streamchat

[indigo wadi]

im only interested in blockgame

[winged osprey]

Yea I forgot what he did to get us off of multimc in the first place

But the polymc takeover was nuts

[strange ember]

it was either the account stuff or the curse stuff

He did something real dim

disallowing third-party packaging efforts

apparently

[winged osprey]

Oh wait looked it up now I remember

Peterix forbade third parties from packaging multimc

Which sucks for people wanting to use multimc via a package manager on linux

[toxic rampart]

Prism goated

And discord did the thing where it only updates messages after you send something.

GG.

Regardless.
Prism good. Lol

Prism is a literal godsend if you are a modder or pack maker/tweaker.
Being able to have multiple instances just ready to go in like two clicks for testing purposes is so good.

[strange ember]

Ok... you know THAT makes sense

Twitch not having a "no seriously quit showing me stuff I don't want to see" is totally believable

[strange ember]

Agreed.
I can use the others like ATL, Curse, GD, Technic, etc... but I much prefer just using prism because it does everything, and it does it well.
Only real downside is that the UI's really... well...

[wet coral]

Or be an adult and learn to ignore things causen ot everything can be at your wims.

[strange ember]

It's not pretty. But frankly I don't care. It does the job, I don't need the key-jangling

[strange ember]

As a workaround for twitch having a shit user experience I can understand it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wet coral]

I mean i used to constantly get Asmongold and XQC and such all the time as suggestions. I just ignored and went on my way to what i wanted.

[terse pelican]

When they ask for this, they usually get a 2 week Timeout so that the stream still shows up, supposedly

[strange ember]

That sounds about right for trolling the trolls

[distant rapids]

Okay chat I'm turning in: If you want editing permission for Thor's Wikipedia Compendium, perhaps even only to add your thoughts and reference links you find, just ping me and I'll get to it tomorrow. Have a goodnight chat and don't forget to take showers, you stinky!

[strange ember]

I mean that works for some people, but doesn't for others

[terse pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/forrest-gump-wave-hello-hi-sup-gif-16159238468026206620

[strange ember]

https://tenor.com/view/good-night-good-night-have-a-good-night-gif-14552999400203160808

[ocean agate]

[grizzled pulsar]

https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v2/120232/static/light/3.0

[vagrant sandal]

Wait did I hear lawsuit lol

[silent plank]

what lawsuit wat lemme open the stream rq

[terse pelican]

?

[vagrant sandal]

I may have misheard but someone in chat said 'good luck with the lawsuit' and Thor read it out or maybe I'm just deaf

[terse pelican]

Oh, People are saying Thor is going to get into legal trouble cause the whole ''Fake Hypetrain'' Nothingburger

Claiming Fraud ETC

[vagrant sandal]

It could have been 'relaunch'

[silent plank]

oh that thing

ResidentSleeper

[winged knoll]

lemme edit in peace plz wikipedia

[vagrant sandal]

Dang

[shadow dawn]

I think it was relaunch

[vagrant sandal]

Ye lol

[proud depot]

that one "mmo incident" needs work, feels very one sided

[winged knoll]

That will have to be done later, as i'm not particularly good at wordsmithing

I'll probably make a draft, then get feedback from the council of goblins (no kobo allowed)

[proud depot]

going into the version history is interesting

[dusky grove]

Should we note the fallout of "that guild" anyway. Knowing the events that come after thor got kicked out puts the whole fiasco in another context

[terse pelican]

Honestly, I don't see why it should be included at all

[fathom stone]

Because its another match to the oil that was already on fire...-_-

[dusky grove]

I mean, ideally the whole thing in january wouldnt have been included at all

But they stepped up to the plate, we gotta hit em with a good pitch

We have the evidence of the events surrounding it, we should use it.

Like how we view historical events with the context of the cultural norms of that time period

[terse pelican]

Makes sense.

[golden mirage]

Don't know if this got shared earlier.
https://fixupx.com/ironmouse/status/1947883998497083855

ironmouse🇵🇷😈💖 (@ironmouse)

i dont really have words that can properly express how i feel. i feel like saying thank you to everyone is not enough. but thank you all so much for your kindness. my heart is so full it feels like its going to explode. you all are truly amazing. im gonna go cry now 🥹💖

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[winged knoll]

That’s how news work tbh, if it happened someone will report it

Tho not a lot of people writing nice article about Thor so it’s really hard to cite source

Need more journalist goblin

[proud depot]

I know I shouldn't care, but there was a release of dopamine when he saw my <message eaten by grue> joke

[wicked schooner]

<message stolen by Gerald>

[terse pelican]

huh...

Messing with Optifine settings

[gloomy forge]

heya everyone, hopefully everyone has a nice day

[terse pelican]

So far it's a nice day here, Weather is decent.

[serene sentinel]

is it out yet

[terse pelican]

Soon, They're doing tests to see so the starter-quest works

[serene sentinel]

what's the ip also

and version

:3

is it only us 😔 ?

[terse pelican]

Mc.blockgame.info and Version 1.21.4

[serene sentinel]

block game eu servers when

[terse pelican]

It's US East, Ping shouldn't be too bad

even if you're in the EU

[serene sentinel]

i'll live 😔

[terse pelican]

As a Swede, I'm getting about 100-120 ms-ish

[hard jackal]

If you get the Blockgame role you can see #blockgame-general and #blockgame-resources ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[serene sentinel]

thanks

[wheat sleet]

Wait, did blockgame rerelease roday?

[lapis flame]

last tests are being run

[waxen comet]

which is why i still think optifine is inferior

[terse pelican]

If it works, It works 🤷‍♂️

[gloomy forge]

I'm so confused, some guy commented in the piratesoftware chat that overexplaining stuff serves as a detriment in social status. stunlocked up kinda hard on that one.

Good teachers do that stuff all the time depemnding on how you have to convey the info. Also yapping is normal for streamers? Even though I'm thinking hard about it, I don't get it sometimes you just have to explain stuff so everyone is on the same page.

just saying "it is how it is" is potato tier talking.

[terse pelican]

Cause people on the internet has the comprehension skill of a rock, So

[umbral gazelle]

its even worse "or autistic" equating all autism with bad social standing

like wtf

[gloomy forge]

as if people with illnesses are lesser people is what I'm getting from there, just hell naw.

people just find other people they connect to online, its how its always been. Not to mention I think Thor always talked like this, but somehow before the year 2025 it was ok to do so. I don't get it at all.

[terse pelican]

[gloomy forge]

HUH, shader problem?

[hard jackal]

That is a shader issue..

[gloomy forge]

Anyways, I just didn't like the ableism, I was giga dumbfounded

[silent compass]

thats called the "my eyes dont work" shader mode

[gloomy forge]

bamboozled and hoodwinked.

[umbral gazelle]

smh just throw shade better Zero

[wicked schooner]

I like the "i forgot to download gmod. Im missing textures" shaders pack

[opaque raven]

Morning StreamChat ☀️

S.Chat

[flat moat]

S.Chlat

[terse pelican]

Howdy

[gloomy forge]

yo!

[wicked schooner]

Howdy do

[forest glacier]

Nice to see Kobolds filling in for 2nd place

[opaque raven]

||Shat||

[flat moat]

https://tenor.com/view/schlatt-jschlatt-gif-25279056

[forest glacier]

shit...

[opaque raven]

wha

I'm really reeeeeally slow today, I will miss 85% of the jokes, pranks and sarcasm

[forest glacier]

whatever floatates your floatation device

[opaque raven]

Spent the whole night in the hospital, haven't slept in like...35hrs or so

[terse pelican]

oof, Go take a nap.

[opaque raven]

Ye, I'm looking for a place to sleep for like 1hr or so

But I'm not leaving yet

This is what happened

#general_chat message

[proud depot]

stuck in a small hole underground
gets teleported to surface
immediately starts digging down

[opaque raven]

Minecraft looks really fun
But it also looks like a very dangerous game

[gloomy forge]

depends on how you wanna play it, minecraft really is just an empty state. you choose how you wanna do stuff. play singleplayer with a goal, creative mode, online with people.

theres a ton of stuff, tons of mods too.

[cobalt yoke]

RIP eastern european players

[gloomy forge]

[proud depot]

the java edition of minecraft is a mess of spaghetti code

[high ember]

i'd play Blockgame rn but I'm busy with the game jam

[opaque raven]

Seems like the type of game that I would blink and 3hrs have passed like nothing

[proud depot]

its the reason mods can be notoriously buffy

*buggy

unfortunately there are no buffy mods

[terse pelican]

I tried blockgame, But nope. Not for me

[proud depot]

wait till you get into modded minecraft. I once spent 3 hours comparing shaders to pick one to use

[cobalt yoke]

been tryna find a really really good RPG modpack, but i just can never find one that sticks

[proud depot]

I'm more into the sciency/automation type of mods, more the tekkit side of things

[oblique wharf]

Well if they slay vampires in it it might count (/ref)

[cobalt yoke]

i really want a modpack that has player levels that upgrade stats, and also enemies level up alongside you. and also just an insane amount of quests and content

[proud depot]

make sure you have a powerful computer before you go deep into modded minecraft. It can get slow real quick if you're not careful

[oblique wharf]

At that point play an RPG

[terse pelican]

But Minecraft.

