#the-dark-ages
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It'll suck for Steam players if they didn't make it compatible for the Steam Deck.
The fog is coming
odd thing audio still plays after it crashes
That’s nice
as someone who's using the deck right now; linux is just as, if not better than windows
its a little confusing (im new) but i find it a bit more convenient
Do you start with the sheild in doom dark ages or do you have to get it like for example getting the bfg 9000
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why did you ping us?
You start with a purple unicorn and shit rainbows everywhere
Don't ping us for that
ok sory
Yo that's so pog
They know as much as us mate
I can't wait
I wasnt that excited for the dark ages before but now I am convinced this will be the best game in the series
kevans

hahahaha
Imagine leaking shit and getting sued to hell and back by bethesda/idsoftware/zenimax and microsoft for breaking NDA
Nooo I'm so sad that that's gonna happen to Kev now 😢
We'll miss you Kev
May you rest in peace
the issue is just less games available for linux
if it had games like windows did id use it
but its too much of a minority when it comes to operating systems
so developers dont put much thought or effort into it usually
I feel that if you truly want the skull gun to better than the unmakyr then you better hope it wasn't killing fodder in the trailer for a reason
I'm coming for you 


Nevermind, didn't know he had a gun

ON MY WAY TO GERMANY

me when the ages are dark


Dark is good. Light blinds.
corny ahh 👽
ебал рот чертей
do you think they're gonna fully replace the bfg with the unmaykr in this game?
if they do that I’m going to jump off a bridge
Me too
is good
Is beautiful
Purchased steam now i press space and it waits a bit and then crashes
Doom with no BFG is war material
Thats a good theory ngl
What if the BFG is gonna be in the new doom slayer base locked up.
That would suck if so
what if the bfg was the only gun usable
Maybe after a couple of missions we will find a key and unlock it
Or maybe it will be like the unmaykr
9 keys?
9 slayer gates?
Like that?
Ok bye gtg
See you
Ye like that
9 circles of hell
hardware issue
i doubt its software since its happening on both
I don't really know how you say it in english
oh lmao
All good
I'm pre ordering the dark ages as soon as they go live
Cycles?
not Christian nor an native English speaker but there is a 9 something of hell in the bible
something something suffering
yeah nine circles of hell from uhhh virgil n dante
9 circles, but that is a poem or something, dante's inferno
ah ok
wasn't that a video game for the Xbox 360
500 years give or take ago it was a italian poem
Fix e
I’m hyped for doom the dark ages
Me to it looks insane
Fr
in a few weeks we will get a schedule and that will tell us if we get more doom info or not. I would expect to see more ... but there hasn't been much hype imo
Aight
do all of yall just talk about doom
Xbox will also have a big showing at gamescom in late august, so i would expect it to be there as well
Read the name of this chat
me when the doom fans from the doom server in the doom channel talk about doom (gone wrong)
It's a book
Yes this is quite literally a server about doom, where people in fact talk about doom 🤯
nah we talk about halo
lol
narrative poem
but yes ... whatever the fuck that means. Im no english major
is there a way to preorder it on xbox
did anyone notice when doomguy shot that mancubus with the ssg literally half his body came clean off
that gun is gonna be so powerful
Yea I’m really excited
The super shotgun looks better than ever
But I’m looking forward to like that weird pin gun
And the skull gun
And the chainsaw shield thingy
Basically all of it
😋
the needle gun is probably our replacement for the ballista
Yea the pin gun. It looks so fun to use
All of it looks great
skull crusher gun gotta be the chaingun
And it looks almost to easy
It probably is
dark ages is probably going to have significantly more demons per arena than eternal
i'd probably say the demon cap is raised to 80 on dark ages
but we wouldn't know that
That sounds a bit far-fetched…
maybe since eternal only allows 32 demons spawned in (including slayer)
I don't think that shot was as meaningful as everyone is making it out to be. I'm pretty sure the point of that shot was just to show the community that the demons have weak points again, as the manc's arm cannon comes off from the shot. I'm not even sure the gun will be that strong in the game, it could've just been buffed for that shot.
Yea actually now that I think about it, 80 could be a pretty close number
OK OK OK
ps. the manc did not die from it
my morning routine
🗣️
Aww man

I'm ok if the guns this powerfull, i just want them flood us with demon hoards
hi
Hello
CHAIN SAW SHIELD 🥹
Do you think dark ages will have a blood punch effect for the sheild? Or maybe even the flail
I don't see them regressing that designwise
I hope that Gordon will make soundtrack
We’ll have to see on that, I don’t believe he will. But maybe it was sorted out
He is not
Hey
sadly thats not likely to happen
thats what i wanna see the most in the new game
i hope the track will be good
yea mick isnt coming back
hes working with this team now
emptyvessel is at the vanguard of building games that feel great to play. We are passionate creators who share a vision of disrupting the expected ways and developing our own that empower our visionary team.
