streamchat

[wheat sleet]

I think DF would have existed anyway, but it would have been much slower at updating. It's the culination of a life's work.

[wicked schooner]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1066642440968212570/1116315666069323826/sigh.gif

[earnest cove]

you'll be surprised how many people take 'donation' as 'investment'

[wicked schooner]

Bruh

[jolly sky]

I'd argue by the meaning of the word, Donations have always been a form of Investment. It may not be for the returns of money, but in returns of well a game, and idea, an action etc

[coarse python]

where?

[wheat sleet]

We used to use the term "donation" when running private servers for Ragnarok Online because calling it payment would have made the transaction illegal

[earnest cove]

#streamchat message <---???

[earnest cove]

ah yes the 'donations' 😛

[jolly sky]

Like if you donate to a charity, the beneficial return would be that the charity does the job they're wanting donations for.

[coarse python]

? im looking for a blog post or something
because last i heard the plan was to update steam and og as one

[earnest cove]

let me go take a look

oh i'm surprised that classic is still being updated

https://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/

because the last kerfuffle i heard in the past was the possibility that they'll shift to steam

are they updating the same game just one with fancy ui? or two separate clients?

in 2023 there was some tension in the community with fears that it would become steam only

[wicked schooner]

As much as i agree with that definition, calling a donation as an investment makes it sound real slimy

[jolly sky]

Eh, I don't personally think the way about it. The way I see it is it's just contextualising the process. There are very rare few times that people will give away money for literally no reason. There's always an expectation somewhere.

[earnest cove]

I personally justr don't want my donation to be misused a.k.a fraud

[nova bough]

a donation to a charity isnt an investment. it wont grow.

[wicked schooner]

For me, a donation is you give money out of good will, while an investment you expect a monetary gain from giving your money

[nova bough]

if you want an investment, there are plenty of those that will give returns

[wheat sleet]

The only way to control how your "donation" is spent is to become one of those dreaded investors that kill AAA gaming

Other than that, pick good people with a track record of success and hope for the best

[nova bough]

i categorize donations as gifts; just for a good cause.

[earnest cove]

I know a tragic story of someone deciding not to donate to charity anymore. The children they sponsored, the whole family, was killed....

South africa village raid.

[jolly sky]

To me a donation can still be an investment and still be 100% done in good will for a good cause, just there may not be an expectation of monetary return. And the charity will grow with your money, by doing the things with the money you donated to them. It's an investment by you in their continued future and goals that you want to see succeed

[nova bough]

i once gave some money to a couple online. i didnt know them too well, but others were also giving too.

turns out they were drug addicts, and one of them OD'd and died.

now i dont give to individuals unless i know them really well, or they've got a legit charity.

[earnest cove]

Gosh taht's horrible sorry to hear that happened

[nova bough]

yeah. i think twice before giving now

[wheat sleet]

Personally I think it's best to donate only to local charities where you can see the impact directly. My favorite is a local no-kill animal shelter

[nova bough]

yeah thats fair

[earnest cove]

and also to not expect a 'return' to that donation, if it's a real donation

kickstarter should technically be an investment/preorder for example

[nova bough]

ive seen a kickstarter be a scam too. it was an office chair, and they made shipping promises

[wheat sleet]

This one does have a "return". You can sponsor an animal and receive monthly updates and pictures, plus a "going home" photo for when they get adopted.

I think it's nice.

[earnest cove]

that's really really nice

[nova bough]

then covid happened...and in the end the shipping ended up being like... 3/4s the cost of the chair? i just called it off when i saw the shipping

[earnest cove]

What happens to cases where nature happens and the poor animal passes from sickness?

[wheat sleet]

I suppose you get that update too.

[earnest cove]

that would be a sad one...

[nova bough]

whats the name of it?

[wheat sleet]

Life happens. Imagine what Thor has to go through losing every single one that comes through the door eventually.

Can't reveal it, doxxing.

It's a local shelter.

[earnest cove]

oh true this is a public discord

better to not mentionm

[jolly sky]

Lmao I remember the awful e-bike that got crowdfunded. Absolutely abysmal piece of shit that got sold on the idea of "re-inventing the wheel" The one thing you're told not to do

[nova bough]

oooh fair

[jolly sky]

It raised several million and it was advertised as "lightweight" among other things. It's frame was built out of solid thick aluminium, and it was not light in the slightest

[earnest cove]

at least Shovel Knight went somewhere. great game.

[earnest cove]

amazingly bad

[nova bough]

by in large kickstarter js good

[wheat sleet]

Kickstarter also sells your information off. I made one investment and got harassed for about a decade after that with tons of other kickstarters that I couldn't care less about.

[jolly sky]

Also its Peddle-assist feature would make it so that if it got a just slight bit of momentum, it could peddle itself and would just take off down the road, uncontrolled

[earnest cove]

did it get sued?

[nova bough]

ew

[earnest cove]

the company or the kickstater?

[coarse python]

I mean it's a lighter metal. Still metal

[wheat sleet]

Kickstarter had to have sold it either internally or it was leaked and they never said anything about it.

I had to add the term "kickstarter" to my spam folder it was so prevalent

[earnest cove]

very eew...

[nova bough]

ew good to know

but also thats becoming annoyingly the norm. i hate it

[earnest cove]

i've not touched my kickstarter in ages hmmm

[wheat sleet]

The entire concept of crowdfunding is not great. It's an investment with no promises, no one to answer to, and delivery is technically optional.

[earnest cove]

now i'm reminded about this man who uses a specific service to get his info off the internet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD6u0N1E-0A

DeleteMe i think

[wheat sleet]

The internet is forever. Sure they can do the legal requests to retrieve and remove your information from compliant sources, but there are plenty of other non-compliant sources that don't answer to authority.

[warped venture]

I've run a Kickstarter before, years ago they were great for artist merch.. Backerkit replaced that overtime though as KS went downhill

[nova bough]

eh, my complaint is that when i sign up for a service i want that service. i dont want them to sell my identity

but thats not something they allow to opt out of

[earnest cove]

was it easy to use?

[nova bough]

ive seen a few board games lately still do well on KS. wasnt aware of the other stuff, minus the occasional failure/scam. but thats kinda the nature of KS

[earnest cove]

i'm gonna grab one that's being accused on being dishonest

[warped venture]

Yeah it was really straightforward! I did a campaign just for some enamel pins so it helped with organizing all the shipping stuff ect

[earnest cove]

that's really cool. i had once considered it but then abandonned the idea because i got nothing to ship out

[warped venture]

Thats totally fair. I basically got a quote upfront then estimated costs for everything, then once I got the funds I had the pins produced
Then shipped out. Manufacturer had estimates on times so was able to have that info all upfront

[earnest cove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPYWkP69pA0

by the way, possible scam, because they used gen AI and advertised that it's human made

[coarse python]

I feel like we somehow started a prophecy by making an economic system behave like a fae

[nova bough]

i... cant respond without being political.

so imma not

[earnest cove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZNpr_a14Iw

how about bread?

[coarse python]

Fair enough I was pushing it

[nova bough]

no worries

[earnest cove]

I never knew a welsh rarebit is literally cheese with toast

i thought it involved real rabbits turned into a pie

[wheat sleet]

I'm pretty sure it was never yellow cheese on square white toast, so there's that.

[nova bough]

i like vegemite cheese toast

[earnest cove]

feed welsh rarebits to the mods

looking at this video, the yelow comes from mustard

[coarse python]

I will throw myself into the borders of the rules like an animal at a zoo into my plexiglass cage /j

[earnest cove]

so it's melted cheese with mustard on toast

[wheat sleet]

That's nuclear yellow; I can only assume modern mustard.

Aka American yellow mustard.

[earnest cove]

powdered mustard did exist in 1890

one of the main spices that ciruclated the americas

[coarse python]

Also cheddar likely adds to the yellow

[earnest cove]

hold on i got the recipe without the time investment of the video

[wheat sleet]

I buy English mustard in powered form and it's not that yellow. It's like... dijon mustard yellow.

[earnest cove]

https://www.tastinghistory.com/recipes/welshrarebit

from this

anything familiar?

