the-dark-ages

[frigid totem]

Cuz y'all cant type worth a damn

[honest vortex]

Especially on Argent D'Nur

[solemn wadi]

World spear is super cool in lore but I think it’s out of place for doom. It’s a little too bright and happy. Still cool but idk

[terse bolt]

You have to be 13 to be on discord

[frigid totem]

fatmetro's immora mix on YT is such a headbanger

[snow nova]

Makes me wanna come back to my ex crush and tell her to buy milk

[neon perch]

Like I said, it's relegated to some bits of maps here and there. you never really get to wander in flesh corridors.

[solemn wadi]

Tag 1 first level gotta be one of the coolest maps ever

[terse bolt]

lmao bro what

[snow nova]

Didn't know

[solemn wadi]

I wish they had more rain maps like the Atlantic tag 1 level

[honest vortex]

I liked UAC Atlantica, Reclaimed Earth, and the forest/nature/water areas of The Holt (I don't really like the Maykr type buildings and structures though)

[snow nova]

Doom soundtracks can make you do anything

[frigid totem]

His parent needs to get him to mow the lawn or smth

[honest vortex]

Though that's about it

[vapid lodge]

DOOM OST wakes me up more than coffee

[snow nova]

I mowed the lawn on hell spawn

[neon perch]

UACA is great and all up until they tilt the map at the halfway point and ledge grab detection shits the bed.

[solemn wadi]

Hyped for dark age soundtrack

[snow nova]

With my bfg

[solemn wadi]

Never had a problem with that

[frigid totem]

So true. Those hitboxes be all over the place

[snow nova]

The intro soundtrack was even heavier than eternal's stuff

[honest vortex]

It also just gets too monotonous during the second half for how drawnout it is.

I can beat it in 20-30 minutes nowadays and I still feel it's too drawnout lol

[neon perch]

I have. it's not super serious or anything, but it's still a nuisance from time to time.

[solemn wadi]

Yeah it goes crazy hard

[honest vortex]

It was rainy and kinda 2016-esque

[frigid totem]

I'm gonna need a link for that, y'all

[snow nova]

I hope the brutality of the new ost will match a gorier game 😻

[terse bolt]

I think it may have been David Levy’s, he made UACA, trial of maligog, immora, and the dark lord soundtracks

[neon perch]

I wished we could have bite-sized custom maps. Snapmap kinda scratched that itch, even if the maps themselves were kinda boring.

[frigid totem]

You can definitely tell who made which song in those lmfaoo

[snow nova]

Honestly they also are goated especially blood swamp conquered earth and immora

[honest vortex]

There's newer maps that are really good IMO , especially ones utilizing SnapHaks tech

[terse bolt]

Honestly I like David Levy’s work more than mick’s base game doom eternal stuff, but that’s to be expected given mick was under extreme crunch time

[solemn wadi]

I need an endless/ rogue like game mode for doom

[terse bolt]

the mighty doom in question

[solemn wadi]

Yeah but that’s mobile

[snow nova]

Mick's contribution is the reason the meme "soundtrack with a free game" exists

[honest vortex]

Eternal's collision geometry is beyond atrocious. Taras Nabad is probably the worst offender for this

[frigid totem]

Yeah... unfortunately I must agree. Immora far exceeds meathook, bfg 10k, any immora track, its rough.

[terse bolt]

Yeah and it’s a shitty meme, always has been

[snow nova]

Why

[terse bolt]

Mick’s 2016 work is far better than eternal

[snow nova]

Real

[terse bolt]

Annoying

[honest vortex]

I can agree.

It was much more industrial, angrier, and experimental, and often more raw

[frigid totem]

Which sucks, because his choir idea was really novel. Only got to shine when the kar en tuk chant was reused for some of the tracks

[honest vortex]

Metal Hell was like Rust, Dust, and Guts from 2016 but nowhere near as concentrated anger

[terse bolt]

yeah mick had much more time to fully develop the music for 2016, with eternal he was forced to shit out music as fast as he could

[solemn wadi]

2016 on vinyl goes so hard

[frigid totem]

Fuckin' deluxe edition.

[terse bolt]

and that’s why eternal still isn’t on Spotify

[honest vortex]

Super Gore Nest is a cool song but it's like a watered down Rip and Tear

[frigid totem]

Or collector's, i mean. Same thing in my head

[solemn wadi]

The opening of dogma 1 sets the mood instantly

[terse bolt]

It’s literally a rip and tear remix lol

[frigid totem]

Blood swamps:

[honest vortex]

Indeed, but nowhere as good

But still good. Don't get me wrong

[solemn wadi]

2016 soundtrack literally got me into metal music

[frigid totem]

I disagree, I like SGN more than rip and tear. Much more melodic

[honest vortex]

Very good even, but Rip and Tear atleast the in-game rip version is legendary

[frigid totem]

I corrected myself already, thanks.

[honest vortex]

Are you comparing it to the game rip version or the OST version?

Rip and Tear game rip is infinitely better than the OST version

[nova badger]

Ah, I missed your correction. My apologies

[frigid totem]

Well I listen to many different mixes, so I'm basing my opinion off of the songs as a whole

I actually never listened to any of the official eternal releases, which is probably affecting my opinion of this a lot

[hard thistle]

I prefer Eternal's soundtrack.

[sonic turret]

I literally can't remember any of the Eternal music, it's just not memorable to me. The classic Doom music however, I can easily recall in my mind.

[honest vortex]

Ah interesting.

[terse bolt]

doom 2016’s feels much more unique and varied, but eternal’s has its place

With David levy in the dark ages it may be gearing up to beat both though

[honest vortex]

I used to love TOTTFIY but got tired of it.

Gladiator and Reclaimed Earth are godlike

[hard thistle]

Davoth is the best song in the franchise.

[terse bolt]

gladiator does go quite hard

[terse bolt]

real, one of the absolute best

[frigid totem]

Flesh and metal, the hell guards theme (actual track name is fuckin gibberish) and mastermind were my faves.

[sage fog]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/687781300232388650/1251312574209855488/image.png?ex=666e1f25&is=666ccda5&hm=907258ada787da25adf42a3d738e9ebfe89560df08822ec8f3024e55d6cc8882&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

Dark ages gonna end with this quote

[honest vortex]

Metal Hell is pretty cool even if it's just a less angry version of Rust Dust and Guts from 2016

[terse bolt]

Ancient gods part 2 already did that lol

[hard thistle]

Any problems with that final boss in terms of gameplay are immediately made up for with the song IMO. Awe-inspiring and sets an incredible tone for the fight.

[frigid totem]

The one actual riff in the song is nice, the twelve minutes of noise sucks.

[terse bolt]

It ended with “may the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again”

[delicate grotto]

I love all the music references in Davoth’s theme

[honest vortex]

Flesh and Metal, VEGA Core, Skullhacker, Damnation, and Hell Guards are godly. Same for Rip and Tear and Harbinger

[sage fog]

Not with it being narrated

[terse bolt]

REAL

[sonic turret]

And may the wings of liberty never lose a feather.

[honest vortex]

Also the fucking Hell Choirs. Holy shit

[frigid totem]

Skullhacker literally hacks at my skull, its too much.

[hard thistle]

Gladiator rocks. I also love Meathook, Atlantica, Only Thing They Fear (though it is a bit overrated), Final Sin, and Seraphim.

[terse bolt]

True, would be great to hear king Novik say that or something

[delicate grotto]

I don’t like the Skullhacker track either lol

[sage fog]

I like to think the "you will be worse" from 2016 is the Wretch, so i hope we meet them

[honest vortex]

Oh. Damn. I think it's masterclass lol

[terse bolt]

Vega core is top tier

[delicate grotto]

True

[honest vortex]

Hell on Earth actually sounds like a 2016 track to me. It's pretty good

[frigid totem]

Its just industrial noise, which is insane for me to say. I fucking love industrial wacky zeep zoop beep bop crap

[delicate grotto]

Yeah idk, I just don’t vibe with it

[frigid totem]

One of the few tracks that felt like 2016. I loved it a bunch

[honest vortex]

Gladiator sounds like it'd be a 2016 boss theme.

Though the Hell Guards boss theme I like equally to Gladiator

[solemn wadi]

Nekravol bass line goes so hard

[delicate grotto]

Both bosses are some of the best in the franchise too

[honest vortex]

Fr? Anyway I noticed it has a part from Meathook before Meathook

[frigid totem]

What'd you find?

