the-dark-ages

[misty beacon]

hell, its a fully fledged heavy metal album and even comes with a free game, for just 4 bucks

(yeah i just made that "joke")

[winter idol]

call of duty black ops 2, a game that came out in 2012, is 20 bucks on steam

[misty beacon]

hahaha

[outer onyx]

a singular clap

[winter idol]

🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮

[outer onyx]

nintendo sells 30 year old games for 60 bucks

[misty beacon]

okay chill

[winter idol]

nintendo also dosnt sell 20 year old games but takes down piracy sites that give out their games even though nintendo makes no money regardless

[outer onyx]

games that you can just fucking emulate at this point

[misty beacon]

lil offtopic, but since ur here:
I love power rename :3

[winter idol]

oh it named the tracks?

[misty beacon]

getting rid of the clutter with the id's and numbers

yea

[winter idol]

thats convienent

[misty beacon]

########################################
# EVERYTHING BETWEEN "START" AND "END" #
# >USE REGULAR EXPRESSIONS=TRUE        #
######################################## 
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
'' Example "cultist_base_music_cine_1_id#258411817.ogg" > "cultist_base_music_cine_1.ogg" ''
''                            [START]  ['BETWEEN']  [END]                                 ''
''                            [_id#]   [258411817]  [.ogg]                                ''
''                        >>>        _id#[\s\S]*ogg        <<<                            ''
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

Regex-Pattern:
START[\s\S]*END

Works really well in this case and with how the files are named

[hearty raft]

Ye cuz it’s activismo 💀

Activiston*

Im just dumb 💀

[wicked osprey]

4 US dollars for amazing campaign, arena multiplayer and awesome fucking level editor.
If its not worth it idk what is

[chrome hearth]

Glass of water.

[native geode]

whats the worst demon in yalls opionion i hate the tyrant

[median quail]

the archvile

or a possesed marauder

[hard thistle]

Ice bomb (with frostbite) + 2 lockon bursts go crazy

[native geode]

i love the maraduers design

[humble quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doomguy-gif-366884463840825135

Awaiting the father of all games

[hard thistle]

this ones probly uniquw to me but possessed mancubus

cyber or regular

[elder raven]

honestly insane how a 2d shooter from 1993 with barely any actual story with a silly looking guy at the bottom of the screen turned into this

[sonic turret]

To me, my shield!

[summer vault]

i've been mentally preparing myself for the dark ages

bought every single doom game on steam and have been flying through 1, 2, 3 and 64

still need to play 2016 as well

[wicked osprey]

Cant believe there are so many people who played eternal but not 2016 nowadays

[sonic turret]

I played them all in order, except for 64 which I played later.

[hard thistle]

I aint tryna sit through 2016's obnoxiously long loading screens

[narrow cloud]

It’s not actually that long of loading tbh, your pc might just be slow
Also this is the dark ages channel btw

[lethal smelt]

is Doom: The Dark Ages a prequel of Doom 2016?

and is it a sequel of Doom 64?

[pulsar agate]

🔥

oh shit I forgot i put this username

[unborn tiger]

elon musk

oh wait he isn't in doom

[hard thistle]

A sequel to tag2 where the doomslayer spends eternity inside the sarcophagus, hence the name "dark ages" because there is no light inside

[north spire]

its like the modern day equivelant of playing half life 2 over half life

or playing team fortress 2 over team fortress classi-actually wait that one makes more sense nevermind :p

[neon gust]

Yes actually

[graceful acorn]

Whiplash (trust me, you don't wanna fight with this demon on Play Station 💀)

[outer quiver]

Welcome to the underground

I didnt played doom 2, 64 and 3 btw

[outer onyx]

"how are your balls"

[fluid vine]

yes it's set in "the first age, the first battle" when demons first invaded

[wicked osprey]

Not at all, team fortress one is super outdated compared to tf2, half life one is also a bit..
While doom 2016 even tho its graphically lesser then eternal, is still visually more stunning, with more particles effect

[wicked osprey]

Theres… the spirit, the cursed prowler, the screecher…
All are very lazy, uninspired, recycled demons..
If I have to pick one think on paper id pick the spirit, because it forces you to use a certain mod on a certain weapon on time and is overall not fun to fight.

[outer onyx]

spirit is at least kinda fun to fight when it occupies a big demon

stone imp is the worst one i think

[wicked osprey]

Well the imp is another lazy recycled enemy.. but at least the stone imp isnt a pain in the ass

[outer onyx]

but he is a nothing addition

cursed prowler, spirits and screechers at least change up the encounters

stone imp is just "im an imp but use the mod you dont like to kill me, or go glory kill enemies to get a hammer"

[north spire]

not too big on the stone imps personally

[wicked osprey]

Same thing I can say about spirits just they are way harder

[north spire]

i get what they were trying to do, but it didn't end up working imo

ill take the nightmare imps any day

oh yea shit i forgot about the demonic troopers

theyre more like stage hazards than actual enemies

[outer onyx]

oh right they do exist

...they look cool at least?

[north spire]

do the micro missiles do anything?

[outer onyx]

i dont think so

[north spire]

heck

[outer onyx]

but i havent tried also so take that with a grain of salt

[north spire]

ok

but yea the spirits are a way better execution of the idea behind stone imps imo

[outer onyx]

also we should probably be talking about this in the eternal chat lol

[north spire]

ok

[red tusk]

So excited for this game

[uneven notch]

guess am i fat or not ?

[hint i am fat]

[deft cairn]

its not even that bad

[graceful acorn]

There is even worse demon???

Hell no

[deft cairn]

whiplash isnt bad

just lock on rocket him

or if its specter whiplashes just use the destroyer blade mod for the ballista

[graceful acorn]

Make sense

[deft cairn]

or ice bomb to make them visible

[lethal smelt]

Nice

[lethal smelt]

Nice²

[celest sun]

I really hope we get a clear explanation of what happened between the events of Doom 64 and Dark Ages.

I hope as well they explain why the demons keep changing in their form. Why they always look different every installment.

[neon perch]

Or you could kill whatever it's targeting before it has a chance to buff it.

you could even freeze it for extra damage. even if the spirit manages to inhabit the demon, it'll still be incapable of doing anything and basically have no buffs until it thaws.

[deft cairn]

Evolution or cybernetic enhancements

[neon perch]

IIRC because the denizens of Hell look different depending on the region. meaning every demon canonically has a different appearance depending where in Hell you are.

[misty beacon]

@hard thistle isnt that basically what we can expect in #the-dark-ages

[hard thistle]

Yes.

[hard thistle]

You can check the timeline in the lore guide, pinned in the Eternal channel.

[misty beacon]

So eternal, if you listen/read the ingame lore, spoilers everything that will happen in dark ages :D

nice lol

[hard thistle]

Lol yeah, there will probably be major plot points they'll introduce and I'm sure they've come up with new shit, but unfortunately we already know how the events of The Dark Ages turn out and it isn't good.

[misty beacon]

Lets fuck up the timeline

I only recently realized, the earth in eternal, isnt our earth lol

Its another dimension/version isnt it?

[hard thistle]

Yeah, alternate Earth from the one in the original games or Doom 3.

[misty beacon]

And the khan maykr is basically slayers mommy? xD

[placid saffron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1249421397927923762/1258830153220493333/sentinel_history_07.tgabc3streamed.png?ex=66897870&is=668826f0&hm=b711525b4f5d2fb049f26b49f2942125c3a1bdbac97b9641158adba13c605ece&
can't wait to see this masterpiece unfold

[misty beacon]

The father gave the seed and allat

[placid saffron]

isn't there a sentinel translation guide? what does the text say

[misty beacon]

@hard thistle

in the german voice over they even say "it was the father who gave the seed"

[hard thistle]

Yeah, there are a lot of interesting cut lines from the Khan.

Like one that mentions Doomguy's Earth from the "seventh dimension."

[misty beacon]

yeah!

Thats how i noticed that "eternals earth" isnt ours

Also funny how Urdak was called "Maykr-Land" early on haha

Sounds like a theme park xD

[misty beacon]

found it

[placid saffron]

cut lines are unlikely to be canon though, especially after tag2

[misty beacon]

yeah true that, but still interesting to see what they had in mind

But also helps to draw some other conclusions or give at least some context

[soft turret]

This drawing has always looked so silly to me bro

[misty beacon]

well... its fanservice, as this is the "OG Armor"

[soft turret]

Doomguy's helmet looks so goofy 😭

[misty beacon]

thats how he looked like in the original games :D

[soft turret]

I'm aware

[misty beacon]

i rather take this fanservice moment than some weird "recreation"

[placid saffron]

the whole scene just feels silly lol

the classic armor, the swordfighting, the halo, the betrayer just standing in the background

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/890909009526267935/1258834546422448168/image.png?ex=66897c87&is=66882b07&hm=bbf5796b1d4140541f31cfcf64937f20ce5edbfabd0ae1be1283bd854981ba9e&
😭 is this a fucking coat of arms??

