the-dark-ages

[honest copper]

12 inches of slayer sounds incredible but where would I put it

I noticed the dark ages has a lot of similarities with god of war

[spare panther]

ive got a perfect spot next to my monitor

[plain iron]

Because it's a preorder, they will be making as many as the preorders say, along w the left over stock

[spare panther]

awesome

so as long as i order before may 13th im good?

[honest copper]

yes

[spare panther]

great, thanks

[honest copper]

how are we going to be killing titans without the crucible

[spare panther]

power of the atlan fist

and a gun

[honest copper]

see the whole "you need your crucible to kill a titan" was all a lie

what was the point in getting the crucible to kill the icon of sin for

[spare panther]

i mean i think hes different he can actually turn into a black hole iirc

might be wrong its been a while since ive delved into doom lore

[honest copper]

what about the titan in taras nebad

[spare panther]

i dunno maybe they didnt have atlans

maybe itll be explained somewhere

[charred hatch]

Icon of sin is different because it's just Romero's head

[grim cloud]

retconned prob lol

[hard thistle]

Crucibles are just a way to immobilize titans

You can still kill them with normal weapons although it will take longer

To take them down

[spare panther]

oh that makes sense

[honest copper]

Would be cool to use the shield to perform glory kills along with the new mace and stuff

[hard thistle]

“Only a Slayer’s Crucible blade can stop a Titan.”

You know, it’d be dope if we got to fight in Taras and Exultia before the cities fell. Especially if we see Samur lead Doomguy to the Divinity Machine, and now with divine power (or unholy considering whose power is infused into the machine), he will lead the Sentinel army against the demonic horde!

[honest copper]

would be cool to see.. demon destruction. Nuff said

[grave cave]

Thank fuck,,, I thought i was not going to make it

[shut whale]

I wonder how many demon warriors will be in dark ages

[hard thistle]

What are demon warriors

i just realized we have the shield in eternal already

the chaingun one! it can also be "thrown"

[woven jolt]

they said the story starts when the slayer is imprisoned,
also from the trailer, we see a large titan emerging from ground, it might be the one in Taras

[hard thistle]

The dark ages takes place years after that

[woven jolt]

how do you know

Hugo said the game leads up to the 2016 slayer testaments,
so I'd assume anything before then could be in the story

[hard thistle]

Anything before within a set time

That time being years after the events of argent dnur

Taras nabad*

[grave cave]

Your right lmao

[delicate stirrup]

I hope the Ballista comes back.

[grave cave]

Sadly I think the railgun taken that place

BUT who knows I hope so to!

[hard thistle]

it would fit in thsi game

[ivory wind]

Is it a hottake for me to say that besides the Super Shotgun and Plasma Gun, I hope none of the previous weapons come back for The Dark Ages?

[hard thistle]

shotguns returning

i think unmaykr and ballista could return as well

and of course the crucible

other than that yeah they wouldnt fit medieval

rocket launcher is returning too i saw

Every gun from the classics should be a staple

[hard thistle]

even the pistol

That can be an exception

no

we need the pistol

[ivory wind]

Yeah I think those are mostly a given, cause Sentinels used the Ballista. It'd be cool to see the hell Unmaker instead of the Unmaykr

[hard thistle]

I mean in tda, they could add a revolver of some sorts that hits harder than the 2016 pistol

[hard thistle]

yes

[ivory wind]

Yeah I was thinking that too, a different one handed gun

[hard thistle]

a revolver would be epic and would work better imo than the normal pistol

[ivory wind]

You think the crucible will be different than Eternal's too?

[hard thistle]

Crucible is stuck in the titan

Unless the slayer makes another one

crucible idk if its even returning

[hard thistle]

wait isnt that whats going to happen during tda?

[ivory wind]

Yeah it's more of a "What if" since we don't know for sure

[hard thistle]

i feel like the crucible has to look like the one from eternal

[ivory wind]

I was thinking they flesh out some of the concept art designs. Maybe the one where the blade comes out of the sides, or that seratted axe looking one

[hard thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1332168030074962020/1333658767186985030/IMG_0315.png?ex=6799b204&is=67986084&hm=27d4aec43b47b7652d3d9c42f948f570c361f5f58315e6feb19df1019e797bba&

Looks too big to be a pistol no?

A handgun

[eager marlin]

I'm just excited to see how they're gonna incorporate the new melee options into the combat

[grave cave]

A hand cannon :0 ngl that might be my favourite weapon design

[charred hatch]

That thing is weird as hell lol

[hard thistle]

Im asking whether it could be a pistol or not due to its large size

I wonder what that gun is

The chaingun may have been replaced by the skullgun

If so i wonder what the replacement for the heavy cannon will be

Cause i dont see them bringing the heavy cannon back

[runic elk]

I'm more curious about the BFG tbh, will it even be called a BFG9000 or will it be something else entirely

[hard thistle]

Probably a maykr or sentinel weapon equivalent to that

[grave cave]

Would doomguy introduce the BFG to the world? Because he had it in the older dooms in his world?? Might be stretching it

[obsidian shard]

Classic BFG

[grave cave]

yes!! so if that what i said is true then we are rocking the classic bfg! thats what im thinking

[charred hatch]

BFG9001

[arctic pagoda]

The bfg 8999

It took em nearly 2 centuries or more to make a mark 9000

[grave cave]

might just the the BFG, but im hyped what its gonna look like

[arctic pagoda]

It's just a catapult that throws demon cores

[grave cave]

that actually sounds fuckin sick

[earnest swift]

Looks like a rifle.

[wooden acorn]

Almost forgot
Day 5 of 112

[hazy mist]

Idk that one of the melee weapons they showed off

[hazy mist]

Medieval bfg where it throws comically large cannonballs

[young matrix]

Something like the hive hand from half life or Samus arm canon?

[young matrix]

We serious sam up in here

[hard thistle]

the gun that all the sentinel warriors use in the developer direct looks a lot like the lightning gun from doom 2016

[unkempt thicket]

Curious on how ammo will work on Skullcrusher since it gathers bones from demons. So just kill demons for ammo?

[grave cave]

In the trailer it shows the skull ammos around the place

[hazy mist]

Also I might be crazy but is enemy density the highest it’s been in the trilogy in TDA?

[unkempt thicket]

Ooh

[grave cave]

its a dark orange bright brown colour with skulls stack on top of each other

its pre awesome

[versed haven]

definitely looks like it, don't recall ever seeing density TDA levels of big in 2016 or Eternal

[grave cave]

i heard they gonna make eternal look small

more demons more tearing!!

[hazy mist]

In level size maybe

[versed haven]

Levels look massive as hell and im so here for it

design variations and aesthetics so far look really unique

[hazy mist]

I’m wondering how the speedrun will go

[grave cave]

i know i said this when eternal came out but
i wander how they are going to top this if they can

[hazy mist]

Honestly what other style can they go for

[grave cave]

like f.e.a.r next maybe

bring back the horror but still have that modern doom

[timber cloak]

So does anyone know if they'll be restocking the Collectors edition at all? Over here in AUS the PC Collector's bundle sold out within 6 hours, I wasn't able to get my hands on one

[grave cave]

in AUS to and i think they will restock

[timber cloak]

I hope so, I've been saving up money for little under a year now to buy the collector's bundle

[grave cave]

looking at JB hi-fi or EB

[timber cloak]

The PC Collector's bundle has been delisted on EB

[versed haven]

i would hope they would so you lads can get your hands on them, managed to grab one from EB at like 6am

but 90% chance its one and done

[grave cave]

would jb have it then? that sucks

[timber cloak]

JB Doesn't have it either

Nor does Gamesmen

[versed haven]

all stores would have been given a set amount nationwide most likely

[timber cloak]

Surely though with how quickly it sold out they'd want to stock more

At this point I wish it was just a made-to-order type deal

[grave cave]

im pre sure they will, otherwise i missed out to 😦

[timber cloak]

If push comes to shove I might cave and just buy it for a different platform

[grave cave]

yea

[thin zinc]

that is an amazing statue, i just dont want to pay 100 extra bucks for it

but it is amazing

i need to finish some back catalogue games before doom comes out. i got indiana jones and even spiderman 2 😄

i want to replay doom 2016 too before it's out. i replayed eternal last year on steam. i had only played it on xbox before

[round lichen]

REALY

Doom the dark ages is not translated to Spain Spanish

[thin zinc]

that seems weird if true.

[versed haven]

interface and subtitles are translated, but Steam does say that audio isn't supported for Spanish

bit odd

especially since countries nearby like France have full support for their languages

[red steeple]

I have purchased 12 inches of Slayer

[plain iron]

I mean, the other ones haven't sold out yet, so you should be right

[earnest swift]

No

Flail and electric fists are 2 of the 3; don’t remember the last one.

[boreal geyser]

Mace

[hard thistle]

Or even a DOOM spiked mace!

