the-dark-ages

[rain lotus]

I wish every piece of merch wasn’t limited

[obsidian shard]

Same with DOOM.Daisy.Bun

[hard thistle]

Real

[rain lotus]

Like a lot of the older merch is just lost to time

[dark peak]

some people care about metacritic, for some reason

[obsidian shard]

Possibly but critics do kind of hate the fact that id is owned by Xbox Now

Which is dumb

Like who gives AF who owns

Like is the game good or not

[hard thistle]

That shouldn't even be a factor since it'll be on playstation anyway

[obsidian shard]

They gave the PS Version of monster Hunter higher than the Xbox Version

It's the Same Game

PC had shit load of Texture issues

But nothing on either Console

[sterile sage]

I'm a fan, so I hope this game gets a high score.

[obsidian shard]

Same

Neither way it'll be peak

I Pre-ordered the Collector's Edition and Helmet

So just need Yellow Keycard

But I'm certified Broke now

[rain lotus]

I love the keycards

I’m gonna be sad if they’re different sizes in the helmet and collectors edition

[scenic lichen]

only got the collectors ed

cannot afford that helmet rn

ill get it when i can

[brisk dirge]

Caught here in a fireyyy blazeeeeee

[graceful tulip]

The fact the helmet isn’t paired with the collectors edition is insane

[plain iron]

THERES A HELMET???

HRRR ITS 402AUD

Ima get it on payday

[merry sapphire]

yeah but doom 2016 is more like a modernized doom 64 without the other demons. like same aesthetic and level design too

[cobalt fog]

I mean yeah but I’m talking about remastering or giving a better look to the origin of doom guy before he became the slayer “1-2 64”

[merry sapphire]

do you mean remake or remastered? cause the games are already remastered

[cobalt fog]

Remake

But keeping it mainly the same

Just a graphics update with cutscenes

[merry sapphire]

on the origin of doomguy, i think it could be elaborated more in dark ages through codexes or cutscenes. but i dont think its worth it remaking the og games imo

[cobalt fog]

Honestly I think it is as playing the og games in modern graphics would be awesome

Especially the mother demon fight

[merry sapphire]

fair, as long as the gameplay remains essentially the same it could be really good

[obsidian shard]

My brother bought it for me so I owe him 200

[vagrant path]

I feel like doom remakes should be next, bringing the classics into a new generation and fully committing to giving it a story and connections to the later games.

I feel like ID could pull it off now

[plain iron]

Classic doom already has all of that

It has a story that connects w nudoom, and lots of younger folk love classic doom

[vagrant path]

I still think a full reimagining would be interesting if they managed to respect the source material

[hard thistle]

A remake of Doom 1 would be interesting but considering how widely accessible and playable the original games are, and how much you can change them to suit your own style, I don't really think it'd be worth the effort.

Especially when it'd be the fifth mainline Doom game about you on Mars or a Mars moon fighting demons invading the place.

[fleet spruce]

classic games are good as is

[sleek ermine]

Wait

OH MAN THIS SUCKS

I’m hopefully getting that new helmet for my birthday. Problem is: birthday is in October

[tribal lagoon]

A lot of the classic games charms would be lost with a total remake. The remasters are good enough they still hold up great gameplay wise

The secret levels from 2016 are pretty much what a Classic Doom or Doom II remake would play like

In other words, awful. It play like crap

[prime sentinel]

Yeah we just got a rerelease of the classic games, they don’t need to be “remade”

Doom 2016 and Eternal basically do remake the games in their own way. Unless you mean remaining accurate in terms of level design but just making it look better, which would be pointless

[proud vine]

Classic doom games have their own charm that you can't capture again with a remake

Imo

[unkempt apex]

this is how i feel.. doom 2016 and Eternal are basically a remade/rebooted version of the classics

[proud vine]

Also new helmet

I have no idea where to put it but i kinda want it ngl

[unkempt apex]

you dont even need to remake the classics.. just use gzdoom and brutal doom

[unkempt apex]

the one from dark ages you mean?

[proud vine]

Yes

[unkempt apex]

yeah it looks pretty dope

the preorder suit looks nice with it

[prime sentinel]

No thanks

[unkempt apex]

was more in reply to the guy who wanted the classics remade

not to the guy who thinks remaking them is pointless

[plain iron]

Get a foam head and paint it to look like doomguy

That's what ima do

[proud vine]

Now i only have the second problem

Where do i get 200 euros

[plain iron]

Hrr ask ur mother/father for a early birthday present

[proud vine]

My ass is broke ngl

[plain iron]

That's so real

My ass got 7 dollars

I gotta pay 402aud for it so

[proud vine]

https://tenor.com/view/chainsaw-man-he-just-like-he-just-like-me-fr-meme-gif-573734217303447410

[plain iron]

Cept unlike you I get paid in 5/6 days

I will have... 12 dollars left after I buy it

• the 7 dollars from before

[frank wave]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/993102244968943666/1337757721059004528/262766271_282060767065705_7487354350835633441_n-1.gif

[storm shadow]

You do not know what a remake is if you consider the new titles remakes

[frank wave]

[prime sentinel]

Ok

I’m at work so I can’t respond properly lmao bye

[plain iron]

... they are remakes, they follow similar story beats, features the same main characters [relatively] what you are thinking of is a remaster or something like that, they will copy the game, in a new engine.

[storm shadow]

Not everyone has a pc though. I wouldn’t mind spending another $10 or so for a remake of doom 2 tbh.

[storm shadow]

No running, half the ammo the originals feature, totally different mechanics, and it’s mostly walk into room, demon spawns, repeat.

The new titles are reboots, not remakes. Hugo himself claims them as such.

[plain iron]

Wow it's almost as if I said it wasn't a one to one copy.

Regardless, what you want isn't a remake, it's a remaster. Same thing, different engine.

[storm shadow]

I do want a remake tho, feature a new episode in the game and maybe little bits of lore that weren’t shown but written in the doom bible to be displayed in the game.

[plain iron]

That would mess with the lore.

[storm shadow]

Because the lore is so stable in its current setting 😭

[plain iron]

Do you want it to be more unstable?

I'd rather it not

[storm shadow]

How would it be more unstable? It would literally be doomguy lore not slayer lore

[plain iron]

... they're the same person

This is well known 😭

[storm shadow]

No wayyyyyy

[plain iron]

So if doomguy lore changes, slayer lore changes

Hence why daisy is a reoccurring character

[storm shadow]

Bro what are u saying, what does daisy have to do with this 😂

Daisy is just him trippin in eternal

[plain iron]

... and the cage in his room? And the painting?

Daisy comes from the first game

He has fuckin rabbit food

[storm shadow]

Ik they’re the same bro

[plain iron]

While yes, daisy is a hallucination and personification of his trauma and guilt, she is still daisy

[plain iron]

I didn't know that.

[storm shadow]

What I don’t understand is how would more doom guy lore affect anything to do with the story.

