streamchat

[serene valley]

just mean to say that the join date doesn't have to be the end all

there's some regulars in the discord that have left and rejoined as well

[gentle mortar]

Oldest post

[kindred holly]

Again, what I've talked about is given them the benefit of a doubt. I genuinely think they're a troll.

[forest glacier]

I always leave a pirate tab open so when he raids I doot around a little or not sometimes and I hit the back button to go to pirate and the raid message keeps spawning again and again.

[trail crater]

Why argue that when we all agree they're a troll?

[hollow yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/enough-no-stop-gif-19977011

[trail crater]

It's pointless. Most people here have enough braincells to tell the difference between someone who left and came back ,and a troll.

[kindred holly]

I was trying to be fair at first. Clearly that was a damn mistake

[gentle mortar]

didn't act like a dbag, he gets to stay

if he acts up

then yea

[spare topaz]

...huh...dude in the gaming 1 channel has a super boring name

wait why was that a response? gaddamit discord

my bad!

[gentle mortar]

huh? 😄

[kindred holly]

?

[spare topaz]

dude sitting in the gaming 1 channel called "mana potion" rn

[kindred holly]

Lol

[cursive flame]

oh gods

[serene valley]

I think that's just unfortunate

that person was here for a few months already

also the connected accounts have the same name

so I think that's just a coincidence

[half fulcrum]

^^

[indigo wadi]

Quinn ain't gonna get banned, lbr lol

[scarlet tide]

one of the videos is already back up

yt take the video downm whilst they review it apparently - i assume as a precaution if it does violate you dont want it up a second longer than you have to

[terse pelican]

Makes no sense though, Taking it down ''temporarily'' will kill it in the algorithm.

[lyric shard]

all this publicity certainly will help it though

[half fulcrum]

proly they do it in case it is something they may want to keep down. Likely have lots of rules they need to follow themselves

[lyric shard]

i dont see a problem with temporary takedowns, but idk why it got taken down in the 1st place

[serene valley]

community guidelines apparently

¯_(ツ)_/¯

either way the outrage is just a nothing burger by people who can't read properly

[lyric shard]

yeah but people have to strike/vote for that do they not?

its not like a bot took it down

[frozen sparrow]

I must have missed something because I was in the AoC livestream and went back to the stream and was infinitely raiding into the ferrets.

[serene valley]

youtube probably has some automatic detection as well

[lyric shard]

i think probably some voting threshhold

if enough people flag it, it gets taken to the reviewboard

[serene valley]

twitch is a platform with 0 problems whatsoever

[frozen sparrow]

Hahaha. Yeah I know. I was just so confused. Not that it is hard to do that to me.

[hollow yacht]

Overview
YouTube has always had a set of Community Guidelines that outline what type of content isn’t allowed on YouTube. These policies apply to all types of content on our platform, including videos, comments, links, and thumbnails. Our Community Guidelines are a key part of our broader suite of policies and are regularly updated in consultation with outside experts and YouTube creators to keep pace with emerging challenges.

We enforce these Community Guidelines using a combination of human reviewers and machine learning, and apply them to everyone equally—regardless of the subject or the creator’s background, political viewpoint, position, or affiliation.

Our policies aim to make YouTube a safer community while still giving creators the freedom to share a broad range of experiences and perspectives.

turns out google is a great resource in finding out how things work

[lyric shard]

a combination of human reviewers and machine learning

welp. who knows what those ratios are lol

[serene valley]

Either way neither of them is related to anything thor has done

[hollow yacht]

correct

[smoky crypt]

Hope y'all are doing good today, reminder to just tune off reddit in general.

[hollow yacht]

thor did not say "hey go to this dudes channel and flag his stuff for being mean" but lsf is gonna claim that until the end of time

[lyric shard]

could be the silent majority at work, which he does not have control of

[hollow yacht]

i am doing great! i have a milkshake

[thin geyser]

There is an automatic detection AI that is utilized for all videos upon upload and continues to check as it changes or is re-weighted. It's absolutely possible to get flagged without a single human reporting a video.

[lyric shard]

the guidelines just posted from @hollow yacht said its a combination

[thin geyser]

It happens a lot, especially if you have music playing. There are automatic DMCA bots Youtube has too.

[lyric shard]

i think music is easier to detect

[forest glacier]

Alright, Khronos 100% has me muted (I would mute me too) but hopefully he eventually see's what I said to him about reddit... This cant stay like this...

[thin geyser]

it's easier and faster, yes.

[hollow yacht]

like in this chat or in normal twitch chat

[forest glacier]

DMs

[hollow yacht]

no i mean what cant stay lol

also what did you do to get muted??

[jolly sky]

It's honestly best just to leave that whole cesspit be. Unless its posted directly on the PirateSoftware subreddit, then ignore it.

[forest glacier]

Oh the state of reddit. is what i meant

[indigo wadi]

What about reddit?

[thin geyser]

But even DMCA takedown stuff can happen without Thor even being involved, or a human person's hands on the flag button. This whole blaming Thor for DMCA stuff is beyond silly.

[spare topaz]

curiosity has the better of me, and im interested in your thoughts now

[thin geyser]

If Youtube reviews it and sees no violation they put it back up within a few days, anyway.

[forest glacier]

I just talk alot lol, I wouldnt assume Ive made him mad, he hasnt expressed that to me at least

[indigo wadi]

From Thor? Thor would have to initiate it.

[spare topaz]

also worth remembering its 9:15pm here in the UK. on a friday night

[smoky crypt]

LSF seem to just be clipping Thor whenever he gets irritated now, there was one about his stance on No Man's Sky :/

[thin geyser]

No I mean in general; DMCA can happen for videos ripped from other videos sometimes automatically, as well.

[forest glacier]

oh yea he is idle af lmao Go get the Greggs Khrony

[indigo wadi]

LSF just needs to be ignored

Let them live in their own little cesspool

[hollow yacht]

anyone ever see the power rangers movie with ivan ooze?

reddit is the ooze

[spare topaz]

LSF needs to be reported IMO - every single one of those posts is riddled with messages that are in clear violation of their own community guidelines that they display prominently

[thin geyser]

Nevertheless that's not what's even happening and it's just people making stuff up to be butthurt about; it's nothing new.

[golden mirage]

No VOD? did thor remove it or did someone try a take down?

[hollow yacht]

clean ourselves off with water, or in this case grass and ferrets

[indigo wadi]

Removed to prevent clipping

[thin geyser]

He hasn't been letting them stay up thanks to the harrassment.

[spare topaz]

he took it down because it was already being clipped for LSF

[forest glacier]

The fact that they have a home for hate groups that actively damage (often financially) anyone they target with often verifyably false information...

[still dew]

my phone must have been listening to me as I listened to Thor, because as he was talking about the LSF thing, the post in question on their subreddit was recommneded to me. Read through it just disgusted at the awful hate fueled circle jerk going on there. Only a handful of people capable of reading calling out OP for lying about it being a DMCA in the title.
Im just so tired of the hate

[golden mirage]

woot, triple reply. Extra points!

[indigo wadi]

Other than reporting that subreddit, there's very little that can be done.

[forest glacier]

untrue

[spare topaz]

go check their community guidelines too - youll see everything there is a violation. We could legitimately report the subreddit as unmoderated at this point given how little they seem to care about their own guidelines

[indigo wadi]

So tell me what can be done beyond reporting?

[forest glacier]

legal action

[jolly sky]

Or an older reference, that one episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation

[indigo wadi]

Roflmao, okay.

You can't be serious. Legal action for what?

[thin geyser]

They're right; defamation.

[forest glacier]

you know.. I think this conversation is over.. with you at least..

[indigo wadi]

And what's Thor gonna do, sue reddit? Come on now

[still dew]

i hadn't considered that. I downvoted all the dumbasses and then blocked the sub. Its just one of those ones I don't want to see, so i'll make sure I don't see it

[spare topaz]

nah bud - the next step is reporting LSF to reddit itself. There's a process to have subreddits banned for crap like theyre doing now

[forest glacier]

I cant imagine nobody has done this yet...

[indigo wadi]

The idea of legal action is wild, especially since you refuse to give examples that can be done legally.

[lyric shard]

the mirror clips still work

[indigo wadi]

Or it has and has gotten nowhere.

[lyric shard]

which tbh have been a godsend for LSF for a long time

[smoky crypt]

I'm gonna report the subreddit anyway tbh. The hate brigade has gone on so long and similar subs were taken down by Reddit in the past.

[indigo wadi]

Hence why I said there's very little that can be done and this doesn't fall under legalise

[thin geyser]

It would be the user themself for false claims and for spurring on illegal action in others.... but that would require a complete lack of anonymity for a single user and the user would likely take on the free speech approach. Also yes you could theoretically sue reddit for not keeping to their own guidelines well enough but that's rocky ground at best.

[spare topaz]

I can't, because my UI doesnt allow me to report the damn subreddit :/ - theyve made it difficult (for me at least) to raise it with them

[forest glacier]

hmmmm. Report or not, this IS a legally viable situation, if one sought it to be. The materials are there

[thin geyser]

Well, mostly for allowing defamation to remain and continue to cause problems

[spare topaz]

true, but then you Streisand the situation

[indigo wadi]

And you really think anyone is going to throw money at that? Let's be reasonable. That's just not a course of action that's plausible.

[spare topaz]

and reopen the floodgates for all the dramatubers to come right back at it

[forest glacier]

If Reddit isnt on the hook for LSF, Kick isnt on the hook for Watch Parties

[indigo wadi]

Please explain what is legal about this to drive it forward.

[thin geyser]

I didn't say he should, I was pointing out that they were correct that it was possible.

I don't think it's reasonable or would do much but tarnish Thor's reputation further to do so

[indigo wadi]

And defamation is incredibly difficult to prove

[thin geyser]

...Iiiii would say there'd be a damn solid case in this instance...

