the-dark-ages

[honest vortex]

It also feels like a great balance and mixture of Eternal's and 2016's style.

But yeah Quake 1/DOOM 64 is definitely mixed in as well

[hard thistle]

You’re a lifesaver

[remote thunder]

true, would still prefer no slowdown

[fluid vale]

Found the official policy for the base level:

Gear Candidate Benefits
1 Point per us dollar spent
Shipping Discounts: $150USD or more - Free US; $15USD discount international

[hard thistle]

THANK YOUUUU

[waxen glacier]

105 days...

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/431265631866716186/846166318155431936/image0.gif

[merry spade]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doomguy-gif-15980962764398322199

[eternal basin]

Thats everyone soon

[eternal basin]

Soon...

[grave cave]

demons days are numberd

dooms day is gonna happen

they better start counting

[haughty idol]

Whats the lore reason imps are like 8 feet tall

Imp literally means small demon why are they so large

[maiden snow]

I wish it was may 15 rn so I could have doom dark ages

[graceful lion]

whats the lore reason elena richardson said doomguy is a god when he isnt

because thats kinda the only thing she is capable of comparing him to, because she doesnt really know what a god can do

but anyways, probably because the devs can do waht they want

[haughty idol]

Except he literally is

[graceful lion]

no?

at most a demigod, if you wanna stretch it

[haughty idol]

he canonically is

[graceful lion]

he cant move at the speed of light, and he cant one punch man a titan

[haughty idol]

He literally has the power of davoth

[graceful lion]

ok?

also no, not really

davoth can corrupt an entire realm, doomguy cant

he has his physical powers, for sure, he was sort of a copy of him, but a bit weaker

[haughty idol]

Neither can vega

🤷‍♂️

[graceful lion]

"The Slayer is a bona-fide Primeval, of which the greatest comparison you can make would be a demigod" - m0no, lore expert

[hard thistle]

Correction: The Slayer is canonically a Primeval, or at least a bona-fide Primeval.

Primevals aren't Gods, they're more like demigods. Davoth was not a God in the sense that he was all-powerful; just in the sense that he was the progenitor. The first man.

I think he's more an Adam figure than he is a God anyway.

[graceful lion]

that makes alot of sense

then what is vega exactly, or do we not know?

[hard thistle]

The Slayer does have Davoth's power... which should show you Davoth was only as strong as the Slayer is in the modern games. i.e. he was very strong, very persistent, had an infinite lifespan, but still had limits as an organic being.

[graceful lion]

didnt davoth just not have a physical form, he doesnt need it to do stuff

[placid saffron]

he's kind of lucifer if lucifer's revolt against god succeeded

[hard thistle]

The Father is just a machine that Davoth created, one that was incredibly advanced and powerful - evidently, more powerful than Davoth.
Whether this makes him a Primeval or not is up to interpretation. It's unclear if a Primeval is a species, or simply a title you give to the strongest being in a given realm. The Father would be this if we go by the latter.

[graceful lion]

altho evidently, you cant kill the creator

[placid saffron]

doomguy literally did

[graceful lion]

interesting

[graceful lion]

well, doomguy is kinda a ""good"" copy of davoth in some way

but also davoth (as far as i know) isnt the strongest being in all realms or whatever

but yeah in this case the creator was killed

[placid saffron]

yeah and he used his regular ass blade and regular ass guns to kill him, he didn't do a god hadouken

[graceful lion]

yeah

[placid saffron]

he probably was untill he got his powers stolen after a coup détat from vegafather

[hard thistle]

The Book of the Seraphs depicted Davoth as a physical man when the Father attacked him. You could argue this is just metaphor, but I personally doubt it.

What I think is the most likely interpretation here is that Davoth was a very powerful "human" or human-like entity who was either the first of his realm or just the most notable. He built the Maykrs with advanced primordial machines, but there's no real depiction of godlike omnipotent power connected to Davoth.

Just vague statements that we came from him and that he made XYZ. Emphasis is placed on the fact that the Maykrs are machines in nature - thus, they were built, rather than whisked into existence by a magic God.

[placid saffron]

machinery is no different then organic when we're talking about beings this advanced

just our 2 know ways to make complex systems

and we can't really do much with biological stuff yet because we lack the knowledge

[hard thistle]

I think people take the whole "inherent connection to Hell" thing a bit too seriously when it comes to Davoth and the assumption he was ever all-powerful or omnipotent. Like the Icon, this quality doesn't seem to be a display of power or strength as much as it is simply an inherent quality of Davoth as a Primeval. His mental state corrupting Hell and his consciousness living inside it after "death" is not, IMO, evidence of any sort of omnipotence as much as it is simply an inherent and biological chain that links Davoth and Hell.

[hard thistle]

That's fair.

[hard thistle]

Hugo Martin claims that the Mysterious Voice was an even more omnipotent being that created Davoth, and implied this would be explored in a future game.

(Mysterious Voice as in the voice that yells "NOOOOO" when the Khan Maykr dies. The one that was briefly subtitled "Dark Lord" when TAG1 was out.)

[placid saffron]

😴 megagod

[hard thistle]

But it's up in the air as to if it'll actually be explored and I think Hugo has more than displayed that his statements are not concrete.

My opinion - I think it's likely this was supposed to be the Dark Lord before they decided the plotline that Davoth made the Slayer to attack the Maykrs. Once this was established in TAG2 they changed the subtitle and said it was a glitch.

Either this or it actually was a glitch and the Mysterious Voice is just some cryptic bullshit we may or may not see more of later, and it always was.

[graceful lion]

oooo

but also, probably by coincidence, the title of the song "the only thing they fear is you" actually makes sense, since doomguy is just davoth but he doesnt control demons or something

[placid saffron]

davoth isn't really in the living memory of the demons

[hard thistle]

The issue with all this is that it begs the question - why does the Mysterious Voice care that the Khan has died? If it were the Dark Lord pre-TAG2, this would make sense because the Dark Lord has been relying on the Maykrs for dimensional access and invasion. But why would an omnipotent god thing care about the Khan?

[placid saffron]

and davoth also doesn't really contorl the demons, he was just a mere whisper for however long

[graceful lion]

yeah he can just make another one

[hard thistle]

I got the impression that Davoth is considered pre-history by typical demon culture. Someone they worship as an abstract figure but the man himself has long left the public consciousness.

We know the betrayal of the Maykrs, however, is a commonly-told and popular story in Hell. In 2016 Davoth is called The Nameless One, which I think is definitely, by Eternal, meant to tie into the Father "stealing his name."

[placid saffron]

i mean we already established that davoth was essentionally a super advanced engineer with some superhuman feats, why does someone "above" him need to be omnipotent?

[hard thistle]

Well, that's true. I will give you that.

[graceful lion]

true, if davoth isnt omnipotent and noticed that, then why would a higher being need to be so

[hard thistle]

Regardless, the story offers no explanation as to why a being supposedly higher on the cosmic hierarchy than Davoth, who is mainly disconnected from these events, would give a shit about the Khan. I guess we'll see.

[placid saffron]

it's because khan supported him in creating the retconninator

[hard thistle]

The Eternal Lorebook from the Collector's Edition also referenced the TAG2 twist long before either DLC came out - the demons mockingly refer to the Maykrs in their scripture as, IIRC, "parasites leeching off the tale of the Dark One."

[graceful lion]

lmao

so they just outright said "the maykrs are dickriders"

[hard thistle]

Yeah they hate the Maykrs. Their agreement is only out of strategy. As soon as the Holy Seal of Urdak was broken Hell betrayed their deal and started invading.

[placid saffron]

i mean why wouldn't they, the seal was the only thing keeping them out whilst the makyrs used their gates

if you can sieze the gate for yourself why wouldn't you?

and that's not even mentioning what all else is there in davoth's junkyard

[oak yacht]

The Xbox S series is going to run the dark ages? Or just the X series?

I want to know which Xbox I need to buy to play it

[slender night]

The S will run it

[oak yacht]

Thank you

[winter idol]

the S will "run" it

its going to be a pretty choppy experience

[glacial niche]

Ita going to be similar to the x

[tranquil ether]

Anybody know how much storage the game will take up? I just pre ordered it and I wanna know if I should start making space.

[shut whale]

There have been many demonic skull designs for demons like statues, insignia, weapons. Which demon skull would look good for Doom Slayer.

[hard thistle]

According to the Steam Store page you should have at least 100 GB of free space.

[tranquil ether]

Got it. Thanks

[latent fractal]

does anyone know if the new melee weapons are all binded to different inputs? or can we only equip one at a time?

[lyric leaf]

just one input I think

[latent fractal]

damn alr

so i guess we have another button to toggle all of them?

[hard thistle]

Pretty sure you don't even toggle.

The way Hugo worded it you simply have one button to use melee and the Slayer probably just gets out a random weapon whenever you press the button.

I get the feeling the weapons and their differences are only cosmetic and don't actually change the melee.

