streamchat

[rapid scarab]

worse part is still warm, just... with rain

[junior jasper]

Was umm... Rollercoaster

[wheat sleet]

Ew humidity

[rapid scarab]

this is also a little rollercoaster but because is jeckyll and Mr. Hyde inspired: https://open.spotify.com/track/2D2buW67QmZHuPEv70EipT?si=XrdfG3xFTaeH9W86HVVq3w

[wheat sleet]

Do Kingslayer next

[boreal flower]

oof that weather, so glad i work indoors, even if it's customer service

i'd like to see AI try to offer a kid a cookie cuz they're looking like they're having a rough day while hiding behind their mom

[wheat sleet]

AI would just determine the mom has a higher chance of survival

https://tenor.com/view/i-robot-car-crash-ai-smart-cars-assassination-gif-9369933380210893520

[boreal flower]

that movie was a mindscrew for sure o.o

[boreal flower]

kingdom hearts sale when? >:Y

[rapid scarab]

https://open.spotify.com/track/7CAbF0By0Fpnbiu6Xn5ZF7?si=Oyxg7PE2SBCUgsK-GQoERg

but also

https://open.spotify.com/track/0KLm7cjKriGkqI0ApLlzNb?si=Pf3aSWofSLCbKhrAB3sFmA

[verbal beacon]

Morning all

[high canyon]

[ocean agate]

WORSHIP the hoME-OWner

or he will never release Thor

[vast idol]

oh no, they turned thor into a cat!

[ocean agate]

7s confirmed

[distant rapids]

How are you in stream already? Are you on desktop? 🤔

[wheat sleet]

You can press the chat button to see chat even on mobile

[ocean agate]

yes

i am on desktop

[distant rapids]

Ohhh i have to go all the way right on the sidebar on mobile. Cewl.

[ocean agate]

community train started

https://www.twitch.tv/PirateSoftware

stream still has not officially started

[blissful imp]

he's probably waking up.

[wheat sleet]

Online

[distant rapids]

COMMUNITY TRAIN

[ocean agate]

snacks

[sand solstice]

🤢

[quartz shell]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-eat-eating-food-monster-h-reginald-gif-2362901127389079325

[distant rapids]

Huh... i have found a fascinating glitch. On mobile, the emotes glitch out on streak rewards after some time if you copy text. Edit: huh now its not working... weird.

[proud depot]

Is he saying "beef broccoli" or "beef broth"?

[stoic nexus]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y9wen5z8ro

[wheat sleet]

Beef and broccoli, likely just Chinese takeout

[stoic nexus]

We are too strong!!!

[proud depot]

ahh, ok. Not a big fan of most asian food, so literally never heard of it before

[wheat sleet]

It's a very sensible way to use cheap ingredients

[distant rapids]

Stirfries are Superior

[stoic nexus]

stir fry can be anything too mainly. all the veg and meats

[wheat sleet]

Stir fry is a technique that you can also use with beef and broccoli

[stoic nexus]

if you want all the meats its special stir fry

[distant rapids]

I"m desperate for people to know The Truth, so im pasting this from stream chat. "Thor being a horse makes sense actually. Luscious long hair. Sleeps on feet. Sleeps for nap times, not normal human times. It ALL MAKES SENSE."

[wheat sleet]

You forgot one key fact. No legs.

[late vortex]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2001760/Beast_of_Reincarnation/

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[late vortex]

none of the above, Thor is 5 Ferrets in a Trench Coat

[distant rapids]

I've seen his legs. They're real. Now whether he has two MORE legs hiding...

[wheat sleet]

That's a paid actor

Thor uses a decoy for the ferret camera

[distant rapids]

:O but then that still means he can has four legs

[wheat sleet]

Four... or zero

[late vortex]

i mean no one said they are his legs. he just has legs

[distant rapids]

writes notes on napkin can have... 0-4 legs...

[late vortex]

i suspect he has Khrono's and Jake's legs

[river cargo]

new conspiracy around the mods has dropped lol

[late vortex]

can't be one, it doesn't have a leg to stand on

[proud depot]

I have officially touched grass recently. In fact as soon as all the snow has melted I'm gonna go over the yard once with the mower and mulch the leaves that have been there since fall

like 95% of it is gone, but we had to shovel the roof once so theres some small piles left next to the house

[wicked schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/grass-munching-eating-sun-weed-gif-15563090

[hoary blaze]

Ooo, nice.

Hey, if Thor plays a game today, does anybody know what the plan is?

[wheat sleet]

The plan is undecided. I'm betting on more D4 or some Crimson Desert

Nevermind, he said HOMM

[hoary blaze]

Dang, I thought he was talking about Everything is Crab yesterday, but that was just like one sentence

[wheat sleet]

He looked at it today but just at a glance

TBH it doesn't really have much build variety in the current form

Fun, but only in short spurts

[hoary blaze]

Huh. I thought I had wishlisted it, but it looks like I bought it. I may need to mute the stream and give it a go.

[worthy ivy]

I did this with HOMM when I first saw Thor playing it

thought "that looks really HOMM'y too, I wonder if it's stable?"
(because all the others have crashed on the regular for me)

went to wishlist it
and instead bought it on autopilot

#selfcontrolfail

[hoary blaze]

it sounds like we have similar levels of self control. there was something that got brought up yesterday that I swear I wishlisted and didn't buy, lol. The only reason I could see me buying Everything is Crab is that it's prolly currently like an 8 hour game instead of being some 40-120 hour monstrosity of a time waster like the next 4 or so games I got queue'd up, so it can skip in line

[terse pelican]

https://www.gematsu.com/2026/05/pocketpair-trademarks-palworld-online

[wheat sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/ineedit-needit-spongebob-squarepants-need-it-gif-4883495

And they better let me capture other trainers too

[ocean agate]

what if in palworld mmo you play as a pal monster not a trainer

[wheat sleet]

The Isle, but pals

[ocean agate]

yeah

[worthy ivy]

this would work
you could have the players sign contracts with NPC trainers to get access to tournament dungeons and bonuses and stuff
you can use that to gate content: higher level trainers with the better bonuses and entry to the high paying tourneys will only hire pals of a certain level

[wheat sleet]

I would just eat all the other pals.

[tender field]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn9zNs0XZDk
This is crazy! Developers don't even want to optimize the game anymore!

DLSS frame-gen just to hit 30 FPS

[wheat sleet]

Isn't that another title thqt snuck in Denuvo days before launch?

[civic vector]

Yes

[wheat sleet]

https://www.ign.com/articles/lego-batman-legacy-of-the-dark-knight-quietly-adds-denuvo-drm-weeks-before-launch

So I wonder if those specs are before or after Denuvo

[late vortex]

it's a lego game tho

[quartz shell]

Why tf does every game need denuvo now?

[wheat sleet]

Anti-piracy. CEOs think it boosts sales

[proud depot]

Especially a single player game

[hoary blaze]

huh, yeah, I have 8 minutes played in Everything is Crab now. That wouldn't be a great game to stream

[wheat sleet]

It's fun but a bit limited for now. Needs more options, more maps, more enemies, erc

[late vortex]

ngl id rather see lego games intentonally animated in 24FPS to make it more "Stop motion" like

to keep it in line on how they animated the movie

[hoary blaze]

i also have this permanent problem known as "skill issue" doctors are looking in to it, but i think i'm shit outta luck

[wheat sleet]

For the first few runs you can unga bunga most things

Pick physical or ability and just focus

[hoary blaze]

I got to the first... i guess mini boss thing? i guess i needed to focus on more something, cause i got waxed

[wheat sleet]

I went physical with max size first run and beat it

Went ability poison next run and got smoked

[hoary blaze]

I don't think I got past level 2 on any specific skill, so that may have had something to do with it. I guess I could've rerolled.

so... try physical and size and see what happens if what i'm hearing

[wheat sleet]

Jaws are probably the easiest attack to work with for physical. Horns are okay, then body slam, but skip charge because self damage

[hoary blaze]

horns don't do self damage? maybe i wasn't paying attention to the red closely enough when I was clicking through. The controller is a nice touch, but R2 being the attack button is kinda awkward

[wheat sleet]

I think it's antlers that are self damage

[hoary blaze]

antlers, horn, same thing, right...?

[wheat sleet]

No. Antlers are seasonal, horns are permanent.

https://youtube.com/shorts/PY6_73QDLdw

[hoary blaze]

c'mon, it's not like that can be relevant in my game about evolution

wasn't somebody in here talking about how they're on a KDE desktop Linux the other day? I ordered a heat sink for my NVMe, but I'm also considering swapping to that

[wintry coyote]

o/ KDE here.

[wintry coyote]

needs an option for chat to vote on the evolutions.

[hoary blaze]

i assume you recommend KDE over GNOME/xfce, etc?

[hoary blaze]

oh, that could be fun

[wintry coyote]

in the current state, absolutely. couple years ago i didnt like KDE.

[hoary blaze]

oh, @wintry coyote , this command isn't giving me any output on Pop!_OS, could be worth a run if you have any concerns related to copy fail/dirty frag lsmod | grep -E 'rxrpc|esp4|esp6|algif_aead'

if you get no output, you should be good

[wintry coyote]

no output.

i'd imagine fedora peeps would be quick on acting with that stuff.

