Load screen?
#Ludum Dare 56 Collab
lavish carbon
north sage
you mean like a savefile list?
lavish carbon
You mean loading save files or loading the game scene?
lavish carbon
yeah sure
I suppose its just the generic 3-slot thing
Actually, i could be a bit creative
mmmmm
Yeah ok im going to work on the load screen in few hours or so
not sure about the preferences menu though, we only have a single preference
so far
pure ruin
yeah dont worry about pref
also if someone could maybe center the text better horizontally
on the buttons, that would be great
lavish carbon
for some reason this only happens in html5
ill seek for help in the haxeui channel later
pure ruin
I imagine haxeui has some kind of padding
lavish carbon
The label is attached to the button by nature so we can't really do much
pure ruin
padding/gutter
lavish carbon
Mayhaps
lavish carbon
so true
pure ruin
just need to wrap it with #if html5 and throw in some more padding on the bottom
or less on the top
weak fern
was haxeui DESIGNED to be a pain in the ass
its so painful
pure ruin
its probably openfl's fault to be honest
lavish carbon
?
north sage
was haxeui DESIGNED to be a pain in the ass
its so painful
i think it's more or less, catered towards CSS
lavish carbon
Haxeui isn't hell to work with
pure ruin
we fixed some things with the textfield's measurement
north sage
it's probably not meant for flixel users like you and me
weak fern
i think it's more or less, catered towards CSS
which is where 50% of the pain is from
i really hate css
pure ruin
yeah I bet it works better for other frameworks
weak fern
25% is the documentation
25% is haxeui-flixel
north sage
but i love css
weak fern
but i love css
masochist
lavish carbon
Creating layout with xml + css >>> creating layout with code
weak fern
how old are you
can't vote in the usa but im not breaking TOS
lavish carbon
in other words he's 1-
weak fern
my age is a two digit number that starts with 1
north sage
i'm not sure why i thought it was relevant but
i think i work on the easier side of CSS
but let's not bring that up here
lavish carbon
secondDigit > 15 && secondDigit < 18
weak fern
for my site i had to rely almost ENTIRELY on chatgpt for css
when i rewrite the css i'm using tailwind to hopefully be far less painful
north sage
you use chatgpt? i learned CSS through stylus
weak fern
stylus?
weak fern
bonk
pure ruin
vscode keeps breaking on me tonight
Ive had to restart a million times
it's more tired than me
how do I turn the flixel cursor off
its annoying as hell
I turned it off manually but it keeps getting turned back on :3
via openfl
well push comes to shove this is gonna be a text adventure
lol
north sage
how do I turn the flixel cursor off
yes, that's a particularly odd question too
weak fern
closefl
north sage
visible = false
i mean, i've tried that, but it's dang inconsistent
weak fern
FlxG.mouse.visible = false?
north sage
less inconsistencies, more peace
weak fern
FlxG.mouse.useSystemCursor = true;?
pure ruin
k
wow
still killing the system cursor
like it works, but eventually something is calling Mouse hide
again
basically just have no cursor lol
oh because mouse.visible false maybe?
yea
eh, if only I had like 4-5 more hours
I could use a quick nap
lavish carbon
?
pure ruin
I wish I could sleep for a few hours
crisp jackal
Health is always more important than a finished game, you should sleep yeah
pure ruin
yeah gonna lay down for a bit, not feeling great
zenith flume
Is there anything playable so far?
peak kelp
fyi, you might want to grab latest haxeui (core + backend), made some fixes for some issues (within haxeui-flixel) when using a "non 1" scale... im not sure the it will affect you tbh since i dont think you are using dropdowns / menus... but there was a regression (at least i think it was a regression, pretty sure it was all working at some point with Tool.scale != 1)
lavish carbon
merge conflicts hell yes
peak kelp
not in haxeui i presume?
peak kelp
right.. was going to say "how are you using haxeui if you get conflicts" ๐
peak kelp
stash your local changes, pull latest and reapply your stash, no idea what the conflicts are, but it might be enough
lavish carbon
i have no clue why this happens to begin with
peak kelp
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
lavish carbon
said ahead commits have been merged...