[cobalt yoke]

but minecraft...

[proud depot]

best thing for that would be to look at modded servers

[oblique wharf]

It's not Minecraft anymore past that point.

[lapis flame]

this sounds like blockgame

[terse pelican]

Blockgame is sorta, Like that, but not exactly

[cobalt yoke]

thats the thing, i think the only "rpg" that i've enjoyed was Cyberpunk but even that level up system didnt scratch the itch i had for it

[terse pelican]

Hey, People want to play games their way, and if they want a full RPG in Minecraft, why not?

[cobalt yoke]

i like seeing number go up

[opaque raven]

I barely knows how it works but I would make a huge clean space and try playing with some automation

[proud depot]

have you looked at vault hunters?

[oblique wharf]

Uhh go play deltarune

[terse pelican]

People use AlternativE Life mods in Skyrim, ETC so the games change drastically

[cobalt yoke]

not my kinda thing, i like more sandbox rpg

[oblique wharf]

Dragon quest?

[opaque raven]

I played the demo of Builders and it was really fun

[lapis flame]

oh, UT2004RPG + Invasion. I suspect you can still find a server or two running that.

[terse pelican]

DQBuilders 2 was great

[gloomy forge]

the best sandbox rpg is probably OSRS, its pretty insane but a gigaslowburn.

Modded Terraria is great for RPG related things, some great mods there.

[brittle brook]

theres a handful of RPGs that auto-scale mobs around the player-level, though a lot just end up feeling copy-pasta-filler because of it, look at most BGS RPG's like Skyrim, Starfailed, FO4, etc

[proud depot]

have you looked at vault hunters? there's tons of content, levelling, armor types, just tons of stats to keep track of. Though it is the type of modpack you need a tutorial for

[gloomy forge]

The UT2004 RPG mutators were fun.

[cobalt yoke]

nah, tbh at this point im probs better off waiting for the new witcher to come out. Because i basically just want witcher 3 again lmao

[cobalt yoke]

i think i played that one for a bit, might have to revisit it

[gloomy forge]

for RPG where number goes up I recommend Gothic 1 + 2 but if you want to have some action with a level up system and phenomenal meta then play vampire survivors.

[cobalt yoke]

i love vampire survivors but really wish it had a more fleshed out endless mode. the 30 minute timer hurts

[gloomy forge]

its bitesized but it opens up insanely hard. game is 300 hours long though with all the DLCs.

[terse pelican]

Wassn't there a Wheel of Time RPG that use the same engine as Unreal /Unreal Tournament?

[gloomy forge]

you unlock endless mode later on.

[oblique wharf]

There's a endless mode

[lapis flame]

yes, UE1

[brittle brook]

it wasn't really an RPG, but ya, there's was a WoT FPS a long time ago, should be on GOG currently

[terse pelican]

Endless mode in Vampire Survivors is just rough, Like you hit a point where you just watch the number go up, And can't ever die

[cobalt yoke]

ive 100% it, i know. But its just repeating the same waves over and over. I wish it was more "random" after 30 minutes, sorta like Risk of Rain 2 looping where things get crazier and crazier. You get to a point in vampire survivors where you just cant die

[opaque raven]

Is there a final objective on Minecraft, like Terraria?

[terse pelican]

At one point, I let it run for like 4+ hours straight doing Nada

[terse pelican]

OG Minecraft? Yes, Kill the Ender Dragon

[oblique wharf]

What about Trove?

[opaque raven]

Does the world change after that?

[terse pelican]

Nope

Ender Dragon is in it's own 'world', called The End

You progress from the 'Overworld' - 'Nether' - 'The End'

[gloomy forge]

depends on the build, hunting the 4 skill books to fuse them with build later on took me like 4 hours or so to complete. The game is full of these challenge mode (its in the castlevania DLC).

its a bit sad, vampire survivor is fun but you really should get all the DLC for the best experience and meta. The game just opens up.

[cobalt yoke]

yeah i think i had most of the DLC, kinda stopped playing once i found risk of rain 2

[gloomy forge]

For instance, everything in vampire survivors is obfuscated. you can use 6 weapon but there is a weapon in the game that evolves even further after its initial evolution, with the side skill that allows you to fuse all weapons you own into one, effectively allowing you to hold 11 weapons.

[oblique wharf]

The world doesn't change, but you can find something that lets ya glide around if you explore The End after beating the Ender Dragon.

[wicked schooner]

Why is thor's screen shaking?

[brittle brook]

why aren't you shaking to match?

[worthy ivy]

earthquake?

[gloomy forge]

KEKW counter shake

[worthy ivy]

Independence Day starring Will Smith is actually happening?

[wicked schooner]

Is it actually?

[worthy ivy]

no just spitballing

[opaque raven]

Ooohh those little lamps are really cute

[wicked schooner]

I was actually curious and the answer made me concerned

[opaque raven]

Are they part of the mod?

[worthy ivy]

sorry am just being a goblin

[wicked schooner]

Ok thor's back

Im glad

[fluid dome]

Morning

[opaque raven]

Underground looks so beautiful with all those colorful lights

[fluid dome]

My code vein build is absolute insanity

[opaque raven]

Hell ye!!

[opaque raven]

How far are you already?

[gloomy forge]

show it!

i wanna see

[wind hare]

So it looks like the Wiki article is already being disputed, hope it gets fixed up

[gloomy forge]

what wiki article? did something happen?

[wind hare]

Someone made a crappy Wiki on Thor. It can get updated with good info but right now its not great

[gloomy forge]

Ahhh official wikipedia entry I guess?

[wind hare]

ya

[terse pelican]

Someone here was gonna compile accurate information in a Google Doc and use that as a baseline to correct the Wikipedia page

[terse pelican]

This

[wind hare]

I mean, from the times I have used Wiki its normally well regulated even for hard topics. So they should be able to fix it up

[terse pelican]

I mean yeah, But giving accurate information with sources helps the cleanup

[wind hare]

No thats good also. I am just saying I have hope that its not going to be moderated by asshats

[gloomy forge]

Yeah true i get why. solving the [CITATION NEEDED] problem is important.

[wind hare]

I mean they did that pretty fast

[gloomy forge]

yeah, the information itself also has to be neutral.

Yeah that entire wikipedia article is garbage, needs to be rewritten entirely.

[fluid dome]

@gloomy forge

I'm in the Provisional Government Center

Impaler+8, Nagikumuro+10, Night Thorn+9 w/Queenslayer Blood Code.

I managed to first try Queen Knight Reborn

[gloomy forge]

ohhhh! nice, I wanna play this game gonna get it on sale.

[fluid dome]

Yeeeee

It's so good

[opaque raven]

It's really fun

[gloomy forge]

oh, it is on sale!

-85% off.

[terse pelican]

Code Vein was released in uh... 2016-2018?

[gloomy forge]

is the deluxe edition important?

[terse pelican]

2019 even, 6 years old.

[opaque raven]

Nah

[gloomy forge]

doesn't seem to be old.

[opaque raven]

Don't worry at all about the dlcs

[terse pelican]

What about Scarlet Nexus, Either of you played it?

[gloomy forge]

ohhh nice.

[opaque raven]

Not yet

[gloomy forge]

stop influencing me.

[terse pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/henry-stickmin-wololo-gif-18146468

[gloomy forge]

[wind hare]

Damn that joke is old and I love it

[terse pelican]

It's a glorious joke.

[gloomy forge]

only zoomers think that old = bad.

same goes with loud = funny.

[wind hare]

it just shows me how old I am, which is bad

[gloomy forge]

some things are also timeless

I'm not fully serious but yeah.

[wind hare]

Not if you were there when the game came out lol

[gloomy forge]

You mean Age of Empires 1?

[wind hare]

Yes

[gloomy forge]

Its old but not that old.

[terse pelican]

I was 7 when AoE 1 came out.

[wind hare]

My first screenname was Legionnaire, due to the game

[waxen comet]

if its old and still working, its probably high quality
how else would soem old hunk of junk survive so long

[gloomy forge]

People were so sad that AoE1 never was on steam or on the radar again that some indie groups made their own age of empires.

[waxen comet]

or it has better standard

[gloomy forge]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1674820/TFC_The_Fertile_Crescent/

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[terse pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/cobra-car-aoe2-age-of-empires-2-gif-6787409075680168210

[opaque raven]

Soooo cool

[gloomy forge]

KEKW I remember the cheats and units.

[opaque raven]

Let me try making a short video of one of my builds and how I play, 1sec

[gloomy forge]

thanks for influencing me everyone.

[terse pelican]

''I take weapon, I smash the enemies face in. I win. The End''

[gloomy forge]

rare occasian to buy a game on steam.

[waxen comet]

not really? theres a percieved ending but there are still things to do in the game

[terse pelican]

There's a ''End Credits'' Scene, but the game doesn't 'end' like most linear story games, You just end up in a ''sandbox'' mode

[wind hare]

I thought the end was killing the ender dragon or something like that

[terse pelican]

It is the 'final' goal, But it doesn't 'end' the game, It just shows Credits and then you can carry on

[wind hare]

Same a Terreria, you can play after beating the Moonlord

[terse pelican]

yup

[gloomy forge]

and code vein is also easier than dark souls neat gonna consume the game. I also seen that the character editor is powerful.

omegafun for me, the issue is I suallly wanna stream playthroughs like this and I'm kinda busy

[teal zodiac]

@fluid dome woosh woosh 🔥
(contain spoilers for those who never played)

[gloomy forge]

I knew it KEKW one hit ko

[waxen comet]

its a bit of a misnomer to call it final though

[gloomy forge]

can you repeat bossfights?

or is it just a linear experience where the game just ends and all.

