the-dark-ages

[fading kelp]

Horde mode and master levels are what makes eternal so much harder than it could have been

And I love that

[wheat sigil]

mods...

[stuck sparrow]

Have u played the fromsoft games

[fading kelp]

Some mods I like and others I hate

[wheat sigil]

idek what fromsoft is

[burnt panther]

I only changed the difficulty from hurt me plenty to ultra violence because plenty was too easy

[cyan lotus]

Dark souls devs

[burnt panther]

Dark souls sekiro and other games

[wheat sigil]

oh lol

[stuck sparrow]

How do u play hard games but not know fromsoft

[wheat sigil]

not a big fan of those type of games

[slender night]

M1 loves Elden Ring

[fading kelp]

I don't like people not completing the game normally because they have skill issue and cheat with mods but apart from that if it's only for appearance I'm cool with mods

[burnt panther]

My favorite game so far was armored core

Tho it was my only fromsoft game

So

[wheat sigil]

I don't necessarily play hard games, but I do like a challenge in the games I play

[cyan lotus]

Hurt me plenty is more like hurt me mildly, it’s a tad funny naming

[wheat sigil]

I don't play a ton of games

[slender night]

M1 you have some time logged on Getting Over It

[stuck sparrow]

Elden ring dlc is the most challenging but most fun thing Ive ever done in a video game

[slender night]

You do play hard stuff!

[wheat sigil]

it's mostly doom eternal and then a bit of beat saber, plus btd6 when I'm in class

[fading kelp]

Noice

[stuck sparrow]

Well Ive probably done harder things but elden ring dlc was the most fun

[wheat sigil]

oh true lol

I lost all of my progress💔

[stuck sparrow]

Have any of u played celeste dlc

[slender night]

I fell all the way down from Orange Hell I will never recover mentally

[burnt panther]

I cannot play games like getting over it

I know I would break something expensive

If I failed

[stuck sparrow]

Ive beaten getting over it more than 60 times 😔

[fading kelp]

So doom the dark ages.....

[burnt panther]

Oh yeah that game

[slender night]

I had insane rage issues as a kid, I remember playing Angry Birds with my mom and telling her to kill me because I missed a pig

[fading kelp]

There is a lot to uncover, like what was a biblical devil doing in doom

The betrayer before he betrayed, we will see that of course

[burnt panther]

I used to rage at multiplayer games but I just get off it I meet something dumb but single player games I mostly can only be mad at myself which leads to anger

[fading kelp]

With the son being the soul of the icon of sin

[burnt panther]

The unbetrayed

[slender night]

I just do other shit if I get mad

[stuck sparrow]

Fighting games are the games that make me rage the hardest

[fading kelp]

Well he was good before

[slender night]

I don't really get mad at games anymore but other stuff can piss me off

Breathe in, breathe out, do not snap the remote in half

[plucky plinth]

Snap the remote in half anyways

[slender night]

Did that once, pretty cathartic but then the realization hits in

[wheat sigil]

most fun thing I've ever done in a video game is probably some mod for eternal

[plucky plinth]

I've never broken a controller, surprisingly

[fading kelp]

Me neither

[plucky plinth]

hell, my original PS4 Dualshock controllers I got with the console still work

[burnt panther]

Same but I did throw a Xbox down the stairs but i have no memory of

[plucky plinth]

without stick drift, even

[solemn flower]

Do you think there will still be enough Collectors Editions preorders left to buy in 2-3 weeks

[stuck sparrow]

I beat the final dlc boss after 276 attempts over 8 hours, absolute peak gaming

[fading kelp]

I bit my controller once and left a mark like Xqc

[slender night]

A whole ass Xbox?

[plucky plinth]

My friend did that by accident to their 360

[frigid nova]

[fading kelp]

It was an Xbox controller too

[burnt panther]

They have to be lying to me I swear I have never done that

[slender night]

I feel like that's something you would remember yeah

[burnt panther]

Kinda hard not to

Repressed the rage

[fading kelp]

Yeah especially when there are people playing on the same console

[burnt panther]

I am a only child

[slender night]

As a kid I once got mad at something and hit my forehead with my mouse, felt a small scar, shit myself mentally and run to my mom asking about it, turns out it's a scar I got as a toddler because I tripped, I just so happened to hit myself in the exact same spot

[wheat sigil]

that's a crazy amount of time lmao

[slender night]

Way past rage, especially the physical kind, I just stare at the game screen judgementally until I feel ready to return which surprisingly enough works

[burnt panther]

I used to get really titled over a mobile game suprised I never broke the remote I would always search for the most fluffy thing to punch

Not animals

[fading kelp]

Sorry and glad for you

[stuck sparrow]

I started fighting him again earlier today but this time with a way worse weapon and at a way lower level 😼

[burnt panther]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-dog-french-bulldog-punch-naomi-gif-310537698707860751

[burnt panther]

I got the best and worst of both worlds

Not sure which one I prefer

[plain iron]

I'm not a only child

[slender night]

Glad I knew how to get through the red barrel in Sonic 3 before reaching it, it's apparently a place where people either rage or try to figure it out for hours

[wheat sigil]

how would the weapon you start figthing with impact the fight?

[burnt panther]

A bad sibling makes me want to end it all

[stuck sparrow]

It deals way less damage so it takes a lot longer to kill and stagger him

[wheat sigil]

yeah but you can switch weapons

[burnt panther]

Doom guys drip gets better every game

[wheat sigil]

you only used a single weapon intentionally?

[stuck sparrow]

Ye but I choose to use a worse weapon on purpose to make the fight harder, I beat the entire game and dlc with that weapon as a challenge

[slender night]

I hope for TDA we get demon skins and that ugly proto DOOM II cover art Cyberdemon is in it

[rain glen]

It says the minimum is icore 10700k apparently. But I suppose thay depends on rtx because I've got a icore 9700k so I'm sure it'll be fine.

[vague otter]

I just killed the khan maker for the 3rd time

[limpid ridge]

How long has the dark Ages officially been in development?

[wheat sigil]

you only used a single weapon for your entire playthrough?😭

[stuck sparrow]

Yuppp, elden ring is pretty short if u focus on the main objectives

[limpid ridge]

You can kill her in under a minute lol

[stuck sparrow]

Using a single weapon is also pretty normal, its not like doom where u switch all the time

[wheat sigil]

ohh lmao, I thought we were talking about doom

[stuck sparrow]

Oh no 😭

[vapid lodge]

Wait a second, serious question.... why are SKINS needed if there's no Multiplayer? You can't see yourself except the cutscenes

[limpid ridge]

Bro found a loophole x3

[burnt panther]

Just because

And money yeah that will do it

[vapid lodge]

maybe invasion ?

Imagine invasion mode in TDA

[limpid ridge]

I don't need any skins, the default skin is drippy asf

Fur cape like take my money fr

[burnt panther]

Not doom guy wearing my favorite tint of green

[plain iron]

I wonder what the menu screen is gonna look like

How are we gonna see atlan skins.

Like when we put them on

That thing is giant

[vapid lodge]

I think you can help me a little, since in planning to find the correct color code. Do you happen to know the color code or how to mix it with acrylics ? Its not a very common color ... idk Im just asking

im sure I can google it anyway

[burnt panther]

Maybe it will be one of those menus that change depending on what option your on

[plain iron]

OH I CAN DO THIS

[burnt panther]

Yeah no sorry 😞

[hardy solar]

Can we say The Dark Ages has the best collector's edition we got so far?

[burnt panther]

Why is my dryer electrically charged

[stuck sparrow]

No cause it doesnt have a helmet

[half umbra]

I used to not care for skins in any fps game but you can see doom guys arms and legs during cutscenes so to me it feels cool to know I’m using skins like the cultist slayer or blood slayer for drip

[vapid lodge]

Understandable

[hardy solar]

I don't want just a helmet lmao, I want the full Doom Slayer

[stuck sparrow]

Someone tell me how to find a helmet, I physically yearn for it

[hardy solar]

What quality can we expect from the Dark Ages Slayer statue though?

[fading kelp]

Of course cause in single-player you don't flex for others

👍

[half umbra]

Well I guess that depends on the person, I always thought using skins in CoD was pointless since it gives you no competitive advantage but it would be hypocritical for me to say that considering the same goes for Doom eternal

regarding that I guess my question to you all is what is your favorite doom eternal skin if you have any?

[hardy solar]

Any idea?

[stuck sparrow]

Green marine

[vapid lodge]

We can think about 2016 Rev Statue and Eternal helmet, they were really not bad at all. So I highly doubt TDA statue is gonna be bad

[half umbra]

Nice pick

[delicate grotto]

It’s going to be decent quality. TDA’s statue lets you detach his weapon for 3 different ones which is pretty cool. Think the cape is also detachable.
It looks awesome too.

