streamchat

[jolly sky]

A swarm of out of context clips, coming to an online space near you!

[knotty marsh]

[frosty socket]

i mean, tehy wre 5s long when new, sooo...

[elder scaffold]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgNCgJG0vnY bf6 trailer reveal ;o

[wicked schooner]

So battlefield 2042 was not battlefield 6?

[elder scaffold]

apparently not lmao

battlefield naming scheme is very odd

[wicked schooner]

What happened to battlefield 7 to 2041?

[elder scaffold]

we went 1942, bad company, 2142, bad company 2, battlefield 3, battlefield 4, hardline, battlefield 1, battlefield 5, 2042, and now battlefield 6

[wicked schooner]

Im just gonna hope this wont be a total dumpster fire like 2042 was

[azure glen]

The extra tools were added like half a year ago orso. It is an improvement over what it was before

[astral crypt]

Oh yeah. Made no sense to not have those tools.

[quartz sonnet]

Just wait two years for them to fix the release version, then purchase the game like a true Battlefield fan.

[exotic forge]

Real

[blissful imp]

Hulk Hogan is dead

[wind hare]

Ozzy took him to hell with him

[late bane]

Eesh

[ocean agate]

rule of 3s

[wind hare]

Nice will be Vince McMan

Next

[late bane]

Im actually shocked Alice Cooper is still going

That lifestyle is hard hitting

[wind hare]

He probably has the same drug dealer as Keith Richards

[late bane]

At 77 its probably his Dr

[wind hare]

It reminds me of the Mr Burns Dr visit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnBtoOAhba4

[flat moat]

Prince of Darkness will always need a brother by his side

[wind hare]

I judge people based on if the Undertaker would stand up for someone. Hulk was lacking.

[jolly sky]

Yea. While its a shame he's died of course, RIP, I can respect his work in the wrestling scene, but his beliefs and actions later on in life not so much

[wispy cave]

Two of the biggest heel turns of all time tbh

[wind hare]

I don't know, Cena is doing an amazing job right now

[wispy cave]

NWO was an iconic shift tho

[hazy storm]

Imho cena is ten times the actor the Rock is

And ten times the person

[wind hare]

I was disappointed when I heard the Rock put so many stipulations into his contracts. I love that John will just do whatever it takes for the role.

[brittle brook]

ya, Cena is comedic gold on screen

and just a few more weeks till Peacemaker S2

[hasty grail]

https://tenor.com/view/batista-wwe-deal-with-it-gangsta-shades-on-gif-16209668

[brittle brook]

Batista's prob the best dramatic actor from wrestling

[dusky grove]

I mean, the rock is a baby of an actor, literally contractually can't lose like a kid in the playground using their everything-proof shield

[jolly sky]

It was especially funny in films featuring the Rock, and Vin Diesel where they both have those contractual stipulations

[hasty grail]

Diesel is fine

[hazy storm]

I think Cena holds the record for most Make a Wish wishes granted

While on the other hand The Rock answered a high schoolers request to be her prom date... by going on their high schools PA system and announcing she had free tickets to his movie. His plug lasted longer than his words to her. 💀

[hasty grail]

i wish he could do more fantasy roles

[wind hare]

I went out of my way to not watch those movies. I watch enough bad movies that I didn't need to add those to the list

[proud coral]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-dance-ena-gif-27696814

[stone crane]

where is the source of him being a real estate lawyer

all i can find his municipal law

i dont know where you pulled real estate from

[winter sierra]

That server tag

[stone crane]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-morgan-dexter-new-blood-jim-lindsay-gif-6844957641813999649

[worthy ivy]

he is a better actor, but the trouble is people have a hard time spotting him in the scene

holy timetravel batman!

[jolly sky]

https://lawofselfdefense.com/alc-bundle-6/

[exotic forge]

Holy reddit is a cesspool. Comments ridiculing or celebrating about Hulk Hogan dying are disgusting.

[jolly sky]

He's basically accusing someone of fraud, if he's a real estate lawyer then yes, you do some finance stuff but he's not a finance lawyer and he's not a fraud lawyer either.

[stone crane]

thanks for the clarification

[worthy ivy]

he was into "special districts"... some sinister stuff right there if it's the "special districts" I think it is...
no politics, but isn't the "special districts" regs the stuff that let's Disney pass their own laws and that?

[stone crane]

yes

[golden latch]

The mini state/city within a state yes

[worthy ivy]

oof

I hate that I know these things

put me back in blissful ignorance please

[lapis tartan]

Spend as long on the internet as I have and you get burdened with eldritch knowledge...

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-cursed-with-knowledge-thanos-gif-14242316

[stone crane]

it seems more and more common know that regular people are opening up to the true reality of our lives

[jolly sky]

This isn't the place to talk about that

[split copper]

What's the basis of the fraud accusation, anyway? The hype train subs? How would that be fraud even if Thor himself had bought the subs? There's no rules against subscribing to yourself on alts, is there? Let alone a legal issue with doing it. Who's getting defrauded?

somehow I fit a whole round of 20 questions in a single message

[lapis tartan]

I can answer it in 2 words.

It's dumb.

[split copper]

I mean I got that much

[jolly sky]

All these questions that chat hoppers and server invading drama seekers refuse to think about when they come here or onto the Twitch/Youtube chat and throw up their nonsense into it

[lapis tartan]

Thinking? While we hoard the 7 neurons. You expect too much.

[worthy ivy]

the fraud thing is so stupid it hurts

[split copper]

I'm curious to know the thought process behind the accusation of fraud, but not curious enough to watch youtube slop

stupidity via osmosis is a real and present danger on the internet

[worthy ivy]

some know-nothing lawtuber thinks "bits" are "money" and "alts" are "impersonation" and has gone hog-wild on the brain-bleed-inducing stupidity

[jolly sky]

Even funnier, the accusation of fraud by someone who isn't even a fraud lawyer, and pretends that he knows all about it because he has some of knowledge and practice of a completely seperate area of law

[wind hare]

Its funny that Khronos's cat is now the streamer and he's just helping moderate the stream for them 😛

[lapis tartan]

Intentional vagueness, with implied double speak and then let the mob misinterpret things into accusations.

[split copper]

I mean, to be fair you don't have to be a lawyer to point at something and say "I think that's fraud"

[worthy ivy]

given he was involved with 'special districts' I'll bet he knows an absolute crapton about fraud!

[split copper]

I saw that, cat has more screenspace than his webcam

as it should be

[lapis tartan]

"Not saying it's true, but if it is, Thor is 3 ferrets in a mission impossible mask that writes one piece."

[jolly sky]

That is true, but because of his, lack of a better word "aura", people see it at face value and assume that its coming from a legal standpoint, considering his entire channel talks about Laws and the standpoint of them

[worthy ivy]

I said it before: lawtubers are just dramatubers with extra steps

[split copper]

Impersonation of whom exactly? And where is the fraud in this hypothetical scenario? Even if Thor was puppetmastering a bunch of alts and subscribing/donating bits to himself I don't know that that's even a breach of TOS let alone illegal

Twitch gets paid, I'm sure Twitch doesn't care

[exotic forge]

There's no rules against it and in fact, it's a practice that's done by others. It looks bad from the outside but people regularly use alts to donate if they don't want to be doxxed / want some privacy

[lapis tartan]

I'm fond of Legal Eagle though.

[split copper]

well I mean obviously they don't since Thor wasn't termed

[jolly sky]

I do too, especially when his video goes into areas of law, and instead of just winging it, he gets someone else on to talk about the area of Law he doesn't know about/is unfamiliar with

[worthy ivy]

pass
even trying to think about it gave me permanent brainrot

now if you will excuse me, my skibidi rizz needs polishing with some booze

[hasty grail]

https://imgur.com/srYsWqk

have this instead

[split copper]

It's a Gin evening pour moi

just waiting on delivery

[split copper]

Smells like heresy to me

[exotic forge]

That's what it basically boils down to. I will admit it does look bad from an outsider but when you think about it, all that happened was a mod donated through one of their alt accounts. It's perfectly fine and acceptable.

[split copper]

giving arms to xenos scum?

[hasty grail]

i got some dwarven gin if that helps

[hasty grail]

because they wanted to give back to the other mods

its that stupid

[exotic forge]

Yes. Let's not act like Khronos was going to profit 100%. Nah they still essentially donated funds to help Thor's stream and help the other mods out.

[hasty grail]

exactly

[split copper]

that's what I'm saying, that's fine and pretty normal and common as I understand it, but even if it was thor doing it on his alts with his money I just don't understand how it qualifies as fraud

[hasty grail]

now, if you will excuse me im going to go spend my hard earned paycheck on some NSFW games and no one can..... well screw you too mastercard and visa

[exotic forge]

I will admit one thing, when you first hear about a mod donating through an alt discovered by leaked messages, it does sound bad at first

[hasty grail]

that is a joke

i want to make that clear

[lapis tartan]

Because the first time they did it, they got grief. It's not even like they were trying to hide it or make a big deal over it... It's like if Cdawg donated to iron mouse's fundraiser under another alt. What harm was that then?