[latent fractal]

that would not make sense though. each weapon plays completely different from
one another. they are not just cosmetic

the flail seems to be able to hit enemies from further away, the electric gauntlet seems to be able to chain lightning in a giant aoe, and the mace looks like it does a ton of damage on a singular target with a 1 use only (it also had a big shockwave effect, so maybe a stun aoe too?)

adding different weapons for the sake of being cosmetic would be the last thing doom would do tbh

[hard thistle]

Their only organic bits are specifically because of Transfiguration. Maykrs are implied to be fully synthetic in their natural form.

I don't think organic flesh is required to be corrupted though in any case.

I think the term soul is debatable in any case to begin with.

I am specifically referring to there being a distinction at all in regards to them being machines. The two things don't correlate. The Father has a "soul" because he is conscious and self aware, not because of anything organic.

Wrong reply.

[fluid vale]

Anyone have a good/recommended overall lore video for the series? Not that I need to go crazy in depth but I'm sure there's plenty I've missed with mostly only playing casually and not reading everything

[hard thistle]

I can't really recommend any specific videos but there is a Lore FAQ and guide in the pinned messages of #general.

OK.

[civic flume]

Anyone know what the price of doom the dark ages will be when it comes out?

[simple mist]

What are you looking forwards to in TDA? For me: its probably gonna be the intresting new take on the combat. (70$ for the base version)

[civic flume]

Thanks, as for what I'm looking forward to, the new combat system, that, and I want to see the new eapons, the shotgun and the accelerator are probably gonna be what i want to see the most, I saw a scene with aht looked liek the nailgun from quake 2

[hard thistle]

Probably. It's unclear. I'm not too sure if you could consider Drones to have souls - that'd probably imply autonomous thought, and the Maykrs are practically a hivemind.

[fluid vale]

FYI greenmangaming has base and premium 15% off. I think fanatical was 16?

[hard thistle]

Yeah. Maybe Angels.

[civic flume]

Odd question, I own every currently released doom title, is that odd?

[cyan lotus]

No, fairly common even

[civic flume]

Sounds about right

Thanks for confirming

[lyric leaf]

so do I

[civic flume]

....? Final doom yes, doom 1 and 2 classic? Yes, what is doom vfr?

Then sadly I am missing one, now I'm pissed, is it expensive?

I hate that I never know when things exist, this wa slike when I found out there was resident evil games for the wii

I'm gonna go look doom vfr up

[hollow sandal]

@civic flume are they physical copies

[civic flume]

Most of, no

I've played GBA and ps1 doom, jsut don't own them...how many titles have I not heard of M

Also, sadly its a playstion one, doom vfr, I paly xbox, and switch

Doom vfr is palystion 4

[wooden acorn]

day uhhhhh 8 of 112

[slender night]

You can miss out on the ones this Olathirk listed; most of them are unobtainable and nobody cares about them

It will be relevant by the time people realize that DOOM 2005 was a good movie (never)

[wooden acorn]

voldemort is in the dark ages?

[slender night]

2005 was good 😌

[sonic turret]

So is anyone else thinking that the new Dark Lord is the guy inside the Gladiator's shield? I mean they've both got crosses on their foreheads.

[white musk]

Should I buy the collection edition for the dark ages?

[mild cave]

Is davoth gonna be added?

[hard thistle]

Said this in another channel but my running theory regarding that humanoid demon we saw in the trailer is that he is the Dark Lord of the First Age.

[sonic turret]

So if this is the first age, what wa stage age of Davoth and the Father prior to this?

And the age of classic Doom.

[hard thistle]

That was pre-history. Davoth's "death" at the hands of the Father brought about the First Age.

Okay, when the Slayer's Testaments said:

"In the First Age... in the first battle... one stood."
This is referring to the events of Doom 1993.

[sonic turret]

But pre-history would mean before recorded history however it was recorded.

[hard thistle]

The Father/Davoth lore shit happens before the First Age and Hell's "proper" history. Davoth's death signalled the First Age, and the first invasion Hell partook in during the First Age was on the classic Mars.

[sonic turret]

But didn't Hugo say that the Dark Ages would tell the story from the Slayer Testaments?

[hard thistle]

He said The Dark Ages will lead into the Slayer's Testaments, yes. We can presume that simply means the story being told by the majority of them.

The Slayer's Testaments begins with talking about the First Age but the vast majority of them pivot to talking about the Slayer's rampage on Hell after the fall of Argent D'Nur.

Thus we can assume TDA will end with the Betrayal, somehow.

[hard thistle]

My point is that the events regarding Davoth take place so far back in the past that they were before Hell as it is naturally seen. Davoth's bullshit corrupted Jekkad into Hell, but you can take the First Age to be Hell's proper beginning of modern history.
I guess another way to see it would be how humans consider BC vs AD - the beginning of modern history. The Davoth shit happens in "BC" for Hell.

[ivory ibex]

Controller support question; by any chance does dark ages on the xbox series x support mouse & keyboard input? Tried doing this on Eternal and found it didn't have support to my dismay...

[graceful lion]

well, im not sure if id software would have any sort of software made by players or otherwise to allow mnk support

ah nope it doesnt look like it so far

just pray they add mnk support

or also, you can try getting used to doom controller gameplay, they can do some crazy shit too

[ivory ibex]

Dratz, yeah I'm at a point where a new pc may be on the horizon and prefer mnk, but could certainly look to get more proficient with regular controller play.

[mighty hedge]

this game bouta be lit

[graceful lion]

well, you can go to somewhere like newegg if you're in the us, and pick parts based on your needs

i'd estimate somewhere around 1000us would be plenty for a TDA (and future titles) capable system

[dreamy relic]

I'm kinda tempted too I'm not sure 🫠

[jagged lake]

yoo

wsp yall

[graceful lion]

you get something irl with it

[slender night]

Very likely, considering the game will be part of Xbox Play Anywhere

[hollow sandal]

I'm fucking excited for this game, guise

Attacks with the shield seem to give armor pieces

Kills with melee give ammo and health it looks like?

[wheat sigil]

yeah, that seems pretty cool

[proud vine]

all 3 melee options should basically be the replacement of the chainsaw, flamethrower and glory kills trio from the looks of it

[frigid tiger]

Just wondering something for people who are well versed in PC Specs. I'm switching platforms and, I have two choices.

PC is more accessible and so I'm wondering if the Rog Ally will be compatible with the new Dark Ages game? They have a spec sheet up but again I don't quite understand it because I've never messed around with PC Gaming.

If the Rog Ally Extreme can't run it, I'll just switch over to PlayStation lol

[brave sequoia]

just found out I won't be able to play TDA🫡 I cant afford an RTX card and whilst my has the other requirements, I still couldn't play the game, it sucks but it is what it is

we should go back to the days of games being able to run in anything fr

[plucky plinth]

I suggest start saving up for one now. The industry has dropped old gen consoles, so they don't need to optimize for hardware from 2013.

[plucky plinth]

This was never ever the case.

[brave sequoia]

imean, the old doom did, Rollercoaster tycoon did

[plucky plinth]

they didn't lol

Doom 1 could barely reach the 35 FPS cap that it had on a good amount of machines from the time

[brave sequoia]

nah, I cant afford it. My 1660 super is doing well still and I don't play enough games to make it worth upgrading

[plucky plinth]

the original Doom engine can run on basically anything now only because the hardware we have as of now is much more powerful

[sturdy stream]

I mean, the only thing that bugs me is the forced ray tracing

[brave sequoia]

yes that's my problem too

[plucky plinth]

True. But just don't be surprised when other new games are doing the same thing

this was going to happen eventually

[sturdy stream]

RT should be an OPTION since it decimates performance

and god forbid i want a game that can run well on a 3060 Ti

[brave sequoia]

thats the thing, I don't play other games doom is the only AAA I play

[plucky plinth]

at the same time it's a benefit for developers when it comes to development time

it's much quicker to make a level when a game does the light calculations on the fly

[sturdy stream]

at what cost tho...

