streamchat

[swift gulch]

Most likely

Hytale is one of those games where I'm content to let them cook

It's taking a really goddamn long time, but from what I've seen of the game and their Minecraft server and mod before it, I don't mind

It'll be out when it's out, and at that time I'll probably play the shit out of it as much as I did for Vintage Story 😛

[winged knoll]

I doubt it was Riot that overscope the project

[idle hill]

Nah I mean it was Hytale overscoping on the project

Trying to add too many features at once

[swift gulch]

Yeah, been like that since the start of the project, honestly

[blissful imp]

i haven't seen Thor drama videos in more than a week. All of the drama sloptubers have moved onto Mutahar/SomeOrdinaryGamers.

[jagged birch]

@minor nymph , tomorrow?

[blissful imp]

i posted this in general chat as a screenshot. Simon changed his Twitter banner to Hytale. #general_chat message

[winged knoll]

[winged knoll]

Tomorrow is Thorday

[frozen sonnet]

Today is Thorsday

[jagged birch]

I hope, he'll stream tomorrow

[worthy ivy]

only if the Goblins behave themselves

[proud depot]

next stream is planned to be <t:1755241219:f>

[swift star]

I'm treating it as tentative, if he wants/needs more time for R&R, I'm all for him taking it. Health first.

[bronze summit]

Everyday is Thorsday

[hasty grail]

Tldr... Is it his credentials as the drama?

[earnest cove]

They're getting a class action lawsuit right now in america. The radio actually called for parents whose child got groomed on roblox to call

Qatar banned roblox. turkey banned roblox. Indonesia is banning it soon especially with this news getting out

[blissful imp]

wdym?

https://tenor.com/view/stone-cold-steve-austin-what-wwf-gif-12331041

[worthy ivy]

TIL 23 words is TL 😆

[hasty grail]

that was the most recent drama i heard on his end, unless there is new crap coming out about mutahar

[silent plank]

the prophecy is real... the goblin king will return...

[frozen sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-return-of-the-king-lord-of-the-rings-ro-tk-title-card-gif-22191928

[analog imp]

Awa

That low frame rate hurts my soul

[frozen sonnet]

I can make it lower

[blissful imp]

the muta drama stuff started more than a week ago. Someone made a video saying he's been lying to people saying he's an engineer. There have been many videos afterwards.

[hasty grail]

ah, sooo its the credentials drama

[blissful imp]

people actually reported Muta to his local police. the police laughed. here's a quick video of recent stuff from this drama. https://youtu.be/OeBN9m-uSdQ

[forest glacier]

Ofc, taking what the police say as the end-all-be-all might not be the best move if we account for the world we seem to be in… no politics chat

[tender field]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H73mVTkgehE
what the hell is this

the most funny part, it's on nintendo

[silent plank]

man i wonder what the goblin king will stream

i kinda want him to stream MHWilds and fight steve

and get kicked into next week

then i well make a thor-chan with a steve's foot shaped dent on his head

[gray fable]

he should play a goblin game

[silent plank]

ah yes

dwarf fortress

[hasty grail]

or rimworld

[late pond]

I would still like to request The Bazaar

[wintry pond]

wasnt there a game jam? so most likely 1st stream will go over that

[silver stump]

this is that company's fourth game, all this this year all of them ripoffs
https://gg.deals/games/published-by-boggysoft/
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/games/company/308973-boggysoft

[silver stump]

the only up one is apparently a "remaster"

[winged knoll]

Sound plausible

[fleet osprey]

I made a video on runngameentertainments channel going through these, thief SIM is a generic asset flip, repo horror is a rip off of repo and uses mainly the same/similar assets, although appears to have been taken down from the store, only up is just a generic asset flip based of another generic asset flip... And Palland is a mixture of stolen idea, asset flip, and ai generated content.

Remember guys, unlike steam, Nintendo Vets their e-shop...

[boreal flower]

it's cuz nintendo knows palland will never get more popular than pokemon so it's safe to put on switch🤪

do they just automate the vetting process for the e-shop?

[winged knoll]

https://www.ign.com/articles/nintendo-rolls-out-new-eshop-publishing-guidelines-for-switch-2-in-asia-seemingly-to-curb-spam-games

based on this, seems like there is minimal efforts on the vetting process (only scan for adult-related content)

I can be wrong tho

[boreal flower]

that still seems pretty hands off, just a guideline change and faith that ppl won't just ignore it somehow and then they turn their focus back on stuff that they need to just drop instead, like the lawsuit 🙄

i like the bundle restriction tho, seems fairly reasonable

[winged knoll]

Imagine Nintendo is an actual law firm, making games and console is just the front

[boreal flower]

LOL

just kinda reading thru it all.. no schedule 1 on switch 2 it seems XDc

[winged knoll]

Would explain why it take them so long to make a new one with the specs of a 5 year old smart device

[flint sinew]

weren't you going to sleep hell

/j

[winged knoll]

But it’s just a theory

Oh shit i got caught

Gubai chat

[brazen drift]

I saw randy feltface do crowdwork and one of the guys in the front row said he works on the nintendo games submission website and they get a thousand submissions a day, and quote "out of 1000, 900 are Poo"

[boreal flower]

i'd believe it

[brazen drift]

and i guess they let 800 shovel ware games through to bog down the eshop thats already laggy

[boreal flower]

seems like the guidelines were primarily to curb slop in S.E.A./Asia shopfronts with some effect spillover to Western e-shops? at least according to the article

one indie dev says visibility and promotion is still easier on Steam compared to Nintendo e-shop

[wheat sleet]

Steam wins again by doing nothing.

[brazen drift]

Well yeah, have you Seen some of the games that make it to the front pages of things like sony's eshop?

what was that one asset flipped tiger simulator

[boreal flower]

i've not seen sony's eshop at all, don't have a current gen playstation XD; i think my last one was a PS3

[brazen drift]

Fair, my stepdad has a ps4 so i sometimes see what goes on

and i have an older switch but i try not to go on the eshop because its like 2 fps

[boreal flower]

same, i have older switch and most of my games are physical cartridges

[brazen drift]

ye

[boreal flower]

couple others were digital gifts

[brazen drift]

I flat out refused to buy the switch 2 at all since they're all following the "well you could buy a cartridge but you gotta download the game anyway loooool"

[boreal flower]

but i stay out of the e-shop otherwise, easier to ignore temptation when it makes it hard to enter and navigate lol

[brazen drift]

it was the one platform i could know if i got a physical game i wouldnt need to download 64 gigs day one and crash servers every chrimbus orz

[boreal flower]

yeah haven't really touched newer nintendo stuff since the lawsuit kicked off and definitely not gonna with the lack of proper physical game media smh

[brazen drift]

yea absolutely not from me dawg. it was already super expensive for honestly not a very large upgrade, but the fact that they can brick your switch 2 and CAN'T UNDO IT is the absolute deal breaker for me.

"sorry we flagged your system in error, spend another 600 dollars :)"

[boreal flower]

good lord that's a storm of lawsuits waiting to happen O.O;;

[brazen drift]

brazille is already going after them for that i think, but frankly it'll probably just mean a more expensive brazilian only version of the console

[still quiver]

The dumpy emote got approved by Twitch!

[brazen drift]

🔥

i made my friend a hollow knight grub dumpy emote

we named him dave

[still quiver]

https://twitch.uservoice.com/forums/928738-badges-emotes/suggestions/47567276-allow-pg-dumpy-style-emotes-on-twitch

[boreal flower]

xDc dave the dumpy~

[brazen drift]

only took them 2 years to respond to it

[still quiver]

I remember when he put in the ticket lol

[analog imp]

Woooooooow they are SO SLOW on that aren’t they

[brazen drift]

at least to officially respond

[analog imp]

I’ve seen continents move faster than that

[brazen drift]

they did allow the emotes back like, a year after or something to that effect but

[analog imp]

Yea, they did, after the ticket had so many votes

[brisk sparrow]

was gonna say its been a while since they were re-added isnt it?

[analog imp]

They added them back somewhere mid 2024

Mid or early

[brazen drift]

i feel like they just forgot about uservoice lmfao

[analog imp]

It does definitely seem that way

I should submit a user voice highlighting their response time on that to petition that they actually read the user voice more often

That would be so meta

[brazen drift]

no dont! you'll break the paperclips and rubberbands holding the site together

[analog imp]

Ey! Can’t teach them how to do their job without breaking it a few times!