ah ok there's an issue compiling to windows
should be Null<Bool>
debugger
iirc frontend is doing good?
no infos about the tilemap but hud is doing good apparently
im going to polish the current menus and add the load screen
lavish carbon
going to make sure we can compile to js/cpp/hl in the process
zenith flume
I haven't seen any screenshots
lavish carbon
oh im not sure.. i don't think the frontend has been commited yet
i just know hud is doing good
no info about the game world
@pure ruin any infos about tilemap yet
zenith flume
How much time is left anyway
lavish carbon
I am insanely stressing
I will commit the menu very soon as im done with it for the most part
But no news about tilemap...
Im also scared that something goes wrong with save files because i have no clue how they work in html5
Obviously im using localhost but im scared something goes wrong with save files elsewhere than localhost
Im defo turning crazy wth
I will add a free play button just in case
crisp jackal
Uploaded the soundtrack on a private soundclound link, if you guys fancy listening to it
Oh wait, bad link: https://soundcloud.com/jeremyfa/tiny-realms-soundtrack/s-4teRLhb15uE?si=463f41d1874440e98930ba6005326227
lavish carbon
<@267852611070197761> https://github.com/haxecollab/ludum-dare-56/pull/33
@pure ruin this now includes the load save menu
A bit rushed tho, might tweak it later
Tho the functionality works and tested in html5
pure ruin
I died a little
oh let me make sure to go play the music bg
at least I got to sleep for an hour
north sage
the mystery remains, for now
pure ruin
lol, I know its you 100%
north sage
well there's no use in knowing who it is anyway
no harm has been done, so let's respond equally
pure ruin
lol someone has been renaming it weird inappropriate things
like ludem poop and ludem dookie
I have probably changed it back 100 times
and I suspected him, so I finally stopped changing it because he probably wanted the attention (why else do it)
and I havent changed it back in the last day
so he brought attention to it finally (attention seeking behavior)
thats how I know ๐
north sage
it's a good deduction, we'll see if it holds water
cold estuary
we will never know, cause i won't investigate it ๐
i am certain it is more than 1 person tho
pure ruin
๐ it was notbilly
north sage
well then let me ask you
pure ruin
im not even mad, your overblown reaction is telling
north sage
are you certain it's not you?
ruby grove
i am
north sage
be honest, no anger
pure ruin
anyway, back to being productive
north sage
so he says he didn't do it
cold estuary
yeah, why are you acting like this is some big deal
north sage
are we all satisfied? although this isn't really a big deal
final falcon
ban him
cold estuary
๐
final falcon
been awhile since we had some scorched earth here
cold estuary
for renaming the voice channel occasionally, i don't think so, i think peeps were just having some fun
but ben is just salty that he's getting profiled so easily
teal ravine
i thought it was bulby
ruby grove
the one framing me is so fucking done after i find out who they are 
cold estuary
bulby defo did it as well
north sage
unfortunately we will never find out
cold estuary
eyedale probably took a dip as well
north sage
i doubt we can know who exactly changed it, other than deduct
hey i'm not the bad guy here
cold estuary
there are no bad guys
north sage
well i have not been at the scene of the crime
you could say i was a very far witness
cold estuary
pure ruin
anywaysss
goodmorning from usa
its cold out
fall is here ๐ป
sadly the starbucks kcups dont taste the same....
pure ruin
Oh wait, bad link: https://soundcloud.com/jeremyfa/tiny-realms-soundtrack/s-4teR...
is also in the game now
zenith flume
is also in the game now
there's no way to change the volume
it's unaffected by the flixel sound system ๐
torpid rover
it's unaffected by the flixel sound system ๐
jus make a custom sound system
ez
maybe somethin like
zenith flume
not sure why just not use FlxG.sound.playMusic
north sage
jus make a custom sound system
let's not overcomplicate things
torpid rover
// openfl code make stuff louder
}
if (FlxG.keysPressed = MINUS){
// openfl code make stuff quieter
}
if (FlxG.keysPressed = ZERO){
// openfl code make stuff silent
}``` idk my brain is decently awakeim not a flixel guy, make a pr
teal ravine
main menu looks real good
pure ruin
about 8 hours into the jam, I was ready to rip out flixel since I was the only one working on things
๐
so I made things a bit agnostic
teal ravine
aren't you an openfl developer?
