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puppet party county?
Temu grover
ebay grover
Tornadie
WOAH
Safety frog 
THis is what i look like irl
oh thank god, safty frog
You have a beard
Tirdnadie
zaf, why is your head so long
GOTTEM
Got lots to think about
Racist too!
Safety frog has feats
guy has a fivehead
We can power scale safety frog
He has the ability to freeze time outside of a localized area
Can she beat goku? 
Very common meme around cute characters
just like hello kitty
that's right
Add group teleportation to safety frogs feats list
Nice voice crack zaf
Tho pluth tho
ok the kids clothes look like the 80s or even early 90s
reminds me of the "now for a word from us kids" segments in the early arthur seasons
Based on the teacher 90s
90s, not enough neon for 80s
We get lots of safety educational videos its really fun to see how they try and make them fun
Safety frogs group teleport ability seems to require a verbal component
Just lay in a ditch 
lie down in the ditch, so they can find your body better
May be a weakness
Thats a emote
Aaaaahhh, the duality of Thor... "Monster Hunter is out, let's stream for 15:30 hours" - "My Body is doing the check engine light thing"
Maybe a little misheard 
gulp
Over worked himself i was expecting it hope he feels better
yeah, same
is that how long the last stream lasted?
Want to join us in thor alternative media in the meantime?
at least that's how long the vod is
a 22 hour stream, and the very next one is 15 hours. maybe he should cut back a bit
Alternative not related 
AHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH - donald duck
Yethen karfooly
If safety frog can stop time
Also donald duck
Then can't he <insert list of things he can do>
But does this beat goku? 
Yes
that puppet company is STILL GOING
Almost 90s darn
look at that pretty dress
yapyapyap
You have to start somewhere
safety frog has a back story
Also crosseyed
is the ducks name...dicky...?
Yes
they've been going since 1978
thats a choice.
Steve
Nuck nuck nuck
7 1/2, he's almost dead for a dog.
the pick up line
pfft
This is why dicky the duck has arson charges 
Thematch is sapient and makes fire puns
lets not altert the grown up in the house
A fiery personality
Did she just say hello to herself
instead tell her there is a sale
We already have the adult
Safety frog!
Also, if things need to be used by adults, they're supposed to learn how to use them themselves
And that comes by trying
Therefore hence thus, the kids should light matches
Yoo hoo!
THEY DID THE EMOTE
roll credits *ding*
They love their 7tv emotes
yay
Ahhhh
Open using a door stop? 
NEW FEAT
go to your special place 
All kids need to know school and home.
And meet others
She has a school trapped inside a magical artifact called her magic fly swatter
Growing up in Alaska we kept our coats on the backs of our chairs if we were doing a fire drill
'sulphur head'
Stuck in a Demi plane to demonstrate for the end of time
'flint head'
tends to be a nescessity when it gets as cold as it can here
Yeah this is for rural mid east America mostly though it probably proliferated past that

ONG
Break time
👋 ping you back?
Recently though there was a school bus fire in the US. Hated the bus evacuation drills at the time though
I'm gonna lurk gongo and snooze
I had fun jumping out the back back in the day
Nearly 4am
👋 rest well i had fun
was just really damn cold whenever we did them
you always knew they were happening though, busses parked farther apart than normal
We did them in 110+ heat so i getcha
Yeah the special “bus day” line
In elementary school our busses had the middle door on them
got new ones in middle school
Ah we had the escape windows
actually dissapointed we never got to use it
Same but also how would it really work i always wondered
flat fronts in middle school, regular ones in middle and high
Yeah they decommissioned a lot of those old kid tosser busses
never rode on a bus with seatbelts though. Don't even know if the current busses have them
I graduated in 2013 for refrence
I heard the around the waist seat belts were removed cause it was causing to much harm no idea if they put in actual over the should seatbelts havent been in the school scene in years since all my younger family is adults now or just to young
Let me research real quick
Nah, moving on to more boring shows and some work now
I was also never cool enough for the cool seat
rode in it a few times on field trips though. Tended to go to the first person onto the bus on field trips
Nah they just baby proof the buses more now no seatbelts as it’s apparently “safer” huh not much changes
Oh the very back near the escape?
yeah the single person one
Okay have fun.
oh this one looks particularly crap
Oh nanny lin
ooh we got an actual year
She loves making these
the animation is somehow good and bad at the same time
ok I was gone to get ready for bed and I came back to early 90s computer graphic shenanigains
The magic crayon nice reference
😁 its a power point btw she can draw on the pages
its uh... it's something
made with an amiga apparently
There is basically no script and these are stories she would adlib for her grandchildren
ok thats kinda sweet
Yeah nanny lin is very wholesome gongo very soul-filled
its a nice change of pace from the cult
Yeah basics but its got decent effort put in
trippy
Yeah thats gongo for you, you never know whats next really
Growing as we watch
thank you, you too
will join another day enjoying this
Kids driving farm equipment this cant turn out bad 
youtube recommended wants me to catch up on the lore
Oh the sweet memories of hubris from last spring. 
hello hubris
Heads up. Someone made a Twitter post about Thor supposedly DMCAing him. It's getting a lot of attention. We might end up with a bunch of bad actors in here again.
In what way lol
Like did they do something dmcaable
Or is it just a bad actor making a DMCA in thors name
I wonder if thor even нæì
i don't know. But by the looks, the person just reupload some videos to twitter without any interaction (or ask for permission).
of course they will take it down, like everybody else would do. Doesn't matter if you reupload stuff to youtube, tiktok, insta, etc.
No it appears yeet reacted to thor's content and then got a dmca take down from thor directly. Could be lying, but I doubt it.
Also, hasan finally being banned is funny
thanks for taking it out of general
don't look much like a react. A sentence and a reupload of a clip is not really a react. More like a reupload.