Oh no, more funds to the ferrets?

Oh no, more good things.

[hasty grail]

i think of it like a teacher buying things for the classroom

or adjacent to that idea

[polar trail]

The problem people seem to have is that this would create an illusion by which they believe they are participating in an organic event, but it is actually being propped from the back without this being disclosed. Of course, the hype train is an incentive to participate and it being propped in such a way may upset some people.

[lapis tartan]

I'd get it if Thor was actively trying to get rich, but he out right says he refuses to be a millionaire and donates to charity. Was doing good even before he blew up.

[swift gulch]

More like the TA than the teacher in this case, but ye 😛

[stone nacelle]

drama farmers doing research?

[hasty grail]

close enough, Dendrago

[swift gulch]

[hasty grail]

i did similar things for my co-operating teacher in the spring

[polar trail]

and Kronos´s DM with Thor do feed the appearance of impropriety, which is worth mentioning, despite the messages themselves being a nothingburguer

[exotic forge]

If Thor was trying to get rich. He would've just faked his enthusiasm for SKG and collaborated with other streams

[stone nacelle]

i had to unsub from a guy on yt, i expected better from a profesional

[swift gulch]

I've never gotten the "organic" claims
Like, the mods have donated on their mains before, and did in that stream
It was an entire planned event that everyone knew about well in advance
Nothing about this was "organic" or spur of the moment

[polar trail]

i think people get hung up on him using an alt which i understand

as in, why did he use an alt?

if it was like, face first i dont think they would be upset

[swift gulch]

Because he'd gotten flak for saving a train the year prior, and said so when people asked

[lapis tartan]

It's a hype train, people keep donating to keep it going. It also unlocks emotes and such, yeah? So even if mods and the streamer donate to it, it still benefits the whole.

[polar trail]

yes, but trying to do it sneakily i think is worse

[swift gulch]

🤷

[polar trail]

i mean, if you get flak from doing it and then keep doing it

trying to hide it

that is the reason

[swift gulch]

And now that people know he did it "sneakily", we see exactly why he did

[exotic forge]

It looks worse I will give you that. But it's a perfectly fair and fine thing for a mod to donate on their alt.

[lapis tartan]

Because he got grief when he didn't use an alt.

[jolly sky]

I still don't understand that really. If that were the case, then Khronos/the mods would have donations at the ready to keep it going whenever the timer was running low.

Khronos only gave 3% of the entire bits donation

[polar trail]

of course it is fair for a mod to donate to the streamer i wont say its not

[exotic forge]

I repeat.

It looks worse.

But it's not actually worse.

[swift gulch]

Yeah, I'll be honest
If he'd saved it on his main, people would be going on about a mod saving the train and Thor not being able to manage it with his community

And my basis for this claim is it's exactly what they did for the 2024 train

[polar trail]

Do note that the appearence of it is what matters, i myself dont think is bad at all, i do not care if he gives him his life savings, but you gotta be careful avout how you present the thing

[exotic forge]

It's fair, it's fine and it has some benefits such as keeping your privacy. And nobody has to justify it. You can donate on an alt.

[swift gulch]

(And at the end of the day, they didn't even get the record this year in the first place)

[exotic forge]

Well it was an accident that the message got leaked lol

[jolly sky]

If these people want to get angwy about it, then they'd better be prepared to get angwy at multiple other large streamers too, as that happens and has happened across the platform

It's all a nothing burger so small that the worlds smallest meat eating creature would be disappointed by its size.

[swift gulch]

If you ask me
The reaction now that people know he did it on an alt perfectly justifies him doing it on an alt

[lapis tartan]

I've said it here before, history is forever doomed to be judged in hindsight... To Kronos then it was a way to avoid grief, now after it all plays out in hindsight it just caused more. Now people are acting all high and mighty in hindsight.

[swift gulch]

"But why did he use an alt"
gestures broadly

[jolly sky]

Damn straight, and this is just one mod.

People have gone after completely random donators too

[azure knoll]

Hi im awake are we being civil

[swift gulch]

Ye

[azure knoll]

Seems like it carry on

[split copper]

Yeah we are Shaye

and hi

[swift gulch]

Euf is just doing devil's advocate, I think

[jolly sky]

Yea we're having a good discussion, no need to bring out the chainsaw

[azure knoll]

Always gotta have a devil's advocate

[polar trail]

i gotta practice for when im a lawyer!

[hasty grail]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-derpy-dumb-dumb-dog-derpy-dog-gif-3788913551531924086

[lapis tartan]

Yes, parades are fun, but don't kill the weatherman when he says it's gonna rain.

[azure knoll]

Are you actually becoming a lawyer?

[polar trail]

yes

[jolly sky]

If I really had something to say, you know I'd let you in on it as you seem to be a fan

[swift gulch]

Oh neat

[azure knoll]

That's awesome, good for you

[polar trail]

although im not doing this for that particular reason

[wind hare]

@azure knoll Any word on the chainsword request?

[polar trail]

i do like to engage a bit in some friendly discussion

[wind hare]

Chainsaw

[azure knoll]

Chainsaw en route

Which is good because I found another small downed tree

[wind hare]

Nice

[exotic forge]

Well I appreciate your questions and the way you phrased them which is why I was more motivated on trying to answer them

[split copper]

I just bought one of those little handheld air blower thingies for to clean out the compootor and keyboard with

[wind hare]

Just be careful, I bought a small one and it had WAY more kick then I expected by its size

[jolly sky]

It's for when the Mushrooms fight back

https://tenor.com/view/one-shot-mushroom-mushroom-oneshot-darksouls-gif-19520559

[rose echo]

How'd that happen to begin with?

[covert monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-mr-mushroom-stylerx01-slap-gif-15687782

[lapis tartan]

On a side note, been seeing other people I watch on youtube get Drama Slop'd in hindsight BS. People are fishing for past wrong predictions and just dogpiling. I do NOT like this new trend.

[azure knoll]

Thankfully I am actually chainsaw educated / have used them before as scared as Thor is for my wellbeing

[jolly sky]

Have you got any of those Anti-Chainsaw pants?

[umbral gazelle]

adds flamethrower to shayes chainsaw

[azure knoll]

I ordered a pair

[exotic forge]

Thor was just streaming and he accidentally showed a discord message with one of his mods

[jolly sky]

Thank goodness

[distant rapids]

Heck yeah. Also i saw chainsword earlier and i think we should upgrade

[azure knoll]

First we start with tree maintenance then we move to chainsaw wood carving

[split copper]

those are spensive, but much preferable to replace those than try and repair your femoral

[rose echo]

What is being chainsawed?

[umbral gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/suisei-hololive-chainsaw-anime-gif-22759516

[azure knoll]

500$ vs 100,000 medical bill

[rose echo]

Like just accidentally got discord in screen capture with dms on?

[split copper]

Oh right, 'murica

that too, then 🤣

[azure knoll]

I have small downed trees I gotta deal with

[exotic forge]

Yeah I think so. I might've been in a tabbed window

[rose echo]

I see

[azure knoll]

I wanted to just hire someone but everyone I called flaked

Annoying

[jolly sky]

For anyone not in the know, the "Anti-Chainsaw pants" are filled with a fibrous material that gums up the Chain so it can't spin anymore

[golden latch]

Know any local lumberjacks they love free lumber

[azure knoll]

Yep

[dusky grove]

oh btw, shaye, amyth had a question in ferret chat

[azure knoll]

I offered to let them have it for firewood etc whatever they want since I don't need it but idk people don't want to commit even though it's not that bad they're just in an inconvenient spot

[azure knoll]

I'm omw

[dusky grove]

they said not to ping... and I am technically... technically... obeying

technically

[golden latch]

I mean can it be moved easily with a winch?

[split copper]

hnnng my limited edition hardback book shipped a week ago and it's still in the states

[jolly sky]

A WENCH lmao

That image is particularly funny

[golden latch]

🙃

[split copper]

sounds like a bit from swordscomic

[distant rapids]

Wver since i learned you can turn logs into a mushroom farm i just. Shaye have you considered keeping the wood and make a mushroom farm?

[azure knoll]

Nope unfortunately not, that would be too easy

[jolly sky]

"Just gonna hire a local wench to lift all this wood"

[azure knoll]

They're neighboring property trees that fell on my electric fence which I think -technically- means it should be the neighbors problem but he's weird

[golden latch]

I wish i was there to help cause i know my grandfather in the area would love the wood (firewood and wood working)

[lapis tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/home-improvement-fence-neighbor-gif-13493064

[winged knoll]

Civilization is overrated, return to monke

[lapis tartan]

No, Kobold.

[golden latch]

Just push the tree onto their side

[winged knoll]

Kobo sux balls, gobo ze best

[azure knoll]

Unironically if your grandfather is ever in desperate need of firewood hit me up, I have a wood shed packed full but don't use the fireplace since I had a brand new heater installed

I've just been giving it away to my friends who use a wood stove for primary heat

[lapis tartan]

Lies, Gobo sux the eggs, Kobos are best.