[honest vortex]

I also noticed Meathook has certain moments that remind me of Flesh and Metal

[sonic turret]

I just liked the look of the hellguards, they remind me of an action figure that I had as a kid.

[sage fog]

Can I be really honest here chat

I prefer 2016's tracks, yes they didn't go as crazy, but I also never stopped to say "this sounds gross, is this someone squeezing wet plastic?"

[honest vortex]

I can go check

[frigid totem]

Those worm things look so damn chewy

[sage fog]

tho I love both TAG's soundtracks

[honest vortex]

I think 2016 went crazier. Atleast from an angry/chaotic standpoint.

But Eternal's were more jam/dance-like if that makes sense

[sonic turret]

I dunno, the 2016 and Eternal music just isn't metal enough for me, as a Brit.

[sage fog]

The Hell Choir in 2016 is so fucking good

[solemn wadi]

2016 had so much more love and care which is why it’s better. Eternal still slaps

[sonic turret]

https://tenor.com/view/nicole-richie-hair-flip-deal-with-it-sassy-fabulous-gif-3578162

[honest vortex]

Interesting thought you were praising some of 2016 music

[sage fog]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqiSz5yf934
I like to think that this is a song the demons sing about the slayer

[sonic turret]

I dunno, I usually play the OG soundtrack while playing 2016 and Eternal.

From classic Doom.

[honest vortex]

Hmm. I see. Well you do you I suppose lol

[frigid totem]

I'd get whiplash from the drastic difference in tone I'd get from doing that

[sonic turret]

Mick Gordon's music reminds me of when I worked in a factory, those were dark days that I'd rather forget.

[honest vortex]

Same. It'd just be unfitting

[solemn wadi]

I love the maykr choir a lot in Urdak

[sonic turret]

The OG Doom music while playing the modern games is meditation.

[honest vortex]

Not even just the music, but the level and aesthetic in general

[frigid totem]

Might as well be playing multiversus with all the cartoony shit going on, auditory and visually

[honest vortex]

I can see it fitting the explorative parts of Foundry and Argent Facility, but not so much the combat

[honest vortex]

It's like the Deimos Labs of Eternal

[honest vortex]

It was also angry and raw as hell

[frigid totem]

I dont hear many praises for The Holt's ambient track as much as I'd like. Stuff's up there with the heavy tracks in my book

[honest vortex]

I love Argent Tower ambience for some reason

[sonic turret]

True, the old and new games are very different animals.

[honest vortex]

I noticed Eternal reused it on the cutscenes where you get Hayden back on the ship

[frigid totem]

Doom II on GZDOOM will one day power FTL travel

[honest vortex]

They totally are. Though both amazing in their own ways

[frigid totem]

I'm pretty sure Hayden's 2016 theme was also reused, though that one's easier to recognize

I assume anyway

[honest vortex]

It was

Also Hell choirs plays on the intro cutscene for a little bit

[sonic turret]

I mean there's that one Doom 2 track with the salsa jingle in, and back in the days, I was like, where the heck did that come from.

[honest vortex]

https://youtu.be/LHqSV5iXcXc?si=SMR-ouIr6aapXkk0

Go to 6:50. There's a part in Meathook very similar to this

[frigid totem]

SLAD3 oughta have tears in his eyes to see his stuff get promoted by the average doom fan

[honest vortex]

Wait what?

[frigid totem]

Im just fuckin round

[honest vortex]

Hmmmm

[agile osprey]

I actually think its better

its so disgusting in all the right ways

[honest vortex]

Game rip of Rip and Tear sounds more "disgusting" and chaotic to me.

But we all have our opinions lol

[frigid totem]

You would love "A Little Piece of Heaven" by Avenged Sevenfold

[agile osprey]

opinions are opinions

[honest vortex]

Motherfriggin' facts

[honest vortex]

Banger

[honest vortex]

Reclaimed Earth is phenomenal

[agile osprey]

its not argent tower iirc its dr samuel hayden from the official 2016 ost

[honest vortex]

Nice

[honest vortex]

I just realized there's a FatMetro mention 😏

[frigid totem]

Kiryu go and check the follow up I posted when you can, has decent context to further my thought back there

[frigid totem]

Dude makes good remixes 🤷‍♂️

[honest vortex]

Also banger ass gameplay @slender dock

[frigid totem]

Is that him?

Who'd you ping?

[honest vortex]

No. But he's someone who really loves and looks up to FatMetro and Clockner

[agile osprey]

lowkey fatmetro underrated as HELL

his mixes outclass koma's, I cant lie

[honest vortex]

Also he uses micro missiles. My fucking man

[frigid totem]

Ah. What a rockstar🫰

[agile osprey]

I love his syncs

[frigid totem]

I never liked Koma's.

[agile osprey]

its a step up from mick's official showcases

[frigid totem]

Always stuck with spc, slad3 and fatmet. Other than that, only some occasional outliers making one or two good mixes (spc honestly)

Sorry bro)

[honest vortex]

Who you apologizing too

[frigid totem]

Spc

If he ever checks these chats anyway. I doubt it. Still better to be safe though

[honest vortex]

Lol. What are his only two good mixes?

[frigid totem]

Heres his doom hunter one. I fucking love this one, and his SGN. But another, his bfg 10k one is just a slog to sit through. Hard to fix that shitty track though. Removing it from my playlist as we speak

Forgot it was there...

Oh, I forgot about another mixer. RSG 1234 has some insanely good DLC remixes and videos to go along with them.

Here. https://youtu.be/04GZ5Kj2fmM?si=iAjZJBoXAt23m9iz

[fresh path]

Which demons we haven’t seen that you think will return in The Dark Ages.
And ones you don’t think will.

[frigid totem]

Who knows

[delicate grotto]

The entire classic roster of demons are likely to be there.
I don’t think many Eternal demons will be returning aside from the Gargoyle and Prowler. We might see Marauders but I’m not sure how that’ll hold up with the lore.

[hoary storm]

I can’t believe it is finally here the dark ages

[fresh path]

I feel like the Gargoyle kinda needs to return.

[hoary storm]

I agree

They do show a few gory kills, but they’re just very quick

Just listen to the new trailer song for doom the dark ages I thought it was amazing

[fresh path]

Maybe we’ll see them in a form closer to their original one.
Since they are native to Argent D’Nur.

[frigid totem]

If they're marauders, they're a early and weaker version. I really doubt any of those crucible axes or shield generator (whutever they use to make the thing's appear) really existed back then

[hoary storm]

[fresh path]

Maybe wolves?

I’d like to see a physical version of them.

[honest vortex]

Wait where did the Marauder posts go

[cyan lotus]

TAG2 mentioned..😛😛

[honest vortex]

I'm curious, if you could picture yourself as someone who didn't get into speedrunning, what would you have thought of TAG 2?

[cyan lotus]

idk, probably something to play when bored, and if I never got into speedrunning I’d be playing current patch, so it would have a whole slew of altered encounters that are just kind of a slog added later on

[plain moon]

Y’all think the Wretch made a completely new suit for the Slayer based off the one from TDA or the Wretch simply upgraded the armor from TDA to be indestructible?

[steep gust]

Tda looks sick

[dim coyote]

maybe it was upgraded

[dim coyote]

thats true :D

[hard thistle]

YEAHHHHHHHH DOOM DARK AGES

[inner wigeon]

[inner mauve]

Wtf?

[inner wigeon]

Agreed

[inner mauve]

There was no spam what the actual fuck

[inner wigeon]

Maybe the ooooo

Lets freaking gooo yknow but the oooo is a lot longer

[hard thistle]

It might be a bug

What the fuck

[inner mauve]

Bots can go burn in nekravol

[hard thistle]

This shit broken

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doomguy-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-gif-17796023110931187535

[vapid lodge]

do you guys think the skull crusher is gonna be weak and less used?

i have this stupid feeling, maybe im wrong, but it feels situational

[solemn wadi]

Looks like a fodder killer

[vapid lodge]

yeah... i wonder if its gonna have secondary uses, like mods

[solemn wadi]

I hear this will have the highest demon count out of all the games

[vapid lodge]

oh yes

[solemn wadi]

So it will be very useful

[vapid lodge]

it kinda gives me Flak Cannon from Unreal Tournament vibes

[solemn wadi]

Never played it

[vapid lodge]

amazing game for its time

[inner mauve]

Mod that makes it so it just launches the WHOLE SKULL for big Damage

[vapid lodge]

EXACTLY like the Flak Cannon man

[inner mauve]

Flak Cannon?

