the-dark-ages

[oak temple]

I think all 3 games will play different and I love that tbh

[odd shore]

Yea

[brave sequoia]

I miss the grittiness of 2016 so I'm glad we're getting that again

[odd shore]

Im so happy the game is coming out in my School Break

[wheat sigil]

If someone finds the game too slow, the modifiers won't necessarily change that
I have played Eternal on 2x AI speed (and even higher) and it doesn't really make the game faster

[oak temple]

The visual aesthetic of TDA low key looks like it could be the best of the 3 but I hope the game plays good

[brave sequoia]

it's coming out right at the tail end of my thesis 😭😭 I won't be able to play for like three weeks

[wheat sigil]

I just hope the gameplay will allow for the same skill expression and have as high skill ceiling as Eternal, and not go into a 2016 direction of very simplistic combat

[odd shore]

Unless you ignore your responsabilities

[brave sequoia]

it might, it'll just be different I think

[oak temple]

I think they'll be more too the combat than 2016

[rocky harbor]

I can't imagine how Dark Ages could be considered as a project without passion.

It's completely different. They could do Eternal v2.0 - this would be project without passion.

Instead they created something very different. They changed everything. They changed visuals, scale.

[brave sequoia]

I cannot unfortunately

[oak temple]

Eternal not sure yet

[odd shore]

Btw

[brave sequoia]

passion wasn't the right word to use, I meant that the game (from what we've seen) lacks feel in my opinion

[odd shore]

Do yall know works of the people who are making this soundtrack?

[wheat sigil]

No

[brave sequoia]

the only thing that actually felt incredibly good was that double barreled shotgun

[odd shore]

Finishing move?

[rocky harbor]

I think Dark Ages is case when we can't imagine how game feels after trailer/gameplay. It's hard to sell these gameplay mechanics on video. But it looks very polished and well designed.

[tranquil moss]

it comes out a month after my school's intended finishing date but it comes out a day after the actual end date

[rich loom]

Hello everyone, greetings from Spain. I don’t know if there’s anyone from support, community management, or marketing here, but I’ve read that this Doom game won’t be dubbed in Castilian Spanish, the official language of Spain, EUROPE. This will be a significant blow to us and Spanish speakers. The game is being released in LATIN SPANISH, which feels like a disservice to our beautiful language—without intending to offend our fellow Latin American companions. We would like to know why this is happening or if it will eventually be dubbed in Castilian Spanish, Spanish from Spain.

[inland beacon]

Why is this emote called khan bakr. Did he bake cookies then eat all of them

[slender onyx]

so with that fat makyr dude in the showcase it's pretty much confirmed we'll probably see the khan maykr again right

[sharp moat]

my only concern is the lack of actual Glory Kill animations

this is 100% gonna be very controversial when we get our hands on the game and learn it’s gonna be the basic 2 input melee combo of Shield Bash/Kick/Punch/Mace

These are melee combos in a video game not executions like 2016 and Eternal

[candid oracle]

No dash mechanic? No problem!

[delicate grotto]

This game will probably be the most divisive among the 3 modern Doom games. I think a lot more people will love it than not, but I won’t be surprised if a lot of Eternal/2016 fans dislike it.
Personally, I’m a little unsure about the melee system in general. It looks fun, it looks cool, but I don’t see much depth to it. Again, not much to go off of. I’ll also miss the brutality of those GK animations, but I like that they’re pushing for more combat fluidity.

[sharp moat]

but that imo loses a lot of charm for modern doom

[hollow sandal]

Idk why I lol'd at this

[inland beacon]

My main worry is that it will be too different from previous entries making it so that there will be no room for them to make a new quake or hexen/heretic

[delicate grotto]

Yeah that feature has become sort of a staple for modern Doom. I can understand the disappointment from a lot of fans. I would have preferred them to stay as well, but I’m optimistic for the new system they’re introducing.

[delicate grotto]

Yeah they have been taking a lot of elements from their other IPs for modern Doom lol

[sharp moat]

Again like im very concerned they wanna add new melee weapons to justify executions. Play Halo and that game already combines Melee/Shooting/Equipment and Movement all together imo

[latent fractal]

thoughts on the new glory kill system? i like the idea but i wish the animations were more aggressive

[wheat sigil]

I love it, it'll be really nice to skip those boring animations

Unless this is just the same exact thing but looks different

[latent fractal]

eternals animations went kinda hard imo ngl

[inland beacon]

BORING ANIMATION

[sharp moat]

from what im seeing. He kicks, Punches, Shield Bashes, Flail, and Mace. It does the same animation no matter what around the body

Doom guy isn’t grabbing a demons arm and smacking it across someone’s face

[delicate grotto]

Agreed. Although there is an animation of a HK getting beheaded. Could be something left over from early development, or it could give us insight on melee executions.
I like the dynamic approach ID is going for with TDA, but it would be awesome if there were a couple “special” kill animations if you do something cool with those weapons. Like the thing I described above.

[wheat sigil]

I'm hoping it isn't an animation, and instead some cool melee combat system

[sharp moat]

or getting in with a Mancubi and shoving their heart down their mouth

[latent fractal]

they did say verbatim tho that "glory killing in different parts will do different things" so thats weird

[sharp moat]

from what the gameplay shows they are talking more about Body decapitation. Parts of demons bodies will be effected by what part of the damage they take which was in Eternal u just couldnt rag doll them

[sharp moat]

But idk why they didnt do both

[vivid berry]

Was there a slide in the overview?

[delicate grotto]

That’s my gripe with it.
The idea sounds great. A dynamic GK system where you make your own execution.
But if it’s just the same 3-4 animations, with the demon getting gibbed, that’s a little boring imo. Not a deal breaker but definitely a downgrade from regular GKs.

[sharp moat]

It be a lot of fun to just have both standard melee animations AND animations where doom guy pulls something brutal

[high dome]

The main flaw for me is the game being 80 euros
I expected a lower price because Eternal is only 40

[sharp moat]

Play Space Marine 2, it’s awesome and practically Third person Glory Killing

[vivid berry]

Eternal was 60 on release

[delicate grotto]

That’s what I’m hoping for.
If you kill a demon in the right spot, with a melee weapon, you’ll get a cool animation.

[sharp moat]

its 70, all triple A games will be the 70 standard

[vivid berry]

Weird i got it for 60 preorder

[delicate grotto]

I got it for 60 as well.

[cyan lotus]

“Context specific action” is a funny part of the trailer when you’re reminded of blood punch

[sharp moat]

arnt pre-orders different in price vs launch?

[inland beacon]

Im worried that with the new system for kills that they won’t be as complex and brutal

[wheat sigil]

Eternal wasn't 70 on release, remember, Eternal released back in 2020

[flat oak]

Has anyone else noticed the demons cut in half by the saw when it is thrown disappear for a little bit before spawning back t-posed then splitting in half?

[delicate grotto]

That seems to be the main criticism floating around the game atm. I understand the concern tbf.

[wheat sigil]

How were GKs complex before?😭 they were literally the most mind numbing thing of Eternal, you just sit and watch an animation unfold where you didn't do anything

[sharp moat]

says 69.99 on steam

[inland beacon]

Thats Just called slight rendering

[vivid berry]

Ps4 on a retail site were usually always 60 in my country

[high dome]

At the moment?

[sharp moat]

u can check rn

[high dome]

It's 40 for me

[wheat sigil]

You're talking about deluxe edition

[high dome]

10 with the offer

[inland beacon]

The slayer would do things like rip out a demons heart and feed it to them. I would be fine if you said you weren’t personally a fan of the animations but calling them bad just disregards the effort put into making them

[high dome]

That makes sense

[sharp moat]

the premium is 100 bucks

[high dome]

The Deluxe Edition is 69.99 euros for me

[wheat sigil]

They completely disregard the combat in Eternal and just gives the player something to watch, that doesn't even fit into the power fantasy

[inland beacon]

That’s your opinion. Some people like them and some dont. Your never forced to glory kill

[vivid berry]

The glory kills are exactly perfect for eternal. Giving you a few secobds to gather surroundings

[slender night]

You literally are though, how do you clear the boss fights otherwise?

[vivid berry]

And otherwise you could just finish them normally

[inland beacon]

With a couple exceptions

[cyan lotus]

Which would be a valid point if it wasn’t an essential part of restacking, also I think calling it not complex was more or less talking about the mechanic itself, which is just pressing melee when an enemies low health, the animations themselves are fine, no jab was made about them to my knowledge

[slender night]

Never vs a couple exceptions is a big jump

[slender onyx]

we did get a glory kill like in 2016 and eternal in the showcase tho
that one doomguy did when he decapitated a demon with the shieldsaw

[inland beacon]

If you don’t want to stop playing for two godamm seconds to regain health then play on easy mode

[delicate grotto]

It added charm and brutality to the game. I can understand not liking them though.
It made the combat more cinematic, but they did get old after a while. I think it’s a good thing to try something new. We already had 2 games with that system. I just hope this new melee combat doesn’t fall flat.

[sharp moat]

could be a cinematic

[inland beacon]

I can understand not liking them but just saying they are bad ignores opinions that aren’t yours

[sharp moat]

then play ultrakill

[delicate grotto]

It was likely for show, yes.
Best case scenario is that it’s a little bit of both worlds.

