general_chat

[glass rune]

Reducing brain fog the next day.

[patent grove]

AAAAA

light mode

[fast isle]

task manager for me has no dark mode because im on windows 10

[patent grove]

Am sad

Apparently Sony may pull the plug on Destiny 2

According to recent reports

[fast isle]

stop looking at the news. news is usually sad

[patent grove]

Unfortunately the news won’t leave me alone

[fast isle]

you can ignore it

I havent looked at the news in like- 7 years

[patent grove]

Unfortunately all YouTube is news & drama I don’t want

[remote cipher]

It's not easy but you can ignore the news

[forest cosmos]

nice

[patent grove]

I definitely need to get a desk in my room

[forest cosmos]

i dont look at news for that exact reason

[patent grove]

Currently my setup is weird

[fast isle]

indeed

[forest cosmos]

my setup is a docked steamdeck

[fast isle]

gaming news is usually cool. but thats only cause youtube recommends it to me

[patent grove]

If i turn to the left, i see into my brother’s room, and they’re always playing games on their PCs

And my PC is currently in limbo

So I’ve been mostly avoiding it

[remote cipher]

News is put out there to influence you to feel a certain way anyway

I learned

[fast isle]

HOLY DLC BATMAN LMAOOOO

this is funny

[primal harbor]

im back from the year 2036

managed to grab this screenshot

[patent grove]

I was considering joining VCs in here or actual pirates again but i dunno

[primal harbor]

after 10 whole years we get TWO MORE REMASTERS CHAT

this was a painful photoshop edit for such a small meme

i dont even own shadows i had to edit that in

lmao

i was going to keep going with words that are like remake/remaster but i couldnt think of any for syndicate

[patent grove]

https://tenor.com/view/there's-something-on-your-face-asdf-movie-it-was-pain-box-face-hurt-gif-6077326251266853626

[primal harbor]

maybe rebuilt?

not sure

[remote cipher]

So since AOC is finished, what is the Actual pirates guild up to now

[patent grove]

Mainly a chillout place

It seems

[remote cipher]

Until the next MMO

[fast isle]

behold, triangle road

[forest cosmos]

im tired

gn

[fast isle]

Gn!

skylines is stealing my ram 😭

[fast isle]

I think its guild wars 2? 🤷

[remote cipher]

Funny. Thats usually the MMO to fallback on

[fast isle]

Lol nice

its a good game

holds up well

[patent grove]

Warframe is probably my main mmo

If it counts

[fast isle]

I think

Idk

[primal harbor]

baseball field

[fast isle]

yes

[patent grove]

Bsod warframe when

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/987123333659250688/1500440734762012773/KhronBongos.gif

[primal harbor]

hmmmm

[novel horizon]

Gday chat

Lunch break on my first day of actual work...

[primal harbor]

i played a bit of warframe

[novel horizon]

I hate capitalism

[primal harbor]

couple years back

didnt really get into it at the time

[patent grove]

https://tenor.com/view/digital-circus-kinger-tactical-roll-tumble-worm-scooch-gif-17454422470946959315

[sleek garnet]

i cast

hot dog thor

[remote cipher]

Hope you're slowly saving some money

[novel horizon]

I get 80 philippine pesos an hour. 9-5, 7 days a week

[remote cipher]

Don't know how cheap stuff is there but that's like $2 USD an hour?

[novel horizon]

So, assuming i actually do all my hours, its a decent chunk

[novel horizon]

Yeah, prices are low compared to the us

[sleek garnet]

give me some modern slang chat, my miis crave words

[forest cosmos]

no

not again

never again…

[novel horizon]

You're so fetch

[sleek garnet]

im so glad it wasn't the other thing

thanks

[patent grove]

Skibidi

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/987123333659250688/1500440609767559329/KhronShrug.gif

[novel horizon]

As a comparison. Mcdonalds cheeseburger med fries med coke. 187 pesos

So around 4 bucks US

[forest cosmos]

charizzma

[novel horizon]

Chutzpa

[forest cosmos]

i like your funny words, magic man

[novel horizon]

Gumption

[patent grove]

What in the name of science?

[patent current]

Ahhh yes... x-raying an x-ray machine... XD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCvUNmEWDFo

[patent grove]

Ahh yes

[fast isle]

amazing

[patent grove]

4 million chest x-rays

[fast isle]

[patent grove]

Also

According to my immediate family, me masking my disabilities isn’t my fault

[sleek garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/vaporeon-glaceon-pokemon-tontaro-melt-gif-14081902940389351207

[patent grove]

<@&1489742543662092439>

[sleek garnet]

thats a new join too... i suspect it was already a bot when it joined

[patent current]

Yeah bro, I'm definitely gonna get so rich! :3

[sleek garnet]

don't lick it

[fast isle]

dont click sketchy stuff : )

[patent grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/987123333659250688/1500440252324511775/RooLicka.gif

[patent current]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mthun06--k01KRN5DW8GE910AZGC249KA3WC

Looks so tasty tho!!! :3

[simple vortex]

[fast isle]

RIBBIT

[sleek garnet]

if you wouldn't lick it, don't click it

why the sock

[patent grove]

I genuinely think my brain’s thought process is akin to dial up modem

[sleek garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/tontaro-gif-10286148669177706513

[patent grove]

https://tenor.com/view/loading-wut-brain-loading-confused-kitty-gif-1980336111831005447

[sleek garnet]

bread gets the sock

i don't want it

[patent grove]

https://tenor.com/view/minbitt-animation-youtube-gif-6137587457700306324

[sleek garnet]

mirror is here to tell us to drink water chat

[patent grove]

I’m currently drinking water

[fast isle]

chicken jockey

[patent grove]

Forbidden floof

[sleek garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/tontaro-gif-6017009490864187541

[patent grove]

Typhlosion can become long lizard?

[distant iron]

attacks when you pet it?

[patent grove]

Surprisingly he enjoys belly rubs

[distant iron]

mine enjoys poking his head out of my shirt

while i work

[primal harbor]

Most voids like belly rubs

50/50 for orang cars

[primal harbor]

Pocket car

[sleek garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/zorua-pokemon-hissui-region-hisuian-zorua-shiny-gif-1914689531052982197

What is he seeing chat?

[granite venture]

https://tenor.com/view/gir-spin-invader-zim-gif-23559488

[distant iron]

yeah but when his auto feeder goes off he uses my boobs like a launch pad and it hurts

[primal harbor]

Boost pad

[distant iron]

i guess

[ancient zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/blahaj-jumpscare-squeakers-gif-12822585549236878866

:3

[patent grove]

https://tenor.com/view/invader-zim-gir-hi-gif-2550522113687086112

[outer sparrow]

SUIT UP

[glass rune]

Gyatt, Sigma, Ohio, Glazing, No cap, bussing.

Mewing, Aura, Delulu

Aura faming

[patent grove]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-19410756

[glass rune]

They were asking for it, I just deliver

[primal harbor]

yessir

is pretty

im testing out graphics rn

is smooth

i gotta bed soon tho

[patent grove]

I might try it

Idk

[primal harbor]

[glass rune]

Is Thor missing from the top of the server for anyone else?

[primal harbor]

i also hava work saturday

[glass rune]

?

[outer sparrow]

lucky

[primal harbor]

:3

[thorn ether]

Planned internet downtime

[primal harbor]

i got paid today

[outer sparrow]

yes

[thorn ether]

It was planned for yesterday, but is apparently now

Per shaye

I also may have bribed his ISP to force him to take a nap

[patent grove]

Hopefully Shaye is doing well

[primal harbor]

so i treated myself to game

[fast isle]

[primal harbor]

lots of game

[patent grove]

There’s a few games I’ve been interested in

[primal harbor]

Sprawl got a New game

They made a demake

Too look more like a boomer shooter

[patent grove]

I need to play Cyberpunk again

[primal harbor]

boomer collection

[patent grove]

I need to feel the emotions i felt when i first played it

[outer sparrow]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sleepy-b8O--k01KRN7Q9CH2ZAQ7MYXF37J9AW1

[fast isle]

sprawl is awesome

[mental canopy]

i use bussing ironically

[patent grove]

I say glazing occasionally

[outer sparrow]

i read that a bloomer shooter.... Shoot the lens flare... Shooot it

[mental canopy]

also I apologize to the greeks for my generations transgressions

[outer sparrow]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gingy-gingerbread-man--k01KRN7V0SJCGKDFRQN6DPE8VEJ

this was in the movies

[mental canopy]

Prodeus is so f'ing sick dude

[primal harbor]

YES

ITS SO GOOD

the music is great

[mental canopy]

I love the rendering style

[primal harbor]

people have made sick maps too

[patent grove]

Ultrakill is great

[primal harbor]

i want a

i want

whats it called

star wars

[mental canopy]

before you ask

that exists

[primal harbor]

REPUBLIC COMMANDO

[patent grove]

I honestly want a horror game inspired by Edgar Allan Poe’s stories

[primal harbor]

IN PRODEUS STYLE

IMAGINE

[brazen ivy]

brother wants tall tale heart or monkey's paw

[patent grove]

[mental canopy]

I want a game inspired by cask of amontillido

[hot flare]

Life doesn't give lemons, only beans.

