streamchat

[winged knoll]

ye we should not talk about it, i ran out of bread

also my gripe with Thor is he codes in Java

[flat moat]

It hasn't and it's going to continue for the next few weeks until the toxicity makes the haters fall into a coma until the next drama occurs. More than 2k accounts banned by Heimdall and mods on stream for the past week

[winged knoll]

[wispy plover]

reddit. twitter. into your pillow. Not here though.

[winged knoll]

i mean the coordinated attempt to go after everything else but the man

the ferrets, his staffs, his friends etc

[flat moat]

Yeah, still hasn't stopped

[winged knoll]

dang

People can't disagree without being civil

I don't agree with you therefore you are hitler

[flat moat]

They went after his dad and tried to weaponize their inside joke of "Thor didn't wish me a happy birthday"

[winged knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-laughing-gif-13031147940704744720

[earnest cove]

welcome to 2025

[winged knoll]

yeah i just saw it on LSF kek

they are both trolls (Thor + his dad)

[earnest cove]

so that's the source. i thought of was goblins getting together to tease thor about his upcoming birthday

the good old replacing people's birthday with someone else and then joke about it

[winged knoll]

go buy the demo - dad
but it free - thor

pay full price - dad

i mean at this point if Thor farts in the wrong direction it would be put on the interweb so the angry mobs can hate so

[spice dragon]

looks like even elon musk his son now owns a X account Isn't the kid to young for this these Bots are getting out of hand

[forest glacier]

Did anyone else get booted from the stream to the ferrets like instantly? LMAO I think he hit the instant raid by accident or something 😂 the ad alert played even after chat went emote only mode.

“Tomorrow’s my birthday. Welp, anywa-“ CUT

[rain hazel]

it had been on countdown for 3 TTS messages for the raid to start

[brisk sparrow]

he also sniped a TTS message at the end

[forest glacier]

Yea I feel like he puts it on auto for the last few seconds. Unfair but whatayagonnado

[spice dragon]

It's his birthday every day I think aging everyday make thor confused

[exotic forge]

Yeah simply ignoring it isn't the solution....at least it's not the whole solution

[flat moat]

At the end of the day, there are unhinged people on the internet that haven't had a sense of decency for a long time. No matter what solution is implemented, People will still harass because they think their actions won't track back to them in real life.

[swift lily]

im wondering who/what are Video Games Europe; since they made a statement against the Initiative, im hoping they're people who know what they're talking about and not just a group that says everything Ross wants is "not" what people really want

it looks like they have a board from different video game publishing companies

but the team is separate from the board

[umbral gazelle]

VGE is an indepandant group of video game "experts" funded by mostly tripple A publishers Also just because someone is on the VGE list does not mean they are actively lobbying against it.

if the majority decides something all of them do it

[swift lily]

i find it more interesting that the independent group is funded by AAA publishers. VGE must contribute to something if AAA pubs are funding it

[umbral gazelle]

they lobby the eu parliment in favor of tripple A

[swift lily]

ahh

[umbral gazelle]

they are independant not impartial

also adding a to my knowledge disclaimer

sees action dan typing

[jolly sky]

More importantly, they're Law Experts

They know the ins and outs of copyright/IP law. And every developer in the EU, AAA all the way to Solo can sign up for their protection.

[dusky grove]

I think the whole skg chaos has made me rethink how i see media

Cuz often times people only see it as consumers vs companies.

But we've seen that its a three way deadlock. Consumer, creator, company.

Arrowhead and sony are a good example here

[flint sinew]

[dusky grove]

I aint gonna delve further, we've talked this topic to death

It just keeps coming back up

[hasty grail]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-npc-man-hu-ha-nice-day-for-fishing-morning-mornin-gif-17883323

[winged knoll]

I’m out of bread

[flint sinew]

no bribes

[serene valley]

I do not like that gif

[winged knoll]

is not brib, is berry

[serene valley]

The flashes aren't great

Other than that the content was funny

[swift lily]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-yiss-gif-26630861

[serene valley]

Mmm, better

[winged knoll]

Aww yish

[golden mirage]

Its not a bribe, its a gift...given out of sight, where Thor can't see it...

[thick ledge]

saw someone say they were using out of context clips of his dad now

new low

[winged knoll]

Bad peepo

[subtle gate]

https://youtu.be/DyJiA5Erurk?si=3Kmb48fu76NXlv1H how to take care of SKG mobsters in the future

also me from an era ago https://youtu.be/Ij5smBE2_oQ?si=4wikBOZtx6E2CwK5

[opaque raven]

Bribe is just another form of love

[wet storm]

Mandyposting

Approved

[muted robin]

I propose using this image

[wet storm]

lmao

Stowlen

[golden latch]

I purpose their own artwork in disgust

[vivid maple]

https://vxtwitter.com/alecsbutt/status/1944445025326149894

ᴀʟᴇᴄ 🍃 (@alecsbutt)

DING FRIES ARE DONE

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vxTwitter / fixvx · Jul 13, 2025, 5:13 PM

[late bane]

https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-27277116

[earnest cove]

i like listening to thor's streams while making art. he's not too excited that it breaks the groove

[late bane]

Gotta throw someone out a window then

[wispy plover]

https://tenor.com/view/cdi-king-link-throw-out-gif-27163426

[wispy plover]

I'll either work on projects, or play a game if I am not actively chatting.

[late bane]

I listen while driving for work

Only chat when I stop lol

[proud tundra]

What’s up yall don’t think anyone cares but I just beat sprong in act 2 this shit took 17 minutes !!!

[toxic rampart]

I have NO IDEA what that is but grats!

I really wish I clicked with 33. The combat is so solid. When it's there.

[proud tundra]

lol thank you ! It’s this boss that you’re not supposed to fight this early that has a ton of health so you basically have to take no damage and parry everything

[proud tundra]

I felt the same way too at first but the more I played the more interested I became the story is very enticing but I will say I’m not a fan of the map and exploration

[subtle gate]

is it calling you a cheater or is that the character name?

[proud tundra]

lol that’s an ability you unlock from beating this boss it’s why I did it early cus it’s OP you get two turns back to back and can apply it to any character

[subtle gate]

oh okay 👏

[toxic rampart]

I was kinda meh at first until they landed and it hit the fan like it did.
It was just the back and forth of cutscene to gameplay that got me out.

Brain like gogo juice.
Brain make happy when fast and gameplay.

A lifetime of Arcade racers and shooters and shmups has ruined me

[proud tundra]

I agree I’m sort of the same way lol unskipable cutscenes kill me sometimes lol

[hasty grail]

if anyone wants ideas for Thor vs spammers

[late bane]

Yeet'us delete'us

[kindred sedge]

He would absolute(heh)ly kick a baby

That batman specifically

[hasty grail]

this is part of the Absolute Batman run and here he is going against Black Mask's faction

[indigo wadi]

the face of a man that's just done

[kindred sedge]

I can't belive Thor would do that

[exotic forge]

Watched the stream yesterday. Quite disappointing how a lot of the comments on stream are soft-baits meant to trigger Thor

[late bane]

They are desperate for sure

[late bane]

My ocd was going nuts

[hasty grail]

nice

https://youtu.be/6ca-AawQfdI

[late bane]

Rekt

[river cargo]

another lsf thread, but atleast this time people actually understand mocking the death of his ferret isn't the same as mocking the death of random racehorses

some sanity in lsf finally?

TBF i do think LSF is mostly sane, but have been misled by big streamers and youtubers(like moistcritikal) into the hatetrain

[late bane]

They are people who exist, just wish they were quieter

[modest mango]

Yeah, homie gets it.

[indigo wadi]

we...don't....care

Just stop posting about it

There's 1000 things you can go and enjoy, LSF shouldn't be one of them

[hasty grail]

yoou could join me in enjoying the chaos of the Absolute DC universe

[indigo wadi]

or Warhammer: Return of Reckoning

[silver vapor]

[muted robin]

Complete strangers thinking they can somehow get in the way of a private family relationship will never not be funny to me

Not even just w Thor but in general like. You know your hated streamer and their parents are reading your comments and laughing together if they even care at all right?

You can never insult these people as much as they insult themselves through the sheer amount of waste they produce

[indigo wadi]

to be insulted, one must be able to be offended. A lot of these ppl don't understand the concept of being offended, thus they're able to shitsling without consequence.

[muted robin]

something something playing chess with pigeons

[earnest cove]

I think thor needs to demonstrate why narrative and dialogue writing sucks

Because people keep asking like that's gonna solve everything

[indigo wadi]

You really think that's gonna solve anything?

[river cargo]

He can just refer to grrm

One of the greatest authors ever

Yet his series has been postponed and delayed multiple times

[indigo wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/who-dat-snoop-gif-15116696

[muted robin]

i haven't played or kept up with heartbound at all but isn't he writing multiple permutations for multiple individual flags that basically lead to dozens or hundreds of scenes to write

also, and this is me speaking as someone who's far more creatively inclined than technically inclined, but based on what thor has said i imagine writing takes him a lot longer than coding simply bc coding is something he did for a living in one form or another for literal years, so his skill/ease with that isn't going to necessarily translate to speed of story writing. not saying he's bad but it's just a matter of sheer hours/years invested

like, for me personally, i'm minmaxed into being extremely fast and skilled with writing but with more technical subject matter i kinda just know the bare bones and carefully tiptoe my way through it 😂 simply bc i'm far more experienced/trained in one over the other

[river cargo]

Is this bait lol

[muted robin]

i'm not here for heartbound so tbh i don't know

[earnest cove]

He did it for programming before and also for pictures so for some people think it can fix stories because it's not been shown with a bad example

[river cargo]

People really underestimate how hard writing is though

[river cargo]

That's because programming is Thor's forte

[earnest cove]

Deltarune still have at least 2 to 3 chapters to go

[indigo wadi]

grrm? like grim fairy tales?