[azure knoll]

Or people on Facebook

Who need it

[winged knoll]

Agree to disagree then

[lapis tartan]

R/ Tree law drama still gives me a chuckle now an again.

[azure knoll]

There's a lot of elderly folks in the area who only use wood stoves / fireplaces that we've delivered bundles to

[golden latch]

maybe next time im up there ill help him and the old man on his hill stock up.

[azure knoll]

Yeah dude gotta support the seniors in our community

[winter sierra]

I like the sandwich reactions

[golden latch]

Gotta help the olds cause youll be a olds eventually and need the help

[azure knoll]

I love being involved with the local community it just feels good to give back

[azure knoll]

Exactly this

[lapis tartan]

Everyone could use a sandwich these days.

[winter sierra]

Old people are cool (sometimes)

[golden latch]

It really is himitsu’s signature react

[split copper]

Hmm. Severance or Billions, which show to start? Or season 2 + 3 of squid game

[golden latch]

They have a 3?

[muted robin]

I've heard of charities like this and really wish there were some in my area, bc I have a primal need to chop wood but I don't live in a place/lifestyle where that's possible or necessary

But I want SO BADLY to chop wood

It would fix me

[winter sierra]

Its therapeutic

[azure knoll]

Honestly look on Facebook to find community outreach

[winter sierra]

Very fun

[wind hare]

Khronosis AD's overlay has Thor judging his cat

[muted robin]

Also it would make me ripped if I did enough of it

[azure knoll]

Most local communities have their own Facebook groups and people ask for help all the time

[muted robin]

Working out is boring but doing physical labor w/ an actual purpose is awesome

[indigo wadi]

don't forget beardie sheet tomorrow

[winter sierra]

Would Khronos’ be correct there or Khronos’s

[azure knoll]

Tank youu

[winter sierra]

Im bad at grammar

[azure knoll]

Khronosis sounds like a disease

[muted robin]

One of my fav activities is removing invasive weeds in my area, esp when it's in water areas and they give me a kayak to do it with

[wind hare]

I think without the s, I think it is Khronos'

[indigo wadi]

I think my beardie ate some of the romain

[flat moat]

All the khronies have khronosis

[azure knoll]

This is how I am too I don't like gyms but I love manual labor

[covert monolith]

both are technically correct

[winter sierra]

This is so true until chronic pain obliterates you

[azure knoll]

My muscles are bigger than Thor's jsyk 💪

[muted robin]

(Fighting urge to infodump about a book I read once about the history of exercise)

[azure knoll]

I do it in spite of the chronic pain

[muted robin]

Power move tbh

[winter sierra]

Do you think you could beat him in a boxing match

[azure knoll]

I'm not fast

I bet I could suplex him if I really wanted to

[golden latch]

you frfr

[split copper]

Khronosis of the liver

[muted robin]

I wanna be like in skyrim when you can just split wood ad nauseum lol

[winter sierra]

Im pretty strong but not the healthiest

Because that takes more effort lol

[azure knoll]

I watch this one wood cutting guy on Instagram who does like trick cutting and trials weird axes and he's actually extremely hot but it's just fascinating content

[winter sierra]

I like the guy who carves wood bowls and makes wood ice cream

[azure knoll]

Me watching a buff white guy cut wood for hours: hmmm yes go on

[winter sierra]

He has a good voice

[covert monolith]

is it the same one that made the flail axe

[winter sierra]

Me too lol

[azure knoll]

Nah not cabin land but I do like his content as well

[winter sierra]

The voice very much matters too

[golden latch]

silent close caption videos

[azure knoll]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLtDHV7Stlz/?igsh=MTdoNWlxNHJtYWY5NQ==

bradley.thor

Likes

26915

Instagram

[muted robin]

is this a veiled request for thor to do woodcutting streams

[covert monolith]

oh he is pretty

[split copper]

[quetly] there's another thor?

[swift gulch]

God same

[azure knoll]

He's sooooo pretty

[fluid dome]

https://tenor.com/view/brock-lesnar-german-suplex-daniel-bryan-wwe-survivor-series-gif-13000947

[split copper]

oh right, hulk hogan died

[azure knoll]

Wtf

I hate this week

[distant rapids]

reads up yeah shaye you are the loki to thor's... thor

[split copper]

I mean, he became somebody I did not like much because of reasons I can't go into here, but he was and hopefully will remain very memeable

[azure knoll]

I am uneducated

[golden latch]

Life aint stopping with the gut punches recently

[lapis tartan]

He looks like he got some of that MCU super serum... I need to cut some trees down...

[split copper]

rule of threes

who's next?

[azure knoll]

Me

[lapis flame]

pls no

[distant rapids]

[split copper]

n'aww somebody thinks they're famous /j

[golden latch]

based on similarities we are looking for a marginally controversial figure thats iconic in their field of entertainment

[lapis tartan]

No, you can't escape this crazy train that easily.

[split copper]

I mean, I don't think rule of three has to be that specific, I'd take any celebrity

[golden latch]

I dont think shaye fits that so they should be safe (please be careful with the chainsaw shaye)

[covert monolith]

dont need them final destination-ing

[split copper]

oof yeah maybe leave the chainsaw alone until we hear about another death

[golden latch]

Bro the 101 ways to die show was wild

[lapis tartan]

Darwin Awards, oof.

[covert monolith]

just reminded me of the dumb ways to die song

[distant rapids]

Avoiding those shows is the best thing i have ever done for my mental health

[golden latch]

Oh my bad its been forever its “1000 ways to die”

[split copper]

And each one ends the same way if you try?

[golden latch]

There were spin offs made from that shows premise like the so many dumb ways to die and the 1000 ways to die in the west movie

[split copper]

I haven't thought about Nerf Herder in a HOT minute https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYWkPd16mJE

[vivid maple]

https://x.com/VShojo/status/1948442574722924778 they responded

VShojo (@VShojo)

X · Jul 24, 2025, 5:58 PM

[golden latch]

I always laugh at their name cause it sounds like a kids insult

[covert monolith]

oh wow

[split copper]

welp

[distant rapids]

"Learned later" buddy. Buuuuddy... that's not how that works.

[flat moat]

They admitted they used the charitable funds for their own end

[golden latch]

Yep so what i expected they gambled to much to fast and lost it all

[flat moat]

Hopefully, Mouse gets her cash back

[golden latch]

Knowing a little bit of company liquidation and payment laws she will receive some amount but knowing how much is owed sadly not enough

[flat moat]

I really feel for the affected talents, the company mismanaged it so badly

[azure knoll]

L bozo

True

[split copper]

"We thought we'd be able to replace the misappropriated funds" is a wild statement

[covert monolith]

play stupid games, win stupid prizes

[golden latch]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gambling-gif-3937562841362806777

[fallow fable]

he is so close to winning

[flat moat]

Remember gamblers: The only roll you will win is the one you didn't do

[golden latch]

Well this will either fan the flames or help it die out till litigation so thats a nice thing

[muted robin]

1000 ways to die has given me intrusive thoughts that last to this day lksdfjlksdjlkfds

[split copper]

I went with Severance

[flat moat]

Nice

Billions is good tho

[golden latch]

EveryTime i go fishing i remember one particular one and go “never open your mouth”.

[covert monolith]

final destination makes me flinch at quite a few things, but the one thing I learned was never to put a hot liquid into a cup and then cold liquid to replace it

[muted robin]

YEAH THAT'S ONE OF THEM BRO

i don't have like a diagnosable condition related to intrusive thoughts but i do have them often enough that stuff like that is very and hard to get out of my mind

[golden latch]

I still only talk during fishing with bared teeth cause of it love when media influences your future actions in weird ways

[muted robin]

it's not clinical levels of bad but it is one of those things where i'm like (sees particularly gory and/or creative body horror happen to a person) yep i felt that get downloaded to my intrusive thoughts

new DLC

as a kid i liked to suck on ice cubes for fun and the mold my dad had was one of those big cubes. one time i accidentally swallowed one when it was still too large for me to swallow, it got stuck in my throat, and i thought i was about to end up as a cameo on that show

[golden latch]

Is it more a fear response or a should do it type thing? Cause an intrusive fear is quite normal when it comes to things weve seen cause damage or death.

[muted robin]

luckily i gagged it up on reflex as i was running to the bathroom where my dad was to knock for help

[muted robin]

ahhhh it's more like when i see something associated with the gore/scary thing the memory comes up, or when my mind isn't occupied with anything i randomly am afflicted with violent recollections. or when i'm really stressed for some reason that's when they happen the most often

[golden latch]

The preservation tactic in our brain loves reminding us of possible dangers

[muted robin]

true

i got screened for OCD a while ago and had no issues so that's good, though in all the research i did/have done on intrusive thoughts i have yet to find an account from another person saying that they also get intrusive thoughts when stressed/anxious specifically

mostly i just pull up results that have it the other way around, i.e. people with intrusive thoughts tend to experience anxiety as a result of them

but yeah i also pretty much can't/don't like to watch any sort of horror or action media with realistic gore in it bc it haunts my imagination too badly afterwards, like in a "i want to un-remember this so i can stop thinking about it" kind of way

[golden latch]

Stress causes the preservation part of the brain to work overtime its like how some people when stressed do certain actions to calm themselves or control their environment such as cleaning/organizing. The brain feels it needs to do something it just sounds like yours is a remember possible dangers rather than a secure or control your environment type.