That is actually how we would teach people to do some maintenance tasks like safety wire, they’d do it, get it perfect the first time, then we go “that’s great, do it again”

The purpose of it was so that they had the muscle memory and the eye to see what was good, and would get it the same way every time

I started that way, was oissed when they broke it, but once I became the teacher, I understood

[brazen drift]

bold of you to assume they could even read what broke if they can't read uservoice

[analog imp]

Goodness, I should think about making food

[pliant helm]

People deeply upset that 'engineer' doesn't automatically mean the construction variety.

[hasty grail]

.......

care to explain, because this sounds very stupid

[pliant helm]

'Engineer' is frequently used in tech to describe someone who makes things, as opposed to a support specialist. So someone who programs is a software engineer, someone who's writing server stuff is a network engineer, etc etc.

[hasty grail]

right

im following you so far

[pliant helm]

Mutahar called himself an engineer. Because he was one.

Just not.... a civil engineer. Or a mechanical engineer. Or an electrical engineer.

Kind of like how people keep claiming Thor insists he was a game dev at Blizzard for 20 years. Thor never actually made that claim. They made it up and then disproved a claim he never made in the first place.

But because he claims 20 years experience in the industry, they're too dumb to tell the difference.

The more you watch people the more you realize they see what they want to.

[hasty grail]

what kind of engineer is mutahar

i will be honest, this sounds like very stupid drama

[shell osprey]

muta's most accurate claim was calling himself a video engineer because he's never made anything else

[shell osprey]

in what sense?

[hasty grail]

people looking into something in such a way that it turns out that it was misunderstanding on the drama-tubers and how the youtuber said it

[shell osprey]

Im not sure I follow you exactly but there's not really any misunderstanding

[subtle gate]

they've been making shit up for a while now

Thor not saying anything made it impossible for them to do a "gotcha" moment

[hasty grail]

talking of mutahar, Jesus

[shell osprey]

mutahar spent the last decade calling himself (primarily though he used several variations) a computer engineer, ambiguously implying he had training in the field and works 40 hours a week in a fulltime engineering position
he repeatedly emphasized this facbricated experience to give himself authority when making comentary on current issues, and even more egregiously when doing a sponsored advert for intel "as an engineer, I know this is a good cpu"

[hasty grail]

okay

thats the other part i was missing

[winged osprey]

All I know about mutahars tech experience is that he uses arch and spins up VMs at times

[hasty grail]

because i only really watched him during TheCompletionist drama

[shell osprey]

nobody spoke to the police, but one dramatuber contacted an organisation in ontario where muta resides to ask them whether he violates their restrictions on the use of the term engineer as it's a protected profession in that jurisdiction

[winged osprey]

What else does he claim to know?

[shell osprey]

there's been precedence where they came down hard on a politician there for calling himself an engineer despite no longer practising it, so it seemed like theyd take issue with muta

but they ultimately said it's no big deal because muta has already apologised and vowed to stop using the term

(which is how the politician settled his run in with them too)

[hasty grail]

okay, i think im now up to date on this

thanks Aspirant

[earnest cove]

Yeah I think the main thorn is that Mutahar was exposed to not have any proper work experience

[shell osprey]

regarding that: there's another vid that was made prior to the recent engineer drama by an accountant who went through muta's claims and pointed out how the completionist charity did nothing wrong and muta just doesnt know professional accounting

[hasty grail]

normally when you say someone does engineering i want them to specify given how many there are

[shell osprey]

np, Ive just seen a lot of confusion about the topic becaus dramatubers regurgitating one another is like a long game of gartik phone

[hasty grail]

mind you, i mostly relied on KarlJobst for that drama specifically
did the person go through his vids to counter? otherwise the main issue with that drama specifically was that the money never hit the charity

[shell osprey]

the guy was saying that overall he agrees that the completionist was making a total mess of things and looked super sketchy

but was just pointing out that the actual paperwork was fine, when muta and jobst claimed the numbers didnt add up

the vid's over an hour long and very dry because it's a lesson on charity accounting for the most part 😂

[hasty grail]

fair enough

[shell osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB8QnRZDHwQ

the main point made is that if you're some online content creator and think someone else has done a naughty, there will probably come a point where you should hire a professional in the relevant field to check your opinion rather than just asserting it

[winged osprey]

My life will be in shambles if I find out Angela Collier is not a real physicist

However if Sabine Hossenfelder turns out to be a fraud I wouldn't be surprised at all

[shell osprey]

tbf I think the signs were on the wall for mutahar, and he only got by this long because people who'd notice aren't interested in his content

some of the funnier clips people found were of him talking about developing cutting edge video codecs, or making an automatic game texture AI upscaling tool he'll sell to microsoft

[hollow kiln]

Social engineer

[hasty grail]

funny

[ornate kettle]

what was thor job at blizzard? is it like support with writing automation scripts (i saw the thank you letters he posted)

[wheat sleet]

QA is the one I know about, but he may have had more

[random ore]

Pretty sure he's stated QA and cyber security

[ornate kettle]

i see

[coarse python]

QA/testing iirc

[random ore]

Mainly cyber security blue team I think for heroes of the dorm event and another game at blizzard.

[brisk sparrow]

and created the red team

[random ore]

So he was watching for breaches and cheaters and being the defending "blue" team.

[analog imp]

Yee, it’s like when I say I was an Aircrew Egress Systems craftsman for 11, years and worked on 4 different aircraft… they seem to think I worked on all of them…. And flew them…. Even after stating I worked on the ejection seats and canopy systems x.x

[random ore]

Ah here he is

[minor nymph]

Not blue team.
Application Security.
We handled the security of the websites and implementation therein.

[random ore]

Ah yeah I was trying to remember since it's been a while since I heard the story.

[analog imp]

I had a sudden realization about Thor’s icon, and now I’m kicking myself for not realizing it earlier x.x

[random ore]

Also sometimes mix up some terminology. So always good to double check Thors posts where he can describe it better than me

[analog imp]

Doorrrrgggg!!

[random ore]

I'm trying to think if I know this reference or not

[analog imp]

What do I need subtitles for

Can’t you understand what I am saying?

I studied English at the bloody American university in Cairo

Maybe it’s tele text

[random ore]

Man this is all going over my head and/or I'm having a massive brainfart

[analog imp]

Bah tele text

[random ore]

Probably both tbh

[analog imp]

Hold on

I’ll dm it to you shark, it might be inherently political ish

[random ore]

OH THAT

Man it was going over my head

[analog imp]

Still a classic, and definitely older than 9 years

Think it was on YT back in like 2008?

[subtle gate]

I may be reading into this all wrong but...

"No ap we we"

[winter sierra]

i dont get it lol

[analog imp]

The icons

Stop looking at the lettering

[winter sierra]

im too dumb for this

[analog imp]

What is different

[subtle gate]

so a hat and two swords

[analog imp]

It’s an icon overlay like the repo guy, but pirate

[brisk sparrow]

oh replying to someone removes someones profile effects

interesting

[analog imp]

Yeee

[winter sierra]

yeah the detail is not good small

[analog imp]

But I thought the pirate stuff was part of thors icon

Like actually a part of it

[brisk sparrow]

i mean i dont blame you

[analog imp]

And I only just realized it, and I’m hyper focusing now

When should be sleeping

Nini!

[wheat sleet]

It's just a decoration from the Discord shop

[winged knoll]

No ap wewe is funnier

[subtle gate]

I thought it was big brain time for sure

https://tenor.com/view/jack-o-neill-plant-magnifying-stargate-gif-5640177

[shell osprey]

if you want to do something with the letters you can read it clockwise

[winter sierra]

lol

[forest glacier]

Jesus. I'll do it for him...

[subtle gate]

what are you doing for me?

[forest glacier]

NOT YOU

[subtle gate]

[winter sierra]

mine is better

[forest glacier]

This is the only interpretation that isnt lmao

[shell osprey]

okay hear me out:
peaneth oww

[forest glacier]

Where did you get it stuck? Maybe dont stick that in places it shouldnt go

[shell osprey]

car door

[forest glacier]

its the only one that can have a based hidden meaning if you consider acronyms

[forest glacier]

also that sounds like just death....

[shell osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/parappa-daffy-duck-meme-funny-penith-gif-22989686

[forest glacier]

[winter sierra]

lmao

[proud depot]

what if I've gotten it stuck somewhere its supposed to be?

[forest glacier]

skill issue

[proud depot]

ur mom

[storm lintel]

SG-1 meme spotted in the wild.