Ingredients - 1/2 a lb. of Cheshire or Cheddar cheese, 1 oz. of butter, 2 tablespoonfuls of either milk or ale, 1 teaspoonful of made mustard, hot buttered toast.
Method - Melt the butter in a stewpan, add the cheese cut into small pieces, stir until melted, then add the milk or ale gradually, mustard and season to taste. Have ready some hot-buttered toast, pour the cheese preparation on to it, and serve as hot as possible.”```

the original ye olde version of the recipe

this dish is completely foreign for me

[nova bough]

ale? interesting.

just 2 tbsp, so i guess it doesnt affect much

[earnest cove]

definitely for the flavour. it can be replaced with milk however

the ale will also help the cheese emulsify

[robust galleon]

mustard is the emulsifier

[earnest cove]

oh right that too

i forgot mustard does that

[wheat sleet]

I found a 1747 version of The Art of Cookery on archive.org, looking for the recipe for welsh rarebit

[earnest cove]

Old recipies have a 50/50 chance of "Oh that's why we stopped making it that way" and "Why did we stop making it that way to begin with?"

[robust galleon]

While other old recipes are "What the heck is this measurement in modern times?" because either item mentioned to measure with no longer exists or or is too widely varied in size to know what the recipe writer meant.

[earnest cove]

🤣 and also recipies that count by monetary value

1 penny of XYZ

[robust galleon]

eh, that's a little easier, because inflation calculators exist

[earnest cove]

that's if it's a unit that still translates into inflation calculation

[robust galleon]

true

[earnest cove]

1 chinese silver tael of something is really a headscratcher

the man's cheddar cheese is nuclear yellow

very american

[robust galleon]

it's the annatto that American cheddar its color

[earnest cove]

it's one of those trademark colourings of certain cheddars especially american ones

colby jack is really nice too

[robust galleon]

American dairy cows don't get the rich diversity of plants that other countries give their cows.

[earnest cove]

aaah

so that was the reason

[wheat sleet]

Found it

[earnest cove]

eyyy it's the original original

[wheat sleet]

Very very original

[earnest cove]

so original they had the s before the s was invented

[wheat sleet]

Completely unspecified; basically whatever you had on hand

[earnest cove]

the f iwthout a dash is an s. it confused me at first before it was explained

specifically the small s

[wheat sleet]

NGL the English rarebit sounds fire. Soak it in wine

[robust galleon]

so it was an open face grilled cheese sammy

[earnest cove]

yup

[forest glacier]

What the heck is going on in this channel

[robust galleon]

talking about old old recipes

[earnest cove]

cleansing drama with ye olde recipies

[forest glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/oaky-okay-ok-meme-typo-oakley-gif-1135585561201001219

[wicked schooner]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/235864439579082752/1492902240665473055/Tumblr_l_26981680895279.gif

Bnuuy

[earnest spire]

a simulacrum

[gray fable]

the usual

[lament sun]

anybody got the timestamp to the VoD where the dragon attacked the fortress ?

[earnest spire]

We just need another ! command

[rapid scarab]

I bring this song today https://youtu.be/rbFaVDfkI00?is=yckV7uaZkBioscgC

tis is the same band ^^ https://youtu.be/nsFTwSydmcI?is=QribD9YfKFI1Le_M

[rapid scarab]

hope everything is ok

[vernal stone]

I am sure Thor is fine and not a Were-Donkey.

[coarse python]

just one more ! command trust me bro just one more ! and we'll fix traffic trust me bro just one more ! command /j

[earnest spire]

Just a filter for trolls/tourist

[fleet rune]

[rapid scarab]

my hope is he got hooked to vampire crawlers and didnt slept

[swift star]

I didn't realize my demo save carried to the main game. o_o

I just started the game and unlocked 49 cheevos.

[rapid scarab]

yeeeh

game is rad

[proud depot]

Probably just needs a break, hes has a lot of long days recently

[rapid scarab]

yeh I bet

I hope he doesnt stream tomorrow and get a long weekend

I will be very if he does

[rapid scarab]

(deleted the thing because even if its cool to try to guess the place with wildlife photos, some of them were of very gory dead animals for some reason, probably weird API)

[blissful imp]

A lotta people missed the joke or didn't watch all the way through. https://fixupx.com/itotweets_/status/2046527078636433696

I'm pretty sure i made the same joke in Thors chat during the PRAGMATA stream.

Jorge Constantini (@itotweets_)

can't believe it @maximilian_

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FixupX · Apr 21, 2026, 9:50 AM

[river cargo]

This tbh

Also I hope thor can get a stream in tomorrow personally, but I understand if he is tired and what not

[civic vector]

Any idea what's happened, another ferret rescue case?

[river cargo]

nobody knows I think

[civic vector]

Aye, though as mentioned elsewhere, I may spool up a Kick account
However, I do agree if he's hitting burnout, good idea to take tomorrow off as well

[tender field]

Tomorrow is Thorsday, so it's already a day off...

[rapid scarab]

yeh

he better take it

[civic vector]

Exactly

But he's made comments about doing Kick streams on Thursday ...

[rapid scarab]

yeh, at least to check the revenue difference between exclusive stream and multi stream

[blissful imp]

Thor did say last week in the kick chat that the thursday kick exclusive streams would start this week.

plans can change tho, it was suppose to be last week

[snow salmon]

Ive seen some good come out of kick multistreaming, I just worry about the community that platform caters to.

Has he done kick stream before? (I dont catch many streams cause of work schedule , but im willing to check it out)

[blissful imp]

he's been multistreaming to kick since April 1st. first stream was a 24h stream.

Thursdays are gonna be Kick exclusive streams as Kick takes away 50% revenue when you multistream.

Also Thor is really unhappy with Twitch's direction atm. he said in the kick chat last week he's not going to Twitch con EU this year.

he even setup a club account and is promoting club.com which is kick's twitter alternative.

[snow salmon]

Sick. Fair on the multistreaming thing. And also fair on the Twitch thing. Im kinda a YT lurker, so im a bit outa the loop on some stuff.

Glad its working out.

[rapid scarab]

tbf, twitch community in general is no better this days

[blissful imp]

Also the ferrets are on kick as well. the ferret stream in Q1 of 2026 made 12.3 cents per hour per viewer

[rapid scarab]

kick for now is smaller than yt, and sometimes weirdos appear but not as many as yt or twitch

bits are cheaper than in twitch too, and streamer gets more % of each sub or bit

[blissful imp]

Kick is way smaller than both tbf. but youtube dwarfs both when it comes to streaming

[rapid scarab]

yep

[blissful imp]

but that's because youtube in general is huge. anyone knows about youtube.

For Twitch only 2 things that i can think of are Fortnite and Ninja.

For Kick most people would know them for an F1 team

[rapid scarab]

yeh probably

I dont think kick is perfect but I feel gross with the decisions twitch is making lately

and youtube stream is usually a funnel for people that just watched the most recent dramatuber to go be annoying

[snow salmon]

No platform is perfect. Sadge

[blissful imp]

idk if its a perma ban, but twitch did ban the accout of that d4vd guy. https://twitter.com/StreamerBans/status/2046609436001575188

StreamerBans (@StreamerBans)

❌ Twitch Partner "d4vd" has been banned! ❌

https://t.co/AQZQs5Cguw
#twitch #ban #firstban #partner #twitchpartner 📲

X · Apr 21, 2026, 3:18 PM

[rapid scarab]

no idea who he is

[blissful imp]

i hate that this reply is correct

[rapid scarab]

but they always unban people that has enough numbers

yeh that

they are becoming old kick

[river cargo]

D4vd is the guy who was arrested for murder

[rapid scarab]

ah yeh

I give him a month tops

they will unban him

[river cargo]

I think switching to kick would be good but so many people, myself included, have points saved up on twitch lol

[rapid scarab]

tts is 2k on kick

[river cargo]

But people have thousands, if not millions saved already on twitch

[blissful imp]

uhh. he is a rapper.

||and he's currently going to jail(and possibly a death sentence) for murdering a woman. i believe she was a minor and he was dating her. she was found in the trunk of his Tesla as there was a smell coming from the trunk.||

[rapid scarab]

ok yeah

bet he can stream from jail

I mean twitch already has gambling category, crypto category

gambling adds

[blissful imp]

||or from hell if he gets the death sentence||

[rapid scarab]

so I dont see twitch and kick that different rn

at least kick is better for the streamer

[blissful imp]

i mean you can still stream gambling on Twitch, just not actual casino gambling. i believe its Sports betting and video game gambling, and card opening, etc.

[rapid scarab]

yeh but still gambling

[blissful imp]

i know. was about to say its all the same, but companies really only see casino gambling as bad.