Maybe the remake could finally show us who the random lady and child was in his room that he has a photo of

[plain iron]

Because, how would they justify remaking the classic games? Because now we have 2 sets of games, it would be like doom 3, and how some people struggle with identifying it as canon

[storm shadow]

I assume it’s his wife and son but we still don’t know

[plain iron]

I'd wager that's him and his mother

Regardless he doesn't care about that photo much, it is right next to his trash can

[storm shadow]

Well then why hold onto it if it’s so unimportant

[plain iron]

It has emotions around it

Unknown what emotions they are

But emotions nonetheless

[storm shadow]

Also doom 3 has nothing to do with the slayer, Hugo himself stated it’s a different universe

[plain iron]

If we count the books as canon [they're dubiously so] then he does have daddy issues, hence the adult man being torn from the photo

[storm shadow]

I’ve never heard anyone say this about the slayer wtf 😭

[plain iron]

Yes but not everyone seems to realise that, how would they justify putting the Marine into that environment

[plain iron]

I have the quotes and page numbers if you want them

[storm shadow]

Regardless what negatives would come from a remake because it just seems like you believe it would mess up the storyline

[plain iron]

... yes because doom is a story driven fps, even the first one had a story

[storm shadow]

I just want doom 1 or 2 with modern graphics and a new episode, I’d pay $10 for it

[plain iron]

for that price? Classic doom isn't even that low

[storm shadow]

I bought both for $3 on steam

[plain iron]

Said quotes

• Knee deep in the dead, by Dafydd Ab Hugh

Page 120

She smiled and shook her head. Arlene hadn't forgotten my father, a pathological liar and petty thief who ended up doing twenty-five to life for his fourth felony conviction... trying to run down a state trooper with his pickup truck. He died in Vacaville two years later, from a cerebral hemorrhage, they said.

Page 120

My father was the pettiest, lowest, meanest man I ever knew. He couldn't even understand the word "honor." He never knew why I joined the Corps, never would have understood if I told him I did it for him... so I would never be him.

Page 238

He humiliated me all over again, as he had twenty years earlier; we'd been in Hawaii in a museum, before a life-size (huge) statue of Hawaii's greatest king. I shrank away from him, praying to God no one knew he was my father; but he followed me, saying, ""Did you see what I did? Watch!" And he did it again!

These are only in the first book, I'm too lazy to check the others

[plain iron]

Presumably on sale?

[storm shadow]

Yes

[plain iron]

Them that doesn't count as a general price, that was a discount

You'd assume so

Regardless, it would still cost a lot more

[storm shadow]

Doesn’t even matter when it’ll be on gamepass either way, so it’d be even less for me

[plain iron]

It's probably not gonna happen

They're already pushing with TDA

They wrote themselves in a corner w TAG

[sleek ermine]

on your head

[plain iron]

I should get a wig for the Styrofoam slayer ima make for it

[prime sentinel]

Not in the original game = not a remake by your logic so no

The story in classic doom is so vague that doom 2016 is essentially a remake

Want a new official episode for classic doom? Play legacy of rust

It comes highly recommended

[earnest swift]

Eh. Not enough people care about the narrative of these games for id to not be able to bs their way out of that.

[plain iron]

So I've heard, I do want to play it but I am utter balls at classic doom

[plain iron]

You'd be surprised by how many people care 😭

[hoary path]

I bought the doom helmet 😭

Costed me 240 dollars with shipping

[prime sentinel]

Classic doom is my favorite game haha, maybe try it at I’m too young to die if you struggle

It’s worth experiencing, it’s incredible

[plain iron]

I'm not gonna even lie Ive legitimately played classic doom more on the eternal port than the other ports 😭

[prime sentinel]

Fake fan…

Jk lol you should totally try again tho

[plain iron]

Yea I'm trying 😭

I just get really lost in it when I play it in eternal 💀

[fleet spruce]

This, incredible experience from start to finish

[plain iron]

Hard for me to focus otherwise

[earnest swift]

Honestly I never really managed to appreciate 2 for some reason.

OG’s killer though.

[gilded lake]

keeps crashing when i try to play multiplayer co op w it :[

[prime sentinel]

Doom 2 is really good, levels get more vertical and conceptual. I’m a big fan

But I was referring to legacy of rust in that post particularly

[tranquil zodiac]

I was here thinking it was april already and I somehow missed april fools

now it hurt realizing how far away from may we are still

[fossil heron]

I might need The Dark Ages Wearable Helmet 😄

I have DE Helmet as well

[sleek ermine]

no. I need it more than you

[hard thistle]

The Slayer is very possibly involved in Doom 3's events as the Martian Hero. He's just not relevant to the main plot.

[hard thistle]

If they did remakes, the Resident Evil route tends to be the best IMO - in that series the remakes and originals are all considered valid interpretations and you're meant to be able to swap them out and still follow the broad strokes of the plot.

[kindred summit]

You guys think the base ps5 will run dark ages well? Because i am about to pre order it despite it being RT forced

[wooden acorn]

Probably yea

[summer obsidian]

Thing about it consoles is they are like a gpu brick. They are usually as powerful as a mid to high end pc. Even tho the play station is equal to like a 2060 (if I’m remembering correctly) it is a dedicated machine

[kindred summit]

So it will run perfectly fine

[summer obsidian]

Allegedly, if u aren’t sure, I think GameStop has a return policy that if the game is buggy u can return it

[kindred summit]

Imma buy it digitally

[slender night]

The game has to be optimized for Series S, that's weaker than the PS5, so PS5 is guaranteed to run it at least decently

[tight gulch]

do you think a 4060 will be able to play the dark ages

[summer obsidian]

Yes

[tight gulch]

alr

[summer obsidian]

Ok gl

[summer obsidian]

I don’t see a reason it wouldn’t run

[kindred summit]

So most highly chance of it running 60 fps

[tight gulch]

im just worried.

[summer obsidian]

The steam page has some recommendations on it

[tight gulch]

i know

[hard thistle]

You're talking about idtech here

[kindred summit]

Yeah I’ll buy doom dark ages after launch maybe

[summer obsidian]

I’m deadass considering getting pro skater 3+4 just for doom guy

[raw relic]

will it be impossible to run on anything below RTX 2000s?

[summer obsidian]

I shall check

[summer obsidian]

It says 2060 super or better

[raw relic]

i know but i heard that it woudl be i8mpossible

and that would be very starnge

[summer obsidian]

That’s the minimum requirement the recommended is 3080

[raw relic]

i know what the mininum is but im asking if it would be impossibel to run the game

or just they say i shoudlnt

[summer obsidian]

What card do u have

[raw relic]

1080 ti

but that isnt relevant

[summer obsidian]

It would definitely look bad on a 2060

[raw relic]

that sint my question

my question is if the game would run at all at any fps

[summer obsidian]

It is relevant, some games do allow u to run it on below the minimum but some games just will straight up tell u “no”

[raw relic]

that would still be the case if i had a 5090

[summer obsidian]

It would let u run it with a 5090

[raw relic]

but im not aksing that

[summer obsidian]

Ur asking how the game would run on ur graphics card

Correct?

[raw relic]

no

well yes but as an exampple

since its below 200s series, my question is if the game will be rinning

or they wont let below 2000 series

[summer obsidian]

Like will it boot?

[raw relic]

yes

no matter the performance

[summer obsidian]

We won’t know until it releases. Some other games won’t even launch if u don’t have the minimum (like marvel rivals) other games will let u but with the forced ray tracing I doubt it would let u

[wooden acorn]

Day 41 of 112

[hard thistle]

Anybody peep the Hugo reacts on twitter?

[graceful tulip]

We got the helmet and statue, now all we need is the shield and cape

[lucid rover]

Should I pre order the doom slayer old new helmet, If I couldn’t get with the collectors edition one?

[arctic pagoda]

I just spent $275 on the CE

And now I find out they're also making a dark ages wearable helmet for $175 USD

[normal vortex]

Would tda run good on 4060ti+i7

[arctic pagoda]

I dunno I'm a console pheasant

[dark peak]

yeah why not? then minimum is a 2060

[normal vortex]

Awesome

[summer obsidian]

Yep the recommendation is a 3080 so ur good

[normal vortex]

So hyped I literally have a countdown for tda bookmarked on Chrome💀

[ashen totem]

Do you think there’ll be a BFG in dark ages?

