streamchat

[earnest cove]

i gotta go cook getting hungry

[hasty grail]

https://tenor.com/view/birthday-cake-shake-milkshake-dessert-food-gif-18394951034664143434

[minor nymph]

Enjoy the #news

[hasty grail]

https://tenor.com/view/mocha-and-milk-bears-milk-mocha-cuddle-squeeze-gif-7102673578086768359

[late bane]

Think that guy has a crush on you

[wind hare]

@minor nymph Sucks that they are dogpiling on you for that, and Khronos

[hasty grail]

drama/content farming

also whats the term for someone being very cold to someone but still liking them?

tsudre?

[late bane]

Heh can you charge royalties when someone uses your face for marketing

[quartz sonnet]

inb4 they start demanding pay stubs and bank statements

[wind hare]

Thats more sexual I think

[hasty grail]

they will

never ending cycle of "give me proof of this weird crap im saying about you"

[late bane]

[winged knoll]

Tsundere

[outer cobalt]

we should invite thor to ted

[winged knoll]

but Dr Dre work fine too

https://tenor.com/view/eminem-eminem-without-me-dr-dre-dre-without-me-gif-10175413045464007436

[hasty grail]

ye, that word

[arctic hearth]

yuck, the money incentive behind the crap is insane .. exhausting

[mossy timber]

sees news

[hasty grail]

the drama farmers made more money off the vid than the mods made during the dono

[winged knoll]

Cranking out videos daily to fill quota

[minor nymph]

They literally did.

[mossy timber]

checks channel
Oh, I already told Youtube to not show me this guy

[winged knoll]

wait until the views dwindled and he moved on to find different things to shit on

[mossy timber]

I reported the channel for harassment

[distant rapids]

This is wonderful!! I have some semi-sources on his cryptic work, but i can't find wikipedia-citable sources on it yet

[winged knoll]

same

[mossy timber]

You look at his past videos and it's all drama farming other content creators

[wind hare]

The problem I see with that is now he's going to harrass someone else, the hate still continues. It's kinda sick

[arctic hearth]

someone in khronos stream said they will move on to Vshojo stuff .. i can only hope

[winged knoll]

These are the nature of sloptuber

[minor nymph]

It's missing my work history and proper roles.
The creators seem to think my entire career was QA.

!jobs

[dapper raven]

Here is my work history. https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-hall-628b4a9/details/experience/

[winged knoll]

Will add

do you happen to know if devcon public the winner each year somewhere, might be cool to add in as well

the problem we have is proper source to cite, otherwise Wikipedia will remove them

[mossy timber]

You think if these people were really worried about games being killed they'd be making videos about what just happened with Itch.io

[winged knoll]

was discussed a bit in their discord

and then they shared 3 video bashing Thor

which get more chatters to chat

lmao

[arctic hearth]

priorities

[winged knoll]

priorities

[hasty grail]

open question to thor, why dont we have a good facepalm emote?

even if its a ferret one

this works... somewhat

[late bane]

YarrOverIt

[agile kayak]

yarrver it

[forest glacier]

1. Prior to this years April 1st Gigatrain going live I made the announcement that I will be receiving 0% of the profits ~~~~~
2. The total income from the gigatrain ~~~~~~

TL;DR - No Khronos was not directed to do this.

👍 cool. Go gettem tiger. Imma try and likely fail to wake up in time for stream lol

[agile kayak]

ba dum tissss

[winged knoll]

why can't i react to sherpaorc

do you have me blocked or something

[late bane]

I need to work harder so I can do more damage in the giga train attempts. At first it was for the ferrets and crew but now I just wanna do it in spite of them

[mossy timber]

I wish Thor could do something like... Daniel Radcliff used to wear the same close every day so it made paparazi photos of him basically worthless, but I don't know what Thor could do as a creator to starve the drama farm

[late bane]

Should ramp it up to 11

[swift star]

If you're on mobile the app can be a bit screwy sometimes. I've had to restart the app multiple time recently to get it to "behave." If not on mobile, disregard.

[agile kayak]

eh i mean ive seen people claim that "allegedly" they worked with thor and said some disparaging things so idk when the drama farm will stop if at all

cause people will believe anything nowadays

[river cargo]

do reports actually do anything?

[forest glacier]

Sometimes I block people when I don’t feel confident that I can filter my insensitive side, if I note an ideological difference I don’t think I can be adequately civil with I block. It’s better for the both of us.

[high canyon]

Thor is technically a public figure, there are strong constitutional protections (in the USA) for people making content about or criticising public figures (wether we like it or not)

[late bane]

I thought a few years ago Youtube cracked down Youtubers attacking other Youtubers. Apparently not.

[mossy timber]

"Reports do nothing" - every bad player in World of Warcraft
Always report when you have a valid reason to report

[winged knoll]

i'm on desktop

[winged knoll]

so you had me blocked

[proper phoenix]

i block nobody

[river cargo]

how do you think the edits should go? there is already a mention of you being a security specialist on there

[proper phoenix]

its funnier that way

[river cargo]

Do we try and add game dev to wow or d3?

[mossy timber]

We wish Youtube would crack down on every bad behavior, but that would tak effort and money. When SSSniperWolf showed up at JackFilms' house with a alleged weapon she got the lightest slap on the wrist for doxing and endangering someone else. They also tried to push blame on Jack.

[patent bear]

Making money off of it though might be different... but I'm not a legal expert.

[late bane]

You know... if there mad at Kronos...what's gonna happen when they find out Thor has been letting clones of him escape into the wild...

[mossy timber]

https://tenor.com/view/j-jonah-jameson-slander-libel-spider-man-jk-simmons-gif-23201080

[winged knoll]

I don't think there were 🔫

but doxxing is serious stuffs

[late bane]

People have died from it

[winged knoll]

from seeing SniperWolf?

[late bane]

I mean

Probably

[high canyon]

Regardless, lawyers are expensive, the average cost per hour of a lawyer in WA State is 322 an hour (USD) and they arent gunna work on contingency for most cases, so thats money youd have to pay upfront or in installements, win or lose

[late bane]

oops replied to wrong comment

[hasty grail]

https://tenor.com/view/shia-shiasur-shia-la-beouf-dance-gif-14562584

[indigo wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/legal-eagle-puts-on-glasses-lets-get-started-gif-25933988

[mossy timber]

SniperWolf was alleged to have a weapon on her when she went to shout outside Jack's house, which should have been charged as a crime in California
But hey I think her 'company' unraveled because she tried to rugpull her exboyfriend who essentially built her whole style and he sued her

[frozen sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-irwin-steve-irwin-crocodile-hunter-crocodile-gif-24583689

And here we see a wild Kronos!

[late bane]

Crocnos

[frozen sonnet]

Crocnos

[high canyon]

Fun fact, one time I had to hire a defense attorney for some nonsense and it cost me 1500 upfront, just to retain the guy

[indigo wadi]

compared to AIslop?

[late bane]

Probably shouldn't badmouthing other people here, Thor isn't about that

I know her past

But still

deleted

[indigo wadi]

I mean, you can criticize the content

[late bane]

I knooow its just a tight wire is all

[winged knoll]

[late bane]

Yep I don't want to go down that route so I deleted it

[winged knoll]

i didn't read what he said

[late bane]

We're being watched by haters anyway so we gotta be good little goblins lol

[winged knoll]

Hello haters

[late bane]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-in-the-walls-in-the-walls-wall-muppet-panicking-gif-27546618

Im going to sleep, catch yall in stream later today

[frozen sonnet]

I’m a lover not a fighter

[high canyon]

I wonder what we will do on stream tonight

[quartz sonnet]

I'm probably gonna have to do a lot of involved work tomorrow so will probably miss a lot of the stream

[hazy storm]

can we talk about something interesting now? like why toast always falls butter side down

damned toast

https://tenor.com/view/toast-gif-23358366

[opaque raven]

Ok, undertale on wishlist

[hazy storm]

YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED UNDERTALE YET???

OMG

me neither

[winged knoll]

eck dee

[winged knoll]

[frozen sonnet]

No way

That’s in this server?

[winged knoll]

#advertising message

[frozen sonnet]

Holy moly

[flint sinew]

No shaking cats !

[winged knoll]

oh no mister mod catches me in the act

[flint sinew]

[muted robin]

damn this chat is always so much more chill than general askdjlflksd

[agile kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/unspeakable-violence-unspeakable-violence-poke-slapping-gif-14451091994871827607

[frozen sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/standing-here-i-realize-gif-24728653

[swift star]

Holy shit

[frozen sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-pam-beesly-theyre-the-same-picture-same-picture-the-same-gif-21639622

[balmy bone]

I can't be the only one that's tired of watching Thor defend himself against false and/or out-of-context accusations. We could have so much more time for fun stuff, but there's just so much crap to wade through.

[winter wave]

Wait shaye goes by she/her now? I’m confused

[high canyon]

Shaye doesnt really seem to mind pronouns

Shaye has said during their stream that you can call her pretty much anything as long as you arent being a meanie head

[winter wave]

Oooooh okay

I must have missed that

[balmy bone]

Shaye is shaye, and shaye is art. No reason to dig deeper there 🙂

[agile kayak]

and life is art and art imitates life imitates art

or it intimidates

whichever comes first

[high canyon]

and Art is ferrets and skunks

[winter wave]

My bad

[opaque raven]

Shaye is ||fae||

[winter sierra]

much more than that lol. heartbound too

[high canyon]

very true

[high canyon]

you didnt do anything wrong lol ❤️

I love Shaye's new character, Noxx

Nox?

how many X idk lol

[winter sierra]

nox

[red halo]

And Shaye is meatball's owner, which makes meatball's behavior very fae like

[winter sierra]

meebo

[swift star]

Just read the news update, it's sickening to see that sort of behavior...