[river cargo]

Ngl kick does seem like the future of streaming

[rapid scarab]

well they need to make enough money to not depend of stake

[blissful imp]

once they get ads yea.

not rn with how much money they're losing

[rapid scarab]

they might sink all the same, but for now I think its better

also, 7tv works on kick

[blissful imp]

its suppose to but not for me. well emotes don't.

[rapid scarab]

yeh, I have seen people have clucky experiences

[blissful imp]

other 7tv features work on kick

[rapid scarab]

also there are not a lot of bots or addons dor kick, and its often left out

and app is kinda scuffed

but for the most part they are doing a good job

[blissful imp]

its been the same for twitch when it comes to mobile apps. the twitch app has always been not a good time for watching streams.

[rapid scarab]

yeh thas most things really, its not good on kick but somehow is better than twitch

[wheat sleet]

Hot take, companies push mobile apps so you can't block the ads.

[subtle gate]

hot take all mobile games are trash

[snow salmon]

YouTube is a big one. Shorts experience on web sucks

[wheat sleet]

There's a way to manipulate the url so web shorts dont show all that extra garbage overlay

[kindred sedge]

Ye just replace shorts with watch in the url

[blissful imp]

well that's because Shorts and Tiktok weren't made for desktop

[blissful imp]

you can also get a browser extension which automatically does this.

[snow salmon]

Thats cool to know.

Gonna have to get that

[blissful imp]

here's the browser extension i use for youtube. it has that said feature and you can disable and basically improve youtube by a lot.

Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/control-panel-for-youtube/

Chrome: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/control-panel-for-youtube/lodcanccmfbpjjpnngindkkmiehimile?pli=1

[worthy ivy]

kick kicks ass from a tech stack end
it's solid as a rock

rumble flakes
youtube sucks....

kick kicks ass

[rapid scarab]

tbf having the same back from amazon as twitch, kick is better on that aspect

[wheat sleet]

It's probably just handling less load on more hardware

[rapid scarab]

there is no errors, less lag and better sound and video

twitch is also a mess holded up with tape and clips in the back end

[wicked schooner]

Can you give me a link for this? Cus I remember on stream he was messaging his partner manager about him getting ready to go to twitchcon EU

[wheat sleet]

I remember hearing him say he wasn't going to Twitchcon on stream, but I don't remember when

[quartz sonnet]

Same, he stated he wasn't planning on going to Twitchcon EU

[blissful imp]

he said it in the chat at the very start of last weeks thursday stream. would be hard to link as it wasn't on the actual stream.

in kick chat

[wheat sleet]

Twitch vods save the chat for a while but not sure about kick vods

[blissful imp]

there is a chat replay. however it happens at the very start of the stream. https://kick.com/piratesoftware/videos/4dc874ae-7d9c-4841-96ad-0a8ed8e0d460

as in the conversation where thor ends up saying he's not going to twitchcon EU

[rapid scarab]

yeah, after what happened on lasts twitch cons I am not surprised he doesnt want to endorse them

also, is expensive

[blissful imp]

well because twitch is going in a bad direction. what thor said in the chat in that vod above

[rapid scarab]

yeh

[wheat sleet]

Round trip flight to EU ain't cheap, plus hotel, food, transportation, extra pay for ferret care, etc.

[rapid scarab]

yep

worse case they have a twitchcon over there too

I never understood why people go, like

best part is meeting other people irl

but for that you dont need to pay twitch

again

[wheat sleet]

As a streamer there's a huge benefit to networking with other industry professionals, but as a viewer... dunno, excuse to party maybe?

[rapid scarab]

you can network without giving them money

[subtle gate]

I wouldn't know where else to meet people

[rapid scarab]

and is not cheap either

[wicked schooner]

Found the msg. Thanks 👍

[rapid scarab]

yeh

bet renting a venue between all asistants would be cheaper than the ticket

[blissful imp]

Here's this btw on the Kick Thursday streams

[wicked schooner]

Yup saw that as well

Damn\

[blissful imp]

Also, Mirror doesn't like Red

[wicked schooner]

Is Kick's mobile app better that twitch's?

[wheat sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/inquisition-monty-python-spanish-inquisition-walk-in-gif-17117394

[wicked schooner]

I cant press on peoples names anymore on twitch chat

[rapid scarab]

I get very confused with thor being red on kick too tbf

but thas his choice

[blissful imp]

i think its so he doesn't blend in with kick. because kick is green

[rapid scarab]

if you back a stream and then in again some chat dissapears and need to restart the app

but its good enough

[fleet rune]

That... Would make sense, yep

[rapid scarab]

fair, he can be red too I allow it

[fleet rune]

And Kick weirdly doesn't count as a "video" playing on mobile, so you can play other stuff at the same time without it automatically pausing? Which is neat, but seems like a bug

Would love if they kept that "bug", though lol

[rapid scarab]

you can have both running on the phone

easy

[fleet rune]

The audio doubles, but it does work

[rapid scarab]

yeah but kick you can mute

before your brain explodes with the audio delay

[wicked schooner]

On twitch web I can click on a trolls name and block them
On twitch mobile for some reason its loads infinitely and end with an error even with good internet

[rapid scarab]

because its ass

[wicked schooner]

asd?

Oh

lol

[rapid scarab]

phone and also bus sorry xF

[wicked schooner]

We all have fat fingers lol

[rapid scarab]

but yeah kick app has issues but not as many as twitch

[subtle gate]

https://tenor.com/view/the-letter-h-spinning-man-letter-gif-24584770

[rapid scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/h-my-beloved-my-beloved-gif-20195191

[wicked schooner]

I'll install the app and see if its better than twitch's

[rapid scarab]

I think the best word for it is lightweigh

does its job

no extra bs

[wheat sleet]

No ads, wins by default

[rapid scarab]

thats true

it was supposed to rain today

[terse pelican]

Don't you see the UV Ray Rain?

[fierce plinth]

UV Rayn*

[rapid scarab]

listen here rains most of the year

I am ok with it

[terse pelican]

Honestly, I don't mind rain most of the time, Unless it's that dumb acidic rain stuff

[fierce plinth]

it's not rain that's the problem, but what reigns and how much

rains*

like count your chickens before they hatch for that's the only solace you'll have once felines and canines begin descension from the mothership

[rapid scarab]

so you understand I live on some km of land between the see and mountains

so we get A LOT of rain

everything here is on a slope

[wicked schooner]

...for now

[fierce plinth]

so you've been delta lot of rain

[wheat sleet]

When ads are implemented, this year, it will be pip ads instead of full screen, and the partner payments will continue in addition to ad revenue

[wicked schooner]

If they add ad controls to streamers just like twitch did, thats a plus on my book

[rapid scarab]

twitch needs control over them just because how invasive they are

[carmine sierra]

Hey, been out for a bit
Someone in another server said Thor's mod team just quit, is there any validity to that?

[wheat sleet]

Hello theer drama farmer

[carmine sierra]

Nah, not trying to farm drama

[wicked schooner]

forest is still here

[river cargo]

U joined today lol

[carmine sierra]

Tried checking Khronos' page, but there's nothing

[wheat sleet]

Don't feed the drama farmers

[carmine sierra]

Rejoined
I was here for a while ever since the SKG stuff happened, then left for a bit

As far as I can find, there's nothing about it on Thor or Khronos' pages, and nothing in any announcements

[lapis flame]

they arent saying anything

[rapid scarab]

so if you were out why do you care?

[carmine sierra]

Because it got brought up out of nowhere in another server, and now I'm trying to validate or disprove the claim

[rapid scarab]

well we do have moderationn

[river cargo]

it is just 1 mod left of the original 12-13

[carmine sierra]

I still follow Thor on YouTube, just haven't had time for streams for a while

Alright, thanks

[rapid scarab]

seems some of the servers you are on have people trying to start drama tho

be careful

[river cargo]

13 counting nelas as a partial mod

[carmine sierra]

Yeah, it's one particular guy in another server that keeps trying to bring it up

[rapid scarab]

good for you to come ask, sorry we are a little grumpy with all the hate wave

tis been like... two years now, of non stop

[carmine sierra]

Nah, I get it, I was inadvertently part of it back during SKG and now realize what it looks like again

That's on me

[rapid scarab]

yeh, welcome back

[wheat sleet]

I don't buy the story. If you haven't had time to catch part of a 12 hour stream that happens 5-6 days a week, you just don't want to be here.

