streamchat

[elfin brook]

where can I find it?

[ocean agate]

there is probably a link to their discord from the games official website

or maybe the steam page

[grim goblet]

i googled blue prince discord

it was top result

[unborn pebble]

has anyone tried datamining the 8th red letter?

[gusty wyvern]

yes, there's very very little that datamining revealed

[lunar abyss]

Okay, I know the developer has said no need to look for clues "outside the game".

But how am I supposed to ignore that the phrase which Thor discovered

"The mice will play"

Gives me a hit on google for a video uploaded by a user called

BluePeregrinus ???

and when you actually watch the video there's a female mouse writing a note on a piece of paper saying "I'm in the next room" Save Me!

[serene valley]

💀

[strange ember]

You... are shitting me

[weary vigil]

Author is not me, i found it somewhere on Reddit

[strange ember]

If that's what actually happens, I see why people are kinda peeved

[weary vigil]

it is, and it's really ||ends the day immediately if you try to look into the telescope after last star||

[strange ember]

Not only is it not relating to the story, but ||by the time you can get that it's a kinda trash effect XD||

[indigo wadi]

I nearly effed up my streak cause I didn't think Thor was streaming today

[brisk sparrow]

hes still live so you can still keep it

[random flower]

I found this as well and joined the discord only to find a place to put this. This describes how paths in the blue world work. It's from 2022.

[spice dragon]

Borderlands 4 coming out earlier september 12

[dusky grove]

Did we make any discoveries on BP?

[unkempt mason]

Is the stream over or did it crash? Ngl, I wasn't really paying attention lmao

[serene valley]

over

[unkempt mason]

Okay cool, thank youu

[minor nymph]

mahew means small house hewam means big house.

[indigo wadi]

Yeah I turned the stream on

[topaz root]

hello! question: does anyone else experience problems with Twitch using Firefox? 2 hours ago everything worked fine as usual, but it seems like there was an update for FF and now it doesn't show the stream anymore and some of the UI (like Sub button for example) is not accessible (like it's moved behind the chat or even further) When I go to fullscreen, the stream is there though...

I tried disabling some 3rd party addons like 7TV amd Better TTV, but that didn't change anything

[ocean agate]

Thor's stream ended

[topaz root]

yeah, sorry, I know this is not a troubleshooting channel, but I didn't really know where to put it

[ocean agate]

idk anything about addons, but i use firefox and had no trouble opening the ferret stream just now

well, it updated just now because i looked at it let me retest

i am using 138

[topaz root]

hmm, I'll have to look into it, but thanks for your help and testing

[ocean agate]

no worries

[elder oracle]

This is blue prince ideas and ponderings ||Blue Prince things ive noticed and wonder watching Thor: Laboratory has a plan of the estate, 5x9, With a T in the right most 8th rank. Thinking about Solarium, but also the rightmost 8th rank is the Blue houses Room 46 that changed from a furnace. Shade of Truth. The 6 on the P in gallery could be giving us clues to a letter-number cipher. Are there no hidden blue notes in the underground rooms? Do the blue notes change if you monk the room? Monk dormatory for 6th drafting strategy? Monk rumpus room for new prophecy?||

[dusky grove]

about your first point it might be ||the regular painting puzzle. 8th rank is Count after all...|||

the same thing happens in rank 2 on the left most slot

[ionic sleet]

Blue prince Ideas: Has it been confirmed if the Arrows that look like stuff, outside of puzzles, is an artistic style choice or something going on? Cause I think i saw something.

||In the Atelier Library Thor was following the arrow and i noticed something. up the stairs and towards the book with all the achievements? in that top corner is something that looks like a flag.

I only mention this because if the arrow is the starting point the bright white lines look like they lead to the flag.||

Small thing but just wanted to mention it.

[elder oracle]

|| Weight Room = Wait Room Same clock as den. Maybe its the right idea to wait in those rooms with the den clocks, but you need to wait in all of them in one run ||

[jade holly]

I finally remembered that Treble cleft meant something. I last read sheet music 20 years ago

[ocean agate]

instructions unclear; G not found treble uncertain.... chat GPT states common among males, please advise

[jade holly]

I'm getting no C either 🦴

[blissful imp]

Respawn posted a statement of the layoffs and cancelled titanfall game https://x.com/Respawn/status/1917267367144423543

Respawn (@Respawn) on X

X · Apr 29, 2025, 5:18 PM

[dark jay]

Is anyone here playing Blue Prince? I wanted to try translating it to another language I'm familiar with to contribute towards the game but I've only seen up to the demo so far. Are the puzzles difficult to translate into another language because of any word play like what Lingo does?

[uneven salmon]

I wish I could help, I haven't gotten that far yet

[sick sandal]

Hello!

I wanted to ask a question about PS' blue prince playthrough. This is the first time I've watched his (I'm sorry if that's not their pronouns, I'm just going off of a quick Google search) stream. Like a year ago I saw his YouTube clips and proceeded to follow his twitch, but I've been so busy with life, and every stream I am able to catch just doesn't interest me game wise. Finally, I saw he was playing blue prince, which is like, my game of the year so far, so I had to start watching his vods for it. Upsettingly, chat just keeps spamming the answers for everything, and twice now it's spoiled the answer to a puzzle for him. (I'm like 4 hours into the first vod) Not that those puzzles were like, super important, they just weren't really solvable until later. My question is, **does he ever turn on emote only mode or anything like that? **

Listening to his thought process as he's solving so far has been awesome! Chat spamming the answer constantly to where no amount of moderating can stop, and where he doesn't get to share any thought processing of it before being spoiled, is frustrating.

[indigo wadi]

He doesn't because it does not want to impede chat in any way

[sick sandal]

I've heard from reading forums that because of the puzzles, it's next to impossible to translate. Which sounds extremely frustrating I'm sorry!

[sick sandal]

That makes sense. That's 1000% valid.

I won't pretend to understand the ecosystem of a stream I just started watching, it does seem like there is a bit of banter, and I imagine emote only mode would kill the vibe.

[indigo wadi]

Thor is pretty good at knowing when to look at chat and when not to when it comes to puzzle solving

[sick sandal]

That's good to hear

[sick sandal]

I'll further explain why it is nearly impossible. This will be spoilers, though if you watched the first couple hours of Thor's vods, you'll know what I'm talking about. ||Every room has 2 paintings, and those paintings are 1 letter off from being each other. For example: One painting will be a mine cart, another one, will be a car. The idea is that you take cart - car and get the letter t. You put those letters from each room in each grid together, and they form a secret message! I don't know enough about other languages, but to me it seems like this wouldn't work at all for other languages, and would likely need to be completely reworked.||

And that's only one, this game is completely full of clever wordplay that, to my knowledge, only works in english.

[dark jay]

Oh yeah.. that's going to be really tough

[ionic sleet]

Chat may spam the answer but watching it all till now it doesn't really help him. I could give you the answer to multiple things in this game but it wont help cause you need to know the "Why" and "Where".

I Recall like 2-3 times they spam the answer really but 90% of the time they are wrong. they spammed one room code but it was the wrong order as well.

You really solve this game with multiple people cause the game is just so amazingly well and mixed together. its the first two vods though that they spam chat since they just passed that part themselves but later on they really sit back and work on it together like we are now.

[sick sandal]

Yeah I'll have to catch up on vods. The two specific times I'm talking about is ||the time lock safe, where they tell him the current date, when I don't think he's learned it yet|| and ||The office safe, where someone tells him how to solve the puzzle, saying that he needs to ignore the big statue, and then Thor says that was a weird solution. Which makes sense because it is weird, until you get the the clue later telling you how to solve it.|| Though I will say ||I'm pretty sure he would have gotten the office safe within the next few minutes without someone telling him to ignore the big statue. One of the oldest tricks in puzzles is "One of these things is not like the other" So he probably would've figured it out quickly, since only one of the count statues was super large.|| For everything else though I've loved hearing his thought process for every little thing, it's been fascinating.

[ionic sleet]

yea and the mods quickly shut all the spoilers down and after the first Vod things are better now.

[sick sandal]

That's good! I am now realizing though that the vods are 15 hours long... omg maybe I'll put it on 2x speed or something lol.

[indigo wadi]

just wait for the long play vod on youtube

[sick sandal]

Oh no

[winter sierra]

a realllly long thor video will be great for peaceful (and totally sane) background noise

[jade topaz]

am I allowed to share my stream here?

[lusty pewter]

No. Give yourself a "Streamer" role in id:customize and you will get access to the #self-promo-streaming channel that seems to be more suitable for that.

[jade topaz]

Thank you sir

[ocean agate]

#advertising works too for sharing streams doesnt it?

[lusty pewter]

actually yeah, did not notice that channel because it is hidden for me.

[ocean agate]

i think it works better too since you dont need a role to see it so it reaches more people

[blissful imp]

isn't this the thing from Tiktok streams? https://fixupx.com/zachbussey/status/1916951372760568084

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imagine an npc stream on twitch with people saying Dumpy when the emote pops up. or Kappa. or PogChamp.

[serene valley]

From what Thor said it won't be edited down much

Cuz of the animal well long-play having people say he cheated cuz the solutions "go too quick"

But that's just editing

[ionic sleet]

I think he'll just cut the ads that don't have much talk or TTS going on or include the finished TTS then cut the remain of the ads.

[golden mirage]

Yeah, thats pretty much what he's said, cut the ad time unless there's talk of the game in it. Basically, keep the cut time as short as possible.