It's so blatantly criminal.

[winter sierra]

yeah im really worried, for the ferrets and for thor / shaye

luckily they have 24hr ferret surveilence because of chat

[proud depot]

Looked at the channel thor mentioned. The latest video is even based on a video by legal mindset, like holy shit its just bullcrap all the way down

[frozen sonnet]

Me too

[subtle gate]

[muted robin]

I would jokingly start saying (Big Iron starts playing in the background) but owning a gun is a serious committment + i doubt the gun/use of force laws are as pro-victim in washington as they are where I live

[quartz sonnet]

"I'm worried about Doxxing someone" - doxxes them anyways

[high canyon]

People are gunna wanna be careful cause: "Yes, Washington State follows the Castle Doctrine. This means that individuals are not required to retreat when defending themselves against unlawful force in their home or other legally occupied spaces"

[proper phoenix]

[winter sierra]

if i lived in WA i know what i would be buying

[winged knoll]

[high canyon]

Dont commit crime, friends, little crime or big crime, all bad

[opaque raven]

One day I left Shaye's stream on and forgot about it
Out of nowhere I hear a "it's not OUR cat, it's MY cat"
And I thought that my neighbors were having a go

[opaque raven]

Be like Kirby

Don't be like Yoshi

[high canyon]

Also, im not a lawyer, this is not legal advice, seriously friends

[winter sierra]

ok but people who are mean to ferrets dont deserve joy

[red halo]

Even Joker avoids tax fraud

[proud depot]

all animals in general I'd say

[swift star]

https://tenor.com/view/sachiko-turnipboy-stream-cosplayer-gamer-gif-12601020734608159735

[winter sierra]

depends on the animal tbh

bugs dont count

[opaque raven]

I have this game on Switch!! I was very curious about it

[tender field]

frick the mosquitos 🖕🏽

[opaque raven]

Have yet to play it

[swift star]

It's an incredible ride.

By all means, enjoy! :3

[opaque raven]

Bugs are fine
With a few exceptions

[proud depot]

yeah there's a difference between slapping a mosquito cause its trying to suck your blood, vs lighting ants on fire with a magnifying glass

maybe don't torture bugs

[muted robin]

you can keep bugs away from you and your stuff bc they bite and are unsanitary but yeah, don't be mean to them

[proud depot]

And just general advice, if you can't stand spiders in your house (even though they are good bugs and you should leave them alone) kill them, don't "humanely" relocate them outside cause thats just killing them slowly

[muted robin]

Spiders live outside

[opaque raven]

Spotted Lanternfly is a very aggressive invasive species (on the US), even amongst the to most extreme entomology groups that I'm part of no one defends this

[muted robin]

They came free with your outdoors

Or am I missing a joke

Trying to look at general chat has fried my brain

[winter sierra]

so i have done this for mosquitos

[proud depot]

there are spiders in your house right now and they evolved to live there. They eat all the bad bugs and generally don't like to bother people

[subtle violet]

I'll let jumping spiders live, like the fuzzy wee little fellers. But any other spiders are murdered in cold blood, 0 remorse.

[opaque raven]

This is my take on the subject

[muted robin]

If you have specific species names that I could look up appearances of i'd be happy to let spiders live with me, I just live in a place that has a decent amount of venomous spiders and stuff in it so

Not Australia

[winged knoll]

Unless they decided to bite my ass then they have to go

[golden latch]

Im glad this is the quiet chat rn

[hasty grail]

mostly

who wants to argue about the best candy?

[subtle violet]

yes 🙂‍↕️🙌 for example, black widows ;_; they're so spooky.. but daddy long legs are into cannibalism supposedly

[golden latch]

What constitutes “candy”

[proud depot]

If they get onto me all bets are off on what happens to the spider. But if I see one crawling up the wall I leave it alone. But I did once flip my chair backwards cause a spider descended like an inch in front of my face

[opaque raven]

Ye ofc, there is a difference between respecting life and posing a danger to yourself
The problem I see is that some people are so afraid of spoods that they kill every single one they see

Or ladybugs, beetles, anything and everything

[hazy storm]

Speaking of bugs. One of those house centipedes just crawled past me. I gave it a salute as it went on its merry way

[proud depot]

which daddy long legs do you mean? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daddy_longlegs

[golden latch]

Cockroach eater

[hazy storm]

They apparently also feed on bedbugs

[golden latch]

So a spicy peanut treat wont count 👍 understood

[golden latch]

What chill little guys

[proud depot]

I am so thankful we don't have any of those up here. No scorpions, no centipedes, no cockroaches, no large rats, etc

[hasty grail]

lite snack in that case

[subtle violet]

I'm pretty tolerant, but lately the spiders I've seen have been located while under blankets. They keep running at me, but when I get ready to smash em they disappear 🫠

[fluid dome]

Shit

[proper phoenix]

flamethrower usually help

spider

[opaque raven]

Nah

[fluid dome]

Hello

[hazy storm]

Ugh yeah id react badly to that too

[proper phoenix]

i have a distinct hatred for spider
mosquito and roachs

roachs are not scary

[opaque raven]

I wouldn't like to be killed just bcs I'm in the wrong place in the wrong time

[proper phoenix]

until those mf fly

[subtle violet]

I was half asleep when I felt a spider on my face, I was so out of it that I grabbed it by hand and threw it away from my bed and fell back asleep.

[proper phoenix]

every roachs suddenly become an omega level threat the moment they open up their wing

[proud depot]

I don't want to live somewhere where I have to check my shoes for things that might have crawled in there since I last wore them

[proper phoenix]

[winged knoll]

Spider can use Flamethrower?

[carmine sierra]

Bugs can do their thing and support the environment and all
Over there
Away from me

[opaque raven]

Roaches have no flight plans
They just shake their wings and put everything else on shuffle

[hazy storm]

I was once eating lunch in the cafeteria and felt a tug on my shirt. I looked down and it was a roach.

I calmly tugged at the hem of my shirt and yeeted it away, where it sailed into the air and landed on the hair of one of the popular girls .

Best day of my life

[proper phoenix]

until these mf actualy flew

[hasty grail]

some of them make enough noise to keep you up at night

ask me how i know

[proper phoenix]

[subtle violet]

Bug meme

[distant rapids]

I'm praying for Thor and Shaye's and all their lovely animal's safeties, and one prayer is stronger than thousands of wicked individuals. You are in good hands peeps

[hasty grail]

ditto

[opaque raven]

Ye, so, the way I see there is a HUGE difference between killing everything and just cleaning/protecting your house

[muted robin]

Flying roaches are why pokemon should've made bug type super effective against fighting. Or at least normally effectivr bc cmon kung fu literally has a fighting style modeled after the mantis

[hasty grail]

i just dont want to find a bug when i go to take a shower

[proper phoenix]

roach suddenly rise to the top ofthe foodchain the moment they fly in the air

[winter wave]

Just gonna mute general for a bit because good holy geezus

[red halo]

During my time chatting here, this is the first time where I take refuge in stream chat instead of general

[muted robin]

Fr???? General is always too fast for me even when it's just normal stuff

[proper phoenix]

i WILL erase every roachs i find in my home

[proud depot]

thats one place spiders will not survive in my house. They get washed down the drain

[proper phoenix]

[winged knoll]

what happened in general

[subtle violet]

I'm actually going to say something lol, here. Doxxing isn't public information.

-# Doxing is often perceived as public information due to the nature of the data involved and how it's obtained. Many doxxers compile information from publicly available sources, like social media, public records, and leaked databases. This leads some to believe that because the information is technically accessible, it's fair game to share publicly. However, the crucial distinction is that doxxing involves collecting and disseminating this information without consent, often with malicious intent, which is what makes it harmful and different from simply making information publicly available.

[red halo]

During the start of the drama it was stream chat that was going wild iirc

[hasty grail]

look at #news

and people are popping off

[subtle violet]

Dumb people gonna dumb, take a break to stupid, and then dumb more

[hasty grail]

this is the upstairs room where only some people remember that it exists

[distant rapids]

I think you replied to the wrong person

[subtle violet]

Or did I?

It's probably best to have that info. dump public, sorry to tag you about it specifically though

[proper phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-gif-7954645047987041501

[winter sierra]

can thor do anything about this other then discord stuff because discord rarely does anything tbh

[hasty grail]

i hope everyone here has a safe night, im going to try and finish this stardew valley season before i call it for the night

[hasty grail]

it might be big enough in this case

[hazy storm]

And I'm grateful for it. Every time I see a quintheo apologist open his mouth there i want to throw something

[winter sierra]

yeah

[radiant escarp]

That actually makes me wonder, will Thor play Turnip boy Robs a Bank. I know he's played tax evasion.

[hasty grail]

he should play that on April 15th

[muted robin]

The discord server can get deleted and/or users banned but idk if this is like sueable if that's what you mean

[opaque raven]

Since Gen is having a moment I'm just gonna leave my Kob here for safety. Take care of her

[winter sierra]

im just so worried for the ferrets

[subtle violet]

I recently rediscovered the "carmeldansen dead meme" and now I can't get the song to go away ;_;

[red halo]

Oh yeah, because of Thor's constant talk about vegimite and cheese. I don't have vegimite, but I have something that kinda looks like it color wise and flavor profile also salty. I have shrimp paste

[hazy storm]

Your kob is a scaled machine of violence. He doesn't need protection

[red halo]

And I recently tried it on bread with some cheese and siracha and I cannot ever go back and I know people will forever judge me

[opaque raven]

Kobs are just hungry

[earnest cove]

shrimp paste? does your country have Marmite or Brovil?

