streamchat

[elder tangle]

Somehow, if that ever went viral, I don't think that'd stop anyone from continuing to hate on the guy

[narrow grove]

Its 4chan, kind of par for the course. Stupid meme and shit posts since it began. Is it right/correct? No, but nothing ever is on 4chan. Typical 4chan viewing should go like this: "Wow this terrible/obnoxious/funny/etc." (Move to next post/Close 4chan) .

The internet in general is just a cesspool of trolls and filth lets be honest lol

But its quite tame (outside of probably the whole Swatting trend) compared to the old days when it was the Wild West

[tight bramble]

Hey how about this:

Discuss....

[carmine birch]

Pacific Rim is the best american live action gundam wing

[indigo wadi]

Hrm...15 min past and no Thor.

[carmine birch]

https://tenor.com/view/aa-gif-22170771

[wheat zephyr]

Stream tonight?

[indigo wadi]

Unless Thor is sleeping/running late...

[split tulip]

But what about Atlantic rim

[carmine birch]

https://tenor.com/view/губка-боб-грустный-gif-11206807217039404801

[split tulip]

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2740710/?ref_=ext_shr

[winged knoll]

[carmine birch]

TIL, thank you for sharing this

It has sharknado vibes

[split tulip]

might even be the same company. They make a lot of stuff like this

[winged knoll]

There he is

[indigo wadi]

Time for stream #281 in a row

[indigo wadi]

My goal is to hit 365.

[cloud island]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-rivals-game-jeff-the-land-shark-gif-4217489714566070882

[indigo wadi]

Oooh he "might" go back to streaming on Wednesdays

[serene valley]

But at what cost

[red halo]

BitrateDrinkware

[gritty tartan]

consuming his daily dose of pixel for better quality

[tight bramble]

https://imgur.com/gallery/F3jPjRD

[blissful imp]

its the 2nd type of gen z https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhWx5uRaoIY

[dusky grove]

I'm the first, but with the nihilism of the 2nd... oh god

[blissful imp]

i'm the 1st type.

[patent bear]

whelp, just used a banned word on stream, starting with "e", without thinking about it being a possibly banned word... I got unbanned so all is well. In context I was calling out some random in chat who was getting all high and mighty about his years of experience as a dev.

[proud depot]

I could never imagine dropping $500 on a streamer

[indigo wadi]

Sometimes it's better not to engage

[patent bear]

All I had in mind to tell them was "<e word> doesn't work here mate".

[indigo wadi]

Not even sure what e word that is, lol

[terse pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/marikiplier-e-meme-lord-farquaad-gif-22138504

[ivory nimbus]

now I want to know what the e-word is

[worthy ivy]

egg

[patent bear]

Ego

[indigo wadi]

Ahh

[patent bear]

(I was treading caution in case of any ban bot here)

[terse pelican]

It's something every single human being has at some point or another

[indigo wadi]

Even still, trolls are gonna troll

[ivory nimbus]

ah I didn't know latin was banned here

carpe diem

[terse pelican]

It's not

[golden latch]

The mods waiting for the insult

[worthy ivy]

egg isn't banned, but discouraged

[ivory nimbus]

ego's just latin for "I", is it not?

[golden latch]

I mean we have #eggposting for a reason

[worthy ivy]

is why we have #eggposting

braincell

[terse pelican]

It is yes, But it's not the latin meaning that's banned

[golden latch]

It does that a lot, the splash damage is real

[indigo wadi]

Me thinks Thor needed this hypetrain

[patent bear]

Well played.

[patent bear]

There was one yesterday too.

[indigo wadi]

What lv?

[proud depot]

I've never seen a stream go without a hypetrain other than when thor disabled them

which is why golden kappa trains seem so common compared to other streamers

[ivory nimbus]

I can confirm

latin is not allowed

[patent bear]

Isn't there a hype train tracking room here?

[terse pelican]

I think it only tracks if it reaches, 25? and up

[proud depot]

si quaeris peninsulam amoenam circumspice

[golden latch]

Only notifies at 25-40-60 and then every level 60 up but no @

I however have the channel muted

[wicked schooner]

Having a lvl 20 hype train in these trying times is good to see

[terse pelican]

I have pretty much 'all'' discord servers muted

[golden latch]

English pls

[proud depot]

to use my spanish skills: no

[golden latch]

[winged knoll]

anyone know how to link my discord with twitch

[patent bear]

I call out people in my industry who I feel use their longevity in the industry as a license to not have to do certain things that are suggested for troubleshooting.

[golden latch]

There should be an option in settings called “connections”

[fluid dome]

Morning

[peak nymph]

Late to the party, but logging in with someone else's credentials isn't considered hacking from the game's standpoint. You could hack another user to obtain their credentials, but that wouldn’t qualify as hacking the cloud infrastructure.

[golden latch]

The base definition differs but if your personal opinion on the word thats fine.

[patent bear]

Depends. I've found that in Entra ID, M365 accounts can be flagged as risky due to "impossible travel", if they usually signin from 1 geo location, and have a signin from the other side of the country that wasn't prior whitelisted.

[rich ridge]

Its sad seeing all the YTers I love talk about Thor. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es3_lfOdAaE&t=326s

[golden latch]

Understand hacking into a service on a cloud is hacking but is less likely to give access to the cloud servers themselves however you still hacked software integrated onto the server

[golden mirage]

Then call them out on it and tell them to stop.

[outer cobalt]

just unsub lol, do you think its really productive if they can't think

[arctic needle]

Haven't seen any of those videos on YouTube myself

[terse pelican]

Jordan Shanks, Formerly FriendlyJordies, Makes/Made highly political content

[idle hill]

"It's over"
"He's done"
insert big red arrow
can they figure something else out

it's so overdone at this point

[terse pelican]

Because he can and want to?

[idle hill]

it's not meaningless if he enjoys it

[arctic needle]

For fun?

[terse pelican]

and who decides if it's meaningless, if not him?

[golden mirage]

Factually untrue, people have been playing it.

[idle hill]

He doesnt have to make everything for an audience, he's just gotta make what he wants to see out in the world

[rich ridge]

I didnt know that wow was a social sandbox mmo.

[idle hill]

I grew up on that shit are you kidding me

[terse pelican]

Didn't know you were the ultimate authority on what people should and shouldn't do

[patent bear]

To be real, I don't think we want to see things like this here anymore. I immediately hide any that popup in my YT feed.

[idle hill]

MCMMO minecraft servers are the GOAT

I remember CastiaMC and VestriaMC when they were first made public

[terse pelican]

Feels weird coming here complaining about it. But hey, Here you are.

Did you perchance get banned from Twitch chat cause you said something dumb?

[patent bear]

That's your opinion dude. You're in the minority.

[idle hill]

calling it 0 ambition is itself ambitious lol
Bro's just livin his life doing what he wants, which is making games he enjoys

[terse pelican]

or is it perchance a sockpuppet Discord account.

[patent bear]

The funny thing about this is that you're not compelled to.

Us, perhaps minus yourself at the going rate.

[terse pelican]

People that want to play A Modified version of Minecraft that adds Social Sandbox MMO features?

[golden mirage]

The target audience is whoever feels like playing. Specific demographics are irrelevant.

[patent bear]

Projects are not required for anyone to actually uptake it.

[terse pelican]

IIRC, The server was at max capacity fairly regularly before they took it down to rework it to the new Minecraft update

[patent bear]

Anyone who does, is just added bonus.

[umbral gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[terse pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/octopus-trollers-gonna-troll-troll-trolling-gif-22234933

[idle hill]

Developing a game for a specific audience is a first class ride to failure
just make the games you wanna make

[patent bear]

No project is without learning mah dude.

[wispy plover]

Maybe because... he wants to?

Why do you care?

[indigo wadi]

Stop sharing it. We don't want nor need to see it

[terse pelican]

[wispy plover]

Like it is possible for people to just... do what they want to do

[patent bear]

Dunning-Kruger mate.

[rich ridge]

Thor has stated that he finds deving for blockgame to be not only fun, but that it helps his skill set of being able to maintain and dev for an online experiance.

[indigo wadi]

What

[golden mirage]

He was never at blizzard for 20 years.

[patent bear]

And he's gone.

[wispy plover]

lel

[umbral gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/hammer-gif-23464742

[idle hill]

Heh
Hehe
dude doesnt know how complex minecraft can get

[arctic needle]

Thanks mods

[terse pelican]

Minecraft 'IS' Spagetticode x10000 Cause of how half the stuff is hardcoded into each other

[blissful imp]

Was that from my 2 mod tickets? <@&362005405901127710>

[patent bear]

The fact he said Thor's been at Blizz for 20 years, it was evident he wasn't being sincere.

