the-dark-ages

[obsidian shard]

Have y'all seen the statue at Gamescom, it SOOO GOOD

[hard thistle]

I did! I'm even more hyped

[obsidian shard]

I'm too hyped if it's possible.

[scenic lichen]

was there anything at gamescon at all

i just woke up

[obsidian shard]

Just a statue

I cool asf statue

[scenic lichen]

pic anywhere?

[terse basin]

:c

[obsidian shard]

I sent. A dm

We will probably get something on friday

[honest vortex]

2016 guns look and sound like beefy heavy metallic monsters.

Only really PSX/64's guns compared to 2016 from the classic DOOMs

[hard thistle]

God 64's SSG sound... mm!

[obsidian shard]

Hoping I get it tomorrow for my Bday 🥳

[hard thistle]

Nice hope you get it

[obsidian shard]

Thanks

[terse basin]

translate "The cooks pouch" into finnish and play the sound

jk

dont.

[hard thistle]

???

[terse basin]

i warn u its not good

[dense gazelle]

Have u seen a full picture with the background?

[slender night]

Stop being a fucking weirdo and misusing this channel

[terse basin]

I jked tho

[slender night]

You were sooo apologetic for making sexual innuendos yesterday, even balancing on sexual harassment, and now you pull this shit?

[slender night]

Stop. For your own good, stop. I have all the reason I need to request a mute on you.

[terse basin]

Don't bring that up..

[hard thistle]

[terse basin]

How long mute?

[slender night]

Then stop being weird. You can't go one day without bringing up dicks? Get help. You have mentioned you cannot control yourself. Seek help. Get better. But for now, stop. Just stop.

[terse basin]

ok fine

im sorry

[slender night]

Indxgo, don't respond

This is gonna get dragged to the ground

It's best for everyone to let it go in the past. But you, Fear, better change, this channel has been a hell since yesterday because of you

I'm out

[terse basin]

isnt doom alr hell?

lol

Did he leave the server

[slender night]

Nobody here left

[hard thistle]

Dark Ages huh
Hope the Unmaker comes back

[terse basin]

Why do u keep changing ur pfp from a caco to a pain elemental

[slender night]

I am not changing it, it's an issue with mobile Discord

[terse basin]

oh.

[obsidian shard]

Hell yes, hopefully a wee better than doom eternals, but it was good in TAG 1 and 2

[obsidian shard]

Nah it's a dog

[terse basin]

..

how

[slender night]

Well that's the Unmaykr, the Unmaker is the one from D64

[obsidian shard]

I know the one in 64 was so fun and exploring for the Demon Keys to "upgrade it"

[slender night]

I hope they do something similiar

Using Slayer Keys to get the Unmaykr was fun, but it'd be cool if you used them to upgrade it

[terse basin]

gun

vega im not doin any

Uh

why the chat so dead

[scenic lichen]

hopefully its actually a good weapon

unmaker in doom 64 was awesome

[hard thistle]

And overpowered (fully intended)

[obsidian shard]

The unamakyr isn't bad, it's just not the BFG therefore it's bad, it's good in The Ancient Gods tho

[scenic lichen]

what does the unmaykr do better in TAG

[obsidian shard]

Since there's a lack of BFG ammo around the map you really need to conserve it and kill the heavier demons, ice bomb and Unmakyr are really good for that.

[scenic lichen]

never tried it but i shouldve yesterday

i went thru tag1 and tag2 UN

tag1 UN took me 3 tries

thanks to samur's last phase

[obsidian shard]

It's soo good and soo hard

[scenic lichen]

How likely do we think it is that dark ages will open with the battle of taras nabad ?

[obsidian shard]

Oh good question

Idk

[haughty totem]

are all the weapons going to be one handed?

[sleek quail]

My guess probably we can switch between classic mode or go like BJ Blazkowickz akimbo guns blazing

[dense gazelle]

That's what I thought when I saw they had 2 skull crusher at the quakecon photo wall

But I heard Hugo said u have the shield all the time in the hand

[next coral]

I just had a thought, what if instead of starting off with a pistol or shotgun, we start off with only the shield

[lusty shale]

hugo said we get it right at the beginning

[next coral]

So we actually do get to start off with only the shield?

[dense gazelle]

Is this so important?

[wheat sigil]

do you want to be limited to the shield only?

[next coral]

I feel like you’re misunderstanding me, all I said is what if we STARTED with just the shield then get a weapon instead of starting with a pistol or shotgun. It would be an Interesting way of introducing its mechanics.

[wheat sigil]

Oh alright, fair enough

[hard thistle]

I hope you can still have the weapons in the classic doom pose

[dense gazelle]

Sure it fits the setting more but u can't beat the double chainsaw from doom64

Also for the Meathook

[proud vine]

losing the meathook is gonna be painfull ngl

[runic geyser]

Is there anything new to the dark ages

[sleek quail]

Nothing

Just an awesome statue of Doomguy at gamescom

[elder raven]

there is still hope

[warped monolith]

maybe they'll show the game tomorrow?

[hard thistle]

Surely they wouldn't bring a statue but no game?

[honest vortex]

Don't think so

[vague basin]

Or they will do similar bs thing like on the Quakecon. Shut down the live stream and only show it to those who are there in person. Idk if there even is a live stream scheduled

[reef ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/hope-gif-19238353

[hard thistle]

They can't keep doing this man fuck 😪

[fleet kite]

Yo

[crude socket]

dark ages looks awesome but i’m kinda confused about it being a prequel to 2016
like isn’t doom 64 already a 2016 prequel

did more research and I think i get it now actually

[dense gazelle]

Imagine there's only a statue while Indiana crap gets all the attention 🙄

[hard thistle]

Indiana Jones actually deserves attention, that's coming out this year. The Dark Ages probably isn't coming until late next year, it doesn't need to be the center spotlight yet.

[dense gazelle]

Was doom ever a center spotlight title? Think not

[hard thistle]

Then why should it be now

[dense gazelle]

True, Doom never was a mainstream game

There's no gibbing demons in Indiana jones

[placid saffron]

huh?

OG doom, doom 2016 where 100%, and eternal outsold 2016...

[slender night]

People mad that another well-awaited game is getting recognition is hilarious to me

We just had QuakeCon, stop pissing yourself over other game conventions showing off other stuff

[placid saffron]

it's almost a wonder quakecon even still exists, considering it's owned by zenimax AND microsoft above that lol

you'd expect it to be rolled in with them by now

[slender night]

Wasn't DOOM 3 also more hyped than Half-Life 2? I'd call that mainstream

[placid saffron]

idk about doom3 that's why i didn't listen it, not because it wasn't mainstream
i just don't have info on it

[grim cloud]

i wish i paid more attention at the QC demo, but yes right now he is just using it in his right hand

Fists

lol i dunno, i love them all

Maybe the Unmaykr gets more attention over the BFG, if there is even a BFG

There is a Mac and a Flail as well. So gimme a Axe!

[limpid geyser]

we could be seeing how the slayer got all the coins to permanently kill the priests.

[placid saffron]

you can literally see it in the trailer so most likely

[limpid geyser]

Super shotgun is going to come back as a 1 handed. I do beleive you will be able to have different builds of it as well.

[silver oriole]

Dual wield ssg would be sick

[reef ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-slayer-hello-chat-gif-13411494019148306508

[thick moth]

Feels so good to be back

i havent played DOOM since i finished the Eternal DLCs like idk 3-4 years ago or smth

[toxic orbit]

How many yall gonna get the dark ages day one?

