the-dark-ages

[neon perch]

I love cars.

[fresh path]

The Imp almost looks like it might be getting a new model.
Unless it’s a new kind of demon based on the Doom 1 & 2 Imp.

[gusty moth]

I'm so down for that

[neon perch]

It's a revamped Arch-Vile.

[crude hatch]

Can we get the play by play on monsters?

[fresh path]

Is that what it is?

[placid saffron]

i hope it means there are still cool finishers instead of having a "crucible" esque effect where you just use the same generic animation for every enemy

[fresh path]

It looked a lot smaller than the Hell Knight.

[digital sentinel]

when i saw it in the trailer i thought it was a prowler lol

[neon perch]

literally my first reaction upon seeing it was 'damn my boy shorter than I remember'.

[glass schooner]

So Guys, i made an multiplayer mode concept for the new doom game its not good but it visualizes my idea so tell me if the idea is good or would work and i hope that the image works: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/617714311607091200/1250141619349356766/IMG_0561.JPG?ex=6669dc9c&is=66688b1c&hm=efd21aa05ab20519e85d416871d09bf59aa7504ee6c7b5528226472fc554e79d&

[gusty moth]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doometernal-doomslayer-gif-21861595

[delicate grotto]

Their attacks are very reminiscent of their classic counterparts. New models as well.

[hard thistle]

Same.
I think what I hope they do here is establish that demons will act differently depending on how you deal with them. Like the rider - maybe you execute the rider but the Pinky goes nuts, or kill the Pinky but the Rider runs around and is a nuisance. Freedom to do what you want for the game should be juxtaposed by the demon AIs changing depending on how you attack, so that you can choose how to deal with situations while remembering that each method has its own consequences.

[soft turret]

The crucible was always so dumb

[gusty moth]

Never even bothered using it

[delicate grotto]

I found it underwhelming tbh

[neon perch]

I use it to get the gunk between my toes.

[gusty moth]

💀

[soft turret]

Looks so cool but all it does is play an animation where a demon hits you with a blank stare and you split it in half

[placid saffron]

it's fun for exactly that 1 arena you get it aaaannnd it sucks now

[honest vortex]

Reminds me of Halo where the grunts run in fear when the Elites or Brutes are killed.

[gusty moth]

It's cool one shotting, but it gets lackluster

[neon perch]

It's also a handy keychain accessory.

[delicate grotto]

The hammer is super fun. Overpowered though.

[hearty flame]

Crucibule just takes out the fun of Doom Eternal

[glass schooner]

hopefully it works now: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/617710888321024042/1250142923409068182/IMG_0561.JPG?ex=6669ddd3&is=66688c53&hm=f9103a2b5f74d55e7e82f517f1e703654396e4096b8fca9f153e53c899b02a0a&

[soft turret]

"They got Elite, RUN!!!!"

[glass schooner]

So thats my mp concept for the new doom

[neon perch]

Bro just proposed a Battle Royale.

[glass schooner]

i jsut liked the bf operation mission types sry

[neon perch]

(I'm joking.)

[granite oasis]

i wonder if battlemode comes back

[neon perch]

not even sure if this one will have multiplayer.

[glass schooner]

thank god

[glass schooner]

someone told me its a 90 percent chance cause last games all had it

[neon perch]

BM could actually work this time around, given that there's melee combat.

Who knows.

[placid saffron]

i hope there isn't any MP so there is just 100% focus on the SP

[glass schooner]

true hopefully they make it more beginner friendly so more people play it and arent just annoyed

[glass schooner]

but mp makes the game live longer

[granite oasis]

I hope they don't kids need to learn to get good

[placid saffron]

not if it's in a part people don't care about

[glass schooner]

good point

[granite oasis]

people still playing eternal battlemode btw

[placid saffron]

eternal didn't last a year long because of it's MP lol, it lasted that long because the singleplayer experience was just that good

[hard thistle]

^^^

I hope they don't add a multiplayer mode and just focus on ironing out the singleplayer as much as possible.

[fresh path]

I feel like a game really shouldn’t be criticized for difficulty unless it’s completely unfair in a game breaking way.

[glass schooner]

yea but some slayer players are really fucked up in a good way but not for a demon player

[neon perch]

Battlemode sucks! Doom 2016 multiplayer better!

has 0 players

(I actually heavily dislike both.)

[granite oasis]

doom 2016 mp sucks, quake champions is right there

i like how eternal did something different

[neon perch]

Honestly yeah. If I were to give ID their dues, it's kudos for trying out something new with DE even if it didn't really work. Contrast to 2016's lame-ass Halo copycat.

[placid saffron]

or just dumb
like difficulty just making enemies do more damage and take less damage. Boooooriiing

[glass schooner]

i mean i know there are some mp fans and some that dont like it which i cn understand but it would be good for the game tbh

[granite oasis]

2016 mp really did feel like halo

doom shouldn't be slow

[neon perch]

BM actually gives you access to a good chunk of the weapons and abilities from the campaign, and most importantly, you get to use what you learned from playing it and apply it accordingly.

2016's campaign and multiplayer couldn't be any more different from one another.

[glass schooner]

idk if battlemode has skill based matchmaking because i remember my first round ever and i got completly fcked up

[neon perch]

It's more casual-friendly, I'll give it that, but that's about it. It's every bit as unbalanced as the main campaign with none of the power fantasy elements present. Just 1-2 weapon loadout spam over and over, hoarding demon runes, raking in free kills, and getting immediately one-shot by a screecher that you couldn't hear right behind you because the audio mixing is cheeks.

[drifting steppe]

I'm mainly wondering how many of the boss battles teased from the Testaments and Codices would show up here.

[grim cloud]

they are probalby going to try something different. But i would love to see DM, BM and Coop Horde. yes im greedy.

[glass schooner]

same

[drifting steppe]

Some of the major notable ones are:

1. The Titan of Taras Nabad AKA when the Slayer was given his powers.
2. The "Great One" in Hell.
3. The unmodded Baalgar Demon.

Did I miss out any?

[hard thistle]

A Dreadnought fight is possible. I don't think we'll see the Great One or the Baalgar, though.

[grim cloud]

and give me invasions. I want taht so fing badly

[grim cloud]

i want to battle baalgars. Give me baalgars

[glass schooner]

i think dreadnought is fought with a atlan mech

[grim cloud]

Do you konw what they should def add though? Purple Cacodemons.

[drifting steppe]

The first Dreadnought wasn't fought with an atlan. It was just you and your crucible.

[glass schooner]

yea but i mean in the new game though

[drifting steppe]

Oh yeah for sure.

[glass schooner]

also i think crucible will be in TDA maybe its the mace that the have shown

[drifting steppe]

I'd love more Hell Guards. I also noticed he's wearing a proper Praetor suit and not the Sentinel armor. So they're gonna have to reveal to us who the "Wretch" is. I hope.

[hard thistle]

This is before the Wretch's time. It seems this was a suit he got before the Wretch gave him the 2016 armor.

[drifting steppe]

Maybe, but we don't entirely know that. Chances are they just showed us this skin as the default, and we could be starting off the first 2 missions in Sentinel duds before we meet the Wretch.

[fresh path]

I used to think that the classic Doomguy uniform was transformed into the Praetor Suit somehow, but that must not be the case.

[drifting steppe]

They're definitely inspired. His armor is custom-made. Cuz the regular Night Sentinel armor doesn't look like his either. His rise as the Warrior Khan of the Sentinels is what inspired them to take on his aesthetic.

[hard thistle]

The Wretch made the 2016 armor seemingly from scrap.

You can see serial numbers and corpo bullshit on the metal.

[drifting steppe]

Aye. I don't think we should see marauders until the end though. Because right now, most of the higher-ranking Sentinels are still on his side. I'm guessing we're going to witness the downfall of the Argenta people as they get corrupted more and more into marauders.

Doubtful.

[hard thistle]

Yeah unfortunately I doubt we'll be seeing Marauders. The trailer clearly is before the Civil War, so Marauders are not a thing yet.

[drifting steppe]

I mean, they could save it for the final 2 missions.

[vapid lodge]

there could be marauders before they were demonized

[fresh path]

We might get them in the second half of the game or DLC.

[drifting steppe]

Maybe the game ends with an epic battle in the Temple where they chained him down and shoved him in a box.

[vapid lodge]

you can see sentinels from both sides, allies and enemies

[drifting steppe]

Those are killed Sentinels, fallen and their husks taken over. Marauders were volunteers.

[hard thistle]

Well, yes, but my point is Marauders are loyalist Sentinels who serve the Khan in opposition to the Slayer. They are defined by being loyalists in the Civil War. But we know the Civil War has not started yet in the trailer, because the Slayer is being shot out of a Maykr command station, implying he still serves the Khan. He was against the Maykrs in the Civil War.

[drifting steppe]

Bingo. They'll be our allies.

[fresh path]

Arn’t Marauders a hybrid thing?
I recall something saying that Makyr technology was involved in their creation as well.

[hard thistle]

So they wouldn't be Marauders. Just Night Sentinels.

[drifting steppe]

We'd likely also fight alongside Valen, and watch his tragic spiral into treachery.

[glass schooner]

yea the base enemies are corrupted sentinels so kinda maraduer like but not the same

[vapid lodge]

its gonna be lit guys

can't wait...

[hard thistle]

Marauders as we see them in Eternal are Night Sentinels that were resurrected by the Khan to fight you. In life, they fought against the Slayer and his friends during the Argenta Civil War.

