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vestal dagger
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hm
VRAM actually could be an issue too

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depends on how low the settings can go though

graceful lion
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goddamn, you might need a 70 series or something for amd

vestal dagger
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Eternal despite its general VRAM hunger at high settings, managed to run-ish on a Switch

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So perhaps like Eternal, TDA might have a low VRAM overhead and it would just be a matter of turning settings way down

hollow sandal
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Eternal runs quite smooth 144 fps @ 1440p on my 1080

vestal dagger
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imagine I'm actually right and an RTX 2050 runs circles around a 1080 (if the 1080 can even launch the game)

hollow sandal
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In most places

vestal dagger
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Eternal ran really well on my RX 6600 which I think was similar ballpark to a 1080

hollow sandal
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Word

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I'm cooked honestly. But yea, I wanna try running it and see what happene

vestal dagger
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1080 might be 9 years old by the time TDA comes out
damn I remember finding the FE shroud leaks of the 1080 before it came out

graceful lion
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well, its nearly a 9 year old card

hollow sandal
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Yea forreal šŸ˜­

graceful lion
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id say go for something thats maybe 5 years old at most?

hollow sandal
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Ok, I'll shoot for a 30 series I guess

vestal dagger
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How well did Eternal run on cards from 2011?

graceful lion
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probably less

graceful lion
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atleast according to technical city

harsh egret
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im on a 3070 and i feel the need to upgrade to a 5070 for tda lmao

graceful lion
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but it will likely get support

hollow sandal
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Stupid question, but bottlenecks aren't a major issues with gpu right. Most of the load goes to the gpu anyway?

graceful lion
harsh egret
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yh ik, but it might be good

stray urchin
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you should go for the 5070 ti next month if your budget allows for it

harsh egret
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will see i guess when reviews are out

vestal dagger
graceful lion
vestal dagger
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A GPU can't really bottleneck a CPU

graceful lion
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i mean, fi its doing more

hollow sandal
harsh egret
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5070 then

vestal dagger
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I've got a 4070 Ti Super, I think I'm set unless I want to go silly mode with a 3x/4x MFG mode lol

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but I do not

stray urchin
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5070 having only 12GB vram is kinda pathetic

harsh egret
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idk if its just me but ive never rly complained about my 8gb on my 3070 lol

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the only game was indiana jones where i had to play on medium

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most stuff still high or very high etc but the texture stuff

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like i get it but its like i dont wanna play on max textures and get below like 70-80 fps in games

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so id turn stuff down no matter what

vestal dagger
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Ngl I think Nvidia should have used those 3GB G7 modules for the 5070
It would have 18GB of VRAM that way
sure it would be a bit silly having a bit more VRAM than the 5070 Ti and 5080 but the 5070 Ti and 5080 have much higher memory bandwidth
besides Nvidia have done this before with the 3060 having more VRAM than every other card until the 3080 Ti (or 12GB 3080 when that came out much later)

harsh egret
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i feel like they do this on purpose

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this generation is the generation of AI

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next 60 series is vram increase or sum

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if they just make the perfect combo now then why would anyone buy stuff later

vestal dagger
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I reckon they might do a 24GB 6080 or something, same 256-bit bus but with 3GB modules (they already exist now and the laptop 5090 uses them)

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eh
going offtopic, I think TDA in particular will give plenty of avenues to squeeze things into a 12GB buffer

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but other games eeehhh not guaranteed

harsh egret
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idk i changed stuff to max on eternal yesterday and it crashes on launch or when i alttab

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and reverting the changes even didnt fix

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now im crying

vestal dagger
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on a 12gb card?

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oh you have a 3070

harsh egret
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nah 8

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it was fine yesterday which is weird

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i think it has nothing to do with that ngl

vestal dagger
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Idk tbh I didnt have issues like that on my 6600
I even survived turning RT on even if the performance was horrendous (1st gen AMD RT accelerator lol)

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8gb card too

harsh egret
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yeah i did max everything with rt on, runs very well

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but at one point i alttabbed and since that it crashes when alttabbing or 50% of the time when launching

slender night
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Alt+tab has only really been stable for me with like a handful of games, not really helpful but yeah A+T is meh compatibility-wise

arctic pagoda
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Me in 2035 when doom the industrial age is announced

grim cloud
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got to have renaissance age first, then perhaps industrial

hard thistle
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Industrial age is just the originals

arctic pagoda
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No, that's fusion

slender onyx
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3 more days baby

slender onyx
arctic pagoda
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Doom dude riding a T-Rex while ripping mammoth sized demons would be rad

cyan lotus
arctic pagoda
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Ye

slender onyx
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tbh i want doomguy to speak more in TDA, start with having him do the rip and tear intro this time

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matthew watterson's voice for him is great and i want to see what he can do with the character

winter idol
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he wont speak much, if at all

harsh egret
near valley
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So the ray tracing in Doom Dark Ages will allow bullets to know whether they hit flesh/body or armor, right?

grim cloud
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Last two unviel gameplays had audience, we will not get that this time. Maybe they could show it off in front of id employees and they can cheer

sweet escarp
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Is there any info of how many space it is?

near valley
sweet escarp
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yes

vagrant path
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Any info on the price?

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I gotta know

solar drift
# vagrant path Any info on the price?

So far there's been no official pricing announced. BestBuy's page for the game lists it for $69.99, but we won't know if that's final or just placeholder until Thursday.

tribal lagoon
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maybe like 90-100 gigabytes

daring flax
void sierra
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Doomguy design is the best in this game

obsidian shard
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Real

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New one is my favorite so far

lapis storm
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if the dark ages gets a DLC, then i hope it will have Doomguy kill the champion titan

near valley
lapis storm
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yea

bitter orchid
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What is dark ages even on about?

lapis storm
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it would be cool because the slayers testaments also talk about the battle

bitter orchid
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Didnt Doom slayer killed every single demon alredy?

lapis storm
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the dark ages is a prequel

bitter orchid
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Oh

lapis storm
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it takes place after the classic games

bitter orchid
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But before 2016m

lapis storm
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yea

bitter orchid
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?*

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Like, in the middle of Doom 3 and 2016?

near valley
bitter orchid
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Or before Doom 3

near valley
lapis storm
bitter orchid
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Oh i didnt know that

near valley
lapis storm
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the timeline is like this
Doom
Doom II
Doom 64
Doom the dark ages
Doom 2016
Doom eternal
Doom the ancient gods part 1 and 2

bitter orchid
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Intresting

lapis storm
near valley
bitter orchid
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I was going to buy Doom 2016 cuz its on sale, its a good game? (Its for 3 dollars in my PSN)

near valley
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Based to codex when he fought the titan, he didnt have shield and sword, it was latter when it was forged, so maybe dlc before the shield idk

lapis storm
near valley
bitter orchid
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Better than eternal?