[solemn wadi]

Thought sounds sick

[vapid lodge]

https://imgur.com/a/YulSrwA

[solemn wadi]

Oh that gun I’ve seen that before

[vapid lodge]

yeah that what its called

primary fire shoots shards of a metal, but like a shotgun, slowly

and secondary, shoots the entire heated metal ball that explodes on fall

[solemn wadi]

That’s pretty cool

[delicate grotto]

One of the main things I hope TDA improves off of 2016 and Eternal, is giving every weapon a use, and not letting some weapons trivialize others.
Classic Doom did this very well. (Aside from the pistol)

[vapid lodge]

yeah you are right

[solemn wadi]

100%

[vapid lodge]

we will see

[abstract barn]

maybe i just suck but in classic doom you only really use the weapons you have ammo for

eternal definitely does the best job of not letting any weapons be trivial

[vapid lodge]

time will tell, we can't be sure, but thats my opinion, i will be wrong 99%

[solemn wadi]

I love the new ammo management. Oh I have no bullets guess I’ll just chainsaw this demon next to me and now shoot his friends

[jolly plume]

I'm sure it's just meant to be a crowd control gun, but yeah like they've said, there's gonna be plenty of crowds

[vapid lodge]

and then fists and melee weapons

[delicate grotto]

While that can be true, I still felt like every weapon in the classics had a unique purpose that didn’t overshadow another

[solemn wadi]

Yeah

[vapid lodge]

and legs 🤣

[solemn wadi]

Bro… imagine the a glory kill with the new saw shield where you punch it into a demons gut and the thing just spins and spins

How am I now realizing how cool this shield is gonna be

[jolly plume]

I hope you can gut a mancubus with it

[solemn wadi]

Hell yeah

[jolly plume]

Doomguy became Kung Lao

[solemn wadi]

Literally

[jolly plume]

Doom Lao

[vapid lodge]

https://imgur.com/a/yc8d1rv

Literally TDA^

Can't FUCKING wait to crush them with my hands

[solemn wadi]

HELL YEAH

[vapid lodge]

i mean, we kinda had this with power ups in both 2016 and Eternal

[solemn wadi]

I need more of those

[jolly plume]

If there's place for Berserker power ups I would hope they're more like 2016's too. Eternal's were not fun

[solemn wadi]

Honestly I never picked them up in eternal because I would ether forget or it made things too easy

[jolly plume]

It made things boring to me. The same animation over and over and you can't always just punch them and be over with it. It almost always triggers the animations

[delicate grotto]

Powerups felt like an afterthought in Eternal ngl

[solemn wadi]

Yeah. It looks like they put more time into the glory kills

However I love the berserker prowler glory kill where you just double punch his face

[jolly plume]

That one gk where you rip a prowler's spine out should've been a Berserker animation

[solemn wadi]

YES

[delicate grotto]

Love that one

[solemn wadi]

The prowlers gk are the best

[delicate grotto]

Definitely

Devs must’ve really hated them lol

[jolly plume]

I do love brutalizing those purple little bastards

[solemn wadi]

Lmao

[jolly plume]

It was mental prep for the cursed prowlers

[solemn wadi]

Oh god I hate them

[outer quiver]

Most badass i've seen

[solemn wadi]

Dark age glory kills I just know are going to be beautiful

[jolly plume]

I know it's very simple and not bloody at all, but I love the one where you just grab their face and twist their necks left and right. I love neck breaking stuff

[outer quiver]

I hope they will be at all. Because they didnt show us any in the trailer, i was a bit sad

[delicate grotto]

I have a feeling the new melee system will be “replacing” glory kills

[jolly plume]

Probably

[solemn wadi]

Mt favorite glory kills are the ones that show the most guts

The vertical slicing ones are my favorite

[solemn wadi]

I don’t want that to happen
However I trust whatever ID software are doing

[outer quiver]

Yeah, after eternals gk i thought they making them faster to less interrupt gameplay pace, if they fully remove them it will not disrupt the pace, but i will miss them still...

[jolly plume]

I like most where you just use your bare hands to tear them apart. The 1000° knife took away a bit from that. I like clean cuts too, but it's very satisfying to use your fingers to rip a mancubus' core off and feed it to it. The knife version of that gk was meh

[solemn wadi]

Maybe the glory kills are turning into combo acts where you can make the game into your action movie fight scene

[outer quiver]

Yeah after doom 2016, wtf, why this guy needs a knife when he just tear demons apart with hands

[winter idol]

melee is more involved and seems to be its own form of combat so glory kills may not return the way we used to know them

[burnt galleon]

what really needs to happen with this game is they bring both andrew and mick together and blow the internet apart as our eardrums.

[little apex]

sooo… is mick back?

[burnt galleon]

dont think so but if he is for this

[vapid lodge]

most likely not 😦

[burnt galleon]

and also andrew

[inner wigeon]

Does anyone have a good estimate for the heights of the big titans the slayer uses

[burnt galleon]

pacific rim jaeger size

[inner wigeon]

Dang

[vapid lodge]

no real confirmation about Andrew either but he most likely is because he retweeted the TDA trailer

[inner wigeon]

250 feet if I remember correctly

[vapid lodge]

David confirmed he is not involved 😦

[little apex]

kinda devastated ngl

[vapid lodge]

yeah

but the OST is in good hands if its Andrew

[burnt galleon]

def

[vapid lodge]

i just hope to gods that maybe both Andrew and Mick are working on this...

Maybe id patched things up with Mick and he is working secretly, im extremely delusional, I know. But he kept sharing some DOOM stuff on his instagram

[proven lava]

Agreed.

[burnt galleon]

We'll just have to wait and see

[vapid lodge]

yeah probably quake con

[outer quiver]

Nah i think not

[burnt galleon]

Until then, rip and tear, be warmed up for dark ages

[vapid lodge]

yeah, eh... im just hoping

[vapid lodge]

nothing can prepare us for Dark ages man

[outer quiver]

My hopes are dead

[vapid lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/good-movies-rule-gmr-avengers-end-game-movie-don't-give-me-hope-hawkeye-gif-9699367132154830787

[burnt galleon]

Just play doom so u don't forget the combat is what I'm saying

[vapid lodge]

well yes but its gonna be a different pacing so...

[burnt galleon]

Yeah ik that too but the standards

[vapid lodge]

yes fair nuff, but im gonna play it on Nightmare only, same way i did with Eternal

and then after a while UN ofc

[burnt galleon]

Lovely

[outer quiver]

Just play og doom

[inner wigeon]

My goat

Ahhhh the doom slayer hes so cool man. Probably the second coolest doom character

[limpid ridge]

I heard rumors the jump doesnt exist in Doom The dark ages

[outer quiver]

Whos first

[outer quiver]

Just rumors

[inner wigeon]

My goat maligog……. You gotta hear me out on that one

[limpid ridge]

yeah that would be hella goofy

Like what are we not going to be able to look up now Lmfao

[inner wigeon]

Rumors say walking will be disabled in the next doom game

[limpid ridge]

I really hope Hugo got our backs with the new glory kill system

[outer quiver]

Lol best doom mechanic😂

[limpid ridge]

How does it even work

It will be far different than eternal or 2016, right?

[limpid ridge]

Indeed :3

[outer quiver]

I think they just replace low health for glory kill with parry to glory kill

[limpid ridge]

Will it be an animation depending on the angle of the staggered enemy, like the previous games?

Glory kills are the staple of the modern doom franchise, it cannot be overlooked in any way shape or form

(Also the dark ages is looking fucking amazing dude I watched the trailer 25 times lmfao)

[outer quiver]

But they already did. In eternal most of them are quick compared to 2016

[limpid ridge]

yeah Ik I mean I hope they do it even better in the new 2025 game

[outer quiver]

Bro have some sleep at night atlast

Bruh

[limpid ridge]

I go to sleep

Stay up till like 12:00 -12:30 ish during weekends

[outer quiver]

Doom 2016 (good times)
Doom 2020 (covid 19)
Doom 2025 (Dark ages )

[limpid ridge]

Not usually more

[limpid ridge]

2025- a new age of gaming :3

[inner wigeon]

2025 is either gonna be good or terrible

I’m gonna call it. No embetween

[plain moon]

There’s a potential to get GTA 6, Doom The Dark Ages, and something Bloodborne related (cause it’ll be its 10 year anniversary) all in the same year.

