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tender field
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Also, there is nothing "dangerous" about it. AI version is not "safer". It's just deleting the sidebar with extra steps.

brazen drift
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a great metric to go by is if every professional in their own respective fields thinks AI is stupid and wrong, its probably stupid and wrong.

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Or at least wildly incompetent.

carmine sierra
coarse python
carmine sierra
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Honestly
Part of software design is learning what errors you can safely ignore

coarse python
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and then proceed to add more features to it anyways

carmine sierra
tender field
carmine sierra
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Now you're talking fingerguns

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Sometimes, progress just means getting a different error than the one you've had for an hour

rapid scarab
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I would just sell everyhting xD

brazen drift
wicked schooner
indigo wadi
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he's not new though. He's been around for a good while

wicked schooner
earnest cove
indigo wadi
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Having watched Toms' stuff int he past, I'm not surprised. Eventually stopped cause I was tiring of the dramaslop

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long before I started watching thor

wicked schooner
brazen drift
wicked schooner
brazen drift
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It was abandoned:

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The dude was so insistant about "silent hill" and "mgs" teasers for "abandoned" that kojima himself had to say he had no affiliations and found it annoying.

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So while its not any leaks or gameplay, the dudes either a scam artist or severely incompetent and shouldnt be trusted if he srarts making posts

wicked schooner
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Now thats interesting

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I just thought he fired up the last game that he hyped up immensely back in the day and people today are going wild about it for no reason

wicked schooner
distant rapids
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I mean im like 98% sure its a marketing stunt because you have to specifically set up a ... tag? Idk what its called, for what psn registers what you are playing

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If you're the one developing the game

storm lintel
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MUCH LOVE, PLEASE TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF, MR. PIRATE.

-# give bread to the mods

kindred sedge
distant rapids
wicked schooner
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-# Hey mods

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rapid scarab
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I hope the man actually rests

wheat sleet
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Check actual pirates later kek

serene valley
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<@&362005405901127710> gambling scam

earnest cove
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There's more to the story about the AI legal case where they made up bullshit. it's for Life Insurance

brisk sparrow
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wuh?

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im missing context

earnest cove
earnest cove
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And the other side.... Didn't realise that it was entirely made up so it caused like uh 3 million in damages over AI hallucinations? Now they want to sue open ai for 10 million

brisk sparrow
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bruh

earnest cove
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The other party was also dumb because they didn't verify the submitted papers. Most likely done by paralegals who're the newbies of the field

brisk sparrow
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a comment on the video

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earnest cove
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It should be the user imo

brisk sparrow
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i agree

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since the user prompts it

earnest cove
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I didn't know it was life insurance claims

dusky grove
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I do think it's user error, but there should be regulations on AI

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cuz letting companies go scott free for the damage their product can do just because they weren't the ones that pull the trigger is like... bad and will just get abused

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yknow... like how guns are treated differently in other countries and those with control don't have a new news story about it every 4 months

earnest cove
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at least violence that you know and recorded

wicked schooner
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What it feels like hearing the AI legal story

earnest cove
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i've heard police tales where they just let the gangs of Malaysia duke it out with machettes and sticks in an isolated place to settle their turf war, and then once it was over they go pick up the bodies

umbral gazelle
earnest cove
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it would be hilarious to watch

worthy ivy
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used AI to draft their defense of accusations they used AI

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#clownworld

earnest cove
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there are specialised legal AI programs now. think of it as a search engine library for them

They still need to do the homework of actually reading the stuff cited first

brazen drift
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but they used chat gpt so they dont have to read!!

quartz sonnet
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AI never lies, therefore no need to fact check

indigo wadi
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seems like there's a new batch of youtube channels (im convinced they're ai without watching em) that are just rehashing old drama. And by new i mean within the last week new.

dusky grove
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General drama or just us drama?

indigo wadi
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the drama that's been rehashed numerous times

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thought it might have been new, but nah, the usual "pirate software's comeback backfired" nonsense

worthy ivy
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social media brainrot has reduced people's grasp of the meanings of words to almost nil

this "comeback"... are they referring to the still streaming more than half of most days with a discord full of unruly goblins?

either they don't mean "comeback" or they don't know what it means

same when they say "finished" or "over"... the internet speaks a different language where words don't mean anything anymore

it's maddening KEKW

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ngl if I had Thor's numbers on my Tech House streams I'd be happy as larry

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tf they mean "over"?

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#clownworld

terse pelican
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TLDR: Same old Drama farmers doing what they do ''best'', Regurgitate the same old nonsense.

indigo wadi
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yeah it's jsut clickbait

dusky grove
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"Comeback" Homie he never left. Sure numbers might be down but he's still doing what he did before

indigo wadi
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and he's still avging 2.5k viewer streams, which is still pretty big

carmine sierra
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Especially considering that he's a variety streamer

terse pelican
worthy ivy
terse pelican
indigo wadi
terse pelican
river cargo
# carmine sierra Especially considering that he's a variety streamer

This, old viewership numbers were solely due to classic wow chathoppers. It's always going to drop when you stop playing the game your viewers associate you with(even tho thor doesn't associate his stream with wow, that was still what most of his viewers at the time came for)

dusky grove
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Is there any product from the widespread yt sponsors actually good?

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Raycon, ridge wallet, etc etc

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Cuz ngl, always tempted to try magic spoon. I love cereal

indigo wadi
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nevermind, i take that back

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dude did a thor drama video 6 months ago

indigo wadi
dusky grove
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I want cereal now...

indigo wadi
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$10 USD

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per box

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198g box

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(canadian price)

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I consider magic spoon a rip off at worst, at best not at all worth it for price to weight ratio

earnest cove
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And the chatters keep having people going in posting mean things. That's when i know a new drama video dropped

indigo wadi
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I wouldn't necessary contribute the dramafarmers to the loss subs. Could they be part of it, sure, but ppl unsub from youtube channels for many reasons. I recently did a bunch of unsubbing just to reduce my sub list

indigo wadi
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Just watched a video about DV being normalized and i just...society is freaking doomed

dusky grove
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whats dv?

indigo wadi
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domestic violence

dusky grove
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ah

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messed up

tender field
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Found this old wizard man on youtube. He just uploads wholesome content like it's 2011. Breath of fresh air from all the "performative" crap.

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Doesn't even say like, comment, subscribe at the end of the video.

wheat sleet
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On the other end of the spectrum, there's Vermin Supreme. 100% performance 0% substance.

thick ledge
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Important to note thors audience is still like, 5x bigger than it used to be, and that's people who watch every stream

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I'd compare him in scope to like, tomato gaming

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They average round the same numbers

indigo wadi
tender field
indigo wadi
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ah

wheat sleet
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New Zultralord lore just dropped

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thick ledge
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New old lore

jolly sky
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I sort of already knew this was the case through osmosis, but holy god some WoW players just do not have the ability to communicate or do not realise that they are talking to other people who just want to play a game (I was watching Josh Strife Hayes's stream and the chat was....well it was something alright)

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indigo wadi
thick ledge
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That and a huge subsection of wow players are literal cavemen with internet access

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There's a reason they've watered the game down so heavily over the years

worthy ivy
# indigo wadi Social Media has eroded peoples ability to communicate effectively.

we are on the braincell tonight
I literally just posted this in another server re: socials

I've seen people basically degrade into zombies over the last couple decades
I don't take the feed myself
*mimes a needle
social media be bad for the old thinkbox
steer clear for mental safety
(I don't count discord as social media per se, it feels more like OG MSN messenger or a threaded forum than social media)
there's less clout chasing and more genuine exchange of real ideas and that on discord

jolly sky
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Some of the topics among many was that some chatters had said was;

  • Some addons are mandatory to play WoW
  • Macros are mandatory to play some classes
  • That not running dungeons with BIS Gear/fully leveled talents is griefing

These were comments after Josh had been repeatedly saying that he wants to play the game the way someone new would play it.

worthy ivy
carmine sierra
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The macros are often used even in the highest-end content

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In the same way Deadly Boss Mods has been a mainstay since like Wrath

worthy ivy
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also... thinking about it
with no context and very little knowledge
and thus probably wasted thinking...
but
WoW has a bot problem still?

