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vagrant frost
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so instead of disagreeing with her, you said they were making things up; you didn't even ask which creator she watched, you just assumed and insulted; good job! I'm just saying it how it is. How much body language expert videos have you watched the last couple years? Me, not much, so I cannot comment so I said it was their opinion. I will defend your opinon as well; everyone has a right to theirs without it being called imagination. Hope you feel better.

glossy shard
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i know downvoting dont help cause it counts to viewer interaction so i d get more of it

granite vector
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I hope it doesn't come out the same way as a kidney stone... ouch

earnest veldt
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The tank had aggro on the boss, but it was a hectic situation so I’m not trying to say he shouldn’t look out for himself, but a frost nova could’ve helped. Definitely didn’t deserve this level of backlash for it though.

shadow dawn
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And that is also where there should be something like"Don't recommend this channel"!

deft kraken
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i recently passed a kidney stone for the first time, the pain was way different then i though it would be but its still horrible

wintry moat
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Looking forward to Monster Hunter with Thor, Annie, Hubert.

stoic remnant
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Why was sodapoppin able to kick thor? Isn’t he not head of the guild?

high moat
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why do I have to be on HC to prove you wrong?

astral crypt
torpid knot
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hey I mean if we get Asmon fans in here maybe we can talk to them and everyone can be cool about it

maiden talon
obtuse patio
serene valley
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regardless of affiliation, if people don't keep to the #rules they will have a very short stay here

also politics is #rules

karmic bone
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I agree with this and hope in a week he can take a moment to reflect and listen. The wow stuff I have no skin in and think is dumb drama - it's a game. But when your community goes "Hey this person fosters hate against me please don't let him and his fans in here" you should listen to that.

Ideally he should take a week off and feel his emotions and come back

charred wolf
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It is complicated. One would naturally feel distrustful of someone associating with someone who fosters a community of hateful and miserable people: especially if they belong to a disadvantaged group of people the said community is known for harassing, mocking, berating, whatnot.

narrow quarry
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It has permanently tainted his standing in a community he's been a part of for a long time, and I think on some level still cared about. I don't see this spinning out positively for him.

charred wolf
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We can't just look one way or the other.

jolly sky
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"A little upset" is far beyond how Yamato portrayed himself. Yamato was pointing fingers and blaming during, and immediately after the dungeon ended.

If you were told to do something under an emergency situation, and did exactly as was announced, and then afterwards were shouted at for following that action, would you feel the need to apologise?

torn flower
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It's a bunch of content creators that are handed "Drama" that they can blow up to have mega content for Days....and they can then react to each others content for several MORE days of content with no real output from themselves. Of COURSE they are going to use that. It basically allows them to farm 1 event for a week+ and basically turn it into a mini vacation.

sudden tundra
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HAPPY POST.

astral crypt
earnest veldt
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But what I’m saying is he could’ve ran but stayed close enough to frost nova if it was called for, but because he was so far away that wasn’t an option for his team to ask

frozen robin
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exactly. while i do agree to some of the criticism saying thor could have helped a bit more. the call was made and should have been followed by everyone

muted sail
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Pesto is so wonderful

drifting hawk
remote maple
mighty otter
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I personally find the WoW streams to be boring, so it'd be nice to see him play different games

ionic crater
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did Thor streal today?

stoic remnant
glossy shard
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i would to in their posistion its low production cost and easy money but as a user i wish i could filter it out

brisk sparrow
deft kraken
shadow dawn
ivory garden
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Winky still ain't paying his taxes

woeful patio
drifting hawk
earnest veldt
ionic crater
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oow ok thanks u guy ❤️

obtuse patio
sage lily
wary saffron
tawny fulcrum
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eh thats not what i meant but ok

ionic crater
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i usually put his streams on as im working hah😅

jolly sky
fallow fable
frosty thorn
torn flower
earnest veldt
humble hedge
ivory garden
drifting hawk
fathom laurel
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Asmon isn't directly against lgbtq or black people. Whot a hot take. He's a troll, and ragebaits people who are easily outraged cause that's got him the views he has now.

astral crypt
deft kraken
grand lynx
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meh to all of this CATS

exotic forge
glossy shard
earnest veldt
narrow quarry
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Yeah I don't buy that 'optics of association' argument. In no way did Pirate endorse anything Asmon has said or done. He reached out ONLY to defend Ashes of Creation.

karmic bone
dry osprey
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Kris having the saddest moment with hubert about thor not being in the guild anymore

limber radish
drifting hawk
frosty thorn
fathom laurel
limpid talon
drifting hawk
jolly sky
# earnest veldt Idk man, a call to run doesn’t mean every man for himself, you’re still a team, ...