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I only played eternal (my First finished game in ps4)

lapis storm
old drum
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yes

lapis storm
half umbra
near valley
# bitter orchid Better than eternal?

Not really, its a preference, eternal more fast pasted and everything, 2016 is little bit less quick and no dashes, but there is no cartoonish stile, more like serious, so depends on ur preferences

near valley
lapis storm
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but overall atmosphere and story then maybe

near valley
bitter orchid
near valley
lapis storm
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I agree

half umbra
near valley
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For 4 bucks its definitely worth it

bitter orchid
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Dont Doom slayer got the crucible in the 2016 too?

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Like, that skull and bones version

half umbra
near valley
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He got one, he donā€™t use it

bitter orchid
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He uses It in eternal to give energy for his spaceship tho, lol

half umbra
# bitter orchid Sad

The game is still fun to me regardless; wouldnā€™t say it keeps me as engaged as eternal but itā€™s not lack luster whatsoever

near valley
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Compared to eternal it not that epic and fast paced, but itself its really good game

lapis storm
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yeah

bitter orchid
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Ik but, i feel that doom should have more Fist/sword combat, not only like the crucible (3 uses only) and the bloody punch

near valley
bitter orchid
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Ps4 is beeing forgeted alredy

half umbra
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I hope everyone here can get a new gen console if need be but companies may have to lower the price soon enough

lapis storm
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in doom 2016, his arsenal is a lot more militaristic than in the other games and is less fantasy like

bitter orchid
half umbra
bitter orchid
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And the minimum salary is 1.200k

bitter orchid
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Or 1.200

half umbra
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I would recommend trying to save up for the ps5 slim (digital) if possible

bitter orchid
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And like, imagine If you need to get 800 of that to survive the month

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Rent etc

lapis storm
bitter orchid
sterile sage
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Does Dark Ages also have multi play?

lapis storm
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yeah

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it most likely will

half umbra
near valley
bitter orchid
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Prob my next console Will be an Xbox series x, more acessible than PS5, the Sad is the Brand games, like gow and tlou

lapis storm
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I believe there is a showcase this Thursday that will show 10-20 minutes of dark ages gameplay and talk about story and concepts

tired gazelle
half umbra
near valley
lapis storm
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so we will probably figure out whether thereā€™s multiplayer this week

bitter orchid
bitter orchid
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And i dont need to pay to play online

lapis storm
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I know it probably wonā€™t happen but I hope the dark ages campaign will be co-op

near valley
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I wish they had more time on making the Dawoth fight better, 6 month was not enough for them

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I mean its literary the goal of doom slayer

bitter orchid
bitter orchid
near valley
lapis storm
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the dark lord

near valley
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Yeah

bitter orchid
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Bro, its funny to know that Doom only uses Guns for Fun

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As his fists are the strongest things in the fucking universe

sterile sage
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GTA was popular in multi-play

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How was the battle mode?

grim cloud
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fun once you figured it out, i played mostly the slayer. The single player game did a terrible job at preparing you for battle mode.

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this was probably why a lot of people didn't play it at first.

unborn tiger
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two more days aaaaaaa

harsh egret
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this is where they go from "not quite tomorrow" to announcing it to release "tomorrow" for no reason

plain iron
tribal lagoon
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TAG2 doomguy_dead

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Shouldā€™ve just delayed it

harsh egret
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hahah yeah

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even tho i liked it for what it was

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after a few months i came to the same realization as most people but i still love it

tribal lagoon
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The soundtrack was great though, levels looked gorgeous

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But man that final level and final boss

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Not the best

harsh egret
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The immora troopers i felt was one of the worst things ngl xd

plain iron
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I love their design but davoth's fight needs to be buffed

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Give my man some more attacks

harsh egret
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More variety in what you do in the fight wouldve been nice

plain iron
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And voicelines preferably omfg

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I've had him yell the same lines at me 3 times

harsh egret
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I will devour your soul šŸ‘¹

plain iron
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"I WILL DEVOUR UR SOUL >:]" I KNOW YOUVE SAID THAT ALREADY NONONOAAAAA

harsh egret
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Hahahah

plain iron
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But I do actually like the red light green light aspect of davoth's fight

harsh egret
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Gets repetitive but yeah its cool

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Visually tho he will remain one of my favourite if not my favourite enemy in doom tbh

plain iron
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I like repeating things, but he's a rng fuckfest

plain iron
tribal lagoon
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Where he just does the same move over and over and over again

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Says the same voice line over and over again

plain iron
placid saffron
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Davoth could have been an ok boss for like, the first maybe first 2 phases and then shift radically.

But what he is now straight up just doesn't fit the gameplay, let alone the FINAL BOSS AGAINST GODSATAN

plain iron
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Still wanna bite him tho

sterile sage
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Doom reboot seems to have a lot of flaws in the boss design. Am I the only one who feels that way

ebon shale
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I'd have to agree that eternals bosses are mediocre

sterile sage
grave cave
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the bosses are fun,, just they like to waddle

placid saffron
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It's an arena shooter and then most bosses are just in boring flat 1v1s with no oppressive kit to make it feel like a whole arena?

neon perch
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Doom is widely known for having shit bosses so it tracks.

placid saffron
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They barely even try aiming for their strengths and make that into bosses

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"Just" have an arena fight with 1 unique boss demon lmfao

grave cave
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the aiming for cyberdemon is awesome (eternals and 2016) they aim in front of you instead of ON you

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hope they keep it but if they change it, probably for a good reason šŸ™‚

safe ice
lavish hull
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New doom only rtx?

safe ice
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we might see in 2 days

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but it probably wont force rtx

lavish hull
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cool

safe ice
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but dont take my word for it, Im just making guesses

lavish hull
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yes

graceful lion
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its just a reskinned marauder as far as ive heard

graceful lion
grim cloud
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2 days

winter idol
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im assuming they will get into a few of the mechanics

grim cloud
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maybe what ever they plan for MP too ... assuming there is MP. Can't imagine a doom game without MP

winter idol
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yea they really could do literally anything for MP

grim cloud
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people have been asking for coop horde style mode since ... well before 2016 came out. Maybe we get that? Or some Sentinal Verus Marauder Verus UAC Marines team coop ... with demon invasions and ... so many possiblities. Ill aslo take classic deathmatch and battlemode becaue i want it all

winter idol
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I really dont see myself playing the multiplayer much

grim cloud
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i played battlemode to death, got pretty good as slayer but could never win against the top players consistantly. a match here and there at best

winter idol
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i was horrid at slayer

