streamchat

[drifting silo]

Not someone id activly watch I dont really vibe his voice but a very interesting chat

[gaunt remnant]

The message doesn't matter if the way it is delivered isn't "right"

If it isn't "right" people ignore the message, even if it is true

[opal bronze]

exactly

if you can do both emotional and logical simultaneously you have it for the most part

[gaunt remnant]

The worst part is, Thor might be doing that without realising, but haters are also doing that themselves

[fallow fable]

people say the voice thing about Thor

[gaunt remnant]

They try to "tell him he's wrong" (I'm being very generous) by throwing insults, being sarcastic and mean. So of course he's not gonna listen to them

[opal bronze]

which then feeds the loop

[gaunt remnant]

And it becomes a vicious cycle

[keen cradle]

Reminds me of one time my mom pulled the age old "I don't like your tone" when it was in text messages and thus, as far as I could tell, it was impossible to ascribe tone to it

[slow veldt]

ah but tone is inferred over text!

the choice of words you use, capitalizations, how you use punctuation and how they internally view your written voice

[indigo wadi]

But doing that is taking as an insult now

[gaunt remnant]

Those are codes not everyone knows and/or follows. Especially older people

[keen cradle]

Indeed! From my perspective this valent inference had to be some kind of emotional bias on her end.

[gaunt remnant]

It's not a law of the universe, it's a text message etiquette, that you don't know if you don't use text messages super often

[slow veldt]

I'm not talking about specifically netspeak- even non-online people who write emails or receive emails can view tones

it's how we process that information we're not being objective

[opal bronze]

i can tell whos over 30 by how they type usually

or at least if someone types a certain why i reckon they are over 30

[gaunt remnant]

Tone through text is super subjective and is very emotionally biased

You will be more likely to read something as being more insulting or angry if you are feeling bad or angry yourself

[slow veldt]

Yes I'm not saying it's Accurate or giving the person who's trying to infer it REAL useful info but someone going "I don't like your tone" it feels silly to say that but there is tone they're reading

[gaunt remnant]

Yes but that is a bad accusation to make to someone. Saying "I don't like your tone" through text when it's heavily biased by your own emotions doesn't mean anything

It's like if someone walked in a room normally and someone told them "Why are you being so aggressive?"

[indigo wadi]

Tone is absolutely conveyed through text. IT's why I typically use emojis to convey the tone I'm intending to be taken

[gaunt remnant]

It is conveyed through text, but it's super subjective too, and we should never forget that

[serene valley]

depending on who you are talking to, emojis can be misinterpreted too

so that's fun

[indigo wadi]

I know how the internet thinks. I'm good at reading it's tone

[serene valley]

it can even literally be the OS of the other person that makes it a different meaning

[opal bronze]

tone is conveyed through text but just correct yourself if there's a misunderstanding

[serene valley]

this is why we have tone indicators

[keen cradle]

In my specific case, she had some pre-conceived bias that I had to be mad at her about something, and thus ascribed my neutrally phrased and punctuated answer with some kind of aggression.

[opal bronze]

although i try to pre correct myself to prove im not just backpeddling

[wet storm]

Assuming tone from text is really dangerous and tipically the way I go about things is asking if I perceive something negative like "what did you mean there"

[gaunt remnant]

Do you want me to show chat the most subjective thing you can send through text? That I've seen so many people have a different personal interpretation of? Look at this

:)

[keen cradle]

Okay but :) is contextual

[indigo wadi]

i hate you

[indigo wadi]

K

[gaunt remnant]

Everything is contextual

[wet storm]

🙂

[cobalt arch]

Tone reading from text is a learned skill while speech is more instinctive. A baby can tell when you are sad.

[wet storm]

Now what do you do

What did I meeeean

[keen cradle]

Totally fair

[opal bronze]

i prefer the tone indications that are built into text rather than the stuff slapped on the ends it just takes away from the text and is lazy, resolving a problem that people came up with solutions to

in regular conversations, there are situations where its easier for everyone involved

small groups who misunderstand easily and often for example

[gaunt remnant]

If you tell someone "I like you too" and they answer " :) " you could interpret that as someone liking what you said, or being non-genuine, or even dismissive

It can be so many different things depending on how you interpret it, how you feel, what the context is, etc

[opal bronze]

i typically interpret that as positive without any additional evidence

[wet storm]

In 99.999% of times I've seen misunderstandings of tone it was because the person who misunderstood it assumed the worst

Like "Oh they're saying bad shit about me or about something I like" etc.

When in fact it was just honesty

and not necessarily negative

[opal bronze]

there's other problems bundled in with that like afraid to confront or ask in case you put the idea in their head that you were thinking that way

[indigo wadi]

I will typically doublecheck what someone means

[wet storm]

An example in a different community I'm part of, very recent too, was "man these admins just need to ban griefers"

Someone understood it as "these admins are shit" when it was more like "these griefers need to get banned"

[opal bronze]

but 9/10 i will say its never usually that serious and if it is it will be with a stranger that you couldnt care if you severed a tie with

[wet storm]

and it cause a WHOLE thunderstorm for no reason because in the end everyone agrees

[indigo wadi]

'It's a feature of the condition" Okay Dr. Besthesda.... /s

[gaunt remnant]

Exactly. Context is easily misinterpreted through text, as is tone

[wet storm]

And that's what I mean with not assuming the worst

Or assuming negatives

[serene valley]

it is when you get other people who communicate the same way

[wet storm]

and instead assuming positives

[gaunt remnant]

If your red isn't my red and your green isn't my green, why would my tone interpretation would be your tone interpretation?

[keen cradle]

Same ex that told me they wished I would just yell at them assumed the worst when I went to bed because I was tired after a hard day at work. (We were long distance)
Like bruh I wasn't mad at you but now that you're being accusatory and reading into literally nothing I'm getting annoyed.

[wet storm]

The better part of assumign the best as well is that if you're wrong and the person did in fact mean the horrible thing someone could assume, they call themselves out and make fools outta themselves instantly

Sublime schaudenfreude

[opal bronze]

see instead of /s i would put like a kappa or an emoji that designates the text as sarcastic, this works for both people who understand tone and adds to the text and for people who require it

[indigo wadi]

I don't have a kappa emote here

[wet storm]

🙂

[indigo wadi]

and /s is wider known as sarcasm

[opal bronze]

do we have one actually i thought we did

[wet storm]

<sarcastic response :)>

[keen cradle]

Wait Kappa is meant to denote sarcasm?

[indigo wadi]

None for me

[opal bronze]

oh damn nvm

[gaunt remnant]

It is

Just like this

[keen cradle]

[gaunt remnant]

[indigo wadi]

Always has been

[wet storm]

We have this:

[indigo wadi]

😏

I guess I could use smirk

but

that could be smugness too

[gaunt remnant]

But this also means many things

[opal bronze]

nah thats taken

suggestive or smug

[indigo wadi]

Yeah

[wet storm]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-jk-penguin-laugh-its-was-a-joke-gif-14574338

[gaunt remnant]

This emoji has a very different meaning on the internet today

[indigo wadi]

oh i know

[keen cradle]

What we're learning today is that communication is a trashfire

[wet storm]

That to me conveys "heh nothing personnel kid" behaviour

[opal bronze]

my /lh is "lmao" or "lol"

[wet storm]

The old addage of if someone needs to say they're great they're actually not that great-emoji

Very complex smirk

[indigo wadi]

"hate keeps you stuck" PPL DON'T CARE DR K

[gaunt remnant]

Communication is difficult because our best example of interpretation is ourselves, but we are all different so when we are too different, we can have a very hard time understanding each other

And if we assume we're all the same, we don't understand why we can't understand each other, we get angry, and we hit each other with rocks

[flint sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/nootcoinada-noot-noot-noot-pingu-wearenoot-gif-10262976141602962406

[keen cradle]

(I say this as someone who took technical communications in college)

[wet storm]

THANK YOU immediately stolen

[indigo wadi]

Marry me

[flint sinew]

taken

[indigo wadi]

I'm open to poly

[flint sinew]

[indigo wadi]

lol

[gaunt remnant]

I don't think it works like that

[indigo wadi]

I'm pan so what do I know?

[wet storm]

You're a cooking implement?

[flint sinew]

[indigo wadi]

yes and imma fry your ass

[gaunt remnant]

No they're a Dragon Ball GT character

[flint sinew]

😭 chill

[woeful geyser]

tiktok already did that to them tho

[wet storm]

That sounds counterproductive to say to a pan

[indigo wadi]

I am, was said in jest

[flint sinew]

omdsfadsfadsf

[keen cradle]

As a pan* person this joke is both reductive and also hilarious

[indigo wadi]

roflmao

[flint sinew]

stop being funny 😭

[wet storm]

It's all good fun

[gaunt remnant]

You're on a roll

[indigo wadi]

if i'm pan, then I got the entire kitchen of head issues

[wet storm]

Don't say that or Myke will stir fry me

[keen cradle]

Bread mentioned

[gaunt remnant]

God damnit alright now you have to stop

[indigo wadi]

my boots were made for wokin

[wet storm]

Thank god 'cos I'm fresh out of puns

[gaunt remnant]

[indigo wadi]

Go to Freshco and buy some more

[gaunt remnant]

Trying to analyse if there is a pun in this or not

[keen cradle]

Dr. K over here suggesting nuance to the internet

[wet storm]

That's how I know I did a good job

[wet storm]

That's his content

[keen cradle]

It is and I love him for it

[wet storm]

There's like 4.5k people in there

If 1% learns something that's like 45 people

Which is an entire classroom

[indigo wadi]

actually

4.6k

[wet storm]

'like' implies a 1k margin of error

I don't make the rules

[keen cradle]

Through all the bs in the stream chat today I did see at least one person learn from it and that's all worth it

[indigo wadi]

but it was a 100 margin of error

[wet storm]

Dang you got me there

[indigo wadi]

💯

[wet storm]

How dare you completely destroy my argument

[indigo wadi]

I strained through your argument

Now I should funnel my energies elsewhere

[wet storm]

Man isn't pan he's the whole kitchen

[indigo wadi]

yup

[jolly sky]

I do hope some of the hate watchers had their perspective turned around. It's a slim chance, but I still hope regardless.