Very excited to see what’s to come from this group
probably nothing for a very long time, but if something does come, it will be interesting to see how it turns out
Definitely keeping an eye on them
It probably won't be
Doom slayer looking fine as always
Glad we’ll finally get to pilot the mechs
what do you think they gonna remove in the dark ages?
i mean, is there a reason for the chainsaw to be in it?
unless its somehow a part of the games melee combat mechanics
U are so right about that
Yeah if the game takes after 2016 and eternal it will probably give you ammo like it has been doing in those games. The chainsaw will likely just take the form of the shield in this game though, we won't have an actual chainsaw anymore.
probably
Game looks more open to me
why did i read this as "d-d... d-did i stu- stutt- stutter"

i think the shield will be the chainsaw
because it got those spinny blades
honestly i forgot the shield is also a chainsaw
but i was mostly thinking about the ammo refill mechanic
they said its gonna be more like classic doom
oh, neat
also, what enemies should get removed?
who
i forgor
archie?
i think
yed
yeah bud youre not surviving plutonia
true...
nahh hes fun, always gives me new toys to play with 
wish he would spawn more enemies and more frequently
based 

i let him stay alive, just to have fun
shi u right
only dumb shit, why can he roast ur balls with that flame carpet if hes out of line of sight

like... stop that, kinda annoying
1.98 m
In this video I show the scale of characters and demons as they appear in the game. I have specified the character height, this is not the best way to measure overall size because some demons are thicker then they are tall. Some characters might also appear at a different scale in game than they do in fluff or lore, this is because characters ar...
short
how much is six feet into meters. I might be taller than doomguy...
im 6'4" so im definitely taller than him
bruh im bit shorter than the intern, but im still tall for my age anyway
6 feet would be 1.83 meters
Well thats good enough for me thanks
No
You're just a little under him
He stands at 6'5, almost pushing 6'6
6'4 would be 1.93 meters
aw man
maybe i am him
i can be him
We do not know how tall he is lol
That's based on the render shown on screen
But it is never said anywhere how tall he is, so we can't take that at face value
And it probably differs in different games
There's also a life-size statue of him which stands at 205 meters
Please, not this again😭
?
It's really not that deep
There's really nothing wrong with guessing his height from what we have
Him being tall bears no consequence on anything
You didn't really say you were guessing tbf
"He stands" as in "the model shown on video stands at"
Ah yes, that was very clear
What else could I have been talking about bro
Using the exact same numbers as the video
I'm looking forward to seeing the new look Super Heavies in TDA.
And with QuakeCon only three weeks away, hopefully we'll get to see a little sum sum.
i thought doom slayer was 6'8
That one's obvious, but I'm wondering if we'll see a new or existing Cyberdemon and Archvile.
hell naw
I'd like to see the Hell Guards too, give them a but more background.
There's literally one in the trailer.
Either that, or something else took its skull and used it as a helmet.
Of course I'm interested to see which smaller enemies we get too, like will the laser shooting guy return, or my personal favourite; the Summoner.
Obviously the Hellknight is confirmed, and people are guessing that the other thing is a Revenant.
I'd hope that there would be specific types of enemy that're found in different environments though, not just whatever they choose or place on the map.
Is there gonna be Quakecon this August, if so will we get more info about Dark Ages
Yes and probably.
@sonic turret really so it's confirmed. But wait was there Quakecon last year
How much do yall think it's gonna cost?
The game or QuakeCon?
the game
I mean it's a new release, it'll cost the same amount as any other new release, and costing more for the Deluxe Edition.
Well, comparing DOOM Eternal with COD MW (2019) I don't think it's gonna cost that much, Eternal is $710 MXN and COD MW $1200 MXN ($70 dolars)
But who knows
ok, thats fair
Archviles are very likely
Might see the Baalgar demon
Would make for a good boss
Oh and Eternal is 1 year older if that helps
The baalgar demons and a Titan are good bets for bosses
Wonder what else they’ll do
Expecting at least 3
titan def, the fact the story (im pretty sure) is that the slayer beat him with a shield and a sword makes it so damn likely
The Titans, we know because they're in the trailer, however the Balgar, we've literally no idea.
We may not be facing that Titan
Because I’m fairly sure a Titan boss will be in a Atlan
I'm expecting a interim Dark Lord/General.
What do you guys think the boss is in the dark ages
Some kind of General to the Dark Lord.
Or Vizier.
Like a Regent or something.
The Regent of Hell.
I think a titan
It won't be the final boss though, otherwise they wouldn't have shown it in the trailer.
i mean we kill 2 titans in the trailer alone
those titans are like...titan grunts or whatever
I think there will be something like what the Witch King of Angmar is TO Sauron, like his gopher during the time when he can't make himself physical.
In LOTR.
Definitely could be the dark lord previous to the Aranea Imperatix
I don’t think it’s ever elaborated on in the lore when the previous dark lord was dethroned so
Could be during the dark ages
I just hope we see how the father looks
The Father was already dead at this time
Oh
So unlikely
I think the Revenant was in the trailer too, but it looks much different, I couldn't really make out his design at that resolution and my antique television.
I think the pinky was there to it’s like horse
I didn't notice that, but I saw the classic Imps.
I hope more lore about how doomguy was with the sentinels
That’s absolutely going to be elaborated on more
I got a picture of the pinky
Also was it just me or are the mancubus shooting projectiles that have faces?
What like Lost Souls?
For some reason I can’t show it on here
No, they banned memes.
Oh ok
I can see it in the trailer, but not in great detail.
Yeah
Oh snap, I literally forgot that I can change the resolution in YouTube.
I can see it now, kinda reminds me of the Violator in Spawn.
It looks like a bull kind of
Has there been anything new? I bet not, but still
No, maybe at QuakeCon in three weeks time.