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also im not really sure how they could transfer the slow and specialized kit from the campaign into a pvp mode in the new game

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i feel like they would just need to tack on a separate game for death match

plain iron
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I want co-op, not pvp

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Maybe something like team vs team

slender night
graceful lion
grim cloud
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even when snapmap had people playing, it was hard to find players and it really never scratched that coop itch

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it would be great if they bring back the 2016 mp maps. Or have a simple way to playing them thorugh TDA. Probably a techical feat not worth the effort, but if people could simply access doom 2016's MP through TDA, that would bring a lot of people back. Also make it free and a seperate download

fickle radish
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Do we know anything about the price?

winter idol
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no

grim cloud
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if i had to guess 70 bucks standard, 100 early access with some skins or bs, 200 for super collectors edition with the slayer shield prop and a doomguy head sucker (because this is for suckers)

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but i would totatlly take another doom guy helmet. I have three of them

safe ice
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I just hope there will be preorder bonuses for all versions

fickle radish
fickle radish
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But tbh I would love to see that helmet

void sierra
fickle radish
safe ice
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they became 40 dollars way after release

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they were like 60 on release

fickle radish
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I bet $70

void sierra
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It will probably be 70 dollars

fickle radish
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That's like a standard rn, and tbh doom is worth that price

void sierra
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Agreed

fickle radish
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I hope that the online mode will be good, and with cross play

void sierra
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I might buy a ps5 just to get doom

fickle radish
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But I won't complain if it will be ahh

safe ice
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I mean seeing how every xbox published game is 70 bucks Im pretty sure TDA will be that price

fickle radish
stray urchin
safe ice
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I just hope it runs on the steam deck

fickle radish
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But If I want the collector's edition then ps

fickle radish
void sierra
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What do you think will come with collectors edition

fickle radish
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Idk I'm still buying that

grim cloud
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i needs the doom 3 marine helmet

safe ice
fickle radish
fickle radish
slender night
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The DOOM 3 marines do wear the helmet, just not the protag

arctic pagoda
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You think they'll ever bring back the doom comics?

void sierra
arctic pagoda
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I see

safe ice
grim cloud
fickle radish
abstract bloom
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my favorite level is the one where you kill demons

grim cloud
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two days, ugh the closer we get the slower things go. I still have a work day tommorrow

abstract bloom
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what happens in two days?

slender night
abstract bloom
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oh right

arctic pagoda
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Ye

grim cloud
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So i wonder what the controversy will be when htye show us? 2016 (piss/yellow filter, glory kills bad, where is his mug, movement too slow) Eternal (too colorful, mario bros fire traps, no mug again, where is DM?)

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Yes i got nothing more to say, im all out ... this wait has been painful

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5-15-2025

stray urchin
grim cloud
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yah, but its a thursday, so i dunno

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16 weeks if true

stray urchin
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It's coming from some french site, I'll try to find it unless it was removed

grim cloud
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its gone, the guy who saw it was able to capture it real quickly. at least that is what my research shows

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looks like there are two articles that talked about this date. might be it, it just might be it, but ill wait till the showcase to shit my pants

stray urchin
grim cloud
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yah that is the first one

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the second was a french one that got pulled last minute an hour ago

harsh egret
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thats perfect for me ngl

grim cloud
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I have to take two days of work off now, which is why i like friday because i can drink and ... well depends on the state

harsh egret
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god damn im hyped

grim cloud
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9 years after Doom 2016

stray urchin
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crazy to think we could be playing the game in less than 4 months, that's great

harsh egret
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yep

fickle radish
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I don't understand the eternal hate

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it's my fav doom

wooden acorn
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day 21 of 2025 is it out yet

fickle radish
wooden acorn
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aw man

neon perch
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Tomorrow's the last day.

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Might as well not even count it.

arctic pagoda
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Hey

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I like the new demon looks

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Gives em variety

slender onyx
arctic pagoda
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Ye

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I like how no demon in 2016 looked like its counterpart except baron, and every demon in eternal looked its counterpart, except baron

slender onyx
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they ruined the revenants in eternal

arctic pagoda
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They did, yea

slender onyx
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and the hell knight

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the more comic booky feel of eternal only works for certain things

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the demons in D16 reminded you that even though doomguy is powerful they should still be taken seriously

strange coral
stray urchin
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We got more footage wow

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id tech 8 confirmed

sleek quail
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Some dark info i think got leaked that confirmed that their next main game that is The Dark Ages was using id tech 8

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It was from the last year that they have been using idtech8

strange coral
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man I love the design of that factory/techbase

arctic pagoda
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Ye

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I like the skullcrusher

strange coral
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at this point the skullcrusher is gonna become as iconic as the BFG or the SSG in the Doom universe

scenic lichen
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Game releases tomorrow for sure !

scenic lichen
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Such a metal gun

neon perch
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Combat shotgun confirmed.

strange coral
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semiauto I guess

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can't be pump action while holding the shield with the other hand

neon perch
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Full auto is now base fire pog.

strange coral
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maybe. The skullcrusher seems some sort of automatic shotgun too

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as described by Dreamcastguy

stray urchin
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the music from the footage sounds like it's in game

bitter aurora
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yall have no clue how exited i am for the new game

grave cave
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40 hours left!!

strange coral
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well Imagine my hype, I literally DREAMED about the next reveal

sterile sage
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Is 5 years of development appropriate? I'm worried that the quality will decrease due to the issue of the development period

grave cave
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Yea

sterile sage
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Is the average development period for AAA games five years?

strange coral
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doom 4 was released on 2016 and eternal in 2020

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development time depends on the project and the studio, also keep in mind that they already have a lot of stuff figured out from the previous games

grave cave
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That's 4 years, so 5 years will be definitely enough

strange coral
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and both games worked pretty good since day 1 as far as I remember

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great optimization and no major bugs that I remember. So I wouldn't be worried

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  • ID tech 8 and 100% next gen hardware. If only Im excited about the new possibilities
sterile sage
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So why does ELDER SCROLL6 take so long?

