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If it adds to the conversation and it's not solely for the sake of drama, ye, I suppose
Nah, you're trying to force drama.
how would someone get dms between khronos and thor?
Can I post the thingy or not. <@&1205964292151713792>
Someone found it in the hypetrain VOD
If this is true, and that's a big if, it's against twitch ToS. But there's so much doctored shit around I'd be surprised if this isn't two fake accounts talking to each other to spur drama, or Photoshop
That's the most ludacris claim I've ever heard. There are MANY MANY MANY donators. To assume that they are mods on alts is LEGITIMATELY WILD.
It was up on the screen for a bit, And I 100% Bet it was done as a joke
No, they didn't. The vod doesn't exist.

big scoops
They wouldn't. Thor and Khronos most likely have their discords on security lockdown.
According to the screenshot, Thor had Discord up on stream for a bit
Can you show where it says it's against Twitch ToS ?
Well I did ask ZeroDin if he thinks its by AI. ZeroDin has seen the VOD
I got the clip sent to me which i could post here.
I didn't specify that it was by AI. I said it's hard to say
@rose dawn there is a lot of messages and I can't follow it correctly, would you kindly summarize the topic for me?
@opaque raven
I've done nothing wrong. I'm concerned man. Do NOT attack me.
🦭
You are not concerned. You are trying to force drama. Knock it off.

Dude. When Thor sees my DM on my main and that I'm one of his biggest donors, you are going to eat your words. Please stop
Sure but I need like 15 minutes cos phone posting is annoying
nah he just trying to know is real or not
No worries, It's no rush
why tf are we back on this
I don't care if you're the biggest donor. You are forcing drama. Stop.
Don’t want to disregard your emotions, but i think Thor planned to break the hypetrain records previously
He has communicated with everyone here, on public channel #news message
So efforts and coordinating attempts were made, make sense to have backup plan
Either way, even if this is true, you have the right to be emotional about it, but you also need to find out why you are, and if its even worth it.
Especially over such a small percentage of the total of the hype train amount.
this was the first one we did
Excuse me, I think it's okay for me to talk about this, the fact I felt I had to go on an alt to do so... Is bad enough in itself. Please back off
That in itself is sus
now you're snapping at me. I don't care what you think, insinuating that the mods, Thor, or Khronos were trying to fabricate hype on Thor's birthday after he'd been up for 24hrs is ridiculous. He already has a personal rule where if there is a hype train going, he is not allowed to end the stream.
Oh...I suppose people are again trying to find another crack, is that it?
The fact that you're doing it on a new account just proves that you're just a troll forcing drama. You've proven nothing by doing this on a new account.
Guys, chill
Why would you have a problem talking about it on your main?
Please do. I will not post it
Yes, and for the most irrelevant bullshit possible
well from the screnshoot it may be the second one

I think that speaks for itself. Look at how I'm being attacked
Thank god I did make an alt
Ya know what? If it's truly an issue, log a mod ticket
Not on his Birthday, but the Hype Train Record
otherwise, stop forcing drama
Yeah, i mean its also 16 months ago or so? Its legit to be concerned and worried. mods should handle it IMHO.
Not the hype train yesterday, but a different one?
That's even worse
Yeah, April 1st
jfc
this year
The chatter only wants closure, thats all there is to it.
I think maybe of last year? Not sure on that one
Well I'm bowing out since its another, really inconsequential thing to me personally to get worked up over. Like on the grand scale of things, its just really nothing.
im guessing its the one from this year considering dune, which didnt even break the record 
I would strongly suggest you all take at least a 10min break from this topic and change the subject
It's getting a little heated
You can ofc came back to it later ☀️
Just my take, Mods are not gonna throw thousands of $$$ on a hypetrain to help break a world record, or w/e it is you're "concerned" about.
This is literally a non-issue
I think the issue were you are pressing on the same talking points while we have already addressed some possible scenarios
yea, okay chat, best plane?
Pretty sure Thor gives them the money. But have no proof of
he pays them to do a job.
Not mods as a whole, just Khronos
And given that he followed up the dono in the screenshot with "Don't tell the mods", my guess is that it was a surprise/gift to the other mods, since they were getting a revenue cut from the train
I'd like to talk about it from my perspective
pretty sure it just a lead mod and streamer contribution
If he didn’t, mods would have speak up
I meant to do the hypetrain stuff. Rebates after the fact
Once is enough imo
EVEN if Khronos did that, SO WHAT? That's on Khronos and his willingness. Again, What is the issue? I really don't get it.
Thor has openly stated in the past on the hype trains on how they were distributed.
@indigo wadi Trying to DM you but need to accept FQ
Not a clue, really
Just seems like concern trolling to me

Ive no reason to accept your FQ.
Ohh, sorry for being misinformed then. If there is a problem, just let mods handle the situation. Besides that, everyone that gifts subs or spends bits should do it responsibly so. Nobody is forced to gift subs.
I'm sure there are more entertaining and fulfilling things to be doing with your time.
Brazilian Hercules always looked really cool to me
I just finished a session of Lie of P
And thinking of all the recent kobo propaganda
i mean, they kind of planned to break a record .. so you would prep for that i assume, its not organic if you try to do it specifically .. i thought the assignment was clear if you donated money on it .. why is that a problem? i fail to understand
Also oyu can send me message without a FQ.

kobold propaganda is good. You should support the kobolds.
Hell ye!!
Wait...is that good? I never played Lies of P
Just be excellent to each other 
It wasn't exactly organic when the previous hypetrain world record had a sponsor help with the donos (imo at least), but the world record was still broken.
I disapprove of this message, Kobo suck ballz