[delicate grotto]

Can’t believe it’s already been 4 years since Eternal tbh. Already another Doom game in the works. I was expecting at least a 6 year wait, if there was to be another game. Pleasantly surprised. Just hope the Devs get to take their time and create their vision.

[knotty hinge]

I’m about to beat icon of sin

let’s gooooo

[vast osprey]

Your not the real DOOM SLAYER

[vast osprey]

Your a imposter

[knotty hinge]

no

I am doom slayer

[vast osprey]

No I am

[knotty hinge]

guitar noises

really radical tubular awesome sauce sounds

I know everything

About doom

[vast osprey]

Ok what happened in 2163

[knotty hinge]

you tell me

[empty furnace]

i beat classic mode mars core master level

[sage fog]

not the roleplaying

[empty furnace]

yay

[knotty hinge]

what role playing

[knotty hinge]

Epic

[empty furnace]

that part with the 2 marauders was brutal

especially because no ssg

[knotty hinge]

with no super shotgun is insane

[empty furnace]

that made me appreciate ssg a lot more

[knotty hinge]

Super shotgun and ballista

[vast osprey]

Cool

[knotty hinge]

very cool

[vast osprey]

Also Alana Richardson made her logs on the me THE DOOM SLAYER

[knotty hinge]

nah

we can all agree the uac spokesperson became annoying mars core

[vast osprey]

Are you a GOD DAMN DEMON OR A HOLOGRAM OF MY PAST

ANSWER ME

[empty furnace]

the doom multiverse

[vast osprey]

What is happening

[limpid ridge]

No doomguy is an introvert ur not get outta here

[outer quiver]

You are not a doom slayer, his quiet

[vast osprey]

AND IM TYPING

IT'S NOT TE SAME

[outer quiver]

Mute you

[vast osprey]

I'M GETTING MORE CONFUSED

[torn kite]

i cant wait anymore 😭

the same thing happened when i had to wait for Doom Eternal lmao

[vast osprey]

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN

[outer quiver]

Just play eternal with mods or smth

[torn kite]

wait, doom eternal have mods?

[outer quiver]

Checkout nexus

[vast osprey]

OK I'M OUT

[torn kite]

how i can insall them?

[thorn spade]

You can look it up on Google

[elder radish]

doom

[delicate grotto]

Nah, DOOM

[elder radish]

dOOm

[ivory wind]

Doot

[sand wharf]

#eternal-modding message

[knotty hinge]

Now

Wait a second is that DOOMSLAYER

[surreal finch]

No...

Lol

[knotty hinge]

same bio same name

[surreal finch]

LOL

Best friends fr

[knotty hinge]

Wait but your actual name is lord of demons

[surreal finch]

That was my past

[knotty hinge]

YOU CONTROL DEMON

[surreal finch]

I have repeated for my sins

Lol

[knotty hinge]

far late

[surreal finch]

True

I must die for my sins

[knotty hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-death-animation-kill-animation-doom-kill-animation-gif-25279778

[surreal finch]

And now i may rest

https://tenor.com/view/doomguy-gif-20038226

[frosty spear]

What did I just miss lmao

[surreal finch]

The liberation of my soul

[frosty spear]

I love this

[surreal finch]

Ew intern

I hate intern for like no reason

[frosty spear]

https://tenor.com/view/backhand-hoodwinked2-hoodwinked-meme-gif-24300647

[surreal finch]

Lol

[frosty spear]

I wish somebody made a DOOM version of this

[surreal finch]

Fr

[frosty spear]

Davoth smacking DOOM Slayer would be absolutely hilarious

[surreal finch]

You

I know what i must do

[frosty spear]

Wdym lol

[surreal finch]

@knotty hinge WE HAVE A PROBLEM

[knotty hinge]

wat

[surreal finch]

.

[knotty hinge]

what

it would be funny

[surreal finch]

And i thought i was a demon

https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-gif-20780580

[frosty spear]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-doom-slayer-gaming-toys-gif-16770751

[surreal finch]

Jokes on you im a ghost

[frosty spear]

[surreal finch]

Shit

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-chat-doom-doom-eternal-gif-22638124

[pulsar agate]

e

[frosty spear]

E

[fair walrus]

Is daisy a plot hole in the game now?

I thought it took place in the medieval ages

[crude hatch]

It doesn’t

[fair walrus]

Oh

[honest vortex]

Just Medieval inspired and styled

[fair walrus]

Oh ok

[winter vault]

Yeah the sentinels are all into medieval stuff bc the devs thought it would be cool. They're knights, got those funny bucket helmets, live in a feudal society, etc. And they're being invaded by demons so it's their own dark ages, not ours.

[snow nova]

And that is badass

[echo sage]

saw some doom fans nervous we'd be getting eternal 2.0 but hugo basically confired the opposite

they're streamlining the combat and keeping things more grounded less ariel compared to eternal

the philosphy for the dark ages was to stand and fight

[vivid berry]

Hope we get less intrusive tutorials and pop ups this time

[sonic turret]

No, that's the middle ages, this is the dark ages.

[stone goblet]

OMGGG NEW DOOM

[north spire]

:D

[north spire]

yea, i feel like these types of systems should have something smaller and less intrusive

doom 2016 only did that when it came to glory kills and your upgrade menus

and also the chainsaw

[drifting steppe]

Ya know, for a franchise that revels in brutality like Doom, I'm surprised we've still never gotten QTE's where you could just button-mash to punch a demon in the face repeatedly. (Like how Kratos kept repeatedly beating up Zeus in GoW3.) I mean, it's completely on-brand.

[pulsar agate]

I hope we also get enviroment glory kills like in 2016

[mortal oyster]

This server needs a Doom-Theory channel

[jolly plume]

It makes things 10% faster. Whatever little edge he can get to kill demons as quick as possible to pass to the next ones

[sand wharf]

I feel like this channel here has evolved into just that

Not a bad thing imo

[mortal oyster]

ooo cool

[jolly plume]

There also used to be a channel like this long ago, with theories and lore discussions

It just got deleted for some reason

[mortal oyster]

oooof

[jolly plume]

Yeah. Dark times

[sand wharf]

I think a real Doom theory / lore channel would be too much for poor Mono

[jolly plume]

He was very active back then and would eat up the conversations

[sand wharf]

Lore is his passion, and you can get so much wrong with the story that is told in Doom because it's unnecessarily complicated. It doesn't surprise me that he tried to correct people

[junior atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-hello-chat-doom-eternal-gif-22638125

what do you guys think of the completelly redone arsenal?

[sand wharf]

It's different, it's fresh and new, it's great. I like that the SSG seems to be way more powerful

[junior atlas]

hopefully thell gave it new weapon mod

its litterally the weapon with the least mods

[sand wharf]

Does it need one though? It looks like all those weapons only have primary fire, if I saw that right in the trailer

Like, what kind of alt-fire does the Skullcrusher need? Fire an intact skull?

[past yarrow]

Am I the only one that thinks that the armor is not lore accurate?

[placid saffron]

it likely won't even have meathook

[past yarrow]

I mean, i get that it's cool and all but why does it have the style of the upgraded preator suit?

[placid saffron]

"whatever cool function they can think of"

[sand wharf]

Who knows, I don't like the fur. I'm fine with the spikes but usually you need fur in order to keep warm. The suit covers the Slayer up already, if you go even further there might be some kind of heating system built in

[placid saffron]

not like it really matters considering you're in first person basically all the time lol

[sand wharf]

That is true

[vapid lodge]

could be, i mentioned the exact thing last night

[past yarrow]

No I meant like the fact that we've been shown the sentinel suit and it looks nothing like the armor in the trailer

[placid saffron]

in eternal for example, the only really relevant part of a skin is the gloves. Because THAT is what you are looking at for 99% of the time.

Also why skullface sucks, the gloves are just boring brown

[sand wharf]

Ah you mean the training suit

[past yarrow]

Yeah but in doom eternal we have the photo mode

[placid saffron]

and how much % of the players use that more then once lol

[sand wharf]

Me! Lol

[past yarrow]

I use that a lot actully

And you need to remember they included online gaming in eternal (which i never used)

[placid saffron]

BM was really not that popular

the SP was still the primary attractor and their main focus

[sand wharf]

I still don't have all the achievements for BM, and I don't care about 100%ing the game

[past yarrow]

I did 100% the game but i never got the dlcs

[sand wharf]

I liked them except for the Dark Lord ... or the story twists. But the visuals are great

[past yarrow]

By the way what do you think the ending is going to be?