[thick moth]

well me

i played Doom Eternal on my PS4 like 4 years ago

im now on the PS5 and i loved Eternal so much i played the full main story and both dlcs on ps4

so dark ages is gonna be day one for me

[toxic orbit]

Ill probably get it day one cuz my gamepass

But yeah im really excited for it

[thick moth]

PS5 for me cuz adaptive triggers are peak

[slender night]

Xbox for me because BC

[toxic orbit]

Fair but i could pair my ps5 controller to it

[toxic orbit]

BC?

[slender night]

Backwards compatibility

[toxic orbit]

Ah

Ngl backwards compatibility aint my biggest thing i just like playing on OG hardware

It really gives me the nostalgia

[slender night]

That's fair but it is handy

[thick moth]

DOOM The Dark Ages and Indiana Jones both coming out on PS5 lowkey insane

[toxic orbit]

It sure is just i dont play older games enough to make it valuable

[thick moth]

i mean even if doom was xbox exclusive i do have a series x but its nice i can play it on ps5

[toxic orbit]

It does support haptic triggers right? Cuz not all games i think require to use it

[thick moth]

eternal does

so its a no brainer dark ages will do as well

[toxic orbit]

Ah then okay i never played eternal on ps5 so didnt know

[rigid beacon]

What the hell have we been talking about ere'?

[cedar cloud]

I would if I could, but I probably won't be able to

[rich solstice]

Agreed

[half plaza]

i saw a video that explained that at this point Microsoft/Xbox is more of a game publisher now than a console maker

naturally they're going to favour their own consoles but it's bad business for them to only sell to the console that massively undersells their competitor

[summer summit]

Yeah, Microsoft is pretty much desperate at this point.

Why else would they buy up Mojang, Zenimax Media, and Activision Blizzard?

[half plaza]

i wouldn't jump to that conclusion

i'd say they're just changing how they operate

they wouldn't blow so much fucking money if they didn't have any to spend

[toxic orbit]

Gamepass sells like hotcakes so like its understandable wanna make it cheaper for them to run it

And adding more publishers means more content for existing subscribers get so they continue to use it and then new subscribers will wanna join cuz the large variety of games they got from big studios all in one bundle subscription so it makes sense Microsoft/xbox more a publisher now

[prime sentinel]

They’re so desperate they seemingly have a bottomless pit of money to buy developers and publishers with

From the jump Microsoft has been about buying into the games industry, I don’t think they’re desperate haha

[vestal dagger]

I would consider avoiding the sunken cost fallacy (into hardware exclusivity) a pretty sensible move really.

[frosty spear]

Who’s ready for a Dark Age reveal at Gamescom???

I AM

[prime sentinel]

lol is that what's happening?

I hope so because I want to see more but I am doubtful

[frosty spear]

I’m not sure, they haven’t really announced it, but they’re heavily hinting at it

I wish they could at least show the QuakeCon gameplay to the public, it looked way too good to be kept behind closed doors

[prime sentinel]

I say: if they aren’t ready to share it with the public they aren’t ready

We are a ways off from release

Let them cook

[honest patrol]

When is that

[frosty spear]

Nothing was confirmed, purely speculation

[honest patrol]

2025 has so much potential

Borderlands 4,dying light the beast,grand theft auto 6 and doom the dark ages

[scenic lichen]

hopefully silksong too

😭

[outer onyx]

that game is not real man

also imagine if silksong is trash lol, nobody will ever take team cherry seriously if that happens

[scenic lichen]

sad ending

[honest patrol]

They might cook tho

[outer onyx]

im already lowering the score of their game by 3 for having total radio silence for a long ass time.

[scenic lichen]

i understand they're taking their time to make the game as best as it could be but the lack of updates is just bothering

[outer onyx]

i also understand, but its been 5 years and we dont have info that matches that amount of time spent.

[honest patrol]

In 5 more years what will you have left

[outer onyx]

probably a family, at that point i might not even be playing video games anymore

[honest patrol]

🫵

[dense gazelle]

Just got back from gamescom

They have mini shield saws away

[hard thistle]

Bad take

[dense gazelle]

I have seen a gamepass trailer from dark ages at Gamescom that might include 1 second new footage but can't tell, could have also been another game, was super fast cut

Some purple portal and 3 king like persons

[dark peak]

yup the eternal one would be nice too i prefer it

[gray sigil]

Is this game more like the og doom games? I am a huge fan of og doom I prefer the slower more grounded gameplay of those

[prime sentinel]

I suspect its going to be slower than classic doom in terms of movement speed

eternal's base movement speed is slower than classic doom, it just feels like a faster game due to the amount of actions per minute relative to classic doom

to answer your question I believe that wording is exactly how hugo described the dark ages

less air combat, more projectile dodging

iirc they said that the combat is rebuilt from the ground up to reflect their most recent assessment of classic doom, trying to capture aspects of it that 2016 and eternal didn't

[dark peak]

so excited to play touhou this gonna be awesome

[prime sentinel]

yes

[dark peak]

and i gonna say og doom was more touhou even because 2D movement, too bad there is hitscanners

[gray sigil]

what about like glory kills?

is that gonna be in tda?

[prime sentinel]

I mean its not quite 2D movement

since it still has 3 axis

[prime sentinel]

not really but kinda

from what we know

[dark peak]

at least i combat, you are no capable to move in z axis

[prime sentinel]

ah unless you jump from a ledge 😄

[gray sigil]

how?

how is it only kinda

[prime sentinel]

basically resources will be reaped in a similar way using melee combat, though it appears they wont be synced animations, rather it will be just using your different melee weapons on monsters to recieve different resources

at least that's what I heard from people that went to quakecon

[dark peak]

thats for sure!!

[prime sentinel]

if they're still there, they will likely not function the same at all

[dark peak]

there is dash?

[prime sentinel]

Hugo said they rebuilt combat from the ground up, completely different philosophy

[prime sentinel]

you can charge with the chain shield in DDA

but it isn't as instantaneous as the dash from the looks of it

(this is all speculation, we don't know for sure, this is going off of what we've seen and what they've said in interviews)

[gray sigil]

someone said that its gonna be like you dont get locked in a glory kill animation you're just able to break off different body parts with different weapons to get stuff

[dark peak]

no jumps please

[prime sentinel]

that was my theory when I saw the first trailer actually haha

[dark peak]

maybe just air attack form a ledge like dark souls

[prime sentinel]

apparently vertical movement is associated with the shield, so you can throw a shield and then the slayer jumps to it

[dark peak]

no jumps + platforming = a win forme

[prime sentinel]

one of my crackpot theories since the beginning is that there's no dedicated jump button, similarly to how eternal removed crouching

[prime sentinel]

shield puzzles will prolly be a thing 🙂

Hugo said something to the effect of "the dark ages will return to strafe to aim"

which is a very classic doom thing

[empty furnace]

the final boss of doom TDA is the pee pee poo poo man

[prime sentinel]

there's a few interviews out there you should watch if you're interested, guys

DDA seems like a bold departure from the other NU DOOMs

I'm very excited to see it

(I suspect Eternal die hards will not be happy, or at least people that are expecting Eternal 2, just like people who just wanted 2016 again when Eternal came out)

dragon looks nice, I'm more interested in how they transform the base gameplay personally 🙂

[dark peak]

Imagine if they have been working on the game for this long just for a mod portal on day one.