[carmine sierra]

Dude I've talked to you several times before

I'm not exactly a new face around here

[wicked schooner]

Yeah, I was kinda confused why you guys were being hostile

[carmine sierra]

I watch the shorts and the pants mostly
I don't like dropping in halfway through a stream, especially when I have a ton of other stuff to watch and audiobooks I still need to work through

[rapid scarab]

he said he make like a video updates thing

*might make

[wheat sleet]

This is why

[rapid scarab]

you can come around say hello, we ok with it :3 most people lurk anyways

[carmine sierra]

Yeah, I was in a pissy mood that day, and I apologize

That's on me as well

[earnest mirage]

Where thor lives he streams from midnight to noon. Most people sleep an then go to work in that time zone during the stream. East coast is like 3 hours ahead but mostly still working. No idea about drago's timezone, just saying even with 12 hours most of those timezones cant watch it live.

[carmine sierra]

It's not even only a timing thing, I just tend away from streams in general

[rapid scarab]

fair

[carmine sierra]

In brighter news
After being out of work for the past two months, I got a job offer starting a week from Monday
Have to pass a Sec+ certification tomorrow for it, but this will be my second time doing so, shouldn't be too bad
The new job pays 8k a year more than my old one right off the bat, and includes a 5k bump after a three-month entry period
So hey, getting fired was a bit of a blessing in disguise

Not looking forward to learning a new codebase all over again too much, and I do feel bad for my coworkers at the old job
But honestly, I'm glad to be away from some of the management there

[wicked schooner]

Ayyyyyyy Good luck on sec+

[carmine sierra]

I'm watching through a refresher course someone put up on YouTube, so hopefully that helps

[silent compass]

We being civil in here?

[lapis flame]

i guess mostly?

[wheat sleet]

Dealer's choice

[carmine sierra]

Ye

[thick ledge]

[earnest spire]

https://tenor.com/view/5-gif-4752667077091471880

[terse pelican]

We're always being as civil as goblins can be

[carmine sierra]

[terse pelican]

<@&1489742543662092439>

And another unfortunate soul

[quartz sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-gif-5057861

[wicked schooner]

Dw chat mom
Everythings alright here

[forest glacier]

I’m gonna second the sentiment, as a 2+ year sub, that it was completely baseless to start attacking you for the question. Props for keeping a level head through that, you’re less touchy than me

[earnest cove]

Nvm Tumblr just gonna kill itself again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-VJPr_kjU4

they want to remove the thing that made tumbrl great in the first place: the engagement

[carmine sierra]

Granted I didn't leave on the best of terms, so I kinda get it

[forest glacier]

I mean how do they expect people to come to a sane resolution about this stuff if the first response is always

lol

(I still shit-fling at super blatant trolls in Twitch chat, but it’s a practice you have to be very careful with to not direct it towards people undeserving)

[wicked schooner]

Im glad betterttv has a blocked keywords feature tbh

Dont need to see those troll questions on twitch in the first place

[opal bronze]

i just popped back in after like 6 months what da hellll

[vivid maple]

so this mod thing is really happened?

sorry been out of the loop

[minor nymph]

Oh hai.

[rapid scarab]

heyo, who are you

[minor nymph]

Some dork.
Writing an announcement

[rapid scarab]

ah well, you are welcome then

[arctic needle]

No bread here

[rapid scarab]

we are all dorks here

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-bart-simpson-join-us-sit-here-gif-15631014

[rapid scarab]

all the bread

[arctic needle]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-dodge-neo-gif-13288848

[rapid scarab]

I am happy I did the thing on kick and went better than expected 😄

but doing 5h after working 9 maybe wasnt the smartest thing to do

I am utterly destroyed

[minor nymph]

Not quit.
Writing announcement.

[carmine sierra]

[minor nymph]

It's just online narrative shit instead of just asking me directly.

[serene valley]

Fired

Out of a cannon

For comedic purposes

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-cannon-cannonball-fired-from-gif-7993680603141299036

[carmine sierra]

I figured as much, it's why I came back here to ask

[serene valley]

Obviously joking as I don't know shiz

[arctic needle]

Internet be wildin'

[wheat sleet]

Asking would kill all the drama clicks

[minor nymph]

Good on you for doing so honestly.
Tons of weird comment cleanup on YouTube atm.

[carmine sierra]

[rapid scarab]

of course they are twisting it

they need the views

[ashen pier]

Yeah... I saw twitter BS pop up and poked my head in too. Stupid

[serene valley]

Rumor mill will mill

And be stoobid

[rapid scarab]

I mean, they dont have anything, so they have to make up shit

[serene valley]

Anyway shower

https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-water-cute-cat-shower-cat-gif-27550509

[rapid scarab]

go unstinky yourself

[serene valley]

Stinky

[wheat sleet]

Restinky yourself

[quartz sonnet]

Anything For Content™

[arctic needle]

Be stinky and proud

[rapid scarab]

I am currently doing me some grilled cheese and a side of cherry tomato salad

https://tenor.com/view/grilled-cheese-sandwich-cheesy-cheese-food-gif-23868674

[quartz sonnet]

Ooo. It's been a long time since I've done Grilled Cheese. I may do that for dinner

[rapid scarab]

pro tip: put a little black pepper in the cheese

[distant quiver]

Pretty much it. Rent must be due soon.

[quick rapids]

The drama llama has been fed, and it is rabid.

[rapid scarab]

dudes are coming here with shit thats 2 years old I mean

thats how pathetic it is

[quick rapids]

i kinda "awww, bless" some of the people bringing up the old stuff... like, you're a year + too late to jump on that train, bless you!

[distant quiver]

Yeah because they know who will come in and slurp it up. It's exhausting playing whack a mole when drama channels come up again.

[rapid scarab]

tbf I have seen a concerning number of people on the internet desperate to find someone who tell them what to think and do

[distant quiver]

Yeah same here

[gray fable]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-lick-mlem-cute-funny-gif-25264237

[wheat sleet]

@grok how do I feel about this?

[rapid scarab]

well, people like that is easier to manipulate and use

[golden latch]

Tale as old as time

[minor nymph]

Announcement out

No more rumor mill

[quartz sonnet]

Cruses, I have no ham. Cheese will suffice!

[thick ledge]

Glad we did an announcement about it, now people won't be debating in here about it anymore

[rapid scarab]

you did the best you could given the circunstances

[wheat sleet]

Need a !command or something to direct people to it that ask, even if temporarily

[rapid scarab]

and community will try our best to give you the least ammount of work

[indigo wadi]

tbh, rumours are always going to persist, but it's good to have something mentioned

[rapid scarab]

I will make sure of it

[thick ledge]

Well we have something to point to now

[quartz sonnet]

Thanks for putting up an announcement for it, no more speculation is the best outcome

[thick ledge]

Rather than saying we can't say

[rapid scarab]

yeh

[forest glacier]

PiratePally ftw

[rapid scarab]

honestly, only thing is

[balmy bone]

Thanks for speaking out about the mod situation. My feed suddenly got filled with random videos about it.

I hope all is well my good sir, and good luck with it all.

[rapid scarab]

can we give hobgoblins bread

[indigo wadi]

I did see something mentioned a couple of nights ago, but I've no idea if that simply came from a place of anger or what

[wheat sleet]

No bread for the hobgoblins, but extra glue is fine

[quick rapids]

I have one question.

Can the Hobgoblins have bread?

[heavy spire]

Can we mill other things now? Grain perhaps? To make bread?

[rapid scarab]

if we donate bread they have to get it

[quartz sonnet]

The real important questions

[balmy bone]

We can go back to milling cards?

[gray fable]

the mods get bread, the hobgoblins get... deviled eggs?

[rapid scarab]

thor cant touch it

no thats thor

[wheat sleet]

Thor will eat you if you eat the eggs, just small warning

[minor nymph]

I will eat those eggs

[golden latch]

Here we mill ore and troll ashes when they get ash babied by the hobs

[thick ledge]

Tbh if I wasnt a hobgob I still would have asked to help

I care too much about the community to not wanna help

[arctic needle]

Thor smells of egg farts

[shadow spade]

We will give all the deviled eggs to the hobgoblins and none to Thor until the moderators can have bread

[undone dragon]

Question : can someone apply as a mini-mod but for one of the subsections only?

[whole mirage]

The people that said thor couldn't afford this are going to come out of the woodwork and shout gotcha now >.>

[rapid scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-office-dwight-schrute-egg-gif-25032549

[balmy bone]

it's probably server wide 🙂

[carmine sierra]

Yeah, I imagine the narrative is just going to change rather than go away

[gray fable]

the bread bit doesn't really work for hobgobs because they don't get paid (yet? don't mean to cause offense). the joke needs to be something else

[quick rapids]

appreciate the clarity of the announcement, as sucky as it had to have been to write.