[rocky brook]

I can't wait for the bosses

[fresh path]

Right.
They’re in that weird zone of being technically loyal to the Khan, but being made in Hell.

[placid saffron]

honestly, uncovering the existance of nekroval and finding out the makyr-demon deal would be a pretty badass story

[rocky brook]

And the difficulties

[drifting steppe]

I'm just trying to figure out what weapon takes on what roles. From 2016 to Eternal, we saw the new weapons that essentially worked the same way as the older ones. We got the SG, SSG, chaingun, rocket launcher, plasma cannon, assault rifle/heavy cannon, and BFG essentially unchanged, except for their mod addons.

[fresh path]

I assume they just stop worshipping her after the deal is broken from Eternal.

[hard thistle]

I'd love to see this happen in this story.

[hard thistle]

IIRC they weren't even made by Hell. I'd have to double check but I think the Khan just used Maykr tech.

[drifting steppe]

And since this is on the PS5, I want this to be a bigger game. More than 15 missions.

[hard thistle]

The Marauders are just helping out Hell. They aren't in their army or anything.

[vapid lodge]

im sure they went the extra mile guys... without the pandemic slowing them down, Hugo said they were able to do what they wanted before 2016

[placid saffron]

they reversed the divinity machine to make them i thought ir ead somewhere

[fresh path]

So they are not really technically demons.

[drifting steppe]

They're not mindless demons. They're sentient demons.

[hard thistle]

Correct. Marauders are not demons.

They have no affiliation with Hell beyond the Khan ordering them to help the horde.

[abstract bloom]

archviles are sentient

[fresh path]

I haven’t played Eternal in awhile.
Are they still in the Ancient Gods?

[glass schooner]

theyre corrupted resurected sentinels

[hard thistle]

Yeah, they are.

[hard thistle]

Yes

[vapid lodge]

i hope id software will not show the game as they did with markiplier... that destroyed my hype when i first saw the marauder and it was so amazing on first look

[fresh path]

Does that mean that they would have just been assimilated into Hell’s armies after the base game?

[pulsar agate]

looks like fallout 4 armor ngl

[hard thistle]

Potentially, or they're still serving the Khan's will after her death.

[drifting steppe]

But this time, it seems like the Skullcrusher is gonna be the spreadfire like the unmaykr, and the Nailgun is gonna be our ballista.

[pulsar agate]

we will see when the game releases

[hard thistle]

I'm talking about Eternal.

[pulsar agate]

ih

[vapid lodge]

goddamnit i hate to wait for this

[pulsar agate]

oh so why speaking of eternal in the dark ages channel 💀

[hard thistle]

Because the discussion was if Marauders will be in Dark Ages

[glass schooner]

i just want it to come out now but no i have to wait to early 2025

[drifting steppe]

This is probably a good time to remind and encourage everyone to, in the meantime, check out MiniDoom II. It's one of the best fanmade games I've ever played.

[pulsar agate]

prob mid 2025 and prob late 2025 too nobody knwos when it will come out

[livid root]

On App Store? Or is it on PC

[glass schooner]

acctually never heard of that might try that out

[drifting steppe]

Okay, links not allowed here. Um.... Can I DM you both?

[glass schooner]

sure

[pulsar agate]

doom guy is going melee in the dark ages

[fresh path]

Beating demons skulls in.

Kinda sad that Glory Kills might not be here.

[pulsar agate]

how come

[livid root]

I'm cool with that

[vapid lodge]

yeah its kinda weird, a lot of skulls everywhere... skull crusher weapon, skulls shooting from revenant, shooting from mancubi...

[fresh path]

I enjoyed watching little animations of them ripped to pieces.

[pulsar agate]

man i can't wait for the gameto release

[fresh path]

Same

[placid saffron]

i'm guessing it'll have a date on the DOOM anniversary, and then it will be delayed

[vapid lodge]

if they delay it again...

oh god

[fresh path]

If it does end up getting delayed, I hope it will benefit like with Eternal

[vapid lodge]

yeah fair nuff

[placid saffron]

wdym again. Also delays are just a matter of fact in the AAA gaming industry

[vapid lodge]

again, as in what they did with Eternal

[fresh path]

Sometimes though delays can be bad.

[crude hatch]

I would prefer a game is delayed then released in a poor state

[vapid lodge]

i can't handle that heartbreak, but i understand why they would delay it

yeah correct

[placid saffron]

there is a really easy way to handle it

[grim cloud]

eternal was mostly delayed due to music right?

[sonic turret]

We might get pre-Marauders.

[placid saffron]

just expect it to be delayed like almost every other game lmfao. Then you can only be pleasently surprised if it's released on time

[grim cloud]

but even then, there was a lot of last minute crunch

[placid saffron]

also, expect it to stink on release (again, like all other games)

[vapid lodge]

what do you mean stink on release?

[placid saffron]

with quite a few bugs on release and other issues

[vapid lodge]

Eternal was gold at release wtf?

[sonic turret]

Maybe but I'm not in a rush to play it, I'd rather not experience the same crashes that I had with Eternal.

[grim cloud]

Doom 2016: Piss Filter! Eternal: Too much color! Dark Ages: Too Dark!!!

[placid saffron]

yeah and DA isn't eternal. Different company that owns them too

[grim cloud]

so we calling it DA or TDA?

[sonic turret]

I call it TDA

But either is acceptable

[desert ferry]

Doom 6😈

[placid saffron]

DA in the context of doom, DtDA if i had to spell the full title so it's not confused with Dragon Age

[hard thistle]

new doom game hype

[sonic turret]

And I call the Dragon "Daisy". Fight me.

[placid saffron]

(it'll be the 7th game)

[livid root]

I think they mean like most other games released by big titles. Like Star Wars Battle Front or Call of Duty war Zone (I know of the delema but not of what games were examples of it)

[fresh path]

Doom 64 is the true Doom 3.

[vapid lodge]

something is either wrong with me or idk, what do you mean its a different company? wtf ??? its still id

[placid saffron]

yeah but ID's big overboss is still microsoft

[desert ferry]

I know but the numbering is kinda fucked because 64 came before 3

[sonic turret]

So you don't accept Final Doom as canon?

[vapid lodge]

ok fair

[fresh path]

Is Final Doom a WAD?

[sonic turret]

So it goes Microsoft > Zenimax > Bethesda > id Software right?

[placid saffron]

i think so

[desert orbit]

a

[placid saffron]

atleast there is a zenimax union it seems, but how much power they have no clue. Because unions are always so delightfully underrepresented in media

[sonic turret]

It was created by TNT but was released by id Software.

[fresh path]

So it must be.

[vapid lodge]

god what would it be to work for Hugo... i would so day dream

[sonic turret]

You could give him foot massages.

[vapid lodge]

yes please

https://tenor.com/view/pulp-gif-9895492765862501391

[sonic turret]

I mean I'd personally be picking his brain about the lore probably more so than I'd be on the inside of the game's build.

I love how Hugo seems to just make stuff up on the spot lol.

[vapid lodge]

i really wanna meet Hugo man, i met John Romero and i almost died. Best day ever

[sonic turret]

Or like he's guessing.

[sonic turret]

I had the Sigil tee signed by Romero but it came out in the washing machine.

Midnight met Hugo and Marty, he said he considers them as friends, but I'll bet they consider him as a means to get news of their game out lol.

[hard thistle]

Bethesda cooking up this new doom game if we have gameplay trailer THIS EARLY

[vapid lodge]

partially correct

[hard thistle]

Bethesda + ID really do make doom feel like doom even with new mechanics

[crude hatch]

I don’t think you want a guy who’s whole channel revolves around click bait be a way to advertise yourself lmao

[vapid lodge]

i replied to the UAC guy...

[placid saffron]

well the whole fanbase beliefs nonsense storiesabout the slayer so

[vapid lodge]

i know Hugo appreciates us and he stayed up at night on streams with so many people while playing doom

but Marty is a business man

[crude hatch]

Yeah, my point still stands it wouldn’t be the best idea to associate yourself with some like that, regardless of how moronic the community is

[placid saffron]

it wont ever be a controversy

[left ginkgo]

Boy what in the hell are y’all yapping about

[frigid ermine]

meeting hugo martin

[pale maple]

The slayer IS daisy

[mild topaz]

just to reassure... is this open world?

[placid saffron]

no clue, maybe the hugo interview said something but i didn't watch it yet

[sonic turret]

That's pretty much what it is and not only that, he just bases most of his content on what he sees in other people's videos. For Example, Acid Glow, Noclip, Rip n Tear, they'll put out a video and then Midnight will release a video on the exact same topic.

[mild topaz]

damn but, its a really good teaser for the game

[sonic turret]

I'm looking forward to seeing more if Hugo in the coming months. QuakeCon too.

[mild topaz]

I finished half the doom games, all I need now is 2016..... kinda goofy

[sonic turret]

Did you play Eternal before 2016?

[half dove]

I hope we get a Switch port The Dark Ages, given how good the Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal ports were (/j)

[stable citrus]

so, when does doom the dark ages take place and time in?

i couldnt understand

[placid saffron]

depends on how much of the doomlore you know

(mostly) after the divinity machine and (mostly) before the betrayel of the makyrs was made clear if you know about those

[stable citrus]

ohhhh ok ty

and yes i know about those

[sonic turret]

@warm ibex i totally didn't even notice the mace and the kick in the new trailer until you mentioned it in your video.

