly

Their taste in deco is just too godly for us

[lucid saffron]

their architecture is what my house would be if i could

[plain iron]

I presume it mimics their original environment

The maykrs are rather weird biologically

Untransfigured Samur's dental structure suggests that they are omnivores

The wings despite not really needing them

[lucid saffron]

i though samur's body was due to the transfiguration and not his real body

like how you can see his little c'thulu tentacles coming from beneath his coat

[plain iron]

That's normal 😭

All maykrs have tentacles

[lucid saffron]

yeah

[plain iron]

He was one of the few known untransfigured maykrs

[lucid saffron]

what im saying is all the biology we realy know is of the transfigured kind

[plain iron]

The codex allows us to see what they're supposed to look like

[lucid saffron]

what part

story of the maykrs part 1-42

[plain iron]

Any that show a maykr 😭

Samur's one might be good

[lucid saffron]

man i aint booting up my Xbox for this

[plain iron]

I can't see em rn either, I'm replaying TAG 2 on extra life mode

[lucid saffron]

GIVE ME URDAK MASTER LEVEL OR GIVE ME DEATH

that or immora

[frail bloom]

Death it shall be

Immora master level would probably have you fighting out of bounds with the untextured sentinels lol

[lucid saffron]

i want to fight the horde of daemons we see in the cutscene

there was like a baron, mancubus, arachnotron, tyrant and more

[frail bloom]

And like a million immora soldiers for the funnies

[lucid saffron]

i want a video of like "22 ways to get ammo in Doom Eternal"

[frail bloom]

Uh there's like 4 ways

Actually 5

Ammo pick ups
Chainsaw
Sentinel hammer
Empowered
Mayker drone headshot

Not all apply

[lucid saffron]

Blood Maykr
Punching Barrels
Auto-Shotgun mastery

[frail bloom]

Oh true

Would ya look at that

Not as restricting as they say

[lucid saffron]

?

[frail bloom]

Yknow

Like the people who were like "TheYre's NoT eNOugh AmMo"

[lucid saffron]

ooooh

im sure there's more ways, cant think of any though

[frail bloom]

Ofc

[lucid saffron]

oh! the most obscure option "Wraith Crystal ammo upgrade"

[frail bloom]

Well that's expected

You have to be a little behind to not incorporate it in 2025

Unless you're completely new

[lucid saffron]

beating doom with 0 Wraith crystal upgrades

feel like that'd be up there with the pistol runs

[frail bloom]

NOoOOOoO

[lucid saffron]

yis

[frail bloom]

You should've played for davoth

Bro's diabolical

[plain iron]

... that's a challenge in game

Beat base eternal w no upgrades

[plain iron]

Yeah I'm looking at immora [presumably the first area maykrs presided in] and yeah they need to have low gravity it seems, or something like it

Which is probably why they can get so big

[teal nebula]

Dead chat?

[obsidian shard]

yup it was fun to do ngl

[waxen valley]

no just slow rn

[teal nebula]

Okay

[waxen valley]

sometimes they wont stop talking for hours

[teal nebula]

How are you

[waxen valley]

i am doing good, playing speed of doom rn, how are u

[solemn flower]

For the levels in which you have access to the dragon, I imagine the levels will be formatted in a way where there's a big central area for you to use the dragon in, and you go to the edges of the map to hit objective markers that will put you back on foot, then you go back to the dragon to once you've completed whatever it was you were doing there, and while you're on the dragon going to the next on-foot objective, you can fight like "High Priority Targets" or smth similar (referring to the Dragon minibosses they mentioned in the showcase)

[hard thistle]

Yes

[solemn flower]

Hope one of the levels involves our battle with that giant in Taras Nabad...