[soft turret]

The fucking doomguy with the cross behind him

LOOKS LIKE IT LOL

Ain't no way they made the coat of arms of the crown of argenta a guy with a big goofy helmet

[misty beacon]

Speaking of silly xD

[placid saffron]

dear god

[misty beacon]

Its soooooooo corny

btw. that was meant to play shorty before the IOS fight

At some point it wasnt planned that VEGA stays in urdak

he was just meant to "temporary stay" to hold some gates open

at least as far as i understood from the files

[hard thistle]

The cut lines aren't reliable now (especially with the Khan blood stuff) but some of it is definitely indicative of the vision they had, like the alt Earth shit.

I would not say the seventh dimension line is "evidence" for this, but it corroborates it.

[placid saffron]

i mean the khan could always just use the strongest piece of power ever: lying

[hard thistle]

The Tower of Babel was also meant to be in the game but was scrapped.

We even have Steam cards of it IIRC.

[misty beacon]

There

thats the trading card image of "Tower of Babel"

[placid saffron]

barely too late

[misty beacon]

huh?

[placid saffron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/890909009526267935/1258838543023734844/image.png?ex=66898040&is=66882ec0&hm=91f34ed1b7711979e99858ae309f571bbbc76504dd129eda8b1f8a08636f701c&

[misty beacon]

ahh lol

[hexed stag]

the image wont show what am i looking at

[placid saffron]

i was about to poste it too

[misty beacon]

Well u posted the smol one :D
Good team haha

[placid saffron]

the doomguy 1v1 swordfight against a sentinel, the upper left corner

[hard thistle]

Yeah. Originally it was going to be a blast to the past - you would be returning to the Hell region from the original game, enter the Tower of Babel (this is why the first Cyberdemon enemy is here in Eternal), and fight Erebus, ruler of Babel.

[hexed stag]

in the trailer?

[hard thistle]

I guess they realized this didn't make sense timeline-wise with the lore, and turned it into Nekravol instead.

[misty beacon]

browsing through the extracted gamefiles is such a journey

cant wait to fully unpack and analyze dark ages :D

[tame crag]

odds of seeing a unmodified doom hunter or marauder in dark ages?

[deft cairn]

marauder probably not

doom hunter is already confirmed

in the trailer

[placid saffron]

marauders we probably will
considering they are literally just sentinels

[deft cairn]

eh idk

corrupted sentinels

[misty beacon]

Hopefully!

[placid saffron]

from their point of view, the doomguy-supporters where corrupted!

[lime kraken]

that looks sick

[misty beacon]

[lime kraken]

Woah!!!

I can't wait

[misty beacon]

Hope we get more of Valens Backstory too!

[fresh path]

Kinda sad that we didn’t.

[hard thistle]

Doom Hunter? Likely. The gladiator-looking enemy appears to be an Agaddon Hunter.
Marauder, unclear. The term "Marauder" refers to a Loyalist Night Sentinel that is fighting against the Slayer. This game seems to take place before the Argenta Civil War, so we may not see that.

But we'll probably see more Sentinels, some of which may end up being Marauders in the future.

[fresh path]

I kinda hope we get to fight an Archdemon at some point.

[brazen crystal]

I hope the game doesn't go too overboard with open endedness

I'm worried it's gonna be like Doom 2 city levels or an open world

[fossil sigil]

do you think doom the dark ages will have dashes return?

[placid saffron]

shield-bashing

[gilded lake]

hope we get to actually meet him

[drifting solstice]

Gotta get my grubby hands on a PS5

[elder raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1256712479510233133/1258901559195074641/image.png?ex=6689baf0&is=66886970&hm=e9a68331da006884ec1415e7c0544a9af890fcd59d3da0e8609913a44308fc47& based on if they're coming to tda

[winter idol]

a doom game with no cyberdemon would be insane

[visual totem]

Fr

[winter idol]

I like how the hell knight has barely changed between all 3 games

[fresh path]

The Cyberdemon has been in about everything.
Was it in 64?

[sonic turret]

I mean even Arachnotrons and Mancubuses are Cyberdemons, I mean a manner of speaking.

[sonic turret]

Yeah

[fresh path]

If it does appear, it’ll either look like the Tyrant from Eternal.
Or way more Medival.

Unless they sneak in a Baalgar.

[sonic turret]

Probably they'll give it a new characteristic appearance.

[gusty moth]

why is icon of sin no

[delicate grotto]

We just fought it in the last game, on top of it already showing up in Doom 2 and Final Doom. I don’t think many players are itching to fight it again, lol.

[delicate grotto]

Hoping they do

[sonic turret]

Because he's dead. He's in a better place.

[wicked osprey]

Demonic troop

[wicked osprey]

What an unused enemy

[cyan lotus]

turret being in likely, and marauder being in likely, I heavily disagree with

[fresh path]

If anything Marauders might be in a DLC.

[brazen crystal]

Nah they gotta have the spaghetti sauce covered Meatball in TDA, it's Doom's demon mascot

After playing Doom 2 I don't want the normal meatball

Also lost souls should be higher, they suck but they've been in every Doom game and they'll fit in TDA

[tribal lagoon]

is that supposed to be Valens son on the left or just a new Sentinel type?

[tribal lagoon]

Cacos, Barons, and Lost Souls should be in 100% they've been in every single Doom game since the beginning

Gargoyles should also be 100% the lore says there native to Sentinel Prime

[acoustic meadow]

Are Barons in Doom 3?

[wanton glacier]

Nah the imp is def not coming whatchu talking about /j

[wanton glacier]

They are in every doom game

[acoustic meadow]

i just don’t specifically remember them appearing in Doom 3 tho

[acoustic meadow]

totally, especially after what he said on Twitter

bros public image is ruined

[wanton glacier]

They looked drastically different then they do now

[acoustic meadow]

Were they called a different name?

[wanton glacier]

I'll find the wiki page one sec

[acoustic meadow]

“Although the Baron of Hell was never featured in Doom 3, the Hell Knight iteration shares a lot more similarities to it than it's classic counterpart in that game. The Doom 3 Hell Knight has nearly equivalent hitpoints of 900 (original Baron of Hell had 1000 points) thus serving as one of the elite high-tier enemies, and it's introductory cutscene mirrors the Baron of Hell's debut in the first episode of the original Doom.”

[wanton glacier]

WAIT THEY WERENT IN DOOM 3?!?!

[acoustic meadow]

I guess not

[wanton glacier]

WHAT

[acoustic meadow]

rest in peace barons

gotta bump them down to the unlikely tier now

[wanton glacier]

And the baron in doom eternal wasn't even that good, he was too techy

I liked plain baron compared to the armored one

[acoustic meadow]

kinda funny how his right hand is just a naval mine tho

[wanton glacier]

I personally think the icon of sin will be in the game cause it's pre-doomguy fucking stabbing him in the noggin

Like an earlier less techy icon

[acoustic meadow]

he might make a cameo like 2016 but I don’t see him playing a big role

[wanton glacier]

When I replayed 2016 i thought that was so cool when I noticed it, if you shoot a rocket in his head doesn't he like shoot out a cube that spawns a random enemy?

[acoustic meadow]

the cube spawns a DoomGuy collectible

I think it’s the hazmat suit

[wanton glacier]

Ahhhh right right

Forgot about that

I searched everywhere for that damn one

[outer quiver]

icon will be in his human form i think, because it's Son of Betrayer, who was revived by demons in this form

[elder raven]

the icon of sin is a no but valens son might be a yes

[gusty moth]

O that's what I meant yeh

[pale matrix]

do we know if Dark Ages is coming out on the Switch or not?

[outer onyx]

Can that thing even handle it

[languid nexus]

The trailer never mentioned it coming to switch so probably not. My guess as to why would be that the switch wouldn't be able to handle it

[hard thistle]

Well if a calculator can handle normal doom then why not right

[fleet spruce]

definitely not coming on switch, switch 2 at best

[soft turret]

Poor thing would get fried

[normal sand]

so do I assume correctly that The Dark Ages will be a prequel?