[teal zodiac]

Yup, you can find all bosses again on a separate things called The Depths

[gloomy forge]

oh shit, thats actually amazing.

[terse pelican]

Wel Kinda, But it is how you get the end credits

[wind hare]

What a strange thing to have on your profile with so many contributions.

I've never jumpedm into the WikiVerse before

interesting how the website works on the backend

[terse pelican]

Interesting

[opaque raven]

One thing that is kinda important is that Code Vein's story starts around the second half of God Eater 1

So if you don't know anything about God Eater, it's kinda cool to see some quick yt video about its lore first

[gloomy forge]

I know that its a monhun like. maybe I do it if the lore of code vein interests me

[opaque raven]

Ye, it's anime MonHun, just like CV is anime Dark Souls

[coarse locust]

I didn't know they were the same universe! Makes sense just going off the aesthetics alone

[gloomy forge]

what is the best god eater game?

[opaque raven]

Without much spoilers:
God Eater is what happened around Japan and Europe while Code Vein is around USA and Russia

[coarse locust]

That's dope

[opaque raven]

Oh, for sure Resurrection

[gloomy forge]

alrights, its bundled with god eater 2 on steam.

once its cheap its instabuy.

[opaque raven]

It's the remake of Burst, that is a remake of G, that is a remake of God Eater 1 for psp

[gloomy forge]

its god eater all the way down.

[waxen comet]

god eater was pretty good

the only one where i havent fully completed was funnily enough god eater burst

[gloomy forge]

still is, games don't just run away

[waxen comet]

i fnished god eater 2 and 3

[gloomy forge]

I should get into these games.

was it fun? hows the monster variety?

[waxen comet]

whats funny is on god eater 3, i ran the half circle weapon and it took me hours to finish

then i tried the other new weapon

i cleared it in like

half the time

the character customization was also pretty good

but the best part of god eater

was the BULLET CUSTOMIZATION

like the bullet customization on that game was so good

[opaque raven]

I mean, knowing the end of God Eater 3 and seeing the recent trailer of Code Vein 2 is like...oh boy, this is gonna be GOOD

[waxen comet]

one of my favorite parts of god eater was just messing with the bullets

but the most effective bullet i ever made whilst being a bit stylish was literally a mortar

it fires way high in the sky

then nothing happens

suddenly an extremely fast bullet just comes CRASHING DOWN PINPOINT ON THE ENEMY AND EXPLODES

[gloomy forge]

i should play more modded stardew.

[hasty grail]

im having a good time with this mod pack for stardew valley

this plus a few more machine mods of my choosing

[waxen comet]

i havent tried any modded stardew

theres still so much to vanilla i could do

[gloomy forge]

Not a huge fan of vortex but I can mod everything in manually not a big deal.

[waxen comet]

same

years of being a modding platform only to be inferior to curseforge or modrinth

[gloomy forge]

vortex is always acting funky for me. I mod like I use linux, full costumizeability with all the things considered. thats something that MO2 provides fairly well. The set up is so much better than vortex.

yeah true, modrinth is fantastic.

[waxen comet]

the main problems i have in vortex is that it lacks a lot of the basic functionality

like auto downloading collections

or auto downloading mod dependencies

like

[gloomy forge]

what I hate about minecraft modding is that updates break all mods. theres no backwards compatibility or batch patching.

[waxen comet]

what do you mean i have to MANUALLY CLICK DOWNLOAD on all 200 mods

then theres downloading one mod

then it doesnt download dependency

so i download it manually

then another mod also needs a dependency

so h ave to go back and DOUBLE CHECK if i had that mod downloaded bec it was a shared dependency

then theres also a bit of idfk why my game crashes moment

in some modloaders, at least it tells you if the mod version is or isnt supported

and why it crashes

in MC that is

not in skyrim

also sometimes i dont know WHY a mod doesnt work functionally

their forums are sometimes ILL equipped with the entire information

ive seen github repositories on minecraft mods showcasing if another mod can work with this mod and if there are any bugs that occured and reported

[gloomy forge]

even manually downloading 200 mods takes 4 minutes max for me. The problem is clicking the mod and wait until it loads, then click the dl button

As for Skyrim...lets just say I had to memorize the descriptions of 3700 mods so I know what compatibilties everything had and why something breaks right after i used something and it crahses. Turns out all crashes in modded skyrim are user issues. theres Wabberjack but adding mods to that is a nightmare and big modlists also should only be uses on giga high end PCs.

[winged knoll]

Real wiki people so good

[gloomy forge]

wikipedia has all the important news.

[terse pelican]

Should it be specified that the order to 'Run' was given?

or is that unnecessary?

[waxen comet]

for more context probably

but idk how wikipedia article really does things so

[hasty grail]

if you give Nexus $10 a month then it will auto download mods for a collection

[waxen comet]

and i can pay curseforge zero dollars to also do the same

[hasty grail]

for Stardew Valley it is very much a download and play

[waxen comet]

which is why i still dont like the mod manager

[hasty grail]

thats fair

ive got some weird issues with Curse

[waxen comet]

the auto download collection mods being behind a paywall? bro

[terse pelican]

Nexus was bought out very recently, and it might change vastly soon(TM)

[waxen comet]

at least for curseforge i can make my own kitchen sink modpack

[waxen comet]

buyouts never give me confidence

they lose money instantly bec of the buyout so they might seek an easy short term profit

[hasty grail]

to be fair the person who took control was someone who was already involved

[waxen comet]

rather than rely on the long term

[hasty grail]

if i remember correctly

[terse pelican]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nexusmods/comments/1lde3c2/nexus_mods_is_now_acquired_by_chosen_a_company/

[hasty grail]

nevermind

i take back all that i said

but i will be monitoring it regardless

[terse pelican]

Yup

[earnest mirage]

The first blue marked changes still lack NPOV (Neutral Point Of View), not speaking of the sus looking reflink. The outcome was a group effort and should be treated as such.

[swift gulch]

I'd say

During a chaotic fight, the order to run was given by the party leader, and during the escape another group of enemies was engaged. This resulted in the death of two other high-level players.

The order to run is very important context there, otherwise it makes it seem like he just ditched

[lapis flame]

can you use "pull" in that context, or would you use "fight"

[swift gulch]

That could work

[terse pelican]

That's what I'm thinking aswell

[lapis flame]

pull is not commonly understood i feel

[swift gulch]

Actually I'll add some more info, one sec

[terse pelican]

Pull - ''Attraction of Hostile Non-Player-Entities'' ?

[winged knoll]

I might need help with source citing

Also @jolly sky look how the rabbit hole go

[swift gulch]

That would have to be up to others, I don't have sources on hand and can't find them easily while at work

I know Thor talked about it in the Dr K interview

[flint sinew]

[swift gulch]

And I've even heard Mujin mention it in his drama slop

[terse pelican]

I think the problem is there is that it's 3rd Party sources

which can be highly unreliable

[hasty grail]

mod arrived

[swift gulch]

Yeah, if a link to the VOD itself can be found, that would be best

[winged knoll]

Hello mod, i'm doing good good, don't ban me

[hasty grail]

quick, post bread to distract them

[flint sinew]

are we still having these discussions

[winged knoll]

🍞

[lapis flame]

i also think wikipedia loves secondary sources and prefers them over primary ones

[hasty grail]

https://tenor.com/view/falling-toast-live-toast-reaction-toast-dies-gif-7238761997416289033

[swift gulch]

We're updating Thor's wiki to be less blatantly biased

[flint sinew]

ah

[terse pelican]

It's about correction on the Wiki not the drama itself

[winged knoll]

It's for a good cause

[flint sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/stepping-back-zach-jobe-donut-media-leaving-escape-gif-21567904

[swift gulch]

[terse pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-cat-gif-23507304

[winged knoll]

alright he's away, now let's wreak havoc

[swift gulch]

But yeah at this point they've sunk to the level of using his wiki page as a hitpiece

[winged knoll]

@jolly sky

https://x.com/octopusf00d/status/1796797415707844923

apparently someone is a lil sussy baka

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-sussy-baka-gif-24795940

[lapis flame]

@winged knoll have a source for the "After run was called" https://gamerant.com/pirate-software-removed-onlyfangs-world-of-warcraft-guild-sodapoppin/

After a party member called for the group to run out of the dungeon and reset these enemies, Pirate Software abandoned the group while escaping.

[muted robin]

why use text sources when there's video sources up? i know it's not a direct vod link but ppl like asmongold covered the clip/vod play by play

[terse pelican]

Phrasing there is a bit non-neutral, but as a source it might work

[waxen comet]

i dont know if abandoned is the correct terminology

[umbral gazelle]

"After a party member called for the group to run" everything ends here

someone called for run

People should have run

[waxen comet]

could be more like Pirate Software fled.