stray urchin
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Doom eternal was originally supposed to come out in November 2019, I wonder how the game would have played if it launched back then

strange coral
sterile sage
strange coral
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A Doom game is not easy to develop either, but it's a lot more focused and straightforward experience and they are probably recycling/modifying assets, scripts and other resources from eternal and 2016

strange coral
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RDR2 for example

sterile sage
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I remember there were a lot of bugs when Eternal was released, but there wouldn't be a lot of DARK AGES, would there?

half umbra
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Donā€™t worry I feel the same way but thatā€™s just new generation AAA being like that. Itā€™s all a matter of time

cyan lotus
half umbra
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I believe Arkham Knight, cyber punk, and one of the Witcher games were almost unplayable on release on certain consoles but they got fixed after

cyan lotus
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I would not go as far to call eternal having been ā€œalmost unplayableā€ on launch

half umbra
cyan lotus
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Some changes were kinda odd choices tbh

half umbra
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Iā€™m just referring to those games to lessen the worries of dark ages being like that then staying like that for a while

strange coral
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maybe you are worried bc of the bigger levels and larger number of active AIs on screen (?)

half umbra
cyan lotus
strange coral
half umbra
strange coral
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Np

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I'm also interested on how they are gonna manage the large groups of enemies. In the trailer It seems they are placed on fixed positions waiting for the player to enter a radius to trigger their aggro

sterile sage
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Eternal dlc2

strange coral
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and they said in an interview that they multiplied more than 3 times the number of enemies on screen. If they manage to optimize the game to the point of making a serious sam without crashing it's gonna be amazing

sterile sage
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The Battle of Arena is not really a concern. The biggest concern is the Battle of Boss.

half umbra
sterile sage
void sierra
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Iā€™m looking forward to the mech part more than the dragon part

strange coral
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Maybe we can "command" air strikes while the slayer is on the ground

void sierra
strange coral
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yep

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but wathever they do I hope they keep the BFG as always. Otherwise it wouldn't be Doom

plucky plinth
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especially after the somewhat "haha delete" button that are the last two iterations of it

strange coral
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haha too much deus ex machina

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they can make it more similar to classic doom in terms of damage

plucky plinth
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the older ones worked because they took from your pool of ammo for yet another useful weapon

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and well, I guess lower damage

strange coral
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yeah

plucky plinth
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honestly, the older games worked just because of the fact you had limited resources

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I honestly never liked that in the newer games they basically gave you everything in unlimited amounts

strange coral
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I know what you mean when you talk about newer BFGs but considering the amount of enemies we'll be fighting at once in Dark Ages... I can't deny it'd be sweet to wipe em all out with a single shot from time to time

plucky plinth
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and I'm honestly hoping TDA isn't like that

strange coral
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oh yeah Im familiar with slaughter maps

plucky plinth
void sierra
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BFG shouldā€™ve been more limited in eternal

plucky plinth
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yeah

strange coral
plucky plinth
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I never even completed it

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I gave up on map27

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and that was on HMP

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well, I will admit I do suck at games so HMP is my default skill level for 1/2

void sierra
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What is HMP?

plucky plinth
void sierra
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Oh I shouldave gotten that

strange coral
plucky plinth
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oh I just assumed you knew what they were

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I didn't even assume you've played them lol

strange coral
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The last map I made had a bit of slaughter combat in some areas but most players told me it was quite balanced for a slaughter fight

fading kelp
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I hope the master levels come back in the dark ages

strange coral
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And secret levels too

fading kelp
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Yeah of course. It will be more slow paced gameplay though so horde mode and stuff like that probably won't happen

slender onyx
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just how long can we expect thursday's showcase to be?

storm shadow
fading kelp
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Did yall see the leaks?

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But like the actual one

final dune
fading kelp
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Want a link?

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It has like no views

final dune
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sure

fading kelp
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Where do I send?

final dune
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dm

hazy mist
final dune
hazy mist
final dune
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oh zamn

fading kelp
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Yeah already there thats why I asked before sending it

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I also asked if yall saw it, and it seems like so

obsidian shard
#

New footage is PEAK

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So good

#

The Design, id COOKED

fading kelp
#

Yeah the details are insane

formal nest
#

1 day doomguy_god

grave cave
#

The arenas are going to be fukn insane!!

#

I'm very curious how they managed to do that advanced glory kill

coral sundial
#

Do talk think it's going to have a Switch 2 port?

safe ice
grim cloud
#

looks like Doom Dark Ages is infact Idtech 8. Confirmed

latent fractal
unkempt thicket
#

I saw that the release date has been leaked, but Iā€™m still kinda not sure about it. I just want id to take their best time.

latent fractal
unkempt thicket
#

May according to a French source.

grim cloud
#

also said by someone at nvidia apparantly. But yes not 100% confirmed

safe ice
#

we'll see tomorrow ig

chilly wagon
#

It's pretty solid, insider gaming have good sources

tribal lagoon
chilly wagon
#

Some of the bugs did make eternal very fun though

#

Like the one where if you pull up the weapon wheel whilst meathooking you speed up like crazy

tribal lagoon
#

A less fun bug was the one that made the Meathook collide with armor pickups or something like that and it would cause the Meathook to disconnect

#

Thank you TAG2

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(It wasnā€™t caused by the TAG2 update but it did get discovered sometime after TAG2 released)

sterile sage
tribal lagoon
cyan lotus
sterile sage
#

I think it's probably because of Covid.

stray pollen
#

What are your guys thoughts on the music in the new footage? I'm digging the epic dramatic tone

sterile sage
#

I expect the QA team didn't catch the bug properly because they were working from home during COVID-19

tribal lagoon
neon perch
#

For some reason the release date being so relatively close to this reveal irks me. May can't be it.

#

Something's off.

latent fractal
tribal lagoon
#

It impacted everyone

sterile sage
#

Cyberpunk bugs were the worst, Eternal wasn't that bad, but there were some inconveniences.

neon perch
#

Eternal's bugs are annoying on occasion but still, sucks that they were left unattended.

cyan lotus
neon perch
#

That I can't fight a Hell Knight or Dread Knight without hauling ass 5 whole rooms back because they'll slide across the floor and lock onto you is seriously bullshit.