[warped venture]

please use #advertising

[strange ember]

I just saw someone do a day one speedrun of Blue Prince.
They showed one route and said "I've got all the currently known routes in the description"
I checked. Most of them are varying levels of reasonable... and then...
||Get all 3 microchips, and get the experiment to unlock an antechamber door.||
Which requires: ||Utility Closet, Garage, Boiler Room to power Laboratory, Orchard, Shovel, Magnifying Glass, Metal Detector, Sledgehammer, and managing to get the right experiment||

So... technically possible, but holy crap RNG

[radiant scroll]

I just saw someone speedrun Blue Prince with glitches within 2.5 minutes, no specific rooms required 😄

Speaking of, is there more Blue Prince streaming to be done or is that at least Shelved until more community discoveries?

[strange ember]

That's what got me on the speedrun I was talking about. I'm not a fan of glitched/skip runs.
They usually just look like (and I know they aren't, but that doesn't stop the subjective perception) someone hacking, and that doesn't interest me.
I don't mind glitches and skips and funny warps and stuff. But it stops feeling like "skilled gameplay" or "mastery of the game", again. Nothing against those speedrunners. That's why we have categories. It takes as much if not more skill/investigation to get the Any% glitched WRs. Just not my jam

[long pilot]

Q: has Thor tested any other passwords for Blackbridge other than LeeB?

[golden mirage]

he's tested many passwords, almost anything in the game that can be turned into one, he's tried.

[long pilot]

Does anyone know if he's tested any of mum's aliases?

[strange ember]

Considering that I know he's tried marigold, I would assume he's tried others

[ocean agate]

Dominant...... cough not a cult......

[covert token]

Say, where can I find the Blue Prince discord where all the community is hanging out?

[dusky grove]

if I were to guess, check reddit or smth. those usually link to a community discord

[ocean agate]

We hunger

[rocky grove]

Anyone know why theres no stream today? I know he does stream on thursdays, but its a wednesday

Right???

[undone dragon]

Wednesday and Thursday are Thor's days off

he streams 5/7 days in the week. This is his weekend

and we've been getting some extra long streams too in the last weeks because the Puzzles are tasty and he's been in the zone/going for 15-18h in a few of them

[rocky grove]

ahhh, ok

i didnt know about wednesdays as well

thanks!

[undone dragon]

my pleasure!

[strange ember]

google.com — blue prince discord
first three links all have the discord links for me... also the shortlink is the usual for all server links with "BluePrince"

[lusty pewter]

judging on how he speaks of the mary's fate, it's obvious that he missed ||the names of two of the mary's companions that can be found in|| ||the book about the pump room||

[strange ember]

Huh, TIL "Blue Prince" is also a type of holly plant

[frosty plume]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1569580/view/516334711921967161

Blue Prince update @minor nymph 💙
Patch 1.04

[strange ember]

||We have implemented a different solution for the reported softlock underground, allowing us to restore the position saving for the giant gear from day to day.||
||Corrected a few mistakes in text documents that were conflicting with the story’s timeline. Document locations for these changes include Bookshop, Archives, and Shelter.||
The two fixes most likely relevant to Thor

[stone nacelle]

curious

i believe i'd need a comparison to understand it 🙂

[ocean agate]

incase anyone wasnt aware ashes stream starting in like 10min
https://www.twitch.tv/ashesofcreation

[ocean agate]

stream over

[opal bronze]

as much as i want a 200 hour long youtube video because it is hilarious, it would be really nice having blue prince episodes so i can catch up and then watch the stream

although the cut down streams would differ maybe a couple hours from what im hearing about the minimal editing so idk if it would be worth it

[golden mirage]

It might make sense for each video to be a block of days and not worry about the length of each video. Such as video 1 contains day 1 - day 10, video 2 contains day 11 through day 20, etc. It'll give some organization to it without imposing a lot of extra editing..

[jolly sky]

Chapters are a thing

[blissful imp]

Huge News https://x.com/tomwarren/status/1917718047625715786

Tom Warren (@tomwarren) on X

the judge in Epic v. Apple has just put Apple on blast over its anticompetitive behavior. Apple is no longer allowed to collect fees on purchases made outside apps, and Apple might face possible criminal contempt proceedings https://t.co/UPqoKsFICD

X · Apr 30, 2025, 11:09 PM

[dusky grove]

Iirc there is a limit to how many chapters a single video can have. Its around...70 i think? I know wolf glicke's "I rank every type combination" vid hit the limit

[golden mirage]

I was catching up on the last stream and noticed, in the Cloister of Mila, the shadow cast by the statue seems to take a T or a Y shape. I wonder if that ties into anything.

[dusky grove]

Might. Since all the statues are angels they're gonna be the same shaped shadow probably

[opal bronze]

sure, but talking about uploading vids while the game is still going on to help catch people up so they can watch the livestreams without getting spoiled if they plan to see the whole playthrough, post game yeah chapters are fine

[fallow fable]

another L for youtube

[golden mirage]

I get that you're just trying to score some cool internet points by hating on the big company but how exactly is this supposed to be an L for youtube?

If it is 70, even at Thor's lengthy videos, that would be around 6 an hour or one chapter every 10 minutes. With the way the video progress bar work, its hard to select something that specific when you're trying to click for a specific time and visually you'd end up with a long overlay of chapter nodes on the bar that would make it hard to see the actual bar itself.

Having more chapters isn't better, it just becomes a mess after a certain point.

[fallow fable]

I was poking fun at the edge case like how the streams cut off at 11:55 😭

[strange ember]

People actually use the nav bar for that with more than like 6 chapters?
Just expand it out and use the sidebar!

[tribal nest]

It would be fun if they did actually make edited videos, and put them into an unlisted playlist that can only be found in the description of the long video (or through an ARG, knowing Thor)

[indigo wadi]

There will be chapters most likely

[dusky grove]

oh cool, interview with dr.k soon

[opal bronze]

A 3rd one? When?

[opal bronze]

It would defeat the purpose of why it's unedited this time unfortunately but yeah outside of that I think a specific community event could be cool

[opal bronze]

In the video post game? Yeah

[opal bronze]

oh sick

[dusky grove]

if that's friday at noon, which is usually thor's end of stream, does that mean we still get a stream and he just goes to the interview right after or will it be no-stream to save energy for the interview

i wasn't here for the previous interviews so idk

[azure glen]

Most likely stream and then raid into the interview

[wispy dragon]

Assuming CST is referring to central time in the US, it's actually 2 hours before the normal end of stream, which is Pacific time

[undone dragon]

Last time he spoke with Dr K he just raided over (dumping all the goblins into Dr K's chat)

[kindred holly]

Nice! I remember seeing one of his interviews with Thor on youtube and it was really insightful.

I'm a little nervous about how much trolling will happen in the comments tho.

[indigo wadi]

there's always going ot be trolling. it's out of our control. Trust the mods.

[kindred holly]

You're not wrong

I'm likely gonna be listening to it while at work so I don't think I'll see it that much, but even if that does happen, I kinda hope they just ignore that shit.

[indigo wadi]

yeah, trolling has already begun on DrK's chat. Honestly disgusting at this point.

[jolly sky]

You'd think that subscribers and followers of Dr. K would have a smarter head on their shoulders

[indigo wadi]

it's the general internet. I suspect those that are watching are specifically haters of Thor.

[jolly sky]

I'd advise everyone watching to close whichever chat you see the stream on

[indigo wadi]

Also agree. It's going to be a complete S-show

[jolly sky]

Hah, seems that someone is keeping an eye on the pre-show chat already

Someone with moderation powers

[indigo wadi]

well some of the more negative comments are still up

[jolly sky]

Well, the "Roach" comment got deleted, so someones got eyes on it

[indigo wadi]

99% of the current chat should get wiped tbh

cause all it is is calling out WoW Hardcore stuff or just accusing him of lying

[toxic jacinth]

Did Thor finish with blue prince? I’m trying to avoid spoilers as I catch up on VODs

Am I safe to watch stream tonight?

[unkempt mason]

He got stuck, and reached out to the community to try and solve some stuff. We don't actually know for sure if he beat the game, as far as I'm aware. And if you're trying to avoid spoilers, idk if it'll be fine to watch, it really depends on how far into the game you've wanted so far.

[toxic jacinth]

Thanks I’ve got about 3 hours from Monday, and a friend checked the VOD and said Thor changed games about 8 hours into Tuesday VOD.
I think I’ll get through the VODs before tuning in live again. I really appreciate the answer.

[unkempt mason]

Ofc ofc!

[azure glen]

Golden kappa train, get your swagger

[carmine birch]

Starting Stream Strong

[golden mirage]

Oh my...its Clair Obscur time!

[sterile junco]

good morning...

[delicate shell]

I am super out of the loop on ashes. What exactly is going on? Is Thor not playing anymore?

I heard him get a question about it at the beginning of the stream and he answered but I didn't hear his answer.

[dusky grove]

Blue prince? Thor, and the bp community as a whole, seem to be stuck so they're experimenting with stuff collaboratively in discord or reddit or whatever. I suspect a bp stream again if theres a breakthrough

[delicate shell]

Ashes of creation, not blue prince.

[dusky grove]

AoC? If i heard correctly then he said he hasnt made a character yet. He checked the response from the community and it didnt seem favorable so he will prolly wait til a new patch if i were to guess

[proud depot]

Gustave looks like John Lennon dressed in Breton costume

[simple hawk]

So, uh, I'm just gonna leave this here. I've been losing my shit over how funny it is since I saw Thor's character originally, but it's just spiked today when I started watching the stream, so wanted to share.

[dusky grove]

AHAHAHA

[simple hawk]

I want to ping Thor, but I feel like that's in bad taste - even if worth the giggle. If a mod sees it also funny and shares this with Thor I'd appreciate it.