[hard thistle]

The dark ages is set after that

[plain iron]

No it's not

[solemn flower]

Doom wiki states that the slaying of this titan marked the beginning of the Slayer's legend in Argent D'Nur

after he was empowered by the divinity machine

[plain iron]

There's no indication that it is

[plain iron]

Ehh don't trust the fandom wiki, but that is right

[solemn flower]

I avoid fandom

Im taking that from doomwiki.org but idk how reliable it is

ill take anything over fandom lol

[plain iron]

Real and true fr

Just be cautious, given anyone can edit it

And its seemingly very common in the doom fanbase to have completely wrong information

[hard thistle]

Him being imprisoned at the start of the game indicates the maykrs already knew he went through the divinity machine

[plain iron]

Yes, which was done before the titan as it was done by samur to kill the titan

[solemn flower]

Could be cool if the game opens up with the slayer killing the Titan 👀

[plain iron]

THE FUCKING ICECREAM TRUCJ IS BACK

[plain iron]

I hope so, i mean, it was said that it opens up to us in that battlefield no?

[hard thistle]

If so the game would have to start on taras nabad, but the first level is seemingly called khalim

[frail bloom]

Didnt the article say that doomguy goes through a slipgate or somethin

At the beginning

For the edge article

[hard thistle]

The first location we see in the official trailer 1 with the giant pentagram

[hard thistle]

Yeah i remember seeing that as well

[frail bloom]

It could be either a brief flashback or they found a way to quickly move things along storywise lol

Cuz there's so much history in those codexes all the way to the point where that building gets dropped

[hard thistle]

We’ll definitely see some flashbacks

[hard thistle]

But i don’t think this means the game will start at that point in time

[solemn flower]

From the Edge magazine interview, it's stated that the game has stripped the Slayer of a double jump ability and that the Slayer is "too bulky to leave terra firma for more than a short hop"

Verticality will likely to be explored more in the sections with the dragon

[frail bloom]

Maybe, I'm not sure

I can't really guess how this game is presented this time around

[hard thistle]

I’m hoping the game will have a single dash ability that sort of acts like a roll, i think that would come in handy for those intense 1v1 fights

[frail bloom]

I saw that when he dashed away from an agaddon hunter attack

He dashed backwards

[solemn flower]

Hope we finally get something that firmly ties the end of 64 to the Slayer ending up in Argent D'Nur

[hard thistle]

I thought this was him getting knocked back

[frail bloom]

That's probably what the slipgate refers to

[solemn flower]

oh true

[frail bloom]

He pulls out his shield when it happens, and it's too fluid to be a knockback, could be wrong tho

[solemn flower]

Are the Aggadon Hunters the big dudes with spider legs?

[frail bloom]

No, they are the big tan dudes with shields

Not to be confused with the gladiator lol

[hard thistle]

The new articles released by pc gamer says the agaddon hunter’s moveset is similar to that of the centipede and lone shadow bosses from sekiro

[frail bloom]

Is that good or bad

I've never played sekiro

[hard thistle]

Well if you want a challenge then it’s good

[frail bloom]

Oh cool

For sure

[hard thistle]

I don’t think the parry system will be as hard as sekiro

[frail bloom]

I don't mind parrying

If it feels good, it's good

[solemn flower]

Parrying feels good in almost any game its included in

The sound itches my brain good

[frail bloom]

Tickles lol

Same thing

[hard thistle]

Moreso, the new god of war games. But may be harder if you tune down the parrying slider

[frail bloom]

I don't think I'll touch those

[solemn flower]

Im playing Nightmare day one

[delicate grotto]

Same

[frail bloom]

I don't really think many people would use them beside challenge speedrunners and people with disabilities

The sliders that is

[solemn flower]

I like the way Eternal handles difficulty over 2016, I didnt like how in 2016 it changed the value of health and armor pickups

[frail bloom]

It did?