[gray fable]

When does the kobold vs goblin thing reach blockgame?

[carmine sierra]

As soon as the players bring it in

[hasty grail]

https://tenor.com/view/money-heist-úrsula-corberó-mask-gif-15488198

[red halo]

Nope, I can probably get it in an online store but that's gonna expensive

Actually I think there is one place but it's like the costco thing where they have a memvership since most of their stuff is imports

[earnest cove]

aah ok. Because those two are the closest relatives to vegemite

[swift star]

I hope for the same.

[proper phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/my-apologies-cheese-kitty-cat-sorry-my-bad-gif-1026852287997442026

[earnest cove]

the location venn diagram for Shrimp Paste and the other two brands can overlap so I wondered if you're in them

[mellow silo]

https://tenor.com/view/my-apologies-my-apolocheese-apollo-cat-orange-cat-gif-17118325968431760443

[red halo]

I know shrimp paste does not taste like vegimite based on people's description but because of the constant vegimite talk I did this instead and I regret it because I actually like it

[proper phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/630553822036623370/1378751779763912764/cmla_wuwa250601.gif

[opaque raven]

What type of Bleach is this?

[hasty grail]

its not bleach, im stealing the gold

[red halo]

Honestly when I get to that store again I will buy vegimite because apparently it taste like soy sauce a bit and I have an unhealthy love for that

[winged knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/coffee-cisler-pissedoff-traderjill-ladyjustice-gif-17977892488962581990

[proud depot]

It seems with the vshojo stuff going on, the livestream fail subreddit has moved on from its daily innocuous clip of a thor livestream and calling it a fail

[earnest cove]

yeah having both soy sauce and yeast extract, it does taste like beefy soy sauce

and more bitter

i can't follow gen chat anymore lol

[unreal coral]

Because of the food or the other carnage?

[winter sierra]

gen chat has never been my thing

[earnest cove]

both

too fast too furious

[red halo]

There's actually one food that's bitter that I can't enjoy at all. Bitter Gourds, the bitterness it has is weird and disgusting to me

[earnest cove]

Same. It's like eating a chemical that you shouldn't eat

i don't like bitter generally. but the yeast extract is only slightly bitter

[winter sierra]

i like bitter things like poppy seeds

[unreal coral]

Flavors don't really bother me with most foods, it's the textures that KILL me to my soul

[carmine sierra]

[winter sierra]

big true

[red halo]

Bitter is pretty fine most of the time for me but that one specifically is just eay too much for me

[red halo]

Ohhh that's good to know

[winter sierra]

i like the bitterant they put on nintendo cartridges

[unreal coral]

But I also used to drink tabasco sauce for fun as a kid so my taste buds are fried

[dusky grove]

Ngl you've probably already had yeast extract in one way or another. Particularly in vegetarian or vegan savory snacks

[earnest cove]

yeah that's true

when i mixed yeast extract with cream my first thought was "wow this tastes just like canned mushroom soup"

[dusky grove]

If i had some, i'd use it like id use a stock cube

[unreal coral]

I can taste what you're describing and I don't know how to feel about it

[earnest cove]

🤣

They're basically MSG but in the form of yeast instead of seaweed

[unreal coral]

Unfortunately I can't picture things in my head or anything like that, but I can taste descriptions of food

[brisk sparrow]

hello fellow aphantasia haver

[winter sierra]

yeast is a good think

[winter sierra]

me too :>

[brisk sparrow]

how far on the scale?

[unreal coral]

The only thing that comes to mind when I think of yeast is bread and mead

[winter sierra]

mines not so bad

[brisk sparrow]

i cant see anything at all

[hasty grail]

https://youtu.be/bscBYTMg4sE

[winter sierra]

oh yeah i can see a little, but its unclear and not color

[brisk sparrow]

like, i get the feeling of seeing it, but dont actually see it

[brisk sparrow]

makes theoretical math really hard tbh

[winter sierra]

mhm

[golden latch]

Sorry its a little active rn but i do try and make it enjoyable 😁

[unreal coral]

OMG I've never been able to put words to it until you just described it

[winter sierra]

so bad a mental math lol

[brisk sparrow]

its like just over a hill that is infinitely tall

i know its there i just cant reach it

[winter sierra]

when i dream (rare) its sort of like a 140p crunchy video but when im having the dream i still think its real its just i look back on it like,,,, no

[brisk sparrow]

i actually had a pretty vivid dream last night

dont remember what it was about unfortunately

[unreal coral]

For me I can think of it but there is no image, just a black screen is the best way to describe it for me

[quartz sonnet]

looking at GenChat means I'm not getting any other activities done with how active it is lool

[brisk sparrow]

hol up

lemme find something

[winter sierra]

i had a ferret dream, i remember i owned 2 ferrets, a huge chunky one and i was showing him off to someone and a dark one who was hiding

[opaque raven]

I'm thinking about quitting my job and becoming a tree

[unreal coral]

So you're saying one of them had the high ground and the dark one didn't?

[opaque raven]

Anyway, how are you all today

[unreal coral]

Good how are you?

[brisk sparrow]

This podcast episode was really interesting to listen to, I can try to find it not on Spotify if you would like as well (if available) https://open.spotify.com/episode/6bKBBSfSEuhTneMeLiHaoW?

[winter sierra]

i was struggling to find her and when i did she was like under a shelf or smth. if i had ferrets i would NEVER free roam them lol so unrealistic dream. this is (kinda?) what she looked like in my head

[distant rapids]

This is the funniest thing I've read tonight

[winter sierra]

and the big boy was like mocha (with a vinnie face)

[opaque raven]

Not allowed to work today so...idk

[hasty grail]

[stone nacelle]

sounds like homegrown tourism to me

aanyways

[brisk sparrow]

from the wikipedia, aphantasia has been known about for a long time, but only recently regained traction with a study puiblished in 2015

[unreal coral]

I feel like the problem with the knowledge of aphantasia is that like for me I didn't know that it wasn't normal so I just never talked about it

[brisk sparrow]

well, it only was picked up in research in 2015 really, and social media popularized it in 2020

so its a very new thing

[opaque raven]

My fiancee and my sec joined efforts to put me on sick leave yesterday and today ("you look too tired for this")
So I'm just gonna ride my bike around the park, get some fruits for breakfast and idk

[brisk sparrow]

same with a lack of an inner voice

I have one, but i know people that done

[opaque raven]

I can't even login on Figma, Notion and Slack

[proud depot]

figma balls?

not sure if that works as a ligma

[opaque raven]

Kinda

Not bad tho

[brisk sparrow]

this has been posted countless times today alone

but might as well leave it

since some mightve not seen it

[opaque raven]

Big server
A lot of rotation
Many time zones

It's super fair to repeat things

[scarlet aspen]

basically a "i embezzled money, got caught, and now i'm sorry"

[winged knoll]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720751611139457104/1385060879178924063/lerolero-4x.gif

[scarlet aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/were-sorry-tony-hayward-south-park-s14e11-coon2rise-of-captain-hindsight-gif-22864475

[high canyon]

Sorry I stole money from charity, that i knew was for charity, cause i congradulated Mouse and Cdawg on raising it for charity...but i didnt know it was for charity

[flint sinew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720751611139457104/1385060879178924063/lerolero-4x.gif

[opaque raven]

Just saying but a Kobold would NEVER steal money like that

Wrong image

[stone nacelle]

months? unpaid since september? this is only a confession

[unreal coral]

Not to mention that the charity was supposed to be paid out a year ago

[stone nacelle]

i guess 100 months are still 'months'

just sounds cheap

[hasty grail]

its funnier this way

[flint sinew]

clears throat kobold supremacy

[distant rapids]

Question: do you mean this gif as just to vibe or is this you telling us move on from subjects?

[winter sierra]

those emotes are uncomfortable

they are too alive

[flint sinew]

[winter sierra]

rip the life out of them

[distant rapids]

NO VAGUENESS MY AUTISM'S ENEMY

[winged knoll]

Disagree, goblin is much more majestic

[flint sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/boo-gif-19787475173016375

[winged knoll]

[winged knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/hannibal-buress-right-booing-gif-13861878

[unreal coral]

gen chat is still moving at the speed of sound

[winter sierra]

[patent bear]

According to google, it's a vtuber management agency?

[dusky grove]

What about the often forgotten imp faction? Goblins and kobolds get too much press

[unreal coral]

Was* lol

[patent bear]

Much for muchness.

[winter sierra]

[opaque raven]

Maybe nsfw
Let me know if such thing is not allowed

[high canyon]

yum

[winter sierra]

i mean.,,,, i dont mind

[unreal coral]

In all seriousness, it was a VTuber Talent Agency that was supposed to be 'Talent First' and it technically was. The problem is that the CEO got greedy, wanted money that wasn't his. Was bleeding the company dry and now after everyone resigned he's trying to play it like he didn't know what he was doing was F***ed up...

[patent bear]

So FAFO.

[unreal coral]

I'm sorry, is that cheddar and mozz?

[unreal coral]

Yeah, he was bleeding out 11 mill over the last few years because he was blowing it on things he had no business blowing it on. Half a mill of that wasn't even his money in the first place

[high canyon]

Said he didnt know 500k was for charity despite him personally congradulating mouse and Cdawg on raising 500k for charity

[minor nymph]

Insane to hear.
Got a link?