And they strike any reuploads that have no permission 😉
also could be a 3rd party doing claims to shoot against PS.
which is illegal, but also i think not hard to do
which is why i said "unknown" for the moment
non-thor drama though, the stuff that happened to valkyrae and co. the other night is absolutely insane
how did we get to this level as a society
''React'' Is a broad term, and there are cases where reupload with a changed title is sufficient, Since it can be considered ''Transformative''
i dont think this is permanent. likely a week. hes been banned 5 times
it takes a lot to get permabanned from twitch
What happened?
okay, so i could take a movie, like Shrek, and put a single sentence at the end and upload it as a react...
i don't think so. There are a lot of verdicts on EU and US side that state against such things. In Germany there is a verdict of the BGH state you have to analyse it critically and add valuable information to it. That's why any big channel with reacts in germany ask for permission. Smaller ones often get claimed (most of the time it's no take down, just a claim, so the money goes to the owner).
There was a case a while back between... Two Youtubers, where 'Youtuber A' took the 'Youtuber B's video ( Short Video IIRC ) And reuploaded it with a new title, Youtuber B sued Youtuber A, and did the whole DMCA/Copyright thing sued and all. Case got dismissed cause it was considered Transformative
Gotta love the courts not keeping up with tech
could always happen. In the end it's in the hand of the court. If they decide that.
Yeah, which is the main issue, Fair use/Transformative is a very broad spectrum
she and some others were doing an IRL stream and a stream stalker started following them and threatening to k*** them
1: insane behavior
2: if you're that big, maybe doing an irl stream is a bad idea.for safety reasons.
Like yes it shouldn't happen but at this point, nothing is safe
i think the general opinion is "get a security team" but theres also other people who are victim blaming
Security team is also a good idea if they can afford it.
apparently one of the girls was ready to square up
its VALKYRAE
I'm aware
good for her, but its a shame it was needed at all 
Doesn't mean I know her Financials
either way, qtcinderella responded with the team she uses for things
so hopefully stuff like this either doesnt happen again or is stopped on the spot
I assume she's well off but Security teams are expensive
Parasocial Desperation.
They aren't taught how to deal with rejection
So they think lashing out is okay
what the.
why are people like this...
I'd argue one security guy would be enough
Alot of people feel emboldened and would be dissuaded by one intimidating professional in some shades
one guy many muscles
Could even make him a character on your stream, The Guy
Just silent nearby, huge, shades
In a suit
I was going for The Professional kind of look
i getcha
yes!
Or just pay some Statham lookalike to stand around in a suit.
Remember this guy
Wonder how he's living life now
How's the security guard with the moves DOING
No, but you can take a section of that movie to use on the news. DMCA is for when someone reuploads your content with the purpose of having people watch it instead of the original content
I saw the post and I dunno if it was fair use or not cos the clip has been vapourized
the germany fact is interesting
that you have to add something of value and analyze it for it to not be a violation
That makes sense
Dunno how it works in America though, I haven't read the law, but the spirit of the law is that you're taking it down so people don't use someone's channel to watch your content instead of yours, or use their channel to watch your movie instead of buying/renting it etc.
so like, if someone put the entirety of bee movie up and had subway surfers on the side the entire time what does that count as
since i think some tiktok accounts were doing that
or like how some bands dmca react youtubers when they react to the entirety of a song, some won't do it if you put breaks in, others don't care in the slightest
Germany's IP law is very difficult it's why a lot of Warhammer fan films had to be shut down because they were being made in Germany and it would have given the film makers a part share in the IP if they'd been allowed to release it
huh. thats a neat fact.
that and GW is known for being kind of a jerk to people anyway
A lot of that is to try and dodge automated content id checking
Same as how with Thor's shorts they deep fry it and slightly speed up/slow down
"deep fry it" is a good descriptor i like it
the warhammer thing has me wondering if all the players on the Germany 40k and AoS teams are super strict about only having GW models at tournaments
It's why all those clips of TV shows and movies have some other music not not in the scene playing
i have to remember to ask them this year
if its not a GW tournament, a lot of people have 3D or partially-3D printed models
No because it's not fair use
As you could watch it instead of streaming it, for example
Outlandish examples like this don't help anyone
i was genuinely curious, idk how this stuff works
What counts as transformative is very nebulous and pretty much ends up as "it is what a court says it is"
as seen above by my comment about react youtubers with metal music
If someone uploads a clip from Thor just as is yes it's not fair use
'cos they might catch it as short form from a channel that isn't his and thus violating fair use since he's not getting traction
And the US courts particularly have been actively making it fuzzier
we're good at that
The twitter account in question seems to just upload videos as is without edditing
Except for a text blurb saying what the video is about
Courts rarely come into it
Platforms are expected to police themselves
That honestly might be worse than courts at this point
Depends on where you're at
As courts have backlog
Middle of Arkansas? Courts are probably better
New York? Expect to wait years
Touché
And mostly they tend to but there's more then just YouTube/twitch etc when it comes to IP and those do go to court and then the decisions on those cases end up being the prevailing law on IP.
I saw another of the videos the guy on twitter posted and it's literally just a reupload with another blurb
That ain't fair use lol
They should've linked the original
But then he would have to show support for Thor and the internet just can’t have that
So we end up with a lot of case law that's meant to be binding but that often is completely unsuitable for the way digital platforms operate
idk I don't think he's targetting Thor like other people that do internet hate
It's just Yet Another Content Leech that preys on anything they can find for clicks
Thor's had plenty of copycats LONG before all the mess
Oh this I know, but I think we rarely saw people make Twitter madness over it
Unless I entirely missed it which is possible
the thing is. Thor has taken down the VoD, also Clips were disabled for a few streams as well.
