streamchat

[jolly sky]

....no. Thats how banks work here

[dark kraken]

all tracked

[shell osprey]

I thought you had some special privacy focused bank

[jolly sky]

This

They don't keep your government ID

[willow wave]

Guys guys, I have an idea.
How about we just implement a social credit scoring, like they do in China.
You say something that is seen as trolling, and you lose some points!

Can't go wrong with that system, right?

[shell osprey]

By this point in time they have your everything, 100%

[boreal flower]

this guy's giving me the ick fr

[shell osprey]

it's not like you're the only entity that can provide them with the information

[winged knoll]

Your opinion seems valid given the circumstances. Tho MC often exaggerating characteristic, like the one about XQC that i shared

[umbral gazelle]

My bank has not even seen my face.

[dark kraken]

thats a myth also china is so much more developed in so many ways

[jolly sky]

I've never given any agency, government system my fingerprints

[umbral gazelle]

i could use my government token to prove who i am

[willow wave]

Oh my god dude, you and the point seem to be mortal enemies

Did you place a large bet against yourself in this debate ? 😄

[dawn valve]

They're talking about passports

[earnest cove]

China

Brb laughing

[jolly sky]

Again, the banks doesn't keep, or scan, the passports. They don't keep any of that information here.

[willow wave]

It wasn't serious, just a joke 🥲

[winged knoll]

But the Pirate not being able to admit he could be wrong about something is factually incorrect, Thor has often time admit he was wrong about things, retract his statement, apologize etc ..., the internet just happened to ignore them

[earnest cove]

oh i was laughing at this line "thats a myth also china is so much more developed in so many ways"

[shell osprey]

he's saying that's what the video depicted

[dark kraken]

china is extremely technologically developed

[golden mulch]

Sure - not debating that point at all. I just think the conversation around the satire being the 'situation' sounds a bit naive and a bit obfuscatory?
It's really not been equivocated in any meaningful way. I was trying to get to what other people thought that other aspects of the situation are

[earnest cove]

China would have advanced the same way without Real ID. causation correlation thing

[willow wave]

I've said it before, I'll say it again.
There are thousands of small fixes of things, but the consequences of those fixes heavily outweigh the fixes, and so they aren't implemented.
So whilst you are correct, it probably would stop trolling for a small amount of time, that's not the end of the story.
Furthermore, people would find a way around it

[jolly sky]

I feel like I need to reiterate this;

[earnest cove]

There's zero connection between real ID and technological advancement

[golden mulch]

who is getting bent out of shape Dan?

[willow wave]

Yea but also it isn't

[winged knoll]

I haven't actually watch the video from MC yet, his art isn't my type of preferred media

[winged knoll]

Circle is a shape

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-circle-dance-round-gif-8619352562698623751

[jolly sky]

People trying to over-analyse a damn satirical and intentionally absurdified cartoon. Like it, or don't like it, and move on

[shell osprey]

the tldw is that thor is depicted refusing to apologise for giving some advice and has his legs contort and force themselves into his mouth

[earnest cove]

the world have advanced technologically without rela ID for 100 years how will adding real ID advance it. That's conflating 2 urelated points.

[dark kraken]

no im not saying that

[quasi raptor]

Friend you did compare technological advancement when talking about privacy...

[golden mulch]

You keep saying it's satire, you just posted saying you need to reiterate the point, I regret to say it so forcefully but you seem more bent out of shape than anyone else here

[hazy storm]

Depends on what you're looking at. For instance there is a lot of publicity around how fast China is able to build highways and buildings

But then you also have "tofu construction" where buildings fall apart less than a year after being built. There are videos of residents literally tearing a concrete wall apart with their bare hands.

Corruption is so endemic to Chinese governing that it screws a lot of their poor and middle class

[earnest cove]

you actually did here your own post
#streamchat message

[gray fable]

only meatcanyon video i watched was the moist critical one lol

[trim crater]

I caught MC's drawing stream, some one asked him about Pirate due to thumbnail of the cartoon in his folder, he said and im paraphrasing: " I dont care, dont involve me into this sh*t, don't care about drama" .

[winged knoll]

Can argue using semantic

so Dan is correct, it's satire

Let's move on

[golden mulch]

ah let me correct my point, satiring 'the situation' - of course its satire

[jolly sky]

Right, me simply pointing out that its intentionally satirical and absurdist against the people trying to spin into a form of attack video (for either side) and letting people know that its just a cartoon is "getting bent out of shape"

[shell osprey]

I don't think anyone was disputing it being satire though

[gray fable]

they're using it as a jab against thor to an extent

[jolly sky]

And that was a sarcastic message, btw

[hasty grail]

any context on it?

[jolly sky]

Proven untrue on multiple occasions

[hasty grail]

wait

[gray fable]

clout chasing

[hasty grail]

is it the old old drama?

[terse pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/annoyed-face-gif-4522918356523415114

[boreal flower]

ppl throwing more crap at the wall and hoping it sticks i'd assume

fresh coat of paint on old crap to make it seem new? idk

[jolly sky]

Proven untrue by Thor, Shaye, some of the mods, and also the partner of the very person who made the allegations

[winged knoll]

old old old drama

[jolly sky]

Proven wrong 5 years ago, proven wrong again less than a year ago

[boreal flower]

it smells of desperation, trying the same thing again, think they're running out of ammo?

[gray fable]

anyways

[hasty grail]

got it

thanks for that

[boreal flower]

i miss watching thor's streams on my way home from work ;n;

[gray fable]

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-software-piratesoftware-drink-water-thor-drink-gif-9478181560602122273

[boreal flower]

i have to live vicariously through watching vods

[dawn valve]

Ngl the consistency of his streams were a big reason I started watching

[hasty grail]

same

him streaming at the same time has made the summer much more bearable

btw the frozen tomestone pizza bread things... pretty good

@vale rapids why are you saying that they are new allegations?

[gray fable]

moving on?

[winged knoll]

uninformed probably

[hasty grail]

he messaged me directly and im bring it out for the sake of sanity

[hazy storm]

New in that they never encountered them before? Certainly news to me

[dusky grove]

the fact that they went to DMs is sus enough

I smell BS

[winged knoll]

they probably don't know that ||Thor code in Java too||

[hasty grail]

and he deleted the messages

nevermind

carry on

[boreal flower]

again, desperation move

[brisk sparrow]

cause its only being brought up again now that thor is bigger and has existing drama.

was disproven five years ago

[hazy storm]

https://tenor.com/view/gasp-latina-gasp-in-spanish-dramatic-soap-opera-gif-12960529119319901085

[winged knoll]

why do you entertain DM kek

[gray fable]

https://tenor.com/view/tifa-flower-cloti-tifa-willem-gif-26563301

moving on

[dawn valve]

Oh hate that

[gray fable]

think thor would play any of the FF games?

[winged knoll]

It's true ... i'm heartbroken

[brisk sparrow]

he used to play 14 IIRC

[hasty grail]

this is one of those that i think should be fully confirmed here more so than in a private message. if there is something actually NEW then sure, we need the proper info on it to break it down and learn from it

[indigo wadi]

Ah yes the old "let's go to Twitter instead of police" logic

[hasty grail]

regardless

thanks for the input

[indigo wadi]

Gooner

[winged knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334322

[glass gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/vorzek-vorzneck-oglg-og-lol-gang-gif-24901093

[hasty grail]

sorry not sorry

[earnest cove]

huh the frog fellow didn't come back

[hazy storm]

Eh

I'm OK with that

[boreal flower]

same

they were weird

[jolly sky]

I can only hope that they're doing some research to find out why Online ID's are a bad idea

[hazy storm]

We r all a little weird

[hasty grail]

if you are not weird in some way

something is wrong with you

might be a terminal case of stick up arse

[hazy storm]

We're all Stephen King characters in the making

[boreal flower]

yeah but especially weird when their response to 'what if an anti-lgbt country can ID me for be in an lgbt space? it would be dangerous for me' is 'you must obey the country's laws'

[winged knoll]

I wish one day there’ll be time that i can enjoy internet debate with people being polite, things doesn’t devolve into insults and people can get something out of it instead of just wasting each other times kek

[boreal flower]

like.. what are they implying with that response? it just felt off to me so i blocked and left the convo to play a game

[hasty grail]

ideally the internet is a broad and wide place to connect with others regardless of location

you mess that up then people will make "internet 2: now with crack, hookers, and LGBTQ+ things"

https://tenor.com/view/trans-lives-matter-black-trans-lives-matter-trans-flag-rainbow-flag-gay-gif-17486736