[spare topaz]

actually there is a specific clause in the communications act in the USA that absolves social media platforms of the legality of the information posted on their platforms by users - i cant remember specifically which one it is rn cos i am tired af, but i remember legaleagle covering it once

[forest glacier]

What is there to make drama about? a W? yes please amplify my streamers W over haters

[thin geyser]

nevertheless I don't think it'd help anything

[forest glacier]

If this is whats protecting Kick im going to die

[thin geyser]

seriously? When did that happen? I guess that makes sense since these things really do get too big to moderate

[indigo wadi]

I don't think so. They have to straight up say "I am doing this maliciously", otherwise they can simply say "just trolling mate"

[spare topaz]

Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act - just had to go and look it up cos my brain did a total blank 😅

[forest glacier]

A law that finally bests Nintendo? Pog?

[thin geyser]

at some point I don't think it matters if your ""trolling"" leads others to actual harmful action

[indigo wadi]

It was somewhat of a miracle that Herd was found guilty of Defamation

[blissful imp]

this got recommended to me on youtube

just now

[indigo wadi]

"Not interested"

[thin geyser]

just the use of the word "triggered" really tells you a lot, tbh

[spare topaz]

just click the three dots and say dont recommend the channel - trust me the algorithm gets the hint quite quickly

[indigo wadi]

It does

Sadly you can't do it via searches

Part of me still can't believe this spawned from HC WoW

[thin geyser]

honestly something Tumblr got very right was the ability to hide posts for utilizing a specific word in them; if only I could hide all videos with the words "gets triggered," I'd have to deal with a lot less stupidity

[lyric shard]

@blissful imp lol bro i was talking about platypusses on time in twitch chat for like 10 minutes on spelling etc and youtube started recommending me platypus videos. its all connected

[forest glacier]

Ew Thor was using Chrome? 😛

[lyric shard]

platypi? platy... whatever

[kindred holly]

"Triggered" WTF is this, 2016?

[thin geyser]

Chrome used to be good before Google became atrociously evil

[forest glacier]

That was a thing? There was a point were they werent?!

[indigo wadi]

Sadly

[trail crater]

Sweetheat. Babydoll. Darling. He's and everyone around him has been harassed for almost a month now because of people on that subreddit.

[thin geyser]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_be_evil

[forest glacier]

ok this has got to be the most deeply hilarious thing ive seen in a while

[thin geyser]

yeah

it is

[indigo wadi]

I get that, but the likelihood of any legal action to be taken is insanely small and not worth it.

[kindred holly]

That's hilarious

[still dew]

yeah, i can't find a way to report it either. But having read through Reddit and their own community rules, they're clearly in violation

[kindred holly]

Reddit admins are notoriously slow with subreddit bans unless they get significant media attention.

[spare topaz]

yup - really frustrated by the realisation that reddit is slowly stripping our ability to report subreddits from folk

[thin geyser]

also chances are the people calling in police reports will get investigated for filing false claims, which many many people forget is in itself illegal

[indigo wadi]

That's why I laughed at legal action being brought up, because to me, it'd be silly to expect legal action to be taken, especially to court

[jolly sky]

Unfortunately it's incredibly difficult to prove in a court of law that those posts lead to harmful action.

[indigo wadi]

And lass haven't caught up with the internet

[thin geyser]

I think a lot of the people committing these hateful actions will find themselves facing huge legal fines and perhaps even jail time

[trail crater]

https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/requests/new hit community and use the "I'd like to report a subreddit for violating community guidelines"

[indigo wadi]

Yeah but if those calls are out of jurisdiction, then nothing will happen.

[thin geyser]

not if there's literal police report filings of false claims en masse, especially if any of them mention the same verbiage

nevertheless I'm not recommending it

[indigo wadi]

They won't, unfortunately

[thin geyser]

true

[jolly sky]

Yes you but cannot, legally say without a shadow of a doubt that the posts lead to that action.

[forest glacier]

until you have analytics showing correlation AND a team of 12 people who have all seen the same stuff for the past month..

[indigo wadi]

Expecting cops to do their jobs? LOL.

I'm sorry but the majority of the police force is a joke and don't care about proper enforcement.

[thin geyser]

true

[still dew]

hell yeah. Thanks!

[jolly sky]

Still impossible. You cannot prove that the correlation was caused by those posts. It could have come from a different website entirely.

[thin geyser]

again, I never thought he should attempt any legal action against anyone--it actually probably would harm more than it helps

[lyric shard]

anyone else have issues with amazon prime sub not working? its been a few days where i cant use my prime sub

[indigo wadi]

Something something metadata

[forest glacier]

maybe but theres zero evidence from any other site than maybe youtube and steamcommunity has any involvement and there is MOUNTAINS of evidence against reddit

[spare topaz]

thanks, have duly reported - and unironically linked the clip they posted of thor saying he's restricted clips because of LSF

[forest glacier]

Twitch has been FREAKING OUT all day today

[lyric shard]

its been like this for 50 hours

[charred wolf]

Trolling as a moderm day concept is literally overpranking in regular show.

[trail crater]

what browser are you using? if its chrome twitch has some issues with chrome

[indigo wadi]

Like using the Depp/Herd case (outside of Herd being...a tool), Depp had a very hard case against him. Only because Herd was dumb and too narcissistic that the case went in Depps direction.

That said, I guess there could be a class action lawsuit? But even then I doubt it.

[lyric shard]

chrome user <---

maybe its some extension i have

not using adblocker so idk

[charred wolf]

Remember when trolling was like. Leaving deceptive mails that made it look like you won a car?

[indigo wadi]

This is not the W you think it is unfortunately

[jolly sky]

All you could say is "ifs and maybe's" you could not 100% say in a court of law that those posts lead to that action. The best that could be done is finding the specific person that said "A post" on reddit, and then track their post to their Twitch username.

[charred wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/regular-show-funny-prank-overpranking-regular-show-gif-4531057716544798943

[trail crater]

try using edge, that might fix the issue

[spare topaz]

im old enough to remember when trolling was making a post that looked like it had been shortened and putting a "see more" below it that wasnt in fact a button

[indigo wadi]

Unfortunately, court and law are not up to code with tue internet

[trail crater]

i remember when trolling was "do you love the colors of the sky"

[jolly sky]

You cannot realistically target an entire subreddit lawfully with that same brush.

Sure you can report the Subreddit and say that it violates the Terms and Conditions, or user policy with Reddit, but in a court of law? not happening

[charred wolf]

Nowadays, trolling is leaking their home address and giving people who don't know any better to feel vindicated for attacking someone.

[lyric shard]

@trail crater I tried Edge and it worked. it was a chrome issue

[indigo wadi]

Class action?

[trail crater]

personally I wouldn't go the legal route, just report it to reddit. Because thor isn't even close to the only person who's been targeted by it

[lyric shard]

now im going back over to chrome lol

[trail crater]

thor had the same problem yesterday, so i think its actually something with twitch and chrome

[jolly sky]

That only applies to companies, not a Subreddit. And Reddit will absolutely have a clause that says that whatever their users say is not on them.

[charred wolf]

It's baffling to me. This is just like how pranks in the real world have gotten a notorious weight to it because of all the outrage worthy things that happen from it.

[thin geyser]

switch to firefox my guy

[indigo wadi]

Yeah, that's kind of what I thought

[thin geyser]

they have good adblockers they actually allow to be in their system (and they prevent a lot of tracking)

[forest glacier]

ultimately idk, im not on reddit nearly as much as a "regular user" and DEFINITELY less than the moderators who have to look at it. This does seem to present a very grey legal area considering damage done with verifiably false information is quite literally textbook, and not only that were nearing the point where I worry about overall mental for the moderators. Hive minding to disperse the load helps immensely but its not impenetrable.

[indigo wadi]

I'm a opera gxer

[charred wolf]

People forget the line between a gesture of whimsy and inflicting genuine harm on people.

[spare topaz]

unfortunately, as life has sped up, the only emotion capable of keeping up is rage. algorithms and live feeds are pushing this trend hard

[thin geyser]

opera is still google

[indigo wadi]

It does not present the legal area you think it does.

[indigo wadi]

I know.

[jolly sky]

Personally I've never switched from Firefox lmao, been using it ever since I found out there was an alternative to Internet Explorer back in like, 2004

[lyric shard]

@spare topaz lowkey kinda based

[indigo wadi]

Brave is another good one, I think

[charred wolf]

God, I hate it when people capitalize on anger in such malicious ways.

[lyric shard]

nothing triggers short focused engagement that ends up fading like rage

[forest glacier]

based

[charred wolf]

Stuff like this used to happen in like

1 in 10,000 people

It feels like this is becoming closer to 1 in 1,000.

[thin geyser]

Unfortunately these days it's just kind of something that happens the moment someone gets upset you're too popular

[indigo wadi]

People are just so unhinged online.

[charred wolf]

It's not just online, I've noticed this type of behavior seep into the real world.

[indigo wadi]

Like what happened to just enjoying life?

[spare topaz]

unfortunately its working, even in this very chatroom. Consider this; we are all engaging as a result of it. We're all under the sway of the God Algori, and whether we like it or not we are all doing its bidding

[thin geyser]

While I fight for online anonymity-- it's partly due to the fact that people think a screen name shields their identity enough that they can get away with whatever they want

[indigo wadi]

What happened to society to go down this route?

[indigo wadi]

And then there's the dark web

[forest glacier]

Channel point redeem to timeout other users but for the general internet access. XD

[jolly sky]

This is certainly a factor IMO

[shadow dawn]

People have always been like that

[indigo wadi]

True

[indigo wadi]

Guess it's more spotlighted now

[spare topaz]

oooof....do you want the short, or the long version? cos if long i may need to check how strong your understanding of Adam Smith's wealth of nations is, and how clued up you are on the commoditisation of private leisure that transpired during the course of the middle of the last century 😅

[shadow dawn]

You just didnt hear them from across the globe

[thin geyser]

Humans have the power to be very good, very bad, and/or very neutral. People everywhere have always taken advantage of this power.

[charred wolf]

Bah, this is why I tend to look to the moon instead.