teal ravine
did you replace josh?
pure ruin
which one
teal ravine
tynjala
teal ravine
ceramic is much easier, you can always blame jeremy
pure ruin
Josh has just been a lot more active than me over the last year or so
wife and I had a baby last october
teal ravine
i am glad one of them goes by joshua
pure ruin
Joshua is the creator/owner
pure ruin
i am glad one of them goes by joshua
yea, it can get confusing when people ask
torpid rover
just differenciate people by their hair
like "person who has hair that looks like a mound of powder"
bahahahaha
teal ravine
be nice alory
primal summit
yeah, grow up
primal summit
he wasn't talking about you
torpid rover
I dont have any hair
you're safe
primal summit
if that matters
torpid rover
number 1
pure ruin
oh
I guess I read that wrong
I used to be very sensitive about my hair
my hairline receeded a lot over the last 5 years
so I started shaving my head
my linkedin profile picture from 2020
pure ruin
aren't you an openfl developer?
anyway, flixel is neat, everyone who takes care of it does a good job, but we're not involved with flixel really
teal ravine
yeah, i think flixel still works with nme
pure ruin
just not my cup of tea
i like ceramic a lot actually
I have my own little game engine
I dont make a lot of games these days
I build and maintain bulletin apps for a bunch of churches and other small non profits
north sage
anyway, flixel is neat, everyone who takes care of it does a good job, but we're...
maybe if we assemble together for ld57, perhaps we can get some sort of "flixel leader"?
someone who's an expert in flixel and stuff
pure ruin
it would be cool if we could somehow unify applications for html5 so that people could do minigames in their own engine but be part of the same web application
totally doable
crisp jackal
it would be cool if we could somehow unify applications for html5 so that people...
Yeah I actually was thinking about this, it would be great
pure ruin
no more deliberations, just, hey submit your things before the end of the jam
use whatever supported engine/framework
north sage
are cross-engine games even possible?
pure ruin
well for html5, it would be much easier
crisp jackal
Not all games for sure, but a warioware-style game for sure
pure ruin
for native applications it gets trickier and down right impossible depending on the build tools you're using
well not entirely impossible, you could have different executables
torpid rover
are cross-engine games even possible?
for cross engine stuff maybe using imports with all engines loaded? i unno
pure ruin
and a unifiying parent application
or shove in child windows
it becomes more tricky with things like unity
or unreal
or mobile
which (who cares)
ruby grove
https://tenor.com/view/overheat-computer-explosion-boom-spark-gif-17323916
lime test windows -debug -32 be like on a windows vista machine:
torpid rover
man i wish i kept windows vista on an old laptop i have it on so i can confirm
torpid rover
i know the haxe installer can run on xp tho idk if haxe can do anything in xp
pure ruin
depends on the target
torpid rover
windows
pure ruin
no I mean
php, jvm, etc
haxe doesnt run on your machine
neko is pretty old
it should work fine on some old platforms
hxcpp should as well
hashlink, probably not?
java should work fine on older platforms
js depends on the js engine
not sure about the latest py
lua should run on older platforms
still trying to balance some of this rng
crisp jackal
well not entirely impossible, you could have different executables
you'd probably be better off packaging everything into an electron app
pure ruin
oh yeah
been facing this all freaking morning and yesterday
like every hour or so
ugh
ruby grove
been facing this **all** freaking morning and yesterday
is that vscode crashing
pure ruin
it it doesnt always recover my recent edits
yes I dont know whats up
It knows I'm trying to race against the clock to get something finished
I think it doesnt like my graphics driver
because I dont have issues when I was remote desktoping from my laptop
but I need the extra monitors
im not used to working with a single display
tabbing to discord is distracting
torpid rover
maybe try seeing if vsc has some sorta quick autosave or backup feature?