[winged knoll]

Internet 2: electric boogaloo

[jolly sky]

Yea that is uh...."whew lad"

[dark kraken]

I'm here sorry what's up

[winged knoll]

Welcome back

[earnest cove]

welcome back. just noticed that you suddenly went quiet

[boreal flower]

soon as i saw that i dipped out

[dark kraken]

Yeah I did some work

[earnest cove]

i'm about to go join my husband with re:fantazio tho

[terse pelican]

Go Go Go. I'm waiting for Thor to stream it

[dark kraken]

I just think a person should obey a countries laws? I dont know how that is so controversial

[winged knoll]

There’s nuances

[hazy storm]

Not all laws are good

[terse pelican]

Obeying laws ain't controversial, But when the laws themselves makes no sense, that's when the problem appears

[hazy storm]

Its nuance like others have said

[dark kraken]

Yeah of course but you still should obey them unless you want to get in trouble

[winged knoll]

But let’s move on since politics is a banned topics

[terse pelican]

Let's talk about the best type of Ice-cream

[hazy storm]

Cookie dough

[winged knoll]

Chocolate

[dark kraken]

One that requires government verification

[dawn valve]

Mint

[hazy storm]

Andvi will beat anyone who says otherwise

[winged knoll]

What kind of ice cream is that

[terse pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-and-jerrys-chocolate-chip-cookie-dough-core-ice-cream-ben-and-jerrys-ice-cream-gif-13784738385227006891

[dark kraken]

Black currant

[hazy storm]

Im. Actually lactose intolerant but i will gladly sit on the throne for some of that good crack... and i have

[terse pelican]

Wife loves Licorice flavoured Ice-Cream

[hazy storm]

But will she eat ice cream flavored licorice

[terse pelican]

Most definitel

[hazy storm]

You're wife is amazing then

[terse pelican]

That's why I married her.

[hazy storm]

Screenshotted and sent. I'm a private eye your wife sent me to make sure you don't bash her online

[terse pelican]

Jokes on you, she reads stuff I say online anyway cause I don't keep secrets from her, Unless it's related to her birthday/Christmas gift

[hazy storm]

She will deny it of course that's part of the contract

[broken lava]

if anyone asks for my id im telling them im rusty shackleford

[exotic forge]

Unless they're a KOH fan then they'd know

[winged knoll]

Is Licorice the black stuff that British folks love

Taste like car tire

[flat moat]

Liquorice doesn't taste like rubber

[frosty socket]

although, knowing MC, he would go that far for a simple shitpost, too, and make it into a high quality meme

[flat moat]

Good liquorice will have you eating the whole bag

[winged knoll]

i might got the bad one then

It’s Dutch, and i’m asian

[broken lava]

there is also anise candy

[covert monolith]

"the least offensive one"

[flat moat]

You uh

got goofed

[winged knoll]

[flat moat]

But also, it is a radically different taste sensation

It's something to ease into at first before you decide to start shovelling

[winged knoll]

After tasting Licorice i instantly understand British cuisine

[rocky venture]

👀 Licorice mentioned

[flat moat]

No, you don't

You need a sunday roast

[rocky venture]

[dawn valve]

Isn't licorice Australian?

[rocky venture]

Salt liquorice best

[winged knoll]

Lemme put that on my bucket list

[dawn valve]

I made lankashire hotpot the other week, fantastic

[flat moat]

Lovely beige food

[winged knoll]

Why is there

Beans

[flat moat]

Those are peas

[winged knoll]

Aren’t peas beans or im hallucinating

Why i am talking to a banana

[flat moat]

You are having a stronk

[winged knoll]

Ok i need to sleep

[dawn valve]

Might just be my southern bias but grean beans are better than peas

[winged knoll]

Anyway i’m sorry if i’m offending anyone when it comes to food, i’m deeply uncultured regarding foods

[flat moat]

No, it's fine. It just shows you are willing to be educated

[dawn valve]

British food gets a bad wrap for being bland

Swedish food too

[flat moat]

This is a full english btw

[winged knoll]

Okay now you can’t tell me that’s not beans

[dawn valve]

English equivalent of waffle house bfast

Those are beans

[winged knoll]

[flat moat]

That is beans

[winged knoll]

Yes

[dawn valve]

British have alot of Thanksgiving style food

[hasty grail]

we posting food now?

[flat moat]

I get a full english when I'm feeling rough from my local cafe for like £7 and I'm sorted for food for the day

[hasty grail]

i raise you a smothered burrito

[dawn valve]

God I made a whole pan of Mexican rice the other day and ate it all in one sitting

Absolute delight

[hasty grail]

there is a place in my city that can do a burrito off their menu with fries and smothered in red or green chili

its great

[flat moat]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-mr-krabs-mouth-watering-open-mouth-drooling-gif-10448017940825612949

[flat moat]

You'd be insane not to

[hasty grail]

i knew a guy a few years ago who could do two of those things for lunch

goddamit, i made myself hungry again

and i just ate

[frosty socket]

"noooo, he's gotta be failing now, my favorite youtuber said soooo!!!" type feel to it, now

[flat moat]

Drink water

Let the food from before absorb the water and make you full again

[hasty grail]

more of a craving in this case

[small sparrow]

When is pirate going to be streaming again? Missing his streams and didn’t see him say when he’ll be back.

[hasty grail]

on the short end, in a few days

otherwise another week out

[small sparrow]

Por que ok will just have to be my patient and go back and watch some old streams I’ve missed

[hasty grail]

hes just taking some time off

[flat moat]

Thor will be back when he decides tbh. Likely going to be another week as mentioned in #news

[hasty grail]

also catching up on some anime

[flat moat]

Very important

[small sparrow]

Good deal I’m sure he needs it

[winged knoll]

Anime is laifu

[small sparrow]

Thanks missed that in news due to the game jam post sorry ><

[hasty grail]

no worries

[hazy storm]

ok wtf florida

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/florida-reports-21-cases-ecoli-infections-linked-raw-milk-2025-08-04/

some of those infections are KIDS. jeebus

[broken lava]

there must be somethign in the water down there

[late pond]

Is it Florida men?

[umbral gazelle]

its almost if there is a reason we process certain foods and drinks...

[idle hill]

I agree actually
If you're in another country, you follow their laws, whether you like them or not
Don't like them, you can either work to change it (good luck to you), or you can get out

otherwise, suck it up

There's nothing weird or controversial about it

[umbral gazelle]

entirely depends if its another country or your own countrys

[idle hill]

I specifically said another country for that reason

[umbral gazelle]

going to a foreign country obey the laws and dont complain or dont go there to begin with

[vocal tree]

Thor's Twitch says the next stream is tomorrow (tuesday)? Do I dare hope?

[umbral gazelle]

yea

laws in your own countries if they feel wrong should be challenged

(not broken)

[hasty grail]

hopefully later this week

given that it was a week or 2 from the news post

[vocal tree]

I was thinking this friday at the earliest but we'll see

[faint gyro]

Everything ok?

[hasty grail]

Thor just catching up on anime

like any good vacation

[faint gyro]

Oh good

[umbral gazelle]

will he finally watch friren :P

and log horizon

[hasty grail]

good show right there

great villain in glasses

[faint gyro]

Tired of my youtube recs being anti-Thor stuff.

[hasty grail]

https://youtu.be/-3XPC7IFOtc

have a rimworld vid to change your algo

[umbral gazelle]

mark them as not interested and try to engage as little as possible with them dont dislike it that counts as engagement

[faint gyro]

THank yous

Does Thor ever Rim Worlds?

[hasty grail]

i cannot remember

[muted robin]

I think there's a playthrough of it on YT

[hasty grail]

new DLC for RImworld is space craft based for the record

[vivid maple]

https://youtu.be/r2bPcRcHH4E you guys hear about this? the best troll from woods

[faint gyro]

Great vid. Thanks!@

[hasty grail]

Hazzor has some other really good vids for both Rimworld and older ones for Dwarf Fortress

[vivid maple]

https://vxtwitter.com/sftsquil/status/1952444471116693900 seems johnny did the first 6 episodes before he died

Squil | VA | @squil.bsky.social (@sftsquil)

Here's a direct comparison video I did of Dale Gribble's actors in the new King of the Hill season.