[prime sentinel]

boss, I don't think that's gonna happen

just the amount of time it takes to make that stuff accessible to the masses seems like a whole seperate project in itself

[dark peak]

0% of probabilities 100% of faith

mod portal day one guys

[prime sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3KftOn8YdE

got a lot of my information from this interview in particular

[wheat sigil]

im not really unhappy with TDA

[silver oriole]

The big ship we see doomguy drop out of in the trailer might be a hub world im guessing

[prime sentinel]

wonder if there will be a hub tbh

I think this might be level to level again

instead of the hub

[silver oriole]

I want hub again but more stuff to do

[prime sentinel]

I feel like for the tone this game is going for a goofy video game ass hub world with cute easter eggs wouldn't fit

and if its not goofy then what's the point of a hub?

from what I understand this is when the slayer was just kind of the sentinel's weapon

[dark peak]

we already have plenty of eternal lol

[dense gazelle]

Btw equipment launcher is back

Dude that gave me the shield saw pin said it

[dark peak]

how?

[prime sentinel]

but what will the equipment be

[dark peak]

nah no equiptment

[dense gazelle]

Thought the tarot shirt shows the mace on back

[prime sentinel]

they should make the equipment little castlevania axes and crosses and stuff haha

makyr water

[silver oriole]

I think we might get an axe

Like marauders

[prime sentinel]

I think someone mentioned that the chain shield has a meter?

boy I wish we had more footage haha

I really want to see what the HUD face looks like

[outer onyx]

someone made an art rendition of it

[prime sentinel]

I've seen the mock ups

[outer onyx]

ah

[prime sentinel]

I'm a big fan of how its structured a bit like the old school status bar

[dense gazelle]

Would be hard

Egg boy

Watch lavaniel YT quakecon vid

[prime sentinel]

alrighty

[dense gazelle]

There is a lot of info

Even an ms paint memory hud

[dark peak]

you guys think you will lose you weapons after dead in this game too?

[prime sentinel]

doubt it

[dark peak]

like doom 93

[prime sentinel]

though, doom eternal had a "classic mode" for some maps that kinda did that

so maybe classic mode will return

(I would be okay with that)

[dark peak]

👎

[prime sentinel]

I mean think about it

you can't save on command in new doom games

they're checkpoint based

so it would be really bizarre to implement inventory loss in a game structured like that

I would not go in expecting it to play just like classic doom lol

but who knows, truthfully

[dark peak]

no balls then

[prime sentinel]

😔

just wish we had more footage, I've seen the trailer so many times

I'm interested in what the UAC bases look like in this

also: new themes, I want to see some settings we haven't seen before

[dark peak]

pls no open world

[wheat sigil]

Yea

[silver oriole]

Open world with towers you need to climb up to open parts of the map plus 10+ collectibles that do nothing

[prime sentinel]

been confirmed its not open world

[dark peak]

open world is an instant
🛌

[prime sentinel]

just really big ass levels

more exploration based (like classic doom)

[silver oriole]

red keycard flashbacks

[wheat sigil]

I explored 0 in classic doom lol, I just took the easiest path that led to more demons

[prime sentinel]

well, it depends on the level designer really

[dark peak]

explore is cool when you find weapons and ammo

[prime sentinel]

but there is definitely more backtracking and exploration in classic doom

as compared to Eternal, which has exploration but its more like, tiny side paths that lead to secrets

nothing wrong with that for the record

hope there's lots of side areas with optional encounters

and you can get weapons early like in Doom 2016

[outer onyx]

honestly i dont think i ever picked up a weapon not early in 2016

[prime sentinel]

really? you can get the plasma gun in like the second level

if you find all the secrets you get lots of weapons earlier than usual

[outer onyx]

re read the message

[prime sentinel]

ohhh

lmao

[outer onyx]

i have 0 clue where the plasma gun is actually supposed to be picked up lmao

i only know of the secret

[prime sentinel]

I don't remember, last playthrough I did was a 100 percent run

[dark peak]

how is that even a secret in first place?

[prime sentinel]

how is what a secret?

[dark peak]

get plasma early

[prime sentinel]

you find a secret area, and it gives you the plasma gun

so you get the weapon earlier than you would otherwise

[dark peak]

well it would be a secret because is optional

[prime sentinel]

it is optional

[dark peak]

i mean is just too easy to find

[prime sentinel]

I don't recall getting it on my first playthrough :p

there are tons of really obvious secrets in the old games, its just following tradition if you want to look at it like that

[ebon shale]

The plasma behind the elevator is one of the best hidden secrets in 2016 imo lol

I found it on my first run but only after wandering around the area for half an hour after I had already cleared everything.

[silver oriole]

literally the first time im hearing this 💀

[prime sentinel]

One of the things that made that game so refreshing when it came out

One thing I really adore about new id is that they are reverent for the past but they are also forward looking, innovating in fps design in ways other studios just aren’t, while also not forgetting their legacy

[dark peak]

my only hope for this game is balls

i just expect that

[prime sentinel]

Balls….y game design?

[dark peak]

a game with confidence

[placid saffron]

tf is that even supposed to mean

[prime sentinel]

Probably just that it’s a game that knows what it is and what it wants to be

And does things strictly to accomplish that despite potentially alienating some fans

[dark peak]

I don't like it when games betray their proposals and ideas just to try not to make the player feel uncomfortable.

[outer onyx]

That makes sense

…ronin could have worded it way better tho.

[dark peak]

I don't like condescending games

[prime sentinel]

Eternal is very much that

[outer onyx]

Yeh I know

[prime sentinel]

😄

Gotta appreciate that approach, not that it’s the only way to do it

[oak ridge]

Do you think we get some news at gamescom?

[prime sentinel]

So close to getting no news at quakecon? Idk we can only speculate I suppose

I would really like that but I’m not convinced

[dark peak]

i just want to see a real gameplay

[silver oriole]

Next doom should be a rhythm game

[prime sentinel]

Sure why not

[dark peak]

next doom will be a gacha game

[prime sentinel]

Not as hot on that idea lol

It could be like… different guns you collect?

[silver oriole]

Cooking game

[dark peak]

😂 😂

[prime sentinel]

The doom griller

[silver oriole]

Slayer's Kitchen of Doom

[prime sentinel]

Caco cupcakes

Baron burgers

Pain Elemental Pizza

Maybe after he saves the earth the slayer gets a part time job at the restaurant from arc complex

Interesting floor plan, that restaurant

[sleek quail]

So nothing was shown.

[winter idol]

yup

10 more months

[sleek quail]

The only thing was the new statue of Doomguy.

[winter idol]

which is odd to have if you arent even going to so much as mention it there

Very soon = 10 months it seems

[sleek quail]

Yeah, there's a last stream but it only says on the bethesda side only gameplay for classic Doom.

[winter idol]

if they were going to show a new trailer, it would have been during ONL anyway

[sleek quail]

I better trust the Slayer's Club when they announce something.

[outer onyx]

or they drop a random trailer on a random day

you never know

[winter idol]

from 2018 quake con to 2019 summer games fest, there was no doom eternal news despite them saying more coming "very soon"

[outer onyx]

fair enough, but again, you never know

[winter idol]

seems to be in pre alpha stage so I honestly doubt we will get anything until summer next year

[sleek quail]

Mark my words. The Dark Ages will release 2026.