[vivid berry]

Glory kills also pushes the move forward combat

[delicate grotto]

I’m just glad ID took this game in a new direction instead of trying to make it faster than Eternal.

[sharp moat]

im just saying if Glory kills ruin the combat why did we have 2 games of it and didnt cut it immediately. it clearly made the gameplay unique

and u'd think a game slowin the combat down wouldnt mind having these animated kills

[delicate grotto]

I don’t really see how they could have topped Eternal’s movement. Sure there were things to improve but not enough to warrant an entire game, imo.

[cyan lotus]

Me personally I would not go as far to call actually stopping what I’m doing, albeit very abruptly “pushing forward”

[delicate grotto]

The animations felt fluid, they kept momentum and speed in how they were executed. It never felt jarring to me, but that’s just me.

[wheat sigil]

I have, I prefer Eternal

[inland beacon]

If you’re not going to listen to other people’s opinions then don’t share yours.

[wheat sigil]

The animations themself aren't bad, but I'm critiquing glory kills as a concept

[slender night]

Constructive criticism is evil!

[vivid berry]

You are required to get into their faces to heal. Learn combos for fast staggers/gk state and get a natural feel for when they get into gk state

[cyan lotus]

Both sides are exchanging opinions are they not?

[slender night]

Because obviously the people going "play something else" are in the good side of things here, neither party is wrong or right

[cyan lotus]

yes, for sure, I will come back to you when I have learned to do that

[wheat sigil]

I am listening, but opinions are subject to scrutiny

[inland beacon]

I would be fine with it if you just said that glory kills being bad is just your preference instead of stating it as if its a fact

[vivid berry]

I meant it like it lets you learn that naturally not in an insulting way

[wheat sigil]

Adding a "in my opinion" after every sentence is just unnecessary, if I am actively critiquing something I won't be saying "in my opinion" after everything, because it is, clearly, my opinion

[vivid berry]

And being required to get close is what pushes the move forward/around combat which i said earlier

[cyan lotus]

you’re fine I’m taking the piss with what I said

[inland beacon]

Well then just word it like “i dislike glory kills” instead of saying “glory kills are bad”

[slender night]

Those two mean the same thing don't they

[inland beacon]

Nope

[slender night]

Can't really like them while saying they're bad or dislike them while saying they're good, one equals the other

[arctic pagoda]

No

[delicate grotto]

I’m fine with the absence of GKs so long as it’s not the same kick or hit animation for everything.

[inland beacon]

One is worded as if its a fact and one states it as if its an opinion

[arctic pagoda]

Dislike means you don't like them, bad could mean that the glory kills are just in poor taste

[slender night]

Well then maybe let's hear them out instead of going "your opinion is wrong because you didn't clarify it's subjective"

[cyan lotus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1077069514505728152/1332435309513932940/IMG_6753.png?ex=67953e95&is=6793ed15&hm=3eefde32285aab98d39bddea363788969c62364c439fbfc5f762586bd6f4ac80&

[vivid berry]

I mean i don't like fortnite but i can recognise the effort they put into the game makes it good

[arctic pagoda]

I don't know how to feel about the shield

[wheat sigil]

Please tell me where I said that

You're making stuff up at this point

[inland beacon]

Im not saying that I have said many times that i get your opinion . But you keep arguing

[slender night]

That's fair, my message makes no sense now lol, had to put in the slightest elbow grease into my brain to think it through

[wheat sigil]

Lol, that's usually what happens during discourse

Both sides present their arguments and rebuttals

[delicate grotto]

I like it, but it definitely seems overpowered- and not in a rewarding way. Unsure if upgrading it changes what it can and can’t do, but if it can do all of what was shown at once, that’s a little concerning imo. Don’t get me wrong, it looks awesome, but I just hope it isn’t an instant win button.

[inland beacon]

When i was talking about my like of glory kills here you actively fought against its despite the fact that i wasnt talking to you. While you may have never actually said that they where bad verbatim you did imply it by responding negatively to any mention of glory kills

Mabye let other people enjoy them and ill be fine

[cyan lotus]

Not everybody who opposes something is insulting it

Seems like you’re getting onto him just for having his own opinion, and not hearing it out, which is something you, or at least somebody siding with you, claimed he was doing

[arctic pagoda]

I'm sure there'll be demons impervious or deflective of the shield

[inland beacon]

I never said that. You can dislike glory kills, thats your opinion. But you dont have to respond to every mention of them with negativity. You can have your own opinion without stating it to others who disagree

[cyan lotus]

I mean people talk here, discussions happen, I personally don’t want people to blindly agree with everything I say but we might hold different viewpoints

[inland beacon]

Im fine with that. But be respectful about it

[cyan lotus]

I personally have been, and from what I saw, he was too

[inland beacon]

Ok then. Id like to agree to disagree and just move on

[inland beacon]

I can’t imagine there wouldn’t be

[lime pilot]

does anybody know when the collectors bundle is gonna be send out?

[inland beacon]

I think its supposed to be soon to the actual release date

[lime pilot]

like right before the release date?

[inland beacon]

Not sure

kinda looks like trump

[half umbra]

I felt indifferent to it at first, but the more I rewatched clips the more I liked the idea

[inland beacon]

My only worry about the new stuff being introduced is that it’s going to be to different from a traditional doom game meaning that it will get rid of potential new quake or heretic/hexen games

[young matrix]

I honestly cant wait to beat dark ages once, on nightmare (because i like to punish myself by going to the hardest difficulties possible, thats what i did with 2016 and eternal, and I’ll do the same here) then replay the game again thanks to the new modifier’s slider, and crank all of the stuff up all the way to make it even HARDER as possible

[cyan lotus]

I hope the TDA has enough glitches to make it good to speedrun

[inland beacon]

Cranking them all up wouldn’t make it the hardest. Some benefit the slayer the more turned up they are.

[young matrix]

Oh no ik, thats why for those specific ones, i’ll crank them down

[inland beacon]

I like games that are glitchy enough to be funny if you want them to be but not too glitchy to intrude on normal gameplay

[young matrix]

Like parry window

Alll the way down to 200MS

I have a feeling Ultra nightmare (if it is there) isn’t gonna allow modification adjustments however

[inland beacon]

Masohcism at its finest

[charred raptor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1141514717723111424/1332441338989252609/Im_come_here_boi.gif

[charred raptor]

gif made by me, take it brothers Slayers

[cyan lotus]

I just thought about the fact the game has a slider that lets you slow the game physics, and if this is like 2016 and eternal, devious things will happen with the frame dependent physics

[half umbra]

I hope so, I do enjoy playing the doom games on the hardest possible mode

[inland beacon]

Oh shit I didn’t think about that. The sliders will be fun for unique speedrun types

[plain iron]

Shout out to the little spikes on the slayer's pauldrons, I'm calling them all mason

[cyan lotus]

Although that makes me think TDA speedrunning will probably have a shit ton of menuing

[young matrix]

What if the shield is gonna be something like the new meathook where it’s frame dependent and you can do crazy stuff with it

Like “okay im gonna bash this fodder over here” only to do something that just sends you flying across the map

[cyan lotus]

maybe, but I only recall it going directly forward, which in eternal, the meathook is unaffected by frames in that regard

They’re not 1:1 things and everything is a lot of speculation so I could always get proven wrong

[inland beacon]

I feel like the shield will only be able to grapple you to specific points kinda like how tag’s meathook points worked

[strong sage]

Still no GameStop listing for the Collector’s Edition, damn….

[cyan lotus]

TAG2’s meathook point is wack, it locks your hook to 120FPS physics and forces a hook jump at the end

[charred raptor]

go on Bethesda International Gear

[inland beacon]

Their neat in concept but jank in execution

[arctic pagoda]

Heu

[inland beacon]

Kinda like the entirety of the ancient gods

[cyan lotus]

It’s fine for how it’s implemented, at least you can break the hook before the hook jump happens

[wheat sigil]

Honestly, I think tag1 is underrated

[cyan lotus]

and with how sparsely it’s implimented it wouldn’t have led to any cool tricks either

[strong sage]

I am waiting for GameStop to hopefully list it, because they do not charge until it ships.