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Aug 4, 2025, 7:00 PM

[subtle gate]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-rickroll-gif-6170438900012921997

[exotic forge]

sorry I just know the feeling too well

[oblique palm]

All of the actors just sound so done with the show. Like there is no enthusiasm of any kind in their voices

[wheat sleet]

That's similar to the time Reddit intentionally posted fake wow information to troll AI news journos

[wicked schooner]

He has #general_chat message

[forest glacier]

Holy hell chat went BRRRR. Lol Im sorry but if your ideals align with the World Economic Forum... your gonna get backlash and deservedly so.... Agent Smith... (call back to user arguing on behalf of ID verification across the entirety of the internet)

[wheat sleet]

It's what we would call in the US "prime time" aka that time around dinner when people are usually glued to their TV or PC.

[subtle gate]

I'm always here though

[forest glacier]

Yea but I have a feeling if those statements werent made there would be far less chats to read thru XD

[subtle gate]

let's see if this makes sense as a sentence

"the more the gamers lose, the more the gamers game"

[wheat sleet]

Needs a comma

[subtle gate]

alright

[wheat sleet]

English is pretty stupid. I'll demonstrate...

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

[subtle gate]

as though any demonstration is necessary

[wheat sleet]

It's technically a complete and gramatically correct sentence according to the rules of English

[proud depot]

thought I was at the end of the chat 😞

[subtle gate]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[proud depot]

some archaic uses, but technically true

[subtle gate]

I was going to talk about the cough he was having

[earnest cove]

I think Mandarin Chinese wins the award though

https://youtube.com/shorts/-wnMacMvbkI?si=QQeJTb1D3WUyq5GV

Shishi and the ten stone lions

Most languages make a sentence but this one is a whole story

[high sleet]

good lort chat was busy today

[spiral bone]

what, general?

[high sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-ducky-jumping-duck-jump-duck-cute-duck-gif-8773923656283969935

[earnest cove]

Which chat?

[spiral bone]

they're a fighting the front lines, there

[earnest cove]

What happened?

What caused the chaos?

[subtle gate]

I don't know what you mean I have yet to hear nothing for even 1 day

[high sleet]

this chat

so many messages

[spiral bone]

oh yeah

[hasty grail]

in general, Meatcanyon vid hit and Thor likes it enough to change his twitter pfp to it

and LyricWolf was trying to frame thor again and that crap hit my radar from another server

all in all, normal monday

[spiral bone]

stay strong, comrade

[hasty grail]

in short, Brozime's discord per Brozime himself wanted nothing to be said of Thor at all and the ban on the talk lasted a month, which expired, someone decided to share the LyricWolf bit and i got it confirmed here on which response goes to which drama via mod Matt

either way, things are chill there as people have mostly moved on from it

aside from one or two holdouts

[spiral bone]

right, this guy is a dramatuber?

[hasty grail]

Brozime is a Warframe/Soulframe content creator

[spiral bone]

no, the guy framing

[hasty grail]

and for the most part ignores the drama

LyricWolf june 9th i think accused Thor of heinous shit, June 10th Thor responds and calls him a liar,

Lyric posted some stuff last week which might as well be furry smut

you will want some eye bleach if you decide to read it

i still need some

[brisk sparrow]

also keep in mind: the previous lyricwulf stuff was around 5 years ago, if not more.

[hasty grail]

2018

is when THAT started

[brisk sparrow]

i keep forgetting i joined kinda in the middle of it

[hasty grail]

then there were a few smaller chapters here and there and now it looks like Lyric went off the deep end

as per the cropped smut

[spiral bone]

all i need to know is hes an internet threat in a sense

[hasty grail]

if anyone sees that twitter post floating around, make sure people know that Lyric is a liar per the June 10th Thor response

[brisk sparrow]

not really tbh. just someone trying to cash in on the drama with their own previously disproven BS

[spiral bone]

right. but in my mind, intentional slander is still a threat

[earnest spire]

wonder how he's friend doing

[brisk sparrow]

burden of proof lies on them in this case i think.

[hasty grail]

there is "proof" but when you also toss in the accuser saying that Thor deleted things

gets a bit weird

[nova bough]

the proof is a bunch of text that isnt even a screenshot

[hasty grail]

thus citing the June 10th post as the person is a liar from the start and to not believe him

[nova bough]

ye

[subtle gate]

this might be interesting gonna check it out

[hasty grail]

possible funny to throw at thor later

[subtle gate]

that's an r/whoosh for me bud

[hasty grail]

https://youtu.be/qpGx4foRdPw

in short: catch phrase of Fred Flintstone

[subtle gate]

oh now I get it

I read it as the blue song

[hasty grail]

https://youtu.be/u8AILJeugrs

[subtle gate]

https://youtu.be/zA52uNzx7Y4?si=PulVmxsKrO8ddiFu

[hasty grail]

Colin of Whose Line has a Flintstones joke in the vid i linked

which is how i know the punch line

[hazy storm]

Colin is a national treasure

the best canadian ever

[hasty grail]

9min 30sec into the vid

[subtle gate]

thanks

[hasty grail]

|| A dab of ABBA doo||

[subtle gate]

yab

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/150597048469684224/694756756777336942/snomdanceteeny.gif

[warm trench]

Wonder if we can offline hypetrain

[idle hill]

uhoh

[winged knoll]

Hype

[woven jolt]

Missing pirate gaming streams and sending good vibes ^^

[hasty grail]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-derpy-dumb-dumb-dog-derpy-dog-gif-3788913551531924086

[balmy bone]

noooo. My vacation ends this evening. I have to go back to work tomorrow. Dare I call in sick?

[hasty grail]

no

face the music

[balmy bone]

sigh... I guess the company needs its leadership back.

it was only a week of vacation 😐 But it was glorious!

first vacation... in ... 4 years. [censored by bot] me.

[woven jolt]

Why did you do a “derpy” emote. What I miss

[hasty grail]

no reason, just a funny gif

[balmy bone]

lol

[warm trench]

I've got about 5 weeks of vacation ... but I can't use it because I'm always in some software dev project where I need to be there all the time. SO I end up taking like - December off. I need to just schedule it and work around it - otherwise why have it as part of my compensation.

[wicked schooner]

We chillin

[balmy bone]

Yeah. I have another 5 that I accrued. Next year, 2 more will be added. I plan on disappearing for at least 5 weeks 🙂

[silver mica]

Wow. Such tranquility

[wicked schooner]

Hello 👋

[whole goblet]

I'm looking forward on messing with the files in deltarune as well

Considering Toby added Easter eggs for it

[silver mica]

Dess in the code

[whole goblet]

This is how I consider the routes in deltarune
Recruit All
Neutral
Snowgrave

Because recruiting everyone does affect the story more and more often now

Neutral is just you either failed to recruit all or you attacked

And Snowgrave is just controlling Noelle

Hmmm question do you think megalovia would be included in Deltarune

Considering Toby used that song is most of his projects

[silver mica]

Megalovania, mm, seems to me like it'd be tied to the Weird Route

Maybe against Susie?

[whole goblet]

Yeah that's the most popular opinion I see online as well

If it is included I do see it being tied to Susie

Also have you seen the easter egg if you removed the sensor in the code for the name in chapter 3

[silver mica]

No actually

Oh wait, You mean|| Toriel=0?||

[whole goblet]

https://youtube.com/shorts/JHXN2rCTfus?si=ERjYFJcl7jlt64X8

@silver mica this is it

And your name would be changed to Fun after it

[silver mica]

very fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojniEg2IcgE

something I've been vibing to

[whole goblet]

Also I have a crazy theory

Papyrus doesn't exist in deltarune

Sans brother in Deltarune is just a small spite of sans

[silver mica]

"that's a little version of me kris, i want you to have him."

[whole goblet]

I wouldn't be surprised if Toby does that

He just seems that kind of guy who would do a bait and switch

For the lols

[rocky venture]

It's possible yeah if it isnt turned off. Offline hype train record?

[fathom stone]

we did it once...

The Ghost Hype Train incident...hold on..

https://piratesoftware.wiki/wiki/Ghost_Train

"Our result was the following in detail: Level 31 43% with 1634 subs & 34671 bits."

So...if we really really wanted to...that would be one way to break it.

[golden latch]

The community is such a weird bunch of goblins sometimes

[fathom stone]

No kidding

[wheat sleet]

It would be great if the tts charity debt could be cleared that way

[wicked schooner]

Sadly the tts system isnt active when thor doesn't stream, right?

[fathom stone]

Well...here is the ting...

When that happened, the stream already began. So it was out of Emote Mode

[wheat sleet]

I asked about it before and stream has to be running for the tts to get picked up by the system so it wouldn't get counted

[fathom stone]

Hmmm....I just did give a bit.