Like the doom 3 ones I guess
Though they don’t seem independent
Oh right
The Forgotten or something, I just saw them. Remind me of Shang Tsung's flaming skulls.
is tthis game going to be canon
Why wouldn't it be?
What if like how they added doom 1 and 2 to Doom Eternal, they add TNT and Plutonia?
Better yet, let them add Doom 3
They could prob do it I guess but doom 3 also takes up quite a bit more space
At least the BFG edition
Doom 1 and 2 are only like a few dozen megabytes or something
itt aint gonna have glory kills?
nobody knows
I hope it does
dunno, a new gimmik would be cool
If there’s no glory kills, ima be sad
i hope theres a new twist added to them, if they are still there
otherwise it would get kinda old
True
honestly they got really old after seeing each one of them thousands of times ( not a figure of speech ) and the fact that it’s not as efficient as just ice bomb flame belching everything and its slow
If I’m glory killing something it was either because it was on accident or because I’m getting my ass kicked and need to press a panic button
A
i noticed the doom eternal zombies being left in there as placeholders
What if there were glory kills where you could control it with movements, like graffiti in BRCF
huh? can you elaborate on that?
Like u could do left up right down for one animation and left right down up for another
then you would have to do more moves for bigger enemies like cacodemons
like 5 to 6 moves rather than 4
ohhhh i see
Yeah, would definitely be a improvement over how it currently works
Where the animation is based on where u look
exactly
That’s a cool idea but what benefit would that give you? If you’re going to have a player do a complex set of inputs in the middle of an already complex game, there should be a benefit to doing so I think
Maybe make it optional
So you are not forced to do all of those movements but can do if you want, no extra benefit, just for fun
But then that puts a barrier to entry for seeing some glory kills for no good reason
That’s like having a command input in a fighting game have the exact same effect as a normal punch, it’s a bunch of extra effort for no payoff
It's purely cosmetic
Well, the thing here is that the extra effort is not for dealing damage like it would do in a fighting game, it's just for a cool animation once you already dealt that damage
I suppose, but why make players go through extra effort to see that when you could simply not have that extra barrier there
Like if someone wanted to just play the game without worrying about that, would all the kills look the exact same?
Ok, hear me out here
Ideally though the best of both worlds is having it your way, and then having it without that as an accessibility option
Maybe make it optional in the settings let there be a "legacy" mode that works like 2016 and Eternal and an "updated" mode that requires all of those keybinds, there you go, everyone's happy
Yeah that’d be cool
a mechanical benefit should absolutely be tied to that, or realistically nobody would use said system
though ig there's a mechanical benefit to forcing the shortest possible animation to play
that, and nobody wants to watch a 2 hour feature film just to regain 10 health
Hmm, maybe they'll be the same, I mean there's no point in reinventing the wheel for the sake of it.
I think Glory Killing is still present, it's just hasn't been shown yet
My hypothesis is that they recontextualized glory killing so they now serve a different purpose
I doubt that. Idk what other purpose glory kills could serve getting health back is the best use for them
yo can anyone join me in eternal mltiplayer? i need help getting past super gore nest
Unfortunately not how multiplayer works in eternal. Also you're in the wrong channel.
eternal's multiplayer is battlemode only without mods
from what i understand, the new glory kills may just be a thing that happens instead of a particular button press
like in the trailer, you see the slayer hit the rider with a mace and that clearly kills him
maybe thats what the new glory kills are like, finishers based on whatever weapon you kill the demon with
but hugo was kinda vague so who knows how it actually works
I hope that’s not the case cause that would make it a reskinned Doom Blade and that’s the last thing the mace should be
well we also literally see him use the mace to melee the big demon and it just hurts him
As long as the mace can be used outside of glory killing that’s all I want
I’m excited for that shield though
I agree with this
Ig Im fine if they glory killing back, (id prefer they didnt but whatever) but if they do then I feel that whatever the glory kill weapon is (flail, doomblade, whatever) should be able to be used outside of the glory killing mechanic
i would've loved the doomblade to be used as a weapon
I also agree with this beautiful and tasteful statement on the matter of using the "Doom Blade" from hit video game "DOOM Eternal" as a melee weapon.(
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Hello everyone, does anyone know the minimum requirements for Doom The Dark Ages?
Or does anyone suppose what the requirements are?
I dont think anyone knows what the minimum requirements are yet, I'm pretty sure they haven't been announced as of right now. There are articles however that estimate what you'll need to run the game
I can try to link one here and dm you if that doesn't work if you'd like
I'm gonna assume that they're gonna be a little bit or more above D:E. I'm also thinking the game might be well optimized based on 2016 and Eternal.
That's great, it gives me room to keep playing.
What are your pc specs?
The Switch will probably be dead by then anyway. They're working on another console.
Hell yeah maybe it can finally match 2016 hardware
It'll be PS4-power I heard somewhere.
fucking hell
I love the way the slayers spikey knuckles look, imagine blood punching with that
That would be awesome
Dark ages fortnite skin
Wait I'm so silly it took me a month to realise but will we be seeing the Fortress of Doom return in this?
maybe not as a hub this time though
I think you will be shown the origin of the fortress
The specifications of my computer are I5-9400, 16GB RAM, and GTX 1660. I apologize for the delay in responding, I was not at home.
isn't that the quest 3 at this point
Your good. I'd imagine you can run it.
I'm actually okay with that. Portable game systems aren't meant to be as powerful as home consoles.