[indigo wadi]

same

[keen cradle]

I'm about to go to the store for dinner stuff what should I get (besides bread for the mods of course)

[wet storm]

I don't think that's the most productive outcome from that conversation

[indigo wadi]

Cheese for all the whine haters

[wet storm]

because hate watchers are gonna hate watch regardless

The best possible outcome is what I said on stream, that Thor stops giving trolls attention, since that's exactly what brings that level of negativity

[indigo wadi]

He did stop

[jolly sky]

I did not say that it was. All I said is that I hoped it changed some perspectives.

[indigo wadi]

it did nothing

[wet storm]

An argument I had with Myke was posted on Twitter and it was HARROWING to see my face in there

What put peace in my heart is the fact it had...24 views

Not likes, views

Why even acknowledge it exists

[wet storm]

Hard disagree

Replying on twitter to obvious trolling ins't stopping

[indigo wadi]

For awhile he didn't engage.

like, he tried to engage willingly, then ignored, then addressed

[strange ember]

I was watching from Dr. K's side. There were a few people that had a realization, and a lot of people that were like "hey I do that stuff too".
The after-action report on his stream also had a couple cool resources. "The Missing Missing Reasons" on issendai . com, and Mentalization

[indigo wadi]

Like Month...2? he tried to ignore

[wet storm]

I might've missed that then 'cos I don't think I saw a period where someoen would say something heinous and not have the piratesoftware twitter reply to it

It did see it stopping on stream

[indigo wadi]

Not 100% sure on twitter but def on stream

I don't pay attention to twitter

Like his "anything for content" video was in response of the hate still going on with him choosing to ignore it

[wet storm]

If I were Thor, which I'm not (promise), I'd pretend the trolls don't exist and continue to do cool stuff and not bring that to communities where it can be clipped/screenshotted etc. (this includes saying X person was banned because even that feeds into a narrative, if someone's banned they're banned and that's it no need to share), and foster only the sort of positivity that got, for example, myself here (from the shorts about taking it easy)

[wet storm]

That anything for content video was goated, but I think fighting back misses the point that you're not fighting against sensible people who are willing to listen

[serene valley]

tried that

didnt work

[indigo wadi]

I believe the reason he posted it was as a resource for those in the community to respond with when said arguments would surface

[wet storm]

Idk maybe I'm wrong, but to me it felt like a half measure

Trolls don't need to hear how many people got banned, if they get banned they'll just make another account, for example

w/e I should prolly shut up, there's a lot on Thor's plate already

[indigo wadi]

I think saying "X number were banned" is to show just how large of a problem it's been

[wet storm]

To sensible people, yes. To trolls is like "lmao banbot"

[strange ember]

I think even if he had just said "I screwed up. I'm sorry" Like literally just that. No context. Nothing else?
I don't think this particular event would have let that work. The narrative by most of the other sources I saw were very...... um... there's a word for it... "drama bait" isn't the right word, but it's in the ballpark of the result.

Everything I saw, and I didn't see all of it, was stuff that was dissecting Thor, blaming Thor, picking apart Thor. I was never shown content that dealt with anything except for "What PirateSoftware Should Have Done" or "How PirateSoftware Could Have Saved The DM Run" and the like

[wet storm]

Now if seeing this doesn't bother Thor, then that's cool, no need to do anything carry on. If it does, weight in the positive with the negative?

[indigo wadi]

He didn't screw up. That's the point. People were blaming him for the entire run dying and 2 ppl dying. There's no reason to say "i'm sorry" when he's not the one responsible for it.

[strange ember]

To us? Yeah.
To someone thinking emotionally it could easily come across as bragging, as deflection, as defensiveness, or as misdirection

[wet storm]

Hot take but the main mistake was playing Hardcore WoW in the first place

Horrible thing, terrible really

[indigo wadi]

Playing in the Onlyfangs, yeah

hardcore wow is fine

it was the content guild.

[wet storm]

Oh dude, even worse

[indigo wadi]

Like I get making a couple of good friends, but the negative fall out? I honestly don't now if that's worth it

It wouldn't be for me, but i'm not Thor.

[jolly sky]

And all this from the actual start of it all, Yamato the professional Scapegoat finder. And Thor was vindicated in this not even a month after, since Yamato did exactly the same thing that he accused incorrectly of what Thor had supposedly done.

[wet storm]

And you and me are just audience

For Thor something like this is 1000 times worse

[indigo wadi]

@jolly sky and NOTHING happened to Yamato. The dude was god damn saved.

[strange ember]

I mean, he, himself, has said multiple times that he made mistakes in that run. He did.
They were understandable mistakes. I was the Mage officer in the primary raid group for the 5th highest ranked guild in the world during vanilla. I've done a bit of Mage playtime. I would have done pretty much what Thor did.

That doesn't mean that there weren't things that could have been done though.

[wet storm]

Yamato did the sort of emotional manipulation that Thor doesn't want to do

[indigo wadi]

Soda: Yamato gonna die
Tyler1: lolno

[strange ember]

This, 100%

[wet storm]

i.e.: profusely apologizing and capitalizing on content

[indigo wadi]

Yamato didn't even do that. He took zero accountability for anything

[jolly sky]

Yamato was the first to look for a Scapegoat in that raid.

[indigo wadi]

also

[wet storm]

I mean obviously

[indigo wadi]

Diremaul is dungeon

not a raid

😛

[wet storm]

Tyler1's rant on DBM is the reason I hate addons lol

[jolly sky]

Yea sorry ya know what I mean lol

[indigo wadi]

i know, it's a nitpick of mine LOL

@wet storm Honestly, I agree. I hate using combat addons.

[wet storm]

Tyler1 died in Molten Core

Is that not what we're talking about?

[strange ember]

Yeah, I was explaining the situation to someone in another discord who plays League. I listed off the 4 other people and they went "Wait... Yamato? As in yamatosdeath? Oh, yeah, this Thor guy's definitely not in the wrong"

[jolly sky]

As someone completely outside of WoW, his rant on that addon makes perfect sense

[indigo wadi]

I'm talking about Diremaul where this started

[wet storm]

Ah ok

[indigo wadi]

I know there's a second event with Yamato

[wet storm]

"Are you even playing the game when all you do is look at a text that says RUN RUN RUN"

Good THANK YOU someone finally said it

[indigo wadi]

I'll fully admit, I use combat addons because of how much stuff is going on and we even have a couple of shot callers

[jolly sky]

And also how that addon likely lead to Tyler1's (and multiple others) deaths

[strange ember]

TL;DW on that?

[wet storm]

I'm still pissed all these years from someone saying "You install DBM" to my "Bro how do I do Professor Putricide's timers"

[indigo wadi]

but knowing I have those means more focus power on my rotation and less thinking about what to step ou tof.

[strange ember]

Oh, there it is XD

[indigo wadi]

it plays the game for the player

which is IRONY CONSIDERING THE ONE BUTTON PLAY THE GAME FOR THE PLAYER THAT BLIZZARD IS PUTTING IN

[wet storm]

Disagree, I think in-game, curated options are best.

[indigo wadi]

no

highlighting ability is fine

1 button smashing to play the game, absolutely not

[wet storm]

That's a different subject, we're talking about having addons impact gameplay

[indigo wadi]

Blizzard literally made 1 button macros impossible, now they're putting them back in

[wet storm]

No whether the addon is actually good

There's already an addon that makes WoW 1 button push

[indigo wadi]

hekili?

[jolly sky]

From my perspective, DBM is the equivalent to playing Dark Souls, and it tells you on the screen when the exact time to parry and dodge is

[wet storm]

Ye

[strange ember]

The problem with that is that WoW has had very poor communication of incoming abilities and effects for decades. It's gotten a lot better, and it's currently being worked on actively with current patches. But when the only way you know where to be is by a timer... things like DBM become mandatory

[indigo wadi]

yeah, Im against Hekili

but

[wet storm]

Pretty much 100% bang on

[indigo wadi]

you still have to actually do the rotation yourself

not spam 1 button every couple seconds

that's what Blizz is adding

[wet storm]

Like for example there's this moment where a boss will throw an area of effect damage over time poo poo zone you gotta move

[indigo wadi]

That's what I don't agree with

[wet storm]

The addon puts a MASSIVE MASSIVE text on your monitor saying RUN

and your character goes like "Poo poo zone on me on 3"

"2"

"1"

[indigo wadi]

Personally, players should learn that from playing, not from DBM

But they won't, because they're lazy

don't wanna do the effort

[wet storm]

Regarding whether the 1 key thing is good or not, I don't care how other people play

[indigo wadi]

MYthic difficulty is another matter altogether though

[wet storm]

If the boss is dead f it we roll

I used to play prot paladin in WotLK

[strange ember]

They're starting to do that in-game now with templates and stuff. It's so nice having the game itself tell you shit's coming instead of (from the player's perspective) just suddenly getting a thing on you

[wet storm]

The amount of times I said "bro why are you mad we're winning" is unreal

[strange ember]

They won't because they can't in many cases. There's a LOT of effects with no tells. Just "after 15 seconds this happens"

[indigo wadi]

There was a time where I didn't use any combat addons

I died far too much LOL

[strange ember]

Yep

[indigo wadi]

Only because addons forced Blizz's hand

[strange ember]

Nah, it was like that from Molten Core

[indigo wadi]

Like TBC, raiding was simple enough you didn't need DBM

[wet storm]

Blizzard did finally add the adventure guide

[strange ember]

It got worse because Blizzard tried to "beat the addons"

[wet storm]

Honestly I feel that 99.99999% of toxicity problems witht WoW are pugging

[indigo wadi]

it's an arms race

and I guess blizzard wins cause now they have the game play for you

[wet storm]

You get a solid guild or a solid cmmunity discord and bang you're rolling

[strange ember]

Yep, and Blizz chose the wrong side. They finally are seeing the light though

[indigo wadi]

I dunno...I'll never agree with 1 button play the game for you mentality. Maybe I take too much pride in learning specs I play 🤷‍♂️

[wet storm]

Respectfully, it feels you take pride in the way other people are playing

[strange ember]

Like they recently did a tune on one of the mythic+ dungeons for this "wind" ability that shoves people off the platforms. They gave it a ground template. Shows which direction the wind'll blow.
That shit? That's what WoW's needed since MC

[wet storm]

As in, it is shameful to play with the 1-key

[strange ember]

Tell the player shit's about to go down damnit

Make it about skill not timers and luck

[indigo wadi]

It's more that I worry about the bad players with inflated egos numbers increasing

which then means even worse pugging

Will this affect me with what I play? Not in the least.