[indigo wadi]

I know he did it before but he also hates narrative writing on stream

wait, what?

[novel fox]

Out of context of the current discussion, could anyone give me a quick sum of why is everyone hating on thor again? I don't watch social media like X but seen some videos on youtube.

[river cargo]

Grrm = George RR martin

[earnest cove]

He just didn't agree with a populist movement and that made him a demon somehow

[river cargo]

False, it has 3 hours for 1 playthrough but the game is about secret finding and multiple playthrougha

[indigo wadi]

oooh foot likey guy

god damn automod

[river cargo]

That's trolls

[indigo wadi]

My understanding was that Heartbound had a lot more content for a singular route. Is it really 3 hours of content?

Huh...

[river cargo]

Trolls brigaded the site to bring it down sadly

[indigo wadi]

I guess I should actually play it and see for myself

[real cradle]

The shorthand is they're angry over how he responded to the SKG initiative when it started, and then blamed its fundamental lack of momentum on all but the last 2 weeks exclusively on him not supporting it. Videos were suddenly made, shit was thrown and current situation now exists.

[river cargo]

It started long before 2 weeks ago

[indigo wadi]

Additionally, Thor will not back down from his stances, adding to the fuel

[brazen drift]

even if he "apologized" people would move the goalpost and still be mad at him and then Also call him a coward

[muted robin]

basically imagine that people are going from neighborhood to neighborhood trying to get people to vote for a petition, and when they came to thor's house he said "no i think it's stupid, i'm not going to support it," and then instead of continuing to go door to door campaigning all of the activists for the petition decided to camp outside of this one guy's house with flaming torches and pitchforks accusing him of ruining their movement

[brazen drift]

10 months later.

[indigo wadi]

It will.

[brazen drift]

Very important to note he said his peace 10 months ago, and then got another round of people 10 months later

[indigo wadi]

The long part right now is the narrative writing due to the choose your own adventure paths

there's be RL delays as well on top of everything else

[brazen drift]

Also he said it the other day that he basically didn't communicate at all that he more or less took a year off to get all the business stuff set up; aka mods being paid and ferret rescue stuff

so that added an extra year of dev

[indigo wadi]

Yeah

Like I get the frustration and sympathize with it, but I def don't agree with the hostilities thrown Thor's way.

I feel like there should be a certain understanding with it

[river cargo]

Oh at this point most people frustrated don't even own the game

[brazen drift]

or they bought it, left a trash review, and then refunded

[river cargo]

The Kickstarter backers are probably like 0.1% of his haters

[wispy plover]

I guarantee everyone posting hate about the game hasn't even heard of it until 2 weeks ago.

[river cargo]

It's the slander from guys like mutahar, moistcritkal and jacksepticeye that really blew skg drama up

[muted robin]

funny thing is tho that was directed at ross who thor did apologize to, but internet white knights are still going "not good enough!!!!!" even though the reception/acceptance of the apology would literally just be between those two people and not thor vs the entire internet. parasocial af people

[indigo wadi]

Yeah, and Thor did go on to apologize about how he initially handled it.

[brazen drift]

You know what other game has technically been in development for longer than heartbound and has raked up literal millions of dollars?? Star Citizen

Wheres those people yelling that that game isn't coming out even though its "being worked on"

[real cradle]

It absolutely did and when the issue was revisited he did have some help in realizing that, hence his apology for his attitude and language during his response, position still stands though. And that made people even angrier because they think that an apology means that he should magically reverse his opinion on everything he's ever said.

[wispy plover]

It's the moving of goal posts. Constantly.

[lapis tartan]

Game hits stretch goals and will now become bigger than planned or expected and takes longer. Streamer/dev becomes bigger than expected. Instead of taking money and running, helps mods/peoples and even more ferrets.

So, Hate? It just doesn't make sense in this context.

[muted robin]

for me personally (again as someone not here for heartbound) i see multiple perspectives, like both "well if it's been 9 years then surely he should be done with it by now" but also "idk what game dev is really like so i figure that this amount of time isn't typical but i can't say that he's not working on it" but then "well it seems like it's in dev hell, a lot of games don't make it out of there but some do so we'll have to see" and then i'm also aware that thor works on the game both on and off stream, so saying that he's not working on it isn't factually correct

so really my whole view on heartbound taking so long is "idk, i can see both why it's taking so long and also why it could be annoying that it's taking so long, just have to see + i am not a supporter so it's probably their opinion that matters more"

[indigo wadi]

It's simply because, anonymous people choose to be shitheads

[brazen drift]

The only other game that I think actually would deserve the anger is Silksong since people DID pay into that kickstarter with the promise that there would be DLC - which they decided to turn into a full game (which fair enough, cool) and then pretty much radio silence for years at a time. that reddit has legit gone insane.

But it is still being worked on, even if the devs refuse to talk to people

Yeah

which is why i say Would

[wispy plover]

Silksong doesn't deserve hate either.

[muted robin]

tbh i'm an extremely coarse and blunt person so i don't think anyone should take me as an authority on reputation or PR

[brazen drift]

Idk I'd be pretty mad if something I paid for on a kickstarter, which is notorious for scams or failed ventures, had radio silence except for a few memes and silent delays

[muted robin]

like if someone on a stream indirectly said i could eat their entire a-- i'd be like "k lol" and move on

[brazen drift]

my friend kickstarted a gaming table and the dudes "promised stuff" and then ghosted everyone and then everyone found out they went bankrupt

or that one game where all the money legit was spent on Adult Workers and Drugs

[lapis tartan]

It's become a pattern to take things out of context to try and tear down people. The internet is just so big and there's so much happening. You can nitpick things to make up any story you want for attention/views.

[brazen drift]

lmao

[river cargo]

wait what game?

[lapis tartan]

Then you get new people who get caught up and join the hate, or trolls who know what's going on and keep throwing gas on the fire.

[river cargo]

was that the jrpg one?

[ocean agate]

most important thing to remember is

[brazen drift]

I think it was ant simulator or something

yeah yeah

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2016/02/01/ant-simulator-cancelled-after-devs-blow-kickstarter-funds-on-booze-and-strippers/

[real cradle]

It at least deserves an explanation as to the current state. Some kind of news, ANY kind of news. Cause there's been money put into that by people who were expecting a product, so their investment is in limbo until the game comes out.

[river cargo]

lol

[wispy plover]

Umamusume will get to you, too. Don't worry.

https://tenor.com/view/gold-ship-uma-musume-dropkick-gif-1310520311152972568

[lapis tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/symboli-rudolf-umamusu-uma-musume-uma-rudolf-gif-15621678042372387106

[brazen drift]

Also don't forget silksong did get delayed, which people were okay with but it was radio silence until like, 2023? and then the gamefest "joke" about silksong, and THEN the microsoft teaser in the background

[high ember]

I need to play some more Heartbound

[brazen drift]

well, "delayed"

in that it never really had a confirmed date which is the smart choice

[wispy plover]

Jesus. That's what the end of everything looks like

[indigo wadi]

Why? Also #thorchan

[wispy plover]

Just all of us... getting trampled by Thorsegirls

[indigo wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/seinfeld-giddy-up-gif-8174058

[ocean agate]

• • • Thorsegirls - - - oh god

[wispy plover]

Everything becomes nothing eventually. But how we get there... only the Horse Girl Apocalypse will tell.

[ocean agate]

i always forget about that channel

[real cradle]

that's a defense mechanism in action, that place is a cognitohazard.

[exotic forge]

I'm pretty sure the vast majority of the "frustration" with the delays of the game aren't from Heartbound fans but rather from concern trolls

[indigo wadi]

concern trolls is an oxymoron

[jolly sky]

And honestly? Even if you are a fan and have even paid for Heartbound, getting unreasonably buttfrustrated over a ~$10 purchase is pretty insane

[indigo wadi]

I used channel points, but even if I spent money, I'd still have the same temperment with it now

[jolly sky]

Like you'd spend more than that on takeout

[indigo wadi]

I spent $10 on a bag of buttermilk breaded chicken breasts

[jolly sky]

Actually getting that mad over it would only make sense if Heartbound was the only game you had ever bought, played and obsessed over, which in itself is another level of insane

[exotic forge]

Not sure what the point of this is. I'll just assume you understand the concept of a concern troll and you agree with the unfortunate fact that they do exist.

[indigo wadi]

if someone is a troll, they have no genuine concerns over whatever they're trolling about

[strange owl]

I could see some valid concerns if you bought into the game and not the streamer, since it's very much a side project at this point.

However I doubt that even a fraction of the people on there are unaware of the situation and most just want something to be angry about.

[indigo wadi]

hence, oxymoron

[exotic forge]

The definition of a concern troll is that they're being disingenuous with their concerns

[jolly sky]

It's just an internet term for people who pretend to care but actually do not

[indigo wadi]

so an oxymoron, cool

[jolly sky]

Then I guess ok, they're acting purposefully oxymoronic

[exotic forge]

I'm not really sure what the point of this is...

[indigo wadi]

the term "concern troll" to me, comes off as oxymoronic

[wispy plover]

I missed this somehow. As a Hollow Knight enjoyer, I enjoy every single year, event, etc when nothing is announced, and I get to feast on those delicious Silksong tears. HOWEVER this concept of "they owe us" while a tiny bit more relevant than the stuff over Heartbound, no... they don't owe us anything unless there is something significant to talk about. They also don't deserve threats over stuff either. If something has people that buttflustered over it, then people need to rethink their priorities.

Same goes with Heartbound and Thor. Thor had some significant life changes when his channel blew up. He does monthly updates now. It isn't a thing of "nothings happening, game abandoned" like the concern trolls will have you believe. He doesn't owe anyone any more than that. And he does not deserve a single threat he has gotten.