[plucky plinth]

though, even the minimum required card for TDA is still 6 years old

[sturdy stream]

like yeah i get it's easier for the devs but the performance will suffer so heavily

[plucky plinth]

which is about the usual life-span of a console generation, give a few years maybe

[sturdy stream]

their recommended specs are a 2060 for 1080p 60fps on low i think?

and doom is a game where more fps definitely matters

hence why forced RT is NOT something thats all that great

[brave sequoia]

I also think games are filled with so much bloat nowadays and that, since storage is growing so much faster (or has been) than the games, so they had the freedom to have bloat

[plucky plinth]

yeah, the bloat is a major issue I am worried about

less so hardware requirements increasing as that's 100% expected

[cunning island]

well if it runs on the eternal engine it will run supper smooth either way

that engine is so well optimized

[plucky plinth]

but the rapid rate of games becoming more expensive and a need for more storage is worrying

[sturdy stream]

the problem is, is that it could be running WAY smoother

[brave sequoia]

I can run eternal perfectly fine so I don't see how I couldn't run TDAA

it's just the forced ray tracing

[plucky plinth]

already confirmed it isn't

[cunning island]

yeah fs

[plucky plinth]

it runs on id Tech 8

[cunning island]

oh it looked like it

[sturdy stream]

just kinda prayin the game plays well

[cunning island]

maybe better fingers crossed

[plucky plinth]

id is usually good at optimizing their engines

[sturdy stream]

but unfortunately it seems like this whole "forced RT" thing is gonna be a bigger trend than it is right now

[plucky plinth]

it was expected imo

[cunning island]

yeah

[plucky plinth]

I knew this exact thing was going to happen as soon as current gen came out

[sturdy stream]

highkey wouldnt be surprised if they were doing this to boost sales of 50 series cards in order for people to use MFG 😭

conspiracy theorizing asf rn but it wouldnt make me surprised

[cunning island]

just sucks becuase if you want good RT my 4070 alone runs had without dlss on and down to 1440p

you need at least the new tech from 50 series

to get high refresh rate gaming

[sturdy stream]

thing is, the industry is STILL focusing 60fps

[cunning island]

crazy

[sturdy stream]

which isnt bad obv, but higher refresh rates are only becoming more and more used

[plucky plinth]

which is I guess fine, but they should move away from it

[cunning island]

yeah and 1440p is the new 1080p

[plucky plinth]

I even see low budget monitors get over 60Hz

[sturdy stream]

most people that i know regularly play games, play at 120Hz+

[sturdy stream]

yeah that too

1440p at 144Hz in new AAA titles is unfortunately a luxury

WHICH I MEAN... its not that thats BAD

im just fine with things running at 1080p 144Hz but man

the fact im usually required to use DLSS in these new games to make them run ACCEPTABLY on a 3060 Ti

idk man..

ik its a mid-range card, but i shouldn't have to fight with the settings as hard as i possibly can to make it playable

[shut whale]

Honestly I hope the demons in Dark Ages have like 6 or 7 different attacks. The marauder in eternal ONLY had 2 axe attacks, projectile, shotgun, and wolf. I expected the marauder to have more axe attacks.

[tulip canyon]

https://youtu.be/y4qrRv7a4qo?si=HFOfsA2qmQKJWdSU

[fading kelp]

Midnight is better than underthemayo

[frigid tiger]

Oh I just love how everyone glossed right over me

[plucky plinth]

I doubt a handheld could handle the game tbh

[frigid tiger]

I heard it was going to be getting a switch 2 port but of course that'll be specifically cut down for the switch 2 only, not for the steam deck or rog ally or any other handheld gaming device

[plucky plinth]

never officially announced

[sand sparrow]

I think the specs are so disappointing

Especially considering how well optimized Eternal was

[frigid tiger]

Forced raytracing go brrr

[plucky plinth]

I'm not at all surprised by them tbh

[sand sparrow]

Why not?

[plucky plinth]

Old gen consoles got dropped and PC hardware heavily improved since 2013

[sand sparrow]

I don't think it looks that much better than Eternal tbh

And I'm someone who can notice the difference between The Last of Us and its remake

[plucky plinth]

developers don't need to cater to systems from that time period anymore

[sand sparrow]

Eternal came out in 2020 bro

[plucky plinth]

And?

Old gen consoles were still being catered by developers by that time

[sand sparrow]

And we are now in a period in gaming where graphics are barely advancing

Outside of Unreal 5

And even that is nothing compared to previous generation leaps

[plucky plinth]

old-gen is usually only supported 2-5 years after current-gen releases

It's been 5.

[sand sparrow]

It literally has forced raytracing

[plucky plinth]

4 if you want to be actually accurate with dates

[sand sparrow]

Like bruh

Why

[plucky plinth]

And current gen consoles have the capability for raytracing

like I said, they are optimizing for what's currently being supported

and that does transfer over to the PC versions of the game

this always has happened

Every. Single. Generation.

[sand sparrow]

Sure but why force it for people who may want a higher framerate

[sand sparrow]

Except PC is meant to be more customizable

[plucky plinth]

and it's a cross-platform game

it's not catered specifically for the PC market

like it would be better to not force RT

but at the same it was eventually going to happen

[sand sparrow]

2016 and Eternal had a lot of options you can tweak including turning ray tracing off

So I don't get the downgrade

I hope they change it

[plucky plinth]

I doubt it

[sand sparrow]

I am going to minecraft todd howard

[plain iron]

It has forced raytracing because it's apart of the actual gameplay, and not of the graphics

Basically bullets have raytracing

[delicate stirrup]

They should add the Reaper from 2016.

[vagrant path]

Reaper?

[delicate grotto]

Do you mean the Harvester?

[delicate stirrup]

No, the Reaper gun.

[delicate grotto]

Oh gotcha, yeah that gun design is pretty sick. Forgot how it worked though

Haven’t played 2016’s MP in a long, long time lol

[weary current]

tfw people are saying doom the dark ages is "woke" because of the sliders or some shit

do you guys not hear yourselves??? we're still gonna be stomping in demons left and right as with 2016 and eternal

true true

i was just pointing that out rq, but we'll move past that

i've been hearing so much of doom the dark ages going back to the classic doom roots, and from what i've seen in the gameplay so far, they were almost on the mark about that lol

[vagrant path]

Dude the amount of anti-woke le sjw grifters already latching onto this game are actually driving me insane

https://youtu.be/jX6PToECjnI?feature=shared
https://youtu.be/r9jb9PMqYRk?feature=shared

I hate ragebait slop I hate ragebait slop I hate ragebait slop I hate ragebait slop

like come on mate rent can't be that high

that you have to grift this hard

Like obviously they ain't gonna get a professional player to showcase the game otherwise that shit'd end way too quick

they need to be able to actually SHOWCASE the game

Anti-woke grifters when I hit them repeatedly with a frying pan (being awake is woke)

[cyan lotus]

Rent isn’t that high, because if it were they wouldn’t be doing videos on the doom series, which relative to other AAA franchises, is not raking in clicks en masse

[vagrant path]

True dat

they'd be making some slop on dark soulsborn ripoff number #42069

[cyan lotus]

This guys getting a couple thousand views per video at 1M subs, he either fell off like hell or bought his subs

[vagrant path]

I deadass hate how common these grifts are now

like shit, they say games shouldn't be political but then look at what they're saying LIKE DUDE UR DOING THE EXACT SHIT YOU SAY YOU'RE AGAINST AGAGHAGAGAGA

[cyan lotus]

I don’t think there’s a single doom content creator who currently could rake in enough ad sense to make a living with it

[vagrant path]

I think this game is gonna kick ass honestly

[cyan lotus]

I think it will as well

[vagrant path]

incel micro-celebrities opinions won't change that lmfao

This too

they're so bored and content starved they've started making shit up

it's the tf2 community all over again

I feel like certain artists of the internet are gonna enjoy this new character

YES

ITS THE RULE OF THE INTERNET

YOU CAN'T ESCAPE IT.

Real talk though I wonder who she is

she seems like an important character

maybe a sentinel sidekick to doom slayer?

maybe she'll be a companion in gameplay

that'd be lit

[next thistle]

Any thoughts on potential Master levels?

[half umbra]

I’m just hoping they’re in the game in general, I don’t care if they’re going to be re-runs of stages or some brand new ones

[copper gulch]

Is it coming out on only ps5? Or will it come out on ps4 as well

Awwwww man😭

[vagrant path]

Piss4 isn't advanced enough sadly

[languid granite]

Piss4 😭

[terse bolt]

Unfortunately the ps5 has no games 😔

[delicate grotto]

Current gen consoles will finally have a decent catalogue of new games by the end of this year. That is, if most of the games coming out this year aren’t complete flops.

Don’t think they will be but you never know

[elder niche]

[unreal tide]

Finally someone says it

Xbox and Switch are at the top rn

[summer summit]

Honestly, I always hate it when people still stuck on last-gen consoles say that current-gen consoles have "no games" and beg for games to come to last-gen consoles.