[wet storm]

I think it'll stay the same, controls won't make someone who's toxic more or less toxic

[indigo wadi]

Maybe you're right and I'm worried over nothing

[wet storm]

Lame ass bottom tier DPSs with big egos will just get more complacent and die more too lol

[strange ember]

I play a healer or tank. If the DPS sucks bad enough, I drop group and requeue when my debuff expires XD

[indigo wadi]

Maybe the GCD increase will be enough

who knows

[wet storm]

"The hell you mean blink away I only use one button"

[indigo wadi]

What i do wish

is Blizz would stop putting holes in the middle of a boss room

[wet storm]

Heck how do you even do 1 key on frost mage, half your kit is on cooldowns

[indigo wadi]

like blizz...stop forcing me to die because I hovered forward

I had enough of that nonsense on my DH, I don't need a repeat of it on my Evoker

[wet storm]

DUDE FACTSSS

[strange ember]

People with no situational awareness will always have no situational awareness... it's one of the things I liked about the Proving Grounds requirement for heroics

[wet storm]

Also please stop putting procs on like a 2 second window

[strange ember]

It was one of the only thing I liked about the proving grounds, mind

[indigo wadi]

I have situational awareness, I also have fat fingeredness

[wet storm]

I play on 150ms, I don't want to miss my procs cos of lag

[indigo wadi]

skill issue

[wet storm]

Intuition is driving me nuts

[strange ember]

That thing was so badly tuned for many specs

[wet storm]

Toxic 1-key user take xD

[indigo wadi]

You wanna know what was badly tuned?

[wet storm]

(joke)

[indigo wadi]

ZEKVIR??

"oh you only have 1 snare removal? HAHAHHAAHAHA EFF YOU"

80 something pulls later

[strange ember]

Uh, which expansion was that from?

[indigo wadi]

literally last season 😛

[wet storm]

It's the boss of a delve

[strange ember]

Ah. I haven't renewed my sub. I've missed TWW

[wet storm]

TWW is a banger I'm having loads of fun

[strange ember]

Yeah, it looks awesome

[indigo wadi]

I'm |...| close to being done with WoW

[strange ember]

Discretionary income is nonexistent for me, so no WoW 😦

Real Life sucks sometimes

[indigo wadi]

I was all on board for the start of this season, then as week 4 and 5 came...I stopped caring

like...why am I doing this?

[wet storm]

I was in that situation, always remember that it's temporary

[indigo wadi]

Yes, Life is temporary 😉

THIS IS A JOKE

[strange ember]

That it is

Hey, it's funny cuz it's true

[wet storm]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-nasty-disgusted-gross-spongebob-squarepants-gif-16884688

[indigo wadi]

a dark joke

but a joke

[strange ember]

Life's the only 100% terminal condition

[indigo wadi]

the air is slowly killing you

ironicly, not breathing kills you faster

switching topics

[strange ember]

But see the wonderful thing about my spiritual path is that I think there's a purpose for this temporary existence

[indigo wadi]

I'm currently stuck in a trying to finish farcry 5 so i cna get back to expedition 33

[indigo wadi]

I'm of 2 minds.

1: Reincarnation is a thing
2: This is a simulation

[wet storm]

We are USB sticks

[strange ember]

Plus, life would suck if everyone was around forever. How would you like to be living with billions of dinos and meters thick plant mats and shit

[wet storm]

get reformatted and rebooted

[indigo wadi]

I'd like it just fine

Would I eventually grow bored? Yes

But it'd be cool to be around for all of the earths events.

Maybe disprove some mindsets 😉

[strange ember]

Those mindsets would just find something else to make up stuff about

[wet storm]

Spending eternal life trying to change people's minds sounds maddening on a Warhammer 40k unusually cruel curse sort of way

[distant rapids]

I would call that "Curse of the Twitter"

[strange ember]

I'm so glad I don't use Twitter

[indigo wadi]

What influence would Twitter fall under in 40k?

[wet storm]

The platform or the content?

[indigo wadi]

yes

[wet storm]

Bastid

The platform would be destroyed as a free speech platform

[strange ember]

I'm sad that Thor got the crazies from the other side of the aisle on BlueSky. Though personally I prefer Mastodon. The Fediverse is cool

[indigo wadi]

I'm against all SM platforms

[wet storm]

The content wound't be that different if you replace famous figures with imperium personalities

i.e.: inflated fame

[strange ember]

SM platforms? I don't know what that means

[indigo wadi]

social media

[strange ember]

I mean you're on one 🙂

[indigo wadi]

I make discord my 1 exception

I can selectively join which servers

and make an effort to join sane ones

can't say that about twitter

[strange ember]

Personally I don't like the algorithmic engagement farming spaces. Anywhere on the internet.
An unfortunate bias in the human psyche is that anger is one of the most effective ways to get someone to engage and then share something. It's real easy to piss people off too if you don't need to worry about pissing any particular person off

[strange ember]

This is the case with the Fediverse too. You can curate

That's why I like Mastodon/Lemmy

And Reddit actually

[indigo wadi]

Isn't mastodon like a safe space for right wingers?

[strange ember]

God no

[indigo wadi]

what is it then?

[strange ember]

That's uh... Parler and Truth Social and now Twitter/X

and Rumble?

I dunno, they made like 300 of the damned things when Twitter was still actually moderated

[strange ember]

Uh... the Fediverse is... semi-decentrallized content platform with interconnected "servers" that are formed sorta like how subreddits are, that any other "instance" can decide to allow or block

Anyone can follow anyone regardless of being on the same server or someone else's, any person, group, or company can run their own mastodon server for themselves or for the public. Mastodon has no algorithm and does NOT show you any content you don't sign up for.

[indigo wadi]

I think Im okay with discord being the main one I interact with

[strange ember]

[indigo wadi]

"you're gonna have hyper intelligent worms" LOL

[strange ember]

Heh, that was good. Egg Salad just... gives me the heebie jeebies

[hot elk]

How did the chat with Dr K end up? I left right as he was wrapping it up

[strange ember]

Pretty good. I think Thor's still confused, but he's been pointed towards areas he can look towards

Mentalization
"The Missing Missing Reasons" on issendai <dot> com
Basically the wrapup for the whole conversation... oh and an amusing bit about sunburning bungholes

Note: He said that he doesn't think Thor fits the main target for either the Mentalization (BPD) or the "Missing Missing Reasons" (denialism/avoidance)

He just thinks the tools could be helpful places to explore

[undone dragon]

mostly boiled down to intent vs perception and communication styles and why the reaction has been the reaction. And yeah the wrap up was a hilarious "normalization" (I don't know the actual term but like... getting everyone's head out of the deep thoughts/emotionally raw places and back on even keel)

[strange ember]

And the "reason the reaction has been the reaction" was basically: you've got a different communication style, which other people see as arrogant/avoidant/narcissistic. Emotion good. Overexplaining probably not good.

At least that's what I got out

[flat moat]

That's practically it in a nutshell

With time, the habits hampering communication can be dealt with

When Dr K mentioned how he words things, instantly saw Thor trying to be better. That's great

[opal bronze]

in my very professional unprofessional opinion thor should get repeat sessions offline just to build this toolset since he himself said he's struggled with it his entire life and now its starting to affect his job, at least that's what i would consider but up to him for sure

iirc dr k said he would have a think on practical applications to close the communication gap so i hope that means further stuff in the future

[strange ember]

I think his chat managed to get him to work on a video on mentalization for the neurospicy

[opal bronze]

was that after the dr k interview i only watched from dr k perspective

[strange ember]

Yes, it was after, on his channel

[opal bronze]

ill take a look thanks

[strange ember]

Neurospicy: because I'm tired of trying to remember how to spell "divergent" right now XD

[opal bronze]

lol

[strange ember]

TBF, everyone should have therapy

[opal bronze]

at some point in their lives yeah

i had an idea in my head to talk to a therapist just about ideas and concepts that interested me like internal validation and stuff like that

[strange ember]

multiple, IMO. Mental health doesn't have the same kind of warning signs and symptoms as physical health

[opal bronze]

just watched after ended interview i didnt see it

[strange ember]

Gah. Keep forgetting about my language in here

And like it doesn't have to be a licensed psychiatrist. Just having a person you talk to about life regularly, and that's the purpose of the relationship is huge

[opal bronze]

do you mean like dr k doing a mini qna after cuz i saw some of that

[strange ember]

They got him to consider working on a video, not "he talked about it in depth"

[opal bronze]

true but downside is its expensive

[opal bronze]

all he did was raid i think i just saw it

they you mean chat or they like dr k

[strange ember]

First one is, second one's free.