[muted robin]

they were of the hurting others variety tho sadly

but i guess that kind of counts bc it's still danger, just possible dangers to others

like when i was student teaching (was during the mid/end of the pandemic so even more stressful than teaching normally is) i'd have intrusive thoughts about swerving and hitting someone in the other lane in a head on collision or running over a child pretty much daily on my commute

not in the way that you sometimes want to run over a student that's being annoying. i don't get mad at children/teens anyways as a matter of dignity. imagine being a grown ass adult and giving a child the power to upset you

[golden latch]

Ah yeah ive heard of those types, from what they’ve explained it seems a more aggressive form of the “control” environment planning how to protect yourself type thats is rough especially when you arnt that type of minded person. I hope you can find an outlet that helps you vent those frustrations and hopefully forget those thoughts.

[muted robin]

well luckily my life humors are balanced in a way where i'm depressed, not anxious, so i havent' had to deal with them in a while 🫡

and i'm working on fixing my sleep to be at least 7, optimally 8 hours a night, so maybe the depression will lessen too

[golden latch]

i hope you can find a happy way to enjoy life soon

Keep up the good work

[winged knoll]

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1CK9Ajc8TJ/?mibextid=wwXIfr

[vivid maple]

https://x.com/CultureCrave/status/1948408249499210040 you gotta be shitting me

Culture Crave 🍿 (@CultureCrave)

Hulk Hogan has passed away at the age of 71

(via @TMZ)

X · Jul 24, 2025, 3:41 PM

[polar trail]

Rest in peace

[vivid maple]

From a heart attack

[indigo wadi]

wait, i got it!

They're saying Hulk Hogan died. Hulk Hogan was his stage name. They arne't addressing him by his actual name. Therefore, Terry Bollea is alive

[vivid maple]

No

It's the actual person behind hogan

[indigo wadi]

I'm aware

[split copper]

I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to even utter the name of this person due to server rules, but the person who met with the pope right before his death also was talking to Hulk recently

He's struck again

[winged knoll]

I think saying Trump's name is fine as long as the topic doesn't devolve into politic talk

[split copper]

Not that person but close.

[winged knoll]

oh lol

now i'm curious who would that be

[split copper]

JD

[indigo wadi]

was a couch involved (alledgely)?

[split copper]

This is me not answering due to server rules

[golden latch]

I sure do like hotdogs and beans

[split copper]

the 70s called

they want their cuisine back

[golden latch]

Oh would you rather have a refreshing drink?

[gray fable]

!hotdog

[dapper raven]

Watch at your own peril! https://clips.twitch.tv/VenomousFineOctopusSeemsGood

[gray fable]

wait wrong one

!banana

[golden latch]

!peeled

[dapper raven]

Always peel your hotdogs. NODDERS https://clips.twitch.tv/EntertainingCoweringOwlTwitchRPG

[gray fable]

thank you

[golden latch]

😁 np i know my hotdog lore

[jolly sky]

!face

[dapper raven]

Welcome to the future. https://clips.twitch.tv/ImpossibleElegantTurnipPoooound-nb8l8_YYABXIn-5O

[golden latch]

The laugh sells it the most i wish gifs could have sound

[winged knoll]

Thank i hate this

[red halo]

I hate this

[high ember]

how the heck

[jolly sky]

Filters babyyyy

Just like the ones all over social media

[golden latch]

Self hosted if i remember

Took a few tb of data storage to accomplish

[blissful imp]

Vshojo finally made a statement. https://twitter.com/VShojo/status/1948442574722924778

VShojo (@VShojo)

X · Jul 24, 2025, 5:58 PM

[split tulip]

I was honestly surprised they didn't go with the "no, it is they who are wrong" and insteaed just straight up admitted to mismanaging the company

[terse pelican]

At this point, Trying to shift the blame would just make it worse

[tribal canyon]

#streamchat message called it

#streamchat message

[hazy storm]

especially with so much evidence and testimony

[terse pelican]

Yup.

[indigo wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/meter-bullshit-maxed-detected-lies-gif-16672300

[muted robin]

i know this is supposed to be cursed but as someone who loves pickles i'm intrigued

i'm not normally a hotdog person but. hm

[distant rapids]

Concept: hotdog in a bug, but ita a pickle instead of the hotdog and there's alices of hotdog on the side

[golden latch]

Pickle gherkins in a sleeve of hotdog in a sleeve of bread pastry to make pickle in the pig in a blanket

[nocturne forge]

I have successfully fixxed the shitty twitch app on android. By installing a version from early 2023

[golden latch]

Nice my iphone one is from around the same era (never updated) works great

[outer cobalt]

Its as close to fraud as it can be

[nocturne forge]

My iphone Se 2016 has a good version too

[exotic forge]

Yeah I'm honestly surprised they said that

"I messed up"

[opal bronze]

hype

[lyric venture]

Im surprised only in that they admitted to specifics, including the charity. Either tells me that the contract for the original thing was not specific enough to allow to sue for that, or there is literally nothing to recover or the owner making the statement is really stupid (which I have to assume they passed tha through a lawyer before making that statement)

[split tulip]

close to, but I don't think it will cross the line (legally speaking) unless you can prove there was intent to defraud. not delivering on what you promised due to being incompetent is not. several kickstarter projcets had lawsuits against them after they failed to deliver, but if you can't prove they pocketed the money and at least attempted to do what was promised, they don't go anywhere

[exotic forge]

My guess is there's nothing to recover. Any lawsuit won't actually get any significant money back

[lyric venture]

Thats my guess as well, which sucks for everyone that was due a lot of money cause they are just sol.

[split tulip]

a lawsuit would at least scrutinize the financials, to see if there actually was something illegal going on

[lyric venture]

Yeah not suggesting that someone doesn't pursue something, just suspect its not going to yield any real money (which will make lawyers potentially less willing to pursue without a lot of up front money).

The big advantage might be that if Vshojo "owned" any assets (personas/specific vtuber models) that people would want, THAT might be much easier to get now.

[opal bronze]

3 dollars is crazy i love that

already got

[split tulip]

afaik they don't really own anything. talents did

maybe some streaming tech

fugi did used to work for them

[lyric venture]

Yeah I dont know the specifics. If they dont own any assets like that then yeah it likely will be a total loss.

[opal bronze]

posted here because sounds like a thor game

[winged knoll]

Can the lawsuit affect other company that Gunrun is owning tho, like the backpack company

ah nvm

[sleek seal]

are VShojo discussions allowed?

[terse pelican]

I think to a certain extent?

[golden mirage]

as long as its civil

[sleek seal]

cool

first: https://x.com/VShojo/status/1948442574722924778
and then https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/1m89iuc/silvervales_experience_in_vshojo_is_just_so_sad/

VShojo (@VShojo)

X · Jul 24, 2025, 5:58 PM

[hasty grail]

i think the 2nd one needs to be posted in one of Zime's chats if you want to do the honors

i posted the first one earlier and it was being discussed

[sleek seal]

someone posted a screenshot in general, right after your the Twitter link

[hasty grail]

ah

[sleek seal]

would've thunk that huge power imbalance leads to abusive business relationships?

[golden mirage]

I feel bad for all these vtubers that had bad experiences within Vshojo. Nobody deserves to go through that kind of gaslighting and mind f^&*ery.

[jolly sky]

Vshoujo: "Ironmouse, you wont have a career if you leave"

Ironmouse: "My career? You'd better worry about your company if I leave"

[earnest cove]

I hate how much of these matched my first job in real life

[indigo wadi]

imagine threatening Ironmouse like that

[earnest cove]

that emotional blackmailing worked on the rest of the girls so of course this worm brained ceo thought he could do it to her

[indigo wadi]

But like, you have to be living under a rock to not realize how big ironmouse is

[golden mirage]

In that kind of situation, its not whether Vshojo realized it but if Ironmouse realized it. If you're broken down and conditioned to believe you won't be successful without Vshojo then you may not see your own power in the situation.

[blissful imp]

Classic Noita experience

[terse pelican]

Dex does some great content

Watched his Vampire Survivors Stuff aswell as when he played Megabonk

[blissful imp]

Megabonk?

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-mega-bonk-bonk-dog-bonkers-bonk-anime-gif-24565990

[earnest cove]

hey look the nonapology dropped

[sleek seal]

@earnest cove ahem

[blissful imp]

a bit late. #streamchat message
#streamchat message

[earnest cove]

oh, i missed that and saw only the reddit embed sorry

i'll go trim it

[terse pelican]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3405340/Megabonk/

Steam

Megabonk

HOW LONG CAN YOU SURVIVE?…

Release Date

Coming soon

▶ Play video

[sleek seal]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

[earnest cove]

the reddit embed pushed it a bit far upwards

[fervent wedge]

Brother. What?