[winter idol]

earliest november 2025

[lusty shale]

or game awards

[hard thistle]

Has anyone at gamescom been able to take a good nearly 360 video of the Slayer statue? I know is basically impossible to take pictures from the back

Or like a profile picture, or something that shows a bit of the back part of the helmet. PLEASE

[hard thistle]

You guys think we'll get another "Rip and Tear, until it is done" quote?

[sleek quail]

Probably it would be before the mission to destroy Nekravol. Novik gives only you that quote.

[dense gazelle]

Crew dude told me the equipment launcher felt off the statue when shipping. Whole thing was made in Poland, that's why it hasn't been in Texas.

[reef ocean]

Would be nice to hear it prior to the slayer being launched. Like from here.

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-slayer-hello-chat-gif-13411494019148306508

[next coral]

Idk if this would be considered lazy but I think it would be really cool and fitting. If they took that slayer testament from 2016 that says “in the first age, in the first battle…” and has that in the beginning while the mark of the slayer is slowly being drawn like in the past two doom games

[prime sentinel]

yeah and the intro for the first level should be E1M1 lmao

[kindred inlet]

fr

[half plaza]

Argent Facility super shotgun secret 😍

[sleek quail]

So in the end there was nothing but the statue in the last day of gamescom

And the equipment launcher is back.

[winter idol]

yup lmao

[placid saffron]

i mean the alternative is no equipment

[ebon shale]

doesnt really make sense to me that he has the equipment launcher in tda and eternal, but not 2016.

[placid saffron]

because it wasn't thought of for the gameplay yet

[dark peak]

equipment launcher? nah

they not going to add it

[ebon shale]

but apparently it was supposed to be on the gamescom statue. Why would they put it on there if you cant have it in the game

[sleek quail]

A staff member of gamescom confirmed it by someone who asked about the statue

[hard thistle]

.

[prime sentinel]

All of the new dooms have grenades

And the equipment launcher just makes sense since you don’t have to put down your guns to use a grenade

So even if the grenades are different, I can definitely see it coming back

[next coral]

Makes even more sense in dark ages since you have a weapon in both hands now

[spark jetty]

snapmap 2 🙏

[thorny yarrow]

Bigest thing I definitely want to see if it happens in the events of the Dark Ages or more likely its DLC is receiving the "Sheild" spoken about in the 2016 lore given to the Slayer by the Wretch.

[rough fable]

thats actually really fitting to the game itself

[dark peak]

What will the equipment launcher shoot this time? i don't think ice bombs.

[silent surge]

this, it would fit

[thorny yarrow]

I would not doubt that this is what they are planning, or something like it.

[lucid tide]

The heck is happening here

[hard thistle]

Please god dont let this game be mid

[plucky vigil]

I hope it won’t be mid 😓

[hard thistle]

It probably won't (I could be coping)

[feral stream]

IM COPING IT INSTANTLY

[hard thistle]

Man I gotta save up for this and Borderlands 4

My poor wallet is gonna be beggin for mercy

[subtle gyro]

Date of dark age?

I wanna play

[silver oriole]

Hope we get can have different skins like eternal

I dont think we'll get the bfg
Something else I think

[hard thistle]

Unmaker

But like in 64

[silver oriole]

Is it really that bad in eternal?

[hard thistle]

Nah it's fucking baller

[cyan lotus]

yes

[full anchor]

Maybe the first version of it

[spark jetty]

bfg 2704 would be insane

[hard thistle]

BFG 11K

[spark jetty]

quake 3 if it was peak

[hard thistle]

Quake 3 is good iirc

Same thing with Quake 4

Every Quake is good idk

[prime sentinel]

I’m pretty sure it’s gonna kick ass

I am going to pre order it

And I don’t usually do that

When it comes to doom, Id refuses to miss

[hard thistle]

Fr

Quake 5 WHEN ID?!

[slender night]

Quake Champions

[hard thistle]

Quake 6?

[slender night]

Was teased, apparently as a joke though

[prime sentinel]

Play dimension of the machine and call of the machine

[hard thistle]

😦

[prime sentinel]

Together that is basically a 10 hour campaign

[hard thistle]

In Quake 1?

[prime sentinel]

And they are both really really high quality work from machine games

Quake 1 and quake 2

[slender night]

I mean yeah but that's like calling Legacy of Rust "DOOM Eternal 2"

[prime sentinel]

Legacy of Rust is doom 7

[slender night]

An entirely new singleplayer Quake would be dope

[prime sentinel]

I would want a survival horror

[slender night]

Haven't had one with a singleplayer mode since 2007

[hard thistle]

I want more Quake man ;-;

[prime sentinel]

Because frankly what would separate doom from quake in the modern age?

I think a new quake would need to be unique in terms of gameplay

[slender night]

Ranger

Ranger's storyline has to be continued, that's all I want

[prime sentinel]

Eh

[hard thistle]

Ranger and Doomguy got similar stuff, both have PTSD from monsters

[prime sentinel]

They’re not very different

[slender night]

Yes they are

[prime sentinel]

I think expanding on the lovecraft and doing more horror would be really cool

[slender night]

On the surface level they are the same, but look into them some more and they have differences

[prime sentinel]

Quake has ostensibly become a multiplayer franchise however

[hard thistle]

Quake 4?

[slender night]

My only real issue is they don't change it up enough

I love Quake III but there's like a million ways to play it

[slender night]

ET:QW had a campaign too

There was a Quake III DS port planned

[prime sentinel]

Quake 4 is nearly two decades old

[hard thistle]

When did it come out?

[slender night]

2005

[hard thistle]

Waow

[prime sentinel]

Quake is a more niche franchise than it was in the 90s, it’s modern representatives being quake live and quake champions

Both good games but not the kind of thing that gets popular anymore

[hard thistle]

Quake is still popular I'd say

[slender night]

Among old fans, sure

It's not getting any new fans from the new games for sure

It used to be id's beloved but now it's their third least popular one outside of Commander Keen and stuff like that

[hard thistle]

I wanna play Commander Keen

[prime sentinel]

Technology was moving so fast in the 90s that Id had a fairly iterative game design approach

Doom is like a way better wolfenstein 3D and Quake is Doom but with polygons and rocket jumping

Nowadays they each need to differentiate in ways other than setting

This is especially true with doom and quake as they have some overlap with space bases and satanic imagery

[prime sentinel]

watching the dark ages trailer again, are these the same barrel models from Eternal?

I also think they may be reused from 2016 as well

I guess if it isn't broke, don't fix it

[stray urchin]

maybe just placeholder assets like the unwilling model

[obsidian shard]

yup

[neon perch]

https://imgur.com/a/3tbuyx0

INB4 this is the last level.

[prime sentinel]

where is this from?

reminds me of 2016 concept art

oh yeah its gotta be

that font is very doom 2016-y

[neon perch]

Was up browsing my Google Drive folders all night and found a buncha stuff I had saved months prior to Doom 2016 coming out. Mostly datamined stuff from the closed Beta and a buncha key art from one of their concept artists.

[prime sentinel]

Nice

[dense gazelle]

There was a big icon of sin skull in background map in 2016 game wasn't it?

The Necropolis is the eleventh level of Doom (2016), the third area of Hell visited by the Doom marine in his quest for the Crucible. The Crucible is also the name of the mission that takes place in this level.

Check out Emerson Tungs Marauder artworks with revolver, would be cool to see it in dtda

[misty beacon]

Thats DOOM 2016 Concept Art @prime sentinel

ur correct

[prime sentinel]

yay!