[simple hawk]

Ooh, on second thought, I might TTS it.

[simple hawk]

One of the devs looks like the main character as well.

[jolly sky]

That Troubadour Horn PARPING is so funny

[simple hawk]

Vuvuzela go DOOT

[jolly sky]

https://tenor.com/view/leespoons-wham-parp-parp-george-michael-andrew-ridgeley-gif-14609923

[hard jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/pixel-art-trumpet-doot-doot-meme-dancing-gif-27309766

[wintry pond]

I love that each character has multiple build options. My team: lune- debuffs, brakes and healing. mael- battery tank. ||sciel-||(next character thor unlocks)- main dps.

[hoary blaze]

I think we should normalize carrying a loaf of bread on your back

[wintry pond]

or any other food

[hoary blaze]

maybe not back cheese

[covert ember]

Found an interesting detail in Blue Prince:|| I've noticed that you can see the moon atop of the room 46 roof from the clock tower, but not from the outside.||

[hot elk]

Back yogurt

[wintry pond]

we need a mime emote

[hollow yacht]

As someone currently sweating profusely from a hike, please no

[hot elk]

Mmmm okay back milk it’s great for hydration after exercise

[hollow yacht]

I might become profusely ill at the thought of drinking milk right now

Though I did assist with a move once where the madman helping us in 110 degree heat in August decided to hydrate by chugging like 1/4 of a gallon of milk in the fridge

It was horrifying

[strange ember]

Projectile'd all over everything?

[hollow yacht]

Somehow no

We aren’t convinced Paul is human

I however felt like projectiling watching it happen

[hot elk]

Tha'ts awful I would be in fear of that man lol

[hollow yacht]

We all are

[wintry pond]

if they win goty, I wish they come as mimes

[dusky grove]

Esqui sounds like guga foods. The cadence of his speech

[tribal nest]

Damn, I'm really conflicted. I want to continue watching the stream, but I'm also really tempted to buy the game (even though I still have other games to play)

[hot elk]

Same dude, I’ve resigned to just watch the game through stream rather than buy it and focus on Oblivion remaster for now

[indigo wadi]

Let ppl try and claim Thor doesn't take responsibility now

[summer night]

they already are in Dr.K chat

[indigo wadi]

Yeah then it's just willful ignorance

[summer night]

its mainly people calling thor BS and everything

[indigo wadi]

Yeah

[summer night]

im Hopefully for dr.K

[indigo wadi]

The fact that ppl can't get over the fact that Thor did tale responsibility is really astounding

[summer night]

because i want this BS to end

[indigo wadi]

It's internet. It'll never end

They go beyond beating a dead horse

[kindred holly]

Looking at the stream chat was anmistake

[indigo wadi]

Told ya

[charred wolf]

You're kidding me.

It has been how many months since the incident?

[summer night]

5 month when ive seen other people would worse get less

[charred wolf]

And people are still mad AT Thor for what happened at OnlyFangs?

[woeful geyser]

ayup

[summer night]

aye

[indigo wadi]

100 days

It's wild that it's going on this long still

[summer night]

its the clip it and ship it

[terse pelican]

The Internet latches on to the strangest things for the longest time for no sane reason

[summer night]

thank god i have a long weekend

and i can decompress

[jolly sky]

Yea I did give a warning for a reason hah

[gaunt remnant]

Is Dr. K a mental health professional? I don't know anything about him

[summer night]

yes

[gaunt remnant]

It's surprising someone so level headed has such a god awful chat

[jolly sky]

He normally doesn't. I guarantee this is hate watchers.

[kindred holly]

It totally is

[indigo wadi]

Yes

[jolly sky]

But yes. Dr.K has been a Psychologist for many years. Many years experience in both Eastern traditions and Western Medicine/Clinical Psychology

[charred wolf]

I'll have "things that don't matter" for 400.

[terse pelican]

https://healthygamer.gg/dr-alok-kanojia <- Dr K's about on his website

[gaunt remnant]

In a way it's quite funny to see haters in chat feeling conflicted in face of compassion and logic

[rough tusk]

K seems like a good guy

[charred wolf]

You see, mainstream gamers are known for immense levels of emotional intelligence and tactful behavior.

[jolly sky]

He has a vast amount of knowledge in many many aspects.

[rough tusk]

[indigo wadi]

Was a hindu monk too

[rough tusk]

Is the stream breaking?

[indigo wadi]

Not for me

[terse pelican]

Something on Dr.K's end

[arctic needle]

Psychology and psychiatry are 2 different things

[jolly sky]

He does an incredible job at mixing both old, old Eastern Yogi knowledge and wisdom, and Western modern psychiatry* medical practices

[woeful geyser]

latency issues between the two was the hiccup there

[charred wolf]

Thor just needs to upgrade his setup, ngl.

(I'm lying)

[gaunt remnant]

They are tied but have differences. They're not completely different

[terse pelican]

No No, Thor's fine on Carrier Pidgeons. He doesn't need to upgrade to Horse messengers

[charred wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/cuddlechvv-edgeworth-miles-gif-22517278

[rotund vine]

Probably should talk about it privately

[gaunt remnant]

I think the point is trying to publicly show the other side of the story

But we all know it's never gonna work

Haters gonna hate

[indigo wadi]

It can be a window for other streams that end up in similar situations

[rotund vine]

I am not sure, I think Thor is rather defensive on this topic, which is fair, but this will be the fuel for the haters, more haters are not gonna help Thor's mental health

[indigo wadi]

Haters will find any reason, doesn't matter where it comes from

[gaunt remnant]

"You're an ahole"
"Don't call me an ahole"
"Why are you being so defensive?"

This is basically the logic being applied by haters in chat

[proper phoenix]

both party should have not mention this topic again
its been months already let it pass

[indigo wadi]

I don't think this'll create more, it'll just remotivated the current haters to act out again

[indigo wadi]

Yet it's still going on. Not talking about it solves nothing

[woeful geyser]

that's the thing, they haven't needed motivation to keep acting out

[gaunt remnant]

It already did today, we had one in general_chat earlier

[jolly sky]

Dr. K asked hows its been going. Thor answered honestly. That's the best thing to do in this conversation.

Especially when you're talking to a psychiatrist of all people.

[indigo wadi]

Naturally. They're going to keep coming regardless.

[proper phoenix]

but talk ab add more to the hate
might at well stay at hate +10 than hate +100

[indigo wadi]

This is better, for Thor, to talk it through so he can process it better mentally.

[rotund vine]

I really hope they can resolve this problem once and for all

[indigo wadi]

Not talking about it is bad.

[rotund vine]

But on stream, idk

[proper phoenix]

yes but this sort of thing would be better to talk ab privately without the pressence of 10k ppl watching uk

[indigo wadi]

Normally, yes.

But other streamers that may go through something similar, will have a window of what to expect and prepare for it.

[tribal nest]

At the same time I do feel like this isn’t the best thing to do on stream because it also feels like they’re walking on eggshells

[jolly sky]

There have been far heavier topics than this on Dr.K's streams in the past. This is both a mental health conversation, and as a lesson for everyone else.

[proper phoenix]

yea
like as we are talking ab this rn
new post ab piratesolfware is posted on the reddit that ignite the whole wow drama again
some stuff are just better off staying private

[gaunt remnant]

I don't know about how heavy those topics were, but if I were in Thor's shoes right now, knowing this issue had caused me to have had multiple Swatting attempts, I'd be scared shitless to talk about it too

[rotund vine]

I hope this turned out good, don't have a good feelings about this🙏

[jolly sky]

I do however get where you're coming from @proper phoenix . Perhaps further private conversations would do well for Thor, but I don't want to even pretend to give Thor advice, as he's already talking to the best person for that

[indigo wadi]

Wouldn't matter. People are always watching to pounce. Something would of triggered the reactivation of the haters. Zero reason to not do something good for ones own mental health

[proper phoenix]

this will not turn out good at all

[jolly sky]

Extremely heavy. Absolute breakdowns on streams.

[indigo wadi]

Also talking about this publicly shows others that Thor is not scared to address it

[tribal nest]

That too, but I also felt like Dr. K wanted to say something but ended up not saying it because there’s an audience

[proper phoenix]

u can also do st good for ones own mental health while aso not triggering the reaction of haters

[indigo wadi]

But you can let the haters control what you do with your life.

That's how they win.

can't*

[opal bronze]

dr k is being very careful but i hope thor keeps an open mind

[indigo wadi]

"oh i shouldn't do this cause the haters" screw that mentality.

[woeful geyser]

he has stated he's carefully weighing his words with the consideration it could get clipped out of context, so, yeah

[indigo wadi]

"i think you're a superhuman being" he's not wrong

like look at all the good thor does

[opal bronze]

dr k is the best outside perspective he's got of this since it started

[jolly sky]

And he has a lot of knowledge in many different aspects to draw from

[drifting pulsar]

I'm jumping in to this chat late on it, but I'm absolutely loving this conversation but it absolutely feels like I'm sitting in on someone's therapy session and it feels super weird.