[fleet spruce]

Yes, after events of 64 and before 2016

[normal sand]

thanks!

it's always a bit funny playing a prequel game after the modern versions, wonder how will they implement the feeling that we are in 'old' times, but the gameplay, weapons, suit can't be weaker, slower 😵

[soft turret]

The gameplay will be slower

That's the point

[outer quiver]

Doom Eternal on switch exists

[deft cairn]

not the same

DOOM: The Dark Ages is PS5 exclusive

and PC

[outer quiver]

I didnt saw big graphical improvements

[outer quiver]

Xbox Pc Ps5

[deft cairn]

yeah maybe because the game releases in 1 FUCKING YEAR

not accounting for delays if that happens btw

[outer quiver]

Eternal wasnt released on switch on day 1

I think they released even because of Todd Howard sayed, hey, if we sold skyrim to same ppl over and over, why not sell some other ip's

[deft cairn]

not the point

eternal wasnt ps5 exclusive

and Switch2 comes next year if you have paid any attention to the internet over the last year

[noble oyster]

Yeah cuz they needed to access the hand of God to port it

[deft cairn]

and it still sucks ass

[noble oyster]

It was the best they could do. It retains the eternal identity and thats all that matters

[outer quiver]

Ps5 funboys can call anything exclusive for their platform, when i see any PS trailer they never mention any other platform it releases on, exept ps

[deft cairn]

"Wah wah wah"

Bro I have a ps4 😭🙏🏾

[deft cairn]

bro it literally said PS5 at the end of the trailer

you need to wake the fuck up

[noble oyster]

Better than the ark port too

[deft cairn]

and no ps4 at the side of it either

[outer quiver]

You know they did it only to sold PS5 more, knowing id software and their engine they could port it on PS4, but sony dont want that, they need money from selling last generation

[deft cairn]

womp womp

anyways I will buy a PS5 this summer so yeah

and PS4 is not as powerful as you like to think it is

[noble oyster]

Itd be 5 years since the ps5 dropped when TDA drops bro. You had 5 years to save up

[deft cairn]

it doesn't have a steady 60 FPS count even

[noble oyster]

W bro, ive been enjoying my ps5

[outer quiver]

It was ok for it's time honestly. And unique, ps5 now just a pc with playstation os

[outer quiver]

Because sony restricts it to 30, check what ppl do with uncaping framerate on ps4

[noble oyster]

Man i wish i could have an uncapped framerate option on games

[deft cairn]

Its not restricted to 30

now you are literally just pulling random lies outta your ass

[outer quiver]

Bro it is

[deft cairn]

its 60 but its uneven

[outer quiver]

I think i just woke up someone from sony dream

[deft cairn]

okay bro r u on fent because what are you talking about

[deft cairn]

@noble oyster the fuck is he talking about

[deft cairn]

L gaslighting

[outer quiver]

Just google it you dummy

[deft cairn]

thats what Ive been saying bruuh

and TDA almost has better graphics than Eternal already

[outer quiver]

I'm not going to buy PS, i'm on PC

[noble oyster]

It'll come on pc bro no way it doesnt

I was rocking with it last year

[fierce cradle]

Any leaks on a potential PvP system

[deft cairn]

no

[pine citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-slayer-shield-buzzsaw-gif-10725702279841684388

[carmine folio]

I know this probably won't happen, but imagine if they used one of Keygen Church's songs. I think that would be cool.

[misty beacon]

what songs?

[misty beacon]

nope and sadly (even if i would looove to personally), were not allowed to discuss any leaks here, even if there were any

[carmine folio]

For me, I would think that Tenebre Rosso Sangue would be good.

If they used others, that's also cool. I'm a fan of Keygen Church. that's why I brought this up.

[misty beacon]

ohhh i see where ur coming from with this!
Yeah, sounds badass, but i imagine it would be a challenge to make it fit into the game/theme of The Dark Ages

But a pipe organ in a DOOM Soundtrack would hit differently i can imagine!

[spare birch]

Am I the only one that thinks classic rock would sound badass in doom or no

[cyan lotus]

You are the only one, if I hear hotel California in doom I’m blowing my computer up

[spare birch]

I’m talking like AC/DC scorpions Metallica guns and roses and mötley crüe

[cyan lotus]

yea that’d probably be good

[edgy cipher]

Watching paint dry would be more enjoyable than a Switch port of TDA, I would imagine

[outer quiver]

I played with ac/dc music in doom 2016, was good for me

[storm fiber]

it'll be on steam iirc

[sonic turret]

@edgy cipher is that Andrew Ryan? I noticed there's a guy that looks similar in Fallout too.

[harsh pier]

why not ps5 or 4

[hard thistle]

It is coming to ps5

[torn frigate]

huh?

and xbox

[hard thistle]

Well yeah

They straight up tell you in the trailer it's insane that this has to be explained

Not gonna lie, I just knew that it's not coming to the PS4 mostly because the graphics look AMAZING!! Yet too much to handle for that console to run it.

[frosty compass]

Seriously anyone tell me this ISN'T the type of stuff you'd like to hear in the upcoming Doom

https://youtu.be/qMHnzbSw6cw?si=8k3t33A0MLVpJ1XO

[honest vortex]

Wait

[frosty compass]

I think the riff in the trailer literally sounds like "what people who don't listen to metal think metal sounds like"

People expecting new AAA titles to come out on switch at this point reminds me of when I thought I could get Black Ops 2 to run on Intel Celeron integrated graphics back in the day

[frosty compass]

Hell, nvm this

Just get Humanity's Last Breath on TDA's OST

[north spire]

Or Geoff

Geoff would also be good too

[frosty compass]

Hell yeah

[north spire]

Whoever it is, I hope they choose someone good

[frosty compass]

Unless id doesn't wanna go for Geoff's "synth-y" style

Which I would be totally okay with

As long as the entire game doesn't sound like that trailer...

[north spire]

Who knows, maybe this could be an instance of one track being a demo that won’t be used in the final game

Doom’s no stranger to that, remember that electronic rendition of At Doom’s Gate?

[frosty compass]

Praying it won't be used rn🙏

[north spire]

Or the 200bpm track from Eternal?

[north spire]

I’m personally fine with it

When does quake con happen?

[soft turret]

August

Don't know the exact date tho

[frosty compass]

8 through 11

[north spire]

Oh ok

Do you think TDA is gonna be shown?

[soft turret]

It's very likely

[frosty compass]

The urge to buy an 8 string hasn't left my mind since I heard that damn song

[outer quiver]

I believe switch have so little new titles, ppl hope to get anything, even if it runs in 20 fps lmao

[winter idol]

It would be absolutely insane if they didnt show it. Even if they somehow didnt which is like a 1% chance, gamescom is 2 weeks after quake con and microsoft said they are going to have a large showing there

[edgy cipher]

Mr House

[hard thistle]

Bro the trailer looks 🔥

[uncut nebula]

What the dark ages? Never heard of this in any doom context before

[grim cloud]

You hope, but no quakecon marketing hype for TDA

[uncut nebula]

Is this for heretic/hexen and the like?

[soft turret]

No

It's from a period in nudoom lore between doom 64 and doom 2016

[visual totem]

We really need crossplay in the dark age's multiplayer if it ends up having one

[fast pasture]

Not sure if it been confirmed or not, but does any know if weapon mods will be returning or is the shield meant to be the replacement

[winter idol]

Idk, i remember quake con announcements being made like 1-2 weeks before quake con in the past, same with older doom eternal announcements

[sonic turret]

https://tenor.com/view/andrew-andrew-ryan-gif-25677001

[grim cloud]

for Eternal, they mentions "more at quakecon" right after the reveal

[winter idol]

that was also during E3 when hugo and marty were actually on stage and had a chance to talk about it

[grim cloud]

yes that is what im talking about. Right now there is nothing. I guess we wont know till a week before once they release schedule

[winter idol]

yea

[upper glacier]

so does this mean doom slayers super shotgun isnt the same gun from 64

im guessing its a new gun he forged to be a double barrel but of sentinel design

[sonic turret]

What's the rush? Are you worried that they've changed their mind or something?

[sonic turret]

Dunno, I'd like to think he'd have a collection of various different shotguns.

No, it takes place after Doom 64, so the UAC stuff from the classic Doom has already happened.

It happens between Doom 64 and Doom 2016.@hexed bolt

So the UAC stuff will flank it at either side.

But classic Doom begins with the UAC moon facilities already having been overrun by demons. Doom 3, though in a different timeline, is the best representation of the first contact and initial invasion taking place. @hexed bolt

I'd imagine we'll see pre-Marauders, or perhaps they were already Marauders and defected prior to being possessed by the demon world.

For example, they may have been Argenta, or even Sentinel Knights who fell off either before or after hell got to them.

It's definitely worth a play through and you'll see how it connects to the rest of the franchise.

Probably around ten hours maybe more with the expansions. It's not a push forward combat game though, it's more of a survival / action horror game.

And it's very story driven.

Play it at night withe the lights out and some non-spicy snacks.

@winter idol what happened, did he get banned?

[hard thistle]

Why they delete all their comments

[sonic turret]

I think he got booted.

He had a slightly provocative username.

[misty beacon]

literally had a pedophile flag, get the fuck outta here

[sonic turret]

Yeah, I notice that, but the spelling was different, I think he was trying to be ironic by suggesting the opposite or something.

[misty beacon]

yeah, not funny.