[inland beacon]

The ancient gods dlc’s are good. their just glitchy as fuck

[burnt panther]

I the bosses are gonna be peak this time around

I hope

[cyan lotus]

TAG and glitches 😛

[young matrix]

It’s gonna be good i bet

I have a feeling that there might be another gladiator like boss mid game

[void sierra]

We get to see what the doom hunters were like before they were half machine

[wheat sigil]

I think it's mostly the tag2 enemies that are extra broken

[young matrix]

Stone imps feel the most broken to me tbh
It’s not because of them being “busted annoying” it’s more so the fact that sometimes my full auto staggers them, sometimes it doesn’t, sometimes it one shots up close, sometimes it also… doesn’t do that

[plain iron]

Shout out to the one blood maykr in the holt that gives me a brain aneurysm bcs they never do the right attack

[wheat sigil]

That's probably an issue with full auto, its damage is pretty weird

[plain iron]

Love the designs in TAG, hate how it's a cesspool of rng and glitches

[young matrix]

I don’t think any enemy in eternal is busted, other than dread knights, because if your game is at like 200 frames and a dread knights catches you off guard…
Hoo boy

[plucky haven]

🖐️ 🖐️

absoulte cinema

[young matrix]

All my armor, gone, reduce to argent

[plain iron]

I dont like high framerate, hurts my head

[young matrix]

I like high framerates
Pleases my eyes and decreases input latency

Usually like to cap it at 200 though when given the chance

[plain iron]

Too smooth, wigs my ass out

I like it around 60-80

[cyan lotus]

It’s a close range weapon, has spread, one full auto shot at point blank range should stagger and it should only take 2 to kill at best

[young matrix]

Thing is im up close and personal when fighting at all times during eternal, so idk what gives

[cyan lotus]

Small hitbox, bullets don’t hit, or maybe aim punch

[wheat sigil]

But here's a quick run down of why I consider tag2 enemies broken

Armored barons: lack decision making in many positions relative to the player, breaks when buffed, weak point doesn't function correctly and some AI from the regular baron transfers over making it weird

Screecher: lacks proper pathing often, gets stuck in geo and enemies and will self destruct for no reason

Cursed prowlers: (these dudes mostly suck an insane amount, but they're also pretty broken) they will despawn post-curse and break their own pathing tons, even more than they fix it, making them very broken

[lime slate]

So why are the hardware requirements so insane for this game qwq

[plucky plinth]

Someone named “AAA Dev” touched the game

[lime slate]

Most people will not be able to play this game

No one wants to use raytracing. Its a gimmick

[plucky plinth]

It does also speed up development, though

[meager spindle]

Nah why is this game gonna be $70 I swear by the end of this year I'm going to be broke with how many games are coming out

[sharp moat]

every game nowdays is 70

[proud bramble]

Just wait to buy some of them on discount then.

[sharp moat]

which would be a black friday year

[meager spindle]

True

[plain iron]

I like it

[near valley]

I don’t think u like performance drop tho

[plain iron]

I do. I don't like high framerates.

Plus I do have a whole ass ps5 slim for this shit

[near valley]

[plain iron]

I'm being fr

Don't like high framerates, hurts my head

[vast pebble]

Try a 720P monitor, 30 HZ.

[plucky plinth]

Some people purposely keep the framerates locked to 35 FPS in the older games btw

[arctic pagoda]

Now either I'm crazy, or ID confirmed free roam doom

[near valley]

Well, TDA is not that old tbh

[plucky plinth]

TDA isn’t even out yet lol

[near valley]

exactly

[plucky plinth]

I didn’t even mention TDA in that sentence, though?

So I don’t exactly get your point

[near valley]

Yes, but the guy I replied to did

[plucky plinth]

Fair enough

[cyan lotus]

Cap eternal to 28 for infinite dashes🔥🔥

[young matrix]

Im not even concerned about frame rates taking a hitch about this
Like do we not remember this is running on IDtech? An engine series that might as well be made by Merlin from King Arthur

Not to mention but Hugo came out after the direct and claimed that the idtech engine dark ages runs on is the “most powerful one yet”

and im gonna take his word on it considering every game that ran on idtech ran smooth like butter, at least in my experiences with the engine

[plain iron]

I mean, if it doesn't run well on my ps5 slim I'll upgrade to a pro

[arctic pagoda]

Some of those demons be looking thicc

[plucky plinth]

The Pro is a total fucking scam

[young matrix]

Nah, it’ll definitely run 60-120 on next gen systems

[plucky plinth]

Don’t even buy into it

[young matrix]

It is, and it’s so stupid too

[plucky plinth]

It has a maybe 1% performance increase

[young matrix]

Not to mention but apparently….
Sony’s gonna make a PS6

[plain iron]

It looks cool :[

[plucky plinth]

It has

• No disc drive
• No fucking performance boost
• Stupidly high price point

[plain iron]

But I am pissy abt lack of disk drive

[arctic pagoda]

The ps6 isn't even gonna be a console, it's just a Roku box with cloud saving

Bet you

[plucky plinth]

The 5 Pro isn’t even a console

So the 6 is gonna be the same

[arctic pagoda]

True, but less for like $899

[plain iron]

I got my ps5 at like $450 so I'm not complaining

[young matrix]

Ps6 boutta cost 1300$ and perform about the same as a PS5, might as well build something like a pc with a 9070/70XT which supposedly the prices for those cards is 499/599 respectively (again have to clarify AMD cards) with a 7700X, and you’ll get more bang for your buck there

[inner wigeon]

Top 10 lies ever

[young matrix]

Like hell im not even joking, but as soon as the PS5 Pro came out, with it’s price revealed and it’s supposed “performance”, i made a list thats around the same price as the pro, plus add on’s, and performs better than it… for about the same price

[lavish hull]

devs just killed new doom. there's no deflection nor particles in the trailer that the latest GTX can't support

yet they made it RTX only

[young matrix]

Some of the footage was pre alpha footage apparently

[lavish hull]

this is strange

Plus if it's alpha footage, why is the release so soon? why don't they show us the full game already?

[lime slate]

If the requirements stay like they are. Its not going to do well imo

[lavish hull]

fans gonna make a mod for gtx

iam sure

[cyan lotus]

It’s not RTX only, it’s just listing cards relative to what you’d need, I don’t recall them saying raytracings going to be forced, it’s not crazy for the system reqs to be a 6 year old card

and from what I know, the GTX 1080 ti, barring raytracing, does outclass the 2060, listed on the reqs

[lime slate]

It’s a major leap compared to what most games require

[arctic pagoda]

U rtx

[inner wigeon]

Are the requirements even confirmed or are we just saying stuff for the sake of it

[cyan lotus]

Confirmed yes

[craggy helm]

#announcements message

[young matrix]

Yea no the spec requirements don’t just list RTX cards, it also list amd cards, like get this, they suggest a 7900 XT (which is 669$ rn for me at least) for 4k ultra 60fps

[inner wigeon]

Mmm not that bad imo

[cyan lotus]

It’s not though, any other AAA game released within the past year will have spec reqs on par or maybe even less generous than this

[lime slate]

Nvme is required too

[young matrix]

Meh
Tbh everyone uses SSD’s and HDD’s for photo’s, files, and video’s now days, of course im gonna put stuff like games on my Nvme

[hot lava]

Specs can’t be stuck on 2013 rigs forever

[cyan lotus]

2013 is the year the ps4 came out iirc, and people still expect games to be for that gen as well, like be for real😭

[plucky plinth]

Yeah

[lavish hull]

yes

[lime slate]

No. Elden ring recommended is a 1070 Gtx, cyber punk recommended is 2060 super RDR 2 1060.

Im not saying it has to be stuck there forever but this is a huge jump forward even compared to recent games

[cyan lotus]

cyberpunk isn’t THAT recent, and Elden ring was designed with last gen ports in mind

[plucky plinth]

Yeah, 2077 came out in 2020

[cyan lotus]

Both of them actually designed with last gen in mind but yea

of course cyberpunk on ps4 was like having an electric heater run but idk

[lavish hull]

but i got GTX 1060 6GB RAM, and yet I got 83-165 fps(of course not with the highest graphics, but still)

[lime slate]

Theres so many games that are recent or aren’t even out yet that aren’t even touching these requirements

[lavish hull]

(iam talking about cyberpunk 2077)

[hot lava]

PS4/Xbone release also

Can’t be stuck in 2013 as I said

[lime slate]

Dude the 20 series cards arent from 12 years ago

Thats the minimum

The card and cpu you need are within 5 years at the most

[cyan lotus]

Yeah but if they’re designing for this gens consoles they’re going to use stuff on par with those consoles if they have the chance, they’re not doing a middle ground because there’s no need to

[lime slate]

I just built my new pc pretty recently but seeing that jumps kind of scares me

[cyan lotus]

There’s always going to be jumps

It’s part of owning technology, the fact that it’s going to be outdated relatively quickly

[lime slate]

Also why wont nvidia match the amd equivalent cards with vram

[normal jewel]

Wait is a ray tracing capable GPU required?

I'm still rocking a 1660 Super.

[plain iron]

Probably not

Folk are just spewing shit

[plucky plinth]

Well, the recorded minimum is a 2060 Super

[vestal dagger]

No, that is what ID software said lol

it's not speculation it's explicitly stated

[plain iron]

That's probably the recommended requirements, they wouldn't lock it to a singular type of GPU that's just not good business

[vestal dagger]

It's specifically under minimum requirements as well. A card with support for hardware accelerated RT instructions with at least 8GB of VRAM

[normal jewel]

I don't care about ray tracing. Hate it's being forced

[vestal dagger]

It is what it is I suppose

[arctic pagoda]

Ray paving

[tulip canyon]

https://youtu.be/ukgAcNMyaUE?si=TW5MxOTL6tNrSTEb

[raven pilot]

I love you I'm rereading this to make sure I haven't missed anything, but you I love in particular

(also because I remember you chattin with me when I was UN'ing eternal)

[simple lintel]

I saw that in the collector's edition and some of the showcase art the slayer has the equipment launcher, while the gameplay didn't show it at all. Any idea if we're getting it?