[primal harbor]

have you heared of Myst? or Riven?

[mental canopy]

correct, WE made lemons

[patent grove]

[brazen ivy]

thats not true it gives depression

[primal harbor]

its pretty macabre

[hot flare]

AYOOOO

[patent grove]

Honestly my name choice came from Shakespeare

[primal harbor]

Temple

of the Exe

[patent grove]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-temple-stone-temple-pilots-glam-rock-glamour-gif-1636581226831556715

Honestly Temple/Flare’s story resonates with me on a close level

[primal harbor]

Vibe

[patent grove]

Just the feeling of not belonging

[mental canopy]

just kinda realised something

Roathe and Emet Selch kinda look alike

[patent grove]

Probably intentional

Roathe’s dialogue is honestly peak

[mental canopy]

considering Rebb, yeah

[patent grove]

I’m hoping for more peak references in future updates

I hope Sirius/Orion can talk

Allegedly they have the ability to speak

[mental canopy]

I kinda assume it's like some kinda warframe specific vocalization

[patent grove]

I’m 1000% amped for Orion

[mental canopy]

not true speech

[patent grove]

I believe Vena is on his side

[primal harbor]

i like silent protagonists

[patent grove]

Ryouku is on Sirius’s side i believe (?)

[mental canopy]

Swapped iirc

[patent grove]

Oh

I do like the Garuda protoframe

My new zaw I’m building is called “Nevermore”

[minor wraith]

wewt i finally broke 400 elo in blitz :D:D:D

[mental canopy]

still waiting for a nidus protoframe or heirloom

[short totem]

i prefer the ash protoframe.

[patent grove]

Fair

He looks very interesting

[mental canopy]

I want a messed up looking nidus proto

gimme rebb, please

[patent grove]

I’m slso getting my railjack set up (again)

I need to think of a name for it

[mental canopy]

mine is named Highwind

[patent grove]

I keep thinking of poetry lately for inspiration

[mental canopy]

you can tell where i got that from

[patent grove]

Final Fantasy?

[mental canopy]

yep

[patent grove]

I might eventually get FF 16

I could play FF14 on my computer

[mental canopy]

it's either that or Junks

Junks is Xenoblade

https://tenor.com/view/xenoblade-xenoblade-3-xenoblade-chronicles-noah-mio-gif-10637751970325238587

[patent grove]

I find it funny most of the people i know name things silly names and such

Meanwhile

I choose poetry/books/etc. for inspiration

[mental canopy]

i usually go with airships in video games

[patent grove]

I think i named some of my ships after ghost ships and such

I might recreate the Tempestarii at some point

Get Sevagoth Prime a decent build

[mental canopy]

you don't need to recreate it

[patent grove]

True

[mental canopy]

you can just get the skin from Sevagoth's quest

[patent grove]

I was thinking of creating a prime style look for it

The Zaw I’m making is intended for most of my frames lol

[alpine pike]

Steam Controller Firmware:

• Fixed an issue where continuous rumble would sometimes break Gyro input
• Another adjustment to trackpad touch settings

ooof

Rumble so hard, it breaks Gyro

[patent grove]

Hmm

[alpine pike]

It doesn't break the Gyro hardware, just the input (it disturbs the input)

[patent grove]

I blame warframe for getting me into Periphery

They’re a good band

[flint rivet]

Yes, they are.

[patent grove]

https://tenor.com/view/invader-zim-gir-hi-gif-2550522113687086112

[flint rivet]

If you like Periphery you may like Animals as Leaders

[patent grove]

I might look into them

I’ve been listening to mostly progressive metal/rock lately

[flint rivet]

Heavier end or more farty complicated end?

[patent grove]

Cult Of Luna has been all over my Spotify

[flint rivet]

There was one band which sounded like a Dream Theatre tribute band.. uh

[dense nova]

heck

[patent grove]

Katatonia has also been in my head lately

[dense nova]

i almost out of medications and next delivery/pickup moment will be monday

[worthy urchin]

No stream today?

[patent grove]

Maybe slept in?

[flint rivet]

Pagan's Mind! That was it

[patent grove]

https://tenor.com/view/mochi-mochimons-cute-kawaii-kitty-gif-492947389134426846

If I created my own manga, I feel like it would be very very dark

[worthy urchin]

Yes, yes I did, now I don’t wanna get out of bed for work, so I totally sympathize with Thor.

[patent grove]

I need to make my new kitgun on warframe at some point

[mental canopy]

Is Periphery the band that sung some songs from 1999?

[patent grove]

Lamenting The Days

I believe

Flare is voiced by Mark Halcomb

Which is why I’m still building a stage for Flare

I’m using the crates as a makeshift stage

[mental canopy]

they got me into Erra

[patent grove]

same

I knew about them before

But only knew 2 of their songs

[mental canopy]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1339760797362159728.gif?size=160&name=not+shiggying

[patent grove]

I’m excited for the rumored Nova heirloom

I’m interested in seeing a Temple deluxe one day

Apparently we might be getting Kullervo Prime this year

[thorn ether]

Internet is down, per shaye in #ferretchat at roughly 10pm local.

[patent grove]

Hopefully the internet returns

I might make a kick for potential streaming

[worthy urchin]

yeah, just saw Shayes announcement, honestly didnt even realize that the ferret stream was down as well

[patent grove]

I didn’t know Nelas was streaming before

Funni

Honestly everyone getting into streaming has inspired me to want to try it

[mental canopy]

I think Styanax is next in line for a prime

[worthy urchin]

Dont we all just love "expected" and "unexpected maintenance" when it comes to our ISPs? I know I LOVE when comcast does their maintenance /s

[patent grove]

Yep

If they’re following the format

Kullervo is next

[mental canopy]

which is funny considering VORUNA came after styanax originally

[patent grove]

Yeah

I need Voruna prime’s blueprint

And I will have her finally

[mental canopy]

I don't have any of her relics

[patent grove]

Same

I managed to get her parts

[mental canopy]

the most recent prime I got was Xaku

[patent grove]

I’ve been mostly redesigning my backrooms

[mental canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/xaku-xaku-warframe-warframe-warframe-meme-skeleton-shield-gif-9266354019200922323

[patent grove]

Xaku is fun

I need to get a SP build

your guns are now mine!

[mental canopy]

it's fun just using Vast Untime and yoinking everyone's guns

[patent grove]

yoink!

Clem just backing away, afraid Xaku will steal his grakata

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-clem-yellow-eyes-gif-14862662

[mental canopy]

also i found out that sentients do give a thing for Grasp of Lohk

it's an orb

[patent grove]

I need to get more riven slivers

Also need to open my rivens

I might have some really good ones

[brazen ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-skyrim-skyrim-skeleton-shield-gif-7083637920855619649

[mental canopy]

still find it neat the Gotva is the original form of the Aeolok

[worthy urchin]

How hard would it be for Thor and Shaye to be their own ISP? If the internet goes out then, its only their issue, right?

[patent grove]

Probably very expensive

[worthy urchin]

surely it cant be that difficult to get FerretNet off the ground and into homes

or FerNet, whichever has a better ring to it

[patent grove]

Spotify is trying to put HEALTH in my playlist

[patent grove]

https://tenor.com/view/blahaj-slap-tap-desk-slam-office-gif-23977358

CEO Blahaj

I might try dota

[worthy urchin]

Spotify never makes good playlists for me, I gotta make them myself, or search them out, and half the time, people dont know how to curate

[patent grove]

There’s a character that sounds awesome to play

In dota

[frozen dew]

try logging into Chosic and using their tools to make playlists

they're pretty good

[worthy urchin]

like, why is there Limp Bizkit in a Days N Daze playlist?! they are two totally different genres, Bizkit isnt Folk Punk

[patent grove]

Limp Bizkit? in 2026?