It'll just be like a handheld PS4/Xbox One. I'm sure they'll port PS5 and Xbox Series X/S games to the Switch's successor, they just have to make some graphical and technical downgrades.
I agree with them selling games to the switch's successor. Money is money, even if you're selling people an objectively worse product.
hey chat
Vamos Messi loco!!
never
They already have a doom slayer skin so it is less likely than it otherwise would be, but they could absolutely add a new style or add a completely new skin to the item shop
It’d be cool if The Dark Ages has at least one reference to the 300 movie and the “This is Sparta!” meme, considering the game’s setting.
The dark ages? 300?
Two different time periods
Like, a big ass gap between the battle of thermopylae and the start of the dark ages
if nintendo can make games look that good on a glorified nvidia shield i wanna see what they can do with ps4 hardware
just realized hugo said "there are melee weapons" so I guess the ball and chain isnt the only one
Do you guys think commander valen would return in dark ages
most likely
i would be surprised if he doesnt.
If there's one thing that can bring me back playing Fortnite again, it'll be that.
That would be sick
same
so when dose thiis game take place in the doom universe
Before 2016 and eternal, but after the rest of the games
During the slayers time in argenta with the sentinels
22nd century.
Not only does this mean nothing, it's probably wrong.
I love it 😭
Then I assume that you must know something that the rest of us don't.
Says the guy who made something up, literally no information on what date it takes place on
Does the original doom not take place in 2020? If tda is between 64 and 2016, and 64 takes place after the original, 22nd century to 21st century isnt far off
I dont know my lore though
the original doom does not take place in any confirmed date, and even then, takes place in a different universe than nu doom, eons before nu doom Infact, so bumfuck BC could practically be the old doom universes equivalent of heat death, rendering its time period completely useless even if we did have a confirmed date
Ok my bad
and the dark ages trailer seems to show his time with the sentinels, which is prior to the sarcophagus, i do not recall how long he was in there, but i want to say with confidence it’s long enough to completely invalidate any guessing room one could’ve had for the potential date the game takes place in
Uh, it's not made up, that's the century established by the Doom Wiki timeline. If you disagree with it, then it's a probably they that's made it up. However it seems consistent to the Doom storyline and with the lore book.
the eons point probably doesn’t stand as I am fairly sure the time with the sentinels was not too long after his divinity machine debacle meaning he still would’ve had to have been a humanly possible age but then the whole entirely different universe point stands
just because you didn’t make it up doesn’t mean it’s not made up at all, the doom wiki is notorious for getting information wrong time after time and i would not recommend it as a credible source for information
From what I understand, the classic Doom games took place in the 21st century, but in a different universe. Now either the calender is different in the 2016 and Eternal Universe or the Slayer was out of the game for a period of time crossing the turn of the century.
M0no's lore book speaks of the 21st century using the term "had been", which suggests that we might've moved on to the 22nd century.
You know what
i Can never win with you petton, you’re always right and always will be
not saying I'm always right, this is my best guess based on the information we have.
And my best guess is that it will be some time during the 22nd century.
The fact that the UAC have infrastructure set up on the moons of Mars suggests to me that the classic Doom games are perhaps pushing towards the end of the 21st century at least, but who knows. 🤔🤷
Yeah I love that this guy has made up a number, then cites doom wiki as a source. Its great too because if this game takes place on argent d'nur then the human concept of time and centuries is literally meaningless, the argenta would have something completely different.
The concept of different universes also seems to go way over their head, which is just great
That wasn't my only reason given for thinking that, there was also M0no's lore book and the stage of technological advancements which all point towards the 22nd century or possibly beyond.
For some reason I assumed that Doomguy was sent millions of years into the past in the 2016/Eternal universe.
Sentinel lore is also confusing.
I don't know, I mean being a different universe, the calendars could be completely different, making it challenging to establish what exactly past really means.
We know that the reigns of Ormero and Etrex occurred at some point prior to 80 million years ago.
Way over my head. I've not studied that part yet.
2016 and Eternal outright say that they are set in the 22nd Century in the codexes.
Do you mean the Sentinel’s calendars?
Those would definitely be different.
He was DoomGuys mentor/trainer and is the whole reason he and the sentinels were trapped in hell so yeah I’d say it’s a safe bet he is.
Is Dark Ages before DOOM 2016 and Doom Eternal?
I just realized that the moment we control the atlan in the dark ages we'll be the closest to a full fledged pacific rim game. Iykyk
From what I heard yeah
Yes
It’s set inbetween the events following the demonic invasion of Taras Nabad and the Slayer being entombed in hell.
If you're referring to the events of The Dark Ages, then the game happens in prehistoric ages from Earth's POV.
At least, based on lore presented in Eternal regarding the timeframe of the Unholy Wars.
can i preorder on xbox somehow
no, not yet
is there a date
nope
okay thanks
pre orders probably not up till they nail down a release date. If we get a release date at TGA, it will probably be the first half of 2025. If not, i wouldn't expect a release till Holiday 2025.
so release window is April - November 2025 basically
I'm soo excited for the new doom game it'll be the best fps in 2025
I mean at this point I don't care about gta 6
lol yes
It's funny how gta6 had so much hype for years and now that it's out I don't see people going crazy for it. They missed their own hype
Chad

yeah no point in comparing 
Hoping my steam deck can run the game when it releases lmao
It took them so long to make gta 6 12 years
I got the best one but not the recent OLED model
It will
Awesome that's where I played eternal
It has the best specs so it should
The steam deck is basically a portable PS4 or budget gaming pc
Yeah
Yeah I hope I get one cause I don't got one rn
I say eternal is a pretty good experience on the deck
A ps4 won't be able to run TDA
A little hard is all
Oop
Yeah it's ps5
He meant the steam deck is like a portable powerful play station or like a gaming pc
Do you have a computer?
