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[hardy ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/angle-grinder-pizza-black-pizza-dark-side-pizza-gif-13448369946787042023

[indigo wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/angle-grinder-pizza-black-pizza-dark-side-pizza-gif-13448369946787042023

ROFLMAOOOOO

[jolly sky]

Dude, the entire point of the Initiative is to Make it law

[hardy ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-jarvis-skill-issue-skill-issue-gif-24471438

[indigo wadi]

@hardy ingot my dude

[serene valley]

the alternative is a better worked out initiative that doesn't rely on harassing people to get signatures or blaming someone who hasn't talked about it in ages for it failing

[fluid dome]

Feel sorry for Aussies tbh, they getting spawn camped by wildlife and now they gotta deal with this bs

[spare topaz]

on the contrary; this should be done properly. The initiative should be reworked in tandem with consumer advocacy groups, industry representatives and lawyers familiar with EU caselaw. Similar regulations should be found and cited as examples, clear goals and intentions laid out, and mitigations proposed for any concerns (i.e. live service etc). I am fully for the ideals of SKG, but fully opposed to how it has been worded or put forward

[molten gust]

yes the intiative not SKG. Lawmakers could address this issue

[golden latch]

Isnt the petition only able to bring up the subject for the government to look into?

[teal zodiac]

Can you please give up already? its ok, its fine

[indigo wadi]

skg is the initiatve...what?

[median hornet]

And you're back to the beginning where we stated that we can't trust lawmakers to know how to do that

[molten gust]

So what are you going to do then. Just nothing? You would rather it die than potentially cause any consequences whatsoever

[indigo wadi]

can somone wololo hatter please?

[hardy ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-getting-déjà-vu-right-now-and-i-don't-like-it-bunny-deverin-washington-mayor-of-kingstown-don't-make-the-same-mistake-gif-2253420847227140718

[indigo wadi]

nevermind, i'll do it myself

[fluid dome]

It's to bring it before the ECI so they can discuss. Nothing about the initiative says otherwise

[molten gust]

whats a wololol

[indigo wadi]

@molten gust

[hardy ingot]

fk your flashbang

[median hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-z-abridged-mr-popo-all-these-squares-make-a-circle-gif-20563687

[serene valley]

I do not like this gif

[molten gust]

what am I looking at

[fluid dome]

Hello Epilepsy

[indigo wadi]

to be fair

[serene valley]

I think that gif might have done something different in the preview

[indigo wadi]

I did not realize it did that

[shadow dawn]

I have never seen Aussies described as "being spawncamped by wildlife" and i need it in my vocabulary immediately

[dire burrow]

@indigo wadi don't post gifs that flash

[serene valley]

sometimes gifs be different in preview

[hardy ingot]

that was not very wololo of you

[indigo wadi]

was not my intnetion;.

[wet storm]

Kami, I need you to tell me I can leave the lookout if I want to

[dire burrow]

You're good, just letting you (and chat) know for future reference

[indigo wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/wololo-age-of-empires-empires-szaman-shaman-gif-21642450

here

nonflash

[spare topaz]

what is there to do right now? The ones in charge of the initiative dont see fit to change it, thus there's little any of us can do, and no regulation is better than bad regulation. Theres less than a month left; once this one fails, theres an opportunity to do this again, but better

[hardy ingot]

better, just need black background

[indigo wadi]

no, get whitebanged

[fluid dome]

It's true tho...

[molten gust]

yeah, I admit that this is a valid concern. Its not something I can have an opinion on as I do not study law and would not know how hard it would be for this problem to be addressed

I do feel like lawmakers, or the court through prescedence would have the power to make an exception through this

Its a valid concern tho

[indigo wadi]

I should go check on my soup

[fluid dome]

In five years we'll look back on this moment and meme about it so why bother tbh

[spare topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/soup-mode-seinfeld-gotta-focus-gif-12225708972448345001

[shadow dawn]

I know, that makes it infinitely funnier

[molten gust]

Sorry. If any of you have anything specific please send me a message ill be happy to respond later

[median hornet]

And that's why many don't like this version of SKG. It needs to address these potential issues, removing the vague language, and providing real solutions to go off of. Then it'll be solid 👍

[jolly sky]

And that's the entire point. SKG doesn't know either. They're putting forward a "Simple and easy" solution that is far from easy or simple

[teal zodiac]

5 more minutes and its done

[median hornet]

SKG isn't the problem. The way it was written is

[hardy ingot]

surely

[hardy ingot]

the way it is written makes it one*

[fluid dome]

When you ask for solutions and the response is "let them figure it out" who is them exactly? The Shadow Council?

[jolly sky]

I hope y'all are ready for the 31st if it fails. It's going to be an absolute mess here

[wary drift]

https://tenor.com/view/cooking-kays-cooking-gif-26048632

[chrome kraken]

Completely different topic: I'd love to see a tournament/event for game-making but the caveat is that it needs to function on a ps2. It would be amazing to see what optimizations people could come up with.

[spare topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/so-it-begins-raining-rainy-day-théoden-lord-of-the-rings-gif-16521230

[hardy ingot]

given how much momentum it gained atm am a little concerned it might pass

[fluid dome]

Okay but slim or phatboy....

[hardy ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/tiktok-pizza-burnt-cooking-fail-top-chef-gif-25847959

[indigo wadi]

ya know...my soup ran out of liquid, thus sticking to the bottom, so I added more liquid

[jolly sky]

It's actually incredible the levels of optimisations games had to function on console hardware in those, and previous days

[chrome kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[jolly sky]

Very very smart

[hardy ingot]

just put it in non-stick kettle

[jolly sky]

Well they can't, they'd need to provide Verification that they're EU citizens

[shadow dawn]

U said that yesterday yeah

[indigo wadi]

I need the kettle to boil water for my son

[fluid dome]

The real question is if the SKG can run doom or not, only then will I support it

[jolly sky]

If they can't do that, their vote is null and void

[hardy ingot]

at least it won't stick

[indigo wadi]

it may stick to the burner in the kettle

[minor nymph]

Making shit up is crazy work.
https://x.com/PirateSoftware/status/1938317666147868753?s=19

Pirate Software (@PirateSoftware)

@Pirat_Nation That is absolutely a lie. I am paid minimum wage for this position and have no financial stake in the company. I have been very public about this and it's in my primary post.

My dislike of the initiative stems entirely from the wording to keep all games in a "Functional Playable

X · Jun 26, 2025, 7:25 PM

[chrome kraken]

exactly. It would be so incredibly if someone used those tricks and made a ps2 quality optimized game, except you run it on pc and get infinite view-distance and such xD

[spare topaz]

ngl theres a non zero chance that has already happened given google analytics shows SKG is multitudes bigger during US eveningtimes than EU evening times

[jolly sky]

You need to provide verification of the address you live in, no?

[brittle jacinth]

mess you're underestimating it. It will be an all out war!

[jolly sky]

Yes but after the vote has been reached, you need to provide more than that for it to be counted

[indigo wadi]

Iwas wondering when Pirat_nation would get involved

[hardy ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/reading-gif-24401962

[spare topaz]

jesus, whats the new wild claim now?

[tribal canyon]

hey thor hope your doing okay 🫂

[indigo wadi]

"Reminder that thor
is a key figure at Offbrand Studios, which is publishing Rivals of Aether 2, a paid live-service game with microtransactions.

This is why he is going against the Stop Killing Games initiative."

whoop

[spare topaz]

oh FFS, really? is that all they have left?

[thick ledge]

Twitter brain

[minor nymph]

They are claiming I am against SKG because I work for offbrand games.
Except I voluntarily take federal minimum wage for that position and was public about it.
People don't understand federal law either. I tried to work for free but federal law prevents that.
https://x.com/PirateSoftware/status/1938335775592223007

Pirate Software (@PirateSoftware)

@MJColeman_3394 @Pirat_Nation You legally cannot. Welcome to federal law. I attempted this and had to accept federal minimum wage instead.

X · Jun 26, 2025, 8:37 PM

[thick ledge]

It's terminal

[latent geyser]

❤️ for Thor

[jolly sky]

And also that the game functions perfectly fine offline too so uhhh.....

hmm

Interesting

[brittle jacinth]

it gets to a point where i think even if he complys he still get hate

[spare topaz]

goddamnit, they are truly desperate for their pound of flesh atm :/

[thick ledge]

Yeah rivals works offline

Lmao

[indigo wadi]

watiing for this gem to run honestly

[minor nymph]

Rivals also works ENTIRELY OFFLINE for couch co-op

[jolly sky]

Lmao exactly

Or vs a CPU player I assume

[brittle jacinth]

Thor you know as all of us that they didn't check

[fluid dome]

I remember hearing about that story when it broke and had to do a double take. I hope it's not true tbh

[hardy ingot]

I just love when they claim someone spread misinformation and their first reaction is to spread misinformation

[chrome kraken]

At this rate I'll know more about Thor than myself. Except 90% would be slander/misinformation :p

[gritty tartan]

why I'm not even surprised

[solemn tiger]

Becasue the vast majority of the people in the comments do not care about SKG, they care about drama.

[jolly sky]

I mean after the vote has been reached, I.e. after its reached it goal

Then they'll ask for more details

[hardy ingot]

I am aware. I actually respect Asmon for being one of few people who actually talked about the initiative in his reaction rather than the drama that much

Everyone else was just farming it for drama like crazy

[thick ledge]

Can't even shitpost about thor anymore cuz these guys ruin it

[spare topaz]

so youre admitting you arent an EU national, and that you voted for SKG?