[peak nymph]

Yeah thats a detection for potentially compromised user accounts. It could be bening if you use VPN.

[idle hill]

dont ping the mods

[indigo wadi]

10 / 10 times, they do not care and are not receptive to being called out. It's just a waste of energy.

[main ruin]

one was enough :)

[patent bear]

Oh I know, but I like to have a bit of fun.

[wispy plover]

Imagine getting so butt rustled by a 37 year old nerd game dev over an opinion that he lives rent free in your head every single day because he wont conform to whatever BS mentality you want him to have.

[patent bear]

Ego is the core of them not wanting to be told "have you turned it off and on again?".

[winged knoll]

🥖

bread for the bread mod

[peak nymph]

If you bruteforce your way into it then it would be a hack. You would then make an attack against the service.

[idle hill]

super weird to tell someone "hey you've got 20 years of game dev experience where's the next World of Warcraft"

[golden latch]

Hey youve been making games since dnd 2nd edition whens the next cod

[outer cobalt]

its like not telling folks you have a cs degree or people will start asking you to be their IT

[golden latch]

Oh sorry I specialized in windows

[winged knoll]

You study CS? Can you go to my house and fix my fridge for free thank you

[rich ridge]

20 yrs of experiance? not even in game dev? You HAVE to make the next BG3.

[patent bear]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuN4H6QJD7E

[terse pelican]

Honestly, Be a Janitor at a big game company, And people will assume you know how to make a game

[idle hill]

you're a genius

applying to blizzard rn brb

[patent bear]

Wasn't Finn a janitor in the 1st Order?

[terse pelican]

I have no idea, Could be?

[tough wind]

yes

[late vortex]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2929290/Stretchmancer/

Steam

Stretchmancer

SQUASH and   S  T  R  E  T  C  H   your environment, Stretchmancer!

It's like everything-is-made-of-rubber-day at the accordion factory!…

Release Date

Coming soon

▶ Play video

[rain widget]

Day 2 of my summer vacation 😄 Also day 4 of this "project".

I suspect I might be about a third done

[lunar moth]

Well, looks like a good project! Is it just firewood or you planning on doing something else with it? I'm guessing firewood but eh, I have been watching too much "Irish carpentry" to just assume stuff is firewood ^^'

[rain widget]

Just firewood prep for winter heating an old house with wood-burning furnace. Though these will likely not be used for at least 2 years so that they can dry out. Did a similar (possiblu slightly larger) pile last year as well 😄

This is this year's pile of blocks before I started chopping

The split pile in the first photo is today's progress. Now onto phase 2 for today: taking all that firewood inside under the roof 😄

[tough wind]

all this mushroom talk is making me hungry

[wispy plover]

Same. I am hella sold on the grilled cheese idea

[toxic rampart]

Uuuuuuhhh I'm not even in stream and now that makes me hungry.
I want stuffed shrooms.

[wispy plover]

omg stuffed shrooms are so good

[toxic rampart]

I know they're usually just portabellas but still so good

[tough wind]

grilled cheddar cheese + grilled mushroom + australian bread + red onions + ketchup

[wispy plover]

Not normally a ketchup person, but I can see that working well together.

[tough wind]

must be heinz ketchup tho

not the USA heinz ketchup version tho

[wispy plover]

Our ketchup is truly awful.

it's all corn syrup and sugar

[placid plover]

hi chat : D

whats up

[serene valley]

The sky

[tough wind]

just found out I'm shadowbanned on yt chat

[placid plover]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-101comedy-tommy-drummer-drumming-gif-17216930

[opaque raven]

Morning peeps

[opaque raven]

How do you know?

[tough wind]

bot is not answering me when I !blockgame

tried other commands none worked

[winged knoll]

try refreshing

sometimes when i replied to a banned message it goes like that

[tough wind]

didn't solve

I'm shadowbanned

[winged knoll]

https://x.com/oxcrowx/status/1944144022345593164
@jolly sky kek these people getting more and more unhinged (Not the Original Poster he's cool)

[winged knoll]

I don't watch Thor's stream long enough but i think there's an option to appeal ban, tho you would have to ask other chatters

[tribal canyon]

you can always raise a mod ticket here about it

#mod-ticket

[blissful imp]

that guy in the video looks like a crackhead. Wide Eyed and barely blinking.

[opaque raven]

Blinking is overrated

[tribal canyon]

Blinking is somthing Thor does

[winged knoll]

Therefore we should hate it

[patent bear]

Log a mod ticket.

[winged knoll]

no more blinking

I saw Thor drink water too

[tribal canyon]

i hear Thor Exists

[patent bear]

https://tenor.com/view/you-lie-lying-dishonest-mr-freeze-predator-film-franchise-gif-21211014

[golden mirage]

Thor existing is propaganda from the fracking five. He's really just an AI.

[tribal canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/you-cant-handle-the-truth-gif-23352960

[placid plover]

a very good ai

[placid plover]

people be like: Thor sucks!
"ok why?"
"BLEHHHH FRICK U"
average conversation with a PirateSoftware hater. (probably)

[patent bear]

Xitter. 'nuff said

[jolly sky]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-cruise-jack-nicholson-a-few-good-men-datamosh-fight-gif-24692660

[blissful imp]

not a joke looks like ai

well yes a joke

but

[jolly sky]

It's Datamoshing

https://tenor.com/view/sean-murray-datamosh-gif-26825503

https://tenor.com/view/jack-torrence-datamosh-gif-24692668

[placid plover]

https://tenor.com/view/eat-delicious-datamosh-hungry-food-coma-gif-16353843

[gentle mortar]

This video is great about it @blissful imp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uapad3pVxBY

[silver vapor]

Damn Dextero has to be trolling saying a VP of European Parliament supports SKG, no shot

[terse pelican]

It's within the VP's personal rights to support it or not

[silver vapor]

Dextero has been all over the place when it comes to articles and headlines, I always look at it as Clickbait title, but since it’s true that’s interesting

[terse pelican]

Yeah, While Dexerto does report on ''news'' it's always the same clickbaity BS, But in this case, we don't know unless they link to legit sources, or if they made it up based on some off-hand comment the VP said

[silver vapor]

Still skeptical unless other places report, just interested to see where it leads

[terse pelican]

Which is fair

[silver vapor]

[wet storm]

The VPs twitter account reposted it

idk what other evidence is necessary

[jolly sky]

Well, we'll see what happens. He doesn't have governing control over the EU Commission.

Anyway lets get away from this, Thunderdome was temporary for a reason

[silver vapor]

Don’t have Twitter, didn’t know

[wet storm]

Well now you do!

https://tenor.com/view/now-you-know-the-more-you-know-no-kidding-no-shit-obviously-gif-1342210079425559607

[tribal canyon]

at this point SKG is totally detached from the Thor hate train, if they pass good on them, if not dont blame anybody

[wet storm]

You know how you stop anything related to any hate train?

Stop talking about it

It's that shrimple 🦐 , pick more positive subjects

[lime canopy]

i hate trees

legit

and grass

and mowing

and moving

[tribal canyon]

touch the grass and it will vanish

[wet storm]

Zultra is a tree and didn't know it

[lime canopy]

DUDE I WISH

[wet storm]

So sad bros

[lime canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/tree-moment-tree-moment-arbol-gif-26948219

[wet storm]

hates moving
hates other plants
hates mowing
Actual tree

[tribal canyon]

you are pure salt so should be doable

[blissful imp]

What????

[split tulip]

did you open a ticket? that's the ticket bot

[hard jackal]

Yes, that's the Ticket Bot. You can even see that before you create the Ticket...

After the Ticket is closed, you get a Transcript. That is what goes out as DM.

[serene valley]

Are you using a VPN

If you're using a VPN twitch might not let your messages go through

I get it too when my VPN is on

[jolly sky]

Both sides get the logs so each side has proof

[wicked schooner]

Genuinely curious, does anyone else pronounce maggi as "mah jee" or its just how thor says it

[serene valley]

We pronounce it with a Dutch G

[wicked schooner]

G as in "game" or "gene"?

[jolly sky]

I pronounce Maggie with a hard G not a soft G

[serene valley]

Neither, Dutch G is none of that

[toxic rampart]

"Mah Jai" personally.
But that's due to Eva honestly lol

Wait, misread that.
lmfao

Idk.. "Mah Jee"?

MAG EE?