First question would be, how do they get the video in the first place without breaking ToS.
Second, they reuploaded the videos without any new content and just added a single line to message itself. If this is enough would be up to a court to decide.
And in germany we have fair use. 15 seconds of any video(or moving pictures) or Audio, or 160 symbols of text or 128kb of pictures/images.
There are periods where I try to not use anything
If Thor took down the VoD then idk how it works
Okay now that’s a good point
'cos it's not DMCA anymore since the original content doesn't exist anymore
Becomes idk defamatory?
screen capture and record the stream
Technically the content still exist in some form, just not ''publicly''
I mean legally
oh yeah, don't know
Would that be kinda the same as recording a movie that was never digitized and putting it online without permission?
But yeah they got the video in the first place prolly from getting the VoD like gorasuhl said then posted it
Like I know there’s some movies that just never made its way to stuff like Netflix and Hulu
in the sense that the original version isn't available online, but still technically exists
I might get flak for saying this but other vods exist there and nobody's taking them down so idk
Seems overzealous
i certainly have PR criticisms but he can do as he pleases as long as its within the law
I'd understand if it was a fake account but it doesn't sit well with me
Oh yeah absolutely
yeah. Also these dudes get a notification by the team. Stating to take such things down or they will take action after usually 14 days.
Well no but everyone is ready to jump on Thor right now over even the slightest thing so it won't even matter if it's a justified claim or not
Someone just has to scream HE DMCA'd me and people will swarm
which circles back around to my comment about the internet being crazy if you show support for thor
I think responding to it is worse
Don't feed the trolls
i reported a few things on steam and one time Khronos thought i was the owner, so i know a bit about how they usually handle such stuff 🙂
idk, it was tried for a month and the trolls didn't stop, honestly ever since thor put out the explainer video it's been way more quiet
The problem was he tried that and it just kept getting worse with evr more outlandish and unhinged accusations
One of the criticisms I have of what happened is that what you just said is not true
Going "We're not responding to trolls" then spending like 3 or 4 minutes explaining why is responding to trolls
i do think the video reduced some of it
This happened loads of times over the last drama
at least the aggressiveness in twitch chat
but we're all coming at this with 20/20 hindsight so
Glad they got banned
I think so far as Thor and his team just completely ignore wangrods and just ban without regarding them, the flak from the community can heal
Major win for releasing the Heartbound update imo
Shitty steam tag is gone \o/
did it come out? i didn't see a notification about it. thats good that the tag is gone
Yas it came out yesterday on stream, tag was vapourized in real time
gotcha, i missed the stream due to a combination of dogsitting and working my side gig
a very very needy swedish vallhund had my attention
Omg that looks adorable
its literally a husky in a tiny body
Never heard of those, looks like a fashionable corgi
they are similarly chatty
Thor's forgotten to do a short again
theres a norweigan one too thats cool
yknow which dogs are cool
pugs that have gotten their nose size back
i think its called an elkhound
valhunds also sound like a car engine revving when they're playing tug
Complete unique personalities
i actually didn't realize it until the other day but Little Ham is actually one of the dogs nicknames
Amazing how it looks like "a normal dog"
Which is a weird thing to say
Pugs are abnormal
i think one of the wildest pug things i ever saw was one actually doing the Koko Head Trail in Hawaii. that thing was having a great time and it was baffling
which, for reference, is basically 1200 steps up and then 1200 steps back down
Wassn't there a project going where they were trying to fix Pugs?
Imagine being born in a body that's essentially post-Mortal Kombat fatality
That's a pug
It's really sad yeah
yea there's people breeding out the flat faces
I think here in NL it's now illegal to sell or breed pugs with flat faces
good!
one day i'll get to go
my husband was there last year for warhammer worlds
i was extremely jealous
Understandable
It's really cool too 'cos even if you don't know the language almost everyone speaks English
i couldn't take that much time off and did a smaller trip solo hiking out on oregon
So you're not unsupported until you learn it etc.
Heck my therapist there spoke English
im attempting to relearn german for worlds this year since its in austria and we're spending 2 weeks in germany/austria
i at least want to understand what im eating
Doing Oregon Trail solo is very brave
I know xD
still some of the most beautiful hikes ive ever done though
about recent DMCA drama: https://x.com/PirateSoftware/status/1896669619076886683
@Awk20000 @Twitch @YouTube @KickStreaming @DramaAlert @Dexerto @nicholasdeorio @WillyMacShow @Asmongold Heyo, this is not me. Someone is filing false claims and impersonating me in doing so. Appeal them.
See this is engagement I really like
There starting thor drama again on x 
it will sadly.
Also damn that's awful lol
@full grove since you were asking earlier, here's the answer
That's stupid beyond reason
i was doing some digging. basically in doing so they are commiting perjury
Maybe, but like
that's how DMCA works
Being fake it could be someone with an IP from idk the middle of Asia
because they have to be claiming they are a representative of piratesoftware and have permission to do this on behalf of thor
that's just literally how they have to do it
Can't prosecute someone on an entirely different continent
basically, yes, anyone can do it, but you also are doing actual crime
They could at least check if the account is verified
you can just buy verification
meaningless
that is a constant fear for me at work
Then the dude is losing money to troll idk lol
leadership doesn't want to pay for verification, so basically someone could impersonate us and pay for the verification checkmark
there's already been a few bad attempts
not your problem
Imagine spending money to file a DMCA to a random twitter page as a troll
Complete madness
leadership will feel it when it starts to hurt the bottom line
no you don't understand i am the only marketing/development employee
Except, it is when company goes under and he's out of a job
i do all of our socials, marketing materials, community outreach, event planning, fundraising, donor relations, communications, etc.