[hoary blaze]

Well, kinda everyone, but i suppose especially fedora since they're in that red hat line and RHEL doesn't want to be the one distro getting beat up with priv escs

[wintry coyote]

yeah. fedora is the upstream distro for RHEL so it's like a testing grounds.

[hoary blaze]

this is what you're on atm? https://fedoraproject.org/de/kde/download/

[wintry coyote]

yup.

Fedora 44.

KDE Desktop Edition

[hoary blaze]

huh, i dunno. i kinda like the floating BS in the middle of my DE atm, but I would like having more DE<->script capability

being able to bind hot keys to a shell script is probably enough for me atm, who knows moving forward

with KDE tho, I could apparently have a widget that would be a constant display of my controller and phone's battery on my desktop, which would be pretty dope

[hoary blaze]

the department of redundancy would love this K Desktop Environment Desktop Edition

[wintry coyote]

KDE just feels pretty... complete... i dont need to do much to it. and it's familiar enough that i could easily recommend it for someone moving away from windows too.

[hoary blaze]

that's fair. I just pushed a markdown file from my phone to my desktop using KDE connect on GNOME with how I could test KDE on my current OS using a test user while pushing all installs to a text file, dump all of it in to a git repo, including if I get the widget crap set up how I want it working, then have the rollback to GNOME not containing GNOME recorded to uninstall.

linux is very different, but it has some very unique niceties

like, now I want to make a git repo for the possibility of the switch so i can look at the pretty markdown on my phone

[static yarrow]

Fascinating ad position on twitch mobile

[hoary blaze]

okay, my git project is ready for the concept of me testing kde

[exotic forge]

https://x.com/CommanderRoot/status/2053588440025849954

CommanderRoot (@CommanderRoot)

I don't have any real hope that their detection will work properly.
For example, I try to track bot accounts and for over a year now most days nearly half of the new accounts (https://t.co/Jfrl4Syznl) have their language set to Russian with little to none being suspended

X · May 10, 2026, 9:30 PM

[worthy ivy]

maybe twitch is just really popular in Russia?

[hoary blaze]

I'm testing automated analysis of my random phone games of chess being auto analyzed with the analysis showing up in a public git repo I can access before I test moving a test user in to KDE to see if I can make a widget I like enough to push the full test to github then actually possibly change operating systems

[hoary blaze]

but first i need my local LLM to function so that I get ollama's thoughts on stockfish's thoughts on my moves

[exotic forge]

Is there a lot of custom instructions or are you just passing the data set to a local LLM and have it spit out a response

[hoary blaze]

A little bit of both

when it's done, I can share the git repo, it's public

just don't judge my chess games

[hoary blaze]

almost done, sorry, ollama is slow

https://github.com/kain2749/toaster_chess_analysis

i'm deleting everything then about to play one game on my phone and set a timer for 10 minutes to make sure the whole workflow functions

okay, it works: https://github.com/kain2749/toaster_chess_analysis/blob/main/analysis/2026-05-12_you_vs_cpu_5_20260512_120223_pgn_2026_05_12_12h01_501ced3b871f.md

[hoary blaze]

I'm changing it so it occasionally includes "yo momma" jokes in the analysis and is using the prose of Christopher Hitchens with some Taoist references in it's 1-3 sentence long analysis of Stockfish's analysis.

[exotic forge]

• Sound like a dry, literate critic judging bad chess at 2 AM, somewhat like Christopher Hitchens, but do not write purple prose.

this felt personal lol

[hoary blaze]

Yeah, I'm working on it still, lol

I had to get it so that ollama was using my GPU instead of my CPU, and get it to where it wasn't writing an essay, but was also not just saying "stockfish says x so do that"

[exotic forge]

How did you get it to use GPU instead of CPU?

[serene valley]

about that, you want to have the model be small enough to fit in your GPU in one go

so you can't run something too big

cuz then it has to start using CPU

so lotsa vram

[hoary blaze]

uhh... so, i had to make sure the ollama user had groups permissions, then i created an ini file that told it to use the gpu

[serene valley]

I think there's projects to split up models into layers to fit into smaller vram but idk how those work / whether that can just be done with ollama

[serene valley]

I ran it on windows and didn't have to do any of that, but idk if that's then just linux, something changed, or like group policy stuff

[hoary blaze]

okay, i think it's perfect now, but y'all tell me what you think: "The CPU's g4 is a curious choice, as it allows White to develop the dark-squared bishop and puts pressure on Black's kingside. The knight on f6 is also somewhat exposed, but this is a small price for the opportunity to control the d5 square. In retrospect, patience would have been rewarded by waiting for White to commit to a more concrete plan."

https://github.com/kain2749/toaster_chess_analysis/blob/main/analysis/2026-05-12_you_vs_cpu_5_20260512_120223_pgn_2026_05_12_12h01_501ced3b871f.md

ollama being hilariously wrong about some of the positions definitely gives it some charm

[hoary blaze]

possibly just Linux? could be an nvidia vs amd thing. also, Windows graphics driver support is a lot better than Linux, although AMD is close

[wheat sleet]

I need to go through all my software to see which ones don't have linux versions, or have a linux equivalent that I need to learn. Guessing the photo/video editing ones will be the biggest problem.

[worthy ivy]

I use lightworks
used the free version for ages, only thing that made me upgrade was 1080p export
but if you can stand 720p most of the rest of the features are free
and if you do need the advanced stuff the license is cheap as chips
runs on linux too
https://lwks.com/

workflow is a bit like editing with real film

[wheat sleet]

I'm used to using an old version of Capture One for photo software, but I stopped upgrading because it's like 200 bucks every new version with minimal to no features added. Davinci for video.

[junior jasper]

Thor was checking some finnish language and remined me of this comic

https://www.studyfinnish.com/images/polandball/dog.png

On work when ever some one says i would like to learn finnish im like really

[subtle gate]

https://tenor.com/view/community-gif-23728528

[patent creek]

https://tenor.com/view/the-it-crowd-moss-moss-it-crowd-it-crowd-fire-gif-25242200

[coarse python]

good... good plan there

[ocean agate]

the actually pirates guild has kidnapped Evora https://www.twitch.tv/ev0ra in an attempt to prove she exists for Winky's sake (Guild Wars 2 drops)

[blissful imp]

i'm guessing this is one of Winky's friends

[ocean agate]

its his canadian girl friend

she has a level 9 hype train right now, she wants it to end so she can give out some stickers

[sacred lily]

I do not understand anything

[blissful imp]

and yes its real there's more posts https://www.rxddit.com/r/SteamController/comments/1tbkmoi/it_screams/

[dusky grove]

I want one now just to scare people

give it to a kid and say that the robots are coming to life

[wheat sleet]

How long until someone mods it to rattle off Glados or Wheatley lines?

[wicked schooner]

Theres already custom steam deck startup screens so my best guess is soon

[dusky grove]

Wheatley controller would go off the shelves so fast

[wheat sleet]

Don't forget your companion cube
https://dbrand.com/shop/limited-edition/companion-cube

[wheat sleet]

https://youtu.be/T0RHXColYXU

[blissful imp]

i don't think this is the same thing as the reddit post above as the haptics are the vibration motors on the controller i think.

the Will helm scream is just straight up a Will helm scream once the controller is dropped.

[boreal flower]

it screams? i want it even more now

[boreal flower]

7s in chat

and apparently emote mode crashed or something lol

[fresh ginkgo]

We have-

Nvm you beat me

[boreal flower]

the goblins have been free all this time

[wintry coyote]

goblins breaking the reality.

[wheat sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/доббисвободен-добби-harry-potter-dobby-the-elf-freedom-gif-16615829

[blissful imp]

Clearly needs more duct tape

https://tenor.com/view/ned-flanders-duct-tape-the-simpsons-gif-14376330

[gray fable]

Did Thor crash?

[boreal flower]

duct tape makes you smart

[wheat sleet]

https://gaffatape.de/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/wd40.png

[boreal flower]

sure hope thor baps that troll in chat

[wheat sleet]

Kick chat is troll-free

[small meteor]

Yes please...

[gray fable]

For some reason I have been staying up late to see if Thor streams or not, all so I can find out if I’ll inevitably wake up to a cursed conversation a few hours later

Also Thor be late?

[wheat sleet]

He's de-scrungling

There's the stream

[gray fable]

Kick only today?

[boreal flower]

no thursday

is blockgame dev day today :D

tomorrow is kick day

[wheat sleet]

Maybe Thursday. Not sure if Thor wants to continue doing exclusive streams.

[boreal flower]

^ okay amending my statement then

maybe tomorrow kick day

[dim coyote]

Thor is like a wizard from LOTR. He's never late, he arrives precisely when he means to.

[wheat sleet]

The issue is most of the audience is over on Twitch, and you risk alienating those people by doing a stream on another platform.

Thor might make 20x more ad revenue per person, but that's not the only revenue stream you need to consider. TTS and subs probably make a huge portion.