[frozen dew]

I will be real and say that any service within spotify doing stuff based on genres went to shit after they fired the guy who did it

[worthy urchin]

ill admit, I enjoy Limp Bizkit, but like, I rarely actually search them out to listen to, if it comes on, ill listen to it

[outer kiln]

it's just one of those days

[patent grove]

Umbra doesn’t like limp bizkit

Probably

[topaz forge]

Hey, guys, I was just wondering if with all those changes to mod team is Kronos still around?

Just popped into my head that I used to hear more of his name on streams and such.

[buoyant needle]

Khronos is streaming as well now

[topaz forge]

I mean, is he still around this stream etc.

Like a teammate and such atleast.

[buoyant needle]

so much like you wouldn't brigade another stream, they aren't nagging each other live anymore

[topaz forge]

I'm kinda lost in translation... From what you're telling it sounds like there was some beef between the two. Is that a correct translation?

[patent grove]

No?

[buoyant needle]

Twitch ediquette things

you aren't supposed to direct anothers stream from your own

[stone sierra]

Not that we know. Just seems like moving on separately

[buoyant needle]

So because they are live in the same block, they can't joke the same way anymore

[topaz forge]

Wasn't Thor saying that Kronos is in fact his long term friend? Like from EVE times. Was it a thing?

[buoyant needle]

I know Kronos' modship is about as old as the channel is. I don't think there's been anything lost between them. Its just the rules of business if they are talking less

[topaz forge]

Sounds like more soulless approach. TBH I came to the stream and stayed for the atmosphere, but now it sounds like the atmosphere is leaking/lost. I mean it wasn't that corpo-like when I joined the community.

[brazen ivy]

soulless? if your friend was covered with drama and you're trying to make something and it clouded it by attachment you wouldn't exactly want to be around that either, ontop of that you don't know if they separated so he could grow away from all that

[topaz forge]

I mean I wasn't watching streams for some time due to lack of time, and now I come back, and that's what I experience. Just went to see if it's just me or something has changed.

[patent grove]

The community hasn’t changed much tbh

We’re all still here afaik

Have wholesome cat meme

[topaz forge]

True, I agree, but I was talking more about the fact that Thor used to spend some time more on stream with his people. Talking to/about them, playing with them etc. It doesn't really needs to be joint stream or whatever.

[topaz forge]

That was the first thing I checked. Discord cannot find Kronos on that discord.

[patent grove]

What? Khronos’s discord?

[topaz forge]

This discord.

[brazen ivy]

probably because you spelt his name wrong

[patent grove]

Most of the former mods are still here as regular goblins afaik

[topaz forge]

You're right on that one.

[flint rivet]

What is the IV contrast medium they use that makes you feel like you wet yourself?

[topaz forge]

Kinda strange that activity has been dropped down to 0 after april, when mod team was disbanded.

[novel horizon]

Well, i'd like to assume that things are still on good terms between thor qnd ex-mods

[topaz forge]

Well. That aws my first thought too. But google tells the tale about some call with ex-mods talking sht etc.

[novel horizon]

And i think part of it is just that they don't have to watch us anymore, so they're doing tgeir own thing

[topaz forge]

I mean, I tried to figure that out myself firstly, but hit a dead end and came into this chat.

[novel horizon]

Really? Can you link it?

[patent grove]

As someone who had some mod experience, it gets frustrating in general

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/987123333659250688/1500440609767559329/KhronShrug.gif

[flint rivet]

To advise, it's mostly sloptube again. And speculating helps no one.

[topaz forge]

Just type "Khronos Pirate Software" in google. It's among the first results.

[patent grove]

I don’t give them the light of day

[topaz forge]

100%

[patent grove]

Have a rainbow hedgie

Very kawaii

[novel horizon]

Cuz if its that ai overview thing, its tainted by biased info. Thor doesn't post publicly about the drama (keeping responses to this server), hence the ai models only get the anti thor stuff

[buoyant needle]

Yea i'm constantly unrecommending smear videos from youtube. we got enough things to hate

[tender mirage]

They turned the fricking Gort gay!

[patent grove]

Gort Gaming

(Probably)

[novel horizon]

All i see are people making speculations without doing the research

[patent grove]

I’ve learned that speculation fuels uncertainty

[short totem]

i hate when people say just type X thing in X website, as links are what people ask for so they should be given links, not clues, as also one persons version of google, could be entirely different to anothers.

[novel horizon]

Of course, when asked Thor and Khronos will likely reply "none of your business" Because they were from that era of the internet

[topaz forge]

Well... Public statements from both sides would have cleared that uncertainty, wouldn't it?

I mean, if someone talking FOR Khronos and mod team it sounds like bad for their reputation, so why no statements?

[novel horizon]

Yes. Problem is thor and his mods rarely make public comments about this kind of stuff. Which is fine, their life to live. Just gotta live with the consequences

[flint rivet]

If I may make an observation; you appear to be digging.

[novel horizon]

I still can't find who that person is

[patent grove]

I should get to work digging in Hytale

[novel horizon]

And frankly, if they aren't a former mod then their statement is getting tossed out the window

[patent grove]

I gotta work on my house

[topaz forge]

Does it matter? I mean why not to clear the noise?

[topaz forge]

Is that a bad thing?

[patent grove]

I might build near a Kweebec village

So I have neighbors

[topaz forge]

Agreed.

[novel horizon]

Because "Source: trust me bro" Is dubious at best.

Would you trust me if I said I was a whistleblower for Nestle? Without showing prior work history

[topaz forge]

I don't even know what you're talking abt...

[novel horizon]

If they have a connection to a former mod or are one themselves then I'd trust it

[topaz forge]

But I get the idea.

[novel horizon]

But until you can verify and trust the soutce of info, never believe it

Think of it this way

If I say "this restaurant sucks" But I have never eaten at the restaurant, would you trust me?

[flint rivet]

It's a wee bit weird

[novel horizon]

I get that sources will sometimes be anonymous for safety reasons, but for something like this its better to attach a name to it

Its not like you're dealing with hitmen

[topaz forge]

In AI times? Sure, but I was trying to get to bottom of this and all I hear is that noise from untrusted sources. Yet I noticed that something has changed on stream. I mean for myself. It's not that enjoyable for me anymore after that time I went offline becase of life stuff. And it only happened to this particluar stream. I mean I still enjoy my list of microstreamers.

[patent grove]

https://tenor.com/view/asdfmovie-tomska-got-your-nose-what's-a-nose-i-don't-know-gif-6812124165319229272

[novel horizon]

Oh i found the guy. It's quintheo

Yeah thats made up speculation

[patent grove]

I believe he’s just going off speculation with everything he covers

But meh

[topaz forge]

Not sure why you think that but ok.

[frozen dew]

saw this and was wondering if I could find a sticker for an orange stuck to an orange cat, I did not

[buoyant needle]

cause its truely not our business.

[tender mirage]

I (unwillingly) get reccommended a new "PirateSoftware bad" video by quintheo every week. Mans obsessed.

[patent grove]

The elder car is awake

[simple anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/cafe-manhattan-cafe-uma-umamusume-fish-gif-14960122862341011468

[novel horizon]

But yeah, to close out the conversation.

The source of the information is coming from a guy biased against thor. Neither thor nor the mod team will rebutt him, so he basically gets to say whatever he wants.

[patent grove]

Fish!

[topaz forge]

Yea, I ban this stuff. I use utube for education and family friendly recreation and this stuff is just plain getting on my nerves.

I never looked at the name of a channel thogh...

[patent grove]

https://tenor.com/view/agnes-tachyon-agnestachyon-tachyon-umamusume-anime-gif-7363674819337210427

[novel horizon]

I think it's kinda dumb to just sit around and let others wail on your reputation, said so many times, but hey if thats how they wanna do it I cant stop em

[tender mirage]

Funny thing is, if they do rebutt him, he ALSO gets what he wants.