[wicked schooner]

I usually hear people around me pronounce maggi as "meh ghee"

[serene valley]

I cant explain the Dutch G because its not a sound used in english

[blissful imp]

i was joking i already knew

[wicked schooner]

But i dont know how other people outside pronounce it

[wicked schooner]

Yeah this is how i pronounce it

[toxic rampart]

Well this is annoying lmao

https://youtu.be/ORVgy1E402E?si=rmn0lwkA9Y5y5y_v

[wicked schooner]

Yeah i pronounce the g in maggi as the gh sound, not the j sound

didnt know theres some pronounce it as the j sound

[toxic rampart]

Like... If I consider the time period of those early commercials... "Mah Jee" makes sense, like Magi(c) noodles.
But then the same company says it the other way in another commercial right after so idfk.

https://tenor.com/view/carl-athf-aqua-teen-hunger-force-adult-swim-dont-matter-gif-18398614

[opaque raven]

"YouTube, could you please stop recommending me bad drama videos with insane titles about this topic?"

Sure...but have you seen this one?!?!?

[gentle mortar]

"You're liar!!" – said the liar.

[opal bronze]

1 video away from completely changing your whole view man trust

[gentle mortar]

Asked what he lied about, still waiting

[late bane]

I got atleast 9 videos in my recommended about Thor, all drama vids and all blocked

[red halo]

Kinda insufferable to read yt chat earlier, the claim that he's said "I'm a beast of a programmer" is probably from him showcasing his work History and him just saying facts on how Heartbound can function in a smart fridge. Hacking is also a completely different skill set so idk what these people are on about

My engrish was engrishing there holy

[toxic rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/elster-lstr-signalis-unit-my-gif-16832852754988176079

[marsh dove]

[opaque raven]

I mean, I love drama with a passion but this one is just dull and childish

[late bane]

Totally agree

[jolly sky]

Good thing after scrubbing my YT Subscriptions, and using "Don't recommend this channel" a lot recently, I should be free of meaningless drama nonsense from here on out

Regarding any drama for anyone

[red halo]

You're never free

[opaque raven]

Is it too much to ask for thumbnails like this??

[patent bear]

needsmoar comic sans

[red halo]

There's always that one sneaky part of the algorithm that always tries to recommend a new one

[opaque raven]

Almost all of them are using the same innocent looking image of Thor, no background, no fire or devil horns, just his face. Low effort low quality drama

Pffff

[red halo]

Is thor a long lemon or a yello Ferret? Honestly it's been a question in my head for a while

[patent bear]

When I see videos about Thor, if it's a youtuber who I already follow, I hide the video. If it's a channel I've never heard of, I hide the channel.

[red halo]

Ngl after scrubbing my feed as clean as I can from all the drama videos, like any drama even ones not including thor I realized just how much I consumed because I'm so desperate for more content that I've just dived into a weird rabbit hole

It's just been Thor streams and Adventure time Deep dives

[patent bear]

There was a time that I had been hiding so many ads from farcebook, that on days FB Purity wasn't working for me, Zucc gave me actual bottom of the barrel ads. I've been taking screenshot evidence of it.

It proved to me that Zucc doesn't care, as long as he gets any type of person to pay for sponsored posts.

[red halo]

God I hate how obvious the data collection is from meta is, I could talk about something with a friend there for the first time and somehow my yt recommend has the exact video on the topic

[patent bear]

yep...

[red halo]

But this also opens up a new theory for me

I could in theory just send anyone a message and I could make them dive deep into anything I want them to if I just talk about it enough

[wet storm]

Outrage is addictive

Like literally it releases dopamine

It also stresses you out so it doesn't feel that good

[wicked schooner]

There's a video for that actually. let me find it

[jolly sky]

Oh is it the CGP Grey one

[wicked schooner]

This
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9euKCrTyMEc

[red halo]

Funnily enough I started stopping on the drama vids like 3 weeks before all the new Thor drama, so I was quite surprised to see it so much again

[tribal canyon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE3j_RHkqJc

[red halo]

Ok imma put this in as my background noise for tomorrow

[wet storm]

Found it

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6773005/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

It's in rats but only because I think studying if anger is addictive in humans would be quite unethical

[wet storm]

It's messed up because inherently we don't want to watch drama

But we're only flesh automata animated by neurotransmitters

We owe it to ourselves to give ourselves nice things

I got a relative that is essentially addicted to political content where this dude spends like 6 to 8 hours a day streaming news of his opposition and explaining how dumb it is. It's quite sad really

Obviously YouTube doesn't care so it carries on.

[red halo]

Yeah I was gonna say it's probably why political content is so huge

[wet storm]

I got the same view yeah. It's virtual meth

Ok maybe not as extreme

Virtual nicotine

[red halo]

I was gonna say it's closer to sugar, but yeah nicotine is perfect for that comparison

[jolly sky]

It's a literal rage and drama virus

[red halo]

I swear I'm not related to that person

[wet storm]

This is what I mean with stop talking about it

It's like smoking a cigarette next to someone who's trying to stop

[red halo]

So we must quarantine

[wet storm]

Yes

And talk about positive shit like

Idk

Help me out here

[red halo]

Horse girls

[wet storm]

Excuse me

[red halo]

https://tenor.com/view/gold-ship-uma-musume-dropkick-gif-1310520311152972568

[wet storm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

[wet storm]

Immaculate drop kick

Look at this lil shit I'm dogsitting

She weights like 3 pounds

[red halo]

I'm so close to playing that game my yt recommendations won't stop it

[jolly sky]

3 pounds of RAGE

[red halo]

Concentrated Menace

[wet storm]

She's surprisingly chill

It's the lack of eyebrows that throws people off

[jolly sky]

Old AF photo of my Pyro Figure making toast

[wet storm]

-# muffled laughter

[hasty grail]

thanks mods

[wet storm]

I did not need to see that

Thank you mods

[hasty grail]

was going to put in a mod ticket

[jolly sky]

Was it banned or did the person delete it

I have a screenshot if needed

[wet storm]

https://tenor.com/view/done-baking-daniel-hernandez-a-knead-to-bake-rolls-are-ready-taking-the-bread-out-of-the-oven-gif-27427648

Here you go mods

[jolly sky]

I'll make one just incase

[wet storm]

That content is rated E for Eat

[red halo]

If we give the mods white bread in europe, legally we would be giving them cake right?

[hasty grail]

no one needs to remember

[blissful imp]

the person that got banned. it says "Following since November 14th, 2023"

For Thor it apperently doesn't say this????

[rigid nimbus]

Has Thor thought about taking some accountability and posting an apology video? I think it would help blow over some of the hate and public discontent

[trim crater]

He apologized for being rude.
Otherwise he has nothing to apologize for or take accountability.

[tribal canyon]

and even then, a "apology" wont stop anything

[trim crater]

100%. knowing internet it would just cause another wave of bs.

[tribal canyon]

give them an inch they will demand a mile

[wintry pond]

"hes apologising thus hes wrong and all the hate was justified"

I can see it already

[tribal canyon]

while also claiming you never gave an inch

[late bane]

I wouldn't matter even if he did

[trim crater]

At this point people who doesn't leave him be and seek out confrontation and negativity, be it trough stream chats or making drama vids, has a mental issue that they need to fix.
Simple as

[wanton stump]

Accountability for what exactly? Having opinions? Being rude?

I dont even know what he could apologize for tbh

That he hasnt already

Unless people want him to apologize for having an opinion on SKG

[prime crest]

Those people are just looking for a scapegoat or someone to hate for fun. Apology is unneccesary for any reasonable person because he has done nothing wrong. Apology would just be used as another drama reason. They are not looking for him to be accountable, they want him to take blame for every single mistake in the universe so they have more bs to talk about. It's all garbage.

[brisk sparrow]

I think at this point most of the people who would accept an apology have moved on for other reasons.

[wanton stump]

Like seriously what would an apology video from thor even look like? What would he be apologizing for?

[prime crest]

"I'm sorry for having my opinions and my brain"

[wanton stump]

More than half of the stuff people accuse him of are just lies so I genuinely dont even know how he could apologize

[wintry pond]

sorry for having an opinion and you being babies on the internet

[wanton stump]

"Im sorry you think that I guess"

[late bane]

Eventually people will realise they can't have their fill of drama anymore and move on.

[fluid dome]

I'm sorry you just lost the game.

[jolly sky]

Maybe they want him to apologise for the Universe being created as well;

[wanton stump]

Like hes already admited he was too harsh on the first video on SKG and he shouldnt have been so agressive and rude with it. Everything else he did was just sharing his perspective.