[indigo wadi]

they do better shitposting than most

[balmy bone]

oh, but the drama worked. The petition is up 6% over the past 24 hours.
IMHO, I hope they succeed. I only play indie games so if they want to shoot themselves in the foot. Right for it.

[thick ledge]

I don't think you can be an EU national

[shadow dawn]

The worst timeline, truely

[hardy ingot]

I mean he still talked about the initiative and I still don't agree with him but it was respectable

[spare topaz]

WOOPS WRONG ONE SORRY @jolly sky

[indigo wadi]

Wait did he really actually talk about it?

[jolly sky]

LMAO I was about to say

[minor nymph]

Bitcraft. My man.
https://x.com/tylerfcloutier/status/1938268174778011798?s=46&t=B0-hTOgVWGEs8Ovf55zJ7A

Tyler F. Cloutier (@TylerFCloutier)

As an MMO developer who feels so strongly about keeping games alive that we are open sourcing our code, I have to largely agree with @PirateSoftware.

The reality of game development is complex and unintended consequences of this could harm both small developers and players.

X · Jun 26, 2025, 4:08 PM

[fluid dome]

Wanting it to succeed bc you think it doesn't affect you is an absolutely dismal take respectfully

[brittle jacinth]

yep a vid came out and he's actually more chill than the other

[spare topaz]

chat moved as i was right clicking to respond

[jolly sky]

We already have a decent, and sensible approach to what SKG wants here

[thick ledge]

Pog john bitcraft coming to thors defense

[hardy ingot]

https://youtu.be/cNk4vAdD1WI?si=NS3gKPxhN0xsajo- yeah, he does address the drama as well and I don't agree with his take but he was fairly reasonable I'd say for the most part

[spare topaz]

hell yes!

[indigo wadi]

okay that face though

[solemn tiger]

I hope they succeed, I only play indie games
If they succeed, indie developers will have much harder time creating indie games

[hasty grail]

kind of relevant to all this

[spare topaz]

I suddenly have a powerful need to buy bitcraft

[indigo wadi]

it's a minor bump, it won't last though

[edgy oar]

How much you wanna bet no one will pay attention to this

[indigo wadi]

can you kindly calm down?

[tribal canyon]

na, it will die in comission stage

[chrome kraken]

That's too edgy man. Calm down!

[gritty tartan]

You saying that Asmon is the most reasonable «react streamer» in this situation?

[balmy bone]

The thing is, if they get the 1mil votes. It won't pass as law, it's just a petition for the EU body to talk about the thing.

[hasty grail]

no

[brittle jacinth]

how much? to much to even count

[dire burrow]

hey man clams.

[indigo wadi]

what a timeline we live in

[shadow dawn]

I tried!😭 /j

[hardy ingot]

I am shaken too 😄

[brittle jacinth]

actually from what i've seen yes he is

[indigo wadi]

whoever peter is, thank you 😂

[jolly sky]

Believe it or not, this is the second time Asmon has had a reasonable level headed and understanding take of drama

[fluid dome]

Hey Elon, can you just let me into ur dogwater site so I can read tweets? Instead of ya know, keeping me stunlocked on the login page? Thanks

[balmy bone]

It shouldn't affect single player offline games. And if it does, I would be hella surprised. But this is what the masses want. Who am I, a solo ant, to deny that joy

[jolly sky]

I've got a solution for you, DM incoming

[spare topaz]

@balmy bone regarding SKG impacting indie games, lemme introduce you to the wonderful world of regulatory burden; comment im replying to is my breakdown of the risks im seeing with this

[solemn tiger]

indie game != single player offline game

[wintry pond]

we need more devs to speak out. The majority of this initiative is looking from one side of the issue. The much more important side is staying silent, because they cant speak out.

[hardy ingot]

One thing I love is that he didn't join the dogpiling, he still claims the misinformation is true which I disagree with, but he didn't make it the sole focus of his video

[chrome kraken]

I'd be interested as well

[indigo wadi]

wha

[balmy bone]

please re-read what I wrote. I only CARE about single player offline games. 😉

[indigo wadi]

i can only assume asmon knows what his community would do hence why he didn't dogpile

[spare topaz]

they'll be affected too, just so you're aware - they will all be affected

[fluid dome]

I fear Asmongold might be a regular creator I watch wtf is happening

[hardy ingot]

I don't doubt they still will, his community is... yeah.. heh

[lime vine]

One more tweet i see about SKG on twitter, and im giving the mods bread. I cannot be stopped. (Maybe its time to close twitter for today, im going insane)

[opaque raven]

Another low effort drama thumbnail...why people keep choosing the most innocent looking version of Thor?

[solemn tiger]

in the message I reacted to, you said indie games

[indigo wadi]

course it's low effort. Did you expect high effort for Asmon?

[opaque raven]

I could really appreciate some effort on those thumbnails

[balmy bone]

go back one more.

[tribal canyon]

not me i must add

[indigo wadi]

no idea who that is, but ty :joy;

[brittle jacinth]

CLICKBAIT! its yt so its normal

[chrome kraken]

They can't handle enraged Thor :p

[serene valley]

Shoulda used skibidi thorlet

[wintry pond]

I need to bleach my eyes and brain now

[hardy ingot]

Putting effort into thumbnails? In this year? Wouldn't believe that if anyone told me

[spare topaz]

deeply cursed, thankyou

[wintry pond]

thanks... I guess

[serene valley]

You're welcome

[lime vine]

[opaque raven]

Cmon internet
Do Better!!

[wintry pond]

if you can, it dosent mean you should

[gritty tartan]

oh heck, no. i'm sorry, that's not him liked your tweet. Sorry for my stupidity.

[tight bramble]

I've said this before, but I understand that chat moves at the speed of now.

I dont mind if some games just fade away. Immortality leads to stagnation which turns to hedonism. We need those memories to give context to the past, which brings appreciation to the present, which then offers hope that the future brings new memories. We owe it to our future selves to allow the fading away. I haven't played SWTOR in 12 years, but I still love that game.

[serene valley]

We also have thorby

[brittle jacinth]

views drives the platform so it wont change

[opaque raven]

I want to see fire, some devil horns even, anything but a plain face in the middle

[hardy ingot]

I still remember the days when people would call out clickbaiting, then it became a completely normal thing 😄

[serene valley]

It's called SEO optimization now

[tribal canyon]

thorbubu when?

[chrome kraken]

Don't feed it after midnight!

[balmy bone]

maybe, maybe not. With the current wording, it'll muck everything up. But that can be changed when it gets to the legislation body (I really have to stop using f words)

[hardy ingot]

Yeah.. they even teach it at highschool now

[jolly sky]

hey, could be worse.

[frozen sonnet]

Agreed

[brittle jacinth]

yeah same it was a tragedy back then now for any drama its normal

[brisk sparrow]

why have you reminded me of this

[serene valley]

[opaque raven]

Oh no, what I mean is that the thumbnails are very simplistic, clearly low effort like Thor's face in the middle and that's it. I miss chaotic dramatic thumbnails

[ocean agate]

cursed

[hardy ingot]

Look he needed the reaction out before it stops being relevant 😄

[lime vine]

good god.

[spare topaz]

the core proposal of ensuring games remain in a playable state will, inevitably, need to be translated into EU regulations if it passes. Under the new regulatory framework model that the EU has been using for the last 10-15 years, that means that timeframes need to be considered within it, in the exact same way that everything from biocides to machinery to medical devices have. This is what would be called the product lifespan, during which the manufacturer will be required to offer support, maintenance, or demonstrate to regulatory bodies that they are actively maintaining the product portfolio. The same is true in cosmetics and food too. At present, the EU likes applying 5-10 years at a minimum in its regulations. This is whats called "regulatory burden" and inevitably means that developers will need to make plans to maintain and support games for that timeframe to comply. This is all well and good for AAAs but indies will suffer

[brittle jacinth]

thats what i was going to say

[jolly sky]

Undo

[indigo wadi]

uwu

[dusk pine]

lol

[tribal canyon]

UNDO

[spare topaz]

OH GOD... MY EYES

[gritty tartan]

how can I delete the internet now?

[balmy bone]

I'm sure the SKG people thought of that. And obviously checked in with legal experts in the EU. It'll be fine.

[spare topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/delicious-in-dungeon-dungeon-meshi-marcille-donato-how-do-i-reverse-time-how-do-i-revert-time-gif-15313892737489466402

[hardy ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/once-you-post-something-on-the-internet-it-stays-there-forever-olivia-benson-mariska-hargitay-special-victims-unit-law-and-order-gif-23483068

[spare topaz]

assumptions are terrible things to make when making regulations

[wintry pond]

can we make a petition to kill the internet. I do not wish for that to exist

[lime vine]

piratehardware

[wet storm]

Yes

[chrome kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/my-eyes-ugly-wash-out-eyes-ew-eww-gif-17747667

[jolly prism]

Would

[tight bramble]

Would, next question.

[hardy ingot]

Start Killing Internet

[balmy bone]

and that's the problem I have with all this. Where are the videos from legal (EU) scholars? This is all drama, and well, I'm a dumb dumb.

[tribal canyon]

eye washing is no joke, had to use one once after a airsoft bb fragmented into my eye area

[wet storm]

https://tenor.com/view/pinky-eyes-gross-gif-5364963

[balmy bone]

Just social media. That would be neat.