Yeah
Why would you buy something worse then
Oh it's worse welp
The steam deck is kinda cool tho it's like a Nintendo switch on steroids that can go toe to toe with PlayStation
I don't know lol
?
I have a deck since I travel a lot. That's the only reason to really get one. It's nice on plane trips
This shit too funny rn
steam deck is incredible solution to boredom when you're being holed up at work everyday like me atm
will the dark ages have the same movement as eternal (ex. dash, double jump)?
Unknown
Though unlikely
Well aside from that shield ability for dashing
It'll have some form of dashing but probably not as accessible as in eternal
There was hardly any jumping in the trailer so I dunno about that
I'll be happy if we even can jump lmao
I saw him jump into a shield ground pound in the trailer
Like mario I guess that'll be a new ability good observation!
I like the skull crusher gun Hugo martin said it's called the accelerator but i was thinking it should be called the a-skull-erator
The Plasma Rifle is the Accelerator
Oh ok
My bad forgot the name
Been a bit since played doom
It's crazy how doom eternal was released 2020 and that felt like yesterday
Yup, four years already. What's more is that the previous game was four whole years before that, but I didn't start playing 2016 until it was at £10 because I was addicted to Classic Doom.
Kinda tru
Cool
Where is it set? In central Europe?
its not set on earth
I'm hoping it's ready for pre order by Christmas time, it probably will be tho
What is the dark ages
The next doom game
Its set on Argent D'Nur most likely, maybe we could also see some of the planets and universes they colonized
Wasnt also eternal preorderable by december 2019
thats also cause it was coming out less than 4 months later
we have no idea whether dark ages will release in the beginning or near the end of 2025
Best guess is probably in october - november of next year
The Dark Ages is a term used to describe the period in Western European history between the fall of the Roman Empire and the beginning of the Renaissance and Age of Exploration, roughly from 500 to 1500 AD. The term is often used to characterize this time as a period of economic, intellectual, and cultural decline.
no
how doomy will this doom game be?
very doomy
It sounds like they're trying to better capture the essence of the classics this time around
I kinda don't want them to
how much the game will cost
Nobody knows, its a year until release. But probably 60-70 bucks
Why not? I think it sounds awesome
the modern games being so different and not like the classics make then feel like completely different games with there own stuff going on, which is a good thing in my opinion.
are they going to be skins in the game
I hope so.
me too
probably not, who knows
I want something like some of the Ranger’s skins in Quake Champions.
A cowl fashioned from demon skin.
I totally see where you’re coming from. I guess don’t expect Dark Ages to play exactly like the Classics just draw a lot of inspiration from its gameplay. Eternal drew a lot of inspiration from the Classics visually so imagine that but for gameplay this time instead of visuals
If you think about it 2016 was like a modern version of Quakes gameplay and level design with its verticality
That does sound nice I guess, just along as it isn't just 1993 in 4k Central Europe.
Oh it won’t be I guarantee it
I wonna see something like a demonically resurrected Ancestral.
Or other native critters that may or may not be turned into demons.
I do
If it actually comes out in 2025
Hope we dont get another funni virus spreading around the world

But yeah, true
Lmao
Still, if they need to delay it, i rather have them delay it and finish it instead of releasing a unfinished product
I can always wait. I'm blessed with the ability to forget what I'm excited for until it's at the door
truly a blessing
The definition of a old saying "the luck is with the stupid ones"
(I dont mean it in a offensive kinda way)
Stupid is who stupid does 🐎
this explains why i am lucky
Me too brother
I honestly wouldnt expect a delay
im so excited for this game i swear on everything
When this game comes out you will never see me again
Guys I want to get more info on the slayers power, any recommendations on who I should watch?
There isn’t a single good source on YouTube I’m aware of
I did just watch a video from chuck
Watch it an give me your thoughts
Chuck is an idiot I’m going to be honest
🙄
I remember his Invincible videos being awful
Ok
I have no faith that his doom scaling videos are any better
He said doomslayer was a multiverseal level
He’s wrong
Gave good reasons
Watch the video for yourself
I’m working on a debunk for lore misconceptions used to justify said claims
Doomguy being multiversal is completely reliant on the belief that Davoth himself is multiversal in power in TAG2
Which he isn’t
Didn’t Marty say that the battle against Devoth like had effects on the universe or something like that?
Like watch the video for yourself
Give me your thoughts
Yeah this is all stuff I’ve heard before. The beginning of the video is actually okay. Chuck makes some mistakes when recounting the timeline but overall the lore he cites is solid.
But around the middle of the video it starts going off the rails
He claims the praetor suit is impenetrable because of the Slayer Testaments when we have direct evidence of the opposite in Eternal
He claims Davoth is superior to the Father which is also not true
He also says that the Doomguy defeated the Titan champion with his bare hands only which isn’t exactly true
At least he doesn’t bring up argent having infinite temps
@glad burrow
He also repeats the myth that doomguy doesn’t need his guns and just uses them for fun
So what level is doomslayer then?