[tribal nest]

Yeah, it does feel really uncomfortable, but it’s also so interesting to watch

[opal bronze]

im just glad its hitting this head on with a professional

[livid path]

This guest is interesting, never seen them before but they seem to be well versed in psychology

[indigo wadi]

They are

Also used to be a Hindu Monk, which I love

[jolly sky]

This is pretty much how 1-on-1 conversations with Healthy Gamer goes. He talks with people. So that the person he is talking to, that other people in his community, and worldwide can learn

[livid path]

Woah

[proper phoenix]

u are kek

[livid path]

From what I’ve seen at least, Thor is always willing to talk things out as long as the other party is being reasonable. He’s not perfect ofc, but he makes an active effort

[indigo wadi]

100%

[rotund vine]

I do think haters impact the way that Thor acts
And I suspect that's exactly what the haters want, they want to see Thor mess up, they like to see Thor gets defensive and "enjoy the show"

[summer night]

i have a feeling this need to be taken offline

[livid path]

The stream?

[indigo wadi]

Thor is fine with having this done on stream.

[livid path]

The purpose is to try and resolve some of the tension

[opal bronze]

he's got blind spots for sure that dr k is hitting at

[indigo wadi]

Otherwise he woudln't have requested it

[proper phoenix]

welp may bro prepare for another wave of hate back in buisness

[jolly sky]

Yes, his knowledge base on Eastern Spirituality, and things that were practiced for 1000's of years that were mentally healthy, and then his Professional Western Medical knowledge is fantastic

[indigo wadi]

Imposter Syndrome maybe?

[livid path]

I believe it’s known he struggles with that

[indigo wadi]

I know he's dealt with it in the past, but I wonder if he's still dealing with it

[jolly sky]

And how he mixes that stuff together

[rotund vine]

yeah... maybe I shall respect Thor's decision, let's see how this unfolds

[indigo wadi]

Giving context is arrogance? huh?

[gentle mortar]

huh??

[opal bronze]

i trust dr k here he sees both sides

[indigo wadi]

From the stream.

[woeful geyser]

it's all in the phrasing, really, is what he means i think?

[gentle mortar]

ik, im just reacting that it also surprised me

[indigo wadi]

gotcha

[jolly sky]

Dr.K knows what he's doing. Sometimes he says things to bring out a certain emotion in people, and then asks them what they felt etc.

[tribal nest]

Damn, this guy is good

[rotund vine]

yeah let Dr.K cook

[opal bronze]

for sure

he's hitting at what needs to be hit for thors benefit trust

[charred wolf]

What a fun podcast.

[timber vortex]

loving some of the armchair psychatrists/therapists in twitch chat saying Dr. K's wrong 🤦‍♂️

[indigo wadi]

naturally

[nova bough]

on one hand, i appreciate thor doing this on stream, on the other.... it feels odd listening to a therapy session

[opal bronze]

there will be a mixture of saying dr k isnt going hard enough and mixture from this community saying dr k is doing too much just how it is

[jolly sky]

Lol imagine trying to argue with someone who's been doing this for over 20 years, and has a knowledge based far beyond anything they have ever experienced

[opal bronze]

the hope is that people in similar positions get benefit from it

[jolly sky]

Just gotta trust Dr.K's process

[tribal nest]

I think what makes me feel like this shouldn’t be live, is that he is using actual good tactics and is actually going through the process in a good way, but I fear that people are going to take parts of the process and use it to slander him.

[proper phoenix]

ehrm actually he is wrong btw

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-nuh-no-cat-shake-head-gif-17947965065247170515

[nova bough]

yeah i get why hes doing it, and appreciate what they're doing, but it does feel odd

[tribal nest]

But I see what he’s doing and I know it will get a good ending

[proper phoenix]

it is an odd experience for sure

[gaunt remnant]

I think it's fascinating, but I love psychology

[nova bough]

yeah

[jolly sky]

trust me, this is nothing new on a Dr.K conversation.

[opal bronze]

dr k is insanely skilled to know excerpts from a situation from only one side and still sees the problems

[indigo wadi]

Welcome to the internet

[gaunt remnant]

That's what therapists do

[charred wolf]

These techniques aren't private information

[gaunt remnant]

This really does help me understand Thor's psychology and point of view on things more, and it becomes a lot clearer how this situation escalated and how Thor thinks, and why he acts the way he does about it

It's truly fascinating

[charred wolf]

I still got a ton of questions.

[gaunt remnant]

Thor is very clearly experiencing Cognitive Dissonance

[tribal nest]

Like, I see which of Thor’s blindspots he’s trying to ‘solve’, and his process is very good, but by doing it, it puts those blindspots in the spotlight

[opal bronze]

i wouldnt be suprised if thor had autistic tendancies (positive) given how good he is at logical problems

[rotund vine]

nah, shouldn't back seat live therapy, let him cook

[opal bronze]

true im not saying he does for sure

[proper phoenix]

GAD DEM

oh wait wrong server

lol

[opal bronze]

huge

[proper phoenix]

[serene valley]

poggiewoggies

[gentle mortar]

that's so funny

[terse pelican]

Genshin?

[rotund vine]

no no I am not saying this to any1 specific, just in general

[indigo wadi]

lol

[tribal nest]

Yeah, it is indeed very interesting to get a view into Thor’s psychology, and everything does start to make more sense. It also makes me realize why those ‘blindspots’ don’t really bother me, because they’re similar to my own thought process

[proper phoenix]

star of the rail

[opal bronze]

ah i see

[terse pelican]

Ah.

[proud coral]

dance with me chat

[terse pelican]

Gz on a god item ? I don't know if it's actually good or not

[opal bronze]

alot of people are similar here for sure

[proper phoenix]

just item with good stat

basically a god piece if your luck is good

[indigo wadi]

So what are Thors Blindspots?

[jolly sky]

That makes perfect sense, what Dr.K just said. When you're wrong and been shown proof that you're wrong, and done in the right way, if you're mentally/emotionally balanced, it's easy to accept that.

But when you're right, and people are still coming at you, it's harder to resolve that.

[opal bronze]

ill leave that to the trained therapist

[nova bough]

Most people here think of Thor as mostly a good person, but if you went to reddit, you'd think he's the most arrogant person. And i personally think the truth is somewhere inbetween, and Dr K is getting at it

[indigo wadi]

Oh I thought Dr. K said what they were and I missed it

[charred wolf]

From what I can tell: they hate thor because he's efficient at disarming hostile stuff irl instead of being tactful. Something about being too assertive, too dismissive.

[opal bronze]

im sorta half listening he might of but idk

[indigo wadi]

That's actually fair. I can see that

[flint sinew]

*watching you all *

[indigo wadi]

HI STAR

WE ARE BEHAVING

[opal bronze]

im innocent

[charred wolf]

The abyss watches back.

[arctic needle]

No bread here

[indigo wadi]

It's Action Dans' fault

[opal bronze]

its all his idea i swear

[jolly sky]

Oi now

[rotund vine]

I think the conversations have been pretty respectful

[indigo wadi]

LOL

[tribal nest]

Maybe a bit of backseat psychologizing, but I also think that the Imposter Syndrome that Thor has talked about a few times, may also be the reason why he’s taking this criticism much harsher because of it, because internally it’s fuel for the Imposter Syndrome

[jolly sky]

Honestly all is good here. I like to think I'm helping to introduce who Dr.K is and how he operates

(I've watched him for a long time)

[tribal nest]

I may have used the word because a bit too much

[charred wolf]

He's talked about that, but I'm fairly certain he evaluates his worth well. He's just humble.

[terse pelican]

I don't think it's the Imposter Syndrome, But just human psychology in how Negative stuff has a greater effect on us compared to positive stuff

[proper phoenix]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1103790448344051802/1198981278280720455/caption-3.gif

[jolly sky]

But also, lets not try to psychoanalyse Thor. Let Dr.K do that.

[drifting pulsar]

https://www.issendai.com/psychology/estrangement/missing-missing-reasons.html

I believe this is what he keeps referencing. I've seen this before about parents with estranged children primarily.

[indigo wadi]

I do wonder if saying things like "I worked at Blizz for X years" for giving context comes off as too braggy

[tribal nest]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-business-milly-cat-meow-meow-gif-14864149024422805548

[opal bronze]

for people who dont know him absolutely

like its an objective fact but people dont see it that way

[gaunt remnant]

It feels like a brag, because he's saying it to the wrong people. If you say this to an employer, they're really happy. When you say this to Kevin 19yo on his phone on the toilet, you could imagine he could feel "belittled" by it

[opal bronze]

thor is very good with corporate

[proper phoenix]

i feel attacked
not sitting on the toilet rn tho

[jolly sky]

Also I feel like this is too much into it, let Dr.K find what he wants to bring up, rather than trying to on his behalf, if that makes sense

[indigo wadi]

Depends entirely on the discussion though. If 19yo Kevin is talking about game dev, Thor giving that info is helpful to what he's explaining.

[charred wolf]

On its own, I don't think it's bragging at all.

I think it comes down to the context of what it's being spoken in.

[indigo wadi]

I know he does tend to mention it to bigger raids/newer people to give context about his work background.

I wonder if maybe him saying "I've worked in the game dev sceen for XX years" would work better

[gaunt remnant]

That's true but that's not the whole of Twitch. A lot of his viewers, especially during the OnlyFangs stuff were from the outside who just knew Thor as "that one streamer who blew up" and nothing else

[charred wolf]

"I worked at blizzard for X years, I know insert thing that people don't". That's when it can become perceived as bragging, even though thor does not have that intent.

[indigo wadi]

I also wonder if him no longer coding on stream very much is hurting how people view him, since he used to code a lot on stream.

[jolly sky]

Dr.K is literally talking about how other subjectively people see him right now. I'd do yourselves a favour, and just listen.

[charred wolf]

I think that's more or less the gist of it.

[proper phoenix]

yea

[nova bough]

some people are just used to multitasking.