[hardy ingot]

fk that

[lime vine]

why should we kill something that is already dead. start killing earth.

[lime vine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1035306790969151500/1348929153021251675/attachment-7.gif

[spare topaz]

thats my big concern as well - theyre silent because theres no evidence any of them were consulted, and if they were they've done a damn good job of staying hidden

[opaque raven]

"Thor's wig is made of ferrets?? See the truth here"

Is it too much to ask for something like this??

[jolly sky]

Pirate Faceware

[spare topaz]

Facate Piware

[hardy ingot]

What does face wearing have to do with anything

[spare topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/alien-guy-thats-crazy-woozy-crazy-scientist-gif-8609893263374809391

[wet storm]

I think that reaction pretty much states I wouldn't

[tribal canyon]

facedancers from dune?

[wintry pond]

my biggest problem is that theres no exaples on how to do it. Like, you would not go to a restaurant and ask the chefs to fix your broken car. So why are people trying to give power to people who dont care on understand the industry.

[tight bramble]

Ratepi waresoft

[jolly sky]

Hah if you're in the space of Livestreamers, a whole lot funnily enough

[hardy ingot]

so this one is a pass I take it

[jolly sky]

Especially in China/Korea

[hardy ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/dwight-schrutes-face-mask-the-office-dummys-face-dwight-schrute-dummys-face-gif-17895643

[jolly sky]

And by that I mean that there's a lot of Streamers there using filters on their faces to make them look more "pretty"

[spare topaz]

you win; that is the most "fantasy RPG shop keeper name" we could make. Here are your keys to the city, your regulation stab wound, and a bag to hold your gold in

[ivory leaf]

Well, it is incredibly warm outside, so we might be doing a solid job at that.

[tribal canyon]

we have reached the wierd stage of todays chat

[brittle jacinth]

read. Two choice: What's this word or People on the internet reading * laugh *

[hardy ingot]

we got rain atm, wooo

[tight bramble]

-bows-

[tribal canyon]

good job everybody

[ivory leaf]

Send me some. Please.

[wintry pond]

you want to own games you buy? then go buy single player only games

[golden latch]

Thats why i tell them to buy games on gog and itch if they want to own a copy giving them options is better cause so many dont know

[hardy ingot]

here you go
https://youtu.be/a2giXO6eyuI?si=NY7zPgLblQCke5Bt

[jolly sky]

It's why I respect Steams changes upon buying a game, and that it tells you that you're buying a license.

If people want licenses to go away, then they'd better hope for a time travel machine to go back 20-30 years

[ivory leaf]

[tribal canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-fire-flaming-sesame-street-gif-12040137

[thick ledge]

Just require a disclaimer

That's such a simple request

And everyone would get behind it

[golden latch]

Very simple and good customer service plan

[thick ledge]

If you expect a game will one day become unplayable, then require it to be marked at such

That's it

Ez

Not no instead we have internet blood bath for no reason

[golden latch]

Online drm is my belothed

[thick ledge]

No one likes drm of any kind

[chrome kraken]

I still prefer physical media whenever possible. It also just looks neat.

[tight bramble]

Belothed is a beautiful word...

[wintry pond]

so, every game ever, since people dont know if it will flop and they mush shut it down

[fluid dome]

I wonder if these posers would have the same energy when it comes to the preservation of other forms of media like movies, TV shows, books, or music probably not 🙃

Bc I can tell you rn, it's an absolute ball ache in those fields too

[indigo wadi]

Has anyone used the Elevate app?

[indigo wadi]

They're only onboard because of the drama.

[jolly sky]

Exactly, knowing that you're buying a license rather than a game that you can own forever would do a ton of work.

With an obvious disclaimer, hopefully that would lead to less sales, which would mean that publishers would rethink their strategies.

A Hopepost I know, but that would be a better end goal

[hardy ingot]

But how do we then preserve The Day Before and Concord to play it 50 years from now 😦

[golden latch]

Its a necessary evil but making it so it literally kills the game if the company goes out of business or stops support is horrid

[fluid dome]

Don't forget Mindseye

[spare topaz]

betting you now that most of the SKGers haven't read the damn thing to know what they are rageing for, so imma suggest no

[golden latch]

Yeah im an archivist and its a minefield

[jolly sky]

Lmao what a mess of a game

Ex-Ubisoft devs made Expedition 33

Ex-Rockstar devs made Mindseye

[chrome kraken]

Wasn't there a case where a game would be removed from Steam but they made it possible to download it and just have it stored locally?

[hardy ingot]

Curious how that vampire game goes

[fluid dome]

I'm so glad my dad drilled it into me years ago about the importance of physical media

[spare topaz]

Thankyou for your service in preserving the past

[indigo wadi]

that's honestly wild

[golden latch]

I try my best (still beating my head against the brick wall that is making a nas server)

[jolly sky]

So any game that you have already bought means that you will always be able to download it

(See the previous version of the GTA games before the "Remasters")

Even The Day Before, a game that was entirely removed from Steam because it literally did not sell as was advertised can still be downloaded

[thick ledge]

https://youtube.com/shorts/QJKBv-rOD30

[golden latch]

Atm im using usbs as my temporary fix

[fluid dome]

Also as an addition to being for preservation, I'm also very much in favour of Restoration where possible. If a piece of media can be brought forth to the modern day without compromising the original vision too much then I'm all for it

[golden latch]

Csgo

[spare topaz]

hmm...interesting...hitting head against a brick wall yields a chance of creating a NAS server...noted!

[tight bramble]

The headaches mean it's working lol

[hardy ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

[jolly sky]

Granted, that is one example of that not being the case. But it's also a Valve made product that is functionally the same as CS:GO, just with graphical updates

[golden latch]

“Creating the nas for me has wielded similar effect to” is more accurate

[fluid dome]

Question tho, but would it be more or less feasible for publishers to provide communities with the tools to jailbreak legacy hardware as a paid thing?

[golden latch]

and cant run on my potato

[spare topaz]

WHAT!? My thousand person NAS headbash experiment is ruined now

[golden latch]

It changed the whole engine not just graphics

[warm trench]

The next petition will be to mandate computers that can run the latest games for $100. It is a basic human right to play as much game as possible.

[hardy ingot]

the head bash?

[golden latch]

Csgo changed to csgo2

[jolly sky]

See I am also for this in some respects. the Remasters of Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 1 & 2 made the games entirely playable on modern hardware. (Soul Reaver 1 couldn't be played natively because it was locked to the PS1) but Soul Reaver 2's original PC release can still be bought and played

[hardy ingot]

Well I suppose it would impact more than just visuals..

oh I see

[tight bramble]

How do you hack a computer?

With an axe!

[jolly sky]

(Slight edit, a PC version of OG Soul Reaver 1 does exist but its so borked that its not worth playing)

[opaque raven]

Garlic bread should be delivered every morning, by law, on everyone's house. Idk how but I want it

[fluid dome]

I do have to say I find it impressive that GoG was able to get the original Resident Evil trilogy tbh.

Afaik the source code was lost or something, not sure on the specifics

[spare topaz]

FINALLY, a petition i can get behind

[warm trench]

I did just make garlic bread - sorry, I ate it all...

[tribal canyon]

but on what type of bread?

[spare topaz]

we are mortal enemies now, my apologies in advance

[golden latch]

Banana bread

[indigo wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-gingerbread-man-you-are-a-monster-broken-leg-shrek-gif-5498298

[tribal canyon]

and can the mods eat it?

[warm trench]

I'll just need to put you on a garlic delivery list

[fluid dome]

I also miss when we had cool stuff like Gamesmaster on TV. Miss that show.

[tight bramble]

Old school g4 tech TV is the goat, period the end

[golden latch]

Pricemaster was my favorite

[urban venture]

https://tenor.com/view/pricemaster-pog-pogchamp-gheedstreasure-youtube-gif-17380308295937255998

[warm trench]

Thighmaster commercials wha?

[urban venture]

LOL

[golden latch]

Correct

[spare topaz]

Time Commanders was an awesome TV show, even if it was short lived

[hardy ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/colleen-wing-i-could-smell-your-garlic-breath-iron-fist-jessica-henwick-netflix-gif-9529491

[indigo wadi]

what is this

[fluid dome]

Dominic Diamond as like, the god of games answering fan questions and giving you cheat codes and stuff

[jolly sky]

This might be a hot take, but the Internet was a better place when it was used by the nerds and geeks. The opening and easy access of the Internet to the every person has caused SO many problems

[urban venture]

How much for this item pricemaster?

[golden latch]

The price master

[golden latch]

5 million

[tight bramble]

3 dollars and 2 quarters

[opaque raven]

All types ofc, idk, we can write whatever now and later we decide

[urban venture]

Search pricemaster on youtube. Acting students doing a freaky funny yardsale

[indigo wadi]

ah

[fluid dome]

ALSO I have so many game magazines from decades ago

And cheat books!

[urban venture]

5...

MILLION

[golden latch]

5 million what?

[fluid dome]

Cries in having something tangible in my hand no more

[urban venture]

...

DOLLARS

[fluid dome]

I want games to come with instruction booklets again

Miss those

[golden latch]

How much would you pay for a booklet? /srs

[indigo wadi]

3 buttons

[nova bough]

i do like online shopping tho. i never have to step into a store unless i actually want to.