Wait a minute

If u cant jump in this game then how could that possibly work

What if you had to aim at a particular spot to get those glory kill animations

[boreal geyser]

you can jump

[hard thistle]

I heard nobody mention

Is it confirmed

I dont think the gameplay showed it either

[lyric leaf]

I doubt they would remove jumping

[hard thistle]

Ok he does

The slayer looks like he jumps off right before the ledge ends

Now this somewhat confirms that one hell knight gk is an aerial gk

If so

I wonder if other melee weapons will have their own dedicated animations

[boreal geyser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2AfrVjHy7M you can see it in the first 5 seconds.

[plain iron]

Big ass mace

Can't wait for it

[tropic raft]

You know what, the music is great! I was actually feeling it!

[slender sky]

Whoever played in that video DOESN'T Know how to play doom one bit

[turbid hamlet]

game journalist is back at it again lmao

I bet doom gamers will eventually find out a way to move fast

[tropic mountain]

shittiest gameplay of doom seen

If I was given the chance to play the beta 😔😔

[boreal geyser]

Yeah. We would play it with more passion and maybe find more bugs and glitches, but they use them because they play "slow" and focus more on enviroments, not on movement. Imagen a gameplay reveal trailer, where a really good doom player would showcase the game. It would be to fast to see graphic upgrades or even details :D

[graceful lion]

doom trailers are usually slower than gameplay

[grave cave]

Yea so we can look around see what's going on lmao

[graceful lion]

exactly

[north drum]

have you seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg41YbkhBcs

[plucky plinth]

I’m looking in the comments of several videos for this game and a ton of people are complaining at the “lack of glory kills”

[winter idol]

they just lack understanding of basic game design

having 100 enemies on screen at a time means you cant glory kill them all

that would feel horrid

[strong grotto]

We will need a mod that plays the vine boom SFX each time slayer raises an eyebrow in the ui

[plucky plinth]

And it already feels horrid in 2016 and especially Eternal!

Also, another complaint I keep seeing is that the new system is a downgrade because it’s “the same 4 animations” when the other 2 NuDoom games were pretty much the exact same lol

[winter idol]

Its going to be alot more than that i think

Faster glory kills feel better, thats why everyone that played 2016 and eternal took the faster glory kills rune

[plucky plinth]

I’ve seen very few people actually use it tbh

[winter idol]

Really? Weird ive seen alot use it

Granted that was years ago

[plucky plinth]

Like basically the only people I’ve seen use it are the newest players

[boreal geyser]

We saw 11 Minutes from the game. Thats nothing, There will be a lot more animations

[winter idol]

I always use it, it just feels better

People say games will be bad when they see an animated trailer so im not surprised people are being glue eaters

[plucky plinth]

Even if it was just those few animations I overall prefer it. It still feels punchy enough while not feeling like a burden as much

[winter idol]

actually being able to 1 shot fodder again and even soldiers is going to feel great

[boreal geyser]

Yeah, im not a fan of the glory-system at all. It was too much in Eternal. I like the new smoother idea. Maybe the will bring back an simular system within the DLC(s)

[winter idol]

i hated the chainsaw in eternal not speeding up with the faster glory kill rune

they seem dead set on making the final form of push forward combat where you actually constantly push forward now

[clever mural]

CHAT I JUST REALISED SOMETHING
the health UI in tDA looks alot like the classic UI from the original games
by that i mean THE SLAYER'S FACE IN THE MIDDLE between the HP and defense counters
that is very cool

[boreal geyser]

Yeah, they mention that in the Xbox Showcase very short. Im not sure, but that is indeed very nice :D

[graceful lion]

press e simulator

[boreal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/bullish-bullish-af-comment-and-share-gif-comment-smash-gif-crypto-gif-2582303873393706139

[green hamlet]

Would any one know if they recommend getting doom the dark ages for Xbox series x or ps5? And with the collectors edition will you still be able to get it after launch day May 15th?

[boreal geyser]

1. I asked in Doom Reddit, and all of them says get if for PC (My specs are way better then PS5)
2. Maybe, if it is not sold out, then yes.

[graceful lion]

TDA will definitely work on ps5/xbox x

they made it with console in mind and stuff, since these consoles are kinda the baseline for most people

[radiant quiver]

If all you have is one of the consoles, Doom TDA will be a perfectly valid way to play it given iD’s immaculate track record of console optimization.

[boreal geyser]

I hope they will update the steam page soon. Need to know if dualsense will work on pc aswell😩

[grave cave]

i hope we can keep track how many demons we killed,, probably not but i like to see how many

[graceful lion]

there might be mods to do that i guess

[vagrant path]

Y'know what'd be awesome for this game, now that there's more demons able to be on-screen at once?

a horde mode.

imagine wave based horde mode dude

[boreal geyser]

Maybe they will do more modes with DLCs😄

[hardy solar]

Hi guys, do you have any idea what quality level to expect from the Collector's Bundle kaycard replica and 12" Slayer statue?
What's the overall product quality from Bethesda Gear International, compared to other producers like Figma, Hot Toys or Prime 1 Studio?

[bold gale]

so how much is this game gonna be I forgot

[boreal geyser]

Its a metal replica. I think it will be good. The figure looks insane

[hardy solar]

Is it hand-painted?

[boreal geyser]

Stalker 2 UE is clean an very detailed. I use the backpack irl. Makes a good job😄

[hardy solar]

You mean only the keycard is a metal replica? Or the figure too is made of metal?

[boreal geyser]

No. only the keycard😄 The figure will be pvc and maybe resin

[placid saffron]

Check steam, depends on the region

[bold gale]

89 DOLLARS

WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL

[placid saffron]

Welcome to modern AAA gaming

[leaden wing]

70 dollars for the base version for me

[bold gale]

Well I hate modern AAA gaming

[placid saffron]

Europe moment

[leaden wing]

i’m in the us

[placid saffron]

Probably best to wait a year or 2 and get deluxe edition and all the patches for like ~30

[slender night]

Modern AAA gaming once required 60 dollars for 4 30 year old games 😌

[bold gale]

I’m just gonna get it when I can

[placid saffron]

Here it's more

[hardy solar]

Oh okay, makes sense. I guess a 12" metal figure would be ten times the price 😅

[placid saffron]

I laid it confusingly

[boreal geyser]

Dont forget the weight🤣

[hardy solar]

Not heavier than an old TV or monitor though. I've already seen pretty big metal statues in stores, but they're usually not painted like this one

The molds for metal parts are very pricy, so you need to sell a lot of it to make profit

[boreal geyser]

Yeah, but not in editions like this😄

[eternal basin]

Will be there slayer skins and also for some demons in tda

Like the ones we had in eternal

[boreal geyser]

for slayer, mech and dragon

[eternal basin]

Alr thats good but wont the dragon and mech be a one time thing in a level

[boreal geyser]

No and yes. Specific for couple of level(s) but not one time thing. Will be a bigger part.

[eternal basin]

Thats great news

[hardy solar]

Some metal statues or trophies are very limited though, like the Games Workshop Golden Demon

[boreal geyser]

And not scripted. You can roam with both in air and ground.

[pearl prism]

To be honest, the glory kills are fully merged with melee now, but they're still in the game they just got merged with the gameplay loop so they don't take you out of the game for a full second and a half before resuming

[plucky plinth]

Yeah, like they’re still there

But they don’t fucking stop you from playing to watch the same exact cutscenes every 30 seconds

God, sometimes I’d rather play A Town With No Name

[pearl prism]

i will miss the overkill factor but not cutting off gameplay for 2 seconds and forcing you to stand still

DE Having a rune that speeds up glory kills tells you all you need to know

[inland beacon]

My worry is that they won’t look as brutal

The scripted glory kills were all complex while dark ages kills just look like a slightly gorier version of the already existing destructible demons system

[boreal geyser]

I think its integraded in the normal kill flow. Not cinematic-like like eternal, but on a nearly same brutal level😄

[graceful tulip]

I wish they have the physical art book for the collectors edition instead of digital

[empty furnace]

will i need an rtx card to play tda?

[boreal geyser]

No. You need an RT Card. Not Nvidia only. AMD aswell😄

[sullen wadi]

Yo is doom the dark ages releasing on gamepass?

[delicate grotto]

Yep

[sullen wadi]

Nice

[delicate grotto]

I agree. I think it’s better for the game’s flow to go this direction but I will miss the brutality of those animations. Curious how it’ll work on larger demons though.

[glass vapor]

wheres mf doom

[delicate grotto]

I can’t imagine a couple smacks with the flail will take down some of those bigger guys lol

[boreal geyser]

Nah, That will not be enough. Only to finish them💀

[hard thistle]

wolfenstinexdoomxmasterchief will be the fixer of our timeline

[slender night]

We have BJ and Doomguy in only one game together, surprisingly

[robust carbon]

why is people calling the new game ''woke''?

[slender night]

Difficulty sliders

[robust carbon]

isnt that in every game?