the only thing i dont do is grant applications
So you're the PR person of the company?
technically that is not my name but kinda yea
Claim it's business lunch
the short answer is no the long answer involves process details that are dull af
the amount of caffeine i consume on a daily basis has me occasionally looking like Tweek from south park
I imagine stuff like adding a card to the account
I think they don't care they see pirate software and directly think it's thor just to start drama again
though the actual work we do has me slowly making a game on the side so thats fun
oh is this like when that one insulin company's stock dropped when someone bought a verified check and tweeted that insulin was gonna be cheaper
is it tho
I'm making a lot of assumptions
I think the account was something like "notelilily" and it stated it wasn't real
That they made an account impersonating the company with the purchased checkmark
don't remember exact details tbh
Which is impersonation, especially since it affected stock
If they did it with intent, i.e.: to actually drop the stock, that's another crime, securities and commodities fraud
And market manipulation, since it's false information
I don't remember whether the drop happened before or after the company then stated it wasn't dropping the price
IIRC It happened before
if you're able/willing i suggest requesting a community note on it btw
do the DMCA appeals work in a way where if thor helped vouch for them it would go through faster
okay but can we actually make insulin cheaper lol
I think bro has to wait the 14 days since its a troll
damn
yeah and not like twitter support will care if he vouches i suppose
they took 3 weeks just to get my friends account back
Sadly lot of people have run with it and the guys post where he talks about Thor's response doesn't have 1/10 the traction the original post does
So we're in for another rough ride
Probably done deliberately because things were starting to calm down
this might be a "pin it at the top of the stream" kinda time
only posted 6 mins ago
I just hope that Thor will feel fine to stream today. 😔
If it gets to 1/10 I'll be shocked
so 200 likes
thats fair
thor replied to the post also
that will help with traction
add it to the video comments time
eh, all we gotta do is refer to thor's tweet/the new post and if someone then doesn't believe it it's a quick one way void ticket
hope hes alright, hes gone into semi-slime mode a few times the last few months
which like, its certainly that time of year
Hopefully without engaging the trolls
im surprised i didnt have a plague again like i normally do in january
As that's exactly what the guy that filed the DMCA wants
its a matter of time atp
even though he's on the jump i dont think it will matter
'cos it's reasonable to say the victim here is the guy that got a fake DMCA on his twitter account
the goalpost will be "why did you falsely DMCA and then pretend it wasnt you as a PR stunt"
I sympathize with the guy 'cos that sucks
Hopefully thor can find out who pretends to be him and filed the dmca claim
Imagine someone does a DMCA against you and the person you though did it says "bro it wasn't me"
Terrifying
to file those claims you need to put personal information, but you can also just put false PI and it works
This kind of person should be honestly 100% not engaged with
not impossible, but unlikely
Not even acknowledged
im calling it i saw 1 comment like that under the og
except it didnt mention PR just why he lying because it couldnt possibly be fake
Sounds like someone who wants to start drama again by doing this
Best thing to do IMO is to be sympathetic to the guy who got his post taken down
And grummz who I thought would be smarter believe it was real thor
yea thats going great
Grummz has never cared about if anything was true
Dang
that person fights pointless fights on Twitter to get engagement instead working on his game.
some of them are being deleted
its marked as sensitive under the tweet
the response tweet
@Awk20000 This is why you verify your claims before accusing someone of anything. Make sure your proof is concrete next time.
direct link
all good
This is what's messed up with trolling
People are now blaming the guy for not looking into it
Or accusing Thor of Lying
Meanwhile the troll wins
Nobody thinks to blame them
no amount of correcting the record will stop the baseline hate because its not the objective
they find fault with him as a person, the way he acts and talks, not what he may or may not have done
Yep this is all about throw everything at the wall and eventually enough of it sticks
And they're determined to destroy Thor's career
i just hope it doesn't affect his networking too much
but i can understand if streamers who aren't used to that size of hate don't want to collab with him incase they get targeted too
even if they know he's totally fine
ludwig had to threaten crossbanning before he raided thor the other day so he wouldn't flood hate into his chat
I see we are on fire again what’s the TLDR?
someone claimed thor dmca'd them and didnt dig first
Also evening all
turns out its an impersonator
someone is faking thors identity and dmca's other people
and while the guy has also retweeted thor to say "hey it wasn't him" you know how the internet goes
The most oingoboingo crazy thing was people asking Thor for proof that he didn't file the DMCA
The heck is he supposed to do
Tbh it’s normal for them most are part of a certain community that I will not name they have a real axe to grind for him
And then snowball
We got him dead to rights chat
Make shadow puppets. I got you
photo proof the item did not arrive
I know some people are just scared of backlash if they support him publicly but I bet people have his back privately
But yes lud is a great person to have around
yeah thats a thing thors confirmed it
Oingo Boingo mentioned
Well I'm shocked Grummz deleted his post and put up a new one quoting Thor that he didn't do it
he said this was a thing on one of winkys streams
Of course there a couple of assholes going " he's lying about not doing the DMCA"
I’m not surprised he had it done on him a few times
oh thats cool of him actually
Given the one group I know is targeting thor I don't entirely blame anyone for not supporting Thor publically that group will go after them
off topic slightly, solution to the puzzle thing is just someone needs to do a streamer event where its an escape room and thor's on a team with others
okay that would actually be fun
i think it would be hilarious watching thor just solve it on his own as the team doesn't know whats going on
I would watch that
sounds like the one gamechanger episode
They'll just say he was carried they already tried that with the defcon stuff
with lou and siobhan trying to find clues while brennan just brute forces a lock
i should watch that episode again actually
With all the bullshit and who's behind it I'll be shocked if you can find enough streamers willing to do it
if its a physical combo lock thor will take one look at it and then smack it firmly as it pops open
legitimate not a joke depends on the combo lock
or they told him the solution beforehand to make him smart
if offbrand events was still up it would be a possibility
that assumes the lock can be slammed and is not attached to things
Brennan as the man behind the microphone and escape rooms I’m in sign me up
you hit the lockbody so if its not like stuck in place should be doable
most likely
is this one of those "open a masterlock with another masterlock" moments
yes
same concept
you hit it to fw the locking mechanism and jarr it so it opens from my very limited understanding
if the lock is made properly this doesn't happen
Yep theres no winning they'll just shift the goalposts I've already seen people trying to shift the voice changer narrative to "it's just a meme and he's just using it as something he can be right about"
@scarlet tide I’m seeing the same two groups trying to wind up a frenzy
Because one of the attacks is apparently Thor can't ever admit he's wrong
well yea there's no way to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they didnt tell him the solutions ahead of time and he's acting
which ofc is some crazy mental gymnastics
but it doesn't matter
Yep put money this was KF who did the fake claim
from the AOC thing i could see that but then he admitted he was wrong and apologised
yeah the amount of comments saying "he can't admit hes wrong" on the one video were baffling as he had literally just said "i f'd up" like 5 times on things
Seem too many obvious kf people in the twitter threads to think otherwise
I don’t think so I think it’s the other ones
But they might be grouping together
maybe. But most likely you will never know. Some throw away accounts, linked to nothing and copy/pasta some informations from the official ps account.