[tender field]

Yeah, I was not expecting twitch (the offline chat) of all places get toxic over kick exclusive stream last time

[wheat sleet]

It's logical. Kick dug themselves into a giant hole that they may never be able to get out of. People who have Twitch streaks, badges, subs, and watch all their other streamed content there wouldn't want to change over.

[restive grotto]

It's mainly an issue of nobody is LOSING anything with the kick streams.

It's being sequestered to a day that doesn't have streams anyway.

The people that are mad will find another reason to get mad if no kick streams anyway.

[wheat sleet]

People make emotional decisions. Not just some of the time, all of the time. If Twitch users feel like they're being slighted by not having access to a stream, they will leave.

[golden mirage]

Barring being banned by Kick, they have access. Whether or not they choose to access is a personal choice; if they choose not to use kick, then they can't claim they're being denied access, they made a choice to not view.

[wheat sleet]

That's factually incorrect. Whether it's a distaste for the platform by reputation, personal preference, or legitimately not being able to use it because your access point (work/school/government) blocks it, there are reasons.

[restive grotto]

It is still a personal choice though

You still CHOOSE based on those reasons.

[wheat sleet]

If you can't access it because your government blocks gambling sites, that's not really a choice.

[restive grotto]

True

But reputation and personal choice are still personal

gov't restrictions asside

But that isn't a twitch thing.

[wheat sleet]

Short term gains for ad revenue are going to end up losing viewers over the long term. Whether or not that's a net positive is yet to be seen, but it's a gamble.

[golden mirage]

If you're on a network that restricts traffic, you still have options with vpns or your phone, etc. It also still wouldn't be thor slighting someone or denying them access to the stream, it would be a restriction by a third party.

[terse pelican]

All I'm hearing is ''My Favourite streamer doesn't stream on my favourite site when I want to watch, So he clearly has to hate me now, and I'm big mad.''

[wheat sleet]

That's a legitimate concern when you limit someone's choices arbitrarily.

[restive grotto]

People can be angry, but putting thor to be the bad guy because he's making a business decision to try and save the ferret rescue is on them, not thor.

The issue is a lot of people feel entitled to twitch streams

It's all entertainment

[wheat sleet]

That's another thing, the rescue is growing in size but revenue and viewership is shrinking. There's a point where you have to see the numbers and stop spending more.

[restive grotto]

Then that is something that thor will deal with. He's already said that the ferret rescue is his top priority. It's his business to run, not ours.

Despite how many people ALSO care for the ferrets.

[wheat sleet]

Remember when the rescue was ~50 ferrets and Thor said it had reached capacity?

What's it now? Like 80?

[restive grotto]

And he's only expanding cause he has the means to do so.

[wheat sleet]

Same room, same space, somehow fits more than 50% more.

[restive grotto]

I do not know the logistics of how the ferret rescue is run. The only people that likely DO are thor and shaye

[golden mirage]

The size limit was mostly from cage space. If they have more cages in other rooms, that would equal more capacity. Its also nowhere close to 80.

[wheat sleet]

I'm pretty sure Thor said on stream the rescue had more than 80 ferrets.

In any case it's probably just another emotional decision, and combine that with shrinking revenue plus ballooning costs, is going to end up with more cuts or some other move based purely on keeping the business alive.

[golden latch]

Itll be nice having the rescue building built so all revenue is towards upkeep of the ferts

[wheat sleet]

It already is. The money being used to pay for the building is already set aside.

[golden latch]

Expect for the extra cost from additional audits the local gov made him do cause the approval process is taking to long 🙃 so its still sinking more then quoted for things like inspections

[wheat sleet]

Some governments are practically criminal in their dealings, and getting anything involving construction done in a reasonable amount of time involves bribes or having personal relationships with those in charge.

[golden latch]

That i dont know just know thor is having to spend more then expected so 🤷‍♂️ i personally will be happy when the building is done for his stress levels and the comfort of the ferrets

[quartz shell]

What not opening and refreshing your wet palette for over a year does to it.

[worthy ivy]

extra costs from additional audits and extended approval process?
costing more than quoted due to additional inspections?
...
you're just describing anyone building anything anywhere in the world these days

[golden mirage]

stealth construction. built it yourself without permits under the cover of night. nobody will ever know.

[quartz shell]

[worthy ivy]

it's probably still good?
just needs a good shake

[wicked schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-kirk-spock-fast-shake-gif-2279960909055498647

[quartz shell]

Oh yes, just funny how GW paints behave. Basically all the other non-GW paints are normal.

[junior jasper]

Oh good old make home over nigth and you can have it trick, it needed to have a fireplace and fire on it at morning

[golden mirage]

Indeed, fireplaces are a must.

[wicked schooner]

I wish i could enjoy a fireplace

Unfortunately, my countrys is only hot all year around

[wheat sleet]

Shot of paint thinner and lots of agitation?

[golden latch]

The wraiths are coming out of that bone

[blissful imp]

Warlock beyblade is back

[quartz shell]

Just a little shaking.

[odd musk]

oh gods no, what has AI created?!

[worthy ivy]

"Focus. Clarity. No goblins."

@gork is this real?

[restive grotto]

They've gotta know that everyone's gonna get it to talk about goblins now.

Just cause they're "not supposed to."

[stoic nexus]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/346850/Chips_Challenge_1/

Steam

Chip's Challenge 1

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my childhood. so many rainy lunchtimes in the pc lab

[wicked schooner]

Since kick chat is so adamant in talking about milk
https://zslpublications.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1469-7998.1962.tb01835.x

BEHOLD

Giraffe milk

[coarse python]

thank you 60s scientists and your morally just... bad testing ethics

[lament kayak]

Chat was talking about cheese.

[wicked schooner]

What kind of mold is that?

[lament kayak]

whatever Thor's hair is I think...

[livid path]

Don’t worry about kick chat

We’re discussing important things

[rapid scarab]

free floss

[wicked schooner]

So a wig mold then

@livid path The clip didnt include a bit of the earlier tts but still clipped the majority of it
#streamclips message

[restive grotto]

All of you are gross

I hope you know that

I want to remove my ability to perceive the world.

[wicked schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/milk-thirsty-thursday-steve-austin-gif-23763187

[rapid scarab]

I am innocent in all this

[restive grotto]

Doubt

[rapid scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/sadmeow-gif-865986515914460174

[restive grotto]

Doubt

[jolly sky]

Babies can also be disgusting

[rapid scarab]

human babies mostly

[restive grotto]

You are gross AND not a baby.

Worse.

[wintry coyote]

true, they are a goblin.

[wicked schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-peanut-butter-gif-24913717

[sand solstice]

Baby goblin

[wintry coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-goblins-clash-royale-baby-goblin-clash-royale-gif-16870293207017801335

[rapid scarab]

I am 5'1 and totally not a baby

[worthy ivy]

I'm not supposed to be milking the giraffe?
someone should have told me

[quartz shell]

smol baby
go in air jail
one hand

[terse pelican]

You put the numbers in the wrong order

[restive grotto]

Not a baby, just ridiculously small.

[rapid scarab]

that might be

goblins are small

[restive grotto]

Even smaller than a normal goblin.

[quartz shell]

True, Most goblins are taller than Red.

[terse pelican]

If you're 'one' Goblin Tall, You're still taller than Red.

[restive grotto]

Thankfully I'm taller than one goblin.

[terse pelican]

You are, But you're also the Tank brain Goblin, Single minded, Hyper focused on task

[quartz shell]

Red facing the average Goblin.

[terse pelican]

We need the Tyler1 Meme, But with Red.

[quartz shell]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-any-idea-how-little-that-narrows-it-down-that-narrows-it-down-clear-now-its-clear-now-i-understand-now-gif-21256627

[junior jasper]

Friend?

[quartz shell]

This shall suffice.

[junior jasper]

Yes

[terse pelican]

Close enough.

[odd musk]

I am safe from people making memes of me, because if they do, they forfeit their attentions to me in a fey contract.

[junior jasper]

SO IM SAFE!

[odd musk]

Whats your protection?

[junior jasper]

LOST it already!

[quartz shell]

Who are you again?

[junior jasper]

UU shiny

[odd musk]

what?

[quartz shell]

Look at him go.

[odd musk]

So who wants to talk about cheese?

[tribal nest]

CHEESE?!

[odd musk]

Centaur cheese. made from the centaurs I have been giving facts about.

[junior jasper]

Can i have some

[junior jasper]

Food is Food

[quartz shell]

Brother, you don't want that.

[odd musk]

Centaur Cheese for everyone!

You get centaur cheese YOU get centaur cheese!

[junior jasper]

oo Brother Givea hug!

Lets play?

[quartz shell]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-bros-bro-code-dude-bro-hug-gif-15039924

[golden rapids]

was buying milk the euphemism for the wife killed him or for he got wind of the plan and ran away beforehand? I always confuse it with the getting cigarets one...

[wheat sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-read-gif-22252869

[unique ermine]

i knew i wasn't wrong. the streak continues.

[restive grotto]

You can't have my attention cause I don't have any in the first place.

I was medically diagnosed.

[livid path]

Tank brain

[odd musk]

lies.

[odd musk]

I have healer brain. which means I am constantly thinking "GET THE HELL OUT OF THE RING OF FIRE! OMG WHAT ARE YOU DOING? NO NO NO STOP PULLING THOSE MOBS! AAAGGGHHH STOP SPAMMING HEAL ME!"