No one is owed anything. No one deserves that kind of hate. If your logic is "Thor doesn't deserve this... BUT" NO! Stop. You lost the damn plot.

Not saying you specifically, btw. Just in general.

As far as investing, there are risks with investment. Money is fleeting. Bigger things in the world to worry about.

[gloomy forge]

Gonna be neat once Heartbounds done since I never played it before so going through the whole experience is gonna be a first for me. Without spoilers and all.

[ocean agate]

AAA = good chance of return on investment..... indie means not AAA, risky investment

[placid plover]

I love hitting "not interested" on yt videos about drama related to Thor. ignorance is bliss lol

[indigo wadi]

AAA is far more risky these days than indie

[gloomy forge]

I heard Heartbound has a ton of different branching path that leas to entirely different outcomes, not sure though.

[ocean agate]

YT doesnt know what to show me anymore so my whole feed is Toni and Ryan , try not to laugh videos from like years ago to now

[indigo wadi]

Correct, which is why the narrative writing is taking so long.

[wispy plover]

Same for me. Once it is done, I will be playing it as well. It will be a different experience for me and I look forward to it.

[placid plover]

nice. mine is mostly russianBadger or helldivers 2 stuff. which btw, Im super excited for it to come to xbox. hype

[gloomy forge]

Oh thats unique, Undertale had big branching paths but they were related to gameplay, the more effort you put in the nicer the reward/ending. But if Heartbound really has multiple path I wonder how that plays out.

[indigo wadi]

Mine is still a bunch of relevant stuff that I've watched over months, but most of the bigger YTubers that I may have watched in the past have entered my "will not watch" list

[ocean agate]

ferrets have a new cam

https://www.twitch.tv/ferretsoftware

[jolly sky]

I've just gone back to the classic. Watching Adam Savage do stuff on Tested

[gloomy forge]

Probably not gonna be like Undertale, people did say a lot of good things about heartbound even a year ago but I rather not gonna spoil myself. i'm sure the games gonna be done at some point.

[indigo wadi]

There's branching paths that are based on things that you do/don't do. Like if you take Lore's sweater or not

[wispy plover]

I searched up some stuff on birds on youtube. Doesn't completely filter out the dumb stuff, but at least now I see cool birbs on my feed.

[gloomy forge]

not looking at your comment to not spoil myself but truth be told gonna be nice. I'm gonna get into it with an open mind but I rather not always lurk in the streams because sometimes theres spoilery stuff.

[indigo wadi]

my homepage

[indigo wadi]

That's another reason why Thor doesn't stream the narrative writing

[ocean agate]

i think i only watched part of one of the dont laugh challenges, didnt even finish the video

i just dont use youtube much anymore

[wispy plover]

wrestling enjoyer spoted

[indigo wadi]

Aye

the heck are these thumbnails?

almost looks AI

[toxic rampart]

Real talk.
I can barely handle the pressure I put on myself to complete a complex passion project or idea and will always second guess myself throughout the process.
Even in my own daily work.

The amount that Thor and other devs, particularly indies must feel has to be immense. Regardless of projected demeanor.

I have an insane amount of respect for the work, particularly when ones name is attached and entwined with it and it's very public, with people expecting and waiting.

[wispy plover]

That Rhea Ripley vs Iyo Sky match looked awesome tonight. If you haven't seen anything from it yet. I won't spoil it.

[indigo wadi]

Not surprised they put on a banger.

[indigo wadi]

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME

[wispy plover]

ahahaha I understand that reaction

[indigo wadi]

That entire storyline is so messed up. I could name one easy fix that would have made it 10x better

[wispy plover]

The match itself looked good though wrestling-wise

[indigo wadi]

That I have no doubt

but yeah, in terms of watching, I'm only really keeping up with news and results.

Though the AEW ppv was apparently fantastic

[light locust]

nerdz

[wispy plover]

I haven't gotten to follow up on that one yet.

Yes

This place is full of nerdz

[ivory schooner]

I swear to god youtube keeps giving me videos of the same channel with ai photoshops of thor crying with red text next to him saying "it's over" I checked the channel, there are 11 videos in a row that all look the same, 200k views each, im so tired of seeing that shit so i hit "not interested" but it keeps showing up

[placid plover]

damn

[indigo wadi]

great PPV but some very sadge news

[earnest spire]

use dont recommend channel

[flat root]

Who is even watching this stuff...

[indigo wadi]

Drama watchers

[wispy plover]

noooo ok i go look up before Thor streams

[indigo wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/adam-cole-josiah-williams-entrance-boom-wwe-gif-24336991

[shadow dawn]

"Do not recommend channel" is the way to go on that

[gloomy forge]

you're so based to watch Digital Eclipse.

[flat root]

Like, I get it if it were something fresh and new, like, new drama coming out in somewhere unexpected.
But this has to be either making stuff up, digging at the bottom of the barrel, or simply repeating the same points over and over again.

How do people find that entertaining enough to spend so long on watching?

[indigo wadi]

Ty but legit never watched em before LOL

thats the algo pushin em towards me

probably because I've been watching video game quizzes lately

[gloomy forge]

I basically stopped caring about the drama, I sometimes see a video but its rare that I'm that interested.

[edgy oar]

There's a lot of reasons people will watch drama so much. It's fun for some to dig into other people's lives, especially those who are successful. Other times it's a distraction from their own problems.

[indigo wadi]

I'm very much over the drama. I canno tolerate to hear the nonsense

[ivory schooner]

i'd love to stop thinking about it but the stream chat doesnt help me forget

[edgy oar]

I've probably used the "do not recommend" channel button the most in these last few weeks

[placid plover]

bread goblin? are u here to steal my bread? pls dont

[wispy plover]

noooooo

[edgy oar]

I steal bread, I make bread, I eat bread

[indigo wadi]

Yeah. Health issues. Not a retirement, thankfully but probably along the lines of Kenny Omega type health concerns

[placid plover]

[wispy plover]

Yeah he's had a rough past few years

[indigo wadi]

Poor guy. He's such a great talent. A shame the last few years have been blah for him. Injuries, splitting up with Baker

[gloomy forge]

I recommend not reading too much into it, mods do a great job keeping things clean.

[indigo wadi]

You can minimize chat

[minor nymph]

https://x.com/PirateSoftware/status/1944637756606435465

Pirate Software (@PirateSoftware)

Got a second camera setup in the rescue. Going to hook it up to channel points when I have time so you can swap between them. Testing network setup for when we have the facility built. Feels good man.

https://t.co/OdSr0u7cpI

X · Jul 14, 2025, 5:59 AM

[gloomy forge]

But what would happen if you become the bread?

[edgy oar]

I ascend

[indigo wadi]

don't you mean....rise?

[gloomy forge]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-harvey-gif-7572440352158644666

[edgy oar]

But I don't think goblin flavored bread would be yummy.

[placid plover]

bread 👍

[wispy plover]

I have ferrets open on one screen and sumo on another screen.

dual chill time

[gloomy forge]

Wait you also watch midnight sumo?

what the hell.

[indigo wadi]

I did have it on

[gloomy forge]

The same as me right now at least for a while, watched the ferrets for a bit but its also gaming streams and sumo

[wispy plover]

Hell yeah I do. Not as much recently as priorities have been different, but we are on Day 2 of the July tournament. Always a good time to start watching again.

[indigo wadi]

boom

[jolly sky]

Feels

Good

Man

[gloomy forge]

Yeah I also watch the seasons if I have time, sumo is peak.

I remember when midnightsumo had like 30 viewers.

[indigo wadi]

how much food does a sumo wrestler eat?

[wispy plover]

I only found his channel through watching Thor last year once I found Thor's streams.

[minor nymph]

That feel when they claim this dude is the only one that pauses for ads LOL
https://x.com/yoxics/status/1944566176769814566

yoxic (@yoxics)

FaZe Rug is the only Streamer who pauses his entire stream when an ad plays so his fans don’t miss anything ❤️‍🩹

X · Jul 14, 2025, 1:14 AM

[indigo wadi]

roflmao

[gloomy forge]

where I'm coming form we say "he doesn't know PepeLaugh"

honestly pausing for ads is what more people should do.

[indigo wadi]

100%

[gloomy forge]

Some do.

[wispy plover]

I know a handful of smaller streamers that also pause during ads. It's a good gesture, and an appreciated one.

[indigo wadi]

TV shows effectively would

[ocean agate]

i honestly try to avoid, Only, Always, Never, or any thing that defines it like that since there is no way in hell i would know if thats true or not for anything

[gloomy forge]

I watch a 62 year old streamer who plays old games on original PC hardware, think windows 98 compatible games. he does it similarly.

[jolly sky]

Salty Bet is another good stream. Pitting crazy custom characters against each other in Mugen, shit like Ronald McDonald vs Shrek and other nonsense

[wispy plover]

Still, typical of them to, as much as I hate this word, "glaze" a FaZe streamer.

[golden mirage]

I wouldn't say Thor is the only or first streamer to pause for ads but he is the first one that I've come across.

[gloomy forge]

i sometimes try to time it to watch exhibition fights but I kinda stopped watching saltybet.

[indigo wadi]

Thor was the only one I knew of that paused for ads

[gloomy forge]

I'm kinda new to anything piratesoftware, wouldn't suprise me though if he was one of the first.

[jolly sky]

I thought FaZe actually died ages ago

[gloomy forge]

I heard something about faze once in a blue moon but I don't remember anything at all. I only associated them with the whole noscope meme thing.

[indigo wadi]

Didn't one of the FaZe members go off the deep end?

WHY IS TOMMY LEE JONES IN JAPANESE COMMERCIALS?

[gloomy forge]

Japanese people love Tommy Lee Jones.