Agreed
If only you know you had a tick that’s proves you are the real one and didn’t have to buy it. Novel idea 💡
only thing might would be, if we were forced like in some other countries to bind everything to our social id. But the same time, you don't know if the id is actually the correct one, or stolen.
Or in the video disproving all the nonsense. Just saying the things he disapproved in the video as he never addressed them in the video. Mental.
The McNally short lives rent free in my head. sigh. discord didn't reply. Was replying to #streamchat message
It feels like everyone making those comments is just a living embodiment of the Pepe Silvia meme
my favourite one is the triangle dude
how does it make that sound
Well I have sent Thor some details of a law firm who have experience going after KF so hopefully that can help.him
literally vibranium shield but real
were they successful?
also if its not a mod ticket and just a dm i dont think he'll see it
don't know if anyone could do anything against this stuff. Even if you close or ban KF, they will create another plattform in no time.
That also might backfire given the current mess of Ethan Klein trying to sue people in LSF which may have died but was a thing for a moment there
People were PISSED
They're the firm representing Liz Fong-Jones
either way as annoying as it is, persuing legal action over internet comments no matter how wrong is always seen as a shit move in the public eye
Who currently just settled with an associate of KF for a bunch of money and documents about KF
legal is the last course of action reserved for big stuff
KF will likely have done the swatting
true but he wont need to sue for that, its just plain illegal
if they are able to be found they will assuming the police do police stuff
I have so many comments I cannot make in this server about that
What is KF
oh boy
yes, but worse
Fine I'll ask gippidy
like 10x
The initials of a truly hateful subsection of the internet that set out to harass people until they unalive
Does it have anything to do with farming a specific type of fruit that has a fuzzy exterior?
And proudly keep score on how successful they've been
Apparently it's anathema to say the name so I'll just describe it like that
Yes
Ah ok
I heard of them
I thought swatting and doing this sort of trolling was more of a 4chan thing while KF focused on doxxing
Yes let’s not mention the name of the group truly vile people
Tho I suppose if you're doxxing and harassing a passerby or lurker might see that as ammunition
tbh. it's a dark place you don't want to know anything about. A place so bad that some users of it have people driven into doing really bad, permanent things to them self and causing it to be blocked in several countries.
Ultimately if that's the case it doesn't matter, 'cos it means it's a certified troll
Sympathize with the guy that got his content taken down and move on I suppose
No need to engage in debate over trolling on twitter
Engaging over trolling on twitter is exactly what a troll wants to see
Problem is the wave of bullshit already spread and the truth won't get anywhere near as far
In life there's two types of problems
original post deleted after 4 hours it might be ok
Those you can solve and those you can't
or not as bad
Those you can't are not problems
Debating with a troll is like arguing with a pigeon playing chess. Ends in a mess and one walking away like they won a war
There's even people who know he didn't do it but are leaving up their hating on him about just because they don't like him
I don't think us as a community can do anything other than move the subject narrative to positive things
No we can combat false accusations
See it and quote thors tweet
Combating false accusations is engaging in debate over trolling on twitter
Don’t go fighting battles
at some point you have to engage/respond. Add more information to it, to show it's incorrect, like linking a official post saying it's this or that and therefore a incorrect and then block those guys.
Aye but I’m a Moron and I like to be a pain in the ass as my boss told me this morning
It's ok, getting better takes one small step at a time
Wait a bit to block them though if you just post them block they can't see your reply
linking information is fine, dont actually waste energy hating beyond that, bad look for community and pointless
dont block just mute the thread
In this case, it's understanding that if a troll is spreading misinformation and the community is engaging, saying it's a lie and then blocking the troll they'll just call the community butthurt and nobody wins
Yeah post a link to Thor's statement them mute the thread is good
I was an admin on a game server for about a year, and for around like 4 years I helped run Adventurer's League in my town. One of the things I learned very quickly is that if someone is griefing, and you try to punish them using the content of the game itself, they'll just grief harder as that's exactly what they want
Trolls work the same way
they did not advert raid
it's not those people specifically, it's also people, who are on the fence, just lurking, and don't know. If only missinformation is in the room, who's gonna tell the truth?