[livid path]

My DPS brain: “I fell down down down in a burnin ring of fire and it burn burn burns-“

[golden rapids]

Ok, ok, but may we have your word then? /s

[restive grotto]

Which one?

[wheat sleet]

MMO healers are tiny little balls of rage and stress.

[odd musk]

I am an entire crystal of salt.

we healers are salt incarnate

No one is more salty than the healer.

[livid path]

Oh yeah especially when they’re healing me

Cause how else am I supposed to deal as much damage as possible if I’m not standing right on the enemies face?

[golden rapids]

word as in synonym for ability to speak

[serene valley]

Buying milk is the same one as buying cigarettes

[wheat sleet]

Resto healers are chill because there is no burst heal. You die, it's your fault.

[restive grotto]

Then no, you may not have all of them.

[golden rapids]

Really? Wasn't one of them for when the wife killed the husband and hide the body and the other was when he ran away just in time?

[serene valley]

Not that I know

[golden rapids]

It's something from before the times when law enforcement was able to investigate murders closely. It was what happened when someone beat up their wife...

But that is a bunch of generations ago, so...

[serene valley]

I just know it as the same one where the guy just leaves

[golden rapids]

Well the guy didn't leave. Never questioned why the "vanished while getting milk and/or cigarrets" just stopped almost exactly around the time DNA tests and more presence of law enforcement become a thing?

[terse pelican]

@minor nymph You need one of these, https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-the-dice-damage-weapon-dungeon-mace-ter-a-d20-mace-100689

[golden latch]

Except the devs

[wheat sleet]

Devs get paid to deal with it. The guild leader has a full time babysitting job and doesn't get paid.

[fresh ginkgo]

Then there's heroshooter healers, which can be either that, or novice tacticians who can make decent enough calls but panic when they're the ones being shot at

A very different stress factor, them.
GETAWAYGETAWAYGETAWAY SOMEONE HEEEEEELP!!!

[wheat sleet]

Hero shooter healers would have a better job if there was player collison physics or a real penalty for being shot in the back

[small nacelle]

<@&1489742543662092439>

bots are wild tonight

[wheat sleet]

Bro didn't "bro"... are we not bros anymore?

[frozen sonnet]

Bro…..

[odd musk]

hope you all are having a wonderful day

I used to play semi pro TF2 as a medic.

[small nacelle]

[round plover]

So...when are we starting the production of Thor milk, as in, milk made of Thor

[round plover]

It all began with the allocating of the Brain Cells. Three brain cells were gifted to Twitch chat; masters of hype trains and backseating the streamer when he plays video games. Three were given to Kick chat; fastest to interact and quickest to troll. And one, one was given to YouTube chat, who above all else desired chaos. For within these brain cells was bound the strength and the will to rule any stream. But they were all of them deceived, for another brain cell was made. In the land of the Streamer, in the glow of a second monitor, the Dark Goblin Lord forged in secret a final brain cell to doom them all. And into this brain cell he poured all his remaining attention span, his sleep deprivation and his uncontrollable urge to say "chat, are we cooked? One brain cell to rule them all. One by one, the chats of the internet fell to the power of brain rot. YouTube chat spammed. Twitch chat KEKW'd. Kick chat descended into madness. But there were some who resisted. A last alliance of moderators and subscribers marched against the flood of yarrCheers and 7s. And on the very slopes of the livestream, they fought for the freedom of coherent conversation. Victory was near, but the power of the brain cell could not be undone. It was in this moment, when all hope had faded, that a random viewer took up the sacred words: "Ligma." And the Dark Goblin Lord's concentration was shattered. The brain cell passed from chat to chat, who each had one chance to use it wisely. But the hearts of viewers are easily corrupted. And the brain cell has a will of its own. It betrayed Twitch chat to reaction spam and viewbotting. It betrayed Kick chat to endless gamba. And YouTube chat... no wisdom was found there at all. And some things that should not have been remembered were clipped forever. History became highlights. Highlights became TikToks. And for two and a half thousand streams, the brain cell passed out of all knowledge. Until, when chance came, it ensnared a new bearer. A goblin. For the time will soon come when goblins will shape the streaming meta of all..

In case anyone needs the text

[pearl frigate]

Three brain cells for the Twitch-goblins under the sky,
Seven for the Discord-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Viewers doomed to die,
One for Thor on his dark throne
In the Land of Kick where the Shadows lie.
One brain cell to rule them all, One brain cell to find them,
One brain cell to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Kick where the Shadows lie.

[subtle gate]

https://tenor.com/view/what-huh-wat-wut-gif-13031409

[junior jasper]

Don worry about it

[silent compass]

Don't worry chat. I keep the hidden braincells secret. I keep it safe. Hidden away.

[wheat sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/is-it-secret-secret-safe-is-it-safe-gandalf-gif-16120276557232817593

[junior jasper]

It was not a snack?

[foggy plover]

Someone always has to run their yapper

[subtle gate]

no doubt

[tough wing]

Thor span so fast his pc blow up

[rapid scarab]

tenically spinal fluid is the same thing

[junior jasper]

Oo thats why those are nice straws

[hoary blaze]

It's highly unlikely anyone here will ever need this knowledge, but amdgpu_top is pretty bleeping nice.

[subtle gate]

🤔

[rapid scarab]

kick allows 3min clips so here is a full disclosure of the milk incident https://kick.com/piratesoftware/clips/clip_01KRHG72M08S4BH9VWG3GFZKRT

[jolly sky]

Looks like an even more indepth HWINFO

[hoary blaze]

oh, i haven't tested hwinfo, i'm installing it now. This is my "what is going on with my computer/temps" list of crap I run. batt is an alias to check my PS5 controller's battery.

bpytop
sensors
fastfetch
amdgpu_top
batt

@jolly sky what in the world. That's like... too much. I don't even know where to start on that.

Anyway, the only thing I've identified that I need as an upgrade on my rig is an nvme headsink

[jolly sky]

HWINFO is a lot, and you customise what sensors it brings up

[hoary blaze]

I guess if you customized it and wanted it running in a terminal 24/7 or something, it would be worth, but I'm generally just doing a casual check of all systems to make sure nothing is accidentally on fire

[jolly sky]

And have a more scaled down version;

And you can turn off each and every one of those readouts if you wish

[hoary blaze]

Oh, okay, that's pretty. ... wait, is that on Windows?

[jolly sky]

Yup

[hoary blaze]

Cause that might be why we're seeing two very different things with hwinfo, lol

[jolly sky]

Not a native program

https://www.hwinfo.com/

This

[hoary blaze]

Gotcha, not this

[jolly sky]

OH, uh no. And I just looked it up there doesn't seems to be a Linux version of HWINFO

At least not natively

[hoary blaze]

Nah. Just my cobbled together system overview command list that I was talking about: bpytop, sensors, fastfetch, amdgpu_top, and batt, which is: alias batt='upower -i "$(upower -e | grep -Ei controller | head -n1)"'

[jolly sky]

If I chose to I could even display the RPM of the mechanical hard drive, Read/Write speeds of the SSD's, readouts of almost damn near anything

[hoary blaze]

I don't have a mechanical HDD, but yeah, I can get that info from those commands also. I imagine hwinfo is the equivalent of those commands in a pretty GUI for Windows users, which when I used Windows, would've been awfully nice. Which is why I was saying knowing about amdgpu_top is likely too niche to ever matter for anyone watching this chat.

[jolly sky]

Nah I appreciate what amdgpu_top from what I've seen from your screenshot

[hoary blaze]

I had no idea I needed a new CPU cooler until I moved to Linux and say that my CPU was constantly throttling itself, so knowing about hwinfo would've been good

I wish I had kept a picture of the old CPU cooler that came with it. It's a prebuilt that I've slowly upgraded over time...

Ah, it was this, just much dustier.

[hoary blaze]

The good thing about the amdgpu_top, though, is it alerted me to the fact that something was eating up around 5.8 GB of VRAM for no reason. so... yeah, definitely something to keep an eye on.

[hoary blaze]

so why can't we drop f bombs here

[distant rapids]

Honestly? Probably bots. If you dont have that word blocked its like They Know

They descend upon the discord. Like vultures.

[prisma wing]

another one bites the dust~

[distant rapids]

Wow. I cannae believe such a named account would fall for a scam. Preposterous.

[prisma wing]

crazy how that works out sometimes

[hoary blaze]

Okay, is monitoring my VRAM in my upper bar too much, or fine, you think?

[subtle gate]

I see it

[subtle gate]

and another one down and another one down

[hoary blaze]

... or maybe VRAM is fine and I shouldn't be looking at my NVMe temperature sensors

[wicked schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-more-time-gif-4816107

[subtle gate]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-rats-pirate-pirateship-piraterat-gif-27450192

[wheat sleet]

I think Twitch might be doing something weird with viewer numbers. Counting 22 in a chat and Twitch is reporting 12 even after a refresh. Instead of "capping" numbers they just just be reducing them by a fixed amount or percentage, but no way to test that theory without a large sample size, and no way to see the full user list for a large streamer.