[lapis flame]

text is easier to verify and preserve

[waxen comet]

thats it

[umbral gazelle]

Mental gymnatiics of trying to un call a run

[muted robin]

also it was two party members who called to run, yamato AND ozy

aka the rogue and the tank

[waxen comet]

we dont need to clarify rogue or tank

[muted robin]

even compared to a video on a multi-million subscriber channel?

[waxen comet]

unnecessary

[muted robin]

it just seems weird to use what's basically a secondary source (people talking on a forum) over a primary source (actual video)

[lapis flame]

yes

[waxen comet]

you can download the entirety of wikipedia as text on a hard drive

[lapis flame]

you can search through text

[waxen comet]

so yes

[lapis flame]

cant do that for video

[umbral gazelle]

Anyway lets talk about something else than drama

[muted robin]

okay i guess, i'm not a wikipedia editor

[waxen comet]

you could but in absolutely terrible quality and it would not be very useful

[lapis flame]

neither am i

[opaque raven]

I usually have no complains about Steam but it's really annoying when it updates the mods from the workshop and doesn't tell you which ones

[umbral gazelle]

new 10 gb download from where steam! There isnt a new patch D: oh its mods... BUT WHICH MODS. i feel this

[opaque raven]

(This was supposed to be a reply to something way up, anyway)

[waxen comet]

id question why you have mods totaling up to 10GB to be updated

[lapis flame]

its fine if you only need a citation for "Run was called first"

[opaque raven]

I need to open the workshop...filter by my subscribed mods...organize by update, and maaaaybe understand which ones I redownloaded

[umbral gazelle]

Warhammer total war graphical upgrades

I refuse to have my dinos be pixelated

they need to be smooth

and deadly

[waxen comet]

id just put "An call to run was made by 2 members" in that section to be totally neutral

[waxen comet]

fair enough

in return you get a pixelated bnnuy

[umbral gazelle]

That is cute though

[terse pelican]

You know... A Total War Pixel game would be kinda cool

[umbral gazelle]

it would...

now i want that

[waxen comet]

pixelated lugia too

its the closest dinosaur thing i have rn

[umbral gazelle]

They are removing arse ladders from total war warhammer 3 so siege isnt absolutely horrible

[terse pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/monseter-hunter-gif-22956841

[terse pelican]

What's wrong with Ladders?

[waxen comet]

i sdly dont have anything that high definition

[opaque raven]

Dinos??
I thought Warhammer was like hyper futuristic weapons, warp demons and galactic problems

[terse pelican]

Warhammer has two sides, Fantasy and Sci-Fi

[waxen comet]

the closes thing i have is a vtuber

[terse pelican]

Sci-Fi is 40k

[umbral gazelle]

ghosts should not pull ladders out of their behinds and use thme to climb xD

[terse pelican]

But, Muh Ghost Butt Ladders!

[waxen comet]

isnt warhammer just a culmination of just random nerd stuff that basicalyl either comes off as grimdark or comedic

[swift gulch]

Basically yeah

[waxen comet]

like orks are basically orks

[swift gulch]

But there are two distinct settings, as mentioned

[waxen comet]

except bec of their extreme dumbness

they somehow created soemthing that rivals modernity

[opaque raven]

Hmmm
So Warhammer is like the theme while 40K is the series within that theme?

[waxen comet]

and then the imperium is something like 100 worlds gone: did we count it wrong?

was it a rounding error

[swift gulch]

The funniest thing about the Orkz is
They could probably dominate the entire galaxy easily, except maybe the Tyranids
The only thing standing in their way is that they're just as happy murdering each other as they are murdering any other faction
So they spend more time infighting than they do trying to conquer anyone else

[swift gulch]

Yeah, basically
Warhammer Fantasy is basically if you took the 40k factions and just made them medieval fantasy instead

(And add Scaeven)

[opaque raven]

Does this divide the fans?

[terse pelican]

Nah

[swift gulch]

In the sense that some have a preference for one or the other, sure
I haven't seen much infighting about it though

[golden latch]

Somewhat until they killed off fantasy

[swift gulch]

Most I've seen was just
"40k is cool but I prefer fantasy" or vice versa

[terse pelican]

It's not like people fight over Star-Wars VS Star Trek

[swift gulch]

I don't know how it is for the tabletop, but Fantasy still gets some cool content
Total War now has three games for it, and Vermintide has two

[golden latch]

Fantasy warhammer is no more the Skaven blew it up

[terse pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/tretch-craventail-total-war-warhammer-warp-lightning-cannon-warhammer-total-war-gif-15777904

[golden latch]

All games and media is prequels now

[swift gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/ratling-guns-total-war-warhammer-skaven-warhammer-total-war-gif-15796051

This is a Ratling Gun

Yes that's its official canon name

One of the best parts of Warhammer is that it very much leans into how campy it gets sometimes

Everything about living in the setting sucks to such an absurd degree that it loops back around to being hilarious

[opaque raven]

I have 2 friends that stopped talking to each other for months due to this nonsense

[brittle brook]

there's one clear, unquestionable answer to any "Star Wars v Star Trek" debate...

Babylon 5

[swift gulch]

(Stargate)

[terse pelican]

Far-Scape.

[golden latch]

I liked Farscapes inter species cooperation more

[swift gulch]

Farscape was okay

I'd probably like it more than I did before on a rewatch

It was ages ago

[golden latch]

The teeth brushing worm was fascinating

[terse pelican]

It's been years since I watched FarScape

[swift gulch]

I liked Stargate in how it leaned into the actual military/governmental aspect of running a program like that

Like, one thing that was always fun with Stargate is that they incorporated the recap episodes into the overarching story

And the recap for season one was some senator wondering why the military was sinking billions of dollars a year into this top-secret project, so they had to sit around a table and justify the program's existence to him

[errant tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/pink-monkey-monkey-sassy-monkey-sassy-side-eye-gif-7915249211756705778

[worthy ivy]

are orcs orks from the past or are orks orcs from the future?

[wind hare]

Yep, totally liked them working together and nothing else

[swift gulch]

The two settings aren't connected in canon

[spice dome]

love it when people make videos claiming one thing and do zero research outside of other brainrot videos

[spice dome]

https://tenor.com/view/aeryn-sun-farscape-gif-24769940

[worthy ivy]

sadgeness - so eldar aren't actually space elves?
but that means Necrons aren't space-undead either...
...illusions... shattering!!!....
help!

[swift gulch]

They are in 40k 😛

[worthy ivy]

does explain why there's no space-rats tho

[swift gulch]

Yeah, there are a few factions that I don't think cross over

Fantasy has Scaeven and Ogres

And I think it doesn't have Necrons

[worthy ivy]

convergent evolution - greenskins are greenskins, whatever universe they're in

[swift gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/bromance-sig-curtis-alex-louis-armstrong-fullmetal-fma-gif-18194534

(This, and then they immediately punch each other in the face)

[umbral gazelle]

so im installing and game from GOG i agree to this blank user agreement xD

[golden latch]

Is that a typing cursor can you type a new user agreement?

[umbral gazelle]

i cannot type in it

i tried

there is the typing line

but it doesnt accept inputs

[golden latch]

Fascinating

[worthy ivy]

I like the minimalist style - is a well drafted agreement that 🙂

[gloomy forge]

If I could edit a user agreement I'd wish myself for a 1000 user agreements that I can edit each.

also why doesn't the user agreement agree with me for once

[wind hare]

it doesn't, just regular undead. I think there is rumor of them adding Skaven into 40k but I haven't seen anything official yet.

[swift gulch]

👀

[wind hare]

The fan theory is that the Warhammer dark age world is trapped in the warp. because the lizardmen, are more advanced then they should be and resemble the ancient ones who made most of the races in 40k

[swift gulch]

I could see that

[wind hare]

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Old_Ones

[gloomy forge]

old ones = everyone born pre 1980 🙂

[wind hare]

Connection to Warhammer

The Old Ones are a recurring element in both the Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000 universes, sharing much of the same lore.

It is possible that the Old Ones are the same Old Ones that the Lizardmen worship in the Warhammer universe, as in the 8th Edition Lizardmen armybook it states that the Old Ones came from the stars and discovered the world of Mallus, then proceeded to terraform it and create intelligent species like the Slann, the Elves and the Dwarfs to live upon it.

There is also a priest of Sigmar who is said to have had a vision of the Old Ones as described in the universe of Warhammer 40,000, who he refers to as the "First Ones".

However, in recent years, Games Workshop has gone to great pains to emphasize that the Warhammer 40,000 and Warhammer universes are entirely separate and unconnected realities, save through the existence of the Realm of Chaos in both.

thats from the wiki

[toxic rampart]

I mean, as neat as it would be, Both WH and 40k can use elements of the overarching setting without being directly related.
It's just such a sick concept with so many cool themes and settings that it works for either alone in a vacuum

[jolly sky]

Be careful not to take everything you see at first glance as correct, even things about the people who are "against" Thor

[wind hare]

I think if you can convince them that they would sell more mini's, they would do anything lol

[gloomy forge]

Yeah don't perpetuate the drama.