I think those people need to be convinced by Thor and PirateSoftware
And if the community is gonna engage, they need to be sympathetic
As a professional fence sitter, people on the fence respond better to positivity
and I think what Thor wants to build is a positive community
well yea, dont attack, just say the situation, how it is, provide evidence and there you go
yep, but this is the intention. The others should see this not those guys. Or can't a 3rd one see this when i block the other one i replied to?
I just post a few things when they spread some bs, to give some new guys a second opinion, when they see this stuff.
For example, in a few posts people were digging up the stuff with maim and i was like nope that's false, here are the official statements from both.
My concern is going "hey dumbass that's a lie check your sources posts link"
i concur as a professional fence sitter
If I'm sitting on the fence and someone calls me a dumbass I immediately hop off
onto their side surely
dumbass? even i would not listen if somebody insults me outright
And the person that called me a dumbass is this meme
I would listen to them and then make fun of them
yeah, just state this or that is wrong, here is the information about this. Don't insult them
Pretty much. It's a behavioral thing
Silly example but like
I play a lot of Coop Starcraft
As Stukov P3
YOu don't need the natural expansion's gas resource
So I offer them to my team mate
when you insult someone in response, you could end up getting striked by them and this may could be a thing they want.
If I go "hey take these" they never ever take it
No matter how much I want them to take it
works great for people when you insult them they really hear out the rest of the stuff you have to say
If I go "hey bro you can take these if you want" and never bring it up again they tend to be more favourable, and we both win 'cos they have more resources
So uh, what's going down today
ye, that's the headspace i was going with, insulting anyone in any matter wont give you success, that's just shooting yourself in the leg
Giving the power of choice and being positive is best
"Hey dude if you want there's this post from Thor explaining the situation, unfortunately that bit you said/shared has some inacuracies"
nah dont talk like an AI
Even if they shared a complete fabrication from the depths of hell
There's a reason AIs talk like that
thats what AI would say 
I'm just so tired I watch Thor because for some reason he makes my autism brain calm down when it's freaking out. But all this bs is setting it off because there's nothing I can do that doesn't feel like I'm trying to hold back the tide
I think I managed to coalesce what I was trying to say, sorry for the ramble
we should circle back on that on monday, don't be late for the scrum 
people who arent inclined to agree with you also dont like the whole neutral argument "well here's what i think i think personally that you may be slightly wrong in that" makes em feel like they're being babied
My point was to not order people to see something
Rather ask/give the power of choice
That was it
dont be rude but dont dance around them too much
depends on the person also but yeah
Don't be too hard on yourself, it's not your job to hold back the tide
It's your choice to watch the content and enjoy it 🙂
And if you choose, power to you, it's good content
The most true that has ever trued in the history of truth
never used it, never will, it's just headache
Good for traffic updates and ferret pictures
my account got taken down for some bs but never been happier honestly
i just watch now
blessing in disguise
Sure logically I know it isn't but you tell that to my autism I see a problem that however tangentially affects me I try to find a solution of something I can do to resolve it.
Have you tried telling yourself that sometimes the best solution is to walk away?
I mean this sympathetically, not harshly
Im thinking blocking this channel for a while, cause I have it too. It makes me too engaged here, not good for bettering myself as person and mental health, soooo yea
i get the compulsion and so walking away when its in front of you isnt easy, preventative might be best here
okay, time to switch topics i guess.
if you can somehow
HAHAHAHA. Oh if only😄it's probably the one thing that universal to autism we're really really bad at that.
New topic then, what’s everyone’s favorite noita interaction
wait a sec i have a clip
Don't spawn him
Gets nuked
Bzzt
played noita the first time with chat and chat being chat try to noita him 😄
Last time I saw him play it there was one about ducks that chat didn’t choose and I really want to know what ducks was
i heard you're shakable, is that true? I heard it, so it must be tru.
hmm, maybe
Shaken not stirred
call the bambulance
Fair enough, thanks for clarifying
yeah the ducks. iirc he uses a mod for them, but i can't remember the name.
This also adds some cursed ducks to the game
Also if thor talks about ducks, he usually refers to the spell with ducks that is also added by the mod. It is like add mana but weaker and also add just visual ducks to the projectiles.
Yeah we get VERY into our interests
id be a lethal weapon if i had thors motivation
Duck launcher, wonderful
yeah, the flock of ducks he used once, totally not to have a infinite source of blood, are in the base game ^^
Should make it geese instead, they’d hunt down blood for him
I wonder if shayes geese have stomped any weasels to death yet
don't forget someone made a Thor worms mod after Thor said someone should do it. Now we have cursed worms as well: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3287798509&searchtext=
low res thor head and a long thumb as body.
Why do I have to wake up to weird shit on Twitter.
I just wanna hunt monsters, man.
What flavour of weird shit this time?
As said on this post I never filed a DMCA here and someone is impersonating me and doing so. Appeal these and fight them. I have never filed a DMCA on this platform.
At the least, its not Instagram feed from a couple of days ago
if it's monsters you want to hunt feel free to hunt my friend group
I don't know how you do it honestly. It's such incessant garbage
As a local autism haver, just walking away from something doesn't even occur to me until like after
Is there anything not-weird on Twitter at this point?
Also hope you’ve solved the check engine light without expensive payments
saw the asmon clip where he talks about how you cant lie and say you didnt DMCA because doing so interferes with the DMCA claim making it void (as far as i understood it im probably skipping over something)
anyone know if there's any truth to it
anyways despite whats going on ive been messing with the profile summary thing on twitter and the first paragraph made me laugh
wtf lmao
that last part could go in his bio ngl
the next two paragraphs are just about whats going on but it finishes with a quote from him saying excel is a database
i don't know much about the process itself.
Watched the vid on the retweet. What he's saying is. No one else can actually force it, because they don't have the right to do so.