[slender night]

No, new thing

[robust carbon]

huh

[slender night]

Accessibility options are woke apparently

[robust carbon]

i dont think people realize ur supposed to have fun while playing games

but people have their own opinion i guess

[slender night]

The word woke is more of a buzzword at this point

[winter idol]

woke is a dogwhistle for people with low intelligence

[graceful lion]

difficulty sliders arent really an accessibility thing imo

[slender night]

If you suck at the game really horribly then making it easier makes it more accessible

[graceful lion]

accessibility is things like colorblind mode,

[graceful lion]

well in that sense then yes its accessibility

but just becuase you are disabled in some way doesnt mean you have to turn the difficulty way down

that just doesnt seem right

[slender night]

Some people might not be able to keep up with the game's speed because of their disability, slowing it down is still accessibility

[slender night]

Nobody said they HAVE to

[graceful lion]

yes, in that sense, it is accessibility

[graceful lion]

fair point

[south pilot]

would the dark ages work on steam deck

please dont tell me i pre ordered all this for nothing

cuz

my gpu wont work with it

i need a new 250 quid ray tracer one

[radiant quiver]

Potentially. Indiana Jones which is similarly speced and also on iDTech works on Steam Deck at 720p at 30fps and lowest settings (don’t remember if that’s with upscaling or not). So there’s a chance TDA will too, which is certainly not the ideal way to play it but at least it is playable.

[young matrix]

I think weakpoints might still be in the dark ages

The arachnotrons turret was glowing red in one section while dealing damage to it with the double plasma rifle (which has chain lightning damage btw… so that might be the super weapon for the game)

I think this might be a good thing tbh, considering the fact that if your too far the arachnotrons turret will rapid fire on you, making it to where you need to use the shield to avoid any damage, and it might be trouble if other demons are are agro on you (like a hell knight, but who knows if they just made it 1 on 1 against heavy and supers, there is a demon agro slider on modifiers after all so) but if quick enough, maybe you can blast it off with that blessed stake gun that might as well be the glaus cannon/ballista of the game

[upper oar]

Guys

I'm a little worried about the glory kills in the dark ages

[delicate grotto]

Seems to be the main critique atm

I’m gonna stay open minded. I like the idea, it’s a fresh change, but I do hope it’s a little more interesting on larger enemies.

[young matrix]

Im gonna be honest idc
Like yea, gk animations are cool however… especially near the end of Eternal, tires out, it’s the reason why i equip savagery because i don’t really wanna watch gk and want to get right back into the action of killing hordes of demons

[delicate grotto]

Yeah for sure. Especially with the emphasis on parrying.

[delicate grotto]

Yeah fair

[hard thistle]

Woke isn't even an ideology. It's a buzzword for conservatives to describe anything they dislike for being progressive.

[radiant quiver]

Well that’s what they co-opted it to mean. The word “woke” in the political sense was originally a term used by African Americans to mean they’re socially aware.

[hard thistle]

Well yeah. I moreso mean the current usage. To my knowledge the original usage of the word is like never used anymore, and I think wasn't even used in that way for as long as conservatives have co-opted it?

Not sure on that front though.

[slender saffron]

how much will dark ages cost?

[hard thistle]

It's already up to preorder. $70

[slender night]

For Standard

Deluxe is 110 iirc?

[upper oar]

Here in europe its 79,99€ for standard

@slender night yeah

[slender night]

Wish we could use euro too, why are we dorks

[upper oar]

@hard thistle the pc version?

[hard thistle]

Yes, it's on Steam

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1313873565145235506/1333852988191543367/image.png?ex=679a66e6&is=67991566&hm=68eb649543ccb846ed373a75b7f926c78d9c317966557631a258af999071a531&
Bought it a few days ago.

[upper oar]

Then yeah, steam keys for pc always cost at least $10 more

[slender night]

The MS Store version is gonna support Xbox Play Anywhere which is dope

[upper oar]

Less*

Im excited, but i was saying that the glory kills are too simple

I liked to watch the glory kills in eternal

Now its just simple punches

[autumn furnace]

yall preorder physical copy or digital?

[scenic lichen]

Do yall think the Baron of hell and Archvile will return

[slender night]

Isn't the Arch-vile in the new trailer

Baron may be gone, it did take a break for DOOM 3, that means it's capable of going away for a mainline game, and with how they changed it up for DE I think a break may happen

[slender onyx]

a doom game without the baron of hell just ain't right

also the lost soul that appeared for a few seconds in the showcase probably means the pain elementals will be back

[slender night]

DOOM 3 felt right and the Baron being absent isn't even noticeable until someone points it out

[slender onyx]

fair enough
im just saying like the baron is easily one of the most iconic doom demons

[south pilot]

between the baron , caco and pinky

[slender night]

That is true

[fading kelp]

You are right

Doom 3 has a lot of issues and it's not a terrible "game" but it's a bad doom

[grim cloud]

i still crave for some no commentary gameplay. A good 10 minutes would be good

[fading kelp]

The screen shaking, the demon design, the unfair parts, the shit shotgun (wich is the signature doom weapon), etc just to name a few

The horror elements too don't really work, it's not scary like at all it's just dark and you have to use more of your eyes

And what's saves it are the fine bosses and the lore wich is amazing in that one

The cinematics and whole scenery isn't too bad either

But compared to the other doom it's just not above any

Thats it I'm out before sonic argues

[hard thistle]

Doom 3 is a great game and a great Doom game.

[slender night]

Am I know as the arguing person now

[fading kelp]

Nah I was just joking bra

[slender night]

I'm fine with the most negative DOOM 3 opinion as long as it's an opinion the speaker developed themselves

[brazen heron]

@fading kelp do not cook bro DOOM3 is awesome

[fading kelp]

But don't try to argue when I said so many good points wich are not opinion, it's literally proven by so many people

[brazen heron]

DOOM3 is pretty much the most faithful reimagination of the OG DOOM

[slender night]

I won't even bother, I'm too tired to argue, let's just agree to disagree

[fading kelp]

Yeah and that's one of the good points

Now check the bad points

Classic doom had the music, the groove, the weapons, the demons, everything

[brazen heron]

DOOM2016 is overall a better game,but it's much more...like DOOM2 and Quake.

[fading kelp]

Doom 3 has some good but a lot of bad and no it's a good game, but in the doom franchise it's the weakest

You can't put it above doom 1&2

[fading kelp]

Quake classics are very nice

[brazen heron]

DOOM2016 makes you feel like a badass warrior against doom itf,not the very outmatched mostly human marine trying to survive like in the OG game.

[fading kelp]

True

[brazen heron]

I am sorry but D2 above D3?Come on!

[fading kelp]

Modern doom are what made me a fan

Thats why dark ages is the hypest doom has been

[brazen heron]

D2 is BARELY a proper game,it's more like a level pack.

[hard thistle]

"Proven" is a silly argument here. It's subjective.

[fading kelp]

It depends

Finding something good and seeing a shotgun spread to the sky is not the same thing

[hard thistle]

Doom 3 was highly well-received on release. It was widely considered to be a great game that suffered from being a little too faithful to the originals. This weird perception that Doom 3 was a bad Doom game is entirely new, and conjured up by nu-Doom fans who think the entire series should be like 2016 and Eternal.

[fading kelp]

The shotgun indeed spread and makes it so bad

Every other shotgun are better in doom

[brazen heron]

D2's level quality is an absolute mess

[unkempt thicket]

The Chasm

[hard thistle]

The shotgun spread is a subjective thing. I think it makes sense for the shotgun to have such bad spread because they want you to use every weapon - the shotgun is an effective close-range weapon, but you use the assault rifle for mid-range combat.

If the shotgun worked like it did in Doom 1-2, you wouldn't have touched the assault rifle.

[fading kelp]

But it has more going for it and new iconic demons like the revenant

[brazen heron]

First 12 levels are great,except like two levels,then there is the rest of the game,which is a total mixed bag

[fading kelp]

Doom the first in my opinion is too short on main campaign

[brazen heron]

Plutonia absolutely smashes both D1 and D2.It is peak classic level design...except for few levels.

[fading kelp]

Thats why doom 2 was needed

[hard thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1313873565145235506/1333866987906138122/image.png?ex=679a73ef&is=6799226f&hm=27a2150810f4ccc518682946f05393c9f84e55216813ff747c1503f9c092bd6f&
I definitely put Doom 3 above Doom 2 though, and if 2016's music weren't so good Doom 3 would be above that too.

[fading kelp]

Plutonia yes but I'm talking about the standard games

[brazen heron]

However it's difficulty might be...absurd at some times,especially in UV.

[fading kelp]

Hell nah what is that list

[slender night]

It's (mostly) greatness

[wheat sigil]

DE at the top? it's peak, perfection

[brazen heron]

D64 should be an A,OG DOOM should be B

[fading kelp]

Ancient gods part 1 is very good, part 2 has great parts but has a deceiving ending

[hard thistle]

I rank TAG as one thing.