[wind hare]

I don't like the new Sigmar storyline just because its so out in left field, not connected to anything

[gloomy forge]

make up your own mind and move on, never believe anything you see online. Go by your own values.

[wind hare]

I can't wait for Total War 40k

[gloomy forge]

If you wanna get educated read a book all that shit online is inconsequential nonsense that doesn't impact you in any way anyways.

[toxic rampart]

Okay true

[golden latch]

*reads a drama magazine

[gloomy forge]

based

[wind hare]

If Games Workshop could figure out how to put microtransactions into the tabletop games they would

[gloomy forge]

"don't tell me what to do"

[umbral gazelle]

They have

[wind hare]

How so?

[umbral gazelle]

Sometimes they sell individual parts for models

like jetpacks

xD

[terse pelican]

''Tabletop'' is pure Microtransactions.

[swift gulch]

Or weapon replacement and such

[wind hare]

ok well that is true, but in the middle of the match the game runner doesn't stop the game and ask if you want better looking dice or to add a +1 to your roll for 5 dollars

[gloomy forge]

microtransactions the price of a macrotransaction

[terse pelican]

That's why it's called Warhammer 401k

[gloomy forge]

thats just the amount you pay per year.

[waxen comet]

you mean per month

[toxic rampart]

I know the Tt game is the bread and butter but it still blows my mind they haven't translated it into digital spaces yet.
Talk about a gateway drug to the real thing.

The market is huge for it. Look at the support on tabletop sim lmao.

[gloomy forge]

in the grim darkness of the far future, your wallet only knows war.

[wind hare]

There are a stupid amount of games for warhammer, most of them are just bad

[jolly sky]

https://tenor.com/view/randowis-gif-24564140

[toxic rampart]

I mean strictly the Tt translated.
It's a huge thing on tabletop sim with mods.

[wind hare]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Games_Workshop_video_games

[toxic rampart]

If they did that officially it would do gang busters AND get new players in at a much easier level to access

[worthy ivy]

should always take a second glance at everything

[toxic rampart]

Do a bit of moon breaker style model painting too.
Get people hooking on that plastic crack in digital form.
Suddenly Johnny wants to get his cool figure irl. Maybe even build his winning digital army irl.
Woops, Johnny is now at tournies and spending dosh on paints

[winged knoll]

hmm hmmm i agree, but seems like there's a whole wikifarm page dedicated for his grift XD

[wind hare]

wikifarm?

[terse pelican]

Bad website, Where they literally collect 'EVERYTHING' on anyone so they can potentially do harm later

[winged knoll]

talking about LM, not Thor anyway

[worthy ivy]

that's what I saw when I gave it my second glance
the whole "lawtuber" thing seems to be drama-tubing with extra analysis? the algorithm knows I'm not into that so I don't get too much of them in me feed!

[terse pelican]

Still applies to 'any' online personality, even if they're very small I'd say

[terse pelican]

Worst part is, I do watch that LawTuber 😐 Although, His content in hindsight, Has been very... Biased

[fluid dome]

Am home now

[wind hare]

Wait, are you trying to claim that OTHER Farm website has legitamate information? Thats used to attack people and has led to suicide attempts from people that they attack? That farm site?

[winged knoll]

Hi home, we are goblins

[lapis tartan]

Hi home, we are kobolds

[winged knoll]

goblins > kobolds

[terse pelican]

Kobold Goblin Hybrids Represent.

[balmy bone]

how long does it usually take for a twitch unban request to be reviewed? I got FF'd by Heimdall.

[lapis tartan]

Kobolds > gooblins

[fluid dome]

Why is the Internet blowing up around thor again sigh

[terse pelican]

Depends, Can take a bit

[terse pelican]

Cause he's the hot button topic of the year

[winged knoll]

disagree, G is before K in the alphabet, so G > K

[jolly sky]

All we can say for absolute certain is that LM is a Real Estate Lawyer, not a finance or fraud lawyer, and doesn't live in the US anymore, and hasn't actually practiced law in the US for years. So his accusation of fraud is bogus.

[balmy bone]

alrighty then. I wait more....

[fluid dome]

I'm out of the loop on the fraud stuff

[worthy ivy]

I have learned over the past few weeks that an absolute crapton of content creators who appear to be knowledgable actually do zero research - have culled them from my algorithm, but damn - had to go back and check their coverage of other stuff and... lo and behold... no research there either

it's like "trust me bro I'm from the internet" on steds 😦

[winged knoll]

this i can agree with

[terse pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[lyric venture]

Khronos usually does it but I think he hasn't been streaming to avoid some of the insanity so it may take a bit.

[terse pelican]

He's currently taking time of for personal stuff.

[lapis tartan]

Yeah, but K is a cooler letter, so says Mortal Kombat.

[jolly sky]

He has some family stuff to deal with so he's on break

[lyric venture]

Ah ok, didn't know he had some family stuff to deal with. Hopefully everything is ok :/

[balmy bone]

I hope he's alright.

[fluid dome]

Idk what the context is for the fraud stuff except that khronos dono'd to the hype train last year on an alt. Idk if there's more to it

[jolly sky]

Assuming that his identity isn't being stolen, he also has two different avenues of income on top of his Youtube

[worthy ivy]

that's literally all it is

[jolly sky]

That's pretty much it. People are claiming that because Khronos donated to the Hypetrain, its fraud

And that "it breaks ToS" which it does not.

[worthy ivy]

hyped up by lawtubers who think tokens are money

[winged knoll]

Gortal Gombat is cooler than Kortal Kombat

[worthy ivy]

the local beer festival would beg to disagree 🙂

[terse pelican]

Wortal Wombat is best.

or Mortal Mombat.

[worthy ivy]

tbh I'd play Mortal Wombat - sounds sick

[lapis tartan]

More goblin gibberish propaganda.

[fluid dome]

I don't think it's that big of a deal personally but also, with the current climate around Thor I can see how it can be read that way. Not like addressing it would fix it. It's just something more to add on to the pile of shit.

But also, I'm generally of the opinion that you probably shouldn't be doing things which could be used as ammunition against you.

Not blaming anyone for anything here either. I have more thoughts on this but I just got back and I'm exhausted.

I also worry if I say more I'd get in trouble

And tbh

[terse pelican]

Out of Context it looks weird, But Contextually, It's perfectly fine

[fluid dome]

Nothing thor says anymore will be taken in good faith. It doesn't matter if he refutes it or defends himself. To the public, and the people who don't interact with him daily, his reputation is in the mud, and mud sticks. It's how it goes.

[jolly sky]

I mean, if they want to use that as Ammo, then they'd better be prepared to use it against every streamer they like 'cause streamers and their mods donate to their own hype trains all the time.

It's so small of a nothing burger that even the worlds smallest meat eating animal would be disappointed at how little there is.

[swift gulch]

At a certain point you have to ask yourself how many people would have to be in on the conspiracy and actively lying about it for all of this to work

[jolly sky]

Sadly yes that is true

[swift gulch]

Like even something as simple as the voice changer accusations
That means Thor, his dad, and anyone who's met him in person over the past few years would have to be either lying or refusing to say anything about it

[shell osprey]

flesh-eating bacteria perhaps?

[lapis tartan]

It's that area of vagueness that the drama pushers hope someone will stupid things up. Make it "bad" through disingenuous opinions.

[jolly sky]

About the "Mud sticks" but using that as their "We finally got him" is disingenuous at best, and outright malicious at worst

[fluid dome]

This is all a psyop instigated by the mods because they're secretly lizard people as a part of the shadow proclamation

[jolly sky]

Even one of Thors biggest detractors pulled back on it

[terse pelican]

Yup

[worthy ivy]

I present to you Mortal Wombat

[fluid dome]

Who

[jolly sky]

A shame he can only attack with his butt

[brittle brook]

the mods being lizard-people has nothing to do with the terminally-online trying to spread their brainrot nonsense

[terse pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/zoolander-will-ferrell-beautiful-its-beautiful-wonderful-gif-3547414

[jolly sky]

Quin. I don't know which one. Funnily enough there are two Quins on youtube riding the drama slop $$$$ wagon

[fluid dome]

As bad as it sounds, I'm secretly hoping the vshojo stuff blows up beyond the vtubing sphere so that all the heat from thor goes to Vshojo

[swift gulch]

Honestly
They actually deserve the hate

If even half of what's been said about them by the content creators is true

[fluid dome]

As a corporate entity, Vshojo is actually worse than Thor by several orders of magnitude

[jolly sky]

Would be nice to see the internet anger be directed at something noble at least

[flint sinew]

🍕

[crude canyon]

All this would have been forgotten by the internet if a simple "sorry I messed up" was said right away thats what I think :). The world would have moved on

[jolly sky]

PIZZA!?

[fluid dome]

I believe iron mouse's story is legit tbh.

[exotic forge]

Sigh another one???

[jolly sky]

Pizza with pizazz!?