[hard thistle]

Yes you will get a big friendly giant in the dark ages

The atlan

[graceful tulip]

Itll be the atlan mechs carrying a big fucking gun

[arctic pagoda]

If the 60 meter Atlan doesn't have a 20 meter shotgun, is it even worth it?

[grim cloud]

time for a new monitor. So for FPS, 34 inch for TDA?

Maybe Oled but they are twice the price

[hard thistle]

Atlans casually carrying atomic bombs for hand grenades:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1344907456190484634/1346980561259855997/IMG_0499.png?ex=67ca28e7&is=67c8d767&hm=25d468f0c281d145c4e9346a901d0b6a3bc58d54f59afba1cde308179873e61f&

[arctic pagoda]

Dragom

[cobalt fog]

Where’s that photo from

[grim cloud]

he is jsut chewing bubble gum

[cobalt fog]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-gaming-gamer-dance-jig-jiggy-gif-16548737736878595145

[weak imp]

After watching the trailer many times
I understood that:
-to recover armor you have to destroy the enemy armor
-For ammunition it's with our 3 melee attacks which recharge over time
-And for life it's the new glory kill which also gives a little ammunition

All this is just a guess
But after watching the video several times and in slow motion
I have drawn these conclusions

[obsidian shard]

you are correct

[weak imp]

Thanks.

[obsidian shard]

hell yeah

[summer obsidian]

Can some one please inform me why some people like intense gore? I am fine if it’s in a video game even if realistic but I don’t get people’s need to run up to me and shove their phone in my face and show me the most horrific thing with no warning or reason

[plucky plinth]

because some people are fucked

[summer obsidian]

Real

[obsidian shard]

No clue

in DOOM it's slightly Different, more subtle

Sort or

But when we see bodies haning and shit, that shit creeps me out, but in a Game Like DOOM it a lil weird cause we play as the Slayer

[feral vault]

in doom its funny

[grave cave]

dose the doom dark age helmet ship to Aus?

[weak imp]

same moob as in Mortal Kombat it's artistic gore

[obsidian shard]

it just depends ig

[weak imp]

personally I am fascinated by the macabre art of Bacon and Beksinski's works
but I understand your point of view

[weak imp]

Exactly

[obsidian shard]

depends on game, and on the person playing or seeing it

for me its not an issue for games, im not good at movie gore, still cant watch the saw movies

french?

[weak imp]

like all art
"art is subjective"

[weak imp]

Yes

[obsidian shard]

exactly

[obsidian shard]

i know a lil since forced to take it for 4 years, but im not very good

cant really remember much

[weak imp]

Don't worry, I work with foreigners who speak very little French, so don't worry.

[obsidian shard]

oh, do you live in France?

[weak imp]

Yep

[obsidian shard]

cool

[weak imp]

And you Canada ?

[obsidian shard]

im from Canada, so French is our second Language

our french is Different though

even more so if your from Quebec

im from BC though

[weak imp]

Je suis pas un professionnel de la langue française alors ne t'inquiète pas

[obsidian shard]

I Aint Professional, i barely passed by class

i can piece words together

[weak imp]

Its OK my friend

Dont worry

[obsidian shard]

cant speak it, it was hard for me to learn to speak it and cant remeber now

i can sing happy birthday in French tho

[weak imp]

It's very Nice start

Really

My english is very not incredible

[obsidian shard]

thats fine, i cant even speak english properly half the time

english is just a mix of a bunch of languages soo

[weak imp]

Yep
Speak is OK for my
Read no

[obsidian shard]

your doing fine dont sweat it

i help teach Some Internatinal students at my school, for some of my classes

[summer obsidian]

Doom gets a pass cuz it’s demons not humans

[obsidian shard]

fair

[shut whale]

Hey which is better for gaming windows 10 or 11

[plucky plinth]

Windows 10 is about to lose support, but has a lot less bullshit.
11 apparently can have massive compatibility and performance issues.

and when I mean Win10 is about to lose support, I mean in October of this year

[shut whale]

So windows 10 is better

[plucky plinth]

for now

hell, if it wasn't for Denuvo I'd just tell you Linux

because Windows is just so shit that the only reason I'm using it is because I'm pretty much forced to

[shut whale]

Ok hold on windows 10 is good for now, I take it windows 11 is better

[plucky plinth]

eh, it's still shit either way

but you'll be kinda forced into using 11

[shut whale]

So will windows 11 be fixed or will it stay the same and will my best option be windows 10 for life

[versed stone]

Okay, what if instead of Andrew Hulshult, the soundtrack for Dark Ages is composed by Xtrullor?

[plucky plinth]

We already got a composer confirmed for TDA, that being Finishing Move

[versed stone]

No idea who that is.

[fierce galleon]

they did a lot of the music for halo

[hollow hedge]

GK's are ok. I just want blood punch to be brought back

[plucky plinth]

It was a gimmick to me tbh

No real reason to have it

Same with the glory kill system

[hollow hedge]

fair, get rid of them all. i enjoyed blood punch more than GK though

[hollow hedge]

and no need for 2 gimmicks. keep blood punch, ditch GK, or ditch both. regardless though, im gonna play the piss out of TDA

[hard thistle]

Tbh it seems to me like they kinda just merged blood punch and glory kills together

[sleek ermine]

will the new doom guy helmet be limited edition?

[harsh heron]

do we know if there'll be a Fortress Of Doom type thing in TDA?

I really loved it in eternal

[sleek ermine]

prolly

the thing that launches the missile containing DOOM Slayer maybe

[harsh heron]

neat

IDK why I just really fucking love hub levels😭😂

[hard thistle]

There will be no hubs

Confirmed

[sleek ermine]

are you sure

[sleek ermine]

where

[hard thistle]

Gamingbolt interview on the browser

[sleek ermine]

of course you can trust EVERY source you find

[harsh heron]

so there'll be nowhere to display all our collectibles and stuff 😦

[hard thistle]

They literally interviewd hugo and martin

Marty*

Everything spoken from their own words

[sleek ermine]

[harsh heron]

John and Todd approach ominously in the background

(yes I know Todd functionally has nothing to do with Doom it's just funny imo to attribute everything that happens with a Bethesda game, good or bad, to him)

[graceful lion]

it doesnt seem like a hub game to be fair

you are a killing machine, not a guy that can take a break

you are a toy for the gods to play with

[hard thistle]

Real

[graceful lion]

so i feel like the "no hubs" thing was already confirmed

[harsh heron]

aren't you also in eternal though?

[graceful lion]

there is a difference

in eternal, you were not contrlled by anyone

in tda, you are, practically, controlled

if i had to guess, its due to the power of the divinity machine you're still being used to

[harsh heron]

true

ig this seems more "you're fighting because you have to defend yourself" rather than eternal where they're fighting to defend themselves

[graceful lion]

so your body is more prone to being controled

[graceful lion]

well, in eternal, you were fighting to defend your people, to make all the suffering stop

in tda, you are fighting becuase you are told to fight

[plain iron]

I'd assume there's a form of hub, but not a traditional one

Ie stable for big angry mecha lizard

• collectables

I hope we have some

It would be a great way to make more merch w out designing a bunch of other shit

[hard thistle]

Collectibles confirmed

And they will level up your abilities now instead of being mere displays

[graceful lion]

thats cool

[plain iron]

Hell yeah

You telling me ima collect a toy and it levels up my punch? Fuck yeah [I want the collectables to be little rabbit plushies please]

[graceful lion]

we BETTER have a daisy collectible or something

[plain iron]

We need more daisy representation

[graceful lion]

beating ultra nightmare in tda gives you an outfit that makes daisy the grenade launcher

or just as a lil goober on your shoulder

[sleek ermine]

asking again, do you goobers think the new DOOM Slayer helmet will be limited edition? (Kinda like when it’s out of stock it’s gone forever)

[plucky plinth]

More than likely

They don’t keep stuff like that in-stock

[plain iron]

It's expensive to produce sometimes

[sleek ermine]

damn it

[sleek ermine]

did the DOOM Eternal Collector’s Edition ever restock

[hard thistle]

probably not

It is a collector's edition after all

[sleek ermine]

yeah. Problem is when I’m getting it it will likely be gone since like june

[sleek ermine]

just an extra souvenir. because it is collector’s means that it is for those who really want to collect everything. Doesn’t mean that it should never restock

[hard thistle]

I mean you could probably find someone selling one somewhere

I mean besides how long has eternal been out for

[sleek ermine]

only place I’ve found is unreliable old Ebay

[plucky plinth]

Nope, never

[hard thistle]

not surprising it hasn't

[vapid root]

Is it out, yet???