[indigo wadi]

Do they really?

[wispy plover]

I'm reminded of them every once in a while, usually cus I see their logo plastered on something, and I usually just kinda... eye roll. Nothing against them really, I just don't care for streamer orgs like that. Usually loaded with toxicity or some kinda scandal.

[wispy plover]

Tommy Lee Jones japanese commercials are gold

Look up Boss Coffee

[indigo wadi]

But are they long man gold?

[gloomy forge]

yeah I wanted to type that

[wispy plover]

They are in the same league imo

[gloomy forge]

of course you bring up the long long man.

[indigo wadi]

😄

[wispy plover]

https://tenor.com/view/long-man-sakeru-gummy-shocked-gif-17662687

[indigo wadi]

that arc is a trip

better than twilight

[toxic rampart]

I genuinely thought they just became a brand of sorts.
Like after they became the name in eSports early they just rode that to the bank.

Didn't even know they streamed or whatever.

No shade.
Just.. huh. They are still doing the thing.

Speaking of names turned to branding.
Do I dare look up what Fatal1ty is doing?
Lmao

[gloomy forge]

oh whats he been dong? Last game I followed him was UT2004.

[toxic rampart]

Just selling that name still. That's as far as I'll go lol
Good for him I guess.

[gloomy forge]

I mean like day9 hes amongst the OGs.

[indigo wadi]

and his bro

[gloomy forge]

yeah true, wasn't he a popular caster in South Korea?

[indigo wadi]

Yup

[gloomy forge]

Oh nice, my memory works still.

Anyone remember idra

[indigo wadi]

YES

[gloomy forge]

yeah that guy.

[indigo wadi]

https://www.pcgamesn.com/starcraft/starcraft-2-pro-player-idra-i-am-not-going-continue-competitive-player

mfw i see ItmeJP show up in an article from 12 years ago

[gloomy forge]

Yeah some twitch streamers have had careers its kinda crazy.

[indigo wadi]

something tells me he doesn't stream anymore

[flint yarrow]

That makes me remember iNcontrol and TB playing a dark heresy campaign with JP way back when and now I'm sad.

[indigo wadi]

I HATED iNcontrol.

his attitude always came off as incredibly arrogant to me. I couldn't stand him

[gloomy forge]

KEKW at least you say it directly without mincing words

just how you feel.

[indigo wadi]

ain't here to sugarcoat

[flint yarrow]

Fair point

[indigo wadi]

you want sugar, go to a 5 and dime

[flint yarrow]

Nothing wrong with that

[gloomy forge]

I dunno, he came off as very nice but it was SC2 where most were gigatoxic.

[indigo wadi]

Precisely where it came from

I couldn't see past it

[flint yarrow]

Competetive games tend to bring out the worst in people

[indigo wadi]

GLARES AT ONLYFANGS

[flint yarrow]

That's just WoW big brother really

[gloomy forge]

SC2 was a special case. idra said the r-word bomb more than probably any other term.

[indigo wadi]

back when it was semi-acceptable

but it was on it's way out

[gloomy forge]

yeah including the whole drama aspect of streamers mingling with each other and all. Big Brother for gamers really is accurate.

Yeah but I doubt most care, many people still say it. I kinda grew out of it and many others as well.

[indigo wadi]

I don't agree with it as a slur, but as a medical term, I think it's fine. I get why ppl aren't comfortable with it though.

Being born in 1982, I'm in that weird area where medical acceptable language of yesteryear isn't acceptable today and it puts me in a weird spot

[gloomy forge]

Even as a medical term it is a tiny bit icky, theres a lot of words that describe a learning deficit. But if you mena Biological, chemical and physical then saying it is actually good. it simply means "to hinder" or to "to halt".

[indigo wadi]

Yeah

[gloomy forge]

and thats obviously valid in terms of medication and also physics.

[indigo wadi]

and like, I'm not advocating for the return of older, harsher language, but seeing how language has come over the past 30 years and I shake my head at some of it.

[wispy plover]

I also grew up around toxic environments and toxic people. I eventually broke myself out and away from using terms like that.

Wanna know what really made that word uncomfortable for me? It was actually watching other onlyfangs streamers.

It is every other word out of a lot of their mouths

[gloomy forge]

I mean for better or for worse having social rules that doesn't allow for certain words is alright. Imagine talking like a caveman when every argument just becomes "your mom". With that said, if you already know in the back of your head that no online interaction is valid why even bother.

[indigo wadi]

it's like that now though 😛

[flint yarrow]

Your mom has been the staple counter to any argument for all my life of 35 years

That ain't changing

[gloomy forge]

Yeah true, it just "changed skin". I meant that more in a social cohesion sense where you talked to people just to roast each other in a banter way. I feel the best thing about online interactions nowadays is that people became better in reading the room. If the talk is serious people trend to not show their worst.

[wispy plover]

Your MOM has been the staple coun-- wait

[gloomy forge]

for the nuke that ends all arguments where you always win just mix your mom with a ligma joke together. gigastromp

[flint yarrow]

Can go off on my mom all you like. I am immune by virtue of not being on speaking terms with my mom. I will likely join in 😛

[indigo wadi]

nah, depending on who the argument is with, THE NUKE is always the C word

[ocean agate]

oh.....i got auto modded.....guess thats why you said r-word....but it took me forever to figure out what that word was

[indigo wadi]

LOL

[gloomy forge]

Yeah saying the c-word to someone who primarily codes in c++ can be rather bad.

[ocean agate]

i even blurted it aloud when i fgured it out

[gloomy forge]

it happens.

[indigo wadi]

Speaking about Your Mom

[ocean agate]

to me words are not important its the hate ment behind them that is

[gloomy forge]

your mom is so dense she might as well be a anime protagonist, etc.

[indigo wadi]

Your mom is so dense, the acme anvil is the replacement prop when she's sick

[wispy plover]

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrating-funny-thanos-gif-22399978

[gloomy forge]

a better roast would be to add "replacement lightweight model"

[ocean agate]

poor mom

[indigo wadi]

that's how he was born

[sand solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/piratesoftware-thor-i-hate-you-internet-gif-4950465273846404545

[gloomy forge]

no bully.

[indigo wadi]

lol

❤️

I kid

[gloomy forge]

[indigo wadi]

have you ever been so dead that you just can't come back alive?

[wispy plover]

psh... Ohio isn't real.

[indigo wadi]

no that's oklahoma

[wispy plover]

I WISH it wasn't real

[indigo wadi]

No that's Arkansas

[wispy plover]

Agree, but I feel like Arkansas has done less to me personally

Also, lets not forget Florida. Home of "That can't be real..."

[flint yarrow]

Florida might as well be another dimension as someone from the outside looking in (as in Europe)

[indigo wadi]

Florida is the matrix glitch of this simulation

[wispy plover]

I just got an ad on the ferret channel for Hamsters

Like I think it was for bedding or food or something. I didn't look too close at what it was selling. Just that there were hampter

[ocean agate]

new merch?

[winged knoll]

First try?

[flint yarrow]

And here my mind went to some '"Buy hamsters now, 10% Discount on purchases of 3 or more hamsters" kinda ad

[wispy plover]

Buy 3 hampter, get a 4th thrown in for free.

I'm gonna name him Freebie. :3

[proud tundra]

Hell no lol took me a couple probably 2 hours since each attempt was around 10-15 mins

[ocean agate]

does it have to be thrown....seems a bit harsh

[wispy plover]

Is it wrong I thought that immediately after I typed it?

[ocean agate]

no

[gloomy forge]

its buyers remorse but with your own thoughts.

[winged knoll]

That's still good, took me total of 5 hours

[ocean agate]

i pictured it like a basketball player bagging grocieries...1...2...3...FOUR POINTER

[wispy plover]

Thanks I hate it lmao

[gloomy forge]

"Get dunked on!"
"Sir, this is a hamster it won't understand you even if you tried"

[winged knoll]

oh because i was playing on hardest difficulty too

the whole fight took like 30-40 mins for me

[gloomy forge]

I should play E33 but I am spend on games and all the playthroughs I watched. Fantastic game.

[ocean agate]

7s confirmed

[proud tundra]

Dude I’m so mad …. Tell me why this whole time this whole time I thought I was playing on expert difficulty…. I just checked right now

[gloomy forge]

This year already had so many good releases already, insane year IMHO.

[winged knoll]

yeah haha, 17 mins i think is a bit short, but you didn't miss much tbh

[proud tundra]

17 mins felt like an eternity I can’t imagine having to perfect parry for 40 mins straight 😂 sounds like torture

[winged knoll]

boss have x2 exp and parry window is shorter, otherwise it's the same thing

[winged knoll]

I don't, i cheesed

[proud tundra]

How so ?

[winged knoll]

i used Monoco's to give everyone's shield

so i had multiple chances to feck up

My Monoco basically used 2 skills only to recycle the wheel

and i stacked up 9 shields at the start, Sprong weren't able to touch me

[proud tundra]

Oh okay makes sense I haven’t gotten around to using monoco I just got so used to lune verso and maelle

[winged knoll]

but the fight were brutal

[proud tundra]

How much dmg where you doing ?

[winged knoll]

9999

uh i can't recall how much

[proud tundra]

So in expert bosses have more health ?

[winged knoll]

yeah

2x

and smaller parry window

[proud tundra]

Shit that’s crazy on my screenshot it said sprong had 2 mill health and that’s just normal difficulty

[winged knoll]

been a while since i played, i could remember it wrong

come to think of it, Simon is less than 150M

@proud tundra 4M HP accoring to interweb

[carmine birch]

[indigo wadi]

THE ENTIRE DRAMA TROLLS

[gloomy forge]

Maybe a bit unrelalted but what has been your guys fav game or gaming experience this year so far? Can be a game not from this year alone.