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I guess?

jolly sky
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Correct, and one of his other completely fair points he made is that he doesn't care if someone isn't min-maxxing, as long as they are getting through the content in his guild, it didn't matter

And of course more than a few chatters took umbridge with that

carmine sierra
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Every MMO will have a bot problem, there isn't much that can be done about that aside from banning them intermittently

worthy ivy
carmine sierra
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The macros in question are more like cast sequence macros
Press the button, it uses the ability and switches the button to a different ability
Use that to cycle through three or four that are typically used together in order

worthy ivy
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not having macros built into the engine

carmine sierra
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If you've played FFXIV, picture it like a melee's 1-2-3 combo, but all on one button

carmine sierra
worthy ivy
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ah it turns out past me was right

carmine sierra
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Scripting the bot to hit three buttons isn't really a step up from scripting it to hit one button three times

worthy ivy
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I should listen to past me more

jolly sky
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But still the point is, is that Addons and Macro's still aren't mandatory to play WoW. People have been playing and doing WoW content without them for 2 decades at this point. But according to several players in Josh's chat, if you don't use them you're "not playing the game right" and you're "griefing"

worthy ivy
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but by then it's future me's problem

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and he's a diamond

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he'll sort it out

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past me is usually a d*ck

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when he's been present me at least

carmine sierra
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There's also targeting macros, which are used in FFXIV
Cast X spell on Y designated target
That way you don't have to click around for targeting and it'll auto-fire on whatever you need it to

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Tank is going to get a debuff periodically throughout a fight, put a skull marker on the tank and a macro to cast your dispell on whoever has the skull marker

worthy ivy
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"you don't have to click around for targeting and it'll auto-fire on whatever you need it to" still sounds like a recipe for easy botting

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can you multibox like eve?

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or is it tos violation?

carmine sierra
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Can't say, personally

worthy ivy
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ngl I multiboxed three accounts for a while just before I won EVE and it was pretty good fun once I got the hang of it - stressful, but fun

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then I won

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and multiboxed no longer

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I am a filthy multiboxer

indigo wadi
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You can multi-box, but they are able to detect automation vs player input.

worthy ivy
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shame me

indigo wadi
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WoW macros current day removes most of the automation. There's only a few cast sequences that work, and those are abilities that are off the GCD, but usually have a CD of 1.5-2 min

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the thing that drives me most insane in WoW, doing Pug content, a single mistake is made, and someone throws a tantrum and leaves.

dusky grove
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As a non wow player i cant really comment, but why would you launch a game to have a program play it for you

carmine sierra
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You're vastly overestimating what the macros are doing

dusky grove
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The closest experience i can think of that i actually saw are those guides for tft that tell you what to buy and when

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Idk, i think having something say "hey you should move out of there" Or "i'll cast 4 abilities for you with one button" Is enough for me to say you're not playing the game

carmine sierra
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That's an incredibly low bar

distant rapids
carmine sierra
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Like
Most MMO's these days have built-in AoE indicators
And even in FFXIV, there are a lot of combo abilities that auto-swap as you go through the combo

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To clarify, the cast sequence macros just change what the button does, they don't cast all of it with a single press

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It's basically changing out that hotbar slot as you go through it

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As opposed to having four separate buttons for a quartet of abilities you always use together

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Which itself is incredibly helpful, when you're limited on hotbar space and the games have a shitton of abilities by now

dusky grove
# carmine sierra That's an incredibly low bar

Maybe it is, and i don't deny that some people need em cuz of the amount of stuff on your screen, especially in mmos.

But take that kind of assist into another genre of game. Take the "skill link" Addon into a moba, or the "dont stqnd there" One into a strategy game and that just kinda takes the skill out of it

carmine sierra
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I'm not talking about those kinds of games, I'm talking about hotbar MMOs

dusky grove
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Why are mmos the only genre where (usually) 3rd party programs are encouraged. What makes them the exception

carmine sierra
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Also I'll be honest
Pressing combo abilities in sequence isn't the skill of a MOBA
And knowing where an attack is going to hit, and not even in all cases, isn't the skill of a strategy game

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Having indicators for that wouldn't really change it much

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Being able to press one button three times instead of 1-2-3 isn't going to help you know map positioning and lane pressure and creep management

jolly sky
carmine sierra
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Also, MOBAs tend to have a lot less abilities than hotbar MMOs

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So the need isn't as prevalent there

jolly sky
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That is definitely true, the common amount is 4 abilities in Moba's but that are obviously cases of more

carmine sierra
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At most in League, I'd have four abilities, two summoner spells, and six usable items (though it's usually one or two)

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Meanwhile... (logging in on FFXIV)

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This is my hotbar on Warrior

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The first four buttons there could be condensed down to two that auto-cycle through the combos, and it would make no difference on my gameplay

jolly sky
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IIRC, the highest amount of skills a hero has in Dota is 7? (plus non-abilities which is also 7 IIRC)

indigo wadi
jolly sky
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And then there' a hero like Invoker, which is kind of like playing Magicka while playing DOTA2, quite a high skill ceiling hero

dusky grove
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I get that other genres are built on more than just the micro, but its not the specifics.

Why do mmos and their players push for addons, sometimes 3rd party ones, when other genres will abhor you for using em (decktrackers in card games, guides for strategy games, aim assist in shooters etc etc)

I get if its integrated into the game, like how ff14 highlights combos, but stuff like "don't stand in the boss' fire" Should be something you learn first hand and think through

carmine sierra
indigo wadi
carmine sierra
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You answered in a general sense, not in the context of the conversation 😛

indigo wadi
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I mean

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it's a general question

carmine sierra
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Which was in reference to macros and addons

indigo wadi
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can you not

carmine sierra
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It's a complaint you often hear about them

indigo wadi
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police plz

carmine sierra
indigo wadi
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They asked, i answered, if they wanted something different, let thjem answer

dusky grove
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Myke, context clues means dendrago is right

carmine sierra
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Whatever dude

indigo wadi
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I'm honestly sick and tired of ppl speaking for other ppl when someone has given an answer. I didn't answer you, I answered them. Your input to my response wasn't warranted. thanks.

carmine sierra
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Kay

dusky grove
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Anyway back to the topic at hand

indigo wadi
carmine sierra
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If you say so

indigo wadi
dusky grove
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Say a new boss drops in an mmo with a new mechanic. Should players learn the mechanic or have qn addon tell em what to do. "Stand here" "Hit this" "Cast this buff" Etc

indigo wadi
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MMOs like FF14 were not

carmine sierra
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Anyway
The overwhelming majority of the permitted addons are clearing up information that is already being presented to the player, just not as clearly as it could be
There are areas where it's gone over the line in WoW, and the game APIs have been altered in those cases to restrict the information the addon was using
At this point the reliance on addons is partially due to the developers just expecting them to be there and not bothering to implement stuff themselves
And it's why FFXIV on the other hand does it all in-house and specifically restricts addon usage

indigo wadi
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Since it's largely dependent on the MMO in question

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and there isn't a one size fits all philosophy

carmine sierra
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Like, personally I didn't enjoy addon usage in WoW when I played it, but it was nearly required with how the boss fights were designed
They weren't clear about their mechanics and what you should do about it, because the designers were constantly in an arms race with addons telling players how to do the fight
FFXIV is a lot better about it and is much clearer with the information presented to the player, to where you can have a good level of difficulty without addons involved and still understand what's going on

dusky grove
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Then, in this hypothetical, we fast forward a few years and that once new mechanic has become more common. Should there be an addon now or should players still learn from experience?

carmine sierra
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Preach did a good video about it a while back, if I remember right

indigo wadi
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Hell, WoW built in a recommended next ability feature as well as one button rotation into their game

carmine sierra
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Yeah, that part I'm really iffy about

indigo wadi
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Again, depends on the MMO in question.

If you want my answer, yes, players should learn the mechanic as to why they're responding to it the way they are.