[placid saffron]

tag2

[placid saffron]

either trapment in hell or the temple falling on doomguy's face if we had to base it off of anything we know

[past yarrow]

I hope they put him in the forever box as an ending

[sand wharf]

The forever box, I like it

[junior atlas]

well of curse thell need to come up with something elswe

[warped sundial]

I think his new cloak drips like a mf. I love it.

[vivid berry]

During the dark ages of this server there was one. It was called #doom-lore and it was filled with stuff that shouldn't leave the shadows

[placid saffron]

*eternal-lore

[warped sundial]

Thoughts on the soundtrack in the trailer?

[mortal oyster]

[warped sundial]

For some reason I thought that was Yoda at first glance. Lol

[vivid berry]

Ah right my mind has blocked those memories

[mortal oyster]

i am straight but damn, this marauder emoji

[sand wharf]

Maras are cool af

[mortal oyster]

[sand wharf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183398655789649962/1251550363824422923/20231011152735_1.jpg?ex=666efc9b&is=666dab1b&hm=6e02b8863885c7eb1b367d19c5b38424ff819a551b3d9285ba3a3753f98eb475&

Had two mods for them installed for a while.

[mortal oyster]

[eternal kestrel]

Is the guy from fortnite getting a new style?

[pastel wigeon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1103229065395191849/1251558032542793759/ulzh78g50j6d1.gif

[unreal grove]

Is Mick Gordon doing the OST for Dark Ages?

[scarlet spoke]

@unreal grove most prolly not

[scarlet spoke]

You making me curious what was on there?

[light hedge]

He is not, he had a falling out with Bethesda and ID software

[unreal grove]

Falling out? What happened? Eternal OST is the best soundtrack ever created

[scarlet spoke]

You don't know bout the controversy?

[unreal grove]

I’ve been weightlifting to the Eternal OST for 4 years and I have never heard about a controversy over Mick Gordon

[light hedge]

Look it up, you will find it

[sand wharf]

It wasn't nice. Mick wasn't getting paid basically, and they argued

[scarlet spoke]

https://youtu.be/CzFxmDyB5dw?si=V5BrkLp2-rEJ3Tto a short summary

[light hedge]

Instead of mick, I think Andrew Hulshult is doing the soundtrack for Doom The Dark Ages

[delicate grotto]

He didn’t get paid for over 10 months, and has yet to receive payment for the additional 2 hours of work used in Eternal.

Pretty shitty.

[scarlet spoke]

Yea he's good too

[light hedge]

I liked his work on TAG

[delicate grotto]

I think his music style will fit perfectly with TDA too

[light hedge]

I agree

[sand wharf]

It does, there's a video on YT where BFG division was playing to the trailer, and it just didn't fit

[warped sundial]

I get a little excited at the idea of parrying a manc, only to bisect with a SSG blast.

Or perhaps a giant sword?

[hazy mist]

Honestly the nail/harpoon gun is the weapon I like the most so far

Tho I’m wondering how the upgrade system(if there is one) will compare to eternal

[cloud lark]

i imagine it'll be the same if not very similar to the weapon mod system

[warped sundial]

Honestly, if they made your firepower sufficient enough, you know "Abrams tank" and all, they could forgo the upgrade system.

Hear me out.

[tame crag]

grab your pitchforks people

[warped sundial]

Integrate a melee system that expands GKs rather than limiting or getting rid of them, and you could put the upgrade system resources into that aspect of gameplay and create something truly special.

[tame crag]

https://tenor.com/view/muppetwiki-muppet-wiki-muppets-muppet-angry-gif-4979240094074316588

[warped sundial]

Parry a hellknight, blast a chunk of his chest out with the ssg, then dissect him with a giant sword.

[cloud lark]

gks?

[warped sundial]

Glory Kills

[cloud lark]

oh right i forgor

a melee system would be sick asf tbf

[warped sundial]

Watching that trailer, I couldn't help getting GOW: Ragnarok vibes. The idea of getting the best of Kratos and the Slayer in one package makes me a little wet, ngl. 🤣

[sonic turret]

I mean Marty literally offered him a six figure sum.

[delicate grotto]

So he’d keep quiet

[sonic turret]

Money's money.

[warped sundial]

For something medieval like TDA, I don't know if Micks style would even work best in game.

[sonic turret]

I mean he managed to pull off the choir of throat singers.

[warped sundial]

I wonder though..maybe Mick and the guys who composed DS3 could collab and make something unique.

[sonic turret]

I'd have loved for them to have hired Bear Mcreary, but it's not likely that they're going to attract any major freelance composers now.

[warped sundial]

Bear on a DOOM title would be peak.

Do we know who's composing TDA yet?

[sonic turret]

I'd do it for free, for the exposure.

[warped sundial]

Hey, make a track like immora, with "RIP AND TEAR" chanting in the background while I'm committing interdimensional hate crimes, and you'll have done plenty to satisfy me.

[toxic slate]

so apparently people are calling TDA 'discount hexen/heretic' lol

[sonic turret]

Why would it be a discount, DA's much more advanced.

[toxic slate]

medieval theme

[warped sundial]

Ha! The best part of TDA is that instead of interdimenional hate crimes, they'll be interdimensional war crimes.

[sonic turret]

And Doom preceded both Heretic and Hexen.

[toxic slate]

apparently Id should've just given us Hexen/Heretic remake instead of TDA

[sonic turret]

In fact, you could easily say that Heretic and Hexen were a discount Catacomb 3D.

By that logic.

And that Quake was also a discount Doom.

[warped sundial]

Sounds like somebody didn't get their way and now they're complaining.

[sonic turret]

Why is that apparent? Heretic and Hexen are Raven Software's business.

[warped sundial]

Doom meets hexen. Why does this upset people, exactly?

[sonic turret]

It doesn't, it upsets me when people call it a "discount Heretic/Hexen"

[toxic slate]

exactly, people dont know what theyre talking about

[warped sundial]

I've played maybe an hour of Hexen on ps1 so I don't have much to say about it, but to see some of that get the DOOM treatment would tickle just the right itch, I think.

[toxic slate]

personally after playing Eviternity and making it until Hallow
doom needs a medieval themed version

[warped sundial]

Hell, I had never even heard of DOOM until COVID happened and I it was a "fuck it I'm bored" download off of ps now. Sure glad I did that. Lmao

[toxic slate]

im a little embarrassed to say this, but my first taste of doom was brutal doom

before that i just thought of it as that 3d but not really game that the movie was based off of

[warped sundial]

Generally, I'm not even a fan of shooters as a whole, but DOOM 2016 scratched juuuuuuust the right itch.

[sonic turret]

And let me guess, you're a itchy person?

[warped sundial]

I played all the original DOOMs on DOOM Eternal lmao

[warped sundial]

Nah, I got treated for that.

[pulsar agate]

I think only doom 1 doom 2 and doom 64 are canon

Because after doom 64 he gets tpd into a portal ((another universe))

What if everything after doom 64 thats happening is only happening in his mind and what if he died when he entered that "portal"

[fresh path]

I think Doom 3 could still be canon due to the multidimensional aspect of Hell.
There’s a place in TAG Part 1 named after the main villain from it.
Though that could just be a cheeky Easter egg.

[delicate grotto]

It is technically canon, since there’s multiple universes in Doom, it’s just not part of the timeline we’re following

[tame crag]

i think mOno mentioned that last week

[fresh path]

I always assumed there were three universes where the UAC existed.
The original one where their soldiers all wear suits like Doomguy.
The Doom 3 one.
And the reboot one where humans are presumably descended from the Argenta.

[grim girder]

True but where in the timeline does TDA fall because I’m under the impression Doom 2016 is preceded by Doom 64 unless TDA shows us how Slayer ends up in the sarcophagus at the start

[delicate grotto]

TDA is set between Doom 64 and Doom 2016, where the Slayer gets his powers from the Divinity Machine and fights a war between the Sentinels and Hell

[pulsar agate]

they made him walk in the trap in a castle then they collapsed it on him then a titan and it was enough to stun him to be put in. a sacorphagus

[delicate grotto]

Yep. That happens after he gets trapped in Hell again by the Priests and Maykrs

[grim girder]

Nice

[pulsar agate]

and thats how he got that mark

[winter idol]

i started replaying 2016 today and man I honestly like some of the slower gameplay aspects better than eternal

makes me excited for the slower gameplay in dark ages

[mint estuary]

I wonder if you can even jump

I saw no specific reason to jump in the trailer, and the part where he jumps off the ledge could have been a cutscene or just for the trailer, space may be for shield or something

[hazy mist]

That’s what i was thinking since so far it seems that damage is pretty high already

And it might just come down to more tools or things you can do with them as upgrades

[hazy mist]

I was thinking about asking if doom guy jumped a single time because I don’t think he does

Atleast without the shield

[mint estuary]

yeah just that little hop off the edge at the nailgun part

[hazy mist]

Also just noticed that imp that gets hit by the harpoon gun lands in a spiked wall

Wonder if there’s more environmental hazards this time

[winter idol]

Didnt see any in the trailer but it looked like they were showing more open areas of the game so i wouldnt be surprised if there were

[flat quail]

Will there be rtx for the new doom?