[stuck sparrow]

Eternals revenant is such a pos

I remember doing a slayer challenge thing and failing a few times

Then I got desperate and shot him with the bfg

[wintry roost]

OUH OUH OUH OUH OUH

[plain iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278629590797123602/1333198039044591738/Untitled819_20250127091241.png?ex=679804ee&is=6796b36e&hm=d1be3862f31018baa5292c61d249f9b000ca1761573a4683f14b03331d7e8bc8&

Tada :3 lights n shadow

[stuck sparrow]

And his shield blocket it

My world shattered

[zenith briar]

Give us an Isabelle skin

[hard thistle]

what?

revenants dont have shields

[stuck sparrow]

Wait no wrong name, whats the summoner dude called

[slender night]

Arch-vile

[hard thistle]

archvile

[stuck sparrow]

Yeee, idk how I confused them

[vapid lodge]

yeah this is helpful thanks, I suppose the same color is for TDA armor too

[half umbra]

I’m amazed that there hasn’t been a mod for that

[plain iron]

I'd say it'll be more grey, but yeah

[zenith briar]

I’m convinced Animal Crossing made up for at least 1/10 of Eternal’s sales

[burnt panther]

The memes were peak

[zenith briar]

Also a bit off topic but I really don’t think there’s it’s a stretch to say that TDA will be a launch title for switch 2 given a video I saw from a former developer of some previous Nintendo systems.

[fading kelp]

Yeah, but at least it's only you seeing it you know

[zenith briar]

I know Mario Kart is a whole different animal from modern doom

[stuck sparrow]

Has anyone played ultimate doom multiplayer?

I used to play with my mom on the same screen, that shit was so fire

The second player was always grey iirc

[zenith briar]

But he brought up some good points about volumetric lighting and shadows

[half umbra]

I feel you, to be honest after buying skins in Fortnite and not playing the games for months on end(it got boring to me) I would get destroyed by jobless teens. It made me feel like buying skins were a waste 😂

[zenith briar]

At high frame counts

[half umbra]

I prefer buying/unlocking skins in single player games just for my satisfaction

[stuck sparrow]

Theyre kinda just collectibles

I love collectibles in eternal

Theyre satisfying to find

[half umbra]

Same, I loved the feeling I got when I unlocked the master level items/skins since it also made you feel like you earned it

[stuck sparrow]

Doom so peak, they made peak 1, somehow made peak 2 even better and are now planning on making peak 3 EVEN BETTER

The unholy trinity will be legendary

King of modern shooters

[slender night]

RAGE 2, TNO, DOOM 2016

My personal holy trinity

[wheat sigil]

I honestly doubt TDA's combat will be better than Eternal's

[stuck sparrow]

Same but i feel like the story will make up for it, I expext a lot from the campaign this time

[slender night]

Can't wait for Doomguy to go "Together, we are doom, eternal"

[fading kelp]

True

[stuck sparrow]

They did that in doom eternal already

[slender night]

Peak writing

[fading kelp]

...

That sounds corny ngl 😂

[stuck sparrow]

Im excited for him to say, this looked doomed guys

[fading kelp]

But yeah no it would be cool

[stuck sparrow]

"This shotgun is so cool, its like a super shotgun!"

[wheat sigil]

I personally could not care less about the story lol

[slender night]

We unite... to take doom to hell on earth!

[stuck sparrow]

I just hope the missions are cool

Sm of the audio logs in eternal were so badass

Like the resistance seeing doom guy as a god basically

Holy peak

[ebon shale]

I hope he says "It's doomin time" and dooms all over the place

[hard thistle]

Meet your dark age demon

[stuck sparrow]

"Doom mech, u go left, doom dragon, u go right and samuel, u just be samuel"

[slender night]

Let's make this playfield ours. This is doom... bfg edition.

[ebon shale]

Id should really hire you guys

[stuck sparrow]

Doom movie wouldve been good if I wrote it

[slender night]

DOOM movie was good already!

[hard thistle]

I shall give you doom, 2016 times

[stuck sparrow]

Idk I never watched it

[dawn wasp]

Man I can't get over how excited I am for DOOM The Dark Ages! It sounds like the levels are gonna be kinda like the classic DOOM levels that are less linear and more open and maze like!

[stuck sparrow]

Looks like we got company (as 2 gigantic titans step on the base)

[haughty idol]

Does the asus ally meet the system requirements to run this game?

[stuck sparrow]

What even is that

[haughty idol]

The only real steam deck competitor

[stuck sparrow]

Wait wtf Ive litterally never seen that

That looks so cool

@haughty idol u should chzck the specs and ask in general, theres a person there that knows a lot about specs I think

[haughty idol]

I dont understand anything about computers so the minimum system requirements doesnt mean anything to me

[stuck sparrow]

Real

[grim cloud]

wonder if there will be a magazine cover coming out with new info. maybe feb or march?

sadly gaming magazines are going away

[haughty idol]

They’ve been gone for nearly 20 years now

[grim cloud]

pc gamer still around, just checked it. small chance they do a cover story

[haughty idol]

How?

Nobody is buying them

Which is weird because everyone says they miss gaming magazines

[grim cloud]

just saying, it still exists, whehter marketing goes there or not remains to be seen

[burnt panther]

Mowing down through armies is gonna be sick

[celest sun]

Praise the destruction of the armies of Hell!

Bring down down the heavens wrath!

[quasi escarp]

I still remember getting them, and only wanting the toys and stuff

[grave cave]

hells gonna get ripped to shreds at may 15th

and may 13th

[simple mist]

I gotta temporarily uninstall social media around may 13th cuz spoilers will be everywhere

[summer tulip]

How much storage is it gonna take

[cyan lotus]

I hope TDA has railboosts

[tribal lagoon]

according to steam 100gbs

[grave cave]

ill delete every game i have installed to play this hell of a game!!

[unkempt thicket]

I wonder why does The Dark Ages have Denuvo while it was the same thing Eternal removed?

The latter most likely due to backlash, if I remember correctly.

[zenith briar]

My birthday literally when all hell breaks loose this year

[grave cave]

[solar drift]

The Denuvo anti-cheat was removed quickly after backlash. The Denuvo anti-tamper remained until one of the final patches the game received.

[sterile sage]

New main villain name is azhrack?

why do games that don't even have multiplay require DENUVO?

[plucky plinth]

because AAA studios fucking suck

if a game has DRM, I basically only get it on console

[winter idol]

very low chance dark ages gets denuvo

[plucky plinth]

it has it

[winter idol]

that indiana jones game didnt get it

[winter idol]

does it say on steam?

[plucky plinth]

Yep!

[winter idol]

kinda cringe

[plucky plinth]

Kinda?

It's cringe times x2.5e10

[winter idol]

i care less cause it wont matter on my pc but for others yea, thats annoying

[plucky plinth]

actually, I think I did that notation wrong

ignore my subpar math skills

[plucky plinth]

I don't even care about the possible performance loss, I care about the DRM itself

it's a single-fucking-player game

it shouldn't need DRM like that

[winter idol]

i think its antipiracy

[plucky plinth]

Antipiracy, DRM. Potato, potato.

I'm getting the PS5 Collector's Edition only because it has a physical version

[sterile sage]

Is there a new game plus for this game?

[plucky plinth]

nothing confirmed

though I doubt it, seeing the other Doom games lack such

[fervent cypress]

New game looks fire

[burnt panther]

I don’t think this game would need a new game plus

[sterile sage]

Otherwise, there's nothing I can do but increase the difficulty

[hard thistle]

Only rpgs do that

Tda could have master levels

[burnt panther]

Yeah sounds better then having to play the game multiple times for new game plus to get hard

[delicate grotto]

Hoping for Slayer Gates, or something similar, to return. Loved those optional challenges.

[burnt panther]

They probably will since the levels are big

[mossy geyser]

might want to reword that

[gilded lake]

emu otori pfp.....

[feral vault]

is samur the gay ass angel? lol

[burnt panther]

Goodness how am I supposed to read this shit

[hard thistle]

God I hope so. Hopefully more than what eternal had

Would be dope if it also came with a (proper) horde mode

Since they won't be occupied with maintaining multiplayer and whatnot I'm hoping there's a good chance

[vagrant path]

You fool! now everyone knows you're a dumbass!

[young matrix]

Ik the ultra nightmare reward is definitely just going to be the gold slayer again…

But im wondering what the UN reward will be for the DLC

[burnt panther]

At least he will be more dripped out

[plain iron]

Tf you mean gay

[sonic sluice]

Really really hope the "worlds from the slayer's past" is Doom 64 or his old earth. Or at least the game starting in 64, that would be so fucking cool

[delicate grotto]

That would be sick. Maybe we can finally see how the sentinels discovered him

[young matrix]

If Eternal has a song called “Meathook” then i hope TDA has a song thats called “Chainshield” or something among those lines

[hard thistle]

That song being called meathook makes no sense to me

[silent surge]

i guess i never really thought about that, even though it’s my favorite track

[young matrix]

Yea you don’t even get the super shotgun until you hit cultist base, even then… your not gonna hear Meathook again until Taras Nabad

[plain iron]

if he's fighting and hes been blessed its long after doom 64

[burnt panther]

Is the armour he is wearing still a version of the pretor suit?