The whole profile just creeped the hell outta me. wtf is wrong with people.

[hard thistle]

Oh I didn’t even notice 😭

[upper glacier]

they have a flag?

[upper glacier]

tf does it look like

i find it crazy how the demons we see in dark ages rn are extinct after

and the fact that one of those extinct variants is the OG imp

[fresh path]

It’s interesting to see that Imps became smaller and more agile.

It almost makes the Doom 3 iteration seem like a weird transitional form.

[tribal lagoon]

We dont know if the classic Imps are extinct. After all Doom 3's Imps arent exticnt there just living somewhere else in Hell

[upper glacier]

True but it most definitely is cuz if they kept imps design similar with 2016 and eternal

And here it's og imo

I'm pretty sure thats implied

[tribal lagoon]

Also considering how Doomguy at some point was in the Doom 3 universe (The 'Hero of Mars' stuff and all that) theres a scene in TDA trailer where Doomguys fighting a Titan in what looks like a UAC facility on Mars. Im wondering if maybe we'll get to see that battle alongside possibly returning demons from Doom 3

[tribal lagoon]

Only demon species that was ever implied to be almost extinct or on the brink are the og Hell Knights

[upper glacier]

That and the aggadon Hunter's

[tribal lagoon]

ah right them

[tribal lagoon]

Although judging from how Deag Ranak says "Agaddon Hunters from the Telos realm" makes me think they aren't native to Hell

then again Gargoyles are also considered demons and they arent native to Hell either

[sonic turret]

According to the Codex, the Agaddon hunters are originally from Earth I think.

Yeah, the Agaddon Hunters are indigenous to prehistoric Earth.

[hard thistle]

Doom 3 demons are kind of oddballs in the overall hierarchy

[sonic turret]

The Codex also states that the Gargoyle is native to Sentinel Prime.

[hard thistle]

Like a lot of returning demons in 2016 and especially eternal are designed to be reminiscent of classic demon enemies

So it can be assumed they’re the same species or closely related at least

man does this mean we getting the true classic iterations in full 3d in TDA?

[fallen notch]

Thanks for making Slayer more badass with that cape. 😎

Aliens are green,
Demons are nocturnal.
Halo might be infinite,
But DOOM IS ETERNAL!

[distant palm]

cant wait until this channel is more active than eternal in 2025

[sonic turret]

It was more active when the game was announced.

[hard thistle]

But yeah Doom demons are weird you got like 4 different species who are simultaneously called the same moniker existing in hell

[distant palm]

the shield looks sick

[fallen notch]

Fr.

[hard thistle]

Doom 2, Doom 2016, and Doom 3 Mancubi existed at the same time

[sonic turret]

Yeah, I believe someone made a shield mod for Doom 2 based on it.

[distant palm]

gotta check that out

[fallen notch]

Btw whoever gave Slayer a cape needs a raise.

[hard thistle]

Took notes from GoW Ragnarok

[distant palm]

lookin like an even better kratos

[hard thistle]

Fur capes make your protag look 10 times more badass

[fallen notch]

Ikr.

[sonic turret]

I mean I'm guessing that in reality, no two Mancubuses would look exactly the same, just as no two humans look exactly alike, and perhaps the same could be said for all other demon species.

[sonic turret]

I dunno, they'll be making him wear tights with briefs over the top next.

[fallen notch]

Y’all think Slayer would beat Kratos?

[distant palm]

100%

[fallen notch]

Same.

[hard thistle]

Anatomically Doom 2/Eternal, 2016, and 3 Mancubi are all very different despite sharing some traits so I’m assuming they’re all just closely related species

[sonic turret]

I think the cape would look good on an edit of the Barbarian skin.

[fallen notch]

That does sound cool now that I think about it actually.

[hard thistle]

Tbh I’m just hoping Doom 3 Hell Knights aren’t extinct

[sonic turret]

I never liked the Doom 64 version.

[hard thistle]

Shit I forgot about 64 lol

Another one to add

[fallen notch]

It wasn’t that bad, but still not good lol.

[sonic turret]

It looked horrible. I'm blaming Ed Boon.

[hard thistle]

The designs in 64 are hit or miss

[sonic turret]

Because I don't know who was responsible, so Ed gets the blame.

[sonic turret]

Having grown up with classic Doom, I wasn't overly impressed with how Doom 64 ran, especially compared to other games like Goldeneye and Perfect Dark.

[hard thistle]

The cyberdemon, barons/hell knights, pinkies, revenant, and mother demon went pretty hard

The rest I don’t care for though

Guess the lost souls and arachnotrons looks alright

[sonic turret]

I thought it felt inferior to the classic Doom designs.

[brazen crystal]

I would've liked that outfit if he had something covering his face

[brazen crystal]

I don't get it, am I stupid?

Oh fak

I am

STUPID.

[brazen crystal]

No I am

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/clone-clones-buzz-lightyear-toy-story-gif-21609842

[hard thistle]

Well, looks like I’ve missed a whole party over here. How is everyone?

[hard thistle]

R/doom moment

[north spire]

something i noticed about the game footage is that the first piece of gameplay has speed lines bordering around the screen

does that mean the speed boost after glory kill rune returns?

or is there a new "speed boost" mechanic this time?

[hard thistle]

Good eye, you may be on to something

[north spire]

thank :)

[hard thistle]

Hello everyone

[north spire]

hello!

[unreal terrace]

greetings

[hard thistle]

I can’t wait for the new doom game to come out what are your guys opinions about the trailer

[unreal terrace]

W trailer looks awesome, skull gun go brrrr

[hard thistle]

Haha

I wonder if they will add more slayers for customization like in eternal or suit upgrades

That would be cool

[north spire]

very very good :)

im curious to see who will be doing the music this time

obviously it aint mick, but both hulshult and levy confirmed that they're not returning so im not too sure who they're considering this time

[hard thistle]

I’m sure it will be good either way I’m sure Bethesda knows what they are doing hopefully

[north spire]

i like the trailer music, so that's a good sign so far

[north spire]

marty knows how to get good composers, he just sucks at actually keeping them for future projects

[hard thistle]

Yup

The dragon thing looks also really badass to fly

[north spire]

im more partial to the mech cause im a big godzilla fan :)

[hard thistle]

I agree it also looks really cool it looks fun to kill the big demons

I also think it’s funny as heck to use a skull as ammo

[north spire]

yea, its the most doom concept ive seen in a while

[hard thistle]

I wonder what the marauders will do and look like

What is a funny thing I should draw as a Cacodemon

[north spire]

the spy from team fortress 2

[hard thistle]

Alright

[wanton glacier]

I hope we see the slayers transition and some more of him speaking

[misty beacon]

pls dont... just have him shutup 😭

[wanton glacier]

Guts! Big guts! Must kill them all! Rip.. and tear!

Tell me... Do you have nothing to say to your creator before you strike him down!?!?
.......
No.

[misty beacon]

The No. should have been all weve ever gotten from him honestly.
The other lines made me cringe so hard

[cyan lotus]

I think they’re meant to though, I mean look where those lines originate from

[misty beacon]

idk... i really tried to get the idea behind that.
Even tried it in german and english. But it just feels sooooo wrong

[cyan lotus]

that whole cutscene i don’t even deem canon, I just see it as a vague plot device, because technically it does contradict the canon a teeny bit

[wanton glacier]

We need more doomslayer voice lines

So doomslayer without his powers is doomguy?

Are doomguy and doomslayer the same?

[cyan lotus]

see he should have the 64 helmet in that cutscene but instead he has the classic one, because that was newly established lore it needed to be spoonfed to a more casual audience

[silver garden]

According to cannon lore, yes

Had to Google it.

All doom games are intertwined, and I love that this all could have been avoided if his superior officer didn't order them to fire on innocent civilians

[wanton glacier]

Where does doom marine fit in all of this? From him going in the base cause nobody left to waking up in a sarcophagus

(i never played doom 3 or 64)

Does doom 2016 follow the events of 64 or 3?

[cyan lotus]

average message in this server

[wanton glacier]

LMFAO

[cyan lotus]

2016 follows the events of 64

[wanton glacier]

When does he get put in the sarcophagus

More importantly how

[cyan lotus]

the amount of people who shit on doom 3 just because other people had the opinion first is mind boggling, because it’s actually a good game

[wanton glacier]

It is

I like lore based slower games

[cyan lotus]

Like if anything the newer installments are the perversion from the formula, romero himself said the intention in 1 and 2 was for an atmospheric approach but couldn’t do so due to technical limitations then you got doom eternal here where you fling yourself a thousand miles per hour because why not

and being different doesn’t mean it’s bad either, my hours in eternal are ludicrous

[wanton glacier]

Aren't you a speedrunner lmao

[silver garden]

Long story short, he winds up on the shores of Argenta, and the night sentinel Seraphim gave him his powers and named him Doomslayer. Of course the Night Sentinels were killed off, so Doomslayer was the only one left. this is also where he gets his crucible blade

[wanton glacier]

Romero needs to release the complete and explained lore after TDA

[misty beacon]

romero doesnt work at id anymore

for decades already

[wanton glacier]

Fuck

Wouldnt he have it tho?