[indigo wadi]

P A S S,

Roflmao

[forest glacier]

still laughing at the idea of democratically voting on putting someone on the internet in timeout XD

[thin geyser]

lol

[jolly sky]

Engaging is fine, discussing it is fine. We're not taking action on it which is the more important part.

[trail crater]

off topic apparently hot glue can burn a pretty deep hole in your skin

[spare topaz]

hahaha, then ill gift you the short one, which is a quote from Brennan Lee Mulligan: "it turns out that the bad guy is always capitalism"

[thin geyser]

uhhhhhh, Crit, buddy, did you burn yourself? Do you need medical attention?

[shadow dawn]

What did you do!? Are you okay?

[indigo wadi]

Roflmao, fair

[trail crater]

Yes I'm okay, I did it a week ago but the scab is coming off and I didnt reallize how deep it was

[jolly sky]

I've said this before, and I think it holds up.

I think one thing people don't realise is that evolutionarily, we're still in tribe mode. Our brains are still wired for small social groups, "The Village", and have been in that mode for 10's of thousands of years.

We haven't evolved far enough as a species to properly communicate and understand the other "Tribes" of the world, yet we have full access to almost all of them if we so choose. But technology has "brute forced" us into this way.

[charred wolf]

I won't say it's black and white. I sincerely believe this has become extremely more common as a direct result from social media gratifying this kind of behavior. I just happen to be in the fine line where I watched where kids in my school decided to start instigating solely for the purpose of making a video from it.

[thin geyser]

High enough temperatures will basically ||melt human flesh||

[forest glacier]

mmmm yes we love a good napalm injury in the morning...

[indigo wadi]

Yeah that sounds about right

[thin geyser]

that's what a third degree burn is

[shadow dawn]

Listen, i want to believe we are more evolved than we were 500 years ago, but you know what this sort of thing was always called and still is?

Witch hunts

[charred wolf]

You're speaking in extremes.

[indigo wadi]

Different style of witch hunts

[thin geyser]

Isn't Swatting someone pretty damn extreme?

[trail crater]

Thats pretty much what happened, I just didnt realize it was that bad when I did it. I still kept it clean and left the blister on as long as it would stay tho

[jolly sky]

And I think that theory has far more ramifications than just cultural acceptance on a global scale, I think it's purveying into social media and those groups too. I think it has a wide reaching scale both large and small

[trail crater]

ong tho

[forest glacier]

You dont really get an idea for what its like until it happens lol

Hot sticky substances... the human NOPE sauce

Lava is Human NOPE sauce and you cant change my mind now

[thin geyser]

you don't Swat someone you don't mind killing; you go into Swatting someone knowing a Swat team is likely to just outright kill people

[trail crater]

ironically this isnt even the worst burn I've had. I've got a grease burn scar on my arm that literally melted the nerves when it did it

[shadow dawn]

This entire situation is rather extreme, no?
Im not saying everyone joins in, but the few loud ones are the ones with the pointy stuff

[thin geyser]

this is fantastically worded

[shadow dawn]

Sad, but true, yeah

[forest glacier]

everyone loves a good pointy thing

[charred wolf]

Yes, there is indeed instamces of witch hunts involved in this, but it is not what the entire thing is about or what it involves.

We can't just make blanket statements over different types of people who have reacted to this differently, some more or less intelligently than others.

I wouldn't go as far as to say the people surrounding r/lsf want thor erased from this realm.

[jolly sky]

I think this addresses that sentence

#streamchat message

[charred wolf]

Yeah, I get that. I'm adding my clarity.

[jolly sky]

Valid

[scenic palm]

Most people just find the clips funny

[thin geyser]

Isn't it, though?
Witch hunts occurred because enough people in the society at large got together and decided that one particular person was too odd or at fault for something humans can't normally do, and thus gathered a squad together to lynch them.
In this instance, a group of people decided together that Thor in particular committed an act that he doesn't actually have power over, and thus gathered a squad together to lynch him (he literally got police called to go swat him).

I'd say it's pretty comparable, and barely speaking in an extreme.

[shadow dawn]

Absolutely not, 100% agree with you
I wasnt talking about the situation as: this guy reacted to that and this guy made a video about it, they are all part of the witch hunt
I am talking about the hateful, very loud minority that thinks SWATTING somebody is a thing they should be doing, those guys are witch hunting

The problem is the bystander- syndrome

[charred wolf]

That's fair.

[thin geyser]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect

(for those who don't know what that means)

[dry fractal]

Hey I'm sorry if this has already been talked about and nobody else wants to talk about it anymore but what's going on now what is this DMCA stuff I keep hearing about

[jolly sky]

Yea, the people who think this is just a funny thing, when in actuality it can get far nastier than that (not saying that happens in all cases, but in this case its 100% the truth of it)

[shadow dawn]

Thank you, i was just looking for that

[indigo wadi]

Nothing it was a community strike

[jolly sky]

One was a completely valid DMCA over someone using Thors Voice in a game

The Youtuber one wasn't a DMCA, but was Youtube taking down the video because it went against their Guidelines.

[thin geyser]

No problem. Figured the "syndrome" and hyphen there might've been a clue

[forest glacier]

you know, brain barf here, but maybe thats because helping someone else in a more wild tribal setting could put us in a vulnerable position.. instinct stuff.,

[dry fractal]

Wow I actually got a reply instead of being mocked of is this what a good community is like

[forest glacier]

lol

[shadow dawn]

Its also the sad fact that silence will often be taken as agreement, so all those "very intelligent people"? They think the silent people are agreeing with them

[jolly sky]

This is what happens when a good person attracts good people, and makes sure to perpetuate it at any moment he gets.

[spare topaz]

Welcome bud

[thin geyser]

You're not entirely wrong-- but the bystander effect actually more commonly tends to happen due to a mix of shock (freeze response), and/or the assumption that "someone else" is handling the situation already (such as "oh someone else probably already called 911" so 911 never gets called)

[dry fractal]

Anyway from my little bit of research I see that they talked about using his voice is something he had wanted no part of and that's the first strike and then the second one wasn't even him

Is that the basis of it?

[charred wolf]

The bystanders understand and condemn such heinous acts. The problem is that they simultaneously engage in behaviors that only incentivize such.

Nobody is gonna wanna break a bottle over someone's head until they hear they something that would make them feel justified for doing so. Something something, painting a target on someone's back.

[serene spruce]

This is why I take charge in emergency situations. I start giving orders.

[forest glacier]

nobody did what everybody thought somebody would do. kek

[thin geyser]

Well luckily knowing about the bystander effect makes you less likely to fall prey to it!

[jolly sky]

Pretty much. With the first one, the maker of the game was even warned that it would be a legal no-no but did it anyway, and the second one was entirely on Youtube. Thor had zero involvement.

[thin geyser]

It's unfortunately very common especially in curcumstances where an ambulance is needed. Never think to yourself that someone else probably already did something if you see an emergency unfolding.

[woven violet]

So I just woke up (Aussie timezone is a thing) and was going to listen to the vod while working on stuff.... it got nuked?

[dry fractal]

This just tells me that the TikTok comments are so toxic

Thanks for all that info

[shadow dawn]

VODS dont exist right now because LSF is still at it with the clipping out of context

[thin geyser]

When aren't they?

[charred wolf]

It's juvenile, what do you expect?

[jolly sky]

Tiktok, Youtube, Reddit, Twitch etc. Don't trust information from third parties.

[forest glacier]

LSF got involved mid-stream

[spare topaz]

everywhere is toxic atm unfortunately :/

[dusky grove]

Oof how bad was it?

[shadow dawn]

Always check and verify

[thin geyser]

unfortunately it means I never got to see my TTS :(

[forest glacier]

its raining clips 🎵

[charred wolf]

Rip

[woven violet]

Ugh. I thought it would be over by now. Oh well.

[spare topaz]

i think its easier to show and not tell - if you check out the front page of the LSF subreddit youll see it has a singular topic once again 🫠

[forest glacier]

oh their finding new things completely irrelevent to WoW to get mad at Thor for despite having no involvement. Looks like this might be a thing for a while

[charred wolf]

I believed it would've blown over a week ago as well.

[terse hedge]

Thor does know he can disable clipping in his channel yeah?

[charred wolf]

However, the paint has dried.

[forest glacier]

Which is what I said the last time he streamed WoW. I said and I quote "Ive got a REALLY really bad feeling about this"

[charred wolf]

People can still screen record

[indigo wadi]

That does require active watching

[spare topaz]

hes restricted it now, but as hes said on stream before, every restriction cuts off parts of the community and hes not happy about it

[dry fractal]

Idk about the YouTube ones, they have been tame from what I've seen on the shorts

[shadow dawn]

I think the "problem" is that Thor didnt just roll over and let them kick him with no repercussions, so ~they took that personally~

[charred wolf]

You underestimate how dedicated hate watchers are.

All it takes is one person, sends the clip onto reddit.

[terse hedge]

People can do that live too or re-stream it privately, and with how obsessed these people are I could see it happening. However the more steps it takes to fuel their BS the more will stop bothering

[charred wolf]

Boom.

[jolly sky]

Well that depends entirely on the audience viewing it. You'll see toxic comments on the videos painting Thor in a bad light, for example.

[shadow dawn]

Because yt will actually wipe the heinous one by itself, i think

[charred wolf]

Same story.

[charred wolf]

I wouldn't be surprised if it already happens.

[jolly sky]

I wonder if Thor has enabled the "If you're banned from the Twitch Channel, you can't watch the stream" setting

[charred wolf]

Good question.

[forest glacier]

one sacrifice at a time

[charred wolf]

I wouldn't know if he's the type to would or wouldn't.

[spare topaz]

as far as i know banned can still watch - the restriction hes recently put in is that you cant clip unless youre subbed and youve been a follower for 3 months

[shadow dawn]

He should, this stuff is getting ridiculous

[jolly sky]

Perfect example of this, people buying Heartbound just to leave a negative review since the 13th of January

[charred wolf]

They probably refund immediately after.