But technically everyone could file a dmca request in the first place, even if they don't have the rights to do it, which is just messed up. If it turns out the person claiming isn't the owner/has the rights they will revert it. But this could take some time.
i do know that, is that what he meant? from what little i gathered i thought he was addressing the whole lying conspiracy thing
nah, he's just explaining what happened. So one forced a dmca and it wouldn't gone through because it's not the owner.
ok, i mean this clip btw
Asmongold backs up Pirate after the clarification
i get the first 40s
thats what you're talking about
but its the part where he says impossible to lie
ok so on rewatch... i still dont really know what he means on that last part, do dmcas go public with who actually sent them if it doesnt go through? never heard of that happening bf
oh yeah, didn't watched that. Yeah sounds weird
I use paint and notepad++ a lot to explain things too
but using dark mode and paint with white canvas... 
i have a hunch its related but you right it could just be a thing he already does
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Tickets been made, and now we wait
Oop
Just as I speak
That was like the first time I've seen one of those here
I supposed telegram links were just auto modded
nah not auto
idk if ticketing is the right way to go about that because its time sensitive but also tickets guarantee it gets seen to
not sure what procedure should be on those
@ might not even do anything
would be cool to have a dedicated role to @ for bots or other messages that need to be dealt with quickly
I'll always just make a ticket but 9/10 the mods are mid swing with the hammer by the time I finish typing
Speaking of which
Ty for doing the thing mods you rock!

boy howdy I'm so happy I don't have a twitter. its not worth it in the slightest lmao
Unless a judge orders court documents to be sealed, anything submitted to the court is a public document, meaning anyone will be able to read it.
Asmon isn't saying Thor literally can't lie. He's saying if a DMCA claim goes to court, any lie about issuing a DMCA would be immediately obvious and would only make the issue harder on Thor so its in Thors best interest to not lie about it. Its a proverbial "He can't lie", not a literal.
i see
so it only matters if it goes to court which it wont anyways, even people who actually submit DMCA takedowns if they're just to silence people back off before it gets to that point
for the reason you said
You're right, nobody is going to take something like this to court but I wouldn't say it only matters if it goes to court. As a semi public figure, Thor does need to worry about his name and reputation too.
Sweet baby Jesus, I just came back to see this. What happened?
internet
yeah, i was meaning the whole cant tell a lie thing when talking about if it mattered to clear up the confusion
obviously outside of that it matters a whole lot for reputation
stream coming
theres a whole bunch of people i've seen this morning essentially dont care who did it they're just going to act as if thor did it and nothing will convince them otherwise
morning all
people who are losers and wanted to start drama for attention again If they would bother first ask thor why he would file a DMCA claim And thor says but i never did that they could find the one who really did that instead
unfortunately that's not "content" enough for some people
this has the wiki vibes tbh lol
More Drama?
not really
just someone who is trying start drama by prentending to be thor Doubt we wil find out who
Ohhhh boy pesto might be tiny now but that mix of breeds says “beware”
With unending energy
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wtf
Noice shot
i auto filled lmao
Yea lmao I hate that
@jolly sky im playing everhood 2 in gaming 4 you should come hang out
its winky
ah
Lol
✅ Twitch Partner "HasanAbi" has been unbanned after 1 day, 3 minutes and 12 seconds! ✅
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I guess now we know that advocating for violence = 1 day ban
well, maybe not perma-ban, but 1 day? like wtf twitch
yeah i at least expected 3

hes had 7-day bans before but i can't remember what caused them
and iirc his lasy 1-day ban was way less egregious so like, the scale is wonky
actually dougdoug had one semi-recently that i was surprised didn't cause problems for him since they were somewhat attempting to get his twitch AI to decide that tts messages were happy/violent/self-harm/horny
it was very funny but boy it was skirting those ToS lines
If you're still playing after I grab food then I shall
Can't believe Thor raided DougDoug specifically so he could break my legs with the car smh
its because big streamers like hasan or asmon get twitch a lot of money when they stream. when they get banned it hurts twitch bad.
this is me guessing going off of common sense and logic. i don't actually know.
Wasn't asmon banned for longer? Or was that by yt?
nah it was by twitch after he commented some absolutely insane shit about palestine
just remember how hypocritical twitch moderation is
Asmond Gold: Says his thoughts about what's going on in the middle east
Twitch: 2 week ban!!!
HasanAni: Says to his fans that they should Kill a Political figure
Twitch: 1 day 3 min 21 sec ban
BTW Hasan DOUBLED DOWN ON THAT
did he? cause I know he rephrased
Yeah, like asmon or not, the hypocrisy is obvious. And I hate hypocrisy.
asmon has always been hypocritical
No i mean the twitch ban length
He didn't . . .he really didn't
he still said that someone in political standing should be killed
calling for the killing of a politician
1 day ban
I have seen vtubers and other streamers get shot for far less
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in his video, he said that rick scott should be receiving the max punishment for medical fruad
no not max, he said Capital punishment
aka Punishment of Death
no, he said MAX punishment
the bit i watched he did not say capital punishment
If you wanna timestamp link where he said it in his youtube video
Dude the max punishment for medical fraud is life in prison
IF people die because of it
and someone should be punished for medical fraud
agreed
maybe he did said max, I don't want to watch that man any more . . .His thoughts about women make me feel ill . . .