But where did you get he lore information for your lates video?

[hard thistle]

What was the lore info mentioned? I'm at work, so I can't watch any videos.

[warm ibex]

Everything from today's video comes from the Gamespot interview with Hugo and Marty and the Slayer's Club

[sonic turret]

Vile forces push a kingdom to the brink...etc

[warm ibex]

Can't believe I'm talking to THE Union Aerospace Corporation

[hard thistle]

Oh, right, yeah.

Union Aerospace Corporation when I invite the official OSHA Discord account:

[sonic turret]

Regarding the soundtrack, @pine terrace friend ran the music through some tech and he believes that it's probably not Andrew Holshut's work.

[sonic turret]

I'd been playing Doom for years before I realised that it was UAC and not VAC.

[sonic turret]

The Occupational Safety and Health Administration?

[hard thistle]

Yes

[sonic turret]

Is it bad that i had to Google that?

[hard thistle]

No, that'd be about in character for the UAC.

[sonic turret]

I just wanted a screen name that was Doom related.

Even though the UAC probably won't be playing a huge part in the next game.

[glass schooner]

Horde delivering a banger Video like always

[sonic turret]

Yeah, it was the first time I'd seen his videos but it popped up in my algorithm.

[warm ibex]

I don't know if we should trust a tech program to accurately analyze a few short music clips that have sound effects played over them lol

[terse herald]

DARK AGES DOESNT HAVE GLORY KILLS?!

[compact ice]

Are you excited for the new Doom? That trailer was of very good quality

[glass schooner]

I watch him for quite a while

[sonic turret]

I always check the YouTubers name so I don't end up opening Midnight's videos by mistake.

[warm ibex]

As of now, it seems like it has a revamped glory kill system. You'll have more freedom than before (according to hugo)

[terse herald]

ooh

nice

[warm ibex]

Thank you very much!

[sonic turret]

I mean I can take or leave Glory Kills, but it'd be nice if they made it more organic.

[glass schooner]

Your fr my Nr.1 Doom news source I appreciate the input of your vids

[warm ibex]

And I appreciate the kind words! I try to keep everyone updated

[terse basin]

Who’s ready for the new game

[drifting steppe]

I mean, aren't glory kills melee-based anyway?

I'm just gonna assume they haven't added the orange flashing thing yet.

[sour flare]

am so hyped for that skull shredding/crushing weapon

[terse basin]

am I allowed to swear in doom discord?

[hard thistle]

Yes

[drifting steppe]

Skullcrusher. That's its official name.

[sonic turret]

Pretty much. I felt that the flashing wasn't organic, unless it's something to do with his helmet giving feedback, but I use the barbarian skin.

[sonic turret]

That looks cool.

[hard thistle]

Yeah but Glory Kills are finishers. In the trailer we see the Slayer use melee moves that aren't finishers.

[drifting steppe]

Yeah, so basically, the orange flashing is swapped out for the parry indicator.

[terse basin]

Oh I looked in the readme and it says no swearing so I can’t

[sonic turret]

Yes, just nothing "phobic".

[glass schooner]

Keep up the work man content is🔥

[drifting steppe]

It's a finisher for lower-ranking enemies. Like a single morningstar-flail-chainmace thingy attack killed the demon mounted on the beast demon.

[sour flare]

nice

[sonic turret]

Oh, never seen the readme. Speaks volumes.

[sour flare]

is there any small prediction of the price of the game? its probably not like a call of duty 70 bucks shi

[drifting steppe]

Y'all should check out the recent Gamespot interview with Hugo Martin. He goes more into depth. He said the glory kills weren't something they could go into detail yet. So they're cooking something different, seemingly.

[sonic turret]

Good question. I'd imagine there will be a special edition too, with a statuette of the Slayer with his cloak, next to Daisy the Dragon.

[glass schooner]

I already said fuck and several more critical stuff and nothing happend so shouldn’t be a problem

[sour flare]

im down to spend highest 50 on it

[drifting steppe]

$59.99 seems to be the average price for a AAA console game.

[sour flare]

i mean its a great game for sure but i got stuff like the classic games, 2016 and eternal free on ps plus

[sonic turret]

I've got a ton of games that I need to trade in before PS4 games go out of fashion, so I can set that money aside.

[brittle zinc]

Doom slayer???

I'm a big fan

[sour flare]

i really do hope tho it comes on ps4 maybe, i cant afford a ps5 right now

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[glass schooner]

40-60 €/$ seems quite legit

[sonic turret]

I love the Dark Ages colour palette.

[sour flare]

yea, medieval style for a demon slashing game is quite a exotic approach but it will probably work

the trailer looked absolutely stunning tho, like the part where he blasted of a part of the i assume mancubus' stomach

[drifting steppe]

I just call it the Game of Thrones color palette. Everything is muddy and dirty. Barf green and toilet brown.

[sonic turret]

Eternal was quite colourful, perhaps they've gone back to an earlier style.

[sonic turret]

It reminds me of that one part towards the end of the Kadingir Sanctum where the colour tone suddenly shifts.

[glass schooner]

Eternal looked a little cartoonish tbh but not in a bad way

[drifting steppe]

To be fair, most of the flashy colors weren't really from the environment, only the highlighted pickups. i.e. the health, armor and ammunition.

[sonic turret]

Yeah, a lot of people didn't like the coloured pickups, but there were a lot more different types of environment that 2016, so they required a larger range of the pours.

[drifting steppe]

You're chainsawing a whole rainbow out of imps.

[glass schooner]

True almost forgot about that

[sour flare]

we still need to realize that it never changed in the way it plays, doom 1993 had basic ammo pickups on the ground and it still is present in eternal, i hope it stays the way

[sonic turret]

Only to shoot them straight back into their distant cousins.

[drifting steppe]

Though, I will say, I hope the game has some accessibility features, like mainly color-coding for the colorblind and some gun stability.

[sour flare]

maybe we can now get ammo by sawing demons with that shield saw

[sonic turret]

Decapitate them and then use them for the Skull Crusher.

[drifting steppe]

Funnily enough, the dot crosshair helped me out a GREAT deal when playing compared to the customized crosshairs for the weapons.

[sour flare]

i hope they add possibilities for a higher sensitivity on console, on eternal 100 is the maximum and i cant really balista boost since you need to turn so fast

[glass schooner]

A cool detail I noticed is that the shield flies through fodder enemies and comes back but when he hits bigger enemies like revenant in the trailer it gets stuck in him

[drifting steppe]

Ehhhh, I dunno. The game cut away before we could see it return.

[sour flare]

fat shaming on heavy demons😂

[glass schooner]

It is what it is

[vapid lodge]

Demon is an offensive term, refer to them as mortally challenged

[sonic turret]

Yeah, you might have to dig it out of the mancubuses

[glass schooner]

Look closely im sure it gets stuck or im just blind

[drifting steppe]

I am a bit concerned about equipment. We have no shoulder launcher. Will we get grenades? Do we have to start manually throwing them again? (Please God no.)

[sonic turret]

Maybe it goes through him.

[glass schooner]

Good luck doing that

[sour flare]

im sorry please dont awake the icon of sin on me for this

[drifting steppe]

I hope the shieldsaw also works as a launcher.

[sonic turret]

I think we'll get the Dreadnought this time around.

[glass schooner]

I think it’ll be just like in eternal that feature is just to good to be thrown away

[sour flare]

guys whats the strongest enemy you could beat in a fight

[drifting steppe]

The dash has been replaced with shield-ramming and groundslams, so that's cool.

[vapid lodge]

I can imagine a woke demon...

Demon: What? You think im a demon? My father will hear about this. calls Davoth

[sonic turret]

Mike Tyson

I'd kick him in the crown jewels.

[sour flare]

i meant from the doom codex

[drifting steppe]

I know they said they wanted to keep the openness to make you grounded, but Lord, I ADORED the verticality of Eternal's combat, I hope they don't get rid of that, cuz that's gonna be a huge downgrade.

[sour flare]

tho tyson is probably in there somewhere, i just dont read the codex

[drifting steppe]

Not saying I want double-jumps, but at least give me platforms.

[glass schooner]

Mike would fit in the codex

[sonic turret]

Imp. By he way, I love how they have the classic Doom imp in the new trailer.

[sonic turret]

Maybe there will be, I mean there was a bit of running and jumping across gaps even in classic Doom. Chronologically he might not have his double jump upgrade that existed in 2016 yet though.

[drifting steppe]

The revenant looks like a bootleg summoner.

[sour flare]

id probably say that too, i mean soldiers are somehow human but i cant fight a gun

[drifting steppe]

And what about elemental damage? Will we get those back?

[glass schooner]

I like the new corrupted sentinel look on the normal enemies fits the theme more well

[drifting steppe]

Or will they replace that with environmental traps? Like, I dunno explosive barrels or giant coolant cells.

[void notch]

i am so excited for this game

[sonic turret]

Someone needs to Tweet Ed Boon and get the new Slayer as an MK1 DLC in the next kombat pack.

[glass schooner]

You can see explosive barrels in trailer so maybe

[vapid lodge]

Question is, which slayer? Dark ages or eternal ? one with hand blade and one with shield...

[sour flare]

ye, i mean a year is long to wait but we get a new doom game before gta VI so im not complaining in the slightest

[sonic turret]

The red ones?

[primal storm]

kratos slayer

[sonic turret]

I mean we don't know which point in 2025 it'll drop and there may be delays.