[proud tundra]

That’s bonkers

[proud tundra]

For me Skyrim it came out when I was in middle school it introduced me to rpgs I played that shit nonstop and you ?

[gloomy forge]

Not to take the image too serious, but sometimes people don't really know the line between knowing and not knowing. Some know but are misinformed. Happens to everyone. Its always best to be humble and educate others should you know more, but not make it your life goal.

[ocean agate]

i cant play a lot of games but one i always go back to is Guild Wars 2

[winged knoll]

xcom 2 - long war of the chosen (mod)

[wispy plover]

Sir, this is the internet. We're all experts.

[placid plover]

either division 2 or helldivers 2

[winged knoll]

easily spent 1000+ hours on that bad boy

[gloomy forge]

My tastes aren't that mainstream. Look Outside was phenomenal/"This game changed my life" kinda thing, but I've been playing White Knuckle which is just an insane game.

And yeah I always came back to modded skyrim always a comfy time.

[ocean agate]

there is a bell curve iirc where people know enough to think they are experts, and think experts are hiding shit or lying

[gloomy forge]

Look Outside is peak indie/creative writing.

[winged knoll]

oh you are the ice cream guy

🍦

[gloomy forge]

Yeah nice that you remember me a lot has happened I also bought ice cream again and ate it already.

Thank you for being so considerate.

[winged knoll]

aw yish 🍦

[ocean agate]

now i must retrieve some mochi mango ice cream from my freezer...thanks for that @winged knoll

[prime crest]

Probably spent the most time playing Hitman trilogy. Absolute peak game to try and optimize strategies.
Whole life best experience would be Gothic 1/Gothic 2

[gloomy forge]

Yeah dunning-kruger stuff. But its more like social cues. Sometimes its difficult to understand if you really know enough about a topic or not. Its a fine line to walk. A lot of experts also don't consider themselves true experts.

[sand solstice]

For some reason Smith's is serving strawberry mochi next to the sushi they make

[gloomy forge]

I love gothic 1 and 2. Mytarna is such a fascinating world and Gothic 1 has atmosphere equal to how oppressive half life 1 felt.

also modding the game is peak.

[prime crest]

I'm doing a 4th playthrough of Archolos too, this time with a Russian voiceover for a change.

[gloomy forge]

Archolos is such a well crafted game on its own. I never finished it though but watched people play.

recently I played a game called Shakedown Hawaii which is like a 2d GTA/oldschool GTA like game but its so lovely with amazing eye to detail.

from what I heard the game took like 7 years to make.

[prime crest]

It's a bit off track if you are used to the Gothic story and experience. But it is still like a Gothic 2.5 just with a different focus in mind

[gloomy forge]

Yeah true, Archolos hits the same vibe and is not just "gothic but characters have different names" copy of the same thing. They understood what makes gothic work and make it their own.

Controversal opinion maybe, but Gothic 3 with mods is incredible.

[prime crest]

Haven't found one that makes it run well yet. It's a good game but works completely different and disregards the story of the first 2 games, so i wouldn't exactly consider it part of the series but yeah. It's just a pain to deal with when half of the gameplay is wiping entire cities and the combat just won't work. You can't exactly go against multiple enemies in Gothic 1/2 either but you can avoid it most of the time.

[muted robin]

Generic answer but baldur's gate 3. Have not loved a game so much since world of warcraft and genuinely thought that I had grown up/gotten too depressed and or cynical to love games like i used to. BG3 destroyed me (in a good way lol) and singlehandedly turns me into a little goblin doing nothing but playing for days straight whenever I get sucked into it

[gloomy forge]

There is the so called "union mod" which is a combined effort of all oldschool and newer modders to put all the mods in one pack and let the players choose from what they wanna use. the leading guy of the mod pack made his own compatibility patches for everything. Theres also new compatibility patches.

[muted robin]

Want to play the oblivion remake but keep putting it off for some reason. Similar status of game in terms of "game of my childhood" and one of my favorite fantasy IPs

[gloomy forge]

Have you played the previous baldurs gate titles? they're also phenomenal.

[muted robin]

I have not but I would just based on my exp with BG3 and people saying the prev were good too

Also bg3 got me into dnd and while I've only played in one open table campaign i enjoyed it very much and would love to play again if given the chance (and maybe a closed game with fewer people)

[gloomy forge]

Yeah they're since they're the foundation of BG3 but they play different and the rulesets are different too. BG3 is the best approach to modern CRPGs since ever but to be fair only because of the early acces period where larian actually asked and considered players voices.

if something was bad, people complained and some gave contructive criticism to make it better, so they did.

[indigo wadi]

I need to buy BG3

but I find it tough to justify $90

[muted robin]

Do it

I got auto modded for swearing sofkskckd but it's soooooo worth it

Also is it really $90? I thought that like, only the deluxe edition with all the physical merch was that much

[indigo wadi]

gimme $90

[prime crest]

I enjoyed Gothic 3 enough to play through the game once but never really had a rush to do another playthrough. It's just so much less immersive and there is no real story for me to want to see a different playthrough. Besides i got to try both melee and magic in one playthrough and ranged just doesn't work so i basically already tried all options.

[muted robin]

My first campaign alone I got like 150 hours before finishing it and I'm pretty sure I missed half of what there was to do in acts 2 and 3

[gloomy forge]

I remember when people/testers said BG3 is gonna be garbage and slowly the testers were like "holymoly its actually gonna be good" like 8 months before it released. It was early access done right. people should listen to players voices more and consider what some people have to say. I still believe they have godly community managers at larian.

[prime crest]

This is how i feel about 40 different games right now, but i also am not playing another 40 games already purchased in my steam library.

[gloomy forge]

Yeah me too, and then I usually just say "meh I just replay [INSERT GAME HERE]."

[indigo wadi]

We have too much entertainment and we get stressed about it.

[muted robin]

Also honorable mention to Minecraft for soothing me through the last semester or so of my uni degree and being really pleasing and calming to my adhd brain

[indigo wadi]

we get stressed over something that supposed to be relaxing

W T F

[muted robin]

Something about the sandbox + progression and the way you problem solve to progress and decide what you want to build is very engaging to me

Also I played in a self imposed challenge (caves only) that I feel also made it fun because restrictions = more creativity for me

Minecraft is one of those games i only play once or twice a year but when I do I'm doing pretty much nothing else BUT playing it

[prime crest]

Honorable mention to Minecraft for wasting around 10000 hours of my life

[gloomy forge]

Yeah thats some mouse utopia kinda situation. the more you have, the more you get overwhelmed to have

you either want more or you kinda turn crazy/have a epiphany and require less over time.

[indigo wadi]

"i HAVE to watch all these movies. I HAVE to play all these games."

Since when and why have we placed such ridiculous stresses on ourselves?

[ocean agate]

i have choice paralysis

[prime crest]

i have to fill my day with something, let's do it with existential dread

[gloomy forge]

For me, playing a game was always part of the experience. I travled long distances to buy or trade games for cheap back then. Finding the game was just as fun as playing it. Or finding a pristine version of the Diablo 1 instruction manual.

Back when instruction manuals were written with love

[indigo wadi]

• 30+ on Console (maybe closer to 400).

I would love to be able to play them all, but am I going to be able to? I have no idea. I would love to.

but for some games, what counts as completing them? Like this game

[opaque raven]

From what I see on my friends I believe there is a lack of "I am satisfied"

[gloomy forge]

Yeah, I feel just taking your time instead of chasing new shiny thing does anyone good. I try to play the games I buy so I at least have a few hours clocked in. I think people need to readjust their values and find fun in small things.

[indigo wadi]

AND THEN MY ADHD BUSTS IN AND GOES "NEW SHINY THING, GO PLAY"

[prime crest]

Schedule I was very good for the first 20 hours

[indigo wadi]

I do think I'm gonna set a new objective and try to go through my steam library

[indigo wadi]

oh and never mind the games that try to have you squeeze everything out of it

[prime crest]

Just achievement hunting when the game had easy achievements

it was all good for the first 1m$

[winged knoll]

hmm it's only 40$ (local price) for me, and the store page is 60$

[gloomy forge]

Hopefully I don't sound too wise or anything. I remember in january I watched the ferret stream for the first time and I was like "What the heck is this, lmao" and a few months later " thats so cool it exists and its also unique, time to lurk for a hour". What I mean, sometimes seeing good things in even small aspects you never cared about makes you see things from a different perspective and suddenly you find fun where you haven't realized it before.

applies to games just as much.

[tight bramble]

The ferret streams are truly wonderful ❤️

[winter sierra]

Mhm

I would know

[tight bramble]

When you watch the abyss coil and writhe, sometimes the abyss notices and starts wardancing.

[light locust]

hey is anyone on YT stream? petty sure im muted on YT - can I get one of you to confirm? plz

[tight bramble]

Im here. Type something

[gloomy forge]

I remember being so mad with friends when I lost the scoreattack and ranking and wasn't #1 now what matters most for me is "did everyone enjoy themselves "

[light locust]

I sent "discord test"

[tight bramble]

Nope 😞

[gloomy forge]

Maybe sending a modticket will help? Maybe a mod can resolve the issue.

[light locust]

im ok if im muted - nbd - just checking - I do be gobloin azz things

[light locust]

No visual on ur side?

[tight bramble]

Nada

[light locust]

alright - welp so be it shrugs

[ocean agate]

youtube or twitch?

[light locust]

YT

[gloomy forge]

I feel the need to make a your mom joke now in chat but mods will ban me on sight.

"Your mom is so fat if she runs ads Thor is gonna wait for twice as long."

[light locust]

I should come with a do not engage warring label - so its ok lol

[gloomy forge]

I just posted the joke here mods ban

[light locust]

can anyone point me in the direction to find out wut dumb chit I said to get me muted?