But yeah, pretty out of the way nonetheless

[shadow dawn]

You can, i got auto-banned for bad phrasing and could still watch the stream

[forest glacier]

I feel like this should delete the review, idk if it does or not.

[serene valley]

I mean I wouldn't want that if a game was actually a scam

[terse hedge]

Thor living rent free in whiny parasocial chud brains

[charred wolf]

This is why I avoid chatting on big twitch channels. I can be mistaken as a threat.

[forest glacier]

people having 0 hours of playtime refunding the game cant factually tell you of this tho

[charred wolf]

Doesn't help that I reflexively use punctuation.

Ifnits like 200 or so people, they know I'm a buddy.

Not so much when there's 20,000 faces.

[shadow dawn]

Nah that was on me, the rules say no excessive swearing, im pretty sure, and i fd around and found out

[charred wolf]

Oh lol

[serene valley]

literally too ?

[charred wolf]

It should probably be appealable

[forest glacier]

oh are you commenting on that whole thing where zoomers think periods are rude?

[jolly sky]

They'll deny it, but the hate focused stuff is also parasocial

[shadow dawn]

No worries, the mods unbanned me after, like, 2 minutes

[serene valley]

in a chatroom they come across as someone being annoyed

[terse hedge]

One sided relationship with a content creator? About as parasocial as it gets

[serene valley]

in an email or whatever it's like, not that way

[jolly sky]

I. Think. That. Makes. Sense. In. This. Context.

[serene valley]

smh

[charred wolf]

I believe @shrewd quiver was unfortunately banned for being at the wrong time saying a thing that coincidentally happened to be something connected to what happened at lsf. They seemed like a rather sweet person in discord chat so I assume strays are bound to happen.

[forest glacier]

a lot of us can see banned chats so some of us will be whispering Mods or @ ing them or DMing them or ticketing when we see stuff like that happen. I can imagine they dont want a lot of people doing this but I plan on being here long-term, hopefully the mods dont mind TOO much 😛

[shadow dawn]

To be fair, i sound like a stuck up hhh in official stuff, because if they want formal? _ they get formal_

[serene valley]

says moo is in the server

[charred wolf]

I have been mistaken for a hostile person more times than I'd like to admit just because of my punctuation and phrasing.

[charred wolf]

I mean on twitch.

[serene valley]

ah

[shrewd quiver]

yeah it depends on the context. and also how you react on the unban request. just be reasonable and explain the situation

[cobalt sundial]

huh, no VOD from today? there was a stream right?

[forest glacier]

a tip? emojis. emojis take the seriousness right out of a message most times

Khronos gave me that one

[terse hedge]

At least this entire stupid drama crap made realize how lucky I am to choose people I watch carefully and avoid most huge streamers

[spare topaz]

there was indeed, but alas LSF started drama farming halfway through

[shadow dawn]

Nah i think they will tell you if its too much? Because someone did flag Khronos about it immediately and it was all good

[charred wolf]

Not my taste.

[serene valley]

yeah there was but there was a bunch of ragebaiting n stuff about people being unable to read a video got taken down for community guidelines and blaming thor for "dmcaing it", which he didn't do

[charred wolf]

You'd notice I tend to avoid even reacting with emojis.

[cobalt sundial]

LSF?

[scarlet tide]

yes but he's getting hate raided again for somethign that he definately didnt do but they're blaming it on him anyway

[charred wolf]

Appreciate the tip, though!

[cobalt sundial]

ah ha annoying. but understandable.

[spare topaz]

livestreamfail - the subreddit that has basically been the hub for all the hate ever since the dire maul snafu

[forest glacier]

yea, if im NOT helping they tell me, if I am they just stay silent (with me) they might say thanks or something to other tho lol

[scarlet tide]

its now starting to affect viewership

[shadow dawn]

To be fair, if you always type with punctuation? People catch on fast that thats just your typing style

[forest glacier]

I take this as "dont talk about it" honestly. I dont feel bothered lol

[serene valley]

nah apparently fridays are usually already a bit more quiet

[spare topaz]

hes been at a steady 10-12 most this week - todays a friday so im not too surprised it was at 9

[charred wolf]

Can't believe thor burnt our crops, poisoned our water supply, and delivered a plague onto our houses.

[serene valley]

it makes sense tho, the fridays are right after the 2 day break

[scarlet tide]

sure but he never reached 10k at all thats not happened in a long time

[jolly sky]

YES I've been waiting for someone to make that reference

[terse hedge]

Hey don’t joke about that, Ligma is a very serious plague

[shadow dawn]

I always imagine that as silently nodding to each other

[unreal river]

https://tenor.com/view/prince-egypt-of-frogs-hop-jump-gif-14491962

[river island]

There's a snake in his boot

[cobalt sundial]

really, normally people have such small attention spans online, OFC drama/bs is what keeps it. sigh

[charred wolf]

Yes, well said. I do meet people who simply don't get the memo, though. I do feel the fault is mine because I don't exactly scream "warm and approachable".

[shadow dawn]

He stole,,, us,,,, metaphorically

[kindred holly]

Love to see a Prince of Egypt gif here

[charred wolf]

There's no way I'm the first person to do it.

[unreal river]

yeh love that ol' movie. good stuff.

[jolly sky]

You said it, I gotta post it now. Remember, you did this

[spare topaz]

he was above 10 monday & tuesday so i wouldnt read anything into it tbh

[scarlet tide]

i mean it's not just LSF - the swatting, threatening friends and family thats classic KF

[kindred holly]

That's my favorite animated film next to Iron Giant

[charred wolf]

Very funny.

[jolly sky]

Looking for that specific phrase, I've not seen it. Maybe it was posted in Gif form

[forest glacier]

how many grams woody had since last night?

[river island]

Feel that image is older than some people in this chat

[spare topaz]

as soon as that guild finishes its death spiral itll all hopefully calm back down again

[unreal river]

Nah it's just how the days work and schedules, etc. I've seen other say oh noes he's losing his viewerbase XD Go check out those twitch tracker sites and his numbers have barely changed.

[charred wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mad-meme-plague-he-poisoned-water-supply-burnt-our-crops-and-deliver-gif-10420279

[jolly sky]

"He did that?"

"No, but are we going to wait around until he does!?"

[unreal river]

I remember a hater saying thor is losing all his viewers. I go check a tracker site and no...not really lol

[charred wolf]

Someone asked if he was viewbotting in one of his balatro streams because he had 14.1k viewers at the time.

[jolly sky]

Yea its pretty ancient in internet terms lmao

[thin geyser]

You know, this gif reminds me of the age-old Jewish argument of the translated potential typo in the Torah-- that it actually says the frog plague was one singular frog.

[charred wolf]

It's almost like he's a well known figure in the streaming space playing a trending game.

[river island]

Literally LSF XD

[charred wolf]

So true

[shadow dawn]

Thats on them then.
Honestly? From the combination of profile pic, typing style and user name i get aristocrat from a snowy country vibes! So the "not so approachable, but still friendly" fits

I mean this in a 100% positive way, sorry if im stepping on your toes here,,,

[forest glacier]

LSF is fish brain... got it

lol

[unreal river]

Who knew that the game a streamer plays has a high chance of effecting their daily popularity! Oh wow!

[river island]

Pretty much

[charred wolf]

Oh, you hit the nail on the head with that one.

I was waiting till someone drew similar parallels.

[spare topaz]

his streams legitimately caused me to buy balatro, a game i had no previous interest in playing, and now i have almost 20 hours in it...send help 😂

[unreal river]

https://tenor.com/view/summoning-jutsu-naruto-toad-gif-16257460

[thin geyser]

made me laugh XD

[jolly sky]

Lmao imagine an already popular streamer, playing a popular game thats, well not easy to follow but easy to watch, getting a lot of views

[terse hedge]

God the guild can’t tear itself apart faster with the constant drama and infighting. Once it’s dead people will move on and forget. And hopefully many content creators will learn to stay away from it and its leadership

[charred wolf]

I tuned into his balatro streams mainly because it's content I personally enjoy watching. I don't find much appeal in his aoc stuff ( I try with that one ), the coding stuff just bounces off of me. So I just wait until he's playing a game I think is cool.

[unreal river]

A streamer playing something recent and popular means they ge tmore viewers?! WOW!

[thin geyser]

I actually remember when the leadership swapped over to someone else, and everyone in the guild talked (onstream) about how they were nervous about it and knew the new guy in charge was the dramatic type

[kindred holly]

I haven't watched his Balatro streams much because I don't understand the game and I never played it, lol

[unreal river]

Agreed! I find the AoC only interesting cause it gives him more time to talk about other stuff.

The Balatro was fun to watch as I hadn't watched much of it.

[jolly sky]

I literally have no clue about Balatro, and wondered if tuning in would fill me in any.

Nope.

[unreal river]

And the WoW stuff? Honestly I don't care for the game so I barely watched any of his streams of it.

[kindred holly]

I think today was the most I've really watched Thor's streams because of Heartbound, but then the harassments started happening.

[charred wolf]

I'm a bit of a strategy addict so balatro is right up my alley.

[forest glacier]

lookin at the one guy in Twitch chat thinkin, " 🎵 all BY YOUR SELF"

[kindred holly]

I've been listening to Yearjoy's streams a lot for the past month.

[spare topaz]

i completely get the viewpoint - i personally like AoC but i was very much in that spot you are when he went full on into WoW

[charred wolf]

I would LOVE to teach you.

[unreal river]

@jolly sky Maybe when Wilds come out Thor is suddenly mainline it lol

Would be hilarious if it happened.

[serene valley]

tbh with WoW I just had the stream running to get the channel points

[jolly sky]

While I appreciate it, I'm happy to continue looking at it from the outside

[serene valley]

had the tab muted tho

[charred wolf]

I really try enjoying mmos, it's difficult when people can be uh...

Ill-mannered to put it simply.