[wintry pond]

and his perspective is that of the side that cant freely speak out about this

[terse pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-dead-merry-go-round-i'm-dead-dead-girl-gif-9805534590949570373

[prime crest]

Not even that, he just said that in random streams when asked about the initiative. People looked throughs VODS and took everything out of context to make it seem like he actually tried to do some harm.

[jolly sky]

Yea, sadly for multiple reasons. There are a few that have given perspectives similar to Thor's, but not many because they wouldn't want to dive into the shit that has been thrown at Thor, and also a lot of them are in a job where talking about that would get them fired

[wanton stump]

I keep thinking back to the conversation with Dr K and how what these people want isnt anything they actually say they want, they want to be able to emotionally lash out at the situation and Thor's mannerisms simply dont let them

[wet storm]

They're lashing out cos y'all give them this much attention

Dude asked the question like 20 minutes ago and you're still at it

[jolly sky]

The ones that lash out that come here get banned

[wet storm]

Instead look at this lil shit

[hasty grail]

it comes and goes, ive seen this chat go weird in between streams

[real cradle]

None of the guys left want him to apologize, they want to keep hating him because they want a punching bag. Which created a large crowd of youtubers that want to profit, so they keep finding things to nitpick and scrutinize. I've seen everything from "His name's Jason and he thinks calling himself Thor is cool" to "His code is garbage" to "All he talks about is how he used to work at Blizzard."

It's an ouroboros of hate that's just sitting there eating its own tail, eventually it's gonna collapse and life will go back to normal.

[hasty grail]

not counting various people who actively jump in to get banned somehow

[wet storm]

It's too much. Feeding trolls is how you get more of them

[hasty grail]

damned if you do, damned if you dont

[prime crest]

Dr. K is great. Said things well. People could not even understand what he said and claimed the video was the direct opposite of what was actually said.

[wanton stump]

They want to resolve their feelings about it but Thor is too attached to logical thinking and that makes it look like he is disrespecting them or being an ass about it

[hasty grail]

if you feed the trolls and get them banned, they will FOR THE MOST PART stay gone

otherwise they will infest and spread

[wet storm]

Just damned if you do. I don't give attention to every raving lunatic I see on the street

[wanton stump]

Of course he is, hes a licensed psychiatrist who knows his stuff

[hasty grail]

as far as the vids, block the creator or hid the vid and move on

the people who actively come in? who knows

anyways

https://tenor.com/view/epic-npc-man-hu-ha-nice-day-for-fishing-morning-mornin-gif-17883323

[obtuse gazelle]

Far as I'm concerned, those who hop on the hate-wagon are all just as dumb as the ppl who are starting shit for profit and just as pathetic. Leave em be and rub their faces in it when they find out they were wrong

[wanton stump]

I got a really good haul of magnetite today

Fairly pure too

[wintry pond]

tft new set got announced and it looks good

[wanton stump]

Gonna see if I can make thermite with it

[real cradle]

the most clipped part of that video is 5 seconds of doctor K saying "That's the most arrogant thing you could have said" taken wholly out of context.

[high ember]

i love when youtube's jank shows
i was watching a video essay on a horror game (before going off it bc i wanted to play it for myself) and the video sections carried over

[wanton stump]

And Dr K was right, the context was just not Dr K calling him out or whatever but explaining how the way Thor speaks portrays arrogance when that isnt his intention

[real cradle]

but all the crowd hears is "He's denying being arrogant and that's so arrogant". Which is circular logic and just stupid.

[wanton stump]

And thats true, he does, most people who opperate more logically than emotionally usually do, its something you just struggle with if you are more logicaly inteligent than emotionally inteligent

[wintry pond]

tldr people forgot how to understand what people really mean

[wanton stump]

Very ND coded

[jolly sky]

My brain breaks when I see people entirely reverse what Dr.K said in their mind

[brisk sparrow]

Also making fun of thors code when they don’t understand it has spread to the programmerhumor subreddit. Ugh.

[wanton stump]

All my life Ive had people say Im arrogant and rude when I was just trying to be clear and direct

[red halo]

mindbr-

[wanton stump]

I think you should be allowed to make fun of people's code cause everyone's code is shit

[wet storm]

Thor could've solved the entire code analysis trolling by just saying "yeah so what the coding for my game is done anyway lmao all I gotta do is write" and then never again talking about it

[real cradle]

literally came from a guy making a 2 minute supercut of every time thor's mentioned working at blizzard after saying he never talks about it. Take it out of context, it seems like a lot.

Thor's streamed 250 hours in the past month, compared to that the supercut accounts for less than .001% of what he's ever said.

[wanton stump]

No matter who you are, your code will look like ass no matter how hard you try

[wet storm]

Louder for the kids in the back
The more you give attention to trolling the more the algorithm identifies it as engagement

[real cradle]

Fair point, how's the ferrets doing?

[wanton stump]

Sorry for enjoying discussions... 😔

[wet storm]

Y'all need to learn how the internet works

[wanton stump]

Its my biggest flaw

[wanton stump]

I just dont like letting misinfo remain uncontested so I like to be informed on how to counter it

Cause if nobody says anything, it just becomes accepted as fact

[wet storm]

You can certainly do that, just remember that your opinion doesn't matter.

And I don't mean this in a mean and bashful way, I mean it like Filthy Frank did

[wanton stump]

And I viscerally hate that

[wanton stump]

Oh I know

[wet storm]

It's floating text on the internet

All arguments online through text are self serving

[wanton stump]

I still want to be able to plant the seed of disagreement

[real cradle]

nah we get it just...it's hard to remember in the context of everything day to day that literally everything you say and do online gets analyzed by an algorithm and gives feedback that perpetuates stuff like this, regardless of personal feelings or intentions.

[wanton stump]

If I correct something, it might lead to them changing their mind in a few months

I know I cant convince them of anything in the moment but I can at least plant that seed

[wet storm]

I understand and respect that. Especially identifying it

[earnest spire]

it probably just better to just give a link to disagree the opinion and be done

[wanton stump]

Possibly the most important thing to understand about human interaction if you are Neurodivergent is the way cognitive dissonance works

[wet storm]

My take is do nothing

[wanton stump]

When I learned how it worked it was like enabling cheat codes

[wet storm]

At most call them stoobid

[wanton stump]

What I do is I ask them to explain themselves

People love talking about themselves

And then I make very obvious basic questions about what they said

[wet storm]

That's a good one

"Explain"

Then never interact again

[earnest spire]

my take is respond one time and refer to it everytime someone brings it up

[wanton stump]

Doing that forces them to analyse their beliefs because otherwise they cant explain it

And if I can do that Ive won

[wind hare]

New PirateSoftware Lore just dropped. Thor is a Digimon confirmed

[earnest spire]

lacks interaction for dramafarmers

[real cradle]

Thormon?

[wanton stump]

Like everytime someone says "Thor is such a fraud and a liar" I say "Why do you say that?"

[wet storm]

Hot, maybe mean take, but this isn't about you

[wanton stump]

Sure, but I dont care

Im doing it for myself, not for anyone else

I do it because I feel bad if I dont

Thats all it is

Like Im not protecting thor or whatever, I just dont like to see misinfo online, of any kind

[real cradle]

relatable

[jolly sky]

"Because Coding Jesus said so"

[real cradle]

oh god, Coding Jesus, dude is gonna be so sad when the hate train dries up and he goes back to mediocre viewcounts

[wanton stump]

I genuinely, sincerily, dont care about Thor. I dont know thor, he doesnt know me, hes just a collection of pixels on a screen for me. I have no illusions that I can help him or do anything for him and I dont want to. I just wanna do what I feel is correct whenever I see people saying stuff without thinking. Thats literally it

[jolly sky]

Well he already deleted his Twitter account 3-4 days ago lmao

[wanton stump]

Maybe my perspective is too cold or unempathetic but thats just how I feel, I dont know how I could feel differently so this is what I do

[jolly sky]

He was getting a little clowned on by other developers saying "Yea everything you said made no sense, this isn't C++ its GML

[wet storm]

Well at least you're honest about it

I respect that

[wanton stump]

Cant change how I feel about it at the end of the day. It just is what it is. All I can do is act as best I can based on what I have

[real cradle]

calls guy out for not knowing how to code
other coders: you're literally not even using the same language

[wanton stump]

That is very funny tho

[wet storm]

Yeah no that was really dumb

Lmao

[wanton stump]

C programmers whenever any other language shows up: "Is this another kind of C?"

Its me. Im C programmers

[carmine sierra]

"Thor's code is bad because CJ said so"
"CJ's criticisms don't apply to the language Thor is using"
"Well I use that language to and yes it does"
"What language would that be exactly?"
"uhhhhhhhhhhhh"

[real cradle]

and that right there sums up the irony of the drama train: it's a lot of people misinforming each other about a topic, which is ironic because the core of the topic is partly about misinformation.