[winged knoll]

No ap we we

[subtle gate]

https://tenor.com/view/indeed-tealc-stargate-gif-4496552

[proud depot]

there is a vole stuck in my window well, and I am having a very entertaining time watching my cats stare at it try to escape

[winged knoll]

What is a vole

Oh, smol rat

[winter sierra]

creature

[winged knoll]

Hi

[proud depot]

tiny rodent: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Bank_vole.jpg

[coarse python]

pretty much
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vole

[proud depot]

it is my cats' job to catch them and other small rodents

[winged knoll]

3 times a charm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vole

[coarse python]

what have we summoned? who knows

[winged knoll]

Vole-de-mort

https://tenor.com/view/you-know-who-lord-voldemort-happy-gif-13514744

[proud depot]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-not-gif-13224061

[forest glacier]

Gonna be fun for me, in the event stream IS coming up like the schedule suggests, because Ive gone through and picked names out of the emote only chat over the last 2 weeks that just vibe as a troll (i check for follow age first) and highlighted them so if I see even a slightly sus message thats highlighted a certain color; I get intuition feedback If I was in any better health I would want to be a mod but I drop out way too much as it is lol

[subtle gate]

oh yea Thor comes back to stream tonight doesn't he?

[fringe fractal]

I run a title logger since 2023. Thor’s title was last updated today at <t:1755233370:t>, so my guess is Yes.

[subtle gate]

figures he's been really consistent with his times, the fact that the time corrilates perfectly with my bed time is my problem really

[fringe fractal]

ah that’s a bummer

[subtle gate]

yea it is

had the same problem in Star Conflict where I was in a clan that had a European as the boss leader guy

[forest glacier]

ROFL someone on my list got platform banned already

[proud depot]

how do you even troll in emote only chat?

[forest glacier]

well for one, middle finger emoji?

[proud depot]

but thats not an emote, and can't be used in emote only chat

[forest glacier]

Wanna bet?

yellow highlight also means first time chatter

one would have to have intuition to understand anyway, 75% of the time Im right with these highlights

(mod disclaimer: MOVING ON 👍 )

[subtle gate]

why have I never seen YarrDance before?

is it new?

[proud depot]

its been around for a bit

[subtle gate]

there also was an emote like stonks but downward with a freaked out look instead but I can't remember what it was called

[forest glacier]

yarrStinks

[ocean agate]

7s confirmed

[forest glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/house-house-blowing-up-expolison-explosion-gif-21775191

[subtle gate]

https://tenor.com/view/zdziwienie-konsternacja-zaskoczenie-degustacja-facepalm-gif-21618059

[high canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-lion-king-lion-king-monkey-talking-rafiki-gif-17580008

[forest glacier]

o shit we're duning it looks like. I wonder if anyone upkept Thors base

[frosty mural]

[subtle gate]

https://tenor.com/view/final-countdown-countdown-europe-counting-music-video-gif-4789617

[coarse python]

kronos maybe?

[wicked schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-titanic-gif-6151932

[forest glacier]

Tho I hope he's not too distraught by the continued shifting from PVP to PVE game...

[forest glacier]

🤷‍♂️ would have to have been off stream if he was, he wasnt on stream

[subtle gate]

here we go

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/987123333659250688/1345539590718623846/ThorGoodLORD.gif

[wicked schooner]

WE LIVE

[subtle gate]

I am alive I guess

[proud depot]

https://tenor.com/view/mulan-disney-mushu-eddie-murphy-i-live-gif-3560203

[wicked schooner]

And Heimdall shall be awoken from its slumber

[subtle gate]

[coarse python]

prepare for the the worst, hope for the best, shields up, tickets ready, and remember to think about any point presented before you believe it

[subtle gate]

all hail steak

[ocean agate]

this looks new UI

[winged knoll]

pepega

too bad i subbed on youtube

[winter sierra]

Lapel. e has been spread

[wicked schooner]

Oh man that looks epic

[marsh forge]

I'm kinda OOTL - what's the deal with Lapel e?

[wicked schooner]

https://ferrets.piratesoftware.wiki/w/images/ferrets/8/8e/Henrys_first_words.png
Henry's first words

[marsh forge]

Ah, Thanks.

[teal zodiac]

Yeeeee, stream ⭐
Also, good morning peeps

[wicked schooner]

Moooooooooooornin

[subtle gate]

Lift! hail back to that thing

[winged knoll]

!tts

[dapper raven]

You can have Text To Speech/Talk To Streamer (TTS) for any bit donation 500 or higher. Once submitted, your message will be added to The Queue, which Thor activates manually. If Thor does not get to your message by the end of stream it will become 'Debt' on the 'Debt-Tracker' channel in Discord. Thor pays out to charity when that value hits $7,777 or more. Answered TTS questions are timestamped in Discord in the answered-tts channel.

[subtle gate]

good morning

[winged knoll]

hmm why i can't choose 500 bits to cheer XD

only 100 and 1000, no in between

[subtle gate]

do 100, 5 times

[marsh forge]

can't you just Type <Amount>?

or Cheer<Amount>

[winged knoll]

ah ok

[subtle gate]

I have to sleep before it becomes the morning

[winged knoll]

i'm not good with twitch

ah sad it doesn't go to tts queue

[wicked schooner]

wdym?

[knotty marsh]

The UI element for it isn't visible, but it all goes in the queue

[winged knoll]

i tried

[wicked schooner]

Oh its in the queue i think

[winged knoll]

aww man i gotta leave

someone clip it once he got to that part plz

no ap we we

[knotty marsh]

It'll be in #answered-tts

[wicked schooner]

You can go to https://discord.com/channels/162034058736435201/1183598424466145341 once thor reaches your message

Just search for your twitch username and see if he answered your message

[winged knoll]

ah nice thank

first time throwing bits

[willow fossil]

Did Thor remove all his VoDs or is it Twitch being twitch?

[jolly sky]

Running theory is he's privated his twitch and youtube vods. Another user mentioned earlier in the stream that he's moving things around

[north relic]

@jolly sky Do you know if he's addressed HB update yet?

[jolly sky]

What do you mean by this

What needs addressing?

[north relic]

Waiting on update

[jolly sky]

Check the steam store. Updates have been happening monthly for about 8 months now

[boreal flower]

probably asking about this month's update; the guy just came back from a two week vacation, he'll probably say or post something about it once he's back in the stream groove

[daring bobcat]

I'm not reading twitch chat, is it a smoldering heap as expected?

[boreal flower]

cuz yeah updates are usually at about the start of the month but that's also when he went on his vacation so i figure he's been writing during it too and hasn't said anything about it yet

uhh very slight embers trying to flare up

[north relic]

Yeah also expected a big update out of this vacation since he alluded to working on things...

[boreal flower]

but it is early in stream so wait for the americans to be awake

[daring bobcat]

do you know what a vacation means

[desert wasp]

hey pal

[boreal flower]

yeah he's been visibly working on blockgame, but whenever he works on heartbound, he keeps that very close to chest

[desert wasp]

👋

[north relic]

Morning

[desert wasp]

Top of the morning to you too

[north relic]

Yeah. Seen the blockgame stuff

[boreal flower]

so honestly we don't know how much he's gotten done until he tells/shows us

maybe once tts queue starts going we'll get someone asking about it

[frosty mural]

tts channel borked, or no tts played yet?

[boreal flower]

none played yet

oop tts starting now, he's finally gonna play thru some

cursed quest!

[dusky grove]

i mean... vacation is usually not filled with work. quite the opposite actually

[north relic]

It is when you have a project due

At least for me anyways!

[dusky grove]

yeesh, my condolences

can't even relax

[azure glen]

Sounds like a you problem. Let the man enjoy his vacation. If he has updates he will share them through the appropriate channels.

[desert wasp]

It feel like me and my English sometimes

[daring bobcat]

actual skill issue, you need to learn how to manage rest time during a project

it's invaluable

[north relic]

There are things called deadlines

[azure glen]

Heartbound has no deadline so it doesn't apply to it

[north relic]

I think it should at this point IMO

[daring bobcat]

again, if you can't learn how to allow rest while working, you're on the highway to burnout

[azure glen]

Sounds again like a you problem

[north relic]

Technically yes, I did buy the game

Guess its a "you problem" along with all the other sales

[daring bobcat]

buying an early access game is a you problem

[north relic]

It was EA 8 years ago no?

[daring bobcat]

it's done when it's done

no expectations

[stone prairie]

You go write your own choose your own adventure were the reader gets to make choices for almost every dialouge response and different outcomes for all of them and let us know when its done being written.

[daring bobcat]

I'll buy the game when it's 1.0

[north relic]

My point is its sometimes easier to get things done if you set a hard deadline and work towards it

[stone prairie]

What works for one person doesn't necessarily work for another. Specially where things like story writting are concerned. Creativity for different people requires different methods. Otherwise every author would churn out books like clockwork on the same schedules instead of vastly different publishing timeframes.