[forest glacier]

I came here for the Vibe idc what the content is

[jolly sky]

Now THAT is what I'm waiting for. I also hope he plays a bit of World to get back into the swing of things

[spare topaz]

for some truly spicey broken builds, RTGame did some fantastically funny videos on it - he and his community collectively broke the game so badly they got a score of NaNINF

[charred wolf]

I played a bit of albion

I destroyed 3 guilds by simply existing.

[spare topaz]

more than fair!

[unreal river]

https://tenor.com/view/toxic-britney-spears-dont-you-know-that-youre-toxic-poison-gif-23192854

lol

You can say the t-word it's okay.

[charred wolf]

Two of them were well-established and existed for years.

[spare topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-strong-buff-ripped-gif-24036188

[charred wolf]

Let's just say I was the straw that stirred the camel's drink.

[kindred holly]

I grew up playing some MMOs like DCU Online, SWoTOR, and Destiny 1 but now I'm 26 and I don't have patience for it. I just want to chill and feel things.

[thin geyser]

Mood. Got curb-stomped once too many times here, too. It's one of the many reasons why I love Warframe-- a kind MMO?!

[shadow dawn]

Most mmos are just barrens chat nowadays, so very, uhhh,,,,
special

And not the good kind

[charred wolf]

Lol

[unreal river]

I played so many mmos when I was younger. I think I had a list of over 40+ at one point lol

[terse hedge]

FFXIV is the only MMO I’ve stuck with since I never have to worry about bad actors. Moderation in FFXIV is pretty good

[thin geyser]

Warframe is also 98% cooperative so I bet that helps

[unreal river]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-gauss-prime-prime-warframe-speed-gif-12485080997186680737

[forest glacier]

Like... Everything is just so and here its just funny memes, cool games, and talking about shit like decent emotionally-intelligent human beans. Theres no reason for me NOT to tune in 😛

[kindred holly]

Crap I forgot I played Warframe briefly! I remember it was like Destiny but WAY better

[thin geyser]

It is definitely like Destiny except way better

[shadow dawn]

Can you guys believe it, tho?
I actually remember a time when WoW wasnt an absolute cesspool

[thin geyser]

there's also a completely optional dating sim in it now :U

[spare topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/elrond-lotr-lord-of-the-tings-lord-elrond-3000years-gif-13229890

[charred wolf]

Okay so with the first one, I was involved in a conflict between two people because one of the guys couldn't handle the waybthings ran around here and dropped his guild tag and started slaughtering people. I was playing arcane mage (shielder) and caught flare for shielding him (I was shielding everyone near me, including the people he was trying to kill because I couldn't fully understand what was happening at the time and just wanted to play damage control)

[forest glacier]

Oh yea I watched Wow on my parents PC in the single digit 2000's

[charred wolf]

Gbis led to the guild fracturing in their own beliefs, eventually destroying the guild.

[unreal river]

tbh it was there quite likely you just didn't see it lol

[shadow dawn]

Pretty much

[kindred holly]

God, that's so weird to think about. For most of my life, I've known it to be an obsessive cesspool.

[spare topaz]

oh wow, that sounds like a rough situation to find yourself in the middle of O.o

[thin geyser]

my best friend in middle school had parents who were Horde obsessed for YEARS-- it was a sad day when her mom's license plate changed

[unreal river]

Any game that has hundreds or thousands of players in the same room at the same time will have some portion of toxic peeps.

[charred wolf]

It was my first week in the game.

[kindred holly]

My brother used to apparently play it RELIGIOUSLY when it first came out. Like he would pull overnighters with his old college friends.

[shadow dawn]

No, no there absolutely was those kind of people
But waaaay less than now

[charred wolf]

I destroyed a guild that existed for around 18 months simply by existing.

[spare topaz]

jesus thats incredibly rough then!!

[charred wolf]

My friends were laughing their asses off, man.

[rain hazel]

totally didn't do a 24hr stint on the beta when it was out hides

[charred wolf]

The 2nd one was way less direct but the guild existed for 2+ years and decided to retire after an embarrassing guild war loss

I was in that guild for about 3 weeks.

I was in about my 3rd month into the game

After seeing a 3rd guild break after being in for 4 DAYS

I decided enough was enough and quit the game.

[shadow dawn]

But correlation isnt causation!
The cracks were probably already there in the second case, you just joined in the dyimg throes

[charred wolf]

People can hardly get along in mmos

No matter how agreeable you are.

[charred wolf]

I agree.

[shadow dawn]

True

[unreal river]

Can't we all just get along like EVE players?

[charred wolf]

I wouldn't say I caused it, I definitely think I played a significant role in the 1st and 3rd one.

[thin geyser]

Doesn't change the fact that that's a terrible starting game experience.

[unreal river]

One day you're a bestie the next you're a nemesis.

[shadow dawn]

Oh absolutely

[spare topaz]

Your resume is both unfortunate and deeply impressive in equal measure - are you sure you aren't the MMO equivalent of one of The Fates?

[thin geyser]

(nothing against Eve players or the game itself) god I hate EVE

[charred wolf]

This. My most positive social interactions in Albion were help chat and some really nice people in guilds, or my friends.

[unreal river]

I think the thing about EVE is just that it's realistic in a sense.

You wanna kill someone in the streets? You can.

[thin geyser]

why would I want to do spreadsheets in my escapism

[unreal river]

You wanna backstab your best friend for all their shit? Go for it.

[charred wolf]

The global chat is garbage

Do NOT even read it.

They say things that I have legitimately never seen before.

[unreal river]

EVE is the closest you'll get till we have our actual corporate wars lol

[spare topaz]

[Factorio and Satisfactory players will remember this]

[unreal river]

Cuz if you arne't a part of the big boys then you're effed lol

[charred wolf]

My best friend plays eve mostly solo.

[thin geyser]

I don't play those either for the same reason. Not my cup of tea XD

[unreal river]

I remember our lil pve corp being shut in by merc forces who camped us.

We could barely play for a month.

[shadow dawn]

People tried to grief me recently in WoW HC, because my brother refuses to go Instas if im not there, so the obvious choice was to try and get me murked

[charred wolf]

Either way, that's why I quit Albion. It was very difficult to find a proper foothold, even though I did meet rather compassionate, considerate, and well-meaning people.

[thin geyser]

I went to a college full of engineers and research scientists. Trust me when I say I do love engineering and research topics-- but I don't want them in my escapisms

[spare topaz]

hehe thats fair!

[unreal river]

So yahhh I don't recommend EVE unless you love to PVP honestly. Otherwise you gotta find a big corp to umbrella you.

[charred wolf]

I swear lol, my friends joke like I'm some sort of bad omen but I think it's more reasonable to think that's just how things go in mmos like these.

[unreal river]

[charred wolf]

It's just a matter of time till people can no longer tolerate each other.

[thin geyser]

I'm also the kind of person who yells about how I don't want Tony Hawk Pro Skater in my space ninja laser fantasy [refuses to do Yareli quests in Warframe]

[charred wolf]

The most positive mmo experience I ever had was in a small indie project in the works.

[thin geyser]

but every player is different!

[unreal river]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-hawk-pro-skater-skateboarding-video-game-gamer-gif-11429189

[spare topaz]

oh for sure - MMOs operate at hyperspeed - things fall apart and are rebuilt a hundred times before breakfast

[thin geyser]

I'm serious I hate the K drives so much dude

[unreal river]

I agree, i tried and tried and I just couldn't get the hang of it.

[thin geyser]

it's EXACTLY like Tony Hawk Pro Skater--including all the bad parts

[unreal river]

so true

[thin geyser]

thank GOD we have motorcycles now

[charred wolf]

It makes sense. It felt like I was some secondary character to some sort of college drama series.

[spare topaz]

hell yea - itd be boring otherwise!

[unreal river]

Besides playing EVE as my mmo horror story the next one is like being part of a large warframe guild.

[charred wolf]

In here trying to have my own good time, ideally with people.

I'm*

[unreal river]

Imagine a PVE guild merging with a PVP guild...

[charred wolf]

I see extremely skilled, talented, and tactical people try to cannibalize each other over simple mistakes.

[unreal river]

IT WAS BAD.

[thin geyser]

PVP guild?!?!?!? in WARFRAME?!?!

[unreal river]

and I'm talking preteen cod lobby pvp guild.

ikr!

[thin geyser]

THoSE EXIST???

[unreal river]

yehhh

[thin geyser]

[charred wolf]

I'll probably return to Albion someday but not anytime soon. The game has its non-social issues that put me off.

The big thing is that it feels like half the things you do in the game exist to bloat your time.

[unreal river]

The day 1 of the merge and the 2nd in command of the pvp guild told our guild master to do suck it...

[thin geyser]

what do they do, Conclave and nothing but Conclave?!

[unreal river]

The guild leader of the pvp guild also was one of those "oh but their my friends! i can't scold them!".

I was one of the higher ups in the pve guild and trying to make things work was just horrendous.

It just wouldn't work.

The pvp leader wouldn't do jack squat and the rest of the pvp guild were your typical pre-teen hyped up on cod lobby kiddos.

I eventually couldn't handle it as even our leader wouldn't admit it was a big mistake so I quit both the guild and the game.

[thin geyser]

I mean-- that's gotta be a hard level of bad to work up to for Warframe

[charred wolf]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/929220138824261652/1259718997788721254/Screen_Recording_20240707_234302_Born_Again.mp4?ex=679e437d&is=679cf1fd&hm=1ccc333427b7c042fffe39920664cf0e5cd63791206eac1aed2c880ce0460286&

[unreal river]

oh yah it was baaaaad

[charred wolf]

Here's an MMO I've been following for a while that I've thoroughly enjoyed.

[thin geyser]

-squints- is that Realm of the Mad God?

[charred wolf]

It's largely inspired by Eastern folklore and history

[charred wolf]

It's inspired by it

[unreal river]

I was about to ask that too as it looks very similar.