[fierce owl]

Trailer Doom the dark ages:💎💎💎

[neon perch]

I literally said so in my follow-up comment.

I've a handful of concept art for MP maps and props.

[prime sentinel]

btw who runs this account?

[honest vortex]

I think that is straight up Necropolis concepts but more orange, though looks a bit mixed with Argent D'Nur.

[runic fractal]

are there going to be cheat codes in doom dark-ages

[hard thistle]

Literally no one can answer this

[placid saffron]

what if we pinged ID staff though

[cyan lotus]

hi guys 😁👋 does anybody know if I’m going to have a headache tomorrow? Thanks in advance 😛

[uneven umbra]

you will :/

[stray plover]

You definitely will

[cyan lotus]

ominous

[misty beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/nbmz-banned-shoot-gif-13653390

[hard thistle]

Your headache will be the least of your problems tomorrow.

[stray pollen]

You know something I was kinda confused about the gameplay is that in the trailer we pretty much see doomguy strictly going forward. Hardly any turning for there may be enemies behind you and such. I mean even in the trailer some demons just brush past him without any intent to attack him. I get that it's definitely done as a presentation but I wonder how true gameplay will play out.

[half plaza]

don't read to much into that, those trailers are heavily scripted and we won't know until we see real gameplay

[terse basin]

i am beating TAG1 on nightmare rn

just beat the blood swamps

and i had to deal with a spirited baron...

in The Holt i need to deal with a Spirited Tyrant since i remember with my past runs

[stray pollen]

Ah you're right I'm probably overthinking it. And besides the quakecon stories of the footage sounded very exciting so we'll see.

[half plaza]

I just want them to reveal one of those 20 minute gameplay showcases that i can watch a bajillion times over

[terse basin]

A bajillion... That would be your entire lifetime.. so dont watch it THAT MANY TIMES!

[half plaza]

...

[cyan lotus]

I can’t tell if this account is playing a character or not when they talk

Your first message on this server ever was hopping on my dick

[half plaza]

Yeah i forget sometimes that i'm on the internet with everybody

[round aspen]

I'm too damn excited for the lever action ssg I need that directly into my veins atm

[half plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-arnold-schwarzenegger-arnold-schwarzenegger-t800-gif-26567529

[round aspen]

Doomguy status

[inner wigeon]

Me and my shield-chainsaw hybrid

[neon perch]

Vriska has one of those?

[cyan lotus]

what?

[neon perch]

I'm sorry I thought your pfp was Homestuck.

[cyan lotus]

It is but it’s not vriska

also a segway into my pfp that caught me off guard

[neon perch]

a.

I tried getting into HS. It's way too messy and contrived for my little brain to wrap around.

[hard thistle]

I've read it a few times. It's good.

[verbal pasture]

is dark ages releasing in 2025?

[cyan lotus]

that’s what it says in the trailer yes, could be susceptible to a delay but until otherwise is stated, it’s safe to assume

[chrome hearth]

Have yall played Into the pit?

Oop sorry wrong server

[grim cloud]

potentially. At gamescon they affirmed it again

It will likely be a fall 2025 release. If we dont see a release date at TGA or the January Dev direct, it will most likely be late second half

[verbal pasture]

cool

[proud vine]

yeah i played that

[idle swallow]

how much more resource-intensive you guys think Dark Ages will be compared to Eternal?

the gameplay videos don't show much differences in graphical quality

[tribal lagoon]

I mean style wise it looks like it’ll be a grittier game I’m getting a more gothic feel from some of the weapon and demon designs

[idle swallow]

I was talking about how much more demanding the game will be compared to Eternal

[idle swallow]

uh...

I was talking about, you know, how much powerful system requirements it will have compared to Eternal

it's not hard to understand

[hard thistle]

WOOOOOOO FUCK YEAHHHH

[hard thistle]

Yo

[rigid beacon]

Eh, I run eternal at 120 fps at Ultra-Nightmare graphics (with ray-tracing)

[prime sentinel]

nice

I need a new pc, I want to do the dark ages at 2k 165 fps

[silver oriole]

I want to be able to run it at 5 frames a second

[dense gazelle]

Wonder how much more demanding it will be

Played Eternal with an 1070, now have a 3070

[grim cloud]

you should be fine with a 3 series, its still idtech 7

[prime sentinel]

thought it was going to be idtech 8?

[grim cloud]

nope i dont think so, it is a advanced verions of idtech 7. Far as i know, idtech 8 still being created. Which game they will showcase on taht is anyones guess

[prime sentinel]

where does this info come from?

[grim cloud]

my friends uncle's step-fathers former roomate use to know someone who worked at iD

[prime sentinel]

thought the fact they could display so many AI on screen at once without performance hits was because it was a new engine?

[floral shore]

Hope you’re right because I don’t want to upgrade my gpu for one game

[worn cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/fernan-gif-18355279

[finite mirage]

every single text yall sending i literally dont understand aynthing how DO YALL KNOW WHAT IDTECH MEANS

[finite mirage]

yes

[slender night]

id Tech = series of engines created by id that are licensed out to other Bethesda devs, or turned open source

[prime sentinel]

other bethesda devs: machinegames and no one else

(tango used it)

[slender night]

Well it's not a Bethesda dev but you also had Raven Software

[prime sentinel]

oh yeahhh I was thinking more modern iterations

but that is true

[slender night]

Wolf2 was solid, haven't played Quake 4 yet though

Or any of the Heretic/Hexen games

[hard thistle]

Dark ages is ID tech 8. New game gets updated tech with new number. Also there is a studio in Germany that sole focas is updating engine with new stuff. Most of the original team came from Crytek :).

[finite mirage]

ohhhhh aight thx

[dense gazelle]

Sure it's new engine since u can dismember the enemies much more now

[keen gulch]

Omg I can’t wait for this game this game looks so cool

[upper mauve]

i think demons will still live even after dismemberment

super shotgun knocked off a mancubus arm so maybe its still alive

[dense gazelle]

Hope so

But I doubt it will be as good as dead island 2 gore mechanics

[tribal lagoon]

Saw a rumor that was some kind of new weak point system since specifically one of its arm cannons was destroyed by the new ssg

[low musk]

What y’all think the final boss fight for doom the dark ages will be?

[cyan lotus]

not a greenlight enemy hopefully

[low musk]

Meh ok

[soft turret]

Me

[merry sapphire]

it wont matter that much since id software are optimization wizards

i mean obviously its gonna be more demanding since the game will be built upon current gen of consoles n such so at the bare minimum its going to require an ssd on launch

[merry sapphire]

hoping that theres no final boss fight and its just an endless horde fighting with the credits rolling down

[sage heart]

I AM SO READY!

[dry spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/both-agree-yes-good-gif-4591420

[hard thistle]

Sounds cool on paper but having a hundred words scrolling over your screen while you're trying to fight would get old very fast

[prime sentinel]

The words are the demons

[stray plover]

The best idea yet

[glossy glen]

Fighting a boss while the credits roll. Sounds badass.

[dry spruce]

Was thinking more taking down the boss and then the horde

[glossy glen]

That's also good.

[reef ocean]

Kills titan
Gets a whole castle dropped on him.