[fading kelp]

Many pointed out and even the general reviews say that ancient gods part 2 is worse

[brazen heron]

I don't understand how any other game is at the same tier as DE though

TAG2 is certainly one of the DLC's of all time

[hard thistle]

I think both are great. TAG2 does a couple things I like more than TAG1.

[fading kelp]

Nah doom 64 is underrated, it's not great but above the inconsistency of doom 3 to me

[wheat sigil]

don't listen to the general audience when it comes to Eternal lmao, they often got... interesting takes
but tag2 is kinda meh though, yeah

[fading kelp]

Yeah of course

[brazen heron]

TBH neither TAG's are generally great.Both of them have bad qualities.

[hard thistle]

Doom Eternal ain't perfect. I think the weapon balancing is pretty flawed and the Battlemode shit was a waste of resources and time.

[fading kelp]

Nah at one point you feel like the gameplay in doom 3 is so slow that you want to destroy shit in the house

[slender night]

I'd honestly probably put DOOM 3 in S, I just can't be bothered to make a tier list

[brazen heron]

Most overrated DOOM is 2016 imo.2016 doesn't get enough criticism.

[slender night]

I think that's just you

[neon perch]

Every NuDoom game has strengths and weaknesses.

[fading kelp]

No it's super slow

[wheat sigil]

the weapon balancing is very flawed, if you only use 1 mod, for some reason, the mods usually complement eachother neatly and should be used in sync

[fading kelp]

You can't run well

[fading kelp]

Every doom games are good, some better than others

[fading kelp]

Just me? Brother go online and type doom 3 and see what opinion people have

[brazen heron]

The glazing for 2016 is insane tho,I never seen ANYONE shitting on it,it's a great game,but not a genre saver or changer

[slender night]

Most of that is just bias

[fading kelp]

True

Its mostly the perfect doom game but not the perfect fps

[wheat sigil]

tons of misconceptions that brings people to glorify 2016 and put down Eternal

[fading kelp]

Eternal is the perfect fps

[slender night]

Kid named Wolfenstein TNO:

[wheat sigil]

kid named minecraft bow duels:

[fading kelp]

M1 no you dont

[hard thistle]

2016 is a great game but it deserves more criticism for how it completely rips off Doom 3's plot. It is blatantly rehashing several things from Doom 3, and much of it was done better in Doom 3.

[brazen heron]

What part of the DOOM community is the worst in your opinion?

[fading kelp]

Alright I'm out that's why I don't use reddit and workout instead

[wheat sigil]

yeah.. minecraft bow duels are actually kinda mid lol

[fading kelp]

Or discord

[slender night]

Biased side. So much bias towards the 2000s media

[hard thistle]

The weapon balancing is also atrocious in 2016. The Gauss Cannon's Siege Mode mod is fucking absurd and so is the Super Shotgun's final upgrade where you can fire twice before reloading. You barely have any reason to use most weapons that aren't those.

[wheat sigil]

why can't you use discord and work out?

[slender night]

DOOM on Xbox 360 sucks because yeah! DOOM 3 sucks because yeah! DOOM 2005 sucks because yeah! It's just atrocious

[fading kelp]

Yall have terrible takes bro im out

[slender night]

See you soon

[fading kelp]

You provided no points

[brazen heron]

Wad stans are my least favorite.They constantly shit on anything post plutonia.

[fading kelp]

I wrote a lot

You just glazing doom 3 bro

[slender night]

I wasn't even trying to argue against you anywhere man, what are you on

I'm just calling out how people are biased towards these pieces of media for no reason

[fading kelp]

Yeah but at least say whats hoor about it

You can't even do that

[hard thistle]

To be fair you didn't actually write a lot. You just listed a bunch of things you personally think are bad about it without actually saying why they're bad.

[slender night]

It's biased, like I said, and bias is a bad quality

[fading kelp]

No the spread is real

[brazen heron]

Were doom games ever balanced?

[fading kelp]

The horror did it make you scared? You serious?

[hard thistle]

But you're just saying "shotgun spread." You aren't explaining why it's a bad design choice. I, on the other hand, explained why I thought it was necessary.

[wheat sigil]

Eternal is decently balanced, can't speak on the rest of them

[latent fractal]

what did i stumble into lmao

[fading kelp]

And many other weapons judt do more damage in other doom games

[brazen heron]

D3 Shotgun is an SSG on steroids,it's weaknesses and strengths amplified

[fading kelp]

The lighting makes it annoying to shoot and the screen shaking is not AN OPINION it's real real

[slender night]

Screen shaking is real, what you think of it is an opinion

[hard thistle]

I don't think the lighting makes it annoying to shoot.

[fading kelp]

Inconsistent

[latent fractal]

havent played d3 yet but the lighting looks so bad lmao. gameplay could be good tho idk

[fading kelp]

Yeah and it turns your whole camera

[slender night]

The lighting was revolutionary and is still great

[slender night]

I think that adds immersion which is necessary for the type of game DOOM 3 is aiming for

[fading kelp]

Yes but it's so dark

[slender night]

Ever seen a bright horror game?

[fading kelp]

Dead space is what doom 3 hoped to be

Play dead space remake

[slender night]

Can't argue with that because I have never played any DS

[latent fractal]

my take is you can cross of the line of "immersion" into the user experience, and glancing at d3 it looks like the immersion overtakes the user experience and just makes it annoying

[fading kelp]

When you play that and revisit doom 3 you will see why I say this

[slender night]

It doesn't, play the game

[slender night]

I've done many playthroughs of DOOM 3 and the screen shaking has never bothered me

[brazen heron]

@wheat sigil My guy, you played DE for like 1K hours,you should know how broken weapons can get

[fading kelp]

Actual good take

Frost byte my man that's real

[brazen heron]

DE is absolutely NOT a balanced game lmao,not as bad as 2016 but still

[latent fractal]

ive seen half the game a while back on a playthrough. the lighting is just not it for me. if u like it thats completely fine, i just prefer to have sufficient lighting to enhance the gameplay experience. the d3 lighting looks better for a horror game, not a shooter imo

[fading kelp]

No just good and fun for weapon switch?

Skill issue?

[fading kelp]

Bro you are on fire today

Bro is spitting facts

[slender night]

if u like it thats completely fine
Yeah you can say anything you want now. If you respect other opinions then you're based in my book

[wheat sigil]

I mean, dblade is busted for sure, lock-on burst and the shield are braindead and don't require a lot of skill while being very good

[slender night]

Unlike this guy who keeps saying subjective stuff is objective and rebounding everything with 'but muh general public!!!'

[fading kelp]

The bosses are boring also, they have like one attack and their design are without originality

[latent fractal]

of course dude what is the point of hating other people's opinions lmao

[wheat sigil]

but the balancing is still pretty decent

[brazen heron]

You don't even need to play this game for more than 200 hours to learn about the meta,once you finish mightmare,you understand it anyway

[hard thistle]

I think Doom 3 is an awesome game because:

• The story was great for a Doom game, with lots of cool supplementary lore that was fun to explore and dig into.
• The weapon balancing is among the best in the series, with almost every weapon having a purpose and use in your arsenal.
• Dr. Betruger is the best villain in the series, and served as an amazing boss as the Maledict.
• The way Doom 3 utilizes its revolutionary lighting mechanics and balances the flashlight with shooting weapons makes for fun action horror gameplay.
• It has plenty of great enemy designs, like the Bruiser, Cherub, Guardian, Maledict, and Pinky.
• I like how the PDA works and how it is integrated into the actual experience - same with how you interact with screens in-game.
• It feels like a modernization of the original Doom's design philosophies and its original intention to be a horror game.

[slender night]

Badass main theme also

[wheat sigil]

please explain the "meta"

[fading kelp]

I respect it but you didn't even defend like make me agree with you

[slender night]

Might be my favorite piece of music in any DOOM game

[fading kelp]

Probably the only one though

[latent fractal]

wym?

[fading kelp]

Me too

[slender night]

The game definitely has music, not sure why people think otherwise

[fading kelp]

If im establishing this many takes, he should at least tell a little

But alright

[latent fractal]

what

[fading kelp]

My friend also thinks in vr it was better than other

Doom 3 vr

[slender night]

m0no is absolutely defending his claims

[brazen heron]

I don't care much for it.There is PB + Rocket,PB + Ballista,and there is punchswapping and other exploit techs.I am not that much of a THAT tryhard.

[fading kelp]

Where is mono?

[latent fractal]

what do u want me to tell you? im lost sry

[fading kelp]

Let me check

[slender night]

Here, literally a minute ago

[fading kelp]

I agree

The lore is the best part

The weapons? Nah

[latent fractal]

dawg im gonna have an aneurysm

[fading kelp]

No it's ok dude 👌

[fading kelp]

Bro what?

[wheat sigil]

the optimal way to play Eternal is by utilizing all your weapons, while quick switching, and all your mods (excepot micro missiles and mobile turret)

[latent fractal]

im so lost as to what ur asking💀

[fading kelp]

Tell me what you need to be clarified?