[devout cove]

Soon

[sleek ermine]

My to do list to play the game:

1. The game
2. Graphics card
3. More RAM
4. Intel i7 something

[kindred summit]

Don’t worry you will have ebay

[plain iron]

Not for a price that's reasonable

[sleek ermine]

I don't really trust E-bay but ok

[kindred summit]

😭

[summer obsidian]

Morning

[cinder rain]

Hi, i have a doubt. Will The Dark Ages haves AI instead of voice actors? I think i saw a post about it once.

[summer obsidian]

I wonder how fast the helmet will sell. I get paid on Thursday next week, will buy it then

[summer obsidian]

Highly doubt they would do something so stupid

[hard thistle]

ID is a company why would they use AI voice actors when they could just hire people to act

[cinder rain]

Is because on the Steam page of the game i saw the languages and it's seems it will be dubbed to many languages except Spanish, which is unfortunate for me. And im worried they will replace the Spanish dub for AI

[sleek ermine]

I think they will only make as many helmets as pre orders

man

I should stop dreaming of getting that helmet

It will likely get out of stock forever

and my birthday is in October 😭

[summer obsidian]

If it is still in stock Thursday I’ll get it

[sleek ermine]

I think it will no longer be in stock when it gets out of pre order if you get it

[cinder rain]

Not that i like AI, that's not what i meant.

[summer obsidian]

Oh u mean in may when its released it wont be available

[sleek ermine]

probably

if that's how bethesda pre orders work

I think it works like "yo we got 12000 orders let's make 12000 helmets"

[summer obsidian]

That’s good for me I guess. Gl with urs

[sleek ermine]

I for sure ain't getting it unless I use my own money

[grim cloud]

Hebeth confirmed, but we pretty much already kew that

[grim cloud]

i wonder what new demons we han'vt seen yet, and which classics are coming back. Baron, Pain Elemental, Arch Vile comes to mind. Maybe queen spiderdemon?

[winter idol]

hebeth looks SUPER uac

[graceful lion]

cosmic baron

[grim cloud]

that is what i said on bluesky

[grim cloud]

hmm, baron in a space suit? There is also a concept art of a baron like demon, but i think that is somehting else, maybe a bruiser

[winter idol]

i do like how they dont really bother keeping the style motifs from previous games

like hebeth in eternal was not that high tech

[grim cloud]

its been hellified over the ages. hell likes to do a cyclopean remodel

[winter idol]

wasnt it locked inside mars

looks like they tried to go for an ancient stone design style

but now they are just going crazy with it

cause like who cares

[grim cloud]

well that might be to do land subsidence

[hard thistle]

It works anyway, Eternal is millions of years after. So that shit would be dust by then anyway.

[ebon shale]

Maybe there is just a historic City Center and Hightech stuff around. Look at most european cities, same thing castles next to skyscrapers

[winter idol]

when it comes to stuff between games, i tend to not really expect there to be a consistent visual style considering things change and they come up with new ideas

[grim cloud]

but the question might be, will the soul cube be in that lab too?

if we go by Doom 3 mars history

[hard thistle]

If it is, it'd just be a reference. This isn't Doom 3's Mars.

[plain iron]

It's been in the other nudoom games somehow 😭

Idk why tf Olivia had it

[winter idol]

her room was just a refrence room tbh

[plain iron]

Tf is she gonna do, yeet it at samuel when he's misbehaving

I love her room

It's a nest and it's great

Go white girl go!!!

Fuck up that demon destruction scores!!

[proud vine]

It was fun to throw in the middle of combos

Other then that i guess good panic tool?

[limber wagon]

Is it fake news on YT and gaming news sites that minimum requirements were lowered?

[oblique bough]

It's probably true

[sleek ermine]

It’s fake

[grim cloud]

i realize that, but i wonder if martian history is similar. We be playing in TDA martian history it seems. Could there be a soul cube variant?

[lucid rover]

Hey I was wondering if there is going to be new kinds of toy collectibles in tda what do you guys think?

[hard thistle]

Maybe. The Soul Cube comes from the Martians who are probably Sentinels, anyway. If there's a variant of it it'll be coming from the Argenta.

[grim cloud]

Three timelines (classic, doom3, nudoom) which share hell, that means hell has its hands in three distinct technological branches from both uac and argenta.

slayer starts in classic, and hopes dimensions. That means doom marine from doom 3 is chilling with PTSD, what nudoom "doomguy" is diong who knows. my head cannon says he is the super soldier that was once going to be the OG plot

[hard thistle]

I personally have the headcanon that if there's a "Doomguy" of every world, with only one of them being the Slayer, then the Intern from TAG is the "modern Earth" Doomguy.

He's brave, seemingly nonchalant in the face of evil, and seems to rebel a bit against authority. It's just, unlike our Doomguy he's not a roided out meathead.

He's Doomguy if he were a computer nerd instead of a Marine, is what I'm saying.

[grim cloud]

ill take that theory

[storm shadow]

Yes, Hugo confirmed in an interview that there will still be toys and vinyls in TDA.

[obsidian shard]

And There will be Upgrades for the Atlan and Mecha-Dragon

[grim cloud]

i need more numbskull demon toys. Ill finance it myself if i have too

[plain iron]

Frfr

I want more daisy representation

[wooden acorn]

Day 42 of 112

[upbeat lark]

I’m holding my excitement for the dark ages

[obsidian shard]

68 Days

For Premium Edition Slayers

[upbeat lark]

Yep preordered the premium edition

[obsidian shard]

Hell yeah

[obsidian shard]

I got the Collector's

Hope it comes in time

[plain iron]

I've ordered mine so i can pick it up on the 13th

[obsidian shard]

awesome

i got mine from gear store so i just hope there are no delays

[prime sentinel]

New clip of the soundtrack from finishing move on twitter

Sounds amazing

[plain iron]

Yeah I feel that, even with me picking it up I'm kinda anxious about it

Might get a digital copy

[obsidian shard]

ik its peak

[obsidian shard]

i probaly will too ngl

[plain iron]

Just to make sure yknow

I'd be shattered if I didn't get it on time

[obsidian shard]

same

Thats my only Concern for the Whole game is The Early Access😭

[plain iron]

It's gonna be fine

How buggy was eternal on release?

[obsidian shard]

it basically wasent

[plain iron]

Small bugs hopefully

Nothing game breaking I hope

[obsidian shard]

very minor diddnt even notice till 3rd play through

[plain iron]

Though I will piss myself laughing at jank nailgun physics

[obsidian shard]

true

[plain iron]

It's gonna be like the bow in tf2 😭

[obsidian shard]

but id knows there shit

[plain iron]

Yeah, I trust them

They haven't really made a really bad doom game

Produced bangers after bangers

[slender onyx]

the soul cube appearing in TDA would kick ass

[grave cave]

i cant stop listening to the DARK AGE trailer 2 music that Finishing move dropped!!!