[glass schooner]

Yea

[sour flare]

idk if the possibility is there but if they can get mick gordon on most of the music again i would love it

[glass schooner]

Heard march to may is possible cause the other games got released in that time span

[winter idol]

Not possible

[sour flare]

damn, why tho

[drifting steppe]

Ya know what I haven't seen yet but really want to? Ice-based demons. We've gotten electric, ballistic, fiery, energy-based and acid-based demons. Now gimme an ice-based one.

[winter idol]

Cause they had a falling out

[sour flare]

oof

[sonic turret]

Yeah, I got Eternal on the first day it released, which was the first day of covid lockdown

[drifting steppe]

Poetic.

[glass schooner]

There would be so many cool designs

[sonic turret]

Because Mick abandoned us.

[sour flare]

i mean then i hope they still can have david and andrew on the ost

[vapid lodge]

had to buy Eternal digital edition on 1st day because the collector edition was delayed a week

[sour flare]

cuz the dlc music was epic too

[sonic turret]

Mick was nothing but a usurper, he was never one of us.

[vapid lodge]

but i bought Eternal on every platform lol

[winter idol]

David isnt coming back, but andrew is

[sonic turret]

Ah, I'd have waited personally. My hard copy arrived a day before release.

[vapid lodge]

How do you know about Andrew?

I know David posted on X

[winter idol]

I believe he posted about it on twitter

[vapid lodge]

I looked around and I couldnt find anything

[glass schooner]

Then let’s bring back Covid to launch the game early and have time to play cause that is how it works (it doesn’t work like that obviously)

[hard thistle]

I'm gonna be honest with you guys. It's me. I'm doing the new soundtrack.

It'll be terrible. Thank you.

[vapid lodge]

Terrible as Alex ?

[drifting steppe]

I have a pitch for it. I call it the Hailspawn... or Frostbite... or maybe Diamondback. It moves like a whiplash, and it has wings like the gargoyle.

It's the one demon impervious to ice bombs, obviously, but the catch is that it can be faltered a by a flame belch. You can melt its icy armor that way. Its attacks include ice needles, which could hurt (and maybe if done right, stun) you. It also uses a sorta ranged attack like the tyrant where it shoots projectiles up in the air and rain down at marked spots which you need to run away from. These would be deadly in a big fight, especially if you're being also rushed by a baron or a pinky. Oh and it uses its wings to fly and rush you with its bite.

OH, and when it dies, it explodes icicles everywhere unless you melee-kill it, in which case, the explosion freezes every other demon in proximity.

I got the idea from the Valkyrie fights in God of War, where they throw metal feathers and rush you from the air.

[sonic turret]

The fact that it was the first day of lockdown was incidental, but it gave me time to get into it, rather than having to play around work.

[glass schooner]

That’s a hell of a idea I like it

[drifting steppe]

I'd like to think it has a more serpentine body, but its skin and back look like Shimo, the kaiju from Godzilla x Kong.

[glass schooner]

I’d love that as a concept art maybe if you can draw you can try it

[sour flare]

i had somehow the idea to hear slaughter to prevail on the soundtrack

[drifting steppe]

Think of it as Shimo without limbs, slimmer, and with wings.

[sour flare]

i mean their riffs are heavy so i wouldn't complain

[vapid lodge]

im ok with his voices but not as in game ost

i prefer the negative while im fighting

[sour flare]

nono i meant only instrumentals, cuz we never had voices in doom osts, except the heavy choirs but thats pretty much not very present

[glass schooner]

I think I know where you going

[vapid lodge]

the choirs are extremely welcome, but yes you are right

[sour flare]

thats why i liked that andrew did also a choir in one of his super heavy fighting osts

[grim cloud]

the slayers club really needs to create a bestiary for the new doom games. Codex entries, maybe some new lore. That would be some great promotional material

[drifting steppe]

The other thing is that I wanna explore more of Hell's geography.

We've gotten the Kadingir Sactum, and Nekravol. Classic fire and brimstone.

You got Titan's Realm, and Necropolis, making you feel like you're going through a crypt or a complex sewer system.

You have the Blood Swamps, the first marshland area in Hell.

You have Immora. The Metropolis of Hell.

I want some new kinda decadent hellscape.

[vapid lodge]

but Mick's "genre" fits like a glove in DOOM and I dont know if anybody can reach his level.

I know that David and Andrew are amazing but they were told to NOT copy Mick when working on TAG1 and 2

So I wonder how would it sound if someone tried to recreate Mick's style

[sonic turret]

https://tenor.com/view/doomsong-gif-9317219

[vapid lodge]

you will get what you want, they want to expand DOOM universe

[glass schooner]

A icy landscape built out of big ice spikes coming out of the ground or even out of the sky fitting the ice demon

[sonic turret]

It's gonna sound very different from MGs stuff, less industrial this time around.

[drifting steppe]

Give me dense Amazonian jungles. Or or or open flat sandy deserts.

[sour flare]

its sad that im probably still not gonna read it🥲

[drifting steppe]

Now you're catching on!

[grim cloud]

your point?

[drifting steppe]

"Hell FREEZES ovah!" - Mr. Freeze

We got some extent of it thanks to the Cultist Base, but that was still on Earth. Give me icy Jekkad.

[vapid lodge]

am i the only one who got a small Serious Sam feeling when watching the big battlefields in the trailer?

[sour flare]

idk im probably to lazy

[pseudo notch]

More of a Painkiller feeling

[livid root]

I find it interesting that it's on Earth. You can see Ruins in the background/floor level of it which made me think of it as a Former Sentinel settlement

[shrewd zinc]

Does anyone know how much the dark ages is gonna be??

[livid root]

Is there time looping in Doom? I need to play the rest of the games lmao

[sour flare]

damn im so bad, how can i die at culstist base

[winter idol]

70 USD is the standard

[shrewd zinc]

😦

[outer quiver]

BY THE UBISOFT FUCKERS AND NINTENDO SHITFUCKERS, I DEMAND 60$ IS A STANDARD!

[pseudo notch]

I'm going to kill myself

And I will make all of you watch

[outer quiver]

Every thing above 60$ is just bloated by devs from shitty AAA low-tier conveyers saying "the development start to cost more"

[dark eagle]

nowadays games are above 60/70 dollars for no reason

[winter idol]

Dont blame devs

[dark eagle]

steam sales >>>>

[outer quiver]

I blame ubisoft

[winter idol]

If a game is worth 70 bucks i will buy it

[hard thistle]

No.

[winter idol]

Blame all the companies, its their decision to follow trends at the end of the day

[outer quiver]

How would you calculate the value of it then?

[hard thistle]

I have not played a game that is worth $70 ever.

[winter idol]

If i want it or not? Pretty simple

[livid root]

$70 is usually just for physical copies

[winter idol]

No thats digital too

[stray hatch]

Is it me or did i just notice classic looking imps in the trailer

[shrewd zinc]

Not even eternal? Or dark ages?

[livid root]

What?

[shrewd zinc]

Yea they’re back

[outer quiver]

Same, but i payed that much for darktide, what a mistake, that was the last preorder i made in my life

[livid root]

Eternal is like 21 dollers as a digital copy idk about physical

[winter idol]

Digital versions of games cost 70 as well as physical

[hard thistle]

I can't judge Dark Ages, but no, I do not believe the base game Eternal is worth $70. I only barely would play $60 for it. Games are fucking expensive.

[winter idol]

Thats cause the price dropped, cod BO2 is still 60 bucks on steam

[shrewd zinc]

Bethesda is the least corrupted publisher, idk how it is as a studio tho (didn’t meant to reply mb)

[livid root]

I have never encountered that. Maybe Nintendo E shops different or smt. Although I usually look at the lower price ranges for stuff tho so I could be wrong

[stray hatch]

Hahahahha, thats awesome

[shrewd zinc]

But idk why they look so weird

[winter idol]

Look at new big games on steam, they are almost always 70

[shrewd zinc]

They kinda look stiff or sum

[livid root]

I know Kirby games are significantly cheaper digitally than physical copies

[winter idol]

Those are older games bro

[slender night]

Isn't it 40? The Deluxe version is 60.

[winter idol]

It was 60 at launch

[hard thistle]

It was $60 on release.

[winter idol]

We are talking about on launch

[slender night]

Oh okay. Didn't know that.

[shrewd zinc]

I scammed Bethesda and got everything for 30 💪💪💪

[neon gust]

Man I'm also mad about 70 dollars being the industry standard

[stray hatch]

Imagine id they use the sprite animations again

[grim cloud]

games have gone up recently. 79.99

with early access for collectors 99.99

[neon gust]

Some companies (I'm thinking SEGA here) are absolutely milking that price and beyond

[shrewd zinc]

I bought the year one pass and got the base game for free somehow

[grim cloud]

and the super deluxe version for 129.99

[hard thistle]

Hahahahahah if they try selling me a fucking game for $80 I'm gonna beat them with hammers.

[winter idol]

Space marine 2 is 60 bucks still which is cool

[grim cloud]

i remember when NES games were 50-60 bucks, taht was how many years ago? with the fraction of the content today

[neon gust]

thankfully Nintendo games are still 60 bucks for most of them

[slender night]

Yeah but they're ALL 60 bucks. No less.

Even old rereleases are sitting at the 60 price mark last time I checked.