[wheat sleet]

It won't change

[river island]

That poor chair around easter

[thick ledge]

And that's fine tbh as long as it's based in truth

[undone dragon]

I jsut don't like to assume and Thor was active in chat a minute ago, worth asking the question

[gray fable]

they get chairs

[carmine sierra]

That is also an option

[brisk sparrow]

same.

[shadow spade]

It amazes me that the sad people chasing clout by ragging on Thor are still at it

[thick ledge]

Hobgoblins will get a donation link later

[winter sierra]

thor you should look at ferretchat no reason

[whole mirage]

guess it still makes them ad $

[quick rapids]

can we call it the Greggs Fund?

[thick ledge]

Yes

[rapid scarab]

what if I donate water salt and flour

[wheat sleet]

No yeasat?

[thick ledge]

I will eat each individual ingredient

[rapid scarab]

they can do sourdough

[thick ledge]

Matzo

[rapid scarab]

hahahaha

[indigo wadi]

The only thing that strikes me as odd is the sudden disassociation from Khronos. Having such a close friendship to nothing at all is wild. I at least hope everything is okay there.

[thick ledge]

There was no time to let it rise

[arctic needle]

I am donating butter

[thick ledge]

And or we had no yeast

[wheat sleet]

I'm donating bathwater

[rapid scarab]

yeast is for the weak

[river island]

I owe Forest Starburst lol

[quick rapids]

is it used?
asking for a friend

[balmy bone]

unless Khronos says something, its a nothing-burger.

[rapid scarab]

human soup

[wheat sleet]

Used costs more

[thick ledge]

Thier social life is thier buisness

-shrug-

[balmy bone]

exactly

[quick rapids]

^this

[heavy oriole]

Unfortunately once people find a target to hate on and get a narrative in their head (especially when it makes them ad $) they can't see that person in a good light. Once they jump on the bandwagon of hate they just keep searching for reasons to hate.

[indigo wadi]

Yeah I know.

[gray fable]

you all get to witness thor's new outfit in tomodachi life. im posting the shenanigans in #thorchan if you want to see the other things his mii counterpart has done

[thick ledge]

Tomodachi thor continues to he cursed

[indigo wadi]

My brain is just wonky with stuff

[gray fable]

Im waiting for the clothes shop to give me a banana suit

[boreal flower]

the shoes are cute tho

[whole mirage]

Surprised the ad rev from 2 kick streams, 2 twitch streams and 2 youtube streams haven't been enough, though I will admit to not knowing a damn thing about how much that actually makes. Damn shame for the mods. I hope that the ferrets are going to be okay regardless of this as well

[thick ledge]

Well ferret income is for the ferrets

[wheat sleet]

Just look at the veternary cost for a single ferret. That's where the money goes.

[indigo wadi]

ad revenue is nowhere near as high as subs

[brisk sparrow]

yep, ferret stream money goes right back into the ferrets

[rapid scarab]

yeh

[thick ledge]

Thor has always been more transparent about he's running things then most streamers

[rapid scarab]

and yt dont monetize ferret streams

[gray fable]

tomodachi thor got scanned by the pawn shop last night

[indigo wadi]

and sub revenue has gone down due to the drama stuff from last year

[rapid scarab]

yeh

[wheat sleet]

YT just hates ferrets

[rapid scarab]

we are way less than 2 years ago

[thick ledge]

D:

[rapid scarab]

overall

[thick ledge]

Why yt hate ferret

[rapid scarab]

yt just jealous

[split tulip]

because yt is yt, and yt is the worst

[wheat sleet]

Because ferrets eat whatever powers YT servers?

[brisk sparrow]

yt hate 24 hour stream i think

[gray fable]

whats wrong with pot hats, shaye?

[earnest cove]

we got the answer about the missing mods now

[thick ledge]

There's monetized streams on YouTube that are just 1hr video of a guy killing iron golem on loop

[split tulip]

last I heard they could not montize because they did not have enough watch hours on yt. live don't count

[shadow spade]

Basically everyone else I watch on youtube manually resets their stream every ten hours or so when they do 24 hour events, is there no way to automate that for Youtube?

[warped venture]

on YT, the channel has to have a certain amount of watched hours before the ferret stream can be monetized

[craggy flame]

yee, the streams dont count towards watched hours and the channel is yet to reach the threshhold for montization, or something like that

[balmy bone]

money is often the first reason for everything that happens

[rapid scarab]

pot hat is at least +3 armor

[minor nymph]

Lives don't count for whatever reason yes.

[thick ledge]

Watch pants

[wheat sleet]

Yes but the ferret stream has orders of magnitude more hours than required

[golden latch]

Not letting them partner cause not enough “watch hours”

[rapid scarab]

pants where

[undone dragon]

Sorry for the ping/re asking but seems to have gotten lost in the flood. Question : can someone apply as a mini-mod but for one of the subsections only?

[thick ledge]

On thors channel

[earnest cove]

i did suspect it's funding related

[thick ledge]

Watch hours are from pants

[quick rapids]

Let me guess... YT don't know why, and can't figure out how to fix that.

[thick ledge]

So watch pants

[split tulip]

we need ferret pants

[minor nymph]

The ferret stream not being monetized is a result of lives generally not counting.

It's insane really.

[rapid scarab]

yeah

and they wont fix it

[dusky grove]

Opening up positions for community moderators... I wonder if I'd be a good fit for that considering my topics of conversation.

Unless I'm misunderstanding it and you're not looking for any more beyond zaf and mirror. How do people apply?

[wheat sleet]

Get Shaye in there with a handheld and do some dook pants

[minor nymph]

YouTube has said that it's not intended and then did nothing.

[brisk sparrow]

classic

[rapid scarab]

yeah as they do

[thick ledge]

If they're looking for more hobs and want public apps they'll do a news post

[rapid scarab]

yeh

[wheat sleet]

YT support is just a bunch of Daleks in a server room

[shadow spade]

Set up some way to reset the stream every eight hours to cut it into vods (there are auto-failover settings so that streamwatchers are redirected automatically). That would leave 8-hour vods up that people can toss on in the background to drive up watch hours

[dusky grove]

I see. I just misunderstood one of the final paragraphs

[split tulip]

can we have some "playtime with Henry" or other ferrets as vids on the ferret channel? then you could get some vod views

just stream vods basically, no editing

[thick ledge]

Someone would have to edit them

[shadow spade]

Just resetting the stream before each playtime would help, I think

[minor nymph]

We have shorts on that channel actually.

[gray fable]

youtube and discord have the same thing going on, adding or removing features without fixing things first

youtube*

[gray fable]

not thor

[thick ledge]

Lol

[balmy bone]

Good luck with everything and sorry you've got more drama coming your way.

[split tulip]

shorts not counting?

[brisk sparrow]

helluva freudian slip there

[minor nymph]

Not really more drama.

[minor nymph]

They do but separately.

[thick ledge]

Same drama

[wheat sleet]

Exact same drama for 2 years

[muted robin]

monetization is based on either long form or short form content views, you can fulfill either one

[thick ledge]

Thor has switch tts is typing

[rapid scarab]

do you thing if I have ferret twitch, kick and yt vods at the same time my computer will explode

[thick ledge]

Yes but worth

[muted robin]

as someone who refuses to use twitch i hate that my support via youtube does basically nothing by comparison

[distant quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-get-to-work-gif-21630516

[thick ledge]

I just think it's cool that the people who are here want to support

[split tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/unreal-unreal-engine-computer-smoking-computer-smoking-gif-24575019

[arctic needle]

Gasp, Thor's AI legs took the mods wages :0

[muted robin]

it's not thor's fault but i am still very :/ that youtube has done basically nothing to make itself a viable competitor to twitch

[craggy flame]

probably, i actually had to stop keeping the noodle cats open because twitch performs so poorly on this machine

[rapid scarab]

ah tis ok I will just download more gpu ram

[thick ledge]

Nice to see other people care for the community

[indigo wadi]

you can just have it playing in the background and muted

[gray fable]

hte main difference between tomodachi life thor and the real thor is only one of them has legs

[golden latch]

Did you hear about the change to youtube lives that made it even worse

[rapid scarab]

I love to support, and steal livers. But mostly support ^^

[quick rapids]

maybe if you put them all on the crappiest quality? that shouldn't make your computer go boom

[brisk sparrow]

i been here 7, almost 8 years years (haha funny), would be like a part of me dying if anything happened IMO

[rapid scarab]

time to check

[craggy flame]

science

[rapid scarab]

my dinner is cold because all of this

[thick ledge]

It does me good to remember that while the stream has gotten smaller, it's still 10x bigger than before

[rapid scarab]

I hope you are proud I am eating cold grilled chees3

[quick rapids]

my crappy laptop managed Kick and YT streams at the same time before it's RAM upgrade... I believe!