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Others are just content on following an addon because it's less brain load

carmine sierra
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And because in many cases, the game isn't clear with its visual tells

wheat sleet
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The addons change the way the game is played. Taking them away once they've been in use for a literal decade is criminal.

carmine sierra
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For context, this was in the aftermath of a team winning the World First race for a new Ultimate in FFXIV, and then it was found out they had addons
Any and all addons are strictly against the terms of service for FF, so their victory was rescinded and one of the players even got banned

wheat sleet
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Oh, in the context of FF (and not WoW), I know it's been in the ToS that you can't use any sort of modifications to the base game, so yeah that's justified, but it's a shitty policy IMO

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Same energy as devs from Resident evil screaming at people who mod in sexy Leon.

carmine sierra
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I'd agree it was a shitty policy if most of the things people want in mods didn't get instituted in the game itself

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And if it was enforced with zero tolerance across the board

wheat sleet
carmine sierra
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They often ignore modding entirely if it's only client-side stuff and not affecting high-end play
Plus it's basically a "Don't ask, don't tell" setup

wheat sleet
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That's usually the case, but not Capcom.

carmine sierra
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But like, client-side model adjustments hardly ever get touched with any kind of enforcement

carmine sierra
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I can't speak on Capcom

dusky grove
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Again, outsider lookin in but i think ff14 is a step in the right direction.

If its put into the game by the devs then they deem it needed. If not they're saying "actually learn to play the game"

wheat sleet
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You can't typically prove client-side mods from a normal player, but if you stream it or it, you're toast.

carmine sierra
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But like, a lot of the stuff that becomes a widespread mod in FF gets instituted in the game itself eventually
This expac got us player talk bubbles, which has prior been a mod for the past few expansions

carmine sierra
dusky grove
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Cuz again, mmos are the only genre of competitive multiplayer game that has 3rd party software as a staple instead of a sin

wheat sleet
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With so many games using kernel level anti-cheats, it would be technically possible to detect any client modification or external hooks (or even just running programs the devs don't like)

indigo wadi
wheat sleet
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Yeah. Blizzard thinks their homebrew auto rotation is an acceptable replacement for all the combat and raid helpers.

indigo wadi
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to be fair, if you're not bleeding edge content player, it's fine

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I could probably tank with it on heroic and do well

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or okayish

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Not that I would because I'd rather not hamper myself through that when I hamper myself of my own skill issues dt_kek

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Besides, their rotation helper isn't that much different from hekili

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I think the only difference is that it doesn't use major CDs or defensives?

wheat sleet
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It's just a macro with a UI

indigo wadi
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yeah it is, which i honestly find hilarioius given their stance against using 1 button macros

earnest cove
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oops i accidentally pressed enter

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i wanted to say that i appreciate this short because man, people nowadays expect others to publicly announce who they're voting for

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I've seen too many people getting dogpiled for not wanting to disclose

wheat sleet
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Vermin Supreme 2030

earnest cove
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calling them all kinds of crap

indigo wadi
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No what they want are ppl to parrot their beliefs

earnest cove
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it's the same branch of the tree

indigo wadi
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Emiru recently came underfire for not wanting to talk about politics

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it's insane

crimson tangle
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What I like about Thor is that he very, very rarely encourages any kind of political position

indigo wadi
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yeah

earnest cove
indigo wadi
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or religion

crimson tangle
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Off the top of my head, only the initial opposition to skg, but even then he told people to go watch ross' videos

indigo wadi
wheat sleet
earnest cove
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lololol

worthy ivy
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already cyborged through the mob-lie phone

distant quiver
subtle gate
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still relevant🤬

boreal flower
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poor bucky lmao

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scolding didn't work

indigo wadi
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And here I thought he threw boiling water

boreal flower
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Bucky pls wrangle the CEO into working a bit more, I really want 1.0 to come out in first quarter so i can buy copies for my siblings and wean them off of Pokemon

tender field
river cargo
tender field
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hmm...I can't really explain in words but sounds different. I'm not talking about the voice.

earnest spire
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sounds more like this

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!peeled

dapper ravenBOT
indigo wadi
# earnest spire sounds more like this

There's a much difference speaking cadence between the two clips. In the first clip, he's speaking faster, more fluently and with more confidence. In the second, it's more paced, more controlled (and higher tone).

brisk sparrow
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that was also 7 years ago

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7 years of talking for 12+ hours a day will change your voice

earnest spire
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I think that time he streamed shorter

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and speak more loudly than now

river cargo
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the short above has the same voice as he does today though

indigo wadi
boreal flower
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sounds a lil more nasally, it's almost cute, makes me wanna pat him on the head and say 'enjoy ur freshly picked hot dogs!'

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actually kinda bummed i've never heard him live with that voice since i only found out about him via the shorts like a year or so ago

blissful imp
tender field
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Will the stream start in an hour since it's DST and assuming Thor is okay?

golden mirage
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yes

robust galleon
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Stream live on yt side.

wicked schooner
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Twitch side too

subtle gate
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in relation to Thor's thing on mm/dd/yyyy vs dd/mm/yyyy I've got myself writing "Monday March 9th, 2026"

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trying to avoid confusion

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in my journal

winter sierra
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And better imo

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Because. Normal specific -> hyper specific -> broad

subtle gate
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that's a good point

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I'm trying to think how I'd string it together in a sentence

golden latch
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Its April the forth of the two thousandth twenty sixth year like ye olden dates we’re established

subtle gate
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Tuesday March tenth two thousand twenty six

golden latch
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No real need for the exact week day but if you want you can go full scholar mode and go the first Saturday of april of the year 2026 Goblins

subtle gate
ocean agate
subtle gate
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then add "payday" in there somewhere KEKW

golden latch
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Or “the day of pay”

subtle gate
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or seven days before payday

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that only works if people know you're paid biweekly

golden latch
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I love when scholars go go full word count ham on documents where like 3 sentences are just the day and its significance

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“A full moon” “__ holiday” ect

subtle gate
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I remember in high school people would tell me to put yy instead of yyyy and me being big brain was like there's gonna be a 3014 KEKW

golden latch
subtle gate
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imagine digging up a school kids homework just to add to the history books

golden latch
# subtle gate imagine digging up a school kids homework just to add to the history books

Goblins we have before and we will again we have kids homework on old bark sheets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onfim historians love a snippet of peoples lives from the past to show we arnt that different

Onfim

Onfim (Russian: Онфим; Old Novgorodian: Онѳимє, romanized: Onthime; fl. c. 1220–60) was a boy who lived in the Russian city of Novgorod in the 13th century, sometime around 1220 or 1260. He left his notes and homework exercises scratched in soft birch bark, which was preserved in the clay soil of Novgorod.
Onfim, who was most l...

subtle gate
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call me impressed

golden latch
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That however didnt have the year so its only a rough guess 🙃

subtle gate
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maybe they can find journal 4 that got lost in the Honda Fit I wrecked on the way home September 25th 2024

winter sierra
golden latch
winter sierra
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but then id prob die of a horrible disease because yknow medicine

subtle gate
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when referencing songs in my journal I like to put song name - artist name but I wonder if they're supposed to be reversed

dusky grove
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I mean, if you crop the song display horizontally, having song name first lets you get the sojg you want

proud depot
subtle gate
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another franchise taking a series too far just like Civilization and Final Fantasy

proud depot
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the surprising part here is that AOL still exists

blissful imp
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bits are down there for me but not up top.

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warped axle
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I have bits at both places and I have Turbo and sub. Also the bits % is weird on mine

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cloud island
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thor asks why the turbo isnt at the bottom of stream with the other sub options

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this is why

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lack of space

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the UI lacks space because of the HUGE resub button

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my RESUB button is the size of the missing portion of the bit goal

keen crane
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weird thing the discount is not on all bit counts

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stoic zealot
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mine is normal ish but . . .I Already continued my sub

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mint horizon
onyx bone
stoic zealot
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dude what

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why the UK get 1% more off

serene elk
# mint horizon

probably never bought bits this happens in that case
like for !! First Time !! purchasing.. for 300bits is a good deal

cloud island
stoic zealot
cloud island
cloud island
worthy ivy
cloud island
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THIS is why "go ad free with Turbo" isnt at the bottom of the stream with the other things, because their SUB buttons are HUGE if you have your Amazon Prime linked

wheat sleet
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UK likely gets more screwed on the whole due to conversion rates

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1,40 usd is less than 1,59 €

serene elk
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same for all europe 100 bits start at 1.40

terse pelican
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Swedish Prices are ass.

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wheat sleet
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It's a built-in buffer becauae exchange rates can vary daily, and having a variable rate for bits purchases anywhere but the US would make people angry

wheat sleet
terse pelican
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I mean the basic 100 Bit one, 19.45 SEK is about 2-ish? Dollars

wheat sleet
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Purchasing power of the kroner to the dollar may be high?

worthy ivy
wheat sleet
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Yeah 3 year historical high purchasing power. It might not have been adjusted for a long time

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worthy ivy
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twitch: 1% off
steam: 99% off

terse pelican
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1% Discount is the same manipulative market practice as when something costs 9.99 ( It's not a full 10, So it's totally way cheaper )

worthy ivy
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idk if they do 99%

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might be hyperboleing there

terse pelican
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Devs can do anything from 1% to 100% can't they?