[midnight shale]

the irony is that CJ gets "debunked" within his own video comments, but people are jsut so stupid and care more about blood than facts

[wanton stump]

One thing that genuinely pisses me off about this whole thing is the cheating stuff

[real cradle]

hate is an emotional response, not a rational one

[wanton stump]

That part just makes me mad

[wicked schooner]

Can we all agree that thor is a java dev?

[mellow silo]

He's a java dev? Oh god.

[wanton stump]

I wouldnt call my worst enemy that

[wicked schooner]

[carmine sierra]

The one that annoys me the most is the Rivals of Aether controversy
Because even when I've shown the SteamDB chart showing a hundred reviews on the same day, Ludwig's post that day about the review bomb, and that both of them have said a lot of the reviews have since been changed
The people I've talked to are still "skeptical"

[real cradle]

dude...i wouldn't say that about my worst enemy, c'mon

[wanton stump]

The light of god does not shine on Java devs

[carmine sierra]

Does it count if they're a Java dev not by their own choice?

(Hello it's me, I have to use Java for my work)

[midnight shale]

if you do eneterprise java you have made a pact with the devil, there's no redemption left for you

[wanton stump]

You are still an abomination of the earth unfortunately

[carmine sierra]

[wicked schooner]

Im so sorry for you

[real cradle]

your workplace has forced you to sell your soul I am sorry.

[wanton stump]

Cursed to forever be tormented by verbose and obtuse code formating

[jolly sky]

Just to clarify, not changed. Deleted by Steam Moderation. You can check it on Wayback Machine. June 26th-27th.

[mellow silo]

Real story, a piano fell on my head while coding in Java.

[carmine sierra]

Right, that
Even then there are still a hundred leftover reviews on the same day

[wanton stump]

I oppened Oracle once and when I did, a lightning strike destroyed the entire powergrid of my district

[jolly sky]

What's even worse is that the misinformation spread that there wasn't any hate reviews, has only made more hate reviews

It is Obscenely dumb

[carmine sierra]

There's going to be retrospectives about this entire situation years down the line, and it's going to show some absolutely wild claims going on

[mellow silo]

I heard about that on the news... we gotta destroy Java.

[real cradle]

the gods have spoken: Java must die.

[wanton stump]

I love when people forget Thor was playing puzzle games with chat. They just never consider how that might account for him being able to reach solutions to puzzles that took groups to solve elsewhere

Damn it almost like having chat is like having a group of people trying and giving ideas

Wow

[real cradle]

it's free crowdsourcing for problem solving

[wanton stump]

But yeah he was definetly cheating, he definetly didnt just have 1000s of people throwing ideas at him or just a lot of experience with puzzles and common puzzle standards from, oh you know, being a huge puzzle nerd his whole life

[toxic rampart]

Is it actually awesome or just more slop from anger germs?

And that answers that lol

[wicked schooner]

Thank you mods

[jolly sky]

So did the description of the video (I loaded it into something not connected to the algorithm)

[toxic rampart]

Yeeeah, I'm not in my distro right now and clicking that would throw open firefox so I wasn't about to do that lmao

[jolly sky]

I use Freetube for doing it

Super handy

[toxic rampart]

Yeah

[wicked schooner]

whats freetube?

[jolly sky]

Or on mobile, Newpipe

[toxic rampart]

Same in my linux distro.
But I'm dualed into Windows right now for work garbage lol

I believe there is a Windows version as well but can't bother.

[jolly sky]

An alternative Youtube watching program

[toxic rampart]

Pretty much an entirely customizable Youtube client.
Really dope if you want to actually curate what you see and want, even as far as comments.

[wicked schooner]

I usually watch youtube videos i dont want in my feed on an incognito tab

Does that work?

[winged knoll]

A strimmer using chat to solve puzzle? Cheat i’d say

[jolly sky]

I think so? But I'm not entirely sure however

[wicked schooner]

So far from what im seeing it works

[jolly sky]

Freetube also allows you add your Subscriber feed into it which is nice

[wicked schooner]

Ive tried to use grayjay but it didnt stick with me

Maybe im too attached with youtube's UI and features

[toxic rampart]

Understandable.

My spite for big tech fuels my willingness to learn or adjust to most alternatives

[opaque raven]

So much energy and time put into proving that StReamEr is bAd at everything

[real cradle]

spite is an incredibly potent but short term motivator

[jolly sky]

Those kids are going to panic when they realise they spent their whole day spreading shit and not doing their homework due tomorrow

[opaque raven]

"One day you will find someone who thinks about you as much as those people think about Thor"

[wicked schooner]

Theyre gonna complain "Thor ate my homework"

[thick ledge]

This is a cat alert

[jolly sky]

Hallo Zaf

How be

[thick ledge]

Post your cats

[jolly sky]

Oh YES

[thick ledge]

[stone nacelle]

i'm just watching ferrets, i need to relax

[jolly sky]

I have no new ones, he's out currently but

[real cradle]

okay but if their teacher is also part of the hate crowd that excuse could work

[thick ledge]

[carmine sierra]

This is Watson, he likes sleeping on his back

[thick ledge]

Good cats, we like cats

[jolly sky]

Good lord that is hella fluff

[carmine sierra]

And this is Sherlock, he's an old man

[wicked schooner]

Kitty

[jolly sky]

Yea he's got that Old Man look on his face

[carmine sierra]

I got Sherlock from my sister back in 2018, found Watson in the middle of the road as a kitten in 2021

Watson is also dumb as bricks

[toxic rampart]

Goblin flood

Hoji (Grey) and Yuki (White)

[mellow silo]

Absolute monster

[wary saffron]

oh my god

Cats

what a wonderful place

[vocal tree]

Leevi and Pauli

[indigo wadi]

Cat

[jolly sky]

What IS it with cats and plastic bags lmao

[toxic rampart]

Stimulation afaiu.
Interesting feeling and sound.

[carmine sierra]

Crinkly

[terse pelican]

We had to cut off the handle on plastic bags cause I was worried the cats would get stuck and hurt themselves on em

[toxic rampart]

Suddenly remembering Hoji getting her head caught in one when not looking and then turning into a crinkle missle trying to run away from it

[wet storm]

The bag goes fosofosofosof and the eyes go BWOMP

👁️ 👄 👁️

[wet storm]

Crinkle missile hahahahah

[flat root]

What the heck do those people think happened?

Do they genuinely think a positive review bomb happened, Ludwig then lies and calls it a negative one, and then they remove Thor who is apparently then responsible for a positive wave of attention?

Skepticism only makes sense if you at least have some other plausible and alternative explanation of events. Being 'skepitcal' against all evidence is simply being in denial.

[indigo wadi]

My cat has a thing for adhesive tape

[carmine sierra]

Good question!

[terse pelican]

Ours lick just about anything sorta plasticy, Like We've got knock-off Crocs as indoor shoes, He HAS to lick those for some reason

[carmine sierra]

The alternative narrative seems to be "Ludwig made the post over nothing to bring attention to the game, and he and Thor made up the story so Thor could garner sympathy by stepping down from a minimum-wage position he was doing for fun"

[jolly sky]

Actual delusion lmao

[terse pelican]

People on the internet acting like spoiled 5 year old that missed the last 10 weeks of Naptime.

[flat root]

That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. xD Gods, why are these people you had to talk to like this.

[carmine sierra]

I've ditched every server I was in where these stupid arguments came up

It's not worth dealing with

[toxic rampart]

That's kitty pica!
Pretty common but the preferred things to lick can differ.
Hoji licks bottles and cans but Yuki licks blankets and tape lol

[wicked schooner]

Just like thor said "they are angry because they are mad, and they are mad because they are angry"

[flat root]

As well, you can even go check the Steam Reviews back on that day: People were all commenting about the massive negative review bomb when it happened with their own positive reviews countering the negative reviews, and those comments are all still there.

Are all of those people also in on this absurd conspiracy?

[carmine sierra]

Apparently so

[flat root]

What was absurd was one person going around (on July 3rd) to all the people commenting on the review bomb (back on Jun 26th) saying "You got tricked by Thor into believing a lie"

Like... what? Some people even then responded pointing out the simple and obvious "I WAS THERE" and that still wasn't good enough for them.

[terse pelican]

Truth doesn't fit the narrative they're trying to spin.

[jolly sky]

How the hell did peoples brains get this way

Like, when did it start, how, and why

Just makes no sense

[winged knoll]

I blame facebook

[toxic rampart]

Social media. Yeah

[flat root]

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198390250186/recommended/2217000/

Like, look at this.