#

The Tyrant's tracking attack detaching from the ground and hard homing into you also never got patched.

latent fractal
#

the most bs i encountered in eternal were enemies occasionally body blocking you and marauders slowing you down by 200% after they hit you for a couple seconds

neon perch
#

Really cool that they'll add a dash to dodge attacks and then the enemies won't give a shit and hit you anyways.

tribal lagoon
#

The Dread Knight slam attack always seemed a little buggy

neon perch
#

Dread Knights are janktastic.

strange coral
#

I'm very interested to see the new level design and exploration. And I hope they add another Motƶrhead easter egg

near valley
#

I hope TDA will have good boss fights

grave cave
strange coral
grave cave
#

that would of been an awesome feeling

strange coral
#

And bit scary too šŸ¤£ had to check it on Youtube to see if I was dreaming

placid saffron
#

Well there's a bit of selection bias there because so far we have only seen showcases that try and show the game in it's best light

near valley
placid saffron
#

DA sounds to be less movements focused so the climbing part is out

#

And the IOS was one of the better bossfights simply because he fought in an actual eternal arena

near valley
#

well im pretty sure the titan from 2016 fight was right before where priests sealed him, so he will probably be the last boss fight, idk

agile ore
placid saffron
agile ore
#

Nah, probably sponsorship deals with nvidia. Gotta use that performance someway

placid saffron
#

Nvidea has nothing to gain about "ray tracing bullet" considering... that how they have already worked for decades

#

Way more likely it's on the journalistic side throwing around buzzwords

agile ore
#

But why market and use RT for hit detection when you had that solved extremely fast 20 years ago

And no, Billy Khan said this too in that interview (if the quotes are percise)

placid saffron
#

Drying it out over an entire article though

grave cave
#

6 hours left

winter idol
#

its not today

#

more like 30 hours left

safe ice
#

Im very excited

grave cave
#

the director live stream starts in 6hrs, no?

winter idol
grave cave
#

fuk,, but its gonna be worth the wait!

odd shore
#

In like 28 hours

near valley
#

1 more day

oak temple
#

I hope people won't just dog on this game because it's not Eternal 2.0

#

I respect id for not just wanting to make the same game again

winter idol
#

i dont think they will, alot of people wanted a slower experience

safe ice
#

I just hope it doesnt constantly lock you in an arena like in eternal

winter idol
#

depends on how the game works, we dont really know if levels are structured the same or not

#

if they are then i expect big arena encounters, we did see a big arena from the nvidia video

oak temple
#

Yeah looks like bigger arenas to move about and dodge projectiles

#

Less vertical

#

More wider

safe ice
#

that would work too

#

but looking at the first trailer it seems like it'll at least have some non-arena encounters which is nice

#

hell, imagine if they do the thing where they have enemies act as sort of sentries like in the classic games

void sierra
#

Release date leaked it will be released on the 15th of may, apparently

safe ice
#

I'll take it with a grain of salt but wont be surprised if its right

winter idol
#

a pleasant surprise if its true, i was convinced that i was coming in november

placid saffron
#

I wasnt even guessing this year

#

But it's but 1 claim of an article

oak temple
#

I knew it would be this year and before november since they dont want to compete with COD but May is earlier than I thought

placid saffron
#

Considering cod and doom are owned by microsoft i don't think they care to much about too close release dates

oak temple
#

Yeah but releasing two shooters close to another means one will attract more players than the other. While if its seperated a decent amount of time then they can bank on both getting good sales

placid saffron
#

Probably means like a month either side they don't want to release but that's not much

placid saffron
wooden acorn
#

Day 22 of 2025 is it out yet

slender night
#

This joke got old fast

fickle radish
wooden acorn
arctic pagoda
#

I want free roam doom

grim cloud
#

1 more day! then the hype returns in full swing. the lore discussions, the demons, the weapons, the "where is the wretch" non story nonsense. Got to get throiugh this work day

slender night
grim cloud
#

define open world. I dont think that kind of game really does well with FPS. However, i think a Metroidvania style like Metroid Prime would work.

slender night
#

Open world as in you can walk where you want. RAGE 2 here I'm referring to

arctic pagoda
#

Not like full open world, but free roam, or at least larger areas

grim cloud
#

I loved Rage 2, but it lacked a lot of things to do. Exporering was fun, but not a lot of missions and underground "dungeons"

arctic pagoda
#

Something like a Metroidvania, where there's secrets but only when you have the right tool

grim cloud
#

gamespot interview mentions maps are three times the size, and are "open with new areas opening up as you explore other areas". whatever that means

placid saffron
placid saffron
#

Can't wait to gloriously hold W towards the objective

slender night
#

Even if TDA ends up horrible if it has the Soul Cube or Maledict it's GOTY for me

arctic pagoda
#

The dlc had something neat with the meathook grapples, we just need more

placid saffron
#

Sadly they likely threw it all away (and i wouldn't blame them if this was their focus)

arctic pagoda
#

Ye

safe ice
placid saffron
#

Yeah that is what "less" means

safe ice
#

like you're gonna be dodging projectiles n shit so theres some movement just not dashing and jumping every millisecond

arctic pagoda
#

This is more of a me thing, but I want to take down demons the size of mountains

safe ice
arctic pagoda
#

Just huge ole titans

placid saffron
slender night
#

They should let us gun down the D3 Cyberdemon

placid saffron
#

Or preferably: not different/not there at all

safe ice
#

I heard from someone who saw the quakecon footage that the mech can use a chaingun

placid saffron
#

Wow, it's confirmed it can use a single gun

#

šŸ˜­ if that is their news highpoint i'm only less excited to get through it

safe ice
#

I mean it could always use more, not to mention the melee combat

#

I didnt say "yeah it can use just this and no other thing" I just said someone who saw the footage saw the mech use a chaingun

placid saffron
#

The more they focus on mecha gameplay naturally the less they could polish regular gameplay though

arctic pagoda
#

Lazer dragons

grim cloud
#

i am also not sold on the mecha stuff. Doom guy doesnt need it

arctic pagoda
#

Except he does

safe ice
#

tbh Im not too enthusiastic about it either but if done right it could be a fun addition

placid saffron
#

That's the whole problem with these alternative gameplay sections... it's basically never is as polished as the actual core gameplay and tends to feel like a chore to get through rather then an enjoyable part of gameplay

arctic pagoda
#

This was before or shortly after he became the seraphims puppet

placid saffron
#

Most "best cases" i still wished it just focused on 1 anyways, or made the other it's own game or smth

placid saffron
proud vine
placid saffron
#

Isn't astrobot's thing that most levels have a gimick though

Also, it's an exception. Not the rule

neon gust
#

you can tell it's an exception because it's a PS5 exclusive and the rule stipulates the PS5 gets no games

slender night
#

That and Ragnarok were the wow PS5 exclusives, key word were

safe ice
#

iirc the astrobot devs wanna put the game on pc too

slender night
#

At least it's not as mishandled as the Saturn

placid saffron
slender night
#

SEGA had the best idea for an exclusive

#

They wanted to make a big game exclusive to their last-gen platform and NOT their current one

placid saffron
#

even nintendo's exclusives are becoming even more and more stupid as their hardware gimicks become more and more just regularly approachable instead

graceful lion
#

game does look kinda fun tbh

hazy mist
arctic pagoda
#

It's like Mario but robobo

pastel sedge
#

hello

late vine
#

I'd say o.g. Doom has less focus on movement than Eternal, but the core movement is still better. It needn't be the focus.