[plucky plinth]

this is literally the reason current-gen doesn't get games for a while lol

people still demand last-gen releases for a while, until the developers are sick of it and switch to the more powerful hardware so they have more to work with

[plain iron]

Like damn don't complain abt a situation y'all put urself in 🙄

[copper gulch]

I wanna play it so bad 😭 but I'mma be saving up for a ps5

[haughty idol]

And cod will still come to last gen

[idle gyro]

Do you think I should get the Collection edition of this beautiful game for 200$

[haughty idol]

Yeah but dont pre order it

You dont want to spend 200 dollars only for the game to end up not being good

[idle gyro]

Ok keep ripping and tearing until it done my brother

[dreamy relic]

Is recommend getting an Xbox series x and a game pass subscription

[haughty idol]

By whom

Xbox has been getting clowned on hard for a decade now

[dreamy relic]

You won't have to buy the game full price tho

[haughty idol]

You still have to buy the Xbox

[dreamy relic]

Plus you'll have access to tons of other games

[dreamy relic]

Better than buying a PS5 and an 80 euro game

[plain iron]

I fucking love my ps5

Silly creature

[sudden kiln]

May 15 is sooooo far awayyyy ugh

[lean badger]

i get my new xbox next month so i can actually run doom

[zealous crag]

80€ game is crazy work by putting a Price like that many people Will just not buy until prize cut

[river lotus]

Boys I'm getting the collectors edition

I need that statue

[past loom]

Ngl I don't mind no glory kills

I mean my first gaming experience with doom was doom 1 and 2 via the bfg edition. If anything this'll feel like a return to form with strafe gunning

[river lotus]

But there are glory kills they are just different

[past loom]

Ik

I just meant the kinds from 2016 and eternal

[river lotus]

I think they were good for their playstyle not for the stand and fight style of this game

[past loom]

Yea

I don't mind the more slowed down version

[river lotus]

Have you seen the jaytech stuff

It's hilarious

[past loom]

Hell I'm still somewhat getting used to being able to jump or look up and down outside of doom 3

[river lotus]

Lmao

That's gold

[past loom]

Imagine going back to 1993 and showing a random guy who enjoys doom the trailer for either eternal or the dark ages

His mind would melt

[river lotus]

Nah you would show them the best player

From eternal

[past loom]

"Man these graphics are so real"
"you ain't seen nothing, bud."

[river lotus]

Lmao

Yo have you seen the horrific take on tda from dspgaming

[past loom]

No

How bad is it

[river lotus]

It's....... bad

Too bad

To describe it in one phrase

God is dead and that was the weapon

[past loom]

I wonder what doomguy canonically eats

Besides pizza and the souls of the damned

[river lotus]

Why you put cheese on my cheeseburger

I had to

I'm sorry

He probably drink coca cola

[past loom]

My man probably drinks energy drinks because he thinks sleeping takes away from demon killing time

[river lotus]

He can't sleep

[past loom]

There are monsters outside his house

[river lotus]

No like in the lore he doesn't need sleep

Or bathroom breaks

So yeah pretty cool

[past loom]

Dude probably feeds off radiation

[river lotus]

'NO DICK, NO BALLS AND PROBABLY NO ASSHOLE CONSIDERING THIS GUY FEEDS ON RADIATION' -gojicenter

[past loom]

My man has evolved to the point where he no longer needs to get rid of bodily waste because his body utilizes everything he intakes and doesn't create waste anymore

[river lotus]

BTW did you know that if doomslayer encounters something more powerful than him he will just will himself to be more powerful than it

[past loom]

I wish i could do that

[river lotus]

Ikr

So technically he solos fiction

Because he will just will himself to be more powerful

So yeah doomslayer is busted

I got into a debate with my friend who was saying kirby beats the slayer but I was explaining to him how doomslayer would make himself to be immune to kirbys absorbtion

[past loom]

I can just imagine him encountering a super powerful demon lord and just for a few seconds stares at it angrily before just suddenly becoming even more powerful than it

[river lotus]

Yeah that's what happens

[past loom]

Literal Chihuahua energy

[river lotus]

Yeah

I wonder if when he was crushing the father's life sphere he willed himself to be more powerful than the father

[past loom]

I like how despite being 6 foot something, doomguy is still shorter than some other game characters

Like master chief

[river lotus]

Yet he would rip n tear

[past loom]

But tbf, chief is 7'2"

[river lotus]

DAYUM THATS A BIG BOY

[past loom]

Bro has to activately look down when someone talks to him

[river lotus]

Yeah

[vagrant path]

Just pre-ordered premium edition, can't wait for this banger

[river lotus]

Nice same here

[past loom]

Imma do that once I get a ps5

[vagrant path]

thought it's immediately charge me for it but it doesn't which is weird

[past loom]

Only one thing I'm gonna be upset about

[vagrant path]

guess I'll have to be a tight ass about my money until release

[past loom]

No mick gordon (can't blame him tho)

[river lotus]

I hate how people say no mick no doom boycot doom

It's so annoying

[past loom]

I mean he even said it himself.

He never quit doom or it's community. He just quit a toxic client

[river lotus]

Yeah but I think id has righted there wrongs

Imo

[past loom]

Just kinda wish they came out with at least acknowledging it

[river lotus]

I guess but at the end of the day I'm just happy Hugo wasn't a large part of it

Cus Hugo is just hugo

[past loom]

Yea

[river lotus]

I can't remember but didn't marty say something about mick

And then mick after a bit replied

[past loom]

I don't remember

[river lotus]

Neither can i

Can't wait for the game tho

I have been bouncing off the walls for this

I just cannot wait lmao

[past loom]

Same

[grave cave]

days are going quick yet so ssloooww

[delicate grotto]

Gonna start replaying every Doom game from start to finish while waiting for TDA lol. By the time I complete the games, (hopefully) TDA will be right around the corner.
A little skeptical about some design choices but I can’t judge it until I play it. The bits of gameplay we got aren’t a lot to go off of. Still super excited though.

[delicate grotto]

Yeah I agree.
I can understand the initiative to boycott since the dispute between ID and Mick was pretty horrible, but Mick even told the community to avoid boycotting the games.
I’m sure Finishing Move is going to deliver a killer soundtrack as well.

[river lotus]

An absolute BANGER

And even if it doesn't we can still rip demons a new asshole

[past loom]

I've also seen some people upset that it's gonna be story focused, like that's gonna take away from the game

[river lotus]

Bruh

That's just sad

[past loom]

Yes we all know what John Carmack said back in the day, but also keep in mind, that was over 30 years ago. Video games have had major changes and story in games have become better

[river lotus]

Doom is always gonna be DOOM!!!!

Whether these guys like it or not

[past loom]

I like how act man put it in his half life video

[river lotus]

Yes

As do i

Bro is making docs

[past loom]

Like look I too enjoy some senseless demon killing, but I also like having a reason as to why I'm doing the senseless demon killing

[river lotus]

I KNOW RIGHT

I must have a reason that I am talking too jabba the maykr

[past loom]

Plus I've been been wanting to play a game where we fight alongside the sentinels in the war against hell since doom eternal

[river lotus]

Hell yeah brother

[past loom]

I wanna fight a titan

[river lotus]

The sentinels watching the slayer run through millions of demons in an hour: dude why are we even here

RIP AND TEAR!!!

[past loom]

The sentinels watching some random dumbass from earth strafe fire and wall hump his way thru the hordes of hell

[river lotus]

lmao

[past loom]

Remember when doomguy had brass knuckles

[river lotus]

He has them on this game to if you look at his gauntlets

And on his mech

[past loom]

Nice

[river lotus]

Yeah when the mech does a charge up punch the brass knuckles appear

Also that dual chain gun is just sexy

[past loom]

Put mobile turret mod on it

[delicate grotto]

Curious if that Titan we saw in the Developer Direct Showcase is going to be a boss. Possibly even a boss for the Atlan part of the game.

[river lotus]

Which gun are you guys waiting to use the most

From what we know

[grave cave]

i fuckin love his gauntlet design

[delicate grotto]

It looks like that area might be Taras Nabad, and if I remember the lore correctly, a Titan destroyed it in a surprise attack.

[past loom]

That makes me wonder tho

How will killing titans in atlans work if they can only be killed with argent weaponry

[grave cave]

argent atlans?

[river lotus]

Obviously the Atlantic is infused duh

Atlan

[past loom]

I mean i guess they do have these big argent spears

[river lotus]

Yeah

[delicate grotto]

I’ve thought about that as well. We can definitely see one get shred to pieces in the gameplay reveal with a turret.
I mean, you can’t tell me he was still alive. Dude was nothing but red mist at the end.

[hard thistle]

We see that same titan in a different level too where he gets kicked into a pit. Wonder if hes a recurring enemy or just an armored version for titans

[river lotus]

Who here has got the collectors edition

[past loom]

I definitely feel like that scene with the titan getting kicked into a pit is a reference to 300

[delicate grotto]

Haven’t ordered mine yet. I’ve got to wait to upgrade to a new system. I’m also not sure about the price in general. No doubt about the quality, but I’ve already got a good amount of Doom stuff.

Might just order the basic version tbh

[river lotus]

I need that dayum statue

[hard thistle]

The zack snyder inspiration is heavy in tda

[past loom]

Yes

[river lotus]

Huh?

[hard thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-running-shield-gif-9421503152433868450

[river lotus]

Well duh

It has to be

[past loom]

Hopefully tho batman won't show up with guns

[river lotus]

Wait in the gif is that the icon?

[delicate grotto]

Yeah, I’m interested to see what happens with them in the game.

[river lotus]

It's skin looks a tad like it

[past loom]

I wanna see more organic demons using regular weaponry like the aggadons

[river lotus]

I agree

[past loom]

I like how the lore says hell knights are high ranking demon servants

But in gameplay they're just really buff imps that like to punch

[river lotus]

Yeah that's because they are fighting god

[delicate grotto]

Favorite thing about Doom 2016’s monster design was this exactly.