[thick ledge]

Good red, suffer

[wheat sleet]

At full res or did you downgrade to 160p?

[azure knoll]

Read this as Hobs like ferrets

[forest glacier]

Do not blame chat for this

[shadow spade]

Just one decent length vod being up on the Youtube channel would probably fix the watched hours thing, if we all just toss that on and go to sleep.

[rapid scarab]

thats why are we here. This is home and we will defend it

[thick ledge]

I mean to be fair you would also do a news post for that

[azure knoll]

I mean yeah I'll take more Hobs, I love gross little silly guys

[rapid scarab]

we kinda are

[brisk sparrow]

It seems to me theres the same number of viewers (though i didnt really pay attention too much), but chat and TTS has slowed down significantly for sure

[quick rapids]

480... bc i also do other stuff on it

[shadow spade]

The problem is, there are no vods, because the channel doesn't do resets to cut the stream into voddable chunks

[split tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/snowing-christmas-animated-gif-10600400

[azure knoll]

Hopefully not like that

[split tulip]

hobs

[thick ledge]

Streams I think peaked at nearly 15k

But back in the day they were at like 300

[limpid cloak]

Already doing it, even playing on background and my pc far away from medium, trick is just set quality of streams at 360p

[winter sierra]

some of the vods count when they arent the full length

[thick ledge]

So 3000 is still x10

[rapid scarab]

[wheat sleet]

But there are any more mouths (ferrets) to feed

[brisk sparrow]

there are times when I wish it could go back to that, but i'm still happy that it happened at all.

[rapid scarab]

we got a couple more lately that when it was peak drama, I think

[minor nymph]

2-3k yep.

[forest glacier]

8-10k WAS a thing, can’t gaslight TwitchTracker, and it was sustained for a while, not single instances. All things considered 2-3k isn’t even that bad and is way more than he had before shorts blew up in the first place

[minor nymph]

I don't actually know what the true peak of the stream was tbh.
We hit 200k at one point due to viewbots.
No idea what numbers were even real.

[rapid scarab]

yeh that mess up metrics

[thick ledge]

That's true kind of impossible to tell what the real number really was

[brisk sparrow]

also that. the numbers are filled with viewbotting so its hard to tell what the peak actually was

[rapid scarab]

I remember it being around 3k when I first landed here

[earnest cove]

viewbots are still around too

[winter sierra]

it seems when the vods are cut short they get saved and THEN it counts??

[shadow spade]

8-10k was during the height of OnlyFangs, I think.

[rapid scarab]

but was barely 2 years ago

[thick ledge]

I still think 3k is super respectable, the highest viewers on my follow lsit

[wheat sleet]

Speaking of viewbots... think Twitch will ever seriously look into it, or are they benefitting too much?

[brisk sparrow]

i do think they try to

[forest glacier]

Nah he had that in game dev category and in Noita category and a couple others

[earnest cove]

imo they benefit too much from it

[minor nymph]

Top 400 on the platform.
Sustained over 12 hours no less.
More than happy with our community size.

[thick ledge]

Hard to prove bots alot of the time

[craggy flame]

"ashesofstevensharifsloans is typing..." never not gonna crack me up

[brisk sparrow]

at least when the viewbotting is super obvious and egregious

[thick ledge]

Yeah it's good

[rapid scarab]

they tried to but didnt work xD

[random ore]

The announcement sucks but is understandable. Still pisses me off to no ends the things people follow along blindly to.

[river island]

2.3k to 3.5k i noticed was the average high n low, onlyfangs was 15k but everyone big had the same 15k so idk if that was botted

[winter sierra]

like. do these count only if we watch them now, or did they count when the stream was happening because it got cut short

[shadow spade]

Yes. I watch a bunch of online endurance racing, and everyone in that space cuts their streams in thirds for a 24-hour race to make sure the vods are saved.

[forest glacier]

Even 2.6-2.8k puts this community at the top of several game categories on Twitch.

[rapid scarab]

yeh

[minor nymph]

Legitimately don't know how much Twitch cares which is a seriously bad thing.
Viewbots mean empty chairs for ad deliveries. Advertizers then pull out.
This is likely why you see so many Twitch Turbo ads in Q2 which is not normal.

[rapid scarab]

and for that size we are pretty wholesome, I might say

[hasty grail]

popping in, i hope things turn out well for you Thor

[thick ledge]

It's a very high number and I follow some streamers with less that sustain 2 or 3 employees

[wheat sleet]

It certainly has topped the Dwarf Fortress category lately

[thick ledge]

Editors and mod

[dusky grove]

yeah. it sucks. When there's such a one sided campaign of information, those that are on the receiving end rarely come off this well, which is a plus

[brisk sparrow]

the sheer number of people streaming on twitch to less than 5-10 people stretches that exponential tail out so far its not even funny

[rapid scarab]

thank you for your words ^^

[winter sierra]

i just hope everything with the ferrets goes well

[minor nymph]

It is.

[rapid scarab]

yeh they top priority

[serene valley]

pffft, that's like, exactly what I had guessed had happened

[warped venture]

They are the main priority absolutely

[arctic needle]

Everyone here is awesome! Still stinky though!

[thick ledge]

yeah making sure the ferrets are funded is #1 priority

[winter sierra]

yeah i mean ferret stream is no. 1 thor stream is no. 2

[earnest cove]

I'm saddened that the drama slops had some wins....

[serene valley]

make less money, people have to be let go, it sucks but happens.. combine that with people wanting to make up and share drama.... yea not fun times

[forest glacier]

If you don’t believe the layoffs were directly to ensure the well being of the ferret operation you don’t know Thor

[rapid scarab]

100%

[thick ledge]

im very confident laying people off was a choice of last resort

knowing thor

[indigo wadi]

define wins

[stable bay]

Ferrets are number one priority here. Really hope things get better

[minor nymph]

Yep. Everything else went first.

[winter sierra]

thor you should totally look at ferret chat what i posted deff wont make you sad (its a drawing)

[hasty grail]

i had a drama vid earlier suggesting that the entire mod team left,

[shadow spade]

Keep in mind that the stream has been down to around 2.5-3k concurrent viewers for around half a year at this point. Maybe longer.

[serene valley]

oh yea Thor, I saw the comment on ferret mod <3

[thick ledge]

wtf

[indigo wadi]

without knowing the context, of course they'd say that

[carmine sierra]

They can have a kernel of truth and still be lying

[wheat sleet]

If Shaye could make some educational content for the ferret channel and have some Japanese subtitles I'm sure that would be a big hit, but no pressure on Shaye because on-camera work can be stressful.

[dusky grove]

well, people without info will naturally speculate

and they latch onto what little info they do have available

[golden rapids]

Klick on the mod tag in the announcement an you can see who is left.

[rapid scarab]

yeh he is a pretty decent human sized ferret

[carmine sierra]

There's a difference between speculating and putting out a drama video claiming it as fact

[earnest cove]

decline in support and views. one of my friends unfortunately gained a vehement anti reaction on the mere mention of his name. she used to participate in his game jams..

[hasty grail]

as usual, and they will ignore the post made by thor to justify their stance

[winter sierra]

afaik shaye has lots of japanese ferret friends

[stable bay]

Thor is literally active here and can give context to what happened. I really hate those dumb drama channels

[forest glacier]

Thor explained this brilliantly right when the community was picking up speed, in a space devoid of information people will believe the only voice talking.

[dusky grove]

that's what happened in 2025, and to every other subject of rumors and allegations since time immemorial

[wheat sleet]

Yes, Japan loves the ferrets

[indigo wadi]

there's a difference between actively leaving and being let go, but those that don't want to deal with the nuance won't bother with it

[rapid scarab]

when are ge doing a goal to sent shaye to japan to buy a chainsaw?

[golden rapids]

I saw one in my feed that was over 1h long and it already started with suggestive framing and out of context quotes...

[winter sierra]

shaye needs to go to japan to go to ferret world

[wheat sleet]

German chainsaw

[indigo wadi]

best to ignore and filter out drama channels

[rapid scarab]

fair, but then to japan to see ferts

[indigo wadi]

no reason to watch em

[rapid scarab]

buying a plane shouldnt be that expensive

[golden rapids]

I only clicked on it cause after reading the announcement I kinda wanted to know what the current fuzz is about or if it is still the old stuff...