[ornate seal]

So, stop believing or lend any emotional or logical credance to untrusted sources. To be honest it sounds like the noise has tainted how you feel about the stream. I certainly haven't noticed that big of a change. Him and Winky certainly still have back and forths when they're in chat

[patent grove]

Agnes Tachyon is best uma

Confirmed

[novel horizon]

I'm just saying. Taking the high road is good and all for moral reasons. But in the history of humanity, force has almost always been needed to bring about any meaningful change

[ornate seal]

Brother this isn't world politics

Its not that deep

[novel horizon]

There's nothing wrong with taking lessons from the macro sense and applying it to the micro

[topaz forge]

That's the only person that I noticed, Winky, and TBH I cannot recall him from my time watching the channel before. Looks to me like a new guy. Also, I tried to understand what is happening after a long time of feeling that something is off. Like for a month or so.

[novel horizon]

Winky is someone thor met late 2024

[ornate seal]

You can't recall Winky? They've known each other for a good time now

[topaz forge]

Yea, I spent my 2025 in a cryo. Kinda... Life stuff.

[novel horizon]

And since around jan 2025 thor has been making content mostly solo, with others showing up on stream only occassionally. Like the code miko and dr.k interviews, or winky and khronos on game streams. But by far less common than solo streams

[ornate seal]

I honestly just think there's several degrees of overthinking going on here

[simple anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/so-much-fun-it's-a-crime-walter-nelson-minions-yuorki-yuorki1-gif-8369629548157395193

[novel horizon]

Agreed

But I'd rather overthink than underthink

[topaz forge]

Man, I came back from a year long limbo. Felt the change, trying to find out if it's me or something has changed.

[novel horizon]

I think its subtle, but there has been a change

[surreal needle]

whats your favourite one out of these

[weak vessel]

ratemygoblin.com score for chat:
11/10 good chatter

[fierce imp]

welp dmca takedown time

once again

already had to do one

last week

cause someone used a script to remove my headers

istfg.

[topaz forge]

I mean, I tried to pitch PIGS to devs that I used to work for etc. I think you can imagine the answers. They are not positive. Only one went to submit his game for a show.

Then my personal feelings abt the stream.

[weak vessel]

0/10 ability to spot sea mammals though

[mental canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/fist-bump-cigarette-oh-oh-yeah-ah-shit-gif-9146527767590968741

[topaz forge]

So now I'm digging. Because, what the hell happened during the year I was busy with life stuff.

[simple anvil]

fog of war

[mental canopy]

honestly really want plushies of hanna-barbera characters

[topaz forge]

Cursed tbh.

[novel horizon]

Thor showed the internet that he's using the "don't feed the trolls" Approach to PR. Which led to everyone taking potshots at whatever they could.

Work history, hacking skills, code quality, personality, employees, etc.

[topaz forge]

I mean, do they even exist? Sounds like they shouldn't.

[mental canopy]

scooby and yogi sound like they should

[novel horizon]

Thor, for the most part, has focussed on other stuff like the gamejams, the rescue building, and the new PIGS thing

[patent grove]

I feel like some people in general want to find things about others in order to give themselves some semblance of sort worth

[novel horizon]

As well as doing work on heartbound

[ornate seal]

Dramaslop Youtubers who can't create their own content, more focused on hearsay, conjecture and tearing down someones life rather than focusing on their own

In other words, bottom of the barrel of "creators" having a louder megaphone and people listen to them over taking any time at all to take a look around

[novel horizon]

Yeah. Its easier to make someone look bad than to improve yourself

[patent grove]

I’ve been working on myself a lot

I feel somewhat better

[primal harbor]

hmmm

[patent grove]

Plus Umbra has demanded human fix themself

[mental canopy]

mainly just want a plush of groovy groove

[primal harbor]

probably doom 2 bc its nostalgic

[patent grove]

Behold

Forbidden floof

[primal harbor]

turok rage wars i played the most

[mental canopy]

whuch is the character in my pfp

[ornate seal]

Basically imagine an audience of people only raised on Headline bombastic tabloid "news". Unpaid paparazzi.

[novel horizon]

At this point, I don't even blame the audience for these vids.

All the evidence in favor of thor requires you to be here and look. That alone is quite intimidating if all you've heard so far is the bad stuff.

[primal harbor]

i owned that at one point

[patent grove]

I’ve been writing my thoughts in a journal lately

[primal harbor]

turok 2 is probably second fav

[novel horizon]

Nobody is on thor's side as a middle-man

[topaz forge]

As a volunteer for PIGS I'm kinda lost with the don't feed the trolls thing. When I spoke to people I've known for a decade and worked on several projects they plainly refused to even talk about submitting their games for a show. And looked at me like I have a dementia or smth for just suggesting it.

[surreal needle]

turok rage wars was the 2nd game? also yeah doom 2 has so many wads and stuff, wayyyy too much content

[patent grove]

I’m currently in my own little bubble

[topaz forge]

I mean, this approach clearly isn't working really.

[ornate seal]

I do blame the audience because they can't imagine that hearsay and conjecture is a thing that exists

[patent grove]

https://tenor.com/view/bubble-the-amazing-digital-circus-untitled-well-be-right-back-after-these-messages-tadc-gif-7272167508922511465

[novel horizon]

Don't feed the trolls is an old internet safety thing. The "if you leave it alone, they'll leave you alone" Mentality. It evidently hasn't worked, or it takes a really really long time to work

[ornate seal]

And they just lap it up because nom nom nom Dramaaaaaaa

[primal harbor]

i think

[patent grove]

I believe consuming drama isn’t exactly healthy for a balanced diet

[topaz forge]

Yea, I know what it is but it was never working as an approach for public figures...

[primal harbor]

i think thor should just create an ai version of himself for people to scream at constantly and then fiegn ignorance when its brought up which one is fake

that would be funny

[buoyant needle]

I used to have pink panther and Larry(?) (exit stage left)

[novel horizon]

That's sadly just how the internet is. Too much info all the time, don't have the mental bandwidth to stop and smell every rose when you're in the middle of the garden that grows thousands a day

[gleaming gazelle]

no no no no no no

[patent grove]

Wat

[ornate seal]

It's not a garden, it's a cesspit of obsessive nuclear toxic garbage

[patent grove]

holds geiger counter up.

Oh boy.

[topaz forge]

My approach is not to smell any then.

[gleaming gazelle]

it reminds me of langoliers.

[patent grove]

What’s that?

[topaz forge]

3.6 not great, not terrible, I assume?

[gleaming gazelle]

its a steven king book and movie/tv show

[weak vessel]

I don't blame them
products of a decades long degradation of the human psyche for power and profit
they know not what they do

[patent grove]

Chernobyl was a good show, even if there was some inaccuracies

[simple anvil]

all youtube fault

[surreal needle]

is it true that stop killing games guy actually went to the EU government

[ornate seal]

And you forget that Thor has brought up literal evidence against random bullshit claims, and it goes ignored or the goalposts just shift.

At some point its just a better idea to not waste your energy on something that isn't changing, and hope that people will find out themselves because then they may learn something

[patent grove]

I believe he did(?)

[weak vessel]

yeah I only caught 5 minutes of one episode, but it did look well done

[flint rivet]

Yep. Fair play to him.

[novel horizon]

Let's also acknowledge something here. Most people here are the kind that are tech savvy. We've been on the internet enough to know not to trust everything we see.

Not everyone is like that. Many will see "drama" As just regular old news. This is even a thing pre-internet, with newspapers and magazines getting tons of sales for content like whats going on in dramatube.

The only difference is that instead of needing a printing press and advertisers, all you need is a microphone and the algorithm. Same problem as before, just amplified by sheer numbers

[topaz forge]

I mean, for long time the innaccuracies was the only thing we got. I'm from those lands (bad spawnpoint, I know) and I can tell that gatekeeping info is in a core of Russia up till nowdays. That show was like a fresh air for me.

[topaz forge]

This is cursed to say for you, but you're right.

[ornate seal]

Yea, well bugger to it all. With a but of luck these people will experience a little bit of what its like to be on the other side and they can learn from that experience

Until then it's not worth giving them the time of day since they won't be convinced or told otherwise even when literal evidence to the contrary is presented in front of them.

[topaz forge]

If only Thor went some mile to recover from all that drama. Like come up with some PR stuff and whatnot. Game is ugly, but you cannot win by not playing.