[river lotus]

Yeah

[past loom]

Satan's strongest soldier (an imp) defeating gods servant (some rabbit)

[stable elk]

Hell knight (WAS a high rank demon)

[river lotus]

Oh yeah it is canon that the slayer is or was christian

[past loom]

I mean i would be too if I saw demons invading

[river lotus]

Meaning they are fighting the son, the father, and the holy spirit

[past loom]

And then I later meet God himself turned into an ai

[river lotus]

Yeah

[delicate grotto]

Doom’s lore is very bizarre lol

[hard thistle]

I wish they went out of their way to make the hell knight look exactly like its classic counterpart instead of using the same design from the last 9 years

[river lotus]

Archangel Michael became a sentient robot called Samuel hayden

[stable elk]

It's kinda hard to understand the doom lore

[river lotus]

Gabriel is...... gabriel

Jesus is doomslayer

[delicate grotto]

I agree. I loved how the Gladiator was a callback to the classic designs. Who knows, maybe we’ll see a variant similar to it in TDA

[river lotus]

The holy spirit is the Khan maykr

[past loom]

I like to imagine that after the father overthrew davoth and gained his status as God, he kinda doesn't look like a maykr anymore cause he can take on any form imaginable cause omnipotence and then just did what God does in the Bible

[delicate grotto]

It’s convoluted no doubt, especially after Eternal’s DLC… Messy but fun. I appreciate the creativity put into it.

[river lotus]

Yeah that's my thought process too

[past loom]

So while yes davoth is THE first being, the father was the one who created everything else after him (mainly humanity)

[river lotus]

Bro the slayer is just jesus with anger issues and trauma

[past loom]

I'd say more of an angry saint Michael

[river lotus]

Nah archangel Michael is samur maykr

[past loom]

Nah don't do my boy Michael like that

[river lotus]

No because they both kinda advocate for war

Well Michael doesn't but he is the embodiment of it

Wait actually you are right Michael is the slayer on hundred percent

One

[past loom]

I wouldn't say war but moreso gods sword

[river lotus]

If Michael and the slayer met it would be Michael looking in a mirror

[past loom]

The father himself just appeared and disappeared

[river lotus]

Huh

Bro I'm the doomslayer and he just said stop son

Bad boy

Sit back down

That was hilarious

[past loom]

Ngl doom slayer with a fur cape looks cool tho

[river lotus]

He looks epic

Bro is captain DOOM

Also as I was saying if doomslayer appeared in heaven they just be like: welcome to heaven john

[past loom]

I wonder if they do dlc where he's trapped in hell again, if his armor gets badly destroyed and then he gets the 2016 praetor suit

[river lotus]

I already think that is what will happen

[past loom]

No more exposed muscles

[river lotus]

Unfortunate we lose a tad of testosterone at that but it's good

[tribal lagoon]

I do wonder what a DLC would be about. I’m assuming we’ll get to see some “post Doom 64” in Dark Ages in like a cutscene or something as well

Seeing him wearing a battered Doom 64 armor would be pretty cool

[past loom]

Dlc will probably follow the Civil war on argent d'nur

[tribal lagoon]

I’d assume that would just happen in the base campaign

[past loom]

And for a part 2 it could be how he and some sentinels would be trapped in hell

And eventually trapped in the tomb

[river lotus]

Yes

[elder knot]

I can't believe it releases may 15th lol

[past loom]

Not sure cause it'd be a very long time in between

[tribal lagoon]

It’s called Doom The Dark Ages and with the medieval theming Dark Ages would be the dark time in the history of the Sentinels, i.e the fall of Argent D’ Nur and the civil war

[river lotus]

Hell yeah

[past loom]

Nah I think base game will end with the set up of that civil war

Which could lead into dlc

Imagine fighting a non demonic marauder

[river lotus]

Poggers

Lmao

Oh wait @past loom who would jesus be then

[tribal lagoon]

I really doubt it, I feel like that would just be dragging things out. Either a DLC would focus on post Doom 64 (though not a lot of stuff you could get from that imo) or the DLC would focus on an entirely different character separate from the Slayer

[past loom]

Not sure

[river lotus]

He would be the Khan maykr

Just male

[past loom]

Nah i think very least dlc will be about the slayers testaments (cause those don't really go over the war but moreso go over his time trapped in hell again)

[river lotus]

They already said the dark ages would lead into those so that's in the main story

Most likely

[hard thistle]

The base game will most likely lead up to the civil war. Condensing hell’s invasion on argent dnur and the civil war all in the base game would kind of ruin the pacing and not give enough time to flesh out the story because the civil war lasts for years

[river lotus]

Fair

[copper torrent]

I've watched the gameplay an unhealthy amount of times, like I imagine many people here did. The new mechanics seem to be fairly simple. Shield and melee are new forms to beat enemies. Shield is generally helpful to throw, block, parry or stun. Melee has limited uses that recharge, like blood punch, unless the demon is dazed, which gives either a free hit (orange) or a free kill (purple). Simple and fun stuff

I suspect that biggest difference to previous games is gonna be that enemies are gonna be bigger and tougher, almost like mini bosses. They're gonna need more complex combinations of attacks. If these enemies require lots of specific inputs to beat, like Eternal, the people who disliked Eternal are likely still going to complain

[wheat sigil]

Enemies in Eternal did not require specific inputs to beat, and I'd expect that to be the case in TDA too

[copper torrent]

It did in the sense that you needed to circle around using almost all your tools, in higher difficulties at least. As much as I love Doom Eternal, as much as it's my favorite FPS, I have to admit that OG Doom (and 2016) had at it's core an appealing simplicity that Eternal just doesnt have.

[wheat sigil]

Well I mean, how you traverse the arena is up to you, I personally don't circle around a specific enemy. Eternal just requires a lot of button presses.

Maybe I interpreted you wrong, idk

[copper torrent]

No, I agree with you. I really just mean the lots of button presses

[brave rock]

I really dont understand, why they really choose to go with ray tracing as a minimum requirement. Even if I do completely get the motivations to do so. It's just not reasonable. The 20 series cards frankly are pretty terrible at raytracing, the 50 series is basically unobtainable. So you either had to get a 4000 series card recently, an extremely over priced 3000 series during mining, or an older 3000 series during the 4000 generation

I dont know how the game will perform yet, but I can almost certainly say it would have been a performance marvel like eternal if it had used standard rasterized lighting instead of raytracing and unless you own one of the best 40 series cards you probably wont get incredible perfrormance it otherwise would have had

I have a 6950xt and it's got pretty good rasterization performance, but AMD has always been a lot worse proportionally at raytracing. I feel almost pressured if I want the best experience in this game to get a new 50 series card and the 50 series been a paper launch ontop of the worse generational uplift (since it's on the same nanometer node as the 4000 series)

[remote thunder]

they're using rt for hitreg, that's the reasoning

hitscan already uses rays for hit detection, but there's something about theirs that requires rt cores for some reason

[brave rock]

I have to assume there's a lot of motivation to just save development time and money. I dont know if they timed dark ages to coincide with the 50 series thinking it would encourge people to upgrade and they could utilize the new ray tech. But considering the 50 series is on the same performance node and UDNA amd gpus are probably going to come out next year, mid 2026 feels like a much better launch time.

Nvidia will probably release the 6000 series on a new node when amd releases udna

[remote thunder]

not an engine programmer so i'm not really sure how much of an upgrade using rt for hitreg is over traditional methods

[brave rock]

Raytracing makes reflections off leather and steel armor more easily identifiable and they can make it slightly more accurate than maybe standard registration

[brave rock]

No where near enough to justify the hardware performance hit I promise that.

I thought it was kinda funny when indiana jones required raytracing, because who cares. But this is dark ages, doom is something people actually care about

[placid saffron]

well basically none, especially because you're realistically casting a whopping... 20 rays max if you're using the SSG

[remote thunder]

i guess placing hitboxes is a lot more lax for artists now?

[brave rock]

Standard hit registration has been absolutely fine for super competitive games for decades now I doubt the casual single player game needs it

[remote thunder]

like if there's a pixel on screen that's metal and one that's leather, you'll deal no damage if you hit metal

[placid saffron]

i genuinely think it's just a buzzword soup

[brave rock]

@remote thunder Using raytracing takes a lot less dev time than creating lighting paths with standard rasterization

so they can save money by forcing raytracing

[remote thunder]

makes sense yeah

[plain iron]

The game requires raytracing as it is apart of the actual gameplay, not the graphics

[remote thunder]

i'm kind of a filthy centrist on this

[placid saffron]

so why does it still cost them just as much time as eternal did

[remote thunder]

if i can choose to just use the hitscan component of rt and turn off all the rendering related stuff, i'm fine with that

[brave rock]

So does indiana jones. Can you use standard lighting for graphics and only rays for hit reg? if not it doesnt matter

[placid saffron]

i seriously doubt that "ray tracing on bullets" is anywhere near as intensive as raytracing every light source on screen

or even needed considering the trailer didn't even showcase it lol??/

[remote thunder]

i'd assume there's no real world accurate ricochet physics haha

[brave rock]

Is that possible?