[silver garden]

Did that help any?

[wanton glacier]

He made the first two games

Oh the explanation

[misty beacon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/tfjpf7/at_dooms_gate_the_ultimate_guide_a_massive_200/

take this if u need lore

[wanton glacier]

I thought you said "did he help any?"

[silver garden]

Oh

[wanton glacier]

Does it explain everything correctly

[misty beacon]

yes

[silver garden]

I tried to shorten it as much as possible.

My bad

[misty beacon]

definitely better than any of those "DOOMGUY SO SKIBBIDY HE CAN BEAT KRATOS"-Lore Youtubers

[silver garden]

Kratos wins. Doom guy is a Demigod, kratos is A god. at the end of eternal, ig doomslayer is a god canonically

[misty beacon]

Always funny when they post a 5-10min video with the title "THE COMPLETE DOOM LORE"

Motherfucker... no its not.

[silver garden]

Also, why does it seem the Icon is immune to dying?

Like, we've killed him in almost every game now.

Just stay dead

[misty beacon]

He will, as long as the crucible blade is in his head

[silver garden]

Yeah, but then some UAC dumbass is gonna pull it out

SOMEHOW

[misty beacon]

The UAC can not control a WORLD EATER
Even THEY arent THAT stupid.

[cyan lotus]

I primarily do gameplay but I could probably make a better lore video than half the people out there

[silver garden]

You greatly underestimate their abilities

[misty beacon]

Probably lol
Petition for @hard thistle to make a complete lore video based on his guide

[misty beacon]

[silver garden]

That's the equivalent of saying Yamcha Isn't dumb enough to fight freiza

[misty beacon]

Also, why would they awake the icon. Like... there is literally no benefit

[silver garden]

Or saying that Yamcha won't die this time

[misty beacon]

They opened a portal to hell for the energy, not because they are stupid

[silver garden]

It's the UAC. They'll pull something out of their ass.

[misty beacon]

Think corpo. The UAC is a corporation afterall. For a corpo to do anything, there would be a personal gain

And there literally isnt

[silver garden]

Ok. Point seen, I raise you, ppl knew it went to hell. SOMEONE should've realized it was a bad idea

[hard thistle]

Skibidi toilet can beat Kratos

[silver garden]

I raise you: infinite energy source. Without the need for a portal. They just have so siphon his energy. He'd need to be awake, but catatonic

[hollow quartz]

is anyone else worried that doom TDA's combat wont be as fun as eternal's because of the lack of movement mechanics?

[wanton glacier]

There's enough to balance it out, like a captain America shield and their giving us kicking, we'll still probably have double jump and dash

The player base has gotten so used to it in eternal it would be kind of dumb of id to rip it from us

But I wouldn't put it past them considering some stuff they've done in the past

[radiant kettle]

thats the last thing i could be worried abt

doom eternals movement feels so meh after first playing it 4 years ago

umm ig i was addicted for so long but my point is that im pretty sure a lot of us want something new 🥰

[oblique cloak]

https://youtu.be/KFTCQ8QoWBI?si=rXeFG14a16xAkOwp

[craggy pewter]

Wow

[earnest swift]

Good argument.

Too bad the Slayer would probably find a way to fuck that whole process over again regardless.

[upper glacier]

wonder if this new game brings back the demons glory kills

[earnest swift]

Glory Kills are likely either completely different from those in "Eternal" & 2016 or straight up gone in "DA".

[wheat sigil]

I just want a game with a high skill roof, fast paced combat and tech

[upper glacier]

eh its a struggle here now that i see this

cuz kratos knew that if he and thor fought to the death they would both die

keep in mind he was able to wound thor cuz of the poison in his axe

[supple flower]

We've never actually seen the demons on the first Doom game's cover artwork in the actual gameplay... So imagine if The Dark Ages has them?

[lean flax]

yo guys

jakaajjasjafras

[plucky haven]

if doom eternal is ssbm then the dark ages is third strike

[prisma path]

doomguy titan umbilical cord

[hard thistle]

What is a doom related thing I should draw?

[elder raven]

draw a pain elemental

[hard thistle]

Ok

[sonic turret]

Because they're already dead.

[fading marten]

I just so hope that there is no video card check on startup. Eternal is one of the few games I can’t run on my Mac because of this.

[sonic turret]

At least be a bit more creative. How about "Draw a Pain Elemental picking flowers under a rainbow".

[warm ibex]

They make an appearance in some of the Sentinel codex art, so I think their inclusion is a fairly safe bet

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/848103588979146774/1259954853703192686/m2rw0gjli1e51.png?ex=668d8fe5&is=668c3e65&hm=f9fa37a1b5ce10033236fea530f95eb5377c31e09660ca2a74e5b2329d2a7fd4&

[hard thistle]

They just look like generic demon drawings tbh

Like they’re what your average person would think of when you say demon

We already have enough of that with the Icon and Barons anyways don’t see the point in including them

[neon perch]

I love the one on the left. he's so happy.

[sonic turret]

Who?

[sonic turret]

https://tenor.com/view/plot-armor-plot-armor-surprise-plot-armor-too-strong-gif-24937127

[silver garden]

Dragon Ball z joke

Yamcha is the weakest character

[hard thistle]

Part of Hell’s strategy when they conquer universes is to corrupt the inhabitants and turn them towards their side through promises of power, immortality, etc

That what they did in doom 3 and 2016

So like yeah people are making stupid decisions but that can mostly be pinned on the fact that they’re either on the side of the demons or are being manipulated by people who are.

[hard thistle]

The icon like all other titans can be resurrected after death

Hell revived the icon by using the soul of Valen’s son

[harsh rain]

humans are weaker

[pseudo notch]

You consume sand?

[hard thistle]

Yes

[pseudo notch]

Cool

[hard thistle]

Should I draw heavy from tf2 as a mancubus

[pseudo notch]

Yes

[hard thistle]

Ok

I’ll post it in the art work

[hard thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/you-have-alerted-the-horse-horse-gt-when-the-gif-24722142

[edgy cipher]

Doom the dark ages should cost 300$

[sonic turret]

https://tenor.com/view/bioshock-andrew-ryan-ok-gif-3213863871130929356

[edgy cipher]

Solid snak

[sonic turret]

Who?

[edgy cipher]

Bug boss

[elder raven]

thats not his name

[agile osprey]

I could buy ds3 5 times

[edgy cipher]

That is NOT solid snake

[edgy cipher]

Okay bill gates spare me a fiver?

[neon perch]

Funny Gman dance.

[agile osprey]

Um

Thats gangam style. ... Not g man danc

[hollow quartz]

yeah, i bought eternal over a year ago now, ill probably be sick of it by the time doom TDA is released

[gleaming rock]

skibidi toilet man?

[sonic turret]

https://tenor.com/view/andrew-ryan-bioshock-andrew-ryan-gif-25676999

[sonic turret]

Honestly, when Eternal was revealed, Hugo said that it would be a game that would make us not want to play 2016 anymore, and for me personally, it did just that and I think that the Dark Ages will do the same for Eternal.

[steady peak]

Me excited 🙂

[soft turret]

TDA will most likely be great, but I doubt it will have the same effect on Eternal as Eternal had on 2016.

Eternal was basically every concept introduced in 2016, but evolved, TDA looks way too different from Eternal to replace it.

[leaden jetty]

W game series. So glad they remastered it

[earnest swift]

Well… I guess on a very loose and technical basis you’re not wrong.

[misty beacon]

If that stops from all those cringe kids joining this server, im all for it...

[edgy cipher]

I haven’t seen any yet ngl

[earnest swift]

They probably all posted enough memes to get kicked out.

[misty beacon]

not entirely wrong.
All those "skibbidy rizz gyat" shitposters typically have a short lifespan on this server.

[queen rain]

Good, they're a disease

[sand wharf]

And they're a reason why I ignore #general

[gusty moth]

👏

Can u censor that stuff

Filter out the brainrot

[sour cairn]

does the chainsaw shield have a definitive name yet?

[sonic turret]

I don't even know what that means.

[soft turret]

1984

[summer summit]

This is from the official Doom website.

"DOOM: The Dark Ages is the single-player, action FPS prequel to the critically acclaimed DOOM (2016) and DOOM Eternal. You are the DOOM Slayer, the legendary demon-killing warrior fighting endlessly against Hell. Experience the epic cinematic origin story of the DOOM Slayer's rage in 2025."

Judging by the mention of just "single-player", that more than likely means that Doom The Dark Ages will not have any multiplayer modes whatsoever.