[raven pilot]

Tbh the only thing I'm really worried about is that May 15 is kind of close

Not too much but not too far either y'kno

[sly lily]

Are we all ready for the dark ages when it comes out everyone

[vestal dagger]

Mind you I don't think the use of RT will be that intrusive on the low end. I'm assuming that they're targeting 1080p 60fps on the Series S, the GPU in which is roughly RDNA2, which is... not renowned for it's RT performance even on the higher end cards. It's likely a case that where they're using RT will be at a degree you could do it through software with some driver witchcraft but get rather meh performance from it. I've seen people running the new Indiana Jones game on a Vega 64 using some whacked out drivers on Linux, but it was sub 60fps at minimum settings.
This is to say I don't think performance will be a big deal as long as you do have something at least Turing (full SM) or RDNA2 based (because if not it probably won't launch by default).
That still leaves the argument of whether games should be built like this at all, which I don't think I could have an unbiased take on.

Vote with your wallets I suppose, if they've made the call too early it'll probably appear in their sales.

[arctic pagoda]

Bae tracing

[hardy solar]

Just preordered the Collector's Edition, can't wait for this amazing game 👌

[quick venture]

I really wanna get the steelbook for this game, but it looks like only the Collector's Edition has it?

[arctic pagoda]

Ye

[hardy solar]

This figure also looks fantastic, the new Slayer design sold it to me

It's the first time of my life I'm purchasing a game collector's edition, but for once I believe the content justifies the price

[quick venture]

It does look good, but idk if I have an extra $250 CAD lying around. Unfortunate and I'm glad for whoever can afford it

[idle gyro]

I just pre-ordered premium edition this is going to be hype

[arctic pagoda]

It's $214

[quick venture]

yikes, it's $293.29 CAD after conversions...

[arctic pagoda]

Where are you looking?

[quick venture]

it's $199.99 USD from the Bethesda site

[arctic pagoda]

Wait I'm dumb, been looking at USD

[floral mountain]

Bethesda can have my soul I will rawdog the case every night

[void sierra]

In definitely going to get premium, but I will get collectors edition if I can

[arctic pagoda]

How do I change currency on the store?

[hardy solar]

I understand, for long I didn't have enough money for this kind of purchase, if you're short on money then it isn't worth it. For example I would have loved to get the DOOM Eternal Slayer statue, but I just don't have that kind of money 😂

[neon perch]

Hugo dropping the phrase 'it's a Doom sandbox' pisses me off so much. If it's not a sandbox then don't call it that. It just creates uncertainty and a disinterest from people who think the game is open world when it isn't.

[hardy solar]

Well I don't really know what he means by "sandbox", but I guess it means more open areas, destructible objects, and more freedom in general

A "sandbox" game doesn't have to be an open world

[latent bronze]

How big do you think the campaign will be?

[hardy solar]

Probably not too many levels, but the levels themselves could be very big to explore

[arctic pagoda]

Still, $300 for all of that? That's pretty rad

[hardy solar]

If the levels are sandboxes with many ways of exploring it means bigger and more complicated levels, so I guess they made less levels but each level with more play time and more areas to explore

[arctic pagoda]

Sandbox in the sense that Metroidvanias or dark souls are sandboxy

Not like Minecraft or stuff

[neon perch]

Problem is people took that to mean the same as 'open world'.

[hardy solar]

For DOOM Eternal I only took the Deluxe Edition because I wasn't very interested in a big motorcycle helmet (not suitable for riding) on my shelf for more than $100. But this time I think $100 for a Slayer statue is very reasonable, considering the Premium Edition alone is around $110

[hardy solar]

When I heard "sandbox" I understood that it could be an open world, not that it will be an open world. The problem is people who don't know how games work and people that take their dreams for granted, obviously they will be disappointed if they don't know the difference between a sandbox and an open world

[sand osprey]

I WANNA BE ABLE TO BUILD A DIRT HOUSE!!!!! REEEE

[hardy solar]

And if they dislike the game just because it isn't multiplayer or open world, I would say they just didn't get what DOOM is about

Many oldschool players would hate the game if it was multiplayer or open world, so obviously you can't please everyone

[sand osprey]

Tbh I am getting a little bit confused, someone said it was confirmed NO multiplayer mode, but still we get skins? what are we gonna do with em skins? xD

[hardy solar]

Play the campaign with it, like in DOOM Eternal

[sand osprey]

tbh I did in eternal, and I did stop a couple of times to look at my reflection (Barbarian skin hehe)

[wheat sigil]

I just chose the skin with the best arms, because that's all you can see lol (outside reflections ofc)

[hardy solar]

That's it, outside of the cutscenes you just see the arms. I like the red arms Slayer lmao

[wheat sigil]

I recently just got some modded skin that's all light blue, pink and white, which makes for pretty good arms IMO

[hardy solar]

I was really disappointed the demons skins didn't apply to the campaign demons

[wheat sigil]

yeahh

[sand osprey]

THAT would be HILARIOUS!!!

[plucky plinth]

if they don't do that in TDA I'm rating the game a -200 out of 10

-50 for having Denuvo (... again, for the third fucking time)

[wheat sigil]

I aldready gave it a negative review on steam, microsoft store, epic games, youtube, twitter and facebook

[plucky plinth]

M1, you give anything but Eternal a bad review at this point

you're allowed to give a bad review for my spelling, though

because it's about as good as eating dogshit

[wheat sigil]

nuh uh, Beat Saber❤️

[plucky plinth]

damnit

[wheat sigil]

I actually play quite a lot of beat saber these days

[silent flicker]

Dang I may get premium versus collectors, I have steam wallet money that I won't be able to use if I get collectors through bethesda store - you pay there THEN get the steam code!

I got 78 bucks steam wallet so I'll effectively spend 25 versus 200

Unless there is a way to use my steam wallet money somehow, if I get collectors? Or I may saw screw it and just look for the keycard the dark ages statue at a later time on ebay

[quasi escarp]

Would doom TDA be on gamepass core? Doom eternal was on gamepass core after a while, so will that also be implied for the dark ages too?

[junior spire]

i need to spent 470 dollars to play the dark ages

i need a new processor and gpu

[obsidian shard]

They said a DOOM sandbox game, not a Sandbox game, people don't understand this

[sand osprey]

ouch

[buoyant sphinx]

i thought doom guy killed all the demons n shit in doom eternal -

[junior spire]

dark ages is a preque;

[plucky plinth]

TDA is a prequel to even 2016

[sand osprey]

"It was just a prank bro" xD

[thin zinc]

There will always be demons that need some killin'

[buoyant sphinx]

oooh, i haven't looked into it very much, ty lol

[junior spire]

im getting a free 4090 but i need a 400 dollar processor for the 4090 to work and 70 dollars for the game

[buoyant sphinx]

my first doom game was 2016 and i kinda hated it lowkey

[junior spire]

oh nahhh

i only have 2016

[thin zinc]

my first doom game was doom in 1993. I'm OOOLD.

[junior spire]

oldhead

[buoyant sphinx]

Unc

[junior spire]

👨‍🦳

[thin zinc]

Nothing like a sick day home from school playin' Doom in the 90's. You young people will never know.

[plucky plinth]

Same

[wheat sigil]

my first doom game was Eternal and I kinda loved it lowkey

[void sierra]

My first doom game was eternal

[plucky plinth]

minus the old part

[quasi escarp]

Same

[void sierra]

Then I got 2016 and I love them both

[buoyant sphinx]

I really like doom eternal i played it on the easiest difficulty to get the story n stuff and now im playing it on the one where if you die everything restarts( i forgot the name)

[thin zinc]

Wow you guys are young. I remember when Doom 3 was coming out and everyone was going crazy over the graphics. "It has shadows!!!"

[feral vault]

My first was 2016 and I liked it then I played eternal and adored it

[void sierra]

Ultra nightmare

[buoyant sphinx]

woah, really?

[junior spire]

i remember when 2016 was coming out 👴

[plucky plinth]

never got to live through those days, sadly

The older something is, the more I love it usually

[quasi escarp]

I only learned about doom from the guy on YouTube that talking about “This is the most disturbing doom mod ever” or something

[plucky plinth]

probably way I got hundreds of hours poured into 1 and 2 since 2019

[feral vault]

Midnight?

[thin zinc]

i can seriously remember my friend showing me Doom 1 in 1994 or something and i had never seen anything like it. I thought it was virtual reality or something.

[quasi escarp]

Yeah

[buoyant sphinx]

yes that, im doing pretty good i just beat the Marauder boss😭

[feral vault]

Dann he's video sucks lol

[plucky plinth]

... ||he comes back||

[buoyant sphinx]

i know, its my 2nd playthrough

[quasi escarp]

Okay? I still watch him either way

[void sierra]

I’m going to start a play through on that

[plucky plinth]

Oh

[void sierra]

On a switch

[buoyant sphinx]

i started on im too young to die and then jumped to the hardest difficulty cuz im js a silly guy

[simple mist]

My only real concern for tda is the pc requirements. But I'm sure theres gonna be a potato mod for tda

[buoyant sphinx]

it loos

Looks Very pretty

[simple mist]

Imagine how that would work. Like a potato pc mod for GGst

[plucky plinth]

I'd care more about the reqs if it didn't have Denuvo

I'm buying it on console instead

also, I want that physical disc, damnit!

[buoyant sphinx]

very hard for any non 4090 cards and what not to handle

[simple mist]

I have a series x so I can get it on xbox

[buoyant sphinx]

ew.... optical media bad!