[grim cloud]

nintendo 64 games were like 70 bucks for a while

[neon gust]

Depends on the games. For their brand new titles? Yeah it's definitely 60 bucks and some aren't worth that much

[shrewd zinc]

Guys how much did you pay for the entirety of eternal + TAG?

[agile osprey]

full price

[livid root]

Na man you're right. I was gonna use Kirby Returns to Dream Land Deluxe Edition as an example (cause I coulda swore it was cheaper digital than physical). Double checked the prices and the prices are literally the same regardless of copy. Literally 60 bucks wtf

[neon gust]

60

[shrewd zinc]

And what do you play on?

[delicate grotto]

$60 for the base game and $30 for both DLCs. So $90 in total

[neon gust]

Credit where credit is due, this remake's everything a remake could hope to achieve

[neon gust]

I play on PC

[slender night]

If I had to whip up a new copy of Eternal for a new platform, for it to feel complete it'd have to be the deluxe edition (for TAG) and the Rip and Tear pack. That's like 70, or 65.

[livid root]

I've heard it's really good. Really interested in it lol

[delicate grotto]

Given how much I’ve played the game, and the fact I’ve gone back to it to play it again, price was well worth it

[shrewd zinc]

I somehow got the full game + TAG for $30

[delicate grotto]

Sweet

[livid root]

You can get both Ancient gods for 30 bucks on switch. There was a fire sale back in April that reduced Eternal (and the entire series, aside from the DLC's) to the price of Eternal without the sale

[winter idol]

During sales, doom 2016 is 5 bucks lmao

[delicate grotto]

Actually now that I think about it, pretty sure I bought the deluxe edition. Forgot how much that was

[vapid lodge]

i bought it on all platforms, twice on pc, twice on ps4/ps5, once on xbox and twice on nintendo

Lmao

[livid root]

I got Doom Eternal for like 7 bucks

[shrewd zinc]

The thing is I got it on Xbox not switch

[paper umbra]

i just saw the trailer

[tulip canyon]

https://youtu.be/5n4pQQm7NYQ?si=H2TuAl83weIltDQf

[shrewd zinc]

Is that even possible

[delicate grotto]

Pretty sick yeah

[livid root]

It was like 80-90% off

[paper umbra]

new slayer suit looks awesome

[sonic turret]

I think I paid £10 GBP for my hard copy, but I was late to the party.

[livid root]

Like not even joking

[vapid lodge]

CAN'T WAIT to cosplay it !

[neon gust]

I've played it myself and it felt great to dive back in one of my favorite games of all time with about 30% more content and a visual overhaul

[lunar cedar]

THE TRAILER LOOKS AMAZING

[livid root]

So many things were 99% off

[sonic turret]

I bought the Slayer Collection for about £15.

[shrewd zinc]

Is that you in your pfp?

[slender night]

Speaking of deals, DOOM 3: BFG Edition on Xbox 360 is a fantastic deal, and is relatively cheap nowadays.

[neon gust]

It has not even been a week what is bro waffling about

[paper umbra]

i would but it is gonna be way too expensive😭

[delicate grotto]

Pretty much every Doom game goes on sale like, at least 3x a year

[vapid lodge]

yes

[lunar cedar]

i was so happy with how it looked wtf

[vapid lodge]

not very

[shrewd zinc]

Dude you look fuckin awesome

[reef walrus]

I wonder if the Super Shotgun will be akin to the BFG & Crucible? It absolutely decimated that Mancubus & Hell Knight. But at the same time, it's so synonymous with the Slayer, so it ought to be used frequently, right?

[winter idol]

Next doom sale should be during quake con in august, expect prices to be extremely low

[keen meadow]

Morning everyone

[shrewd zinc]

I will murder you

[vapid lodge]

full pic, me in cosplay
https://imgur.com/a/JpTbUhI

[slender night]

Wonder if the next QuakeCon will pull up a Quake III/4 remaster. Going off-topic though.

[lunar cedar]

will there be more quick weapon swapping and stuff

[keen meadow]

Not again-

[livid root]

Break out the Super shotgun and Chain Gun lmao

[winter idol]

Looks like quick swapping is not the focus of this game

[shrewd zinc]

I am

[paper umbra]

im so damn excited to use that shield

[grim cloud]

Quake 4 maybe, but i bet they do Hexen/Heretic first

[neon gust]

no way it's the real Baron of Hell from Doom Eternal

[keen meadow]

Yes that is I

[sonic turret]

I'm hoping for Q4.

[shrewd zinc]

Ice bomb + unmaykyr + super shotgun + blood punch + super shotgun

[paper umbra]

you made me lose an ultra nightmare run

[lunar cedar]

i think there was still that element of using loads of different weapons in the trailer

[slender night]

Could happen, but with Heretic II's licensing dilemma and the fact the Quake userbase is way larger, I expect them to wrap up Quake first.

[keen meadow]

I remember

[delicate grotto]

I wonder that too. Hugo said that the Skullcrusher is going to decimate enemies like we saw in the trailer. Given that bit of info, the SSG might perform like it’s shown in the trailer too. So it’s possible it becomes a super weapon, but I hope not.

[slender night]

Yeah, especially since Q3A is already remastered.

[livid root]

How hot can your flesh get. Depending on the damage you take?

[sonic turret]

The Baron of Hell was in all Doom games.

[grim cloud]

skip heretic 2, that was not first person right?

[lunar cedar]

also what was that cool asf weapon with the skull omg

[winter idol]

Well yea theres going to be lots of weapons, but i doubt fast combos will make a return. They said they are completely reworking the combat from the ground up

[slender night]

It wasn't, but skipping it is lame, especially in a series with so little games.

[keen meadow]

It gets hot enough to melt steel

[neon gust]

I know but look at his pfp and tell me that's Classic Doom bro

[winter idol]

Skull crusher, looks like its for large crowds of fodder

[grim cloud]

Hugo said to look at the Armored baron as a taste of whats to come

[sonic turret]

Yeah, I dunno what the were thinking with Heretic 2, but they could always add a toggle to FP.

[lunar cedar]

thank goodness im getting worse at doom anyways

[shrewd zinc]

The SSG won’t become a super weapon, the mancubus didn’t die it host lost a weak point similar to eternal

[reef walrus]

Dope cosplay

[grim cloud]

enemies with layers you break off for new weakpoints mixingt in melee and ranged attacks

[paper umbra]

cant wait to use that against some old timey demons

[shrewd zinc]

• the animations are prob slower in the trailer

[winter idol]

Armored baron?

[pseudo notch]

It's probably going to be the starting weapon this time

[vapid lodge]

Also me here, I ripped and tore cardboard demons at Comic Con contest. Hugo said "this ... is fantastic" in one of the comments on Facebook
https://imgur.com/a/pag70h2

[grim cloud]

tag2 super heavy

[hard thistle]

It lost half its body lol.

[shrewd zinc]

Yea

[winter idol]

Ah right that guy

[delicate grotto]

I hope the incentive to quick swap is still there, but with what we’ve been hearing, seems unlikely

[keen meadow]

Ancient gods part 2

[winter idol]

Im glad quick swapping is gone

[shrewd zinc]

Yea, it does that in eternal too, it just doesn’t get stunned

[sonic turret]

From TAG2?

[grim cloud]

ye

[keen meadow]

Fun fact when TAG2 was first released the second time you encounter the armored baron it was possesed

[shrewd zinc]

I will Ice bomb + unmaykyr + super shotgun + blood punch + super shotgun you

[pearl sky]

unmaykyr is overkill

[slender night]

Unmaykr's a bit overkill

[delicate grotto]

I can understand why some people dislike it. Eternal may have overtuned the idea but I’d still like there to be a reason to swap weapons consistently.

[winter idol]

They should keep the barons look exactly the same in dark ages but make it green

Just keep changing its color every game

[shrewd zinc]

Real

[grim cloud]

best thing about TDA? No fucking spirits

[shrewd zinc]

OML.

[slender night]

You couldn't do that in any game anyway

[vapid lodge]

i really love the extremely detailed demons

[winter idol]

It got boring after a while, i just play like 2016 in eternal now

[keen meadow]

Correct. fuck Hayden’s boss fight.

[shrewd zinc]

I SUFFERED SO MUCH BECAUSE OF YHAT ONE POSSESED MANCUBUS

[grim cloud]

Barons and Hell Knights bleed green, i need that modded in for the other games

[paper umbra]

i hope theres nothing like blood maykrs (whatever they are) i hated them

[winter idol]

I dont want spirits, stone imps, blood angels

[delicate grotto]

It can get boring when the same swap combo works for pretty much any demon, yeah.

[sonic turret]

I'm hoping to see the Unmaykr in DA.

[grim cloud]

blood angels woudnt exist yet

[shrewd zinc]

Real

[shrewd zinc]

Pretty sure they would

[vapid lodge]

by the way guys, dont forget to play on nightmare difficulty from the START

[grim cloud]

we might see summoners and archviles

[hard thistle]

I like Blood Maykrs.

[delicate grotto]

Obviously

[shrewd zinc]

I did ultra violence please forgive me🙏🙏

[paper umbra]

spirits and blood angels make me wanna kms, imps are annoying as hell too but they arent THAT bad

[grim cloud]

blood maykrs were the result of hell taking over Urdak

[keen meadow]

I think the unmayker was created during that time skip between 2016 and eternal

[sonic turret]

Not in this realm they wouldn't. Maybe in Urdak.