[hard thistle]

Idk probably

[bold imp]

What day is dark ages going to come out

[compact ice]

I don't know

[soft turret]

There's no release date yet

December 31st 2025

[snow nova]

Have they been planning on this game for 5 years?

[sonic turret]

Friday, ready for the weekend.

[bold imp]

What?

[harsh egret]

Tomorrow!

"Not quite tomorrow"

[sturdy root]

All we know is its dropping in 2025

[bold imp]

Ok

[sturdy root]

Like gta 6 lol

[bold imp]

👍

[empty furnace]

why does cod take up 80% of my computer storage

[tame crag]

yes

[warped sundial]

Listening to Hugo Martin talk about the "Summer blockbuster" aspect of the game, i wonder if id isn't thinking about summer 2025.

You guys think we'll get to hear any official tracks from the game before launch?

[summer summit]

I still hope that the multiplayer mode(s), if it has any, will be better than that Battle mode crap in Doom Eternal. I understand that ID doesn't want to chase online multiplayer shooter game tropes, nor do they want Doom The Dark Ages to be compared to Halo and Call of Duty, but still.

[warped sundial]

I think id is missing out on a massive profit by not making a new Unreal Tournament.

[summer summit]

Id didn't make Unreal Tournament, it was Epic Games who made it.

[warped sundial]

Oh. My bad. Lol.

My point stands. Unreal or Quake would make a killing in the competitive shooter market.

[haughty idol]

Why isn't it then

Quake champions has been out for 6 years

[hard thistle]

Probably late 2025 like November minimum

[tame crag]

doubt it

march or may

no point in showing it this Early if it was nov 2025

[hard thistle]

Ig you’re right we did already get gameplay

Im so used to games showing off cinematics first

[warped sundial]

My birthday is November 24. I'll wait.

[tame crag]

for AAA single player fps's pretty much do not exist indie is where most of them are at and there are plenty of good ones

i will gladly wait

[sonic turret]

Give or take, usually if devs say Summer, that usually means Fall to Christmas.

[warped sundial]

One thing I'd like TDA to keep is the Slayer Gates.

[sonic turret]

Yeah, maybe the Slayer had his Unmaykr taken from him by the Deag and he has to earn it back by completing the Slayer Gates.

Or perhaps the Slayer Gates could be a part of the Colisseum experience.

[warped sundial]

I wonder if were going to be on Sentinel Prime for the entire game.

[tame crag]

i am hoping the slayer gates can be enterd from teh main menu

[sonic turret]

Nah, I mean we're definitely going to Hell and to Mars, based on the trailer.

[tame crag]

oh you mean hub yeh that would be nice

[sonic turret]

At least I know I'm going to Hell anyway.

[warped sundial]

The only thing they fear is you.

[tame crag]

that track is awsome

[sonic turret]

I can think of a few others too. Maybe I'll put together a team. Who would be in your rip and tear fantasy dream team?

[summer summit]

I'm sure we shall see whether Doom The Dark Ages will have multiplayer or not. Whether it's gonna be that stupid Battle mode from Doom Eternal, or the return of traditional multiplayer, or something better.

[warped sundial]

Immora is probably my personal favorite. That chant of "RIP AND TEAR" just hits different.

[sonic turret]

Kar En Tuk

[warped sundial]

How many members do I get?

[sage fog]

Most likely co-op

[sage fog]

Poorly marketed, initial release on a store no one used, free to play game that wasn't easy to run (usually kills most F2P games)

[sonic turret]

I suppose it depends on power scaling.

[warped sundial]

I wanna see the look on a demons face when they realize there are two Slayers in front of them.

[sonic turret]

The stronger and more OP they are, the less you get.

[sage fog]

Last part is why I had to drop it in 2017

My PC could run DOOM 2016 on high, but struggled to launch Quake on low

I've a way better one that doesn't struggle anymore, but still

[summer summit]

I feel it'll be co-op too, but I feel that it won't be part of the campaign mode, but rather a separate extraction/horde mode.

[sage fog]

well yeah it will probs be a optional mini campaign or a arcade like mode where you and your friends compete to see who kills more

[warped sundial]

Give me Kratos, Darth Vader, and Guts

[sonic turret]

I had a feeling you'd drop Kratos first, which era?

[warped sundial]

Hmm. Just killed Ares and took the throne.

[sonic turret]

I'd probably add Spawn and Dante to the roster.

[warped sundial]

Idk about Spawn. That dude killed god and Satan and reset existence.

[lusty heart]

is dark ages only for ps5/pc/xbox or is it also coming to switch

[warped sundial]

No way switch could run a modern Doom game, right?

[lusty heart]

i have eternal on my switch

[sonic turret]

Early less self-aware Spawn, after recently being resurrected.

[lusty heart]

the graphics is pretty bad tho

hard to tell whats going on most of the time

[sonic turret]

I hear mostly praise for the Switch ports.

[lusty heart]

should i run eternal on the switch ports?

[sonic turret]

But I can imagine it's disorienting on a smaller screen.

[summer summit]

Unfortunately, I doubt it'll ever come to the Switch. 2016 and Eternal already had to be downgraded immensely in order to be ported to the Switch, I couldn't imagine how they'll port The Dark Ages to the Switch. Maybe the Switch's successor perhaps.

[warped sundial]

I'm feeling that. I'd personally swap Dante for Nero, bit that's a matter of peraonal taste. Though idk, Nero might he able to take Dante.

[lusty heart]

sad day 😔

[sonic turret]

Yeah, we're talking post-Switch generation tech, if anything, it'll be ported to a next gen handheld.

[lusty heart]

hopefully dark ages comes out with some good toy lines haha

[warped sundial]

Any rumors on what upgrades the switch 2 is making?

[lusty heart]

the toy lines are great. would be awesome to see a dark ages slayer action figure

[lusty heart]

is there actually going to be a switch 2?

[warped sundial]

Some people are hating on the fur cape. I think it fucks.

[sonic turret]

I dunno, I think of Dante in terms of having more experience and being more familiar with Hell's infrastructure and ecosystem.

[summer summit]

Inevitably yes.

[lusty heart]

the cape is hard af. reminds me of kratos

[sonic turret]

I like the look, kinda Vikingie. Metal AF.

[lusty heart]

makes the slayer more mature as well. im a fan of it

[warped sundial]

In that case, give me Vergil. He was down there an awful long time.

[summer summit]

We don't know if it's gonna be called the "Switch 2".

[warped sundial]

That wasn't the only GoW vibe I got from the trailer, either. And I'm not mad. If it's great, it inspires.

[sonic turret]

He reminds me of Cor Leonis the Immortal from Final Fantasy 15.

But he'd also have that Commander Valen vibe too.

[summer summit]

Nintendo doesn't typically name their consoles the same way Sony (and Microsoft) does.

[warped sundial]

Square Enix sucks, Final Fantasy does not.

[reef zephyr]

I think they should make a uac guard slayerskin

[lusty heart]

im really hyped about the shield and the dragon honestly

[sonic turret]

I got a lot of Predator and AVP vibes from the trailer.

[warped sundial]

I really liked XV when the Royal Edition came put and fleshed the story out better.

[sonic turret]

But then Alien and Predator are no secret to have been two of Doom's muses.

[reef zephyr]

Do you guys think they'll have skins in tda

[lusty heart]

doom guy’s physique is insane in eternal. hopefully his physique goes under some major change in size besides his armor

[warped sundial]

It'd he weird if they didn't.

[reef zephyr]

Yeah

[sonic turret]

I'd already put in the majority of my hours prior to the Royal Edition, so I can't really remember what it added.