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on Steam that is

worthy ivy
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ohyeah, I've seen 100% off

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classic steam W

terse pelican
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Yup

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Steam, Does nothing, Wins.

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Other Companies: Does something, Comes last.

wheat sleet
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Steam is the only company asking what their users want and not the stockholders

worthy ivy
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there are no stocks? Steam isn't traded iirc

wheat sleet
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Exactly. No investors to appease means they can do whatever they want. A publicly traded company has the legal responsibility to make decisions that benefit the shareholders.

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It also means Tencent can't buy them out, no matter how hard they try.

warm trench
#

Beef and sausage talk today in stream - HowToBasic must of heard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ7-zusFDu0

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HowToBasic
How To Make Sausage

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waxen bolt
#

Currently this user: https://www.twitch.tv/ennyarodasi is restreaming your content. They were reported to twitch but the platform seems totally uninterested in doing anything about it. @minor nymph Sorry for tagging you, but out of ideas as to how to notify you

Twitch
ennyarodasi - Twitch

lofi girl chat-chat & trolling ft. spicy & snowflake - episode 42

dusky grove
worthy ivy
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taf? that's wild
how is that even supposed to work?
I can see the dude streaming is some other dude and not whoever that's a photo of (probably AI?)

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is it an OpenClaw bot or something? no-one with even only one braincell would think that was a viable streaming strategy, right?

waxen bolt
worthy ivy
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madness

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#clownworld

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etc

hazy storm
sinful lily
waxen bolt
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but sussy as balls

worthy ivy
indigo wadi
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I just did a search on youtube. She has a channel and she was live, but youtube stream didn't catch anything with regards to Thor's stream that I cna see.

waxen bolt
gray fable
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i wonder what game would suit thor more between wizard101 and pirate101.

rapid scarab
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goblin101

wheat sleet
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GWFA

kindred sedge
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also probbaly just Pirate 101 since iirc its less of a slug through like Wizard 101 is

wheat sleet
indigo wadi
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He did play Mewgenics recently, which is turned based

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I'd love to see him do a playthrough of Darkest Dungeon

river cargo
civic vector
# wheat sleet New xbox ceo called out https://youtube.com/shorts/VXtsOoOLg6c

Also, one thing I'll say is that you're less likely to get arseholes calling you certain words on mobile games than if you play FPS games on PC ...

And believe me when I say that if I was to post what someone was calling me in voice on Helldivers 2 last night, I'd get automodded out, and that's not including the physical violence threats.

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My sister had the same in Battlefield 2, Battlefield 2142, CoD, Helldivers 2, even MMO's for Deities sake

indigo wadi
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Voice chats in multiplayer games should be disabled

tender field
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I'm just now learning this: "Steam is down for routine maintenance every Tuesday". It happens every Tuesday? Never noticed it.

gray fable
gray fable
jolly sky
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<@&362005405901127710>

jolly sky
tender field
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It was done in 10 minutes and back online. So, maybe that's why never noticed it.

wheat sleet
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Sometimes its a bit longer. I only notice it when I'm playing a game that relies on Steam servers that hiccups on Tuesday.

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Most things just swap to offline mode and continue without a fuss, minus cloud saves maybe

brazen drift
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99% of the time its Tuesdays, SOMETIMES its on wednesdays

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very rarely. idk what it depends on, but its happened

blissful imp
quartz sonnet
tender field
wheat sleet
frosty socket
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Sevens in chat!

wicked schooner
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It is wednesday my dudes 🐸

worthy ivy
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it is indeed wednesday

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hushed mesa
worthy ivy
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🔥

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want

had sweet bbq beans with sasparilla in before and it was epic

kindred sedge
wicked schooner
kindred sedge
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Also crazy that just from looking up the Skills in D2 I remember what I ran when I played. Air burst Rollie and Turret, though I would swap out either of them some times for fire chem launcher

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I know im gonna do bees and rollie for sure when I play again. I just dont know if I wanna do healing, support or angy version looking at specialization im probbaly gonna go support. Only becuase the rocket launcher Tech gets look cool as heck

rapid scarab
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https://www.whimsycosplay.com/product/dune-still-suit-cosplay/163?srsltid=AfmBOooi-Xyf9CGG61e7wfcJgwOtrTK1mmSrUeWBR5D1Ve70S93105Ju for the bet

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acoustic sage
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This is maybe a stupid question but watching Thor for like a year-ish now, why does he answer the bad faith chat questions like "Hur hur where's heartbound huh?!"

solemn echo
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Thats at least what I think is why

worthy ivy
acoustic sage
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I guess the question would be better phrased "Why bother answering the bad faith questions at all?"

worthy ivy
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it's hard to continue a bad faith engagement when the other party responds in good faith depsite the obvious "hurr durr"

makes the bad faith immediately apparent to everyone else

acoustic sage
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Like yeah obviously diplomatic polite straight-forward answers are great, but like...why bother?

worthy ivy
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for the benefit of others, not the bad faith asker

brazen drift
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Because people are trying to get a rise out of him; by answering it with a legitimate answer they either have to pivot to just straight up insulting and get obliterated, or they double blink and shut the hell up

solemn echo
acoustic sage
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Hmmm. Good point.

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Hadn't thought of that

brazen drift
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like if someone asks "hur dur when u gonna upd8 ur game?" and you ban them, that gives them fuel yknow

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but if he answers "yeah its updated, heres the proof" then they get politely shut down

winter sierra
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Also all the other things people said

brazen drift
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Yeah. It's GREAT seeing someone ask "when you gonna update your game" and then get absolutely blasted by 'heres the updates, see them for yourself', to then have their immediate next message be something wow-drama related

azure finch
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Anyways, this is Sundae, the McDonald's dog.

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Enjoy that horror.

brazen drift
winter sierra
worthy ivy
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holy furry clown, batman!

wicked schooner
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Ronald mcdonald is horrifying

solemn echo
brazen drift
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dealin with the chat trolls is like dealin with a karen basically. just be nice to them and they get unreasonably angry and then do something that gets them kicked out

azure finch
wicked schooner
hushed mesa
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All the McDonald’s mascots are criminals and hamburgular is the only one willing to admit it, change my mind

kindred sedge
winter sierra
brazen drift
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They wre so high when coming up with that dog

azure finch
brazen drift
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there is no way a sober person designed that

azure finch
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For any horror you see in a still, that was a full-size puppet.

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Mascot horror began long before the age of Freddy.

brazen drift
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may i remind people of the original charles e. cheese

steel reef
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Seems like when McDonalds mascots are brought up, everyone knows Ronald (duh), Grimace, Hamburglar, sometimes someone even remembers the fry kids...
Rarely any mention of Birdie for some reason, though...

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brazen drift
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and then some absolute lunatic thought this was a good design

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azure finch
brazen drift
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birdie is just bigbirds second cousin

kindred sedge
azure finch
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Big Bird's extended family is quite hilarious honestly. They have a different big bird for different nationalities.

steel reef
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On the subject of Sesame Street, does anyone remember which character the one named "Alice" is without having to look it up? 😛

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(On a side note, saw a more recent episode of the show a while back. Looked like they took away all the interesting stuff that had been sitting around, pressure-washed everything within an inch of its life, and cranked up the lighting way brighter. Not really a fan of the new look compared to the old one.)

worthy ivy
carmine sierra
steel reef
worthy ivy
# carmine sierra https://tenor.com/view/wackaflocka-gif-7684829

not even joking or hyperbole

Lloyd Morrisett (who worked for Carnegie Corporation) set out to use the hypnotic effects of television on children for what he considered "positive" purposes

but this is a man working for Carnegie Corporation in 1966 so... his definition of "positive" isn't likely to be the same as most non-sociopath's would be

they had armies' worth of child psychologists on the payroll - it was programming since day one

brazen drift
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yknow mr rodgers jst never sat right with me-

worthy ivy
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idk about mr rodgers - a cutural touchstone we don't have in the UK
but it's ringing a vague bell in long-term storage... I'll send a query down, see what's up