Noooo

So you can bypass emote mode with bits XD

[wheat sleet]

Yep, or vip

[fathom stone]

I knew the VIP, I didn't think with bits XD

But I got a feeling hypetrain is off. But yeah, we once did it when the stream went offline during the strom hence the Ghost Train Incident.

[rocky venture]

I remember this occasion quite well.

[swift star]

I was working at the time, I missed this. Nice! 🤘😎

[fathom stone]

Hi

[opaque raven]

Yo SC, how is everyone doing?

[indigo wadi]

Tired

[opaque raven]

Have you already had your summer vac?

[indigo wadi]

Been on vacation since 2016 lol

[rocky venture]

And modeling

[winged knoll]

i'm gud

[glass gyro]

Doing Good

[opaque raven]

Voluntarily?

[opaque raven]

"Flawed Golem"
Poor baby...

[rocky venture]

Mind golems on the other hand.

[analog imp]

Saaaaame, though mine started in 2015

Unfortunately, in order to get an apartment here, they want me to have 3x the rent in income :/

[worthy ivy]

I don't call mine vacation - I claim "self-employment"
(but with no work on, it's maybe not the right word?)
...
sabbatical
I'm on sabbatical! 😆

[covert monolith]

they do the same w us here it sucks

[analog imp]

I’ve been disabled retired D:

[wicked schooner]

Awawawawa

[worthy ivy]

retirement is cool as long as you keep your mind active

[covert monolith]

depending on where they live and what their sitch it, tho, their income might be limited

[worthy ivy]

my grandad refused to retire, when Shell retired him forcibly he went and got another job elsewhere - he was young for his age and always believed if he retired properly he'd get old real quick

[analog imp]

Yee I have, however for reasons beyond my control and a topic matter we don’t talk about, there is a high possibility of losing the retirement just cuz “you haven’t died after 10 years”

[worthy ivy]

thas brutal - is that literally "you haven't died yet so we're taking away your income" or do they at least have some excuse that makes sense?

[analog imp]

Iirc the reason for the 3x rent is because if you lose your job, you can still pay rent or not get behind, and get a new job. With me, it is 2200+ guaranteed income

The last thing a renter wants to do is evict

[analog imp]

The only excuse was to “save money”

[worthy ivy]

if ever proof was needed we are ruled globally by absolute psychopaths all the way up and down...

[analog imp]

It is something that stresses me, but I’m not going to let it. That’s what they want

[worthy ivy]

don't make me put on my tinfoil hat now...
...but also yes

[analog imp]

On the plus side, if they do it to me, they do it to over 100k other vets

So I am definitely not alone or a singular target

[worthy ivy]

no politics but... the stress is the point - same with a lot of things, keeping us peasants busy with stressful stuff to deal with constantly so we can't revolt

end tinfoil hat moment

🙂

[analog imp]

Yeee

[late crown]

yo did pirate say when he'd be back?

[analog imp]

No set date, he is probably using this opportunity to help with judging the Jam entries

[worthy ivy]

said a week or two a week or so ago so I'd think maybe another week at a guess?

a man needs his hollibobs

[late crown]

okie thanks

[broken lava]

didnt he say this last tuesday? isnt it a week today?

[brittle rune]

The post in #news states "a week or two", no specific date nope!

[terse pelican]

Was gonna 'forward' and highlight that 👍

[wicked schooner]

Hello little ham 👋

[analog imp]

Alright, need to do more apartment shopping and then hit up the post office

[brittle rune]

Hello AIR

[toxic rampart]

Flood the zone~

Anyway
Anyone want some 98.8% pure distilled nostalgia straight in the veins?

https://youtu.be/4bMoHIllZOc?si=HEdlrcHMr_ycL7LZ

[indigo wadi]

@opaque raven medically retired vacation:D

[forest glacier]

I know what the post says but I'm still gonna point out it was Thursday not Tuesday that the "vacation" started, so we still are not even at 1 week. I'd put a dollar on this upcoming Friday. If not then 100% clueless XD

[wet coral]

HE is vacationing Valve time.

It is done when it is done

[indigo wadi]

He could extend it.

We should just let him enjoy his vacation and be happy when he comes back.

[swift star]

I'd rather he takes as long as he wants so he's properly refreshed when he returns.

2 weeks, hell, take a month or more if he wants.

[opaque raven]

Oh, I hope you are well!
Is it something that could change in the near future?

[wicked schooner]

Although I would like for him to get as much vacation as he needs, he still needs a main revenue stream to pay his employees

[broken lava]

are heartbound updates at the start of the month or just any time during?

[hasty grail]

any time

[broken lava]

gotcha ty

[hasty grail]

Thor did do a very early june update which results in it being in late may for instance

[broken lava]

yeah thats why i was asking, i saw that in the steam tab but i wasent sure if thats just a result of all the drama

[hasty grail]

that was due to a convention

[broken lava]

ah

[hasty grail]

even with all the drama, Thor still pushed out a July update

but because its mostly writing that he has to do and a LOT of it, it does take extra time

[terse pelican]

Writing Dialogue and making it feel right is tough as hell

[broken lava]

I get the reasons, i just made a bunch of changes to mine and wanted to make sure it wasent gonna get over written when i turn updates back on

[hasty grail]

the only thing i know for sure on Thor is that he did catch up on a few anime shows

including Frerien

or however you spell it

[terse pelican]

I can't wait for season 2 of it

[wicked schooner]

Its frieren

[hasty grail]

thank you

time to forget in a few days

[broken lava]

she was right to kill those demons, they should have never them them thru the wall

[brazen jasper]

that feel when germans sees people writing Frieren wrong everytime

[spiral bone]

hes about to watch log horizon

one of my favourites

[sweet steppe]

Please clear your browsers for a very important viewing of the King : (And distraction from the daily drama talks!) https://www.twitch.tv/ferretsoftware/clip/OnerousCuriousRaisinANELE-23F7fidNrHIE1Gul

[indigo wadi]

Severe adhd, unlikely

[sinful kestrel]

Oh, Thor's wiki page got deleted.

[winged knoll]

Too bad ADHD isn’t registered as a disease in my country kek

[winged knoll]

Rip

Maybe it’s for the better

[distant rapids]

Yeah, it was for the better. Wikipedia doesn't like "unofficial" sources- like clips and tumblr posts and... blegh.

[hasty grail]

time to create a wiki for twitch streamers then

[hazy storm]

Yeah those are unreliable and can be heavily edited

[distant rapids]

I understand why wikipedia does it but it also made sourcing a pain in the butt because tech security websites tend to delete their websites over time. Defcon what? Defcon where?

[jolly sky]

Good, I'd personally rather see it not exist at all if its going to be filled with inaccuracies, negative biases, and straight up lies, and a lot of things being said without sources

[winged knoll]

It was fixed of the biases, the content was very objective

[broken lava]

if thor had a git hub with some sort of public repos, an open source project would have been a good reference, even if not with wiki just anywhere

[white notch]

It was deleted because he was the main contributor to it. That's not allowed.

[winged knoll]

That’s false

[worthy ivy]

for anything nerdy like star trek episodes, or which sportsball player won the thing in a particular year wikipedia kicks absolute ass

but you want to look up modern(ish) history or currently relevant stuff of import? I find it to be a steaming pool of vested interests and shills at war with actual history buffs and nerds who care about facts

[jolly sky]

You could tell just from reading it, the person who originally put up the page was completely negatively biased

[white notch]

It read like an advertisement lol what

[broken lava]

he also didnt pass the artist or entertainer requirements

[jolly sky]

Oh boy now we have a new conspiracy

[worthy ivy]

yuup - Thor is currently relevant, ergo his wiki page was completely screwed over by trolls (the equivalent of vested interests and shills in this case)

[distant rapids]

The originsl page was malicious, but it was fixed over time- but honestly, just not to wikipedias sourcing standards

[broken lava]

yeah the sourcing seemed to be the main reason for all the salt and delete votes

[analog imp]

Gwah

[distant rapids]

Bwahhh

[white notch]

You can literally ho look at the notes/discussion for why it was deleted if you dont believe me lmao

[distant rapids]

I wasnt sure how to check, but i think wikipedia actually started the speedy deletion process themselves, could be wrong though

[white notch]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Pirate_Software

[winged knoll]

I read it, it means you cannot have a wiki page where all the info are taken from the subject (Thor)

[opaque raven]

Hi SC! How are things going?