[fluid dome]

Assuming it's packaged with a game and the box is mint, probably around £20

[tribal canyon]

garlic bread, tea and cheese

[warm trench]

Wait, have some left

[tribal canyon]

nom, no you dont anymore

[golden latch]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-it-down-all-elmo-fire-flame-gif-5756411097673413271

[hardy ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/henry-phillips-henlips1-henrys-kitchen-burnt-waffle-gif-26339624

[golden latch]

For a second i was confused on where it went

[jolly sky]

Yea that I can give props to, but I'd argue that the tradeoff is severely not worth it lmao

[nova bough]

just delete social media and we good

[frozen sonnet]

Honestly I’m about to delete it myself

[nova bough]

unfortunately this includes discord. well have to go back to teamspeak.

[jolly sky]

Now that is an initiative I can get behind

[warm trench]

Mumble

[hardy ingot]

misreads it as "delete myself"

[warm trench]

Wait - Roger Wilco

[jolly sky]

See to me, I don't count Discord as social media for a number of reasons, its closer to a forum than social media

[frozen sonnet]

That as well

[opaque raven]

Discord isn't social media
It's more of a place to put cat pictures

Cat pictures repository

[hardy ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/jump-fall-fail-fall-into-the-garbage-can-cat-gif-16669737

[golden latch]

Youtube is social media and it has lots of cat content i dont thing the cats are the deciding factor

[nova bough]

discord is social media, to me. go back to forum sites instead.

[opaque raven]

People only talk after they are fed with cat pics

[fluid dome]

Y'all don't remember the hit game Monster Hunter: Freedom for the PlayStation Portable™- do you?

[opaque raven]

Oh ye? Show me one cat content from YouTube

[opaque raven]

CCC
Cat Content Creator

[jolly sky]

The reason why I don't consider Discord to be social media, is because if you make a discord account, that is all it is. It means nothing without joining a server, whereas with social media an account means you have access to damn near every angle of thought

[golden latch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-space-nyan-cat-gif-22656380

Im an old

[warm trench]

I see the music

[chrome kraken]

I smell the music

[indigo wadi]

you need to sign up for anything social media wise. Discord just has an extra step of joining a server

[jolly sky]

Which is also how old forums worked back then. You couldn't interact, or even sometimes view a forum without specfically making an account for joining that forum first

[golden latch]

Having 200 logins wasnt fun

[nova bough]

same with chat rooms and iirc, both of which are probs social media. they just mostly died off

[jolly sky]

Oh for sure, which is why I see discord as like a "streamlined forum access" rather than true social media i.e. twitter, facebook etc

[nova bough]

i still remember AIM and MSN Messenger

then it was skype

[indigo wadi]

UH OH

[jolly sky]

Nudge

[chrome kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/savingprivateryan-ww2-old-soldier-matt-damon-gif-4203998

[nova bough]

then discord. and now in corporate america, ms tea.s

yes im fing old by y'alls standards

[spare topaz]

oh god i feel instantly aged - i remember these well and it hadnt occurred to me that msn has been gone for like 2 decades until now O.o

[indigo wadi]

are you preinternet old?

[warm trench]

ICQ, mIRC

[jolly sky]

I didn't use AIM, but I am old enough to have been around its existence

[warm trench]

I ran a BBS

[nova bough]

im 37, didnt get internet until middle school

[worthy ivy]

MSN messenger crew represent wut wut! 🙂

[indigo wadi]

STILL EXISTS!

[golden latch]

The local watering hole was the best social experience

[warm trench]

UUNET

[nova bough]

i forgot about that one

[indigo wadi]

it just came to mind, i used to use it

[opaque raven]

For a while a part of the Nint Switch community used Guilded as our main group chat and sharing space, a platform owned by Roblox iirc. Pretty fun actually

[jolly sky]

But I also used AOL, and remember the sounds of Dial Up

[indigo wadi]

I remember pre-internet days

[nova bough]

https://tenor.com/view/dial-up-modem-computer-vintage-dialing-process-gif-16902140

[worthy ivy]

mmmmmm bitnoise

[warm trench]

using Gopher

[indigo wadi]

I honestly miss them

[woeful epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-kenobi-name-starwars-gif-11340385

[jolly sky]

MOM GET OFF THE PHONE I'M USING THE INTERNET

etc

[golden latch]

I still use gopher sites they are surprisingly useful for research

[worthy ivy]

shhhhhhhhhhhh-zrrrnk-zrrrnk-zokk-shhhhhhhhhhh-bleepty-bleep-bleep-beep-shhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[hardy ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/icq-gif-oldschool-gif-5567603

[nova bough]

dude my mom would get so mad cause id get on the internet and shed want to call

[indigo wadi]

UH OH

[warm trench]

V.42 Bis handshakes

[jolly sky]

As it turns out, the screaming of the Dial up connections was a future warning

[golden latch]

I know some families that got two phone lines cause of this

[nova bough]

i had a friend that did this. i was so jealous

[indigo wadi]

okay but who remembers

[warm trench]

Who remembers the off-hook signal?

[golden latch]

He knows its just one part

[hardy ingot]

now imagine that in a time when almost everyone likes to stream at least something

[jolly sky]

"Wait until he finds out"?

Dude he's known about this for longer than you know

Also, #piracy-requests

[golden latch]

And?

[hasty grail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/987123333659250688/1309990764448714852/Piracy_Requests.gif

[indigo wadi]

no one remembers microsoft comic chat?

[dire burrow]

you do realize its in early access right

so what do you mean by "first day of release"

[golden latch]

It was one step to catch some hackers not all you know that right? Its a filter

[opaque raven]

This looks so cool, what's that btw?

[jolly sky]

Wait till you hear about the rules regarding it, and how mentioning anything related to it is also against said rules

[golden latch]

You use multiple filters and catch as many as possible is the point of drm

[dire burrow]

what

[opaque raven]

Cutest loading wheel I've ever seen

[hardy ingot]

ICQ, used to be a social app

[ocean agate]

flower throbber?

[nova bough]

i hate this

[indigo wadi]

sooo whats your point?

[hardy ingot]

tbf probably still is, just not used anymore really

[ocean agate]

but am i wrong?

[fluid dome]

Man, Sekiro has some mad frame data lmao

[nova bough]

....no

and i hate it more

[dire burrow]

Oh, by the way, you have already been warned about discussing Piracy in this server.

[jolly sky]

LMAO

[warm trench]

Did you know if the serial number of a 3.5 disk is not set, it will not be used to boot from even if the 3.5 floppy was made to boot?

[indigo wadi]

thor isn't cocky about his protection btw

[opaque raven]

ICQ
I Seek You
1997 IM platform, oh cool

[golden latch]

If you think thats what he is cocky about that understand he only talks about it if its not something important especially when it comes to his code that just bad info security otherwise

[jolly sky]

Funnily enough, talking about it is promoting it

[nova bough]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-star-trek-gif-19129737

[indigo wadi]

good logic

[earnest spire]

so regarding lawmakers coming together to determine what is said about the initiative does it include like devs and other relevant people

[jolly sky]

The logic of Discord's TOS, I recommend you read it.

[indigo wadi]

talking about pirating is promoting it

[hardy ingot]

no, no, it has nothing to do with team fortress actually

[opaque raven]

Did it cause interference or something?

[spare topaz]

...the basic logic of why talking about things spreads ideas?...the literal foundational concept at the heart of civilisation? that logic?

[golden latch]

It can, they may call in “experts of the field” who that is can vary a bit

[nova bough]

dial up internet used the landline phone. so you couldnt call while someone was using the internet, and cant use the internet when someone was using the phone.

[indigo wadi]

and talking about it is still promoting it

[golden latch]

Not to everyone

[earnest spire]

so any game company involve in making games

[spare topaz]

its a repeating process, one which you seem to be doing here, now, at this moment in time, in this server

[indigo wadi]

simply put, don't talk about pirating on this server

[jolly sky]

Doesn't mean you're allowed to mention it here, or in any server as per the TOS

[indigo wadi]

unless its' about Pirates of the Caribbean

[hardy ingot]

I can see this one is going to be an amusing one already

[golden latch]

Yeah they could call a ceo to represent

[indigo wadi]

certainly can be viewed that way

[frozen sonnet]

I love those movies

[hardy ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/agreed-pirates-of-the-carribean-gif-15127372

[golden latch]

Or a professional in business specializing in video games

[spare topaz]

if you spoke about knife crime the same way you spoke about it being hacked then...yes?

[wanton elm]

Yarr?

[indigo wadi]

not at all, it's common sense

[golden latch]

Tell that to discord

[jolly sky]

https://tenor.com/view/davy-jones-davy-jones-pirates-of-the-caribbean-reverse-happy-suprise-suprise-gif-26096850

[indigo wadi]

if a rule says don't promote forms of violence, then you wouldn't talk about knife fighting

[worthy ivy]

tied up the whole line completely

[earnest spire]

both indie and triple a games even nintendo?

[hardy ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-sparrow-spyglass-gif-25603003

[golden latch]

What if its a sword not a knife? /j

[indigo wadi]

this is australia, that's a spoon

[opaque raven]

The past...sounds terrible, but also very chill

[jolly sky]

Oh they be gone after trying to argue against server rules, and against Discord TOS, how suprising

[golden latch]

Thats up to the ones making the laws to determine yeah

[vivid maple]

so wait we having spoon fighting now?