[weak vessel]

drama farmers farm llama drama like the drama llamas they are
but the llama drama they drama farm is too llama'ish by far

[topaz forge]

TTS it.

[novel horizon]

And let's also acknowledge that, for most people, thor's situation isn't important to them. Much like how I can go "oh, kanye's doing something stupid. Anyway moving on" There are those who see thor, and really any kind of drama, the same. Just a blip, a tiny update to spice up their life without thinking too much of it

[weak vessel]

I'm unemployed self-employed
but someone else should

[topaz forge]

Channel pts?

[weak vessel]

I'm my own boss and poor
living the DJ dream

[novel horizon]

Then, when asked, because they don't have much beyond their surface thoughts, they parrot what they heard. Spreading the bias

[weak vessel]

oh can i TTS with chanllen points?

*channel

sweet

[topaz forge]

Apparently.

[ornate seal]

You haven't seen the tidal wave of nonsensical shit that has come his way, and/or all the places its coming from.

Trust me, there are places where they do not care

[surreal needle]

not everyone, some people believe it or not have critical thinking skills

[buoyant needle]

He both went to the EU board and won I thought, but haven't checked on the case in a hot min

[surreal needle]

oh wow

[weak vessel]

"won"

[topaz forge]

I'm not talking abt playing their game, but to come up with something overshadowing all that toxic stuff.

[simple anvil]

I thought it just a talking (presentation)

[ornate seal]

Won? No it's just progressing.

[buoyant needle]

ty

[novel horizon]

And that's the thing. Everyone does this. Nobody researches everything they come across, but they parrot what the do know (whether its right or not)

People do it to keep conversations going or to fit in with a group.

Nobody has the time, or energy to research everything

[woeful axle]

skg...in 2026?

didnt expect this

[simple anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/kanna-blue-archive-cup-morning-coffee-gif-6533178070975097803

[ornate seal]

So the Ferret Rescue? Slandered and called horrible things over it

Indiecember? Same thing.

Donating to charities? Etc.

They don't care

[topaz forge]

And then someone tells me about overthinking and that the fact that I'm digging is odd... In this chat. I mean...

[woeful axle]

People on the internet dont let random things go

[simple anvil]

Its all youtube

[woeful axle]

especially if people decide something "needs an answer" and there isnt one

or there were lies

[buoyant needle]

realistically, you are making a mountain of a mole hill.

[dense nova]

more skg nonsense?

[topaz forge]

You know. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd seek counsel from pros. Like legit PR agency maybe?

[ornate seal]

No Fytch

[buoyant needle]

and again, its stuff thats only Thor needs to worry/deal with

[weak vessel]

#nopolitics but I heard they gave a good account of themselves and things are being looked at
some good consumer protection stuff comes out of the EU
but they sometimes haul off and pass batshit insane laws...

so we're heading into the "flip a coin to see if we get anything good out of it" stage

[topaz forge]

It's definitely above me to come up with comeback plan.

[median thorn]

https://giphy.com/gifs/reactionseditor-yes-awesome-3ohzdIuqJoo8QdKlnW

[ornate seal]

Costs large amounts of money. Money that is spent in better places

I.e. the Ferret Rescue

[patent grove]

Speen

[simple anvil]

He just need to actually talk to other streamers

[novel horizon]

Game announcements, work rumors, that thing your uncle did, the car crash on 5th avenue, random internet guy, charity fraud.

We are constantly bombarded with information both on and offline that we need to prioritize some over others.

And the ones that put thor's drama on low prio are usually the ones that A. Don't do research. And B. Are likely to just repeat what they hear.

And do I blame them? No. Because they, more than likely, have lives to live outside youtuber drama.

Those people are usually NOT the kind that come here to troll, but they are what spreads the info to those that will

[topaz forge]

I agree, but partially. Thor asks his audience to spread the word about PIGS, that is overshadowed by all this fallout, and his ambassadors are being judgged for that.

[dense nova]

😭 am i that hated?

[thick laurel]

The petition was successful and as a result either has, or is due to, go before the EU Parliament to be debated. This, doesnt actually mean anything though, cos in order to get it before the Parliament to be voted on whether or not they will do the thing, it has to come from the EU Commission first

[median thorn]

https://giphy.com/gifs/Castaways-cat-pet-pat-X42IAaDJ42pHqPllGk

[patent current]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UXCVEk83kE&t=69s

[buoyant needle]

Right, but you don't need all this back information for that

[dense nova]

heh 69

[topaz forge]

When I left Thor averaged smth like 10k viewers. Now it's 2k at best? Looks like lost money to me.

[patent grove]

https://tenor.com/view/minbitt-gif-12597914361412536867

[buoyant needle]

just remind peopl 2-4k eyes on your game is better than none

[topaz forge]

wdym? What back information?

[buoyant needle]

background

[glass rune]

Thors just been smeared to hell and back. Lot of people did this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-a7arGYU4E

[novel horizon]

I mean, when people ask questions like "why are you supporting him, didn't he X" It's better to have the answer than to not

This is the consequence to this PR disaster that thor has had since 2025

[topaz forge]

Exactly my point.

[ornate seal]

It was never averagely 10k. Maybe during OnlyFangs, but that was a large event for many streamers.

And 2/3K now is still over 100% larger than what he had before his blowup which was only about 200 or so

[buoyant needle]

Thor has shorts for most of those too though

[glass rune]

But I have faith truth and love eventually prefail. So this too. Shall pass.

[simple anvil]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HH_OwkbawAAX-0R.webp

[topaz forge]

You're moving goalposts atm. You said that PR relief would cost money. I gave you an example of inactivity costing money too.

[thick laurel]

The answer is 'no' generally. All other answers exist in Thor's videos and he has spoken about them numerous times and pointed people to them.

People dont want answers, they want to complain and be part of the cool kids party

[patent grove]

I’ve had friends ask me “why do you watch/listen to [insert name here]?”

I believe you can enjoy someone’s content without subscribing to their beliefs or opinions

[woeful axle]

[patent grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/987123333659250688/1500440609767559329/KhronShrug.gif

[novel horizon]

It will ripple into every project where he needs public attention.

Applicants for pigs, winners of the gamejam, collabs with other creators, etc etc.

How long this will plague him, who can say? But it will, and pretending it won't isn't helpful

[topaz forge]

Problem is that Thor's content is mostly beliefs/opinions.

[thick laurel]

No really? He's addressing the points you raised and pointing out they arent the points you think they are

[simple anvil]

Thats why it a perfect time to change be a vtuber

[thick laurel]

Bro what?

[buoyant needle]

its honesty, he will update when he gets information

and sometimes when a comment/reply is wierd, its cause there was a 2 or mor hour gap in post and reciept

[patent grove]

BEHOLD

[thick laurel]

Thats not a cat

[dense nova]

https://tenor.com/view/transmit-this-cat-when-they-least-expect-it-transmit-this-bunny-slow-loading-transmitting-fakeout-gif-532479633164265025

[topaz forge]

He literally said that "PR firm costs money that better spend elsewhere". But wouldn't you have less money from 2k viewers than from 10k? Balance-wise both options are losses. I'm not sure which is larger though.

[patent grove]

It is a bnuu

https://tenor.com/view/cute-rabbit-cute-yummy-strawberry-silly-gif-11015733056807198532

[dense nova]

https://tenor.com/view/making-biscuit-bunny-review-kitty-review-bnuuy-biscuit-gif-3288381435908773958

[topaz forge]

What's so confusing?

[glass rune]

Well you are not entirely wrong there. I did enjoy the stream more when it was dev focused, but I do not speak for everyone. Its still good though.

[buoyant needle]

at this point you are being a bad faith argument. you can keep watching and reccomending, or not

[ornate seal]

Moving goalposts? No, I'm just being more generally correct with what actually exists and responding to you. I'm saying that he makes more than he did before his blowup, and if Thor wants to go all out on massive PR campaign, thats his choice.

If he doesn't want to, that's also his choice. He has more important things like continuing the ferret rescue build and funding for their up keep which is 1000's of $ a month. He doesn't want or need a PR campaign to be a drain on finances

[topaz forge]

I enjoyed Indiecember, even though I didn't watch it live.