Alki posts about the Review Bombing on Jun 26th, they are literally there witnessing it, the only reason they could possibly be there to review it is because they see the review bomb. If there was no review bomb, they would have seen it and not made the comment...

... and this 'CasaRomeo' then claims to this person's face "There was no review bombing, you got tricked into reviewing"... How?!

[jolly sky]

And sadly the misinformation saying the hate review's didn't happen, has also lead to more hate reviews

It's wild

[toxic rampart]

Mind viruses + anonymity + anger culture mixed with the speed of a tweet has cooked a lot of people.

[terse pelican]

Hate begets Hate.

[flat root]

https://steamcommunity.com/id/v123456789011/recommended/2217000/

You can even find some of the reviews who straight up admit to giving a negative review only because of Thor, and then only switching it after on July 3rd to a positive review on news of Thor resigning.

[toxic rampart]

The last decade of social media and it's impact is going to be studied in the future.

Bet

[carmine sierra]

Why were there a hundred reviews on the same day for a ten year old game?
The world may never know

The negative reviews were mostly either deleted or edited since then

Thor and Ludwig have both said this

[flat root]

It's literally right there on the right. See that massive spike?
After the review bomb and Thor leaving the company, many of those leaving the review bomb switched their reviews to positive, thus switching. You can even check the reviews from that day: Many people mention the review bombing that happened, and some even admitted to it

[carmine sierra]

Steam moderation cleaned a lot of it up

And most of those got cleaned up by Steam

They do for review bombs

[flat root]

Unless you're admitting to being a review bomber and thus being of the same mindset as them: Proof?

[carmine sierra]

Unless you have another reason why Ludwig made a post about a review bomb that day and there were suddenly 100+ reviews on a ten year old game

[winged knoll]

unrelated note, did Thor stream alot during his time at the publishing studio with Ludwig

[carmine sierra]

And multiple other people claiming there was a review bomb

Do you have an explanation for any of that?

[toxic rampart]

I have. Unfortunately I have been caught in a couple of things like Hell Divers etc, let my displeasure be known with criticism to inform others and then reverted back once corrected.

[flat root]

What is your explanation then for the spike then? As well as the many people who witnessed it on the day it happened? Are all of us lying? Because you can review this server here: Multiple people talked about it

[winged knoll]

Also buying game to review bomb due to drama should not be allowed to refund

[terse pelican]

I've only written two, maybe three reviews in my life

[winged knoll]

[flat root]

Are you saying everyone here coordinated independently a conspiracy to fake a review bomb?

[carmine sierra]

And this time they did

[flat root]

Proof?

[carmine sierra]

Again

I'll ask this

What's your alternative?

[flat root]

You're asserting it never happened. We've shown evidence it did happen. Multiple review bombers even admitted to it.

[carmine sierra]

We've given the side of the story we saw

What's your alternative to what happened?

[flat root]

Are you asserting the people who admitted to switching their reviews are themselves liars?

[carmine sierra]

Or is it just "I don't believe it because Thor is involved and he's bad"?

[flat root]

And?

[carmine sierra]

Okay

That's not the current situation

What
Is
Your
Alternative

[flat root]

Where is your proof that 80% of the bad reviewers for Rivals of Aether II didn't switch?

You made the claim, back it up

[terse pelican]

Helldivers wassn't reviewbombed cause a PERSON was involved, It was Reviewbombed cause of literal dogshit practices by Sony.

[toxic rampart]

I write like 90% positive things or at most a hard stay away due to various things like poor performance and breaking down numbers.

But the couple of times I have had to go negative, it's been due to some serious chicanery.
I don't believe in bombing as a general rule unless it's like, okay what in the hell did you do to this game?

[jolly sky]

Oh that reminds me I need to actually take my HD2 negative review off

Although

[carmine sierra]

And this time they did

Answer the question

[jolly sky]

It still performs like SHIT and has gotten worse as it has continued

[carmine sierra]

What's your alternative?

[flat root]

Cool. Prove your claim

[terse pelican]

Rivals of Aether, Both of them were Reviewbombed by people with anagenda against Thor. And once he was no longer involved, They reverted their review cause the negativity had served it's intent

[carmine sierra]

And a lot of the rest were cleaned up by Steam moderation for being unrelated to the game

[jolly sky]

Don't forget that Steam Moderation also removed some of them

[flat root]

We've already supplied the evidence that it was review bombed. You can even check this server on that day, multiple people have commented on the review bomb. You can check the steam reviews, multiple people talked about the review bomb.

[carmine sierra]

But I guess none of this ever happened and Ludwig just lied to get attention on the game and Thor lied to garner sympathy

[terse pelican]

My only super harsh review was on a game called Shatterline, Cheater infested cesspool and the Devs ACTIVELY Encouraged the ''Pro cheaters' and defending them

[terse pelican]

And that

[toxic rampart]

It REALLY has.
I saw that the pope could dive again, installed it on Linux, ran kinda meh, tried my windows install, ran worse lmfao.

[flat root]

So are you claiming everyone independently decided to lie and form a conspiracy without any communication between them, in open forums, where anyone could contradict them?

[carmine sierra]

And this time they weren't

Are you ever going to answer the question?

[flat root]

Cool.
I don't care.
Prove your claim for Rivals of Aether II

[terse pelican]

You're equating a Reivewbomb because bad company to reviewbomb due to a personal beef. Not the same

[winged knoll]

Could be that Sony doesn't care, while Thor + Ludwig could have involved Steam moderators team to help

[flat root]

You claim it didn't happen for this game. If you refuse to provide evidence, you're admitting to acting in bad faith

[winged knoll]

it's not that deep tbh

[carmine sierra]

We did provide data

We provided evidence

[jolly sky]

If you're "reviewing" a game based off of circumstances not directly tied to the game, it deserves to be deleted

[carmine sierra]

We've shown other reviews

You can go look up Thor and Ludwig's posts about this

What's your alternative?

[terse pelican]

Look at the Steam Page with the Waybackmachine, and see the negative reviews.

[carmine sierra]

Answer the question

[flat root]

You provided no data whatsoever about Rivals of Aether II.
You can provide all you want about an irrelevant topic. You can give me a whole grand theory of everything for an entirely unrelated topic, doesn't change a thing

[carmine sierra]

What do you think actually happened?

[winged knoll]

You can do has:image after:time in discord search, and cross check

should be sufficient

[carmine sierra]

Yes, and those graphs and data show what it is now
Not what it was on the day of

[flat root]

You have none on Rivals of Aether II. The only one is the review charts which proves our point

[winged knoll]

if data is what you are after

[carmine sierra]

We've explained what it was on the day of, and given supporting evidence

[toxic rampart]

And we already know that steam has taken action by even having a system to alert of odd activity because of bombings.

[carmine sierra]

So what's your alternative?

Okay, that's Helldivers 2

We're not talking about that

[toxic rampart]

So them getting involved to moderate or review a situation isn't far fetched.

[jolly sky]

Just check Wayback Machine, june 26th. When the game is getting roughly 5-10 reviews a day (both positive and negative), and you suddenly get 9 negative reviews completely unrelated to the game, that's a hate bomb (For Rivals of Aether 2)

[carmine sierra]

Are you ever going to answer the question?

[winged knoll]

Also do be reminded that Helldivers' devs encourage people to do review bombs

so that Sony can revert their decisions

[carmine sierra]

@tough wind Since you don't seem to see my messages, I'll ping
We've explained our side of the story and given supporting evidence
What's your alternative?
What do you think happened that day to cause all of this?

[winged knoll]

so they have incentives to not remove the review bombs

[toxic rampart]

I almost forgot about that.
They were actually kinda rockstars about it.

[carmine sierra]

Unfortunately the community manager who did that got fired
Sony wasn't happy about it

[toxic rampart]

Yeah

[jolly sky]

Proven even moreso that they don't want to work with Sony on their next game

[flat root]

lol, JRMensa has literally no idea how to even do research. Like, imagine this:

Doctors: "I'm afraid you have an illness"
JrMensa: "No, I don't, 80% of people aren't sick, none of the people in this office are sick"
Doctors: "Huh? You're the patient here, we're trying to treat you"
JrMensa: "Yeah but I can't be sick because these other people aren't"

[carmine sierra]

Not all, there's still about 10+

[toxic rampart]

Good tbh.

[jolly sky]

#streamchat message

[carmine sierra]

And yeah, anything could have happened
We've given our side of the story and explained what happened and given supporting evidence

Do you have an alternate narrative?

Or are you just digging in your heels because Thor bad?