[coarse python]

But if you set a deadline too soon, you can end up with a rushed end product

[swift star]

People don't seem to understand or appreciate that game dev is an iterative process.

[north relic]

No I think people understand that quite well it's just theres general expectations for how long things take, theres leeway on those typical time periods however it gets to a point where... You sort of lose hope

[daring bobcat]

again, you problem

why are you hoping for something not done

[north relic]

It's all well and good saying you problem, but the problem is of the end user of the product... You're implying the dev shouldn't care about them at all... If so why make a game for the public anyway? Why not just make it for yourself?

[worthy ivy]

mawnin' chat

are we having another reeee the EA game I bought in EA knowing full well it was in EA and might potentially never be finished hasn't released yet moment?

[daring bobcat]

^

nailed it

[north relic]

Well I hope it will be finished. For Thor's sake too

[coarse python]

Yea, I can see that
But on the other hand, you sometimes end up with stuff like Silksong where the community has lost their minds and sacrificed 3 people, and they still (mostly) have hope

[earnest spire]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-yorkshire-tea-ahhh-gif-14570396

[daring bobcat]

man I love riffing on skong at times

they're victims of their own hype

[coarse python]

IIRC once the chapter that's being worked on is finished, it'll release in 1.0

[worthy ivy]

full disclosure I'm waiting for full release myself before I buy

but when I got burned on Banished I took responsibility for my decision to buy into an EA product

(damn, that was a game with hella potential... IIRC there's mods that tidy it up a bit? any Banished goblins in the know in chat?)

[boreal flower]

i haven't really messed with too many mods in Banished but there's quite a lot yeah

might need to find a more comprehensive list of QOL mods in the steam forums or something

[coarse python]

Unfortunately there's likely not going to be many good quality reviews of Heartbound because it's all being tainted by emotionally charged rhetoric and bias

At least in current day

[desert wasp]

You can buy the demo now

[wicked schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/buy-the-demo-piratesoftware-thor-gif-2965959134657331482

[worthy ivy]

you think I'm made of money?
am self-employed DJ, the bank 'aint gonna let me take out the three mortgage loans I'll need... 🙁

[coarse python]

Yeah, but I need both my kidneys for the foreseeable future

[worthy ivy]

self-employed unemployed

[crimson horizon]

<@&362005405901127710> There seems to be an identity thief in this server, @desert wasp, account flipull2, or something. I want to fix this issue as soon as possible and send the message that this is not allowed. Could you help me with that?

[rotund trout]

please make a #mod-ticket

[crimson horizon]

normally you guys don't have problems with banning people immediately

and spreading a message of what is allowed and what not

[wet coral]

facepalm

[rotund trout]

if you have an issue, please make a mod ticket

[daring bobcat]

empty account reporting an account with activity to be banned 🤔

[coarse python]

Could be a bit, could be something else, could be a troll, not enough information for me to determine

[crimson horizon]

I made a mod ticket, if that's what you prefer. And I asked what Discord thinks of this ToS offence

have a nice day

[wet coral]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. We dont work on a he said they said system.

[desert wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/tommy-wiseau-oh-hi-mark-hey-mark-gif-17296134

👋

welcome to the server

[daring bobcat]

hella elaborate bit if that's the case

[worthy ivy]

did I miss the punch and judy show?

love me some puppet theater

[boreal flower]

idk i was looking at the steam workshop for Banished mods

[worthy ivy]

ngl my favourite punch and judy story is the one where Mr Punch accuses Judy of ID theft - shit's hillarious

[winter sierra]

what is going on here

[kindred sedge]

Lapel. e

[coarse python]

Not sure
I haven't been paying that much attention after my whole shields up thing

[haughty crow]

To add some context (which I am sure Mark did in the mod ticket, but just in case), I think @crimson horizon just wasn’t aware of the way mod ticketing worked at first. The account changed its name now, but previously had the same name. He’s coming from Quintheo’s server where he’s quite active (and I float around as I think I mentioned to you once) and noticed mirror-him over there saying things here.

I will say I think it is funny we have a mirror-him though.

[kindred sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/wh-gif-4365587

[coarse python]

So two people having the same nickname over two servers. Seems alright to me

[haughty crow]

I was just noting why Mark even bothered to say anything, because after the name got changed, the message doesn’t make sense without context.

But yeah, Mark and Jark.

[coarse locust]

Waking up to Thor streaming again

https://tenor.com/view/the-return-of-the-king-lord-of-the-rings-ro-tk-title-card-gif-22191928

[wicked schooner]

Return of the Goblin King

[silent plank]

you remind me of a babe

[worthy ivy]

what babe?

[silent plank]

pig on a wing

[worthy ivy]

sadge

the answer we were looking for was "the babe with the power"

what power?

the power of voodoo etc

but also 😆

[silent plank]

yea i know the song

so i do a double switcheroo to pink floyd

[worthy ivy]

you know I think I saw that movie waaay back
no footage found though - is it any good?

[silent plank]

😈

[silent plank]

footage of a movie? it's lost media now? lol

i mean the movie is aight, i dont like staring at bowie's junk tho

[worthy ivy]

no, no footage found as in I can't remember a single thing about it!

[silent plank]

ah

[worthy ivy]

I'm pretty sure Terry Jones put all those crotch shots in because he thought it was hillarious

i think it was a terry jones screenplay?

iirc

[silent plank]

it's stabbing me in the eyes 🥲

[worthy ivy]

them python lads was off the hook

(also, it was Babe I have no footage found for)
must have seen labyrinth at least 20 times

maybe even 30/40

lost count

[silent plank]

dance magic dance

[signal shard]

https://tenor.com/view/not-tommy-gif-25378561

[desert wasp]

Now Mark can be an official resident here

[opaque raven]

How is the stream going my peeps?

[winged knoll]

ah shit my tts isn't in the list

i don't know how this work

[wicked schooner]

That means he hasnt reached your message yet perhaps

[winged knoll]

oh

no ap we we

[wicked schooner]

You can make a https://discord.com/channels/162034058736435201/1178193550060572672 to ask the mods if your message is in the queue

[winged knoll]

real?

[wicked schooner]

Yeah

[winged knoll]

yay chance to talk to ser Petite Jambon

[wicked schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/who-dat-snoop-gif-15116696

[winged knoll]

Petite = Little
Jambon ~ Ham

[wicked schooner]

Oh

lol

[winged knoll]

since she's French

[stoic zealot]

If your currently free at the time

Go to the stream and say this phrase

"oh Thor the great Fuego Taki wizard, bless us with your power spiciness and blue"

Promise you he will understand the phrase

[wicked schooner]

I just sent it lmao

https://www.twitch.tv/piratesoftware/clip/ArborealNurturingSpiderHassanChop-WPzuk2n8WU-SGnCP

[opaque raven]

Did it work? I couldn't find on answered tts

[winged knoll]

Mod said it’s in the queue

[strong wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/sally-cooking-fail-bad-gif-10762340

[river cargo]

any news on if vods are coming back? I'm at work and can't tune in

[silent plank]

What's the website again? That thor build a puzzle with his teammate?

[swift gulch]

Two weeks of downtime and the trolls still didn't find anything better to do

[wheat sleet]

The volume of attempted trolling seems down. They may have found a new target.

[swift gulch]

True

[worthy ivy]

ha!
just saw it in chat

he leverages his character and voice to add extra weight to his opinions
...
yes... like every halfway decent public speaker does???

"he speaks with authority" isn't the own they think it is...

[river cargo]

I've blocked most of the troll sloptubers and youtubers

So my personal feed is empty of thor slander

[wheat sleet]

Same

[river cargo]

But on incognito mode I saw a big youtuber make a video yesterday

so it seems it hasnt died down

[wheat sleet]

I got one that snuck through last night but took care of that one quick

[river cargo]

also does anyone know what's happening with vods?

[hasty grail]

Thor took them down, unsure for how long but this feels very much trying to starve them out

[wheat sleet]

I approve of this tactic. Anything to deny trolls of content

[marsh forge]

@winged knoll just got to the tts, Queue Number: 15
heochim
no ap we we https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2540544473?t=5h55m39s

[idle hill]

"He speaks with authority" seems like a jab not just at Thor, but men in general that have even a semblance of masculinity. It sounds very misandrist.

"How DARE he be confident in the things he's saying"

[wheat sleet]

GET NO AP WE WE'D

[knotty marsh]

He's just a very good orathor

[marsh forge]

as if the people supporting the drama know what "orator" means...