pure ruin
it does
most of the time its ok, just annoying
but sometimes it doesnt get like the last 30 seconds of changes
wellll
it might be premature but sorry if I let anyone down
noble willow
vista is still supported
Ok but
Why?
pure ruin
because it still works with hxcpp
noble willow
Why does hxcpp support windows vista still ๐ญ
pure ruin
because it still supports older c++
because, why not
if you dont have to do anything
should we go out of our way to make sure it doesnt work on vista?
ruby grove
nope
torpid rover
should we go out of our way to make sure it doesnt work on vista?
sys.exit();
}```Sys.exit(-1); *
crisp jackal
I think he is just focusing on doing stuff instead of answering here ๐
crisp jackal
Take it easy, it's just a game jam ๐
lavish carbon
i still want our entry to be sent and theres nothing in the public repo
pure ruin
Its stessing me
you're stressing me ๐
lavish carbon
YOU are stressing me
torpid rover
guys calm down
pure ruin
how do you think I feel, I have been working on it for 65 hours straight
with almost no sleep
pure ruin
Lol, show me a period of more than an hour or two where I didnt respond ๐
over the last 3 days
ruby grove
we're cooked
pure ruin
lavish carbon
its not good ๐
Nah im being serious tho please
pure ruin
if I had like 5 more hours
pure ruin
I wasted too many hours on here with stressful distractions ๐
lavish carbon
Nahnah i know you're kidding
You can do it
i can help you a bit later too
Just, commit the stuff if you havent already
WE can make it
north sage
unfortunately i have been told i can't sacrifice my sleep schedule, so you may not ask me to do last-minute work
crisp jackal
if that's AI generated, I'm quite curious to know the prompt and models used to create that
ruby grove
is this ai-
north sage
if that's AI generated, I'm quite curious to know the prompt and models used to ...
we have to take into account of how much can we use AI
teal ravine
i think it was a convertor from a drawing to pixel art
if it is ai, then it should be removed
ruby grove
if that is ai, does it matter if i feed it to bing ai?
north sage
if that is ai, does it matter if i feed it to bing ai?
that's not the point, it's irrelevant
i think the problem relies if AI is considered a "derivative work"
crisp jackal
as far as I'm concerned I never use AI graphics in my games, but I'm still curious about the process of generating stuff
north sage
if it's considered AI, there is the chance we might have to opt out of the graphics voting category
north sage
it depends on who wrote the LD rules, i'm looking at it as we speak
they do recommend that we only use assets we have the legal right to use
pure ruin
its not AI
north sage
then there's no need to pursue it further
lavish carbon
chris do you want me to liveshare with you
pure ruin
I dont think a pixelizer is ai
well its sort of ai-ish I guess
lavish carbon
Then photoshop effects would be ai
pure ruin
yeah
north sage
getting complex i see
north sage
suppose if such "converted art" is considered AI, we'd only need to prove that "we have the legal right to use it"
pure ruin
the line kind of blurs, its not AI generated, but some of the components are ran through a tool that uses AI to turn your art into pixelated art
lavish carbon
It's a piece of code doing an effect on an array of integers
Not a self-learning thing trying to do it
and satisfy you
gahhh whatever
I trust you chris ๐
I will polish some few things
Do you have infos about your wife and the tilemap programmer
north sage
i wonder if we can get a better team next time
lavish carbon
So we can add them in credits
pure ruin
they can be added after the jam ends
lavish carbon
Sure thing
I will cleanup contributors.xml then
And replace the TBDs
Ill polish up my rushed load menu
And i hope for the best
You can do it chris ๐
ruby grove
what is the gameplay then-
lavish carbon
dont lose any time and dont even send any message here
Hes working on it
only reply if we ping
And even then, do it quick
north sage
what is the gameplay then-
if you have something to say, please make sure to check if it's answered first and then check if it's relevant
we're on time pressure
ruby grove
we're cooked
lavish carbon
We're not cooked
ruby grove
why? what about the gameplay????