Beacuse when the dark ages come, we could get much more info
We’re leveling him on what we know right now
Idk pretty strong still his suit is definitely capable of surviving energy in excess of 2000 megakelvin.
He has some pretty good speed and strength feats as well
Yes
I wouldn’t say any of them put him even at planetary though
If you don’t mind, I’m eating rn so could we come back to this later
Does dark ages have a release date yet?
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This is a great video actually, though I don’t entirely agree with his conclusion
The doomguy definitely could have defeated the Titan with his hands and weapons it’d just take a long ass time
Titans aren’t invulnerable or anything
Icon was ripped apart by the slayer in a similar way in Eternal
So basically he can kill a titan with his bare fists, he just hasn’t yet
And we will get more info on his power in the dark ages, is full backstory and power isn’t known 100%, if anything, he might be able to destroy Saitama, we just don’t know his full power, and we don’t have enough info
Yeah I agree hopefully there’s more lore and backstory to understand doom guy’s past and power
Finally someone who agrees woth that
I mean I'm not a doom genius but are other people having difficulty understanding doom lore?
I wonder about a special edition version
Why do you want him to be stronger than Saitama so bad
Basically, I used to have and friend, he loved opm. I said that Doomslayer was stronger, and he didn’t believe me or have the proof, we stopped being friends (which I’m not going to explain why) and opm reminds of him. I don’t have anything against opm, it’s a great anime, it’s just that I would like good reasoning here, better than his reasoning
He does have proof tho, you're the one who doesn't.
For who, doomslayer?
Yes
Well it’s not like you know him or anything
What
What
What I'm saying is that your friend is correct in saying Saitama is stronger than the Doom Slayer
And it will most likely stay that way
Well, from what we currently know,
But the dark ages will give new info
And I have a good reasoning
In doom 2016, the dreadnaught vs the slayer battle was in hell, correct?
That’s what the slayers testament said
The dreadnaught was a separate Titan but yeah
The dreadnought and the titan from the testaments are not even the same
He fought a Titan in hell
Yes, and in doom eternal, the titan or dreadnaught was in Taras Nabad,
You've said different variations of this phrase on this server like 20 times. Stop defaulting to this whenever you realize the person on the opposite end of the argument has way more and better evidence than you.
Dreadnought was put into stasis by the crucible
Saitama has wiped out multiple solar systems at this point, the Slayer has not done anything of such scale.
Yes, but in 2016, it did not say that
Can you stop brother
Because they're different titans
Wasn’t the one in 2016 labeled the dreadnaught
No
No it was called the Titan Champion
That's the Champion
Or the Great One
Different demons that appear in different levels
You guys have more info here, and tbh, I got about half of the lore from Midnight, who apparently isn’t a good source
Which I didn’t know previously
So my bad on that
Yeah Midnights a clickbaiter and really wants Doom to be more impressive and spectacular power wise than it really is
Though misinfo isn’t unique to him
But he helped spur on a lot of it
Then another thing, a lot of people say the slayer is stronger than Saitama
Midnight takes lore and interprets it as generously as one possibly can, whilst ignoring how hard the games contradict it
Like on those shorts
A lot of people think the Slayer is outerversal too
I don’t take ‘em that seriously
But then again, you most likely are older
It's okay to ignore gameplay contradictions if they aren't too heavy, but in the Doom games, the contradictions are just too strong.
That is true
Like the people claiming the Doom Slayer moves at lightspeed, yet he failed to catch a crippled old woman.
But he dodged the icon of sins lasers, right?
That's not a valid feat, non-speed of light characters dodge lasers all the time
Actually there is a way doomslayer could win
In every doom universe, the slayer has power, right?
Where are you going with this
Mfs refuse to acknowledge aim dodging
It said something like that in the codex or by that scientist lady in the Arc Complex
The fastest you can get the slayer is like hypersonic through gameplay feats
Sometimes aim dodging isn't even the reason tbh, game devs/manga writers usually don't think about how fast irl lasers are
And there could be a universe we’re Saitama didn’t break his limiter, and he would be a regular guy,
No.
She simply said there's foreign bodies in his dna, which are probably the dna imprint of the divinity machine/davoth's dna
Well any ways, there could be universe we’re saitama doesn’t have power, and doomslayer does, and he could kill Saitama
Ight, you're doing too much now
People use one line from the codex to scale the Slayers speed too when it’s likely figurative and is referring to the Seraphim, not the Khan Maykr
Which line
The one that says the seraphim winged themselves through creation
Using Saitama before training is silly now
But I mean they probably just flew through teleporters lol
But it counts as a win
With how universes work in Doom you can’t really just “fly” between them
As win is win
Well duh, it would be a separate universe
Yeah, and I could kill Mike Tyson by sneaking into his home at 3 am and cutting his neck open in his sleep, that doesn't mean I would be able to beat him in a fight.
Intrusive thoughts but yea, good point
And isn’t that murder?
Yes.