[gaunt remnant]

I did notice a lot of the conding streams have been replaced by gaming streams a lot. I kind of stopped watching due to that because I found the coding streams much more chill

[jolly sky]

If you're able to do both, then fair

[opal bronze]

i mean its just his resume he's putting out before anything else so people dont get hung up on him talking about game dev like "ok but what gives you the right to speak on x and y in the game dev space" but unfortunately its caused a new problem for people who dont care about that in the first place thinking its bragging

[charred wolf]

I'm doing like 8 different things at once rn lol

[indigo wadi]

To add to that, the coding was mainly Heartbound/BlockGame. Heartbound he's nearly done so he codes it off stream to avoid spoiler,s Blockgame, I honestly have no idea what he stopped coding it on stream.

I know Thor was getting sick and tired of the Blockgamers doing silly things

[nova bough]

if i remember right, Thor gave 2 reasons for heartbound coding - one was people hated the spoilers, two was he does not like writing the script on stream

[rotund vine]

This might be a trauma thing

idk

[indigo wadi]

He feels his writing is weaker when done on stream, I think

[brisk sparrow]

Basically

[opal bronze]

yea he cant focus properly

[gaunt remnant]

To be fair, if you think about "I worked at Blizzard for 7 years" in another context, I'd give my condolences to that person because that sounds like an awful experience

[proper phoenix]

me2 ngl i kinda stop watching his stream even before the wow stuff
only time im tuning in is whenever he do coding stream again

[charred wolf]

LMAO

[brisk sparrow]

I somewhat recall the entire section he just rewrote was done on stream originally (or at least part of it)

[terse pelican]

IIRC the Blockgame coding streams took a backseat was because people kept getting buttmad about changes/nerfs/Balance fixes

[jolly sky]

Lets try not to armchair psychoanalyse him. Let Dr.K do that, I know it hard because its interesting, and it's coming from a good place, but lets not attach emotions/behaviour to him, I don't think its a good idea.

[indigo wadi]

Ah right

[proper phoenix]

used to working in blizzards isnt that high of a praise in this days and ages anymore

[latent ridge]

I admire Dr.K ability to construct a plan and construct a conversation torwards a certain goal. he basically needed 20sec of thinking to construct his plan and he's been building the road to what he feels is the important part of Thor's issue in this situation. He's fascinating and I really appreciate what he's bringing with Thor

[indigo wadi]

Especially with everything that's come out, all that...spilled milk

[brisk sparrow]

Remember: parasocialism is bad for everyone involved

[jolly sky]

Yes

[opal bronze]

oh wow he really hit it there

[jolly sky]

Both positive and negative

[proper phoenix]

fancy words

[nova bough]

"i've worked at x company for x years" is common in corporate world. sometimes its super annoying and the person who says it isnt listening because of it

[charred wolf]

I can say fancier words.

[latent ridge]

and as someone who's been in therapy before, i've had conversations like he's having with Dr K right now. I feel a bit like a voyeur watching this stream, but this feels like it's an important thing to share with the world. more people would benefit from therapy overall

[indigo wadi]

I don't feel like a voyeur at all XD

[proper phoenix]

banana ?

[jolly sky]

Yea. He's quite the character, and does such an incredible job, and is someone the internet sorely needs

[charred wolf]

So true

[livid path]

The internet needs an army of hims

[proper phoenix]

i feel like watching someone walking on eggshell in real time

[indigo wadi]

He did a 3.5 hour stream with Amoranth the other day which I found absolutely wild.

[terse pelican]

It just shows that Streamers are just humans like the rest of us.

[charred wolf]

I kinda wish people on the internet did actually act like how they did in real life.

[proper phoenix]

amourath
iirc wasnt she the one who faked that whole thierf buggling stuff

[indigo wadi]

I've no idea about the thief stuff

I don't pay much attention to her tbh

[terse pelican]

Amouranth is not my kind of content, so yeh. I don't pay attention to her either

[proper phoenix]

i heard bits of it but iirc she fake a break in situation where she have to shoot the thief but its been proven to be fake or st

[indigo wadi]

The only time I really tuned in was when her hubby was apparently abusing and controlling her

[brisk sparrow]

The only thing I know amouranth for is being banned an absurd amount of times.

[livid path]

How many people actually listen to him though? Cause people are pretty resistant to new ideas usually and all they have to do is click hang up to get rid of him. At the same time though I imagine just blowing him off would probably invite a lot of backlash 🤔

[proper phoenix]

i also heard that some of this might also be fake

[latent ridge]

the conversation has an effect anyway

it might not be RIGHT AWAY

but it sticks arounds in your head anyway

[indigo wadi]

If that is actually fake, then...I will forget about it and move on

[terse pelican]

I think that DrK has more open minded viewers in general cause of the type of Content he does

[latent ridge]

it's a discussion worth having anyway

[livid path]

Well yeah birds of a feather flock together

[latent ridge]

we're always resistant at first to those kind of changes, because we feel attacked.

[opal bronze]

dr k really went in a bit there yikes

part of the process

[indigo wadi]

I do get what Dr K is saying

[opal bronze]

me too

[latent ridge]

Whilst i'm an avid viewer here and i've been on thor's side since the beginning.. Dr K is 100% right in what he's trying to tell Thor.

[indigo wadi]

I do think this was absolutely amplified because of it being a content guild. If I was just a no-name guild and this happened, it wouldn't have blown up

[tribal nest]

I’m actually curious, anyone know what this collab was actually supposed to be about? This is still interesting, but I’m just curious

[opal bronze]

they just get on call and talk

although i reckon they both knew the topic

[latent ridge]

And i've been struggling with the same kind of things he's telling Thor.

[opal bronze]

yes

[indigo wadi]

Personally, I never really viewed it as Thor not saying it the right way. I thought what he presented was good enough.

[livid path]

Oh yeah as someone who’s been around here for around a year, Thor makes mistakes all the time, but it’s his willingness to listen and understand to a reasonable argument that makes up for it. Not that he needs to imo, he’s already done more good in his life than I probably ever will and is still doing it, so his communication skills can’t make him bad in my book lol

[indigo wadi]

Especially since Internet deals in absolutes

[brisk sparrow]

At some point the attacks become blunt but annoying as hell

[indigo wadi]

And he admits to being wrong ALL the time

[latent ridge]

he does, but the way he does it is what some people have issues with, and they're not wrong. It's understandable.

[livid path]

This too, seen so many people try and say all they want is him to admit he was wrong but won’t accept anything less than him on his knees begging for forgiveness

[jolly sky]

Generally yes, just a large % of people are going to be there just to throw tomatoes.

[indigo wadi]

Which is absolutely stupid

[proper phoenix]

Basically an online therapy sessions would be the best way to put it ig ?

[latent ridge]

and that does not mean Thor is wrong also, it's about being a more functionning human being in regard to society, he doesn't NEED to change, he might want to have another perspective about the way he handles things though.

[livid path]

My guess is that It’s an emotional appeal, while he’s a logic based person so while it should be enough, it’s not enough for them

[indigo wadi]

Though when the initial thing is "thor ran and killed ppl" and you know you aren't in the wrong for it, there's no reason to say "im sorry" for that specific situation

[nova bough]

I think this steam happened because he wanted another perspective.

[high ember]

damn this is a mood

[jolly sky]

I love the "Ahamkara"

It's like, a ball of knotted emotion, like a hardened scar. If any of you have seen Avatar Legend of Aang, it's like how Aang had his Chakra blocked

[thick ledge]

Thor volunteered to talk to him about it ye

[indigo wadi]

oh hey it's not-mod Zafaroth

[proper phoenix]

Got demoted damn
Someone ate a bit too much bread

[latent ridge]

it's not the first time they've talked either

[terse pelican]

Zaf couldn't keep his hand out of the Bread Jar

[indigo wadi]

lol

[latent ridge]

and K made sure Thor was okay multiple time

[livid path]

Zaf ban this fool for his disrespectful tone

[latent ridge]

which is appreciated because it's a tough topic to have online in front of thousands of people like i mentionned before

[proper phoenix]

One bread too many

[indigo wadi]

[terse pelican]

Zafs motto is ''To bread or not to Bread, That is the question.''

[livid path]

Basically seems like Dr.K is the therapist for content creators, and when he speaks you listen

[jolly sky]

And this is exactly what Dr.K does, and has done with 100's of streamers, and earlier on with more...individual people

[latent ridge]

I need to watch him more

[jolly sky]

And it's such a good thing

It's Mental Health May for Dr.K, this is going to be a very good time to tune in

[indigo wadi]

Every month should be mental health month

[livid path]

Can’t wait for mental health June

lol

[latent ridge]

and mental health july

and august..

[indigo wadi]

and september

[latent ridge]

oh and don't forget october

[thick ledge]

It's not mental health month its

Hold on I forgot what lgbt this month is

[livid path]

Wont happen but would probably be really good for the world for a greater push for mental health every day globally

[proper phoenix]

Lol

[indigo wadi]

can't wait for mental health year 2026

[serene valley]

mental health century

[indigo wadi]

this is a puzzle, Thor, ignore chats spoilers

[serene valley]

ah crud we forgot decade

[terse pelican]

On a completely different topic, What's people's binge food of choice?

[livid path]

MENTAL HEALTH EXISTENCE

[high ember]

goddamn this is heavy
esp when ive stayed up too late

[opal bronze]

damn he took the chat away

[spiral moss]

I just got in here. What's the context

[indigo wadi]

Is it weird that i'm killing cultists during this stream?