Checked a couple other smaller streamers and it's pretty inconsistent. Most are close, but all are under by at least a few even after subtracting bots.

I wonder if that's accounting for users connected to only the chat client.

[silent compass]

Twitch has already stated that people connected via third party apps (chatty, chatterino, etc) don't get accurately counted towards viewer numbers and this has been an on going issue for over 2 years. might be what you're seeing

[indigo wadi]

Twitch has always done weird shit with viewership numbers long before this

[brisk sparrow]

its wild that they struggle with that but embeds still work perfectly fine IMO

[silent compass]

because embeds are the video it's self

[indigo wadi]

I'm convinced Twitch IT doesn't know what it's doing

[silent compass]

Chatty/chatterino just service the chat side (IRC)

[brisk sparrow]

i guess, but chatterino users typically also have the main stream open

[silent compass]

which is why you might have 20 people actively chatting but only 18 viewers show up

[subtle gate]

I don't think any of us know what we're doing

[brisk sparrow]

and embeds typically dont have chat at all

[silent compass]

we also know they stop counting you as a viewer past a "resonable number of open streams"

we just don't know what that actual number is, the assumption is between 2-4

my guess is it's the same weird chat to viewer issues we've been seeing for about a year and not anything new

[wheat sleet]

It just bugs me it's only counting 50% of a small streamer's audience when literally everyone is active

[wintry coyote]

we dont? i was under the impression that it was established you stop counting after having more than 2 stream open. dont remember where i got that from, but it's the number i've abided.

[silent compass]

Twitch has never explicitly given specific numbers as far as I've seen. its always been "a reasonable number of streams a person can meaningfully watch at one time"

which is ambigious

the general assumption is that's between 2 and 4 open tabs, but no one actually knows. TBH twitch may not even know

[indigo wadi]

Twitch is scared of giving actual numbers so people don't find out how their Streamers are ultimately getting scammed (this is an assumption/speculation, i have no data backing this up)

[wheat sleet]

If my memory is correct, you get counted for zero in all streams if you have more than 2 open. I can't pinpoint where that number came from but I'm sure it's 2

[wintry coyote]

fair enough.

[wintry coyote]

this was my memory as well and i have some itch that the info came from twitch, since otherwise i wouldnt have thought it was official.

[indigo wadi]

I didnt know that was even a thing

[silent compass]

That part right there

thats what leaves it open to interpretation

twitch gets to determine what is "reasonably watch"

which again, they've never stated what that number is

not that I can find anyway

I've seen a lot of posts claiming they "know" it's 2

but I've never see twitch actually come out and give us a hard number

[wheat sleet]

I can have up to 4 open at once and get like 90% of what's going on while playing a game unless there's a lot of activity going on (like a collab)

[wintry coyote]

i could have sworn i've seen official source for the 2... but wouldnt be suprised if my brain just hallucinated it... stroke, brain damage and all that jazz...

[wheat sleet]

After you open 2 streams you stop getting channel points

Closest confirmation I can think of

[silent compass]

yeahhh thats not true

[wheat sleet]

Clarification, the 3rd one won't get any

[silent compass]

if that were the case my channel points wouldn't be consistently going up across the 4 streams I have open at all times

[wheat sleet]

I use to open all 4 streams on Twitch and only get points for 2 of those 4 streams even with subs in all of them

Now I just get one on YT and 2 on Kick

[subtle gate]

let's play a game of "how many directions can I split my attention"

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-emperor's-new-groove-falling-apart-fail-funny-gif-5247765474627514298

[wicked schooner]

An adhd nightmare

[wheat sleet]

If it's all game streams I can maybe split my attention 6 ways, but people are much more interactive when thier attention isn't on gaming

[gray fable]

i cast

[silent compass]

I cast go hydrate

[subtle gate]

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-software-piratesoftware-drink-water-thor-drink-gif-9478181560602122273

[wheat sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/trailer-park-boys-i-am-the-liquor-jim-lahey-mr-lahey-lahey-gif-9467675405075601709

[silent compass]

3 years, three long years I've been trying to get chat to take better care of them selves.

but no, you all wanna eat glue and become beef jerky.

[wheat sleet]

Getting a goblin to shower once a week is an accomplishment all in itself

[silent compass]

listen, I don't even try to tell you all to shower. goblins be stinky.

just drink water, eat a damn vegitable once in a while. Have an orange.

[subtle gate]

mine is once every 3 days trying to do it every day

[silent compass]

No dehydration, no scurvey no DVT.

[wheat sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/aew-scurvy-jon-moxley-gif-24787044

[silent compass]

thats all I ask

[wheat sleet]

Sauerkraut is good for scurvy

[junior jasper]

Yes food is good

[wintry coyote]

sauerkraut is good.

[rapid scarab]

I might or might not be going to bed rn

at my 3am

[wheat sleet]

Don't you have to be up for work in a few hours?

[rapid scarab]

I will woke up in 6h daisy as a fresh

[indigo wadi]

YOU TELL US TO EAT GLUE

[silent compass]

I DO NOT

I said you can EARN GLUE

I never said "GO EAT GLUE"

[golden mirage]

But if I turn myself into jerky I'll taste better!

[silent compass]

no canabalisim

[subtle gate]

who wants to eat a goblin and do they even have taste buds

https://tenor.com/view/pitt-richetti-jaredbeamer-cinnamon-toast-crunch-gif-16740124628108982488

is this accurate

[golden mirage]

Goblin Jerky, salty and satisfying.

[subtle gate]

https://tenor.com/view/stargate-jack-sg1-gif-21402301

[silent compass]

s4,e6. Window of oppertunity. amazing episode.

[subtle gate]

the best I think

[carmine sierra]

Time loop shenanigans are always fun

[golden mirage]

"In the middle of my backswing!"

[carmine sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/stargate-sg-1-o'neil-backswing-gif-16997946937783116834

[golden mirage]

One of the best episodes

[subtle gate]

urgo deserves some credit too though

[carmine sierra]

Side note
One of my favorite things with Stargate is that they always found a way to incorporate the season recap as part of the ongoing story

Rather than it just being a plain clip compilation

[subtle gate]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-o-neill-bad-bad-example-stargate-gif-5640168

[carmine sierra]

The first season in particular was great, since it was just
Some senator decided the program cost too much and they all had to justify its existence to him with what they'd found
And as someone who's done both military and government work, yeah that tracks

[subtle gate]

human form replicator: what are you planning
Jack Oneill : I was planning on retiring

ah but thats atlantis not sg-1

[junior jasper]

I would take a bite

[golden mirage]

https://klipy.com/gifs/oh-my-41--k01KRJ25D495PY1XE78V7CCW1BF

[junior jasper]

[wheat sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/indeed-tealc-stargate-gif-4496552

[subtle gate]

don't forget the context

"you have said that on many occations perhaps next time I will not be so forgiving"

[void kiln]

Yes I love teal'c and Jack in that episode when Daniel says "Well if you know everything was going to back to the way it was you could do anything you wanted for as long as you wanted without any consequences" At that moment the look on O'Neills face is the best.

[quartz sonnet]

I like how everyone in the SG-1 fandom can sound off on the season, episode number, and episode name of Window of Opportunity

[silent compass]

its pretty universally loved amongst the fandom.

[thick ledge]

[lament hinge]

yaaa some of us have all 10 season's soo we can just look it up.

[gray fable]

I trying to find one of the shorts where someone manages to out predict Thor and he gets an existential crisis out of it. I think it was about deviled eggs or something so that might help my search

I guess this means I’m scrolling through Thor shorts until I find it

[coarse python]

what about pellagra

[subtle gate]

I just remember it coming up in the thor gets trolled by his chat mix

[gray fable]

https://youtube.com/shorts/CGZ_rdrxRwY?si=hO4_3Yh2SsXheUS9

[subtle gate]

[gray fable]

Have some frogs until I find it

[silent compass]

But what if... more frogs.

[silent compass]

no pellagra either.

[subtle gate]

"what why you could have anything and you wish for frogs...alright"

[wheat sleet]

https://youtube.com/shorts/OHLlxFD1doA?si=EFEKTWBmo-07ZyNC

[gray fable]

https://youtube.com/shorts/4uGTV0hRJoA?si=i9i2UHo4UHvGfL_E

Found it

[subtle gate]

reminds me of https://youtu.be/GKBqIj_ORl8?si=rJkRbSE7P3HgZDF0

[quartz shell]

https://fxtwitter.com/vaelor0/status/2054607039121494433?s=20

Vaelor💥 (@vaelor0)

If I bite into a donut and there’s cheesecake inside I might start crying tears of joy, and I’m not playing.

Quoting Hoops (@Hoopss)
︀
Churro Cheesecake Donuts

**💬 29 🔁 365 ❤️ 3.7K 👁️ 138.6K **

FxTwitter · May 13, 2026, 4:57 PM

[wicked schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-dog-doge-eat-dog-eating-cheese-gif-19199871

[wheat sleet]

Wasting company resources for brownie points is peak corpo dystopia
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/big-tech/big-tech-has-a-tokenmaxxing-habit

[restive grotto]

Yeah that's amazon currently.

My entire department is drowning because of it.