[winged knoll]

It doesn’t mean Thor is contributing to the wiki itself

[white notch]

Hence promotion lol

[analog imp]

I remember when the Han Solo wiki was vandalized

[opaque raven]

Oh...not this again...

[jolly sky]

It read nothing like a promotion when it was created. It was a glorified slander piece

[winged knoll]

I fail to see the connection, isn’t every wiki page promote one’s pasts and achievements?

[white notch]

Clearly not if theyre wanting to remove pages for self promotion

[winged knoll]

They remove the page because Thor wiki was added because of recent drama, by the troll

[jolly sky]

Filled with inaccuracies, lack of sources, pointless topics etc

[white notch]

"The person in question has successfully fabricated his biography through constantly repeated and now found to be conflicting statements"

[winged knoll]

Not that he has done something critically acclaimed

[jolly sky]

There was literally a person there was editing it that has very questionable connections

[jolly sky]

"Fabricated biography"

None of them checked his linkedin I see

[winged knoll]

That is not the consensus

[jolly sky]

Thats literally all it takes

[opaque raven]

I would strongly suggest not stating or arguing over things you don't fully understand just for the sake of drama

[distant rapids]

Yeah that guy was pushing a narrative even in the talk pages, but talk pages are like forums, and note even the talk page itself says consensus was to keep, but wikipedia deleto'd it anyway

[jolly sky]

The only reasons why thoughts of "he lied about his past" are even brought up, is because the haters cannot/choose not to read.

[hazy storm]

How is it self promotion if other people initiated the page

[worthy ivy]

some dude said this thing in the discussion on the wiki pages so it must be true because someone on the internet said it

[white notch]

I mean they ended up deleting it didnt they?

Says pretty much all you need to know lol.

[jolly sky]

Either way, I'm glad its gone because it was basically just a glorified slander piece that tried to get legitimised, and thankfully Wikipedia said "Not on our watch"

[worthy ivy]

I swear, where's my super-kek emote? is there one? I need it

[jolly sky]

Yes, it says that Wikipedia doesn't let sourceless, baseless, drama fueled articles slide on their platform

[silver stump]

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-internet-tell-lies-buster-lie-gif-4986649

[hazy storm]

The chip on your shoulder is showing

[worthy ivy]

it is always a good day when I see a GIF I didn't know I needed in my life until now 🙂

[winged knoll]

That would mean wikipedia is somewhat more reliable than your everyday news for maintaining an objective views on matter instead of keeping stuffs for drama

[opaque raven]

Member since: || today ||

[worthy ivy]

is that the actual dialog from the show? I would have assumed it's a bit too early for that, but no idea how long they made Arthur for

[silver stump]

no clue

[winged knoll]

I had fun talking with mindless troll tbh, help me practice being a better person

[astral crypt]

they left

[winged knoll]

They are not right

[astral crypt]

I would recommend just ignoring them. They're fishing.

[winged knoll]

I like fish

[worthy ivy]

but muh goblining... 😆

[jolly sky]

I like to think once they realised their fishing attempts wouldn't work in the face of actual facts, they didn't have the level of trolling required to make up anything new

[opaque raven]

Ye ye, Arthur was pretty good, top PBS quality

https://youtu.be/iHrZRJR4igQ

[wheat sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-internet-tell-lies-buster-lie-gif-4986649

[real crypt]

Wait, was Thor's wikipedia page deleted? Why?

[wheat sleet]

Drama

Wikipedia is about facts, and constantly editing it to alter the truth isn't going to meet those standards

[distant rapids]

Please take it from someone who knows: It's just because wikipedia holds certain standards on sourcing, which neither party was able to address. This is a good thing over time because we don't have to keep fighting to change back stuff to truth after troll number 235 decides because they don't see thor's birth certificate means his real name doesn't contain thor

[jolly sky]

#streamchat message

[real crypt]

That's kinda funny. Never seen a Wikipedia page get deleted over drama

[winged knoll]

the page never existed in the first place

so nothing of value was lost

[jolly sky]

Yea wasn't it in some form of a "holding state" on the website?

[winged knoll]

still, it would be amazing for Thor to eventually have his own wiki page on Wikipedia later

[distant rapids]

Thats not how i would put it, lol, it existed, just they attempted a hit piece with it, but failed generally

[real crypt]

It didn't? Why does Google show some content for it

[winged knoll]

It didn't exist before the recent SKG drama is what i mean

english isn't my native language so i might have say wrong expressions from time to time

[real crypt]

Ah, I see

[winged knoll]

Gohan

🐟

[worthy ivy]

in return for the Arthur GIF, I found this which will be hillarious at some point

[winged knoll]

Duty call, see ya later chat

[hasty grail]

may your socks get wet and never dry

[wheat sleet]

I hope your soda goes flat and warm for that visual

[hasty grail]

may your shoes get slightly too tight in the wrong places

[worthy ivy]

may your pencils always be in the next drawer down

[late pond]

May you live in interesting times and gain the notice of those in high places.

[hasty grail]

thats everyone at current though

or at least the first part

[proud depot]

Yeah I think that was the big problem with the article was a lot couldn't be sourced properly

[gray fable]

Thorret jumpscare incoming, curtesy of @brisk spoke

[jolly sky]

We don't need to know when go to take a shit /s

[wheat sleet]

A lot of the comments repeated that Thor's biography was fabricated though, so I wonder if the editors aren't also biased on this subject.

[gray fable]

Hoping for a thorphiroth because the hair

[jolly sky]

Well, if they bothered to read LinkedIn, or look at the credits for the games he worked on, they'd see his name

But surely thats too much to ask for haters/trolls

[wheat sleet]

They're supposed to be neutral, longstanding contributors to Wikipedia

That brings into question the entire website

[jolly sky]

https://tenor.com/view/grease-dont-make-me-laugh-laugh-haha-lol-gif-27667380

[distant rapids]

Tbf, most wikipedia articles are edited by accounts like. Two days old, wikipedia is too dang big to be edited professionally by like 200 people

[jolly sky]

Oh it can be guaranteed that some people made an account just to put more of their biases into an article

[wheat sleet]

The account that approved the delete was 20 years old

[jolly sky]

Wise choice

[indigo moss]

omg Thor changed his Twitter pfp 😭

[distant rapids]

The deletion was wise, imo

[wheat sleet]

I think it's erring too much on the side of caution, but it's not the end of the story

[indigo moss]

He acknowledged the video, this is crazy to me 😄

[wheat sleet]

Meatcanyon is a gem. It's satire, you're supposed to laugh

[jolly sky]

Pretty easy to do when you understand what MeatCanyon does

It's just unfortunate that some people on both sides (Haters, and Supporters of Thor) will platform it as some kind of attack video

[ocean agate]

i just found out, so sad

[jolly sky]

MeatCanyon is meant to be the great equaliser

[indigo moss]

Yeah... it's sad

[wheat sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/raybans-glasses-maverick-tomcruise-smirk-gif-10037417157990729798

[late pond]

A LinkedIn profile is maintained by the person owning it.
Therefore, if Wikipedia would accept LinkedIn as a source, it would violate their policy of not self-sourcing.

[jolly sky]

Yea, I guess that makes sense. At the very least gives a clear and defined list of where to look for the actual, undeniable source (the credits of the game)

[ocean agate]

iirc self sourcing was allowed it just should be noted that its a self source

[real crypt]

Crazy to see how some here were calling for Thor to sue for defamation

[wheat sleet]

Thor should be on the credits to the Chinese version of WoW at least

[jolly sky]

Yep, I think that's also dumb. I watched it, I thought it was funny. Some people on both sides need to abide by MeatCanyons words;

"Don't get bent out of shape"

[serene valley]

don't worry I'm already out of shape

[late pond]

Would it be against the rules of this discord server to discuss drafting a fully sourced version of a Pirate Software Wikipedia page, containing only objectively confirmed and unbiased information?

[wheat sleet]

I winced at the demonstration portion. I was not prepared for that, but the oroborus was properly telegraphed

[remote pier]

Even then, when looking at the deletion logs on wiki, the wiki contributors left their logs as to why they that it was necessary to delete the pages

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Pirate_Software_(game_developer)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Pirate_Software

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Heartbound_(video_game)

[remote pier]

like dpfox86 mentioned here, some of these accounts have been contributing to wikipedia for years and years

[distant rapids]

I'm aware, this is what i have been saying

Juat keep in mind that all "talk" is forum like

So any person with an account could post on talk

[worthy ivy]

may your USBs always need turning 180 one extra time... every time

[jolly sky]

Ah yes, the quantum disposition of a USB is always in flux

Schrodinger's USB

[late pond]

It's notable that the person who initiated the discussion to delete the Pirate Software page was the same person who also initiated the discussion to delete the Hearbound page.