[sonic turret]

Male menopause perhaps

[lusty heart]

i’d imagine he’d only be stronger

hopefully they give doomguy some competition

[warped sundial]

It adds like three to four chapters of content between whatsherface dying, and Noctis is suddenly an old fuck on his way to die.

[sonic turret]

Depends, I mean will DA be his prime, or will he keep getting stronger as he reaches 2016 and Eternal?

[warped sundial]

It fleshes out the structure of the second act.

[sonic turret]

I thought that was already in the base game? I remember chapter 13 part 2 or whatever with Gladio and Ignis fighting Verstahel.

[lusty heart]

DA is a prequel to eternal?

i wasn’t sure if it was i was too hooked on the gameplay itself lol

[sonic turret]

Yeah, takes place between Doom 64 and 2016.

[lusty heart]

DA would def not be his peak then

doomguy’s triceps are literally the size of an ox

[sonic turret]

He's relying more on his brute strength in DA, whereas in 2016 and Eternal, he has much more advanced weaponry and upgrades to his praetor suit.

[lusty heart]

i agree

6’8 360lbs and looks like single digit bodyfat

[lyric walrus]

ok

[honest vortex]

eiges

d
a
r
k

[jaunty quiver]

darq eyjs

drq ajs

[honest vortex]

Derek Aejiss

[jaunty quiver]

daraq aegis

[hard thistle]

WOOOOO DOOM DARK AGES

[jaunty quiver]

starless epoch

strls epoc

[topaz mango]

I kinda wish doom guy was wearing something like the sentinel armor

[neon perch]

Doom The Back Stages.

Doom The Park Mages.

Doom The Stuck Pages.

[near iron]

What?

[neon perch]

Doom The Shark Cages.

[near iron]

That’d make a good game lmao

[neon perch]

Doom The Mark H.

and my personal favorite- Doom The Tummy Aches.

These titles are all my personal property. Donut steel.

[forest steeple]

Doom The Fart Wages

[sage fog]

we probably will see him use something like that considering this is him only after becoming the weapon, as a slave soldier he probs used the sentinel armor

[mint estuary]

yeah before they realised who they were fuckin with

[honest vortex]

Doom The Shart Rages

[neon perch]

I wonder if we'll see Doomguy coming through a portal fresh outta Doom 64 into TDA.

[mint estuary]

yeah I would love it to pick up right from there

as I said itd be sick to see him in the doom64 armour but idk if he canonically had different armour or if thats just a game thing

[clever mural]

Wait so
Since dark ages takes place before doom 2016, how does the slayer's armor go from that badass looking suit to the 2016 praetor?

[mint estuary]

when whatever shit happened that caused them to put him in a box

we dont know until we beat the game

[clever mural]

Fair

[mint estuary]

man I love how every doom game still canonically takes place lol

rather than them just making doom2016 as the retelling or something, even though it had the same events as doom 1 and eternal had the events of doom 2

[soft turret]

The praetor suit was before they collapsed the blood temples on him

[mint estuary]

the what

I mean like where he wakes up on that slab in doom 2016, cant remember if that was a box actually but yeah I meant like something had to have happened in dark ages to lead to that either way

[soft turret]

The thing that happened

Was that they collapsed the blood temples on him and knocked him out

Then they put him in the sarcophagus

As for the 2016 suit, it was given to him by an entity known as "The Wretch", long before that happened

[delicate grotto]

All we know rn is that the Wretch gave the Slayer his 2016 armor.
We don’t even know who the Wretch is exactly.

[dusk tulip]

Honestly I'm kinda excited about this

[unique tartan]

how much will the game cost?

[edgy geyser]

Dark ages?

[winter idol]

probably 70 bucks

[tulip gyro]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[late pivot]

Oh god

[honest vortex]

Un god

[late pivot]

On god?

[honest vortex]

On gud

[late pivot]

Hold on ima make list of rhymes rq

[outer quiver]

Fuck ubisoft

[winter idol]

the hell does ubisoft have to do with this?

[outer quiver]

The reason for 70$ price on pc games

[winter idol]

false

"In 2020, Take-Two Interactive became the first company to raise its standard game prices from the traditional $60 to $70."

[outer quiver]

First doesnt mean they made it standart for industry

[winter idol]

bro what? ubisoft didnt make other studios do it lmao

[vapid lodge]

you can see in his ship at his desk, that he was working on the suit... he is basically an engineer and probably added modifications himself...

that would explain 2016 to eternal

but i'd figure he would do this from TDA to 2016 too xD

[outer quiver]

Say me that they didnt make other studious add fucking towers to their games

[winter idol]

they didnt

what other studios have added towers into their games?

[vapid lodge]

bought eternal 6 or 7 times lmfao

all platforms lol

[fringe frost]

Guys, when does the dark ages take place in history?

[hard thistle]

So doom the dark ages huh?

Meanwhile I havent even played through Doom 2016 or Eternal

[light hedge]

It takes place before DOOM 2016. It takes place in the first war between the knight sentinels and the demons… I think.

[hard thistle]

Hopefully this one will still support Windows 7 so I can buy it and check it out

[fringe frost]

I imagined that would be something like that, makes sense

Thanks for explain @light hedge

[inner lava]

Hi. I just joined so idk and i’m a lil antisocial so yeah

But i also am playing Eternal right now. Attempting the golden shotgun challenge, i got 2 more to do.

[delicate grotto]

Welcome! And nice, good luck dude

[dark yacht]

Guys the mech inside the trailer is the same mech in the fortress of doom

Awesome

[gusty moth]

Yeh

[hard thistle]

the black ages

[hard thistle]

This is correct.

The game seems to take place during the Unholy Wars, the long battle between the Night Sentinels and the demons.

It's unclear what period of time during, other than after the rise of the Slayer.

[still owl]

Doom, the Not Mick Gordon Ages

[soft turret]

Can't wait to see how the deeper melee system is implemented

[gusty moth]

definitely gonna be a change from the usual doom games

so hyped for it

[soft turret]

Same

There's a high likelihood that it'll replace glorykills altogether.

[pulsar agate]

guys what would you do if EA bought doom

[plain moon]

So apparently, some already made a mod for og Doom that adds the shield saw to the game.

[pulsar agate]

yes ik

og doom mods are more cooler than mods in modern doom games

[fleet spruce]

Does it even need an answer? Obviously part ways since it'll become annual live service model slop filled to brim with microtransactions

[plain moon]

As a community, I feel like we could bully them into submission. Maybe some of us could even infiltrate EA and make sure they don’t screw anything up.

[soft turret]

We really couldn't.

Don't prop up the Doom community's MC syndrome

[sage fog]

well yeah it's like the easiest game to mod in the world

[sage fog]

gatekeeping poor gameplay design with shitty tutorials as a "filter" and "this game isn't for you" back in 2020

saying it's the only good FPS ever made

hell some people were even saying that the OG games sucked and only Eternal was good

[tribal lagoon]

the tutorials where annoying but i can understand why for some mechanics I GUESS.

though some complainst about eternal where just lame

like the 'puzzles'

[sage fog]

the problem wasn't them being annoying, they straight up gave wrong info, the marauder for example

[tribal lagoon]

ah thats what you where talking abt

yeah i agree with you there

[sage fog]

back at launch, the advice was straight up wrong, causing LOTS of people to hate that fucker

if it just said "bait him into attacking, his eyes will flash when he commits to an attack" people would have had a far easier time

[tribal lagoon]

cool in concept not the best execution

[pulsar agate]

my mom said no to doom tda

[tribal lagoon]

damn

[pulsar agate]

[tribal lagoon]

anyway tda looks cool a more grounded approach sounds awesome

[sage fog]

hopefully it hits the same sweet spot 2016 did

balance story, lore, gameplay and immersion

[tribal lagoon]

i trust id software knows what there doing handling combat design.

[sage fog]

Eternal didn't balance this well at all lmao, all went on gameplay

[tribal lagoon]

story was kind of batshit wild but i enjoyed it because of that lol

i do prefer 2016s approach though

[sage fog]

2016's approach was great, the big story already happened, we are in the aftermath

fixing up the mess the UAC made, if we wanna know the big story, we go read the codex

[tribal lagoon]

hugo did say he wanted to build a Doom universe so a game like Eternal was inevitable I think

[sage fog]

Eh

he didn't start building a doom universe

he started building a sentinel universe around doom

[austere raptor]

agreed

[sage fog]

he basically did what Ridley Scott did to Alien

telling a completely different story and making a complete different universe at the cost of everything the Franchise he is using used to be

[soft turret]

I feel like you're taking your assumptions that Doom 2016's Hell was different from Eternal's too far.