[kindred holly]

Yep, bullet hells are not for me, lol

[unreal river]

same lol

[charred wolf]

Kind the compression

[kindred holly]

Which is why I'm scared of playing Undertale, lol

[unreal river]

I don't might light bullet hell but that looks a bit much for me

[kindred holly]

I love the story but the bullet hell segments will kill me

[unreal river]

https://tenor.com/view/ikaruga-shoot-em-up-treasure-game-shooter-gif-23019160

Then again I remember playing this lol

[kindred holly]

It's like playing TLOU, I love the story and the characters, but I'm awful at steath games

[charred wolf]

This was the tankiest build in the game at the time, fighting one of the most threatening targets in the game.

[thin geyser]

TOUHOU???

[charred wolf]

Unfortunately, it's not invincible: as much as it feels like it.

[charred wolf]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1185472741332234271/1263936935488000021/Screenshot_20240719_151316_Born_Again.jpg?ex=679e7280&is=679d2100&hm=a214922a13ecbbc38259fc9c4e8a1c7d1ab3b2ce1e4a527f27d6657ae71b854d&

[unreal river]

Ikaruga. It was on the gamecube.

[shadow dawn]

Im currently working my way through a terraria mod that makes most bosses bullet hell, so i think i like them

[thin geyser]

that looks WEIRDLY like a touhou game!

[unreal river]

You changed your ship color to absorb bullets of the same color.

I mean a lot of bullet hells are based on touhou i wanna say

[thin geyser]

it's the laser shapes mostly

[charred wolf]

Not every bullet hell is touhou

[lyric shard]

have yal checked any of the game submissions for the jam? looking for any outstanding submissions

[charred wolf]

Refer to uh

Gungeon

[lunar moth]

Back during my high school days, I had a classmate that was a lil'bit obsessed with Touhou that it became kinda like a competition at my school
It ended up with several of them playing the madness (or whatever it was called) difficulty so much that at one point one of them did a blind run where they completed it just based off the music

[kindred holly]

It's just overwhelming for me and really hard to keep track of. It's the same reason why while I love Smash Bros with friends, it's tough for me to follow at times.

[unreal river]

That's why I said "a lot" and not "every".

[lunar moth]

I had bonkers classmates

[thin geyser]

I don't think they are--but the shapes of the lasers are sometimes wildly specific

[shadow dawn]

Probably an inspiration for a lot of them

[unreal river]

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-player-rain-bullet-hell-avoid-gif-25730203

[thin geyser]

I never tried Jevil, lol

[charred wolf]

It's nit really him

Not&

It's a mod that triples his attack pattern.

[shadow dawn]

Thank you for explaining

[thin geyser]

jesus

[charred wolf]

The clip is a tas that no-hits it

[thin geyser]

also "not every bullet hell is touhou" has a similar flavor to "not every rhythm game is DDR"

[charred wolf]

The clip is not sped up.

[thin geyser]

WHAT

[charred wolf]

Hold on, let me find the video.

[shadow dawn]

Both are equally true statements that most people dont want to hear

[thin geyser]

I would be scared of the human that it was otherwise

[charred wolf]

https://youtu.be/psdrTa82mss?si=b6vYok9CTvqyqVSC

[jolly sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8VOgIEbE1Q

[charred wolf]

It is technically possible.

[thin geyser]

I mean as a rhythm gamer-- XD

[charred wolf]

But these are inhuman movements.

Undertale, and by extention deltarune has a community infamous for making unnecessarily difficult bullet hells.

[jolly sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5hGxIcCevY

Replacing it with this as it doesn't feature the growl

[thin geyser]

rhythm games are usually either "move thing to timing" or "hit button to timing" so technically one hit kill FPS shooters are rhythm games

[charred wolf]

When the games themselves are relatively easy and accessible.

[gaunt remnant]

Metal Hellsinger

[thin geyser]

-looks this up-

I figured it had to be a rhythm FPS

this looks sick though

[gaunt remnant]

It is sick

Love Metal Hellsinger

Listen to the OST it's genuinely insane

[thin geyser]

I'm a Beat Saber player--I've been eyeing Until You Fall for a while now

[gaunt remnant]

If you like metal, the OST is the made by the amazing composers known as Two Feathers, and all songs are sung by actual real metal singers like Serj Tankian

[charred wolf]

Lol

Yeah, this doesn't even scratch the surface of how insane bullet hell fanatics can be.

[thin geyser]

honestly I'm not a huge metal fan despite being an electric guitarist??? I feel like that's weird. Is that weird?

[unreal river]

no not really

[shadow dawn]

Bullet hells my beloved

[unreal river]

electric guitar =/= metal

[charred wolf]

These are not sane people, friend.

[gaunt remnant]

You can be an electric guitarist and like other genres that use electric guitar like rock or even some kinds of mixed electro

[thin geyser]

I am partly kidding but yes

[charred wolf]

Modders are honestly insane people.

[unreal river]

no this is in the internet everything is taken 200% seriously

[charred wolf]

There's a reason things usually don't come in games.

Unless you're noita

[thin geyser]

I'm an electric guitarist in an alt band-- mostly grunge in particular

[charred wolf]

Or cruelty squad.

Some developers are simply mad.

[thin geyser]

our lead guitarist LOVES metal and math rock though--puts a lot of pieces of it into our music

[shadow dawn]

To be fair, i looked at an absolutely insane attack pattern in a terraria mod and went "i wanna beat that" so my sanity may be questionable

[thin geyser]

love what she does with it though

[unreal river]

or sadists lol

[charred wolf]

Checks out.

I had a multi-player run where we played insane difficulty

You know, secret seed

[unreal river]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-dog-the-situation-im-in-rn-gif-12202597808913004719

[charred wolf]

We had such a miserable time fighting the secret boss that we determined it was easier to do Duke pre mech

Which we did.

[shadow dawn]

YES THAT ONE

[charred wolf]

Pre mech Duke on insane diff

[unreal river]

Why am I not surprised it's calamity

[charred wolf]

Oh, modded terraria is truly far gone.

[unreal river]

I played like an hour of that mod and then heard what to expect and I instantly uninstalled it.

[shadow dawn]

because its calamity

[charred wolf]

Fargo? More like far gone.

[gaunt remnant]

CalamityMod is amazing

[unreal river]

Like nahhh base terraria can already get messy but I ain't touching calamity.

I'm not that much of a masochist lol

[gaunt remnant]

It's like Thorium but with content

[shadow dawn]

I wanna do that one too, but one at a time!

[unreal river]

and I've played 5+ years of enjoying the grind of WF.

[charred wolf]

Just you wait until what the next update does in 2036.

[thin geyser]

I like puzzle, I like rhythm, I like action.... hmm.

[charred wolf]

There are people who run ever major terraria mod at once.

Anyway, gotta bounce.

[unreal river]

Actually the one from a year ago that contains the Dead Cell crossover is supposed to be this year.

Ciao Frost nice chatting with ya

[thin geyser]

[charred wolf]

Likewise.

[shadow dawn]

Fargo breaks other mods very easily, but yes,,, eventually,,,

[unreal river]

I think Terraria got another crossover announced too? So unless their combining that one too thre's at least ANOTHER final-final-final-final update.

[gaunt remnant]

They have the Dead Cells crossover that should've been released like 2 years ago, but Red said "No I want to add 1000 more items in my game" because this man loves his game to death

[shadow dawn]

Hope you have a great day/night, friend!

[unreal river]

Yes that's the one that supposed to be coming this year lol

The next crossover they announced sometime last winter was for pal World.

So yahhh Terraria is the game that'll never end lol

[thin geyser]

whatever happened to Nintendo sueing them, anyway?

[gaunt remnant]

There's a Terraria x Palworld crossover? I didn't hear about this

[unreal river]

https://www.polygon.com/gaming/501375/palworld-feybreak-update-expansion-terraria-crossover-collaboration-meowmere

[gaunt remnant]

Except if it's called Terraria: Otherworld which didn't even start

[shadow dawn]

I gonna be honest, i never really check for terraria updates and just get surprised when theres actual updates

[unreal river]

I don't think it really went anywhere. I know Pal World changed up how you bring out your pokemon and that might've been enough to stop it all.

[unreal river]

well it started. we did see some mini-clips of gameplay but yah i'm not too surprised they scrapped that.

Terrria but based around towers? ehhhh

[gaunt remnant]

Sounds like Starbound

[unreal river]

It felt a bit like some of those fake mobile games. Where you build towers to push back the darkness and build stuff around them.

[thin geyser]

I mean it was also very clearly Prior Art but I don't know how well that holds up in Japan

[gaunt remnant]

Even if supervised by Red, Terraria can't be Terraria if it isn't directly developped by Re-Logic

[thin geyser]

They might've dropped it thanks to something like the Palworld people pointing to the game they'd made before Legends: Arceus that had the same exact mechanic?

[gaunt remnant]

Wanting to edit the game and have it developped by their consoles ports devs was a terrible idea

[unreal river]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1HpkvoMXnw

Mind you it looks a bit too much like Starbound.

[gaunt remnant]

I hate Starbound with a passion

[unreal river]

Same.

[gaunt remnant]

I backed the game and it was so disappointing on release

[shadow dawn]

Thats what i thought too, back when i saw the first few clips

[unreal river]

lol was about the say the same

[gaunt remnant]

And it kept getting more disappointing over time, which I don't even know how is possible

[thin geyser]

which one was the onne with a predatory ship buying method?

[unreal river]

I too was one of the unfortunate founders.

Star Citizen?

[thin geyser]

yeah that's it

I had a friend who spent thousands on star citizen

[unreal river]

Oof

They win lol

[shadow dawn]

Oh no

[jagged skiff]

okay after catching up on the talk here

I gotta say....

[unreal river]

Considering they raised millions of dollars for that game. The end result is piss poor.

[jagged skiff]

calamity infernum difficulty isn't that bad :V

It's just pattern memorization, there's no real RNG in the attacks lol

[gaunt remnant]

Starbound could've been amazing but the game felt confused about what it wanted to do. It wanted to be its own thing, to be Terraria and Minecraft all at once

[shadow dawn]

I mean if you know what youre doing? Probably? But im not so

[unreal river]

Sounds like how I feel about Fallout 76 too.