[brisk sparrow]

another to the counter

[fervent wedge]

Homie just… admitted to Taking the 500 Grand basically and ALSO somehow burned out of 11Million USD with the most profitable VTuber Company… Ever.

[brisk sparrow]

its been sent more times than i can count now

[blissful imp]

So i just tried to play the demo and the game keeps defaulting to my Wheel and pedals. i legit can't play the demo normally.

Same thing exists in OTXO. i can't play the game because of my wheel and pedals.

[fervent wedge]

Oh my bad I didn’t even see it till now

[blissful imp]

#streamchat message

[gray fable]

How many times has this one Twitter post been shared on the server?

[brisk sparrow]

yes times

[hasty grail]

someone should post it in a few hours to make sure everyone is aware

[opaque raven]

The IR is still empty

[worthy ivy]

how many times should someone have run this past a law-surgeon before they posted it on twitter? 😆

[distant rapids]

Tbf, we have a grand rotation of peeps in different time zones so poating it occasionally aint bad. And 'm an adult, I don't have to look at every message if i don't want to

[worthy ivy]

I'm here a fair bit in-and-out over the day as I'm unemployed self-employed and I quite like seeing the things come round again - I gets to see lots of different takes on stuff 🙂

[lapis flame]

i mean this is quite a good post

doesnt deflect blame and instead says its his fault. Somewhat explains what happened. Not quite sure that explanation will survive later revisions.

[distant rapids]

I think it's poppycock because of another vtuber's claims that they were manipulated into silence, which implies they knew they didnt have funds for a while, invalidating his claims in this post. HOWEVER, we shall see

[worthy ivy]

it's the saying it's his fault part I suspect he might have wanted to run past his lawyers

[lapis flame]

probably, yes

[worthy ivy]

not a law surgeon, but that seems unwise given the potential liabilities

[lapis flame]

i also suspect the message should not have included anything that tries to explain what happened.

but yknow, not a lawyer and all

[worthy ivy]

I know UK contract law pretty well from 12 years in insurance, but beyond that I'm a legal caveman

[lapis flame]

then im a legal caveman in all aspects

[worthy ivy]

ugg

[lapis flame]

Ook!

[worthy ivy]

*scratches behind
"uhhrg"

[opaque raven]

The thing is, and this is the same for any international companies
You can say whatever you want on social media, you can undermine or explode any situations, the consequences are social-economic at best
But there is one place you can't lie, the IR, you need to be 150% transparent there

In VShojo's case the profile is on Athos Capital, GBV and GFR
Their IRs are empty on this case at the moment

IR = Investor Relations
GBV = Green Bay Venture
GFR = Green Funds Return

[brittle brook]

https://tenor.com/view/caveman-thats-the-way-i-think-im-a-cave-man-gif-12848646

[torn panther]

Shower thought

The agreeable opinion seems to always be accepted as true. So many people are proud of these opinions they hold on the faith of popular opinion

[ivory schooner]

Shower thought

This water is too hot, I should turn it down a little bit

[hasty grail]

shower thought: i need more shampoo

[torn panther]

Throughout history, especially in intellectual and spiritual circles, individuals with highly animated or passionate delivery were often mistaken for being especially insightful or enlightened.

philosopher Eric Hoffer noted in The True Believer, mass movements often elevate those who speak with conviction, regardless of content quality.

[fervent wedge]

Shower thought: Thought Shower.

[worthy ivy]

shower thought: I need to replace that sealant

[hasty grail]

shower thought: i need to get this roof repaired ASAP

[dusky grove]

shower's thoughts: man this human knows how to turn me on

i'm sorry

[indigo wadi]

nah, it doesn't explain anything of what happened. Just corporate nonsense typed into what appears to be an answer

Shower thought: I think I just sharted

[jolly sky]

I imagine he can't say too much, assuming legal action is still happening on the side of Ironmouse

[river pivot]

I mean the horror of what has happened with vshojo and the impact on the talents is genuinely awful but hopefully the scent of the company burning down pulls away the attention of all the everything is PirateSoftware's fault trolls

[idle hill]

it won't, least I don't think so

[quartz sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-intensifies-gif-14242619

[river pivot]

Yeah unfortunately they'll somehow invent a reason for it to be his fault too because they are deeply insane and obsessed

[warm trench]

Shower thought: I'm warm enough, I'm wet enough.. I'm slippery enoughhhwhooops, falling and I don't have life alert.

[worthy ivy]

something something government connections something something got a chip put in vshojo dude's brain to make him bad at running a business 😆

[earnest cove]

not sure if anyone follows geega here. she had experience worikng in business before. And the people running the business apparently have no sense of money
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2rGJGphhv8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZTNmlcrk_k

[forest glacier]

Please do not type into chat, “I’m wet enough..”

[brittle brook]

what about saying "I'm comprehensively moist"

[winter sierra]

Im sopping

Dripping even

[blissful imp]

Even more Vshojo stuff https://twitter.com/Veibae/status/1948509619543822703?mx=1

vei ➕ gsupps out now🩸 (@Veibae)

and so our NDAs are now void

why i left VSHOJO -

back in 2023, vshojo tried to bully me into one of the most predatory contracts that i have ever seen. when i tried to ask more about it, their COO got extremely hostile with me and refused to answer any of my questions and so i

X · Jul 24, 2025, 10:24 PM

[muted robin]

i'm not even remotely aware about vtubing but jfc

[earnest cove]

whoops i just realised i left behind a google docs that shouldn't be there (it leads to my writing). i deleted the link but i gotta know if anyone here is attempting to access it. I see an 'annoynomous badger'

[jolly sky]

Good lord

[earnest cove]

lliterally 4 chan campaigning

their COO has begun to push a narrative on 4chan (yes im serious lmfao) and other social media that i am leaving because i plan to join OTK and that both me and silvervale are troublemakers, so they were "letting" us go.

[wispy plover]

Jeeeeeez

[earnest cove]

https://twitter.com/Parrot4chan/status/1948514594722644060

parrot4chan (@Parrot4chan)

@Veibae 4chan mentioned, my caffeine intake gets increased

X · Jul 24, 2025, 10:44 PM

a certain columbian parrot now has to dig a new mine

[wicked schooner]

Yup

[haughty pelican]

No no, they will connect the 2

[wind hare]

Just wait, somehow this happened because of Thor. Thanks Thor!

[worthy ivy]

<insert "thanks thor" meme I made but can't share because I assume it's counts as politics here>

[river pivot]

Of course how could I forget

[wicked schooner]

Conspiracy theorists be like

[wind hare]

Need to change that last image to a hammer

[earnest cove]

i don't doubt the conspiracies man, because we already have people who refuse to donate to the immuno charity because Thor donated once into it

[wind hare]

Don't believe for a second that they were going to donate in the first place. It's just them making noise

[haughty pelican]

Thor is a god in a pantheon, Egypt has a pantheon = Vshojo collapse was due to aliens

[wind hare]

Brilliant

[blissful imp]

Conspiracy theorists are just Bronies?

[earnest cove]

yeah. It really reeks of... something. Imagine being proud of "I refuse to help the sick and dying because Thor helped them. I'm a moral person!"

I'm not sure what to even call that 'something'

[jolly sky]

I mean, it's right in the name obviously.

The Eye of Thorus

[distant rapids]

A friendly reminder: NDA'S are not valid if the company is commiting crimes. And not paying your employees is a crime

-# i am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice

[river pivot]

Sociopathy

[wind hare]

Maybe in the US, no idea of Eastern countries. This is the Japanese branch right?

[earnest cove]

usa not getting paid either

everyone wasn't getting paid

[wind hare]

But where is the home country?

[earnest cove]

Usa California

[river pivot]

US branch is the main but no one got paid and the US branch was the one that embezzled the charity funds

[wind hare]

Oh, I thought it was out of South Korea or Vietnam

[wicked schooner]

I honestly dont know whats real anymore. I was rooting for vshojo because of michi and kuro's stories. Hearing some of the members not getting paid since september leads me to believe theyre in a much more worse situation now

[haughty pelican]

Pfft if they didn’t pay tax the company heads will go to jail

[jolly sky]

Ooooooh embezzling is a fun term

[earnest cove]

with that type of crime I initially thought so too

[haughty pelican]

No even the joker takes on the irs

[earnest cove]

If the IRS can get gunrun to stop running, i'll support that

[wind hare]

Holy crap the headquarters is in San Francisco, they are totally going to get thrown into court.

[jolly sky]

I tried making something shoddy in Paint, but obviously is very limited

[river pivot]

If you haven't been on twitch yet they already removed his emote a bit ago

[jolly sky]

Something like replacing one of Thors eyes with the Eye of Horus

[idle hill]

oh they're so screwed

[worthy ivy]

just use the gimp

#outofcontextquotes

[earnest cove]

as in from the whole website?