[remote thunder]

in eternal you do have the option to not use rtx but this is presumably on a new engine

so no clue

[brave rock]

Unless there's seperation of RT specifically only for the guns I doubt it

[plain iron]

I'd wager its bcs doom has more gunplay than Indiana Jones does

[brave rock]

Well they both force raytracing. Honestly I somehow doubt any game needs RT for gameplay, we've had perfectly fine games for 30+ years without it

[plain iron]

I assume the bullet raytracing is more on the lines of doing adequate damage based on where it's gonna hit

[brave rock]

If I'm gonna spend over a grand buying a new GPU I want at least 2-2.5x my 6950xt's performance. Tell ID to release the game when the 6000 series releases

[plain iron]

Whenever that's leather or flesh or metal

[brave rock]

I dont see how that cant be done with standard rasterization.

[brave rock]

Also keep in mind there might be some extremely dumb tariffs before the game even releases doubling the price of a gpu

[vestal dagger]

I wonder if they’re using accelerated bvh traversal to skip the need for simplified hitboxes. The “hitbox” in this case would be the exact model geometry

Sounds like it would run extremely fast on a GPU with hardware RT acceleration

[hard thistle]

@brave rock Yes, many countries impose tariffs on goods imported from the USA. So its OK if USA pays tariffs but not other countries? Besides ya know GPU are always getting expensive when new ones release.

[native vine]

Will we have a weapon just like the bfg in doom the dark ages

[inland beacon]

The devs are hyping up “the new unlimited glory kill system”. Bro those aren’t glory kills they just added funny as shit ragdoll physics to all of the demons. I bet the Bethesda higher ups wanted them to hype it up

[crystal venture]

man shut up

its doom yippee hell death rahh

kill kill kill kill

stop geeking

[slender night]

Internet discussion is EVIL you should take everything at FACE VALUE

[spiral cypress]

just ordered Collector Edition of DA cant wait for it to arrive🥳

[remote thunder]

thank god game designers don't listen to people like you

if nobody "geeked", everything would be annual sports games and bad souls clones

[slender night]

DOOM is definitely not a "yippee" franchise

[wheat sigil]

This just demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of the franchise

It is not just "kill kill kill kill"

[regal geyser]

Save humanity from the demon invasion

[slender night]

And survival, which is the base focus of a few of the games

[grave cave]

I just want to feel like a badass and kill shit c:

[waxen glacier]

104 days

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/431265631866716186/846166318155431936/image0.gif

[graceful lion]

keep in mind that trailers are usually slower than actual gameplay so normal people can figure out whats going on

im not saying its gonna be fast, but its probably gonna be faster than the trailer

[waxen glacier]

yea, I remember the eternal trailer being rlly slow when the game is actually much faster

[half umbra]

So much faster to the point where people think it’s too fast, I have faith dark ages will do just fine

[eternal basin]

I agree ngl

I donr like the kicking and stuff

[delicate grotto]

A bit basic and not as cool imo, but more practical and interactive. I think it’ll work with the game loop a lot better than what was showcased.

[remote thunder]

practical > tiktok edit bait cutscene slop

gks are mostly well animated mind you, but if i was in the mood for an interactive movie i'd just play killer7

[waxen glacier]

I love glory kills but I trust Id software with the new system

altho I wouldn't rlly call it glory kills in this game

it's more like a free melee charge

[remote thunder]

yeah and each one takes like half a second which is a godsend

[waxen glacier]

yea I enjoy how short they are

[remote thunder]

no more 90 minute feature films every time you wanna heal

[waxen glacier]

I'll admit while I love glory kills, I had a mod installed a lot of the time when I played it that always had the faster glory kills rune active cuz it felt nicer

especially for the tyrant glory kills

[wheat sigil]

Yea, I'll probably get that too, and something to speed up chainsawing too

[waxen glacier]

yea

[visual totem]

I wish that the collector's edition could be shipped to México 😔

[wooden acorn]

Day 9 of 112

[sonic sluice]

[shut whale]

What do all of u want to see in shield upgrade

[shy gulch]

Captain America type shield bouncing

[shut whale]

Really u want it to ricochet, how about an indestructible shield that can't be broken

[latent fractal]

i want to be able to ride on the shield like a hoverboard for fast exploration

[waxen glacier]

since theres a lot of open areas, maybe the shield could ricochet off of heavy enemies or something like that? altho making it ricochet off of all surfaces could still probably work, but maybe it damages the shield slightly every time it bounces off of something?

indestructible shield? maybeeee....tbh I feel like it would be too overpowered and cause people to rely on the shield a little too much, even tho it's already like one of the main focuses in the gameplay. maybe indestructibility could be like a cheat code floppy disc like in eternal? or maybe an upgrade that makes the shield semi indestructible, like a 1 in 10 chance that it will take damage every time it gets hit?

being able to shieldsurf would also be pretty cool, but I'm not too sure how it would effect the gameplay other than faster exploration...

maybe shieldsurfing can allow u to mow through fodder while exploring

but if you hit like a heavier demon it gets stuck, and maybe if you get damaged you get knocked off of the shield

(excuse my yapping I'm such a nerd I love speculating in lots of detail lmao)

[proud vine]

i want to be able to punch it a couple of times to keep it going back and forth

basically the ultrakill chainsaw if you are familiar with that

[flint oracle]

Does anyone know if GAME in the UK will be stocking the collectors edition?

[proud vine]

probably

[eternal basin]

Fortress of doom in tda?

[grim cloud]

im spoiled, i want more game play, esp without commentary, of places we have seen. Previous 2 levels are show cased. 2016 had foundry/Kadinger, but later showed off much of Resource Ops/Titans Realms/Lazuras labs. I think they showed a bit too much of the game honestly.

Eternal first showed off Super Gores nest and parts of mars core. Later more Mars Core/Exultia/ Cultist base with some Taras Nabad. Once again a little too much.

[arctic pagoda]

Doom

[hard thistle]

The unilluminated era

[mild cave]

Yo is davoth gonna be added into the game?

[hard thistle]

How about that pricks face when he saw dagyatt

[noble basin]

I’m getting the collectors edition!!

[lyric leaf]

sick

[graceful lion]

no, i dont think so

[eternal basin]

I hope the fortress will look the same then

Yeah or just used for cutscenes

That would be really bad

[flat pulsar]

He’s stuck without a body at the time

[hard thistle]

Davoth thirst trap scenes

[sly atlas]

to anyone who play tested or seen early gameplay footage how close is it to the other games without spoilers

obviously you can include the mech gameplay as i already saw it

just trying to figure out if its worth pre orders

[wheat cliff]

pre orders are usually just there for collectors and stuff

I personally am just going to play via gamepass

the decision is yours though

I'd say it's worth it to wait imo

[lime spoke]

doom dark ages memes will be awesom

[neon steppe]

I already got the stadart edition
My fiancé is not gonna be happy

[crystal venture]

turn your mentions on and stop ducking

[wheat sigil]

Crazy, you didn't bother responding to me, who's the one 🦆ing?

[crystal venture]

not responding meant i agreed with your views

its just a joke

take it slow brother

[hard thistle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1334054884533866529/1335015605450969141/weirdfish.gif?ex=679ea1ab&is=679d502b&hm=9bbeaf0743923baf1282484e303d7e56f52bd737219c9263ff226709b8e6517e&

[visual totem]

I thought it said "quacking" there until I read the previous message

[raw drum]

guys the X box fanbase is getting wild, they want the dark ages to be an X box exclusive and im a PS5 player
They might ruin the experience for me

[plain iron]

Nawh preorders are already being bought for ps5 and pc, it won't be a xbox exclusive.

[raw drum]

oh thank god

i aint preordering it tho, im probs gonna buy it in a discount when it comes out

[plain iron]

Yeah understandable

[raw drum]

and hopefully i dont get the urge to watch the walkthroughs on youtube because i dont want it to be spoiled

[plain iron]

I have disposable income so I preordered the collectors edition

I get to pick it up on may 13

I will be turning my phone and laptop off

[raw drum]

dude to be honest i never thought doom eternal and 2016 could have been topped

[plain iron]

Too bad if I have a medical event

[raw drum]

the dark ages just gonna blow them out of the water

[plain iron]

It feels like Christmas when ur a kid, yknow?