[toxic rampart]

I wanna say funny words about the funny little boy having a funny melt down in chat but I can't or shouldn't

[analog imp]

They were seething

[coarse locust]

They stay mad

[analog imp]

Orator? Or oraThor?

[marsh forge]

1 if you value correct grammar more, 2 if you value puns more

[analog imp]

2

I am punthos, I must pun

[worthy ivy]

sincere warning - this made me laugh so hard I literally (not figuratively) thought I was going to die

unspoiler at your own risk

||does youtube think Quintheo is Thor's second channel?||

times a million

[coarse locust]

Lol

[marsh forge]

i had twitch recommend his stream to me because i like "Software and Game dev" - sure, but not the person advocating for doxxing 🤦‍♂️

[winged knoll]

@analog imp for you

7 dorrar well spent

[analog imp]

“Quindoxxer only wanted the address to protect”

[analog imp]

I can’t view it on mobile for some reason

[winged knoll]

One sec lemme clip

[analog imp]

Awawawawawa

[winged knoll]

Awawawawa

[marsh forge]

"Was that the Meme from the Stream Chat Channel? Why are you like this?"

and then the next TTS played

[river cargo]

Probably just the algorithm pushing quindoxxer because his content was getting pushed whenever someone typed in piratesoftware...

[analog imp]

Yea, they are using it like a Wiley Coyote painted sign to attract new people

[winged knoll]

Gud tech

[analog imp]

I didn’t even mean to make it a meme!

[worthy ivy]

probly - still made me laugh my socks off
my ribs still hurt a little bit

[analog imp]

It just, I couldn’t crop any closer

I wonder what their stated purpose of their channel is, quindoxxer

[worthy ivy]

"drama & commentary"

(quoting btw)

[analog imp]

Mine, I want to educate people on safety, work safety, explosive safety. Teach people about aircraft and ejection seats, and also about not letting the small things get to you

[worthy ivy]

not my words

[analog imp]

Oh wow

So nothing actually useful?

[marsh forge]

hey, they are still useable

for when you need an example of how not to behave

[analog imp]

I might do a brief 15 minute segment on “don’t be that guy”

And show a bunch of things on why it is a cyberwarfare tactic

“Throw as much crap at them and see what sticks, then push when you find a weakness

Or when they are overloaded

[cunning jackal]

@harsh crane DJ Endtroducing

Also hey

[winged knoll]

https://www.twitch.tv/piratesoftware/clip/BoredTalentedWitchTinyFace-tx8KdNl-Fan1NMp1

@analog imp

[river cargo]

quintheo use to be in this discord and he advertised the channel as gaming and streaming news

[winged knoll]

he "loseyourself"

[river cargo]

so if you search up "quintheo" and go to the last result, it's really him

[winged knoll]

[river cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/eminem-chud-turn-scared-gif-27552263

[winged knoll]

mr Marshall

[analog imp]

What was the tts that got nuked?

After?

[winged knoll]

after

something bad i suppose, we don't need to mind them

we just have to worry about our present

our no ap we we

[analog imp]

I want a tts, but I need a nuke button for stuff not TOS friendly

[winged knoll]

Streamlabs have something that let you play tts manually i think

[analog imp]

I refuse to use streamlabs after they violated OBS’s open source stuff.

Tried to monetize their version of OBS

They backed down, and instead made the themes

Which I like making my own themes, it’s actually more personal to me

[hearty locust]

Has anyone by chance saved the blue prince vods? I'm missing the last 3 parts and really really want to finish it... It's like my favorite show got canceled mid season 😣

[swift gulch]

Had to do a mandatory active shooter training today
It was in the auditorium on the main side base, with an option to remote in via Teams
Joined the Teams meeting, it was just a silent slideshow the entire time
And then at the very end, the presenter puts in the chat
"The training is over, apparently the auditorium mic wasn't working the whole time; just go review the slides on Teams and ask me if you have any questions"

[winged knoll]

hey fellow youtube watcher

[swift gulch]

👋

[winged knoll]

ah unfortunate

oh my bad, it's streamElement

tho i don't know if they have a TTS, lemme check

[marsh forge]

you can use streamer.bot to make a system like thor has, i think there should be a description in the Streamer channels

[analog imp]

I’ll do some stuff once I’m set up in my new apartment, and my family can’t have their nose in my business telling me not to stream

Family has been really aggravating the past week

[meager wadi]

YOOOOOOO finally have background noise at work today TY for finally streaming again pirate. Im so sad i had to go without this since the previous streams were removed 😭

[hasty grail]

if you dont mind factorio, DoshDoshington has a number of great vids

https://youtu.be/emAOS4Tsv5w

[winged knoll]

Congrats to jam winner

[hasty grail]

congrats as well

[winged knoll]

I eep now gym killed me

See ya later

[wicked schooner]

Good night

[swift gulch]

[analog imp]

Wait, no.. that’s not the rules of the game

You cannot say “you’ve lost the game”

You can only say “I’ve just lost the game”

[ocean agate]

yeah ^ that one

[analog imp]

And then you have 15 minutes of grace period

[analog imp]

https://tenor.com/view/red-card-foul-gif-12053171

[ocean agate]

objection

[worthy ivy]

“you’ve lost the game” and “I’ve just lost the game” are the same picture 🙂

either way we both lose

[blissful imp]

he looks like UrinatingTree here

The Division 2 posted a big teaser for gamescom!!! https://twitter.com/TheDivisionGame/status/1956385939279810638

Tom Clancy's The Division (@TheDivisionGame)

SHD scanners picked up unusual activity. Intel arrives at Gamescom. Stay frosty, Agents.

X · Aug 15, 2025, 4:02 PM

[analog imp]

The former is not a part of the rules, you can only do the latter, you cannot tell someone else they have lost, only that “I have lost the game”

The game is not pvp, the game is PvE

[worthy ivy]

yes, but in reality, when I tell someone "I lost the game" they lose the game, so does it matter whether I say they lost or I lost?

we all lose

[analog imp]

I did that at a dennys in Anchorage, I said it aloud to myself, and a 72 year old woman behind me yells “F*8^! I just lost the game”

[worthy ivy]

joining this server did for my decade and a half PB

[analog imp]

You do not tell people they lost the game

[trim anvil]

That is so awesome.

[analog imp]

That is the foundation of the game, running into people who also play, not forcing others to play

[trim anvil]

But a random 72 year old woman?

Also, how'd you know she was 72? That's awfully specific.

[analog imp]

I talked to her afterward

[worthy ivy]

ohhh, you don't play the "all people are considered to be playing the game, even if they have never heard of it" variant!

I get it now, yes, you are right

[analog imp]

We had a good laugh, and she bought my dinner T.T

[trim anvil]

That's even more awesome honestly. Actually wholesome moment.

[trim anvil]

Oh that is so lovely.

I'm so glad there are people like that in the world.

[analog imp]

The game basically started as a psychological experiment, but we don’t force people to participate in it

Forcing people also leads to hostile intentions

[worthy ivy]

story I heard was it was designed by a couple maths people to be the simplest possible game with no win condition

but that might be apocryphal?

[analog imp]

It is more wholesome with knowing not everyone plays, because you’ll run into them more seldomly

Brb food

And back

[earnest cove]

https://youtu.be/KpCNCKMo8ZE?si=vZHiI-dfSYmyVqHw

Roblox is worse than i thought.

I feel bad for my friend who got so deeply hooked into it

And she's feeling deep buyer's remorse because of the reveals

[lyric venture]

Ill be honest, my boomer self really hasn't looked into or done anything related to Roblox so I know very little about that whole thing.

[gray mantle]

Samer

[hasty grail]

tldr: the corpo is lax on pedo enforcement and banned AND C&D a youtuber who was doing their job for them

[lyric venture]

I mean is it lax in that they are ignoring it or is it just such a large community that they are not equipped to moderate at that level (subtle but important difference imo)

[worthy ivy]

from the outside it looks like they're actively enabling it

[serene valley]

I think it's a bit of both, but the optics of how they handled that youtuber I'd lean on the first thing

[worthy ivy]

at this point there isn't really a better explanation

[lyric venture]

Fair. Then yeah, thats obviously a problem.

[worthy ivy]

few years ago I would have said "incompetence" but today I think "malice"

[hasty grail]

https://youtu.be/BJhF0L7pfo8

[earnest cove]

They also have unlicenced copyright ripoffs on Roblox and they're being actively monetized

they're worth almost the same as nintendo

actually 1 billion plus

[lapis flame]

they could spend money on moderation, but its more profitable to not do moderation. Them not being equipped for it might have been okay in the beginning, but they should have built that up over the years and it looks like they didnt do that.