I love the sound of bigger maps that are more dynamic and changing. That's one of the best things about the original. The maps can be packed full of surprises

plucky plinth
late vine
#

Yes, but the movement was subtly brilliant.

plucky plinth
#

I'd agree

fickle radish
#

How much do y'all think the collectors edition will cost

cyan lotus
#

2519261 dollars

plucky plinth
#

it just works (except in platforming istfg if I gotta play The Chasm again I will lose it)

#

also sorry for that long ass message time, I forgot the level name lol

fickle radish
unkempt dragon
safe ice
plucky plinth
wheat sigil
#

sure, Eternal leans into movement, but that does not exclude other aspects

plucky plinth
#

I never said it excluded the other 2 aspects

wheat sigil
#

decision making is genuinely as important as movement

plucky plinth
late vine
#

Is there a new preview out that mentions these larger, more changeable maps?

plucky plinth
#

dunno

unkempt dragon
#

Using movement properly and efficiently requires on the spot decision making. I love Classic Doom but I don't think it requires more. It's less multitasking than the newer Doom games. Which is why I sometimes prefer Classic. Idk, I try not to compare them so much.

plucky plinth
#

Yeah, the older games didn't need much multi-tasking

#

if you know what you're doing during a fight it's much more streamlined

late vine
#

Dunno about that.

plucky plinth
#

See Enemy Types > See Enemy Positions > Get Resource Positions (if possible) > Get Shape Of Arena > Make Plan > Enact

late vine
#

I think there's more going on than most realise with the classics.

unkempt dragon
#

lol

#

nobody is saying that there isn't

plucky plinth
#

Yeah, I was mainly indicating the usual structure on how to approach arenas

late vine
#

The statement that classic Doom didn't need much multitasking is what i disagree with.

wheat sigil
#

there is certainly more going on under the hood in both Eternal and the classics than what many realise
the better you get at the games, the more complex they get

unkempt dragon
wheat sigil
#

for me, the classics are pretty simple since I know next to nothing about their combat, but there is certainly stuff going on there still

plucky plinth
#

The Classics can be aboslutely batshit chaotic

#

but overall once you streamline the game, multitasking isn't as much of a thought

#

by then you can usually split everything up into steps instead of running everything at once

#

but that usually requires you to know how everything's gonna play out

unkempt dragon
late vine
grim cloud
#

Old interview last june

late vine
unkempt dragon
late vine
#

no worries! šŸ™‚

inland beacon
#

70$! AINT NO WAY IM PAYING 70$

modern elbow
#

WHEN IS IT OUT??

signal crescent
#

You will pay 70 bucks mate @inland beacon , it's DOOM, it's worth it

modern elbow
#

i will be begging my friend to buy it for me

inland beacon
#

Im at least waiting for the reviews

upbeat veldt
tiny trail
#

My friend buying it for himself and me we gonna play it together

dreamy arch
#

Isnā€™t it dropping day one on game pass though?

inland beacon
#

I love doom but my broke ass also loves eating

tiny trail
#

Big back

modern elbow
upbeat veldt
dreamy arch
modern elbow
inland beacon
#

I would stop buying food and eat kids instead but there arenā€™t enough children around for me to eat because i ate all of them

fair egret
#

soo I assume we're going to be getting a release date tomorrow

upbeat veldt
#

hope so

#

if not ima cry in a corner

inland beacon
#

Do you know how much a liver goes for. I might sell mine so i can buy the game

serene cloud
#

doom dark ages when??? is there a release date??

plucky plinth
upbeat veldt
#

depends are you healthy

charred raptor
#

Collector's editions leaks ?

upbeat veldt
#

ima pre order if its good ill say if not then i must be on drugs

inland beacon
#

Being on drugs would heighten the experience

upbeat veldt
#

true

harsh briar
#

Noah noah noah noah noah

thin fossil
#

This game looks peak, better than eternal in all ways

dusty grail
#

Was the collector sold on the official site when they did doom eternal?

upbeat veldt
#

i assume we getting a release date soon

inland beacon
#

You think The trailer footage of doomslayer getting suited up is gonna be an intro cutscene. because if so then the ssg would be way too op of a starting weapon. We see it one shot a hell knight

cosmic glade
#

We already have Š° possible date.
15 may

inland beacon
#

Thats just leaks though

#

They may be false

upbeat veldt
#

may be true

#

idk i don't trust stuff until its said by the developers or cant be disproven

inland beacon
#

I was skeptical that dark ages even existed when those were just leaks

cosmic glade
#

Idk but this news is already everywhere

upbeat veldt
#

i guess we might see tmr if it is announced that is

neon mesa
#

Any news on the system requirements? I'm curious to see how this game will run compared to eternal.

inland beacon
#

I hope dark ages doesnā€™t deviate too much from the formula. If so we might not have any room for a new quake or heretic or hexen ect

upbeat veldt
plucky plinth
upbeat veldt
#

old gen consoles are cooked

inland beacon
#

Eternal was just an improvement on 2016

plucky plinth
#

old gen won't even be receiving the game

feral vault
inland beacon
#

You think switch 2 might get it

plucky plinth
#

ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

upbeat veldt
#

prob right also they would loose alot of money if they did that

#

doom is built of the community not for money so

#

would not want to let the fans down

plucky plinth
upbeat veldt
inland beacon
limpid ridge
#

New trailer tomorrow?