I think we need matpat for doom lore lol
Cough m0no
9 + 10 is actually 21 because if you flip 9 + 10 it's 6 + 01 =7 and 7 looks like the letter L upside down and L is the 12th letter in the alphabet flip around 12 anf it's 21

in doom the dark ages, the super shotgun is strong enough to kill a really fat mancubus
i saw it in trailer 1
@earnest adder the emoji you just posted is the head of a carcass in doom eternal
yeah
if you played doom eternal
you 1st see the carcas
carcass*
in the campaign in doom hunter base
@jagged thicket you're a genius because you made 9+10 21 (its supposed to be 19)
This is most likely trailer stylization
They are probably using quad damage
yeah @soft turret like in doom 2016 and doom eternal
in doom eternal its called onslaught...
It absolutely could be, but I feel the more important thing to point out is that the mancubus didn't die.
Yeah, that part was made only to showoff that demons body are destructible, like in eternal.
Doom slayer with all cheats versus full power one punch man who wins
Both lose to uncle grandpa
All cheats includes berserk
Doomslayer mogs
Beserk mid
Saitama still clears
Saitama is just berserk Doomguy but better
U sure? Doomguy gets invuln aswell
Also fucking noclip
Saitama can't even hit him and he can just spawn rockets out of nowhere
They aren't
You sure?
They never were, really
Doomguys with all cheats would be an even match
Even years ago, Saitama was at least capable of destroying a planet
Doomguy, on the other hand, can bleed by the hands of demons not even capable of destroying a city by themselves
Yes but that doesn't matter if doomguy is literally invulnerable
I wonder how the crucible would go against Saitama aswell
Yes, Doomguy is invulnerable
But Saitama is so much stronger and more durable than Doomguy is, that no attack Doomguy ditches out is gonna hurt Saitama
Durability is already gone if he's literally invulnerable
You're not getting what I mean
It doesn't matter if Doomguy is invulnerable
He can't hurt Saitama
Therefore it's just an endless coughing baby vs nuclear bomb scenario
gag characters vs normal characters will always be kinda one sided
So it's an even match
Saitama is not really a gag, he's just so much stronger than Doomguy that it isn't really a match
They wont kill eachother
one punch man is a gag character
Doomguy simply can't die and saitama can't get hurt
He isn't, manga proved he isn't.
It's not even, because Doomguy would be getting ragdolled around until Saitama realizes Doomguy is immortal and gets bored
On the other hand, if Doomguy unleashed a berserk flurry of punches on Saitama it would look like Armstrong vs Raiden
And what about the crucible
Most likely isn't gonna work
Doomguy didn't bother using it on the Icon until its brain was exposed
Haven't played through complete eternal
🤷♂️
i mean technically you can hurt it with the crucible
But isn't that just for gameplay
It would be kinda ass to find the final boss and just 1hit it
That's true. But we have no reason to think the crucible is duraneg.
during the phase transition you can pull out the crucible and hit him in the arm with it
The most likely outcome would be that the crucible just breaks upon contact with Saitama
wowww!!!! nice game i just completed it!! keep moving id software!
In short, Doomguy is not an universe destroying god, stop listening to youtube vs shorts or midnight
He's just a juiced up version of Master Chief
Case closed
Don't think so
Do you have any proof to disprove this?
Ah no normal doomguy has no chance
Is it really an even fight when the only thing saving one party from getting turned into a red mist is invulnerability?
Is it now?
It's not even, Doomguy is just surviving because he has invulnerability on
If you put me inside of an armor that can protect me from 120mm tank shells and 50 caliber ammunition, that doesn't mean I can destroy a tank
True but you wouldn't die
It just means I'm inside something protecting me from getting blown to bits
And the tank couldn't destroy you
What do you mean pure chance?
An even one would be one where Doomguy is as strong and as fast as Saitama, and because of that they can't hurt eachother.
Ah which he is using cheats
Maybe not as fast though
Should ask my dad he's a cheat expert ;))
That's not what I meant
Look, it is a stalemate, fine
Doomguy with invulnerability on vs Saitama is technically a stalemate
Without he has no chance
I’m gonna get a ps5 so I can get doom the dark ages. 
I’m hoping that the game has similar specs to Eternal so my pc can run it
Cheat code Doomguy would still stalemate with Lo Wang from Shadow Warrior as well tbh
Doomguy can die just fine, he just happens not to.
We were talking about all cheats
W invuln
Ah, okay.
They both get steamrolled by everyone’s favorite Build protagonist Leonard
he forgor how to do it
what can the gun do
Shoot at cyberdemons until it dies
fact
@sterile hamlet is doom the dark ages going to have combat that’s similar to doom 2016? And will there be glory kills, i know you can’t for sure confirm anything but it would be nice to know
what are they
Unfortunately that is not my information to share, wouldn't want to steal marketing's thunder 😉
Alright, I will wait and see
You're the DOOM developer?!
Cool.
Is the game gonna be better than eternal just asking yes or no?
Personal opinion most likely
Ok
i just want to say... let them cook.
That's subjective
I'm excited for dark ages
Yeah I'll let em'
well, the is a strong word. one of many lol
and I would certainly hope so, that's always the goal 😉 still cooking in the oven
I CANT WAIT ANYMORE 😭😭😭😭
I AGREE
take your time, i know a masterpiece will come out of it.
I HAVE WATCHED THE TRAILER COUNTLESS TIMES!!!!!
I know it will
All I want is for it to be a good game, doesn't have to be the best doom, just a good game.
Yes
"The Best Doom" title is subjective anyway
I feel like the only reason why they're showing us the trailer and the game is releasing the same year as gta 6 because they don't was their fanbase and community to go to gta 6
Agree?
no
?