[raw drum]

its not out yet but the gameplay looks so good, ive already decided my playstyle

[plain iron]

Wanting to sleep away the days so you can get there faster

[raw drum]

except this time, the person giving the gifts, santa, is id software, AND THEY ACTUALLY EXIST

[plain iron]

LITERALLY

Like I'm gonna make a special brush for the slayer's faux fur coat on the statue

I'm so excited

[raw drum]

i wanna pre order it so bad rn

[plain iron]

It's not too expensive

[raw drum]

but to be honest im still a minor and i still have to save up money

[plain iron]

Standard edition is less than the standard edition for space marine 2

[raw drum]

89 bucks is overprice in my standards, i usually buy in like the 30-50s range

[plain iron]

Same but I justified it by the fact I'll probably have over 300+ hours in it

I justify buying games by "one hour - one dollar"

Like most cod campaigns are like 30 hours at most

[raw drum]

i tried doom eternal in like 2022, i got the disk from the library and i played hell on earth and then i had to return it the next day
then i bought the game in 2023 and i swear to god the experience was so great even on ps5

i mean i did try 2016 before and tbh its always classified as overrated but by how much people call it overrated id say its underrated

[plain iron]

It's so

AUTHFHTHTG yknow

[raw drum]

the first time i tried doom was this one time my dad introduced me to it when i was like 7-8

[plain iron]

I love 2016

[raw drum]

yeah i still come back to it a lot of times

[plain iron]

I can't remember when I first played any dooms

Ik I've played it when I was younger

Bcs my brother was really into it

[raw drum]

and then this one time i ran doom 64 on a DOS browser in school trying to annoy the teacher with ambience sounds

[plain iron]

Man

[raw drum]

then anyways i planned to buy doom eternal in 2021 and then a lot of people told me to try 2016 first, everyone told me eternal was better but i still tried 2016 first because it was like 4.99$CAD at that time

[plain iron]

Also chat so we use TDA slayer for the body pillow or do we use classic slayer

[raw drum]

anyways i beat it, i didnt pay much attention to the story so i played it again this time watching the holographic stuff and it did have a good story

[plain iron]

Opinions on Olivia Pierce

I fucking love her

Very pretty and her voice is

[raw drum]

i mean it has everything you want to be in the villain but it could've been better yknow

[plain iron]

It's funny bcs scoliosis runs in my family so I can wind up like her one day

[raw drum]

and anyways after trying eternal and buying it on my PS5 i swear to god it was not just a perfect game it was CELESTIAL

like to be honest everyone complained it was too hard on controller but i can make it through a master level on ultra violence

[plain iron]

Yeah idk why people say its hard on controller

[raw drum]

idk maybe the situation of quickswitching is easier on pc?

[plain iron]

I exclusively play on controller

[raw drum]

like bro just turn down the weaponwheel cooldown if it bothers you that much

[plain iron]

I hate the mars core master level

[raw drum]

same

[plain iron]

Fuck you several archviles

[raw drum]

i could run doom 2016 on my pc and then i had to run eternal on my PS5 because my PC just wasnt good enough

yeah....... before i migrated to canada i had a PS4 back in india

[plain iron]

I have a ps5 slim

She's nifty

[raw drum]

archviles pretty easy imo

people just say just save crucible ammo

[plain iron]

Im tryna remember if I had crucible ammo

[raw drum]

but tbh all i do is just save 2 bloodpunches to take care of the shield and start quickswapping ballista/supershotgun with some switches to rocket launcher for the 3shots

if any mistake happens just use micro missles to destroy the shield, its not as good as the blood punch but yk better than using COMBAT SHOTGUN

[plain iron]

Bcs there's also several cybermancubi, which are easy but like... they're annoying

[raw drum]

the first playthrough of doom eternal had me so frustrated with the archviles when i had no crucible ammo i once shot a BFG on its shield

[plain iron]

I think I remember what happened now

I think a cybermancubus got in the way of the crucible

Bcs they're all buffed

[raw drum]

True pain
Girls think titanic made them cry
Accidentally hitting a crucible on another enemy instead of an archvile made boys cry

[plain iron]

But it's been a while since I played eternal (it pissed me off when it resetted my trophy progress)

[raw drum]

i got like every trophy on eternal i just havent played extra life

[plain iron]

I've 100% both dlcs and horde mode, all of the campaign too, just not battle mode bcs crippling anxiety

[raw drum]

and anyways lets get back to this channels topic

what do you like abt the dark ages

tbh i liked the medevial theme

people complain its not fitting for doom but i have no problem with it

[plain iron]

I really like the graphics and the possible story

Like.... ARGRGRG GIVE ME MORE MAYKR LORE RAHH

It looks like we're getting more maykr types too

[raw drum]

yeah and it is also gonna make the non-lore-rich eternal players understand what eternals story was telling them

[plain iron]

Given the chonkyr's whole appearance

[raw drum]

so anyways after i buy it im gonna replay the whole franchise, Doom the Dark ages->Doom 2016(This time paying attention to the holographic stuff)->Doom eternal

[woven jolt]

tbh, TDA is more doom than Eternal

[plain iron]

Call me matpat bcs I'm here for the LORRRRRE

[raw drum]

SO AM I

[plain iron]

As my name suggests I adore maykrs so more maykr lore would be hella appreciated

[raw drum]

and i hope the game starts with Seraphim giving us the divinity powers

[plain iron]

I just hope we see him tbh

SAMUR. SAMUR PLEASE

I mean

We might already have seen him

[raw drum]

dude i wanna see the game beginning with us being in sentinel armor, then the dreadnoughtus destroying the city through the windows as we follow samur into the chambers of the divinity machine

[grave cave]

That's the mf dogfish in webfishing

[raw drum]

if it doesnt happen and we just begin in an elevator im still happy

and besides doomguy still is the most badarse character in videogaming

[grave cave]

It's gonna be so epic

[plain iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278629590797123602/1332697485512151061/Screenshot_20250126_000333_Samsung_Internet.jpg?ex=679e1bc0&is=679cca40&hm=0ee47a8f99cb90ea0c6e5caf75174b3d0f9160a1a0b5a63c9e8088ed3126a615&

The guy down the bottom has several traits that are very similar to Samur/the seraphim

The broken ring is interesting too

The headshape is what's really convincing me

[raw drum]

probs not samur

[plain iron]

I'm huffing copium

[raw drum]

besides i have a question, in tagp1 how did you feel during the samur fight

[plain iron]

It made me sad

Samur went insane tee hee

Also chat I can't feel my lower legs

Help

[raw drum]

Demonic corruption can corrupt anything, samur was just there for too long

other than yk THE DOOMGUY

[plain iron]

Oop, that's not what happened there. It was transfiguration, which is actually normal for maykrs. It's their deathstate. Normally they turn fleshy to rejoin the singularity/the father but bcs the father is no longer where he's supposed to be, it causes them to kinda just mutate further :3

I also assume their deathstate is where they produce offspring

[raw drum]

i mean to be honest i do like the doom lore but theres a lot of things i cant arrange properly in the timeline and stuff, and also i dont know much abt the makyrs because im more focused in doomguys backsory etc

[plain iron]

Yeah maykrs aren't everyone's thing

I just really like the idea of divine machinery

[raw drum]

i mean the only thing i know abt the makyrs are one of davoths first creations outside of jekkad to search for a cure for immortality

[plain iron]

And the weird insect inspo the creators took for divine things in doom

[raw drum]

im suprised how doom eternal ddnt have a divinity machine theemd skin

luckily dark ages ccovering that up

[plain iron]

That's where ur wrong :3 they have the maykr skin

[raw drum]

oh

i remember i bought the digital deluxe edition to play the DLC becuase a lot of people told me you kill the embodiment of evil and after that i didnt even check what skins i got, other than the demonic slayer like thats fire, and it even BURNS ON FIRE

[plain iron]

Understandable

[raw drum]

and im sure i didnt care abt the skins too

[plain iron]

But I wish they made the TDA divinity skin have more white

[raw drum]

the only one i liked were the classic ones and the main one

[plain iron]

Maykrs are predominantly white 😭

[empty furnace]

hot take: tda glory kill system is better than eternals

[raw drum]

also does anyone understand how terribly optimized TDA is on pc?

[plain iron]

There's too much black in the skin, maykrs rarely have black

Me when

[raw drum]

of course, Eternal had badarse cinematic finishers while in TDA it just turns on ragdolls

[plain iron]

Me when the when

[raw drum]

Still really good

[plain iron]

Finally the rejuvenation of stupid ragdolls that break the game

Can't wait for tf2 ass memes w the ragdolls

[raw drum]

ragdolls gonna be fun, especially with maces and spiky hammers

[burnt panther]

It would be funny if we got something like what happens in punch out

[plain iron]

I'm gonna kick a soldier and he's just gonna

https://tenor.com/view/onward-onward-vr-vr-ragdoll-ragdoll-physics-gif-7987808562496473819

[raw drum]

nah ill just mace them in the balls

that will be so fun than just seeing the same cinematic finishers for the 999th time

[plain iron]

It's gonna be a serious game and it's gonna make me laugh at the dumbass ragdolls

[empty furnace]

i heard that its gonna have a somewhat interactive story

this will be interesting

[plain iron]

Oh ew I just realised I'm gonna have to draw doomguy feet ew

[empty furnace]

no rocket launcher yet tho

[plain iron]

Might just

Make that undersuit we kinda saw in tda

Give him socks

[empty furnace]

what if its a shoulder attachment

[plain iron]

I am not drawing doomguy feet today

[empty furnace]

chat which is more badass shoulder rocket launcher or handheld

[raw drum]

2016 had a good story and eternal did only if you read the lore, But TDA might keep the story as a part of the game like wolfenstein TNO except doomguy doesnt speak

[raw drum]

handheld

[plain iron]

nvm I'm still gonna have to draw davoth feet

Can't hide those

[raw drum]

just cover it with demon blood

[empty furnace]

theres a sword in tda right?