[sour flower]

Need references for the new Slayer suit for cosplay reasons

[shrewd zinc]

Oh then nvm

[winter idol]

Blood angels are the anthesis of fun imo, sit and wait for its single weak point to open up

[remote thunder]

quickswappng was even more busted in 2016 though

[delicate grotto]

Maybe Nightmare in TDA will be similar to the classics. Endless and random lol

[sonic turret]

The Unmaykr was in Doom 64.

[shrewd zinc]

Rocket launcher + SSG

[keen meadow]

Oh shit my bad

[sonic turret]

It's likely it was taken from him when he arrived in Argenta.

[winter idol]

Yea but the game isnt built in a way where its necessary

[paper umbra]

i still havent beaten doom 3 its too hard 😭

[shrewd zinc]

What are your opinions on doom guy

[sonic turret]

Nah, you'll get there

[slender night]

DOOM 3 is plenty addicting, get hooked and the victory is yours.

[keen meadow]

Eternal for me it didn’t seem like quick swapping was necessary

[shrewd zinc]

The second I stop being addicted to eternal I get bad

[winter idol]

It gets necessary in the dlcs

[sonic turret]

I mean he's a trained marine, so even before training as a Knight Sentinel, he was already a battle hardened warhorse.

[slender night]

Marauders are easy with quickswapping, it's useful.

[shrewd zinc]

Especial sentinel hammer

[sonic turret]

I've never quick swapped, I'm not that good, although I think the Davoth fight requires some finger dexterity.

[keen meadow]

I barely used it in the DLCs, I mean I was on console so it was hard as hell to do

[paper umbra]

ima kms if i see the archvile again

[shrewd zinc]

I hate the archduke

[slender night]

I love the archvile.

[shrewd zinc]

Y

[sonic turret]

Arch vile? In Doom 3.

[keen meadow]

My new favorite nickname for the archvile

[slender night]

One of the most unique demons in the series, and it gives up a pretty good challenge.

[paper umbra]

bonk hammer >>>>slashy boy

[grim cloud]

i bet the pain elemental is more like the 64 one. but i hope we get both because i like more demons

[shrewd zinc]

I MEANT ARCHVILE😭😭

[sonic turret]

I call him Archibald.

[shrewd zinc]

HELP ME

[keen meadow]

ARCHIBALD

[paper umbra]

i call pain elementals and cacodemons mystical meatballs

[grim cloud]

i also hope Lost Souls are more like enemies like in classic, and less like kamikazi projectiles since

[shrewd zinc]

TELL ARCHIBALD TO LET ME BEAT TAG2 😭😭

[sonic turret]

I find the Eternal version the easiest ngl.

[fresh path]

Are the squid looking things the new Cacodemons?

[grim cloud]

like they should charge you and heat seek, but if you hit them, they stop, and have 100 hp

[paper umbra]

@fresh path we dont mean to offend you but archviles are stinky

[keen meadow]

Ice bomb five sticky bombs and two lock on bursts from the rocket launcher

[grim cloud]

i hope not

[sonic turret]

They look like something I saw in some artwork on the Lovecraft Facebook group.

[shrewd zinc]

THX I won’t Ice bomb + unmaykyr + super shotgun + blood punch + super shotgun you anymore🙏🙏

[keen meadow]

It isn’t a guarantee so add two frags for good measure

[fresh path]

They got that chad chin though.

[grim cloud]

they might be Arachnorbs. Which is a fan monster

[delicate grotto]

That’d be pretty cool

[paper umbra]

idk what the dragon thing is in the end of the trailer but it is awesome

[pale maple]

Play ancient gods 2

[iron stirrup]

pretty sure your right to many similarities.

[keen meadow]

That’s what I thought too

[fresh path]

Probably a Wintherin.

[sonic turret]

That's Daisy the Dragon.

[paper umbra]

i havent played in a while okay

[keen meadow]

SHES BACK

[sonic turret]

A what?

[pale maple]

Do it. RIGHT NOW

[fresh path]

That’s what they call the dragons.

[paper umbra]

daisy the bunny grew up?

[fresh path]

From Ancient Gods Part 2

[sonic turret]

I read that in Arnolds voice in Predator.

[paper umbra]

im not home right now

[fresh path]

Maybe we’ll actually get to fight them here.

[sonic turret]

Yeah, evolved like a Pokemon.

[keen meadow]

read this in emporer palpatine voice

[pale maple]

Dewit

[sonic turret]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-now-gif-8259067036335066552

[keen meadow]

DEWIT

[paper umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-get-to-work-gif-21630516

[pale maple]

I'm tryna send a gif but it won't work

[keen meadow]

You gotta have nitro to use animated emojis?!

https://tenor.com/view/hacker-pc-meme-matrix-codes-gif-16730883

[paper umbra]

who actually buys discord nitro?

[sonic turret]

Not I.

[fresh path]

Not I.

[keen meadow]

Me hacking Bethesda studios to release dark ages early

[pearl sky]

when do we think it will release?

[paper umbra]

2025

[pearl sky]

i personally think may

[fresh path]

Sometime in 2025.

[keen meadow]

Anything later than June if 2025 and I’m raiding Bethesda studios

[paper umbra]

it better be january 1st 2025

better yet, june 12 2024

[pearl sky]

i think may or june idk why its just a gut feeling

[small helm]

https://tenor.com/view/xbox-doom-doomguy-doom-dark-ages-doom-the-dark-ages-gif-15105789491321349408

I can’t wait for this fight

[paper umbra]

already gifs for dark ages?

[fresh path]

Atlan my beloved.

[vapid lodge]

imagine saying again: launch tomorrow

[small helm]

Yeah search “doom the dark ages”

[keen meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-slayer-mace-kick-gif-16830182387456908014

[paper umbra]

i saw the trailer like 20 min ago

[keen meadow]

Doin this to a doom hunter

[small helm]

Bro piloting the mech is gonna be awesome

[paper umbra]

doom hunter was the easiest boss, always was easy

[small helm]

Dude I can’t wait for the game

[keen meadow]

Don’t care still beating the shit out of it with a mace

[paper umbra]

real

[small helm]

Enraged + screech buffed marauders are annoying

[keen meadow]

the what

[slender night]

Enraged?

[paper umbra]

i rlly wish when the 4th of july event eventually rolls around the shield is gonna have a captain america design

[sonic turret]

We'll have Samurai Maykr being all nice, pretending to be our friend and we'll be like "I see you". 🤨

[small helm]

Imagine totem + screech buffed marauders

[slender night]

Ah, yes, Samurai Maykr.

[small helm]

This would be a hella cool doomslayer skin if done right

[fresh path]

He didn’t do a very good job coming up with a new identity.

[sonic turret]

Yup, he gives us our Samurai armour.

[keen meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-doomguy-doom-slayer-doom-guy-shotgun-gif-27413588

[paper umbra]

honestly im gonna flip if theres no water gun skin for my minigun

[keen meadow]

In eternal there’s a new one

[near vector]

A deathmatch mode would be greatly appreciated.

[mortal ibex]

Still no word on multiplayer 😦
Im all for the campaign but multiplayer would be sucha nice thing, like long term ya know.

[small helm]

Bro Istg I have ptsd from the marauder and screeched place thing in immora

[paper umbra]

wait wdym

[vital ravine]

can we get doomguy jiggle physics plz devs

[keen meadow]

Log onto eternal they made a water gun skin for the chain gun

[paper umbra]

there should be slayer 3v3s where its just chaos

[paper umbra]

i have it-

[mortal ibex]

Im all for that tbh

[sonic turret]

Traditionally, Doom has always been a campaign game first, unlike many other IPs which are multiplayer and just incidentally happen to have a single player mode.

[keen meadow]

so you have your water gun.

[paper umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-guy-twerk-gif-25604234

[sonic turret]

But it'll come.

[keen meadow]

SLAYER WHAT THE FU-

[paper umbra]

i need it in dark ages though

[vital ravine]

i can see that actually work cause it looks like this games gonna be more grounded so no more double jump or dash ☹️

[sonic turret]

A lot of people are probably hoping for Snap Map too.

[mortal ibex]

I get that but Doom multiplayer is originaly an iconic thing

[small helm]

Bro a doomslayer samurai skin would be hella dope in this game

It just fits the theme imo

[vital ravine]

naked doomslayer skin plz

[paper umbra]

what the fuck

[sonic turret]

It is, bit id are always trying to find he balance, as it's always been.

[mortal ibex]

I would prefer mod tools, one can always dream

[small helm]

I mean there’s the barbarian skins in eternal?

[keen meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-doomguy-doom-slayer-doom-guy-shotgun-gif-27413588

[paper umbra]

the hotdog mancubus skin in doom eternal is the best

[sonic turret]

https://tenor.com/view/conan-crush-the-enemies-gif-7843773

[winter idol]

Dont really know if they will do a cosmetic system again

[misty beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/skibidi-toilet-gif-2096158443957078234

needs a skibidi toilet skin

[buoyant jolt]

Cosmetics = $$

[terse herald]

I LVOE COSMETIC SYSTEM ITS THE BEST THING EVER

[misty beacon]

ma good.. someone like actually boot me for saying that...

[shrewd zinc]

Im back

:3

[empty estuary]

Hey guys, couple questions. Is it just me or does the gameplay looks slower than Doom Eternal? Also, any mention on the double barrel grappling hook??