[strange ember]

they chat

[opal bronze]

do you have a clip cuz i cant find it post interview

on thors side

[strange ember]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2448436143?t=03h41m32s

[strange ember]

I did say it was on Dr K's channel

Also, he mislabelled the stream. that's funny

[opal bronze]

ah my mistake i misunderstood

[strange ember]

Fair. I wasn't explicit

[opal bronze]

thats good that he's adding that type of video to the list/lecture at some point

[winter sierra]

i agree i think it would help a lot wording is one of the most important things for online convos

i struggle with it a bit, and mostly resort to being as nice as possible because im afraid that i will sound rude or mad

i think its especially helpful to not sound mad, because people love to use that against you

[undone dragon]

i love neurospicy as a term

[winter sierra]

Eh i associate it with annoying videos but its ok standalone

[dusky grove]

oh, blue prince observation that may or may not be helpful ||the order you pull the statues in the tomb, the one that unlocks the lower floor not the one that shows the book drafts, is that also in a spiral like the... everything...||

[azure glen]

Another golden Kappa train on Thor's stream. Get your swagger!!

[late vortex]

lets get this Golden kappa to lvl 20 this time 😄

[strange ember]

They'll also hate you for being too calm.

[ocean agate]

https://www.twitch.tv/piratesoftware/clip/VastResoluteMomWow-SyAzWDbouGud0Qol

[mild moon]

watching the most recent blue prince stream and noticed something in ||the Alzara Prophecies||
In the one speaking about ||the family line all sitting in the same chair, the Same Chair is the lie, because one of them was a Queen who sat on a throne.||

[carmine stump]

Why is it when we say something that was said in an interview from the previous day's stream in today's chat we get timed out?

[strange ember]

Probably because you said something that was being spammed. Thor's got a bit of a troll infestation because of some WoW drama 4 months ago that won't die

[summer night]

what did you say?

[carmine stump]

Yeah, I'd watched the Dr K 3hr interview/therapy from yesterday and said one of the things Dr K said so I thought it'd be funny

Morse code item....

[rapid elm]

uhmmmm

what exactly is the difference between yml and xml?

i kinda see it

but i dont at the same time cuz i only see part of the format changes

i think you might

[jolly sky]

Well because talking about butt plugs is not something that is wanted to be seen or mentioned in chat.

It was something that was brought up in an uncontrolled way, and just because it was said, doesn't mean it bears repeating

[carmine stump]

I learned that Twitch exists August last year. I keep trying to do something other than emote reactions. I figure if they got a laugh for someone else, it'd get a laugh for me. Apparently I'm terrible at figuring out when that is true.

[jolly sky]

Fair and understandable. There's a certain level of "reading the room" when it comes to Twitch Chats. I will say that Thors chat is more...strict? Structured? Than a lot of other chats

[carmine stump]

For the most part I like that. It makes it feel more...safe? But it also feels more...knee-jerk reaction when something makes him laugh one day, and gets timed out next day. I guess....consistency feels like it's somewhat lacking. Maybe it's more host vs audience and what's expected, and I don't....get....what my role is very well, yet.

[jolly sky]

This may help. Thors stream (and here in this Discord) is aimed at a variety of ages, as there's a lot educational content that he wants younger people to learn, which means that "adult" conversations/words aren't typically allowed

[undone hatch]

Seeing the direction and wild accusations that came along towards Thor after the WoW drama was crazy. To me it honestly felt like half the internet went "Oh look at this guy, being all good and perfect, we're gonna bring him down!". That feels symptomatic for the internet these days. People are built up on this crazy pedestal just so they can be torn down and people can revel in their downfall

[golden mirage]

Your role in chat is whatever you want to be except be a mod. Act like a semi decent, halfway civilized human being and you'll be fine.

[hollow yacht]

Thors is on one end of the spectrum and dougdougs is on the other

If I want unbridled chaos that’s where I end up. Anything close to sanity is here

[serene valley]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-senshi-give-senshi-his-bread-dunmeshi-dungeon-meshi-gif-13784749192472379832

mods

[carmine stump]

That makes sense..... I also recall him saying he really likes George Carlin, and we don't use soft language here.... I guess it's part of reading the room thing. I don't see too clearly where the line is at times. It seems...squiggly. I guess I'll err on the cautious side

[serene valley]

thor finding out about dungeon meshi and immediately loving it

[wooden rose]

I'm mostly offline, so I just caught up with pirate and the wow stuff, surprised the hate is still going.
Where is the most respectful place to write a message of support?

[strange ember]

I will warn you. Content intended to get a reaction will often create a reaction you don't intend.
Just be yourself, engage like a person. If you don't have anything to add, don't. Silence isn't some evil that needs to be stamped out 🙂

[jolly sky]

Well think of it like this. He says he likes George Carlin, and George Carlin swears a lot. But if you type out a George Carlin joke 1-to-1, you'll probably get timed out because of the amount of swearing, both in twitch chat and Discord.

[golden mirage]

He reads this channel sometimes, you can also put it in the stream chats. If you want it more likely to be seen then you can do a TTS.

[carmine stump]

Yeah... I got timed out when he asked for a potion name, and mentioned the song playing was modeled on Seinfeld tune. I figured a guy who makes soup would be part of a good potion name, and show I'd paid attention lol can't say that word in chat

[golden mirage]

OSHA can't stop what they don't know about.

[carmine stump]

After 16m of retyping this, I'll leave it at you're probably correct lol I probably can't human well enough , enough of the time, to type in Twitch chat lol at least I can still watch haha

[strange ember]

Nah, you can human fine. You're fine in here. Personally I'd just not go into the chat with the idea that you need to get a reaction... that's performative. Why? You're a person, you're unique, that makes you valuable. Be your authentic self. Don't fill the silence with noise simply to fill the silence. Laugh when it's funny, chime in when you agree, respectfully disagree when that happens.

Treat Twitch chat like a conversation, not like a stage, IMO. Sure it's a conversation with a never-ending cast of characters, but you're still talking to other people about things. The more we try to be inauthentic because we "need to perform" the worse communication gets, IMO.

I can go 3 hours in chat and not say a thing because I have nothing to add. That's fine

Sometimes people say things and I think I can help with the situation, and I participate.
And sometimes Dr K talks about sunburned rectums and I laugh so hard I bruise my abs

[kindred holly]

I'm still stunned that Tiktok trend happened

[carmine stump]

I like your words, fellow human 😊 I think they needed a higher spf lmao

[strange ember]

Hello fellow human. I too have skin and require protective ointments to prevent radiation burns on my skin, that I have.

[carmine stump]

I think it's difficult to be surprised by the trends nowadays, but, there's lots of room for disappointment

[strange ember]

(Seriously though I have to sunblock my head, I'm bald. Sunburn on your scalp is TORTURE. You can't talk or eat without the skin on your entire head moving)

[carmine stump]

Owwwwy, that sounds awful. Hopefully its been a long time since thats happened , ? If you haven't tried clear gel or lotion type sunscreen from Japan or South Korea, you're missing out. Lovely to not have the mime look lol

[serene valley]

oh gosh

we're doing this again

[carmine stump]

I thought it was blockgame only today ? Waiting on community feedback for blue prince ??

[jolly sky]

Someone said something on stream that got Thors' mind whirring

[carmine stump]

Oh nos 🤓🧐😄

[woeful geyser]

what did they say, i was grabbing a drink

[serene valley]

||"solarium last upgrade gives a prism key"||

is what someone said

[tribal nest]

The one thing I do find annoying about the Blue Prince streams, is that I missed a part of the stream because I had work in the morning, and when I finally watched, suddenly everything was blue and Thor has fully sunk into insanity

[serene valley]

I looked away for 5 minutes and the same thing happened

[jolly sky]

A solution to a puzzle

[woeful geyser]

....||that room can't be upgraded though?||

[tribal nest]

Like I'm so incredibly lost on the plot RN (it also isn't helped by the fact that I only started watching the streams after he had already reached room 46 for the first time)

[serene valley]

||every time you use the telescope in it gets an upgrade||

[stoic zealot]

https://fixupx.com/Dexerto/status/1918408711162499328?t=P3pD_opO_GUndjkyx4d16Q&s=19

God I just woke up, what happened on stream

Dexerto (@Dexerto)

Psychiatrist Dr. K called out Pirate Software on stream, claiming he's "arrogant" and "dismissive" toward others

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[woeful geyser]

oh, ||planetarium, not solarium||

[jolly sky]

Dude do yourself a favour and please

Stop

looking

at

twitter

You know that people take things out of context all the time

and this is one of them

no one is a reliable narrator on twitter

[stoic zealot]

Then I would like to have the context

[jolly sky]

Then watch the 3 hour vod

[stoic zealot]

ADHD brain is not going to allow me to do that

[carmine stump]

Yeah even at 2x speed it takes 1.5hrs to watch that whole thing, they talked A LOT

I dont mean that like a bad thing, I thought it was well said

[tribal nest]

This isn't even out of context anymore, this is just straight up removing parts of a sentence

[jolly sky]

Unfortunately there really isn't a way to summarise. It requires knowing the whole conversation to pick up on what lead to that clip

[carmine stump]

How do you grey out text here?

[stoic zealot]

Then I'll make a reply on Twitter for Thor too have a community noted for it taking it out of context

[serene valley]

do you mean ||this|| ?

[jolly sky]

or just, don't. Leave it all alone

It's really not helpful

[serene valley]

||text||

[carmine stump]

Yeah, that. I tried typing first and finding an option after , but I'm not seeing it ??

[serene valley]

you do this

or /spoiler text

[tribal nest]

To try to summarise it as short as possible, it basically comes down to that while Thor means to say something to give context, it often comes across as if he is arrogant

[carmine stump]

Typing a test message and hiding the /spoiler text stuff you dont want to instantly appear

[jolly sky]

Stop looking for things to get mad at. Stop engaging with it. You @'ing Thor with that is just going to give more eyes on it.