[latent fractal]

oh i just saw this

[fading kelp]

Yeah

[latent fractal]

lmaoo mb

[brazen heron]

DE still has better balancing compared to 2016,where siege mode makes you near unstoppable combined with the stun bomb or with the chainturret.

[fading kelp]

They all look the same in doom 3 in color scheme

They are not vibrant

[brazen heron]

Oh also nearly unlimited BFG shots with the rich get richer.

[wheat sigil]

the game is good at not making weapons/mods useless, some mods just require more dexterity to be used efficiently, and micro missiles and mobile turret are still useful at the beginner level, and literally the rest of the 9 mods are always useful

[fading kelp]

If the horror worked I swear I would love this game

[latent fractal]

i personally love the cartoony, vibrant color pallet in eternal over the other doom games but ik thats not for everyone. i just like the arcade-like theme

[fading kelp]

Its just that it never scared me and a lot of people agree with me in the community, maybe not in this exact chat but yah

[brazen heron]

DOOM3's horror worked in it's release day,not anymore.Still,it's an unique experience.

[fading kelp]

Thats what I'm saying

Frostbite has the best take ngl

[latent fractal]

damn bro swallow when ur done

[fading kelp]

Frostbite don't worry I don't hate doom 3 I just think that it was a lot of deceiving stuff bit overall good

[fading kelp]

Tf bro

You weird asf

[latent fractal]

LMAO

[hard thistle]

DOOM is a large community, so you will be looking through a biased lens based on whichever subset you're on. The majority of Doom 3 haters I've seen tended to be nuDoom fans specifically who either hadn't played the game or never finished it, and are instead deriving their opinions from YouTube videos about it.

[fading kelp]

This is the internet

[brazen heron]

Am I the only one who didn't find DE to have a vibrant color pallette mostly?It just llooks washed and gritty even sometimes.

[hard thistle]

That could be an issue with your monitor/TV settings regarding brightness.

[latent fractal]

mb bro

[fading kelp]

The majority are not haters, they just played it and majority saw why it failed a little bit

[brazen heron]

DOOM3 is the best seller of the franchise though?

[hard thistle]

I'm using the term exaggeratedly. I simply mean "people who regard Doom 3 as a bad game."

[fading kelp]

Yeah cause it was a comeback

[hard thistle]

Because, like, Doom 3 being bad is not a majority opinion.

[fading kelp]

But it's the worst reviewed cause of the high expectations

[brazen heron]

DOOM3 is for people who played OG DOOM and DOOM2.It was not for hardcore nightmare players or for Plutonialike fans.

[fading kelp]

When I play doom I want to aim but I can't even do that cause the screen tilts my whole head on the opposite side

[brazen heron]

People got used to the heavy action but forgot what DOOM was originally about.

[hard thistle]

Doom 3 was a critical and commercial success; with more than 3.5 million copies of the game sold, it was the most successful game by developer id Software up to that date. Critics praised the game's graphics, presentation, and atmosphere, [...] GameSpot named Doom 3 the best computer game of August 2004, and later gave the game its annual "Best Graphics, Technical" prize.

[fading kelp]

The game changes

Thats what is so great about franchises

Its how they can take risk

And how it works in the modern gaming era

[hard thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1313873565145235506/1333872898082996274/image.png?ex=679a7971&is=679927f1&hm=90a1428783752ecc5565ae216678def3e70f544823ee752f43ddfc33ab9e72ed&
Yeah, Doom 3 was unanimously well-received on release.

[fading kelp]

At the time

People opinion change too

Best and worst 😂😂

Look

[brazen heron]

Hardcore NuDOOM fans don't like classic doom games either,so their opinions should not be taken seriously.

There are also classic boomers who also don't like D3.

[fading kelp]

Bro when they had Halo we had doom 3

...

[wheat sigil]

huh, it sounds like you're saying most hardcore 2016/Eternal players don't like the classics, which is just false

[fading kelp]

Yeah pretty false

I played doom 2 first

And now I'm an eternal grinder

[brazen heron]

Hardcore fans*

Like Underthemayo

[lapis sail]

why not original doom first

[fading kelp]

Cause doom 3 is temporary but ancient gods and doom 2020+ is eternal

[slender night]

That's not what it means, at all

[fading kelp]

Cause I thought the second one had more going for

Its longer

[wheat sigil]

define "hardcore"
because the best Eternal players that exist play/appreciate the classics

[brazen heron]

TAG is absolutley not eternal lmao

[fading kelp]

Its part of it bro

Have you heard of game dlc 🤡

[brazen heron]

It's not about how much they play,but rather how much they base their opinions on how much the game is similar to new doom games(like Underthemayo)

[wheat sigil]

that's not being a hardcore fan, that's being stupid

[brazen heron]

I meant the game is not gonna be remembered like Eternal.Ofc it's a DE DLC

[lapis sail]

fair enough

[cyan lotus]

The thing I dislike about underthemayo the most is that he’s not a very credible voice, just a very loud one, no accomplishments to his name that set him apart from anybody else that could be considered above average and his gameplay is nothing special

[brazen heron]

Trust me,there are people stupid like this,especially racing game fans

[fading kelp]

Why do people speak about under the mayo so much

There are so many better youtubers about doom

[wheat sigil]

because he's Tammie's dad

[brazen heron]

He is a DOOM focused channel,with unique opinions

[cyan lotus]

Unfactual

[fading kelp]

Yeah

Variety is what makes doom good

Thats why I don't stay in classic doom

[brazen heron]

He become very famous after that controversial video he made about that funny indie FPS.

[fading kelp]

I love classic fps in general

But to revisit the modern are better

[brazen heron]

Though UTM was always a hot takes guy.

[hard thistle]

People's opinions did not change lol, new fans came in and have a warped idea of what Doom should be and thus judge an older title for not living up to it.

[cyan lotus]

hot takes in the sense he’s contrarian

[fading kelp]

Yeah and they were not wrong

[hard thistle]

Even Doom 3's title of being the "black sheep" of the series is bullshit, because of all the modern games so far it's Doom 3 that plays most like the originals, not 2016 or Eternal.

2016 and Eternal are a much bigger step away from the original Doom identity - they play way more like Quake.

[delicate grotto]

So true.
I’ve seen so many fans who came in from Eternal shitting on Doom 3, and elements of TDA that were inspired from the classic games.

[fading kelp]

Quake was so good

[brazen heron]

I like classic doom,modern doom and DOOM 3 at the same time.It should not be a controversial opinion imo.

[fading kelp]

Yeah I said that also

But.......doom 3 is the weakest of the 3

Its replayabality is zero

[brazen heron]

My only controversial opinions are that DOOM 2016 is overrated as fuck and DOOM64 is the best classic doom game

[fading kelp]

Classic? Bro stfu it's modern

[brazen heron]

Confused the numbers lol

[fading kelp]

Modern asf

Oh alright you did a mistake my bad

[brazen heron]

It's the 64th doom game,it's very modern!

[fading kelp]

Doom 64 is underrated

True

Better than doom 3

[hard thistle]

Yeah. My opinion: I don't fuck with people who dislike any of these major "eras" of Doom. The Classic games are timeless, Doom 3 is incredible, and the modern games are masterpieces. The Doom franchise is consistently very high quality - Doom fans should be grateful for that, because there are a lot of series that are in a far worse state than this.

[delicate grotto]

Agreed

[cyan lotus]

he gives advice that isn’t all too practical, gets stuff wrong even, but he carries himself with this almost pretentious amount of confidence as if the words out of his mouth are infallible truth, I would not go as far to say he is a bad player, that would be disingenuous, but he thinks he’s a few pegs higher than he really is and makes a lot of people believe it while he’s at it

[fading kelp]

Doom franchise is known to be one of the great franchise

[brazen heron]

D64 released on 2250,when an actual demon invasion occurred!Very cool from ID!

[fading kelp]

Gow is also known for that on ps but don't care about that now

[brazen heron]

TNT and master levels moment

[hard thistle]

Neither are mainline installments in any case.

[fading kelp]

Yall have so much mixed take wich makes me confused

[hard thistle]

The actual, mainline, core Doom series is consistently very good.

[brazen heron]

There is also Legacy Of Rust,which is actually great,but it got forgotten very fast.

[fading kelp]

It is

[hard thistle]

Legacy of Rust rocked.

[fading kelp]

Duke nukem 3d?

It was way worse than doom but the comedic elements and the iconic lines makes it worth it

[brazen heron]

DN franchise has become irrelevant a long time ago though DN3D is way better than the og two games.

DN Forever was a very big fiasco

[fading kelp]

True

A mess of a franchise but a good doom copycat

The 3d one

Quake classic was imo the best 3d fps for like 7 years or more

[brazen heron]

OG Quake was peak,shame they turned it into a gtech based semi realistic shooter in the other games

[fading kelp]

Yeah

Well the last quake was very good for an arena shooter but arena shooters died so....