[plain iron]

I'd assume so

[burnt panther]

If so I’m suprised how old it is

[plain iron]

Oh it's old asf

And apparently made by a demon

[burnt panther]

I see why he was able to innovate it in doom eternal from doom 16

[plain iron]

He probably ripped parts from each

Something something argent dispersers inside the suit

[fading kelp]

Your pfp is rad

Hers isn't.... oh man did I start something

[neon perch]

Wonder if no shield runs will be possible.

Or if there will be a way to disable the shield at the player's choice.

[burnt panther]

Depends if it’s a mastery game like doom eternal it might be really hard or downright impossible

[fading kelp]

You want that or just asking?

Cause I want the shield to stay like the super shotgun with hook in eternal

I know that the shield will be an essential so idk why you would want to disable it but good question nonetheless

[remote thunder]

not being able to parry sounds rough

[delicate grotto]

Oh right, The Wretch. Forgot about him lol

[inner wigeon]

Dude imagine the difficulty slider in eternal

Eternal running at 200% speed would give me a headache

[rose flint]

Hello everyone

[grave cave]

i hope they release the OST before the game tbh!!

[hollow finch]

is this game set in the uk

[scenic lichen]

The base game becomes buff totem stats, then what happens to buffed enemies?

[cyan lotus]

That would probably be the least of the worries, increased speed affecting the player would be mine

needing to do everything twice as fast to achieve the same results

[mossy geyser]

Welcome

[mossy geyser]

Would be cool

[mossy geyser]

Not likely

[stray hatch]

Fistfull of doom

[past loom]

So I was wondering something

You know how they said we'd be playing the slayers testaments and the codexes of the slayers time with the argenta people? And how one of the levels is literally one of the codexes stating the first time hell attacked argent d'nur?

You think this'll mean we will near the end of the game get to play when the priests betray the sentinels and have them stranded in hell with only us the slayer surviving and just going on another rampage?

If so that'd be awesome

[hard thistle]

The civil war comes before that and it literally lasts for years. And it doesnt seem like the civil war will be present during the dark ages base campaign

Most lilely in a dlc

[past loom]

That's fair

[hard thistle]

The game might end with the slayer and sentinels discovering the maykrs secret

The base campaign

[past loom]

One thing I thought of when they said new villains is how in the codexes, its stated that hell has had a few dark lords which each have their own eras, so maybe the new villain may be a previous dark lord? Just my speculation. Could be wrong and if so still excited for the game

[hard thistle]

Samuel does mention in eternal about a dark lord that the khan maykr partnered with

This machinery was not made without Hell’s knowledge. A deal was struck with the Dark Lord-in return for access to more worlds for Hell to devour, the Makyrs siphoned energy from the damned. It is an unholy union and cannot stand any longer.

Maybe ahzrak is the dark lord hes referring to

[past loom]

It'd be interesting

[hard thistle]

Maybe

[past loom]

Imagine one of the dark lords is just an imp

[forest steeple]

It definitely is a dark lord, it's pretty much confirmed in TDA game description in which he's literally called the demons' leader

[past loom]

I do like how the various demons look so different as well as new demons being added

[north burrow]

Definitely hyped for the dark ages. at least they brought the face on the bottom back

[past loom]

Really wanted to play a doom game where we're just fighting in a war with the sentinels against hell ever since TAG part 2

[north burrow]

Hell yeah dude

the iron flain fucking rocks

flail*

[past loom]

Wish we also got that battle axe the marauder used as a playable weapon in single player
But it'd probably just play the same as the crucible

[north burrow]

Don’t judge me but ima switch player. Until doom the dark ages comes out on switch 2, I’m probably gonna watch a potential markiplier play through

[past loom]

I don't judge i play on ps4

[north burrow]

The gameplay kinda reminds me of warhammer boltgun

[past loom]

Bless the modders who add enemies from 2016 and eternal into classic doom

[north burrow]

Hot topic: I like how they reused the doom eternal zombies in the dark ages trailer

And also—PHAT MAKYR

[past loom]

Bros been eating good

He reminds me of the Duke from re8

[sonic turret]

Does anyone have any Dark Ages lore theories yet? I know it's early days yet, but what's going on in yall's head canon right now?

[north burrow]

Also people are mad because apparently doom the dark ages character is getting a girl boss character since there’s….a woman. that’s it.

[past loom]

Bruh

[north burrow]

typo

My brother in christ—Olivia pierce

[past loom]

Imagine it's a revamped version of crash lmao

[hard thistle]

Two part dlc, first part covers the civil war. And second, the doomslayers time in hell before getting trapped

Im calling it

[north burrow]

Wait, so the second dlc is after 64?

[sonic turret]

You mean between 2016 and Eternal?

Or when he was put in the sarcophagus?

[past loom]

Listen as cool as fighting titans in Atlans are

If that is a 2nd part for dlc, i wanna see slayer fight the titan from 2016 with just either his regular weapons or even my man's bare fists

[north burrow]

wait hold on

[hard thistle]

The time he spent in hell before getting trapped in ssrcophagus, yes before 2016

[north burrow]

Woah woah woah woah. Wasn’t the titan in the trailer?

The armored tiran

titan

[past loom]

That's the dreadnought from eternal

I mean the titan from 2016

[sonic turret]

I think Hugo mentioned that we'd be taken up to that point didn't he?

[north burrow]

The dreadnaught is before this

[past loom]

They just called the one in 2016 the titan

[north burrow]

And plus they said it will follow the slayer’s testaments

[hard thistle]

I dont remember him saying that, but i imagine the dark ages will since its implied the game will end with him getting trapped in sarcophagus

[past loom]

And they said it's gonna be playing the slayers testaments, and it has the part where he fights the titan that rose from the abyss

[north burrow]

But the dreadnaught got no armor

[past loom]

Could've been destroyed in the fight

[hard thistle]

The slayers testaments also talk about the slayer seeking vengeance against the "dark lords who had wronged him"

[north burrow]

I could’ve sworn they said that the titan we see is like the champion of hell, as well as the 2016 titan

[sonic turret]

https://tenor.com/view/dumber-work-out-stare-men-look-gif-7893628

[past loom]

Couldn't be cause that one the slayer fought while still in hell

[north burrow]

argent d’nur is in hell

In 2016

[past loom]

Yeah but that armored one is shown attacking before that

Also I'm pretty sure not all of argent d'nur is in hell cause we literally go to the planet in eternal

[hard thistle]

The armored titan cpuld be just a random titan since we see the slayer kicking one into a pit in a different level using the mech

[past loom]

But yeah I don't think the armored titan is the champion from 2016

[north burrow]

However, near somewhere in the end of the trailer—the doomguy is jumping onto a rising titan so—

[past loom]

There are multiple random titans tho

And like rake said I don't think the base game will end with how the slayer was trapped in the sarcophagus

[hard thistle]

I believe the champion titan fight takes place shortly before the slayer getting trapped in tbhe sarcophagus. And i dont think the base game ends that way

[past loom]

You think for that fight we'll have an atlan? We don't see evidence of a destroyed one in 2016

Then again I don't think they were planning on atlans during 2016

[hard thistle]

Hugo said we kill it with our bare hands so i dont thjnk there will be mechs

[past loom]

That'll be awesome to see

Either slayer takes too many berserk packs

Or we do what Kratos did to kill ares

Also isn't it stated in lore that some demons actually began to worship the slayer?

[raw goblet]

80€ pepestare~1

[plain iron]

It's worse here 💀 $100 aud for standard

[raw goblet]

I love doom, clearly, but 80 euros a game is a complete waste of money.

for 50 euros you get cp77 with the DLC which is better written, much more replayable than doom

I don't understand

[past loom]

How much is 80 euros in usd?

[raw goblet]

83,73

[past loom]

Damn

83 dollars is crazy

[sonic turret]

Not much difference tbh.

It's £69.99 here in the UK.

But it's only money. 🤷

[grave cave]

wwhaaat i see it as $120 standed in AUS

[sonic turret]

I'd love for DA to start where 64 left off maybe even recreating that last battle against the Mother demon, or perhaps even introducing a third sister to the Mother Demon and Resurrector.

[plain iron]

Oh fuck u might be right actually

It's been like 2 days since I've checked

[grave cave]

yea it was 100 now they changed it to 120

[ionic rock]

Wait. WHAT?!

[grave cave]

each day i always look at it bcus best fuckn game, then i realised the price has changed

dosent bother me bcus looking at collectors edition witch is $400 😔

[plain iron]

Welcome to Australia.

[ionic rock]

Okay, looking at steam, the premium is still $100…still, kind of a massive ask for a single player doom campaign. Even if it did live up to the hype, I still don’t understand why it’s $10 higher than doom eternal on launch.