[earnest cove]

yep they did absoltuely nothing

they also did nothing when a 10 year old got abducted from her home by a man she met on roblox

the police did that

[lyric venture]

I mean devils advocate but what are they supposed to do at that point other than perhaps (which im assuming they did or had to) providing details of the parties involved.

Also, aren't there supposed to be rules that things like that can't be signed up with people under 13? I realize obviously people llie and what not but that seems to be also an issue if they are allowing under 13 (unless again they are lying which at the time there is no real way to determine that from the companies side)

[serene valley]

I think there are <13 accounts for roblox?

but pretty sure they are severely limited

as in, no chat either

[earnest cove]

well, someone made a mock account for a 6 year old and actual suspiciously raunchy stuff were being pushed to them as recommendations

they were called 'condo games'

[serene valley]

buh

[earnest cove]

at minimum, ban the pedo's account. It's very well known in the roblox community that they don't even ban those accouhnts

[worthy ivy]

they banned a dude (who took screenshots and reported users to the police to be dealt with appropriately) for "vigilantism"

tells you everything you need to know about their values

[lyric venture]

Like I aid I dont know all the details. Obviously if they aren't addressing the issues thats a problem, though I suspect they are going to have a hard time changing all of that after the fact.

[earnest cove]

if you want a good video about that, KreekCraft

he grew up on the blox

[worthy ivy]

when people (or companies) speak (through word or action) is best to listen

[earnest cove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKOYXcYmxow

Here in this video he goes into deep detail of what's going on and the history behind this madness

[idle hill]

Wha, what did Schlep do
Was he one of the guys exposing Roblox's bs?

I guess it's explained in the video

[earnest cove]

yes he was the one exposing, catching, and sending pedos to the police into jail

and roblox called him the one dangerous to children

which is amazing

He was praised by the police for collecting all the evidence and calling them

but corpo says noooooooooooooooooooooo u badddddddddd

[idle hill]

Yeah, because literal pedos aren't a danger to children at all... /s
The more I hear about Roblox the worse it gets

[earnest cove]

it's incredibly bad

I didn't realise how bad the funny lego clone game before

until I heard actual abduction cases. Multiple abduction cases.

the worst thing is, the company promotes this game to be safe for children. The parents trusted that

[gray scroll]

"In other news, Gotham bans batman, says the joker is actually a pretty chill guy"

[earnest cove]

Yes

[gray scroll]

Don't give me any credit for that I stole that from the comments

[frank geyser]

And Roblox response was "not all media are good media", and as he made the media aware of it (again) they decided to not allow him to be able to play the game anymore or something like that

[idle hill]

Gonna need a class action lawsuit to get Roblox to fix up their act, or at least recieve a hefty fine

[worthy ivy]

aha! it makes sense!
Roblox is just defining "vigilantism" as "making us look bad"!

[idle hill]

"How dare you assemble on your own and moderate our game, which violates multiple local, state, and country laws!"

wouldn't the EU/UK have a hayday about Roblox allowing kids to gamble and date in a video game?

[earnest cove]

Class actions are already happening because of this incident

in fact, one of the state radios in america started calling for all parents whose children were groomed by somebody on roblox to call in so they can gather more people for the lawsuit

[earnest cove]

they did exactly that

[worthy ivy]

in the UK "the Secretary of State for Science, Innovation and Technology has publicly urged Roblox to improve its protective measures"

and that's all folks 🙁

oh and we also restrict "paid random items for UK users under 18 to prevent potential gambling-like behavior and protect younger audiences from spending real money on uncertain outcomes"

I think it's the more predictable outcomes of the other stuff we're worried about Mr Government

clown world doesn't even come close

[earnest cove]

State of Louisiana is the first to file a lawsuit against Roblox. More to follow highly likely

[analog imp]

He called us all stinky!!!

To be fair.. I am a little bit, been moving stuff and been sweaty spaghetti

[winged knoll]

Unstinky your self mister we we

[ocean agate]

we must end his Hubris

[serene valley]

so I guess someone made a PirateSoftware meme coin or something and people keep coming into the stream and asking about it

can't wait for the rugpull and thor getting the blame for it /s

[versed valley]

there's a cat outside on the porch

and one of his eyes is missing

[serene valley]

well you better go look for it then

[versed valley]

I wanna bring him in, but idk who he belongs to and i'm scared one of my dogs will seriously harm it

[analog imp]

I expect half of them to actually believe him, and half to double down

[distant rapids]

I have been ejected from the stream, my phone couldn't handle it

[winged knoll]

Crypto bro aint that dumb

[versed valley]

I wanna name him patches as he's a tuxedo cat with one eye

[winged knoll]

Well they are that dumb but they won’t blame kek

[ionic sleet]

roblox is now being sued by louisiana and schlep. schlep retained some heavy hitters that have gone after these big entities before

Schlep has teamed up with Chris Hansen

and the big roblox youtuber are leaving its program. shit has hit the fan

[blissful imp]

uhhh Unity added AI? https://youtu.be/Fah-1H4anTU

[terse pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/brother-ew-ew-what-is-that-whats-that-brother-gif-14318384540422820315

[proud depot]

I absolutely dislike Roblox (mainly due to its association with little annoying kiddies back when I was a teen), but its behaviour towards Schlep has been atrocious, and it deserves to be raked over the coals in the courts. Schlep seems to be a real stand-up guy and is doing great things exposing child predators

[earnest cove]

California state joined the ring with their own class action lawsuit

so now we have california and louisiana

[opal bronze]

It's over

[ionic sleet]

Your platform has a serious problem if the people make GROUPS to snuff out predators

multiple groups

[opal bronze]

No you just have to be big enough, you have a serious problem if a whole state it suing you for it

[ionic sleet]

also banned in qatar but idk if that is due to other reasons

[earnest cove]

Louisiana currently filing under "deceptive and unfair trade practices", "negligence", and "public nuisance laws" because they're marketed as a digital playground. Nuisence laws covers playgrounds

[proud depot]

Sorry this is just something that bothers me and I need to say something or its gonna eat at me all day. Its state of <state name>, not <state name> State. The latter usually means a college or university

[earnest cove]

the deceptive part is marketing the platform as being safe for children and then it's full of awfulness

[proud depot]

also nothing thats advertised towards kids should have microtransactions

[earnest cove]

i dind't know that

[earnest cove]

my friend insisted that no real money was used. i dunno if she may just be ignorant or trying to hide my concerns because i was very worried about her finances

[proud depot]

yeah if you mean the state/county/local government its state of, county/borough/parish of <name>

[earnest cove]

is it a regional thing?

because in where i live, the states never called states but universities/colleges will be labelled as unis colleges

[proud depot]

its hiding it through robux, which is the in-game currency. But honestly thats a microtransaction with extra steps

[earnest cove]

gah so it DID have real money

[terse pelican]

''Real Money converted into ficticious currency''

[earnest cove]

yeah those types

We had a pretty big fight when i realised she spent all the money meant to publish her game on steam on roblox stuff

[terse pelican]

Robux, VBucks, ETC, Currency that is bought with Real money, But don't fall under the same legal restrictions

[proud depot]

yeah in general something like Indiana State is short for "Indiana State University"

the only exception is Washington State cause that refers to the state of washington as opposed to Washington DC

[earnest cove]

pain peko she kept reassuring me that it's pure ingame currency. though she may just be confused of what i considered real life currency, as in only direct dollars

[proud depot]

IMO they should have the same rules applied to it if you can buy it with real money. Especially with things like gambling

[earnest cove]

they definitely should have'

[terse pelican]

I do agree that there should be some broader regulations, but then the issue becomes how it is globally managed since each country has different laws to certain extent

[earnest cove]

i 100% would consider those as real money currencies

there's one suggestion that i reall y like

To show the real life money worth automatically to every ingame paid currency like for example...

100 oranges = 1 usd

[terse pelican]

That is a change that I'd support generally

[earnest cove]

and every item that's 100 oranges gets slapped with a bracket that says 1 usd

if it's 250 oranges, instant USD 2.50

That's one of the most transparent ways without wrangling with eveyr other country's laws

[terse pelican]

Wassn't that something that was going to be implemented into Fortnite? or some other game

[earnest cove]

i dunno, but it's been requested for a long long long time by everyone who wanted fair transparent pricing

[proud depot]

the hard part about that is in mobile games where if you buy more gems at once the price per gem goes down, so how do you calculate the cost of one gem?