[vapid lodge]

assassin's creed

[arctic pagoda]

Imagine being so terrifying to demons that they make a religion out of you after you destroyed them in the medieval era

[wooden acorn]

Day 6 of 112

[cold tapir]

Do yall think my 4 year old gaming laptop would be able to run this game

[cyan lotus]

You are cooked

[boreal geyser]

depends on the specs

[cold tapir]

Yeah I'm not sure if I can remember what specs it has

Oh well if I can't run the game I'll just refund it

[boreal geyser]

System information on Windows can give you all answers

[radiant quiver]

Yep, what he said.

[cold tapir]

I know that but I can't open my laptop rn to see for myself

[boreal geyser]

Dont need look right now^^

[cold tapir]

I'll just might send you the specs tomorrow and tell me if they are alright

If that's okay

[quartz valve]

think soon you doom the dark ages "All fix"
F x,D!

[spare panther]

What

[hard thistle]

I thought I had to get a new laptop for this game but then I ended up realizing that dlss could in that case suffice lol (especially with the new transformer model update)

(at least I hope so)

I have a rtx 3070 laptop for context

[grim cloud]

where are teh barons!

And we need those Artbook Hellknight ideations like seriously, the best designed shit i seen in artbooks

[hard thistle]

that and the fact that the dark ages has raytracing by default, not path tracing lol

still not fully sure though

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1332168030074962020/1333879256828084397/Screenshot_20250128-111951_Gallery.jpg?ex=679a7f5d&is=67992ddd&hm=d58acdb53e71df11171bc0acde77ddccd65500b4d053fbc810a829866cb3d77b&

[grim cloud]

we are going back to Mars

[wooden acorn]

Unfortunately probably not, my 2 year old 2023 one can probably only run it on medium settings :(

[sand sparrow]

You named your child 2023? Still more normal than elon

[wooden acorn]

It was the first word I saw when they were born

[spare mist]

How many bosses will we fight in the dark ages

[tropic raft]

Im guessing 4-6

[arctic pagoda]

Hey

It is a good plot

We are witnessing the legend of the slayer begin

[tropic raft]

We pray it will win goty. If its a masterpiece

[spare mist]

The champion titan
Ahzrak

[daring flax]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCF4LyLCRzc
guys check out this video

[arctic pagoda]

They said this game explains its origins

They say it leads directly into 2016

[spare mist]

And the fat maykr

[arctic pagoda]

Pillsbury Dough Makyr

Cake makyr

[slender onyx]

i don't want the dark ages to end with doomguy being put in the sarcophagus

[hard knot]

yall think dark ages will be able to run on a intel ark a380 graphic's card ?

[spare mist]

Do you think the dlc to dark ages will be a prequel to dark ages and we meet the king novik

[slender onyx]

it should end with the argenta civil war starting or with the destruction of argent d'nur and doomguy going back to hell

[slender onyx]

i mean we'll probably see king novik in the main campaign so idk if that's gonna happen

[spare mist]

But we don't see king novik in the trailers

[still wedge]

I would kill to see more cutscenes where the Slayer actually fights. We got like, a tiny snippet of it in TAG2 but I wanna see some actual combat.
Freakin’ imagine if we saw him throw down with an Aggadon Hunter, dodging, parrying, and ending it with a badass shotgun finisher.

[slender onyx]

that would be really badass

personally i want more helmetless doomguy and dialogue (i will not stop insisting on this)

we already know TDA will be a lot more story and character focused so why wouldn't they show us more of doomguy besides just being a badass demon killing machine

like i want to know the guy

[copper torrent]

https://youtu.be/hkohjKPWmwU?si=kgcEqvyEFegx8sDM This is cool, but I wish they'd put the actual face with color there, as if it was an Iron Man helmet camera or something like that

[still wedge]

Made me so happy unironically.
I’m so excited to see lil bro grin when you grab a new gun

[hard thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/clearly-you-dont-own-an-air-fryer-jarvis-iron-man-meme-memes-gif-22588230

[slender onyx]

BIG same

[still wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-cursed-gif-22789046

[slender onyx]

imagine we get an option to put the original games hud face

[still wedge]

Where’s the shield gonna go

Oh my god imagine people get so mad abt all the new changes not being “doom” enough that they do no shield runs and stuff

I’m just happy they finally brought back slow bullets so that we can bob and weave effectively.
And the whole system where only certain highlighted bullets are parry-able makes for a great incentive to jump into fire.

[quasi escarp]

I would love a way to remove the shield in game to give players a challenge

[plucky plinth]

it's clear it's an essential component for some jumps in the game

as seen in the Direct gameplay footage

[still wedge]

Not to mention the whole bullet deflect thing I mentioned earlier!

[half umbra]

Never really understood what “Doom enough” meant. Not every new doom game that comes out should be exactly like the originals, innovations are welcomed to me at least

[still wedge]

Hell yea

[half umbra]

I understand and agree but if the game involves the same guy, has brutal gunplay/combat and has a metal and epic feel to it then I don’t see that as a bad thing

Or to elaborate, I don’t see any new changes added as a bad thing. But again I see what you mean

[delicate stirrup]

The "Doom enough" people remind me of the types who complain about COD being the same every year but chastise it when they change something.

[half umbra]

Exactly what I’m getting at

I understand you may not like the changes but there’s a point where you may have to ask what is doom?

I’m in no way upset at you or anyone for saying but I’m just curious to see your pov

I’m truly trying to understand different perspectives to grow even if I don’t agree with them

[brazen heron]

TDA is a return to the og formula....mostly.

[half umbra]

That’s perfect but my next question, what is doom exactly?

[brazen heron]

None of the modern doom games truly feel like doom to me.They are an evolution,for sure,but they evolved too much,for good and bad.
TDA is going to be more similar to the og games.

DE is awesome,but it is more of a quake game at this point .

[half umbra]

How so? I see it as every game has a new way of obliterating enemies or running down countless demons. You get super weapons and big guns

[twilit lantern]

One supershootgun

[brazen heron]

DOOM2016...is a great game,but I am not a fan of it.It is too goddamn slow,Slayer moves like a fucking turtle,monster count is small,none of the maps are very interesting or unique.

[half umbra]

Thank you

[brazen heron]

I also have DE bias because I played DE first instead of 2016.

[half umbra]

I like the game but I prefer eternal and classic doom over 2016

[oak yacht]

Does anybody know if dark ages is going to be available for Xbox one?

[cyan lotus]

It is not

[oak yacht]

😢😢

[half umbra]

New gen consoles and PC only

[green tusk]

Someone know the data of dark age?

when will it be released?

[winter idol]

may 15th

[cloud schooner]

Do you guys think we will get a classic doom guy skin of some kind returning?

[grim cloud]

My xbox says 5pm may 14th!

that is PST, so anyone can do the math for release time

[winter idol]

wonder how bethesda are releasing it

for eternal is was per timezone which was ass

i prefer worldwide releases

[grim cloud]

i dont remember eternal, i was super duper drunk by the time i could play

but not as drunk as i was for 2016

[winter idol]

i used a VPN to connect to new zeland

[cloud schooner]

I have a frend who hopes for the doom 3 ammor

[winter idol]

not sure if getting drunk to play is the best experience

[grim cloud]

well it certianly is a experiance. Its party night for me on big releases.

but usually just doom releases. #doom-eternal message

[oak yacht]

Who is all the people that came to immora (the last misión of ancient gods 2) to help you fight the demons?

[burnt panther]

Some of these “drama” for TDA has to be ai generated like I get id isn’t perfect but these takes are coming out of no where

[delicate grotto]

People are making problems for content.

[burnt panther]

Yeah

[still wedge]

Night Sentinels that are indebted to the slayer for battles he won for them long ago.

[plain iron]

I mean, I hope w my preorder i get it the day I pick it up

[crisp crown]

serious sam 4 seems better than doom dark ages

[atomic cipher]

Where was.i mentioned

I got a notification saying I was

[leaden oak]

is 100 bucks for premium addition going to be worth it... I'm still debating whether to just pay for base game or not, cuz 70 bucks is already kinda a lot

[feral vault]

yeah for sure! it was so bad it sold more than 2016

[cyan lotus]

if you dont like the game why would you play it

me personally i like doing things that i like doing

Thanks

[feral vault]

why cant people just recognize that the game is not for them

[half umbra]

😂

[ivory wind]

Is that a bad thing?

[terse bolt]

Me when I complain about gameplay variety in a game

actually lemme rephrase that

Me when I complain about movement mechanics in a movement shooter

gameplay variety helps a game from just being the same thing constantly

It helps a lot to put stuff in that empty space between arenas

Throw a couple enemies in a platforming segment and boom unique gameplay segment

[ivory wind]

Probably a rage baiter or someone who doesn't understand change

[hard thistle]

Fun fact

I dont gaf

[waxen glacier]

another day closer to the doom tda release... (I'm going insane)

[ivory wind]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/431265631866716186/846166318155431936/image0.gif

[waxen glacier]

[woeful quiver]

im counting the seconds.

[sweet escarp]

is there a website for wallpapers of this game?