[haughty pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/yu-gi-oh-cards-yugi-anime-money-gif-12661785

[jolly sky]

Embezzling in San Francisco is San Franrisky

[haughty pelican]

Thor is Pegasus

[river pivot]

Yeah it doesn't work I was in a stream when it happened and GunRun doesn't turn into the face anymore

[haughty pelican]

Oooooh Kronos boy

[earnest cove]

truly deserved

[river pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/america-yugioh-ygotas-yugioh-abridged-gif-5600804

This is obviously Thor

[earnest cove]

Fishman wins by doing nothing

[wind hare]

I just had the best mental image that Thor just starts dressing up as Anime villains and just going full "I am whats wrong with everything! Fear Me!"

I want to see him do a Lord Freezer

[haughty pelican]

I think the talents will avoid company’s

I feel bad for kson 2nd time a company has thrown her under the bus

[worthy ivy]

Thor is Frieza's final form confirmed?

[haughty pelican]

Unless he is cooler

[river pivot]

Get him some silver hairspray paint and a ton of regular hairspray and he can just do Sephiroth off the rip

[worthy ivy]

one moment

[haughty pelican]

He doesn’t have enough mommy issues for that

[river pivot]

I have never felt a fear like I have reading this

[wind hare]

If I had any artistic still I could have done better

[wind hare]

oooo good

Do you use photoshop? I've always wanted to try it

[worthy ivy]

I use the gimp but I'm not very good at hair yet

[river pivot]

Bless you I needed that laugh today

If Khronos ever does Final Fantasy on stream that has to be the Thorzos for ads

[wind hare]

GIMP is free right? Maybe I will download it and actually try it out instead of just thinking about it

I've always loved r/HQG and their work. Never learned how to do it

[worthy ivy]

holy look at the time batman! must dash
enjoy mortal wombat

[earnest cove]

Uh, i'm noticing unknown entities in my google docs trying to read my copy pasted reference discord convo.

I locked it down so far

set it to restrictred. I just hope nothing got out of hand...

It's a bit scary because i don't know their intent

[wind hare]

Are your docs normally open?

[jolly sky]

How did they even get access in the first place?

[wind hare]

Also, its law that you have to answer this. Why are you copying discord conversations? Are you a cop?

[brittle brook]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwLccJOMTX0

[earnest cove]

yeah, to view only. because google docs would kick my husband out of his account pretty often.

so i thought it was from him first but then i realised he should be asleep

[earnest cove]

I think it might be from here. I posted a link to @hazy storm before i went to bed and I forgot to remove it. Very bad move in hindsight

[hazy storm]

hey @earnest cove yeah that was probably it

[hasty grail]

delete the doc and recreate it

[earnest cove]

i already removed the link and set it to restricted

[hasty grail]

easy solution

[brittle brook]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-aotc-race-you-liquor-store-obi-wan-gif-19902920

[hazy storm]

i probably should've caught that too

[earnest cove]

restricted not enough?

[hazy storm]

thor is a cybersecurity guy and he probably would've had somethign to say about that

[hasty grail]

if you want to be very safe

delete the doc entirely and recreate it

look, im no expert, but i do have a bottle of dwarven vodka which has to count in this case

[hazy storm]

i can still view the doc @earnest cove but i can't make changes to it (i'm not asking to, im just telling you)

[earnest cove]

was it you tho?

[hazy storm]

i have it open on a tab but i haven't done anything to it yet

[earnest cove]

that means i really gotta delete the doc. restricted doesn't help

[earnest cove]

wait, so it was you being the anon floating in there?

[opaque raven]

Question. Without drama, what's the story about Thor and Mr Robot (the series I guess, idk)?

[hazy storm]

i do see this thouh

[earnest cove]

refresh it

[earnest cove]

okay this means it's working maybe i don't need to delete. losing edit history = pain for editing

[distant rapids]

As admin, you might be able to see who has accessed and edited in the logs

[earnest cove]

There was no edits. just afraid of someone copying info secretly

[distant rapids]

Oh yeah, stinky. That's fair.

[earnest cove]

checking my history and there were no unknown edits or suggestions for edits (which is good)

if any information did get copied, well i can't get it back. the most i can do is lock it up for the future

[winged knoll]

Something about Thor claimed that his solution is stolen by the show maker. Then someone pointed out that some other team that joined defcon might have public their solution elsewhere / showmaker goes directly to defcon organizer themselves for advice

[earnest cove]

I just need to know if it was you who was hovering in Tab 1 for the past hour, when i first noticed the problem

[hazy storm]

im not sure how google works

[river cargo]

Thor apologised however, and stated he mispoke

[hazy storm]

when the tab is open butnot active

[earnest cove]

it shows the user there, but the icon is faded.

[hazy storm]

ok then that was likely me

[earnest cove]

thank goodness it's not a randommmmmmmmmmm

[hazy storm]

sorry to put you through so much stress 😦

[earnest cove]

no no no it's not your fault

i made a very unwise decision. i'm just glad that it wasn't a stranger

[winged knoll]

do you know if it's on twitter or stream clip

[idle hill]

both
he stated on twitter that he had a talk with two people (I forget, Josh Strife Hayes and someone else?)
and multiple times on stream (though clipped, I'm not sure)

[rose echo]

@earnest cove I mean, you did post it publicly and even I opened it initially, and it takes a second to copy or dl it. So can't unspill milk there. But fwiw I doubt there's any use for copying something that only works within context of the rest of your works, apart from maybe AI scraping, which google prolly does anyway

That's to say, no point stressing about it now, just be more careful with it going forward.

[earnest cove]

I'm in fact more ok with ai scraping as the final result will inevitably get scraped anyway once i publish the chapter online

I'm gonna be more careful moving forward

[carmine sierra]

Out of curiosity, what is the doc about?

[earnest cove]

It's my fanfiction

[carmine sierra]

Ah, gotcha

[winged knoll]

Thor steamy battle

[wind hare]

Thor Fanfic huh?

[earnest cove]

No

[opaque raven]

Fanfic about what?

[earnest cove]

Hang on let me grab the work itself

[opaque raven]

Share share
I wanna read while having dinner

[wind hare]

Rumor says its about Thor and a banana

[earnest cove]

https://archiveofourown.org/users/Sophtopus/pseuds/Sophtopus

this is my ao3

https://archiveofourown.org/works/5296460/chapters/12226634

and that doc contained the next chapter of this

[opaque raven]

Oh frick, I know NOTHING about undertale

[idle hill]

undertake

[earnest cove]

I'm not sure how well known I am in the undertale fanfiction circle, but apparently known enough for my work to be recommended sometimes

[wind hare]

Thats really cool

[rose echo]

Soph, how did it go with your friend?

I forgot to ask

[earnest cove]

she wants to game dev roblox stuff

[torn panther]

Mr robot is so dope

[earnest cove]

to summarize why she loves roblox, it's the ability to make a game in a game

[torn panther]

I saw someone bring him up

Just gotta say

[rose echo]

I hope that's a good thing...?

at least partially

[earnest cove]

At least putting her dev skills to use instead of letting it rot so maybe some win....?

[rose echo]

aye, not a complete loss

[wind hare]

Roblox games can make money, so its not a bad idea

[opaque raven]

I recently learned about the secret drama world of Wikipedia Edit Logs
My question is, is there secret drama on the fanfic universe as well?

[rose echo]

As for writing, I wish I could help, but I'm not the best person for it, despite my experience with related things

[earnest cove]

although there are works with more words than mine , but I guess it's still floats up far enough for people to find it. Current total is Words:1,063,290

[wind hare]

If people are involved, there will be drama

[earnest cove]

100000000% will have at least one drama somewhere

[rose echo]

In large enough groups*

[earnest cove]

drama for fanfiction is even worse because people get invested

Such as the whole "Do not interact if you ship characters"

[wind hare]

I only glanced at the Hazbin Hotel OC Reddit thinking that people would support each other. Nope.

[earnest cove]

There's the shipping sphere, and the non shipping sphere. I'm in non shipping. The shipping part is where most of the fighting happen

[rose echo]

You can have groups, small or medium that can do well, without devolving things into drama, but the more people, the higher the chance of drama occurring, even if it's just cuz of 1 person.

[frosty socket]

most of us do follow etiquette, after all

[winged knoll]

@distant rapids the wiki page is pretty self-clean now actually, will probably add the stuffs about the ferret rescue in there

[earnest cove]

It happened far far away from me, but I've heard some nasty things from some creators abusing their fans and fans.

all it takes is just one person

[wind hare]

minus the drama, he has a wiki page now. Thats kinda cool

[frosty socket]

like the full Harry Potter fansubreddit, if you ship Harmony, you get shouted down and things deleted

[rose echo]

This makes me think.. now that the community has changed a lot to a more mature audience, over the past month or so, I should prolly talk about my stuff again and see if anyone might be potentially interested

[earnest cove]

in 2025???