[solemn flower]

It did yeah

[hard thistle]

Smallest pickup value was 3

[frail bloom]

Oh yeah, hugo said that on an allstin review

[hard thistle]

For health

[frail bloom]

Good times

[solemn flower]

For armor too

I think

nvm i dont remember

but i remember the value dropped with difficulty

[frail bloom]

I love 2016 but the diff is either really easy or super imbalanced

Sometimes I get oneshot by a hellrazer sometimex

It's not a problem but I'm always so confused on how they disenegrate me sometimes

[hard thistle]

Idk if I've died more to demons or from falling off the map

2016’s nightmare mode on a fresh game is significantly harder than eternal’s

[frail bloom]

True

[solemn flower]

Im trying to beat 2016 on UN and my #1 cause of death so far has been getting blasted by the Imp's charge-up fireball right at the end of a glory kill animation

[frail bloom]

Good luck on that UN run man, you have like a couple months

[solemn flower]

Oh Ill get it I got to Argent Facility today

[frail bloom]

I beat tag 1 and tag 2 on un a couple weeks ago

I havent done the campaigns cuz I just dont have the time

[solemn flower]

If I can just get past Kadingir Sanctum I can get through the rest of the game (assuming I dont do anything profoundly stupid)

[frail bloom]

Yeah just siege mode everything

[solemn flower]

True

[frail bloom]

The cyberdemon can be killed in like a minute

[solemn flower]

siege mode my beloved

[frail bloom]

I know cuz I've played 2016 a month ago

I hope he shows up in the dark ages

[solemn flower]

Cyberdemons?

[frail bloom]

Didn't hugo say he wanted to put them in eternal but he didn't have the time?

[frail bloom]

Yes, the balgaar

[solemn flower]

I dont know about the Cyberdemon but I think we got a Tyrant equivalent

[frail bloom]

Yeah the dude with wings

[solemn flower]

He looks so cool

[frail bloom]

Idk how people confused him with a vassago

Which should show up

So many possibilities

[hard thistle]

I think the baalgar will appear

[solemn flower]

Sorry, whats a Baalgar?

[frail bloom]

Fingers crossed

[hard thistle]

Codex suggests the uac found its remains near the area where the battle against the champion titan occured

[plain iron]

Reminder for those who aren't in the know, the cyberdemon in 2016, isn't a classic doom cyberdemon, instead those classic cyberdemons are called tyrants

[frail bloom]

I always thought of the tyrants as a weaker version tho

[solemn flower]

More cost efficient version lol

[frail bloom]

Not as menacing, I know it canbe done tho

[plain iron]

the tyrants look nothing like the 2016 cyberdemon

[frail bloom]

No I know

I'm referring to the classic version

From 1993

To eternal

Anyways, I always thought this was better

[solemn flower]

I think they caused a bit of confusion by making a demon look exactly like its 1993 version but then calling it something completely different lol

[frail bloom]

I still think it's the og, just weaker overtime

[hard thistle]

Eternal is just retconning the name.

Going by modern Doom canon the OG Cyberdemons are Tyrants.

[frail bloom]

Like exactly?

Not changed at all over time?

[hard thistle]

There are minor design differences between the games but they are definitely meant to be the same species.

[frail bloom]

Oh for sure

I just thought they got weaker

Don't got them cybie buns

Smh

[hard thistle]

The Codex for Tyrants in Eternal even makes reference to the same area in Hell that we see in OG Doom.

[frail bloom]

The babel tower yeah

[hard thistle]

If anything they got stronger. They use more than rockets in Eternal, such as a melee weapon and shooting them overhead.

[solemn flower]

Doomguy just got better at killing them

[frail bloom]

Very true!

I guess I gotta look forward

It is what it is

[plain iron]

He did get like. Dipped in the davoth liquid n all

[hard thistle]

Considering you can apply the name “cyberdemon” to practically any demon with cybernetic enhancements, the name change to “tyrant” just feels more warranted

[solemn flower]

Didnt even incorporate any quick-swap techniques during his initial battle with a Tyrant in the tower of babel... amateur

[frail bloom]

He was a masterful strafer at the time

[hard thistle]

Yes. They can use it to refer to a specific species now. Canonically the term "Cyberdemon" is referring to the boss in 2016 specifically.