[fierce imp]

that was easy lol (little bit of light DMCA takedown threatening)

didnt have to fill a whole form out

[simple anvil]

to late for PR at this point

[fierce imp]

:D

[buoyant needle]

glad it went smooth

[patent grove]

I know I’ve definitely at one point been impressionable and took someone else’s opinions as gospel/fact/etc.

but I’ve definitely evolved to where i’ve broken out of my shell and developed my own beliefs

[topaz forge]

Probably true...

[thick laurel]

Except the 10k views arent a long term thing so the money from that doesnt really come in as a consideration. Further and more importantly, there was a lot of bot viewing targetting Only Fangs, so the 10K viwers is a poor argument as it cant be relied upon. Pointing this out isnt moving the goalposts, the posts remain, PR costs money.
The amount of money generated from 10K viwers was not sustainable becuase it was purely for the Only Fangs event and some of that number was non-existant and therefore unpayable anyway

[weak vessel]

the energy required is also a consideration - you spend energy as well as money fighting things
and if what you're fighting is nebulous internets drama because "yOU ArE A bAD" you're basically fighting a hydra at that point
best way to play that game is not to play

[novel horizon]

Even if I do agree that there needs to be SOMETHING done in regards to PR. I doubt there'll be a window for it anytime soon.

Thor didn't strike hard enough while the iron was hot.

[fierce imp]

i had to do a takedown this week cause someone used a script to remove the license headers from every single file in my repo after he forked it to say that he made it. I sent a DMCA takedown immediately (didn't even threaten him to change it) 2 days later his ENTIRE github account got nuked

[dense nova]

https://tenor.com/view/war-games-joshua-woppr-strange-game-doctor-only-winning-move-is-not-to-play-gif-16198386

[buoyant needle]

its the point we're at

[topaz forge]

I recall whole 24 year being 4+ times more audience than nowdays. Do we have the charts?

[patent grove]

I don’t believe people should be disliked/hated for having differing opinions, if everyone had the same opinions, life would be really boring

[novel horizon]

That might work if someone's on the smaller side, but not with someone with a following thor's size or bigger.

[thick laurel]

Do you even watch Thors content if you think its mostly 'beliefs/opinons'?

[woeful axle]

I mean I dont anymore

I like his promotion of indie jams and the communty

but the rest has faded

[ornate seal]

Bingo. It's best just to focus on what you're doing and do things for you. Trying to fight the internet when they won't even bloody listen is a pointless endeavour

[patent grove]

Support indie devs, everyone

[topaz forge]

I kinda do. Atleast this year. Man uses his twitch to talk to people mostly.

[buoyant needle]

so talk to him

[patent grove]

I’ve been thinking of writing my game’s story more

[topaz forge]

So you're saying that there's no comeback scenario? I mean it's gotto be.

[buoyant needle]

and you know, rewatch some of the last year

[patent grove]

I got some characters already written down, and the setting

[buoyant needle]

no, across twich, everyone is down by half on average and the numbers haven't been swinging back up like they used to

[topaz forge]

I kinda tried to. Haven't really worked out for me.

[buoyant needle]

the platform is sinking

[glass rune]

Nah. Truth can definetly win, but if you wanna properly cover and debunk everything now with context and why there was confusion you are looking at a 4-6 hour video. I thought about it but I don't make videos or do video editing.

[ornate seal]

No, I didn't say that. I said to opt out of the never-ending shit slinging of the Internet, because at the end of the day you'll get nowhere and just be more emotionally and mentally tired for it

[patent grove]

I’m thinking of making my game have a cyberpunk meets supernatural fantasy

[woeful axle]

When two people watch the same footage/replay and come to different conclusions...there is no "nebulous" criticism its just a differing of what those people value. Aka theres no point in having a discussion about it

[thick laurel]

He communicates with the community, same as always.
The last year he's addressing the very PR issues you bring up, and people trust his opinion because its generally well thought out and reasoned, so they ask him stuff and he doesnt ignore us.

[topaz forge]

TBH I'm more interested in PIGS stuff and if it could be something done to make devs more receptive to submitting their work. I mean, featuuring on indie show is never a bad thing.

[dense nova]

what is PIGS?

[novel horizon]

At the moment, no. It's too late to adress the drama from last year. Heck its too late to address the one regarding the mods.

While I'm no expert, imo the best thing to do now is wait til it blows over. Thor and co. have comitted to "don't feed the trolls" And that strategy relies on some other unfortunate sap to take the internet's attention away while thor focuses on his own thing.

Instead of directly adressing the drama, combat it with so much good news that the bad news looks stupid

[plucky lark]

i actually did look into Twitch tracker for this a bit ago because i wanted to see what thor averaged after he exploded in november of 2023. For this i set the date from january 1st 2024 to january 31st 2025(which would've been slightly after the classic WoW incident). the average viewers says 12k in basically 1 year.

here's the link so you can look at the graph and data yourself https://twitchtracker.com/piratesoftware/statistics

[patent grove]

My character I’m pretty proud of is the narrator/side protagonist, a immortal shapeshifter who joins the quest to find out about their past

[thick laurel]

Shadowrun would like to see you IP

[woeful axle]

eugh

[novel horizon]

Remember indiecember last year? Its that. Daily streams, 3 new/upcomming/in-development games + dev interview a stream

[patent grove]

Shadowrun is definitely a inspiration

[dense nova]

aah okay

[patent grove]

But my game is going to be a pixel art-esque game

[simple anvil]

I just whish thor do youtube post

[glass rune]

Imo Thor should not have called it PIGS, as much as I like the joke. Adding his name AND making it an acronym that could be used as an insult is just ill adviced as much as I like Thor. Why give your enemies possible ammunition yknow?

[patent grove]

like Undertale, Oneshot, look outside

[topaz forge]

Ok, to your knowledge, did he announce any strategy abt him getting out of this mess? I mean, when I pitch PIGS I kinda stand behind the guy. And oh man it's hard nowdays for no real reason.

[patent grove]

I still need to eventually get look outside

Zaf is currently haunting my soul rn

[topaz forge]

Indie show. Like indiecember.

[ornate seal]

Did you forget about the near un-ending amount of people shitting up the chats during that time? They weren't joining to stick around. I'd hardly call them viewers you'd want to keep around

[short totem]

its his soul now

[thick laurel]

I have no idea what PIGS is, but his strategy is to continue to continue to be excellent to each other and party on

[patent grove]

Acorn, the collector of souls

[novel horizon]

Its a bit too late for that. The reputation is so bad that nobody would believe him. It would look desperate, corporate, and pander-ey, even if the wording itself won't the perception of it existing at all will

[patent grove]

[topaz forge]

I'd have to ask you your own question: Do YOU watch Thor's content at all?

[woeful axle]

just get a ukelele

[thick laurel]

Yup

[patent grove]

I should start designing my character

[novel horizon]

Iirc it was a chat suggestion. I was skeptical of it but stayed my tongue because it was a chat suggestion

[glass rune]

Like I said, I like the name, but it seems unwise.

Then again

[patent grove]

I wanted to have a cloak over them to hide their face so it’s up to player interpretation

[novel horizon]

Oh well, the moment has passed anyway in regards for the name

[rocky rose]

( • ̀ω•́ )✧

[glass rune]

It could work in his favor too.

[novel horizon]

Hi ava

[topaz forge]

Thor hosting 4 events now a year apparently. PIGS being indie showcase supports his "support indie" narrative. It's comming up this june I believe.

[glass rune]

Lots of room for malicious people to make themselves less credible.

[patent grove]

https://tenor.com/view/agnes-tachyon-umamusume-wave-gif-16400594007797993306

[glass rune]

https://giphy.com/gifs/bear-hello-waving-IThjAlJnD9WNO

[simple anvil]

Youtube still need attention

[patent grove]

I know my game will include a talking tanuki

[plucky lark]

People weren't joining in throughout all of 2024 to shit on Thor. Which is the time point i picked as november of 2023 is when he blew up. mid january 2025 is when the Classic WoW bs happened, then people jumped in.

i can shorten it to just before. but you can also look at each streams average viewership in that graph in the link i sent.

[ornate seal]

I'd argue not putting his name on it would have been worse. I can only imagine the "outcry"

[patent grove]

the vendor who sells cool spells & books

[rocky rose]

my head is vibrating

[patent grove]

Headache?

[novel horizon]

That's not what they said. They were concerned by the pigs part not the "by pirate software" Part

[novel horizon]

You okay?