I had watched a recap from an independant news person that covered it and Hasan did reword it to max punishment
I also don't watch hasan
I can't even say what he said about women because it has some words that he said would get my in trouble as they are words that will make users quite uncomfortable
as a woman, I couldn't give less of a shit about what any streamers thoughts are lmao
yeah, most are things they say for content
letting someones opinion on things dictate your own just bc they are popular is unhinged
altho thats something that scares me a little about the upcoming generations bc they do let streamers and musicians dictate their political opinions without doing any research at all or even understanding how our system works
next to no critical thinking. It's incredibly scary
steamers have dumb fans that will listen to them there are going to plenty of them that will take that monsters words to heart and act upon them
I know I should worry about such but . . .at the same time . . .look at dream stans . . .those creatures ranging from the from young children to grown up and even married adults will actively attack anyone the deem a Threat to Dream, wither that be Through bullying, doxxing, hacking and in rare cases IRL attacks
with the things Hasan says . . .it makes worried on if some of those fans will do some very evil and extreme actions because man on the computer said so
I seriously doubt someone is actually going to go and commit murder because a man on a camera said so
maybe I have a bit more faith in humanity than I should
we literally just watched someone threaten to kill valkyrae and co. live on stream for not giving him their number
so like, idk man
sure but that psycho was at the same park they were, that isn't exactly the same
that psycho clearly never understood how to deal with rejection. So you can't even compare that
im saying people like that exist. and also live in the dc area
you get someone hyper-parasocial who is told someone deserves violence and idk man the world has gotten wonky
at the end of the day, ppl are responsible for THEIR choices. If they believe they can go and kill someone and it's okay, then they're far more gone and were already intending on doing so anyways.
to be clear i do not want these things to happen but also people have done some awful stuff in history
man this was deeper than i expected at 10pm. can we talk about how bonkers the raid alert in dougdougs stream was instead?
well im raiding in WoW right now, does that count?
close enough, whats the raid
Liberation of Undermine
What if I become a streamer and then say "women are based"
then the incels will doxx you its a lose-lose situation
Damn
at this point i just try to find nice corners of the internet for as long as i can until something spits on it
for the immediate moment its josh johnson talking about diddys lawyer trying to quit
not trying, he did quit
which is insane to me since the man represented one of if not the worst terrorist in US history
oh is it official? last i heard was him putting in the request with the judge
I KNOW
like what did he learn that broke him???
if you believe tiktok, necromancy did it 
whose a terrorist?
bin laden
osama bin laden, yea
gotcha
I try not to use buzzwords unless they're called for bc theres a really big issue with words losing their meaning and importance bc of that.
pedo and racist being the biggest ones to suffer i think
in this case, its a very correct one
i feel like this lawyer needs therapy for the rest of his life to just process the stuff hes had to read/hear
because ppl just throw them out like they're nothing
on the one hand yeah but on the other, he gets to pick and choose his clients so I'd almost say its self inflicted
either way, therapy forever
fr
out of curiosity, whats everyones go-to cozy game? i need a new one
for when you don't wanna shoot demons with bananas doom weapons but still wanna play something relaxing
last cozyish game I played was Cult of the Lamb
Ark and Rimworld are mine but they're not quite cozy
Stardew, the sims, minecraft and the civ games are good ones tho
i always struggled with the sims but with the right combination of nonsense i could probably get into that
sims 1 was so good
i watched someone a while back rp as guy fieri in it and at some point the grim reaper was making regular appearances
crown two kingdoms is also really fun
that one i don't know, i'll look it up
personally I mod the hell out of the sims to make it fun
same with skyrim tho
I usually end up spending more time installing mods than I do playing the games lmfao
No matter what I did in Sims I would eventually end up trying to catch everyone in little cages.
Pool without ladder moment
Or that
I replied to thor his tweet 2 sec later liked by another of these fake account thot bot 
SkyNut is real.
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I'm still wondering from the perspective of a moderator . . .
how does one who literally said that his viewers should kill someone and has said some very monstrous things about women upon the platform doesn't warrant a permaban . . . not even a freaking month-long ban
Yet twitch thought the accurate response for someone saying Homer Simpson was to give the streamer a month-long ban because they believe the streamer was trying to say "simp"
Because twitches moderation isn't balanced at all
The Twitch Mod team doesn't like to be called out for being simps
NOT THE MODS HERE TO CLARIFY
mods here are cool
There's also a monetization bias for twitch as well. Hasan brings in a ton of ad revenue.
By the way the whole thing of simp becoming a slur on twitch was caused by Pokimane fans getting pissy that people call them simp
Even though that's literally what the definition of the word is, they were simping for her . . .
I like the stark difference between Asmon getting banned that one time vs Hasans ban
One was "yea I deserved that" and the other was "THeY aRe ATaCkiNg mE!"
this was cool of protonmail https://x.com/ProtonSupport/status/1897216377330540742
@PirateSoftware We are sorry to see this. Please reach out to our anti-abuse team at https://t.co/WQcNj0MH0F. They will be able to assist you.
even if it was a bot
What's that about?
Went over the DMCA filers information with @Awk20000.
The false claimer has used a phone number from a Pirate Software, LLC which isn't us. We're a Corporation and this is definitely not our phone number.
They also used a @ProtonMail email which adds another layer of obscurity
Thor is already pointed it out that streams that have politics or political themes do not make as much ad revenue as streams that don't
Politics are on the lower end of making ad revenue on twitch while on the high end is pets, aquariums and zoos
yes he does. he got accepted for partner a few months ago.
Well there's something more going on then
Probably
nope. Any streams with political tags automatically lose ad rev.
Wow wonder why he monetized that channel then
Oh wait God damn it we're having two conversations the same time and I got confused
Hold on I'm swapping to my computer so I can actually see everything
its because streaming while not monetised can actually hurt twitch everytime he streams. Thor has a short on this
asmon
the slop ragebaiter
There has been some cases where twitch will force monetization upon people's channels even if the person isn't trying to enter the partner program
He's already rich af and his youtube channel generates a lot.
Ah right
I'm going to be honest I rather take asmon gold over Hasan . . .
Hasan has said some really vile things that makes me worry about women in his presence