[gray fable]

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-software-piratesoftware-drink-water-thor-drink-gif-9478181560602122273

[wheat sleet]

I make sure to use usb c on evertything important or used frequently. I even have a magnetic port on my phone

[jolly sky]

Well, if the Heartbound page was also receiving a lot of baseless unfounded edits 'cause of drama, then I'm glad that it's gone too tbh

[remote pier]

which user are you referring to?

This discussion was started as early as 2022

[late pond]

The prevailing argument about the Heartbound page being removed (which was about a week earlier), was that it was an unfinished game that has little notability on its own, and that its notability was nearly exclusively tied to its creator (Thor).
I can get behind that. Let the game be finished and make a splash, and then give it an entry.

[remote pier]

and there's this user for this page

and then this page is a different user

[late pond]

I stand corrected.

I saw DiGamma's contribution on the Pirate software page, and assumed they were the discussion starter.

[frosty socket]

is actual dialogue, yes, that character, in particular, was... very dependent on what he read to come up with his factoids

[late pond]

This contribution clearly shows a bias towards distrusting Thor's work history.

[winged knoll]

check Digamma history of edits on Wikipedia

24 total edits, all of them are related to Thor

[jolly sky]

Obsessed much

[wheat sleet]

Account created 2022, only actually used in the last month for the intent of deleting one article in particular. Unbiased, sure.

[frosty socket]

can we make a legitimate one, properly sourced to wikipedia's standards?

[serene valley]

from my understanding if it's not salted, you could

[frosty socket]

i mean, like someone said, even Hawk Tuah girl got a wiki page

[flint sinew]

If your intention is to fix the wiki page, stick to that. Going after any individual person is not okay. We don't do that here

[serene valley]

but idk whether that even makes sense as it was just deleted and could be taken as a community drama fight

[broken lava]

hawk tuah is part of the deep state tho

[jolly sky]

LMAO That part about "a fierce debate in his discord server as to how one could change the narrative and create sources that support the correct viewpoint"

You mean, by providing actual correct sources? What an odd thing to say

[frosty socket]

i mean, we can give it a couple months, gather correct info and sources over that time, psot an article, go from there

[wheat sleet]

I doubt it would hold given the current drama. The article on Thor was deleted for the initial reason of this:

[late pond]

Create a draft, save it, keep it up to date and factually correct, and then submit it for publication after Heartbound goes live.

[frosty socket]

This^

[winged knoll]

just showing that the user that calling Thor "fabricating his statement" on Wiki have no credibility or accountability himself

[serene valley]

also when was the page originally created? cuz idk how they mean "obvious attempt to circumvent" if the page was made before the heartbound page was deleted

[winged knoll]

so their points are moot

[serene valley]

not saying it was, just asking whether it was

[flint sinew]

my point still stands to keep the focus on making the adjustments to the wiki

[late pond]

This part of the discussion page shows that the page was deleted, but not salted, including the prevailing reasons.

[terse pelican]

IIRC there was a discussion a few weeks ago about creating a google doc with information and accurate citations, Dunno how that went

[late pond]

This means that recreating should remain possible.

[frosty socket]

maybe do a draft for the pirate page, too, as he does have several games out, himself, and at minimum, needs a page for that

[winged knoll]

the wiki has reach a concensus of deleting all article until there's major news made about the subjects, so i guess there's no actual way to contribute now

So better if we move on to a different topics tbh

[jolly sky]

That was the other problem. Simply too much talk around drama and not enough actual unbiased information.

It was basically a glorified Reddit post

[terse pelican]

Yup.

While the Wiki page can 'involve' Drama, It shouldn't purely and heavily focus on it.

[winged knoll]

there's a lot of developer out there who has the same amount of games under their belts as well

[frosty socket]

and they should have at least a small page for them, too

[winged knoll]

the wiki maintainer say that if they do that for one person they would have to do the same for every person, which they agree that they don't want to XD

to be fair i agree with the wiki people on this one

[frosty socket]

ah, fair

[wheat sleet]

Wikipedia has standards for notability, which is one of their requirements to maintain an article

[broken lava]

yeah the mods of wiki deserve some props, they didnt want the drama and still stuck to the documented standards

[wheat sleet]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability

[winged knoll]

it's fascinating actually

[serene valley]

tbh the deletion discussion reads sort of like that to, bar a few of the posts

[shell osprey]

what's notable about wikipedia's notability standards page is that it doesn't explain what makes something notable and instead explains why robust sources are important

[granite basalt]

there used to be a site dedicated to showing a feed of all the pages removed from wikipedia due to "this person or topic isnt important enough"

I remember making a page for a professor of mine in 2005 cause him and i got into one of those early debates on whether information on the internet could be trusted. I tried to make him a page as a joke to prove a point, and they took it down within minutes lol.

[wheat sleet]

It's a whole big thing. Standards are based on the subject matter, but also have exceptions. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people)

The subjects: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_notability_guidelines

[broken lava]

as it should be

[thick patrol]

@minor nymph Hey, I know you probably dont know me. Long time lurker in your channel. I just wanted to say sorry about all of the backlash you've been getting. I hope you're doing okay. I cant imagine having the whole internet up in arms about you has been easy. Just make sure to take time for yourself and know that you're loved. 💜

[wind surge]

Is there any way to report those newly created only one topic Wikipedia accounts?

[sinful kestrel]

No, you're allowed to be a hyper focused nerd on wikipedia

[wind surge]

Yeah, but if they are specifically targeting Thor’s articles?

[carmine sierra]

Yeah, there's a difference when it's a piece of media or franchise, versus an actual human person

[wind surge]

Wikipedia accounts have all sorts of weird awards and symbols. Can’t you add something like a twitter community note to this user?

[remote pier]

those users accounts are either been ip banned or deleted

[wind surge]

Then let’s do it for this user

[remote pier]

not to defend that guy's actions but he does give his reasoning to some extent

[winged knoll]

But can we not talk about wiki anymore

I got flash bang by the white background

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-flash-cat-betterttv-gif-10690574645280585754

[winged knoll]

Can all the drama people use dark mode instead

[flint sinew]

[carmine sierra]

i.e. "I watched a bunch of hitpieces and they didn't agree with what actually happened, therefore the record of what happened is wrong"

[wind surge]

Still fishy, it could also be an admins secret alt. They are known for creating batches of accounts to go through them in the future

[carmine sierra]

That's a tall claim to make without evidence

I wouldn't go getting tin-foil on this
Until proven otherwise, it's just someone being a dick towards a content creator they don't like and people trying to correct the record about him

[winged knoll]

Hello

[carmine sierra]

[remote pier]

anyone can do their own due diligence about things and forming their own opinions, my dude. If you come to think something you think is odd, and you find other people who notice the same thing, it's a natural thing to look into it further.

[winged knoll]

It’s a legit ask

[flint sinew]

not everyone uses dark mode

[remote pier]

whether it's someone main or alt account, I can't imagine why they'd want to use this particular account to troll over a trival matter like this

[winged knoll]

You don’t tell me Thor also use light mode

[flint sinew]

i wouldnt know

i dont, personally

[winged knoll]

He code in java
He use light mode
He put milk in popcorn

Allegedly

[worthy ivy]

one should always at least consider a tinfoil hat for wikipedia related shenanigans
there is some seriously sinister stuff behind the scenes if you dig a bit

[carmine sierra]

From what I understand, the original article was basically a text regurgitation of every claim we've seen around from the hitpieces
When corrected by Thor's community and provided evidence and links, now the article is getting taken down with claims of being "fabricated"

[worthy ivy]

I mean just in general, not re: this specific thing

[carmine sierra]

And I will as soon as there's actual evidence for it

I don't assume that in every case just because

[remote pier]

It's not even trying to go tin-foil over it either. The guy was asking for guidance and for that other user exchanging with him to give him evidence/creditable sources otherwise as to why the page shouldn't be deleted.

[muted robin]

user joined today
didn't even bother taking any topic/interest roles

[flint sinew]

please move on from this topic

[worthy ivy]

is kind of why I say consider the hat rather than you must wear the hat
I like to take my tinfoil hat on and off as the situation requires, and wikipedia these days... a tinfoil hat is recommended imo 😆

[carmine sierra]

Understood

[winged knoll]

[worthy ivy]

but on a more useful note: a tinfoil hat is great for keeping cool in a heatwave (as long as you avoid direct sunlight)

[serene valley]

huh that's weird, the new leaf thing isn't happening

is that a per-server setting or did discord get rid of it

[idle hill]

Yeah, sure, I believe you

[flint sinew]

[lyric venture]

New leaf thing still works, or at least it did earlier today. I dont think it lasts super long.