Same for Heaven

In 2016 everything as told by the Slayer's testaments could have simply been ambiguous, shrouded in legend.

[sage fog]

He made the only 2 non demon affiliated characters from 2016 be deeply connected to the sentinels and maykrs 😭

[soft turret]

There's even Maykr depictions in the mp maps.

[sage fog]

Pretty sure those statues were meant to be the Wraiths

[soft turret]

Can't send images

The depictions in the mp maps don't look very bat-like to me

Which the wraiths are

Only similarity i can spot are the tentacle like legs

[soft turret]

That's really the only fair difference that isn't up to interpretation.

Taking the Slayer's testaments too literal is up to the player

Of course they're gonna be insane sounding when the story is being told by the beings the Slayer is trying to bring to extinction

[sage fog]

sorry was taking a shower

[sage fog]

the faces tho

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/687781300232388650/1251832911909486612/image.png?ex=667003c0&is=666eb240&hm=fe4f1272c25b3a2f0056afa1ad096e441358632894f0e55fe81ae77797c0b4a2&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/687781300232388650/1251832963637972992/image.png?ex=667003cc&is=666eb24c&hm=2c30bf35fc3d10c99d824bb3def9e6f37422148fcbffc093c4205b8a146e679e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

artstation links not allowed

[sage fog]

its also worth noting

the MP maps have 3 "Angel statues", we free 3 Wraiths in the campaign

[knotty hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doomguy-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-gif-17796023110931187535

[sage fog]

I really hope we get to see uncyberezed individuals of 2016's Cyberdemon's species

as it was implied there was once many of them before Slayer killed most

[plain moon]

Same. I feel like they should be super heavy demons in TDA. They would be really fun to fight.

[honest vortex]

The statue on Argent Breach looks EXACTLY like the Maykr that says "welcome home great Slayer"

Also the very first Marauder artwork shown was him on Argent Breach from 2016

[honest vortex]

Not just that, but straight up Maykr architecture and structures on Orbital for example.

Also a map called Empyrian.

[sonic turret]

I think DA should have random occurrences, like for example some enemies could explode when you try to glory kill them, but make it random so you never can anticipate which enemies will explode and take away your health.

[uneven timber]

Probably no use in hoping this considering how games are nowadays

But i seriously hope that the game wont be 110+ gigabytes

[sonic turret]

And I think they should clip the ceilings so that speed runners can't skip entire areas, and have to complete the map properly.

[sage fog]

I'm talking 2016, not Eternal

[sage fog]

I don't think we are getting glory kills

We are getting mace melee attacks instead like in the trailer

[honest vortex]

Argent Breach is from 2016. Lol

[sage fog]

Someone asked Hugo about Glory Kills and he avoided the question

[sage fog]

Yes, and you are applying Eternal retcons and lore to something in 2016

I'm talking about 2016s lore ignoring Eternals changes and influences

[honest vortex]

What?

All I said was the statue on Argent Breach from DOOM 2016's Multiplayer looks exactly like the Maykr from Sentinel Prime in DOOM Eternal.

Not sure how that's a retcon.

[sage fog]

And no Maykrs and Heaven weren't planned, the concept artist for the 3 statues said they were just designing things for the sentinels to have worshiped, which was eventually reused in Eternal and used as the main inspiration for Maykrs designs

[worn coral]

I think they did say how they wanted to change the core game in order to make the gameplay even more dynamic and brutal and I think that glory kill was more of a slow down in the game than anything else

[sage fog]

Read the full convo

[sage fog]

Glory kills were good but became too integral the loop in Eternal, they should be more like 2016 or even AvP 2010 where they are there to look cool instead of being a full on necessary you always need to do mechanic

Specially cuz in Eternal, since you had to be doing them so much, you would get sick of seeing the same animations over n over

[honest vortex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1239360180966260802/1251851416142610442/doom-orbital-exterior_1.jpg?ex=667014fb&is=666ec37b&hm=d1e355607dd4a350f2b28312ea7d3965a58ab335d0eb1fe74e847bfb30ca799f&

Orbital was so damn Maykr lmao

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1239360180966260802/1251851982558461962/ix9z28id9zp41_1.png?ex=66701582&is=666ec402&hm=64fb76990e8440f5c1b6010a3b6c9ce011b16819bbb27805c6ecba6acb843f46&

[worn coral]

I mean I found it more interesting when it had a technical purpose more than a "cool" purpose. But then I would understand why they want to replace it with something more dynamic

[sage fog]

Yeah, they reused lots of concepts from the 2016 MP in Eternal

Not just the status and Orbital's aesthetic, you can see MP customization on the soldiers too, not to mention the Prowler

The world spear is based off a random planet you see in a 2016 map too

Doesn't mean it was planned all along, cuz it def wasn't lol

[clever mural]

Is that the doom 2016 UI on an eternal map????

[honest vortex]

I actually didn't know the World Spear thing.

[sage fog]

Yeah you can see it in either orbital or another map, but the spear itself is way fatter

@honest vortex
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/687781300232388650/1251853553790619739/images1.jpg?ex=667016f9&is=666ec579&hm=f83298a2a3887474ad1bb97959a8455287297db43d425227a24e8a671c83f83f&
Here, originally dubbed of dead planets

Remember instantly recognizing these in Eternal

Well, at least the last one

[urban otter]

Will dark ages have the blood punch and the finishers?

[sage fog]

Probs not

Melee combat system seems to have replaced glory kills

[sage fog]

It is interesting but after a while it becomes tedious and loses it's style, specially with all the weird sfx the last one had

[light schooner]

ayoooooooo

hello server

I'm new

[worn coral]

Yeah I agree on that. I'll be very interested to see what they'll do with the melee weapons

[worn coral]

Hello! Welcome!

[light schooner]

thanks

[sage fog]

Also, speaking of dynamic finishers

[light schooner]

i'm spanish

[sage fog]

The crucible not letting me swing the sword around was so disappointing

Hopefully the one in this game is dynamic

[soft turret]

The crucible was so fucking boring

And the animations looked so silly too

Especially the baron front one

[light schooner]

I am making an effort with English (translate)😅

[soft turret]

Bro just hits you with a blank stare as he gets split in half, silly as hell

[sage fog]

I sleep now

Goodnight chat

[soft turret]

Gn

[pulsar agate]

red alert the chat died

[clever tree]

Sup y'all

[pulsar agate]

KOD i saw the "welocme" fr

im good wbu though im currently installing doom 2016

[glad kettle]

im currently playing it

[clever tree]

I just deleted because I wanted to change my greeting

[pulsar agate]

im playing it bc of nostalgia its my first doom game

[pulsar agate]

oh lol

[glad kettle]

it's hard to believe it's been 8 years already

[clever tree]

oh shit

I usually saw an active in DOOM Eternal it was arround 900-1200 and now it's 2600

[hard thistle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx9X8ncSQUQ

[misty beacon]

[robust phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/goj-gif-26343293

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[ashen dove]

alohhh presidenteee

[light schooner]

hola

que tal todo bien

que has dicho en ruso?

soy español no ruso

[ashen dove]

estaba diciendo que este nuevo juego tiene una pintaza por las nuevas armas mecanicas y ya ni hablar del titan y los dragones

[light schooner]

ya

[ashen dove]

entre esto y gta 6 me corro

[light schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/jerk-off-the-hangover-ken-jeong-jerk-off-motion-screw-you-gif-5953847

literal

[ashen dove]

vamos a robar gamepass

[light schooner]

yo ya lo tengo

😉

[ashen dove]

webos

[light schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/minions-shh-quiet-movie-movies-gif-11885588

dark ages es simplemente cine

[ashen dove]

ddoy fe, se vienen cositas. y veamos lo que promete el lore

[light schooner]

ya

espero q sea igual o mejor que el eternal

[ashen dove]

la mayor cosa es como enlaza todo con la linea temporal, osea quien carajos es este slayer y por que habia uno hace tanto tiempo

[jolly plume]

It's the same guy

[ashen dove]

oh thanks, that have more sense. There is only one and unrivaled

[light schooner]

yo me entere que salia ayer y ya estoy enamorado

[ashen dove]

https://youtu.be/4QJ9k9XZ9dU

[light schooner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsU13w3ZzI0

tendremos que esperar hasta 2025 para esta maravilla

cute cat, te envie peticion de amigo

perdon te he eliminado sin querer