[plain iron]

Its a new AAA game, you can't expect much else

Take a look at space marine 2

[grave cave]

i fuckn love doom so that 12 inch of slayer is worth it

[ionic rock]

Phrasing.

[plain iron]

Thats what the intern said-

[ionic rock]

BRO.

[plain iron]

LOOK AT ME AND SAY HE WOULDNT BUY DOOMGUY FIGS

[tribal lagoon]

Oh yeah

Thinking about buying that premium edition fr

[ionic rock]

That was not where my mind was at.

[tribal lagoon]

The figure looks sick as hell

[plain iron]

He's the type of guy to know what the mlp jar is yknow

[plain iron]

Both ways work 💀

[tribal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-emoji-emoji-tooth-tooth-emoji-happy-to-sad-happy-to-sad-emoji-gif-15583437630749702489

[ionic rock]

.-. Help.

[grave cave]

400 is worth it!!!

[plain iron]

YEAH

I bought it bcs Haha giggles

#merch-showcase message

[grave cave]

400 is temp BUT THAT STATUE IS cough cough

[plain iron]

Giggles

[grave cave]

Eternal

[plain iron]

I love doom

[grave cave]

worth it!!

[plain iron]

It's chronic

[grave cave]

yes!!!

[plain iron]

It's all I think of, even when my sister got admitted to the mental ward

don't be like me

[grave cave]

i woke up with a hang over but i didnt give a fuk all i wanted is to see doomguy again

[plain iron]

Also ima do a maykr biology doc

[slender sky]

Lets be real are you buying the collector's edition?

[plain iron]

I am.

[slender sky]

Damn

[plain iron]

I have NO MONEY

[slender sky]

I would buy it just that

[grave cave]

i am if its not out of stock

[slender sky]

I have NO room for the figure

Is bigger than my carnage one pop

[plain iron]

Nor do I but I'll make room

[tribal lagoon]

I’m seriously considering it. I’m getting my paycheck soon and I’m really considering doing it but I might just end up settling for the pre order instead

[plain iron]

I gotta go downtown on may 13th to pick it up

[slender sky]

Im getting it my dad used to play doom when he was 15 and he will get it for me whenever it gets on sale which it will

[plain iron]

Might actually get the statue that day tbh

[slender sky]

Im getting the premium edition

I NEED that skin

[plain iron]

I'm gettin everything

[grave cave]

i cant help it but 24/7 i talk and think DOOM

[plain iron]

HERE COMES MY BABYYYY

[grave cave]

im like GIR at this point
singing the doom song

[plain iron]

Also shout out to žydrūnas savickas he's hella cool (he's actually just doomguy irl and he's a great explanation on why I believe the slayer has a higher body fat percentage than folk assume)

[slender sky]

Y'all think doom will be on sale?

[grave cave]

ill buy it full price if its on sale

[slender sky]

I mean im getting the pre order anyways

I missed eternal pre order so i gotta get this one

[grave cave]

ive seen the dev video like over 50 times at this point!!

[languid granite]

im using this anytime im talking about figures now ty

[grave cave]

lmao yw

[placid saffron]

No, this will be the first game ever where they straight up refuse to ever let it go on sale

[slender sky]

Trust

It has to go on sale

I hope the music is at least good

[placid saffron]

Likely, can't imagine it'll be straight up bad

Doubt it'll be metal hellsinger level but few things are

[proud vine]

From what we have heard it sounds fire

It might not be true for the actual game but i doubt it

[grave cave]

i want to headbang to the ost nowww!!

[slender sky]

Mick gordon didn't make the ost right?

[ionic rock]

I don’t doubt it’ll be good…but idk if my Gordon/hulshult/levy bias is showing, but is anyone else thinking the riffs feel a bit…generic? Like they stand out in the gameplay we’ve seen in the footage, but they don’t necessarily have as much of an ear worm quality to them as something like BFG Division, TOTTFIY, Damnation, hellwalker, super gore nest, metal hell, or even blood swamps and immora.

[ionic rock]

It’s Finishing Move this time.

[proud vine]

He did not

[slender sky]

What

[proud vine]

Idk i just like it for now

[slender sky]

I mean im playing for the shield

That looks INSANE

[proud vine]

Im playing for the shield and the music fr

Also the mech

[ionic rock]

A duo who have scored for borderlands 3, Halo wars 2, crackdown 3…and Microsoft flight simulator…

[slender sky]

We all know the dragon and Atlan are not going to be like maingame stuff they are in the game for like a couple Missions at best

[slender sky]

Microsoft flight simulator has music???

[ionic rock]

I was as shocked as you to see that on the Wikipedia article.

[proud vine]

Yes of course, however they are fire 🔥

[slender sky]

The dragon is what the eternal dlc needed and didn't get

[slender sky]

Wtf is crackdown 3😭

[proud vine]

I wonder why they didn't use this design for the dragon in eternal

[slender sky]

Yes

I wonder why

[ionic rock]

I don’t even know. I only heard of it from a dunkey video on the fall of Xbox. .-.

[crisp crown]

no multiplyer, but i dont mind that never played it anyway in eternal what i want is horde mode will they add a proper horde mode

[slender sky]

Fall of doom? You cant be serious

[slender sky]

It says more DLC to come which mean muilt could come

[ionic rock]

No, fall of Xbox. That’s what it’s called.

[crisp crown]

yeah i dont mind multiplayer will there be horde mode though

[slender sky]

Idk muilt doesn't FIT doom

Unless is like pvp slayer vs slayer but is the slayer from different games

[crisp crown]

well campaign-only game = no purchase!

[slender sky]

So you can pick eternal slayer which has the DLC stuff or like the 2016

I wonder if we get a doom that expends on doom 3

Because that game was bad

And needs some justice

[crisp crown]

this will be a flop fr

[winter idol]

wow, didnt know you could see into the future

guess all those other campaign only games like god of war were flops to, huh?

[plucky plinth]

Literally the hundreds of campaign only games that have survived for years:

[eternal basin]

Wich demon do you guys want in dark ages

[modest comet]

More focus on the Arch Vile

[sonic turret]

There'll be a lot of demons.

[burnt panther]

A failed third installment of my favorite series 🥺

[balmy viper]

What do y'all think about the new soundtrack

[sonic turret]

I kind of miss the Summoner from 2016 though, I like its sleek, swift movement and would loved to have seen a buffed, possessed, empower version, even spectral, since that plus its speed would make it more challenging to track.

[sonic turret]

Has it been released yet?

[balmy viper]

Yeah

[sonic turret]

I haven't heard it, only what was showcased on the footage.

[balmy viper]

Search DOOM TDA ost

[plucky plinth]

It has yet to be released lol

[sonic turret]

I was gonna say, I'm not seeing anything.

[balmy viper]

Check yt I don't think it's on Spotify yet

[plucky plinth]

I am lol

[sonic turret]

Anything interesting going on in the Slayer's Club since the reveals?

[plucky plinth]

Look, the last place it’s usually uploaded is YouTube

[sonic turret]

I've not logged in since before Eternal dropped.

[plucky plinth]

Also, studios like id Software don’t upload their OSTs until after the release date if at all

[zealous pine]

Yes.

[plucky plinth]

On top of that, no major forum for Doom is even talking about it

But yeah, it’s not out

The best you have are the covers people have made of the initial track showcased prior to Direct

[sharp silo]

Dude the new soundtrack is going to be awesome dude

[dire prism]

For sure.

[hot rivet]

Why so expensive (79.99)?

[burnt panther]

Inflation

[grave cave]

Dude Ur Lucky, here in aus the game is $120

Standard edition to

[slender night]

I think you guys have it cheaper then

120 AUD is 71.86 euro

[slow nexus]

Uhmmm guys where is the cacodemon

[sand sparrow]

We got another Doom sequel (*prequel) before Silksong

[sand sparrow]

In my nose Mr. White

[regal geyser]

Exchange rates don’t fully work like that, the average salary is the thing you should take into account when calculating if something is cheaper for others

[slender night]

That's true

[slow nexus]

Bro where is my baby, the cacodemon

[simple mist]

Terrible disgrace to a cult classic (crackdown 1 is amazing and 2 is okay)

2s issue was it being very repetitive

[tender thorn]

why put denuvo

and a high price

no one gonna buy this fr

except if a miracle happens

[zenith briar]

Well probably get GTA 6 before Silksong

[graceful tulip]

Is anyone else worried that doom dark ages might be cutscene heavy?

[zenith briar]

I don’t really care. I feel like Halo 2 is the best comp for this game.

Halo 2 was a very cinematic FPS that pulled it off very well.

[brave valve]

Will the game be on ps+?

[graceful tulip]

That’s not really a fair comparison, halo 2 is a very story heavy game, there’s like 30 halo books, doom isn’t exactly known for its compelling lore

[slender night]

Likely, just not on launch

[boreal geyser]

No. You need to buy it on PS

[brave valve]

I mean my pal said he got it pre-ordered from xbox pass (no ide aif hes a reliable source lmfao)

[boreal geyser]

Yeah, because its on game pass. You can already preload it, but you will need to re-download the day one patch or even more.