[spare topaz]

oh...looks like the mods exploded that one

[jolly sky]

Also thank you for the shot (I asssume Wolp)

[indigo wadi]

awww and he agreed with my point too

[vivid maple]

are we gonna spoon each other

[opaque raven]

Ok, let's take a WILD guess here ☀️
What's roughly the average age of the active users on this server?
I would guess...20

[indigo wadi]

yes

[jolly sky]

Yea I saw that before defenestration

[indigo wadi]

good word

[worthy ivy]

I was speed king with my 56k dialup connection for a little while - till ADSL2 happened then I upgraded

[golden latch]

Never heard of knuckle spoony?

[nova bough]

im probably going to feel sad and old

[worthy ivy]

that's kbps

[spare topaz]

well im 36 so im already skewering your average - get rekt nerd

[brittle jacinth]

i don't relly think its that low

[indigo wadi]

haha haha haha i wish

[jolly sky]

I reckon 16-40

The age range that is

[hardy ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/spoon-big-spoon-funny-mad-evil-stare-gif-17762991

[jolly sky]

So average around 25 ish

[golden latch]

Well im an outlier if thats the case

[indigo wadi]

this spoon vs @minor nymph's spoon, who wins?

[golden latch]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-walker-gif-4456070846517955697

[vivid maple]

https://tenor.com/view/huge-bitch-deuce-bigalow-rob-schneider-gif-12618957

[open gulch]

It’s way past May buddy

[hardy ingot]

I'd guess it's all within one century

[golden latch]

Yeah it may be just a little misinformed it was out of date when that picture was taken too

[earnest mirage]

i'm currently in the i'm old, but not that old, but don't want to talk about my age stage 😄

[indigo wadi]

i'm old enough to know, but young enough to not care

[golden latch]

Okay 25-35 was the dont talk about you age kids on the internet era

[earnest mirage]

yeah sounds correct

[minor nymph]

I feel like the internet needs to be held back this year.
They aren't performing well enough to advance to the next grade.
https://x.com/PirateSoftware/status/1938350359933866259

Pirate Software (@PirateSoftware)

@slynova88 @Cthulhu_OwO This is a lie.

I worked at Blizzard in QA, then lead of AppSec on BattleNet, then as a Senior Red Team Specialist in IT. My dad was the Director of Cinematics and did not influence my jobs there. After that I worked as an Automation Engineer at Amazon Games Studio. Then I was a

X · Jun 26, 2025, 9:35 PM

[golden latch]

What a young sprout you are 😊

[jolly sky]

Lmao, its like earlier I said that I feel that the Internet was in a better place when it was the space of nerds, as much of a hot take that may be

[indigo wadi]

lol

[golden latch]

Are you advocating for gatekeeping 😨 /j

[jolly sky]

Nowadays it just promotes everyone to have an opinion, and therefore allows everyone to follow it

[indigo wadi]

"barely did anything" i guess 20 years of cinematics is barely anything.

[earnest cove]

Man Action Dan just one look into anywhere and they're accusing thor for abandonning his game even though it has monthly beta updates.

[indigo wadi]

so much wrong nonsense

[brittle jacinth]

it gets to a point where i'm just amaze about how many people can stir up drama

[golden latch]

They dont like the story is all im hearing there

[earnest spire]

talking out they ass

[indigo wadi]

i mean, irefuse to acknowledge shadowlands

[formal kestrel]

your dad worked at the same company therefore must have got you the job duh
(just to be extra clear from the actual assholes this is a joke)

[earnest cove]

it's not doing the initiative they're supporting any good

[brittle jacinth]

nah for todays standard you need 50+ years to be average

[hardy ingot]

I am so glad they care about the initiative and it's not about attacking a person at all

[minor nymph]

I know right?

[jolly sky]

And also I've said this before, but having access to global community as nice as that sounds, our brains are not evolutionarily prepared for

[earnest spire]

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-gif-24395495

[formal kestrel]

i hate that people ran out of things so its just attacking you and your family rather than actually discuss the thing everything is about

[brittle jacinth]

true its has gotten to a point where its not the iniative

[opaque raven]

Help me understand this
You guys go into Twitter and find bad takes
It's like being surprised to find trash inside the trashcan

[fluid dome]

How dare you exist on the Internet /j

[indigo wadi]

constructive reply

[tribal canyon]

time to nuke the BGP routing table, should give us all enough time to think

[indigo wadi]

oh im not surprised.

[brittle jacinth]

very construct and though out

[fluid dome]

He got owned guys, pack it up

[earnest spire]

say no u

[nova bough]

uno reverso card go

[jolly sky]

No but seriously, our brains are still in "Village mode" and not in "Here's the entire world at our fingertips" mode

[indigo wadi]

i avoid twitter like the plague 99% of the time

[fluid dome]

I'm so glad Elon runs Twitter

[livid path]

Just saw that lmao

[formal kestrel]

twitter made people way too comfortable with just attacking others

[indigo wadi]

get it right. @grok runs twitter

[livid path]

Dude thor was responding to was saying that Thor was implementing online only features into heartbound LMAO

[fluid dome]

Why would you expose yourself like this

[earnest mirage]

@oscarbot, is that right?

[tribal canyon]

yea and VERY easy to nuke the global routing table if you know anybody with access to any ISP's kit

[nova bough]

critical thinking and forming your own opinion is at an all time low too.

[indigo wadi]

Can't hide forever. The Light always finds a way

[formal kestrel]

@ grok is this true

lmao

[indigo wadi]

George Carlin would cringe

[lucid mason]

This is really painful. I don't understand why people are vehemently attacking Thor when in my opinion he pointed out the valid feasibility problem of the initiative.

[indigo wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/carlin-george-carlin-shit-balls-shit-comedians-gif-24667349

[nova bough]

covid messed up a lot of kids, and it was iffy before that. add in AI to that mix, and its only making it worse.

[formal kestrel]

ai is making peoples critical thinking worse than ever

[indigo wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/george-carlin-rules-of-the-road-gif-14674789

[brittle jacinth]

i wonder what the community notes would say in that situation

[indigo wadi]

OMG THIS SCENE

[hardy ingot]

And it never ceases to amaze me no rock bottom has been reached in that sector yet

[livid path]

This is nothing compared to the WoW drama. Even when thinking of vile internet behavior I don’t think of what some people were saying. It was mind boggling levels of hatred

[indigo wadi]

i think 24 hour news did that

[jolly sky]

And the internet and Social Media has played absolute havok on having available time to engage that said critical thinking and forming of one owns opinion in general. The internet has made it way to easy to distract ourselves.

There were times when, in a village, you'd have to do things that were easy to do, and to let your mind wander and actually think.

The internet has destroyed that almost entirely with its prevalence

[opaque raven]

I mean, I work with statistics and many times studying the outliers are a great way to better understand the group
GG outliers, econometricians have their eyes on you ☀️

[hardy ingot]

I actually use AI (only chatgpt really) but people who rely on it too much are fascinating to watch

[brittle jacinth]

its because we are drilling and the hole only gets deeper

[nova bough]

i had someone in my management at work tell everyone in a meeting that we all need to learn prompt engineering, or be left behind.

and all i could think of, is that line of thought makes people abandon critical thinking if done in excess

[hardy ingot]

Gotta reach planet's core at some point

[indigo wadi]

the eff is prompt engineering?

[lucid mason]

I think as people who aren't game/software developers, normal people are just disregarding the feasibility problem since they have no idea about it at all

[indigo wadi]

is that like...engineering on time?

[jolly sky]

Basically being able to put a bunch of words in order to make an "AI" do what you want

[golden latch]

Oh i know the odd ones are amazing references for new knowledge

[indigo wadi]

"hi, im here to engineer your office promptly"

[tight bramble]

On schedule nerd work hehe

[livid path]

It’s the study of figuring out how to ask the AI what you want from it to get the result closest to what you actually want

[nova bough]

but also you can learn anything on your own without input. but its like everyone collectively forgot high school English and getting good sources.

[earnest cove]

I don't think it's AI or covid. I've seen similar behaviour before it. The problem is that they feel empowered and incentivised to be hostile

[livid path]

Aka prompting the AI

[hardy ingot]

tbf anyone who knows how to use google can do that

[indigo wadi]

why is that even a thing to study?

[hardy ingot]

You literally control AI the same way you do google

[indigo wadi]

in other words...making nonsense up

[earnest cove]

Whenever i look in any comments it's the same talking points repeated by 1000000000000000000 people because that's what they repeat to get approval

[hardy ingot]

Just don't expect it to correct its errors..

[livid path]

Because if you just ask it for something you will only get something super roughly kinda what you’re asking for, unless you know exactly HOW to speak to it, what keywords to use and in what order, etc.

[opaque raven]

I mean...it sort of makes sense
For a weekend course

[hardy ingot]

Gone down that road and it.. it sucks at that

[nova bough]

its... well its basically learning to form your queries for AI, and its dumb

[hardy ingot]

what I love about this is at this point I saw AI that does that for you. Yep, AI makes you queries to use with AI based on keywords

[indigo wadi]

Cosmetology is a more intelligent course

[nova bough]

...i hate this. i hate all of it

[jolly sky]

True, I've been doing that for years, and which is why I think a "Prompt engineer" shouldn't be a job, as the end result is still something entirely creating something that you had little-to no-input in.

The argument that "AI is just a tool" I feel is false, as no other tool actually creates something for you. You still need to learn how to use the tool to create something which "AI" completely skips

[vivid maple]

oh great now i have to break my wallet

just realized the summer sale started today

[nova bough]

AI is a tool, but it has limitations and is not a whole job to use it.