[carmine stump]

D'oh! 😅

[jolly sky]

It just really isn't worth it. Let Thor handle whatever he wants to handle

[stoic zealot]

I am not mad, Just confused

[jolly sky]

Because Twitter in general is designed to do that. Make people confused, and then get mad because confused people will argue at each other

[tribal nest]

Dr. K has repeatedly stated Thor definitely isn't a narcissist (which Thor indeed 100% isn't, because a narcissist will happily admit they are), but he has said that some of the things Thor has said are very similar to things a narcissist would say (which, by the way, is something everyone does, and him doing that doesn't make him a narcissist in the same way that getting distracted doesn't mean you have ADHD)

[serene valley]

also dr. K said "that's the most arrogant statement", not saying thor is arrogant but what he says comes across that way, important nuance

[jolly sky]

And even that is a MASS simplification. The whole thing needs to be watched to understand what Dr.K is saying and why

[serene valley]

but hey nuance is dead on the internet

[tribal nest]

Yes, but is it does make it clear that it's taken wildly out of context

[carmine stump]

Test message number two ||for grey text surprise|| 🤞did it work 🫣

[jolly sky]

Which is one of many reasons why quickly accessible social media, designed to draw the eye with as little actual understanding or nuance intended is absolutely garbage for the mind

It's the worst kind of fast food for the brain

[tribal nest]

I just read the comments to that twitter post (I know already a bad choice), but I'm actually surprised, a lot of people are actually defending Thor. They are doing it in absolutely the worst way possible though, by discrediting Dr. K and saying he's an awful psychologist and such BS, so Twitter is still a cesspool, but not in the way I expected

[jolly sky]

Twitter and all its iterations need to honestly disappear. Like straight up wiped off the face of the planet

Twitter, Bluesky, etc. Destroy it all

[carmine stump]

I find there are some funny memes on Bluesky, and more animal pictures than you could shake a stick at 🐈 🐕 😃

[serene valley]

on bluesky at least you get tools to moderate your experience

[carmine stump]

I really like being able to mute words on there

[azure glen]

The internet happened 🤷

[jolly sky]

All the funny memes, animal pictures, or moderation tools in the world isn't worth the amount of damage its doing

Due to how easy it is for accounts like the above mentioned to do things like that

The bad far far outweighs the good

[carmine stump]

Where is the line then? How much do we deny people access to things for the sake of preserving their mental, social, physical, emotional, financial etc wellbeing?

[jolly sky]

Websites like Twitter are doing more mental, social and emotional harm than good

And there are far better alternatives for each of those things that doesn't come from a website

[carmine stump]

Twitter? Yeah. I'm banned from there, actually. Made a post about not liking big game hunting of endangered animals. Didn't sit well with peeps. They said delete or life ban. Ban is fine with me. Nothing of value was lost. Mainly used it for that one comedy show way back when, at midnight or something

[carmine stump]

What is your opinion on a better alternative to Bluesky, that allows people to easily block either people or words they don't wish to interact with? It's the newest, current, account i have...

[jolly sky]

There isn't one IMO. Get rid of them entirely

Going back to older style forums. Get rid of these diarrhoea-laden Twitter-likes

[undone hatch]

I miss forums

[carmine stump]

Forums were amazing, back in 2000-2006 or so.... it did require a different style of communication though, and keeping track of conversations. Not everyone wants that type of interaction these days. None of these platforms can possibly be perfect. They're made by, used by, and judged by people. It's like art. We can all say different things about what we see, imo.

[jolly sky]

" it did require a different style of communication though, and keeping track of conversations. Not everyone wants that type of interaction these days"

Well thats too bad for them. You don't get to be a part of the conversation, if you can't keep a track of it.

And if you're not willing to engage with that, then you don't get to be a part of it.

The required longer form of conversation on forums made it so that you had to actually bring something to conversation rather than rage out and type nonsense

And it kept the unhinged parts to their local forums, not just being able to make an account on Twatter/etc, post some completely incorrect video/statement and then have the people that agree go and harass the person they're talking about

It was all secluded away

[undone dragon]

Web 2.0 broke a lot of containment which means a lot of smaller pockets of communities that could have operated perfectly well in their own bubbles... got thrust on the same platforms sharing space with communities they viscerally disagree with/hate

and brought a lot of friction

people also got unused to moderated spaces (like Discord)

and rage farming is lucrative

[carmine stump]

I agree with most of that. I think people can also make short thoughtful replies, and, just because their thoughts are on a platform you don't enjoy, doesn't mean it's all rage. I've been using the internet, through all it's iterations, since 1995. Was obviously simpler back then. Its.... not great right now, but it's something. I don't mean to say we shouldn't try and make it better.

[jolly sky]

I think making it better, is by getting rid of short form social media

[strange ember]

Also other problem. This isn't just Twitter, it's Dexerto. They have a history of doing the misinformation

[jolly sky]

Or at least, not have some way of validating people for it

Like, Upvotes/Likes etc

Get rid of that stuff

[jolly sky]

And that's just one example of MANY accounts that purposefully post misinformation

It's just so much absolute garbage

[carmine stump]

Never even heard of Dexerto. Sounds like I'm not missing much lol

[carmine stump]

There are ways of hiding that, sometimes. I guess it's good for, say, business to know what is getting their customer base excited

[jolly sky]

And thats the other thing. Get them off too

Make a Business only "twitter"

[strange ember]

Unfortunately, not going to happen. What needs to happen is decoupling the recommendation algorithms from pure engagement, and improving the mental/emotional hygiene of the people on the internet. But one's less money and the other's hard

[strange ember]

nobody would use it, the businesses would stop posting, it'd vanish

[strange ember]

Also that's actually false. There were and still are plenty of people that just post single word messages on forums 🙂

[jolly sky]

I feel they would if no other social media platforms allowed them to have accounts. Allow only advertising on them that links to the "Business Twitter". They'd have no other option.

[jolly sky]

True, that was a rule that changed from forum to forum.

But there was still overall less pure garbage that was accessible to everyone. If you wanted to see or make posts, you had to make an account on that forum

[strange ember]

If no consumer is using the site, then there's no point to a business to advertising on it. They'd just use astroturfing or normal advertising instead

[undone dragon]

it's also.. easier to curate not opening a thread on a forum vs a wall of everything all at once on SM or a rolling conversation like Discord

[strange ember]

That's one reason I like Fediverse over BS/S**tter

[jolly sky]

Then so be it

[jolly sky]

Yea. The format of social media is just, SO bad.

[strange ember]

"Perfect is the enemy of good"

[undone dragon]

my bluesky has been pleasant but I pick my follows/block often/have many muted lists and words

[strange ember]

Also it seems like you're romanticizing the past. I don't remember it being as much better as what you're presenting is implying to me

[undone dragon]

Tumblr is the unhinged sweetpot in a lot of ways. Unless you're crazy enough to seek the Discoery tab, you only get content from people you follow and then can grow that list by following people they repost. Still web 2.0 and there's some frictions but not fully closed as private Discords.

Also still encourages long form posting vs snappy conversational tone

oh the dramma of old sucked majorly, don't get me wrong

I'm just... hindsight being 20/20 some of the things that got left behind perhaps had a purpose that we didn't quite appreciate the same way

[jolly sky]

I feel it was simply a time where less garbage was less accessible, and there was vastly less bandwagoning as it wasn't really possible en mass

[strange ember]

I think it's more likely that you're noticing it more now than you did before.
There's definitely an echo-chamber/megaphone effect from platform consolidation and algorithmic engagement farming, but people haven't meaningfully changed in hundreds of years... one sec

Time is a flat circle XD

[opal bronze]

personally its the way the algorithms are designed

they are made for engagement and therefore money generation

which is why ragebaiting gets pushed in the first place

you could probably remake it so it doesnt encourage those kinds of interactions but any form of online social gathering you'll run into friction

i have no idea how it would be executed safely because its a technical nightmare but i think they should shut social media off one day a week so people can actually go do something else

[strange ember]

I mean re-tooling the algorithms to focus on healthy engagement would probably do that anyway

it's just not easy, and you'll get a lot of pushback from anywhere because $$$

[carmine stump]

I think that'd be difficult. As many people as there are, there'd be that many opinions on when and why it should/shouldn't be turned off temporarily/forever

[opal bronze]

for sure and its not unfounded either

imagine the government could turn it off whenever i wouldnt trust that

but man would it improve mental health

[carmine stump]

Can't they? With some of them ??

[opal bronze]

not easily unless they had a system in place like im describing

they could storm into ISP places and shut it down there for everybody but it would take effort and resources and people would notice and post about it before it did go offline

my idea would be way more instant and nationwide so alot more dangerous

hell they might have set up the system already and its just not public knowledge

but id really be guessing then

[undone dragon]

"nationwide" is... subjective and likely a drop in the ocean 😉

[opal bronze]

true country sizes are different

im not picturing USA but europe countries more like

[strange ember]

I should not have checked what was happening on LSF... sigh

[carmine stump]

Quick fixes have a way of going sideways lol

[strange ember]

Oh they absolutely could. They'd just delist it from the DNS. That would effectively delete it from the internet for basically anyone that's not a sysadmin

[jolly sky]

Remove that place from your memory. Don't get curious about hearing other people mentioning it, it's never worth it

[strange ember]

That's not healthy either, IMO. Ignoring reality doesn't make it go away

[carmine stump]

Geez, they totally took things poorly. I doubt they watched the whole three hour talk.

[carmine stump]

Wouldn't listening to an absolutist statement be outsourcing my critical thinking 🤔

[strange ember]

Considering that I'm pretty sure the clip they're using was one of the ones Dr K said "don't clip this out of context" on, and at the end he said "please include this clip if you're clipping from this stream"... I'ma go with "probably not" or it could also reasonably be malice

This (LSF) is a drama sub after all

[carmine stump]

I think that's the majority of what we see these days, loud drama. It's almost like carefully considering things, and attempting to learn and improve is criminal

This is too perfect

[indigo wadi]

But you can choose to ignore unhealthy places

LSFs only purpose is to drama stir. Literally nothing good comes from it.

[strange ember]

I do most of the time. But I got curious. Curiosity is a vulnerability. Sometimes it pays off, sometimes not. Lost the gamba. Oh well

[strange ember]

I kinda was hoping for hilarious stupid not mean stupid

[indigo wadi]

When the curiosity hits you, ask yourself "is this worth it? Will anything good come of it?"