[jolly sky]

Check the reviews for that day, June 26th. On June 27th, 9 negative reviews disappeared and there was no change to the positive review

[muted robin]

He's also been streaming on twitch for literal years, was streaming for years before he ever got popular

[flat root]

You provided only evidence about HellDivers 2.
We weren't talking about HellDivers 2.
Yet you kept presenting as evidence reviews for a completely unrelated game.

It's a perfect illistration of your argument tactic.

[carmine sierra]

Yeah I'm just putting in a mod ticket, this guy is a moron and is digging in out of pure spite and stubbornness

[flat root]

LOL, and the troll unmasks

[winged knoll]

@tough wind if you count review bombs need to be on the scope of Helldivers 2, then that didn't happen
But if it's bad reviews unrelated to the game / product itself, it did happen.

And i believe both parties have already reach an impasse so let's move on to a different topics before someone got the hammer

[golden latch]

You know you can change a review right especially if the thing you gave a negative review for changes like offbrand games giving a statement about being for skg ideas and the stepping down of certain people from their positions in the business?

[jolly sky]

Providing evidence to your contrary is not "hate" It's just proving you wrong.

[toxic rampart]

https://fxtwitter.com/Shadoo_creeture/status/1943802860267028958

shadoo🪲🇵🇸(silly creature enjoyer) (@Shadoo_creeture)

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[carmine sierra]

And this time they did

[toxic rampart]

I'm going to burn this into a screen I swear lol

[terse pelican]

Cat-Intermission

[carmine sierra]

Your point is irrelevant when the counter-example is what we're talking about

[flat root]

You don't have a point. Fallacies and bad faith arguments convince no one.
Don't really care about this troll anymore. Bye bye

[jolly sky]

Don't forget there was also "campaign" of sorts to bump up making positive reviews to counteract the hate reviews

[winged knoll]

sadge, troll got banned

[jolly sky]

The evidence I saw on Wayback Machine about the removal of hate reviews not connected to the game was before that "campaign" however

[winged knoll]

I did think that the review bombing of HD2 make a nice comeback story for the team

[jolly sky]

I need to edit my negative review to just include the performance issues

[winged knoll]

also the cape after that is dope af but Sony still ban our country

[flat root]

I genuinely had someone claim to me that "You can't change your reviews on steam" once as a counter.
Only for me to show them a review where I had done exactly that.

[winged knoll]

we are less than human in the eyes of Sony

[carmine sierra]

Personally I'm iffy about it
A lot of people claim it was a bait and switch, except it really wasn't
The game was marked as requiring a Sony PSN account on the store page, and for the first few days it did
They had to temporarily disable that because it was getting overloaded and making the game unplayable, but they said then that it would be coming back

I got it day one and had to dredge up my old password to link my account

[flat root]

Got a game, realized it was very buggy and a mess, refunded it and left a negative review.
Months later I gave it another try, all the issues were fixed and I kept the game and changed my review

[carmine sierra]

If you want to say it's dumb that they require that in the first place, then hey, I agree with you there
I just don't agree with the narrative that they were "tricking" people or whatever

[toxic rampart]

Regardless of if HD2 manages to up the performance in the future, it'll probably be the last first party game I purchase from Sony because of all that tbh.

I'm a stubborn bastard with my morals lol.

[carmine sierra]

From Arrowhead?

Or Sony?

Ah gotcha

[toxic rampart]

I noticed how that could get crossed up lol

[carmine sierra]

Ye 😛

[winged knoll]

troll got banned i got bored again

[carmine sierra]

I don't think it would qualify as first-party from them in this case, they're just the publisher

[winged knoll]

i go do stuff

bai chat

also 🍞 🥖 for the mods

[toxic rampart]

True.
Let's says exclusive or published by lol

[carmine sierra]

Fair

If I remember right, Arrowhead had to basically fight them to get a day-one PC port

Sony wanted to do their usual limited exclusivity

[toxic rampart]

Yotei looks nice for those interested and the Watanabe mode is a nice touch.
But I'm checked out with Sony unfortunately for Sucker punch.

[carmine sierra]

What has Sucker Punch been making lately? I haven't kept up with them since Sly

[toxic rampart]

Uhhh

[terse pelican]

Sucker Punch was a weird movie.

[toxic rampart]

Ghost of Tsushima

And uhhh

Ummm

Lol

[carmine sierra]

Oh cool

I didn't know they made that

[toxic rampart]

Yeah. I think before that tho there was an early ps4 Infamous?

But it's a blind spot for me so idk tbh

[jolly sky]

Well, I changed my review for HD2 by striking through the Geo locking stuff, and now added its optimisation and performance issues

If I could make a score-based negative review, I would raise it a few points for getting rid of Geo locking, but it would still remain negative due to the performance issues.

[terse pelican]

Yeah, The ''Black & White'' of Reviews being either Positive or Negative doesn't give you sufficient wiggleroom to both highlight the good/Bad unless you write a detailed review

[toxic rampart]

I genuinely just thought I might have had a proton skill issue on my part but seeing the windows version run worse was the funniest thing to me.
At this point it's become more and more common tho tbh lol.

Watching the same hardware with two identical nvme game drives run the same game worse from Linux to windows will never not be funny to me.

[terse pelican]

and even then, Most people don't read the long-text of a proper review

[terse pelican]

It's windows, Performance has been dropping every time the number go up, even with better hardware.

[jolly sky]

I've seen examples of its wildly different performance across multiple machines, weaker and powerful

[toxic rampart]

Oh totally. The lack of background bs alone in my distro is a performance boots in most games.

[idle hill]

good morning chatters

[jolly sky]

Like there's been machines worse than mine able to run it better, better machines than mine run it worse, and everything inbetween

[toxic rampart]

It's just fun having a literal apples to apples way of testing something where the only difference is the OS.
And I even have Windows stripped down mostly lol

Then again, that could sometimes be due to dx12 being a POS and proton translating to vulkan which is almost always goated

[jolly sky]

It does't perform well in DX11 (assuming that the DX11 command works)

[subtle gate]

why was chat so disturbed by Thor's "edited dog"?

[carmine sierra]

It's an incredibly tragic story arc from Full Metal Alchemist

[rare dome]

Yea, the story arc is absolutely depressing, I recommend watching the show but you can google the show for an idea of why

[hasty grail]

[rare dome]

HOW DARE YOU

[subtle gate]

I think I will

[carmine sierra]

It's a very good show

I recommend just watching Brotherhood

There was the original FMA show in 2003 which followed the manga for a bit until it caught up, then just split off and made their own story from there
It's not bad, but Brotherhood came back and did the entire manga once it was complete, and it's significantly better

[hasty grail]

i think its watch the first half/third of FMA then watch FMA:B from start to end

[carmine sierra]

Yeah, there's a certain point in '03 where it diverges off, and it's definitely worthwhile to watch up to that
I don't remember exactly where it is though

[hasty grail]

its been too long for me

[carmine sierra]

Brotherhood does start from the beginning, but it does have a problem of glossing over some of the early stuff a bit
Not so much that you don't learn what's going on, but it kind of expects you to have watched '03

[hasty grail]

or be willing to read between the lines to catch up

[opaque raven]

I'm going to leave a card here face down and end my turn

[wet storm]

Hey

What's a mind goblin

Chat what's a mind goblin

[frank remnant]

Sorry for the noob question. I saw the YARR pop up but I don't know where it went. How do I adopt a tag?

[obsidian garnet]

got chat banned : (

just wanted to spread love of water cycle : (

[frank remnant]

woops

[hasty grail]

edit profile

[hasty grail]

put in a ticket with the mods

[wet storm]

https://tenor.com/view/weakness-disgusts-me-senju-gif-13079766

[frank remnant]

Heck yeah, thanks @hasty grail You da GOAT.

[hasty grail]

no worries

[wet storm]

Luv me Legends of Avantris

https://tenor.com/view/gricko-goblin-dnd-dungeons-and-dragons-pained-gif-1751669200743492328

[opaque raven]

🔥 NEW DRAMA!!! 🔥
Thor doesn't name folders!!!

This goes against best practices!!!

[idle hill]

Gonna have to twitter cancel him

[jolly sky]

Then wait on the unban request, and don't forget that logs exist

[rigid nimbus]

new drama is that hes a bad sonn

[jolly sky]

How about we don't discuss drama

[wet storm]

Wait how

I wanna know how to not name folders

Mine are all called variations of Copy of New Folder (2) (2)

[tribal canyon]

i number my folders 🙂

[wet storm]

So do I!