[plain iron]

He got legs for days with all that strafing

I'm so happy its goin back to that

[frail bloom]

Yeah, and with the sprint, it's gonna get crazy

[plain iron]

I was just redoing davoth's fight and cuz I can't turn around fast after his sheild dash [console moment] the fucker hits me w that stretch sword attack thing and he heals his entire health back

His fight is a fuckfest but he's a fun character

[solemn flower]

me when im a rushed and undeveloped bossfight competition and my opponent is Davoth

[frail bloom]

Davoth is fun to bully

[plain iron]

The boss is fine, I love it

I just hate how it's a rng shitshow

[frail bloom]

Did you know you can cancel his dash attack with the chaingun shield

[solemn flower]

common chaingun shield W

[frail bloom]

If you're quick enough

Busted but awesome

[plain iron]

I ain't using that shield in his fight

I try to avoid using the shield

[frail bloom]

Well that's good for incorporating more higher level play

[solemn flower]

Surprisingly useful for when you need to tell a Hellknight or Dreadknight to SIT DOWN

[frail bloom]

But I wanna bully da pinkies

[plain iron]

GGRR

Me when I can't get far enough to safely use the lock on burst

[frail bloom]

Oh you're on console like me

Yeah it's much more jankier

Relative to pc

Doesn't mean it's janky

[solemn flower]

Wish theyd enabled KBM compatability on PS5

[frail bloom]

Sorry what's KBM

[solemn flower]

Keyboard n Mouse

[frail bloom]

Ofc

My bad

[solemn flower]

Whats strange is that 2016 feels perfectly fine to aim on controller

[frail bloom]

I guess cuz there's not mucn incentive to aim

[solemn flower]

I can land headshots easily, but on Eternal, Its so much harder to track Imps and whatnot

[frail bloom]

Just siege mode evrything lol

[solemn flower]

true

[frail bloom]

Still love it

To me, they're all equal

Maybe it's just a me thing, but they have such strong vibes

[cyan pebble]

[copper torrent]

" 'The Agadon Hunter is the new Marauder', Martin said when I asked him about the big guy from The Dark Ages' trailers, revealing the new enemy's name in the process."

"Martin described the Agadon Hunter as having combo attacks that we'll have to parry in sequence with the Slayer's fancy new shield⁠. Martin expressed a love and admiration for Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice in our conversation, and The Dark Ages' parry system sounds very similar to that game."

[wooden acorn]

Day 45 of 112

[obsidian shard]

A Skill check Enemies are really good, The Marauders were great but Were implemented Not as good as they could be

[prime sentinel]

I think a big reason why so many players had that experience is that the marauder mechanically blindsides you, nothing else in the game up to that point asks you to play that way

With the dark ages parrying is a central mechanic, so I think it will be much smoother

[obsidian shard]

That's my point as well,

[frail bloom]

Yeah, and the mecha zombies shooting the shield caused really janky gameplay at times during release

People thought it was a distance sorta thing

[prime sentinel]

I also think the parry mechanic makes it so you don’t have to consider what weapon you’re using, or aiming which will simplify that interaction into simply being about good timing

[obsidian shard]

It's just how the mechanics sync with other demons and it didn't work out

[ionic void]

not so much ask as DEMAND, lol. every other demon's countermeasures were uptional up until marauder.

i think thats also why people hate the spirit, youre FORCED to use the microwave.

[prime sentinel]

Well the agadon hunter in tda will require parrying to beat I assume

[obsidian shard]

I don't too beat

[prime sentinel]

But the shield is a central mechanic so I don’t think it will upset people as much

[frail bloom]

Yes but they say you would've been parrying till then

[obsidian shard]

But to make it easier to defeat and test your skills

[prime sentinel]

If it’s like sekiro then you will pretty much have to break its guard to damage it

Which I assume means parrying or blocking attacks at the very least

[obsidian shard]

I think you can kill it without parrying but it takes ALOT longer

[prime sentinel]

Is there any info on that or are you speculating?

Because I didn’t read the whole article

[frail bloom]

Well he said 'he thinks' so it's prob speculation

[obsidian shard]

Speculation

You do seem more right

A test of skills

[prime sentinel]

It would be pretty weird if the “skill check” enemy didn’t actually check your skills lol

If you could decide to just kill it without parrying then some players might just miss what the enemy is trying to teach them/make sure they learned already

Idk we don’t know for sure yet

[frail bloom]

It's probably like the maurauder where faltering it with heavy weaponry is the optimal way to defeat it, but stuff like splash damage from sticky bombs or ballista stagger will be a sort of workaround

[prime sentinel]

Huh?

you parry it with the shield I thought?