[high canyon]

Gimme a moment; he said he didnt know it was for charity on his post on X

[unreal coral]

https://x.com/VShojo/status/1948442574722924778

VShojo (@VShojo)

X · Jul 24, 2025, 5:58 PM

Got it

[winter sierra]

crazy ass thing to say tbh

[hasty grail]

the responses to that are very funny

also heart breaking

[high canyon]

https://x.com/theGunrun/status/1840907581411508384

theGunrun (@theGunrun)

@ironmouse YOU DID IT MOUSE!!

X · Oct 1, 2024, 12:12 AM

[carmine sierra]

https://vxtwitter.com/LittleVMills/status/1948454212528210193

Little V (@LittleVMills)

https://t.co/nI1OGQnI8M

QRT: VShojo
https://t.co/fnbGvAtm50

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jul 24, 2025, 6:44 PM

Best one

[high canyon]

https://x.com/theGunrun/status/1840813689831936316

theGunrun (@theGunrun)

RT @LudwigAhgren: ironmouse just blew past my old twitch sub record and still has another day to break kai's record

i seen some weird peop…

X · Sep 30, 2024, 5:59 PM

[subtle gate]

is she really from Puerto Rico?

[unreal coral]

That's insane

[high canyon]

So my statement is based on his own twitter post, in which he denied knowing that money was for charity, despite sending a congrats tweet and retweeting a post clearly stating money was for charity

[hasty grail]

also asmon comment

[swift star]

Geega's vid was also very eye-opening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2rGJGphhv8

[high canyon]

Iron Mouse raised over 500k for charity during her 2024 subathon, the CEO of Vshojo congrats'ed her then later denied knowing that 500k was for charity when he used it for other things

[carmine sierra]

Slight correction, the CEO retweeted someone congratulating her

[swift star]

I like Geega's vid because she provides more context from what she saw happening behind the scenes.

[high canyon]

https://x.com/theGunrun/status/1840907581411508384

theGunrun (@theGunrun)

@ironmouse YOU DID IT MOUSE!!

X · Oct 1, 2024, 12:12 AM

[carmine sierra]

Ah, I stand corrected

[unreal coral]

Didn't mean to double mention you

[carmine sierra]

You're fine 😛

The original thing linked was a retweet from Ludwig, not from Gunrun himself, but yeah that response is pretty damning

[flint yarrow]

Gunrun really saw all the bs happening in niji and went "Hold my beer". Crazy

[high canyon]

Iron Mouse has now also raised over 1.2 million for the foundation is like 2 days

Tiltify is at 1,237,406.39

not counting the BUZZILLION SUBS AND BITS, we threw at her welcome back hype train, that she plans on donating as well

we broke her personal hype train record ❤️

[unreal coral]

I saw the screenshot for that! It was something crazy like 20,000%

[high canyon]

obligatory, Senpai noticed me, response ❤️

[swift star]

*>AAA gaming fails

indie renaissance
high-level talent agency fails
indie renaissance*

Love to see it. 😎

[ember ember]

Apparently theGunrun also had his own Twitch emote

[swift star]

The good parts, of course, obviously not all the horrendous damage.

[unreal coral]

He was one of the founders

[hasty grail]

keyword on "had"

[distant rapids]

Founders of twitch?!

[ember ember]

I remember seeing something about him being one of the pioneers for the irl streaming category

[hasty grail]

you mean Justin.tv?

I CAST: AGE TO DUST

[proud depot]

apparently used back in the day when a twitch stream broke cause invariably gunrun would show up to fix things

[unreal coral]

Yeah, that too, specifically backpacking IRL

[distant rapids]

Also i just realized... i am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice... but thor now has grounds for proving actual malice

[distant rapids]

So that's a thing if somehow this turns to court

[high canyon]

V no go

[stone nacelle]

oh no

[swift star]

Someone do one for VIM.

[halcyon cosmos]

hey is there a channel for funny memes here? just read news and whilst i saw it unfold i am Enraged at the outcome and wanna get rid of that emotion with memes

[hasty grail]

the pit

[hazy tusk]

#memeposting

[hasty grail]

requires memelord role

[boreal flower]

isn't that in the channels and roles section? can just grab it right?

[boreal flower]

well then it should be open for you

[hasty grail]

and with that, bed calls

stay sane everyone

[gray fable]

Am I allowed to ask for Thor advice here or is that best left to a ticket or something?

[hasty grail]

give him a few hours

looks like a discord raid in progress

[safe berry]

https://tenor.com/view/were-sorry-tony-hayward-south-park-s14e11-coon2rise-of-captain-hindsight-gif-22864475

[languid ether]

I'm sure its allowed, there's just no guarantee he will see it / decide to reply

[torn panther]

Holy shit guys is everything okay

Moderation team okay?

[golden mirage]

You can ask here but he doesn't regularly read this chat as far as I know. Do a TTS if you want to be sure you're question will be seen.

[torn panther]

I just read the announcement

[safe berry]

yup, VShojo https://x.com/VShojo/status/1948442574722924778

VShojo (@VShojo)

X · Jul 24, 2025, 5:58 PM

[hasty grail]

there was an attempted swatting earlier, but thor dealt with it

[torn panther]

I can’t believe we have double agents in here

[proud depot]

*was a vtuber management agency

[hasty grail]

and the stupid one decided to post about it and thus his username is known to Thor

via someone sharing the message of him bragging about it

[torn panther]

Would it help to submit a report to discord

[languid ether]

he's handled it already

[torn panther]

Or go
On Twitter

[scarlet aspen]

he's prolly already done it, and he'll prolly pass it to the police

swatting is SUPER illegal, and basically attempted murder

[hasty grail]

based on what you know and do, it is encouraged that you make your own decision on things

[torn panther]

Sometimes making a fuss to companies like discord about this stuff can he’ll

Help*

[languid ether]

Since the content creators were able to own their IP, does this mean Ironmouse will be able to continue streaming? Or will she have to rebrand?

[torn panther]

What a shitshow 2025 has been

[patent bear]

He's already done that.

[torn panther]

Didn’t see this one coming

[hasty grail]

it is very encouraged to make your own decision on things

take that as you will

[torn panther]

https://tenor.com/view/hd-smirk-gif-7206957141966421326

[hasty grail]

https://youtu.be/6KUOX_VFVn0
in other news, more SABATON

freshly posted

[scarlet aspen]

be responsible and respectful, use your power, don't abuse it. report anything you personally see that is against the rules or illegal. don't just mass report as bandwagoning

[languid ether]

real shit? 👀

[patent bear]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-why-didnt-i-think-of-that-hank-scorpio-homer-simpson-you-only-move-twice-gif-20385109

[carmine sierra]

Wait did #streamclips just get moved in the list

[distant rapids]

... it did

Mods, who dragged it

[hasty grail]

dont worry about it

nothing moved

https://tenor.com/view/no-war-in-ba-sing-se-avatar-earth-village-gif-25923233

[gray fable]

I blame star /s

[languid ether]

Damn this is good. Would make a perfect anthem for the White Scars Legion and their Primarch

[winged knoll]

it has always been there ||/s||

[hasty grail]

thats fair

[carmine sierra]

[opaque raven]

As a side note
NEVER trust Jasmin with a secret, she gossips with everyone

[junior torrent]

WAIT SABATON RELEASED NEW MUSIC???

YOOOOO

[jolly sky]

Quintheo himself is in here too if you weren't aware. Likely under an Alt.

Here's been here in the past on his main account too;

[hazy storm]

An alt that likes kobolds to an unhealthy degree. As cover

[jolly sky]

His only post here on his main account

[muted robin]

Now THERE'S some rat behavior

Advertising in a streamer's discord server only to drama farm him less than a year later

[flint yarrow]

gaming and streaming news really was just code for drama slop after all

[mossy timber]

I mean look over his channel, it is all drama farm, he's probably afraid what will happen if people stop caring that he's found the smoking gun that proves Thor is as bad as they thought each video

[waxen comet]

so thor has addressed him now huh

ye its an entirely drama channel

[carmine sierra]

Since it came up in the other chat (before immediately getting buried because lol general) and I feel like showing off
This is a coat I made back in 2018
It's now seven years old with regular use, and though it shows a bit of wear here and there, it's still holding strong
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/632508848032186387/632508901639585794/image0.jpg?ex=6883f611&is=6882a491&hm=63c6b7d58f2131a4a88cb13b3ee4271f915624c811c147faf9360a501b1ca9e7&

[jagged vapor]

Damn that's beautiful 😍

[carmine sierra]

Not really sure what other chat would be best for showing off arts and crafts 😛

[carmine sierra]

[golden mirage]

Thats a nice coat. Have you shared it in #textile-arts?

[carmine sierra]

This was the third attempt
First one was a practice piece with junk yarn
Second attempt used better yarn and made a finished product, but I made some mistakes and ended up not liking some of the construction of the pattern
Third attempt (in the pic) was with some of my own alterations to the pattern, and avoiding the mistakes I'd made in the second

[jagged vapor]

Also, there is a textile art section in life skills

[carmine sierra]

No, because I don't have that chat 😛

What role would I need?

[golden mirage]

life skills

[carmine sierra]

[boreal flower]

making your own clothes is definitely a life skill

and a good one to have to take a stand against fast fashion and fashion that doesn't take into account we don't all have cookie cutter proportions XD;

[waxen comet]

pretty nice
though i prefer if it wasnt entirely, uh, wool? but i assume you just knitted that anyway so no choice

[boreal flower]

one size fits all my genetically predisposed to being tiny butt

[carmine sierra]

30% wool 70% acrylic, but I could use basically anything for it

(I cheaped out on the materials and didn't go full-wool)

[waxen comet]

acrylic is on clothes?