you shall face retribution.
language Hellscream xP

with how many more levels were achieved, I can only assume that they wouldve at least tied IMO
Okay since nobody wants to post it, I will post it. I do not know if its real. I have asked if we can look into feeding it into AI to see if the AI can trace if it's been doctored with AI (who better to look at it than the AI that possibly doctored it?). If anyone has any info of how we can do this, please let me know. Again, I do not KNOW if its real. But I am concerned and it has not been addressed as of yet. I feel like this is the appropriate channel for it
kobo detected
about what train are you talking about now?
well hellscream said kobo 
If I'm banned, then that is totally inappropriate.
Don't say this
Look at this cute little face
Nothing, as we don't know if its real
you are being actively unbearable.
again, forcing drama where none exists
Again, even if it's real, so what?
are we still on the nothing burger?
Remember how Thor ALWAYS tells you to be skeptical, Even more-so on April 1st?
True. I keep repeating this to myself in my head
Yeah this feels more and more like one of those ''April Fools day'' Memes
there was a clip but was deleted
yeah thats this years stream, which didnt even break the record that vedal set 
I hope so
nothing is true on april fools day
are we ready to move on from this silliness?
AS i stated in our DM's You clearly have made your opinion and are hard to persuade otherwise. Agree to disagree. Make your choice on it nad move on.
The worst case scenario from the evidence given is
Thor and Khronos donated to the hype train themselves
So?
Record or no record. I still donated a large amount under the precedent it was an organic thing
My dude there were announcements in the Discord about it
Nothing about it was "organic", it wasn't spur of the moment
you cannot fake a hypetrain
It was a planned event
People are just so worked up from Thor paying his moderators
I think we should stop using the word Organic in this context
Organic being done by members themselves and not the stream/mods.
It was a planned attempt.
You were right to ask, it doesn't violate ToS. It violates Community Guidelines. I am not sure how those two operate together.
It's not outright stated, but there's two pieces of information regarding hype trains:
A creator's donos (so if they gift subs to their audience, for instance) does not influence hype trains. Only from viewers.
And from the Community Guidelines: "For example, you may not:
[...]
"Engage in viewership tampering (such as artificially inflating follow or live viewer stats)"
https://safety.twitch.tv/s/article/Community-Guidelines?language=en_US
I'm not saying Thor did any of this, just answering your question
it...does...not...matter...move...on
you can plan it but its still on the community to feed it
Who are you to tell me what matters to me or doesn't?
Was making hot dogs
why are you guys still feeding this guy.
you're forcing drama on a non-issue
I need to find a Kobold vtuber to promote my propaganda ideas
Success is not measure in outcomes, it's measured in effort
And I find it delicious
he's just invested
and I find it disrespectful to force drama where none exists
if the issue is because you feel scammed for jumping in on the hype train, I'm gonna say that's on you
exactly, no one forces you to donate
It's an issue to me
Possibly, but its a bit underhand tactics isn't it
I was naive, correct
Y'all can bite me muh hotdogs are delicious
why is this non-issue and "issue" to you?
no, it's not underhanded at all
A planned fundraising event. the planner wanted to secretly give money to the mods aside from the fundraising goal of giving half to the mods already. there really should be nothing to talk about here
I don't bite people, I bite food.
i have seen the vid and even assuming its real i dont understand
All donations go to thor, which gets spread around to the mods and other areas of Thors' business
at this point agreeing to disagree and moving on is the best outcome for both sides
Sealions
Yeah I'm also quite curious, I came into this place and the first 5 minutes I thought people were just joking.
Donated a large sum under the precedent the hype train was organic when these revelations show (if they're real) that it was doctored and propped up by alt accounts empowered by Thor's own funds in the goal of keeping it running to then get more people to donate for more revenue
I would die eating something like this
My diet is like, fruits, rice, beans, beef, homemade stuff
Someone seems to think that just bc thor/khronos may have donated some subs during a hype train that somehow invalidates the vast majority that was by viewers
Your concern should be "did my donation get to Thor?" and nothing more. Anything beyond that just comes off as narcassistic imo
You have no evidence that it was Thor's funds given to Khronos
but it is a attempt to reach a high record that many people did try to contribute to reach
This is completely mental
Mine is the same but I wanted to treat myself
At the moment all we know is that Khronos donated a bunch on an alt
Immediately after donating even more on his main
There was a time i could pop in here to chat and have discussions that weren't based on drama.
Good times
We have no evidence that Khronos donated to the stream to begin with
The dumbest "rationalization" I've ever heard.
Unless someone has Khronos bank acount details
hold up, thats is not what the video shows? it shows khronos doing it, not thor in any way
Did you see the VOD? It's evidence but not been confirmed yet
less than 5% was from thor/khronos and they still complain
This would make me explode. Fried breaded cheese with angry sauce
No, what's mental is you forcing drama where none is based off your "reasoning".
besides being there in person i dont recall that discord pop up.
Please just stop
"Have you bought any yet?"
I love indian chili sauce dip: https://thesassyfoodie.com/indian-chili-garlic-sauce/
Someone seems to think that just bc thor/khronos may have donated some subs during a hype train that somehow invalidates the vast majority that was by viewers
Wait, so they did donate subs to their own hype train!?
And if this is the April 1st hypetrain? It's ALWAYS a planned event to try and record break. It's been a yearly thing for awhile now.
Melon, I'm just going to propose something, do you even know how much (if any) of the subs were done by thor/khronos in relation? Bc I'm going to be real calling something "manufactured" and feeling cheated off what could be a minuscule portion of the overall stream is.... I don't really want to put a word for it but it seems like literally making a mountain out of a mole hill
If you're a long time sub, you would know this.
Yes but so does every damn streamer on the platform
I fail as an Asian. I can't eat that spicy stuff. Give me the cheese fingers any day
And also invalidating the other hundreds of viewers and the thousands they donated
I am sooooo weak to chilli and strong spices that even some Cheetos are too strong for me
Dude even spicy kfc is too much for me
Which is why it comes off as narcassitic to me.
Yeah always eat spicey stuff in moderation
especially if you're not accustumed to that kinda stuff.
Anyways, I said my piece. I'm gonna bowout before I get anymore jerkface.
Also the "doctored and propped up by alt accounts" is very disingenuous wording
Don't use narcissist as a random insult online + they seem genuine, just anxious
the total bits given that stream was 1.532 mil. the donation from khronos alt is 3% of that
The only spicy stuff i can tolerate is kimchi. Soooo goood
I never went to KFC
We had it here until last year but they all closed since, iirc, they failed repeatedly some health/safety tests
Yeah true kimchi is goated.
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Not to me they don't. They're trying to force drama surrounding their own donos to try and come-off as self-important and put down the donos of others.
That meat is a jerk ban eet
oh don't tease me with food lol
corrected my number
Oh no way? Where do you live