[latent ridge]

tbh good. chat isn't helping much here

he needs 100% focus

[livid path]

Thors in content creator therapy

Aka Dr.K

[thick ledge]

Google says may is pan month

[indigo wadi]

YES

CELEBRATE ME

PEASANTS

[fallow fable]

this stream requires thinking and most viewers do not think

[opal bronze]

of all the people and i mean this positively thor is probably the content creator that needs this the most

[jolly sky]

Yea. I was surprised that Dr.K didn't ask him to close the chat as he often does when doing these streams

[proper phoenix]

choclate

[summer night]

https://tenor.com/view/not-worthy-hail-waynes-world-gif-10000321

[indigo wadi]

lol

[spiral moss]

Was this in relation to the thing about how he didn't do updates for a bit?

[terse pelican]

Just normal chocolate, Or a special kind, Like White, Orange flavoured?

[indigo wadi]

Has Dr K done a session with Sodapoppin?

[livid path]

In regards to?

[spiral moss]

His game

[indigo wadi]

no

[livid path]

No?

[spiral moss]

I've been away for quite a bit

[opal bronze]

ages ago i think

[livid path]

Heartbound is doing fine

This is in regards to WoW

[spiral moss]

so that was the last thing I recall a bit better

[indigo wadi]

OnlyFangs drama

[latent ridge]

I feel like Thor's gaze has changed

[proper phoenix]

Normal chocolate
Dark milk im allg with that
Any form as well
Milk cerear normal bar all that jazz

[latent ridge]

i hope he's okay

[proper phoenix]

Im a certified chocolate addict

[jolly sky]

Not as far as I've seen, but he's talked to a LOT of streamers

[opal bronze]

he saw reason in that and commited to pushing an update every month which is fair

[terse pelican]

You ever tried Orange flavoured Chocolate?

[nova bough]

its a therapy session on stream, so... yea i'd kinda expect a different response.

[indigo wadi]

no

orange chocolate is gross

an abomination

[terse pelican]

It's amazing.

[proper phoenix]

I have not
Seem like an odd combo

[fallow fable]

*not actual therapy

[arctic needle]

https://tenor.com/view/christmas-orange-chocolate-chocolates-gif-14747886

[terse pelican]

It might be, But it's honestly tasty.

[indigo wadi]

It's effectively therapy

[opal bronze]

scary ass chocolate

[jolly sky]

Yes and no, but he has to legally say that this isn't actually Therapy

[proper phoenix]

Still better than mint chocolate i reckon

I will say this once and again

[latent ridge]

it's 100% like a therapy session

been there, done that.

[proper phoenix]

Chocolate mint is better than mint chocolate

[opal bronze]

not actual therapy just a talk with a therapist

[terse pelican]

After 8?

[opal bronze]

no recurring sessions

[nova bough]

ok, its a stream where they talk about an issue that happened to thor with a licensed therepist so that he can understand what happened and other stuff

[latent ridge]

but yea it's suppose to be spread across weeks/months/year

[livid path]

He actually expressed interest in discussing certain philosophy at a later time

[proper phoenix]

I want my chocolate to taste lile chocolate with a touch of mint not mint with a touch of chocolate
Simple thing in life

[jolly sky]

It's more that, he's giving someone a perspective from someone who has a wealth of knowledge of therapy.

It's like, talking to a mechanic about your car.

[terse pelican]

That's fair.

[spiral moss]

ohh wait is this the only fangs incident?

[terse pelican]

Yes.

[brisk sparrow]

Yes

[opal bronze]

he said f word he really hates that

[indigo wadi]

That is the most emotional based answer ive seen Thor give

[spiral moss]

ahh ok, took a bit of brain digging

[jolly sky]

It's about a LOT of things.

[spiral moss]

its cuz someone mentioned WoW a bit earlier

[latent ridge]

Honestly, it's not about the onlyfangs thing.

it really isn't.

[terse pelican]

Partially is

[indigo wadi]

it's from the fallout of it

[latent ridge]

it was the starting subject but it's much more now

[opal bronze]

genuinely got my attention because he never says f word

[spiral moss]

it's deeper

[shadow spade]

I think the problem Thor isn't getting is that when he goes "and then they became unhinged", people feel like he's attacking them, and then they double down

[jolly sky]

Really it's deeper than that. It used the Only Fangs incident as a diving board

[indigo wadi]

@opal bronze wait really? I could of sworn he says it often

[jolly sky]

oops wrong reply source sorry Myke

[opal bronze]

im taking this information from what i remember and also when thor said he rarely says f word unless he's angry or at least he rarely says it

[terse pelican]

I think it's contextually out of place compared to when he normally uses it

[indigo wadi]

Because it is unhinged. Sending death threats to a content creator is 100% unhinged

[indigo wadi]

ahh

[brisk sparrow]

To anyone really

[indigo wadi]

Yeah

[opal bronze]

true, but that message goes out to ALL

[nova bough]

the internet can be unhinged, full stop

[shadow spade]

Yes, but the problem is that it's not just the people making death threats who feel attacked

[proper phoenix]

Most normal league chat experience

[proper phoenix]

It is unhinged

[spiral moss]

100%

[indigo wadi]

Imagine feeling attacked after someone defends themselves for being attacked.

[brisk sparrow]

Part of it is because it grew way too quick for its own good IMO

[indigo wadi]

Like...what backwards logic is that?

[drifting silo]

This section has been really insightful for like human psychology

[shadow spade]

How do you think basically every war in history started?

[rotund vine]

Dr. is COOKING

[terse pelican]

People aren't generally receptive to negative feedback, And it causes people to ''Turtle'' in an attempt to defend themselves from reality.

[drifting silo]

and I'm starting to understand why this "situation" has been going on for so long even though the internet is forgettful

[jolly sky]

I would highly recommend Dr.K to any single person. It's fascinating, educational, both in understanding other people, and yourself

[indigo wadi]

an unhinged tiny man ranting

[nova bough]

no, it isnt that.a lot of it is the internet grants anonymity, and there is very little reprocussions to unhinged behavior, unlike IRL

[indigo wadi]

Have you seen karen videos? the unhinged IRL do get away with it

[terse pelican]

That's a bit reductive to history to say

[indigo wadi]

most of the time

[opal bronze]

not gonna say like i knew the issue but i knew it wasn't all one sided

[indigo wadi]

Am I wrong though? I know there's greater context, but still

[nova bough]

yeah i have. and karens irl also get cancelled/lose thier jobs, etc

[shadow spade]

Keep in mind that you're all doing this as well right now

[proper phoenix]

Thata basically how most conflict goes no
I attack u u feel attacked and start attacking back
Then its my turn to feel attack and we do this again and again until shit goes out of control

[indigo wadi]

Some do, yes, but not all

[shadow spade]

I said "Thor isn't getting something", and you all jump to defend him. But I did not attack him

[terse pelican]

I get what you mean, But the problem is that we shouldn't be reductive cause it diminishes what we should learn from history and leaves out VERY important context

[nova bough]

and sometimes people on the internet get proper consequenses to their actions, but not most.

[indigo wadi]

to be fair, i was trying to be funny

[serene valley]

AH ADS

[indigo wadi]

just sub bro

[shadow spade]

(Also, I am a two year subscriber with no plans on quitting, not someone who joined to dunk on anyone.

[peak skiff]

I think what Thor does best is save emotional responses for emotionally positive moments. I've seen him have emotional reactions to amazingly positive moments on stream (large hype chains, cool tts, etc), and so he doesn't have time to make bs emotional appeals to a crowd that is out for blood

[terse pelican]

Yeah that's understandable. It just went past my head

[drifting silo]

I really hadnt thought about it

[indigo wadi]

He becomes a Mime in Expedition 33 putting up a wall

[terse pelican]

The Mime Army will rise.

[opal bronze]

because thors right, drama does blow over after maximum a month, so at most i drew it up to "some people dont like how thor comes off in the way he speaks" but i couldnt tell you specifics

[gaunt remnant]

"The problem Thor isn't getting--" Yes. That's how psychology works. It's called Cognitive Dissonance. There's no need to add anything afterwards, it's how humans function.

You have a belief that you think is true because it comes from your life experience, and you are presented to a conflicting idea to your belief, your brain will try its best to contradict it because that's just how the brain works. Everyone works like that.

Eveyone goes through this, and Thor is going through this. It's super hard to break through it, like insanely hard

[shadow spade]

Exactly. Dr K is walking him through it live on stream and it's fascinating

[indigo wadi]

Me almost everyday when I'm told one thing and a month later I'm told the opposite

[spiral moss]

this is a fascinating conversation to have live

[opal bronze]

yeah, therapists are trained to do this job, to help people walk through and see themselves, so i have faith

[indigo wadi]

Thor right now trying to mentally parry this like in expedition 33 XD

[opal bronze]

honestly i would love thor to have another session offline to really hammer home more sensitive things that shouldnt be clipped

[gaunt remnant]

He is, but no on purpose. And cognitive dissonance is even more reinforced when there is trauma, stress and/or pressure behind it. It's a defense mechanism, and having this conversation live on Twitch certainly does not help

[shadow spade]

Exactly what Maros says

[gaunt remnant]

I'm sure if this was a private therapy session, Thor might have already gotten it

[opal bronze]

yes

[tribal nest]

Yeah, that’s how I feel about it too

[gaunt remnant]

But he is still trying to contradict it, because he is under a lot of pressure

[jolly sky]

I'd like that for Thor as well. That choice is entirely up to him. Quite often, Dr.K will give the person "homework" to do as well, and will often check up on them.