[carmine sierra]

Yes, acrylic yarn is a thing

[waxen comet]

https://tenor.com/view/now-you-know-the-more-you-know-no-kidding-no-shit-obviously-gif-1342210079425559607

[carmine sierra]

It's effectively woven plastic, but it works decently well

Main benefit is that it's durable

[waxen comet]

and i assume the cons is that its plastic

[carmine sierra]

Doesn't hold heat as much as I'd like, and doesn't bind with the material around it so any wind cuts right through the stitching

Punishment for cheaping out on materials seven years ago

[golden mirage]

See, all I'm hearing are reasons to make a better one now. 😉

[waxen comet]

oh well i was going for its microplastics

[carmine sierra]

I plan to, once I have spare cash for materials 😛

Got a few patterns lined up that I haven't decided between yet

[golden mirage]

Do them all, no decisions needed.

[carmine sierra]

Money

Yarn is expensive

Especially anything of a good quality

[waxen comet]

make it from scratch

start with the creation of the universe

[golden mirage]

True, its shocking how expensive it is, even the supposed "cheap" stuff.

[carmine sierra]

The counterpoint is that properly handmade stuff like this will last way longer than cheap clothes

Like I said, that coat is seven years old now, probably going on eight, and I wear it daily six months out of the year

The only thing is like
One split spot I had to mend up, and I need to replace and resew the buttons

And the split was just because it got caught on a cabinet handle

[golden mirage]

Thats no surprise, buttons are probably the most used part of a coat. They'll wear out faster just by the nature of what they do.

[carmine sierra]

I just hate sewing so I've been procrastinating on it

[hazy storm]

I am currently wearing the same basketball shorts i wore in high school over 20 years ago. Shits made to last

[golden latch]

Never washing them helps

[carmine sierra]

Part of the alterations to the pattern that I made was specifically to avoid having to sew anything except the buttons

[hazy storm]

Lol

[carmine sierra]

The original pattern had you make the yoke (the part around the shoulders and back), then the body off the bottom and collar off the top, then make the front panels and sew them on the sides

I made the yoke, made the first part of the panels built directly off the sides of it, then picked those stitches up along with the first row of the body and continued them down

Specifically so I wouldn't have to sew 😛

[golden mirage]

Sounds complicated and like you made twice the work of it just to avoid sewing...sounds like me "fixing" my dads house.

[carmine sierra]

In some ways it's harder, but it also makes a much stronger and more reliable seam

[golden mirage]

Thats good, probably a worthwhile trade off.

[carmine sierra]

There's another pattern I've been wanting to make my own variation of called a ten-stitch blanket
The idea of it is that you only have ten stitches on the needle at any time, and you work in a spiral while attaching itself back to the inner part as you go
Was going to make that in a rectangular shape and using a different stitch pattern, and use that as a bedspread

But doing hand-knitted stuff of that size is a lot of work

[golden mirage]

Sounds like it but the sooner you start, the sooner you can show off the finished blanket.

Also sounds similar to the things Liz does in the textiles channel.

[carmine sierra]

The other thing I want to alter with the pattern is to use linen stitch instead of the usual garter
The way linen works is basically, you skip every other stitch as you're working across the row and weave the yarn in front of it instead
Then work the skipped ones and weave the stitched ones on the way back
So it uses a lot more yarn, but makes an incredibly thick and sturdy material
Which is perfect for something like a bedspread, where it's effectively just a gigantic rectangle that you need to be as warm as possible

[golden mirage]

See, you got this. You can do it!

[carmine sierra]

Ye, it's less a question of ability or knowledge, more just resources and motivation

[golden mirage]

Yeah, those are hard to wrangle sometimes

[carmine sierra]

As far as the coat, the next pattern I have my eye on is probably going to be this one
With some adjustments of my own to make it fit better on a 170-pound guy, and to not use that type of button 😛

[earnest cove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwzpfB1b_J8

looks like vshojont is possibly guilty of fraud, at least

[patent bear]

Yep seems likely. Given his tweet, he basically admitted to scamming his customers.

[earnest cove]

gross mismanagement of funds, and if charity money cannot be retrieved at all, rip it's a federal crime

meanwhile:

[waxen comet]

why did my brain think about the show desperate housewives when i saw the images

[carmine sierra]

Pff

[winged knoll]

I'm not going to recommend this channel anymore

LM has ... questionable ethics

[jolly sky]

This man is not a Fraud lawyer. He's a real estate lawyer. I would not trust him on any information he gives regarding anything other than Real Estate laws.

Fast Facts lead to fast misconceptions

[earnest cove]

I was very sure he was a commercial lawyer from Florida

not real estate

[jolly sky]

(And also a real estate lawyers that hasn't actually practiced law in the US in years.

[earnest cove]

He's still practicing law though. Visa stuff

[mossy timber]

new shit youtube trying to suggest to me "Pirate Software tried to cancel Game Theory" Like what? When do I hear the dinosaurs died because of Thor?

[jolly sky]

https://lawofselfdefense.com/alc-bundle-6/

[earnest cove]

oh corporate law ok

[jolly sky]

And considering he jumps into seemingly any arguments regarding the law regardless of his actual profession or experience, I find his words highly suspect

[mossy timber]

He might just try to jump on stuff for views

[high canyon]

A pediatrist shouldnt be doing your heart surgery

[jolly sky]

(Unlike Legal Eagle who always talks about the Law he practices in his own state, and if there's a conversation about a state or law outside of his knowledge, he brings someone else on who does know)

[mossy timber]

He has a video on the twitch fraud allegation against pirate too, not giving that a view

[patent bear]

He talks about other states too where the case/situation falls into that jurisdiction, but he only gives interpretations. Not definitive arguments.

[jolly sky]

Yea again, not a fraud lawyer, not a single layer of trust in his words.

And also, whatever he could bring to that argument is already null and void as its not against Twitchs ToS

[patent bear]

Devon is good where he goes through good analysis, purposefully falling short of giving his own opinion.

[winged knoll]

and what kind of law does he practice that allow him to have time to pump out videos constantly like that

hmm hmmmm

[jolly sky]

Whatever he's doing he must have a lot of spare time in Asia, where he currently resides.

[mossy timber]

I just don't know where someone says Thor was trying to cancel Matt Patt came from, anyone have any clues on that? Did he just say he doesn't like Game Theory at some point and people are trying to make something out of it?

[jolly sky]

So not only has he not practiced his own law in his own country in years, he's talking about laws he has no practice or experience in from a completely different country

[late bane]

Since you put it that way, yeah I see what you mean now

[winged knoll]

Matt Patt called Hearthbound an Undertale clone something something

[patent bear]

Wasn't the MattPatt debacle about Thor debunking Matt's claims on some things? Not cancelling him.

[high canyon]

thats even funnier cause its so old that Matt Patt doesnt even own or run that channel anymore

Matt Patt cashed out and sold his channel, good for him

[waxen comet]

i unfortunately dont know much about lawyers

[mossy timber]

I don't think he sold it, it just isn't the guy infront of the camera anymore

[winged knoll]

#streamchat message

#streamchat message

[waxen comet]

but i had a lawyer teach a course and he covered a LOT of stuff

not just in his own field

basically he taught us teh constitution

[winged knoll]

These are words from community, you'd have to find proof yourself tho, i'm a lazy bum

[waxen comet]

and he also had to learn and study a copyright course

[jolly sky]

There was no attempted cancelling of Mattpat whatsoever. IIRC all it was is that the Heartbound wasn't credited when it was shown basically, and Thor was a little peeved about it

[waxen comet]

even though he isnt a copyright lawyer

[winged osprey]

Game theorists is in the hands of private equity now so pretty safe to say mattpat sold out

[high canyon]

he sold it in 2022 and continued to star in it until 2024; he has no stake it in anymore from what ive read

[high canyon]

cashed out, I dont think there is anything necessarily negative with working hard for years and then cashing out your investment

[distant rapids]

The only real way i interact with mattpat stuff is laugh when astralspiff references him somehow

[winged osprey]

Oh right sorry bad wording on my part

[silent plank]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-matpat-game-theory-theory-toby-fox-gif-1628045471907910689

[high canyon]

lol

[mossy timber]

well another channel nuked from my algorithm

I wonder if someone is going to bring back up the lie "He said he'd never DMCA someone and he did it to a guy" when he said he'd never DMCA over Heartbound's soundtrack and the guy he sent something to had claimed he was going to use Thor's voice and likeness in a video game, I don't know if that's even DMCA or just sending a cease & desist

[winged knoll]

The guy reported that Thor DMCA him

so that were the source

unclear if Thor made an DMCA claim or CnD

[radiant escarp]

someone I know keeps pulling that out of the trash

[carmine sierra]

Technically it's not a valid DMCA, if you can't verify that your copyrighted material is used in the product
But like
Even so, I'd say it was a reasonable approach
If someone shows promo material for something that isn't released yet, and that promo material uses your copyrighted content, it's safe to assume the thing itself will as well
And when it was explained that it didn't, Thor retracted the DMCA

[mossy timber]

I think a lot of people call too many things DMCA when that's just certain things that falls under

[carmine sierra]

Nah this actually was a DMCA, through Steam's system

Thor said so himself

[mossy timber]

ah

[carmine sierra]

The dumbest thing was Thor saying they followed legal processes for it, and people interpreted that as "taking legal action" and saying Thor was threatening to sue

Which...never happened

https://x.com/PirateSoftware/status/1884935856856904012

Pirate Software (@PirateSoftware)

@TheOtherFrost The DMCA was absolutely not unlawful. We filed a DMCA in response to the developer claiming that he put my voice in his videogame in a playable build and he showed evidence of this on video via a Reddit thread.
https://t.co/NNsxJb5U4k

He was told by many others that doing this

X · Jan 30, 2025, 12:05 PM

Thor's post about it

[jolly sky]

It was absolutely DMCA bait by that guy that Thor was forced into carrying out

[dusk pine]

oh...that guy has a history of claiming things about people that are false and angling to get views rubs temples

the person he was responding to in that old tweet I should say

[silent plank]

DMCA bait? like they intentionally want to get DMCA'd?