[jolly sky]

It's what LSF has become to be known for. A hate-filled drama sub

[indigo wadi]

You won't get hilarious stupid from LSF. That's not what it does anymore.

If keemstar was a website

[strange ember]

Yeah I noticed

[strange ember]

The thing that makes me sad is how subjectivity, the potential for corruption, and the difficulty of clear definitions make it impossible to systemically address problems like this without causing way too much collateral damage. It’s frustrating when the only "solutions" are either ignoring the toxicity or nuking everything—neither feels right.

[jaunty pagoda]

I personally respect Dr. k and believe he had the best of intentions. I just think that being a bit more mindful of Thors situation with the words he chose to use in the context of speaking with him. Could have had a better impact on public prospective perception and let his authenticity shine. Its already hard to try and understand anything from someone elses perspective without words that create strong emotions taking over and being used in a way that undermines the situation. Drawing the humanity of a person instead of letting these words clutter the narrative(emotionally) was to me not what I had hoped for.

[strange ember]

Dr K did really good. This really should have been private though. Just because Thor's Persistent Hate Mob

[jolly sky]

Thor was fully aware of what would likely happen and chose to do it. He was also aware of what Dr.K does and how his streams go.

[jaunty pagoda]

Yeah, It's gotta be extremely overwhelming at times. 😔

[jolly sky]

This isn't a "Dr.K did anything bad" thing, this is a "The Internet is going to Internet regardless" thing unfortunately

[carmine stump]

I think considering the length of time this has gone on Thor has handled it better than anyone I know, and better than I myself would have handled it. He's shown understanding and concern for all involved, and tried to educate people too

[strange ember]

Yeah, def not blaming Dr K

This was wonderful, I found it helpful

I just think that giving the hatemob more ammo was more negative than the positive of helping the neurospicy learn about overexplaining

[jolly sky]

And in terms of the actual content of the conversation, this was a light one for a Dr.K Stream. The only thing that caused problems was, unfortunately the hate mob existing

[jaunty pagoda]

No blame.. It's just an observation of the amount of mindfulness used in the choice of words chosen. Some words are more devisive than others. That is all 😅

[strange ember]

That's fair, though I do think that Thor needed that bluntness. I know I did

[jaunty pagoda]

Yeah for sure that could of been a factor as well

Better days to come!!

[strange ember]

I hope that karma is swift for the hate mob

[indigo wadi]

So I started being able to parry in expedition 33

[carmine stump]

I wish I believed in karma, but then I look at the world.... maybe if we all believe in karma, it'll spring into being ?

[strange ember]

Karma isn't swift, it's a debt that must be paid in the fullness of the cycles

[indigo wadi]

Is karma an actual thing though?

[jaunty pagoda]

I believe it's from our subconscious we're not inherently bad as humans.. as much as people may think.. that's why when people are nasty to each other... it's just a reflection of themselves. Or at least how I like to believe it.

[carmine stump]

Seems to be a belief, like ....other things.... which are probably part of the can't discuss it topics list. It feels real to some, false to others, and 50/50 to still others, imo.

[strange ember]

may be, may not be. I choose to believe it's a thing because order and balance in the universe makes me happier

[carmine stump]

If you want extra order and balance, I invented, I think, the I've Done It List, instead of the to-do list. Write down what you've done, after you've done it. Wowzers! You've done a lot, congrats! 100% completion 🥳

[wanton stump]

Did it give them more ammo?

[strange ember]

Couple more bullets and a decent shot of fresh air

[wanton stump]

How do you look at a guy doing some self reflection and learning some new things about how he interacts with people as more reason to hate him?

Doesnt make any sense to me

Like isnt this what they wanted?

[strange ember]

Because they're not looking at him as a person as much as an object to hate

[wanton stump]

Guess I just have too much stuff going on in my life to understand that

Sounds exhausting, being hateful like that

Way too much work

[strange ember]

Anger is a motivator. But yeah, it's not healthy to hold on to.
But it's also "contagious" it's really easy to get angry because of something someone else did/said.

Human brains aren't equipped to handle a social group that's more than a hundred or two hundred people... so we're really good at kinda reducing people into concepts/ideas. It's a lot easier to deal with a simple concept than a real person... and it's also easy to demote someone into another category

[brisk sparrow]

The brain is bad at big things in general tbh

[kindred holly]

I really liked the stream, but I kinda wish it was privately done. It felt intrusive to watch and it gave more ammo to the mob.

[indigo wadi]

You'll justify anything to continue hating. Hating is naturally illogical

[indigo wadi]

What good does that do? There is more good to show with what Dr K showed than keeping it hidden.

The mob is always going to look for ammo. That shouldn't stop him from doing what he wants.

[jolly sky]

Thor was fully aware of what would likely happen and chose to do it regardless. He was also aware of what Dr.K does and how his streams go. And this was very tame compared to how a lot of other Dr.K streams go

[opal bronze]

how do other dr k streams go

[kindred holly]

Is his chat typically that toxic?

[indigo wadi]

Whose?

[kindred holly]

Dr. K's streams

[indigo wadi]

Not sure.

[strange ember]

Judging by some of the comments, no

There were quite a few people wondering why the chat was so negative "today"

[flat moat]

Lots of lashing out by some of the patients because they don't agree and feel treatment and hard truths were insulting

Dexerto and LSF have been purporting it on Twitter as if Dr K and Thor had a fight/disagreement/insult match when that was not the case

[opal bronze]

weird ive never seen that much

[terse pelican]

Twisting facts to fit a certain narrative to ''Hate'' on Thor. It's the Normal stuff

[opal bronze]

then again im not an avid follower of dr k

[serene valley]

probably partly the people that have already gotten banned from thor's channel, seeing a chacne to then hate further on dr. Ks stream

[flat moat]

Pretty much

[indigo wadi]

Can't wait for dextero to go byebye

[flat moat]

It's usually pretty good now though. Dr K's got experience to reduce potential tension points by wording things better and showed it during the stream yesterday

[terse pelican]

Why would it go bye bye? Just curious

[opal bronze]

yea a couple of times i was worried thor was just gonna shut it down

[flat moat]

Same here. The amount of misreporting is ridiculous

[opal bronze]

even after thor pushed back on something and dr k apologised he said "no its ok dont apologise" thats very respectable

[indigo wadi]

Cause doing disingenuous reporting will eventually lead to lack of credibility which will lead to lack of financials

[flat moat]

He could've but he knows Dr K is trying to help. Thor's kinda like most IT guys: We are told there's a problem. Show us it and help us solve it because this is unknown territory

[indigo wadi]

Was it polygon that recently went out of business?

[terse pelican]

I mean... A lot of Media is 'selective' and misrepresentative reporting to fit a certain narrative

Plenty still around

[opal bronze]

couple of times thor laughed off what dr k was saying initially but after dr k kept repeating it thor started to lock in a bit more

[flat moat]

Just needs more sessions tbh.

[indigo wadi]

And plenty of them should be out of business for misreporting

[flat moat]

It needs to sink in

[opal bronze]

agreed more private sessions to help close the lack of understanding, once it clicks it will click

and he'll fix it

[terse pelican]

I do agree they should go out of buissness for missrepresenting facts, but they're within their rights to report things based on opinions, regardless of how wrong and dumb it is

[flat moat]

It will definitely take some time. It's not easy moving over from Corpo "the facts of the matter" speak to "I feel, I think, I believe"

[indigo wadi]

That would require Dr K to take Thor on as a patient which then means no more co-Streaming

[opal bronze]

doesnt have to be dr k but hopefully someone recommended by dr k

[flat moat]

To be fair, the help will far outweigh the benefits from co-streaming

[terse pelican]

I would argue that it would be someone that's completely disconnected from the situation. That hasn't seen the drama.

[opal bronze]

otherwise im not sure if you just went out and got a regular therapist that they'd understand the situation as well as dr k does being online centric and all

[flat moat]

Like hunter says, doesn't have to be Dr K but certainly an option

[opal bronze]

no more information is always good, dr k looked into it briefly just to see where its coming from

[indigo wadi]

Sure but also requires Thor to want that kind of private therapy

[strange ember]

Nah, those were the "I asked an innocent question" and "he auto-banned me" and "he's cross-banning people"

[opal bronze]

yes absolutely its his choice

therapy doesn't work if you dont want to be helped thats number one

[flat moat]

Yep, and luckily the stream yesterday showed that he'll be seeking help

Dr K may have reached out but it's an eye opener

[opal bronze]

did he say he would be persuing it i havent checked

[indigo wadi]

He hasn't said

[strange ember]

But he also doesn't really talk about his private life

Which is totally fair. Keep 'em seperate

[indigo wadi]

He talks a fair bit about what he does during his off time

[terse pelican]

Yeah, It's important to have a clear line between his Private and Public life

[serene valley]

ye but hobby vs health is something different

[opal bronze]

anything past related he's open book about but current stuff like current relationships are off table understandably

[flat moat]

My bad, might be misinterpreting things but I do feel that he will seek help. He can say that people don't understand him because of his speech patterns being more objective than subjective but I'm sure he wants to close that gap at some point

[opal bronze]

i mean now he has a root cause i think he will pursue it cuz thats just how he is

[indigo wadi]

Even if he has all the tools, people are still gonna hate

[flat moat]

It's the internet

[opal bronze]

its the level of hating

all public figures have haters

if he can do stuff better to reduce that down to normal numbers then its fine

[flat moat]

As an example:

I love pancakes

Why do you hate waffles?

That's an entirely different sentence

This practically describes the internet

Hatred doesn't need to have a logical reason unfortunately

[eternal cove]

Seems strongly exaggerated.