inland beacon
#

Yes

upbeat veldt
#

hopfully

limpid ridge
#

Oh nice

plucky plinth
inland beacon
#

Its literally confirmed

limpid ridge
inland beacon
plucky plinth
#

Dw, I already found it ages ago

upbeat veldt
#

doom has always been fast paced but eternal just took it to a whole new leave i wonder if dark ages will take a step back

plucky plinth
#

overall, I've started to prefer 2016 by a lot in both atmosphere and gameplay

upbeat veldt
#

fairs

cedar thicket
#

I think gameplay wise Eternal was an improvement but tonally, atmosphere, and story was a downgrade from 2016

inland beacon
#

Atmosphere i get. But not gameplay

upbeat veldt
#

gameplay of eternal with some twists and a good story like 2016 would go hard

slender night
#

DOOM 3 remake would go hard

half nacelle
#

I heard the release date got leaked

inland beacon
#

Again I just hope after dark ages they finally make another fucking quake game

plucky plinth
upbeat veldt
plucky plinth
#

also, it feels like you just have infinite everything in Eternal

#

I never had any ammo, health, or armor issues in Eternal

upbeat veldt
#

thats not necessarily a bad thing

inland beacon
cedar thicket
slender night
#

UN is not harder in the traditional sense than NM

#

Also you keep pushing DE being better at gameplay to Coder like it's a fact and not a subjective thing MarauderShrug

cedar thicket
#

For I moment I read the UN as United Nations and NM as New Mexico doomguy_grin

upbeat veldt
#

i wonder if there will be a battle pass like eternal

slender night
#

Eternal had no battle pass though

#

Or do you mean the events system

inland beacon
upbeat veldt
#

yeah

unborn tiger
#

why does doomguy enter his dark ages? is he depression?

inland beacon
#

Mood eternal

upbeat veldt
wheat sigil
unborn tiger
slender night
#

That movie is one of the weirdest Polish things ever

plucky plinth
unborn tiger
plucky plinth
#

but even on UV I felt like it was Ultrakill with it's infinite pool of ammo

unborn tiger
inland beacon
cedar thicket
inland beacon
#

I just hope doom the dark ages lets you **** the enemies

unborn tiger
old hill
cedar thicket
inland beacon
#

Please id have dark ages start with a slayer and intern ***** cutscene

unborn tiger
slender night
#

But it's a prequel

inland beacon
slender night
#

gaming!!

inland beacon
#

Doom the dick ages

cedar thicket
#

Would you bruvs like to see a new Doom take place in the UK?

inland beacon
#

Oi oi mate

upbeat veldt
#

yaah innit bruv would like that innit

#

doom the roadman age

plucky plinth
#

I will still say that Eternal had the infinitely better Cacodemon

inland beacon
#

Doom the DARK ages. Thats pretty woke

upbeat veldt
#

but any way what you reckon the final boss is something new or a remaster of something old

plucky plinth
unborn tiger
cedar thicket
#

šŸ‡ØšŸ‡æ

unborn tiger
#

smh my head

upbeat veldt
#

all i know its inevitable fortnite dose a collab doomguy_angry

arctic pagoda
#

Doom the great depression ages when??

plucky plinth
arctic pagoda
#

The bright side is you can buy a whole meal for a dollar

plucky plinth
#

Downside: You barely make a dollar a month

sonic turret
#

Is there supposed to be some footage revealed this weekend? I just saw a video that I hadn't seen before with the Knight Sentinels, and the poster claimed that it's unseen leaked footage of TDA.

wheat sigil
plucky plinth
tranquil moss
tacit hawk
#

You think theyā€™ll do a dark ages collab next?

lucid atlas
#

Bought a ps5 finally just to play dark ages when it drops

hollow sandal
#

You guys aren't ready for tommorow

proven nest
hollow sandal
#

Yea

humble mountain
#

is everyone ready for tomorrow

grim cloud
#

feels like a long wait still, i still have to sleep!

willow briar
willow briar
half nacelle
oak temple
#

I've got my scissors and shredder ready

arctic pagoda
#

Hey

fast pasture
# willow briar Whatā€™s happening tmrw

Tomorrow is the Xbox showcase where they will do a deep dive into there upcoming games. Doom TDA is going to be a big part of it and we will hopefully get an official release date.

granite smelt
#

There will be a collecionist versiĆ³n?

brisk bay
#

Who's hyped for Doom The Dark Ages?

arctic pagoda
#

Me

neon perch
cursive dirge
#

The light ages?

arctic pagoda
#

Doom medieval simulator

wary vault
#

oh god im gonna DOOM

arctic pagoda
#

Ye

bitter aurora
neat sable
#

An extended vid of the short trailer weā€™ve seen recently, and the showcase of Xbox developer wears tomorrow but this dude somehow watched it.

frozen shuttle
#

Btw is the developers direct today or tomorrow?

neat sable
frozen shuttle
neat sable
#

Ngl tomorrow I think instead of this, the showcase will be something different, Iā€™m not sure though, lol

frozen shuttle
#

Just did a conversion

frozen shuttle
grave cave
frozen shuttle
woven jolt
covert knoll
#

Guyss!!!!!

#

Well supposedly dark ages date was leaked and it's gonna be on May 15th and that's literally a day away from my birthday, my birthday is on May 16th. It's gonna be the best birthday ever fr fr šŸ˜

woven jolt
#

nice

plucky plinth
neat sable
coarse meadow
covert knoll
covert knoll
covert knoll
#

Idk wut ur talking about lol but I'm js saying it bc it's gonna be a lit birthday lol

plucky plinth
safe ice
#

woke up really early thinking the xbox direct would be at 6am

#

turns out it'll start at 9pm

covert knoll
#

Okay well it's on a website that says it's supposedly been leaked

#

Just search up on google "Doom: The Dark Ages"

covert knoll
plucky plinth
#

I just don't naturally trust leaks, anyone can say whatever they want is a "leak"

covert knoll
#

Yeah ik just saying

plucky plinth
#

like if the "leak" is actually a leak, I'll be pleasantly surprised

covert knoll
#

Lol

safe ice
#

guys I have now leaked that master chief will be in doom the dark ages and he will work with doomguy to kill a big evil force

#

trust me bro

covert knoll
#

šŸ’€ blud

proud bramble
#

How much got leaked?

safe ice
#

nothing got leaked

slender onyx
#

tomorrow's the big day yall

winter idol
#

its a rumor considering a non english website posted something early and then took it down

coarse meadow
covert knoll
#

Gamekult

#

But I don't believe in it or take it seriously but still if it is on that day then my birthday is gonna be lit

small bobcat
#

New trailer soon?