[gaunt remnant]

I don't really play Fallout and all I heard about 76 was just bad so that's my only knowledge of the game

[jagged skiff]

granted I've played so much modded terraria that in vanilla, Master difficulty feels...simple

[unreal river]

It suffers from the same issue of "This feels like it should've been singleplayer" but the devs wanted mmorpg.

[shadow dawn]

Thats true, but consider: internet causes lag spikes for me quite often, so all the pattern recognition in the world will not help me

[shadow dawn]

Oof, yeah

[gaunt remnant]

Master on release felt ridiculously hard, and now that I've gotten used to it I'm gaslighting myself thinking they must've nerfed it

[jagged skiff]

y'know what, fair enough, infernum isn't exactly designed for MP so I can see that causing....issues

[jagged skiff]

YES exactly lmao

[gaunt remnant]

I remember on release day doing a multiplayer game with friends, and we all got trapped in a death loop in spawn because a graveyard formed

Good times

[unreal river]

ohno

[jagged skiff]

lol, I still remember how good I felt the first time dropping the Wall of Flesh on master, it was like overcoming a massive wall

:V

[unreal river]

https://tenor.com/view/kaneda-drakira-akira-tetsuo-amatic-gif-15000343

[jagged skiff]

a friend and I did it recently and were super confused about how easy it felt

[unreal river]

I remember doing the Queen of Light during the day and killing her first try lol

Yet I try it again after and I just get pwned.

So there's my Terraria luck used up.

[kindred holly]

I heard grunge, I have been summoned

[jagged skiff]

turns out a bunch of playing calamity mod in death mode with the get fixed boi seed makes everything else easier lol

[unreal river]

I'm so glad they made it easier to get the blink rod too after so many years.

[gaunt remnant]

I'm terrible at dodging in Terraria or any bullet hell for that matter. I don't think I've ever managed to beat the Queen of Light in daytime? I'm not sure

That's why I play tank in MP

[shadow dawn]

You just start counting your blessings

[unreal river]

You pretty much stacked equips that could save you from hits and death.

[gaunt remnant]

And eat shit in solo (I'm not that bad but I'm average)

[unreal river]

You couldn't tank her though lol

Cuz her day mode = 1 hit kills

[jagged skiff]

that's what titanium armor is for~....or was it adamantite

one of the two lets you take One hit lol

[unreal river]

Tracking down her damn butterflies were a pain in the arse.

I think that took longer than the fights themselves lol

[gaunt remnant]

I haven't played since the Shimmer update, I'm waiting for "1.5" to release to play again

I'm missing all the new achievements and it's unacceptable

[jagged skiff]

once Spirit Mod finally got updated to 1.4 I started playing it more. Despite calamity adding a ton more stuff, Spirit is just my favorite

[forest glacier]

Theres so much to read back on now that streamchat is genchat2

lol

[gaunt remnant]

I never heard of Spirit Mod, it looks cool

[shadow dawn]

Really? They kept/keep spawning everywhere for me, which is terrible because i just wanna make my world look pretty in peace

[jagged skiff]

though a bunch of stuff isn't in it anymore, no more having to gather a billion spirit elements in different biomes to craft realllllly good gear

[shadow dawn]

Sorry, we got into terraria mods

[jagged skiff]

yeah it's really nice, I'd say it's somewhere between Thorium and Calamity in terms of difficulty~

[forest glacier]

A lot more than that happened while I was away lol

[gaunt remnant]

Terraria is like Warframe. You never quit it, you can only temporarily leave it

[unreal river]

RNG being RNG as usual lol

Though yah I'm sur eif you have a lot of the sparkly sparkly mlp zone then there's a lot of 'em.

It was tricky that they were timegated too.

[jagged skiff]

It takes forever for me to find the damn butterflies, yet I have roughly an infinite amount of truffle worms soooooo

[shadow dawn]

That got removed!? I might just play spirit mod again

[unreal river]

Think it was between 10pm and midnight?

[unreal river]

You're going to be waiting much longer since we're only up to 1.4.5 lol

[thin geyser]

[shadow dawn]

Something like that, ye

[forest glacier]

Hi! Im Sherpaorc and I quit Terraria! XD (I 100% had more hours tho this isnt my only steam account and idek that I always played Terraria thru steam or not )

[gaunt remnant]

Yeah it's called 1.4.5 but it's 1.5 let's be honest

[unreal river]

Hmmm Terrria 970 hrs vs my Warframe's 2700 hrs.

[unreal river]

Nice copium lmao. THERE WILL BE MOAR!

Terraria will never end.

[shadow dawn]

I have the short term memory of a gold fish, i forgor

[jagged skiff]

less than I was expecting but hey~

[unreal river]

It'll be like NMS and get updates for another 10 years.

[forest glacier]

Yo butthead! /j

[gaunt remnant]

Oops

[jagged skiff]

I will never get the fishing achievements lol

[gaunt remnant]

I might've played a lot of Warframe too

[thin geyser]

somehow my own warframe hours suddenly feel inadequate...

[unreal river]

BWUAHAHAHAH!

[shadow dawn]

Ehehe, i already have them

[jagged skiff]

DotA 2 is still my most played steam game, at a little over 4k hours but I haven't played it (beyond the very occasional match or two with a friend) in like 5-6 years lol

[unreal river]

It took me a year of on and off playing to get that 200 fishing achievo.

Finally I can tell that lil kid to suck it XD

[thin geyser]

[forest glacier]

I specifically remember being surprised Terraria was on Steam so Im thinking I played it off steam....... question mark?

[unreal river]

I think Terraria has always been Steam...

[shadow dawn]

Man, people really dont like fishing, huh

[unreal river]

Unless you played it on mobile or something else?

[gaunt remnant]

It's been on Steam since even before release

Since it still used Final Fantasy sprites

[unreal river]

well you could only do the quest every ingame day. so it was a lot of waiting between.

[jagged skiff]

my tmod hours are lying though, sure it only says 366 hours, but that's not counting the large amount of time playing it before it was integrated into steam proper

[unreal river]

If they made the fishing quests be able to do them one after another it wouldn't be so bad.

I'm sure ppl could bang out 200 of 'em in a a few hours.

[jagged skiff]

Terraria was the first game I bought on steam, hell, it's the whole reason I even made an account lol

[forest glacier]

might have been a not-my-computer type of thing idk.

[jagged skiff]

1.0 sucked so much lmao

[shadow dawn]

I know! I did that cheevo in like a week,,, because i didnt want to do fishron lol

[gaunt remnant]

It didn't suck, it's not fair to compare it to today

It was cool for the time

[forest glacier]

The only 1.0s I think I played was Minecraft

[jagged skiff]

that's fair

[unreal river]

I remember cheesing Moon Lord with a yoyo.

BACK IN MY DAY! we could cheese all we wanted.

🧀

[jagged skiff]

I didnt get into it as much as I thought I would back then, then sometime around the time Golem was added I picked it back up and have been in love ever since

[gaunt remnant]

I've only been disappointed in Terraria once with an update, and it was the one with the torches. But then they fixed that quickly after so it's all cool

[unreal river]

oh yahhh the whole torch situation

[gaunt remnant]

I hated that change, it was stupid

[jagged skiff]

yeah I remember killing moon lord with some super cheese, hooked onto a spike inside a honey pool with a couple of items, literally couldn't be damaged lol

[unreal river]

yup

[unreal river]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-the-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-mandalorian-i-have-spoken-baby-yoda-gif-24159898

[shadow dawn]

I think everyone hated that change

[gaunt remnant]

Reducing your drop rates because you don't use the correct biome torches when you probably don't have them early in the game? Insane

[unreal river]

I think I was between breaks with Terraria when that torch luck bs came out and then the torch god update.

[jagged skiff]

I still like making hoiks as transport across the world

[unreal river]

I could never figure out hoiks lol

I think I played around a bit with it

Then again I could never figure out redstone either in mc.

[gaunt remnant]

The fact that they made torches give you a bonus and no downsides for not using the wrong torches was the best change they've made and could've made. The Torch God was just a big bonus

[shadow dawn]

I remember cheesing everything under the moon with hoiks

[forest glacier]

Yea I dont have clear memories of those days but If I look at the Minecraft Timeline (which apparently has been updated to look more ugly?) I go off what I remember not being in the game and such

[unreal river]

Give me resources to harvest or monsters to hit and I'm all good. But ingame engineering and such? I'm out lol

[jagged skiff]

hoiks are simple, stuff with wiring though? I'm out

[gaunt remnant]

Factorio and Satisfactory have left the chat

[jagged skiff]

I can manage teleporters and traps, anything beyond that is a no-no

[unreal river]

Oh yah after seeing how those games evolve I never once considered getting them lol

I'm all for ppl enjoying it but I'd have no chance in heck enjoying them.

I'll watch ya play. Ooh and ahh at your stuff but I wouldn't play.

[gaunt remnant]

I love Satisfactory, but it's so time consuming I never could finish a save

I started to stop playing when I realized making one resource base took me 4-5 straight hours

And I wasn't even in the endgame, just late game

[shadow dawn]

In terraria? Yeah no, thank you
But i really wanna get back to minecraft and finally figure out redstone

[forest glacier]

Key memory is receiving the spawn egg update (1.1) and I remember when I played it on my brothers computer it was way less fleshed out because he was a beta tester

[unreal river]

Sudden memory of catching a gnome in terraria finally.

or throwing everything into the shimmer

[jagged skiff]

all I can do with redstone is make blocks move to reveal a passage, I've got a friend who does crazy stuff with it though and I'm happy for him lol

[shadow dawn]

There are so many games and my day only has 24 hours

[gaunt remnant]

Technically less because you need to sleep

[jagged skiff]

pfffft

[unreal river]

Minecraft: Wanna build a functioning computer inside of a game?