[hard thistle]

One shotting mancubi and hell knights with the ssg seems

[rich mica]

Fr

[slender night]

RAGE had no final boss and was universally shat on for that, even by the RAGE 2 trailer

[minor light]

What do you guys reckon has been the best doom boss

Going back all the way to classic doom

[tight cipher]

Revamped icon of sin

2 TIMES

[wind rivet]

yo doom will be more manual so harder thats cool

[sonic citrus]

yknow u can just skip that part right/

[hard thistle]

How would you know? It's not even a real thing

[empty furnace]

doom hunters

actually no

hell guards

[maiden ruin]

I hope there’s a harder difficulty than Ultra-Nightmare in The Dark Ages

[prime sentinel]

What?

[maiden ruin]

You heard me

[prime sentinel]

What would it even be?

If you don’t use certain weapons for certain monsters the game force quits

I really like that we’re in the baseless speculation phase of this game because I can say whatever I want and I won’t look stupid for another few months

[wheat sigil]

I hope that instead of ultra nightmare in the form of perma death we get a really hard nightmare

[silver oriole]

Crazy theory guys but I think we might actually see doomguys face

[slender night]

RAGE 1 and 2...

[wheat sigil]

Shurup
I will not be indoctrinated🙅‍♂️

[slender night]

Coward

[wheat sigil]

Probably

[prime sentinel]

wonder if master levels will return

depending on the size of the levels it might not be worth it to remix, but its also a good way to reuse assets in a way that I think most fans are into

[wheat sigil]

Hope so

Will be fun being able to play a game from launch and not getting in over 3 years late

Hope it has interesting combat with a high skill ceiling to go along with it

It's fun really being able to dive into a game

[tranquil moss]

i imagine the demon cap is going to be tripled so we can have absolute chaos in an arena

[prime sentinel]

I have a feeling people expecting another doom eternal are going to be disappointed

I think it will be very good, and I can't wait

[wheat sigil]

It will definitely not be another Eternal, and anyone who has watched the trailer will probably understan that

[winter idol]

ive seen some people expecting it to be still

im definitly glad its not, I wouldnt have enjoyed another eternal

[prime sentinel]

as a huge eternal fan, I want Id to keep making new stuff

Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal are great and imo you can enjoy them seperately

they're going for different things

[wheat sigil]

Naturally yeah

[prime sentinel]

I mean like, NEW stuff, different stuff

I think they're one of the few studios innovating in FPS design

[prime sentinel]

listening to the gamespot interview with Hugo and Marty

again

its interesting they say things like "less strings on the guitar" and "streamlining" it tells me there's just a different approach with this game

[dark peak]

hope the doom og platforming come back in this game

[silver oriole]

I doubt they'll remove jumping

[prime sentinel]

it will at least be deemphasized

they mention in the interview that this game is far less vertical than Eternal

arenas are generally flatter, and the gameplay is more about weaving around projectiles and strafing

[wheat sigil]

Could be interesting

Maybe it would require decent reaction time, as opposed to Eternal

[prime sentinel]

they mentioned slow moving projectiles

and that being hit by one would put you "in big trouble"

I'd really like to see an entire level, or even just a portion of straight gameplay

[wheat sigil]

This I dislike

[prime sentinel]

can't weave around projectiles if they're fast lol

[wheat sigil]

Sometimes when playing Eternal I look around and see tons and tons of fast moving projectiles I have to avoid, which I find really fun

[wheat sigil]

You can, it's just harder

Maybe difficulty should inlfuence projectile speed

[prime sentinel]

not with this movement speed.

[wheat sigil]

I really hope there are movement mechanics

[prime sentinel]

I feel like the more projectiles in play at once, moving slower is actually harder than just a bunch of really fast ones

[remote thunder]

you don't really do that in de though

[wheat sigil]

Like, more than just normal walking

[prime sentinel]

you can dash, but you need the shield

[remote thunder]

yeah you can dash around a few fireballs here and there, but evasion mostly comes from just raw speed and breaking the ai's predictive aim

[prime sentinel]

I'm assuming without the shield you cannot dash

[wheat sigil]

Yea, too little in my opinion

[prime sentinel]

right this looks more like classic doom, where there's always tons of projectiles moving around

and you have to pay attention to where all the enemies are and where their projectiles are going

I don't expect it to be exactly like classic doom, but they do mention in the interview that they felt there are things the modern games didn't really get "right" about classic doom

idk why but hugo keeps mentioning strafe to aim, projectile hell, and streamlining

[silver oriole]

Make the chainsaw into a full weapon again

[prime sentinel]

the chainshield is probably in its place.

[wheat sigil]

I do agree here

[prime sentinel]

that is the chainsaw of this game

at least as far as we know

they really do bring up, a lot, how they built the combat loop for this game from the ground up

and it came from a reassessment of the OG Doom

how true this is, we'll have to see, but from my perspective the gameplay already looks a lot more like the classic titles

(not that I think 2016 or Eternal had to be anything like the classics)

again, if you're interested in what they're going for, I think this interview is pretty informative

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3KftOn8YdE

"maze of projectiles" "three dimensional SHMUP"

[maiden ruin]

Isn’t Ultra-Nightmare Just Nightmare-Permadeath Tho?

[wheat sigil]

It is

But I don't want that, it's boring

[cyan lotus]

this message is kind of funny to read out of context ( maybe even with context )

[slender night]

They should handle UN like they did in RAGE 2

[cyan lotus]

“I really hope there are movement mechanics”
I don’t think you’d be able to move without them yes

[slender night]

Make it a harder NM, and add an optional permadeath mode for it

[wheat sigil]

Sounds good

[wheat sigil]

You know what I meant😭
I knew it looked weird, but i didn't bother fixing it because I'm so tired

[prime sentinel]

why not just make nightmare harder

idk why a new difficulty needs to be added to be even harder than nightmare?

[slender night]

Yeah, isn't Nightmare meant to be THE hard difficulty

[prime sentinel]

well UV was

[slender night]

It's like the New 3DS XL

[cyan lotus]

because it has become unfortunately, a very watered down iteration of what it used to be in the classics

[prime sentinel]

but uhhh now Nightmare is :p

[slender night]

For a few months...

[prime sentinel]

classic doom nightmare is a joke difficulty that people only recently started playing legitimately

[wheat sigil]

Yeah, Nightmare in Eternal is very easy to learn to play on

[cyan lotus]

deathless nightmare campaign on doom 2: insanely difficult
deathless nightmare campaign on doom eternal: pretty much anybody with enough patience is getting this

[wheat sigil]

And this is coming from someone who started on ITYTD

It is not hard to work up to Nightmare at all

[prime sentinel]

well okay, I guess they should just implement a literally unbalanced difficulty then

[wheat sigil]

Which is what UN could've been
Or even better: a really hard difficulty but it isn't unbalanced

[sick path]

E1M3 on Nightmare for me was harder than Eternal on UN💀

[prime sentinel]

if its balanced then people will be able to do it if they have enough patience :p

which by the way, is a good thing

[sick path]

Agreed

[prime sentinel]

doing a deathless eternal nightmare run sounds painful to me I'm ngl

I know there are some cracked gamers out there, but I think Eternal is at the upper limits of what a AAA game can be difficulty wise

like, it will just eventually get into super niche territory

[dark peak]

the touhou vibes.... i love bullet hells this game will be my core

[wheat sigil]

Difficulties exist

[prime sentinel]

how many hours have you put into doom eternal btw?