[indigo wadi]

It's not though

[terse pelican]

It's sadly reality

[flat moat]

It is an exaggerated reaction but the underlying message is still the same

[strange ember]

I’ll have to disagree here. The fifth estate serves a vital societal role, and with the rights and protections afforded to the press come responsibilities. If a media outlet routinely betrays that public trust—especially by distorting events and omitting key context to push a false narrative—they shouldn't just be criticized, they should lose their platform. There's a clear difference between editorial framing or selective coverage and outright misrepresentation. The latter isn't just bad journalism—it's corrosive to public discourse and should be treated as such.
They're not within their rights to me. Not if they advertise themselves with "Visit Dexerto for award-winning entertainment news"

[flat moat]

just to add on: Whatever is perceived as the smallest slight a la narcissism ("why did you lose weight to make me look bad at x's wedding?") is enough to kickstart a hatred that people will forget the exact reason for down the line

[strange ember]

Not really. I've seen that play out almost exactly.
"I like puppies", "Why do you hate cats?!".
"I like raiding", "Why do you hate PvP?!"
"I enjoy Minecraft", "Why do you hate Fortnite?!"

[eternal cove]

Agree, but I think it's not doing any good to you. The world is vast and limiting one self to the negative things of the internet that you preceive is a bad path to take. I can understand that people are mad with the situation that lead to this conversation. However, there are much more things that we can't comprehend.

I won't miss any of the content out here that's happening and that's a good thing from the Internet, same is this discord. I learn so much and I get it that the unregulated people that seeks shortsighted uplifitings can inflict pain in us. But I feel like it's given such people more power to this as it deserve.

[indigo wadi]

Wonder if Thor is taking tomorrow off

[strange ember]

I don't think so, someone got him on Blue Prince

I'd bet he'll want to have fun testing theories on stream

[indigo wadi]

He's going long today so that's why I wondered

[eternal cove]

I've struggle with something similar to Thor in a much different context and much smaller scale. Seeing what's happening here is a hard time for me as well. I am bizarrely emotional entangled in this subject. Seem him at Dr. K makes me happy and rethinking my own responses back at the time when I was in the mud. I think there is the wish to recoprate to a 'normal' state, but maybe at some scale, you won't have this 'normal' again and needs to deal with the outfall of your own success?

[jolly sky]

A good amount of them go into far heavier topics.

[opal bronze]

makes sense

[forest glacier]

I was there for the other 3. I loved how Dr K had suspicious power issues when they were doing that XD

[jolly sky]

But yea. Dr.K has a vast amount of knowledge and practice putting it into action over the years, not only with what must be 100's of people during his streams, but 1000's over the course of his professional career

[eternal cove]

The guide is also jsut great

I've been in the mental Health space for 18 years and try to find good source, and what he provide is just great.

And even when you don't can affort it, which I could for a long time, the free content is vast

[jolly sky]

He mixes Eastern traditions and Western Medical psychiatry in a very interesting and sensible way. There are things that the Monks and Yogi's learned about the mind in the East in their way, that Western Medicine is only scratching the surface of in recent times.

[flat moat]

His methodology is brilliant

[jolly sky]

Oh and the things the Yogi's and Monks discovered have been around for 1000's of years now

[forest glacier]

happy autism noises Im happy that ppl like Dr K. In my experience ppl tend to get very butt rustled when different belief systems collide (in this case Eastern + Western)

[minor nymph]

Nah

[minor nymph]

People get butt rustled about him all the time.
He's just a dude that can have a conversation with you regardless of circumstance.
Too much screaming bullshit online to have a real conversation.

[forest glacier]

NODDERS

[winter sierra]

i think society would be better off if more of us talked to people regardless of origin/core beliefs

[remote maple]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-rogaldorn-gif-10829755

[jolly sky]

I'm a big fan of Dr.K, been watching him for years

[forest glacier]

TBH I got more out of that interview in terms of social construct knowledge. Im too autistic and isolated to really understand the complexities of speech in a social setting like at all, and that interview exposed me to it in a controlled way I felt was easier to learn from.

[jolly sky]

Even been through some of his guide, it's been a good help. I just need to make use of it more.

[forest glacier]

Theres definitely some level of delusion likely with younger folk but I feel like theres a group of people who arent clinically insane on the "other side" who are getting caught up on this whole "its how you say it" stuff that Ive always been accused of whenever Ive had to interact IRL...

[jolly sky]

He really knows how to merge Eastern + Western stuff together that way makes sense, even logically when Logic is something that you kind of have to leave by wayside when he talks about more Esoteric stuff

[blissful imp]

predicted it. Also this is a quote tweet to Awk20000's tweet so hopefully this shows the correct video. https://fixupx.com/spaceghost/status/1918798324293075052

kari (@spaceghost)

Wild how Dr K literally predicted this.

Quoting yeet (@Awk20000)
︀
Dr K kept it real with Pirate Software in their chat yesterday
︀︀
︀︀“There’s something about the way that I hear you talk that rubs me the wrong way”

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FixupX · May 3, 2025, 10:42 PM

ok good its the quote tweets video.

not the one from Awk20000

[undone dragon]

...guys, Quit Seeking Out the Bad

there will always be more bad

it doesn't deserve your energy

it's the definition of punching yourself in the face and wondering why your nose is sore

[vague palm]

very correct

[undone dragon]

And the more the Bad it sought out, the more you are giving it value

I erally love this modified Gunslinger's creed for things like this...

I do not reply to the trolls.
He who replies to the trolls has forgotten the face of his father.
I reply to my friends.

I do not engage with the discourse.
He who engages with the discourse has forgotten the face of his father.
I engage with my passions.

I do not indulge in the rage.
He who indulges in the rage has forgotten the face of his father.
I indulge in the joy.

(edit to add credit where credit is due : https://should-be-sleeping.tumblr.com/post/703867643664498688)

[vague palm]

The father line is confusing out of context lol

[undone dragon]

lol, fair

[blissful imp]

oh i didn't seek this out.

[undone dragon]

there's also a variant on Dune's litany against fear if that's a reference you prefer :p

Zigzag : oh no bout some level of algorythm fed it to you. Engaging with it, copying the link, and bringing it back here however were 3 choices you made on your own

[indigo wadi]

Dr K is a scam artist though bro. Twitter said it so it must be true!!!

[vague palm]

[undone dragon]

The litany against getting Mad Online
I must not reply. Replying is the mind-killer. Replying is the little death that brings total obliteration.

😄

[vague palm]

Very Good.

[blissful imp]

the clip i shared wasn't even an argument. it was someone posting a quote tweet where Dr K predicted what the internet was going to do.

[undone dragon]

that one's mostly useful when getting mired in circular arguments and old school flame wars

[forest glacier]

I for one am not bothered in the slightest and find it engaging to discuss, I think its fair to have your own boundaries but not to demand it not be talked about. Anyway, I sign off for tonight

[undone dragon]

night night Sherpaorc!

[dusky grove]

i still haven't watched the interview. I'm saving it for a wednesday

[blissful imp]

cool clip i just saw on twitter. https://fixupx.com/GenePark/status/1918792883940872370

Gene Park (@GenePark)

one shot builds blah blah blah. i’ve turned expedition 33 into a ZERO TURN based game

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[kindred sedge]

would it be right to describe Expedition 33 as a Souls like Turn based rpg?

[indigo wadi]

You wouldn't be wrong

[kindred sedge]

good, cause thats how ive been explaining it to my dad

[exotic arrow]

Have we made anymore progress on blue prince or are we still looking at finding the salerium T meaning and the N on the roof?

[azure glen]

Thor is waiting, looking together with the blue prince community discord to see if there are any solutions to be found

[strange ember]

Coughs in syncretic spiritual chaos.
Nope, definitely not me blending American, European, Asian, modern and ancient traditions on a Hermetic backbone. Nope. No esoteric soup here. Nothing to see.
👀

[frosty thorn]

Wonder what thor is playing today

[storm lintel]

MAY THE 4TH BE WITH YOU

[strange ember]

I would expect blue prince because he wanted to yesterday, but had the obligation to work on BlockGame

[frosty thorn]

*throws force lighting at you * may the dark side be with you and join the dark side we got cookies and milk!

[storm lintel]

Never said I wasn't already on the dark side 😎

The force is the Force baby

https://tenor.com/view/yin-yang-logo-balance-peace-rotation-gif-5427338

[frosty thorn]

Oh god GET THAT OUT MY HEAD! I READ TO MANY STUFF TODAY I WENT DOWN RABIT HOLE BOUT the force and shivers force baby

[storm lintel]

I am thankfully blissfully unaware of what you are talking about

[frosty thorn]

Good little ferret

[serene valley]

Thor might've gotten a new idea yesterday when someone mentioned something in chat so i guess he might try some stuff today

[frosty thorn]

Maybe maybe he will play dune 🤷‍♂️

[strange ember]

That he's said not until June

That's why he was so annoyed at the power being out

[azure glen]

He can't until the next scheduled open stream time

[strange ember]

it was his only real opportunity to play for over a month

[frosty thorn]

Oh damnn

[golden mirage]

I was expecting more housing shenanigans today but it looks like he put the stream in Clair Obscur instead.

[dusky grove]

i doubt we'll get any blue prince until there's some kind of discovery. it feels like the community as a whole has hit a wall

or if we get a dev interview, which would be cool

[strange ember]

Someone ping me if we switch games please?
CO:E33 interests me not

[clear zinc]

[dusky grove]

Hmm

Everything about this game is about growing up...

[old light]

Thought I did something wrong for a minute, there. Kept trying to send messages in stream chat and getting a grey message saying "Your message failed to send"

Stupid internet connection being screwy again.

[strange ember]

https://tenor.com/view/network-connecting-online-zoom-loading-gif-20343119

^^^ me so often

[golden mirage]

thats my brain when I wake up.

[strange ember]

Oh that's funny: #answered-tts message
Why is this coming back. I'm sick of this. Delete the bone.
Now there's a compile error for the China build of WoW, probably forever that says basically: "Yo, dude, there's nothing here, da fuq?"