[jagged terrace]

they mentioned it would be slower, they don’t want it to be as fast as eternal

[knotty pendant]

prolly just how the devs have played it

[frosty spear]

I’m kind of glad they’re taking DOOM back to its roots in terms of gameplay

[knotty pendant]

true

[delicate grotto]

On top of that, we haven’t seen any true gameplay. Much like the last 2 Dooms, the trailers look slower than they play.

[frosty spear]

I hope this game is more story driven than the others

[knotty pendant]

cant lie the mech thing looks so badass

[serene lichen]

There was an interview at one point where they said that if Eternal was a racecar, the new game would be a monster truck. So less focus on raw speed and more on impact. I think Eternal was a smidgen too fast so I’m very happy to see things taken back a few notches

[delicate grotto]

Game directors confirmed the game would have a more cinematic presentation.

Not that there would be an abundance of cutscenes. I think they meant it in a way where there’ll be more story and moving set pieces. Kind of like how Immora was

[misty beacon]

Killing demons is always a cinematic experience.
Puts my soul to rest.

[grim cloud]

If they do cosmetics (they will), i hope we get more awesome doom themed skins. Eternal was flooded with silly crap. IT was like 10-1 silly versus cool

[frosty spear]

I heard them talking about it in the interview, that really has me excited

[hard thistle]

Hugo specifically said he wants less in the Codex and more in the actual game itself. This part is very promising.

Less having to obsess over lore pages to get the story.

[frosty spear]

I just feel like the story is equally as important as the gameplay is. In previous games, they only rewarded real fans with lore if they explored deep enough.

[serene lichen]

I hope that if they do demon cosmetics again they will apply to single player. I don’t really like FPS multiplayer modes so I never got to play against most of the sillier demons in Eternal. Also if there’s some kind of level editor then that would also help with themed levels

[frosty spear]

I myself am a real fan so I’m not really complaining for my sake, I just wish more people knew the deep rooted lore of the franchise

[heady torrent]

This might actually slap

[serene lichen]

I get the impression that the majority of players just weren’t interested in the lore. For me personally I mostly just want the vibes to be right

[frosty spear]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-oh-no-hes-hot-shaking-gif-16063591

[hard thistle]

spinning saw shield that's also a boomerang, definitely a doom game.

[serene lichen]

I really like the 2016 vibes but felt Eternal’s apparent resolve to have every 3rd sentence mention the Slayer (usually talking about how awesome he is) was kind of patronizing, so I tried to actively ignore the dialogue after my first playthrough

[hard thistle]

In this case the story is blatantly very important to the developers and it's clear that they want to do Doom justice with it.

But Eternal had a fundamental problem with its balance of plot VS lore text, which this game seems to be wanting to fix.

I wonder if there will be more melee than the mace and the shield

[frosty spear]

Agreed, some of the lore of DOOM has continuity issues like the constant changing of suits. I hope all the old suits are canon

We already know the Classic DOOM suit is

[serene lichen]

Note that the 2016 suit is in the Fortress of Doom halfway through repairs and/or modifications

[frosty spear]

I just can't seem to fit the DOOM II/64 suit in the timeline

all the others seem to fit pretty well

[proud vine]

Also the super shotgun situation is kinda strange ngl

[grim cloud]

doom 64 suit was more of a art change from the OG suit

[hard thistle]

The parrying system will be fun. i just hope the online multiplayer will be fun

[grim cloud]

Doom II suit, well the doomguy had to make due with what was available on earth

[frosty spear]

True

[serene lichen]

The Doom 2 suit doesn’t fit. 64’s can be handwaved with “it’s years later so the equipment has since changed”

[frosty spear]

But the DOOM Marine arrived on Sentinel Prime in his MK 1 suit

[hexed stag]

king magnum from dsifl

[proud vine]

I wonder if stuff like the flamethrower or the dash are gonna be back

[grim cloud]

which is why i consider it a art style change

[frosty spear]

possibly

[grim cloud]

otherwise, doomguy would have to be 2D and pixelated

[wintry gyro]

The flamethrower maybe at most we get flame covered weapons but dash is less likely

[proud vine]

Im gonna miss the dash ngl

[serene lichen]

I’d guess the dash isn’t coming back for TDA. It wouldn’t fit with the stated goal of being less centered on speed

[winter idol]

Im so glad the dash is gone

[delicate grotto]

The Meathook, Dash, Shoulder canon and Glory kills are probably not returning in TDA

[winter idol]

It got spammy to the point of annoyance

[proud vine]

I mean that was the point i think

[winter idol]

Dosnt matter, i found it annoying cause of its constant unending use

[proud vine]

Fair enuogh

[hexed stag]

gabriel ultrakill too

[serene lichen]

I would’ve definitely preferred if Eternal had buffed the base movement instead, but I found the dash okay mostly

[proud vine]

After playing ultrakill i think playing an fps with slower movement is gonna feel strange ngl

[winter idol]

Shield bash in dark ages looks far more fun

[proud vine]

It does for sure

[delicate grotto]

The “shield” in Eternal is so broken lol

[proud vine]

The minigun one?

[winter idol]

I played ultrakill and it was ok, but after playing slower fps games like prodeus and boltgun i figured out i prefer the slower movement

[delicate grotto]

Yeah

[proud vine]

I wonder what are they gonna give to the super shotgun now since the meathook won't return it seems

[hybrid glacier]

doom slayer finally has flamethrower sword?

[empty estuary]

It won't return????

[winter idol]

We dont even know if weapon mods will return

[delicate grotto]

Hope we see more guns and their abilities at Quakecon, if they decide to show off more TDA

[winter idol]

It wont

[proud vine]

We have seen 4 guns so far so idk

[empty estuary]

Shotgun hook is the best feature of eternal

[proud vine]

When is quakecon gonna happen again?

[empty estuary]

@winter idol how do u know?

[grim cloud]

good chance we see unmaykr, i mean why not?

[delicate grotto]

The game was also designed around that type of movement, whereas TDA is taking a completely different approach.

[winter idol]

Id software have made it VERY clear that they dont want to repeat previous games

[winter idol]

Its not on the shotgun, and devs have said in an interview that they want to slow down and ground the slayer, so that translates to no meat hook or dash

[delicate grotto]

Wonder if double jumping will at least be there lol

[neon perch]

August this year.

[grim cloud]

cant double jump without those UAC double jump boots

[hard thistle]

That sucks because the whole games premise in terms of gameplay is the best fast paced action.

[winter idol]

Could be, wonder if super weapons will be the same or different, or not existing at all

[delicate grotto]

Actually, it won’t be. Wouldn’t make sense, given 2016.

[neon perch]

I genuinely forgot about this.

[delicate grotto]

You don’t get that feature until like, Argent Tower or whatever.

[winter idol]

August 8th

[neon perch]

So probably no jumping.

[winter idol]

I mean, the uac is probably in the game so

[neon perch]

it would be ballsy AF to not have jumping in a AAA FPS in 2024.

[delicate grotto]

Doesn’t mean it’s going to be slow. Classic doom is still fast paced even without all the fancy movement.

[grim cloud]

one weapon we havn't seen is the Rocket Launcher variant for TDA. Maybe it launches flaming skulls

[proud vine]

Some tda gameplay could be shown tbh

[winter idol]

Its practically gaurenteed

[grim cloud]

i would think so

[winter idol]

It would be psychotic if they didnt show any

[hard thistle]

True that. Maybe doomslayer will just be faster than he was in 2016 and eternal.

[delicate grotto]

That’d be fucking sick

[agile osprey]

need

[winter idol]

Thats a weapon in hades 2 lmao

[proud vine]

Maybe with a release date too but i think it's still to early for that

[delicate grotto]

Yeah I could see them boosting his base speed

[hard thistle]

They could possibly make the character faster and jump further/higher if they don’t wanna add dash and double jump.

[winter idol]

I would not expect it to come out until late 2025

[bleak sand]

i'm ngl i just hope we still get some version of the "fun zone" that hugo talks about

[zealous shard]

omg, just saw it .. OMG

[bleak sand]

rather than the nothing burger that is 2016's combat i hope it takes some brainpower

[zealous shard]

damn, can't post pictures 😄

[proud vine]

Probably around november or december could be plausible

[winter idol]

Yea thats what i expect

[hard thistle]

They definitely need to bring back that little prison we had in eternal so you can just kill demons instead of levels. It could possibly be a game mode.

[delicate grotto]

I’d rather it come out later that year tbh. More development time is almost always a good thing.

[zealous shard]

iDTech 7 ??

[winter idol]

I never used that thing

[bleak sand]

i hope we get some form of horde mode on launch tbh as a postgame unlock

[delicate grotto]

Graphics do look insane. Wonder if they made a new engine or if it’s using the one for Eternal’s.

[bleak sand]

i think it's an updated version of id engine tbh

id doubt they'd stray away from such a gem of an engine

[winter idol]

They did say they had engine updates, dont know if they dubbed it a new version or not

[delicate grotto]

Ah

[bleak sand]

the destruction is extremely impressive

[hard thistle]

They need to bring back the online mode. The last one had great potential but got ruined from not having enough demon choices and game mods for it.

[proud vine]

For eternal it was a 2 year wait after the announcement so i would say the game is like 70% done atleast

[winter idol]

I doubt battlemode will make a return

[proud vine]

I doubt multiplayer will even be a thing this time

[winter idol]

Whatever it is, im sure id will make it a surprise

[bleak sand]

im just hoping the combat is as good as eternal's (even if for different reasons)

[zealous shard]

who wrote the music?