[opaque raven]

Give me an example of a ship that would generate immediate heat among writers

[earnest cove]

Sans X Toriel

[rose echo]

Anyone here who's interested in roleplay?

[opaque raven]

Idk who they are but it looks cute

[wind hare]

Did they ever reveal if Sans was some kind of eldritch being outside of the game?

[hasty grail]

only with dice

[earnest cove]

the big momma in purple is a divorced woman. A lot of people want her to go back to her ex husband Asgore

[opaque raven]

Ooooohhh

[earnest cove]

And they REFUSE to accept that blue skeleton man (Sans) from ever getting near her

So that OFFICIAL MOMENT in Deltarune made people ragequit Deltarune

[opaque raven]

And is the small guy kinda toxic/evil?

[earnest cove]

I'm not kidding. It's that bad.

Uhhhhhh

If you decide to be a murderhobo in Undertale, where he first debuted, he's the secret final boss.

[opaque raven]

Oh

[earnest cove]

So i'd say the opposite of evil. But he's very troll.

[wind hare]

He's not evil, but he's something special that its hinted at

[opaque raven]

Fun chill guy unless you murder his entire village

[wind hare]

Someone outside of the game

[earnest cove]

Either way, Sans X Toriel will cause a rage of a thousand suns so much so that people quit the actual game

[opaque raven]

Oh...I wasn't aware undertale was like that

[wind hare]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYdDUXyFocY

[earnest cove]

Noooo not ness

[frosty socket]

they're genuinely threatened by a ship that's a genuinely healthy relationship... Harry could've gotten with hermione, there'd be no "Husband of hermione cheating at Driving Exam by charming examiner", and no "Harry, who hates his fame, marrying his number one fangirl"

[opaque raven]

Earthbound???

[earnest cove]

please not ness because that's a copyright nightmare

[rose echo]

I didn't mean playing D&D, I mean roleplaying in a more discrete sense.

[earnest cove]

that's just a theory. It's impossible for it to be the real hint

[wind hare]

A GAME THEORY!

[earnest cove]

Because otherwise that's a huge copyright fight with Square Enix and nobody wants that

[hasty grail]

you asked a simple question and i simply answered

[opaque raven]

How spoilers sensitive is undertale?

[frosty socket]

I do, on occasion looks at my tag

[earnest cove]

There are 11 endings. Highly recommended to go blind.

I think 11 endings

[rose echo]

Aye, nothing wrong with that, was just elaborating, given the question

[opaque raven]

But you just told me the blue guy is the final boss

[earnest cove]

because you asked if he's evil

Either way, uh, without explaining too much your character has the choice to be violent or friendly

[opaque raven]

You ruined it for me!!!
I'm gonna sue you
I'm gonna install Windows Vista on your pc

[frosty socket]

Sans is THE biggest Troll

[earnest cove]

LOL

[wind hare]

I mean the video I linked gives a good idea about what the games about

[hasty grail]

i knew the implied question

[wind hare]

just stop when he says spoiler

[rose echo]

Aye, I thought I'd elaborate for anyone who might need it, not specifically for you

[hasty grail]

this is also the dude who goes on while ideas that are often not supported in any way

[rose echo]

What kind of roleplay?

[hasty grail]

see his hollow knight vid

and one of the reasons why i dont like him

[earnest cove]

Either way @opaque raven highly recommended game. Undertale is very fun. If you just want fun and don't want to experiment, you can stick to the 'main route' so to speak of the game

[opaque raven]

I never played many games, let alone indies, so I might try undertale one day

[forest glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-screech-shouting-yelling-shout-gif-10725688960042638301

[frosty socket]

usually in wow, but i can do other settings, as long as i have an idea of what's going on

or at least WoW setting

[opaque raven]

I recently played Inscryption and was one hell of a trip

[wind hare]

Love that game

Pony Island 2 should be coming out one day

[frosty socket]

and always SFW, with violence beign athing, but NO Sex... that gets weird quick

[wind hare]

you should look at all the games

[opaque raven]

It's soooo good
I played on switch, on bed, before sleep, it was a whole mood

Also, talking to some friends I realized that the switch version (maybe all consoles) have way more lore thn the normal pc version

[rose echo]

I've several different projects, pretty much all of which for character-driven roleplay that explores fantasy worlds in full, without shying away from anything whatsoever, in an (internally) realistic manner.
Some are in the world of FFXIV. Some are worlds of my own. Some are half-half, like my VtM project. etc.

[opaque raven]

Or at least it's more exposed

[earnest cove]

i used to roleplay back in the 2010s

[wind hare]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2017940/Pony_Island_2_Panda_Circus/

Steam

Pony Island 2: Panda Circus

From the creator of Inscryption...

Pony Island 2: Panda Circus is a phantasmagorical voyage through time, myth, divinity, and video games. You were a young nomad who would have gone on to conquer the world… until an early death doomed you to The Earth Prison. Now you must escape the lordly deities of the underworld with your soul, and yo…

Release Date

To be announced

▶ Play video

[frosty socket]

i just avoid Sex in RP due to... past issues, that is all

[earnest cove]

but i have retired

i find that writing normally works better for me

[opaque raven]

Oooohhh wait, I have the sheets of 2 Undertale ost! Let me find them

[earnest cove]

now you have context of those music

[opaque raven]

A student asked me some time ago to learn those 2

[earnest cove]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/391540/Undertale/

Steam

Undertale

Welcome to UNDERTALE. In this RPG, you control a human who falls underground into the world of monsters. Now you must find your way out... or stay trapped forever.

*((Healthy Dog's Warning: Game contains imagery that may be harmful to players with photosensitive epilepsy or similar condition.))*features:

• Killing is unnecessary: negoti…

Price

$9.99

Recommendations

256808

Metacritic

92

▶ Play video

[rose echo]

That's completely understandable. Nothing wrong with that, necessarily. At least if it's out of preference, and not inability. I do understand the concerns.

[earnest cove]

oh i should link you the game for you to wishlist

Killing is unnecessary: negotiate out of danger using the unique battle system.

[opaque raven]

Megalovania and Bonetrousle

[frosty socket]

oh, definitely not out of inability, lol

[earnest cove]

Ohohohohoho

your students gave you Sans' and Papyrus' theme

[rose echo]

Interesting. It's the opposite for me. I can write quite well, but roleplay's much better for me, due to the inherent cooperation with other people, as well as inclusion of other media formats, rather than being stuck to primarily text and just about nothing else, even if you wanted to.

[earnest cove]

they're brothers

Megalovania for Sans. Bonetrousle for Papyrus

[rose echo]

A student? Are you a teacher of some kind?

[opaque raven]

Papyrus like the font?

Oh, and comic Sans!

This is brilliant

[earnest cove]

The people factor is what really turned me off and I limit it to very few people in the end. After being told in the face that "your novel writing skills are a liability" I basically effed off from roleplaying forever.

[earnest cove]

yep! and they speak in the font they're named after

[rose echo]

Sounds like you've unfortunately happened upon inconsiderate assholes. I'm sorry to hear that.

[opaque raven]

No way!!! Are all chars like this?

Or are those 2 special for some reason

[frosty socket]

hah, i write many paragraphs when doing Text-based RP... have hit even Nitro character limit a few times

[earnest cove]

Thinking. There's technically three, but one of them you'll never see beyond digging into secret game files.

[opaque raven]

Ye, I teach piano and bass on the weekends ☀️

[rose echo]

Oh, that's great.

[earnest cove]

if you enter the undertale scene, you'll see papyrus font, comic sans font, and then windings font

[opaque raven]

Ok, so I suppose it's the type of game that you play 2 or 3 times and need to look on yt for the crazy secrets and deep lore

[earnest cove]

yup

that's part of the fun

and also why the fanfiction scene is really creative

[earnest cove]

shippers, man. I have no words for that harry potter one

[opaque raven]

Are the devs ok with the fanfics?

[earnest cove]

of course

he himself used to make fanworks

[opaque raven]

Ooohh

[earnest cove]

Earthbound and Homestuck

[opaque raven]

Ah

So that's why some might link Ness with Sans I suppose

[earnest cove]

people made fan music, fan animation, and so on so on

[frosty socket]

indeed

damnit, just woke from nap, forgor to turn off the ping

[earnest cove]

in one of the music albums he talked about how the house he built (undertale and any of his works) gradually change over time. Ivy and moss grow, the weather wears the bricks, and so on so on.

in years, the house becomes something he can't recognise anymore even though the foundation is there

Quite a bittersweet feeling. proud that it was so loved, yet sad that he doesn't 'own' it anymore

[earnest cove]

it's ok

Toby Fox (the creator) even acknowledged all the weird aus out there cheekily in one of his fangamer products lol

[rose echo]

@frosty socket would you like to take a quick look at the application form for one of the current projects that we have space for? It's one of the FFXIV ones.