[minor nymph]

As per the announcement we had 2 resignations from the moderation team.
Everyone else was let go and we still have Forest on full time moderation.
Forest now manages the Hobgoblin team of community moderators.
They also manage the non-ferret related tickets.
Shaye handles the ferret tickets as usual.

[wheat sleet]

It never changes, but the current lie is Thor fired everyone

[quick rapids]

some of the ferrets even had flying lessons earlier - so we won't even have to hire a pilot!

[indigo wadi]

it ultimately doesn't matter if it's old or new, it's drama twisting narratives

[earnest cove]

Thor's game jam was the reason why she had a working demo at all. it gave her a goal. that demo gained a bit of following. Now that she's disillusioned that project had taken lower priority compared to roblox things. I felt really dissapointed.

[rapid scarab]

so

[earnest cove]

the slop drama did showed more damage in my personal connections bleh

[rapid scarab]

you are saying forest holds all the bread now

[clever flower]

i'm now imagining a ferret with a pilot hat thingy and the mental image is amazing

[minor nymph]

Forest cannot have bread.

[indigo wadi]

fired/let go is the same thing effectively

[warped venture]

[rapid scarab]

well, that you know about

[wheat sleet]

There is no bread. The bread ia lie

[hasty grail]

yes and no

[winter sierra]

forest can have bread because they are a ferret mod and ferret mods are above such bread rules

[earnest cove]

technically this is downsizing i think

[minor nymph]

Roblox things?
What are you talking about.

[river island]

Bad for ya anyways

[craggy flame]

offers croissant

[rapid scarab]

gives him a loaf

[golden rapids]

Have some cake without milk instead :p

[serene valley]

I think forest needs to renegotiate their contract tbh, unacceptable to not be allowed garlic bread

[brisk sparrow]

theyre talking about a friend i think

[earnest cove]

oh, a friend of mine chose to develop roblox games over her own work after the drama....

[dusky grove]

Thor, genuine question. Do you think you'll ever hire/talk to people about PR stuff? Streamers live or die by public relations, as the public is literally the source of income in the form of the audience.

[indigo wadi]

ew gross

[quartz sonnet]

Hobogoblins will have to have to have all the bread on Mod's behalf 👀

[earnest cove]

sorry that i'm not quite making sense at the moment my head is quite dizzy

[serene valley]

wait are the hobgoblins allowed bread

[rapid scarab]

pretty sure he is not hiring anyone at the moment xD

[brisk sparrow]

go drink water

[dusky grove]

I mean, not right now. But yknow, down the road

[earnest cove]

yeah i have water here. drinking it

[wheat sleet]

I don't really think streamere can hire people for PR. They are the face of the company

[dusky grove]

True, but maybe like a consultant or something

[forest glacier]

When I saw the hobgoblin role come up I just assumed it was basically interns lol

[undone dragon]

PR isn't all having someone talk for you, it's a lot of bts consulting

[azure knoll]

I was up at like 6am this morning talking to someone about mast cell tumors 😭

[indigo wadi]

someone can be a face and still have PR management. How do you think actors deal with publicity?>

[rapid scarab]

Chat, if you dont drink a water and crack your back right now I will send Evil Larry to haunt you at 3.46 am

[serene valley]

the announcement reads as that the hobgoblins will be community funded like how before the non-hired mods had a shared pool of mod donations

in the age before that one company seemed shady

[winter sierra]

[thick ledge]

thier friends game prototype they made inspired by you, has taken a back burner to thier roblox project since they became disillusioned with the ocmmunity

[serene valley]

I forget the name

[distant rapids]

I mean, I hope there isn't hard feelings in the background. Right now good stable jobs are hard to come by, so losing/not having a solid foundation is hard for everyone. Wishing prev mods the best

[brisk sparrow]

pally

[azure knoll]

Scab

[craggy flame]

never

[thick ledge]

and they sad about it

[wheat sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/rickandmorty-rick-gun-fight-lets-gif-7009624269947677293

[arctic needle]

Mirror will get you if you don't drink water

[rapid scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/larry-larry-cat-chat-larry-meme-chat-meme-cat-gif-14400944832505202544

thats evil larry

[winter sierra]

we love when its a MCT and not something scary

[serene valley]

https://tenor.com/view/king-of-the-hill-dale-gribble-pocket-sand-pocket-sand-gif-3699662

[craggy flame]

[dusky grove]

In a completely unrelated to everything being talked about right now. Thor, I made a little like... TTRPG X Escape room puzzle thing. Would you like to play sometime?

[rapid scarab]

he needs to finish the thing with winky first

I did art for that oneshot

and never happened again

[dusky grove]

oh true. winky did say that there's a dnd thing coming

[exotic forge]

Not sure if they have the budget for that

[rapid scarab]

and lancer

[dusky grove]

when I asked him about it

[azure knoll]

I do want to do this tbh it's just a lot of prep and being in the right mindset to talk to a camera as if it's a person

[rapid scarab]

I need my robot spanish inquisition

[serene valley]

talk to it like it's a ferret instead

[dusky grove]

ngl, that was what I struggled with when I started too

[arctic needle]

Pretend it's a ferret

[craggy flame]

put a person behind the camera

[winter sierra]

put meatball behind camera becuase hes a man

[rapid scarab]

we are ferret brained anyways

[azure knoll]

Then the whole video would just be baby speak

[serene valley]

and?

[rapid scarab]

dont say it like its a bad thing

[arctic needle]

I see nothing wrong

[thick ledge]

shaye you should become ferret maya

[golden rapids]

Pretend it's Thor :p

[thick ledge]

and do what maya does with her rescue

[distant rapids]

I'm just hoping the ferret rescue can get solid funding not only from viewer-sustained income- things I can think about that is fastest is making more neutral ferret merch. Not branded- things people can wear casually instead of collector's stuff, which is the main problem i find with most merch from youtubers and streamers. Too much branding

[shadow spade]

Subtitle it with what you meant to say 😄

[thick ledge]

or sanctuary or whatever shes got goin on

[quick rapids]

act like you're trying to explain it to Maddie or Nova?

[distant rapids]

I would go hog wild over ferret pins

[grizzled laurel]

Hey @minor nymph ,

In the Netherlands we have a saying; “You’d only wish your worst enemy to have employees”… I never understood that phrase, until I had to let 16 people go myself.

I think you wrote a beautiful message elaborating on the situation. Even owning some moments that had a huge impact on your viewers & the community.

Though, as you know, there will always be haters…

Ignore them, your old staff will overcome it. Your direct responsibility is the channel and the ferrets, don’t forget that.

I know, not everyone will get it, but know there are also people that will.

This feeling really sucks, and it’ll suck for a while… but you’ve taken it as far as you could.

They’ll come back.

I just wanted to let you know, I get it… and it must’ve really sucked 😓

Thank you for sharing, and hang in there man.

Hope to see you gaming soon again.

[dusky grove]

just have maddie or nova hold the mic/camera

[golden rapids]

One or two videos that way would actually be funny

[thick ledge]

chat

i am kidnapping you all collectively

[serene valley]

grian had a line of merch that was just, colors of his in game skin but it's made in a way that it could be just solid colored hoodie

[thick ledge]

you are going to the desert of maine

[distant rapids]

Yesss grian was a good example

[quick rapids]

but I don't wanna!

[thick ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/kidnap-ready-to-go-ready-packing-revenge-gif-14345059

[exotic forge]

There's no good way to do this but it had to be done and it hurts

[quick rapids]

there might be... grass

[serene valley]

this one

[high ice]

Are you giving me dessert? 😋

[distant rapids]

Nauuur dont make me touch grasss

[thick ledge]

no only sand

[brisk sparrow]

you would be touching sand

[thick ledge]

the sand is also really rich in gemstones

[rapid scarab]

I am givin forest bread and hobs can have the croissants

[serene valley]

like if you just had hoodies in this style but the colors are the coats of various ferrets, that could work

[high ice]

Tasty sand

[distant rapids]

EVEN WORSE, SAND IS ROUGH AND IRRITATING..

[rapid scarab]

and cronchy

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crunch-cranch-meow-cute-gif-17368992236901678436

[winter sierra]

every time hobs is said im like we talking about stinky boy ferrets

[high ice]

And electrolytes. It is what goblins crave.