[earnest cove]

the sale is on but the game i want were not on sale 😦

[indigo wadi]

I got my eye on something already from the summer sale

[opaque raven]

No AI will ever substitute the beauty of the Pokémon Stadium narrator during battles

[tight bramble]

The worst piece of news 😞

[frozen sonnet]

Facts

[livid path]

Expedition 33 is 10% off chat it’s time

[indigo wadi]

please ignore the publishing company

[earnest cove]

out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on uni courses now made with chat gpt in mind and students showing off their chatgpt prompts on graduation (not clickbait I really want to know)

[vivid maple]

i already got all those

[indigo wadi]

yeah but it's remaster. And it's like for $7

[hardy ingot]

AI is just a tool issue is it's like UE5, UE5 is a great tool, but because of its popularity it is used by everyone including people who are going to entirely rely on it doing all the heavy lifting

oh, a fire alarm at my village at 10 minutes to midnight, that's unfortunate

[vivid maple]

they keep thinking thor is double and tripling down

[indigo wadi]

BUT HE IS!

they said it so it must be true

[fluid dome]

Mfer is so down he's gonna get down to boogie

[hardy ingot]

Wait there were people actually talking about the initiative somewhere too?

[spare topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/they-had-us-in-the-first-half-not-gonna-lie-gif-13620240

[worthy ivy]

gaslighting the AI into hallucinating the stuff you want instead of random crap

[jolly sky]

Exactly, and that "tool" makes it easier for people to completely ignore the complexities and understanding of game design.

And once something comes along that UE5 cannot solve, they're going to poop their pants and panic, because the tool has allowed them to ignore the fundamentals

[indigo wadi]

Can the AI turn into CABAL from C&C?

[hardy ingot]

I mean yeah, that's always been an issue though

Before UE5 it was Unity

[indigo wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/kane-dance-command-and-conquer-gif-11455202

and here' kane dancing for no reaosn

[hardy ingot]

UE5 just makes it even easier to do stuff with literally 0 knowledge and make it seem worth anything

[fluid dome]

God dammit automof

Aaaaaaaaaaaa

[indigo wadi]

https://youtu.be/7qI9v0olx9U omfg

[opaque raven]

I want more AI
I want AI to fry eggs and make me garlic bread every morning
I want AI to clean my living room and do laundry
I want AI to drink water for me

[jolly sky]

Which is what has lead to a lot of UE5 games being horrifically optimised, because they don't understand the methods needed to do that

[hardy ingot]

I want AI to code my AI to organize my other AIs!

[fluid dome]

I am being stunted at the knees with my vocab and I hate it

[spare topaz]

"@Grok, become human for me"

[opaque raven]

As long as at the end all those AI can bake me some carrot cake I'm all game

[hardy ingot]

The most ironic part is coupling the most intuitive engine for non-coders with the most difficult language to work in out of the modern ones 😄

[jolly sky]

Oh there's a great Futurama joke that plays on this

[indigo wadi]

https://youtu.be/14jgGE2AZfY roflmaooooooo

[fluid dome]

Futurama is based

Matt Groening is based

[worthy ivy]

I was trying to find the episode

[hardy ingot]

based on what tho

[fluid dome]

Based on deez

[jolly sky]

https://youtu.be/B5oGJTUpbpA?si=j6Yz91Iq7k2Nr4hG&t=80

[jolly sky]

Found it

[earnest cove]

futurama predicting the world too accurately

[hardy ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-raccoon-gif-18000918

[indigo wadi]

love tim curry

[jolly sky]

Wait lemme find the timestamp

Didn't realise it was an entire compilation

[worthy ivy]

'robot! experience this tragic irony for me!'

[jolly sky]

There we go, edited

"Robot, activate yourself and do my research"

Grok/ChatGPT/etc personified

[indigo wadi]

"I'm sorry Action Dan. I cannot let you do that"

[spare topaz]

oh god, futurama really did see the world that was coming

[fluid dome]

PewDiePie being absolutely based by advocating to degoogle

[hardy ingot]

Self reflection?

[exotic forge]

I don't think prompt engineer is an actual job. I'm a software developer and I can tell you that actual coding is 50% or less of my job. Most of it is meetings, creating design documents, communicating features to stakeholders etc

[jolly sky]

Between PewdiePie and James Lee, both of those have done a good job at making people realise that Linux and free alternative software is not as bad as it seems

[hardy ingot]

Yeah I meant more like, examples? (of what he should self-reflect on)

[spare trellis]

James Lee mentioned, based

[fluid dome]

I will say Pewds has been on an incredibe run of form lately

[tribal hare]

a lie will travel halfway around the world before the truth has even put on its shoes

[spare topaz]

youre the one coming in here telling someone to, what, quit? maybe some self reflection is needed on your end, considering youre proposing every moderator and the ferret rescue should be closed to, as the streams keep everyhing afloat

[tribal hare]

at this point just tell people to sign it and let them bear with its own concequences. people will then have no one to blame

[spiral crane]

he did not say quit

[opaque raven]

I mean....not to be that guy but you joined the server yesterday and by your very short message history it's possible to easily see some very....weird takes. Cmon...

[nova bough]

it isnt. but some managers have drank the buzzword koolaid

and i hate it

[exotic forge]

Did you want Thor to take a break and reflect from the SKG because other people on the internet are being disgusting bullies or is it because you think Thor's opinion is wrong?

[indigo wadi]

i can't stand buzzwords anymore

[spare topaz]

what do you think step back means? any form of disengagement would mean loss of revenue, because the only place he actively engages is the twitch stream

[random rover]

I just finished watching the stream vod of Thor playing expedition 33 ending but diddnt finish end game content, I couldn’t find the next vod of expedition 33, does anyone know if he has finished it and which vod it might be

[jolly sky]

https://tenor.com/view/james-lee-gif-25437958

[nova bough]

perhaps we should circle back to this in tomorrows daily standup

[spare trellis]

My favorite animation he's made has to be tarboy, wish there was a sequel to it so bad

[earnest spire]

not yet

[spiral crane]

I think he more meant stop replying in the heat of the moment, there is alot of stress and hate going on and its hard to think clearly. I don't understand why you assume thats quiting. It's not quiting to take a break

[indigo wadi]

oh no...

the drama has peaked

[nova bough]

the ferrets are questionable? whut

[balmy bone]

what? why are the ferrets a questionable thing?

[brittle jacinth]

how is the ferret weird

[exotic forge]

Ah I see, so you mean the latter then

[spare topaz]

you should leave. now.

[balmy bone]

?

[distant rapids]

Doesn't matter if thor teps back or not, nothing he does will satisfy the haotors. Thor steps back temporarily, they say hes a coward. Thor continues to go on as usual, oh now he's a coward for not facing things. Thor addresses the issues, oh thor is someone who is too arrogant to backdown. It's insanity and the redditors cant see it

[nova bough]

theres nothing wrong with running a ferret rescue

[spiral crane]

I dont understand I just joined I didnt mean any disrespect by this?

[jolly sky]

I don't know the veracity of their claims, but I've seen people who say that being a Prompt "Engineer" as their job, although that could quite easily be a ploy to get interest in the "AI" sphere

[brittle jacinth]

nothing weird same as you and i with pet

[hardy ingot]

Highly ironic statement given they can't handle his critique

[golden latch]

The “piratesoftware situation is crazy” i got bingo!

[brittle jacinth]

not you. hiro need

[spare trellis]

You mean sending death threats, pictures of his house, and various other threats and insults is criticism? That's just my two cents

[spiral crane]

sorry misread

[exotic forge]

Oh I'm sorry. So you didn't mean the latter then. So Thor's opinion on SKG are valid but you just want him to take a break why?

[indigo wadi]

AT LEAST Phil won't feed into the drama and present the facts

[exotic forge]

What about Thor's stance on SKG?

[brittle jacinth]

whats wrong about having a different opinion

[indigo wadi]

he literally runs a rescue, hello?

[golden latch]

Just laughing at the quote i hear all the time to mock the drama

[nova bough]

not sure if genuine or bait

[spare topaz]

you came in here and the first thing you said is that the man who keeps food on the table for 16 people and 60 ferrets should step back out of the public view, proceeded to question the ferrets wellbeing, and accused us of manipulation.

youre not here to make friends, you are here to attack. leave now

[brittle jacinth]

probably a ragebaiter!!

[hardy ingot]

Ah, terrible, he criticized an ignorantly written initiative that can cause insane amounts of damage to the industry he cares about, how dares he

[frozen sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-gif-20369681

[exotic forge]

I believe Hiro is here to rage bait

[nova bough]

fair

[brittle jacinth]

you think what you think is true I do what i think is true

[hardy ingot]

Nothing to help there. His stance on SKG is completely valid.

[frozen sonnet]

Hiro tried this yesterday as well

[hardy ingot]

Good, you managed to comprehend obvious sarcasm.

[brittle jacinth]

its just a ragebaiter like always

[golden latch]

Its us or them 😡

[spare trellis]

Should I make a mod ticket or something lol

[nova bough]

aaaahh i see

[distant rapids]

I have "accuses thor of banning everybody with disapproving opinions" ready on my bingocard when this loser gets banned for ragebaiting with a new account

[jolly sky]

"The way he keeps them"

Are you an expert in keeping Ferrets?

Because the Ferrets are looked over and kept by an Exotic animal expert with actual training. and they exhibit all signs of being looked after correctly.

[fluid dome]

We should send Hiro to the Lithuanian salt mines atp

[gritty tartan]

Saveafox situation wasn't enough for you, people?