[brisk sparrow]

usually its the cheapest bundle

[proud depot]

like you can get 300 gems for 3 bucks, but if you get 1000 it only costs 9

[earnest cove]

Be clear on percentage of discount

Also still slap the USD rates

[brisk sparrow]

or say that 100 are bonus

[terse pelican]

Nothing like these dumb ''100% More in this Bundle!'' bs marketing

[proud depot]

though honesly I'd be fine with the concept of a premium currency just going the way of the dodo

[earnest cove]

technically very easy to calculate manually

9/1000 gems and you get the price of 1 gem

unfrotauntely these systems prey on certain types of customers

sometimes it's the mentality. Knowing myself and my own family we'd definitely fall for the whole 100% more in this budle things lol

my dad is one of those purchase minmaxers

[proud depot]

I did buy gta dollars once, mainly to be able to afford a garage to keep a free car in

[terse pelican]

I had some random hacker dump cash on me in GTA lol, had no money issues after that

and since I got the game free on Epic Games aaaages ago, It would be no big deal if I had been banned

[proud depot]

I do like the rumor about the reason gta V enhanced took so long to get to PC was because PC players are cheapskates compared to other consoles

don't know how true it is though

[terse pelican]

I think it's more that PC Players tend to wait for game discount, but Console players either buy it on release, or full price later on

I don't know if the XBox and PS store does discount regularly

[proud depot]

yeah I don't remember the last game I bought on steam at full price

[terse pelican]

I do, Helldivers 2.

No wait, Space Marines 2.

[worthy ivy]

that's why it sounded weird!
I couldn't put my finger on it

[worthy ivy]

there is somewhere that does this... I wanna say Japan?
but don't quote me on that it could just as easily be Finland or somewhere 🙂

[earnest cove]

nice to see somewhere there were attempts

i'm really not sure how i should feel if i discovered my friend insisted on continuing to play roblox out of obsession, despite all the issues

[ionic sleet]

my sister bought the kids robux cards. my nephew wasted all 10$ because they made respawning or buying a simple thing that should have been free base gamemode into a microtransaction. I will forever hate that platform

he did not even realize he was using them to respawn

[proud depot]

If I had a kid roblox would be banned for that reason

no kid of mine would be raised playing microtransaction filled games

[subtle gate]

I would make a game out of it like how long can you go before breaking down and paying to win

[earnest cove]

microtransactions are like the modern version of gatcha toy machines and booster packs i think

[proud depot]

or at the very least I would never buy them robux

[subtle gate]

I just never had at as an option

[ionic sleet]

yup thats why we stopped. however roblox is generally played cause its free and on mobile devices so the entry level is insanely low. i keep trying to get my nephew niece into minecraft. its at least a little better but it costs money to play.

[proud depot]

if you buy them the java version, you pay once and never have to again

I went without a video game in my hands every second growing up

[ionic sleet]

yea but thats the problem. not every house can afford to pay for games so roblox being free and easy to get into dominates children

sure i can pay but other parents might not feel like it even if the kid doesn't get robux for micrtransactions

[proud depot]

In fact the reason my parents bought me a GBA SP was because we were going on a trip and asking me to keep myself entertained on a cross-country plane ride was a bit too much

[ionic sleet]

yup. given economical problems most parents Have to give the kid a switch or ipad. not saying they are good for it but you cant call them bad parents either when you are forced into the situation

[distant rapids]

Parental controls. Don't allow your kid to buy stuff and lock the ipad out of purchasing power

[proud depot]

IMO if its just running around town doing errands the kid can entertain themselves in the car. They should learn how to do that

no need for an ipad or game system

[subtle gate]

I would like to disable in game purchases for my own misclicks sake

[earnest cove]

this is scary because during my parents' time, especially my mom, they lives with almost zero supervision. everyone said it was a miracle that none of them got into any addictive vices.

if i am i kid today, they wouldn't even know the concept of monitoring since they weren't monitored themselves.

[proud depot]

If the kid doesn't have their face buried in a tablet while in the car they are forced to focus on the world around them, and IMO thats much better for development. I knew how to navigate around town before I could even drive

[earnest cove]

my grandparents were too busy working just to feed everyone

and my aunt, a child just about a few years older than my mom, was the real parental figure...

[ionic sleet]

yea everyone is too busy working rn. its part of the reason why less people are having children. Specifically in america im talking about

problem is that due to work you cant spend as much time as you want with them. and then even with parental controls they may want somethings from the games due to predetory game practices.

[earnest cove]

Being housewives doesn't automatically give the awareness unfortunately

my mom is a housewife, yet she was just not aware about the dangers of the online world

the 1990s and 2000s were also way more wild west. everyone was ignorant

[proud depot]

I just wasn't allowed on the computer if my parents weren't home

[earnest cove]

in 2025 there's a ton more awareness about online (by people who grew up online too)

[proud depot]

also limiting time on the computer outside of schoolwork

[quartz sonnet]

I can barely afford myself, it would be wildly irresponsible for me to have kids. Lot of folks in that position as well.

[ionic sleet]

then what are kids supposed to do?

[proud depot]

I'm a zillenial child of boomer/gen jones parents, and they knew more about the online world than some people today

[ionic sleet]

too hot to go outside, too expensive to go anywhere/no time to take them anywhere

[proud depot]

I watched tv until my parents got home 🤷‍♂️

[ionic sleet]

my niece talks to all her friends through discord

[ionic sleet]

watching TV cost much more monay than it used to and im not even talking about streaming

and if you work a lot your are paying for something you can barely enjoy

[proud depot]

when my sister got older (like high school age) she chatted with friends online using aol (or similar)

[proud depot]

you can still get free over-the-air tv in the US

[ionic sleet]

they got rid of pbs so what do they watch, static? fox news?

there is just not a lot of free choices. its what made roblox so enticing

[proud depot]

PBS is not shutting down, its the Corporation for Public Broadcasting that is shutting down at the end of this year. PBS is losing CPB funding but its hoping to make up for the loss with donations

I can assure you PBS stations are very much still on air

[wheat sleet]

I heard a legitimate ad read on my local public radio station this week, so they're going to do just fine as a private company.

[prime anchor]

Damn, I was hoping they would shirvel up and die

[wheat sleet]

Some might. PBS didn't have to care about staying afloat when the government was footing the bill, but now as a private company they have to learn how to do that while still maintaining their image. Selling out too much ad space could doom them, as would not selling enough.

[prime anchor]

Yeah its better either way

They might have to be quality program now since their suvival isn't guaranteed and they have to work for it

[minor nymph]

This is incredibly nice.
I need to play vintage story.
It's been a backburner game for too long.

[subtle gate]

is it available on steam?

[wheat sleet]

No. Explanation here: https://www.vintagestory.at/faq.html/

[winged knoll]

Chat stinky

[high canyon]

Did the Shaye-Saw arrive?

[minor nymph]

Yes

[high canyon]

wasnt me, i just heard about it

[wheat sleet]

Cover the support beams of your house with something that isn't fun to cut through. Trust me on this one.

[safe agate]

must see Shayensaw!

[winter sierra]

sticky goop

[wheat sleet]

Was thinking more like denim or rebar.

[analog imp]

Who ping?

[subtle gate]

thank you for this

[wheat sleet]

They also have a very generous refund policy that's better than Steam's if you're on the fence about it.

[subtle gate]

I'm only on the fence because I don't have a job

[wheat sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/wallet-gif-25866507

[distant rapids]

That's so sweet of them omg, vintage story team is amazing

[brazen drift]

ooh i love vintage story

shame the bears keep taking over my houses

[minor nymph]

https://x.com/PirateSoftware/status/1956519861640958193

Pirate Software (@PirateSoftware)

I have no idea who the fuck these people are and I have nothing to do with this garbage. Memecoins are a scam and your money is better spent on improving your life directly instead of chasing get rich quick schemes.

Don't fall for this bullshit.

X · Aug 16, 2025, 12:54 AM

[brazen drift]

I will 1000% join if thor makes a vintage story server

[minor nymph]

I will be looking into it

[brazen drift]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-too-much-energy-shaking-gif-22511742

me and my friends played on a very tiny server, I'd recommend REALLY looking at the water/land ratios because they can be wild lmfao

[coarse python]

sandstone. just [EXPLICITIVE] up any sawblades even attempting

[coarse python]

or asbestos. not the fabric, the rock

[frosty socket]

VS servers are...finicky, and time is as much a resource as everything else in the game, food will spoil if left out for too long, and a lot of the crafting actually matches irl methods, including timings for cooling something metal that you're forging

[opal bronze]

any get rich slow schemes you runnin?