[obsidian shard]

Its so peak

[grave cave]

8th time listening to it rn!

i was worried it wasnt gonna be as heavy but holy hell!! they did an amazing job

[obsidian shard]

Ikr, It's so good, Might be my favorite soundtrack yet

[grave cave]

yes!

[hard thistle]

In game version lowkey hits harder

[fierce galleon]

hey lads take a peak at this https://youtu.be/NKoV4zKCsHo

2 hours ago so might've already been sent here

yeah i scrolled up a bit it was DEF noticed by you guys

mistake on my part, sorry

[wooden acorn]

we're going to Hebeth in the dark ages right?

[hard thistle]

I gotta be honest I'm liking this a lot more than Mick's stuff so far

You bet(h)

I wasn’t too big of a fan of mick’s guitar work

I want to see the doomslayer hebeth all over the place

[wooden acorn]

doesn't make sense lore wise tho, cause in Eternal Samuel said the lost city of Hebeth was before the Slayers time with the sentinels

or timeline wise

[hard thistle]

We're shattering the whole timeline with this one 🔥💯

[wooden acorn]

lmao

[hard thistle]

Ive always thought that part of hebeth, specifically, was the only one that got lost

[plain iron]

We presume he just visited it

That or Samuel was being unreliable again

Hes just like Hugo fr

[wooden acorn]

I always interpreted it as the whole city being lost or fallen before the slayer came

[plain iron]

Same, I think he just went to visit

[wooden acorn]

but in the concept art they showed it looks intact and not destroyed

[plain iron]

Hrr it might be a separate area

[wooden acorn]

maybe...

[plain iron]

This is also set ages before eternal

[wooden acorn]

yee

[plain iron]

Natural degradation perhaps

[wooden acorn]

oh yea maybe

I get what you're saying now

[plain iron]

Yeah I ain't too good at explaining shit

[wooden acorn]

lmao you're good, neither am I

[plain iron]

It makes sense to me and that's all that matters

But yea, we only saw a bit of hebeth in eternal

And there is definitely UAC presence

[wooden acorn]

maybe that specific part was the most destroyed

[plain iron]

I mean. We did blast it with the bfg 10k

[wooden acorn]

and yea I got UAC vibes from the first trailer with that mech battle, looks like the outside of the mars facility

[plain iron]

Hmm

I could argue that it's the mars from classic doom

[wooden acorn]

at around 1:35 in the initial reveal trailer it looks a lot like the facility from 2016

with some sentinel portals and stuff in the back

maybe they merged somehow

[plain iron]

Well, we only saw the phobos and deimos base

Diemos?

Fuck idk

[wooden acorn]

really? I thought 2016 took place on mars

[wooden acorn]

it's deimos

[plain iron]

Nawh, I'm talking abt classic doom

[wooden acorn]

ah

[plain iron]

I don't think we actually saw mars

So any structure on Mars is unknown

[wooden acorn]

in the classic one I believe yea

was just phobos and deimos

but in 2016 we were on the main body of mars

[plain iron]

Which is fun, I wanted to go back to phobos

[wooden acorn]

yeee

maybe something happens with the gate of divum? But that's on earth

[obsidian shard]

Samuel was unreliable asf

Hence DOOM 2016'

[wooden acorn]

lmao fair

[obsidian shard]

Average DOOMGUY experience

[wooden acorn]

he does exist in every universe

[plain iron]

I presume do does Samuel

And the intern-

[obsidian shard]

the DOOM Slayer Fighting Hell causes weird stuff in the Multiverse (Thats How we get Skins)

[obsidian shard]

AJ Locasico

[wooden acorn]

maybe the skins are cause he spends time in his workshop tinkering

[obsidian shard]

and DOOMGUY is Mathew Watterson

[wooden acorn]

we did see him working on the 2016 suit in the fortress of doom

[obsidian shard]

UM Actually the art Book says otherwise

[wooden acorn]

aw man

[obsidian shard]

straight up causes the Multiverse to be unstable by fighting Hell

(hell is a living entity)

[wooden acorn]

interesting

forgot about that

[obsidian shard]

EVIL DEAD 2

[wooden acorn]

I only played the DLC for eternal once

[hard thistle]

Imagine if for the last ever doom game, we fight the physical manifestation of hell itself

[obsidian shard]

PEAK MOVIE

[wooden acorn]

it'll be like Minecraft where we're just punching the ground

[obsidian shard]

and yes

[obsidian shard]

SO much Lore in the Art Of DOOM and DOOM Eternal

[wooden acorn]

is it a physical book or just digital?

[hard thistle]

Its available online as far as i remember

For free

Search the art of doom eternal

[obsidian shard]

Both

[wooden acorn]

oh fun

[hard thistle]

Its on archive.org

[wooden acorn]

will read later

midnight is sneaking up on me

[obsidian shard]

peak website

[indigo oasis]

this game is going to be a classic

[grave cave]

P E A K

[upbeat lark]

YES

[fierce tendon]

They are also bringing back the imp from the first and second game

I can't wait

[prime sentinel]

as well as a version of the imp from the new games but with... hair? its really weird but that's definitely what they are

maybe the modern imp came from them combining with the classic imp somehow

[empty furnace]

were weapon mods dropped all together?

[prime sentinel]

I think the current theory is that weapons have upgrade paths

instead of being mods you switch between or something, straight upgrades? something like that we don't really completely know

[empty furnace]

ik we getting a dual plasma rifle

Or “accelerator”

[summer obsidian]

Morning chat

[empty furnace]

morning

[obsidian shard]

We see the Rail Spike become a 1 Shot Every Few seconds to a full assault Rifle

The Accelerator and Double Barreled Plasma Rifle are 2 separate Weapons from what the Edge Magazine says

The Skull Crusher has a Super Heated Bone upgrade and a reduced spread upgrade

The Shotgun can light enemies on fire

[prime sentinel]

yeah so they're just upgrades then?

[obsidian shard]

Upgrades we can swap I say

[prime sentinel]

weird there would be no footage of mod swapping so far

they're kinda being quiet about the progression system in game

[obsidian shard]

We know Nothing of The Rocket Launcher or Ball and Chain Weapon

(shoots a ball)

[prime sentinel]

I think the rocket launcher is a cannon in this one

that shoots cannon balls

[obsidian shard]

They are 2 separate weapons, I have pics of both

Ball and chain was like 5 frames before the Mace

[prime sentinel]

really?

[obsidian shard]

And Rocket Launcher is in the Screenshots

[prime sentinel]

to me that looks like it shoots cannon balls

the one from the screenshot

[obsidian shard]

Ya

[empty furnace]

“fuck you heres a cannon ball” - slayer

[prime sentinel]

but it has the skull on the side like the rocketlauncher from eternal

I want to see this "ball and chain weapon" you're referring to

[obsidian shard]

Edge Magazine Marty Says it shoots a cannon Ball with chains

[prime sentinel]

then what's the rocket launcher?