😄

[waxen comet]

i name them however i feel like it

[opaque raven]

Gives me MsC vibes of
Final_Project_finalfinal2_fixed_ready.pdf

[waxen comet]

sometimes its just Tools

or autorun

[wet storm]

Memes aside folders are for grommets

My desktop is a mess

[waxen comet]

i dont have much memes folders

wait

i do

i have a folder dedicated to Kurisu, Herscherr of Sentience, Sucrose, Photoshop requests, Music that i made, etc

[wet storm]

I used to hoard memes. Now I just speed make them with meme generator

[jolly sky]

I have no icons on my desktop, can't stand it and all my folders are named relevent to its contents

[waxen comet]

i like if i could use custom icons

but iirc its a bit of a process

and i dont feel like doing that

[wet storm]

I made this one yesterday

[waxen comet]

havent made alot of music huh

[wet storm]

Honestly f Amazon Prime

[wet storm]

6734761649766400 is a certified banger

[tribal canyon]

same, they just sunset our old prime family plan

[wet storm]

Holy shit hahahahahah

[waxen comet]

the numbered ones are from that one google music tool that they made

[opaque raven]

I don't mind the mess on desktop but on my mobile I really need everything clean and easy

[waxen comet]

idr what it was called

the 673 one is an edit by someone that shared theirs

[wet storm]

Having to sit through ads on a streaming service you already pay for is insane

[waxen comet]

the song honestly feels

weird?

idk how to describe it

[wet storm]

Do you want piracy? That's how you get piracy

[jolly sky]

Lmao I'm the opposite. Desktop is clean, Mobile is a bomb site

[waxen comet]

i have nothing on my desktop

i never use the desktop

[jolly sky]

Yup nothing on mine, hidden all icons

[earnest cove]

Some moron better not contact the government people and say awful things about Thor and sabotage the ferret rescue building....

[wet storm]

Don't give people ideas

[waxen comet]

that feels like its something you can lawyer up

obstruction of service or something

[wet storm]

Anyway regarding streaming ads, that's what I'm afraid might be the future if LLMs

[split tulip]

I have 1k+ items in my downloads folder. who need folders anyway

[earnest cove]

They would have already thought of that idea way before me

[waxen comet]

my downloads just go to the root of the hard drive lmao

like when you open the hard drive folder

[wet storm]

You ask gippidy "hey do I bake the mods some bread" and it uses name brand ingredients as ads

[waxen comet]

its jsut there

kek

[wet storm]

Pro tip, you can set your downloads folder to clean up old items automatically

Only folders I use are for RPG books. I got way too many of them

[split tulip]

but what if I need my overwatch installer from 2022

ok that one I can delete

[gentle mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/note7-newgenerationweapon-gif-6184978

[muted robin]

Tortious interference maybe

[waxen comet]

yea that sounds more legal

[wet storm]

You literally do anything else ever because it's overwatch

[brisk sparrow]

oih man i wish i knew of this sooner

[earnest cove]

hopefully there are preventions because people have already resorted to abusing police systems to get their spite

[opaque raven]

At some point my desktop had the same chaotic diagramming style of an average japanese magazine

[wet storm]

Mods should really just institute a new rule like

No drama, this is a place for fun

-# imagine having fun though that's cringe

[opaque raven]

They try, from time to time you see some deleted messages with links and etc with the sole purpose of drama

[exotic forge]

Anyone bought any games from the recent steam summer sale?

[wary lotus]

I got a ton

I refunded some, but several stayed and were great

[idle hill]

pretty sure they already tried that

[wet storm]

Ayo void crew

EXCELLENT game really

[wary lotus]

Wolfstride is awesome if you are into Mecha and Anime

[wet storm]

It's FLT meets Sea of Thieves

[opaque raven]

Bastion
Darkest Dungeon
Duck Detective and the secret salami
Patrick's Parabox

It was crazy cheap and I'm having a LOT of fun

[wet storm]

With a touch of Warhammer

[wet storm]

Darkest Dungeon is fantastic too

Also very Warhammer

But Warhammer Fantasy instead

[opaque raven]

I'm already reaching like 200hrs of Darkest Dungeon

And I just got it

[wet storm]

I should run a TTRPG game of Warhammer with the theme of Darkest Dungeon

[opaque raven]

I leave it open a lot tho

I already finished on Bloodmoon mode and now I'm doing achievements for 100%

[wet storm]

Did Thor ever play Total Warhammer or Vermintide?

[brisk sparrow]

i think he played vermintide at one point? dont remember

[terse pelican]

I think he mentioned Vermintide, But I can't 100% Remember

[opaque raven]

From all the repetitive questions on stream I believe the ones asking about yml are the ones I'm enjoying the most

For real, it's nice to show and explain what it is and why it is like that

[exotic forge]

Trying to get into Total warhammer but worried about the the new player hurdle

vermintide is the left 4 dead equivalent right

[subtle gate]

I switched to youtube stream to avoid twitch ads

[hard jackal]

He played Warhammer: Vermintide 2. But that was in 2018.

[opaque raven]

Wait...is total Warhammer different from Warhammer 40k????

I spent like 2hrs reading a lot about the warp and etc, fascinating stuff

[terse pelican]

Total War Warhammer is Fantasy/Medieval

While Warhammer 40k is Sci-fi

[wet storm]

Mod jumpscare

https://tenor.com/view/wallace-and-gromit-bread-throw-wallace-and-gromit-a-matter-of-loaf-and-death-a-matter-of-loaf-and-death-bread-snipe-wallace-bread-snipe-gif-21899687

[opaque raven]

But is it the same universe?

[wet storm]

No

It's very very similar

Incidentally the name Warhammer comes from Fantasy rather than 40k

It's the weapon of Sigmar and symbol of station as emperor, Ghal Moraz

[terse pelican]

Which came first, 40k or the Fantasy one?

[wet storm]

That is a complicated question

[terse pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-to-do-nothing-but-time-i-have-time-nothing-else-to-do-i-got-nothing-gif-12334945

[wet storm]

Wait it's not nevermind

[opaque raven]

I'm confused

[wet storm]

I thought Rogue Trader came before Fantasy

[terse pelican]

wat

[wet storm]

Warhammer Fantasy came out in 84, Rogue Trader in 87

Rogue Trader is original Warhammer 40k before it was Warhammer 40k

[terse pelican]

Oh

[bronze parcel]

It's technically not said whether Fantasy is NOT based in the same universe as 40k. It's entirely possible. Both Fantasy and 40k share the same Chaos Gods.

[wet storm]

The fan theory is that the Warhammer Fantasy world is a planet swirling in the Eye of Terror of 40k

Protected by the vortex of Ulthuan against complete annihilation

[terse pelican]

I wish Total War: Warhammer 2 / 3 Wassn't so expensive ( All the DLC's included )

[wet storm]

There's a way to treat total Warhammer. It's like minis

Only buy what you think looks cool

[opaque raven]

What is "Warhammer"?
Shared universe
Writing/game style
Series (like Final Fantasy)

[terse pelican]

But... It's All cool?

[wet storm]

I don't have all the DLC and still rock around 1000 hours into it

(2 and 3 combined)

[terse pelican]

100% Understandable, But OCD wouldn't let me do that

I 'need' it all, or none of it

same with Stellaris. Can't play it unless I got all the DLCs

[bronze parcel]

I agree. I don't want a "partial game" so it's usually all or nothing for me too.

[wet storm]

I assume Stellaris is also a no no then

[bronze parcel]

That's one reason I stopped buying and playing Stellaris.

[wet storm]

Paradox is predatory in it

Hate em

[bronze parcel]

Yep, I basically just never buy anything Paradox anymore.

[wet storm]

Still buy it cos I like it but full of spite

[terse pelican]

yeah... Too many DLCs. While yes, a lot of them are good, but ew. Just, Ew

[wet storm]

Total Warhammer at least doesn't deprive you of content if you lack the DLC

Just can't play that specific set of lords

I stuck with just base Warhammer 2 + tomb kings for like 8 months

Luv me tomb kings

[terse pelican]

Tomb Kings are cool as hell

[wet storm]

Love Egyptian themes

And the story of Khemri is so badass

[winged knoll]

Already did

(not me)

[earnest cove]

aha i knew they're gonna do that. what was done to stop them?

[winged knoll]

Thor already expressed that he doesn't want anything to do with SKG because people are after everything related to him

[winged knoll]

no idea tbh,

I think some of us address this with Ross and he tell people to stop going after Thor

[rapid kraken]

Wrong channel

[winged knoll]

no idea if this type of harassment has stopped yet

[earnest cove]

thunderdome no longer exists

so i don't know where's the new place