[carmine sierra]

Ah but you see, he asked a lawyer and the lawyer said it was an illegal DMCA, so Thor is just a terrible person

[jolly sky]

Attention babyyyyyyyy

[silent plank]

lol

[jolly sky]

And as we're very much aware by now, people do all sorts of heinous dumb things for attention

[carmine sierra]

Putting copyrighted material in a promo video for a game that hasn't released yet, but supposedly not putting that copyrighted material in the game itself, so you can cry foul when the game gets DMCA'd over it

[waxen comet]

if promotion includes DMCA able items then it seems reasonable, even in a court of law, to conclude that you include material that wasnt yours

[indigo wadi]

an illegal dmca feels like an oxymoron

[jolly sky]

Like making 14 videos of drama slop for example

[silent plank]

"Pirat Software is Over"

[carmine sierra]

Oh and giving the explanation that the game itself didn't have copyrighted material and also threatening a counter-suit in the same response, so when the DMCA gets retracted you can claim Thor only did so because you threatened to sue
That was the cherry on top

[silent plank]

i saw the screenshot of that channel and it cracks me up

[mossy timber]

"pirate lost 25k subs on YT" so about 1% of his total sub count?

[jolly sky]

This is why if any games that are being actively made (mostly in AAA spaces) likely contain a lot of DMCA-able content as placeholder while in development, but its kept very much under wraps and under NDA, and replaced with the developers actual work as its built up

Unlike that Dev that Thor DMCA'd who bloody streamed and uploaded his development and had Thors voice in it

[carmine sierra]

And bragged about the whole thing being bait

[glad owl]

Did Steam restored the guys game?

[winged knoll]

just checked that guy twitter, Thor live rent free in his head

[winged knoll]

yep

[carmine sierra]

But people will fall over themselves to justify anything that bashes Thor

So nothing this guy did wrong matters, and Thor is an irredeemable piece of shit for filing the DMCA in the first place

[jolly sky]

The Dev or 14 drama slop videos nutter

[winged knoll]

the dev

[carmine sierra]

(And yes, I've had conversations that were basically this twice over the past week on this exact point)

[glad owl]

Oh

[jolly sky]

Yea not surprised, trying to get a crumb of the attention that he did during the DMCA moments

[karmic valley]

Sadly, it feels like rage gets them paid and way too many people are willing to rage when their bubble tells them what they want to hear.

[glad owl]

Steam didn’t think the DMCA was valid?

[waxen comet]

i had a short convo about his wow thing which i keep getting conflicting informatiion on

even to this day i dont know anymore

[jolly sky]

No, it was resolved between Thor and the Dev, and then Thor dropped it

[exotic forge]

It's one of the many things people don't actually try to accurately portray Thor's stance

[waxen comet]

i actually have to be on the WOW community and deep dive into the culture to truly understand at this point

[carmine sierra]

Nothing this guy did matters
Putting copyrighted content in the promo doesn't matter
Openly saying it was all bait doesn't matter
Only Thor filing the DMCA matters, and it only matters because the particular thing it was filed over didn't have copyrighted material
Which is the most hair-splitting technicality of the situation possible to justify the mental gymnastics that let you keep Pirate Software as The Villain™

[winged knoll]

Since Thor retracted the claim, Steam probably restore his game

[safe berry]

"It's over for Pirat Software!"

[winged knoll]

"It's done for Pirat Software!"

[carmine sierra]

The game wasn't out at the time anyway, it was a preemptive DMCA on the listing of the future release

[silent plank]

"The end of Pirat Software"

[safe berry]

"Game OVER for Pirate Software"

[exotic forge]

"The final chapter for Pirate Software"

[karmic valley]

It does make me wonder how the inducers of a lot of this, got so rageful to begin with.

[jolly sky]

Again, DMCA bait for attention, and to force Thor into having to make a DMCA claim for attention. And then that obviously lead to the "tHoR iS bAD" rhetoric

[glad owl]

Ah, he removed the DMCA

[radiant escarp]

god the comments on that tweet are awful. Especially sicne the guy openly said it was a bait for promotion.

[high canyon]

I love people keep making videos with those titles and people keep leaving comments like that, but the last 10 twitch streams Thor has done has averaged like 170K views on twitch, he dont seem cooked to me

[waxen comet]

i dont even know what those videos are about

[carmine sierra]

Viewership really hasn't dropped in the time I've been watching since all of this started

[high canyon]

"quit streaming dude, its over" 5k viewers on twitch, 500 viewers on youtube

[karmic valley]

It's an attempt to drive a narrative, so that it becomes true

[waxen comet]

ngl this feels like a mass disinformation campaign

[jolly sky]

Thors still getting 4-5K + even when he's just going through config code for Block game all day

He's doing fine

[karmic valley]

It's an attempt to play on human nature to stick with a group, which will catch people and make them shift sides.

[high canyon]

Not that numbers are all that matters, but Thor had almost 5k more subs on twitch than someone like Iron Mouse (before her massive return to twitch stream)

[shadow dawn]

Mods are basically just stuck cleaning the ocean of trash that accumulated

[waxen comet]

im very much in a central role, who probably metronomes very little to either side

centrist?

[glad owl]

Block game streams are mad boring. Kinda miss his gaming streams

[waxen comet]

idk the term

neutral

[jolly sky]

Yea that really sucks

[high canyon]

that's fair, not everyone enjoys the same kinda streams ❤️

[karmic valley]

It feels like you've got EvE social manipulators and mass psychosis rolled into one

[jolly sky]

He'll get to it, he just really didn't want Blockgame to stay down any longer than it has

[waxen comet]

feels like nijisisters thing

[frosty socket]

Gaming streams will return soon, emsice the majority of the work on blockgame's update is done

[carmine sierra]

I'm in the stance of like
There are some areas that I disagree with Thor on or think he could have handled better
But nitpicking over that while two thirds of the internet seems to be coming for his blood just feels like feeding into that, and isn't worth spending time on

[radiant escarp]

I'm kinda curious on what he'll do if the whole Hytale buyout goes through and Simon gets it back

[jolly sky]

You'd be worried at how close to the truth you are

[karmic valley]

Who ?

[glad owl]

It’s still harder to watch

[lapis flame]

games will return

[radiant escarp]

it's also hard to keep a level head with all this dirrected at you, it's pretty easy to forget that when you're on the sidelines

[frosty socket]

Oh, for sure, I just put it into background and play other games

[carmine sierra]

I'm just there for the community and vibes, whether it's games or Blockgame dev doesn't matter much to me 😛

[glad owl]

I feel like the dev streams don’t have focus, it’s like random config edits. No burn down chart

[carmine sierra]

Nah, he's been pretty directed about it

[glad owl]

I want games. But that’s just me

[jolly sky]

Yep granted, and thats the case for a lot of people, which makes it good that he's still pulling average 5K viewers even when he's just doing that, and that was about the same numbers even before WoW Onlyfangs happened

[carmine sierra]

He references back to the changelist he has written out and checks things off as he completes them

He's just frequently distracted by chat, but that's because the streams are primarily about community interaction and entertainment

[glad owl]

still boring

[frosty socket]

What's hilarious is people going "he's cooked because he's dropped from 25k streams to 5k" no, he just had "The WoW Effect" active

[jolly sky]

Well, like it or lump it, mans gonna do what he wants to do

And Blockgame is important to him, and the community

[carmine sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dude-yeah-well-you-know-thats-just-like-your-opinion-man-gif-10470601

[silent plank]

when the game is block

[terse pelican]

!blockgame

[dapper raven]

You can play our MMO built in Minecraft Java 1.21.4 here! https://blockgame.info You can also check out the community wiki here! https://blockgame.piratesoftware.wiki

[strange owl]

it's still up from the 700 or so for the first 7 years

[glad owl]

When is it done?

[exotic forge]

Burn down chart? You're turning game dev into actual corporate work lol

[karmic valley]

Is an MMO ever done ?

[mossy timber]

I think most people are just angry he's still more successful than them at this point

[carmine sierra]

It's live now, probably a bit more debugging left to do

[jolly sky]

IIRC Blockgame is now playable

THe server went live on Wednesday

[frosty socket]

Definitely the case among the YouTubers going after him

[jolly sky]

(with bugs still to fix of course)

[winged knoll]

There's a block game channel too #blockgame-general

[glad owl]

No access

[strange owl]

you have to pick the role

[jolly sky]

Yea you'd need the Blockgame role to see it in id:customize

[terse pelican]

You need the Blockgame Role

[winged knoll]

go to id:customize and pick Blockgame Role

[ocean agate]

i think it also has to do with the standard that most people dont do also. he bans people regualarly, where as a lot of channels think that they do that and no one will ever be around. so they dont understand how he has a huge following if he bans so many people

[glad owl]

Ty

Are going to get to play BG with Thor?

[mossy timber]

One of my fave webcomics, Dominic Deegan, had a forum at one point, the author actually stayed away from it and I wish I had too. Like these people obsessively looked for anything to say his art and writing were bad and hate reading every page as it went up. Honestly think they were all just jaded that they couldn't manage a webcomic anyone cared about.