[dusky grove]

one of these days its gonna implode

when the economy is built on trust instead of assets, it just takes a big enough shakeup to topple the house of cards

[wicked schooner]

Reminds me of that one tweet of an employee wasting AI tokens on building cities in game and getting a promotion because of that lol

[restive grotto]

It will

[wheat sleet]

Amazon has killed people for profit and it didn't make a dent in the business. Let me find the article about the warehouse that wouldn't send people home during a hurricane.

[wintry coyote]

found something related to this. https://botcrawl.com/twitch-view-count-limit/ they are saying it was revealed in some twitch partner discord or something?

[wheat sleet]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwardsville_Amazon_warehouse_collapse

[silent compass]

im in that discord. never seen them give hard numbers for it

so unless they have screen shots

[restive grotto]

https://x.com/LotharHS/status/1977011608032625140

DRX LotharHS (@LotharHS)

PSA: big big news for EVERY Twitch users

It was discovered and CONFIRMED by Twitch employees that if
you watch MORE THAN TWO streams at the same time - you are not being counted as viewer!

TLDR: watch maximum two streams if you want to count as viewer and help the streamer

X · Oct 11, 2025, 2:01 PM

[wintry coyote]

no clue if they have. i have all extra stuff blocked so i see just blocks of empty where embeds should be.

[silent compass]

that doesnt give a number

[restive grotto]

That's the only thing I could find on it

Otherwise

[silent compass]

yeah thats the only thing I've ever seen from twitch directly

and its ambigious

[restive grotto]

Intentionally

[silent compass]

yup

[wintry coyote]

In updates shared with Twitch NA Partners, the company clarified that only a limited number of streams per IP address are eligible to count toward official viewership. If someone opens more than two streams at the same time, none of them will be credited with that viewer’s presence. The system automatically flags this behavior as non-engagement and removes it from the metrics. no clue if that's paraphrasing or a direct quote.

[silent compass]

yeah until I see actual screen shot from a twitch staff that says "its two" im still going with we dont actually know

[restive grotto]

All we know is there's a limit

[silent compass]

yup

[restive grotto]

And everyone is jumping on it's two.

[wintry coyote]

fair enough. i'll keep to 2 since i want my viewership to count. that's the only reason why i got turbo too.

[placid plover]

hiiiii chat

[silent compass]

[rare whale]

Hello chat

How’s has everyone been tonight

[subtle gate]

eh

did things

it was the workout day

[rare whale]

Really that bad I figured that you guys would have had a little better of a day than that

There’s always tomorrow

[subtle gate]

tomorrow's the hard part since I don't have anything on the schedule I have to part myself from my computer to put in an application and check in on it in person cause otherwise I'm just floating

[rare whale]

Floating person that’s hard where do you mainly reside

[subtle gate]

Albuquerque

[rare whale]

Oklahoma

[subtle gate]

[rare whale]

Tornado alley here

[gray fable]

https://youtu.be/j-uBRqt4T10?si=tS3IKQWB7p5Fb2E_

This looks so scuffed but fun

[restive grotto]

What in the world

[rapid scarab]

mornin ^^

[cyan vapor]

exclusive milk stream today?

[round grove]

Good morning

[dim coyote]

What did I just watch? 😵‍💫 😵‍💫

[subtle gate]

I freed myself from Hearts of Iron 4 now just to turn everything else off...

[rapid scarab]

"maybe he will" where his words

I bring music ^^ https://open.spotify.com/track/1e1rQNYCZToyBDDka1Io34?si=RX57OLXjS3GoczYlLpFHCg

[blissful imp]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

[gray fable]

Sharks

[cyan vapor]

kick* synonym at this point

[dim coyote]

It felt more like a bad acid trip.

[subtle gate]

https://tenor.com/view/zdziwienie-konsternacja-zaskoczenie-degustacja-facepalm-gif-21618059

[frosty socket]

IT'S THURSDAY, THOR!!

[restive grotto]

It is

[quartz shell]

It's Kick only Thorsday.

[gray fable]

I thought it was Wednesday apparently

[blissful imp]

kick only. like last week. this is the thing as kick pays out 19.92x more than twitch when exclusive.

[boreal flower]

yesterday was wednesday, blockgame dev stream

[blissful imp]

its only for thursday

[boreal flower]

today more of the same but just for kick

[blissful imp]

in 7 hours Subnautica 2 is out. i'd imagine that'll be the friday stream.

[boreal flower]

OwO let's terrify thor with more ocean

[gray fable]

That depends on if Thor plays it

[boreal flower]

considering he's said the ocean scares him iirc, he prolly won't play it

i do hope he comes back to Palworld once that full releases tho!

[restive grotto]

HE DID say he was interested yesterday.

[subtle gate]

https://tenor.com/view/irongiant-dean-coffee-gif-4918035

[restive grotto]

He even played the first one.

[subtle gate]

good night all

[boreal flower]

really? fun! i never got to see him play the first one, so the second will be a treat

[gray fable]

He might play it with friends or something

[boreal flower]

-chants- Mouse, Mouse, Mouse

[junior jasper]

Milk and solidified milk

[glad swift]

so anyone that gets watched in a 5+ apt complex situation gets f***?

how do they handle larger apartment complex situations that lean more towards corprate network size than not

[wintry coyote]

nobody knows.

[glad swift]

that implies there is some thing to be known; ie: doing about it

has anyone confirmed they are doing $*** about it?

[restive grotto]

You think that twitch actually knows what they're doing?

[glad swift]

kind of

[hoary blaze]

Okay, is this just a me thing? I can't subscribe

[glad swift]

they wouldn't be as big if they didn't have their head at least half way out of their @$$

[restive grotto]

You'd be surprised.

[hoary blaze]

and I'm not getting hit up by my bank thinking it's a fradulent charge or something. tf

[restive grotto]

Might be an issue on kicks end

[hoary blaze]

... Wait, are there ads on kick or are subs just to support the streamer?

[tender field]

no ads on kick

[glad swift]

it must suck to work at kick right now your back is against a wall and your neck is against the blade of the knife of advertisting

if you do ads, everyone jumps ship

if you don't, you tank

[hoary blaze]

Oh, alright. I guess I'll not be a sub on kick and stay subbed on twitch. 🤷‍♂️

[wintry coyote]

that was before the current CEO and lots of sh... stuff...

[hoary blaze]

oh, @wintry coyote weren't we discussing something the other day? cause I changed my status bar and I think it's kinda cool

[wintry coyote]

we had a chat about fedora and kde. 🤔

[hoary blaze]

AH! That's what it was. So, I was going to make a custom widget in KDE, but I ended up modifying the upper bar in GNOME for my purposes and it works for now. I still plan to test the KDE/widget thing, tho

[wintry coyote]

[hoary blaze]

Basically, yeah. I think it looks neat

[wintry coyote]

yeah, it's neat.

[hoary blaze]

That is some duct tape and super glue, trust me

[wintry coyote]

mmmh... glue...

[glad swift]

ever since i found out about touch designer and resolume video games just seem so unintersting to me. Then i made the mistake of discovering DMX and lighting arrays. Now all the toys I want are expensive AF 😭

[quartz shell]

The cap decided its time had come.

[odd musk]

oh no!

[silent compass]

unscrew whats left of the cap, get some get a push pin, stick that in the hole and then place plastic wrap over that, screw the remaider of the cap back on. that'll keep it sealed and from drying out

[quartz shell]

Oh, i've already fixed it. Was all chunky inside too, so mixed it up and added some flow improver.

[visual knot]

Heartbound update ?!

[quartz shell]

Last update was on the 1st, next update will be next month. Monthly updates. #heartbound message

[silent compass]

1st of the month, every month for over a year. #heartbound or the steam page directly https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/567380/view/653727478219539104

[quartz shell]

@odd musk thoughts?

I should probably use some colour picking software, because I do not trust my eyes.

[odd musk]

It's pretty close. could use something to neutralize a bit more of the yellow. but that could also be my screen and your camera not picking up the true color xD but it's within the range of beige/khaki but on my screen it still looks a tiny bit too yellow. either add a tiny touch of a purple to it, or perhaps a tiny touch of grey, and I mean a TINY TINY amount. That was the hardest part of learning for me, is learning not to add to much at one time because you can always add more but you can't take it away.

[silent compass]

Walk the bottle past it

[odd musk]

what?

[silent compass]

needing a smidge of something

just walk the bottle past it

[odd musk]

oh lol

[golden latch]

Every heard of croix?

[odd musk]

like a lacroix

Hint of hint of lime.

[golden latch]

A hint of a smell of the flavor was added

[silent compass]

some one whispered the name of a fruit 2 towns over

[restive grotto]

A breath of flavor in them lacroix

[dusk cypress]

Lacroix tastes as if someone who made the flavor, had never tasted the flavor before but was described it by a friend.

[restive grotto]

Not even wrong

[quartz shell]

Oh okay, so consistency of skim milk, whiff of fruit two towns over, and run lacroix past it. Got it.

[odd musk]

La croix, this flavor is the flavor of looking at a lemon longingly while stirring the water

[silent compass]

if you wanna go off pantone "khaki"

[golden latch]

https://tenor.com/view/khakis-statefarm-gif-5223419

[vast idol]

Beige and the cooler beige.