[thick ledge]

its like 2-3 miles of sand dunes

just in middle of the woods

[solemn tiger]

Hey Thor, just saw the announcement, thanks for letting the community know. I hope everything is good now. I am pretty sure we can find new mods from this amazing community ❤️

[rapid scarab]

love people coming with nice words for thor

and we are here talking about eating sand

[earnest cove]

much needed

[wheat sleet]

Eat dirt then?

[thick ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

[quick rapids]

i mean... that sums up this community pretty well

[rapid scarab]

dirt is like eating sand but its a brownie

[high ice]

https://tenor.com/view/delicious-sand-lithuania-gif-13803031

[rapid scarab]

wooooo

[forest glacier]

Oh no the tank was given a sword

[quartz sonnet]

Would probably be more nutritious

[rapid scarab]

yeah I am proud of the man

the best tank

[random ore]

Yeah I hope he's doing alright and the ferrets are good. That honestly what made me most mad about the drama. People trying to attack animals and stuff.

[earnest cove]

i've seen actual clay cookies made on a documentary talking about weird delicacies

[thick ledge]

ferrets take priority and i believe thier funding is all set

[earnest cove]

like they mix it with shortening and stuff

[gray fable]

The duality of this server… wholesome conversations about one’s wellbeing, and eating sand

[serene valley]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-ent-gif-21463012

[rapid scarab]

hehe

[thick ledge]

eating sand is important for wellbeing

the minerals

[craggy flame]

hey! dont forget glue!

[wheat sleet]

Mud cookies to stave off hunger. They have some vegetable matter so not completely useless.

[rapid scarab]

you can use sand as glue topping

[quick rapids]

turn dried glue into sand!

[random ore]

That's good.

[rapid scarab]

thats like kitkats, that are made of other kitkats

[serene valley]

what is salt but tasty sand

[thick ledge]

i can see a shitter typing

[craggy flame]

can confirm, dried glue will turn into what is functionally sand, unfortunately...

[thick ledge]

my hammer is ready

[serene valley]

oh no

[random ore]

Ah lovely

[rapid scarab]

what

[craggy flame]

just why...

[serene valley]

a username showed up in the "is typing" section

[wheat sleet]

There's also that wierd diet fad of sucking on rocks that have been stewed with sauces

[high ice]

I just read today that the monkeys that live in Gibraltar are eating sand and small rocks as a way to calm their upset stomachs because they are given/steal human food.

[rapid scarab]

my shovel too

[thick ledge]

come on cough it up

i believe in u

[earnest cove]

yep yep

[craggy flame]

[earnest cove]

they want the taste but not the calories

[serene valley]

automod working overtime

[quick rapids]

is that the Haribo monkeys?

[earnest cove]

that thing is still ongoing btw. in china

[rapid scarab]

tbf gibraltar is british

[serene valley]

no haribo makes gummy bears

smh

[high ice]

Yeah

[rapid scarab]

took you a while didnt you?

heh

yeeteth

[random ore]

Still makes me mad since people acted like Thor having a opinion isn't allowed and taking care of the rescue. When I'm pretty sure plenty of other rescues publicity give opinions and aren't vilified over it.

[rapid scarab]

there is no logic in it

they need to feel part of something, and have someone tell them what to think

[high ice]

imagine here some rambling about the Utretch treaty

[rapid scarab]

thats it

[quick rapids]

logic? on the internet????

[serene valley]

you see, the problem was that it was the wrong opinion ™ which obviously is not allowed /j

[random ore]

Just endless comments or such and like. So someone who is online isn't allowed to state their opinion lest their whole world get destroyed by the mob?

[rapid scarab]

you are trying to find the logic of it like they are something else than NPCs

[craggy flame]

couldnt be

[rapid scarab]

"wow why are they acting like this???" because they were told to do so, thats it

[random ore]

Yeah I know. And I try to stay positive with the community but every so often still frustrating since a random thing will remind me.

[rapid scarab]

best way to deal with them is quick and painless

[random ore]

Like people who I would watch that went like crazy going off on random tangents and I'm like

[rapid scarab]

yep

[random ore]

I just was like "what in the world are you on about"?

[rapid scarab]

easy, money

specially in yt and twittter paid accounts

[craggy flame]

✨ the wonders of the youtube algorithm ✨

[nimble moss]

you got the problem of them not even listening/reading what is said/Written

[azure knoll]

Oh dude, rescue drama is wild

[quick rapids]

Farmers for the drama llama.... doesn't have to make sense, just make money

[rapid scarab]

as I said, npcs

[random ore]

But at least I've sifted through and cleaned out people that I obviously don't mesh with

[craggy flame]

imagine hating on checks notes ... an animal rescue? it's so absurd

[random ore]

Yeah

[earnest cove]

rescue drama>?

[rapid scarab]

they might not be bots but as hell they behave like they are

[serene valley]

lotsa armchair vets

[rapid scarab]

and I will treat them as such

also my cheese is cold, I am sad

[azure knoll]

Not with us but like, animal rescue scene in general

[earnest cove]

ah i see

[worthy ivy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-EiYgCubmM

[distant rapids]

Well, a lot of rescues actually encounter drama. Yeah, what shaye said

[craggy flame]

throw it in a pan to reheat it

[rapid scarab]

funny enough I think a shovel is more scary

[earnest cove]

admin drama or people dropping off animals kind of drama or both?

[random ore]

It's that part that was the most frustrating and infuriating part. Someone suggesting "if you care then better police your statements" and while yes you have to be aware of your language, you're talking about an animal rescue.

[distant rapids]

I suspect there is a large facet of humanity that purpose themselves to destroy other's happiness because they can't stand being miserable alone.

[azure knoll]

Because it's people who are very passionate about animals who are also not very like... People people? And also pretty stubborn, then you put them together in one room and sometimes people get into it

[exotic forge]

Rescue drama is the wildest stuff. Can't even support animals in peace?

[worthy ivy]

drama-farmers farm llama-drama like the drama-llamas they are, but the llama-drama they drama-farmer is too llama'ish by far

[azure knoll]

It's all very well intentioned though

[thick ledge]

my nose is bleeding AGAIN

AAAA

[random ore]

Yeah I probably fall into that. I don't mind and like certain folks. People, not so much.

[distant rapids]

Some, but then i saw what happened to that poor woman who ran the fox sanctuary... some is very, very malicious

[azure knoll]

One of my nostrils was bleeding for like 3 hrs the other day it was awful

[craggy flame]

panics in solidarity

[thick ledge]

aaaaAAAA

[quick rapids]

'tis the season... for sinus paiiiiin and nose bleeds

[random ore]

What's the opposite of the vampire bats saliva? Just get that critter to lick your nose.

[azure knoll]

Yeah that really broke my heart and was a massive blow to the rescue community in general, Mikayla was a good person

[rapid scarab]

did you ask chatgpt to write you that? :3

[earnest cove]

many people who go too far have the delusion that they're knight templars saving the animals

[rapid scarab]

sure bud

[distant rapids]

See, chat, here's one of those people that thrive on misery. Case in point.

Now to block em

[rapid scarab]

we found the npc

(tis like one of those skyrim npcs that just run agains a wall because they dumb)

[random ore]

Has punctuation? No it's more the behavior that makes no sense other than to antagonize

[rapid scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/alan-wake-npc-stuck-walking-game-gif-23946845

dude fr

[distant rapids]

Anyways, i can understand drama when someone is actually abusing their animals, but that... is kinda rare. I see a lot more people freaking out about ppl "aboosing" than actual abuse

[azure knoll]

It's just really sad because like, again very passionate people who care deeply for the animals, and just like in veterinary medicine they are subject to so many horrors and that + dealing with the public weighs heavy on you and your mind

[rapid scarab]

yeh, it is hard

[azure knoll]

It's extremely hard

[golden rapids]

Please insert coin. Daily token quote exceeded /s

[random ore]

Which is why I didn't necessarily agree with the stance that started all of this stuff. But like you had people do some heinous things that I have no sympathy or support for that movement or those people.

[thick ledge]

love the guy with that account name which is objectively untrue because im bonking him like wackamole

[craggy flame]

offers bread

[quick rapids]

someone tried to "free" a lobster from a seafood restaurant kinda near me - 3 issues with that:

1. it was a crayfish, not a lobster
2. it kept was for educational purposes, not for eating
3. it was in a warm water tank, and being yeeted into the cold harbour probably killed it immediately.

[thick ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-bread-magic-gif-6707576213903781287

[random ore]