with actual numbers its even more of a nothing burger
Who kept me alive when I burned the midnight oil
Lmao wth is that
literally a drop in the bucket of donations
Bruh I'm about to sleep now I'm hungry
I laugh because its genius
toad in the hole, yes thats the name
There's no stronger, heartier food than some crispy burritos to keep your energy stocks up
How do you even eat that?
Toad in the hole?? Cool name
Toad the the Hole.....
Toad in the hole and pigs in blankets is so good
My favourite meal
and spotted dick for dessert
Never had it
Why don't we have pigs in the hole and toads in blanket?
Like, to my eyes, taking those numbers into account and thinking that the train was "doctored and propped up" is wholly making a mountain out of a molehill
Looks like fruit cake
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I just discovered this. Its tomato not spices
Pretty sure it's expired at this point
lol
Well this is news to me. But assuming this is true - how do you know that's the only alt account that dono'd?
Tomato eggs and a while bunch of other veggies
but its only 1638
I swear UK food names are wild
In a city I used to live in, there was a KFC that refused to close even when it had an active sewege leak
As a result, I've never gone to one since
As a rough translation this is called
Baker's Red Eye
Sorry to start that long ass convo guys and it isn't meant to be forced drama like one user said. Genuine concern.
DId you know they have like 50 names for bread and 20 for cookies?
Isnt that just a Danish
Ewww
Is one of them greggs?
A roll as in sausage roll is one yes
And I shut down my kitchen over not having hot water, still get wrote up for it lmfao
You have bap, cob, batch, barm, bun, teacake, muffin and roll (those ar the ones I remember)
It's not at all a problem my friend! Just chill for some time and we can ofc come back to it later, let it settle and cool down for a now ☀️
Then, like I said earlier, you have the right to be concerned or emotional, but you need to find out why. Cause getting concerned over 3% of the entire trains worth of donations is, well going overboard to say the least
And for cookies you have digestive, hobnob, custard cream, bourbon, shortread, garibaldi, malted minlk and that's what i remember
in fruture if you have concerns you can always raise a mod ticket #mod-ticket
cob? I thought thats for corn
I can only understand 3 if those names lol
This is a cob loaf
Hobnobs are brilliant
ngl craving some nando's now
So, do they actually having differing characteristics or is just dependant on the area in the UK where they are called?
This is called ensaymada
I don't want to reopen this argument but I do want to point out that there's two components to a hype train: volume, and timing.
Small amounts might not be a big fraction overall, but they could be crucial in terms of timing to sustain a hype train. Take them away and it's not a hype train record, it's just regular high volume donations.
Yes
Yeah the bacon could've been crispier
Yeah legit, when I came to this place I actually was confused what a mod ticket is but I understand the validity now. I feel the modteam take their job seriously too. Maybe its best to just wait what Khronos has to say if he feels like speaking about it.
The last piece of bacon was extra crispy and it was a proper goodbye to the hot dawg
Ye, it got known as Danish Pastry or just Danish. Ofc we don't call it like that, they are called Spandauers or Wienebrøds
I already made soup 
add bacon to the soup
Ya cook?
soup with carlic, paprika, some cucumber. sidedish is cheese and some bread.

I used to add crispy bacon to stew so it disintegrates and the soup gets baconer
The baconest
Must be rich with all the money you saved from cooking
tomato soup with garlic bread is basically a liquid pizza
This aligns with my concern. The train would have ended and I probably wouldn't have donated a bunch lmao
yes I cook, almost all my meals are cooked. But every few weeks I order doordash just for funsies because its good stuff.
speaking of bacon and bread, morning bacon butty with hash brown and brown sauce 😋

When I was dirt poor as a kid mum would make like four slices of bread wth tomato paste and cheap cheese on the microwave
Mini pizzas
Canadian bacon is a lot thicker than regular rashes
tommorow I eat Gyros with rice, french fries I made myself with a nice salad I als made myself
gonna eat like a king.
Cheat the system, order ingredients and batch cook
Just watch the CBT-W Show. 
Then each meal is takeway from your fridge
yea but why wouldnt you do that if you want to break a record and announce that as your goal? and if you are concerned that you didnt buy that much .. thats exactly what hype trains are for .. to get you to spend more money .. thats why i think hype trains are kinda weird, but they work for exactly that purpose
Ive been ignoring soups for my whole life until 2 weeks ago when I had to stay 3 days in the hospital and had amazing meals, including a tomato soup
Cooking by Thor?
cooking takes like 50 min to an hour though 
And Winky
Teacakes and Muffins are completely seperate
MAAAN
good hospital food?!?!?!
Toasted teacakes are food crack
I'd buy a box and promise myself to eat only one for tea
when they are organic, they are cool. It's the viewers banding together
Nope
Yea I'm a much bigger fan of thicker bacon than streaky thin bacon that I see a lot in America
Lies and gluttony
Was just explaining the perspective, I don't really think any major streamer has big hype trains that fit the purest definition of organic and I don't think it really matters
edit: though I guess arguably it does matter if not everyone contributing understand this dynamic
IT wassn't ''Organic'' Because it was Planned. Everyone knew it was going to happen
back when i was 6 and had a head gash sewn up after surgry i was craving toast so much i ate a whole half load of it
Canadian bacon here isn't even pork
It's organic if its just the viewers. I was aware it was going to happen. Just not be propped up in the way it was (apparently)
yea sure if you want to see it that way, but this specific hype train had a set date and was meant to break a record .. so nothing about that is organic right? if thats your problem in of itself you shouldnt have donated in the first place i think? wait for normal hype trains
That's why I get bacon from the butcher
@rose dawn Let's look at this logically:
1: You claim to be a big time dono/long time dono.
2: You did a big dono on April 1st Hypetrain worldbreaking attempt
3: You believe the Hypetrain to not be ogranic/supported by only mods/Khronos.
4: Your evidence is a 10 second snippet that contains a DM from Khronos, which may not even be related to the hypetrain.
5: You somehow thinks this devalues your own dono.
6: 2024s hypetrain, which broke the record at Lv 106, I calculated to be over $400k USD, and that's assuming ONLY Tier 1 subs & bits.
So tell me again how you believe that the mods/Khronos mainly supported the 2025 hypetrain when the monetary value of the April 1st hypetrains go well beyond 100k?
In my country in some areas, they use the same word to say cookie (or biscuit if youre UK) to say bread
''Just the viewers'' so Mods can't support the Streamer either? So cut out a few of the ''viewers'' cause they're just a bit more involved?
Sooooo good
The few times I went to the hospital here I always had a great time
The nature of the hype train is that it runs out, it can be propped up with well timed donations. If it wasn't they normally end, sooner. The fact it was done behind our backs, is what I am NOT happy about,
what country are you in?, here NHS is kind of known for bland food (saying that as a son of a doctor and a nurse)
Btw lemme give you my two cents as someone who isn't, like, a cultist follower of Thor. Just a regular dude who likes the community.
If you're talking about the same screenshot I just saw (feel free to DM it to me), there's only two ways that coudl've been acquired:
- Either Thor or Kronos leaked it
- Someone who was watching Kronos' screen and happened to see the conversation leaked it
I think they are very unlikely to be true if you compare the recent troubles, they were probably doctored. It's more likely the hype train just did its thing than to stand on flimsy evidence
The VOD has also been posted
So what if it was?
who has the hearbound psp thing
Nothing was done behind anyones back.
Guys let’s move on from the convo
@rose dawn you should log in a mod message
Also the “drama” part is there’s a large group of slop tubers watching this channel for content, you are inadvertently giving them content for more drama on Thor
What your proposing, is some kind of drama, which you are trying to force. This is why I don't believe you're doing this in good faith. You're trying to force an issue where there isn't any.