[serene valley]

it was always a week or so

[idle hill]

It lasts a week or so

[serene valley]

idk maybe A/B test

[carmine sierra]

I think it depends on activity as well

[worthy ivy]

whitename leafs without leafs is one of the signs of the coming apocalypse iirc

[hasty grail]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-highlander-highlander-battletech-battletech-mech-warrior-gif-10434278136128334895

where are we dropping the lance?

also how much of a stiener scout squad am i bringing?

[worthy ivy]

the famous four horsemen of death, war, famine, and no-leafs 😆

[remote pier]

do you want me to be real with you?

I joined because I wanted to see what all the flack was about surrounding piratesoftware. And if the way I talk sounds off to you, it's just shows that you are quick to assume things about me, when I'm honestly trying to have a conversation about this stuff civilly

[winged knoll]

Hey i can assume one thing about you

And it’s

[serene valley]

is the meme that it's nothing

[winged knoll]

https://youtu.be/bTR9x10soiE?si=3S9MBZGwEPalQ-jK

Platinum disco

[worthy ivy]

don't mind me, just goblining
we get a lot of new faces coming through just to stir things up
good to know you're not one of them tho

[proud depot]

We've just been getting a lot of trolls lately. They all don't bother choosing any interests, and come out swinging wanting to argue with us. Not accusing you of any of that of course

[winged knoll]

[carmine sierra]

People are quick to assume because there have been hundreds of people over the past few months joining in to stir shit
So when someone new immediately starts making near-accusatory statements about the whole situation, it sends up red flags, conversation or no

[muted robin]

Do you have any idea the amount of trolls that have come in that take no roles (aka what you get to access the more hobby/learning related channels) and have no activity before immediately jumping into one of the general chats to start debating over a heated topic? I recognize that it's jumping to conclusions but at some point you learn to recognize the difference bt someone who actually wants to talk vs someone only here to cause trouble

But everyone else already answered first orz

[flint sinew]

chill

[carmine sierra]

And these conversations almost always start "civilly" before degrading within an hour

[proud depot]

So if someone has a white username wanting to argue about thor with no prior message history its a bit suspicious

[muted robin]

Also the sealioning

[winged knoll]

Let’s not bring color in

[flint sinew]

[proud depot]

shiny bluish-purple people for the win!

[worthy ivy]

heresy! the green names rule supreme!

[carmine sierra]

I've said it before
It would be helpful to have an FAQ chat or document or something
The people who don't care aren't going to read it anyway and will continue sealioning, which makes them easy to pick out
And the people who do care will have a completed reference document we can point them to

[broken lava]

these white names are out of hand

[proud depot]

👀

[flint sinew]

sending yall to new jersey smh

[muted robin]

I'm pretty sure you already have to read/say yes to the rules before joining right? I don't remember when I joined tho

[carmine sierra]

[winged knoll]

They can’t throw hands if they are out of hand

[muted robin]

Usually large community servers like this one have something like that

[sweet steppe]

Just breaking up the normal chat with ferret clips! https://www.twitch.tv/ferretsoftware/clip/OnerousCuriousRaisinANELE-23F7fidNrHIE1Gul

[proud depot]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-no-not-that-anything-but-that-not-that-please-no-gif-4091182799443435047

[winged knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-spongebob-squarepants-patrick-star-patrick-fight-spongebob-fight-gif-17721615

[winged knoll]

Hehe herny

[sweet steppe]

[remote pier]

nothing like that in the rules when I just joined.

[worthy ivy]

that's fine - these guys are canonically from New Jersey so it can't be all bad

[remote pier]

Can't say that I'm surprised given everything that's happening

[flint sinew]

[remote pier]

I'm just here to see for myself

[late pond]

I am also quite new here. (A few weeks by now)

I did pick some interests, though.

[worthy ivy]

have younse looked in #thorchan yet?
is kind of a trial-by-fire for new peoples

[wind surge]

Just a reminder to everyone here

[winged knoll]

Contexts and nuances matter too, but everyone is free to form their own opinions

[worthy ivy]

just remember what has been seen cannot be unseen

[late pond]

I haven't actually checked out writing, programming and game development resources on the Discord yet (although I did check out develop.games)
I keep intending to, but it's like a hobby project that I don't feel the patience for to sit down for.
Want to finish that big fantasy novel I'm reading first.

[late pond]

It's not clear to me which channel you mean.

[worthy ivy]

think you need the meme role?

no idea which one it is

[winged knoll]

You need meme role

[broken lava]

you learn to embrace the lock, study its place in the world, and in turn learn your own

[late pond]

Ah, that's not one I intend to ever take.

[worthy ivy]

in that case #thorchan is probably not for you! 😆

it's cursed meme containment - real cognito-hazard level stuffs

if an SCP was memes

[late pond]

Probably not. But because the name is hidden if I don't have the role, your invitation is not going to convince anyone who does not have the role already.

[carmine sierra]

(basically it's just a chat where people shop Thor's face onto other dumb memes to make something even dumber)

[winged knoll]

I actually learn a lot of things from these drama, so there’s some positive

[jolly sky]

For example;

[winged knoll]

Feel like i was able to grow as a person without actually going through or being the main subject of the drama itself

[broken lava]

poor brain sucker

[jolly sky]

and

[carmine sierra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/654955494460358656/1398832297599439001/photo-output.png?ex=689351d8&is=68920058&hm=062fb3a407d4ac2e8972ef176c7ea87584a6b781a665141a4ea419db7b485171&

[jolly sky]

And this very real image of Thor personally handing bread to the Mods

[broken lava]

there has been a containment breach

[distant rapids]

Thorchan containment breach, all personnel report for augments and weapons

[flint sinew]

[serene valley]

[distant rapids]

Sjfhhdhssshk oh god theyre here fjjfjvjjvjjjjskskk they're overwel

[flint sinew]

ah deep fried

[broken lava]

administering class c amnestics

[remote pier]

i mean for myself, I'm an senior EE student specializing in computer hardware. The stuff I'm interested in isn't technically covered here

[remote pier]

plus i gotta different taste in games apparently

[glass gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/stranger-things-fire-flame-gif-14920648

[serene valley]

pretty sure it would be somewhere in the science channels

[jolly sky]

To be fair most of the dedicated game channels are games that Thor has played, and are continuous, on-going games that people in the community enjoy. Feel free to talk about the games you play in the Gaming_General channel

[late bane]

[dry osprey]

Send help my youtube shorts now get infiltrated by drama baiting youtuber D:

[hasty grail]

tell the algo you are not interested

[muted robin]

don't recommend channel works best

[wheat sleet]

Tell the algo it's targeted harassment

[broken lava]

i gas lit the algo by clicking on all the videos so it thinks ive seen them

[dry osprey]

I just report and dont recommend xD

But still like

Randomly one shows up

[wheat sleet]

The latest one for me had meatcanyon screenshotted for the thumbnail, so maybe that's why it showed

[hasty grail]

then people look at Thor's twitter to see if he said anything and its his pfp

i still think its a 12d chess play on Thor's part

[late pond]

Has he tweeted anything since changing the profile picture?

[hasty grail]

not on twitter, but has been active in the discord

last i saw he was catching up on anime

[late pond]

But he didn't change his profile image on Discord.

[wheat sleet]

He's on vacation. Don't encourage him to do actual work stuff

[flint sinew]

[late pond]

I'm just saying he's probably just meming, and not doing 12D chess with the pfp.

[hasty grail]

https://tenor.com/view/ferrets-sleeping-ferret-cat-mustelid-gif-26311421

[wheat sleet]

Noodle salad

[flint sinew]

yes, all of you go take naps

/s

[wheat sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/death-stare-black-snake-moan-samuel-l-jackson-shocked-wide-eye-gif-7922961204564264622

[muted robin]

15 minutes left of work before i can

[distant rapids]

The sun is eating me alive. Time for sunscreen

[opaque raven]

Summer is finally over here and tonight is already 8°c
I'm so happy ❄️

[trim anvil]

Aussie?