[jagged skiff]

you can sleep when you're dead

[gaunt remnant]

And sleeping is good but it sucks too

[shadow dawn]

I can do auto-harvesters somewhat consistently but the crazy stuff im still lost

[jagged skiff]

note: please do not wait until you're dead to sleep, sleep is good

[unreal river]

You need sleep to hoik.

[gaunt remnant]

Sorry my brain is too rotted from years of regular lack of sleep, my eyes cannot physically read the words in your sentence

[unreal river]

Anyways I'm out to grab some groceries. Good talking with ya'll hmu sometime.

[shadow dawn]

If my body lets me (insomnia)
As evidenced by the fact im still awake

[gaunt remnant]

Have a good grocery trip

[shadow dawn]

Have a great day/night, friend!

[jagged skiff]

I've had issues the past couple of weeks with sleep, waking up every 2ish hours to cough my head off. Broncitus sucks 😦

[gaunt remnant]

It's currently 12:30am here and I know I won't be able to sleep until at least a few hours. My whole week had me working on less than 5h of sleep per night

And I'm a person that needs 9h at least

[jagged skiff]

oooooooooof I'm sorry to hear that

[gaunt remnant]

That's my brain in a nutshell

I like to sleep but I don't want to sleep and I can't when I try

[shadow dawn]

Thats awfully familiar

[pliant grotto]

Heya peeps, dumb question time: I started Thor's stream earlier today but had to stop to get stuff done during the day but I came back and can't find the recording. Am I dumb and just missing it somewhere?

[jagged skiff]

I...kinda get that? That was me in my mid 20's to a disturbing degree

[dusky grove]

Vod nuked. Trolls came in

[jagged skiff]

no VOD, LFS was being LFS so it was stopped so no more clips could be farmed for 'content'

er

LSF*

[pliant grotto]

Ah I was worried it would be something like that, sorry to hear that is still going on, super lame 😦 Thank you for the info.

[jagged skiff]

yeeeah, it's all a bunch of

righto, back to reading, glad I peaked in during terraria talk lol

picked up all the dresden files books the other day and am absorbing them

[gaunt remnant]

I wish my brain would allow me to read books. There's a bunch of cool sci-fi and fantasy books I'd love to read like the Metro series

But I cannot read a book, my brain won't let me, it's excruciating for me

[dusky grove]

Audiobook?

[gaunt remnant]

That wouldn't be excruciating but I wouldn't listen to at least half of what is said

My brain doesn't work

[dusky grove]

An illustrated adaptation? Like comics

[shadow dawn]

Have fun with that, and thanks for stopping by!

[gaunt remnant]

Comics I can read but I haven't found one in a long time that I liked

I used to read a French comics as a kid that I really liked but I never finished it

[shadow dawn]

I cant do audiobooks either, most of the voice overs are like, super annoying to me?

[dusky grove]

Same

[gaunt remnant]

I feel that, you need a voice you really like, and you need to be able to actually listen to what is said instead of it being a background whitenoise

Or you can ask Thor to go in vc and read it for you, I'm sure he'd do it

[shadow dawn]

Urgh, i just realized how weird that reads, hold on

[gaunt remnant]

It's okay, I have a plan

Distraction time

[shadow dawn]

Im too tired to explain myself coherently so im just gonna SWOOSH

Anyhoodles, ill try sleeping again have a great day/night everybody!

[hasty grail]

https://tenor.com/view/wf-uninstall-warframe-uninstall-wf-trash-warframe-trash-wf-logout-gif-1638069581171940712

https://tenor.com/view/poe2-login-poe2-gif-17607649316887088565

[indigo wadi]

Am stuck, send help

[rancid trail]

I dont rly watch the streams often but I always really enjoyed the game development/industry content and im wondering what a more positive take on all this sutff thats going on might be. it is becoming harder to defend for me sadly :/. idk its like a parasocial thing i guess but its almost like feeling betrayed or rugpulled a bit. Hopefully that isnt too cringe

[indigo wadi]

There's nothing to defend. It's just ppl who want to spread drama. Ignore them and enjoy the content that Thor puts out.

[jolly sky]

Easy summary. Drama Farmers on Youtube, Reddit etc taking out of context and cherry picked clips and basing all their ideas on the title of the post without any sense of critical thinking or common sense.

https://tenor.com/view/leitner-douwe-leitner-autoleitner-auto-collector-car-gif-2548905518510886512

[dusky grove]

1. Heartbound development was paused cuz of the swift growth of the community. It continues today. 2. The dmca suit was dropped and the game dev that started it admitted that he was baiting. 3. The wow stuff. People misconstrue knowing your worth and standing up for yourself for having an ego and being a narcissist

[hybrid wedge]

Its just as bad as the reaction content, but worse because people who follow them are almost devoted go the same opinions they are... damn...

[dusky grove]

LSF is doing what they do, bait and rage

[gaunt remnant]

What's that latest crap that happened? I heard the VOD was deleted because of another hate raid but I don't know exactly what happened

[dusky grove]

Lsf was farming clips

[frozen oyster]

Sorry but did he not say he was filing a DMCA claim himself? Or was that something else?

[dusky grove]

And apparently someone's vid talking about the drama was taken down on yt. Idk if it was yt or thor himself

[jolly sky]

It was Youtube itself

It broke the Community Guidelines

[dusky grove]

Yes he did, but they got in contact with the dev and dropped the suit. The dev in question admitted to it being bait

[frozen oyster]

Do you have a link to the latter?

[dusky grove]

Lemme find it. Its on thor's twitter

[indigo wadi]

What an absolute d-bag

[gaunt remnant]

Wait so it's still that story with that one dev. But what made this specific VOD required to be deleted more than others? What could've been said in today's stream that could be used so easily as out of context clips?

[indigo wadi]

Lsf clip farming

Literally anything anyone wants

[gaunt remnant]

So why delete the VOD? They can do that with other VODs too

[frozen oyster]

Scrolling through his twitter, maybe its gone now?

[indigo wadi]

To prevent clipping..

[jolly sky]

What are you specifically looking for?

[dusky grove]

https://x.com/PirateSoftware/status/1884935856856904012?t=tra57tyzlSIAa2FrowbvmQ&s=19

Pirate Software (@PirateSoftware) on X

@TheOtherFrost The DMCA was absolutely not unlawful. We filed a DMCA in response to the developer claiming that he put my voice in his videogame in a playable build and he showed evidence of this on video via a Reddit thread.
https://t.co/NNsxJb5U4k

He was told by many others that doing this

X · Jan 30, 2025, 12:05 PM

Found it

[jolly sky]

Ah that

[gaunt remnant]

Yes but my question is why this VOD and not every VODs if LSF decided they would be farming content today

[frozen oyster]

oh appreciate it

[gaunt remnant]

Like, how does that stop them really, they can just pick another VOD and keep doing it

[indigo wadi]

🤷‍♂️

[jolly sky]

His stream, his choice. There was nothing said or done on that stream that would make it any different than any other, except that when he was working on Heartbound on stream, there was some wild posting in chat going on

[gaunt remnant]

Oh I see, that makes more sense

It's because he worked on Heartbound, that's why there were trolls here on Discord today coming in to talk shit about Heartbound's development

[indigo wadi]

Don't think it was that specifically

[gaunt remnant]

I mean if it isn't that, what could it be?

[indigo wadi]

To prevent current day lsf clip farming

[gaunt remnant]

Maybe my brain is rotten but that doesn't make any sense to me

[gloomy radish]

Have you seen unknown 9: awakening game? It seems it another failed AAA game

[indigo wadi]

It's drama, there is no sense to be had

[jolly sky]

Specifically clips of him working on heartbound and people once again creating more imaginary narratives

[indigo wadi]

Ah okay

[gaunt remnant]

So it is because he worked on Heartbound on stream then?

If it's that it makes sense

[frozen oyster]

Okay so the link to the video by the dev doesn't go anywhere unfortunately, but thor could have done some due diligence ensuring his content was actually inappropriately used before filing the DMCA

[jolly sky]

Honestly we're just making guesstimates, only Thor himself would know for sure.

[bronze summit]

ok I need to share this, today I was watching the oldest saved stream on youtube and thor was debugging the rhode/fern and thor was streaming poe2 which I was not interested in listening to….

then, later I noticed he was live streaming game dev and I tuned in, and he was working on the exact same section… ahhhhhhhhh

[dusky grove]

Lsf seems to cycle through stuff, at least on the front page, fairly quickly. Cutting off the fresh clips would probably lead to other people being on the front page of that place for a while

[indigo wadi]

Probably because the video was removed

[frozen oyster]

yeah it was removed

[gaunt remnant]

It sounds like the most logical explanation to me. Also sorry for launching another talk about the drama, I let my morbid curiosity take over me

[jolly sky]

He did. He has a lawyer that works for him. The proper work was done.

[frozen oyster]

yeah but if it wasn't used in that way in the public build, then the lawyer should have known before filing?

[indigo wadi]

There was no inappropriate filing, Thor literally states as such

[frozen oyster]

if that is the job of the lawyer in this case

[jolly sky]

He had a legal obligation to file the DMCA.

[gaunt remnant]

Quick, ignore my next message

sound:0:1

Damnit, I can't get soundmojis to work

[river island]

Mobile wouldn't see it anyways

[gaunt remnant]

Yes but it's their fault to be on mobile

[indigo wadi]

Doesn't get more clear than that

[frozen oyster]

So he saw the reddit thread, then filed the DMCA, then the dev reached out after saying that wasn't in the actual game, then DMCA retracted?

[jolly sky]

I only saw and know of it from MoistCritikals video hah, and it did look pretty doodoo

[indigo wadi]

You can see the summary that Thor posted.

[frozen oyster]

Yeah I'm just summarizing the events from that

[dusky grove]

From the way it was worded, it appears that he switched to voicing it himself AFTER it picked up speed

[frozen oyster]

Ok, thanks for the summary

[dusky grove]

Would be implies that it hasn't been implemented yet. If it was in the game using the dev's voice, they woulda used past tense