[brave valve]

So then wouldn't it most likely be on ps too?

[slender night]

Game Pass is Microsoft property, and so is DOOM, putting it on PS+ immediately would be feeding the competitor

[boreal geyser]

No. PS+ works different. You didnt get any big titles day one or in the near feature. Maybe 2 years later, if we are lucky or the game is dogshit and the sales numbers are bad :D

[unborn sequoia]

I really hope this new doom game supports core i5 12th Gen cuz I feel like it's too high specs needed

[boreal geyser]

Yeah, but the specs are always higher then needed. I think it will be possible to play on wqhd on high settings with your cpu. Depends on the gpu. If you want FullHD, then you can dont need to worry.

[unborn sequoia]

I have 3060 ti

Rest is set on recommended (not minimum settings)

[boreal geyser]

FullHD should work. Maybe WQHD but not on high settings. And dont forget Denuvo. Basically 15-20% less FPS

[stuck sparrow]

I have one like that and people told me it should work

[unborn sequoia]

thats good👀 . i see u also a nier fan like i am

[stuck sparrow]

Im matching with my best friend, shes the human version of emil lol

[unborn sequoia]

xD interesting match

[grim cloud]

im convince the dark lord/priest we see is relatedf to the gargoyle ramhorned headed demon we see as a texture. Am i the only one?

you know, the thing that spills out blood from its month in marbled textured levels

[dire prism]

gargoyle ramhorned headed demon?

[graceful tulip]

How does the 2 day early access work for the collectors edition?

[bold gale]

is ps PlayStation or something else

[agile ore]

The switch texture used heavily in doom 2

[dire prism]

Oh, gotcha.

[sonic turret]

Second cousin?

[agile ore]

Posted it in screenshots

[grim cloud]

Yes that

[boreal geyser]

You will get the CE min. 1-2 days before early acces (best way) or you get it on ea-release day (not so good)😄

[graceful lion]

yeah, usually if you preorder, most or all games have an option to let you pre download the game

before its playable yet

[arctic pagoda]

Hi

[valid sapphire]

Hello

[arctic pagoda]

You can download it early but can't play until release

I think

[boreal geyser]

Not true. Xbox and PS will get disks and you will be able to play, but not the day one patch version😄

[arctic pagoda]

I think it's kinda funny

It takes 2-3 business days to ship, so In a way you can't play it 1-2 days early

[teal seal]

Since Doom the dark ages has Slayer skins what’s the chance of a battle-pass of sorts?

[bold gale]

this game honestly looks insane

it looks more open

[teal seal]

They’ve scrapped multiplayer to give us the best campaign they’ve ever made

[bold gale]

was the multiplayer even good to begin with though?

I mean tbh

[teal seal]

Yes it was fun to mess around but no for the rewards

[bold gale]

since the main trophies won’t be multiplayer

that’s nice cause I HATE games with multiplayer trophies especially on console

[boreal geyser]

Maybe Mircos as packs but no pass

[teal seal]

This man must hate Garden Warfare 2

[graceful tulip]

It’s like at this point what’s the point of ordering a physical copy if I’m gonna get a code any way

[bold gale]

Hell nah I love that game series

I have the physical disc

[valid sapphire]

The box

[bold gale]

I’ve spent way to many hours on it

[teal seal]

12 achievements are now not unlockable and multiplayer

[bold gale]

why

[teal seal]

EA

[bold gale]

damn so anyways

I saw a big mech what the hell is that about

[teal seal]

It’s going to play a huge part in the game because it’s getting skins

Same with the Dragon

[bold gale]

this is going to be epic

for fun I should play all doom games in order (minus doom 3)

[teal seal]

Reminder : Doom 3 inspired the horrible Doom movie

[bold gale]

of course

[valid sapphire]

Movie(s)

2005 and annihilation (2019)

[bold gale]

I hope there is more guns though cause it seems like there will be more melee then guns

[teal seal]

The 2005 was inspired by Doom 3 annihilation was its own thing

[bold gale]

and does this game take place after the doom eternal dlcs or no?

or does it take place before doom eternal

[valid sapphire]

Before 2016

It's a prequel

[bold gale]

interesting

WAIT SO NO CRUCIBLE?

[south pilot]

?

doom, doom 2, doom tnt, doom plutonia experiment, doom 64, doom the dark ages, doom 2016, doom eternal, doom tag 1 and 2

[bold gale]

what?

[south pilot]

order

timeline

[bold gale]

pretty sure there was an old mobile game or something

[south pilot]

crucible will probably be in it

[bold gale]

ok

wait so why the hell couldn’t we have a mech in eternal

[slender night]

Their canon status is unknown, same for DOOM 3

[south pilot]

have u seen the state of the mech in doom eternal

[bold gale]

no

[south pilot]

in the fort of doom

[bold gale]

I haven’t played eternal for awhile

[compact mason]

The mech in the Fortress of Doom was being repaired, last I remember it doesn't have legs and only has one functional arm

Can't remember if it even had the sword or not.

[faint marten]

I’m kinda sad the old glory kill system isn’t returning

I really liked it

[graceful lion]

well, i can understand why they would do that

gives them time to focus on other stuff

shockingly enough, spending time on animations from every angle and ensuring they all work takes a whole bunch of time and testing

this one kinda keeps you more immersed, since you can just glorykill and are already beelining towards another guy

[graceful lion]

it was in seriously bad shape,thats why

[south pilot]

i am not being funny

but some of the past trailers doom have been so misleading

especially 2016 with the glory kill system shown as just always active

[graceful lion]

youre telling me the gameplay/elements of the game change between the trailer and the actual release??

damn i never knew that

[south pilot]

what are you on abt

[graceful lion]

yes, gameplay changes when you compare the trailers to the actual gameplay

[south pilot]

no

[graceful lion]

the trailers of 2016 and eternal looked slower than actual gameplay

[cyan mist]

do yall know if theres gonna be a horde mode in this one?

[south pilot]

right whatever i am not explaining

[graceful lion]

probably

[south pilot]

you are missing my point

[cyan mist]

i love horde

[analog arrow]

This game is going to be so dope

I hope

[graceful lion]

oh i get it now

but i think sometimes a bug happens that just makes the enemy die, whether it be chainsaw or gk, might be doing it too fast

[analog arrow]

2016 Doom is still my favorite of the reboot series

It was just so fresh and perfectly paced. Arcade mode was a blast. Idtech engine delivered like always. Even the Switch port of that game was fantastic and fun to play

But I spent most of my time 1440p at 144fps on my PC

Probably my favorite Vulkan title

[half umbra]

We just know that there is going to be a story mode for now, I'm sure later on we will probably get new/old modes

[grim cloud]

Classic Doom Cover demons need to be in TDA. That is all

Red hellknight like demons, green blood, done. Easy

i added them to my megawad, they nasty fiends

[cyan mist]

Yeah trailer looks good i hope they bring horde

[cyan lotus]

In the capacity it was in eternal? I’d hope not, but a real horde mode, like kill waves until you die, that’d be great, especially since the segway between this and 2016 is him spending eons in hell, which would fit perfectly

[half umbra]

I’m sure we’ll get something like that. I’m not trying to let the hype delude me but I do think the game will stand on its own very well

[grim cloud]

the focus is on singleplayer, so that rules out some major MP mode. Horde maybe, Invasions please god yes but doubtful

[plucky plinth]

For me it was honestly one of my main reasons why I dislike the newer games as much as I do. I just don’t like seeing the same animation 200 million times every single arena.

[hard thistle]

Uh oh guys
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1063931206472847431/1333514371342663820/Screenshot_20250127_110922_RVX.jpg?ex=67992b89&is=6797da09&hm=f72d2aa1f2f2c78807edc099ff73433bbe60a4e0d90b1432fc14a72c62653d82&

[cyan lotus]

No target on a context specific action I’m done for

[faint marten]

Well that’s the thing, they made so many unique ones

[plucky plinth]

Eh, not really

I basically just see the same 3 animations over and over again with zero variation

I very much welcome TDA’s new system

Eternal is the worst offender with repetitive animations

[mossy juniper]

[sonic sluice]

Especially with berserk

[plucky plinth]

Yeah

[sonic sluice]

I hope there's more variety with the melee finishers instead of just the regular swing animation

[fathom horizon]

that game is insanely based

[restive shale]

I just want it to be May the 15th tomorrow already😭

[half plaza]

there's definitely variety with what the slayer does, like he'll kick and punch and even use the shield

[fathom horizon]

what’s the problem?