[hard thistle]

The game was just announced, there is ample room for them to say "hey yeah we got multiplayer as well" plus eternal's description also boasts its "epic singleplayer campaign"

It's as simple as them just not being ready to talk about it yet

[warm ibex]

Doom Eternal's official description.

"Hell’s armies have invaded Earth. Become the Slayer in an epic single-player campaign to conquer demons across dimensions and stop the final destruction of humanity. The only thing they fear... is you."

Eternal has multiplayer, does it not?

[hard thistle]

I do kinda hope TDA has no multiplayer though. Would rather they focus on the campaign.

[outer onyx]

agreed

if i want to play multiplayer...i would just go play another game

[hard thistle]

If it does I wouldn't mind if they at least outsourced it like they did with 2016

[winter idol]

That was more out of necessity I think, now that id software is an established studio, I dont think they ever really want to outsource something like that again. Battlemode was a cool experiment but it was a novelty that never really had legs to get off the ground. A multiplayer mode in a single player game will almost always die incredibly fast. If they do add one, I would definitly be interested to find out how it works

[outer quiver]

That would be sad, because doom games always had multiplayer, as i remember

Atleast classic death match mode would be good enough

[outer quiver]

Tell me, but bethesda still outsoursed alot for stafield

[winter idol]

starfield is a separate mess of its own

[summer summit]

I feel like id Sofware can have two teams. One team for the single player aspect, the other for the multiplayer aspect.

[winter idol]

they do have 2 offices around the world, but idk how id is internally structured

id is already a smaller studio than most so the multiplayer team for eternal was probably very small

[gusty moth]

That means single player is the main highlight, not that it won't have multiplayer

[jolly willow]

it would be cool if dark ages had both 2016 and eternal multiplayer

[misty beacon]

Frankfurt, Germany :D

Together with Bethesda and i think Zenimax?

[outer quiver]

Better would if they finally made invasion mode, i was waiting for it, but sadly, we got a f*ked up demon/slayer pvp on one arena :(

[misty beacon]

Not gonna happen anymore.

in doom eternal, if that what you meant*

[outer quiver]

I mean, they can try again, and make it in DA

[misty beacon]

I would love to see it!

[sonic turret]

I wouldn't mind them returning to the id staple, Deathmatch.

[grizzled fable]

Will I need to have played previous games to understand what’s going (predominantly lorewise albeit I know the basic but haven:t played any game). Saw this new doom game, looked awesome and I might get into more doom games but if I do not understand what’s going on, it will be super confusing.

[ocean sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-doom-slayer-doomguy-lunar-party-dance-gif-27238260

[cyan lotus]

I mean the lore isnt omega important but you might be a bit confused during certain parts, games not out for about another year anyways so I wouldn’t say you’re in any sort of rush to get going on getting filled in

[bronze depot]

Tbh I wanted 2016 slayer for Fortnite but that's good aswell

[hard thistle]

Seeing invasion fully realized in dark ages would be the comeback story of the year I think

[cyan lotus]

It’s gonna be monkey pawed somehow

[hard thistle]

Cause we gotta make sure we ruin a good thing

How would one monkey paw invasion anyhow I wonder

[cyan lotus]

I gotta say with how shit works I’m thinking doom eternal was barely even play tested

[hard thistle]

Fingers crossed they lock the fuck in with their code for the next gen

Spaghetti code goes crazy

[cyan lotus]

like it’s ridiculous how some of these glitches even exist in the first place, and how they never get patched out, like what do you mean I can just dash at a funny angle and I’ll get 6000 m/s speed

[hard thistle]

Crazy that the automap bug wasn't patched till what, the horde update?

[cyan lotus]

even the day one glitches that did get patched out you just have to wonder how they even made it outside the testing stage

[cyan lotus]

What auto map bug

[hard thistle]

The one that would constantly play the sound constantly even when you closed the map, persisting from even quitting to the title screen

[cyan lotus]

oh yeah

And they never even patched it they just removed the auto map sound

[cyan lotus]

like no way slope boosting was never accounted for

“oh yeah man the player just has infinite jump extensions” but WHY

also how half the Arsenal is literally useless, like I get playstyle variation and stuff but they had to have known that like a lot of the options were far and I mean far less efficient than their counterparts

unmaykr was quite literally shat on collectively by the community and when the devs have a chance to change it with newer patches or in the dlc perhaps introduce enemies that are more susceptible to it, yknow, like other enemies in the DLC that had blatant weaknesses meant for you to use underutilized weapons, they actually went the other route and gave the majority of the DLC enemies unmaykr resistance and added unmaykr resistance to a handful of enemies in later patches

[reef zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/xbox-doom-doomguy-doom-dark-ages-doom-the-dark-ages-gif-15105789491321349408

https://tenor.com/view/its-like-were-in-the-dark-ages-dark-times-dark-periods-medieval-tough-times-gif-13856502

[gusty moth]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-memes-parasite-locked-in-lock-in-gif-12519846519021844377

Can't wait for this

[hard thistle]

Funniest shit ever

[wheat sigil]

Plasma rifle is bad, unmaykr is bad, heavy cannon is only good because easy FSE with pb, the chaingun is only good because the shield and the combat shotgun is only good for staggering cacos
Seems balanced to me👍

[hard thistle]

Plasma rifle looks cool though

[wheat sigil]

Too bad I'll never see it because I never use it

[outer quiver]

It's good against energy shields

Just pops them up and doing extra damage in area

[wheat sigil]

Yea sure, I use the plasma rifle to take care of soldiers

But outside of that one single use it's bad

[outer quiver]

And i sometimes used it's heat sink mode to stagger big enemies, for some reasone at maximum charge it stuggers really well

[winter idol]

plasma rifle and chaingun and micro missiles all kinda serve the same purpose except plasma has the shield destroying tech which I only use with microwave, most of the time i forget the plasma rifle exists

[wheat sigil]

Oh wow, 700 damage after firing the plasma rifle 75 times... so good

[outer quiver]

The "ghost busters" mode, is most useless and slows you down

[winter idol]

I hate heat blast in eternal compared to how it was in 2016, it got nerfed to hell

[wheat sigil]

Since you shouldn't use the plasma rifle base fire that's just wasting plasma ammo to charge up the heat blast

[outer quiver]

75 it shots like in what 3 seconds? And wtf, numbers, i'm not here to talk about meta math guy, i'm here to kill demons

[wheat sigil]

Yea sure, I'm just saying how the plasma rifle is insanely bad

[outer quiver]

Like if u ever run out of ammo

[winter idol]

redundant weapons and mods are a major issue

microwave was so trash they had to force people to use it in dlcs

[wheat sigil]

It's singular use is killing soldiers, you might argue spirits too, but if you're playing the base game it's better to not kill the spirits and just kill the other demons

[outer quiver]

With the most hatefull enemy

[winter idol]

using the combat shotgun bombs is far better at killing fodder

[wheat sigil]

?

[wheat sigil]

Actually killing spirits puts you in a vulnerable position and wastes 75 plasma ammo

[outer quiver]

How it's always 75 lmao

[winter idol]

cause thats how much ammo the microwave beam uses up

spirits have a static health, its not different for every spirit

I just hope the accelerator condenses the plasma rifle and the chaingun into 1 weapon

[wheat sigil]

You could remove the plasma rifle, unmaykr and half the mods in the game, and I wouldn't even notice they're gone lmao

Hope TDA is more balanced

[wheat sigil]

Also most of the runes

[winter idol]

yea, id say remove full auto, micro missiles, heat blast, and buff mobile turret to have a higher fire rate

yea I only ever use the same 3 runes and never change them

[wheat sigil]

I'd also say that some mods needs to be nerfed

[noble oyster]

It got so bad they made demons that could only be killed by some of those weapons 😭🙏

[wheat sigil]

Make lock-on deal the same damsge as like 2,3 rockets or something, shield have a way longer cooldown and shorter duration

[winter idol]

or actually, remove mobile turret and make microwave do alot more damage

lock on should have just been completely replaced with something else

[wheat sigil]

Meathook should probably have a bit longer cooldown also, and dblade should deal a bit less damage

[noble oyster]

Yeah it kinda sucks having only a few things that are even remotely useful, its like perks in warzone 6/15 of them is worth using and thats just horrible

[winter idol]

lock on could have instead been, turn the rocket into a projectile that has gravity and when it hits the ground make a DOT pool of damage

[noble oyster]

Yo thats sick replace remote detonation with that

[wheat sigil]

Yes, I want to actually be able to experiment with my playstyle without being forced to be way worse

[winter idol]

honestly, the guns should have all probably had 1 mod, that would justify them being more powerful

[noble oyster]

Air control is also just insane imo, i feel like it shouldve never been a thing

[wheat sigil]

I would like 2 mods but that they are well balanced and promote different playstyles