[earnest spire]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hammer-annoyed-giant-gif-24029759

[coarse python]

new! Pirate Software bonds! get 1 dollar every geological era! /j

[earnest cove]

what the somebody kept insisting that thor is reaping the profits against his will what logic is this

i'm sure it's even illegal

[opal bronze]

all of these people keep sending me money! stop!

[river cargo]

will this harassment ever stop?

I can't believe people are going to such lengths just to harass someone because they percieved him as wrong

[opal bronze]

this is tame for the cryptobro community

[minor nymph]

Cryptobros fucking suck.
I miss when bitcoin was nerds doing nerdshit with specific hardware for fun.

[opal bronze]

crypto as a concept has always been really cool

[minor nymph]

It was before this hyperscam hellshit reality it has become.

[opal bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/fnb-get-this-man-a-true-gif-25257480

the only upside from the blowup is you can look back at all the quriky stuff with a new lens and realise they were dealing with hundreds of thousands and didnt know it

like that pizza story

most expensive pizza order ever technically

[earnest cove]

last i remembered bitcoin before it became a monster, was that it was a real way to get around cruel currency exchange rates

[opal bronze]

my only experience with bitcoin growing up was really dumb because it was through those fake deep web horror story videos

and then i sorta just stored that away until it became mainstream popular and i was like "oh yeah that thing"

[earnest cove]

I remembered seeing convenience stores in malaysia accepting bitcoin for a short while before the govermenet banned it

[opal bronze]

this that bermuda triangle they're always talking about

[devout wedge]

bitcoin still going strong

[wicked schooner]

Is that the one they keep saying ships and airplanes keep disappearing?

[opal bronze]

yea

[frosty socket]

There's seriously some sort of magnetic anomaly there that messes with compasses and electronics

[opal bronze]

and this week a cat 4 hurricane just to shake things up

[coarse python]

it's really one of just a minority that are still going strong and aren't cashgrabs or something
even then, it's a good chunk of the reason why GPUs are so costly now

[coarse python]

iirc the Coriolis effect or something gathers storms there

[frosty socket]

It does, which also doesn't help disorientation

[opal bronze]

boggles my mind because money systems are based off of belief that you can rig up a warehouse of GPU's to bruteforce find a hash with like 10 zeroes at the end and its actually profitable

[coarse python]

it was (is?) the gold rush all over again
people trying to strike it rich and mostly failing
now it's just traded like another stock with caveats and addons as far as I'm aware

[frosty socket]

Also just like gold

[opal bronze]

and just like the gold rush, pickaxe sellers are the winners

[coarse python]

and unlike gold, it has no use in circuitry or other uses beyond basically jewelry or collateral
(nothing wrong with jewelry, but you get the point)

[frosty socket]

Oh, indeed, it just uses said circuitry...until it no longer works

[wicked schooner]

I thought electronic chips have a small amount of gold in them

[coarse python]

context: i've had this in the background for the last bit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA6QEpsGnHE

[frosty socket]

They do

[coarse python]

they do

gold is a wonderful conductor

[devout wedge]

true but i only trust bitcoin at this point

[frosty socket]

What they don't have is bitcoin

[coarse python]

fair

[frosty socket]

I mean, Bitcoin seems to be the only cryptocurrency that's somehow stabilized

Well...it and maybe DOGECoin (mostly because I just want the meme to succeed)

[opal bronze]

i thought bitcoin was very unstable

has that changed?

[opal bronze]

wait until wizcoin hits the market

[coarse python]

i think it's about the same as any other publicly traded stock
feel free to correct me tho

[hasty grail]

its unstable as a whole, but mostly stable compared to other crypto coins

[opal bronze]

one of the reasons i havent touched crypto even though i like the idea of alternate payment methods is that i put money in it and its been halved when i wake up the next day

and has zero insurance

[hasty grail]

the issue with crypto is that everyone is trying to sell their token as the next big thing even though its often not

[opal bronze]

yeah its all snake oil shit

[frosty socket]

I mean...stock market can be just as volatile

[hasty grail]

its worse than snake oil

with snake oil, you still have something in your hand

with crypto, you dont

[opal bronze]

i dont hold stocks either, but if i did it would be low risk stocks like investing a little into the top 500 companies, idk the name of that but its a thing

or as low risk as i can get it, thats just an example

[frosty socket]

I wish I'd bought some GameStop stocks when it was dirt cheap

[opal bronze]

stocks has always felt to me like gambling with extra steps

its not as engineered to prey on you im sure

but i just detest risk with money at high levels

but if you have alot of money, and you invest it wisely i.e small risk, it does generate an income you could live off of

[pliant helm]

Burp. That's why you put your money into index funds.

[frosty socket]

I can see a few stocks that are very fecking cheap RN that could easily skyrocket in future, actually, I just can't afford to open a brokerage account at this time Q.Q

[oblique palm]

With crypto, you go up to the snake oil booth, pay for some oil, then they close the window and never interact with you again

[wheat sleet]

It's more of a pyramid scheme. You put some money into it, convince other people that it's on the rise so they put money into it, you convince more people it's on the rise and they put even more money into it. You cash out and the coin crashes and burns.

There is quite literally no way to create money on a coin. It's all just transferred from other people that have bought into it.

[opaque raven]

Morning SC ☀️
I hope everything went super smooth yesterday

[wicked schooner]

Mostly

[opaque raven]

"Mostly" is good enough

[carmine sierra]

Board game night with Kingdom Death, fighting the Screaming Antelope, which is a monster that really likes to run around the arena
A lot of the no-target conditions on its action cards are just "full move forward in a straight line"
And then after every action it full moves forward again
So the fight quickly devolves into it running laps around the arena while we chase it down trying to take potshots
Basically this gif:

https://tenor.com/view/nathan-explosion-metalocalypse-nathan-chasing-goat-nathan-explosion-and-goat-nathan-explosion-run-gif-5698848169062160860

[real cradle]

and then there's the bird that comes after it and good lord that thing is the run-ender if you don't super prepare for it.

[carmine sierra]

We actually managed to take down a level 2 Phoenix on the year before

This one was a level 3 Antelope

It took us four goddamn hours to kill

[exotic forge]

Even if you're certain that you know a stock is overvalued/undervalued, the market can stay irrational longer than you are solvent.

Which means that the market can still prop up a stock/keep a stock undervalued longer than you can afford to wait.

While you're waiting for your predication to come true, new material news either specific to your stock or to the general economy may have shifted the true value of that stock. Someone else who didn't bother with all that and just put money in the SP500 with a yearly return of ~7% is going to do better than you over a span of decades

[teal zodiac]

That's why most people that really invest on stock creates or are part of wallets or investment funds. You can make a part of it stays on low risk long term, a part on day trade, part on crypto, its all up to your alpha risk

[subtle gate]

No Ap We We mentioned

I'm glad I'm famous now thanks Thor

[crystal axle]

some of the comments are pure gold

[ember ember]

I wish I put in some money on gamestop options

[subtle gate]

if you believe in what Gamestop is doing you still can

don't invest in a company unless you believe in it

[ember ember]

Could have propelled myself into generational wealth

[terse pelican]

Could have bought bunch of bitcoin when it was 'new' and done the same 🤷‍♂️

[proud depot]

houston, we have

[ember ember]

Nvidia seems to be the new target that people are going after these days

[subtle gate]

I invested $24k into my 401k in the 2 years I was working for Sam's Club as a Stocker

30% is crazy high though wouldn't recommend for everyone

I went back and forth between 15%, 25%, 30%

meanwhile I could've invested into some college courses

sorry didn't mean to sweep the floor and get my soapbox

[frosty mural]

To those who will watch whole stream today, could I ask someone to please timestamp when Thor looks at the PO box stuff pwetty pwease?

[subtle gate]

salute the bread

🍔

[wicked schooner]

You can thank @winged knoll for that

[winged knoll]

no ap we we

[subtle gate]

now to get Thor to say it live

[gray fable]

Should Thor play Minecraft?

[wicked schooner]

Thor has stated that he doesnt like vanilla minecraft

He prefers to use minecraft as a game engine and make an mmo like blockgame

[terse pelican]

Vanilla Minecraft 'was' fun for a bit in Hardcore with a Friend, then I died like a dumbass

[proud depot]

I still think he'd like create

[frosty mural]

Here's a prototype of micro version of same merch btw

[frosty mural]

I see another UL enjoyer

[terse pelican]

Man, been ages since I did UL

[wicked schooner]

I remember i played minecraft hardcore
but then i broke the number one rule in minecraft which led to my demise

[trim anvil]

No mining straight down?

[wicked schooner]

yeah

[trim anvil]

Yeah, you fell for one of the classic blunders.

[frosty mural]

lets pray subquake can release the next update this month