lavish carbon
We can do it
Yeah hes working on it
He got something basic i guess
Really hope progress can be done fast
pure ruin
if that's AI generated, I'm quite curious to know the prompt and models used to ...
nah its a combination of (mostly) stamps, tiles and brushwork.
lavish carbon
Chris dont lose time you were complaining about stuff ๐ญ
eh actually you were clarifying
but rlly dont lose any time ๐
wish i could help even slightly
But i guess i can still polish up things
crisp jackal
nah its a combination of (mostly) stamps, tiles and brushwork.
Looks good
pure ruin
Really hope progress can be done fast
theres a very real chance I pass out from exhaustion.
ive been past my limit for a while
north sage
That is not good, perhaps you need to take it easy
ruby grove
Again, look it up
i am confused-
primal summit
maybe if we assemble together for ld57, perhaps we can get some sort of "flixel ...
I would love to do collaborative stuff like this, it just never pans out
Even if it's not with flixel, its an awesome idea
October is one of the busiest times for me, family wise, and this one is more hectic than usual
primal summit
things seem hectic right now, sorry for adding to the chatter
pure ruin
all good brother ๐
north sage
October is one of the busiest times for me, family wise, and this one is more he...
We do have April 2025
Maybe you can plan ahead if you're interested?
primal summit
LD 55 was in april but is 57* actually announced for april?
lavish carbon
theres a very real chance I pass out from exhaustion.
i can continue if you want
or you can... just rest.
I really want to send our submission but dont raise the bar
I didnt want to give up
But i feel like we must do now
@pure ruin you should rest. Eventually you can commit what you currently have so i can continue
pure ruin
your camera doesnt work to specification, I'll have to do something else
not really what was required at all..
its all good
teal ravine
or you can tell sword what needs to be changed
and he can do it
given that they have an interest in contributing to the game
lavish carbon
nah ill most likely go to sleep now
They said its ok
i missinterpreted many things
@pure ruin are you doing well with the cam replacement
Also, please ignore my pr
That adds the load save screen
We will think of that after the jam
The pr is named Compilation fixes actually, lol
Famous last words
pure ruin
no worries
pure ruin
or you can tell sword what needs to be changed
nah he couldnt come back to the computer tonight
dont sweat it
teal ravine
a
lavish carbon
@teal ravine i suggest cleaning up credits and replacing the tbds
I still cant believe im making chris have extra work ๐ญ
oh he made the new camera with openfl
eh tbf assuming the remaining time
teal ravine
<@231872730478280705> i suggest cleaning up credits and replacing the tbds
yeah, i can do that. should i remove people who didn't contribute or keep them there for decoration?
@twilit hare Hey, do you have a github account?
You need one to be added to the credits
teal ravine
yeah, i can do that. should i remove people who didn't contribute or keep them t...
I think I'll keep people who were active in the chat during the jam
ruby grove
wassup
teal ravine
does the game currently work?
pure ruin
define work ๐
teal ravine
contains gameplay
pure ruin
ehh
yes/no
I think I failed ๐ฆ
so very close yet so so far
im going to submit it anyway
hopefully people will play the finished game at some point
I have an hour an a half to submit it
ok with me submitting it unfinished? I know peoples names are on it so just making sure
teal ravine
i mean, how unfinished are we talking?
pure ruin
like, not awful but no playthrough
I would be finished in 3-5 hours max
I still have an hour and 15 minutes to submit it, I'm trying to at least make it look pretty
all the content is at least inspiring
teal ravine
that is fine then
vivid ivyBOT
@everyone - Thanks for those of you that helped this silly little endeavor or hung out during the weekend. Hopefully we can do something more organized in the futre.
torpid rover
๐ซก
vivid ivyBOT
https://ldjam.com/events/ludum-dare/56/tiny-realms
pure ruin
Im gonna go sleep, for so long
teal ravine
night!
pure ruin
Oh, I found out there is an Extra Category for games finished after the jam ๐
torpid rover
woa'
teal ravine
huh there is something after compo and jam?