[terse bolt]

what is bro yapping about

[remote thunder]

somebody got filtered

[burnt panther]

Rage baiting since the womb

[terse bolt]

Nahnah he’s cooking

this shit hilarious

yeah I kiss MEN

[waxen glacier]

💀

[terse bolt]

yours sure does

[waxen glacier]

brb gonna get popcorn

[burnt panther]

Get da butter

[terse bolt]

Damn so proud of her transition

[plucky plinth]

are you trying to be an ass?

[terse bolt]

what does that even mean lmao

[waxen glacier]

😭😭😭

[cyan lotus]

middle school lunch table insults

[waxen glacier]

ikr

[terse bolt]

I can’t decide if this is something to call the mods over but either way this is fucking hilarious

eh i probably should <@&162901871168585728>

[waxen glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-discord-mod-moderator-moderation-clash-of-clans-gif-24080525

[terse bolt]

well I can confidently say you are the funniest mf to grace this server in years

Godspeed you magnificent bastard

[remote thunder]

🫡

[burnt panther]

Damn guess I’ll die

[shut whale]

R we gonna get gameplay before the release date

[burnt panther]

Like more gameplay?

[shut whale]

@burnt panther yes

[plucky plinth]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[burnt panther]

No clue

[plucky plinth]

I sorta doubt it

but it's not out the realm of possibility

[shut whale]

Ok how about this do any of u believe Dark Ages will be the longest DOOM game

[plucky plinth]

well, every Doom game has been overall short, so it might be

though, it would never match the sheer number of levels Final Doom

[burnt panther]

It is probably gonna be longer than the doom 16 and eternal

[half umbra]

Possibly, the games are short but get progressively longer story wise

[shut whale]

Honestly I hope it's long and also I like if the slayer shield has a demonic skull, maybe we can get it as a cosmetic

[plucky plinth]

to be fair, it has no reason to

Final Doom had like 64 total levels

[hard thistle]

Or even a doom spiked mace 😀

[burnt panther]

A doom spiked doom guy

[shut whale]

I wonder wat abilities the cybernetic dragon will get

[hard thistle]

The dragon will have a fire breathing ability

I think

[shut whale]

I wish the dragon would have more than just fire breathing

[hard thistle]

He has a bar of what seems to be his fire breathing ability

[burnt panther]

I just want to see what the demons are gonna be like they seem really cool i think the game will be more fun at higher difficulties

[shut whale]

I hope it has high level demon warriors like the marauder

[hard thistle]

Civil war wont be happening in the main story

No civil war = no marauder

Im almost certain they will come back in the dlc

[burnt panther]

I would love to fuck them over with a parry

[remote thunder]

the ability to go beyond nightmare without console cmds is v nice

[hard thistle]

Dark ages is the closest we'll get to an rpg game with guns

The classic archvile's ability to ressurect demons would work perfectly with the near limitless demon count of tda

So if they're bringing him back he has to have that ability

And the civil war happens after that

And it lasts for years

The base game will most likely end with this

Not in the base game

[unborn tiger]

when will we get a prequel to doom 93 where you're doomguy but as a toddler

glory killing bullies

[strange oak]

This might sound silly but my only worry with dark ages is having too many speaking characters. Being alone and really tuned into the music even while not fighting is great and have someone yap in your ear 24/7 would just kinda piss me off.

[hard thistle]

Then skip cinematics

Simple

[strange oak]

This is what I mean

[dusty compass]

I’m I the only one who thinks the unmaker from doom 64 should return for Doom the dark ages instead of the bfg and hopefully redeem itself from doom eternal

[long arch]

reminder to people that if Trump has his way GPU and other PC part prices are going to go up soon
so if you are able to upgrade it's probably better to do it before semiconductor chips get tariffed

[strange oak]

GPUs aren't manufactured in the US right?

[tribal lagoon]

The Outer Worlds, Fallout, Cyberpunk 2077, Borderlands, Warframe, System Shock

[delicate grotto]

It’ll probably have more campaign content than any of the mainline Doom games, unless you count Final Doom, but that was more of a map pack than a standalone game.

[strange oak]

for sure, it has no multiplayer so

[delicate grotto]

Yeah. I don’t think the story is going to be that much longer than the last two games, but with an emphasis on exploration, I’m definitely expecting a lot more additional content within the levels themselves.

[plucky plinth]

Starfield

[heady jacinth]

sometimes there are benefits to being an aussie lol

[tribal lagoon]

Yeah that too

[neon perch]

I love that he has to shoehorn in the DOOM bit.

'Hang out with your friends, take them to the movies, and then shoot them with a BARBIE shotgun'.

[hardy solar]

Uhh... What about the Fallout games?

You mean the closest to a DOOM rpg with guns

In a true rpg you have to make moral choices regarding the story and your character, I doubt The Dark Ages (or any DOOM game) lets you do that

An RPG is a game that lets you customize your story, not just your playstyle

A DOOM RPG would let you play as a female Slayer for exemple, or choose a side between good and evil

[lilac dagger]

I lowkey wanna buy the collector edition but I'm not sure entirely

[hardy solar]

So far, the DOOM series is just a very elaborate boomer shooter

[hardy solar]

Personnaly it's the first ever collector's edition I'm buying, but I think it's very worth it compared to other collector's editions we got so far

[lilac dagger]

I was late to buy Eternal's collection edition

That's why I'm thinking of buying this one

[hardy solar]

Personnaly I wasn't convinced by the Doom Eternal collector's edition, I thought it was too pricy and I wasn't interested in a big plastic helmet

[lilac dagger]

I mean, I would wear that helmet everywhere ngl

[hardy solar]

I would love to wear a Doom Slayer cosplay, but it wouldn't be the same without the full armor

Since they don't sell the full armor, I would have to make it myself, but it would be too much work and I'm already working on other art projects

Buying the helmet would drive me crazy about getting a full Slayer armor

Besides, I don't think I would buy a full armor if it was more than $1000 (which it would probably be), there's already too much stuff I want but that I can't afford

Compared to that, a $100, 12" Slayer statue (not including the game's price) is very reasonnable and affordable

[remote thunder]

just pick your ttrpg of choice and homebrew the guy in there 🌝

[hardy solar]

Now I just gotta refrain from buying the $200 12" Doom Eternal Dark Horse figure, that would be nuts but not so reasonable

[placid saffron]

It's very easy not to spend on stupid stuff atleast

[hardy solar]

Depends on what you call "stupid stuff"

If you ask my mother, all videogames are stupid stuff

Something can be cool but useless, stupid or not is a point of view

Art itself can be useful or useless, smart or stupid

But I agree, a lot of things are clearly not worth buying

I buy this game because I think it's a great piece of art and because I will have a good time playing it, but some people would call this stupid

For exemple I think buying Legos is smarter than other toys because an adult can play with it and build a lot of cool things, but spending too much in Legos will always be stupid

Maybe spending $200 in a Lego Doom set could be seen as stupid, but maybe I would do it anyway because I love Doom and Legos. I would say the limit between smart and stupid purchase is how much I can spend in useless stuff without ruining the money I could spend on more important things

[boreal geyser]

Or just place them in a gaming room for a better look. That what I do for years😄

And not only lego. Other companies are even better and cheaper

[hardy solar]

Not everyone can afford a separate bedroom and gaming room though, you always gotta make choices

[boreal geyser]

I have one room😄

[hardy solar]

You always got a limited space in your house, so if you buy too much things over years it will eat up your living space

A lot of Lego enjoyers have come to this problem, so you just shouldn't buy everything you would want to, but only what really matters to you

[boreal geyser]

Yeah, thats indeed a problem🤣

[hardy solar]

For exemple, this Slayer statue will probably be one of the few statues I will buy in my life, I wouldn't buy it if I wasn't sure about it

[placid saffron]

Well you hope you'll have a good time, even the gameplay showcase wasn't near final 😔

[hardy solar]

Until then no Doom game have deceived me (even the old ones which are sometimes hard to enjoy today), so I have confidence that I will be able to have a good time on this one, at least visually as an art piece

I hope the gameplay and soundtrack will be as good too

[placid saffron]

You don't have to be "decieved", you just have to not buy product practically blind

[heady jacinth]

As far as I've played, no doom game has been a stinker gameplay-wise so it'll most likely be pretty good at worst, minus personal preferences.

[boreal geyser]

I need more informations. PS5/Pro Modes and if dualsense can be used on PC. I dont want pre-order before that is announcement🫤

[heady jacinth]

I also tend not to buy blind unless it's cheap or I know it's right up my alley though.

[placid saffron]

There's always room for a first, especially since they're now owned by microsoft

[heady jacinth]

Oh yeah I'm not discounting the possibility of completely ballsing it up, I'm just acknowledging their track record.

[hardy solar]

I wouldn't call it blind, the trailers and art look great, I don't have any reason to doubt the game's quality. If the game turns out to be bad, then I will have a reason to doubt and to not pre-order the next Doom game

[plain iron]

I have disposable income rn so it doesn't matter to me

[heady jacinth]

Also Doom is a big pull fo microsoft an iirc they generally left id to do their thing.