Very different games
There's no competition, haedly any risk of anyone running to GTA 6 and ignoring TDA
But I mean it's been 12 years since the last gta came out so wouldn't everybody be attracted?
I guess
A lot of people would, yeah, but it's not really sharing the same space as TDA
Eternal launched at the same time as COD warzone yet it was huge
And COD and Doom overlap a lot more
Not really how that works. That is competition in a way, but its indirect, rather than direct. People will most likely buy GTA 6, but it will most likely not stop the DOOM community from buying The Dark Ages. If anything, maybe some members of the community would just take a while longer to buy The Dark Ages because they were saving up for GTA 6 instead, but they would likely still buy The Dark Ages.
Yes.
hell yea ig
Ok
can you imagine another launch date coincidence like animal crossing new horizons but gta 6 instead?
that'd be interesting
I feel like most game companies are releasing their next games like near 2025 like recently we got fc 25, gta 6 ofcourse, doom the dark ages, black ops 6 etc.
This just in: video games will release in 2025
black ops 6 is not releasing in 2025 (at least right now, it could get delayed i suppose)
I meant like near 2025
It is releasing in october this year but you're right it could get delayed for reasons
Nah, callofduty releases every year, it's definition of conveyor belt now
Call of duty has always been an annual release, wdym "now"
I am aware of this. I only included the comment about the delay in case the reader was going to comment "you don't know that it wont come out in 2025" or something along those lines
BETHESDAAAAAAA, RELEASE DOOM THE DARK AGES ON LAST GEN, AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
i hope the gtx 1650 can handle doom tda when its released 😞
I hope Death Match will be a thing in Dark Ages.
I just hope that the game will work on the steam deck
since that's what I use for high-end gaming
It will. Eternal was handeled by mine like a cake
hope so, i also finished the doom eternal campaign on my laptop that has a gtx 1650 before i got an upgrade
money.
people are only going to want to buy 1 of the games
then maybe buy the other one later down the road
Maybe on low settings hopefully it might be
I agree like multiplayer mode 1v1s and also I hope they add where you can invite your friends on campaign missions that'd be really cool
Because like if I'm having trouble beating a missions I'm grabbing bro for that one
Cause it'd be tough deciding whether you should play doom or gta
I'm taking doom over GTA any day
Good man
Agree
DOOM
DOOM
BTW how hyped are yall for DOOM the dark ages?
∞/10
Couldn't say it better myself.
^^^
From my understanding I believe they’re announcing more about it at quake con
When is new game dropping
the dark ages aren't dark enough.
@sterile hamlet sorry to bother you again, but is the chain shield going to have a melee capability like the og chainsaw? Like is there going to be a melee slash and not just a bash?
Most likely
Same
bro why do you think devs can say anything?
dont ping devs
if eternal was able to run on a deck (idk if it does i don't able a steam deck) then im sure dark ages will run on one
It says in his bio that we can??
He is allowing us to ping him
Ok, did not see that until now
Np
But assume that if it has not been revealed, then they cant answer it
Hey, do you think that in a new doom game we will be able to see the slayer with the "god mode" power, you know. the power up
do y’all think the dark ages will have multiplayer?
if it does i hope its like doom 2016
Power ups besides berserk aren’t “canon”
Most likely, although there’s a vocal minority that wishes they don’t make one
i just hope battle mode doesnt come back, that was a 2 pack of crap
It’s not the worst thing in the world, it just needed constant balancing and maintenance from the devs. Also doesn’t help that you’re barely able to get a lobby these days
He can’t confirm anything
My bad
It could ruin the game I guess
Also developers are under NDA
Somewhere next year
Or the next next year
Unfortunately my answer hasn't changed from last time, revealing info would be stealing marketing's thunder 😉
Might be out of topic, but it’d be cool if Doom Slayer could use the 2016 Crucible as a weapon, always wanted to use it even though it’d probably just function like the eternal crucible & if it doesn’t end up in the game, oh well, atleast I got the chain shield
Y'all think doom the dark ages gonna have skins like eternal?
I think it probably will
probably
At the end of the game, Doom Slayer will go like "No King Novik, We are The Dark Ages" and then kill all the demons with the power of friendship
you'll reveal it for me, right boo? 👉 👈
I don't like how we see his face through the mask I hope they change it to where it isn't transparent
Compared to eternal they seem to have dialed down the transparency quite a bit at least
Personally I think he looks more intimidating in 2016 where we can't see his face
I don't think he should talk in the new one
I think at this point in the timeline he had just gone mute so I'd be surprised if he spoke
I don't exactly think he went mute I think he just forgot how to speak
It's possible the divinity machine scrambled his brain a little bit but I'm more on the boat of it being a conscious decision
Yeah I googles it he apparently didn't see a need to speak
There you go
Imagine if the demons could speak
I mean it looked that way in the trailer im pretty sure
fine fine vega
Men i like the shield is so badass
Quake skin needs to return fr its the best opportunity
Quake in general needs a returne
Another studio would likely be involved but it would be cool if once the modern doom series is cooling off Id uses a lot of already very quake like design for a full reboot
Yeah I agree but this is also likely because many older games are getting the spotlight next year metroid gears stuff like that
Ok ok, I will wait. I honestly can’t wait for it!
What are you mean
Rocky road or Neapolitan?
Neapolitan, I have a strawberry bias
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