pure ruin
lavish carbon
@pure ruin congrats for being able to nearly finish gameplay frontend ๐
Im so glad we got something submitted
weak fern
pensive
crisp jackal
game doesn't launch for me when I try it on LD page
north sage
that is an issue indeed
can someone try to fix it? i can't just suddenly look busy in class
pure ruin
game doesn't launch for me when I try it on LD page
cors issue
weak fern
oh god
lavish carbon
The hell
pure ruin
its super dumb that I have to fix it on my end
lavish carbon
btw chris would you mind checking dms rn
pure ruin
I just woke up
ruby grove
why are some ppl [insert sentence here] smh....
pure ruin
Sorry for doing a poor job with organizing this ๐
I take responsibility
I feel more sane with sleep.
The game is actually based on the narrative to finish the game. The gloom really represents the Jam deadline.
and we are the individual clans. The object of the game is to unite the clans to defeat the gloom
and I failed to do that 
crisp jackal
Oh, the loading is very slow because of the audio, I offered to convert it to lighter format, I should do it!
Here you go MP3 and OGG ten times smaller @pure ruin
pure ruin
OH
I used mp3
but I forgot to remove the wav file
so its still being loaded
yikes!
pure ruin
Here you go MP3 and OGG ten times smaller <@267852611070197761>
thanks
My brain wasnt working well
Also thanks again, the music is literally the best part of the whole thing
crisp jackal
My brain wasnt working well
Ah yes, can imagin after not sleeping for so long
crisp jackal
Also thanks again, the music is literally the best part of the whole thing
Cool ๐ Can reiterate for another jam!
pure ruin
https://haxecollab.itch.io/tiny-realms-ld56-jam-entry I transitioned to using itch, so it should have less problems loading
torpid rover
itch ftw
tender carbon
but I forgot to remove the wav file
oh no
i tried to load it on celluar data yesterday
._.
pure ruin
its only 30 mb
pure ruin
yeah
thats a lot for mobile data I guess
I'm a little spoiled because I have unlimited data
tender carbon
bruh
i mean it makes sense
you run a business
you kinda want to be always online (reachable)
pure ruin
Well, to be honest, I just got tired of overages from going over my data allowance
it was costing me more than unlimited plan
pure ruin
its mostly from using pandora in the car
tender carbon
never have gotten an alert that im close to the limit
so it isnt worth it for me to get an unlimited plan
because its 25eur / month
tender carbon
i mean iirc I pay like 8,50eur for 12GB
(9,32USD)
tender carbon
because its 25eur / month
(27,42USD)
pure ruin
thats not bad
tender carbon
yeah
pure ruin
thats a lot cheaper than what I pay now
tender carbon
pricing and coverage here in the netherlands is really good
tender carbon
on any highway and railway youre almost guarenteed to have 4G
and 5G is basically everywhere too
i mean i feel like having such good celluar coverage is quite spoling
i feel like if in the future i ever moved to a different country
coverage would likely be worse, and id be quite annoyed by it
like i went to belgium
reguarly I only had 3G available
being used to always have 4G and basically always 5G it is quite the step down
pure ruin
Sorry totally random
but I saw this just now and it reminded me of the jam submission
that about sums it up
tender carbon
Hey, it works
ruby grove
hmmmmmm... ***very zoomed in ***
pure ruin
middle mouse scroll
or pinch
to zoom out
no one really finished their parts for the front end so I had to build it from scratch in an 1.5 hrs before the jam ended ๐
its flawed
obtuse pond
it has been some time since someone chatted in here
i just want to see what happened back then
cold estuary
ld56 ended
obtuse pond
@everyone - Thanks for those of you that helped this silly little endeavor or hu...
futre - Haxebot
cold estuary
https://haxecollab.itch.io/tiny-realms-ld56-jam-entry I transitioned to using it...
here's the project
crisp jackal
Just ping me if you need another music
weak fern
Oh god this project
crisp jackal
I donโt know how to program anyway*