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damn I got nothing

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I'm sure there's a "nixon went drinking with jackie gleason and took him to area 51 to see the aliens before he went mental and built the flying saucer house" kind of story about him

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I'll have to google it, that's maddening

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long-term storage fail

brazen drift
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I dont normally say this to people, but I was mocking you

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Tin Foil Hatting a still-airing series that just tells people to be nice to each other is Wild

worthy ivy
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yeah but I'm diplomatic
I engage with mockery in good faith KEKW

also, I think it is one of the more.... out there stuff

but the sesame street thing isn't myth
there's chunks of it in the declassified mockingbird files (what little is unredacted anyway)

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don't believe the story about nixon, I think I filed the mr rodgers thing under "okay yeah right" too

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is why I can't find it in long-term storage

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subconsious knew it wasn't important 😆

brazen drift
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oh i said the f word lmao

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At least it HAD substance, unlike whatever the heck my brother was watching growing up. it was the same thing every single time. Episode Starts > 'villain' does something > protags go through a series of adventures to stop it > 'villain' is 'defeated' > 'says sorry' > does it again next episode

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theres no lessons being learned, its just non stop over animation for 15 minutes

worthy ivy
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it wouldn't be very effective if it was just called "the children's brain reshaping broadcast" now would it KEKW

brazen drift
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pretty sure the adults needed seasame street just as bad as the kids did tbh

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too bad the lead damaged their brains

worthy ivy
# brazen drift At least it HAD substance, unlike whatever the heck my brother was watching grow...

10000000x yes
modern stuff is worse
we've had decades to get better at it

at this point it's not just kid's tv, it's social media, 24 hr rolling news, red vs blue politics, twitter flame wars, streamer-wars and console wars, real wars, chemicals in the food, chemicals in the water, chemical pollution in the air...
and now AI induced psychosis

this "brainrot" that everyone talks of?
that's the point

the system works

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Cones uses SPIRIT OF ALEX JONES
Its SUPER EFFECTIVE

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ngl this gif makes me smile every time

thick ledge
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Sesame street is probably in government files cuz it's the most successful PBS show in history

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For all we know the files are a request from Nixon to put something propoganda-y on the show and them saying no

worthy ivy
thick ledge
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Ur an iceberg

worthy ivy
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also yes

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I've met a couple of the OG men who stare at goats SRI guys

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only one in person though

hazy storm
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SRI?

jolly sky
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It seems quite a few users in the server today have been on the funny juice

worthy ivy
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you don't even have to look into anything that deeply
you can read the declassified, publically available documents on various government FOIA portals

CIA declassified a bunch of what was previously "conspiracy theory"
and our bunch over here did the same - less than the US does, but still stuff gets released

you just have to go look
but once you see you can't unsee
once you know you can't unknow
you have to decide for yourself if you want to go looking

closest thing to a genuine cognito-hazard that I can think of tbh

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<insert cheesy matrix "blue pill or red pill" meme here>

jolly sky
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It's also quite easy to fall down multiple rabbit holes and make connections to things which have none, once something has had a crumb of truth proven

worthy ivy
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they don't even hide it, once it's more than 20 years ago no-one cares

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yet, we still say "no, they wouldn't do that I'm sure"
despite all the released, available, admitted to shenanigans that various goverments and agencies got up to over the years

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fool me once shame on you
fool me twice shame on me
fool me three times, you're probably the CIA

jolly sky
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Even so, its quite the leap to allude that Sesame Street was a Government psyop

coarse python
jolly sky
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Ok, alluding to being a negatively inclined psyop, just to be clear on that front

worthy ivy
# coarse python it was a psyop. the purpose of the psyop was to educate kids

yes that's the psyop - the education

thing is Carnegie was a believer in the Prussian School, the idea was to create slow, unthinking factory workers of the future by degrading the quality of education across the world, remove the socratic method from the curriculum and start teaching by rote (that's a matter of record)

now look at just how many educational institutions have Carnegie's name plastered all over them

you don't have to have a crazy map on the wall with a million red threads criss-crossing the room for this one, it's just joining a single dot with another single dot

jolly sky
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Yea see I think we're only a hop skip and a jump away from hearing claims that NASA is lying about the Earth being round

coarse python
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also, there's like one extra dot in the middle there

jolly sky
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Like this is literally the "making connections to things that don't exist" I mentioned earlier

coarse python
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oh wikipedia help me what the hell is going on here

worthy ivy
jolly sky
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Like is this a claim that Sesame Street's goal was to degrade the quality of education across the world?

coarse python
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wait which carnegie

jolly sky
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There's a fairly colossal leap of logic going on if so

worthy ivy
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when powerful people speak about what they intend to do with their power? I take them at their word that that is what they intend to do

carnegie sets it all out in the carnegie memo in his own words

jolly sky
worthy ivy
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I can't go much further because politics, but we've got powerful people today talking about what they plan to do with their power and it's horrific

worthy ivy
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I don't see why that wouldn't make someone suspicious to be honest

jolly sky
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NGL this is starting sound like thoughts of a stoner, but maybe thats just me

worthy ivy
jolly sky
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And unless Wikipedia is lying, The creators of Sesame Street (Children's Television Workshop) was not owned by the Carnegie Corporation

worthy ivy
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Carnegie being a bad dude who is responsible for most of the decay of modern education is the shallow end of the heinous shit elites have been doing for centuries pool

also.,.....

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Lloyd Morrisett was vice president

coarse python
worthy ivy
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yup

coarse python
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but i can find nothing on this involvement with a 'prussian school' of education

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hold on

worthy ivy
#

that Carnegie
this has been literally centuries in the making
and you get ringside seats for the finale
ngl it's going to be a very exciting time to be alive

jolly sky
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I'm still not buying the idea that Sesame Streets goal was ever to degrade education on a world wide scale

worthy ivy
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like I said is the very insignificant tip of a very big iceberg

coarse python
golden mirage
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This looks like a game for Thor.
https://youtu.be/a22OUAVQmBE?si=xvZwF1C7diZHRAps

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#There...

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jolly sky
coarse python
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also, the US school system is just known to take aspects from the prussian system
and kids will have much more time and exposure to that then sesame street
i think that's a much simpler link than the hypothesis that a philanthropist from 1900 set up a foundation to maintain [order? not entirely sure] for over 100 years

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now on another topic
can anyone email me some purified water? i want to clean my monitor

coarse python
worthy ivy
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you're kind of making the connection without making the connection

carmine sierra
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They're one of the biggest philantropist organizations in the world, they're going to have some level of involvement in just about anything if you look for it

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That doesn't mean it's all part of some conspiracy being orchestrated from on high

worthy ivy
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no, it's just a handful of people make moves, and then human greed and self interest does the rest

carmine sierra
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It's the same level as people saying that anything that ever received money from anything related to George Soros is all part of the Big Leftist Conspiracy™

worthy ivy
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Soros aint a leftist

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Soros is out for Soros and noone else

carmine sierra
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Tell that to the right

worthy ivy
#

left and right is bs

carmine sierra
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Not really

worthy ivy
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#nopolitics etc

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no left right, no red blue

coarse python
#

guys the politics dial
we're going to hit overpressure soon

worthy ivy
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only ideas

carmine sierra
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If you say so

river cargo
#

I've seen thor repeat news about the ferret rescue 4+ times a stream because new people join, even when that news is posted on discord

limpid cloak
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I have a strange feelings about that, I don't feel negative about genuine questions about game but, like, if person cares about Heartbound enough to go ask about it on stream, they surely care enough to just go to steam library and type Heartbound in search and they will see all updates in game feed

distant rapids
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Its kinda normal to ask repeat questions tbh- every person is individual and some find just asking the q a faster and more efficient path than looking it up so if ppl ask me repeat q's i dont get bothered

blissful imp
indigo wadi
wheat sleet
#

There's so many people taking aim at Valve. I have yet to see one win a lawsuit. https://youtu.be/_zDVo6if2AI

YouTube
Hero Hei
Steam just Destroyed the New York Attorney General

The barrage of lawsuits against Valve continues to proliferate, this time from the New York AG Letitia James herself. In this video, also brief context into the broader barrage of lawsuits and hit pieces against Valve as well.

🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/_Hero_Hei_

🐦 Vtuber twitter: https://twitter.com/xChaiRAWRx

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jolly sky
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AFAIK the only Lawsuit that has won against Valve in "recent" times is the one from Australia

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And that was back in 2018

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Which ended up leading to Valve actually introducing a Refund policy, so a rare case where a lawsuit was pursuing a good cause and actually ended up doing a good thing for all involved

brazen drift
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I dont remember, did sony/xbox/nintendo have refunds for online purchases before that case?

indigo wadi
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She's destroying her own case by continuing to push the violence narrative

jolly sky
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And even now trying to get a refund from either of those platforms is an absolute pain in the ass

wicked schooner
brazen drift
#

I think Sony at least certainly has one now, I think its doodoo but better than nothing

indigo wadi
brazen drift
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lmao yeah, Sony established a refund policy in 2019

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So when Steam Lost, i think the rest of them put one in place because they were next

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Though again, they are still doodoo. like if you preorder a game on xbox, that counts as "buying it", so if the game comes out more than 14 days after purcase, you cant refund that

indigo wadi
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all the more reason to not preorder

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or do it a day before

brazen drift
#

yeah preordering USED to be sick, waiting in lines at midnight and getting some really cool exclusives. now all the exclusives are garbage and you dont even have to leave the house

jolly sky
#

I remember a time when exclusives were a guarantee of quality

brazen drift
#

yeah

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now you get ikea bags with your preorders

#

Im so mad, Japan gets so much nicer preorder bonuses

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like in the US, the RE2 Remake "collectors edition" gave you a crappy cardboard "item box", some art, the figure, and a sound track. In the UK, you got a STEEL case, the artbook and soundtrack, the crappy "item box", figure, poster, a Made in Heaven pin, AND replica RPD Keys.

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I think Japan got a typewriter

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or at least I remember thre being an exclusive japan-only Re2 branded type writer

blissful imp
jolly sky
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Nowadays its just....well we've seen enough examples

brazen drift
#

the only ones that still have quality, mostly, are nintendo

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aside from their pokemon games, the rest of them come out in complete states with very very very few bugs

jolly sky
brazen drift
#

The Wii still sold phenomenally, and the Wii U's failure turned into the Switch which is basically how i used the Wii U gamepad anyway

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But early games on a new hardware always suffer. I remember there was a harvest moon that came out for the DS that you could ONLY use touch screen to do most stuff and it was so irritating. they fixed that in the next game

jolly sky
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The Wii sold well yes, but only because Nintendo cashed in on the very casual audience

brazen drift
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Eventually Wii got the regular controllers which probably helped

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Gamecube shoulda sold better than it did

jolly sky
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IIRC there was a Wii in like 1/3rd of every household in the US

brazen drift
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that GBA attachment was so peak

jolly sky
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There was nothing less immersive to enjoying a game than the requirement of the WIi-mote waggle

jolly sky
brazen drift
#

Yeah, I never got the chance to own the Wii until the very end of its life

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and by then the games i did want had non-motion control support

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But the Switch also still has those gimmicks just not as prevelent. like I distinctly remember the botw/tears shrines where you had to use motion control to move the platform for the balls

jolly sky
brazen drift
#

I mean they werent mandatory, but turning the platforms with the c-sticks was worse

jolly sky
#

And yet, still more reliable KEKW

brazen drift
#

Nintendo puts out banger first party titles, but is absolutely dog water for anything and everything else

jolly sky
#

I'd be willing to bet that the WIi-era was the largest example of shovel-ware we'd seen for a single platform

brazen drift
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At that time, probably

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I think the eshop is pretty bad if we dont count steam for this era

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like not only is the UI itself awful, it takes 8 years to load things, and is FULL of stuff like "4.99 clock app :)"

jolly sky
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Yea so much for the "Nintendo Seal of Quality"

brazen drift
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I saw Nekopara on there

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and while it was certainly the SFW version im just like KEKWait

jolly sky
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I know Nintendo has sort of been following their own trends since the Gamecube days, but at some point they had to realise that some standards exist for a good reason

brazen drift
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are you really asking nintendo to do that when you have to download an app on your phone and then hook up a microphone and then connect that to your switch to chat with people?

jolly sky
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And they're still trying to worm their weird control schemes in, even with the Switch 2

(I would love to get statistics on how many people actually use the Switch 2 controller as a Mouse KEKW )

brazen drift
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Honestly, the switch 2 controller as a mouse is just a slap in the face cuz they KNOW people want nintendo games on PC

jolly sky
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I'd be more concerned if they somehow didn't know. But, they want to keep to themselves and to be fair their tactics, as backwards as they are, have done well for them. (other than the Wii U, that was unequivocally a disaster)

brazen drift
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I don't mind them keeping it console exclusive because yeah, that has worked for them. But each year I become more and more convinced that Nintendo is gonna crash since their "quality" has been very steadily declining in areas.

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Like all of those joycons with stick drift; why am I gonna keep buying those when they're 80USD and will drift in 3 months?

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getting a 3rd party pro controller is more reliable

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The console itself is great, but the timed digital exclusive game stunt they pulled was pretty bull

jolly sky
#

I agree both on the Joycon and timed exclusivity stuff, and infact exclusivity at all.

There isn't a single other medium that exists purely to prop up the platform it exists on (considering that the consoles are sold at a loss)

brazen drift
#

a lot of people also noticed the switch 2 joycons arent fully fun colors anymore

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just accented fun colors

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where are my switch themes like there were on the 3ds, WHERE ARE THEY

jolly sky
#

Personally if I was a Switch Enjoyer I'd be more than happy that fun colours weren't focused on if it meant that the improvement of the hardware and reliability had that focus instead.

brazen drift
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Lmao

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too bad that isnt what happened

jolly sky
#

But obviously I'm not a Nintendo insider so I don't know what focus went where

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Granted I've not seen any example of Switch 2 stick drift, but I also haven't looked or had that problem show up in my random internet adventures

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If stick drift is still a problem in the Switch 2 then, well holy hell what have Nintendo been focusing on in terms of controller hardware

brazen drift
#

I imagine it went into the actual hardware inside the machine, and the mouse functionality.

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Yeah, switch two will be out a year as of uhhhhhh

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...april? may?

jolly sky
#

I don't know where else this existed, but in the EU Nintendo were forced to offer longer warranty's for their controllers due to the massive stick drift problem

brazen drift
#

And the only REAL game that had people playing it was mario kart world, but the forced novelty of "now DRIVE TO YOUR NEXT RACE COURSE" really put people off

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so I imagine a lot of those controllers arent being used as hard by people with enough time to wear them down

jolly sky
#

And like you said earlier, third party Nintendo compatible controllers (while granted not being a Joycon) have been cheaper and more reliable than Nintendo's own controller offerings

brazen drift
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Yeah.

jolly sky
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Like 8BitDo have been outperforming 1st party controllers (except Sony) on price and reliability for years

brazen drift
#

I think the Pro Controllers are fine from what I can tell

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its just always joycons. hell i bought some purple/orange joycons and got the drift in 3 months

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granted it wasnt switch 2 joycons

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but i have no desire to buy that console

jolly sky
brazen drift
#

the second someone figures out the haptic dualsense trigger stuff that my friends been hemming and hawing about (cuz he needs a new ps5 controller) those 3rd party controllers are going to sell so hard

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I actually today bought one of them 8bitdo Mini's for my ipad, and plan on getting one of them nice 40 dollar bluetooth ones for my PC

jolly sky
brazen drift
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oof

jolly sky
#

Granted I've owned this PS5 controller for over 2 years but, in the back of my mind I thought;

"Hrm...a small piece of plastic that through its design is meant to push against my finger feels flimsy"

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And I was sort of waiting for the day that it would stop doing what its designed to do because I never felt as thought it was designed to hold out for long

brazen drift
#

I imagine Sony doesn't want 8bitDo connecting to play station because they want to sell controllers

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which is wild, cuz Xbox has like HUNDREDS of controller designs and they dont seem too afraid of competiton

jolly sky
#

Granted I will admit that the Vibration stuff in the PS5 controller is actually quite impressive for the PC games that utilise it

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Having used every vibration based controller from the PS2 onwards, it's quite a significant step up compared to the other options

brazen drift
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i basically only had a ps2 and 3, i had a 4 briefly but i never played it as much as I did my 3ds or PC

jolly sky
#

Like for example in Monster Hunter Wilds, the individual monsters roars actually feel different through the vibration

brazen drift
#

god i wish i could play wilds

carmine sierra
#

Are there any games that really use the gyro controls that Sony has done since like the PS4?
The only one I can think of is Until Dawn, though granted that one was really cool about how it did it

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Basically it was like
Horror game setting, and certain quicktime events would fail if you moved
And the thing was really sensitive, so a slight twitch would set it off

jolly sky
brazen drift
#

yeah

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Sony is so WEIRD with its exclusives

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at least with nintendo I know it will NEVER show up, but with Sony I always have to wonder. though i guess i wont for much longer since they're retreating into their exclusivity mines but

jolly sky
#

Although to be fair I got to play and enjoy Bloodborne for several 100 hours so...I guess worth? Maybe?

jolly sky
indigo wadi
#

Sony makes a lot of decisions that don't seem to make any sense

brazen drift
#

Recently its been REALLY bad

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like, not just in gaming but in everything

jolly sky
#

But sadly it did a worse job at keeping up with where it thought my face actually was compared to where in the in-game camera was.