[quasi escarp]

Okay, question…should I get the standard edition of TDA? Or the Deluxe edition?

[plucky plinth]

I fuckin' love it to death

[buoyant sphinx]

are you an unc?

[plucky plinth]

I'm planning to buy the Stardew Valley CD-ROM once I get the chance

[plucky plinth]

Nah, I just hate DRM and not owning stuff

[buoyant sphinx]

Real ig

[simple mist]

Real

[buoyant sphinx]

Lowkey i might pirate the new doom

whos gunna stop me

[plucky plinth]

Yeah, that's a real thing

[simple mist]

Tda honestly could have a deep combat system but in a way that's less mechanical and more decision making based.

[plucky plinth]

and that's what I loved about Doom 1/2

and well, how resource management works and how it forces you to explore

[simple mist]

Shield has a lot of uses but you have to pick the right option or take damage

[wheat sigil]

Eternal was already focusing a lot on decision making

[simple mist]

True

[plucky plinth]

to be fair basically every Doom game does

[simple mist]

Actually tda could basically be eternal+classic doom mish mashed together tbh

Gameplay wise,theres alot of resemblance to classic doom.

[plucky plinth]

to me it's more 2016+Classic

[simple mist]

Yeye I see

[wheat sigil]

I hope not...

[plucky plinth]

it looks much more based on a single plane rather than Eternal's "Aerial Assault"

[plucky plinth]

I hope it fucking is!

Two of my favorite games mashed together?!

[wheat sigil]

I don't want that simplistic gameplay being intertwined with classic doom...

[plucky plinth]

you don't like Classic Doom to begin with

but yeah, I'm very much looking forward to TDA

[neon perch]

It looks like a mix of classic Doom's gameplay and Eternal's art direction.

[plucky plinth]

yeah

with 2016's atmosphere

[neon perch]

I see very little 2016 other than the fact TDA leads to it.

[plucky plinth]

also with a combination with 2016 and Classic Doom's gameplay somewhat

[wheat sigil]

that's not true

[neon perch]

What about the gameplay is 2016? Genuine question.

I don't see any double jumping or DSKMS.

[plucky plinth]

every time I've seen you talk about the older games you're usually negative

[plucky plinth]

... good point and I will retract my statement somewhat

[wheat sigil]

I have never done an actual critique of any of the classics

[plucky plinth]

alright

[delicate grotto]

The grit of the game looks similar to 2016, but that’s about it. At least from what I can tell.

[wheat sigil]

yeah

that I don't mind

but I hope it doesn't emulate 2016 gameplay

[plucky plinth]

I do hope it's what I think it is, though

a "return" to the original formula somewhat

I've been dying for that, actually

[winter idol]

Its going to have the same running speed as eternal and 2016, just different movement abilities and a different jump

[plucky plinth]

I'm fine with the running speed

I mainly refer to the lesser focus on vertical combat and a bigger focus on exploration (compared to 2016 and Eternal)

[dark thunder]

still thinking about the fat maykr

[silent flicker]

rumor has it he had a heart attack before Doom 2016

[dark thunder]

too much argent

[fierce steeple]

So does anyone know where I can pre order a physical ps5 copy of TDA ages cause I just prefer physical of digital

[whole urchin]

Why must this game require an expensive ass pc

[simple mist]

Alot of games nowadays do

[whole urchin]

I know and it’s bs

[simple mist]

Just the new normal sadly.

[whole urchin]

Yeah, well I’ll have let’s plays

[zenith briar]

Just reminding everyone here

[simple mist]

Ps5/xbox will run it fine at least

[zenith briar]

Hugo Martin said they’d triple down on the purple sludge

[whole urchin]

But 512 gb

[simple mist]

Ayo the wut

[whole urchin]

Is too much

[zenith briar]

https://youtu.be/PH2-oM7IWpY?si=864C7_ELB3WSJREj

[whole urchin]

Hopefully it will be on Nintendo switch 2

[zenith briar]

5:55

[hardy solar]

Probably into the seven deadly sins

[simple mist]

Switch 2 port of tda Is likely tbh but in the future

[zenith briar]

Probably 6 months to a year

[simple mist]

Also I cant wait for the mayo% category for TDA

[zenith briar]

Panic Button gonna go CRAZY

I hope they put skybox taunts in the game

Mercury Steam messed around with the players in dread if they used exploits

[hardy solar]

DOOM Eternal was very well optimized compared to 2016, I had a PC under requirements and yet I could run DOOM Eternal more smoothly than 2016. So if ID did they job well TDA will be well optimized and you could play it with a PC under official requirements

[whole urchin]

I have a laptop and a dream

[hardy solar]

Well check your components on the website "Can You Run It" and see if there is too much difference between your PC and minimal requirements. If it's just under minimal you could maybe still run the game with minimal graphic options, but if it's way under minimal you could just wait to get a better PC and get the game cheaper in 1 year or later

Personally I've waited like 1 year to have a good enough PC to run DOOM Eternal, same thing for 2016

If you want a good PC I recommend you a desktop, it will be cheaper and you will be able to change the components over time for latest games

[hollow sandal]

I wonder, is there any pc setup that could run this game 144fps @ 1440p?

[regal geyser]

Top specs like 5090 and an i9 (or the new best intel has)

[hollow sandal]

That's crazy

[ebon shale]

I dont think you will need that much. 4070 is probably enough

[regal geyser]

At 1440p yes

[near valley]

Im surprised that Collectors Bundle is still in stock

[plucky plinth]

They're probably making as many as people buy

[near valley]

probably

[plain iron]

Yeah typically that's how it works

[hard thistle]

Physcial disk copies in the big 2025

[regal geyser]

Already generating lots of money before the game is out, business doing it’s thing

[spark ridge]

but how much of it is actually on the disc?

[plain iron]

Well you'd hope all of it

And the collectors edition is mostly physical items

[wooden acorn]

half a disc, you unlock the other half by completeing a series of riddles

[spark ridge]

I just don't want to get a disc and then have it contain nothing but a Steam installation exe

coughBaldur's Gate 3cough

[plain iron]

My ass had a nightmare abt ordering the wrong version of the collectors edition 😭

[wooden acorn]

it probably will just be a code unfortunately, they did that with the anthology edition

[plain iron]

I thought brought the pc version instead of the ps version 😭

I haven't even bought it yet

[wooden acorn]

I was torn between getting the PC edition or the Xbox Series X edition cause I have a Series S and was hoping it'd be a code that would work

may just get a physical copy eventually just to have it later tho

[plain iron]

Eh you could probably just buy a disk drive, if xbox does that

[wooden acorn]

true, but that's probably more trouble than it's worth

[zenith briar]

Hate that the only way you may could get a physical disk is a PlayStation version

[plucky plinth]

not even the Xbox versions?

[zenith briar]

I’m not sure. Xbox been moving away from disks.

[tough ridge]

we getting GOTY this time boys

[plucky plinth]

like I think the Xbox version has discs

[wooden acorn]

only the Series X takes discs
Series S is digital only

[plucky plinth]

I'm aware

[wooden acorn]

and it's only 512gb

[zenith briar]

That’s what I’m saying though I hate the fact that I have to think whether or not they have disks

[plucky plinth]

may I say there's a difference between disc and disk?

Discs refers to CDs and the such.
Disks refer to floppy diskettes.

[wooden acorn]

american vs british

[neon perch]

I feel like the amount of people complaining about the lack of GKs fail to realize the game is going to be a bullet hell where you positively, absolutely, MUST stay on the move in order to dodge the amount of incoming projectiles.

[plucky plinth]

Wait, seriously?

Oh my fucking God my life has been a lie

[wooden acorn]

yea, it's like color vs colour

[plucky plinth]

Whelp, I feel more like an idiot than I already was

[wooden acorn]

many such cases

[heady jacinth]

I love feeding my machines yummy discs like god intended

[neon perch]

Also there's like 100x more enemies onscreen than in the last two games. You seriously want to stop and GK every one of them instead of mowing them down with a riot control weapon that can kill them faster as you barrel down corridors?

[plucky plinth]

actually, I just looked it up on Dictionary.com and I'm actually not wrong

wait... why did Vega or Discord not register that as a link?

[wooden acorn]

interesting

[wooden acorn]

what link

[plucky plinth]

well, both terms are still used interchangably and the British/US thing is also correct

[plucky plinth]

when I said where I found the info, I guess because it's lacking that https prefix

[wooden acorn]

ohh

yea probably

[plucky plinth]

okay, I don't feel like a total idiot now

only 80% of an idiot because of another thing I just did

[plucky plinth]

I loved the older games for that bullet hell style gameplay tbh

I'm glad it's coming back

[wooden acorn]

setting the projectile speed and game speed as high as it goes just to see how fast it'll go

player damage: max
demon damage: as low as it goes
game speed: max
projectile speed: max
we gamin

[plucky plinth]

Doom TDA: Crack Edition

[wooden acorn]

exactly

feel like a true god

[plucky plinth]

No pain, only gain

[wooden acorn]

all pain some gain

[neon perch]

Funny how coming from nothing to 2016 to Eternal I would always try to gauge what the general consensus was on the game prior to release, how people reacted to tidbits of info and worry about whether or not it would stand to reason to assume it would be good.