Because I was donoing under the idea that I was banded together with the viewers to support something/the people we appreciate. But in reality it would have already been over by the time I probably tuned into the stream... (if the accusations are real)
You need to stop attacking me, dude.
Very north of dnk
You said this at least 3 times at this point kek
Literally, EVERYONE banded together. It's not soley a you thing. Literally hundreds of viewers donated.
Let's talk about food instead
Sure
Yesh, food plz
@indigo wadi you should read your dm
The large hypetrains have proven that Twitchs' API is funky at extremely high levels
Can you help explain what's going on here please.
Nah, I've said my piece, I'm stepping out.
Just log a ticket to mod
I agree with Hellscream
I got stuff to go do anyways.
looking in and out of this chat all i see is something something fabricated hypetrain something
can't be bothered to verify or falsify tbh
@ionic sleet Uncalled for.
We also have happy sockets that wink at you 😄
I really need to identify when my jimmies get rustled.
Did we have another rumor come out of the woodwork?
Omg imagine stepping on the plug
a no big deal one
Speaking of which UK plugs are caltrops
Yeah, Thor secretly remade Hearthbound in Java
and these
bumper train
I'm glad no mod sent me a dm
I will rue the day when I hear knocking on my door just to see a guy with a cat say "Thor sends his regards. Bailey, you know what to do."
java dev confirmed xD also much worse than the hypetrain nonsense xD
I mean, consider that Legos are from here so imagine that we ready take a lot of care where we step, on a national level
"Patch me to the CO, I stepped on a lego UK plug, need an evac"
Thats even worse
Bailey shows no mercy
We need a meatball cam the way Bailey gets one

ye.
@flint sinew have I broken any rules? I don't want to start a mod ticket just to ask this
Designed specifically because its very safe due to its design and due to UK electrical wiring in the houses themselves
I haven't yet been active enough to distinguish the mods. To me they all look like Àdeptus Custodes marching in with their pikes
Just the idea that someone thinks that the hypetrain was "faked" when hundreds of thousands of dollars were thrown at it just...boggles my mind.
There are 3 types of trains here
- normal - they stop at all train stations and cities
- fast - they only stop at few big cities
- ultra fast - ftl insane Tokyo drift speed running the whole country
How about the ones that do multi track drifting?
Excuse me?
Tell that to my weary podiatrist
My favorite mod so far is Petite Jambon
You dont know the meme?
Sorry no
The one about Moral test
makes me wanna listen to "no one sleep in tokyo" 
Where you have choice to kill 5 people or switch the track to only kill 1 people
yep i know then
RE
IC
ICL
... so you kill everyone???
Thats a weird way to spell recycle
Someone made a multi track drifting video game btw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obNHs2zICew
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Okay trains are cool, but you know what’s cooler? Boats
the only good answer to the trolley problem 
Lmfao wut
they're still posting the bashing... and more angry children will flood the chat next stream.
It’s a joke answer for a hypothetical problem
gatcha box version lol
Childish behavior
Yeah i get the joke now. The internet never fails to surprise me
Ive seen this in my feed, already set to not recommend
Yeee!!!!
Wait, are you also dnsk?
Everyone wants their 5 minutes of fame
no, british but like to take interrail trips
Okay, cool, but we don't need to know about it. We don't need to know about every video that gets posted.
praise be seat61
see the good side of that. More requests for the khronos unban bingo.
5 MONETIZABLE minutes of fame
5 minutes of flame.
i mean the longer the drama goes on the worse the videos will get
because im arguing with some people about it in another discord, what was the offical word on the police reports for the swatting attempt
drama WILL eventually die out. We've already seen evidence of anti-thor ppl getting tired of the videos
who would even know that lol
what? How would we know that?
because a SidAlpha is trying to prove that the attempts never happened
Just like AI slop
dumber and dumber people will catch on to whats being said and will try to parrot it without thinking about it. Personally I believe PS is not above criticism, but that criticism has long been levied and has now been warped into something completely foreign
how xD this is all so dumb xD
Thor isn't going to lie about the swatting attempts. Stop feeding into their nonsense. It's not worth paying attention to.
slightly related, but people are under this weird assumption that people who can do programming are smart
why tf are they doubting someone saying they got swatted
and they will come here, parrot it, then get banned and it'll be like they never existed.
especially during whats going on
boy who cried wolf, thor is a liar for the context of what is being argued
Need to write full sentences ser or friendly fire

''Guilty untill proven innocent''

better
I don't see how they could find out short of asking the local cops. And that will put the questioner on their radar
Damn, that dude really fell off, he used to be a big anti-swatting advocate
Playing devil's advocate - Thor has stated before about the security methods he's implemented with his bank, and especially being a streamer, one would assume he's already contacted local authorities and explained the situation beforehand as most streamers with a large following would do.
I don't know how Police Reports work, Let alone in the state Thor is in
Shoot 
hes said hes done both

nah
but... someone attempted
but they still have to investigate
Then it would not be far off to assume that he was not actually swatted.
I'm a professional.
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He said the last attempt was done over voip
I actually have a question about swatting
Is this a new thing or has this been happening for some time? Kids calling the police and etc
Proof of why they aren't lmao
better to know where the enemies come from than to be caught blinsided. like people kept talking about 'mujin' video' and I was like "????'
its been a thing for a while
Investigation =! Breaking down doors and pointing guns at streamer man
its also a federal crime
at least a decade
Once they got requested they still have to investigate
It's happened for as long as Online Gaming has been a thing
Has any reasonable counter measure been tested?
Even if he told the police who he was they still gotta show up to make sure everything's chill
"it quite literally means he's being dishonest. claiming every month while it's not every month it's objectively false"
ow my head
Thor has not claimed that he has gun pointed at his heads
unfortunately they (ie: Police) cannot be proactive about it. they have to investigate
contact the local police department so instead of getting a swat squad you get a few police offiecers to check sitatuation by law they have to investigate
Yes, they HAVE to regardless. They can't say "no" to a Swat call.
ok? i mean if thats what they want to proof ok? xD
That kind of attempt is
- Still illegal
- Intention is still to harm Thor physically
They can literate see him on stream
"I was swatted" implies actually being swatted
I was thinking of a solution on the police's side
One of the arguments is that if he really got swatted we'd see it on stream
I wouldn't consider that sufficient evidence, But yeah
and since we neve rsee it happen on stream = no swat
I'm a strongly assuming that swatting is a crime
or so they claim
there is no solution its a flaw of the system
Police 'should' show up and talk at least
and its not local police who actually get the call, thats central dispatch who will pass on request to local who will know of him
the call of the swat happened. This is playing semantics
Semantic
It absolutely is yes.
yes us courts have deemed it murder and attempted murder.
Not when they swat him while he's offline 
Seriously, stop. Think about what you are saying and actually take a moment and go "Hm... what are the implications of what I'm actually saying."
they = police here
10000% crime
Semantics are important when it comes to crimes
a federal one at that
I mean it is, but the question is whether its a crime that the police will investigate
Yeah I know, But what I mean is that they should still show up and talk, Just not go in Guns Blazing
a false call to swatt someone IS a crime my friend, whether they came in guns blazing or just investigated
once the call is made, that = swatting
but arent the actions of someone attempting to swat = a crime
Calling police to check on people for crime that did not happen is swatting
It is.
they may just call Thor since they have his info
Also this
Yeah, that's also an option
i guess they could be more wary about it if it comes over VOIP but because its something thats relatively fairly new there arent good countermeasures for it other than being aware
Luswig was also swatted
The implications of what I'm actually saying. I'm outright stating he wasn't swatted. An attempt was made but nobody has their doors broken down and guns pointed at them. You could call it an unsuccessful swatting, or a swatting attempt, but he wasn't actually swatted.
heres what you can be charged with for swatting in the US
If they are shitty cops they will not show up and just call. I don't know of anyone who would risk being fired over not showing up incase something is going on
attempt or not
he was as per definition
It sucks BAD when it happens
this is just semantics
Thors situation is unique though
Law is based on semantics
god, they were really trying to hammer in the "thor is a liar" idea
Is Thor a lawyer?
even as far as the "monthly" updates for HB go
Hmmm for the police to come in hot I suppose the prank calls are not like "my neighbor is making noise"
And more like "they shot their wife and hid the body" or something
Are police reports legal documents?
the crime of swatting is serious enough that people have recently been extradited from europe to the US over charges of it
regardless, swatting attempt/swatting was done
Its been happening for years since streaming started
wait... the swat team didn't break down the door therefore it wasn't a real swatting what? is this what you're saying?