[obsidian shard]

I sent a friend request so i can send the pictures of em

[prime sentinel]

I accepted

I assumed that second one was an energy weapon

I see how it might be a ball launcher though

[obsidian shard]

Ya

It's interesting to say the least

[prime sentinel]

we'll have to wait and see I think

[obsidian shard]

We have a Shoulder gun and Ethereal Daggers as Runes apparently from the Edge Magazine

[prime sentinel]

not too long to go now

[obsidian shard]

And the Flail can light demons on fire

Flaming Flail

[obsidian shard]

67 Days for Premium Edition Slayers 69(nice) Day for All Slayers!

[prime sentinel]

haven't preordered yet

planning on getting premium for early access and the dlc when that comes

still saving for the pc I'm gonna play it on lol

[obsidian shard]

Cool

I have a console, my brother is The PC Guy (even though I have to help him when the issues acurre)

Just a Series X with 4k 60FPS TV with a 5.1 Speaker Setup

[prime sentinel]

I'm so used to 144 fps that's what I hope to be able to play it at with the new set up

[obsidian shard]

Nice

[obsidian shard]

What parts are ya getting?

[prime sentinel]

not completely sure yet

I have to get the funds together, when I have it all together who knows what the availability will be like

rn, for instance, the 5070 TI is more available and cheaper than the 4070 TI Super

[hard thistle]

hi

[obsidian shard]

I see

[obsidian shard]

Howdy

[hard thistle]

i bought dark ages standard yesterday... I wanted the premium :sadge:

[summer obsidian]

Can u cancel

[hard thistle]

I know, but I still didn't have the money so I had to settle

It was the standard or nothing so I preferred the standard

[prime sentinel]

May can't come soon enough, for real

[summer obsidian]

Type shit

[prime sentinel]

the new music clip references Running from Evil from Doom 2, wonder if this will be the combat music for the first level

[obsidian shard]

Awesome

[hard thistle]

I'm not in a hurry either, I'll buy the DLC later and that's it, and I probably won't even get to the DLC because I'm known for NEVER finishing a game, I suffer from ADHD...

[summer obsidian]

Ur a lot smarter than me

[obsidian shard]

They cooking so good

[summer obsidian]

I don’t suffer from it I thrive form adhd and autism

[hard thistle]

literally me

today i just started sekiro and diablo 3 at the same time lol

[obsidian shard]

New concept are dropped

[summer obsidian]

Oh no

[obsidian shard]

Every weekday at 7 30 for me

[summer obsidian]

Rn I’m working an a casting project in jewelry. Making a mark of the slayer medallion type thing and it is difficult as hell

[obsidian shard]

That sounds coolasf

[summer obsidian]

It’s very difficult to carve such a detailed shape all the same depth

[prime sentinel]

the plasma lab concept art?

[obsidian shard]

Yup

Hebeth

[prime sentinel]

they really did translate the concept art almost 1:1 in the game, pretty rad

[hard thistle]

If I could send photos I would show you that it is true xddd

above while I'm downloading doom eternal

[prime sentinel]

saw the clip of the Khalim city street and it looks brilliant

[hard thistle]

My PC explodes or everything is fine🫂

[prime sentinel]

exactly like the concept art

[summer obsidian]

Looks similar to the tokens the sentinels give u in eternal but no where near that size

[plucky plinth]

I knew I recognized a riff from somewhere…

But I hope they do make it the first level track

[grim cloud]

more nuggets, keep them coming!

[wooden acorn]

Day 43 of 112

[summer obsidian]

Weezer

[summer obsidian]

69 days nice

[wooden acorn]

[summer obsidian]

Cacodemon for president 2028

[grizzled thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/cacodemon-spinning-doom-gaming-gif-17251429

[summer obsidian]

I need another trailer

Or do what marvel does and post a random cut scene

[grim cloud]

i need some no commentary gameplay, i want a sneak peak on how the the a mission might play out and how it differs from the last two

[acoustic cosmos]

gonna have to play tda through cloud gaming wish me luck may 13

[chrome flint]

when does the collector’s edition release and where do i buy it? i’ve been saving up for the past 3-4 months for this single thing lol

[wooden acorn]

It should

[plucky plinth]

For the latter, you can buy it on PS Direct (and maybe the Xbox equivalent if there is one), the Bethesda stores, and possibly a few other places

[fierce river]

theres no glory kills in the next game yes?

[plucky plinth]

Reworked system, actually

I wish they removed them entirely, but a reworked system is better than nothing

[fierce river]

oh how so

[plucky plinth]

They’re not set animations anymore, pretty much

[fierce river]

i got doom 2016 and eternal im trying to do 100% on eternal rn im starting my ultra nightmare run soon

[plucky plinth]

And they are for the most part player driven

[fierce river]

oh ok

[plucky plinth]

Though, I am more than happy with what bits of the soundtrack we’ve gotten

I just straight up prefer Finishing Move’s work here

[fierce river]

im gonna try to 100% eternal before dark ages comes out

[plucky plinth]

Might be a damn challenge

Depends what you consider 100%, though

[fierce river]

yeah especally how im on console 💀

[fierce river]

getting all the milestone things

[plucky plinth]

If it’s achievements/trophies, shouldn’t be too annoying

[plucky plinth]

Apparently some will get bugged easily, so you may not be able to

[fierce river]

dang,

[plucky plinth]

But yeah, I’m personally either gonna try to do a second run of Doom 2 or actually play Plutonia before TDA

Not interested in Eternal and I’m already nearly done with my second 2016 playthrough

[final dune]

https://youtu.be/NKoV4zKCsHo?si=VWvn8h60lUUBZ0iO

[summer obsidian]

I hear some doom 1993 in there

And some TOTTFIY but that checks out cuz that was also based on doom 1993

[safe ice]

I thought I was the only one lol

kinda reminds me of Running From Evil from Doom 2

[fair elk]

https://platform.polygon.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/01/DOOM-The-Dark-Ages_03_Harbor-of-Souls.png?quality=90&strip=all&crop=7.8125,0,84.375,100

The zombie demon on the left. If you zoom onto its face, it looks like the Carcass from Eternal, but in its original full body form. It has the same dope-ass smile and has the red terminator eye on one side as well. I'm hoping the link works as I can't share nothing on discord

[cobalt fog]

Pinky new look

[cobalt fog]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-13597132752790194338

Leave us in suspense until we get a launch trailer, the dev direct was definitely enough

We don’t need anymore spoilers

[summer obsidian]

Having no more trailers would negatively affect the game

[cobalt fog]

Uhhhh no it would not lmao

This is not a movie

It’s a video game

We got 14 minutes worth of gameplay for a trailer along with an in depth analysis on EVERYTHING

Getting another trailer would not only be pointless but be a waste of time on their end

You could give the argument “to generate hype” but with everything they have shown us and 2 months left we have gotten plenty of info

And there’s probably not much to show

Honestly what we could use is music track releases on YouTube until the full game launches

Most games only launch 2 trailers at best

And instead of just a trailer we got a bombshell worth of a video that gave us so much info

[weak imp]

For you, how long will Doom TDA last?

[grizzled thicket]

forever

[weak imp]

doom still in our hearts

But for one run

2016 lasted 15h
eternal 20h
since TDA is full solo and he asked for 1 more year
do you think we'll get close to 30h? 35h?

[grizzled thicket]

I mean we can't really know how long it will be

[grizzled thicket]

more

[ionic void]

hard to say. the loss of glory kills is highly disappointing for me. the sliders for every facet of gameplay is kind of interasting though, might enhance replayability

[grizzled thicket]

the glory kills are stll there, just in a diffrent face

[ionic void]

its not. that wonky disjointed kick and shield bop is not a synced animation kill. there is no flavor or gravitas.

sure they serve the same purpose, but it is not the same mechanically

[grizzled thicket]

I mean the mechanic is there it just isn't a thingy

[weak imp]

It's true that the new glory is a shame but after 3 games I think it was necessary to innovate and I think that the new glory can make the very tanky gameplay of TDA more fluid.