[frail bloom]

No you do

[prime sentinel]

I would assume the parrying is what falters it

[frail bloom]

I was talking about the marauder

[prime sentinel]

Perfect parrying probably falters it faster

[frail bloom]

I'm just saying that the agaddon hunter might be more versatile than the marauder

[prime sentinel]

If perfect parrying is even a mechanic

[obsidian shard]

From what we see in the Trailer Any Parrying causes demons to falter

[prime sentinel]

Right but we know the agadon hunter takes multiple parries to falter

So perhaps better timing rewards you with less attacks

A bit like the posture bar in sekiro

Where you can fill the meter faster by having better timing and parrying more attacks

[frail bloom]

Unrelated, do you think they'll lower the specs

[prime sentinel]

Doubt it

[frail bloom]

Cuz how is doom for all slayers if you can't afford it

Yknow

[prime sentinel]

Even if a lower end pc can play it I don’t think they’ll change the asking specs

[frail bloom]

Strange

[prime sentinel]

Why not just give the game out for free then 🤔

[frail bloom]

Well that's not what I mean, I meant that the price is a bit much for a lot of people

I could've worded it better

[prime sentinel]

So is the price of the game in general

Some people can’t afford to blow 70 bucks on a game

[frail bloom]

Right

We'll see

We're gonna say that alot lmao

[prime sentinel]

I’m confused if you mean they’re gonna tone down the graphics so it runs on lower end hardware or just change the minimum requirements page

[frail bloom]

If they allow you to tonr down the graphics I guess

[prime sentinel]

I don’t think that’s changing in the next 2 and a half months sorry

[frail bloom]

I'm not sure if they can or can't loewer the requierements

I'm playing on ps5 so I don't hacve that problem

[obsidian shard]

Minimum Probably, They did with Eternal

[obsidian shard]

I'm On Series X so Also am running fine

I wonder what it'll run like on series S tho

[frail bloom]

Well if it's not optimized, that won't look good for their reputation

They're known for optimization, and their game is dependent on smooth gameplay

[obsidian shard]

Minimum specs for PC, is basically what a Series S is

[frail bloom]

Yeah, so you'll play in 1080 p with 60 fps

Just guessing

[obsidian shard]

I'm On Series X so be same as Whatever PS5 is

[frail bloom]

Yeah it's prob the same

[obsidian shard]

If it was series S than def 1080 and 60FPS

Pretty sure it'll Be 4k 60FPS for Series X and PS5

[frail bloom]

Oh well that's good

[prime sentinel]

I hope I can hit 144 fps 2k with the pc I’m buying to play it

[frail bloom]

Well if that doesn't happen then you have every right to refund it

[prime sentinel]

Eh I am confident it will be possible

Not native 4k that’s a pipe dream and I don’t have a 4k monitor regardless

[frail bloom]

We don't need 4k

[prime sentinel]

2k was a pretty big upgrade from 1080p and I didn’t expect it to be

Same with going from 60hz to 144hz

Especially for shooters

[frail bloom]

Yeah for sure, if it plays smooth then we're set

[obsidian shard]

Just Checked so PS5+Pro and Series X will run 4k at 60FPS with HDR

[frail bloom]

What's HDR

Sorry

Oh what

[obsidian shard]

I went from 1080 to 4k and woah

[prime sentinel]

High dynamic range

[frail bloom]

Alright

[hard thistle]

@frail bloom makes black darker or something

[prime sentinel]

Basically color shit

[obsidian shard]

Makes Good Look Gooder

[frail bloom]

Me like that

[obsidian shard]

Indeed

[prime sentinel]

You need a tv that can display it

[obsidian shard]

But you must have a HDR Compatible Display

[prime sentinel]

Or monitor

[frail bloom]

I'm pretty confident I have that

[obsidian shard]