[swift gulch]

Yeah, people treat it as if Thor was a legislator actively shooting down SKG and preventing it from getting passed
When he's just another guy on the internet giving his opinion
If the movement can't recover because one content creator disagreed, that's on them

[lapis tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/pizza-i-love-pizza-food-coma-eating-pizza-binge-eating-gif-10397119977470254492

[fluid dome]

If I had a nickel for every time a business stole money intended for charity I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird it happened twice

[polar trail]

People tend to be more bothered, or rather entertained, by individuals who are perceived as annoying over a company that isn't personified, I think it's unlikely Vshojo's blunder would distract a significant number of people from the one they deem more entertaining

[fluid dome]

I would also say that the fact that the majority of the en side of vshojo has dropped affiliate status with them tells you there's some credibility. Especially if Kson admitted on stream they have not been paid

[wind hare]

The same people who are keeping Thor in the headlines are trying to push a narrative that he's the one who is reporting the EU about donations not being tracked correctly. He's going to be blamed for anything. Might as well start making the Obama meme about Him.

Thanks Thor!

[swift gulch]

Yeah, the "if" wasn't about me doubting them, I'm fully on their side
More just about "proof in court" kinda thing

[exotic forge]

LOL

[tranquil jewel]

“The burden of proof should fall upon the accuser”

[wind hare]

Anyone with photoshop skills who can make one?

[wind hare]

They don't want proof, they want someone to blame to make themselves feel better

[balmy bone]

THis is why I hate public opinion. The public is usually very stupid.

[lapis tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/men-in-black-will-smith-tommy-lee-jones-people-are-dumb-dumb-gif-16732732

[wind hare]

thats a good one as well

[swift gulch]

God this describes the entire situation lately

[balmy bone]

Great frakking film

[flint sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/shikamaru-anime-naruto-shippuden-manga-series-face-palm-gif-17236628

[fluid dome]

Shikamaru gotta be the realest mfer in naruto dude

[balmy bone]

🍞

[waxen comet]

hey i thought no bread for mods

[balmy bone]

THor's distracted

[jolly sky]

Thor isn't looking in this channel

[waxen comet]

THOR

LOOK

[astral crypt]

[waxen comet]

QUICK

[jolly sky]

I'ma sneak some bread to the mods, Splinter Cell style

[waxen comet]

THEYRE HANDING OUT BREAD

[jolly sky]

https://tenor.com/view/splinter-cell-ubisoft-sam-fisher-vexkin-tormod-gif-15108351

(This is me force feeding them bread)

[wicked schooner]

🍞 🍞🥖🥖🫓🫓

[balmy bone]

Shhh.... Keep it quiet

[waxen comet]

SHOUTS LOUDER

[jolly sky]

(They passed out from how delicious it was)

[fluid dome]

God I miss the shit out of splinter cell

[wind hare]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf71YotfykQ

[waxen comet]

does pizza count as bread

[balmy bone]

jesus christ, how strong is Mr Splinter?

[wind hare]

He's actually an SCP

[terse pelican]

Yes.

[balmy bone]

yep. that makes sense.

[fluid dome]

Remember when Ubisoft wasn't an ass company and had active IPs like splinter cell and rayman

[jolly sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjHlfsdeF0w

[worthy ivy]

I made it
and it is hillarious
but I'm not posting it - will get nuked because politics
so you'll have to make your own
but the juice is worth the squeeze 🙂

[balmy bone]

And Settlers, Man. Settlers.

[jolly sky]

I hated the Raving Rabbids era of Rayman

They're basically Minions before they existed

[fluid dome]

It was so bad dude

Bring back space pirates

And hoodlums

[jolly sky]

While the newer 2D raymans are pretty good, my favourite is still Rayman 3:Hoodlum Havoc

[glass gyro]

🍞

[jolly sky]

https://tenor.com/view/rayman-globox-plum-juice-drinking-gif-26463706

[fluid dome]

It's so good

[astral crypt]

omg I was worried something was going on hahaha

bread

[jolly sky]

Pictured, Globox getting drunk on Plum Juice

[astral crypt]

whispers: thank you

[fluid dome]

Rayman is at its best when you embrace the weirdness

[jolly sky]

Oh yea, and Rayman 3 got weird

[fluid dome]

The grind rail challenges were fun

https://tenor.com/view/rayman-globox-ubisoft-murfy-gif-274914279217139557

[jolly sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oluHsTd3tXI

Can't ignore the jams

[fluid dome]

Bring back platformer games that discourage being alive for no reason

[serene valley]

When I was little I got stuck for ages on the first puzzle where you had to curve the shots around the glass pane in Rayman 3

Couldn't figure out how to curve the fists

Or that I had to do that

A few years ago I replayed it and I got past it ez

Probably was related to my limited English tbh

[fluid dome]

I want more platformers that are obscenely difficult for no discernable reason and really easy randomly one time.

[fierce bison]

you want kaizo mario

[thorny kelp]

like meatboy and celeste?

[serene valley]

Yea sounds like kaizo mario

[jolly sky]

I Wanna Be The Guy

[fluid dome]

https://tenor.com/view/fogo-more-star-wars-gif-13624709056817377234

[golden latch]

Youd love the new croc legends of gobbos remake/port

[jolly sky]

https://tenor.com/view/game-nerd-rage-rage-angry-gif-3565497

[indigo wadi]

oh well, can't get on blockgame, will continue honsegirl game

[fluid dome]

You'd be surprised how good a lot of games are without a shithead in your ear telling you it's ass

[swift gulch]

One of my favorite memes from back during FFXIV Dawntrail's release

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1208803749678813216/1324557413197676640/w-expansion-v0-mn0sr9zr7ucd1.png?ex=68823bf8&is=6880ea78&hm=a7d4e96b025520d279c86029de202960de6eba231cfd4a8f611128900f754760&

[fluid dome]

Sonic games are actually fun if you actively ignore the community

[thorny kelp]

I just found a vtuber reacting live to a youtube video of the "downfall" of thor. This type of content is making it so easy to filter out people that have no critical thinking.

[fluid dome]

When drama occurs

[swift gulch]

"Do not recommend channel" button getting a workout

[thorny kelp]

Yes, indeed.

[winter sierra]

Ive only gotten one anti thor vid, a YouTube short

[swift gulch]

So I mentioned it somewhere in this server a few days ago, but
If you'd asked me two or three years ago, I would've said the FFXIV community was not only the best MMO community I've been in, but the best gaming community in general
I've realized since then that it was largely a byproduct of the game being in such a high state as it was in ShB and early Endwalker
Since then, post-Endwalker went on a relative decline, and Dawntrail got mixed reception
And the community ate itself alive just like any other

[golden latch]

Remembe when wow had Fenix fox people time sure moves forward

[fluid dome]

Unironically? We should bring back gatekeeping

[swift gulch]

Oh and my other favorite from that time

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/843970139107753984/1258825962347565118/image-37.png?ex=6881ba49&is=688068c9&hm=0560d9d4a31814710825002c5209c73696848b99f7fa73fbd6804af258aa2f4f&

[worthy ivy]

I want more platformers that are like OG Sonic
OG Sonic really spoiled me - everything feels slow and clunky after Sonic 2
once you go Sonic you never go back

[winged knoll]

All the rageeeeeeeee

[jolly sky]

Maybe not so much gatekeeping, but perhaps getting it in people's head that you can't make a game for everyone, because then it just vastly dissolves the games original ideas

[swift gulch]

I think a lot of it comes down to expectations

[jolly sky]

Going back I think dilutes* is a better word rather than dissolve

[swift gulch]

Jocat put it best in one of his FFXIV videos
Paraphrasing, but

I was going into the game wanting strawberry ice cream, and got a lemon-lime popsicle
It's not that I don't like lemon-lime popsicles, but it wasn't what I wanted, so I had a bad time
When I finally accepted that I wasn't getting strawberry ice cream, I started enjoying the popsicle for what it was and had a really good time with it

[jolly sky]

Sonic Mania was dope gotta say

[jolly sky]

That's a pretty good analogy to it I'd agree

[swift gulch]

It's why I always try to approach media on its own terms, and with as little expectations as possible

I've had some people tell me that's lowering my standards, and I really don't agree with that perspective

[fluid dome]

Sonic Mania is where I'd pinpoint the revolution beginning.

The revolution being when Sonic was starting to be well received again

[jolly sky]

Yea as I've gotten older, I've seen hype and expectations be the killer of enjoyment for games

[serene valley]

And then forces happened which sorta sucked a bit

Afaik

[jolly sky]

The more hyped up you get, the more you expect. And the more you expect, the less it will deliver

[swift gulch]

Wasn't Frontiers received well?

[fluid dome]

Sonic Movie 3 is the culmination of basically around half a decade's work of trying to redeem Sonic.