I thought that it would do a better job compared to a TrackIR alternative I was using at the time, but infact did not

worthy ivy
#

you can elite on a controller? don't you run out of buttons?

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I've got a joystick absolutely smothered in buttons and I ran out

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wanted to put everything on the joystick, but it wouldn't fit 🙂

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I got a middle-finger button on the middle of the stick that kicks ass for flight-assist toggle though

#

damn I need to reinstall elite

jolly sky
# worthy ivy you can elite on a controller? don't you run out of buttons?

You can, and it does a surprisingly good job at it.

But my use for the controller wasn't even for control. I literally wore a baseball cap, with a PS4 controller with sticky velcro pads on both the brim of the baseball cap and the controller, so that the in-game camera would track the Gyro control to the PS4 controller

worthy ivy
#

noice

jolly sky
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It didn't work as well as the previous solution did so sadly it that fell by the wayside

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What I had used previously was something called FaceTrackNoIR, which uses a webcam to put template on your face, and then interfaces with the game to track the template to move the camera when you turn your head

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Basically it was a $5 option compared to, at the time, a $200+ solution that required you buying a specific camera that tracked your head movements via strips you place on a headset/hat that would be picked up via Infrared

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This is a TrackIR setup. A webcam you bought from them, plus the IR strips that you would attach to the cap to be picked up by the Webcam for close to 1-2-1 face tracking

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But I did this (because it was wayyyy cheaper, also the image is from a Google Search and is not my face)

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blissful imp
tender field
#

Coffeezilla is the only "dramatuber" I willingly watch since he does real investigations and no assumptions.

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I know his content is not drama, I'm just exaggerating.

carmine sierra
#

It's like drama-adjacent, but distanced enough to be respectable

wheat sleet
#

I would classify it as investigative journalism

carmine birch
#

Thorsdays Day Off

wheat sleet
#

Maybe we can manifest a Shaye stream

night zodiac
sleek violet
#

They need to get a generator.

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And 5G backup Internet 📡

golden mirage
#

They have a generator and given their location, 5G internet probably won't help.

frank geyser
#

They started the "life" in that area on 5G mobile with live streams for the main channel and the ferrets. Before they got the fiber line hooked up to the house. And yes they have a backup generator, but when the fiber/internet outside of there land/yard also loses power, they don't have a working internet from the provider/ISP

wicked schooner
warm trench
#

Oh yea, thorsday --- why the frick am I awake... oh well 🙂

blissful imp
blissful imp
carmine birch
#

Does anyone have the clip of Thor doing the Riker maneuver?

winter sierra
#

Speedy mods 🍞

worthy ivy
#

🍞

carmine birch
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🍞

rapid scarab
wicked schooner
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🥐

tender field
#

🥖

kindred sedge
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🫓

jolly sky
rapid scarab
wicked schooner
#

Meatball secretly opening a bakery by stealing thors cheesebread recipe yarrLurk

clever void
#

Just woke up. Did Thor ever get on stream last night? Is his power still out?

civic vector
#

Thursday is his day off remember

clever void
#

OH GEEZE ITS THURSDAY!!!!!!!!!!

civic vector
#

As for that last I checked 3 hours ago the Ferret channel is dead ... likely still out

clever void
#

It has been one of those weeks for me. Completely forgot the day. Thanks. Sorry

tribal nest
rapid scarab
#

bet another tree yeeted the cables again

indigo wadi
indigo wadi
#

huh

tender field
#

sigh... time to make a kick account

indigo wadi
#

Kick has improved that much eh?

brazen drift
#

lmfao

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i tried to make a kick account

indigo wadi
brazen drift
#

guess i wont

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the hell you mean I cant use my .

indigo wadi
#

Weird

tender field
brazen drift
#

so i cant manually input my email, but i can sign up through google the exact same way

quartz sonnet
#

Group Tab for the Wigglers!

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indigo wadi
brazen drift
#

i guess

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still weird

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why are _ allowed but not . ? its basicall the same thing

indigo wadi
#

Not a clue

tender field
indigo wadi
#

Does that mean Thor will stream on Kick as well?

brazen drift
#

maybe if the experiment goes well

indigo wadi
#

Kick doing better is..weird

#

so

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this happened

fathom stone
indigo wadi
#

Surprising to me

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I thought it'd always be a shit platform

earnest cove
#

Kick being a viable platform is not on my bingo card

wheat sleet
indigo wadi
#

I wouldn't pee on it if it was on fire

earnest cove
#

It's good to have another source though because YouTube and twitch have been doing silly things

indigo wadi
#

what, rumble isn't viable? 😛

earnest cove
#

Isn't rumble donation based?

indigo wadi
#

no idea

earnest cove
#

One of the alternatives runs on donations

#

Either rumble or odyssey

#

They're still pretty small compared to YouTube

wheat sleet
#

I've always heard that Rumble is too political

indigo wadi
#

it is

fresh linden
#

Yo, take a look at this

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I can split screen stream on my phone both twitch and kick.

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Both streams run in tandem

earnest cove
#

Neat

thick ledge
#

Ferret stream is on kick?

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That's suprising but i guess it would boost revenue

boreal flower
#

Anything and everything for the wigglers!!! yarrBongos yarrBongos

blissful imp
blissful imp
# thick ledge That's suprising but i guess it would boost revenue

big time. During the interview with ToadPHD, Thor ended up doing the math on stream and Kick pays out 6x more than Twitch atm.

because Kick's current monetization is the amount of viewers + the the amount of hours streamed.

So if the Ferret stream has to be restarted every 48 hours like on Twitch. than the math is something like 48 x whatever the viewer count is. Rn its 53.

So 48 hours x 53 = 2,544

Then kick pays out every month, like Twitch and Youtube. 2,544 x 30 = 76,320

#

wait i did the math wrong, because it wouldn't be 30 streams.

thick ledge
#

Whos Toad phd

blissful imp
#

i was going off of 30 days

thick ledge
blissful imp
#

he's the one with a painted face

thick ledge
#

O

worthy ivy
# earnest cove Isn't rumble donation based?

rumble is something based
I don't know how they work out payments
because I have no data points

well, one data point - I made literally two cents this last year (I assume because of music rights and the publishers get the cash?)

but wasn't expecting to make money

my complaint with rumble is the back end - the dynamic nodes are very, variable - sometimes it's sweet, sometimes they're bad and drop half the frames

it's a lottery basically, but kick has been solid as a rock so far

kick kicks ass (atm at least)

blissful imp
#

probably because twitch is old and held up by duct tape and glue.

distant rapids
#

Hmmm... an interesting turn, to try out kick. I'm a little hesistant, because I don't like some of kick's leadership principles, but I would be a hell of a hypocrite if I let that fully stop me from approving because I ALSO don't agree with twitch's principles KEKW

#

They are both shit. But shit is a little better when it's COMPETITIVE shit. business_otter

#

I would much prefer if rumble picked up the pace, but they. Struggle.

worthy ivy
# distant rapids Hmmm... an interesting turn, to try out kick. I'm a little hesistant, because I ...

from a DJ's perspective kick is a solid offering

rumble's back end is poor
twitch's tech is fine for my needs, but they don't let me save VODs in the DJ category because reasons
youtube will nuke a livestream at the first sign on a track that isn't licensed for youtube specifically (damnit youtube I'm a DJ I''m allowed to play any record I own in a live mix)

but kick has kicked ass
no issues, no nuked streams, supposedly saves the vods at least a week or so - is great so far

blissful imp
distant rapids
#

Oh that's an interesting Perspective! I wouldn't have thought that kick would not have been so banal about removing Copyrightable things- Google acts like DMCA is their master and I guess it is as an advertising company- But having a source not so stringent is a breath of fresh air

#

@ cones

worthy ivy
distant rapids
#

It wasn't named movie piracy it was just stream movies

blissful imp
distant rapids
#

But you know that was what it was

#

Damn it viacom and Warner brothers actually

blissful imp
worthy ivy
distant rapids
blissful imp
#

the point hole was setup on kick

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brazen drift
#

i have like 250, its gonna take a HOT MINUTE

river island
#

Very slow but no ads but he gets more money so win win

wheat sleet
#

Open both streams, double money for the noodles

river island
patent bear
# distant rapids Hmmm... an interesting turn, to try out kick. I'm a little hesistant, because I ...