[exotic forge]

So you're saying this Hiro person was rage baiting yesterday and today with regards to Thor and SKG?

Interesting

[hardy ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/ironic-star-wars-chode-gif-5274592

[indigo wadi]

"repeated attacks", oh Phil, don't do this

[frozen sonnet]

Yes

[nova bough]

"fake news" 😂

[brittle jacinth]

i looked into it i think something that doesn't mean me, you and pirate have all of the same opinion

[indigo wadi]

what fake news?

[golden latch]

Okay what parts are fake?

[distant rapids]

Ah so that"s why thor circled direct quotes from the website hmm?

[golden latch]

Details can help us learn

[hardy ingot]

He criticized why the way it was written is too vague and general to work. The way it's written at the moment threatens irrepairable damage to the industry.

[jolly sky]

You think that "Taking opinions taken from a poorly worded Initiative" as "Fake news"

[nova bough]

are...we even going to give the troll time of day?

[distant rapids]

Lmaooo no.

[hardy ingot]

Tell me you didn't watch the whole video without telling me you didn't watch the whole video.

[brittle jacinth]

CAT

[hardy ingot]

And there it is!

[exotic locust]

Phillip DeFranco is being very fair to Thor so far. 5 minutes into it so far

[nova bough]

they want my dinner

[spare topaz]

<@&362005405901127710> , we have a rage baiter on our hands, and someone who is more than willing to question the ferrets safety too

[hardy ingot]

No, you tried to state a fact that is factually incorrect.

[brittle jacinth]

some of us have a diferent pov on this so yeah we have a diff opinion about something

[jolly sky]

Look we've had an un-ending amount of people who support SKG have completely different ideas of that SKG wants.

[exotic forge]

Let's see if Hiro can complete the bingo card.

I need them to say "roach" and "world of warcraft"

[vivid maple]

wtf sid alpha is now shitting on thor

[dire burrow]

Open a ticket in the future.

[brittle jacinth]

send it to me pls

[nova bough]

"mana" too

[jolly sky]

If thats not poorly worded, I don't know what is

[earnest spire]

'nobody is attacking him' sure

[winter sierra]

ragebaiter in chat O_o

[spare topaz]

my bad, will do

it was a heat of the moment thing

[distant rapids]

Snyways, besides obvious troll being obvious and unable to watch videos longer than 1 minute long, here's a lion blepping i took a photo of

[jolly sky]

If the people who support SKG cannot accurately describe what it wants, it's poorly worded. It's as simple as that

[brittle jacinth]

ah ragebaiter... how the internet has never changed

[grand ravine]

🦞

[winter sierra]

just a big kitty

[hardy ingot]

And if the idea is exactly what it's written like, then it's terrible for everyone should it pass.

[formal kestrel]

[nova bough]

https://tenor.com/view/but-trump-gif-1624425386441397719

[brittle jacinth]

a kitty that could kill you

[hardy ingot]

You have yet to state any true critique

[earnest spire]

people who support SKG simply trust the government on fixing it

[brittle jacinth]

we tried to understand your pov

[winter sierra]

oop

[nova bough]

annnd they're gone

baaiiii

[warm trench]

pooft - yes!

[ocean agate]

purged?

[brittle jacinth]

got deleted

[formal kestrel]

mods i hope you are all getting plenty of rest and stuffs

[warm trench]

deresed

[distant rapids]

I am out of the loop on lobster. What does this mean

[tribal canyon]

and bread

[brittle jacinth]

mods working overtime since 3 days

[ocean agate]

someone is going to be so confused if they try to read the logs now, lmao

[spare topaz]

sorry again for the callout @dire burrow, i will absolutely lodge a ticket in future

[nova bough]

https://tenor.com/view/kissing-the-bread-brian-lagerstrom-smooching-the-bread-giving-the-bread-a-kiss-gif-14286366944496546785

give the mods bread while no one is looking

[distant rapids]

Aw yeah actually thor isnt here, mods get bread 🍞

[dire burrow]

[jolly sky]

Yea that person reeked of "You bring valid reasonable points against it, therefore no one is allowed to talk against it" vibes

Like please, please can people gain some common sense

[hardy ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-loaf-gif-26074269

[dire burrow]

They seemed to just not want to change their view at all and just argue

[brittle jacinth]

worst of all we were like "oh we just don't have the same opinion"

[ocean agate]

i keep geting told common sense isn't common

[spare topaz]

it was the insinuation that somehow the ferrets were being neglected that made me see red a little

[nova bough]

it isnt

[fluid dome]

Okay so the DeFranco video isn't so bad so far

[jolly sky]

Yep, just stuck in their viewpoint and unwilling to hear any other viewpoints

anyway

[winter sierra]

i do have something to say, i feel like one of the biggest arguments against thor is that he has a huge ego, but i dont really see this anywhere and i really dont think its true. im thinking people are reading his tweets with the wrong tone in mind

[jolly sky]

Better things

[formal kestrel]

when they came in with the first thing being "shouldnt he take a break" i was thinking nope not engaging :D

[fluid dome]

They actually buffed the rarity in the latest patch for balancing reasons

[hardy ingot]

I just love how everyone immediately jumped to the misinformation conclusion because of how manipulative the editing of Thor's video in Ross's video is to make it seem that way

[indigo wadi]

Yeah, Phil is pretty balanaced unless he has a bias which he does let his viewers know

[brittle jacinth]

or that the skg is the thruth and anyone against it is false

[distant rapids]

The funny thing is, i actually disagree with thor on some of his points on the skg thing. I want them to sign, because i think bringing attention to the matter, even if unclear, is better than no attention- but the difference is in not rude about it. I can believe what i want, and so can thor.

[tribal canyon]

it feels more like other people's egos effecting all this at this point really

[nova bough]

imo its his voice. he has a ver naturally authoritative voice, and that seems to rub some people the wrong wau

[jolly sky]

The problem is that, Confidence in the areas that you know about can be misconstrued as "Egomania"

[spare topaz]

central tenet of any religion: establish a creed by which to determine who is in and who is out

[hardy ingot]

People goddamn hate when they're wrong and can't prove you wrong

[winter sierra]

yeah i agree, and sometimes he writes tweets in an angry way (at least it seems that way to me) and lots of people think they can try to take advantage of that and then be assholes

[teal zodiac]

I'm gonna leave this here.
Has nothing to do with the discussion, at all, nope, just a random graph

[jolly sky]

If the attention brought to the movement meant that people would be more willing to discuss the problems with it, I'd completely understand

But now, there's a lot of people where their emotions have grasped a chokehold on their brain stem and they're unwilling to let it go

[indigo wadi]

why

[spare topaz]

and that is absolutely fine - i may disagree with you on that, but you're doing it in a way that should just be the human response - i just wish the missionaries that keep floating in here could do the same

[nova bough]

https://tenor.com/view/boburnham-inside-netflix-internet-computer-gif-21887509

[thick ledge]

what do we call it when you rapidly slide up and down the scale depending on your mood

[grand ravine]

yeah theres a lot to critique from the way he handled the situation to even some of the points he made, although I generally agree with his stance on SKG I think the way he's handled the situation as a whole comes off egotistical and self-centered, whether that be because he either can't recognize the issue or merely has had his view shaped by negativity bias is something that we can't really know, but regardless their are faults here and anyone not pointing to them when trying to provide critique isn't being helpful or simply wants engagement, if you want to have discussion on the topic then people should try to communicate their issues on the subject in a meaningful and direct manner.

[warm trench]

hmm.. I'm starting to hear my ceiling fan... do they explode when they go out?

[tight bramble]

Wonderful movie

[tribal canyon]

not again....

[hardy ingot]

and?

[indigo wadi]

zero reason to post just the video

[brittle jacinth]

we just say : "change our pov with facts and insight" and they started talking sh*t

[thick ledge]

is this supposed to be secret because the discord has done nothing but be bombarded by this video for 3 days, weve all discussed it at length

[nova bough]

i especially love that particular song

[jolly sky]

Oh look, a video we've never seen before and that we didn't know about this until this very moment

[maiden talon]

I can only imagine it getting A LOT bigger...another large youtuber posted a video about it...

[grand ravine]

it means:

🦞

[brittle jacinth]

he just joined

[thick ledge]

correct

[formal kestrel]

imo you can bring attention without needing to sign that though, you can have people speak about it without needing to sign the thing, signing the thing means you agree with how theyre suggesting on bringing it which many do not

[brittle jacinth]

a new guy....

[hardy ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/internet-explorer-gif-24879124

[thick ledge]

i assume they thought theyd be banned for it

[indigo wadi]

the difference here is Phil won't dogpile, just bring the facts as best he can

[thick ledge]

-shrug-

[fluid dome]

Parrot react this fool

[distant rapids]

Yes and this causes a problem. I juat don't think lawmakers are svavy enough to write law that would actually enforce the "fullness" of what skg demands

[winter sierra]

i agree, but its hard to get people to be civil :P i try my best lol

[gaunt remnant]

We sent em from gen chat, you're welcome streamchat

[exotic forge]

Hello @sick quail !

I notice you're a new user that joined today and linked a very controversial video about Thor and SKG!