[opaque raven]

Dansk

[trim anvil]

wait

you've already got 8°C in Denmark?

we're cooking at 23°C over here right now, how dare you

[analog imp]

https://tenor.com/view/take-me-with-you-gif-26090524

[opaque raven]

It's just today and tomorrow, rest of the week will be ~14

[trim anvil]

oh I see. That's still pretty nice for summer though

We hit 33ºC here today and it was terrible

[distant rapids]

It's 27 c where im at and its pretty nice compared to our usual summers of 34-36 c

[wheat sleet]

I get 40c daily

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-25423496

[distant rapids]

Rest in flames my friend

[wheat sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/walking-fire-walking-flames-kunleinho-kulneinhogifs-smoke-gif-20722197

[subtle gate]

https://tenor.com/view/stargate-jack-sg1-gif-21402301

[foggy sable]

Stargate is based, but ds9 is more based

[subtle gate]

I hate Star Trek because of the United Earth bull that they constantly spew

Stargate has nations getting to space individually

Starcraft has factions out in space

[tropic wraith]

Hey, what happened to PS' twitter?

[subtle gate]

this cursed thing is gonna show up in other areas I swear

[foggy sable]

I understand the regular trek tng can be a bit boring

[outer gust]

ds9 is fire

[wheat sleet]

It's frim the meatcanyon video

[foggy sable]

But ds9 is in different reality in quality to tng

[tropic wraith]

I've been living under a rock, what's that?

[wheat sleet]

Meatcanyon makes absurd satire animations

Lots of body horror, fair warning

[tropic wraith]

actually, nope, nevermind, retreat! RETREAT

[foggy sable]

DS9 is dowton abbey in space

[subtle gate]

DS9 also has a fair amount inner strive I always appreciate

[hasty grail]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-harvey-steve-harvey-meat-canyon-steve-harvey-meat-canyon-gif-5232135309534728220

one example

[brazen jasper]

Meatcanyon is the goat

[foggy sable]

Better question for stargate
SG or Atlantis

[subtle gate]

that's the neat part

[nova bough]

SG-1 all day.

[subtle gate]

the Atlantis team is under the UN

SGC is under US Airforce primarily

the fact that the Russians get their own gate and we have to haggle with them frequently adds something missing from Startrek just generally

[foggy sable]

Ie the russians right were missing out on russians not enough of them

[subtle gate]

I love internal strife cause it adds a dimension to the extraterrestrial threats

and the NID/OID people screwing things up for the Airforce people

genius stuff all round

[wheat sleet]

TNG was very sterile in that sense because they were all starfleer, while ds9 was a smattering of a lot of cultures sometimes outright at war with each othee

[foggy sable]

Id say there one thing I really like about stargate

Its that their characters are allowed to be dumb,

trek plays all there characters like all of them are usually masters in a field

[wheat sleet]

Star Trek solved the problems of food and shelter so there was no longer a need for money, so their entire existence becomes whatever you want to be. Starfleet is one of the loftier goals hence why they didn't really have any dummies aboard

[carmine sierra]

Yeah, it was meant to be a utopia

[foggy sable]

Thats why ds9 is better then the other because the hub allows trade to come in and go, and one of major scenes is a bar for drinking and gambling

[indigo wadi]

It's not registered as a disease, but a mental disability

[hazy storm]

Are we honestly going to mention ds9 without mentioning Babylon 5

[wheat sleet]

I think I remember the series touching on the only real currency being reputation, so the worst you could be is lazy.

[foggy sable]

I cant watch babylon 5 to before my time and the cgi hurts my eyes

[hazy storm]

The cg didn't age well I'll grant you that

[carmine sierra]

One of the things I loved with Stargate is it was pretty realistic about what it would be like to have a military command running that program
The recap episode for the first season was literally them sitting around a table justifying the existence of the program to a senator who thought it was a money sink and wanted it shut down

[foggy sable]

My fav episode of Atlantis has to be the time two characters find a room and assume its a room dedicated to playing a pvp civilization esq game, but it turns out that are messing accidentally with real civilization causing them to into a cold war with each other

Characters being dumb with ancient technology is great

[carmine sierra]

Rodney is a dipshit and I love him

[nova bough]

if i remember right, the person who played Hammond was in the military, and mentioned how it was actually unrealistic as a military setup.

[carmine sierra]

It wasn't fully realistic in the sense it still had to be an entertaining show, but they did include a lot of the bullshit military commands have to put up with on a bureacratic level

[hazy storm]

You should absolutely read The Rise and Fall of D.O.D.O.

It's a toebreaker of a novel that shows what would happen if the DOD ever managed to gain the ability to time travel. You get to watch military bureaucracy grow step by step like a festering mushroom in slow mo

[outer gust]

dont forget bar too

[hazy storm]

D.O.D.O stands for Department of Diachronic Operations

[nova bough]

it was primarily entertainment with some truth around military

[carmine sierra]

Ye, exactly

[hazy storm]

Basically if marty mcfly and doc brown were ever recruited into the military

Changing the past on behalf of the us government

[carmine sierra]

Huh, interesting

[jolly sky]

Oh for sure. As a kid, I was annoyed that ST-DS9 didn't have many "Exploring Space" parts, but as an adult I enjoyed the story and political aspects of DS9 being in one place, and having to deal with that

[foggy sable]

The bar, the church, the school, somehow the vents are a big place, a trade hub, the holo,

The entire bajoran planet next, a wormhole next to that leads to what is basically the warp or the dominion

Or beware:

having a great time playing baseball against romulans.

Or forming: Unions

[proper phoenix]

yakuza ??

[analog imp]

I mean, that’s just an Army/Air Force base, you got your Base exchange, you got your commissary

And I’ve actually applied for a job at a commissary near me, 24 dollars an hour!

[hazy storm]

Ok so a small streamer i follow has been trying to grow his channel for months but hasn't been getting any traction even after going full time

He's asking his community for suggestions and i want to help. Would a subathon accomplish anything? Given that his community isn't very big?

[distant rapids]

The best advice i have would be raid bigger channels he likes, and talk like he's streaming to 2000 people instead of 20. A lot of baby streamers never get off the ground because they have a lot of silent voids, because they don't have chat to react to. Newcomers judge based on stream quality- microphone and visual quality- and entertainment value, which silent pauses ruin entertainment value because it makes things awkward instead

[brisk sparrow]

also make sure vods are turned on

[subtle gate]

also make sure to have at least one hot take per year so people have a reason to hate watch you

[brisk sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-doge-gif-24837098

[subtle gate]

gotta give the drama farmers something to work with

[hazy storm]

Lol

[hazy storm]

There's often like 15 to 30 of us per YT stream but chat is super lively and he engages with us a lot. Every stream there's a at least a few people that do tts and spam gifted subs. Which honestly adds to my confusion on why he's not bigger.

[distant rapids]

Good! It can also be game choice- variety streamers struggle more than one-game streamers- time frame, consistency of streaming, etc. It's complicated, and sometimes it can be as simple as he's doing everything right, he just needs timw to get noticed!

[hazy storm]

Yeah he does a lot of extraction content. He's most known for doing Zero Sievert stuff but i guess that's not the most popular game

[late bane]

I miss our Kitten Al Gaib

[wispy plover]

Probably because it's YT and the reach feels harder there. If they are able to multistream to Twitch or elsewhere as well, it may help. It's always good to get your content on as many platforms as you can to get seen.

Chances are if they are good with interaction and talking with their community, it's about reach at this point.

Even just something as simple as getting clips to other areas (YT shorts, IG reels, TikTok, etc) it does help.

[hollow gyro]

Also if their current size can keep their stream afloat, there might be no need to enforce any viewer growth.

[subtle gate]

https://tenor.com/view/the-letter-h-spinning-man-letter-gif-24584770

[forest glacier]

Ive long had this in my favorited GIFs....

[terse pelican]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nOcIAbgxuec

[dusky grove]

Hmm have how long are his streams usually. Have him change his schedule to stream when other extraction streamers aren't. Less competition.

[tender field]

Someone is reacting every message with 🪳 in the TTS channel. Should I make a mod ticket?

[wicked schooner]

Go for it

[tender field]

Well, it's not every message. Just 10+

[wicked schooner]

Id just let the mods know about it through a ticket

[tender field]

Okay

[fallow fable]

I think you need an exterminator for that one 🤣

[tender field]

Mods dealt with it.

I can't imagine being a troll. "I hate this streamer so much. I'm gonna 🪳 react his messages. Haha I'm so funny"

[opaque raven]

Hi SC!
What's going on?

[opaque raven]

Oh lord...for real?

Oh, I found one on #introductions as well

[tender field]

That's different person. It was username "original-something" on the TTS one.