[silent compass]

the first one is closer to what most people consider "khaki" when they think of pants

[odd musk]

yes see, just got to tone the yellow a bit out. which is why I suggested a tiny touch of purple because it can also darken it slightly to be khaki on the right

[visual knot]

New animations on some penguins, "working on new ideas" for Oscar. 3 bug fixes and some more ARG puzzles ?

[golden latch]

People dont know about original jake let that sink in

[vast idol]

which one?

[dusk cypress]

Jake. From State Farm.

[golden latch]

The one i posted

[vast idol]

ohhhh.... ||yea no idk that guy||

[odd musk]

remember pigments are subtractive colors. and you can't make every color precisely from mixing pigments. You usually try to get as close as you can with what you have. The more base pigments you gave the closer you can get. also for more natural colors you can use red blue yellow as the colors you can make from that cover more natural colors than CMYK. but if you want a more modern vibrant look CMYK is king

[quartz shell]

Skim milk, two town fruit scent, running lacroix, tail of newt, eye of toad, boil and bubble...

[silent compass]

for this most recent month update, yes. thats 30 days of work. not sure how much work you're expecting a single individual to do in 30 days

[odd musk]

yeah well, she sounds hideous

moths got an update? do they no longer get trapped by lights?

[golden latch]

While doing multiple other tasks at that

[visual knot]

Well those animations are a days work if that.

[silent compass]

several medical emergencies with the ferret resuce

[silent compass]

go do better if you think it's so easy

[odd musk]

Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn and caldron bubble.
Fillet of a fenny snake,
In the caldron boil and bake;
Eye of newt and toe of frog,
Wool of bat and tongue of dog,
Adder's fork and blind-worm's sting,
Lizard's leg and howlet's wing,
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.

[golden latch]

Okay thats fine are you also making a game? we would love to see it. I for one love to see as a dev progresses and watch them grow and learn 😊

[visual knot]

Give me 20 min

[golden latch]

We also have resources for you if you need more help cant wait to see what you make

[odd musk]

Let's see. white marsh-grass, mustard seed, buttercup leaves, tree moss, houndstongue, adder's tongue fern, poppies or knot weed, english ivy stems, and wild garlic flakes. Yeah that concoction definitely will cause a bubbling trouble.

[golden latch]

https://tenor.com/view/the-fairly-odd-parents-vicky-timmy-turner-magic-transform-gif-4265136

[merry jetty]

Only kick stream?

[odd musk]

yea it's Thursday

[golden latch]

Yeah thorsday is normally off day but he is experimenting with kick

[restive grotto]

Yeah, and that'll be the norm on thursday.

[golden latch]

Those looks great are you working on a larger project using those sprites?

[odd musk]

I have been trying to make a ttrpg system. A project that has been on and off again worked on for at least 2 decades now. I keep redoing everything because I keep getting to a point and going this doesn't sound fun. and starting over again

[golden latch]

What parts are you finding not fun?

[odd musk]

I keep making things way to complicated

[golden latch]

Maybe work your way up to that point then like final fantasy did?

[visual knot]

see why I might be disappointed in that update ? I know big drama lately and all but surely that means more time in on gamedev not less.

[silent compass]

I like how you focused on just the artwork and didnt read anything.

[golden latch]

Okay i understand, but why do you care about his game are you making your own and if you are why compare

[restive grotto]

There's far more than just the art to work on, and thor isn't the one doing the art.

And your speed of development isn't everyone's.

[visual knot]

"The ARG has been greatly expanded" "I spent this month working on storyline ideas for them to make them matter a bit more than that" thats the NEW content.

[silent compass]

and he's stated repeatedly that the bulk of what is left for the game is story

you're mad about him working on the story part of a STORY DRIVEN GAME

[visual knot]

Not mad, disappointed that its taking so long.

[silent compass]

there aren't going to be massive huge content updates every month my dude.

[elder jetty]

i dont really see the problem. there was suposed to be an update, there was an update right?

[visual knot]

Disappointed a GRRM too.

[quartz shell]

I can hear this.

[odd musk]

I am currently not at my computer, what is going on?

[golden latch]

Thursday

[elder jetty]

Thorsday

[odd musk]

I know it's Thursday. I meant why are people bringing up heartbound updates?

[golden latch]

They dont think its enough

[elder jetty]

don't they always?

[golden latch]

The norm

[worthy ivy]

flexing poorly proportioned sprites in some sort of gotcha?
I don't understand tbh

[odd musk]

Hey, I pre ordered Kerbal Space Program 2. It can always be worse.

[odd musk]

I thought the sprites were fine

[worthy ivy]

nah, too tall and thin and the idle animation is cheap
someone comes in, complains about heartbound updates and is all "sprites don't take time I can do that"?
I expect their sprites to be banging
if I want low effort sprites I can make my own

I will admit they are better than any people I can draw
I suck at people

I'm just goblining a bit

[fluid dome]

Greetings

[visual knot]

It was a rush job, that was my point man.

And then when it was pointed out he doesn't do that art just the animation is worse.

[worthy ivy]

ik just ribbing you
(get it, cos you're ribbless)
your sprites are fine

[fluid dome]

I have been on a ff9 grind

[visual knot]

Animating a good piece of art is easier.

[fluid dome]

We must protect Vivi at all costs

[golden latch]

Again are you making something or just being angry?

[odd musk]

I can draw hands.

[silent compass]

they also had several medical emergencies at the rescue last month, you think maybe that took priority over pushing out more content?

[golden latch]

[golden latch]

Workslave must work

[visual knot]

Not a game no. Just animating and drawning for the fun of it.

[fluid dome]

Hands are feet for the wrists

[wicked schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-impossible-marvel-shocked-gif-15104180

[elder jetty]

most of the art community probably resents you (kidding)

[frozen sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-elf-buddy-the-elf-throne-of-lies-christmas-gif-1174038786188830953

[silent compass]

I raise you sculpting hands.

[wintry coyote]

what is GRRM? 🤔

[visual knot]

Game of thrones.

[fluid dome]

I see your sculpting hands and I raise you playing games with feet

[wintry coyote]

not sure i follow this train of thought.

[visual knot]

he keeps saying he will finishes the book but its been years

[fluid dome]

Has tbor seen this

[silent compass]

yes

[restive grotto]

If you have issues with someone's game, don't buy it. He's been very vocal of "don't buy the game if it not being done bothers you"

[golden latch]

Some games are decades in development. So why does his speed matter to you really?

[proud depot]

https://klipy.com/gifs/water-balloon-cry-25--k01KRJVNQ4AMC6MG28874SCR70X

not the thoe!

[fluid dome]

You control the games you buy 🤓

[visual knot]

You know the devbloat or storybloat problem.

[worthy ivy]

*laughs maniacally in Duke Nukem Forever

[golden latch]

Oi

[odd musk]

I can show you pictures later

[visual knot]

He says repeatedly its 99% done. next months update and still 99%

[golden latch]

Ever played RuneScape?

[elder jetty]

and?

[visual knot]

So he keeps expanding not focusing the story.

[elder jetty]

and?

[golden latch]

Ah yes burn out on something youre bad at will turn out well

[frozen sonnet]

Yes please!

[restive grotto]

I'm cutting off the heartbound argument. It's no longer constructive and pretty much just ripping into thor now.

[elder jetty]

i jsut dont see the complaint i guess? i dont see how it matters, an update was promised, an update dropped. was something promised for this particular update that wasn't delivered?

[fluid dome]

You could say you are unbounding the heart

[visual knot]

That is not a single story is it though. Same a WOW. Plenty of the expanses have a story from beginning, middle and end.

[golden latch]

Atm they seem to have their own insecurities about dev time otherwise i cant see why they care so much

[silent compass]

Cease

[fluid dome]

Seas and desis

[golden latch]

In runescape the time it takes from 92-99 is twice as long was the point

[silent compass]

Behave or die

[golden latch]

Understood

[visual knot]

I never got that into RS

[fluid dome]

Omg blue haii

[golden latch]

👋

[visual knot]

More WOW and even then stopped after Legion.

[fluid dome]

How is

[golden latch]

Ate food playing thors blockgame server and enjoying various streams having a good time

[fluid dome]

I am become death

[fluid dome]

I'm watching Run and Bun runs in between playing FF9

[elder jetty]

OG 9?

[fluid dome]

Yeah but it's the modern rerelease

[worthy ivy]

nearly went with this one

[golden latch]

Is this a conform or conform joke?

[visual knot]

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-mithrandir-morquendil-greed-black-gif-21069153

[elder jetty]

nice. i should play more FF. i got a late start and havent played many

[worthy ivy]

it wasn't
but that's hillarious

"conform or die"
no...
conform and die

[fluid dome]

My current party ranking:

Vivi = Eiko -> Zidane -> Freya = Quena -> Dagger -> Amarant -> Steiner

[visual knot]

Amarant embodies the idea "throw money at the problem"

[fluid dome]

I was having fun with Eat

[visual knot]

"uuuughhh!"