[wheat sigil]

Air control makes it so even when I'm low on HP I can keep attacking because I know that I can almost completely avoid taking damage

Which is, like you said, insane

[winter idol]

dark ages has the shield so just tank everything now

back in 2020 i said the chaingun shield should have been a basic ability to use whenever, and now here we are

[noble oyster]

There better be a stamina bar for the shield like elden ring or something

[noble oyster]

Ah yes, bulldozer

[winter idol]

i would throw up if there was from soft stamina

[noble oyster]

For the shield only tho, only makes sense cuz i cant figure out any other way lmao

[wheat sigil]

Yea, I don't really like the idea of a tanky doomguy with slower paced combat, but I try to keep an open mind

[winter idol]

ima be honest, I do, the dlcs got too fast for me to the point of being kinda meh

[soft turret]

I like how it's looking

[winter idol]

I think the shield bash will allow for plenty of fun moments similar to the meat hook

[soft turret]

The game doesn't look that slow either, Eternal is just one of the crack cocaine shooters

Next to Titanfall 2 and Ultrakill

[hard thistle]

Yeah hard to go back after experiencing that

[winter idol]

the mancubus projectiles move at a snales pace in the trailer lmao

[wheat sigil]

I understand that, most people don't want an ultra fast paced shooter

[hard thistle]

Saw lots of people say 2016 was too slow after playing eternal lol

[winter idol]

2016 isnt too slow, it has other design issues that make it feel that way

2016 was very much a prototype game

[soft turret]

Doesn't really mean the game is slow, Halo has faster projectiles than all of Doom and Master Chief is a snail compared to mr crack

[winter idol]

yea i wasnt saying the game will move slow, I think the shield will allow for many more close encounters with enemies and allow you to interact more with them than in eternal

less running away

[noble oyster]

Tbh it makes me wonder how theyll do movement, they saw slower and more tactical but doomguy looks like hes walking like its doom eternal just with slower speed, like its just flat zooming and idk how to feel about it

[soft turret]

2016's pace is pretty good still

The quickswapping is also faster

[winter idol]

I think its the same walking speed for all 3 games, looks slower cause its a youtube video

[hard thistle]

Yeah trailers tend to have the player walk slow and linearly for a cinematic effect

[winter idol]

also the trailer was probably running at 90 fov, I run at 120 so that definitly is a factor

[noble oyster]

I honestly might wait for a gameplay showcase before any discussion on it cuz you never really know if some things were changed just for the sake of the trailer, maybe the projectiles were slower to make it more cinematic? Idk

[hard thistle]

Wouldn’t get too worried about the movement yet

[soft turret]

Eternal's trailers were very much slower

Only eternal trailers showcasing true game speed were the ones post release

[winter idol]

i really think its cause of the fov settings

[wheat sigil]

Trailers will never show how fast the game is on a high level

[misty beacon]

Hugo even said "The Mars Core Gameppay Trailer" was all fake, a big lie, he had to walk slow and do all those things like switching weapons. But in reality, he could have just dashed around with the SSG and killed everything with 1 Shot cause the whole kit was HELLA unbalanced at that point in development

Not that it changed much since then

[placid saffron]

meanwhile, with DA they said a while before that they wanted to be slower

[misty beacon]

ayo, leaked art

not rly*

[soft turret]

Shit looks too silly for me

[misty beacon]

but imagine a mech with a massive lance

https://x.com/emersontung/status/1810890024700846234?t=L3MEGkUyEhd66OahM7BbOg&s=19

Emerson Tung (@emersontung) on X

Hey #PortfolioDay, I'm an art director and concept artist, currently working on DOOM: The Dark Ages.
I'm also working on a dieselpunk universe called TANKHEAD, and the first book in the series is launching this week!

Twitter · Jul 10, 2024, 4:13 AM

[lament crane]

So I got a theory, so obviously we don’t know any confirmed evidence of any composer for the music but I’ve been listening and I’m thinking that Two Feathers might actually be composing DOOM the Dark Ages. If you listen to Acheron from Metal Hellsinger the music and melody sounds almost the same and listening to both samples I’m confident it maybe them. If it is then I think it’s a good choice, from someone who played Metal Hellsinger and liked the music Two Feathers made I think they can make DOOM music easily, just hope they can still deliver the doom aspect like the demonic chanting maybe even having some old soundtracks like Rip and Tear show up but in their own version

[misty beacon]

Every day i wake up and hope the whole mick thing was just a bad dream.
And id software/bethesda/mick still have a good time making music...

[lament crane]

Trust me I wish that too, it definitely was devastating to see him go. Tho in dooms history there will be new and old composers. it’s like sports for example, there’s a player that holds the number 1 player but eventually there will be another player that will replace that place. I think it’s the same with dooms music, mick is the best one tho eventually someone will top him, hate to say it but that’s common in a lot of things

I’m giving no hate on mick, just saying, he will remain the best composer. Just saying that part of history will happen sooner or later

[hard thistle]

I don't think Mick's style would fit this game.

[lament crane]

With it being a slow and grounded game I don’t think so, I thought that Andrew was gonna be a good option but now we know he’s not gonna be in this title at least

I’m open to seeing what other composers can do with dooms music but there’s a rule that mick settled, there’s gotta be specific things like demonic chanting and other things but idk about this one

[misty beacon]

Any words from Chad Mossholder btw?

[lament crane]

I haven’t heard his music yet, he made any?

[outer onyx]

at this point the composer might go anonymous lol

[winter idol]

Chad Mossholder is the audio engineer at ID

[misty beacon]

https://soundcloud.com/cwmossholder

[lament crane]

Ok thank you, I’ll take a listen when I have time to

[misty beacon]

hes more like the "overlooking music lord"

[winter idol]

Current theory is Geoffrey Day is the composer

He has made some absolutely insane music

[lament crane]

Just crazy how the whole community is scrambling to see who’s the new composer, guess we will have to wait until it’s announced

I understand that we are because dooms music is important because of mick

[misty beacon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWSC3V88uag

[winter idol]

he also did most of the music for atomic heart and made the most iconic track from the game

[misty beacon]

If thats his style, i can see it working!

[winter idol]

I honestly hope its him, his tracks sound so good

[misty beacon]

but i lowkey also agree with that

People gonna be people, let them release first, then say who made the music.
Being harrassed by fanboys, telling him he "will never be as good as mick" suck ass

[outer onyx]

yeah...

[winter idol]

I think mick stans are in the minority

[outer onyx]

tbh my fav music from eternal isnt even micks

[winter idol]

also whoever it is probably already has a record of good music

[misty beacon]

lmao what am i listening to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTsgfcoFoyA

[winter idol]

i had no idea this existed until now lmao

[misty beacon]

goes hard, ngl

[winter idol]

his use of synths is really good, dosnt use as many as mick did but his tracks dont need to be micks

[misty beacon]

sooooooome of micks tracks really overused synths imo >.<

[winter idol]

cultist base WEEEE WOOOO

[misty beacon]

hahahahahaha

[pure stirrup]

What are the odds it could be Andrew Hulshult again? I know the main game of eternal had a lot of music drama, but did the dlcs as well?

[winter idol]

he said he isnt working on it

[misty beacon]

I INSTANTLY HAD IT PLAYING IN MY HEAD get outta here haha

[outer onyx]

i liked meathook

[pure stirrup]

Ah, that solves that then

[outer onyx]

other than that most music for me is just in the background

i dont pay attention to it

now UAC A. and World Spear on the other hand....

[winter idol]

one of my favorite tracks from eternal is phobos base and its 100% electronic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7G9CP2hRig

[misty beacon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3saIjFDY3X4

[visual totem]

That's SICK

[winter idol]

a classic video

[misty beacon]

HAHAHAHAH YOU FUCKING LEGEND

[winter idol]

i love it when artists comment on videos of their art that are like that

[misty beacon]

Now i imagine mick casually watching the "Wee Woo"-Episode, and be like:
Imma turn that shit into a DOOM song

[winter idol]

the doom hunter base combat theme is like someone slamming a synth keyboard but I actually love it

makes me wish that level had more arenas than the 1 it had

[misty beacon]

btw. mick also worked on Atomic Heart

[winter idol]

yea ik, he did the pylush boss theme

[misty beacon]

huh... interesting

well, whoever it is, i know they will deliver :)

[winter idol]

the trailer music sounds better than some of the tracks in the base eternal campaign IMO

[misty beacon]

The "mancubus/skull crusher" part, the music goes so hard

[winter idol]

they way they synced the skull crusher animation with the music must have taken at least 1-2 days

[misty beacon]

Makes my brain release funny chemicals, ngl

[winter idol]

wonder how close the sound effects are with what they are in the final game, probably not at all

[misty beacon]

given how much shit changed between eternals trailers and the final product, there is a lot of room for adjustments

[unborn tiger]

will it just be doom eternal but it's a My Little Dark Age edit

doom guy goes on his sigma male arc

[winter idol]

eww

[languid parcel]

nahhhhhh the skullcrusher/shielsaw riff hits even harder

[honest vortex]

Skullcrusher sounds like a sequel to Skullhacker

[sonic turret]

To be honest, I never even noticed the music, and if I did, I don't find it memorable, but I feel that way about a lot of the more modern Doom music, I just don't find it as catchy as the OG classic Doom OST.