[opal bronze]

but this being public will hopefully improve his image a bit

[shadow spade]

If this was private, Dr K could use stronger language

But the problem is stronger language would also feel like an attack that would trigger an automatic defense

[spiral moss]

having the audience here is adding an extra layer to it

[opal bronze]

yes, but therapists know really good push and pull

[indigo wadi]

GOOD therapists

[gaunt remnant]

He is reading chat a lot, and I think Dr. K should impose on him to not read chat because it only adds more stress on top of what Thor is already experiencing by talking about this on stream

[proper phoenix]

This and also knowing that thousands of ppl are watching this live rn are gonna make him react even harder than it normally would

[shadow spade]

Bait out a counter attack and then point it out for what it was

[opal bronze]

therapy sesson in a roman colosseum

[opal bronze]

for sure

[jolly sky]

A good therapist will absolutely know when, and how to push and pull. There's a point where they want to draw out an emotion, 'cause thats how they'll know they're on the right path.

[shadow spade]

I've been in therapy myself before, I would never dare do what thor is doing live on a stream in front of seven thousand people

[keen cradle]

I feel Thor on this so hard

[high ember]

same

[keen cradle]

Literally been asked "can't you just apologize and be done with it"

Like no?

[opal bronze]

everyone hates the disingenuous ukulele thor

[proper phoenix]

Ukulele apologies video when

[indigo wadi]

video plz, must see

[opal bronze]

quick what instruments does he know

[jolly sky]

And not only Thor, everyone hates to see, or hear someone apologise for something they don't need to apologise for

[tribal nest]

I also feel like it would have been better for the explanation to go first, and then end with the ‘me and everyone makes mistakes. I was being smug’

[opal bronze]

not everyone

[gaunt remnant]

In a way yes. Because you learn having to not care about it at some point. If this goes on for so long and people keep piling up on it, just say "Yeah it's my bad" and you'll most likely forget about it in less than a week. You don't always have to fight all of your battles, and that's something I struggle a lot with myself.

[keen cradle]

I also see how this can feel disingenuous because it's just not the chronological order of what happened

[jolly sky]

Well, everyone who is, not looking for negativity

[shadow spade]

It very much did not help that the inital response was signalboosting stuff way out of context to start with

[drifting silo]

I hate the ukulele
Steven Universe go to hell >:3

[jolly sky]

Yea, it was colossal

[gaunt remnant]

"Disingenuous" when talking about the Ukulele is an understatement

[gentle mortar]

Oh shit, i think I see it

[opal bronze]

dr k spittin

[proper phoenix]

I shall expect a ukulele apology video coming up soon

[drifting silo]

Thats such a crazy statement but makes so much sense to me

[buoyant arrow]

What Dr. K is describing sounds like something I used to do (and sometimes still do). I get in my explanation tank, and aim my facts cannon at the others face, saying we should talk. It can feel super overbearing sometimes and can complicate matters far more than nessecary.

[keen cradle]

I've been thor in this situation (but on a much, much smaller scale) and Dr. K is calling me out so hard

[shadow spade]

When thor gets it, it's going to feel like that gif from Scanners

[jolly sky]

Hah, welcome to one of the reasons why these streams are good

[opal bronze]

dr k is explaining it to me even i get it

harder for thor since he's in the middle

[jolly sky]

You quite often see things they're talking about, that you end up seeing in yourself.

[opal bronze]

but i see what he means

[indigo wadi]

STOP THIS

also #thorchan

[gaunt remnant]

I think in Thorchan it might be taken out of context

[drifting silo]

The hair blends in too lmao

[summer night]

i spat my drink

[terse pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/cursed-dean-winchester-jensen-ackles-supernatural-spell-gif-20357067

[indigo wadi]

okay, wtf is wrong with her arms?

[serene valley]

to me it comes across as a bit weird to meme about but that's just me

[jolly sky]

I also think that's a bit....too...out of touch

[gentle mortar]

the image feels baked

making it weird

[jolly sky]

I feel like making a meme about a moment like this is too far personally. Maybe it's just me.

[summer night]

https://tenor.com/view/rour-ridiculous-no-nope-gif-19059474

[dire burrow]

I hate this

[opal bronze]

evil dr k be like "chat lets do a poll is he right or nah"

[keen cradle]

Thor being literally me

[shadow spade]

"The most objective way to communicate" is the part that feels wrong, because everyone has their own version of "most objective"

[dry osprey]

Dont give chat power

[keen cradle]

I have (accidentally, and painfully slowly) killed relationships with people because I subdue my emotions for conflict resolution, because emotions are messy

[proper phoenix]

Why its so detailed 😭
The arm the upper chest
Look like he is having a massive shit or st

[gaunt remnant]

That's just how I cope, I make dumb jokes to relax myself, and sometimes a bit out of touch indeed

[dry osprey]

It ends weird

[hollow glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/the-lion-king-scar-what-have-you-done-what-did-you-do-disney-gif-19870160

[spiral moss]

he got me there, I got tired of communicating based on emotions

[gaunt remnant]

I got tired of communicating~~ based on emotions~~

[keen cradle]

Had an ex tell me "I wish you would just yell at me" like huh???

Did not compute

[shadow spade]

Just the claim "I did this in the most objective way" rubs people wrong because they are not feeling it is an objective statement

[nova bough]

in corporate america, communicating without emotion is more or less a must.

wonder how much that ties in

[opal bronze]

and thats when it slips into the emotional

[gaunt remnant]

That is something I understand and it's a super interesting psychology thing, but I don't want to armchair psychology because I just am interested a lot in it and am in no way an expert on it at all

[indigo wadi]

HE DID NOT JUST USE THE CHESS ACCUSATION

[hollow glacier]

I hope someone clipped that

[woeful geyser]

that almost made me spit out my drink

[dire burrow]

NOT THE CHESS BUTTPLUG REFERENCE

[proper phoenix]

Aw hell nah

[opal bronze]

he wouldnt care i doubt it

[keen cradle]

Brooooo I just got so caught off guard by that reference

[opal bronze]

id care a little if that was true

[dark kraken]

is this dr k guy a real doctor

[terse pelican]

Yes.

[gaunt remnant]

A doctor of psychology

[spiral moss]

jesus christ I was not expecting that, it short circuited my brain

[shadow spade]

That was probably the point Soji

[terse pelican]

https://healthygamer.gg/dr-alok-kanojia

[keen cradle]

I feel like it ties more into something else. In one of the previous Dr. K streams, Thor mentioned that his mother was a more emotionally charged person and it led to problems. I can wholeheartedly attribute my tendency to subdue emotions in favor of logic for conflict resolution to that exact same problem in my childhood.

[gaunt remnant]

Oh he's a psychiatrist, not a psychologist my bad

[nova bough]

yeah i feel this as well. didnt know that about thor, or forgot it.

[shadow spade]

While not every psychiatrist is also a psychologist, every therapist is usually both

[dark kraken]

what is this conversation trying to accomplish

[slim bluff]

I got curious and peeked at LSF. It was a mistake.

[jolly sky]

Understanding.

[shadow spade]

Which one, the one in chat or the one on stream, Frog?

[nova bough]

just forget it exists, LSF is rarely a good experience

[dark kraken]

the stream between thor and this doctor

[jolly sky]

Please, for yours and other peoples sake, remove it from your history and memory

[indigo wadi]

LFS going off already eh?

[gaunt remnant]

It's a therapy session trying to understand Thor's pov on all the drama and why people keep accusing him to this day, tell him he's wrong, that he's a bad person etc... when he hasn't done anything really wrong

[drifting silo]

Damn we half way the final goal?

[jolly sky]

Please, not a therapy session

[nova bough]

it does feel like one though.

[jolly sky]

He legally has to say that

[indigo wadi]

it effectively is

[opal bronze]

quote that

[gaunt remnant]

Legally it isn't, but it's a therapy session

[opal bronze]

"mods get a ton of hate"
"cool" - dr k

not serious i just think its goofy

[shadow spade]

It's about Dr K explaining to Thor what he has been doing that's keeping the hate reaction going,

[latent ridge]

I just checked LSF, obviously the top post is mocking Pirate. so predictable it's insane

[slim bluff]

Dr K made a comment that I liked earlier. He's not there to rehab Thor's PR, just to have a discussion

[jolly sky]

It's more like, going to a car mechanic to talk about, and understand your car.

But instead, it's your mind.

[nova bough]

is....that not therapy in a nutshell

LOL

[jolly sky]

There's a subtle difference

[spiral moss]

especially on the internet, people almost demand an emotional response

[nova bough]

eeeehh h

[terse pelican]

The distinction is both monetary & Legal

[drifting silo]

its "not legal advice" all again

[terse pelican]

Pretty much

[proper phoenix]

Hey wut da ful man i have that meme u stole it

[shadow spade]

Do we really want a cascade of "you stole my meme" like this was a manwha aggregator comment section?

[flint sinew]

i see automod chatter

[gaunt remnant]

Oh no what has chatter done

[proper phoenix]

[opal bronze]

nuh uh!

[proper phoenix]

Its all dan fault i think

I heard it from somewhere

[fallow fable]

we are pirates after all

[terse pelican]

Why see hostility where there is none?

[proper phoenix]

[drifting silo]

Rip 4chan - "Chicken Jockey"

[jolly sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/987123333659250688/1327840783579222127/jeopardy_what.gif

[keen cradle]

That was me my bad, I was saying I got distracted for a second and the stream switched topics to a certain medical condition and triggered automod

[livid path]

The temptation to say an automod word to send a secret message to the mods in the rest of it is ever present yet I must resist

[proper phoenix]

[flint sinew]

approaching your space

[opal bronze]

tell me which words

[terse pelican]

Bird is the word.