[hard thistle]

I also wonder if we will see some form of marauder in this game, I really enjoyed fighting him and he would fit greatly into the medieval aesthetic.

[zealous shard]

not gordon??

[bleak sand]

it doesn't need to be super fast it just needs to have a high skill floor and ceiling imo

[proud vine]

Not mick gordon for sure

[winter idol]

Most likely Andrew Hulshult, although no announcement has been made

Definitly sounds like his stuff tho

[zealous shard]

just saw the trailer .. and yea, it didn't sound much like gordon.

[bleak sand]

marauder is definitely coming back it's an iconic demon now

[proud vine]

The parry mechanic could do wonders to make the marauder more fun

[bleak sand]

i loved the DLC's ost as much as eternal's base game tbh

[bleak sand]

i mean the marauder's whole thing was basically "parry him"

[winter idol]

It wouldnt work with the new gameplay, they would need to completely rework how it works

[neon perch]

There shoudn't be any Marauders.

[winter idol]

Marauder was trash

[ornate phoenix]

the marauder was so annoying and boring

[neon perch]

This is literally before they came to be.

[winter idol]

You just do the same thing over and over again, the game even stops you from using weapon mods against him

[zealous shard]

will we get to know who his grand-grandpa was? :> .. the nazi slayer?

[bleak sand]

really?

[hard thistle]

Yeah, and this game take place I think sometime during when the sentinels betrayed the slayer. So we could see like a human marauder before the demon corruption.

[bleak sand]

ngl i found the marauder to be one of the best demons when used correctly

the first dual marauder fight is still one of my favorites in the series

[winter idol]

Marauder was just (ssg + ballista) and thats it, super boring

[proud vine]

The possesed marauder in the first dlc was just bs tho

[bleak sand]

yeah fuck that guy lol

[winter idol]

You mean the buff totem marauder?

[proud vine]

No the ghost buffed one

[neon perch]

The Marauder is a memorable character, has a cool design, and has an imposing vibe.

Too bad gameplay wise he's obnoxious and bland.

[ornate phoenix]

marauders in the main game were fine, the DLC marauders were super dumb

[winter idol]

Uh, i played through the entire dlc last night and didnt encounter one

[bleak sand]

am i the only one who likes the marauders lol

[proud vine]

It's in the trial thing

[delicate grotto]

I think it’s in the Holt Slayer Gate

[winter idol]

Oh yea i didnt do that lmao

[proud vine]

Wise choice ngl

[hard thistle]

There is so much more they can do with him though. I think making him more difficult would make him better. More moves and make him harder to counter. But don’t put him as a very common enemy like how they did in eternal after the first fight.

[proud vine]

Missed opportunity to make the marauder talk more imo

[winter idol]

Marauder cant return cause theres no dash, it would need to be completely changed

[ornate phoenix]

time for us to just shield bash him in the face

[proud vine]

Could probably work on the parry mechanic instead of the dash

[bleak sand]

i'm just hoping they don't go the doom 2016 route with the combat cause that shit was mid

[winter idol]

Probably but still, i dont want to see another one of those bastards ever again

[proud vine]

Also they basically reworked all the demons from what we have seen so

[bleak sand]

yeah make him slower but higher damage

[hard thistle]

Dude a marauder hand to hand Combat fight would be badass but I don’t think it’ll ever happen.

I know we have the shield but we need some sort of crucible in this game.

[gusty moth]

no

[winter idol]

We have a ball and chain instead

[proud vine]

Nah you got a sawblade shield now

[hard thistle]

Maybe this game we will fight the big titan that can be seen in eternal when you take it from his chest to make it again. As this game takes place before so it could be possible.

[ornate phoenix]

we have a morning star/flail thing

[gusty moth]

maybe

probavly not tho

we already experienced the use of the crucible in eternal, so i doubt itll be brought back again to use it on this titan

[hard thistle]

Because we do see the titan being fought in the trailer. But who knows if it’s the same demon who was dead to the crucible in eternal.

[terse herald]

i'm NOT playing it if that happens i'd die from 1 hit 😔

[winter idol]

The night the slayer got his powers, he got the crucible and instantly stabbed the titan, so thats not possible

[proud vine]

Was the titan fight before or after the slayer got god powers tho?

[delicate grotto]

I’d love for the game to start out with Taras Nabad being attacked, but idk if that’ll mess up some lore elements.

[winter idol]

The same night

[hard thistle]

Who here likes Duke Nukem

[gusty moth]

🙋‍♂️ gonna get that soon

[winter idol]

This isnt duke nukem chat so not me

[ornate phoenix]

duke nukem is mid

[proud vine]

We don't talk about forever 💀

[hard thistle]

I also wonder what the flying demon in the trailer is. Because I don’t think it’s a cacodemon.

[hard thistle]

i like Doom but what about Duke Nukem

[gusty moth]

i need more games like doom

[proud vine]

Ultrakill

[hard thistle]

We need Justice for Duke Nukem

[winter idol]

Its probably a new demon, flying brain thing

[ornate phoenix]

do you mean the revenant?

[gusty moth]

i saw him throwin around a shit, so 👍

[zealous shard]

i only like bj

[hard thistle]

He barely has any games

[winter idol]

Id software dosnt make duke nukem so . . .

[hard thistle]

No the weird one in the background when you watch the trailer. With the eyeball and the brain.

[zealous shard]

bj blazkowicz

[gusty moth]

is wolfenstein similar to doom?

[terse herald]

yep

[ornate phoenix]

hmmm must have missed it. i've only seen the trailer like 20 times...

[delicate grotto]

Tonn of indie titles that are similar to Doom classic and Doom Eternal. Just look on the Steam page for FPS games. You’ll find plenty. Most obvious is Ultrakill.

[zealous shard]

atleast bj blazkowicz (from wolfenstein) is doomguy's great grandpa

[gusty moth]

what are some games similar to doom

[terse herald]

its like doom but not doomslayer ig

[gusty moth]

o shi

[winter idol]

Play prodeus

[terse herald]

@gusty moth + wolfenstien is very good

[gusty moth]

thats pretty vague

which wolfenstein should i get

[terse herald]

ultrakill is way more fast paced

[hard thistle]

Does anyone still play the online mode in eternal?

[winter idol]

Play boltgun, its getting an expansion next week

[ornate phoenix]

yeah people still play, (on pc at least)

[delicate grotto]

Well yes. I didn’t want to list a variety of games. Wasn’t sure which Doom you were referring to.

[winter idol]

I havent touched it in 3 years, but im sure theres a few people

[terse herald]

i have wolfenstien ii the new collosus, it's really good

[zealous shard]

start off with Return to Castle Wolfenstein, before you start playing Wolfenstein: New Order > Old Blood > New Collosus > Young Blood 🙂

[gusty moth]

o ok

[hard thistle]

I personally enjoyed Eternals online. But there is some flaws like little demon selection, maps, and gamemodes. I wish it was a little like 2016s online.

[zealous shard]

or you could also check out john carmack's first 3D shooter (or, the first 3D shooter in general). wolf3D .. but it has like no story with it 😄

[ornate phoenix]

just give us a deathmatch mode

[hard thistle]

Someone already made a shield in 1993 from dark sges

[gusty moth]

eternal got co op?

[ornate phoenix]

it was slayer vs demons

[hard thistle]

I believe they do in the online slayer vs demons but not the campaign

2016 had a way better online tho than eternal

[winter idol]

I dont think deathmatch would work with the slayers new tool kit

[gusty moth]

o

[winter idol]

Im personally not expecting a multiplayer mode in this game, but who knows

[gusty moth]

https://tenor.com/view/berserk-guts-crying-anime-gif-9027702

[hard thistle]

I don’t think we even seen all his weapons

[ornate phoenix]

i would be fine if there was no multiplayer mode at all

[gusty moth]

yeh

doom multiplayer campaign would feel weird in a doom game

[winter idol]

Yea but i think the weapons are specially designed for campaign demons, like the skull crusher is designed for crowds of fodder

[hard thistle]

They wouldn’t do a multiplayer campaign. Why would they do that?

[gusty moth]

looks similar to the unmakyr

[winter idol]

Its spread is far wider

[gusty moth]

the way it fires

[delicate grotto]

If there is a MP it’ll probably be something like a co-op horde mode

[hard thistle]

If they have an online mode for whatever they do I’ll still probably give it a try.

[winter idol]

Large crowds of fodder are going to be a common sight from what it sounded like in the interview

[hard thistle]

An online horde mode would be insane. I would play that.

[unborn light]

pain elemental. seeing the weapons in this game maybe they won't be a pain in the ass

[inner wigeon]

That sounds cool tbh

[winter idol]

A co op mode would be chaos, i dont see how it could work, but that would be interesting

[inner wigeon]

Fighting increasingly hard enemy’s while getting more items along the way

[hard thistle]

And instead of everyone being the slayer in an online horde it would probably be like 2016s online where people were in different armor n stuff.

[unborn light]

probably like 2016

[winter idol]

There was no co op in 2016

[hard thistle]

That or different colored doomslayers like his skins or whatever.

[delicate grotto]

I agree. Devs already shared their issues with co-op when working on Eternal. Performance + balancing issues

[unborn light]

or some kind of "slayer hunt" like the ewok mode in battlefront 2

[unborn light]

just realized you said coop lol my bad, in my head coop and multiplayer are the same thing