You're arguing between the wrong issue here, An Attempt was made to use Police, to end Thor, As per Law, It is a crime.
"Swatting is a form of criminal harassment that involves deceiving an emergency service (via such means as hoaxing an emergency services dispatcher) into sending a police or emergency response team to another person's location. This is achieved by false reporting of a serious law enforcement emergency, such as a bomb threat, domestic violence, murder, hostage situation, or a false report of a mental health emergency, such as that a person is suicidal or homicidal and armed, among other things.[1] " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting
Swatting is a form of criminal harassment that involves deceiving an emergency service (via such means as hoaxing an emergency services dispatcher) into sending a police or emergency response team to another person's location. This is achieved by false reporting of a serious law enforcement emergency, such as a bomb threat, domestic violence, mu...
but the definition of swatting is that someone sicks the police on you .. not the way the police conducted themselfes xD
hi starr, sorry for causing this
Arguing Semantics between Legalease and Non-Legalease, Wastes time.
If someone attempt to mug me and fail i have every right to say i was mugged
the internet, huh /s
the definition of swatting is the intentional decieving of emergency services to send an emergency response team
To call the police with the intent to have armed police go to a location and engage in an armed investigation of an on-going crime is swatting.
No, this isn't about semantics - this is about intent. No, law is not built on semantics - it is built on the intent of a person's acts.
What you are doing is essentially on par with someone going "attempted murder can't be illegal and comparable to murder, because no one was murdered." This is why I said you should sit and think about what you are actually saying.
someone decided to post the CJ vids in Cohh's discord and which resulted in a piratesoftware convo
Except that's not true - that would just be calling the police. Swatting is when you make up a fake and extreme emergency scenario in order to send the SWAT team to an address so they can force entry and shoot the streamer or at least terrify them.
No, but LawDaddy Khronos is
murder 1 and murder 2 prove the difference
That's literally what they're trying to do?
which is what happened.
they claimed that CJ deleted his twitter because of rabid thor fan harrassment
calling a police to harass people for non-existence crime is swatting
Attempted murder is classified as such because it is not murder. Thank you for understanding the difference.
CJ did delete his twitter
yea .. thats what im saying man xD
so you want the phone call of calling the police
he did, but why is the next question
No it's not, thousands of Karen's would be guilty of a felony if that was the case
Because Twiiter is a trash program? lol
a lot are
I honestly hope that Thor fans didn't go that far to harass him, Even if I disagree with him.
mental note, dont argue on an empty stomach
Which is what was attempted to happen.
Which is why Thor contacted the Police in his area to let them know that such an attempt is a possibility.
You're viewing this from the perspective that there are now countermeasures in place in many Police departments to prevent this exact scenario from happening when public figures are involved after over a decade of happenings. You're being ridiculous.
Didn't he delete Twitter because other programmers were calling him out
ah, yes... "thor fans"
He was called out for his actions by other programmers yes. He deleted it, and then had another one lined up
We don't really know unless CJ himself states why. And even then, It might just be to ''dramafarm'' Thor more
most of us rn
Every programmer is a fan of Thor, didn't you know? /s 
It is rare for me to get upset to the degree I can't really think, so... you might have to actually explain this one - because this is genuinely beyond belief bonkers what Spivv is saying
I'm going for a shower and then I'll have a look at your message later, so, if you want to explain it - please do keep the ping on so I can catch it later!
of which its still being investigated on how to counter it
other than just being more aware
feeding child, gimmie moment
anyways, sorry for this convo once again....
I hope you have a better day then whats going on right now. The dudes trying to make people upset and I hope he gets banned
At least hundreds of them are charged, what you mean XD
https://www.greghillassociates.com/amp/what-happens-if-i-made-a-false-911-call-jail-prison.html
also this
Free Consultation - Call (310) 782-2500 - Greg Hill & Associates aggressively represents the accused against charges in Crime & Criminal cases. What Happens If I Made a False 911 Call? Jail? Prison? - Torrance Crime Lawyer
Not your fault, you asked a relatively sensible question and you were fine with the information you received - that should've been the end of that (at least I don't blame you if nothing else)
Are they being charged with swatting? Or false police report? Think carefully.
Keep in mind, IT's easy to fake videos on the internet 'for views', So take every single ''Karen calling the cops Video'' with a spoonfull of skepticism
Check the article that i send, it’s implied wrongfully request police departments to dispatch is considered swatting
Read carefully
I'm guessing that the reason we didn't see an actual incident on stream is because the police were all arleady pre-informed and just called to confirm
See how this is different than a Karen calling the police on a child for riding bikes in the street?
just got here and don't want to seem like the dude that turns up late to the party hammered and spoils the atmos...
...but I am admittedly a couple beers deep 😆
idiot or troll?
choose one (or both?)
Same point. Both involve fake requests for police aid
I'd say neither, Just highly opinionated person.
So why are you trying to stir up shit? You can see most if not everyone doesn't agree with you and your not going to change their minds.
Difference is in labels and degrees
its different because the alleged crimes are different.
yea....
Same point, different words. Almost like semantics are important.
Someone trying to pull an argument over semantics over the fact that Thor is having the police called on him because of an opinion.
Like
Come on
Nobody is trying to justify it or say it's good. Like, come on.
What are you actually arguing? Because at this point it seems the conversation is just going on circles
whats your point then? xD
so youre just arguing for fun over the definition of swatting?
To antaginize people
so your saying it was not a bit deal?
Your original points argue that unless Thor got a gun pointed at his head, anything else isn’t considered swatting
and somehow saying that only a sufficiently large police response fits the definition of swatting?
@smoky canyon @lunar moth 1st-degree murder --- Definition: A homicide that is both planned and deliberate. An example of this is a contract killing.
2nd-degree murder --- Definition: Generally, a deliberate killing that occurs without planning and does not fall under any of the categories of first degree murder.
Laws are not always based on intent.
the rest of us reach a consensus that if the police got involved with the harassment, it is swatting
point is they think it's okay to try to have the police eff someone up as long as the police don't actually eff them up
it's absolute nonsense of the highest order and clearly a weak trolling attempt (or someone who shouldn't be on the interwebs unsupervised)
we're going in circles
we have been for a while
If no one can’t agree to these points, just move to different subject
Hi what's happening in here