[wheat sigil]

You could make even minecraft hard with a hard enough difficilty

[wheat sigil]

710

[prime sentinel]

okay, so like, naturally its easy to you now

you've put nearly 1000 hours into it

I think your perspective might be skewed

[wheat sigil]

I started on ITYTD, I know what it's like when the game is hard for you

[prime sentinel]

what I'm saying is now after 1000 hours you're asking for an even harder difficulty

[wheat sigil]

I'm asking for ultra nightmare to be a good difficulty

[prime sentinel]

old nightmare isn't a good difficulty lol

[fringe tangle]

cant wait for this one to release, anyone knows what price will it be?

[wheat sigil]

Nightmare but perma-death is just insanely boring, and a harder difficulty than nightmare would just be way more interesting

[prime sentinel]

I'm gonna guess 70 bucks but we don't know for sure

play the master levels I guess

[dark peak]

you have game pass

[fringe tangle]

all Id do is 60 max, if not 60 then Im waiting for steam sale 😄

[wheat sigil]

Still the same issue: UN super boring

[fringe tangle]

I dont

[prime sentinel]

but they are literally harder versions of the base game? Nightmare master level is harder than NM base game?

[wheat sigil]

Just make it an option you can toggle, if you wanr perma-death or not

Then you can have it for every difficulty
10× better

[prime sentinel]

I mean, that's what you're getting by selecting UNM

that is essentially a check box

[cyan lotus]

yeah like, there’s not really any piece of content, official, fanmade, or otherwise, that is impossible to do an ultra nightmare run of, which quantifies how trivial of a difficulty it is, such a statement could never be said for classic dooms nightmare

[wheat sigil]

Yeah, and it's exactly why UN is bad

[prime sentinel]

because basically no one balances around classic nightmare

because it is like, absurd, and pretty much throws design and encounters out the window

[wheat sigil]

Yup, even unbalanced tormented earth has been done on UN

[prime sentinel]

the only set I can think of balanced around nightmare is one that is literally designed to be played in it

[cyan lotus]

I saw

[wheat sigil]

I didn't ask for classic nightmare... just a difficulty much harder than nightmare

[slender night]

Ultra Nightmare should make you have to play a match of Bethesda Pinball every encounter

[prime sentinel]

I'm kind of confused about how you expect this to be accomplished, like, allow the player even fewer mistakes?

give enemies more health?

[dark peak]

more aggresive enemies and damage thats all

[dark peak]

nah this is bad

[prime sentinel]

super ultra mega nightmare

[cyan lotus]

idk, but it’s not like that in itself is an implausible idea, im pretty confident that every piece of base game content can be done with the slayer receiving 2x damage

[prime sentinel]

I'm sure it could be done, I'm not saying I think Nightmare is the hardest the game could be, just that I don't really see the point in adding an even harder mode when fans seem to be filling that niche with mods and such

like, here's a new achievement for the super ultra hardest difficulty for console gamers to spend 20 years trying to get

since we have mod tools, I'm surprised there isn't already an "even harder" mod, I mean I did see one that makes the game slightly more punishing I think

[cyan lotus]

I completely neglected that such a thing is actually completely plausible, since we’re trying to steer away from the whole deathless aspect, this could be very easy to achieve

[prime sentinel]

very easy for someone willing to sink lots and lots of time into the game

I've put 120 hours into doom eternal, I consider that a lot, and I don't think I'm going to ever attempt a UNM run

just doesn't seem worth the time and effort

[dark peak]

i have like 400 hrs on eternal, and I have never set out to complete a ML in UN , i just play it until i die.

[cyan lotus]

Maybe my opinions are a bit skewed but it seems like people would have an easier time brute forcing through a level on a higher damage scale than just playing it on regular nightmare and not dying

[placid saffron]

Well fair, UN is just as difficult in the moment as NM anyways

[prime sentinel]

now I'm confused, I thought you were saying UN is actually not that hard

but yes, brute forcing through a harder difficulty would be easier than having to not die on what is already the hardest

ultimately now that I think about it, UN does ask for less mistakes than NM because the fail state is far more punishing

making a mistake in NM can set you back an encounter but making a mistake in UNM sets you back potentially hours

[cyan lotus]

Idk I don’t make the difficulty and stuff, I just play it, this type of stuff is why people like me aren’t in charge of that, but we can hope that something more palpable will come along

[prime sentinel]

I bet there will still be a perma death mode in the dark ages

just because its become a staple now

I do wonder what "harder content" will be there for those who desire it

master levels returning of course would be great

I usually start on UV for the modern doom games then follow it with a NM playthrough

[dark peak]

master levels are a must

[prime sentinel]

they are very nice to have, I agree

but with the apparent scale of the dark ages, I wonder if they will be possible

[dark peak]

d16 nitemare was really hard at the beginning

[prime sentinel]

oh yeah, the foundry is probably the hardest level in 2016

and its like the third level I wanna say

I only played NM on 2016 on my last playthrough

and the first few levels were legitimately harder than most of Eternal, but maybe its just because I've played more eternal and am so used to the tools that game gives you

2016 feels much more stripped back relative to it

[dark peak]

Well, I hope TDA is challenging, but something like a random enemy dealing 1,000,000 damage just because would be a very cheap way to make it difficult.

Maybe they could make the number of smaller enemies more significant now, because in eternal the fodder enemies are a joke, and having several can actually make the game easier because you have the flame belch.

[tribal junco]

Bro The Dark Ages is a prequel right?

[dark peak]

yup

[tribal junco]

Wow

Cant understand though

[prime sentinel]

judging by the trailers I wonder if the imp has been promoted to higher than fodder

they made him bigger, and he charges his fireball and does his little classic doom strut

which is really cute lol

[tribal junco]

Why does the doom guy has a dragon in this and not in etern

[dark peak]

some people say that the game become way more easier later, more than eternal

[tribal junco]

Al

[prime sentinel]

it does

2016 gets really easy by the end

it has a strange difficulty curve

you get more powerful and the encounters can't quite match the pace

[dark peak]

i remember enemies makes massive damage, and gk drops health when you are in low health

yeah but the guys said like the game becomes really easy after like the first 3 levels, is quite funny

[dark peak]

because the dragon was from argent dimension, also i think there is a dragon in tag2

[prime sentinel]

there is

you don't get to control it, but you do ride one

[dark peak]

yeah is a cutscene, now in tda the dragon section would be something like panzer dragon

[prime sentinel]

that does sound awesome haha

I think I heard they aren't on rails though? which makes me wonder how you control it

[dark peak]

well these japanese games have the y axis inverted, they called plane controls or something

[prime sentinel]

those always confuse me at first

I've never really liked 3d flying in games tbh

like flying planes in GTA and stuff

[dark peak]

yup was really common in games like space harrier

[wheat sigil]

Allowing fewer mistakes/increasing the proficiency required by the player is how you increase difficulty

Faster enemies would be fun

[dark peak]

you think the early levels of d16 are a good example? they were hard

[brisk bay]

you all excited for any new doom demon designs I'm feeling pretty stoke about the new prowler design

[placid saffron]

what's the new prowler design

[prime sentinel]

I don't remember seeing the prower

[brisk bay]

Im hoping the prowler design is in the game im not saying they made a prowler design

[prime sentinel]

ohhh

[placid saffron]

ah ok
well, i'll see the new demons when i see them i don't really care for making my own hype without basis

[prime sentinel]

I am a big fan of the new look for the imp

they animated him just like the classic game with his demon strut haha

[dark peak]

imp looks so chad

[prime sentinel]

I'm a fan of the purple and orange eternal imps

but I'm glad we're getting a modern rendition of the classic

spikey boy

[dense gazelle]

No high res pics besides mancubus and aggadon hunter, right?