Most 4k stuff does Come with HDR, Some don't but My TV does

[prime sentinel]

Alright folks I’m going to bed, gotta get up for work in 7 and a half hours

Cya

[frail bloom]

Cya

[obsidian shard]

Night

[obsidian shard]

Noticed some stuff bout the HUD

The face looks at what you are shooting at and Where enemies are, as well as when you get hit, It looks in that Direction

[plain iron]

Aw fuck yea

I wonder if we're gonna get the little goober smile

[obsidian shard]

Hell yeah, I bet we will, I'm Excited to see all the Animations The Face will do

[plain iron]

:D

[dark peak]

do you guys think you will get all the ammo by the melee attack in this game? because that would make the exploration less important

[graceful juniper]

exploring is always important

[dark peak]

nah

[wheat sigil]

i hope exploration will be something optional, i personally suck at it and don't really like it xd

[frail bloom]

Exploration is literally always optional

[graceful juniper]

it is always cool to find the secrets and collectables though

[frail bloom]

Unless you mean upgrades

[wheat sigil]

i do

[dark peak]

maybe you will able to get certain ammo types by killing enemies and the rest by exploration, like doom

[frail bloom]

Idk depends, more bang for your buck i guess

[dark peak]

exploring in doom is waaaay more important, than the modern games

[hard thistle]

Martin may not have committed to announcing Doom: The Darker Ages, but he made it clear that id at the very least has follow-up story DLC planned along the lines of Doom Eternal's The Ancient Gods: "We do have a DLC and things like that, so it won't⁠—I'm not giving away spoilers⁠—but it doesn't end with him [in the coffin]."

Upcoming pc gamer issue

[slender night]

Thanks Sam Raimi horror movie

[hard thistle]

What’s good, Slayers?

Two months and a few days until the Dark Ages begin!

[frail bloom]

Yessir

[left solstice]

Doom the Middle Ages

Who here pre ordered doom the dark ages

[frail bloom]

Me

I did

[left solstice]

Which version

[frail bloom]

Premium

[left solstice]

Dang

Your lucky

I got the 60$

[frail bloom]

Ik I'm privileged

We get to play a new doom game so it's all fun

[left solstice]

I’m to poor

[frail bloom]

Someday man

[left solstice]

It needs a multiplayer

👍

[frail bloom]

Maybe in a year or so

Campaign gotta be fire first

[left solstice]

Yea

👍

I’m still poor

[frail bloom]

You don't need the premium

[left solstice]

I know

But the dlc

[frail bloom]

You'll have some money when the dlc comes out

[left solstice]

I need them

[frail bloom]

Im sure of it

Preorder means you get it earlier or something

Not really tho

[left solstice]

I need to restart my doom

It’s glitching

[frail bloom]

Ok

[left solstice]

So I’ll reinvite you

[frail bloom]

Alright

[obsidian shard]

Hell yeah collectors Edition

[left solstice]

Will there be marauders in the next doom game

[frail bloom]

Not sure

[obsidian shard]

Unknown

[frail bloom]

Aggadon hunters are their equivalant

[left solstice]

The cyberdons looks fire

[obsidian shard]

Ye and they cool asf

[left solstice]

*cyberdemons

[obsidian shard]

All the Demons look so fucking cool in The Dark Ages

[frail bloom]

Ye I wanna se it's face in better detail

Do you think we'll traditionally glorykill superheavies in dda

Cuz ragdolling them with melee would look a but funny

[obsidian shard]

We will see

[frail bloom]

Ofc

[left solstice]

I love how doom changes the demons style every time

[frail bloom]

Yeah it prevents staleness

[frail bloom]

We should chat in general so we don't clog up this channel if we're playing battlemode

[left solstice]

Ok

[hard thistle]

Oh my God, man. Really wish I could post fucking news links here.

Anyway.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1252719879187071187/1348420825434292274/image.png?ex=67cf6641&is=67ce14c1&hm=9d169602eb0772314eae3fab12f53c6b931104223bf57d749524dff367a8ab1a&

This is about what I figured, wouldn't have made sense timeline-wise.