arguing over what swatting really is.
People arguing Semantics of ''Swatting''
I see I see
Yo Shane
Who
weak trolling
Playing your horse girl game via text
Anyway, I need to choose and idk the difference
Shaye*
Because complaining about being swatted like you're under life-threatening attack over your opinion, when the police are already aware you are a target for swatting by streaming, and act accordingly does not hold any weight when compared to actual swatting situations with SWAT responses.

That guy lol
But, He IS under threat, Even if he's got safeguards in place?
How would the people instigating the swatting know that
It's still an attempt, which is frustrating to deal with.
Was Pirate swatted?
Yes, twice the other week
Yes
shooting at someone with a bulletproof vest is still shooting at them
Do I think it's okay, or do I think it's not as severe as actually having a SWAT response to your location?
But he is still being swatted, with the intention to harm his livelihood
Tuesday and then another day
Is he not allowed to complain?
Apparently not
😮💨
Having armed officers go through your property to search is still stressful even if they know there is no dangerous situation
so your saying it was not a big deal that he wasn't in danger?
no he has to tnk everything like superman, obviously
The intention of the people doing it matters
How would they know any safeguards are in place?
And if they didnt know that, wouldn't the intention be to send cops to break down his door?
So youre saying that assassination attempts against political figures don't count because they have bodyguards

it's completely unreal behaviour either way and either way the person that made the call is top-tier scum
again, shooting at someone with a bulletproof vest is still shooting at them
patrick
aight lets not delve that way
Do you think you are arguing with someone who is going to be rational about this?
Oops sorry
Lmao, you're comparing a non-response swatting to assassination attempts? Because that's what a real swatting is.
Any comments on the hype train?
not starting it again
Especially if the person shooting doesnt know they have the vest
have people been injured from swatting attempts?
What hype train
ppl have died
I just woke up
so your saying he was not in danger?
Swatting is intimidation at it's best and murder at it's worst.
Madness. Accusations of hype trains being funded by Khronos alt accounts and people trying to argue swatting attempts is not swatting.
Someone was calling out Thor for supporting his own hype train. Made a video about it
Yes, and killed - because SWAT acted on the call.
new drama unlocked
At this point, Going back to sleep would be the best option.
teh conspiracies man....
wasnt even thor it was khronos
I have chores unfortunately
Sure, but the fact that the INTENT of prank swatting is to force the police on an individual is a crime
Attempted murder is not murder, so
Just move on at this point
for a year or so, till everyone found better things to do with their time
Bro
Slop gonna slop. Let's not give it the time of day. All their words will echo on themselves and will find them Wanting.
It's a conspiracy, which is intent
I can move on whenever I want, you all are the ones responding 
Alright, let’s stop then
How about Waffles after the chores?
Who’s replying is stinky
I don't like waffles

Waffle gud
heresy (i like both equally)
crepes > waffles
I would've given money if I couldve it helps pay the mods and other staff, not really seeing an issue here
Heresy
On that topic. I'ma go make Waffles. BAI
how would that even work? you'd spend more money than the extra hype on the train would make you....
... the internet is more unhinged than usual this past month
It's just another attempt to attack Thor
why are the motorcycle handles levitating?
exactly xD but apparently there is a single person that is worried the train wasnt organic or something xD
and moving the goalposts
did the CIA flip the "idiot" switch and push a new stupidity update out to the npcs?
thout at this point they are in the ocean
Apparently all hypetrains are fake now 🤷♂️
Its a popularity thing, they are saying he was doing it to gain more people or to have more people jump in. Kinda like view botting your own channel. Spending money to gain hype
its very whatever
I mean who gives a shit really was the last record breaking hype train organic because Valorant was matching donations?
i feel like someone slipped and hammered it a million times xD
I don't think there is a rule against making the hypetrain by just spending your own money
not to mention the clip being used was a whole 3% of the donated bits
Literally a non issue
Yep
Honestly, that crumb is adding up for some people. If it wasn't then they would stop.
I think anyone who has the free time to come up with this wack ass shit to cry about online should get mandatory military service time
what i find fascinating about it is that someone must have spend a whole lot of time to find this snippet in all the streams .. like the dedication is insane .. imagine how many good things could have been done with all that energy wasted on dumb shit
If Youtube demonetized hit pieces like that, you would see them stop
no politics intended - simply a point of psychology
but if you look into the research papers the big social media companies pay for it's pretty obvious "socials" are the new mechanism by which to enshittify people
that's their /actual/ objective
I can't believe Thor has gotten me to watch Midnight Sumo and I have now been playing it for like 12 hours straight including listening to it while sleeping.
Cry baby online? Go to bootcamp
Bootcamp doesn't help most people, they just hide it and it comes out later.
It's time to do drills
i feel like my instinct on not engaging in most social media platforms was spot on ^^
yes spend that energy xD
They're getting close to the Mariana Trench of digging now
Yeah seriously it's actually crazy to think about
We have to find more things to complain about
Midnight Sumo is awesome
To me its also along the lines of Salty Bet
Shaye said find things to complain about, not about how great that channel is. Sheesh
I don't like most Mushrooms, there I said it.
I enjoy sumo
banned
can we talk about the weather? i hate the summer!!!
same!
summer sucks!
This is fine at least you tried new things and found out it wasn't for you
way too hot in summer
yarp - I have a facebook account, just to "benefit" from the t&cs because if you don't have an account they just shadow profile you and it's unregulated because it's not "personal" info because they don't "know" who you are...
but that's it
I use discord because it's basically an asynchronous forum - old school web 1.0 was the best
winter much better
Shaye have you heard of the Leonardo drawing app?
yea, discord is almost all im using unless you count youtube and twitch as social media
it's not that hard to search his streams, you can search everything that's said here:
https://filmot.com/