[plain iron]

Shout out to the government for paying my bills

[placid saffron]

Sensitive remark for the americans in chat 😔

[plain iron]

Yeah, most of the time the publisher doesn't do shit, they just promote it and serve as their platform

[heady jacinth]

I'll def probably watch someone play it first anyway, I'm very unlikely to get it on release.

[placid saffron]

The trailer's gameplay wasn't near final product though, plus we haven't heard any independent reviewers about it yet

[plain iron]

The trailer was a mishmash of different builds

[placid saffron]

Same, the price tag is just stupid + to me the trailer gameplay looked quite meh anyways

I really hope they'l at minimum remove all the slowmo actions lol

[plain iron]

We can tell from the boob button changing and the HUD face changing

[heady jacinth]

Some get very handsy when it comes to development but this arrangement seems quite hands off.

[placid saffron]

Game will nearly give you whiplash as it seems every third action slows the game down

[plain iron]

I think it's moreso a thing to show off the animation

[placid saffron]

They where too frequent during the gameplay section to be just that, it repeated too many times

[heady jacinth]

Oh I'm def not going to take my assumptions for final product from the trailer this far out from elease because I know it's not quite finishe yet.
I also haven't seen it lol

[plain iron]

Wasn't id owned by bethesda back in eternal's release 😭

[placid saffron]

Same but i hope they'll be different later too

[heady jacinth]

Yeah but I think it was about the same anyhow

[plain iron]

I might just be misremembering

[placid saffron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/890909009526267935/1332058588906000435/image.png?ex=679b1ffc&is=6799ce7c&hm=3107a04ddd0969f6155c146703de0ebf99956dd37934611f75b8067d4b685198&
I also hope this will be heavily reduced 😭

[plain iron]

what part

[heady jacinth]

I use these sorts of trailers as more of a general idea of what it will be like.

[placid saffron]

Yes.

[plain iron]

Girl.

I assume the cost? It doesn't seem too bad

[placid saffron]

The design principles around them rather

[plain iron]

I'd prefer that over scouring the levels for argent cells/sentinel crystals

[placid saffron]

Coat is relative we have no clue what it's really "worth"

[heady jacinth]

ik bethesa bought out i a while back an then micosoft bought bethesa but both companies Do seem to be hands off?

[placid saffron]

I heavily prefer more single digit tokens over a currency that reaches in the hundreds

More tightly managed that way

[plain iron]

We could have a hub where we buy knick knacks

I'd love to buy tiny little things

[heady jacinth]

Cost is probably something that woul be change between now and release (assuming the devs decide it needs changing ofc)

[plain iron]

There's also a chance theres optional tolls

[placid saffron]

The upgrade itself i also dislike: an upgrade that's just a range increase is too meh and it can indicate uninspiring stat upgrades which are ew

[plain iron]

Like in hollow knight

You don't need to pay the toll, but it'll be cool

[placid saffron]

Doom charms 🗣️

[plain iron]

That's literally the runes in eternal

[heady jacinth]

Hopefully either it ens up close to what you would like or doesn't etact too much from the expeience fo you when it gets elease

[plain iron]

Oh my God TDA could wind up being a metroidvania

[heady jacinth]

Like I sai, I didn't watch the trailer ar people thinking it'd be more open world than levels?

[plain iron]

We will probably gain access to better "powers" the further we go on, meaning we can go back and find shit we couldn't before. LIKE A METROIDVANIA.

[hardy solar]

Well I prefer playing it first-hand before hearing other people's opinions on the game. Some critics can be really harsh and unfair and disgust me from enjoying the game the way I should

[heady jacinth]

Because if it is I'm not sue how much I'd like that change but probably not enough for it to impact the game.
At least it'll give me moe space to un away lol

[plain iron]

Me fr

eep !!

Tha demons

[hardy solar]

Even if the game is bad, I want to play it myself to make my own opinion and not just listen to other people

[placid saffron]

That's why you look at multiple reviews, most importanrly from reviewers who generally share your taste, and look at gameplay yourself

[heady jacinth]

That's also fair, it can be hard to tell what's ba faith criticism or pesonal complaints.

[plain iron]

If I spend money on something I have to enjoy it

It could be the worst game ever

[placid saffron]

Dropping the premium peice microsoft asks blindly is just so... no to me

[heady jacinth]

But also all we have is a trailer right now so plenty of time for our opinions to change.

[plain iron]

But I'll be damned if I can't find some enjoyment in a shit game

[placid saffron]

If i pay blindly i'll atleast do it on like 5+ games for the price i do 1 new AAA game 😭

[placid saffron]

It could be worse then shit: it could play blandly

[heady jacinth]

Oh yeah if I'm buying a game I know is shit somehow but I'll still enjoy I'm not paying full pice uless full pice is absuRDly cheap.

[plain iron]

Girl I play fallout. It really just matters on if it's a ip I enjoy

[heady jacinth]

e.g I would absolutely buy and play balan wonderworld but not for more than like... $5

[plain iron]

If it's a ip I fw I don't care I'm enjoying it

[placid saffron]

Fallout tends to not be that bland

[plain iron]

Even if it hurts me 😔

[plain iron]

Main game fallout 4

[placid saffron]

Though it's... still a bethesda open world game usually

[plain iron]

Unmodded cause I'm on ps

[heady jacinth]

Bland is also personal taste as well.
I once played a bit of the postgame of AC3 rp-ing as like... a were-cougar.

[placid saffron]

Ouch

[plain iron]

I have no idea what a good game is

I got my rose tinted glasses and I get 400 bucks a fortnight

We fucking ball chat

[placid saffron]

Indies 😎

[plain iron]

Next payday we gon get a disk drive for my ps5

[heady jacinth]

I treat 'good' as two seperate adjectives.
There's subjectively good (general) where the consensus is that the game is good (i.e RDR2)
And there's subjectively good (personal) where I really liked/enjoyed my time with it but can acknowledge the game is shit (i.e Sonic 06)

[plain iron]

I rarely play AAA games, and even more rarely shooters 😭

[placid saffron]

Corporate games are inherently bad because all you're doing is paying the upper echelon of wealth more whilst trying to enjoy art 😎

[heady jacinth]

Pocket Card Jockey for the Nintendo 3DS, the best game ever made.

[plain iron]

I think the only shooters I have are all doom and cod ghosts

[placid saffron]

Tbh shooters are a neglected genre because of how "easy money" it is for big studios to just do the bare minimum

Hell even most boomer shooters, whilst still ramped up in speed compares to the cover-esque shooters, still have like no complexity at all generally

[heady jacinth]

Yeah shooters need to be have a je ne sais quoi to make me interested enough to play them, it's why doom is like the only fps I play

[plain iron]

I play shit like cult of the lamb, hollow knight, terraria occasionally, what ever postal is

And a lotta warhammer

I'd be fucked w the lore but God damn I love mechanicus

[heady jacinth]

And why I'm slightly interested in bo6 when I dgaf about cod.
The slight lore I've heard makes it sound batshit enough to be right up my alley, but not for the price it is on steam rn.

Plus you could NEVER get me in a cod lobby. I have standards dammit XD

[plain iron]

Yeah it's balls

I played a lotta bo2 as a kid and that affected my vocabulary

Which is why I never go on vc because I will get banned

[hardy solar]

I prefer not knowing too much about the game before playing it, and once again I am confident in ID's competence to make good games and I am confident in my own taste to know if a game is good. I could be mistaken, but I know the risks. For now I trust ID Software, if they break that trust and if the game is bad, then I will aknowledge my mistake and I wouldn't trust ID anymore, and I wouldn't preorder any future ID game

[placid saffron]

I'm the opposite, i don't play warhammer at all BUT i do like watching lore stuff

[heady jacinth]

It'd be like me climbing into a small monkey enclosure at the zoo.
I'd probably be mostly fine but why the hell would I do that.

[plain iron]

I love lore too, my brain is just full of maykr lore rn so I can't focus on anything else

I'm doing a biology study on how them bitches work

[heady jacinth]

I get it, I hope that trust isn't betrayed.

[plain iron]

I wish I had a actual cadaver for it

GIMME DEAD ANGELS

Best I got is samur's damaged model

[placid saffron]

Lol there's like nothing much in depth there

[plain iron]

THERE IS THO

LIKE

[placid saffron]

Well it's your loss at a premium so sure, i sure as hell won't take that bet at these prices

[heady jacinth]

Prices games are nowadays I prefer researching a lot of games before jumping in and buying them. There's a few I'd buy without caring but they're mostly franchises I know I'll enjoy regardless.
And even fewer I'd actively avoid spoilers for.

[plain iron]

HOW DO THEY CHANGE FORM.

[placid saffron]

I only pre-ordered once in recent memory and it was blasphemous 2 after i just played the first, and it was a week from release anyways

They just do