[forest glacier]

Oh hey I forgot about those as I always do. I am a YAPPER 😅 (NEARLY LEET)

[winter sierra]

mine for the ferrets

im even MORE of a yapper

(those 2 streams are from when it went down, i was asleep when the reset happened and then power went out)

[serene valley]

Oh the time there was about 1 hour stream and then it died

That sucked

I still got my streak tho

[gritty tartan]

wait, somebody again viewbotting?

[azure glen]

Yep

[silk scarab]

[gritty tartan]

ugh...

assholes

[astral crypt]

I call them "vile pond scum"

[gritty tartan]

there is pinned comment on the stream. damn it, someday I will learn to read.

[terse pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-cant-see-cant-read-meme-ken-jeong-gif-16673476

[azure glen]

Doubt it

[golden mirage]

Reading is for boomers, audio pin when?

[jolly sky]

With the amount of people I see in various Twitch chats saying that the streamer is muted when they absolutely aren't, I don't think even that would help

[golden mirage]

lol, fair point

[terse pelican]

People CAN Do that as a joke though

[strange ember]

You are a denizen of the internet, statistics say that's unlikely XD

[gritty tartan]

audio pin? did you mean a streamer?

[strange ember]

I think they mean a client-only audio alert when you load the stream, or when something gets pinned

[golden mirage]

Not the streamer, a play on audiobook - audiopin, a pinned comment that reads itself to you so you don't have to read.

A silly concept, don't overthink it.

[serene valley]

Oh mime bezos

Thats extremely funny

Please do that for other games

[jolly sky]

He's done it for Dune as well

Spiced up Bezos

[serene valley]

Blue Prince would just the a blue bezos

[proper phoenix]

thor gotviewbotted ?

115k watcher

[azure glen]

!viewercount

awww didn't ge copied over yet

"We are aware of the viewer count abnormality, we have reported this to twitch, no need to alert us further chat. This is a standard attack on Twitch, aiming to get the channel actioned"

[strange ember]

It's happened the last two days

[gritty tartan]

sadly, yes

[hard jackal]

Glad to see that people seem to like or at least be terrified of Mimezos.
Thor said in this clip (#streamclips message) that this may become a thing, so that means I have to create more Bezos variations in the near future.

[proper phoenix]

no wonder
i was watching caedrel and see on the corner that piratesolfware got 115k viewer

kek

[strange ember]

Oh, someone just tried to get Thor to check out The Coffin of Andy and Leyley
XD

[serene valley]

Yes Please its very funny

[river pivot]

Twitch please I am subbed stop disrupting my page with turbo ads

[strange ember]

Yeah, but you're not turbo'd

Subs are good for a single creator. Turbo's better for twitch

by a wide margin

[river pivot]

If it was happening in channels I am not subbed to I wouldn't care but doing it on channels I am just feels gross since the whole thing of being subbed is no ads

It isn't advertised as no ads*
*turbo banners not included

[strange ember]

They consider it to be "not an ad"

(Note I agree with you. I wish they wouldn't. Just trying to provide some alternate perspective as to why. Personally I find understanding the why makes me less annoyed at things. Dislike is a lot easier to deal with for me than aggravation)

[wintry pond]

its not an add in the stream, its an add in the platform itself. Loophole

[high iris]

accidentally started a pointhole redeem train

[strange ember]

<obnoxious nerdy/lawyer voice>
It's not an advertisement, I'm telling you about a feature in the site

[earnest mirage]

what about a Beezos?

[golden latch]

he can finally have hair

[drifting silo]

Why is thor paying only up?

[fallow fable]

its part of the game

[latent hazel]

wait wha i have to see it

why are you lying :c

[strange ember]

He was playing "only up" only in CO:E33

Check the last answered TTS

#answered-tts message

[hard jackal]

Can't even imagine Bezos with hair. Had to google it. Was not disappointed. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[hard jackal]

If Thor plays the Bee Simulator, I will make a Beezos!
https://store.steampowered.com/app/914750/Bee_Simulator/

[golden latch]

saw the high pony edit?

[river pivot]

https://www.twitch.tv/piratesoftware/clip/LaconicTriumphantBubbleteaSoBayed-Y252lkuLbY0xStyD
This was absolutely the highlight of today's stream for me

[frosty spear]

It's the only fountain that has the stones. I think I'm loosing my mind

[muted hare]

my only complaint would be it doesn't have the same pattern... but you could try to stand in order of the numbers?

[frosty spear]

Maybe you have to spin around it in a certain way to see something or it's a key to a cipher

[frosty spear]

Maybe

They aren't interactable with either super sledge, shovel or burning glass

[frosty spear]

Also I remember Thor talking about the community trying to find all 10 dishes in the dining hall and apparently you can get new one using blessing of the chef from the shrine(I presume the people in the blue prince already know this but eh)

[hasty grail]

i did end up finding a guide on this but the amount of coins correspond to a specific blessing and multiples of [AMOUNT] increase the days the blessing is active

as far as the mechanics of it go, keeping the exact blessings unmentioned

[frosty spear]

Blessing of the chief adds one new dish to the dining room that day for each spread room you have

There are 5 base dishes and 5 additional dishes trough the blessing so 10

Btw to inflict some psychic damage on some people each classroom has a different blue memo on rank 8

Also the pantry one is suspicious and the kennels one is pretty amusing

[placid plover]

Watching the vod with Dr.K rn and its very interesting to see the dissection about Thor's situation and its insane at how much people wanna hate on him for small things. his threats and hate doesn't really feel deserved tbh.

anyways hi chat

[indigo wadi]

Surprised you're allowed to be here

[placid plover]

?

Im sorry I don't understand. I was just saying my opinion based on that vod and how I still like Thor

[indigo wadi]

Mods aren't allowed bread

And yet here you are

[placid plover]

Wdym?

[indigo wadi]

Sooo

Thor doesn't allow bread to the mods

Your handle is bread

[placid plover]

oh ok lol. I was confused cause I was thinking, "im not a moderator and wasnt trying to be" and didnt get the bit

[indigo wadi]

It's a widely known bit

[placid plover]

yeah sorry, I wasnt aware of the bits in this community lol.

[indigo wadi]

Said often during chat

Stream*

[hasty grail]

at the same time it does take time for people to ferment on the general memes within chat

different bakes for different streamers sort of thing

Bread, dont worry about it too much, he might be trying to get a rise out of you

its not something to get burnt on

[indigo wadi]

Yeast....you are too crusty on this topic. Get some fresh material.

[hasty grail]

ive got a few batches resting at the moment, should be properly proofed by tomorrow though

[placid plover]

bread rise? I think im a fully baked loaf

[tiny sleet]

Monoco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWU2UCE9QTM

[dusky grove]

you know... I'm surprised nobody has tried the french deez nuts. and if you don't know what that is, google what 19 sounds like in french

[strange ember]

yeah, Mike's a bit crusty, don't worry, you're not toast for the name 🙂

[drifting silo]

Thors been having a weird thing for feet recently is that due to the french influence?

[azure glen]

It's his new feet of strength!

[sacred junco]

that 9999 cap can be removed right?

the damage cap

[drifting silo]

Damn the orphans are in debt to thor and now he even stealing their feet

[tiny sleet]

At some point after progression, yes.

[wanton stump]

The thing with mentalisation is something I have also struggled so much with

And its why I appreciate how thor speaks, and I know that it comes of as arrogant or know it all

But thats also what Ive been called most of my life so its quite refreshing to have someone who is similar as well

I thouroughly enjoyed the stream, and it was quite funny seeing thor learn about his blindspot in real time

[strange ember]

Honestly I wish more people were direct like that.
Say what you mean, mean what you say.

[serene valley]

I wonder if the viewbotting of thor is giving twitch any info on people to ban

[strange ember]

I doubt it. This kind of thing is usually done with botnet zombies. So malware infected machines

or by doing the fextralife "trick" of hiding it in a website, muted and "invisible"

[gaunt orchid]

I wonder if the trolls realize they are only helping Thor by the viewbotting XD

he's not getting into trouble over it, but his discoverability must be HUGE, being the #1 most watched channel right now

[vocal tree]

I doubt it. That would require them having the ability of critical thinking

[strange ember]

Most likely not. It's likely not the case for all of them, but most actions taken in anger or hatred aren't logical. They're emotive.

[indigo wadi]

100k? See Thor is doing just fine. No damage from the drama. None at all.

[serene valley]

since thor does tell twitch I bet twitch has a dial to dial down the effect of the 100k people

at least temporarily

[strange ember]

The thought process tends to go "I don't like <whatever>. This could hurt <whatever>. Hurting <whatever> makes me feel better."

[vocal tree]

Luckily Thor is smart enough to know how not to let it hurt him

[strange ember]

emotions don't tend to be good with temporal reasoning 🙂

[serene valley]

huh

[strange ember]

oh, whoops

That was a continuation of your thought, not a reply to my comment. My bad

[serene valley]

I just meant like, twitch probably can dial down the "this is popular" effect since they should know it's bots

but not make it permanent

[indigo wadi]

Thor is a real life Vulcan

[strange ember]

I think they mostly try to kill the bots so the views go away, because he's up on the charts whenever it happens. For Thor specifically they won't get "I just joined" ads, so that's not a concern for Twitch... though I do wonder how they deal with that for the channels that don't show ads regularly like Thor does so new joiners get instantAds

[strange ember]

Eh, he's still human. He's definitely been quite effected, even if only in lots of extra care/consideration that has to be taken and loonies to be referred to authorities

Shit's exhausting no matter who you are

[vocal tree]

I meant the viewbotting. The constant harassment has affected him as it would affect anyone

[serene valley]

oh hey the numbers are normal again

7k

[lusty pewter]

Get ready for a
https://www.reddit.com/r/dropout/comments/1kebo6u/what_secret_is_hiding_in_this_room/

[serene valley]

I wonder how moddable the game is

[hoary patrol]

inspired by the place Thor is in game and not taking my meds for a day (that has been rectified)

[strange ember]

I'm really interested to see if anyone that remixes the ideas does even remotely as good a job

[serene valley]

well I'd probably start with just adding a room