[wheat sigil]

yeah, now you can do your own combos (which will hopefully affect stuff and have a nice skille ceiling) without having to watch an animation whete you do literally nothing lol

[grizzled thicket]

I agree

[wheat sigil]

the lack of the classic GKs are very good IMO

[ionic void]

i kind of disagree that its an innovation. the shield saw for examply is a multi-faceted tool that serves multiple purposes on one button. i would say that is innovaiton. the new glory kill system really just screams "we got tired of animating".

[wheat sigil]

one of my biggest issues with Eternal are the glory kills, and i don't have a lot of issues with that game

[grizzled thicket]

your opinion I guess, but I disagree

[wheat sigil]

why is a completely new system for finishing demons (that can potentislly be very intricate) not innovative?

[weak imp]

I don't agree
because the glory tended to pause in a rhythm that required being in the fut all the time
the idea of ​​making them as fluid as the gameplay is for me an interesting idea

[wheat sigil]

yup

[weak imp]

It s my opinion

[wheat sigil]

GKs are overhyped...

[grizzled thicket]

true

[ionic void]

i mean its not a completely new new system though. its press "button" to finish off enemy, but without any of the flavor features of the original system

[cobalt fog]

Gameplay wise

No clue it’s a really huge game considering they have decided not to work on multiplayer just to make its campaign

How long will it last in general before gets old? Depends on replayability and how much fun it is which I guarantee it’s gonna be a blast imo I believe it will last as long as 2016 did= forever

Eternal just didn’t last as long imo due to it being to fast and complex for people who play a little slower than others and have slow reaction times such as myself, the multiplayer was also cheeks so the only thing it had on it was its levels and awesome story

[wheat sigil]

i'd imagine it's a complege combo system and how you finish them off depends on your situation, meaning more decision making
we also saw some type of charges for the melee in the trailer

[ionic void]

the "desinched" glory kill system is not part of the melee system, its just watered down glory kills.

[wheat sigil]

?
Eternal being faster and more complex means it lasts longer, it was very difficult for me at first (played on ITYTD and found it hard) but the depth of the combat has kept me interested

[ionic void]

we still havent seen the full melee system which i amlooking forward too

[cobalt fog]

Your not quite understanding what I’m implying

Eternal is a great game and imo has zero flaws except the obvious multiplayer it’s just get good

BUT

It’s a very fast and complex game requiring multiple inputs at a rapid rate

If you slow down you will die

[plain iron]

Eternal has hundreds of flaws

[cobalt fog]

You have to keep up with pace

And that’s something lots of people struggle with

[plain iron]

No game is ever perfect

[weak imp]

I hope it will have a lot of solo mode outside of the story that is really fun

I would love a mode outside but where all the weapons, powers and stages are random
a kind of rogue lite Doom infinite

[cobalt fog]

I agree

[cobalt fog]

Hoard mode

[plain iron]

I know a lot of people who hate how eternal is

[ionic void]

i do like the direction theyre taking to reduce the amount of seperate inputs required for gameplay

[plain iron]

It's not really what the rest of the doom games are like

[ionic void]

having 9 weapons is cool but its an unrealistic amount of keybinds

[cobalt fog]

I liked eternal but what I’m trying to say is some people can’t have instant reactions no one is perfect and eternal requires you to be perfect

[weak imp]

Hoard ?

[wheat sigil]

which is why you can play it more until you don't struggle with it🙂

[plain iron]

M1 how many hours do you have I forgor

[cobalt fog]

That’s not how it works when you have cognitive disability’s that slow reaction times dude

[wheat sigil]

currently i sit on 1071

[plain iron]

Me fr

[plain iron]

Bet bet

[cobalt fog]

This is why some people can play eternal but nightmare or UN is near impossible for them

[plain iron]

See I rest at around 800, but I got 2 things dampening me

[cobalt fog]

Same

Which is why I prefer 2016 over eternal

Sure it’s nowhere near as cool

[plain iron]

Mentally/physically disabled and I play on console

[cobalt fog]

Same here

[plain iron]

I'm sure I'd be cracked but i hate keyboards [they hurt my hands]

[cobalt fog]

Ive tried UN but due to my disability’s it’s near impossible

[plain iron]

But I'm very happy about TDA and its sliders

[cobalt fog]

The only fast paced game I’m decent at is DMC

[plain iron]

If you can count it as fast paced, I'm alright at hollow knight

[wheat sigil]

do you mean you can't improve at the game?

or is improvement slower?

[cobalt fog]

I can’t improve at how fast I react which is necessary

[plain iron]

Cognitive disabilities make it nigh impossible

[cobalt fog]

You can also get very overwhelmed based on whichever disability you have

[plain iron]

Autism is one of these disorders that causes it [at least for me]

[wheat sigil]

reaction time is not that important in eternal though, smart movement is probably the most important thing

[cobalt fog]

I highly disagree

You need both

[plain iron]

Movement is a response to the demons around you, that's a response

[cobalt fog]

And you also need to remember to make use of everything you have

Which with memory issues can also be a problem

[wheat sigil]

you can get that down to muscle memory

[ionic void]

id say positioning and spacial awareness are the two most important skills.

[plain iron]

For you maybe, not for everyone

[cobalt fog]

^^^

[ionic void]

you can make the game less reliant on reactions this way

[plain iron]

My very perception is slow

[cobalt fog]

I completed the games dlcs on nightmare but that wasn’t without lots of death

[plain iron]

If I see something coming to me I physically cannot respond in time

[wheat sigil]

eh, reaction time really isn't that important in Eternal
simply by not getting tunnel vision, sometimes switching weapons, and moving around smart can get you through any base game content i'd say

[cobalt fog]

Prowler and whiplash would like to have a talk

[plain iron]

fuck em

I mean, one lock on burst deals w the whiplash

[cobalt fog]

True

[wheat sigil]

what about them? they don't disprove what i saif

[plain iron]

But it fucking tosses you around

And if you're moving fast it can be hard to lock on

[cobalt fog]

They can throw you off balance while trying to concentrate and stay focused

[wheat sigil]

yes i love being a ping pong ball because i'm playing on uncapped fps!!

peak...

[plain iron]

Jokes on you I play with limited frames

Mm yes caps

[wheat sigil]

xd

[plain iron]

It gives me a headache if it's too high

Motion sickness or smthn idk

[cobalt fog]

Here’s the point, you can say at the end of the day that the games fine and requires no fast reaction times and it’s a skill issue but your incorrect and 2 people with disorders can prove you wrong

[wheat sigil]

i only get motion sick if i turn look smoothing off, or whatever it's called, i forget

[plain iron]

Literally tho

Like I don't expect someone who doesn't have a issue like that to understand

But when two folk are saying "hey no that's not how it works" maybe listen

[cobalt fog]

Have you ever had a problem where you get cornered and a mancubus does the death fart like 3 times while your chainsawing

[plain iron]

LITERALLY

[cobalt fog]

Fuckin hate that shit

[plain iron]

I can deal w cybermancubi easy

Not the regular ones for some reason

[cobalt fog]

Honestly I’m a bit of an issue on both

[wheat sigil]

i'm not trying to come off as elitist, and i apologize if i do, i will also not pretend to understand exactly the difficulties you guys have
but, there are very likely a lot of things you could improve in your gameplay, the easiest of them being to keep moving in a lot of situations (applies to 95% of the playerbase, at least)

i don't think essentially anything renders anything in eternal impossible, but it can provide extra difficulties

[cobalt fog]

They aren’t impossible but if they all come back to the same issue-stay moving or your dead

[wheat sigil]

yes, that's probably the most common issue for players

[plain iron]

Yeah until you have to stop or your hand cramps up

[cobalt fog]