[glad owl]

Or is he just dev on stream

[carmine sierra]

Dominic Deegan mentioned

https://tenor.com/view/bromance-sig-curtis-alex-louis-armstrong-fullmetal-fma-gif-18194534

[ocean agate]

Thor hangs out with the communinty on stream and plays games together, he also comes to discord and lurks and hangs out in VC sometimes

[mossy timber]

I have one of the scarfs too

[carmine sierra]

[distant rapids]

Sometimes you can even summon him by giving the mods bread. Sometimes.

[strange owl]

bread is bad for mods, they get all bloated. Give them Greggs.

[distant rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/three-uk-greggs-real5g-5g-vegan-gif-16421043

... fair. Greggs for the mods!

[glad owl]

Money talks

[proud depot]

the what-now?

[exotic forge]

I think he rubbed the onlyfangs members' egos the wrong way. He also went against SKG which will make people turn off their brain and just start to hate you by default

[glad owl]

It was nasty how the kicked him

[manic elk]

ah

[exotic forge]

Their egos were hurt and now they gotta exact revenge on pirate

[high canyon]

I dont think T1 would have kicked him, Soda (who wasnt even acting Guild leader) jumped in and did it

[mossy timber]

Honestly I think even the level people went after him for OF Dire Maul was because of his SKG video, I actually saw comments of "Oh, I knew I didn't like him for some reason"

[carmine sierra]

Clipped out of context saying he was reporting accounts to some contacts at Blizzard, and claimed that he was doing it to people who he had a grudge against
When it was really things like a guy named "Ropeandchair" sending him death threats

[glad owl]

I miss the wow streams

Classic gaming 😍

[proud depot]

There are comments on tiktoks, shorts, videos (etc) from back in janurary actually defending what thor did and saying it was everyone elses fault cause the leader said it was every man for himself in there

[mossy timber]

OF was a failed experiment in the end, it was a bunch of people trying to use it for a leg up on their viewer count

[ocean agate]

Blockgame work has been interesting, not exciting but interesting

[high canyon]

someone sent him a very specific threat in game about harming thor at a con, thor said "im gunna report this guy and blizzard will definitly do something about it" and people clipped it out of context too

[exotic forge]

Hmm maybe there were but majority of the comments were attacking Pirate

[carmine sierra]

As they should be
When the raid leader gives the order to run, you run
You don't try to revert that order afterward
Especially when another pack had been pulled during the run

[glad owl]

It was great entertainment

[mossy timber]

man that Molten Core Meltdown

[glad owl]

💯

[frosty socket]

Damnit, Goblins, not even streaming yet, and we're already got a level 2 hypetrain going, almost level 3

[terse pelican]

We back talking about the Forbidden topic?

[glad owl]

What happened?

[exotic forge]

My guess is Thor talked with authority and power in his tone and voice. Soda and some of the onlyfangs members got butthurt about it and they went into the whole situation trying to incite hate on Thor

[high canyon]

bread to the mods? always

[warm trench]

lvl 4.5

[glad owl]

ChadThor vs Virgin OF

[high canyon]

ghost train baby

choo choo

[ocean agate]

still no 7s

[carmine sierra]

Defending your own decisions means saying they're all perfectly fine and you did nothing wrong at all, yes
(Please disregard every time after when he said he'd screwed up, those don't matter)

[ocean agate]

7s confirmed

[frosty socket]

Sevens in Chat, Stream is a GO!

[high canyon]

boom

[mossy timber]

Only Fangs did a Molten Core run where half of them ran when the lead was telling them to stand their ground, there were a bunch of videos, Asmongold even threw in his 2 cents and said he was right that Thor wasn't the problem.

[exotic forge]

Thor could've said "My bad guys, I made a boo boo. Let me take my punishment. Hey Soda, what punishment should I do for OF?"

I think that would've resolve Soda's bruised ego and it would've gone away. That's not Thor though.

[proud depot]

probably a leftover of his hacking days, where he needed to sound authoritative and confident about everything

[umbral moat]

Do remember that it happened during the week that T1 was in charge, not Soda.

[carmine sierra]

Especially when getting singled out by one of the other teammates

[high canyon]

I think T1 was mad that Soda kicked Thor, cause i dont think he even asked T1

[proud depot]

honestly I would be the same way if I thought I was in the right about something. Why should I apologize just cause someone's butthurt about it?

[glad owl]

I would have liked to see more wow

[indigo wadi]

except it wasn't thor's fault as he didn't make the call to run? Like why are we discussing this AGAIN?

[high canyon]

new drama makes us recall old dramam

[glad owl]

Who’s T1? The terminator

[terse pelican]

Tyler1

[high canyon]

Tyler 1, a streamer Thor actually had alot of respect for and spoke highly of during OF

[frosty socket]

Good at LoL, was getting there in WoW, but...

[proud depot]

also like every other comment on every drama video is mentioning this as some sort of gotcha

[high canyon]

Tyler 1 is insanely talent at learning games; he taught himself chess and got really good

[exotic forge]

Oh yeah. This isn't a case of Thor needed to apologize because he was wrong. This was a case of fragile egos being bruised because of the way Thor talked

[glad owl]

But he was the leader who kicked Thor?

[exotic forge]

Unforutnately, this is behavior that a lot of members in onlyfangs are used to

[high canyon]

no, it appears Soda, the original guild leader who gave up the role, came back and kicked Thor as an executive decision

[opaque raven]

Its kinda funny that I learned about Tyler1 on the chess community and only recently here I knew he was well known on WoW, LoL and etc

[winged knoll]

That was sopapoppin

[glad owl]

You think Thor could have stayed in the guild? Would have been cool

[patent bear]

Pretty sure Thor did a whole tweet about this.

[carmine sierra]

Doesn't make it any less toxic
I wouldn't put up with it myself, either

[high canyon]

He was in the guild for several days after the drama nexus event

[proud depot]

https://tenor.com/view/how-dare-you-bunny-schneiderman-mid-century-modern-how-could-you-the-audacity-gif-6635709250206838831

[high canyon]

he ran dungeons with several guildies and all went well

[exotic forge]

He would've been forced to change his personality which isn't right

[glad owl]

What do you mean?

[exotic forge]

Sorry if it came off that way but I'm not trying to say Thor should've reacted differently

[jolly sky]

The schadenfreude of seeing T1 go off on Yamato was delicious

[carmine sierra]

Ah, gotcha

[proud depot]

stream is up, might want to drop the topic of drama. (just saying, I am not a mod and am not telling others what to do)

[ocean agate]

you cant force someone to change, you just make them pretend while around certain people

[high canyon]

yay strim tyme ❤️

[glad owl]

Schandefreude?

[proud depot]

a level 6 hype train before the stream even starts

[mossy timber]

Only Fangs should have been about a bunch of streamers helping each other out and having a good time together in a game.... but between a lot of egos grating on each other and the nature of play -HARDCORE- WoW, it was bound to eventually be a complete mess

[carmine sierra]

Taking pleasure in others' suffering or misfortune

[exotic forge]

Nah it was never about that at the top. It was about a bunch of degens doing degen things and subjecting other streamers to follow their lead

[mossy timber]

in b4 "which mod is paying for the hype train?" is a thing

[winged knoll]

That would never have happened when there's a lot of personality clashes

[exotic forge]

Thor isn't a degen but they wanted him to act like one

[carmine sierra]

Also, correct me if I'm wrong about this
In the conversation later with Tyler1 after Dire Maul, didn't Yamato jump into the call unprompted and ask for the floor, which is why Thor left the call?
I think I remember hearing that it was just supposed to be a conversation between Thor and Tyler

[jolly sky]

Especially seeing T1 go off on Yamato for doing the very thing that he alone accused Thor of doing at the moment

[winged knoll]

Streamers aren't well known for not having huge ego

[exotic forge]

Yes Yamato kept interrupting and attacking Thor during the call which is why he left

[terse pelican]

T1 wassn't in that conversation IIRC, T1 was pulled in way later?

[jolly sky]

IIRC T1 was the mediator

[mossy timber]

Man, I have some stories about clashes and drama in WoW guilds... I quit the game because I was just sick of being angry at people that never cared if they wasted the time of everyone else in the guild

[safe berry]

https://tenor.com/view/and-still-undefeated-ufc-bruce-gif-3041716129810018697

[proud depot]

the solidarity of this community against the onslaught of bullshit is truly incredible

[jolly sky]

Yamato was the only person trying to blame Thor in that group, the people who died were of course disappointed, but none of them were throwing shade at Thor. Only Yamato was looking for this scapegoat

[glad owl]

can Thor get back into OF?

[terse pelican]

No.

[glad owl]

I wanna see more wow

[radiant escarp]

there's been some stuff stirring about the original lead dev of hytale buying the IP back from Riot and releasing an early build as a stepping stone for funding and then working on the original engine.

[jolly sky]

He's not going to touch that with a 100 quadrillion foot bargepole

[karmic valley]

He's not going back to WoW

[untold seal]

OnlyFangs was created for drama and memes. They got their drama and memes and got mad about it. The entire thing should have been like wrestling. Thor could have been the heel, the bad guy in the video game. It could have been hilarious.

But then they took it to real life.

[peak nymph]

What if 'run' doesn't just mean leaving the scene as fast as possible, but ensuring that everyone gets out alive?

[carmine sierra]

Yeah, that's basically what I heard about it as well
Every time there's drama like this, it's people on the sidelines bashing Thor for one thing or another, and all of the actual "wronged" parties don't give a shit

[glad owl]

SadFerret.jpg

[carmine sierra]

The AoC incident is the biggest indicator of that

[glad owl]

AOC?