[wispy plover]

Youtube side works a lot different for bans, shadowbans, chat in general, etc. I'd put in a ticket. Assuming you did nothing wrong, of course.

[light locust]

eeeeh I mighta done something

[distant rapids]

Why do we insult peoples mothers. Lets just target the person themselves, why bring family member into this- you're so rotund you can win dance dance revolution by standing still

[waxen comet]

Stonehearth, lets me create my own town with my little colonists with their jobs
wish there was something like that rn

[light locust]

I dont know what but my jokes dont always land

[gloomy forge]

Ohhh I heard about the game, some people say its a fantastic roguelike.

like in a literal sense, turn based rogue experience. also seems to be really deep with lots of skill variety.

[waxen comet]

cause culturally mothers are well respected and cared for by their sons or daughters
insulting their mother usually angers them more bec they can take the punches but they dont want to see the insults get directed to their mothers

[waxen comet]

thats
the wrong game bud

[light locust]

https://tenor.com/view/mama-trash-talk-excuse-me-what-did-you-say-marlon-wayans-gif-4944937

[waxen comet]

stonehearth is far from a turn based gameplay

[gloomy forge]

https://tenor.com/view/fat-angry-excited-dance-wave-gif-12355339

[distant rapids]

I consider it cowardly redirection, insult the person directly

[waxen comet]

youre thinking of a different game most likely

[gloomy forge]

no filter. But yeah if people are just mudslinging and super dishonest just insult them back. No need to mince words. Between friends its just jokes.

[light locust]

lol I wonder if I buy a YT sub if it lets me chat - lol- I just wanna beat the system - idc about chating

[indigo wadi]

What's funny is the C-Word originally stood for Queen

[waxen comet]

C word?

oh

the bad C word

the one that ends with nt

[ocean agate]

clearily u never tried?

[waxen comet]

i was thinking of a different C word

[gloomy forge]

So nice to watch chat and reading peoples reasonable takes also comfy coding.

[waxen comet]

hot take: the sun is hot

[indigo wadi]

You jinxed it

[ocean agate]

the sun cannot feel anything there for the sun itself cannot be hot..... /s

[waxen comet]

even hotter take: the plate of your food after you microwave it

[shadow dawn]

Only the plate

[gloomy forge]

counter jinx, maybe I wrote that statement in bad faith

D:

[waxen comet]

hottest take: soup

[winged knoll]

what is CDN$?

[gloomy forge]

especially if you eat it while the stove is still on.

[ocean agate]

soup sounds good

[winged knoll]

oh, Canadian Dollar

[gloomy forge]

I make my own soup

always peak

[waxen comet]

i thought it was a setup to c deez nuts

[flint yarrow]

It's cadian dollars. Discontinued since cadia went boom

[gloomy forge]

What game is this from? I should know this.

[waxen comet]

60 seconds

[indigo wadi]

60 parsecs

[waxen comet]

to soemthing

idr

[wispy plover]

https://tenor.com/view/soup-im-at-the-soup-store-code-geass-suzaku-gif-15107405

[distant rapids]

60 seconds to live?

[gloomy forge]

Ohhh yeah! Seen it actually thats why I knew.

[waxen comet]

close enough

it was 60 somthing

[winged knoll]

Average thor viewers smh

[waxen comet]

funny cause i dont watch thor livestreams

[winged knoll]

The goblin lord tainted you

[waxen comet]

in fact, i rarely watch livestreams at all

cant seem to stand it

[distant rapids]

Behold

[winged knoll]

I went there and i got hit with a mind goblim

[winged knoll]

Thrube

[distant rapids]

Thube

[muted robin]

Who's steve jobs?

[winged knoll]

Apple ceo

[gloomy forge]

Thor should play the horse game.

[waxen comet]

he hasnt?

[tribal canyon]

Former CEO*

[waxen comet]

horse game is super fun

[outer cobalt]

you serious or?

[waxen comet]

its a joke

[gloomy forge]

maybe if you sleep and have very weird dreams then thor perhaps has played the horse game.

[waxen comet]

its originally from the joke format:
its so sad that steve jobs died of ligma
who the hell is steve jobs
ligma balls
background character: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[winged knoll]

The community is a bit unfrenly imo, they gatekeep alot

[gentle mortar]

mind goblin deez nuts GOTEEEEM

[winged knoll]

So he skip the punchline or i did

[waxen comet]

well tbf they keep getting into the community and basically pushing their own ideology or whatever in it

but all ive seen about uma musume wasnt really that toxic

[gloomy forge]

Wait what? The umamusume community is unfriendly or piratesoftware? I felt most people that play it are fine, most don't even want to play for the gacha.

[winged knoll]

Uma community

[waxen comet]

yea havent seen that much unfriendly company for uma people

[gloomy forge]

Yeah thats why I'm confused, all the streams I've watched were people laughing at the game, criticizing or praising gacha/waifus, weebs or "the streamer sucks even at this game"

[waxen comet]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-gold-ship-gif-20842560

[winged knoll]

They recently went after Tectone, NorthenLion for his take on Blue Archive

[waxen comet]

ok to be fairrrr

tectone is notorious in the gacha gaming scene

[winged knoll]

True

[waxen comet]

many a gacha community do not want to be associated with him because of his takes and his actions

the first to denounce him was the arknight community, basically telling some small bits of misinformation that was decently damaging due to the nature of how gacha works

ive not heard of northernlions take on BA

[gloomy forge]

Thats so rediculous. Maybe I'm old fashioned but whats wrong with letting streamers have fun.

streamers getting flak for saying the most inoffensive stuff kinda seems weird.

[indigo wadi]

no fun, only drama and toxicity

[gloomy forge]

and I thought Northernlion is "the streamer only employed chatters watch" so why is there unemployed behavior

[indigo wadi]

Depends on how you asked

[gloomy forge]

HUH, usually problems get resolved pretty fast.

[indigo wadi]

and this is probably why you got banned

[gloomy forge]

I also got banned once but they knew I was sarcastic and unbanned me in a few seconds.

[indigo wadi]

He's never claimed to be a game dev for 20 years

[gentle mortar]

lot of people are asking it in a bad faith

[flint yarrow]

Well you have misinformation in that right there so that's likely why

[indigo wadi]

so you're clearly coming off as a troll

[gloomy forge]

I get the frustration, things are kinda heated right now.

[gentle mortar]

!script

[dapper raven]

Hello, my name is thor, i've been in the gaming industry for 20 years. I used to make games at blizzard, then at Amazon Games Studio, then hacked power plants for the D.O.E, I was a pen tester. Now I own my own studio called PirateSoftware and I stream here on twitch.

[indigo wadi]

gaming industry != dev

[flint yarrow]

20 years in industry is not 20 years of dev my dude.

[gentle mortar]

gaming industry, NOT game dev

[drowsy goblet]

being in the industry is not the same as being a game dev

[winged knoll]

Basically he commented on the recent Blue Archive drama when they boost their reviews on steam by doing event in game for goodies

[indigo wadi]

not a 20 year dev

try again

[winged knoll]

“I work in game industry for 20 years
I am now game dev”

[indigo wadi]

nah, your attitude clearly shows you're not interested in a dialogue, only stirring up drama. Toodles.

[winged knoll]

Reading comprehension is uncommon nowadays

[gentle mortar]

nope, he asks now genuinely

[waxen comet]

oh yea that against steam tos

[gentle mortar]

sure let's talk, just dont insult, that'S the reason lot of people are getting banned, lot of them just want to have a jab instead of discussion

[indigo wadi]

You assumed he was a game dev of 20 years, so yeah, you are takin whatever news you hear

[winged knoll]

Ego mean “I”, fyi

And everyone has an I

So of course it’s common

[gloomy forge]

Man that escalated quickly.

[indigo wadi]

you're 2nd comment here

[gentle mortar]

here

[winged knoll]

It does sound like you are trying to stir shits lol

Let’s start again

[indigo wadi]

nah, I'm good.

log a mod ticket if you want an unban

[earnest spire]

then put in a unban

[indigo wadi]

or do it via unban request on twitch

[rose echo]

You guys are jumping him and approaching in bad faith, I'm sorry to say. I get that there's tensionand such, but come on. You can do better.

[indigo wadi]

cool

[indigo wadi]

Yeah, bad faith, sure

[gentle mortar]

to be fair, that sentence has been repeated over and over and when these people were chalenged, they started insulting

[gloomy forge]

yeah things do be kinda heated now. Its a shame though.

[rose echo]

Yes, someone can say something like that and not be here to troll. Bonkers, I know.

[indigo wadi]

Comes in here, being insulting, but we're the bad faith ones 🙄

I have, zero reason to be insulting, period

[winged knoll]

Okay i take a full 10 seconds, still think it’s justified

[indigo wadi]

you're still insulting

zero reason to insult, period

[gloomy forge]

I'm sure many people here can also answer the question. You think his code is bad?

[rose echo]

@rocky drift I'd say back down for now, unfortunately. Things will only escalate like this.

[indigo wadi]

Nah, I just have no tolerance for people that throw insults around willy nilly instead of being mature adults

[rose echo]

You're not in the wrong, but you will end up banned from here if the regulars get upset by you, unfortunately.

[indigo wadi]

Anyways, going back to my game

[rose echo]

Most people do that, but you're being selective with your attention towards that.

[proud depot]

Did heimdall's levels not reset from yesterday or did it really catch 113 people in an hour?

[indigo wadi]

Tell me what part of him calling the mod team, losers, doesn't put him in the wrong?

[wispy plover]

It's counting mod bans, and YT bans if I understand right.