[frosty socket]

i would, but barely have time for the things i do now, lol

[wind hare]

What a blast from the past, I forgot about how people attacked GameTheory for the Undertale video. MattPat goes over it in the beginning of this video. History loves to repeat itself. The internet always has to attack someone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wzxbR5vfjE&list=PLOl4b517qn8jqJ3mqHq550ZhX55WoCOD6

[opaque raven]

How reasonable would it be to find those secrets on your own?

Like Gaster

[rose echo]

I didn't mean with the sole, or even main intent of seeing whether you'd be interested to join right now. Merely to see what impression you'd get, or perhaps if you know someone who might be interested, etc. Also, even if you're interested and don't have the ability right now, these are long-term projects that go on for years, so there's always the possibility of joining, should circumstances change and allow it.

[wind hare]

I would really watch that intro to get a another perspective on internet hate

[earnest cove]

there's a random chance. Collectively, somebody would have triggered the incident, and they'd inform everyone online

Every time someone starts a game, there are some hidden RNG values. Inevitably somebody out there will stumble upon it the first time.

some secrets are static and just need an observent eye

some are RNG

[hasty grail]

was it due to MatPat saying things that really dont work given the acutal lore?

[opaque raven]

What the hell is that story at the beginning??? Daaamn

[wind hare]

I would really watch it yourself, he spells it all out

[hasty grail]

its MatPat, i refuse to watch any of his work

[wind hare]

Why?

[earnest cove]

He goes too wild...

[opaque raven]

Oh, so it's a game that was built with the community trading info on mind I suppose

[earnest cove]

like calling Doctor Light evil

[hasty grail]

the last one i saw was the Hollow Knight vid which had some weird crap that did not work with the lore

[earnest cove]

yep yep

Mattpatt imo tries too hard to stretch at the expense of actual lore

[hasty grail]

^

[wind hare]

He's just making funny videos and throwing stuff at the wall.

[earnest cove]

It's because of him the Megaman scene had cult of people insisting Doctor Light, the protagonist side, is the evil one

and those cult will exist today

[hasty grail]

i would accept that if it fit within the lore as a whole

[wind hare]

Don't blame him for crazy people

[hasty grail]

it being a bit more reasonable

[opaque raven]

Idk much about Matt Patt but I lost any interest on him solely due to the sheer amount of Fnaf stuff that I have zero interest into

[hasty grail]

but its actual off the wall crap

[earnest cove]

they quoted mattpatt............

linked videos to him and so on

[wind hare]

People quote Jesus while doing stupid shit, I don't blame Jesus

[earnest cove]

i'm not sure how to respond to that

[hasty grail]

jesus never insulted a dozen fandoms with lore vids

[wind hare]

If you don't like him, thats fine. But blaming him for making funny videos for others actions is kinda out there

[wind hare]

He didn't "insult" anyone. If you think someone presenting their ideas about a game are insulting, you may be too deep into them.

[hasty grail]

this

thats my reason for not liking him

[wind hare]

ok

[earnest cove]

there's a sense of authority that make people think mat IS the loremaster

[wind hare]

that is the SAME thing people put on Thor.

[hasty grail]

as compared to someone like MyNameIsByf who is one of THE loremasters of Destiny

who knows the lore back to front and can make reasonable theories on new things

[earnest cove]

There's a big difference between 'this is my industry experience' and 'I am going to make a lore theory video because I've done my research' when the research was bad

[hasty grail]

AS A TEACHER, i know X, Y, and Z about students, what motivates them, and what i can expect of them

[rose echo]

Let's be real, no matter the subject, people like to fight over A and B. Red and Blue. This team vs that team. It's tribal mentality often.

[hasty grail]

as someone who skimmed the fandom wiki, i think red is better than blue because reasons G, H, and K

(G was mostly right, even though H was wrong entirely, and K was a crap interpretation)

[winged knoll]

What does G H K stand for

[hasty grail]

vague ideas in this case or pieces of evidence or extraploated ideas from evidence

the implication of someone saying that the sky was blue implies that the sky could be a different color at one point OR the sky was always blue

[wind hare]

You are putting a lot of pressure on someone who makes silly internet videos about theories that are, infact, just that. Something to make a video on and a channel

[earnest cove]

you can like mat for the fun

at the same time I can dislike mat for the trouble crazy people caused me personally by quotingn his video.

[hasty grail]

MattPatt goes with the former and a good loremaster might go with the latter

[wind hare]

He's just taking the scientific method most of the time and applying it to video games.

[earnest cove]

.................. isn't that the problem....?

[wind hare]

No?

Thinking outside the box is a problem?

[earnest cove]

how is math Sans= ness???

[wind hare]

He did a video on if a grapple hook would rip off your arm.

[earnest cove]

and how is math = Father of robotics = evil?

[wind hare]

Maybe understanding that he explains his take, and if you don't like it you are free to disagree. Its just a theory on a game he enjoys

[earnest cove]

I don't see how math proves that the idea of giving robots the ability to comprehend human thoughts and human emotions and also act as actual humans be equated as "the real evil". That's philosophy.

[wind hare]

Look, the world is FULL of horrible things and people with evil/horrible takes on life. This doesn't come close to any of that. These are about video games.

[hasty grail]

at least have the things you say in a video be accurate to lore anyone can look up

otherwise it makes you look like a bad content creator

[wind hare]

He does show his proof, and if you disagree with that its ok. We all see reality through different eyes. We have three religions all worshipping the same god, kinda crazy huh?

[earnest cove]

That's not answering the question

[wind hare]

You can have philisophical theory

[earnest cove]

I know he did math stuff at many points

That subject I brought up is not one of those

[hasty grail]

back up

[wind hare]

Thats how philosophy started, people debating on how the world works

[hasty grail]

we are talking about theory vids of someone who has misinfo in them

AND

often takes ideas in weird ways that do not work well with existing lore

correct?

[earnest cove]

correct and I have problems with that especially when they leak into real life\

[hasty grail]

this is not talking about philosophical ideas within them

[wind hare]

I have no idea why you are trying to say he is putting out misinformation. Other then you disagree with how he viewed what he put in his video

[hasty grail]

nor science related things the content creator has put out

[hasty grail]

misinterpretation

[winged knoll]

But it’s just a theory

[hasty grail]

which results in misinformation

[winged knoll]

A game theory

[hasty grail]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-gif-7302064673369468312

[earnest cove]

lol

[winged knoll]

Leave my balls out of this

[wicked schooner]

Hi chat, whats going on?

[winged knoll]

My balls are at risks

[hasty grail]

general talk of mattpatt and his legacy within game lore talk

[winged knoll]

[wind hare]

Chatting, you know

[hasty grail]

its a break from other drama

[wicked schooner]

Drama with matpat now?

[wind hare]

no

[hasty grail]

old drama

[hasty grail]

this basically

[earnest cove]

How it leaked into my real life was that my husband's friend started going DEEP into "anyone who creates artificial life is evil incarnate" and the mat video was one of it.

[wind hare]

I brought up how what MatPat has been through, with internet levels of hate was close to Thor

[hazy storm]

didnt matpat retire

[wind hare]

The video I linked gives his description of how it effected him

[hasty grail]

yea

[azure knoll]

didnt he have a kid

[hasty grail]

no idea

[wind hare]

He did

[earnest cove]

yeah he's a father now

[wicked schooner]

Matpat retired but gametheorists live on

[wind hare]

And now hes making a Gamer political group in the US

[azure knoll]

thats pretty cool im happy for him

[wind hare]

Ya, I didn't always agree with him but he's doing good stuff

[wind hare]

Atleast hes doing something

[hasty grail]

i would rather him have a very private life

[wind hare]

I would rather people stand up for good things and try to do their best

[hazy storm]

here let's all chill and enjoy huskies and ducktales

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/lhMWnR9maV0

[hasty grail]

see my earlier arguments on why i dont like him

[wind hare]

I am sure if he goes to congress he will bring up his views on the games he's played

[hasty grail]

no

god no

please god no

have someone else be the face for the love of everything holy, unholy, and in the sauce

[wind hare]

Wiki

"On June 10, 2025, MatPat announced the creation of the Creator Economy Caucus in the United States House of Representatives, which he described as "a bipartisan group where creators can work alongside lawmakers to ensure legislation is timely and relevant for the Internet age." According to MatPat, his initiative was supported by around 10 representatives."

[proper phoenix]

no

matpat for president

[hasty grail]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-mods-crush-his-skull-gif-454857235539207420

[proper phoenix]

either matpat or markiplier

[hasty grail]

Markiplier is fine on the otherhand

[wind hare]

I mean most of the people who are in office grew up before the start of the internet, we need people all over the world who know how to turn on a comptuer to make laws about it

[brazen drift]

I dont want anyone who isn't involved in politics in office

[warped venture]

No politics

[proper phoenix]

bro they are old as hell

[warped venture]

Moving on

[wind hare]

yep

[hasty grail]

does MattPatt count as political?

honest question

[wind hare]

This part is

I guess

[warped venture]

This part yes but not Matpatt in general

[hasty grail]

also tying it to everything before his current state

alright

anyways