[frail bloom]

Huh

So is it in the dlc

Cuz it wouldve been a cool cinematic

[hard thistle]

We do not know literally anything about the DLC.

[frail bloom]

I was speculating

I worded it wrong

[hard thistle]

In any case I doubt it will be in the DLC either. There is literally like billions of years between the events we're seeing in TDA and the sarcophagus.

[frail bloom]

Yeah maybe they have something more fitting

[feral cargo]

Hello guys, any news on when ID is going to show us uncut gameplay? Its 2 months until the release and all we have is like a pre-order trailer

[frail bloom]

We've had hugo where he talks about the purple circle

That's it lol

[plain iron]

YEAHHHH man this is so cool

[raw relic]

@ mods @ devs and whatever i have an epic slider to add "game speed"

[grim cloud]

"Not yet," Martin said of the Slayer getting locked away. "I mean, that would end the Dark Ages, the medieval chapter of the Doom saga. This is kind of like the Chronicles of the Slayer.

So that is good news

centuries cant be told in a 12 hour campaign

[prime sentinel]

The next trilogy is just gonna be everything that happens between tda and 2016 lmao

[cobalt fog]

I think the dlc will end that way

[grim cloud]

the article already said it will not

[hard thistle]

The DLC would have to skip forward millions, billions of years.

[grim cloud]

at least the first DLC, if they release many DCL's after then yah after about 200 games and major time jumps, sure

[obsidian shard]

And 2016 to Eternal

[plain iron]

Hrr I wanna see it

[raw relic]

its already there

what a genius came up with an idea as good asd mine?

[grim cloud]

we need a 2016 singleplayer DLC that gives us the story between eternal and that

[steel bridge]

LOL

[raw relic]

have those morons who came up with chainsaw come up with a superior alternative for the dark ages?

[willow herald]

I'm trying to get the collector’s addition but have no money, what do I do? (and I don't know if I can get a job that's in person rn because of family issues and stuff)

[delicate grotto]

Chainsaw was a good game design choice
Limited ammo pool incentivizes creativity and problem solving. Relying on your surroundings and cooldowns makes the combat much more interesting imo. But to each their own.
Regarding TDA, based on what’s been discussed, it seems the chainsaw shield will be the main way of gathering resources in this game. There’s a lot more input involved with it, so it’ll be more engaging than the chainsaw.

[prime sentinel]

It looks like there are different ways to get resources actually

Depending on what melee weapon you’re using

[delicate grotto]

I don’t see any legitimate way of acquiring one in that circumstance, unless you know someone who’s willing to purchase it for you.
You could try selling some belongings to save up a bit? I did that while pursuing work. It helped.

[delicate grotto]

Ah that makes sense. Interesting. I’m excited to see how that’ll play out

[willow herald]

I don't think anyone is willing to purchase the edition for me. True, it would help to sell something of mine that I don't use anymore

[prime sentinel]

You also don’t have to finish off monsters to get resources, it appears you can get it piece meal while they’re staggered?

[raw relic]

pressing c next to a weak demon isnt really fun way to solve problems

would prefer just to get ammo from glory kills

[fleet spruce]

it gave fodder more purpose in the combat tho

[raw relic]

immersion and fun interrupting

there is no purpose to create a purpose which shouldnt be there

its like saying giving people diseases gives medicine more purpose

[fleet spruce]

Literally the entire medical industry

[raw relic]

just most of it

some existed before modrn medicine

[cyan lotus]

Could say the same for glory kills, maybe pressing e on a demon isn’t a fun way to solve problems

[raw relic]

in napoleonic wars 2-3 times more cvasualties died from disease/huinger/exposure than combat

[raw relic]

in any case less unfun than chainsaw

looks way betetr and is quicker

[cyan lotus]

That’s subjective

[raw relic]

both suffer from same downside that it extremely easy and disrupts shooting

but its way faster and entertaininger

also somewhat optional

imo staggered enemies should be oneshot for those who dont like it

the dumbest criticism i ever saw is difficulty sliders

which are OPTIONAL

imo everything should be customizable without mods

[cyan lotus]