[median thorn]

yes

[rocky rose]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-maid-cute-anime-sad-blink-gif-17698479

[buoyant needle]

so much caffiene?

[median thorn]

not enough caffeine

[dense nova]

https://tenor.com/view/headache-headche-anime-anime-head-ibuprofen-gif-18228540310724805165

[rocky rose]

yeah something like that

[patent grove]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-anime-cute-girl-eat-gif-16634424

[ornate seal]

What I'm saying is, is that you cpuld likely take away a large percentage of the views after Jan '25 as it was just several months of garbage hate watchers/chat hoppers

[patent grove]

I hate being a otaku sometimes

[thick laurel]

Oh, you mean the Indiesummer/ect events, yes, he announced that after the first Indicember event because it worked out so well and he felt it needed more time to properly go through the applications. Calling it a narrative is a little unfair though when its actions, not words he's doing

[patent grove]

Lol

[median thorn]

you know what. Creme filled donuts are the better donut

[rocky rose]

i think otakus are more normalized now

[patent grove]

This one, right here, officer!

[ornate seal]

Anyway, for god's sake can we move on

[surreal needle]

have you tried the toffee filled ones from krispy kremes, those are heaven

[thick laurel]

Chocolate custard or gtfo

[novel horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/dk-nintendo-donkey-kong-gif-23203423

[woeful axle]

https://tenor.com/view/see-nobody-cares-not-a-big-deal-its-fine-no-big-deal-gif-16076896

[patent grove]

I dunno what my favorite donut is

[rocky rose]

eh????

[topaz forge]

Translation issues. In my native language "narrative" is more like a "belief acted upon" or "long standing belief".

[patent grove]

I do love Japanese mythology

[median thorn]

toffee filed?! no aw man oh geez aw man oh geez

[patent grove]

Deploy the whimsical Tanuki!

https://tenor.com/view/tanuki-raccoon-dog-watermelon-melon-eating-gif-6333328376912263522

[surreal needle]

no its not just toffee its toffee flavoured creme

[rocky rose]

i want to hug one

[median thorn]

https://giphy.com/gifs/jontron-1BFCXEeA38efS

[patent grove]

Same

They’re so fluffy looking

[novel horizon]

Same

[topaz forge]

And so my issue here is that it's kinda hard to get behind the guy hated in internet (apparently. I've learnt all this only today) to promote his initiatives.

IDC about public "getting behind" I'm talking even in private conversations.

[buoyant needle]

then don't

you don't have to be here, its nice, but also you don't seem to want to be

[topaz forge]

But I want PIGS to succeed. It's a great initiative.

[topaz forge]

I do, but I don't know how.

[patent grove]

I love this community

[buoyant needle]

then drop the rest of the unassociated shit

[simple anvil]

event

[novel horizon]

I mean, I see where they're coming from. I wanna support PIGS ny sharing it around, but every time I do it's a risk of getting into a debate

[patent grove]

So many creative minds in one place

[buoyant needle]

just promote that, and that it is good to get your game seen

[topaz forge]

Have you ever tried to promote an initiative? You need ammo, and Thor's strategy gives none.

[simple anvil]

Its a event

[patent grove]

I thought about putting my game in the Indiesummer event

But it’s nowhere near ready

https://tenor.com/view/evil-theodd1sout-revenge-smile-gif-12479468

[topaz forge]

I tried that. The answers were: "But not in that way" "It's bad publicity" etc.

[patent grove]

Time to get to work

[plucky lark]

Well that graph i showed specifically ends at the end was january 31st 2025 to not show the weird bs happening in the chat, even tho yes technically the drama started mid january 2025.

Here's a different graph with shortened dates before the Classic WoW streams started. Average Viewership being 11.1k viewers. End date now being October 31st 2024. Again here's the link if you wanna look at each individual streams average viewership. https://twitchtracker.com/piratesoftware/statistics

[novel horizon]

It's like saying "Hey you should see this show" "Oh, isn't it by that guy that kicks puppies" "No he doesnt" "But here it says"...

[buoyant needle]

I've linked/tossed four ish games through the community, you can bring horses to water but you can't make them drink

[patent grove]

O.O

New games?

Where?

[topaz forge]

Thank you. That the numbers I was talking about.

[simple anvil]

Say its better than nothing

[novel horizon]

The best case scenario for interactions like that is they simply say no. The worst is that it derails the conversation to talking about the man behind PIGS, Thor, and they say no anyway and you inadvertedly spread even more bad PR

[topaz forge]

Pretty much my cases. The only devs I managed to bring to PIGS are those never heard of Thor. Like at all.

[patent grove]

Funnily enough a few irl friends asked me what i’m up to

I tell them game dev

[topaz forge]

Tried. Didn't work. Not in a single of dozen cases.

[patent grove]

They’re supportive as hecc

[rocky rose]

ok i’m going to sleep my head hurts still

[buoyant needle]

rome wasn't built in a day, and neither was electricity

[novel horizon]

Gnight, get better soon

[crude sleet]

https://youtu.be/oAIa_yw7ufE?si=A6PTF9FJA3bdO_qD

[buoyant needle]

you will fail many times before someone joins

[patent grove]

I might have one of my musician friends make the music for my game

[rocky rose]

will probably wake up at ass crack of dawn :(

[buoyant needle]

and then many more again

[crude sleet]

[topaz forge]

Exactly my point. And I'm not interested in "demoting" Thor, PIGS etc.

[frail otter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uui4M6ktfuA

[patent grove]

This one, right here, officer!

[simple anvil]

Then link them the indiedecember page

[patent grove]

Get’em!

[crude sleet]

YOULL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE

I HAVE AN RPG

[novel horizon]

It'll end the same. "Oh its run by that pirate guy"

[topaz forge]

That was my opening statement. Like: "Take a look, it's a great show, consider being a part of it."

[patent grove]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-amazed-gif-11384070101404242342

Kirby has been deployed

[crude sleet]

chat, did yall know were closer to 2077 than 2015?

[plucky lark]

his current viewership on twitch btw is still massive for the platform. 2.5k-3k average is bigger than most streamers on Twitch.

Also he did the math yesterday and a kick exclusive stream with 650 average viewers pays out the same amount as a twitch stream with 12k viewers. And that money goes towards the Ferret rescue, none of it goes to him.

[patent grove]

Silence you

[topaz forge]

I'll just react with "point up" at this point, so you won't be flooded with replies.

[patent grove]

I will probably be a android by 2077

[novel horizon]

the only way someone gets linked that page and doesn't go up in arms about it being run by thor is if they 1. Don't know about the drama. Or 2. (Do the thing we chatise people for) not do their research and blindly apply

[crude sleet]

oh, also, you can never have your brain uploaded to the internet

[simple anvil]

Its more of the games shown not the person

[crude sleet]

I mean, you can, but it wont be you

itll be a clone

[topaz forge]

Yea, I heard the math. But the point was that longterm this "don't feed the trolls" strategy seems to do more harm than good.

[patent grove]

https://tenor.com/view/zero-zero-as-a-number-gif-13502258

I wish to be Zer0

[tepid flume]

Is subnautica steamrip co op available?

[novel horizon]

Yeah, we know that. But most don't. Say you're a dev that has heard only the bad stuff about thor, then you see that this is happening.

Some will suck it up and apply, MANY MORE WON'T

[patent grove]

#piracy-requests

[tepid flume]

Thx

[crude sleet]

||the game||

[ornate seal]

#piracy-requests take a read from the top

[plucky lark]

not a piracy server. Check #piracy-requests

[topaz forge]

It doesn't matter. This argument doesn't really help those who promote, I tell you that.

[patent grove]

https://tenor.com/view/fursuit-kemono-kemono-fursuit-sunglasses-swag-gif-14578563880946327158

[crude sleet]

DEMONIC SCREECHING

[patent grove]

REEEEEE

[ornate seal]

Also don't try to pirate games that have multiplayer. It's a one-way ticket to malware town

[tepid flume]

Ok thx

[patent grove]

Forza Horizon 6 already got reviews?

Wat

[plucky lark]

its out

people are streaming it

[patent grove]

I saw it got a 92 out of 100

[narrow cedar]

Morning

[patent grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/987123333659250688/1500440609767559329/KhronShrug.gif

[novel horizon]

Mornin

[patent grove]

I will probably try the new forza

[narrow cedar]

My face still feels meh.