[half plaza]

"no target"

but he still hit the parry so it's okay

[fathom horizon]

i don’t see the significance

[half plaza]

doom eternal had the awful "no target" chainsaw bug

[fathom horizon]

i see

[half plaza]

which is still a thing but less of a problem

[vapid lodge]

I keep day dreaming about a "What If" episode, like in a parallel universe when Mick Gordon would arrive on stage and Marty would announce that Mick is a full time employee, working on TDA...

MCU Multiverse stuff has broken me. Dont judge me, a man can dream

[delicate grotto]

As much as I like them, I’ve got to agree with you there. Also for some reason, Eternal’s demons are more durable when staggered than in 2016, pushing you to GK more often.

At least it feels that way to me, and I’ve played both multiple times over.

[half plaza]

the Slayer embedded the "Intimacy is Best" rune into the Eternal praetor suit

[hard thistle]

I wonder if for bigger demons you can actually dismember different body parts individually instead of sending them flying during glory kills

[half plaza]

i have some belief that they're underselling the glory kills because there was a shot in the trailer of the Slayer cutting a Hell Knight's head off with the shield and it didn't have cutscene aspect ratio

[hard thistle]

Maybe that only works with aerial glory kills

[half plaza]

maybe

i'm just curious as to why that happens

maybe it's a first person cutscene like the one at the end of Immora

[delicate grotto]

At the very least, there will be some brutal Boss kills when you finish them off. Looking forwards to what we’ll be fighting in that regard.

[half plaza]

i do see what you're saying

there's a lot of interesting stuff happening with the texture of the music itself but nothing really stuck in my head

the catchiest stuff so far has definitely been from the very first trailer

[delicate grotto]

That’s my guess as well

[half plaza]

we'll have to wait and see how it sounds in-game though

[delicate grotto]

Looking forwards to the soundtrack honestly. I don’t think they’re going to disappoint from what I’ve heard so far.

[half plaza]

no i'm sure it'll be good it's just that Mick Gordon and to an extent the DLC composers were pretty good at making earworm riffs that stuck in your head

And so far there hasn't been much in the way of like, a TOTTFIY-level song for The Dark Ages

[ionic rock]

Yeah, that's the catchiest of the tracks i heard, and even then it was pretty stock compared to mick, hulshult, and levy's work.

[half plaza]

Yeah...

I won't let myself get sore over it until it actually releases

[ionic rock]

I'm still hoping for something good from the two.

[eternal basin]

Who be the new music producer

[half plaza]

Finishing Move studio

[eternal basin]

Alr.

[half plaza]

They worked on Halo and Borderlands

Search up "Breaking The Covenant"

[grim cloud]

need to get a new PC for TDA, just dont know what to buy or wait. I will need the power to run idtech studio. my 3080ti isn't fast enough for trial and error

[half plaza]

your 3080 will be enough

[eternal basin]

I mean its good but mick gordon is still #1 for me in my opinion

[slender night]

I swear these components used to be god tier just a year ago

[grim cloud]

it may not be for modding

[half plaza]

naturally but we can't have him anymore

[slender night]

Mick did great with Wolfenstein

[eternal basin]

Sadly

[half plaza]

how so it's the recommended specs for 1440p

[grim cloud]

its a dev tool, it uses up a lot of power.

takes me 10 minutes to run and load every edit for troubleshooting. I need it faster

and yes i drop that resolution to help that - this helps with workflow speed

internet says get dual cores ... ugh ... business expense it is

[radiant quiver]

My brother in Christ the 3080 Ti is above the recommend specs for the game. For reference I have just a 3080 which is the exact recommended card. You’re gonna play the game fine.

[radiant quiver]

Well the 3080 is coming up on 5 years, it’s still a damn great card, if a bit skimpy on VRAM.

[grim cloud]

let me clarifity, i need it for idstudio

[radiant quiver]

Cards are very rarely still God tier a whole five years later.

That’s kind of just the way PC gaming is. We live in an unprecedented age of PC gaming where old tech coming up on a decade can still play new AAA games reasonably well just as long as you make the right sacrifices and have the right expectations. And even ignoring the AAA market, we live in a golden age of indies that can run on actual toasters so you’re never out of games to play even on old ass hardware

[brazen heron]

TDA having mandatory RT is kinda nonsense.2016 still looks nearly just as good without RT.

[slender night]

There's no real good gaming industry it seems

Well, they're all good, just no BEST one

PC is amazing but expensive, mobile is... mobile, and for console every new console can render your old library obsolete due to no BC

[brazen heron]

Also 16 GB of VRAM to play on high settings,wtf?You could play at Ultra without issues with just 8 GB of VRAM in Eternal!

[radiant quiver]

Difference between 2016 and Eternal and TDA is the prior two games targeted the PS4 and Xbox One as a base, both decade plus old consoles that weren’t considered strong when they came out. TDA is now targeting the PS5 and Xbox Series consoles as a base, that’s the difference in specs.

[brazen heron]

The thing is we reached pretty much the peak of graphival fidelity.RT is the last major graphical revolution.HDR was the 8th gen's thing.What else is left?

[slender night]

The VR industry can be expanded on

Body suits that reflect in-game stuff would be huge

[radiant quiver]

I will die on this hill that I think the specs for TDA are MORE than reasonable. A 2060, a six year old budget card playing the game at 60fps is extremely unprecedented for a cutting edge AAA game

[brazen heron]

The thing is 2016 looks nearly just as good,despite being 9 years older.TDA is not much of an improvement.TDA takes so much power because of RT.

[hard thistle]

I suspect part of these larger spec requirements are also because the game's levels are going to be a lot bigger with more to access than the other two games.

The levels they showed off looked ambitious as fuck.

[graceful lion]

^^^^

the levels are larger, and there is alot more shit happening around you

[radiant quiver]

And with the ray tracing, I for one disagree that this doesn’t look that much better than the prior Doom games, I think the old Doom games look really great even today; but the RTGI just sends it over the top. But even if it didn’t, ray tracing is going to be an essential tool for game development going forward because ray tracing drastically cuts down on the man hours artists spend meticulously baking every single light. If we want the current crisis of game development of games taking way too long and costing too much money to be solved, ray tracing is going to be not the sole factor, but a pretty big one in cutting these way down.

[brazen heron]

Nonsense.The graphical jumps between 2016 and TDA is very small.Though,the larger levels and more amount of targets might be the cause.

[ebon shale]

How tf do you even measure that other than your subjective opinion?

[graceful lion]

we are forgetting its id software, i wont be surprised if they made the specs even less costly later on

because what we are seeing is not the final build of the game, some things will be different

[radiant quiver]

No, it’s not nonsense. Developers want to utilize the newest technologies to not only make games look better, but also greatly streamline development. Ray tracing does this.

[graceful lion]

and even then, the game will probably also get support for older hardware if possible

[hard thistle]

It's not just about graphical jumps, it's about what you use as the base. Like Vandelay was saying, 2016-Eternal were targeting older consoles as the bare minimum of what should be able to run them, so PCs had more lax requirements.
It isn't realistic for them to keep targeting the PS4 when it comes to this game's performance, it is now an older generation and not the standard for the gaming industry. So they're targeting the PS5 now, which means the spec requirements will be larger.

[graceful lion]

this is pretty fair

[hard thistle]

These developers almost always use current consoles as the baseline when deciding what the game should be able to run perfectly on.

[graceful lion]

which makes the most sense

and these things are pretty cheap if you buy the hardware used

[ebon shale]

Absolutely agree, its a step thats necessary and will hurt the consumer short term, but in the long run everyone will benefit

[graceful lion]

like you can find a 3700/x for like 80-100 usd

[slender night]

In like 40 years we'll have TDA on a lawnmower

[graceful lion]

4090 powered lawnmower

[brazen heron]

Also,can we talk about how each new modern doom game gets major downgrade in map design gameplay wise?2016 had decent interesting design ,some more open areas,some labyrinthy areas,some linear,some non linear.Eternal is much more linear,however it made sense considering the pacing and the focus of the gameplay.

[slender night]

My favorite

[cyan lotus]

I’ll be alive in 40 years so I’ll verify whether this is true or not

[slender night]

Thanks Tammie

[hard thistle]

I prefer Eternal's map design.

[graceful lion]

and they can also make weaker hardware supported if they could, in later updates

[graceful lion]

yeah, requires you to think more around your surroundings ifi had to be honest

[brazen heron]

TDA looks like it's made of mostly massively open and similar looking areas.

[hard thistle]

The Dark Ages looks like it's the fucking Super Mario 64 of Doom. Lots of huge environments, and the whole "sandbox" thing they mentioned.

It looks like it's taking a lot of cues from the original games - I would expect lots of nonlinear levels, key-hunting, etc... just bigger.

[radiant quiver]

I can’t see that happening tbh, for as big as these levels are going to be. The game is designed around the RTGI, going back in and developing a raster pipeline for lighting and baking EVERY SINGLE LIGHT in the level for every level just seems like a big waste of money and man power.