[wooden acorn]

actually no pain cause you'll be dead any time you take any

[plucky plinth]

lmao

[wheat sigil]

I wonder how hard that'll be

[wooden acorn]

very

[wheat sigil]

potentially

[neon perch]

Now it's old hat, like who gives a shit. We know people will get the wrong idea coming in regardless of what id does.
Game has no GKs, it's flatter, it's more streamlined and more classic oriented. Either you get it now, or you'll get it when you actually sink your teeth into it.

I see very little substance in the way of complaints other than 'bawwwwww 2016 still better' or 'bawwwwwww no meathook, no color'.

[zenith briar]

The ultimate power fantasy

[wooden acorn]

yesss

[plucky plinth]

TDA might become my new favorite NuDoom game tbh

2016 is currently in that spot after replaying through some of it

[wooden acorn]

2016 is good ye

[sand sparrow]

Why that maykr so thicc

[wooden acorn]

ate too much argent

[plucky plinth]

because y e s

ate the fucking Manc

[wooden acorn]

maybe it is a manc

[sand sparrow]

American maykr be like:

[wooden acorn]

also find it funny they kinda gave him nipples

[sand sparrow]

Like Eggman in Sonic 06

[wooden acorn]

ye

[neon perch]

I feel like after TDA I could go back to Eternal easily and appreciate its approach still, the muscle memory I built from that game would still remain. 2016 however is already tough to go back to after it, TDA might as well be what completely kills it off for me.

[woven jolt]

some people thought that eternal was slower than 2016 when eternal was first shown off

[mossy geyser]

So I’m able to play on May 12

Not much of a difference

[neon perch]

Yeah a whole 2 days before launch.

This can't possibly backfire in the way of people spoiling the game for others.

[rigid crane]

Eternal in my opinion , started out slow first play through I was pretty bummed out.. as the game built I was like oooo hellll yeah then whhhhaaaatttt the fuk kk! As your heart jumping at your your chest. Eternal is like 2016 snorted a line of coke

[mossy geyser]

Ehh I won’t do that

All I will say is “it’s fun”

[zenith briar]

TDA will probably be much the same to eternal

You gotta know Hugo Martin is so glad he’s essentially created his own universe he can do anything he wants with

[winter idol]

dark ages will not be as fast as eternal, but you will be doing alot more mechanics

[gusty moth]

possible this game will go on sale?

[plucky plinth]

after launch, sure

[zenith briar]

Give it 2 months

3 maybe

[gusty moth]

premium jus to play 2 days earlier??

thats a bit much

[zenith briar]

I always thought it was funny because parts of TDA look like a roided up version of those mobile game ads that never deliver on the actual game.

[woven jolt]

what made you think this

that it's slower

[plain iron]

Look at it

[woven jolt]

what about it

[plucky plinth]

90% of the gameplay shown is literally standing around

[winter idol]

no dashing and no air movement, but the mechanics seem to be more used than in eternal

like going between melee and shield bash and block and shoot

[woven jolt]

the game can still be fast-paced if it's grounded
just think doom eternal, but always on the ground

[winter idol]

theres no dashing so its more like doom 2016

[woven jolt]

well, you can shield dash

[neon perch]

There is charging.

TDA is like this weird cornucopia of every Doom game ever.

[winter idol]

the shield bash is for targeting enemies

[woven jolt]

if you compare the 2018 doom eternal showcase to this one, the rate of enemies dying in the 2018 showcase is not faster than TDA showcase

[winter idol]

its not, the game will be mechanically fast, just not physically moving fast

[neon perch]

Well that could account for Eternal simply being slower at that point of its development.

[winter idol]

killing enemies is wayyy faster too now that glory kills are just 1 punch deaths

[plucky plinth]

just the way I like it :D

[winter idol]

same

[woven jolt]

horizontal movement is slowed down for trailers

[winter idol]

it looks slow cause of low FOV

trailers always run at 90 fov

[plucky plinth]

I play at 90 FOV

[neon perch]

I'm more concerned about the slowdown on every melee hit.

[winter idol]

i play at 120

[neon perch]

There better be a way to turn it off if it makes it to retail. It's going to get annoying really, really fast.

[winter idol]

unsure if it will make it in game, probably a setting

id software usually changes alot between early footage and release

gaurenteed the hud will change too

[zenith briar]

I think calling it slow or slow adjacent terms is a bit disingenuous.

[plucky plinth]

I do like the slowdown tbh

[upper mauve]

let me dream

i think the hud is perfect

[plucky plinth]

if it does I'll be sad

I love it

[neon perch]

I just want the HUD to be bigger.

[woven jolt]

that's what I thought at first, but you can literally see doomguy moving slow in the 2018 showcase,
plus I'm sure the excess of enemies will fill any downtime

[upper mauve]

im sure thats an option

[neon perch]

And probably for the mugshot to actually be Doomguy's.

[winter idol]

the side icons will probably get changed to something more in line with the rest of the hud, if not a full redesign

[upper mauve]

thats being added aswell

[plucky plinth]

iirc the later clips it actually does have this

[upper mauve]

i havent really seen any pictures of this

[winter idol]

yea, constant line of enemies will more than make up for it

[plucky plinth]

I saw somebody post it somewhere here

if I could find it again-

just that this chat has been absolutely flooded

[zenith briar]

Doom Eternal’s pace was widely determined by you the player and your need or lack thereof to have ammo. TDA pace seems to be much more dictated by the enemies than the slayer himself.

[upper mauve]

honestly i love how doom is going back to its roots with the enemy count. i wish they made music similar to the originals though

[shut whale]

Does anyone believe there will be more demons than Eternal and also will we see the marauder

[zenith briar]

Bit of a word salad way of saying that but I know what I mean

[plucky plinth]

right here, found a screenie
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/832527551154094150/1332218111839043644/GiBAOISXsAAq3Q4.jpg?ex=67951d0d&is=6793cb8d&hm=630accacc0817e5982c84506dc5d23f4cf95f0dbf427f0d183a33558c12ceac6&

[upper mauve]

sick

[winter idol]

that wouldnt really be possible with how the modern games are, classic doom was supposed to be a horror game

[woven jolt]

also, some people thought Eternal was going to be slower than 2016, I'm sure that could also apply to this new game

[neon perch]

I feel like people forget how fast the original games could play. It's less about the amount of inputs you perform/how high you can yeet yourself with a gun and more how fast you could kill shit and how the mapmaker used monsters to dictate the pacing.

[upper mauve]

was it?

[winter idol]

yea, trailer footage for doom games always looks vastly slower from how it is

[neon perch]

Okay I'm happy now.

[shut whale]

I wonder if we change the design of our cyber dragon

[neon perch]

Just make it bigger in HUD options and we're gucci.

[plucky plinth]

yeah

[upper mauve]

im not sure thats true

[zenith briar]

I’m sure Xamide and company will show how much you can speed it up too

[neon perch]

I like my games with chonk ass HUDs.

Especially FPS.

[upper mauve]

i like it when theres a bunch of shit all over the screen

[neon perch]

Makes it feel comfy, you know.

[upper mauve]

/gen

[plucky plinth]

I like my HUDs closer to the crosshair usually

[zenith briar]

This. The only modern doom that’s still a horror game is….that doom game.

[winter idol]

not full horror but it was supposed to be suspensful and scary in some areas, like doom 3

[plucky plinth]

What's that Doom game?

[neon perch]

First thing I modded in Eternal was turning off all the extra shit, getting rid off the button prompts, making it greyscale and bigger.

[plucky plinth]

except Classic Doom, it's default HUD is perfect as it is

[zenith briar]

Doom 3

[upper mauve]

the shotgun sucks in doom 3

[plucky plinth]

I don't consider that modern Doom by any means

that was from 2004

[neon perch]

Not enough people complain about the grenades in 3.

[plucky plinth]

also, just say Doom 3, it's not even bad

[woven jolt]

[neon perch]

Yes it makes sense for these explosives to be made of rubber and consistently bounce 2 whole rooms back to you.

[plucky plinth]

Oh I used them once and never again because I hated them instantly

[upper mauve]

i still think the blood shotgun is sliiightly better than the doom 1 shotgun

[zenith briar]

Funny thing about Doom 3, even though it’s modern by technical standards, it’s closer to retro doom by age than nudoom games

[gusty moth]

💀

[plucky plinth]

How dare you diss my favorite shotgun! /j

[neon perch]

It's also mechanically and behaviorally closer than the newer games. The AI is even programmed the exact same way.

However it is massively different in terms of pacing and actual gameplay.

[zenith briar]

I think the space marine horror single players were really popular around that time

May be wrong

[void sierra]

What’s a good budget for a pc that will run the dark ages

[zenith briar]

$1500 if you know how tinker with a PC and some dumb people on Facebook

[neon perch]

Take Doom 3 and add the classic-inspired enemy and weapon designs found across the newer games (with the zombiemen behavior and attacks from TDA), make more visually distinct levels and you basically have Doom HD.

[zenith briar]

Doom games are some of the most well optimized games in the industry

Texas studios for some reason are just fantastic AAA developers but extremely mismanaged or underutilized

Take for example retro studios

Look at the god like work they’re doing on Metroid Prime at the moment

Nintendo at the beginning just said “nah….theres some one better out there atm” when looking for a studio to make the new game

[zenith briar]

I agree. It had some good ideas that just were way too on the fence in my opinion.