[patent grove]

Simply because it’s in Japan

[narrow cedar]

Weeb

[patent grove]

I must drift in Shibuya!

[plucky lark]

i've heard from people in another discord server i'm in say the car handling in Horizon 6 is more realistic but easier.

[patent grove]

https://tenor.com/view/deja-vu-anime-car-gif-24099480

[buoyant needle]

If the people you are trying to promote to, don't want to take your word on a good platform. Despite repeated statements and history of what his streams have done for indie titles. Eventually you got to let them simmer in their mire

[narrow cedar]

Not helping your case/j

[patent grove]

https://tenor.com/view/oguri-oguri-cap-cinderella-gray-umamusume-umamusume-think-gif-12259471504709524315

[topaz forge]

Wait, did he talk abt piracy? I thought he meant if Subnautica will have coop or whatever. I just thought that "steamrip" is a typo or some term unknown to me, like steam local coop.

[plucky lark]

he replied saying thanks so i'm guessing he was looking to pirate Subnautica 2.

[novel horizon]

They're asking for a rip of a game

[topaz forge]

Yea, you may have joined late, I was talking about that I was promoting among the devs I worked for/with for a decade. I'm doing pro-bono QA for smaller devs just because I can, so I kinda care for those guys.

[soft sedge]

Why game wanna Rest In Piece?

[novel horizon]

Anyway. Time for a nap. Got a thing to do in...11 hours

[buoyant needle]

no i was there at the start of your conversation. and its the root of it. You can't force people to do what is good for them or what you want of them.

care or no

[topaz forge]

I understand that, but seeing the pattern makes me wonder if something could be done.

[buoyant needle]

stay positive

[topaz forge]

Doesn't seem to help tbh.

[buoyant needle]

welcome to the last four years

[topaz forge]

Yea... My last 4 years may be different than yours since I'm originally from Russia. Just saying. We got some political stuff that wrecks lives literally. Lol

Not sure what you meant though.

[novel horizon]

The last 4 years has been hard on the whole world

[patent grove]

Yeah

[buoyant needle]

A lot of peoples lives are being inverted. and its snowballing.

[patent grove]

i can’t really say but it hasn’t been fun in the US either

[novel horizon]

In a good book, a situation like this smells of the few chapters before the climax where everything is going wrong. Sadly there is no knight, no hero that can save us

[topaz forge]

I wonder if I'm allowed to joke that I was thinking abt starting a kickstarter to fund the solution to that problem. Like to buy a particular snuffbox. As a present.

P.S.: It's gallows humor, I know.

[novel horizon]

So we suffer under the rule of the dragon

[buoyant needle]

It could even be, that the devs that don't want to join the indieshowcases, just don't want to be know yet. A lot of hackers try to steal ip's out from under you

[soft sedge]

There's. Sometimes that red and starts with an "S"

[novel horizon]

S...ssss....? I got nothin

[topaz forge]

Snake?

[buoyant needle]

Wasn't the scarlet letter an A?

[crude sleet]

Snake? SNAKE?? SNNNAAAAAAKKKKKEEEEEEE!!!

[buoyant needle]

tbf I skipped that book, cause I was having too much of it irl to want to read it too

[crude sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/moonbase-alpha-gif-4988131

aeiou

aeiou

[narrow cedar]

John Madden
John Madden

[buoyant needle]

you can out perform everyone in your engines class and the only thing your classmates will talk to you for is to make 'get in the kitchen' jokes

[topaz forge]

Classics.

[patent grove]

Ferret playing Dark Souls

[soft sedge]

Something where economy works not to enrich the richest 1%. But to cover needs of worker class. I don't know. Maybe I imagine things.

[narrow cedar]

What ds is easy.

[crude sleet]

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[soft sedge]

To many cooks.

[narrow cedar]

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[patent grove]

The ferret doesn’t understand they don’t have opposable thumbs

[buoyant needle]

oh yea, where'd this hammer and sicle come from

[topaz forge]

Pls don't tell me and that S is from USSR, because you literally described the system of it in the previous sentence.

[soft sedge]

This single thing that ensure humanity safety. As soon they understand... We are done.

[patent grove]

Unfortunately

[plucky lark]

https://tenor.com/view/gameover-game-over-ending-gif-9159446

[crude sleet]

sentese

[narrow cedar]

Yet he understands enough to pick up a controller

[patent grove]

The Void cannot be stopped!

[crude sleet]

is this a new name for english teachers?

the sentese?

[plucky lark]

I've never played an MGS game

[patent grove]

Umbra is always plotting

[crude sleet]

you know who else is also always plotting?

[buoyant needle]

your missing on some grade a b-action shenanigans

[patent grove]

“How can I overthrow this two legged being constantly booping my nose”

[patent grove]

||The Game||

[topaz forge]

First three weren't that bad...

[crude sleet]

MY MMMOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM

[buoyant needle]

I count my blessing that I've instilled that Tv nature time is nap time

[buoyant needle]

cause it was more normal for the time

[crude sleet]

https://youtu.be/lix-vr_AF38?si=wd3DHZvDb2YMyZ_d

this video is so chaotic 😭

[plucky lark]

5 also wasn't bad, but there were weird parts like the female character named Silent or whatever

[topaz forge]

The one with grandpa snake? Silver hair and all that?

[primal harbor]

Chat

[plucky lark]

5 wasn't grandpa snake

[buoyant needle]

Lots of recon had to happen to justify Quiets outfit. The End had to havebeen starving

[topaz forge]

That was 4th?

[primal harbor]

Does this photo feel…
Unpresidented?

[patent grove]

That was 4

[buoyant needle]

boo

[topaz forge]

I wish you could turn it into TTS.

[patent grove]

5 was Venom Snake

[primal harbor]

[median thorn]

https://giphy.com/gifs/metal-gear-solid-v-muNcDSuINVr1e

[crude sleet]

I kinda wanna build a lorentz plasma canon

[topaz forge]

It just hit me about that female character that I DO know it. But not from the games...

[plucky lark]

5 was the phantom pain

[patent grove]

Quiet

She was the best companion tbh

[narrow cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/regular-show-my-mom-shirt-swing-trash-talk-bye-gif-5037821

[patent grove]

Mainly because she can take out helicopters

[woeful axle]

That was 4

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid4-mgs4-solid-snake-old-snake-becoming-old-gif-24179307

[topaz forge]

Yeah, that's the one. I mean we got oversexualized female characters before, but man... WHY? Why this? Quiet is a nextlvl sht.

[plucky lark]

ehhh her scenes were weird. but i guess it depends on what you're looking for.

[narrow cedar]

I thought quiet was an interesting character

[patent grove]

Hideo Kojima

[woeful axle]

its because kojima

[patent grove]

Her story is very sad

Also

[crude sleet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1068084415965691976/1466554116636414066/chalreyuko.gif

[patent grove]

She’s rumored to be alive in 2014

Due to the parasite

[narrow cedar]

Yes but everyone threw a b@#% fit over not wearing clothes

[woeful axle]

old woman quiet would be interesting

[topaz forge]

But why this much sex in design? I find it kinda redundant and distractive.

[surreal needle]

i'm still mad about PT why did that get cancelled

[thick laurel]

Ah fair enough then!

[patent grove]

I mean they gave a valid reason but i understand why people weren’t happy

Quiet lives through photosynthesis

[woeful axle]

people cant help but dislike things other people like

like the bayonetta manufactured outrage

[narrow cedar]

Breathes through her skin

[plucky lark]

Welll... its because Konami sucks. And they caused Kojima to leave

[patent grove]

Death Stranding is definitely a great game

I haven’t played 2

[thick laurel]

My best advise to you then is to question those people on why they dislike him, and where more crucially where that information came from

[dense nova]

https://tenor.com/view/boom-explosion-push-the-button-chicken-funny-gif-27679953

[narrow cedar]

Ds 1 is definitely good

[patent grove]

I genuinely think Death Stranding 2’s story was better than E33 to me

[plucky lark]

"game"

its a movie where you walk to each scene

[narrow cedar]

2 is ..... eh

[crude sleet]

ok, chat, yall know how we call all the years in the 1900s by their decades? the 70s, 80s, 90s, etc?

[thick laurel]

Yes

[narrow cedar]

Not bad but more the same