lapis storm
#

tomorrow

#

thereā€™s gonna be a showcase of the game

small bobcat
#

Sign me up

lapis storm
#

they will most likely show five to ten minutes of gameplay from the main campaign and show multiplayer trailers along with a second trailer for the main campaign

small bobcat
#

Most thing I like doom is campaign

daring flax
sonic turret
sonic turret
lapis storm
#

i know

#

I was talking about how they may show a second trailer tomorrow

#

along with the gameplay footage

sonic turret
lapis storm
#

usually they show the trailer at the start of the showcase

#

thatā€™s at least what they did with doom eternal and doom 2016

obsidian shard
#

No Multiplayer imo, probably a Co-op

simple lintel
lapis storm
#

no but Iā€™m sure they will have a multiplayer

simple lintel
#

I sure hope it's like 2016, battle mode was eh

daring flax
simple lintel
#

Or co-op campaign

storm shadow
#

I really hope either deathmatch or co-op is included, thereā€™s literally a civil war happening alongside a hell invasion so it would make sense lore wise.

odd kelp
#

Hey, what do you think, will the slayer continue to mistreat the one who gives him the upgrades for his weapons in this new game or not?

storm shadow
#

Prob not unless they fly away from him like dickheads the same way they did in 2016.

arctic pagoda
#

Da mooooon

sonic turret
daring flax
#

Oh sick

sonic turret
daring flax
#

Yeah Iā€™ve got a ps5 my self, canā€™t wait to play on ps5

sonic turret
neon perch
#

12h to go.

daring flax
grave cave
#

I CANT CONTAIN MYSELF

tribal lagoon
#

Now itā€™s 11 hours

strange path
#

Now itā€™sā€¦ 11 hours still but 3 less minutes than the last guy said

royal reef
#

I cannot find&download Doom The Dark Ages

#

someone help me

plucky plinth
#

Hell, there hasnā€™t even been an (officially) announced release date

royal reef
plucky plinth
#

Thatā€™s just the year, nothing more

#

We donā€™t got a month or day yet

#

and I am very much skeptical on that ā€œleakā€ that came from some random website

royal reef
#

šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

heady jacinth
#

Hopefully they'll give us a release date when the game is... yknow... done lol
Ready to go out on the shelves

storm shadow
heady jacinth
#

No I think videogames should never be released šŸ˜Š

proud bramble
#

Then I guess video game development should be prohibited. šŸ¤·šŸ¾ā€ā™‚ļø

mellow yew
#

Looks great tbh Iā€™m excited for the official reveal and ofc the editions

midnight marsh
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we don't talk about this here.

mellow yew
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Oh sorry

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Forgot itā€™s the official discord šŸ’€

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Anyway, excited for the Showcase!

midnight marsh
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you should be

grave cave
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So close yet so far

safe ice
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I almost cant wait for it

boreal locust
misty beacon
misty beacon
heady jacinth
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sorry they only made one copy and I won it in a raffle

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it'll be delivered to my house in three days

broken plinth
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Im pretty sure doom the dark ages is like doom 2016 and Dark souls had a baby the guns doom 2016 but mediaeval and the melees definitely dark souls like melees

ebon shale
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Yeah you can shield and parry now. And Bonfires are going to be Checkpoints lmao

mossy juniper
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6 hourssss

celest sun
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I ready to rip, tear, saw, hack, cleave, , , , ,

real frost
frozen shuttle
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I canā€™t wait for the developers direct

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We r so close

inland beacon
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Place your bets now. Do you think the hud face rumors are true

hard thistle
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true

graceful lion
inland beacon
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The rumors that the hud face will return in dark ages

royal reef
harsh egret
graceful lion
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would make it feel a bit weird since the game is so high fidelity, and humans have a natural sense to look at other humans

winter idol
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early hud designs almost never make it to the final game

graceful lion
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including more stuff for TDA

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potential release date, minimum reqs, etc

winter idol
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probably no specs until closer to launch

keen olive
vagrant path
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Good thing I got the xbox series x

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shit will BLAZE through dark ages in terms of performance, just like 2016 and eternal

placid saffron
graceful lion
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definitely not a soulslike, thats for sure

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doesnt seem like weapons have any chargeups, you can argue that the chainsaw shield is one tho

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ooh what if the chainsaw shield WAS the way to get ammo

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like throwing it like a boomerang

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which would make sense why theres tons of open areas in every direction

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i wonder if the skullcrusher or the shield chainsaw will be the counterparts for the blood punch/chainsaw

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or if they just are the counter parts

placid saffron
graceful lion
placid saffron
graceful lion
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maybe something akin to the many upgrades in 2016 that made your weapons let you move the same speed

grave cave
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LESS THEN 6hrs!!!

storm fiber
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what if i skipped my physics class today just to watch the developer direct

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šŸ§Œ

jolly relic
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Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if they could put TDA in the switch 2

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They ported DE on the switch

summer summit
jolly relic
summer summit
safe ice
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just 2 hours until it starts

grave cave
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2 hours?

safe ice
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yeah

winter idol
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3 hours

safe ice
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but the youtube thing says 2 hours

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and it says it starts at 8pm for me (its like 6pm rn)

winter idol
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i think it rounds down at 59 minutes

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cause its definitly at 1pm for me and its 10am for me now

safe ice
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thats odd

winter idol
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yea so 2 hours and 50 minutes

sterile sage
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What is the order of introduction of the game?

grave cave
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No idea

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But I can't sleep, it's 1:24am and it's on at 4am

glad hinge
tulip canyon
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Whatā€™s thatā€™s multiplayer be like for The Dark Ages?

winter idol
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no one knows

fading kelp
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1pm eastern time

safe ice
patent glen
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How long until the developer direct starts?

hard thistle
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Two hours and fifteen minutes, I believe.

patent glen
winter idol
arctic pagoda
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For me it's 2:11

grim cloud
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is today the day!?

mossy pelican
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Ye

grim cloud
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esp since bethesda has to load ads into their ads

winter idol
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the opposite for me, twitch never works for me

grim cloud
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that means i have to watch adds again

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strange

winter idol
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i just use ad blocker for youtube

grim cloud
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ill try it see how it goes

arctic pagoda
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Yee

grim cloud
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time to rewatch the older showcases

arctic pagoda
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Good

static oxide
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Do we know what will they show?

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I mean a trailer and anything else?

arctic pagoda
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Apparently gameplay

mossy pelican
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Itā€™s supposedly going to be a ā€œdeep diveā€

arctic pagoda
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Gomploy

haughty idol
grim cloud
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DOOM: Bethesda E3 Showcase Gameplay Reveal - this is a classic

haughty idol
grim cloud
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2016 DM needed improvements but it was still very fun. I got the slayer skin

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but during beta, the dev team (who wans't id) didn't consider the feedback

latent fractal
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