[shadow spade]

I wasn't seeing hostility, I was seeing what looked like the start of one of those "Imma steal your meme" memes, except in reverse

[opal bronze]

o ma ma mow

[livid path]

****** **** *********** *** ***** and *********************

[gaunt remnant]

I feel like Dr. K will have to give a stern talk to his chat after this stream

[livid path]

aw discord formatting took away most of my stars

[drifting silo]

I think mods shouldnt be able to see auto mod

[proper phoenix]

Bed time

[drifting silo]

I dont think its fair

[serene valley]

they kinda need to

[livid path]

I’m not sure you understand the purpose of moderators

[gaunt remnant]

It is fair, we can send mods secret messages like this

[serene valley]

if someone says some heinous stuff they might have to get the boot

[woeful geyser]

monkey's paw: granted, but now the automod AI decides your fate

[dire burrow]

@drifting silo Yes.

[fallow fable]

no one tell bro about dms

[dire burrow]

Can't believe you said that.

We have to ban you now /s

[proper phoenix]

Rip

[warped venture]

[proper phoenix]

[drifting silo]

Frick

[livid path]

Oh god

Too many blueberries here

[gaunt remnant]

Yes but DMs are so yesterday, secret automod messages are the new trend

[livid path]

I gotta run

[shadow spade]

Mods have to be able to see automod because automod is sometimes wrong and needs to be overturned

[livid path]

Mods have to see everything

Because it’s their job

[warped venture]

it catches the gross stuff and spam so we gotta look

[gaunt remnant]

Some say they even see your keyboard to ban you before you press enter when typing

[flint sinew]

[undone dragon]

like mucking out a stall

[flint sinew]

violet

[livid path]

No that’s Microsoft

Or wait no that’s deepseek

Wrong thing

Probably Microsoft too tho

[drifting silo]

No I think thats psycho pass

[woeful geyser]

does Microsoft understand consent? Your options are: "Yes" and "Ask me again in three days"

[keen cradle]

Wait have we given the mods bread while thor isn't looking

[gaunt remnant]

I am not giving my bread, it is mine

The mods will have to take it from me

[keen cradle]

🥐

[shadow spade]

I wish Microsoft still made keyboards. 😦

[gaunt remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/baguette-knife-gif-27383749

[indigo wadi]

Tortilla wraps aren't bread, right?

[livid path]

can’t give them break so instead I offer up a Niko emoji

You’re welcome

[drifting silo]

Exp 33 be like

[drifting silo]

No youre wrong they are bread

A burrito is a sandwich

[indigo wadi]

A burrito is a wellington

[hollow glacier]

if made of grain, is bread.

[keen cradle]

I present

[drifting silo]

That implies porridge is bread

[keen cradle]

🌽 Bread

[hollow glacier]

Bread like goop

[indigo wadi]

Porridge is bread soup

[keen cradle]

I keep tuning back into the stream at the wrong time holy

[drifting silo]

I mean you put bytter on it

[spiral moss]

goddammit, I forgot about that whole trend. why did they have to make me remember

[serene valley]

oh gosh

sunburned butt

[terse pelican]

Jesus...

That's both funny and tragic

[drifting silo]

Twitch has been more unusable than usual

[serene valley]

[spiral moss]

I don't even want to imagine

[gaunt remnant]

You will always be reminded what the Internet is

You are not allowed to have hope for it

[keen cradle]

This stream is making me want to make a Dr. K out of context video

[hollow glacier]

New meaning to ring of fire... burnt bung sounds horrible

[kindred holly]

Wtf?

[serene valley]

that was even just weird in context

[drifting silo]

Chat MD is great tho :(

[spiral moss]

chat md

[kindred holly]

When did that happen? I'm scared to know

[serene valley]

https://tenor.com/view/beavis-and-butthead-bunghole-crazy-i-am-the-great-cornholio-cornholio-gif-16611113

[hollow glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-fire-hell-flame-screaming-gif-17747945

[woeful geyser]

2022, it was a tiktok hype

[gaunt remnant]

Why does he look fleshy

[terse pelican]

TikTok trends...

[drifting silo]

wait we have information thor doesn?

we arent a hive mind???

[kindred holly]

No wonder I never heard of it until now. I'm not on tiktok

[hollow glacier]

You dont like fleshy flaming elmo??

[serene valley]

I've never heard of this either tbh

[spiral moss]

it was quite the time...

[serene valley]

but I can believe it

[drifting silo]

but thats what thor told me when I singed in for the cult

[serene valley]

sounds like it'd be a thing

[gaunt remnant]

We do. We know who made us this way, and Thor doesn't because he keeps asking

[drifting silo]

The answer is so far but so close to him

extremely close id say

[indigo wadi]

almost on the nose

[tribal nest]

Too late, LSF already did

[drifting silo]

Omg Meatball

[hollow glacier]

This last bit sounds alot like FMA The first rule of alchemy, also known as the "Law of Equivalent Exchange," states that "human kind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain something of equal value must be lost". This principle means that something cannot be created from nothing; to gain something, an equal value must be given up or lost.

and yes tere was a copy and paste there

[drifting silo]

Yeah how you need a person and a dog to make a talking dog

[indigo wadi]

that's a beautiful bond

[keen cradle]

Some of Dr. K's chat has me concerned they missed the entire point of the convo and/or listening comprehension

[indigo wadi]

naturally

[gaunt remnant]

Chat hoppers

[hollow glacier]

At the moment we have thor and a cat.

[indigo wadi]

because ppl don't; want to get the point

[gaunt remnant]

They don't care, they're here to stir shit

A lot of those people came in like they are watching a show, and not a conversation

[indigo wadi]

@hollow glacier Thor has requested someone draw him as a character from the shadows

[hollow glacier]

I have the art ability of a energy drink fueled toddler.

[spiral moss]

a lot of people just hop into the chats to stir up trouble

[indigo wadi]

@hollow glacier perfect

[drifting silo]

Ooo blockgame dev been a while

also makes for chill streams

[spiral moss]

he really said we smell

[keen cradle]

Is he wrong though

[woeful geyser]

i'm actually curious if the blue prince dev will eventually feel forced to give people a pointer

[indigo wadi]

@minor nymph Great chat. I love that you aren't afraid to talk about these kinds of things, regardless of fallout

[spiral moss]

definitely like that about Thor, he's willing to have the conversations

[gaunt remnant]

Honestly watching Thor going through this gave me second-hand anxiety. Being in this situation sounds horrifyingly stressful

[fallow fable]

thats called empathy. but its ok he is fine

[jolly sky]

Personal props to Thor for doing this not only for himself, but for the community. It's massive, but yet is either often underappreciated or misunderstood just how valuable this is for everyone who wants to engage with it in a meaningful way.

[drifting silo]

The insight this chat with dr k gave me is truly interesting

[slow veldt]

yeah this was an excellent talk that i feel like has the potential to help a lot of folks sort of process and re-connect to how they view things, very challenging but good convo

[woeful geyser]

dr. k is elaborating further on the "missing missing reasons" atm, as well

[jolly sky]

He's an incredible source of knowledge, about topics that are not talked about enough.

[keen cradle]

Definitely helped reaffirm the idea that I need to go back to therapy

[gaunt remnant]

We all do

[rotund vine]

Dr.k gave a great read, check this out
https://www.issendai.com/psychology/estrangement/missing-missing-reasons.html

[keen cradle]

It gave me some good talking points to bring up for whenever I do, and there's probably more I missed, will have to check out the vod

[indigo wadi]

Why is there a disconnect between Thor's smugness and the response Thor got?

That I don't get

[gaunt remnant]

He is explaining it right now

[spiral moss]

definitely gonna give the vod a rewatch and catch the start of it all

[woeful geyser]

goddamnit i opened that html and I feel like i'm back in college again

[indigo wadi]

So the disconnect IS the reason?

[opal bronze]

because he was logically explaining why but the way that came off didnt sit right with people emotionally

like it came off as more smugness

even though logically it makes sense

[gaunt remnant]

The disconnect is the cognitive dissonance. It's the brain trying to defend the belief being challenged

[opal bronze]

which dr k theorizes is why the hate has persisted

[spiral moss]

People will often interpret things that come from a logical standpoint, as smug and that person putting themselves on a higher pedastal, when that isn't the case at all

[indigo wadi]

Okay, so if Thor came off as smug, so what? Why does that drive so much hate?

[woeful geyser]

because they don't like the way the message was delivered, so they ignored the meaning of the message

[opal bronze]

i cant explain the death threats but thats why the hate

[keen cradle]

Dr. K calling me out on this side too ooof

[indigo wadi]

So that deserves 100 days of hate? Christ I hate the internet

[opal bronze]

yes

not yes as in i agree its justified

[keen cradle]

Dr. K maintains that none of this is justified and that he doesn't deserve it, but that's the explanation for how it may have come to pass

[opal bronze]

yes as in thats why

[indigo wadi]

George Carlin is right about mobs of ppl

[drifting silo]

Yeah

[gaunt remnant]

George Carlin was right about a lot of things

[jolly sky]

I think anyone who has questions should really watch the VoD rather than getting any of our perspectives of it. Not to offend anyone, but we shouldn't be armchairing

[woeful geyser]

ah

wrong person to reply to but

[spiral moss]

If Carlin was still around, he'd be having a field day with the recent state of the world

[indigo wadi]

absolutely

[woeful geyser]

was supposed to reply to Myke, my bad sockpuppet

[opal bronze]

im like a mother bird rn im regurgitating

[gaunt remnant]

But think about this. George Carlin was loved because he was a comedian. If he was a philosopher, he would've been hated