[plain iron]

I hope not I want spears

[empty furnace]

aside from mace and flail

[raw drum]

crucible might be there bcuz of the lore

[plain iron]

It's for a body pillow I can't

[empty furnace]

but most importantly
WE GETTING A DUAL PLASMA RIFLE

[plain iron]

YEAAHH

[raw drum]

YEAHHHHHHHH

[plain iron]

I wanna see the ballista again

Lorewise it should be there

[raw drum]

the skullcrusher is basically the unmakyr if you think abt it

[burnt panther]

Just made into the kit better I hope

[plain iron]

Yeah I wonder how we get ammo

Do we just

Run around yoinking skulls

[empty furnace]

yes

[burnt panther]

Bro imagine you just put in like someone’s head

[raw drum]

i hope they bring back the meathook even though they have replaced it with the shield, Lets say the super shotgun was a relic from doomguys past and he attached the meathook to it in the dark ages, In 2016 the super shotgun was replicated and not the actual gun and in eternal we get the actual super shotgun from the dark ages

[plain iron]

Wait I think we do

[burnt panther]

They won’t probably

[plain iron]

I think we saw said ammo in the trailer 😭

[empty furnace]

the meathook wont fit into tda

[empty furnace]

bonk give boolet

[plain iron]

It could

[burnt panther]

We saw a charge mechanic right?

[raw drum]

chains are a bit medevial-styled too

[plain iron]

Tbh meathooks are rather tame for medieval weapons

[raw drum]

oh that shield dash yeah

[plain iron]

I've seen some interesting whips

[raw drum]

guys what do you think the knife gun resembles from classic doom

[burnt panther]

I imagine it would be like a scorpion pull if it was added

[plain iron]

Hehe gimmie ur spine

[empty furnace]

not for gameplay tho
2016 was about “shoot it until it dies”
eternal was all about shooting while flying at mach fuck
tda is literally “stand and fight slayer”

[raw drum]

yeah
2016:- Run and gun
Eternal:- Jump and shoot
TDA:- Stand..... And FIGHT

[lyric leaf]

aura

[empty furnace]

stand and fight slayer, honor your true god - davoth

[raw drum]

Doomslayer:- No.

[empty furnace]

tda might be the modern doom 64 because ive seen a lot of varying opinions

[lyric leaf]

eternal was the doom 2 of modern doom

[raw drum]

Nah doom 3 was like the evolved doom 64

[lyric leaf]

blud what are you typing

[raw drum]

and it is the 2nd game

except this time supershotgunspamming wont work

even on IM TOO YOUNG TO DIE

[lyric leaf]

yeah, with a hell on earth theme and increased monster variety compared to the previous game

[raw drum]

and icon of sin as teh final boss

[empty furnace]

hopefully i don’t need to sign in to a bethesda account to play a singleplayer game
for eternal it was somewhat understandable because it had a form of multiplayer (even if its forgettable)
but theres no reason to add a sign in for tda

[lyric leaf]

skins too

[empty furnace]

you needed to sign in for skins?

actually that makes sense..

[raw drum]

they probs wont because im pretty sure TDA will remove multiplayer, probs because like no one wants the multiplayer anymore

[lyric leaf]

yeah, some of them were unlocked on the slayers club

[empty furnace]

true..

[empty furnace]

god of war ragnarok added the sign in bs even though it has no multiplayer whatsoever, so its still a possibility

[lyric leaf]

you'll probably have to sign in in TDA

[empty furnace]

they didn’t say anything about skins tho

[raw drum]

there was a sign in option??????? i dont remember being one

or maybe because i played on PS5

[empty furnace]

for pc players (me included)

it didn’t take long but it was still total BS

[hybrid sparrow]

Skins for TDA? The pre order and premium editions both give skins

[empty furnace]

theres no sword
what i thought was the sword turned out to be the mace

[grim cloud]

i wonder if we get hell commando's. Seen three types of hell soldier variants so far, normal, shielded and archer

[slender onyx]

they should bring the chaingunners back

[raw drum]

lorewise we might see the crucible

[empty furnace]

imagine a titan sized cyberdemon

[lime spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-gif-25612285

[dapper panther]

There will VERY PROBABLY be one. At least, lore-wise.

[green shale]

we are probably going to get the crucible hammer instead i think,

but ngl, 80 $CA thats so much 😭 compared to the 2 others games

[arctic pagoda]

It be doomin

[hard thistle]

Jesus fuckin christ you’re the bay harbor slayer

[hard thistle]

I pre ordered the $100 premium edition 😅

[fresh lintel]

same i just preordered premium edition! getting it two days early is so worth it

[waxen glacier]

103 days

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/431265631866716186/846166318155431936/image0.gif

[grim cloud]

but i want to put links here vega you little four lettered word

[woven jolt]

so I guess doomguy will be at his peak for this game. Just watched Hugo's and Marty's interview

[grave cave]

bangers and mash

doom will help me stop my coffee addiction

[hard thistle]

All the betas of hell outmogged before one sigma

[quartz oar]

I a gun autist decided to analyze the super shotgun in doom the dark ages

And it gave me a brain aneurysm

1 fact i notced the model for the gun has no real way for the rounds to feed the ammo from the assumed internal magazine under the barrel

Although thats in the first trailer i haven't looked at the equip animation in the id showcase

[plain iron]

Well, most doom games we don't reload, but it is strange that the super shotgun doesn't have a reload, bcs that's typically the one we reload

[slender night]

Not the first time

DOOM 64 also had a funny SSG

[grave cave]

True

[proud vine]

Not yet because no divinity machine but close

Though it was before that

My bad then

Fair point

[plain iron]

Which is why I don't believe in the maykrs imprisoning him

Why would they? Do they wish for more friction between the sentinels and them?

For you maybe, I get this shit may 13th

Hopefully

Definitely

He has to go I hate him

No that is definitely a male leaning maykr

The eyes are what gives it away for me

Feminine maykrs have different eyeshapes

Or rather, he aligns more w the male leaning maykrs than the female ones

That's where ur wrong :3 we've had a few examples of a male maykr (eternal's art book) and it is definitely male, along w several seraphim designs as well

Most people take it as vaguely canon, it's just moreso the design itself rather than them being actual maykrs

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278629590797123602/1332606316518309919/emerson-tung-de-char-samur-a-1.jpg?ex=679f1858&is=679dc6d8&hm=4b718902bf4f50d063949d8c6ebfa05942e2304244ef86ae41bb369e9618fa3c&

The last two are the examples here

More masculine

Though I would love to see the first one somewhere

The last one looks the most like the khan maykr

It seems that drones have humanoid faces, which can change when their form changes (i like to think they're like bugs)

Little cretins removing their face plates

EHEHEH

THATS IT THATS WHAT I NEED TO DRAW

YES

YES THATS

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278629590797123602/1332605940326731816/emerson-tung-de-env-urdak2a.jpg?ex=679f17fe&is=679dc67e&hm=afdeaee83d5184a2bd9b025ed5790bd6682c943bd653f32ec9abe43a3d4b540c&

LIKE

Hhhhmmm

[arctic pagoda]

Dewm

[gilded lake]

sad that wasn't samur's design tbh

[shut whale]

Do u think all the demons will have like 6 or 7 attacks. For example the beast rider all he does is shoot arrows and the beast doesn't do anything but stay still

[arctic pagoda]

That we know of

They'll probably be some medieval themed version of the pinky

[grim cloud]

i want pinky swarms. that is classic shit right there

unarmored pinkies that can turn invinsible if needed

Also it is now February. We are a month closer to May

Feb/March/April then it is DOOM MOnth!

[hushed blade]

Will the campaign dlc alone be avaible for purchase, without having to buy the premium edition?

[winter idol]

after launch it should

its not going to be premium exclusive

[wooden acorn]

Day 10 of 112

[shut whale]

I really hope the beast actually runs and uses it claws and horns to attack

[native cliff]

the game looked slower than I wouldve liked in the developer direct but Im hoping it plays faster once its out

[shut whale]

U can change the setting, speed, and difficulty, did u watch the direct development

[native cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-doomguy-doom-slayer-doom-guy-shotgun-gif-27413588

[arctic pagoda]

The Drax ages