[tired gazelle]

i literally have everything met except my cpu, and i cant change it cause its a gaming laptop. i hope they can bring it down just a bit more

[void sierra]

This will be my first pc btw

And I will want it to be performance only

[zenith briar]

You really don’t want to spend more than 7-800 dollars on a gaming PC for your first build given your knowledge of optimization and overclocking may be a bit limited at the time of purchase

But since your building solely for Doom that might not be advice you’d want to follow

[tired gazelle]

would you be able to get a 8 core processor and a good gpu along with the other stuff for 800?

[void sierra]

I’ll play more than doom

Like helldivers and other stuff

[zenith briar]

As much as I hate Reddit

[plucky plinth]

Helldivers 2 has some bullshit KLAC iirc

I'd personally say avoid the hell out of it

[void sierra]

Just send the link to my profile

[zenith briar]

Go to the buildapc subreddit. My brother lurks there all the time.

I honestly wonder where you go from this game’s setting

Like, you don’t top an all out war with mechs and dragons

[void sierra]

I just want to run TDA smoothly on any setting

[zenith briar]

Well, I’m sorry to say but these kinds of games

Have settings that only Hollywood elites run smoothly

With whatever builds they have

[hollow sandal]

The purple glow on the demons is the "glory kill" state, whats the yellow glow

[zenith briar]

You are gonna fry your computer playing TDA on the highest settings with a middle of the road PC

[void sierra]

I’m fine with spending a lot of money, I’ll probably just pay Over a few months

[delicate grotto]

Falter window I think

[zenith briar]

Overkill maybe? Yellow orbs in doom eternal were overdrive.

[neon perch]

Stun.

[hollow sandal]

yea i figured, thanks

[zenith briar]

Anybody else see that 12 inches of slayer post

[near valley]

Huh

[zenith briar]

I keep forgetting I can’t post links here lmfao

[near valley]

What post

[zenith briar]

Bethesda UK

[near valley]

[zenith briar]

Don’t have image perms either

[winter idol]

post the link to images

[zenith briar]

Ehhhh?

[simple mist]

Deep rock or SM2 are better games than helldivers

[plucky plinth]

remind me what SM2 is again

oh, Space Marine 2, right?

[simple mist]

Funny fps co op game

Yes space marine 2

[plucky plinth]

it wouldn't be an FPS then

it'd be a TPS

[neon perch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/832527551154094150/1332536102791286855/gangs.png?ex=67959c74&is=67944af4&hm=d74a612625a5611f5ffd23ca084f40841981c4a828e19a7e3deb0c11e1ee2786&

We just need a chaingunner to complete the set.

Not counting the TAG 2 one cuz it sucks.

[grave cave]

Yea, they were a pain

[normal jewel]

Can we get Mouse and keyboard support on console?

[scenic lichen]

I hope we see the Baron of hell and Archvile

[burnt panther]

It’s gonna be so awesome to box with one

There should be a power up that just allows you to go crazy with melee

[scenic lichen]

If glory kills are changed now then does that mean berserk will work differently too?

assuming berserk and other power ups will return

[simple mist]

The archvile in TDA could be a game journalist filter

And I'm 100% here for it

[burnt panther]

The mf fodder will be the filter lol

[simple mist]

[scenic lichen]

Good I want to feel challenged

[simple mist]

Real. Nightmare difficulty will be fun

may 15th cant come soon enough

[grave cave]

My birthday is on May 10 so best birthday present ever!

[tribal lagoon]

Need to know more about that twin barreled plasma rifle that was in the trailer

That design is so damn cool

Wonder if that’s a new weapon mod or if they just changed the Plasma Rifle outright

[lyric leaf]

It looks like the nailgun from quake

[tidal bloom]

They are all good 🙂

[unkempt thicket]

You’ve seen and used the double bladed chainsaw, now The Dark Ages will bring you the double plasma rifle.

[sudden arch]

This game looks like the one I’ve been waiting to preorder my whole life.

[fading kelp]

Yeah it's a mix of the plasma gun and the nail gun from quake

Looks great!

[gusty moth]

Is it worth to preorder

[uneven hedge]

Not really, I did preorder Eternal as a risk.

Better to wait until launch day and few weeks to see if it's worth it. It does look good though after I watched the preview of Dark Ages

[gusty moth]

Alr

[unreal tide]

Here me out, a mod for the flail let's you sling spikes and they explode upon impact

[arctic pagoda]

Probably, there's a skill tree now, so

[unreal tide]

I need it

I need it so bad

[hard thistle]

I just noticed the absence of quickswapping in the gameplay

Im all for a tank like gameplay but i hope quickswapping is still possible

Without forcing it onto players

[plucky plinth]

I'd personally say good riddance, but that's just my opinion

[hard thistle]

Thats what made the past two doom games so fun for me

They dont have to force it, take 2016 for example

Quickswapping is optional

Your weapons are already strong by themselves

[lyric leaf]

the weapons look so badass

[uneven hedge]

I didn't quickswap in DOOM 2016 and I was playing at the 3rd difficulty

[burnt panther]

Thick they are

The ssg looks like it can blast chunks out of a baron of hell

[lyric leaf]

I love the one that shoots skull fragments

[hard thistle]

bru the game wont have multiplayer?? (imagine a billion ?'s)

id been making perfect deathmatch games without deathmatch, incredible

[neon perch]

The effective spread on the SSG is fucking wild.

Either the soldiers are really weak this time around or the SSG is stupid strong. That shot with 7 soldiers dying from one trigger pull at 20ft is insane.

[burnt panther]

I mean it looks like the SSG went to the gym and took steroids

[hard thistle]

I wonder what the mod for ssg will be like

[west terrace]

Who else is planning to get the collectors edition?

[burnt panther]

Not me

[cyan lotus]

They didn’t quickswap anywhere near the capacity that’s possible now in 2016 and eternals trailers, I wouldn’t jump the gun so fast on that

[neon perch]

Actually have they said anything about weapon mods returning?

[burnt panther]

I love doom but not that much

[hard thistle]

It was shown

Doom: The Dark Ages' game director Hugo Martin added: "That's why we were able to put the dragon and the Atlan [mech] in. I mean, these are things we wanted to do in the game for, like, multiple games now, but couldn't, because we had a multiplayer component - which we loved - but really, it was meant to just focus on the single player campaign and just level up that experience for players."
what kinda excuse is that

[neon perch]

No you would switch the gun.

-# I'm sorry.

[west terrace]

? It’s a nice statue tho

[hard thistle]

if someone tells you "this game doesnt have multiplayer cause it has a mech in it" do you think its bs or na

[burnt panther]

Yeah but I don’t really have stuff like that and I don’t think I can convince someone to buy me something that expensive

[cyan lotus]

yeah

[west terrace]

Ohhhhh.

[vestal dagger]

I don’t think it’s mutual exclusion in a compatibility sense but perhaps they just had to pick their battles for what to add

[neon perch]

I think it might be that they're focusing more on the campaign and post-launch support. They've already confirmed DLC.
Co-op probably? Who knows.

[burnt panther]

Maybe if I was financially stable and had my own job

[neon perch]

Yeah.

[vestal dagger]

I reckon if they had time for interactive set piece stuff in Eternal they would have at least let the player fire the BFK 10K so I’m just going to assume it was something they didn’t have time for

[neon perch]

Being fair I'd rather they not promise anything they'd later have to walk back or cancel due to time constraints like they did with Invasion.

[hard thistle]

hope so

[neon perch]

One of the model artists claimed they almost had the soldiers hold guns like the original games, but ended up having to repurpose the armature and animation set from 2016 due to time constraints.

[vestal dagger]

Aw that would have been cool… makes sense though

[neon perch]

When even stuff like that gets scaled back due to time you just have to wonder how much stuff there was left on the cutting room floor.

Like the classic Archvile skin for BM which was datamined and apparently left incomplete.

[burnt panther]

Doom guy has more prep time than Batman when it comes to demons

[fading kelp]

Wait the upgrades!

I forgot about that, imagine if you can upgrade melee

Maybe it will be a different system

It looks more fantasy so probably with like magic or idk

Like the flaming hook but for melee would be great

The shield dash is basically like the hook but enhanced

The parry system will be really fun to see like in a fromsoftware game

[cyan lotus]

Getting rid of weapon mods is a decision I wouldn’t mind

[fading kelp]

Yeah that could very well happen

[cyan lotus]

I won’t speak for 2016 as I’ve barely played it, but in eternal, it works on a system of “this is the meta, if you do not use it, you’re actively hindering yourself”

[grave cave]

i have to say i love the 1 ton looking flail more then the crucible, even though itss iconic, but it looks more fukn brutal

and barbaric

[lyric leaf]

definitely

[hollow sandal]

I saw a double headed (or barelled) plasma rifle. I doubt it's a mod. So there's at least weapon upgrades. Maybe?

[hard thistle]

Weapon mods seem to boost your damage more rather than having a specific ability

Like the past two games

Unlike

[neon perch]

Wait it just occurred to me there's still no infighting.

It's joever.

[hard thistle]

So far ive seen two barreled plasma, flaming skullcrusher, and a full auto railspike

[hollow sandal]

Nice , yea not to mention the shotgun and ssg

[neon perch]

If you're making the game play more like classic Doom you have to have infighting. Come on now.