[graceful lion]

fair

[radiant quiver]

Though Alan Wake 2 was updated for the 10 series cards which don’t have mesh shaders, which Alan Wake 2 was very heavily reliant on. So anything is possible I guess

[graceful lion]

but things can change, not much, but they can

we might get different specs updates in the future

id software are really good at optimization from what i know

[radiant quiver]

And also keep in mind with specs, since Alan Wake 2 was brought up, devs overestimate their specs all the time.

[hard thistle]

I myself am running on a 12th gen i7 core and an RTX 4070. From my reading of the specs I should be able to run TDA just fine.

[brazen heron]

I hope I don't sound like a boomer,but I prefer the map design of the classic DOOM games.I am not a fan of wide expansive arena shooter style.(Except for Eternal,but it's a exception)

[graceful lion]

epsecially id^^

[graceful lion]

well, TDA seems like a throwback to the classic doom games in some way

[radiant quiver]

12th gen i7 and a 3080 myself which the 4070 should be roughly equivalent to minus the better RT architecture and DLSS 3 features.

[hard thistle]

I gotta say I appreciate the PFP. Makes it feel like Frank Costanza is lecturing me on the importance of ray-tracing in modern videogames.

[radiant quiver]

RAY TRACING FOR THE REST OF US

[hard thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/frank-costanza-seinfeld-what-are-you-doing-why-you-dont-know-what-youre-doing-gif-17370357

[vapid lodge]

I fear the number of players is gonna be less than Eternal because of the specs

[brazen heron]

TDA either is going to be straight up mid or an amazing game on the same level of DE.It's not going to be somewhere inbetween.
I loved DE,except for the stupid platforming and the bosses.

[graceful lion]

well that is obvious

[hard thistle]

I don't see TDA being mid, but I'm unsure if I'll like it as much as Eternal. Because I really liked Eternal.

[graceful lion]

they will have to really deliver if they wanna top eternal

[vapid lodge]

yeah but that would upset me a little... Was hoping TDA would get more players

[graceful lion]

well, the game looks amazing, and of course the specs will be really high compared to the last game, significant changes for hardware have been made

[vapid lodge]

In an interview Marty and Hugo were talking about Battlemode and said "Lead, not follow".... looks like battlemode failed :/

hope that wont be the case for TDA

[hard thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1313873565145235506/1333533514292789279/image.png?ex=67993d5d&is=6797ebdd&hm=7350d8a0b668e902e31f27def932d9b33d0cf39d8720f928c2f03a6a19f3fcf0&
Right now this is how Doom is looking for me. Hoping TDA can be another S title.

[hard thistle]

They aren't doing multiplayer for TDA.

[brazen heron]

TDA is also going to be the DOOM64 of the modern triolgy pretty much.2016 is the og,Eternal is the sequel that is somewhat controversial but loved AND hated by a lot of hardcore fans and expands the franchise a lot,and TDA is a unique revision like 64.

[lyric leaf]

I don't mind them scrapping multiplayer tbh so they can focus more on singleplayer

[vapid lodge]

I was talking about the new mechanics, not mp

[graceful lion]

multiplayer is a serious pain in the ass to add

[lyric leaf]

why is doom 2 so low blud

[graceful lion]

its not as simple as a plug n play thing, syncing things and making sure everything works is really hard

[hard thistle]

Shitty map design and a way worse soundtrack than Doom 1993.

[graceful lion]

some developers describe it as making the game again

[lyric leaf]

I agree with the soundtrack but there's still some good levels

[brazen heron]

How the fuck OG Doom and TAG1 is at the same tier as base Eternal?

[hard thistle]

I hope they keep develop the modding stuff for Eternal more. I'd like it to get out of the Beta branch.

[spark elm]

Man, super stoked.

[radiant quiver]

8 out of 10 of the most common GPUs on Steam hardware surveys are RT capable, so while yes, there’s going to be a certain section of players still on 10/16 series cards or even older who are just going to have to either upgrade at some point or not play the game at all, the number of RT capable cards that people own will rise as it becomes more and more common. Just like every other high end graphics technology before RT

[hard thistle]

I don't get what you're objecting to. Which do you think should be lower?

[spark elm]

I have preinstalled on my Series X with game pass

[hard thistle]

Some. Most of Doom 1993's levels are good. Doom II has, like, 4 good levels, a few more decent levels, and the rest range from mediocre to terrible.

[brazen heron]

I like OG Doom,but it definitely worse than Plutonia.Also
Eternal pretty much is the lone king.
Plutonia is A,OG DOOM is B,TAG1 is also B.

[hard thistle]

The OG Doom is a masterpiece and I loved The Ancient Gods. That tierlist is ranking TAG1 and TAG2 as one product.

[lyric leaf]

fair enough, I respect plutonia at S ranking, that shit is fire

[brazen heron]

OG DOOM starts great,but ends ina disappointing way.

[slender night]

DOOM 3 in A tier

https://tenor.com/view/raiden-gif-26385726

[hard thistle]

I don't think Eternal is the "lone king." There are plenty of things the other installments do better than Eternal, like 2016's storytelling and bosses, Plutonia's really great level design. It's just the one that happens to be at the top for me.

[brazen heron]

Also DOOM64?B tier?Really?It is absolutely an A!

[hard thistle]

Doom 1993 is a classic and a masterpiece. I could play it forever and not get bored.

64 gets a B because of the cut enemies from Doom II.

The lack of enemies like Archviles and Revenants is felt and disappointing.

[hard thistle]

Doom 3 fucking rocks.

[brazen heron]

I respect OG DOOM,but it's limited monster variety is a big problem.

[plucky plinth]

I’m very much fine with the variety personally

[brazen heron]

Also DOOM3 is also at A tier.IMO a better OG DOOM reimagination than DOOM2016,though 2016 is the superior game overall.

[hard thistle]

Doom 1993's limited variety is an issue but the great level design makes up for it.
I'd love to play a version of Doom 1993 that incorporates the Doom II monsters, one that isn't stuck on Doom PSX.

[hard thistle]

Doom 3 is the better story than Doom 2016, and overall IMO a slightly more impressive product. 2016 is more fun, but I have more respect for Doom 3. It doesn't help that 2016's story and cast is blatantly ripping off Doom 3 every step of the way.

[slender night]

Where would you put the movies in this tier list? @hard thistle

[hard thistle]

Eternal gets points for moving past that and building a unique and unapologetically dork-ass universe that fits Doom perfectly and swings for far beyond the same story over and over.

[hard thistle]

The Rock movie gets C, behind Doom II. Annihilation gets D, behind Evilution.

[brazen heron]

Also DOOM II at C tier? Come on,it's not bad.Yes,it's a disappointing sequel,that barely feels like a sequel but rather a jumbled mess of levels turned into a game.But still,it's a B tier.

[slender night]

I'd give them S and D respectively personally

[brazen heron]

There are people who think Evilution is the best classic doom game....somehow.

[hard thistle]

But I'm also biased against Doom movies because I think the games just don't really fit the film format.

[plucky plinth]

Eh, people have opinions

[lyric leaf]

tnt evilution is ok

the secret levels were great

[lavish kindle]

the first 10ish maps are excellent and then it falls off a cliff

[delicate sequoia]

Legacy of rust should be S

That’s like DOOM 3 if it was in 1995

[brazen heron]

People who say DOOM3 is not a true doom game should not be taken seriously.Have they actually played the OG DOOM?OG DOOM was limited by it's time.It was not a arena shooter or a run and gun game,it was just genuinely inmersive.DOOM3 is a reimagination of OG DOOM with way better tech.

[hard thistle]

I really loved it, especially the soundtrack and new enemies, but the difficulty was inconsistent and a few levels were a bit too long for me. I also didn't like that the plasma gun and BFG had been removed - I wish they had incorporated the ID24 standard more briskly so that we could get all the weapons here. Still really, really good, though. I'd replay it.

[slender night]

People who say DOOM 3 is not a true DOOM game usually get that opinion from YouTubers

[simple mist]

Doom3 was leaning more towards a horror vibe

[brazen heron]

Yes,I am a DOOM3 fan.I will defend it hard,no matter what some "FANS" say.

[delicate sequoia]

I understand the inconsistency and the replacements adding to the fire that there’s a extreme lack of amo

I enjoyed every doom game

[hard thistle]

It was just harkening back to their intent with the original Doom.

[delicate sequoia]

I played all

Oh imagine if we get calamity blade in the dark ages

Like hidden weapon like unmaykr

[brazen heron]

Some old "fans" played too much hardcore plutonia style wads,and they forgot the OG experience.
Also,I find DOOM64's puzzles unnecessary.DOOM64 could have been an even better game,but the weird puzzles and absurd amount of going back and forth to do progress hurts the pacing.

[delicate sequoia]

Doom 64 is my least favorite

[lavish kindle]

Doom 3 blows. Rudimentary enemy AI, awful sounding weapons (except the plasma rifle), the journal entry lore thing has aged horribly, and most of the horror is cheap jump scares. The travesty it calls a "shotgun" is evidence enouhg for the black sheep reputation the game has.
Ressurection of Evil is cool though.