[nova bough]

too many old people in lawmaking

[glad nimbus]

Phil had the most level headed explaination so far

[teal zodiac]

We will have our revenge, soon

be aware, be prepared

[spare trellis]

I think there's a big difference between people disagreeing respectfully and people then hurling insults because their view doesn't align with others, that's why nobody takes the disrespectful ones seriously

[distant rapids]

I still have nightmares of the lawmakers in the us asking... who was it, microsoft? "Technical questions'

[brittle jacinth]

Like have they not something else to do

[nova bough]

oh god. yeah. that.

[hardy ingot]

who is Phil? I don't know all popular youtubers, sorry, didn't find him with quick google

[grand ravine]

alas it seems civility is a commodity too often in short supply these days

[fluid dome]

Heck u >:( /j

[spare topaz]

.....thanks bud....thanks a bunch (internal incoherent screaming into the void) (but in all seriousness hope you're good!)

[ocean agate]

i think people should be content with not agreeing. its one thing to want to make sure someone understands your point of view, its another to demand they agree with it

[indigo wadi]

Yeah, he's my #1 guy I rely on for balanced take in news

[wet storm]

It's that time of the year bros

https://youtu.be/PGlIMH-tgr0?si=9xRsBIaoboZfEoXJ

[spare trellis]

Nuh uh /j

[kindred sedge]

Philp Defranco. Youtube news person

[indigo wadi]

560k now

[fluid dome]

Nerd

[jolly sky]

@sick quail So here's the crux of the matter. Do you want to politely discuss the issues that are being presented with SKG?

[glad nimbus]

He's a large news Youtuber that just released a video today eplaining the situation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtAvBriIn0I&t=847s

[earnest cove]

I think current society have become "attack those who disagree with us"

[warm trench]

The very first thing, giant picture of him on my google search

[indigo wadi]

6.61m subs

[glad nimbus]

same!

[teal zodiac]

Soon many will become machines that turn
70% discount into 0 hours played

[hardy ingot]

it found xqc's video for some reason for me on youtube 😄

[exotic locust]

Phil was incredibly fair, but I wish he talked about people are bashing Thor personally and professionally.

[winter sierra]

my veiw on skg is that i dont care about it nearly enough to have a strong opinion so im kinda unbiased. although i dont think thor deserves to be harassed at all, hes had to deal with so much ><

[spare topaz]

the fact that all this attention only garnered less than 100k extra signatures is...pretty damning actually

[cold barn]

My thoughts/take on this thing boils down to this: If your movement was prevented from gaining ground, destroyed, by one, frankly, mid-level influencer and gaming streamer, making two videos nearly a year ago on the subject? That says more about your movement than it does about the influencer.

[exotic locust]

Like the harassment is too much

[hardy ingot]

thank thee

[warm trench]

Google is so weird..

[teal zodiac]

oh no, what could we do about it???

[glad nimbus]

[indigo wadi]

unfortunately, that's not part of the SKG stuff, even though it is happening, it's not overall relevant in this regard to reporting on it.

anyone with a functioning brain knows that no one should be attacked at any level

[swift lily]

I don’t know how Thor handles all the hateful remarks.

[distant rapids]

Yeah the idea that thor "destroyed" the movement is laughable to me. Since the wow discourse, i bet that inspired many more to sign out of spite

[teal zodiac]

you are absolutely correct! im convinced now, thanks

[indigo wadi]

He's thick-skinned but has his own ways of dealing with it

[grand ravine]

people rarely engage in discussion wanting to change their opinion or even learn

[jolly sky]

I feel as though the SKG movement simply did not realise the sheer level of complexity it would need to go though to make what it wanted a reality, and also realise how impossible some of the things it wanted would actually occur

[brittle jacinth]

convince all of us WITH FACTS and not the normal thing

[spare topaz]

oh look, a missionary, telling us to bend the knee

[grand ravine]

I like this image

[brittle jacinth]

Keep it

save it

[teal zodiac]

show to your kids

[tidal gale]

oh brother lol

[tribal hare]

dont let your enemy know your next move
Fool them all
ask them to sign the petition, prove them wrong
it probably wont get far anyways
they will have no scapegoat

[jolly sky]

In good faith I cannot as SKG did realise how impossible some of its objectives are to implement without hurting indie and solo devs.

[earnest cove]

Yeah a lot just want to win or flaunt

[tidal gale]

Rough week for our boy eh

[distant rapids]

Yeah, likw now they have to go to the province level in canada to get canadian lawmakers interested, but i havent seen any movement towards that since last year

[winter sierra]

i think trying to discus anything complex with the large majority of gamers goes this way

[spare topaz]

oh look, another missionary telling us to bend the knee, this time with pascals wager mixed in

[brittle jacinth]

lets say a rule for online game is implemented for all. Sorry but as an indie i'm not going to create these type of game

[jolly sky]

Because it does not understand whatsoever how Copyright and IP laws plays into it.

In other words, the creators of the games to have rights to own the game that they made

[spare topaz]

it would substantively increase regulatory burden on indies unless the proposal was extensively reworked to explicitly state what is meant by "left in a playable state"

[glad nimbus]

It's actually not too bad and a fairly leveled explanation of the situation, but now even more eyes are on it

[indigo wadi]

Yee

[earnest spire]

sadly consumers wont have to deal with the consequences except devs

[brittle jacinth]

and thats if its pass in a good way

[earnest cove]

FarmRPG exists. It's browser style but also mmo

Technically they're a live service game. It's indie as well

[jolly sky]

You don't have the rights to that disc either. You only own the disc itself, and not the media on it

[tribal hare]

but thats only if it passes. its not a bill its just a discussion and it wont go anywhere. even then they have to bring on experts which are devs themselves

[distant rapids]

Yeah like, servers cost money. If i, as an indie dev, make 10 indie smol games with simple multiplayer, i have to pay for 10 games worth of server service in perpetuity

[spare topaz]

you still wouldnt have rights to the game even if the proposal was successful, you would only serve to ensure that the EU will now mandate a minimum timeframe for operability

[median hornet]

Legally, correct

[tribal hare]

if it fails everyone is going to blame thor forever and you wont be able to take that back and its pain to convine the entire human population otherwise

[spare topaz]

threats dont work well as conversion tactics

[brittle jacinth]

most online game store you actually don't own the game

[jolly sky]

No as a matter of fact, you don't. You only "own" the physical disc, not the media that is on it. The back of the case will tell you that

[frozen sonnet]

[distant rapids]

Nah they will get distracted by another scapegoat, perhaps political, and mald at them until they find a new target

[hardy ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-dont-think-i-will-captain-america-old-capt-gif-17162888

[brittle jacinth]

Now imagine the mess in the twitch chat

[spare topaz]

thats actually truer than you realise

[jolly sky]

that is exactly the case, yes.

[teal zodiac]

lol

this is so precious

[ocean agate]

you own the paper.....the ink, but not the words or the story

[tribal hare]

wait so is it like NFTs?

[white mica]

https://tenor.com/o2EHc7Xbfms.gif

[spare topaz]

do you...have you ever read european regulations, @sick quail? do you even know what the act of buying a thing even is?

[earnest spire]

you just use the book

[jolly sky]

If you tried to make a sequel to a book that you read, the owner of the book would sue you so hard that you would never see the sunlight in your bank account again.

[hardy ingot]

Yeah Thor's just unlucky that people can't live without a scapegoat for own failures

[spare topaz]

you are buying an imprint of it - you own none of the words, you are not allowed to reproduce it, you arent allowed to use it in any way except that which the publisher permits you to use it, which is often cited at the beginning of the book

[grand ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-face-massage-cat-love-sleepy-yawns-gif-26132730

[fluid dome]

@thick ledge can I bully you (affectionately) rq? I wanna test drive a new insult

[grand ravine]

have a kat, but no kit, gooday chat!

[tribal hare]

im taking that gif

[jolly sky]

Because you cannot make 1's and 0's based off of someone elses IP.

[thick ledge]

wtf

[hardy ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-cat-cat-dance-cute-cat-dance-ai-cat-gif-15064057413633942575

[earnest spire]

the book wasn't taken care enough and it crumbles when you flip it

[thick ledge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZNJWFfvBRo im too busy listening to this song

[earnest cove]

You may buy the book but you don't suddenly become the owner of the story and have the rights to demand royalty.

[thick ledge]

from this indie game that just came out RIGHT NOW

[warm trench]

1's and 0's on the hd is the virtual ink, the context and instructional intent you do not own.

[ocean agate]

1 or I is electricity, 0 is no electricity. you do own that, but not the sequence

[earnest cove]

That's what the chat is trying to tell you

[distant rapids]

Colloqial "own" =/= legal "own"

[jolly sky]

But the end of goal of SKG (as per its initiative) would forcibly give the right to said game to every single individual

[earnest cove]

I can buy the game Okami but i cannot publish another Okami spinoff unless i do the legal things because i don't own the story.

[fluid dome]

@thick ledge pls it's just a really quick comment :3

[indigo wadi]

whelp

[white mica]

LMAO

[thick ledge]

go ahead

[thick ledge]

🤔

[tribal hare]

did someone get removed

[fluid dome]

You're an NFT that nobody wants to buy

[distant rapids]

... were they zapped or just left

[spare trellis]

I just watched that person get evaporated

[dire burrow]

that guy used slurs.

[jolly sky]

Welp, hopefully they understood some level of how IP and Copyright law works before their defenestration

[hardy ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/escalated-quickly-anchorman-drinking-gif-5112090

[formal kestrel]

i own the physical book, i dont own what is written on it, if it was say lord of the rings for example i guess

[gloomy forge]

You wouldn't download a car, only if its converted into 1 and 0s.