Ohh, Warframe has Tennocon today, so if you want drops you should tune in. It's their Tenth year so something big might happen
Oki i sleep now bai chat
No
i mean of course you can find it, but spending the time to search this just to find something like this .. and look through all the material? its not like you look at the vod and those 10 secs are the first thing that show right?
ah, youtube with it's crappy copyright system that refuses to recognise the standard DJ implied licence when playing out...
have to check all the tracks for copyright before I can put a mix together for youtube
waiting on audio upload now to check tomorrow's mix
rumble is so good though - needs more peeps on it, but if you a DJ they don't copyright strike live mixes - woop woop! 🙂
just waiting on processing now - roll the dice, can I use the tracks I want to use?
pray to RNGesus
wait like, did you click the link?
you just type in his channel and then the text you want to find and it'll show every stream and timestamp where he said it.
it's like, 0 effort
Smh people don't even have to put effort into this anymore
I actually donated a lot because I thought the Hype train was organic, Shaye.
Thanks for supporting the staff
yea thats annoying af .. i streamed for a short while and uploaded to youtube, played the star wars mmo and we had to mute like a lot cause of the music xD
yea but dont you have to know what you are looking for? Oo no i havent clicked the link sorry ^^
i just take all the tracks, throw them in a blank video and upload it before recording the mix
checking 18% - come on youtube... be good to me!
DMCA was the worst thing to happen to streaming
no SKG but DMCA is one of the reasons I was against it
bad law that totally screws grass-roots DJs
Yea I can completely see that, especially when using samples from other songs etc
Awful response
Thanks for supporting the staff o7
if one donation from a mod on an alternate account so the other mods dont know sours the entire train for you, thats a you problem
claims to be here on an alt cause scared of banning
some tracks blocked in russia, but that's because Warner BMG are jerkfaces about rights - assume politics?
ah well, most of the world can see it - as good as it gets usually, so winner! 🙂
back in an hour, I gots a sick mix to lay down
The worst is how dmca is exploited. People don't want to fight claims often because it gives the malicious other party who exploits the system their personal adress.
Why would you be banned
2 year old account, dont think thats an alt
thats just warner being warner
TLDR claims he is a big dono and is using an alt account is mad about allegendly donating 3k USD cause Khronors allegedly used an alt account to keep the hype train going.
Amd warner... seriously, screw warner. They're worse than nintendo's lawyers.
You won't be banned if you follow the rules
Which doesn't make sense nor does it matter
How can you say this with a straight face.
There's a ban counter on stream
I don't think you're doing anything wrong
Yeah heimdall goes crazy
Thank you.
Because ppl bringing up concerns don't get banned? You'd know this as a long time follower
Ill say this like I did the other day. I honestly have no fear ill be banned. Cause you know how you avoid getting banned? Dont do bannable things. Its super not hard.
Because those are ppl being dumb
If you're not being a jerk straight up you're not going to get banned
Because 99% of the bans there are people just saying slurs, or "mana gem" "Blizzard" "Nepo baby" etc. Just reddit copypaste or Youtube slop drama opinions.
if you were doing something to get banned, it wouldve happened already considering mods have been here
Which was there to weed out the wacky people.
which they would know if they watched .. but hey xD
assume their first message is a slur or a reddit copypasta
Discord isn't as crazy with bans as stream there's like, maybe a handful on here every day it's not that bad
The only thing that matters about it is that it's wrong. There was no foul play. And, foul play would be impossible due to how breakie the train was near the end.
Just cause I have an opinion of your concern doesn't mean you're breaking the rules
I also have never felt compelled to making alts. I use one account. I dont even usually make alt characters in games cause thats a lot of work ;p
And the ones that aren't saying that and are saying things in good faith that get accidentally banned, get unbanned.
i use alts to troll people
also I am unsure how the hype train supposedly being continued by khronos makes it so you retroactively wished you didn't donate? /gen
you meanie! :P
much funnier that way
Im 43. My trolling days are over.
I think using alts to troll is weenie shit
Yeah like this thought process boggles me
I just troll Shaye on my main account 
tiny weenie
Pokedot bikini
I wouldn't put my money in if I knew first hand it was an unethical thing man...
trolling on main be like
im totally not planning a long term troll on someone which requires 3 alts and 1 other person to be in on it, not for this discord. dont worry
Also, if spending $3k on a twitch streamer is a detriment in any manner, what are you doing throwing that kind of money around?
That thor wore for the first time today....
It's not unethical? What makes it unethical
I missed this? Dang.
Please do elaborate
Someone somewhere, would keep the train going, doesn't matter who is came from
unethical makes it sound like thor uses the hype train money to kill babies or something
Yeah secret stream for those who didn't give up clicking his page