So yes, it is accurate

[gloomy forge]

Theres a video that is really good that criticises Thors code WHILE understanding the context of the ARG and both priases but also criticises Thors programming skills and goes deeper into the underlying reasoning on why Heartbound is programmed the way it is.

If you want to see a level headed critic that goes both sides I can post that here.

[rose echo]

He can disagree with an action and find it to be a loser thing. It's an opinion. He could be more respectful, sure. But at most that should warrant someone telling him to be more respectful, given the tension. Not whatever you and others did.

[gentle mortar]

ok buddy

[rose echo]

You're wrong on that, but you do you bud.

[opaque raven]

From what I understood the unban request was already sent.
Just leave it here

[winged knoll]

Ok buddy

[indigo wadi]

No, being insulting, while an opinion, is not allowed. Period. That puts him in the wrong. If you defend such behaviour, you are no better.

[earnest spire]

yup people just believe what they believe

[flint yarrow]

I usually don't engage in stuff I don't care about but you do you

[golden latch]

https://tenor.com/view/ligma-ligmaballs-steve-jobs-gif-23777201

[rose echo]

If everyone got jumped and approached like that, at the first sign of being offensive, this would be twitter.

[indigo wadi]

again, you came in, being insulting.

and you call me a stone wall.

sure you did

you insulted, period

[wispy plover]

Thanks mods

[proud depot]

what was his criticism?

[indigo wadi]

Anyways.

[proud depot]

or was it just an insult

[indigo wadi]

asking about Thor's experience as a 20 year game dev

[gentle mortar]

ye that last long message, they digged their grave with that one

[indigo wadi]

got banned on twitch

[earnest spire]

that thor has no coding experience

[indigo wadi]

came in here, posted what I showed

[winged knoll]

I insults mod not Thor hurrdurr

[worthy trench]

hey this is maybe a stupid question but where can you see the heimdal counter?

[indigo wadi]

119

on stream

when it procs

[wispy plover]

Top right corner

[worthy trench]

oh that's it thanks

[winged knoll]

Randomly pop up when someone got banned

Top left corner

[winged knoll]

Wait did it move

[gentle mortar]

left corner

[indigo wadi]

yea

was top left

[winged knoll]

Or do you mean Thor’s right

[gentle mortar]

wait wha? oh ok

[indigo wadi]

yes 😏

[wispy plover]

Top right.

I'm not crazy lol...

thank god

[winged knoll]

Why did he moves

[wispy plover]

It's usually in the left

[worthy trench]

[gloomy forge]

But to be fair, saying "some loser shit" doesn't seem to leave a good first impression. I get your frustration though, especially if you get banned IMMEDIATLY after asking stuff.

But on the other hand its not fair saying "everyone is ego driven" when theres tons of people who have different opinions on here.

Also just because you said an opinion doesn't mean others have to accept that opinion at face value. Thinking like that is narcissistic. If I say stuff and people say "you're wrong and here is why" than thats not being a brick wall.

[proud depot]

wait do you mean as if from thor's perspective? weird

[opaque raven]

I mean, I get the fact that some people might get very upset about being banned for something they believe was a genuine question

[wispy plover]

I think cus the UI has the hype train stuff

[opaque raven]

But thn again, the unban request was made and that's it

[proud depot]

not gonna bother with the hype trains until there's more emotes to grab

[rose echo]

They're gone, but I agree at least.

[flint yarrow]

Gonna have to watch for that one coming up on khronos unban request stream

I have a feeling it will prove correct

[gloomy forge]

You can have people disrespectfully disagreeing with each other and not be an echo chamber. Its weird that some people assume that non echo chambers must only fight.

[gloomy forge]

Yeah I wrote too slowly, blame my slow fingers and me fixing typos

[flint yarrow]

Heck disagreeing is pretty normal. Not gonna be 100% on board with everything by everyone

[winged knoll]

I have a mutual agreement with you that ice cream is pog

[gentle mortar]

if you lose your shit after ban and start insulting mods, you already showed, that you're not someone to reasonably disscus with, when I think about it

[proud depot]

you'd think someone who was just banned from the twitch chat would try to have a nicer demeanor to the mods

[winged knoll]

[flint yarrow]

Don't understand immediate insult slinging

[gloomy forge]

If we can turn that into a contract/license agreement I'm game on that.

[proud depot]

yeah immediately going hostile after being banned kind of shows your personality as short tempered

[wispy plover]

Nah dude. The best way to prove what a nice guy™ you are is to go "I'm not being a jerk to the streamer. Just his mods."

Salt of the earth right there

[flint yarrow]

I was also typing a paragraph but saw them disappear in time to not make a fool out of myself by typing more 😄

[opaque raven]

Ye, as I said, the ticket was open, just wait a little bit
I suppose it's not absurdly uncommon for unbans to happen anyway
But I suppose the stress is less about the ban itself and more about the reason or not understanding what they believe was a genuine question

[flint yarrow]

If I ever end up properly banned somewhere that'll be a defining moment because that's a first outside of misfires

[gloomy forge]

I'm the fool now

[rose echo]

If you believe you're getting treated unjustly, then seem to be treated with next to no tolerance from the "community" (obviously just a few people in this case), it can be quite natural to give up and get convinced of the bad impression, because no one really tried to diffuse the situation and just kept escalating it.

People are quick to jump on things on both sides.

[gloomy forge]

I tried to but its rough when theres many people disagreeing.

[rose echo]

I'm not justifying what he did. Just explaining that it isn't as black and white as it seems to be treated here.

[gloomy forge]

Yeah true.

[rose echo]

Aye, I know. Good on you.

[wispy plover]

I probably wasn't the only one that opened a ticket on that guy. Just gotta wait a bit. Don't get so sucked in that you call of the void yourself.

[flint yarrow]

Coming into a place you know is on fire and adding a little more, even if genuinely curious, is probably not the play

[rose echo]

You have people both claiming that it's not on fire, then treating it like it is. Can't have both.

[wispy plover]

Also I think Jake may be flying solo rn

[rose echo]

It's either okay to discuss things and disagree, and be tolerant to each other. Or it's not.

[indigo wadi]

You get what you give. If you come into a community being insulting, you cannot expect to get treated with kindness. Especially when said community has been on the receiving end of hosilities for months.

[rose echo]

Same goes both ways.

[indigo wadi]

He was clearly not being tolerant by his 2nd message

I didn't insult him, but I ain't playing with kid gloves either.

[gloomy forge]

I feel its not as strongly black or white as you believe it is. sometimes someone being rude isn't being a troll. Most people think of PirateSoftware (the channel itself) as "just a big streamer".

[flint yarrow]

It's been various levels of on fire since january to be fair

[indigo wadi]

Like you gonna sit there and tell me this is perfectly fine/tolerant to take?

[gloomy forge]

And its true that while you usually don't let rude people inside your house. This isn't your house, but Thors house.

[rose echo]

No, and I'd appreciate if you didn't put words in my mouth or try to misconstrue my statements.

[gloomy forge]

Thor tries to be as fair and chariable as possible. I'm new to the community but moderators do the moderation. We're just chatters trying to be nice to others

[indigo wadi]

I'm trying to make a point.

[gloomy forge]

honest to god though, the interaction felt a lot like how SKG people talk when they think "someone is not like us". Just from the very surface level.

Turns into chaos really fast.

And mods have their hands full.

And I also 100% understand that you should've allow rude people to only be rude. but that can be just a veil. just assume people actually have some good faith. Sometimes unraveling that takes a long time.

[indigo wadi]

Eh, I'm just gonna drop any points I was trying to make, I'll just say this.

I'm nice and respectful to those that show it. I'm blunt to those that aren't, but I won't, to the best of my ability, break any of the server rules.

[gloomy forge]

Yeah thats fine, but you also have a lot of power as a chatter. I'm not saying "change yourself", just don't always assume malice to someone who is clearly not deep in the community like you are. I'm also not super deep in it, but I can read the room and understand some of the underlinings considering I already interacted with folks here and understand the situation somewhat.

[indigo wadi]

If someones first few messages contains an insult towards thor or the mod team, I'm less likely to give em the benefit.

[outer cobalt]

nah we've seen polite escalation during the thunderdome days

i think most of us can tell the difference between genuine disagreement and trolling lmao

[rose echo]

The guy in #general_chat currently is getting 100x more tolerance, while clearly trolling

[gloomy forge]

Sometimes, jumping over your own shadow goes a long way. Its not always easy. I just wish arguing about minor things wouldn't be such a hill to die on.

[outer cobalt]

there is trolling negatively and positively

lmao

you can't genuinely believe that malicious trolling is the same as having fun, right?

[indigo wadi]

spouting misinformation is different from straight up being insulting

[rose echo]

The usual song and dance of the hatetrain misinformation. Whether it's in bad faith or not is for the mods to deal with. My point is he's not being jumped like the guy in here got earlier.

[indigo wadi]

that guy isn't calling the mod team a loser, funny that

[outer cobalt]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wispy plover]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[opaque raven]

My honest take is that many of those people would be chill and end up being part of the community if they just vibed a bit and stayed without kicking the door and throwing trash at the floor

[indigo wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-poop-monkey-throw-mad-gif-17790027

amirite?

[gloomy forge]

don't use tha thats bait gif like that it holds a lot of power

[opaque raven]

Mob mentality ruining possible friendships again and again

[rose echo]

Different, sure? But is it any better? Might be just me, but I personally dislike misinformation even more. People naturally insult each other and have to learn to be mature, and even then you can slip. Coming in to purposefully press the misinformation, seemingly knowing quite well what taunts to use, seems more malicious to me. But that's just my view.

[flint yarrow]

Dude in general is baiting and trolling. Dude here came slinging insults in his second message. There is clearly a difference

[indigo wadi]

Misinformation you can fix. Insulting the team that tries to keep this place civil is completely over the line. I cannot fathom why this seems lost on you.