[jolly sky]

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-iffy-so-dr-cox-gif-24054477

[worthy ivy]

when I need a Sonic fix I just fire up the MegaDrive - forget nuSonic - join me in the 90s 🙂

Sonic 2 still looks glorious even today

[fluid dome]

After the boost era, opinion on Sonic was low. The upward trend began with Mania, the first movie, and then we kept getting bangers after bangers

[swift gulch]

Yeah, I honestly think a big part of Dawntrail's poor reception was about expectations
We'd just come off a massive high of Shadowbringers and Endwalker wrapping up the story that had been going since the start of the game, people had abandoned WoW to come over and try it, and the expectations had never been higher
But in my mind, we finished the story arc
They'd said that was a conclusion and everything after would be a fresh start and a new arc, so I was expecting lower stakes and a more chill/simple story, which is what we got
But others were expecting the same heights as Shadowbringers and Endwalker
Which was never going to happen
So they came away with a bad experience

[serene valley]

Sonic boom the TV series was low-key kinda funny tbh

[jolly sky]

Sonic A.I.R. (Angel Island Revisited) is a nice fan repackage of Sonic 3. Widescreen options, bunch of quality of life uogrades, unlockables and achievements etc

[fluid dome]

The Internet has a weird fixation on revisionism. 06 nearly killed the franchise and now people are acting like Frontiers is worse now that we have Unleashed Recompiled and P-06

[fluid dome]

The only thing I remember from boom was knuckles being confirmed as a feminist

[jolly sky]

Frontiers has some cool ideas, just wasn't really executed that well overall

[worthy ivy]

pretty sure I already got an OG copy of sonic 3 somewhere
haven't got Sonic&Knuckles tho 😦

[jolly sky]

Damn, so you can't recreate the Tower of Power :C

[fluid dome]

I unironically enjoyed Sonic Prime, I just wish Netflix didn't cut it into 3 seasons when it was actually intended as one

Also

Shadow Gens is goated

[fluid dome]

Hopefully we get a Frontiers style game with shadow

Hell

I'd take a remake of Shadow the Hedgehog in the Frontiers engine

[worthy ivy]

if I'm honest, I'd say Sonic 3 is a graphical downgrade from 2 - can't put my finger on it, but there's something that just doesn't quite click for me

[jolly sky]

I think its Sonics sprite, I did prefer 2's

[gloomy forge]

the live-support super stack on the megadrive will never not be funny, just stack add ons over add-ons

[worthy ivy]

plus Sonic 3 doesn't have the Chemical Plant Zone parallax bug where Sonic moves so fast the scrolling can't keep up with him

awesome stuff

[gloomy forge]

anyone remembers jazz jackrabbit?

[terse pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-27277116

[gloomy forge]

I mean Sonic 2 is older

[fluid dome]

My biggest gripe with the og resident evils coming to the PS+ catalogue in August is that GoG already beat them to the punch (tho from what I hear of other games GoG has, the porting to PC is ass specifically with classic tomb raider)

I just wish we were able to buy ps1 games on the PS+ store instead of downloading them

And tbh

[worthy ivy]

Daredevil Dennis anyone?

[fluid dome]

I may actually be tempted to go full on with making videos again if I can get my hands on re2 and 3

[gloomy forge]

ohhh I'd watch those.

[gloomy forge]

Who do you call oldge. i'm not old!
Hold up, gonna call my nurse because I need to go to the toilet.

[fluid dome]

I'm better with re2 and 3 than I am with 1 directors cut lmao

[gloomy forge]

re2 is a ton of fun.

[jolly sky]

https://tenor.com/view/dynamite-headdy-dynamite-heddy-platformer-sega-genesis-mega-drive-gif-3362930773542057785

[gloomy forge]

dunno if people think its the best resident evil but I love it.

[jolly sky]

Dynamite Headdy was an odd one for sure

And brutal hard

[fluid dome]

There's a lot of content for me to farm on that one. 4 playable scenarios and hunk and tofu

[gloomy forge]

yeah its one of those actual "obscure" games but its fantastic. Was made during the time were the "singleplayer team games" were popular. The Lost Vikings 1 and 2 were bangers too.

Trine later on as well.

[worthy ivy]

Lost Vikings kicked ultimate ass

[gloomy forge]

blackthorne still is blizzards best game to be honest, the level design was ultimately the best of all the prince of persia likes.

[fluid dome]

As much as I like the mercenaries mode as it is now in Resident Evil, I also wish they brought back the time attack version from og 3.

In that one, you play as a mercenary implanted with a bomb in your body, and killing enemies, rescuing survivors etc gets you Bonus time which is converted to points which you can spend on bonus weapons

Notice how there are no mtx

[hazy storm]

Hey chat i need a favor real quick

[gloomy forge]

warcraft 3 is close second though, phenomenal game but mostly because its comunity driven.

[hazy storm]

I don't have much time

[gloomy forge]

if you tell us to "take this package, don't ask questions." I'm not gonna do it.

[worthy ivy]

isn't asking questions about the contents of the package a breach of at least the spirit of rule 3?

[fluid dome]

Back on the code vein grind

[terse pelican]

https://x.com/immunedeficienC/status/1948051906116632690

Immune Deficiency Foundation (@immunedeficienC)

Thank you @ironmouse and community. 💙

X · Jul 23, 2025, 4:05 PM

[gloomy forge]

[winged knoll]

All i ever want in life is Xcom 3 made by the original Firaxis staffs

[winged knoll]

How’s block game fren

[gloomy forge]

Yeah mousey is one of the biggest but its usually Kanae who is bigger most of the time.

[vernal remnant]

Can someone catch me up on the vtuber stuff. Just tuned in and have no idea what's happening.

[gloomy forge]

I am busy drawing and looking up stuff.

[edgy oar]

Guys I made a mistake, I read the comments on Thor's post about supporting the IDF

[gloomy forge]

no blockgamu for me.

[winged knoll]

Lmao

[gloomy forge]

mousey is the biggest western twitch vtuber

[winged knoll]

Need something to cleanse your eyes?

[edgy oar]

Yes please

I witnessed people saying they won't support the IDF because Thor advertised it.

[serene valley]

What the hell

Stoopid people

[winged knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-software-ferret-gif-3470674042874450968

[winged knoll]

Lmao, hate for the sake of hate

[vernal remnant]

To google i go

[wicked schooner]

Ive seen a tweet saying they loved a game but since asmongold play it, they say its the most terrible game in the world

Internet people are dumb

[lyric venture]

THey wouldn't support it anyways, its just a reason to claim why they aren't

[edgy oar]

It's wild

[muted robin]

cut off your nose to spite your face ahh behavior

[terse pelican]

TLDR: VShojo didn't give the IDF money that was promised, and it turns out, they haven't paid some of the Talent they employed

[serene valley]

Damn I got a whole lot of games to not play now that we can't play games that people we don't like played

[edgy oar]

People can't think for themselves in this day and age and it's extremely sad.

[wispy plover]

If it’s any consolation, they weren’t gonna support it anyways. They just think this gives them e-points and a bigger epeen.

[lyric venture]

I am glad that something good has come out of the Ironmouse/Vshojo thing and IDF has gotten a boat load of support.

[winged knoll]

What is the point of epeen anyway

[serene valley]

Epeen measuring contest

[swift gulch]

I had to do a double take and scroll up a bit before I realized that IDF is just a very unfortunately coincidental acronym

[edgy oar]

It's funny because I got into WoW BECAUSE of Asmongold. Back when he mostly made that content.

[worthy ivy]

goddamnnit - that logic is so flawed it's actually broken my brain trying to shoehorn it in to analyse it - a double, triple and quadruple take later... it actually does say what I think it says...

... can we just agree it's all over and go back to eating our meat raw and living in trees?

[wicked schooner]

Yup

[rose echo]

What else can IDF stand for?

[terse pelican]

Lets go all caveman up in here

[wicked schooner]

Thats why id like to use the full name personally

[swift gulch]

Israeli Defense Force

[wind hare]

Modern politics. If you're not on my "team" then you are wrong

[hazy storm]

That says more about them than it says about thor

[lyric venture]

TIL

[wispy plover]

Idk what’s the point of bragging about your actual peen? It makes no sense either way, but yet insecure men do it all the time.

[swift gulch]

Yeah that's why I was like
"Wait since when is Thor in favor of Israel"

[muted robin]

clout

[terse pelican]

No, It's the Ironmouse Defense Force.

[worthy ivy]

epeen is important for balancing liquids

[rose echo]

So, help me understand something guys

[wind hare]

I think Epeen has turned into Aura Farming

[winged knoll]

Immune Deficiency Foundation

[winged knoll]

Negative aura, no rizz, skibidi

[rose echo]

From what I heard, Vshojo had not paid IDF what they had to for the previous cyclathon? What about this last one?
Or did someone just word it poorly and it meant the last one, a couple months ago?

[wispy plover]

That’s just the brainrot gooner version of it

[winged knoll]

Look at me learning all the lingo

[wind hare]

Thats what the kids are calling it, which means our lingo is now "old"

[edgy oar]

It was the last one I believe.

[winged knoll]

They also didn’t pay talents, cut staffs paid in half while claiming “everything for talents first”

[rose echo]

Also, what I'm confused about is - what's Vshojo's part in that whole scheme anyway? As far as my understanding went, the money went directly to IDF and not through any middlemen?

[worthy ivy]

why does my brain keep trying to make epeen a fencing term?

[wind hare]

Sounds like they did a Completionist and held the money before donating it

[wispy plover]

That’s not very skibidi.

[hazy storm]

Because epee is a fencing sword

[winged knoll]

Everything is alleged, but apparently they no longer have an active talents presenting their brand anymore, so it’s serious

[wicked schooner]

If you squint hard enough, it reads speen

[wind hare]

I think you can only write it off on taxes if you collect it first

[worthy ivy]

yes, just found this and realised I'm an idiot 🙂

[hazy storm]

And if you squint even MORE it reads Spleen

[winged knoll]

Money goes to Vshojo apparently

[rose echo]

I recall, distinctly, how Connor repeatedly said it went directly to them, and how he knew the people and it was safe and so on. Am I missing something?