[hollow sandal]

True

[cyan lotus]

no infighting is better than scripted animations that exist just to do no damage imo

[neon perch]

Pretty sure there was a Skullcrusher with a tighter barrel end.

[gusty moth]

theres sandbox in this game?

[lyric leaf]

I'm so excited for the difficulty sliders

[gusty moth]

this game releases like 1 day before my birthday 🤑

[fading kelp]

Well pretty much the pace is like classic doom already

The demons also are close to the classic design for the recurring ones

We shall see before judging

[burnt panther]

It would be funny to see the bigger deamons show off

[neon perch]

It would be cool if certain weapon mods were stronger but required you to ditch the shield and operate them two-handed.

Also holy shit that combat shotgun sounds so good. I realize we haven't heard a lot in the way of weapon or enemy sounds because the OST is overpowering everything but I hope the sound design is solid in this.

[slender onyx]

the super shotgun sound is just wonderful

[fading kelp]

True the super shotgun will always be a top tier weapon though...

The shield will be the most fun part

[neon perch]

From the footage it seems like Lost Souls will actually fill a combat role this time around. If you block their charge, it depletes the shield.

Meaning they'll be real sons of bitches. Potentially. Hopefully. Maybe.

[hard thistle]

man it needed rtx

i guess iam cooked

wont be able to play this game for like 2 years or so

[sonic turret]

Elimination of the multiplayer mode from DA tells me that either they want people to keep playing Eternal online, or they perhaps have something else in the pipeline, like a followup to QC or Q3. However, since the very term "Deathmatch" was invented by id, I'd have liked to have at least seen a basic Team Deathmatch mode.

[digital bronze]

Is it gonna be for the Xbox one as well?

[radiant quiver]

No

[hard thistle]

Quake by machine games?

[digital bronze]

Darn it!!

[sonic turret]

I dunno, maybe. Who knows. 🤷

[radiant quiver]

Not really sure why that’s a shock, the Xbox One is an 11, going on 12 year old console. They had to move on eventually.

[flint oracle]

Does anyone know if GAME in the uk will be stocking the collectors edition?

[graceful lion]

or maybe the multiplayer mode is just not popular

not worth it for the time spent on multiplayer

(making multiplayer is really, really hard, its like making the game again in some way)

not nearly as simple as plug n play as you think it is

developers would LOVE if there was just a button to add multiplayer

[heady jacinth]

mmm, if the amount of people looking for mp matches here is anything to go by then most people don't touch it
Either that or everyone keeps missing each other lol

[flint oracle]

I loved the multiplayer for DOOM (2016) but Eternals battlemode was not my cup of tea.
Im fine with no multiplayer.

[graceful lion]

but also, modding multiplayer into a game IS possible

[neon perch]

Hop on SvS.

[graceful lion]

so maybe, if a team is dedicated enough, they could work on mp for like a few years

[neon perch]

insert gif of men kissing.

[heady jacinth]

I'd Do it if I haD a fRienD oR something who wanteD, but I Don't

[thin zinc]

yeah I was not a fan of that at all. I don't need a multiplayer mode in a Doom game. Focus on incredible single player.

[graceful lion]

fair point

gives the devs more time and effort to spend on even better singleplayer

[thin zinc]

I did like the horde mode thing they added, what was it called?

Probably just horde. I like that stuff, and the Arcade mode in 2016

[worthy current]

I'm looking forward to finding out who the new characters we've seen are gonna be, and hopefully learning more about commander valen

I mean I'm excited for all of it ofc but yk

I really wonder who that woman we get a brief shot of is going to be, like who is she aligned with

[hard thistle]

She could be this game’s “vega”

[worthy current]

Oh yeah

[fierce steeple]

Better than digital, you actually own the game with the disc

[worthy current]

I can tell I am going to sink so. much. time. into this game.

Its gonna be like the only game I play for months and months.

God it looks so

Good

[plain iron]

Please no 😭

I want Samur to be there somehow

[sand osprey]

Vega pls!

[proven stump]

Rip and tear until it is done!!!!!

[hard thistle]

just realized the whole name might be a souls ref (i am not very bright)

[patent oak]

Watched the direct a few times thank you Marty and Hugo and everyone at ID software. Dark ages gets us haaaard rip and tear 😁 🙈

[drifting garden]

In my opinion, doom games being slower and more straightforward with a bunch of enemies and not having to quick swap every two seconds in my opinion is better. I love slower action games and the difficulty slider will be amazing cause the amount of reckless things I’m gonna do with that will be so fun this is all my opinion.

[graceful lion]

also people should keep in mind, i said this like 3 times now, trailers are usually slower than gameplay

TDA seems like its gonna be similar to god of war but with guns which i sure as fuck am up for, with the slower combat and such

and even then, you can easily increase the speed of the game

[winter idol]

And the fov being 30 degrees tighter than normally played

[graceful lion]

which is likely modifiable too

well, should be modifiable

[plain iron]

Just gonna put this here

Don't wanna clutter genchat

Another thing I find interesting is the broken ring

It appears to be charred at the break points

And from what we know of maykrs, the rings are apart of the social system of their kind

[graceful lion]

oh i just realized he got no clothes on

[plain iron]

HE DOES

I THINK

[graceful lion]

look near his arms

[plain iron]

It's very odd for maykrs to wear clothes tho

[graceful lion]

wait if hes wearing a robe

why tf his man boobs visible

[drifting garden]

He thick

[plain iron]

A lot of maykrs have (I wanna say siphons) on their sides, I'd say it's that

Like a squid

[graceful lion]

well, the sentinels had no clue that the maykrs were doing fucked up shit no?

[plain iron]

They had no clue, which is why I'm confused by the whole "the slayer wakes up imprisoned"

Who tf is putting him in gaol

[graceful lion]

they really got that tech that made the slayer control a revenant drone

playing god killer simulator

by controlling the slayer

it would be pretty funny to just see them in a room with some sort of tv in front of them controlling the slayer with a controller

[plain iron]

Hm. Maybe but that also implies that godmode (which is what it's replicating w those yellow eyes) is a form of mind control

[plain iron]

It's us that's doing that

[graceful lion]

maybe when godmode is more unstable, becuase its new to his body, hes easier to control?

[drifting garden]

I think it is mine control because he is under the control of the makers and as the start of the first trailer says he is a super weapon that means he is under control

[plain iron]

Ooo that's a good idea

[graceful lion]

like his body is already trying to figure out what the fuck this godmode stuff is

[plain iron]

Well, the maykrs didn't like the fact the slayer went into the divinity machine

[graceful lion]

so it cant focus on being uncontrollable

what if godmode IS some sort of slayer controlling thingie, or a way to control him

[drifting garden]

So they tried to control him to make him think he’s their pet

[graceful lion]

something they did so you cant kill them back after going in the god-ifying machine or whatever

[plain iron]

Godmode has always been weird

Tbf all power ups are weird

[plain iron]

Maybe. I'd say it's moreso a thing of protection, knowing what the maykrs did now, they were probably anxious about the slayer finding out and retaliating

[graceful lion]

i wonder how we're gonna obtain this currency stuff, are there gonna be more challenges becuase TDA clearly looks absolutely massive, or isit gonna be kills per demon

[plain iron]

THERES FUCKING CURRENCY

[graceful lion]

i dont tihnk its kills per demon actually becuase why would you pay a superweapon if you control it

[graceful lion]

something like that, maybe a placeholder

[plain iron]

WHAT

[drifting garden]

Yeah, so there was scared of him, so they tricked him

[graceful lion]

there wont be microtransactions

i really relaly doubt it

[plain iron]

I mean, that's how they put him in the box

[drifting garden]

It was the Demons that did that if you’re talking about the beginning of 2016 I think they were

[plain iron]

Yeah I don't mean that, it's just like... what's he gonna spend it on? Bunny feed for when hes hallucinating daisy?

[flat pulsar]

Theory: you play as the fat Maykr who controls doomguy like a game character

[plain iron]

I think the maykr is representative of us the players </3 ||/j||

[graceful lion]

it seems like its gonna be used for one of the game's upgrade system

maybe some sort of skill currency it looks like, similar to god of war's

[drifting garden]

Roasting the whole gameing community like it’s nothing

[plain iron]

Also yeah i assume this is why there's rabbit feed in eternal :p

[plain iron]

I've never played God of war 💀

[graceful lion]

theres also a bunny behind a jail cell in nekravol

or, behind bars

[plain iron]

And one in hell on earth. And exultia.

[graceful lion]

bro is just sitting there

[graceful lion]

THERES ONE IN HOE?

[plain iron]

There's one in every level apparently

[graceful lion]

what,

[plain iron]

Mhm

Apparently its the slayer's manifestation of his guilt and trauma

Represented by daisy

[plain iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1062133063947145228/1324044915914571796/1942299d1c979-screenshotUrl.jpg?ex=6795b3ab&is=6794622b&hm=61a3e6b29f67664c28879ec730f491d30a5d04571f0fd7531c21e3c55ecd4da6&

Daisy

In the room w all the tentacles n shit

[graceful lion]

theres some blood on her foot

[graceful lion]

oh shit

[plain iron]

... you do know abt daisy's fate yeah?