[gloomy forge]

I don't want to really assume the place some critics come from, but if you're young you sometimes say stuff like "x are idiots" or "f the mods" or stuff like that.

[rose echo]

It's not lost on me, we simply disagree on how we interpreted him. At least initially. Later on he was quite clearly, self-admittedly, content with being banned and doubled down on the poor behavior.

[opaque raven]

Sadly some people just start their first impression so badly that ruins the whole thing

[flint yarrow]

And words just like actions come with consequences

[indigo wadi]

freedom of speech != freedom of consequence

Not that there's freedom of speech here

but

[gloomy forge]

The measure of consequence is not on you however.

[indigo wadi]

you get the idea

[gloomy forge]

its on the mods percepting the situation.

[indigo wadi]

me with a ban hammer

[gloomy forge]

ye

I would always wear a helmet if I enter this place if that would be the case.

[indigo wadi]

oh believe me, I'm a mod of 2 discords. I've read situations wrong before and have learned from em

[gloomy forge]

Ohh ok I didn't assume that, your reactions make more sense now.

[opaque raven]

Maybe people get used to live in communities where everyone auto agrees with their ideas and when you go to another place where people are neutral or against, you lack the experience to articulate your thoughts since they've been third partied for so long
I see this happening a lot when people talk about politics for example

[gloomy forge]

and your deicision making in understanding if the chatter was in good faith or bad faith. Form my perspective I just wanna be chariable.

[indigo wadi]

Yeah, I often read em from a mod perspective. I probably shouldn't, but it's just natural for me to do

[distant rapids]

2 mod high five!

[indigo wadi]

[opaque raven]

I mean, there are consequences aside bans or mod actions. Leaving an initial bad impression on the present people are really bad as well

[indigo wadi]

I also know that my behaviors SHOULD be better, but as a regular chatter, eh...

ADHD behaviors be an issue at time

[gloomy forge]

Yeah true, but its also about the place being welcoming. Second chances and all. But I get what you mean. Newcomers should read the room.

I mean I did the same.

[indigo wadi]

100% this

[opaque raven]

People can easily ruin their chances of getting to know and be part of something due to bad attitude, even a bad day

[rose echo]

Context is important in both directions. On one hand, they should've read the room and stuff, yeah, but we should also keep in mind the context of where they're coming from. Obviously in this case, there can be disagreement on whether it was okay or not and so on, but we're lenient here when someone gets fired up, cuz we understand that they're otherwise okay and keep in mind what fired them up. We should afford that to newcomers too.

[opaque raven]

Or an external hype, mob mentality

[outer cobalt]

i think we already do

[rose echo]

Sometimes

[outer cobalt]

i think we kinda always do

at least when im on

[rose echo]

Gtg, food's here

Cya

[gloomy forge]

Its really easy to justify your opinion if someone with influence says "look at this guy and how wrong he is" and that reinforces your perception.

have a nice meal

[indigo wadi]

Disagreements I'm fine with. Insults, not so much.

[flint yarrow]

I'm just here for some entertainment while my work has been stopped in its tracks after a not so successful 2FA rollout across all offices because most of us can't log in now 😄

[gloomy forge]

Yeah true, theres also the argument in tone.

if in doubt, read the rules.

[winged knoll]

[wispy plover]

When the newcomer kicks in the door, comes in, and shits on the rug, I'd argue they made the wrong first impression. There's difference in opinion, and there's whatever the hell that guy did.

[flint yarrow]

It's not even the 2FA being an issue. It reverted accounts to some older password apparently

[gloomy forge]

"• Being A Jerkface
If someone says they are uncomfortable just stop because you are probably being a jerkface without even realizing it.
Name calling, insults, offensive jokes, ridicule, intrusive questioning, gossip, deliberate personal malice, threats, defamation, impersonation, or discrimination of any kind.
Ganging up on someone over the rules can also be a jerkface thing to do. Alert mods and let them handle things. If you're not a moderator don't go grabbing pitchforks!
"

imagine reading the EULA smh my head

[indigo wadi]

Im probably a jerkface more than I realize

[gloomy forge]

IT department intentionally doing that so they have reason to work.

[indigo wadi]

"If you're not a moderator don't go grabbing pitchforks" but....I have all these pitchforks

[flint yarrow]

IT department is swamped with calls. I think everyone might need a password reset

There is a thousand employees

[indigo wadi]

KHRONOS HAS CONTENT

[wispy plover]

I think it's just a short fuse thing. Lower tolerance for BS. Probably from modding elsewhere. I can relate. Just don't stab yourself in the foot with the pitchfork.

[flint yarrow]

I managed to get in with an older password I used. I have told nobody because I'd have to do their work too if I did

[indigo wadi]

Also an ADHD thing 😛

[gloomy forge]

To end that discussion on my end. I feel "both sides" were wrong but to say its 50/50 is silly. the guy clearly was rude and it escalated, but there was potential to calm things down.

[rose echo]

Different culture, I reckon

[winged knoll]

to be fair, we don't know the full context of what he said on stream

[indigo wadi]

I find it hard to believe a culture makes insulting others an everyday, okay thing to do

[winged knoll]

i doubt mods ban him just for "20 years game devs" stuffs

[flint yarrow]

I don't know about the cultures. Insults as friendly ribbing in a friend group is different than directed at strangers. Written it lacks even more nuance

[indigo wadi]

Might be more, might be in HOW he said it

[gloomy forge]

Not a big deal, if the guy would be me I'd just call a mod and either insult them again in the unban request or be nice and try again with a different tone.

[rose echo]

I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but have you been to Eastern Europe?

[opaque raven]

All I want is more friends
But sooo many people are tainted by opinions and external influences that sometimes it warps who they truly are

[flint yarrow]

It being normalized someplace doesn't make it right

[indigo wadi]

Look, just because they punch each other to show love does not mean that's how it works here

[gloomy forge]

Yeah, its Thors house and he laid out the rules, if in doubt read the rules. Its not hard.

[opaque raven]

This is why it's so important to read the room

[fluid dome]

Morning

[gloomy forge]

Heya

[rose echo]

I agree. And I'll repeat, I don't agree with what he did. All I was saying was that we should not jump newcomers without tolerance. That's all. And that's not something originating from me - it's what this place is supposed to be, as far as I'm aware.

Anyway, I gotta go, cuz my food iwll go cold

Take care yall

[fluid dome]

The only goated german :3 hi

[gloomy forge]

Yeah don't let your food get cold because of us, have a nice one.

[opaque raven]

There is an old saying
"When in Rome, do as Romans do"

[winged knoll]

i heard males kiss each other in Europe to express friendship

[wispy plover]

Eat your food. Discord isnt goin anywhere. Enjoy

[gloomy forge]

D: theres probably other germans on here much better.

[flint yarrow]

Things were easier at my polish friends wedding. Don't speak a word of polish. Got by on kurwa alone

[gloomy forge]

much more german than me

[fluid dome]

Yeah but you're the best one

[indigo wadi]

unfortunately, some read in braille

[gloomy forge]

Yeah, from 1 out of 1 german person, I am indeed the best one that is true

[indigo wadi]

Especially France

[flint yarrow]

Not 1 out of 1

I am here too

[gloomy forge]

See.

[flint yarrow]

And plenty others likely

[winged knoll]

ah the French

[gloomy forge]

Theres plenty of goated germans here.

[fluid dome]

Oh no they're multiplying

[indigo wadi]

I'm perfectly okay with tolerance of newcomers, so long as they aren't being insulting

[gloomy forge]

they're just hidden, lurking inside their bucketwheel escalators waiting to strike

[indigo wadi]

who fed them after midnight?

[flint yarrow]

I tend to avoid german speaking online spaces lol

[wispy plover]

Quick! Get the Flammenwerfer!

[fluid dome]

The damn belgians

[opaque raven]

Just avoid Limsa Lominsa after midnight and it's all good

[gloomy forge]

@flint yarrow hopefully I don't sound like a smartass but the way people think this way is very similar to "i only listen to subs and not dubs" because people from their country usually don't always like interacting with their own culture because they do that every day. So watching with subs means you interact with other cultures and it becomes new and welcoming again.

[indigo wadi]

FF14 I see

[fluid dome]

I've always interacted with Japanese media with subs and never the dubs bc I think the context for a lot of the jokes is better in Japanese

[gloomy forge]

Yeah and thats because you have more experience with your own culture and language

[opaque raven]

Ye, and on the European server for some reason after midnight a lot of French hang out on this city to rp and the place becomes very...moulin rouge

[indigo wadi]

Oh like Moonguard in WoW

[flint yarrow]

I dunno I haven't engaged with much german content online ever. Mostly just some league streamers. Most my content consumption I switched to english way back in school. And that's over 20 years ago nowadays. Helped a ton with the english grade. Never really switched back.

[wispy plover]

https://tenor.com/view/war-flashback-meme-gif-11373632052098267276

[opaque raven]

This is Limsa at the wrong hour of the day

[flint yarrow]

Limsa has right hours?

I haven't played in a year but I doubt limsa changed

[indigo wadi]

This is secretly just Thor when he plays FF14

[opaque raven]

This is Limsa during good hours. Lalafells playing music, declaring poetry on chat, all happy (I'm the one with white hair sitting on the floor enjoying all this)

[indigo wadi]

oh hey

punting targets

[light locust]

My little building turned out nice

[indigo wadi]

Very nice

[opaque raven]

Same place after midnight.
Weird chat, half of the people are barely dressed, giant naked guy sat on the Lalafell

[light locust]

ty

[blissful imp]

This video from 18 years ago was recommended to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT_ZLFsSZts

[light locust]

I no lifed Minecraft all weekend and made all of this over the weekend

[wet storm]

That bench is the strongest object in the universe