My understanding is that "we" would just simply make the best use of what it has to offer. That's what I feel Thor is doing.
We all have our opinions on Kick, and he has also spoken of his strong opinions about various aspects, but the fact he's now deciding to experiment after the changes the platform has made, that's when you then just make the best use of what's offered.
If we all took zero tolerance on such things, based on the site and parent company's reputation and such, we wouldn't be using Twitch either.

distant quiver
#

I honestly never thought I'd have a reason to make a kick account, but I'll do it for the wigglers

coarse python
rapid scarab
#

truth is, twitch is not better rn

coarse python
wheat sleet
#

Technically Kick provides more "ad" revenue with no ads, plus an ungodly split for subs and barely any processing fees for "kicks"

blissful imp
wheat sleet
#

It's winning on everything but viewers

coarse python
patent bear
#

Last I recall, Thor said he didn't want to move to Youtube until they at least fix the banned user list management.

brazen drift
#

youtubes chat system on streams is Garbage

blissful imp
wheat sleet
#

YT is king of pants

coarse python
blissful imp
wheat sleet
#

Yt livestream chat is garbage too

blissful imp
#

and like 80k on twitch

#

For streaming youtube has way more viewers than twitch.

coarse python
blissful imp
patent bear
#

Isn't Burnt Peanut a drama/ragebait streamer?

blissful imp
#

he streams extraction shooters like Arc Raiders and so on.

patent bear
#

Fair enough.

coarse python
blissful imp
#

he's very much an entertainer lets say

brazen drift
#

it seems like he is one since a lot of people got mad in the vtuber community about him

#

SEEMS

patent bear
brazen drift
#

but i think hes just a bit of a troll and people got mad

coarse python
indigo wadi
#

the viewing experience, outside of ads is worse on youtube. Chatting is horrible, less intergrations, etc. The fact the watch time is higher boggles my mind. I have never enjoyed watching streams on youtube if I can even find them.

brazen drift
#

the only two streams i watch on youtube are the ferrets and ryan hall when weather gets bad

sterile verge
#

Yeah I tend to not watch streams o nyoutube at the best of times

#

Mainly because kids

tender field
#

Can't even reply to other chatters aka @ them. Can only reply to super chatters.

distant rapids
indigo wadi
#

Lately, youtube home has been trying to push sub-1000 channels doing lets plays

distant rapids
#

I am going to lay down and scream

#

Be right back

#

I meant to put that in genchat

warped venture
#

Welcome in, English only please. Additionally use #advertising for posts like this.

blissful imp
indigo wadi
#

I said other than ads

blissful imp
#

like its not hard to understand. people don't want to be interrupted by 3 minutes of unskippable ads.

indigo wadi
#

I mean it is when the viewing experience on youtube is terrible compared to twitch

blissful imp
indigo wadi
#

Nope but you ignored the part I said initially

#

we've gone through this, we don't need to do it again

blissful imp
# indigo wadi Nope but you ignored the part I said initially

most people can deal with the mediocre experience on youtube because they can block ads. i've literally heard and seen people say they'd rather watch streams on youtube because they can block the ads. its literally the reason. i'm sure most hate the experience and wish it were better.

indigo wadi
#

STOP RESPONDING TO ME ON THIS SUBJECT. WE WILL NOT REACH AN AGREEMENT.

warped venture
#

Both of you please

blissful imp
#

gifted a sub on kick

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winter sierra
#

whatever argument happened here i cant tell because i have both people ignored (nothing against either of you its just sometimes i like to hide arguments so i cant see them or after i read them :> )

wicked schooner
#

Here chat, have some fresh bread by meatball

#

You too, forest 🍞 🥖 🍞 🥖

undone parcel
#

Its friday the 13th, its time

golden mirage
subtle gate
#

and here I was in alpha centauri so I couldn't respond to people arguing over I don't know what I guess it doesn't matter

tender field
golden mirage
#

Oh, was it? I may have mixed them up.

subtle gate
#

death battle between afro samurai and samurai jack was pretty cool

#

uh no

#

...

golden mirage
#

<@&362005405901127710>

subtle gate
#

that

tender field
#

aaaa... <@&362005405901127710>

golden mirage
#

I'll tap 2 baguettes and a rye loaf to summon a moderator of destruction.

tender field
#

oh, it's gone...

warped venture
subtle gate
#

usually takes less than that but less than a minute is still really good

warped venture
#

I don't have jake's lightning speed reaction time unfort

wicked schooner
warped venture
#

mmmmm Bepis

subtle gate
#

I am a sucker for wall eye KEKW

indigo wadi
patent bear
indigo wadi
#

ph

#

oh*

#

nvm lol

patent bear
#

It's like only $1 or 2 USD for a key. 6 hour free trial, but that low cost, it's worth it.

forest glacier
#

Well that can’t be good

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rapid scarab
#

dude

#

jahaha

river cargo
#

Is that actually real?

#

I'll have to re-watch the toadphd vid because that seems crazy good

#

With an average of 400 viewers for the ferret stream on kick, thor would make roughly 3.5 million a year

blissful imp
#

7 x 400 = 2,800

#

for 1 stream

#

the Ferret streams get reset every 48 hours. and on kick earlier there were 53 viewers.

48 x 53 = 2,544

#

for 1 stream

river cargo
#

Yep

#

But if the twitch viewers all migrated

#

It would be 48x400

blissful imp
#

insane

river cargo
#

In a fortnight, thor would make over the average us yearly salary with just the ferret stream

blissful imp
#

A month of ferret streams with 400 viewers on kick would give that

#

Currently the ferret stream has 41 viewers.
48 x 41 = 1,968
From 1 stream.

1,968 x 10 = 19,680
From 1 month of Ferret streams with the current viewer count of 41.

#

okay lets go off of a normal stream that isn't 24/7.

lets say you stream for 7 hours with 41 viewers on kick.
7 x 41 = 287
from 1 stream.

287 x 30 = 8,610
From 1 month of doing 7 hour streams on kick with 41 viewers.

river cargo
#

Really should push everyone to migrate lol

blissful imp
patent hazel
#

I've had my hands full feeding a baby. What are the bots getting banned for?

blissful imp
patent hazel
craggy horizon
#

Hi

earnest spire
wheat sleet
wicked schooner
wheat sleet
#

<@&362005405901127710> needed in stream

wicked schooner
wheat sleet
#

It's not the only incident though, would require constant tickets

main ruin
#

Doesn't seem too urgent (think of ToS breaching), it's just a troll

#

Thor is currently self moderating

rapid scarab
#

proof

wheat sleet
#

It's always just trolls trying to garner attention, except for that one guy with 100k accounts. That was pretty entertaining.

wicked schooner
rapid scarab
#

thet are the same

carmine charm
#

The great breadening of mods

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wheat sleet
#

But there are no mods

carmine charm
#

they are just in a bread coma now

wicked schooner
gray fable
#

And now people want Thor to play time stranger

rapid scarab
#

he wont probably

#

game is too old to bring engagement

gray fable
#

Didn’t stop him from playing Etrian odyssey

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Though that was for his birthday

rapid scarab
#

and he is an etrian odisey fan

wheat sleet
#

Thor needs to get some more game sponsorships

river island
#

With the economy in a jam it might be hard for them to warrant the cost.

river cargo
#

glad he doesn't do them

#

I've heard so many streamers take on sponsor after sponsor every week and not a single criticism is allowed in chat when the product is mentioned

river island
#

He will if its something cool and relevant which is nice

tribal nest