@rose dawn why dont you just come join the discussion on your main account we have already established you wont get banned for it.
The fact the train was kept going, allowing more people to donate and give money, but it was only kept going by the people receiving said money... That in my book is unethical. It was a LOT of money too.
Hypetrains are ALWAYS of choice. There's nothing unethical about it.
OnlyThorngs 
He is stealing from the orphans 
fair enough
So...what? The point was to try and break a world record....
Are you all back on this again?
Yes the sea lion continues
You would know this as a long time fan as you've claimed
hopefully not
Anyways...
The point is for the streamer to get money brother. That's why donations exist. The hype trains WR attempts are just that, a second part of it. And thats fine, it's Thor's job. Just don't like the under the table nature of it all.
So what would be the difference between donating that money during a hype train, or not? You could do that at any time.
just had a thought
why is nepotism such a big deal anyway
the way I see it, it's sharing your knowledge and experience with the person you're trying to get in the field
is the concern just about the title/income?
You do know what Thor does with said money, right???
And he poured all of it into building a ferret rescue. Proper goal in my opinion 
I do think it's an interesting discussion
no it was literally communicated that the point was the world record
We have established both sides arguments. You clearly are still not convinced. Take your loss and move on.
It didn't happen, end of. Just trolls throwing shit at the ceiling from thor's frontyard
Generally the term is used of having someone get a job they are wholly not qualified for
How do we know that
Me being a mod on stream teehee
and what if the point of getting the job is to get experience?
technically the concern is that you got your position despite not having the expertise or experience
Streamers gift subs to their own stream all the time though, that's what the bit goal even is. They also do it during trains, that's not abnormal or underhanded.
A streamer could literally spend $100,000k just gifting subs to their channel 100 at a time if they wanted, and solo a train.
What sort of planet are you on where you don't see how a donation train is to do with donations?
Y'all need some ferret clip https://www.twitch.tv/ferretsoftware/clip/PatientWanderingWalletPRChase-O24G2U9Rxaqugvdi
Pff. I said not qualified ;p
They did it on alt accounts, hidden from us viewers, supposedly.
Commander JackBlack reporting for duty
supposedly
thor give subs to chat before
it's mostly about someone getting into a job they have no qualifications or skills for solely because they know some higher up at the company (for nepotism it's usually family), and ahead of any other possibly better qualified candidates
Also I think the assumption that streamers first point of existing is making money. Many, if not most aren't doing it for that being "the point"
Yes but the point of the hypertrain on April 1 is to break a world record.
Happens EVERY YEAR
There is a VOD that has not been addressed as of yet
the mp4 file with no meta data? thats not a VOD
Because i was there. Now stop being like my grandmother who believed everything she saw on the internet. Healthy skepticism is necessary for healthy internet usage.
The point of a hype train is to make money, bro.
id like to know how the allegation is substantiated
There is the full VOD although I don't know how to post here
I think you need to unpack why you think this is "unethical", or an emotionally charged topic for you. That is something that only you can do.
Thor has an entire bit counter on stream where once it reaches 100% he gifts hundreds of sub's to his own channel
But y es, if you are talking about April 1st the idea was trying to get the world record. But Thor would be the first one to say to not throw crazy money (and im sorry at least to me $3k is crazy money) if that is an issue.
not for thor. its just a fun thing for the community
The distinction of it being from alt accounts is additional, but separate from the point you raised against doing it in the first place. I was addressing those points first.
Your argument of why it was bad applied whether it was from alts or not.
That vod doesn't address anything
the worst one guy in history imo xD
Zero proof
its one guy getting one guyed, double layer oneguy
wasnt that also from the april fools stream last year? or was it this year i get time confused alot
It matters if it's from alts or not because if we can see the streamer doing it then, we can make our own descisions. If we can't, then we are making decisions on the precedent that the hype train is organic.
#streamchat message it has been addressed, you just dont like it so demanding a diffrent responce
Anyways, I need to get ready to head to my parents house. This discussion seems extra weird and thats saying something considering some of the weird nit picks people try to bring up.
Circles man, we've been over this. Time to move on, honestly.
Addressed properly? No
You're missing my point. I'm not saying it does or doesn't matter that it was from alts.
I'm saying that your initial points against it were points that applied even if it wasn't from alts. I addressed those first.
It actually reminds me of a tabloid my mother looked at and was shocked, because it supposedly showed two political figures "kissing"- but it was literally just a tricky perspective shot. Sometimes you just have to engage the brain.
Assuming this was true
We have established both sides arguments. You clearly are still not convinced. Take your loss and move on.
exactly
Even the nits are getting sparse and now they're just digging directly into the skin
Please continue this tomorrow or another time, you all got a lot of info and arguments already.
Sit on them for some time and chill for now
you just dont like it, thats all
If you can put together a better argument for your point, please do, but currently your arguments do not hold water.
I'm re-reading things, what is being pushed here?
Hmm that doesn't sound like a very Kobold thing to say. You didn't mention gold or becoming a dragon once.
can you add more info to this? no? then shut up and move on
Yeah its super weird. If Khronos did do that who cares, im too lazy to make alts but making ones with funny names and donating would be funny. If he didn't do it then this whole thing is extra dumb considering means the entire initial premise makes no sense (granted it really makes no sense either way)
Kronos did an alt dono to continue thr April 1st hype train
I'm just gonna block. It's easier that way. If they want an echo chamber to tell them its okay to believe things with no evidence, they can join facebook
In conspiracy with Thor.
Which one, the world record or the recent one?
There is a VOD
Yeah, I need to remember to do this earlier before I get riled up and annoyed ;p
-# I'm waiting for you all to leave so I can get the coins that fell on the floor and no one noticed
It doesn't matter
It does, the money from subsequent donations to the hype train continued by streamer and mods in conspiracy goes... wait for it... to the streamer
This would be funny art to make
Again: We have established both sides arguments. You clearly are still not convinced. Take your loss and move on.
I don't think a streamers hype train is the biggest issue if you have concerns of ethics for where your money goes or what it's used for honestly but that's just my opinion and me being pedantic for the sake of it
No, it doesn't matter. At all
I believe that Khronos doing that was more to troll Thor, than to conspire with him
Just a Kobold sweating looking at the gold on the floor
Waiting for everyone to leave
Roflmao, this is a wild conspiracy theory
So just to clarify - previously you were asking if the vid clip you posted was real, but now you're saying there's a live vod hosted by twitch that the clip came from which matches the clip?
but aint it too small to have an effect
I could see that tbh 
I have since been shown the full VOD which has the clip in, not on Twitch
But it would be pretty wild to fake a whole VOD, it's like, hours
so an archived copy of the vod?
I believe so
Yeah, you'd be surprised how much effort people would put in to discredit Thor in any way they can, these days
just link the vod
Where is it hosted? It wouldn't be too hard to insert an edited clip into the original vod for example, if the vod is hosted in say google drive
and its not hard to fake an entire vod if its just to add a 5 second overlay
That wouldn't be wise since it's probably some copyright thing
Can't if it's over 60 days
What?
Totally agree
It wouldn't be wise for me to post the entire VOD for that reason
And I doubt as to it being real, even more, just because of you saying that
My agents are already working while you are all distracted
There is no copyright issue with linking vods
So we have to take your word for it
It would be wise? It's not a copyright thing?
Wait MY COINS
Lawl offices of TrustMe & Bro
Cute little monsters
Vods are public record and belong to twitch and are reposted every where all the time
it would have to be reuploaded if it was
Copyright doesn't prevent sharing the link to a VOD
I can DM you it, and you can post it, if you want
Why kobolds and not something like owlbears?
What's the hype train lvl her
Yeah, if no link, not believing it's real
Just post it
I'm not sure why you're scared for your alt account
Just make another if something happens
bruh
Nothing will but like
theres no rules against sharing a VOD link here
That's what alts are for
...should I be laughing?
Oh god i almost ground my coffee without putting the lid on
@rose dawn what's the hype train level at this point in the VoD?
did automod catch something again lol
yep
i dont see thor's overlay so its potentially over
damn, mod privileges
The mods see alll the logs. Best part of being a mod.
based on the video player UI it looks like that's a video playing in a browser without it being hosted by any specific website, so I have to assume it was re-uploaded by someone manually
this means it's basically impossible to confirm whether it's been edited or not from the vid alone
You get all the tea

havent the TTS messages been posted, and are visible in the tts channel?
or worst, depending on the messages
Even then, let's assume lv 69 (nice) pushing it over to lv 70, going to 71 still requires A LOT of subs and bits
only if its got a message with it. lone bits arent
Should be
and thats if thor got to it