[delicate sequoia]

The weapon that lets you grab proyectiles was a really cool addition

[hard thistle]

The journal entry shit rocks though. The shotgun point also is such a non-issue.

[brazen heron]

Overall,every doom game has a big problem.Plutonia's unbalanced difficulty,DE's platforming and puzzles,2016 being too short and too easy,OG's lack of variety,2's weird non-linear design and puzzles.

[hard thistle]

The game's shotgun is balanced around you using it at close range so that the assault rifle remains a viable mid-range combat tool. If they made the shotgun work the same as it did in the classic games you'd have stayed using that one weapon for 70% of the game.

Doom 3 has among the best weapon balancing in the series. Almost every weapon has its place in your arsenal, all of them have a purpose and I find myself using all of them pretty often when I return to Doom 3.

[lavish kindle]

there's a difference between "close range" and "you need to have LoS on an imp's nose hair."

[brazen heron]

64's constant backtracking and also bad puzzles and lack of enemy variety.And then there is TNT....

DOOM3's shotgun makes sense considering the focus of the game.

[hard thistle]

That's still very close range. With the game having so many environments where you don't have much room to maneuver, having essentially a melee option is welcome. That's the shotgun.

[brazen heron]

3's shotgun is not supposed to be your default base weapon like in every other DOOM game.It's pretty much a SSG on steroids.

[hard thistle]

Shotgun - melee option.
Assault rifle - mid-range option for lower tier enemies.
Chaingun - mid-range option for higher tier enemies.
Plasma rifle - mid-long range option, cancels out Revenants and Lost Souls well.
Rocket launcher - long-range option for higher tier enemies, and crowds.
Doom 3's arsenal is meant for you to routinely switch between these weapons rather than rely on one.

[shut whale]

R the concept arts of dark ages coming out early

[flat pulsar]

All dooms are good we’ve yet to gat a crappy mainline game

[sonic sluice]

Just played 64 fully for the first time and had a blast with it. HOWEVER I ran it in gzdoom with CE lololol. I'd say it's probably my favorite hell maps out of the older games

[grim cloud]

doom 64, the REAL doom 2. You can throw a stone at me now

[vapid lodge]

we can already play TDA, they modded the weapons in classic doom

[brazen heron]

DOOM64 is the real DOOM sequel.Based.

[grim cloud]

"DOOM 2 Hell on Earth is just DLC" lol come get me

"Final Doom isn't canon" that one i agree

[thorn pebble]

anyone realized the Combat shotgun is similar to a p90, just with the mag underneath?

[arctic pagoda]

Apparently doom the dark ages is woke due checks my notes customized difficulty sliders

Hm

[simple mist]

Bruh woke has lost all of its meaning

[arctic pagoda]

It has

I don't tell people I woke up, I just tell them I'm unslept now

[meager robin]

The real doom 2 is doom eternal

[tulip canyon]

https://youtu.be/sBOMxyuyQeQ?si=l2DCPbLXkJr4Hzbv

[paper quest]

f woke

[arctic pagoda]

Fwoke?

[paper quest]

fukem

[fading kelp]

F woke

[tropic raft]

How the hell is that woke 🤣

[arctic pagoda]

I dunno, that's what it is now

[radiant quiver]

The current state of gaming discourse will never not bewilder me

[tropic raft]

People these days man. Like thats not what woke means bro.

Gotta be rage bait or a stupid claim lmao

[lavish quiver]

Do we know if dark ages will run on steam deck yet? I keep seeing mixed opinions online for that

[tropic raft]

No idea actually

I mean i play on ps5 so what do I know?

[radiant quiver]

No absolute confirmations, but we can speculate that it will based off Indiana Jones. Another idTech game targeting the current gen consoles exclusively, requires RT for the game to be played at all and has pretty much identical specs. Indiana Jones can be played at the lowest settings, at 720p and 30fps on a Steam Deck. So playable, but certainly not ideal.

I’m assuming Doom will be in the same boat

[lavish quiver]

That’s what I was assuming too, I mean like they got eternal running half decent on the switch I’d be surprised if it couldn’t run on the steam deck

[brazen heron]

How the fuck DOOM out of all things is considered woke lol?

Though diff sliders...were unexpected to say the least.

[hard thistle]

[tropic raft]

Its not lol. People use that word on anything these days. The diff sliders tho...imo don't matter that much because i'll put drag those sliders all the to the max. I ain't afraid of a challange, even if i lose countless times i'll still keep going.

[hard thistle]

Tbh controversial opinion but I feel like Doom 2016 the campaign was personally better than Doom eternal

[plucky plinth]

I felt like the game as a whole was better

[tropic raft]

Personally I need to actually play the games to make an opinion. So far i've started doom 2016 and enjoying it so far. Story is very mysterious.

[hard thistle]

Oh 👍

[tropic raft]

Im looking forward to the story. Read the codexes and so far its....interesting

Its also my first doom

[steep gust]

I can’t wait to beat the shit out of giant demons with a mech

[sand sparrow]

https://youtu.be/vg41YbkhBcs?si=KMGfRr5cDBMQq9CG

[tropic raft]

Me too

[obsidian shard]

People saying it makes the game easier

THEY FORGOT IT CAN ALSO MAKE IT HARDER

[charred hatch]

Only makes it easier if you want it to

[obsidian shard]

Exactly it's also your decision, and the base difficulties are there

Also new HUD is awesome

In the Exploration Segment we see the more developed Hud

[sand sparrow]

The player too

[obsidian shard]

Well I've been hard for like 4 days since the Trailer (I should see a doctor)

[grim cloud]

in regards to difficulty, they really need to add in a monster count. I want the hardest settings set with a lower monster count on my first play. Monster count also means seeing harder monsters earilier or later. yes this is the way

Light, Normal, Master Level (cultist base ML), Super Master (like taras nabad ML nuts)

I also wonder what the cast count will be. Eternal had about 32 non boss enemies, 2016 had close to 20

i hope we can double that, gimme more

[brazen heron]

Difficulties in modern doom games suck hard imo

UV should be default,the others don't add much value

UN is also a pain in the ass

[mystic yacht]

Cant wait for Doom the dark ages, it will be fire without a doubt

[brazen heron]

Like you just take more damage,what is the point?

[languid granite]

uv is like medium difficulty to me imo

[obsidian shard]

Hence the Sliders, makes it to what you want/need

[upper beacon]

its supposed to be a pain in the ass

[obsidian shard]

Precisely

[grim cloud]

I agree, i found that borning diff setting.

like if a imp is going to hit harder because of Diff, make it more realistic like changing the imp fireball to deeper red color and/or giving it a unique skin. that is how i would do it

[obsidian shard]

Slower enemies+ More enemy damage = bigger punishment on Mistakes

Mix and match sliders

[grim cloud]

changing skins on a demon takes like an hour, another few hours to make it look good, more to make it professional

well to make a quick skin i can do it in 3 minutes

[grave cave]

$400 collectors edition is gonna be so fucking worth it!!

[fading kelp]

What

No

It can't be

[grim cloud]

if you live in brazil it might be

[grave cave]

Down here in aus it's 400 sadly

[grim cloud]

they got big taxes on games and elec

1 dollar = 60 aus cents. so i beleive it

[grave cave]

Worth it

[candid trench]

want for birthday: more disk space and collectors edition Dark Ages

[hearty stirrup]

SOO WORTH IT

[sterile canopy]

meu mano, 500 reias for the premium edition? smh

[plain iron]

It's just gonna get worse post release so it's best to buy it now

Glaring at eternal's collectors edition rn

[shut whale]

Do u guys like shield saw having the slayer symbol or do u prefer it has a demonic skull

[fading kelp]

The slayer all the way like his helmet with the little mark

[grave cave]

Slayers symbol

[delicate stirrup]

The Dark Ages is looking tight. Looks like they're finally adding usable vehicles to the series.

[obsidian shard]

300 CAD here

So worth it imo

[hard thistle]

Is it too much to ask for dragon enemies hugo martin

[obsidian shard]

Guess you will have to wait and see 😁

[honest copper]

who else is getting the game day 1

[spare panther]

Anyone know if collectors edition is limited in anyway? I cant find anything on it but i want to be sure as i cant get it for about another week

[honest copper]

what do you mean

[spare panther]

ive heard collectors editions for games are usually limited edition, the bethesda store for tdas collectors edition doesnt say it is but i want to be sure jsut in case

[honest copper]

I don't know what limited edition means

[spare panther]

like only a certain amount exist

[honest copper]

oh

Yes

they stopped making the red dead redemption 2 collector edition that's why it cost so much now

[spare panther]

hm okay

im still trying to get my money up so hopefully i can get collectors edition by the end of the week

[honest copper]

I'm not that much of a doom fanatic so I'll just be buying the game

[spare panther]

thats fair i would too but i cant pass up a 12 inch slayer statue