[edgy oar]

Okay so. VShojo, along with most other vtuber agencies, typically handle the finances for all of their talent. Mouse uses tiltify yes but when it comes to the money earned from bits and subs through twitch, Vshojo handles that for Mouse.

[worthy ivy]

I got so much useless junk down there in long-term storage it's a miracle I remember anything

[rose echo]

Ohhh, okay, so they allegedly stole Mouse's donations from the stream, got it

[hazy storm]

I hear you

[earnest cove]

thihs is the purest form of 'virtue signalling'

[winged knoll]

Do a mind palace cleaning

[hazy storm]

And withheld her pay and multiple other vtubers

[rose echo]

Yeah, yeah, I got that already. I was just asking about the part I didn't get.

[hazy storm]

Oh sorry

I am a horrendously slow and inaccurate chatter on mobile

Like trying to play a mobile FPS

[worthy ivy]

usually I just send a query down there and it comes back at some point later (usually less than an hour so but always when I'm right in the middle of something else)

I had to do a manual retrieval the other day because I was in a hurry... it was a complete mess down there - no organisation at all, everything just all piled up in unlabelled bins

[terse pelican]

I got discord on my phone to read, but Never respond, It's just oo JANK

[dusky grove]

I assume its a similar situation to thor's tts.

Money is initially with them for the duration of the event, then they should have donated it all at once. Instead of having multiple small donations

[earnest cove]

i realised my friend called thor 'jason' ever since skg.................

she's bought so deep into the narrative

[gloomy forge]

And thats fine, everyone has their own feelings to the matter.

Its really easy to fall into the narrative if you don't have an opinion about it and watch youtube.

[earnest cove]

i just find Thor easier to spell and remember in a sea of other JAsons

[dusky grove]

Are they willing to listen to thor's side or are they ostritching?

[lyric venture]

I also find it odd. Thor calls himself Thor. Why insist on using Jason other than to be a pita?

[wind hare]

I mean there is only so far you can go with "everyone has an opinion", when they are supporting people who are actively trying to harm people

[edgy oar]

Cuz they wanna be an ass

[fierce bison]

it's more like people have a natural desire to fit in, so they don't "want" to find the truth, if the truth goes against the approved popular narrative

[muted robin]

people can't do basic fact checking, whether it be clicking a single link to the Make Games website where he gives his full legal name or watching any of the various videos/clips where he explains it

[hasty grail]

or using Thor's old username

[muted robin]

because they literally think Thor is a fake name he uses to sound cool and not his literal legal middle name

[rose echo]

So just to make sure I fully understand it. Money went from people to tiltify, then to vshojo, and then didn't proceed to IDF, where it was supposed to go?

[lapis tartan]

Some don't even bother to fact check, they just want a hate fad to jump on.

[wind hare]

Even if it was "fake", no one here is using their real name

[lyric venture]

So what? Even if it was a "fake" nickname. Heres a secret, Gizmo is not my real name either ;p But I do have people IRL that call me that cause I have used that for 20+ years.

[wind hare]

no one on twitch has their real name most of the time

[flint sinew]

[muted robin]

and also bc for some reason people online really like to use your real name and/or any of your past aliases to refer to you to try to intimidate, basically to go "i know who you really are, i have so much information on you"

[hasty grail]

oh crap, theres a mod

[muted robin]

even tho again, thor has a lot of this info publicly available

[hasty grail]

post bread to distract them

[muted robin]

very silly

[dusky grove]

Emphasis on the word assumption. And like someone else said, tiltify doesnt work on other forms of money like bits and subs and the like

[flint sinew]

just wondering what we're discussing now

[earnest cove]

she heard my explanations but i'm not sure she accepted it

[lyric venture]

You know, I wish people would stop posting bread. I love bread, and right now have none.

[rose echo]

So it's not just the bits and subs, but it's also the big tiltify dono?

[fierce bison]

lovely bread

[winged knoll]

Fine bread ser ma’am, fine bread

[fierce bison]

exactly, just types of bread

[flint sinew]

i'm no lady

[gloomy forge]

I'd do this:

1. Have a normal conversation about your hobbies, bring up piratesoftware when there is a link between the hobby. Don't talk to your friend in a "how dare you way".
2. Ask your friend what he/she thinks of piratesoftware.
3. If there is a problem explain that the stuff your friend thinks they know isn't true.
4. very important. be holistic about the thing, don't make it about "us vs them" but rather explain how youtube can be used by people who don't do research, a lot of this is based on what can mostly be considered misinformation.
5. Give examples like "Thor still has 5k viewers when he codes, similar to before the drama he also had 5k viewers when he codes, not much changed."

Remember, the same mechanisms people watch content apply to everyone. In one way or the other we've all been brainwashed by nonsense online. Just don't be a cult . I also talked to two people who, like me before, one of them jumped off the hate train as well.

[wicked schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/falling-toast-live-toast-reaction-toast-dies-gif-7238761997416289033

[dusky grove]

Well, if theres 1 thing to learn from this fiasco. People are allowed to have oppinions, even when we disagree

[earnest cove]

what talking about?
for me, my personal sadness about my friend. to see her so easily swayed

[gloomy forge]

Just be levelheaded and relax

[worthy ivy]

hairstyles in the 1970s 🙂

[flint sinew]

[winged knoll]

Hmm i have a vtubing fren group and i brought it up in a debate, most people in my group dislike Thor based on his personality and i can’t convince them otherwise, but i refuted the rest of the other claims, so there’s that

[winged knoll]

They are not gonna mentions Thor on stream, but still make fun of him sometimes

[rose echo]

Could someone confirm or deny? At least as far as we publicly know

[gloomy forge]

And thats fine, its not hostility to make a joke. Remember Cohh does the same but hes a good dude. Good people know when to not overdo things.

[earnest cove]

oh i already done this before. that convo ended okay or so i thought. then i noticed she never used the name thor again and it's jason so i guess it's just go in ear go out other ear.

[wind hare]

No, because they know how bad it is and are placating their viewers. it is just as bad to keep this going and not calling it out.

[lapis tartan]

The tragedy is some of the people falling for the drama slop are victims too.

[gloomy forge]

Yeah thats fine, always remember that most of this is inconsequential for the average viewer. Just stay friends

[gloomy forge]

Depends on the context to be honest. Again, going full defense us vs them is a way bigger issue.

[winged osprey]

In my mind, I've already connected dunkey as the e-celeb named "Jason"

No room for Thor to be there as well

[gloomy forge]

I always associate Jason with the letter "x".

[earnest cove]

ironmouse update:

[gloomy forge]

because you have to press x to jason

[earnest cove]

i'm hoping it hits 1.03 mil

[wind hare]

Its not going full defense. It's acting like adults who can move past a topic if it will cause more harm. They are adults who run a podcast and should know what they are effecting when they continuely bring up a topic

[winged osprey]

I thought that was Shaun

[hasty grail]

https://tenor.com/view/forsaken-forsaken-roblox-jason-forsaken-vip-jason-chinese-takeout-gif-4924674236570094372

someone say Jason?

[winged osprey]

SHAAAUUN

[gloomy forge]

Yes, but there is a degree of consequence. And Cohh doesn't do jokes when he knows that the consequences may be severe for the victim.

[wind hare]

He litterally does and knows what hes doing

[hasty grail]

back up

was it a one off joke and nothing more since?

[gloomy forge]

Eh, thats fine if you think this way. If you disagree with Cohh, dont support him

[wind hare]

I stopped

[gloomy forge]

Yeah there were a few jabs here and there but thats it.

[hasty grail]

i dsagree with Thor and i support him

[hasty grail]

if hes moved on from it then we should as well

[gloomy forge]

Obviously yes, I just bought it up because I thought it was ok when peepo talk about the topic right now. Nothing bad about it.

[fierce bison]

Fully agreed, and other streamers do this too, like Tectone and Asmon, just casually making fun of Thor knowing full well it's just spreading misinformation. Well, they somehow convinced themselves that the information is "true", just because of where they stand on certain matters, and neglect to look further into issues

it's outright rekless

which is sad because i used to have more respect for tekkie and asmon but now after this idk

[gloomy forge]

I feel it should be mod law to force people to give each other hugs whenever theres disagrerements because people still are a bit sad about the whole situation or that it forces people to not talk about it because noone wants sweaty hugs from sweaty chatters.

[hasty grail]

i have mixed opinions on Asmon as a whole

[earnest cove]

Asmongold won't have time to do any more research. his father just confirmed to have pancreatic cancer

[hasty grail]

oh fun

i hope his father pulls through

[terse pelican]

That's rough.

[fierce bison]

yeah that was sad news i knew something was wrong when he wasn't online for 3 days

[earnest cove]

when the skg drama dropped his father was already hospitalised for pneumonia so really don't expect effort from him, as all that effort should rightfully go to his dad

It's sad that the timing was so bad

[fierce bison]

idk if that's a legitimate excuse though idk

it's no excuse to just drag someone down because you are suffering

[wind hare]

It's very easy to not say anything if you don't have time to look into it and get thousands of views on your opinion