[fluid dome]

Every new town Quena's mission devolves into being a menace to the locals

[quartz shell]

@rapid scarab

[restive grotto]

Small enough to yeet

[rapid scarab]

I swear

[odd musk]

wait, y'all yeet red around too? you started yeeting me around and it's crazy how you can even lift me

[restive grotto]

Oh good, I was gonna ping and now I don't need to.

[rapid scarab]

I am always here

[blissful imp]

Free Clip! https://kick.com/piratesoftware/clips/clip_01KRJWNB60R7Q7X92KEKDZDAP8

[wicked schooner]

@silent compass

[odd musk]

every cup of water you drink is going to end up as pee and now the data center is being cooled by your pee

[inland bramble]

I hope it rusts out

[quartz shell]

Piss fueled data centers? Sounds like somewhere zultralord would work.
Imagine the smells

https://fxtwitter.com/eternalclassic_/status/2054035455167848455

eternal classic (@eternalclassic_)

look at my backend dev dawg we are cooked

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[wicked schooner]

What a way to "piss" off the AI bros

[elder jetty]

better to be pissed off than pissed on

[junior jasper]

Yes no golden showers here

[glad swift]

==> memodex => ikeaInstruction.png

[glad swift]

"undo the PR damage our datacenters are doing to nature's habitats"

[glad swift]

bezos bottle camping shower heads

[quartz shell]

Gutting data centers and turning them into animal enclosures or undersea reefs for coral would be Based.

[quartz shell]

DO NOT SHOW THIS TO RED.

[blissful imp]

@rapid scarab

[restive grotto]

You all are the worst.

[stoic nexus]

thank you

[rapid scarab]

looks AI let me investigate

[stoic nexus]

https://www.behance.net/gallery/3217633/Whale-Milk

[rapid scarab]

well it doesnt exist

[stoic nexus]

hehe i know but its funny

if only to freak out people xD

https://www.figglesonwhalemilk.com/

[restive grotto]

If it ACTUALLY existed...

I would be done.

[stoic nexus]

this however does look real XD

[rapid scarab]

its like kefir but better

[restive grotto]

That's a brand. You can't milk a whale.

[stoic nexus]

cracks knuckles

i like a challenge

its why i mess with red xD

is it a brand tho 😛

[restive grotto]

I do not believe they milk actual whales.

No.

Nope

[grizzled laurel]

is that... -gasp-.... a stubble?

[blissful imp]

Not with that attitude

[odd musk]

It might just be artifacting from removing the microphone from the image xD

[grizzled laurel]

ghosted mic... makes sense

[vast idol]

wait, the mic ghosted you? thats sad.

[quartz shell]

@rapid scarab

[grizzled laurel]

lol

[rapid scarab]

yeh xD

btw this is my face reveal uwu :

[grizzled laurel]

Just like I imagined

Looked outside huh?

[quartz shell]

Mother.

[rapid scarab]

I am the outside

[grizzled laurel]

möther

[junior jasper]

Mother can i have some cheese

[odd musk]

I hope you know that I have only three deep fears in this world. Cockroaches, depths without seeing the end, and a large amount of eyes just staring at me.

[stoic nexus]

biblically accurate red

[rapid scarab]

you are welcome

[blissful imp]

Good dog pat pat

[rapid scarab]

xD

[junior jasper]

O you have popcorn cernel on there

[split tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-cat-cute-big-eyes-damn-gif-15509085

[quartz shell]

Möther

[grizzled laurel]

"Ey buddy, FOCUS...EYES DOWN THERE"

[odd musk]

So is that like part of your model, or did you just have to edit it?

[quartz shell]

Weird thought, But it reminds me of (obviously the hounds of baskerville from Hellsing) but also Gaiya, the giant devil dingo, which was a dreamtime story we were told as kids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QKyJdAsrj4

So few of these books still remain, the VHS' are even harder to find. They're super rare now. Not many have been preserved or digitized.

[odd musk]

🥛 🧀

[junior jasper]

Yes we need

[wicked schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/chunli-street-fighter-jackie-chan-city-hunter-crossdressing-gif-16733276

Jackie chan as chun li lol

[worthy ivy]

City Hunter!!!!
absolute gem

[quartz shell]

@odd musk Messing around base coating. Trying to regain some brush control. Thumb for scale.

[blissful imp]

6 7

[odd musk]

looking good

[quartz shell]

I had to mix like... camo green, ice yellow, golden yellow, bugmans glow, and warm brown to get it right I think.
So a dark green, a pale yellow and a bright yellow, a maroonish brown, and a dark brown.

[odd musk]

yeah sometimes it takes a bit and a little of a lot of things.

[fluid dome]

Vivi is my son and I shall not hear slander upon his name

[faint creek]

The eyes

[grizzled laurel]

Them feels XD

[wicked schooner]

@restive grotto

[restive grotto]

I am, unfortunately, aware.

[jagged wharf]

why...

[faint creek]

Fear him

[faint creek]

Thube

[quartz shell]

@toxic spruce

[faint creek]

I love how twitch is laying it in with these turbo things and stuff

[restive grotto]

You know they're having a rough time the more they push turbo.

Cause that means they're getting less and less ads.

[quartz shell]

"PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD BUY TURBO!! 🥹 "

[faint creek]

BUY TURBO

[river cargo]

with how much better kick pays, it's hard to see twitch still maintaining a monopoly within a years time

[restive grotto]

If kick can successfully impliment ads? 100%

[faint creek]

I'd support that

[wintry coyote]

assuming people can let go of their presumptions.

personally i dont wish downfall of twitch, i wish the rise of a proper competition to make everyone get off their asses and provide us multiple good platforms.

[restive grotto]

It'd take a bit, but if kick stays the way their going it could happen.

[river cargo]

this will happen

[restive grotto]

And yeah, same

[river cargo]

for example, kick is extremely creator friendly

twitch is extremely creator hostile

as kick takes up more audience from twitch

twitch will loosen up on it's creator hostile policies

[wintry coyote]

yeah. kick is in the right direction. hope it shakes up twitch enough at some point to wake them up.

[restive grotto]

We just have to hope that they loosen up on the RIGHT policies, and not just loosen up on ALL of them.

[wintry coyote]

i just want multiple platforms where i dont need to think if the platform is treating the creator nicely and if people are gonna try to make me feel bad for watching on "THAT" platform.

[odd musk]

I wonder if any of you will get this reference "Department of Natural Resources, Wisconsin division. my 🖕 badge"

[wintry coyote]

firemonkeyforge

[serene valley]

the forge guy

I think he has a forge at least

it's from the one about his pond isn't it

[jolly sky]

Unfortunately people are going to try to make you feel bad for near everything. Platforms, businesses, living areas, charities, food. The best thing you can do is find where your morals lay, and ignore what other people try to make you feel bad about.

Most of the time what they say is performative anyway

[odd musk]

NoPanicButton

[quartz shell]

For future reference and to add to the wiki. https://kick.com/piratesoftware/clips/clip_01KRKERWSPZRXT65H3F90WQX4F

[odd musk]

in the future, when that wiki is the only thing left of our civilization. Future generations will find it and be really confused.

[silent compass]

" why the hell did they obsessively document...insert any random page from wiki"

[west plinth]

good

[odd musk]

So I did a study of La Trahison des images once for class. and then I had to walk through the pouring rain after class and apparently I didn't zip my back all the way up and my sketchbook got soaked and ruined the study. but at least it was graded.

[west plinth]

@minor nymph that's where we get the current stream link from

[odd musk]

does it not just load automatically for you when you open kick? or is that just mean because I bookmarked thor's stream directly?

[west plinth]

the current stream is just kick com/piratesoftware, the question was how we got the vod link for the current stream

so that thor can use his fancy streamerbot tooling to create kick timestamps for TTS

[exotic forge]

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[odd musk]

I guess.

the paranoid part of me thinks they want more emotes uploaded to their site to train AI to make more C.R.A.P.

[silent compass]

@rapid scarab

Lusty argonian maid

[odd musk]

yes

[silent compass]

She's my only anthro doll, and I adore her. She's also extremely rare because the doll maker took orders for about 20 custom dolls, shipped them and then vanished off the face of the planet.

[rapid scarab]

fomg she is lovely xD

love the thing the light does with the colors

[silent compass]

She's got an oil slick over paint cast into her resin

[blissful imp]

you get the money at Affiliate.

people can send bits and so on, but you can't get the money until Affiliate. Twitch does get the money however. its really weird and shady like what Thor has said on stream.

[rapid scarab]

I love those things but lack the space. Too many books.

[boreal flower]

i wonder if ppl can use it to build up a 'balance' and then have that get paid out to them upon reaching Affiliate?

[golden latch]

Is one of those books the lusty argonian maid trilogy by chance?

[serene valley]

oh ew that's weird

[rapid scarab]

you would like to know

[restive grotto]

And that there is the answer to that question.

[silent compass]

I have a bookshelf that's half books, half dolls

We also have a floor to ceeling bookshelf that is all dolls

[west plinth]

you mean you have a dollshelf

[silent compass]

Several

Part of the problem is a lot of the dolls are really big, so they take up a lot of space. Its not that we have a ton of dolls.. we just have a few really large ones

[thick ledge]

my last encounter with THE MOUSE