I think the optimal way to play in eternal in virtually any open arena is the air camp and to swoop down for armor, glory kills as needed maybe

[raw relic]

like which enenmies are there hich atttacks they perform how fast how much dmg

[raw relic]

im wathcing murican eagle do that

[cyan lotus]

Maybe not the funnest, but that’s raw efficiency at work I suppose

[raw relic]

imo there should be a way something like a fast relaoding hammer that kills staggered enemies on mass

i dont understand why games dont let players customize everything

[cyan lotus]

Hammers already OP as is, and the highest stagger health is 510, hammer does 800 damage, kills staggered enemies anyways

[raw relic]

would save the effort and errors in modding

[raw relic]

it could be less pwoerful just to clear stagerred

it could be soemthing else

[delicate grotto]

I can understand the chainsaw feeling a bit one-note with its use- although Eternal’s combat is so fast-paced I think it compliments the game loop. This argument was brought up with 2016’s GKs too. Luckily TDA builds off 2016’s and Eternal’s design philosophy to make resource management a little more interesting.

[raw relic]

the thing is it's not inetersting at all

or let weapons automatically reload but not so fast that you can use just 2

having to manage ammo based on enemy type would make it more interesting assuming you want to limit ammo in the first place which imm not sure about

there is no ammo management in eternal since there is plenty except maybe BFG which half the players dont use

there is just a step to obtaning ammo

im going to cry about other thing that annoys me in eternal: microwave ghosts

[left solstice]

I’m slaying it

Ok nvm

[uncut jungle]

Question - Collectors Edition distribution in Australia?

[solemn flower]

How does physical preordering work? I bought the Collectors Preorder for Doom TDA and don’t know how it works..

Will it arrive a few days before early access begins?

[stark bough]

I Imagine it should arrive the day it begins

When I got eternals collector edition it showed up like mid day on March 20th

[solemn flower]

thank you

[obsidian shard]

A Gunless Run

A Shieldless run

The Possibilities

[plain iron]

Ebgames or jbhifi, outside of them I haven't a clue

[uncut jungle]

They don’t have the Collectors edition - only Premium 😭

[plain iron]

Aw man, ebgames had it, I think they just sold out

[uncut jungle]

omg no way! ok thank you 🙏

[plain iron]

Yeah, I bought mine there, but I'm sure there's gonna be ways for you to get it !!

Have fun hunting 😭

[raw relic]

am i understanding it t\right that you will be able to glory kill many at once?

https://youtu.be/ifP72jc0638?t=311

i don't understand where it was or will be

i don't understand multiplayer.
i see a very easy way to make it: coop at least not pvp.
multiple players and a monster multiplier

[slender night]

Even the most barebones version of multiplayer is hard to make

[raw relic]

how is it dificult to put more of whats already in there

more players and monsters and give them normal mission/big arena

[slender night]

You need to tweak the multiplayer to actually be functional. UI, input, making sure it's not laggy, etc etc, all stuff that takes away from time that could've been spent developing the main campaign

[raw relic]

well idk anything about coding

except font size and color of text 17 years ago

so i will just complain its not there without saying its easy

i have good news and bad news about the new game

it only has to be as good as eternal

but it has to be at least as good

[raw relic]

https://youtu.be/XNmvDqJiHOY

i had 3 brilliant ideas today

which isn't that many for me but...

it turns out some other genius had them before me

[placid saffron]

Well it'll be quite a bit different then eternal so even if you really liked eternal there's no guarentee you'd like DA even if it's of higher quality

[raw relic]

i'm too bad to miss the speed i think

judging by the trailers it might the the goodest fps game ever

hopefully it wont be as big a disappointment as UE5 trailer

[placid saffron]

Judging by marketing any new AAA game is the greatest game ever made

[placid saffron]

It's more than just "speed", it's the entire gameflow

[raw relic]

thAn when comparing scAle or Amount and thEn when time

[placid saffron]

I have no idea what you're saying

[raw relic]

when you said "the" i thought you were trying to say "then" but its "than"
i noticed the mistake in ur bio