I usually stream the OG stuff while I'm playing the modern Doom games anyway, it's less noise pollution and more good stuff to tap my foot to while I'm ripping and tearing.

[spare birch]

I play doom while listening to Metallica and sabbaton bands like that

[queen rain]

Both old and new DOOM music is excellent, I love me my heavy metal

[spare birch]

Although my favorite thing is 70s classic rock

Listening to paint it black while killing bosses is peak gaming

[queen rain]

Now you're speaking my language

My favorites are mostly from the 70's

[spare birch]

Its my favorite I was raised by my grandparents so I stole there music taste

[queen rain]

My favorite band ever is Pink Floyd

[queen rain]

You could say the same about me, I took it from my dad and papa

[spare birch]

Mine is rush

[spare birch]

Also your getting a friend request due to our mutual interest in music and games

[languid parcel]

the e1m1 and the doom 2 start music are bangers

[queen rain]

I was expecting that, but certainly welcoming

[sonic turret]

Yeah, I love all of the Doom 1 and 2 tracks.

[wicked osprey]

Honestly the best doom music, is wad music,.
Ancient aliens/sunlust ost is super good(tho a lot of it are unoriginal midi remixes)

[blazing imp]

I like the shield

[craggy bear]

I'm convinced the lever action super shotgun is taking inspiration off of doom 64's super shotgun

(not like the dark ages is just doom 64 rebooted)

[winter idol]

it looks nothing like it tho

[craggy bear]

yes but in doom 64, there is no "reload" animation but still sound

I'm convinced dark ages expanded on the "lever action" idea

[winter idol]

i think its out of necessity cause it has to be reloaded 1 handed

[craggy bear]

true

[violet pumice]

Hi

[merry sapphire]

Hi

[autumn cypress]

I was afraid that doom the dark ages would be x box exclusive before it was revealed

[winter idol]

I believe it was actually leaked before that it would be on ps5

[jaunty beacon]

real question is

when's the switch port coming out

[winter idol]

probably never since nintendo is making a new console

[autumn palm]

so ready to play the dark ages

[outer quiver]

Switch 2 doom DA confirmed only

[summer summit]

There's no way that Id Tech 8 can run on the Switch. There's already have to be a lot of compromises to get Id Tech 6 and 7 to run on the Switch, I can't imagine how it'll run Id Tech 8.

[coral finch]

What info have we gotten other then the trailer for doom the dark ages

[wicked osprey]

Would it even be on a new engine?

[pure stirrup]

From an interview, we know the combat will be closer to that of '93, with a bigger focus on projectiles and positioning and less vertical movement. So the combat will be quite a bit different than that of eternals.
Otherwise that's about the only "big" news we've had outside of the trailer afaik

[stray pollen]

Think we might get some more stuff at quakecon?

[jaunty beacon]

panic button can do it

i've seen them do the impossible i don't doubt they can port dark ages

they could just remove the fancy graphical features like they did with D4 and DE

[wicked osprey]

Quake con is actually soon innit

[stray pollen]

Sure is bud, hopefully they'll share something by then

[outer quiver]

Rirst persone bullet hell, i will take it

[tribal lagoon]

Can’t wait for it to be unable to run games made after 2007 at a playable framerate and the controllers to have drift from the start

[winter idol]

their new console wont be that bad

[placid saffron]

i'm not expecting it to be up to date but also not to be THAT outdated

[winter idol]

switch was able to run doom eternal at a stable frame rate, partially cause of the insane port job and the fact that id tech is insanly scalable

[tribal lagoon]

Panic Button did an amazing job on the 2016 and Eternal ports. Their other switch ports are really well done too

Warframe looks great so does MachineGames Wolfenstein titles

Apex is a bit rocky though imo

[noble oyster]

Aaand they wont be doing anything for TDA unless the switch 2 comes out of nowhere

[tribal lagoon]

Would be cool or get more Valve titles on a Nintendo console

Crazy how Portal 1 & 2 are the first Valve games on a Nintendo platform

[noble oyster]

True tho, valve games could def fit on the switch

[tribal lagoon]

Also some more Bethesda titles in general would be nice. Skyrims on the Switch but the only Fallout game is Fallout Shelter. Dishonored would also be cool to see

[noble oyster]

Imagine a fromsoft game on the switch lmao

[tribal lagoon]

Dark Souls 1 is on the switch but I think that’s the only Fromsoft game on there

Dark Souls II and III might work

Bloodborne is never getting ported to anything ever lmao

[strong osprey]

We can all agree that whoever decided to come up with the Shieldsaw needs to get a promotion.

[crimson epoch]

Nah I'm bored of dark ages when we getting a new doom

[crimson epoch]

If they don't add a 1911 I'm refunding

[queen rain]

I'm suprised they haven't ported fallout 3 and new vegas to switch, they would have been perfect

[frozen shuttle]

That would actually be fire

[queen rain]

Yeah, they wouldn't even have to do anything, and it would make a bunch of money

Oh well, atleast I can play them on my ps5

[frozen shuttle]

Exactly

I got 3,4 and fallout shelter on my ps5

[queen rain]

But what sucks about them being streaming only is that I can't get the dlc

[queen rain]

I finished fallout 3, am currently on new vegas, and have 4 downloaded on standby

[frozen shuttle]

4 is great

Although I do find it a little dull at time to time

The combat is great tho

[tribal lagoon]

Story is definitely 4’s weakest aspect fun gameplay though

I could really give less of a shit about Sean

[tribal lagoon]

Or even the older Fallout games too.

[frozen shuttle]

Fr

[queen rain]

They would work perfect in portable mode with the touch screen

[smoky igloo]

Anyone knows how much the game is gonna cost?

[wheat sigil]

About 120$

No, I'm just joking, we don't know yet

[winter idol]

either 60 or 70 USD

[visual hill]

dude i seriously hope that giant mech isnt just a cutscene

[sonic turret]

I mean, within the price range of most new releases, baring in mind there will be multiple versions, including a Deluxe Edition, but honestly, the rest of us know exactly as much as you do at this point.

[robust phoenix]

holy shit its a postal fan

[sonic turret]

Probably, maybe more gameplay footage and concept art, as well as interviews with Hugo, with Marty in tow. Possibly at some point they'll distribute prerelease copies of the game to the FPS YouTubers too.

[stray pollen]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking too. You know, depending exactly when Dark Ages might release next year maybe they could do a showcase like they did with Eternal at quakecon to hype it up towards release in the first half of 2025, that is if it's planned to release at that time.

[umbral hatch]

Will the dark ages function properly?

[hot breach]

lol i hope so

[umbral hatch]

Stuck with a eternal bug

Found so many variants

[hot breach]

every game has bugs

[umbral hatch]

No soloutions. Apparently support do t give a shit

[hot breach]

its inevitable

[hot breach]

yea just restart the level

[umbral hatch]

No don’t get it

I launch campaign for first time

[hot breach]

k

[umbral hatch]

And it load says to press space I press space and it crashes

[hot breach]

probably an issue on your end tbh

[umbral hatch]

No

I have found so many threads of same thing

[hot breach]

have you tried reinstalling the game

[umbral hatch]

Never a solution

[umbral hatch]

Wouldn’t work

Exact same thing failed for someone with same issue

[hot breach]

try it for yourself instead of believing others who may or may not have the exact same issue

[umbral hatch]

Ok

[sonic turret]

I'm just wondering what kind of stuff will be in the QuakeCon goodie bags too.

[misty beacon]

bro... how should anyone here know?!
We literally only got the very first teaser, with the game a year away still

[noble oyster]

Wait WHAT? I swear i didnt see it on my switch 😭

[umbral hatch]

did not work

[hot breach]

update drivers

do a clean install

[umbral hatch]

Updating now

Considering buying on steam

But Same issue on steam as read from support threads

Most likely some obscure hardware issue bethsda dont give a shit about

Like specific resoloution of dual monitors with specific raytracing settings

Idk some absurd bullshit

thats my guess

[hot breach]

what do you have it on rn?

[umbral hatch]

xbox gamepass pc app

[hot breach]

rip

your drivers were installed?

[umbral hatch]

yes

Acording to dead threads

Apears to also be problem on steam

[hot breach]

ok go on the steam page for doom eternal and check the specs

[umbral hatch]

Ok

[hot breach]

you may not have the required specs