I would agree with you if I I had done dlc nightmare runs like 3 times for fun

[plain iron]

Or general agonising wrist pain

[cobalt fog]

That or you have twitchy eyes from staring at the screen lmfao

[plain iron]

fucking carpel tunnel

[wheat sigil]

i'ma be real, sounds like suboptimal gaming conditions

screams skill issue ngl

[plain iron]

It comes from drawing for too long 😭

My hand is constantly being used w a pen

Shout out to hypermobility and fucking my hands up

[wheat sigil]

repeat playthroughs are overrated... i hopped on MLs too early and then custom content too early xd

but i mean it eventually worked out

[plain iron]

Though I can tuck my thumb behind my hand so it's cool

[cobalt fog]

I just like repeating playthroughs

I like trying out new weapon swap combos

[wheat sigil]

for sure, that's dope shit

i use every single mod and weapon in the game except mobile turret, very fun to be utilizing all dat

(also except super weapons)

[cobalt fog]

I usually just use SS PB because it’s cheaper then draining through ballista ammo

[cyan lotus]

It’s also higher dps

[wheat sigil]

i don't really use pb ssg a lot, barely anything at all

[cobalt fog]

Is PB stronger than ballista?

[grizzled thicket]

damn

[wheat sigil]

if i use the ssg it's for meathooking, shooting after a meathook, do a random ssg shot to end a combo, or to punch cancel it in close range

[grizzled thicket]

not per hit

[cyan lotus]

No, but it has a faster bring up speed, and you’ll outmatch the DPS by cycling through your weapons faster

[cobalt fog]

Ah

[grizzled thicket]

and it uses less ammo

[wheat sigil]

that too

ballista ammo is vital for stuff like ballista boosting and dblade plus heat blast

[cobalt fog]

I also know you can shoot your pb fast if you use it then punch as for some reason a punch counts as a weapon swap which I did not know till I watched a speedrunner

[cyan lotus]

Pb Ssg honestly goated combo I still find myself using it sometimes

[grizzled thicket]

I use it always

[wheat sigil]

you can do that with all weapons that have a cooldown

[cobalt fog]

Ballista go brrrr

[cyan lotus]

I have a document on most tech pinned in the #doom-eternal channel

[wheat sigil]

https://youtu.be/ANlVbkxkVA8?si=7dzesQMCvdd_qnhS&t=45

punch cancel examples

[weak imp]

Do you think gameplay modification parameters are a good thing?

[wheat sigil]

yes of course

anyone not thinking so is rage baiting

[weak imp]

For me too

[raw relic]

why does demo have so many dislikes?

[weak imp]

Demo for what ?

[raw relic]

take a wild guess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14kEU1qe0Z4

[hard thistle]

I would dislike it too if i saw that fuckass ai generated thumbnail

[cobalt fog]

Fuck yeah dude

The people who say opposite are either looking for attention or just don’t like doom and have never played it

Especially that one guy on YouTube who was obsessed with 2016, ran the game like shit, claimed he had know coding and said the difficulty sliders would make the game buggy

What a moron

[weak imp]

The more I talk about it, the more I dream of having this fucking game in my hands.

[cobalt fog]

Yeah I’m excited for it

I can’t wait to do some iron flail combos

[hard thistle]

Can we expect a trailer next week

[cobalt fog]

No

💀

[weak imp]

Sûre !?

afterwards...personally I'm afraid of seeing too much and spoiling the discovery...

[cobalt fog]

Which is exactly why I believe e won’t get it

[plain iron]

Yup

We are getting art tho

And music bits

[weak imp]

A trailer ?

[tribal orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/kj-final-ride-kj-dance-flex-work-gif-13305571803634765696

[hard thistle]

Normally trailer 2s for films games and whatnot drop 2 to 4 months before their intended release date

[cobalt fog]

Correct

[hard thistle]

If not next week maybe late march or early april

[cobalt fog]

I believe we will not get one as the developer direct was practically everything you could put in any trailer

And if they reveal anymore they are just spoiling at that rate

Which is fine

I think the alternative is to release music tracks from the game

Which it seems finishing move is doing

[weak imp]

personally I must have watched the 12 minute video about 50 times
and that's enough for me
I don't want to see more
that's why I don't look at the artwork poster
I want to discover the rest of the game with the controller in hand

[cobalt fog]

Same here dude

I feel like I’ve watched that developer direct like 15 times

With the exact words

Block

Throw

Deflect

Parry

All from one input

Buried into my brain

[hard thistle]

Rookie numbers

[weak imp]

plus if the story lasts 35 hours or more
i want to discover everything with virgin eyes

[cobalt fog]

Agreed

I honestly I’m just waiting for more music tracks to release

Unchained predator is peak

[weak imp]

Hop
2 avril
Doom TDA annonced in switch 2

[cobalt fog]

Here’s a question

Who’s the final boss

Prince ahzrak

The Titan demon

[weak imp]

Titan in Nabad ?

[cobalt fog]

Ye that’s what I mean by titan demon

We saw him in the dev direct

[weak imp]

yes i know but i don't think it's him
we know how he's going to die like the final boss of Eternal

[cobalt fog]

Maybe in a dlc?

Actually wait no

[weak imp]

I think the devs are planning something big for us
but they're not showing it

[weak imp]

No

[cobalt fog]

That wouldn’t make sense lmao

Idk why I thought that

[weak imp]

You kill a titan with a creuset

[cobalt fog]

As that event takes place like right after the divinity machine

[weak imp]

But i say
You say

I think the final boss will be something we've never seen before.

[cobalt fog]

I think it will be prince ahzrak

They have shown very little of em

[weak imp]

a total surprise as Martin knows how to please us

[weak imp]

Mayby

@cobalt fog Do you think the BFG will be there?

[cobalt fog]

I think this will be the first game without it

I think we will have a weapon to replace it that fits the theme of the game

[weak imp]

I think too

I think we might see the 3 priests and the Kahn Maykyr again because he was there during the early days

I also really look forward to getting to know Valek better.

[cobalt fog]

Agreed

[cobalt fog]

Maybe we will see his son before he died

[weak imp]

I really hope so

I think my biggest hype is to finally see the night sentinels in action that we have been teased about since 2016.

[copper torrent]

There are versions online where it's just the gameplay and music, no narration, in case you'd like something like that

[cobalt fog]

I don’t have a problem with narration

[copper torrent]

Neither do I, but it's cool to just hear the pure gameplay and the music unobstructed

[obsidian shard]

Yall know The Guy from DOOM3

That becomes that Skeleton Dragon

Uh what if Azhrak Becomes that

[final dune]

so azhrak is betruger?

[prime sentinel]

I really highly doubt it

The BFG will be there for sure

There’s still technology in this game as proven by the Hebeth lab clip, and multiple other points in trailers and the gameplay showcase

You can’t really do doom without the BFG, it’s a massive tradition. I bet we’ll get another power weapon as well like in eternal, but the BFG will be there

It would be cool if the BFG was from the doom slayer’s old dimension and the maykrs confiscated it and you have to get it late game

At this point doom without the BFG is like doom without the ssg

[scenic lichen]

ahzrak is def one of the bosses but maybe not the final

the khan maykr was the main villain in eternal's campaign but the icon of sin was the final boss

[cobalt fog]

Imo the titan demon would be the main villain or demon or big bad you kill first and then ahzrak

[raw relic]

i understand why the video has this many dislikes its not bc of gameplay

its bc of the lack of it

https://youtu.be/14kEU1qe0Z4

[plucky plinth]

it's so disliked because it uses an AI generated thumbnail

[plain iron]

Ew ai

[teal nebula]

Hello