[dark peak]

yeah nuDoom imps looks like monkeys or some shit

[prime sentinel]

they're cool looking

[prime sentinel]

nah just stuff from the trailer

[dense gazelle]

Too blurry

[prime sentinel]

yeah but you can get a good idea of what they look like

[hard thistle]

I need someone to dm me the release date.

Lmao you think anyone actually knows

[pale island]

august 26th 2036

i forsee it

there will be a delay

of like

11 years

inexplicably

[hard thistle]

You know what I'll take your word on that

[long berry]

Nice

[wheat cliff]

January 34th 2028

[tribal moon]

What do you think it will cost day 1 ?

[dense gazelle]

Better more with a meaty campaign instead of less with fewer content

[prime sentinel]

what?

[dense gazelle]

Dunno why anybody wouldn't wanna pay full price for something he is a fan boy for

[slender night]

Because money

[dense gazelle]

Would pay 200 € for a new suffering, prototype or blood

Full time job = problem solved

[slender night]

Yeah okay man

Personally I'd wait for a sale

[prime sentinel]

what?

[tidal lodge]

What?

[misty beacon]

2025 - Ur welcome

[mint hinge]

Who is ready for the dark ages

[misty beacon]

My 4090 sure is, its hungry for an actual good game...

[mint hinge]

My Xbox will explode

[misty beacon]

nah

id software optimizes their games, dont worry

[mint hinge]

My Xbox has so much lag if I try to run doom 2016 it will crash

[misty beacon]

sounds like a faulty device

[mint hinge]

I'll replace it

It's a 360

[slender night]

You cannot play 2016 on it then lol

[mint hinge]

Damn

I thought I could

I don't have money though

No just that

And newer consoles are like 300 dollars

[slender night]

You're gonna have to buy an Xbox Series X for The Dark Ages

[mint hinge]

I heard that the s was cheaper

[slender night]

Yeah but it's a bit weaker and digital-only

[mint hinge]

I'll see what they have but idk

My dad has an s but he won't let me use it

[slender night]

Yeah but if you have physical Xbox 360 games that are backwards comp it's better to just buy a Series X

[mint hinge]

Alr ill see on Amazon of what they have

I found an Xbox x for like 250 but forza 5 edi

[lyric walrus]

eE

E

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EEEEEEEEE

[mint hinge]

@proven plover

Yeah true

But still I don't has money

[soft turret]

Get to work

[mint hinge]

I'm 13 dummie

[soft turret]

SHEIN is hiring

[mint hinge]

True I mean my birthday is around Christmas

[soft turret]

Aliexpress is looking for new employees

[mint hinge]

I can be employed I'm underage

[soft turret]

SHIEN is hiring

[mint hinge]

I don't live anywhere close to a shien

Yeah the closest I live to is a circle k

[cedar cloud]

Depends where you live

[mint hinge]

I live in america

[pulsar locust]

Also depends on state

I live in pa and it's 14-15 youngest

But different states have different laws

[sonic turret]

I think it's 16 in the UK, but I worked in a fish and chips shop when I was 13.

[old moss]

August is pumping our hype bc it's going too fast it's like it wants to be in 2025

[raw pendant]

Is that you Arthur?

[edgy granite]

Arthur Morgan?!

[worthy pollen]

no way Arthur Morgan himself is waiting for the new doom game

[visual heron]

Howto go to Germany for free? I wanna see the statue ;-;

[tranquil moss]

no

[placid saffron]

Start walking

[safe ice]

find the secret teleporter behind a wall

[empty furnace]

i wanna play the new doom game

[charred acorn]

will there be any old doom in the dark ages?

[tepid crater]

Cant wait for dark ages to come out

Im buying it first day when it comes out

[old moss]

My broke ass can't even buy it at launch

[slender night]

Game Pass:

[old moss]

My bro I use playstation

[slender night]

https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-gif-23443443

Nevermind then

[old moss]

Is GamePass basically free games or it's like ps plus?

[slender night]

PS Plus, you get some games for it but only as long as you're subscribed

[old moss]

Game pass you still need it for online multiplayer?

[slender night]

Yes

[honest vortex]

Yeah it looks sweet

[tranquil moss]

there probably will be some references to older doom games, eternal had a trillion references to older dooms and other games

[strong osprey]

I can just imagine one of the first few mods changing the firing sound from the skull shooter to the bad to the bone rift

[sick thistle]

i LIKE THAT IDEA.

[long berry]

Nice

[delicate knot]

ima buy the highest edition for this game

trust

[tender idol]

yeah yeah sure

[dense gazelle]

Would be cool to get the flail in the collectors edition

[prime sentinel]

like...

a real one?

[dense gazelle]

Yes, to bash in the skulls of non doom fans 😬

[prime sentinel]

🤔

https://tenor.com/view/bart-simpson-simpsons-gif-21258017

[finite island]

https://tenor.com/view/ron-burgundy-escalated-quickly-gif-9744555

[limpid ridge]

Y'all I'm looking forward to playing the game on my steam deck

;3

Or maybe save enough money for actually good computer lol

[prime sentinel]

Wanna get a new pc together for dark ages

I’m thinking a 4070s will be good for 2k 144 fps

Hopefully

I’ve been running a 2070s for a few years now

It’s still pretty alright, I think my ssd might be dying though because I’ve been hitting weird stutters in games for the past year or so

(Resetting the pc did not fix this)

[reef ocean]

What kind of games are you getting stutters?

[prime sentinel]

Like, every game

Example: when I hit a checkpoint in doom eternal it will often stutter for a moment

This is why I theorize it’s the ssd

Very few games don’t have microstutters

Things that did not stutter before

Games aren’t unplayable but it is frequently annoying

[reef ocean]

Might also be RAM. Because most of the time, the game/level/assets are already loaded into RAM.

[prime sentinel]

I have 32 gigs but you mean it might be going bad?

I want a new pc either way

[reef ocean]

What's your processor?

[prime sentinel]

Ryzen 5 3600x

Like I said, these problems only appeared a year ago or so

Something is dying

[reef ocean]

Yeah. It would be something between GPU, RAM, or CPU once the game and/or level is running/loaded.

[prime sentinel]

Strange thing: classic doom stutters too, it isn’t intensive games, I noticed whenever a noise plays for the first time it may stutter

Multiple source ports and the official port does this

[reef ocean]

Interesting...

[prime sentinel]

🤷

[reef ocean]

Yeah. Very odd issue indeed.

[prime sentinel]

I’ve talked to lots of people about this, and I can’t get a clear read on it

Either way, I want to play dark ages at 2k at a high frame rate, I’m thinking of just going with a new pc, shouldn’t take too long to save the funds

I put together new pcs specifically to play each of the new doom games now that I think about it

Current one was built in 2019

[reef ocean]

I'd love to find a custom doom pc case.

A get an additional 32GB of RAM...I should be fine with a 3090 and Ryzen 5900x still.

[hard thistle]

there is no doom the dark ages.

[tiny beacon]

doom: the good ages

[hard thistle]

doom: the foul ages

[tiny beacon]

doom: the huge scam

[hard thistle]

doom: the peak ages.

[tiny beacon]

doom: the guy that likes minors

💀

[hard thistle]

doom: p3do destruction

[tiny beacon]

yes