[mossy timber]

Hell I thought druids sucked as healers for most of my time in Wrath of the Lich King just because of how bad the healers in a guild I ran with here... In Naxx as a paladin I outhealed druids playing wack-a-mole as a single target healer, we didn't get group healing till the end of that X-pac

[karmic valley]

MMO's have their own politics, messy things

[carmine sierra]

Ashes of Creation

[glad owl]

Not the congress lady? 😦

[exotic forge]

lol whats this

[jolly sky]

Then you don't know that much about Hardcore WoW, or that dungeon. Someone was going to die in that dungeon after the pulling of 3 groups of enemies, it was an impossible scenario to save everyone. When you make the call to Run, you RUN.

[karmic valley]

Druid healing is weird because of the original debuff limits back in the day combined with minmaxed buffs, which is why blizz became more lax with buffs

[glad owl]

AOC looks really cool

[indigo wadi]

Because in Hardcore, Run means GTFO. It does not mean sacrificing yourself for the sake of others. It's never meant that.

[glad owl]

Thanks

[karmic valley]

Surprised they all didn't die with the sheer recklessness

[indigo wadi]

and Thor stated there was nothing he could to do save others without saccing himself

[exotic forge]

I don't play hardcore WOW and it could mean that. Let's pretend you're right. Was all this drama, hate and harrassment really warranted?

[karmic valley]

Likely wouldn't have saved anyone either

[carmine sierra]

Basically, there was one night he was running content with his group in Ashes of Creation
People had been pulling things they weren't supposed to and Thor was getting frustrated
He ends up accidentally pulling something himself, thought it was someone else, and snapped at the group over it
That's usually where the narrative ends, and goes into how toxic he is etc etc

In reality, they looked at the VOD footage after, Thor realized he'd been the one to do it that time, called himself a dumbass and everyone laughed about it, and they continued raiding together afterward
None of his group care about it, it was just tensions getting high and people getting heated in harder content, which is pretty common
But everyone else who wasn't even involved use it as a gotcha about Thor being a piece of shit

[glad owl]

Greatest game ever! I want to see more classic wow

[terse pelican]

I'm sure there's plenty of streamers still playing it, can watch one of those

[untold seal]

Look, even if Thor did not ran, and tried to help, and everyone still died. They would have still found a way to blame him. He already had targets on him way before wow drama. People were waiting for the perfect moment to pounce

[proud depot]

Ooh there's a new emote to unlock!

[exotic forge]

The way a lot of these OnlyFangs streamers treated Thor inciting hate and harrassment has really soured my taste on any hardcore WOW streams

[ocean agate]

are kobolds goblins that code in cobolt?

[karmic valley]

At least we immediately got to tell peoples personalities off it

[mossy timber]

Thor has become a dragon people need to slay, and all they will do is try to do that, they talked more about him than they do their precious SKG, I only heard an update about that from Asmongold

[winged knoll]

The command should be clear imo if you are the shotcaller

[winged knoll]

Dragon deez nut

[opaque raven]

what
WHAT

[glad owl]

That’s disheartening. Games should be fun

[carmine sierra]

Wholeheartedly agreed

[karmic valley]

It's like the blades trying to kill parthanax but without Parthanax's history

[mossy timber]

go ask the mind goblin what ligma is

[glad owl]

Eh, not as fun without Thor

[karmic valley]

Its alpha and testing, swings and roundabouts

[opaque raven]

By the geneva suggestions Kobolds are not allowed to get close to computers, let alone code

[peak nymph]

I know nothing about WoW, but I've heard PS say that mages save lives when things go shit. In this case, he was the first to get out, by a huge margin, while everyone else tried to safe each other.

[winged knoll]

Yesterday i talked with some people, they said Kobold can't even do math

[glad owl]

I was just looking the game isn’t out?

[jolly sky]

Then things go that badly, there's only so much anyone can do. And that scenario, what everyone hoped could happen just, wouldn't

[proud depot]

if it gets taken in for talking by the EU, it might even be years before we hear anything more about it. There have been ones that were adopted for talking which then got turned into law like seven years later

[exotic forge]

I can't verify it but don't you agree that the amount of hate and harrassment Thor got out of it was still not acceptable regardless of whether he could've helped or not?

[mossy timber]

I sympathize with Thor because I've seen people deal with this shit, I've had family that dealt with people spinning narrative against them

[carmine sierra]

He was out of mana and had already thrown down everything he could to cover their escape
Though he did forget about the mana gem and cloak, but honestly those would have been enough for another handful of spells, not enough to turn the fight around or get anyone else out

[peak nymph]

A simple sorry would have ended it all there. I can't really talk about all the drama, because so much more has happened since.

[glad owl]

I seen a lot of drama stuff in gaming. Is any of it valid?

[exotic forge]

And if Thor didn't say sorry, would that make all the hate and harrasment he got acceptable?

[opaque raven]

Some can, some can't
What they usually struggle with is inorganic chemistry and no closed-form integrals, the poor babies

[karmic valley]

Mages can sometimes save lives, which happened in multiple other dungeons.

Dire maul is ruthless, particularly with patrols and mobs in general.
The grouo had already nearly wiped earlier because the group leadership skimped on materials and didn't educate people on the skips.

Why you'd try the skips on hardcore, who knows, complacancy ?

Then during a tactical withdrawal after your overpull, including the boss that you are avoiding killing, deciding to stay ? absolute madness.

[untold seal]

This like those moments after shooting or some crap. You get Internet keyboard warrior who think they are special forces, talking about how they would have done this or that if they were in that situation, easy peasy

[mossy timber]

honestly I think SKG is a mess in it's wording, but we do honestly have a wider issue with digital consumer rights with things like Amazon and Crunchyroll deleting digital videos that people purchase

[jolly sky]

I don't know about you, but If I have someone trying to get into my face and make me take all the blame, I'm not going to be in an apologetic mood, and nor would I bow down to it.

He admitted he made mistakes after he got the hell away from Yamato.

[carmine sierra]

He was getting singled out by one of the other party members while the run was still happening for managing to escape
And things never really calmed down from there, because the guy doing it kept coming after him even when it was over

[exotic forge]

I don't think a simply sorry would've ended it. If Thor became very apolagetic about the situation and did some things on the whim of the Onlyfangs leaders maybe.

Regardless, would that make all the hate and harrasment he got acceptable?

[proud depot]

oh I am in favor of a law forcing media companies to allow ALL their shows and movies to be on other platforms, even if its for purchase. I shouldn't need to make 10 different accounts to watch everything

[peak nymph]

Exactly, he forgot. Hindsight probably wouldn't have made a difference, but at least acknowledge that there was more to be tried.

[untold seal]

Let us be real here. Will you try to have a conversation with someone screaming at you? This ain't the military. It is a video game lmao

[brazen jasper]

Ye, in classic Mage is one of the best classes that controls a group of monsters, its also the reason why mages can power farm a lot of mobs alone when done correctly. they pretty broken class tbh

[carmine sierra]

Which he has since then, several times that I've seen
(This was supposed to be @peak nymph )

[flat moat]

And become a push over? Nah, that isn't it

[exotic forge]

Would you mind answering this question. Would Thor not apologizing make all the hate and harrasment he got acceptable?

[glad owl]

Why should Thor apologize

[carmine sierra]

(Sorry Fizzy that was supposed to be at Ram)

[patent bear]

So why, for a streamer guild, that is designed for content, does Thor have to cop the crap out of everything else and anything else that has arisen based on the guild?

[exotic forge]

I'd like an answer to the question first

[karmic valley]

Contradicting Orders, people delaying and fighting, daisy chaining when they stop in an area that has 3 or so patrols, one of which they'd eliminated earlier but the other 2 were live.

The druid did some great play until they rear pulled a patrol, which immediately dumped aggro onto the priest.

Their Priest whom has hard carrying the group, then dies and the rest follow.
The tank got luck to get out, the rogue fled using their gtfo mechanics and druid bit the dust.

The only decision was to slow fight out, something that would have happened if they'd followed the initial plan and not had chaos.

[proud depot]

and its not garunteed that him doing anytyhing different would have changed anything

[peak nymph]

Hate and harrasment is never right

[untold seal]

And like I said, Only Fangs got their content. The entire point of making that guild waa ri farm content. They got it, and then got mad about it

[carmine sierra]

Then why are we focusing so much on what Thor could or should have done?

[exotic forge]

You agree then that Thor did not deserve all the hate and harrassment from the community

[glad owl]

Thor should not apologize. Never apologize.

[mossy timber]

it's more the issue that Amazon sold people digital copies of movies and shows then at a contract end deleted them from libraries and want to point some line deep in TOS that says the purchase isn't truely a purchase. Crunchyroll is worse because they wiped out every bit of people's Funimation digital libraries just because they don't want to maintain it.

[glad owl]

cancel culture is just a mob mentality

[jolly sky]

Apologise for things worth apologising for when you know you were in the wrong*

Like in the case where he openly apologised for his behaviour towards Ross.

[karmic valley]

There was nothing to say Sorry for in the WoW incident, the only person I'd have even said Sorry to was to the Priest, after I'd decided not to leave the group after the 1st attempt went sideways when it was clear the group could never do dire maul.

[mossy timber]

rule of the mob and voting for leopards to eat faces

[proud depot]

yeah all media should be available for purchase (at least) on all other streaming platforms, so that they don't dissapear. like the BBC deciding that all of doctor who should be behind the britbox paywall instead of available for purchase on amazon prime itself

[karmic valley]

Without WoW knowledge its easy to jusy presume stuff on the wow incident but with knowledge its frankly silly

[carmine sierra]

Agreed

[glad owl]

Never apologize! The internet smells blood and will exploit it

[warm trench]

Something about a kobold channel?