The call to run does apply in hardcore WoW, and even moreso in a Guild. The more people die, the less people there are to do the later in-game content, and the less help you'll have getting back to the point you were previously. "RUN RUN RUN RUN" is the call that was made, and that was the call that was followed. Following that call is not something he should be apologising for, especially when you're shouted at afterwards for doing so

warm trench
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Saying run doesn't mean run is the wrong take. In crisis management you cannot have dual meaning. RUN means RUN. It was a mistake to not commit to the decision.

sage lily
granite vector
fathom laurel
late bane
deft kraken
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right now all i can think about is thor saying screw it i'ma build my own guild with black jack and i don't think i can say the other option but we all know what it is

earnest veldt
frosty thorn
karmic bone
quasi rose
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Thor Regularly says he's not into Asmons current content which let's be real Asmon is just a bait channel now

torn flower
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At this point I seriously wonder if they will ever actually run the raid.

fathom laurel
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prolly cause he just had a bunnch of people rage on his videos for a month cause he was watching a bunch of right-wing videos

karmic bone
untold seal
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As a colored person, living in a country where anything LGBT is banned. I get thoroughly confused when they think Asmon is a racist gay hating person. It is very confusing. THAT is racism? I want to live in your cute nice world.

granite vector
trim herald
# jolly sky I'm sorry but I personally don't follow this line of thought, as the context was...

When you platform a known grifter, chances are high that their community will flock to that other person's community to stir up drama and get the grifter involved somehow, because a grifter's community practically feeds on drama. That's why everyone should categorically never platform a grifter. It's the same kind of deal as the tolerance paradox. You don't invite hateful people into your stream or you'll pull in hateful people. And that's gonna be a nightmare to deal with not just for the community but for mods as well.

drifting hawk
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is the convo productive?

warm trench
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I doubt its common place to call run not meaning run.

frosty thorn
amber scarab
drifting hawk
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not what i asked

fathom laurel
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The bottom line, is that Asmon doesn't even have a place in this chat, simply because Pirate used the biggest platform at his disposle to derail salty untruths.

high moat
amber scarab
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Ty

karmic bone
torpid knot
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I think Thor talking with Asmon could prove to be a positive thing, Asmon's community being what it is we could introduce some of his fans to a kinder space and a more accepting one, I don't think this will change Thor's community as it is a strongly open and kind community, we wouldn't accept LGBT hate here at all

mortal pollen
quick steeple
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TBF. I think that Yamato was just inciting, for the drama and the extra content . That is all. I hate it, as the repercussions of it are usually big and spread hate

glossy shard
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real talk though hardcore in online games is asking for trouble one day u will get a hard lag spike and die to that if you play enuff

limber radish
wary saffron
mighty otter
high plover
frosty thorn
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Brb driving to work

dry osprey
earnest veldt
fathom laurel
spare topaz
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i agree - asmon's community is wild and he keeps stoking the fires. im gay and i feel deeply uncomfortable about what i see come out of his community. Then again Thor has always strongly implied that he disagrees with almost everything Asmon says whenever he comes up in stream chat...

My two thoughts is that he saw what was happening as a potential existential risk to AoC, and if the developers weren't at risk he wouldn't have jumped on to speak with him. It's the trolley problem: talk to asmon and risk associating with him, or let an innocent dev team take a potentially mortal blow

mortal pollen
# trim herald Semantics.

look i agree with you about asmongold in general but you seem like youre trying to get attention by making some pretty big leaps in logic

trim herald
high moat
earnest veldt
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It’s wild that I’m just trying to help people understand both sides so we can come to an understanding but thats constituted as bait

unique cape
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lol wtf? "Silent Bigotry"? comon dude lol.

drifting hawk
trim herald
fathom laurel
limber radish
charred wolf
# jolly sky I'm sorry but I personally don't follow this line of thought, as the context was...

To put it into perspective, I'd understand why a woman wouldn't be comfortable if her husband was talking to a known domestic abuse apologist; even though both her husband and the person are just talking about their hobbies and has nothing to do with the other person' words or actions in a different facet of life.

This is exactly the kind of person asmon is in a vein, he allows extremely dangerous groups of people to congregate and have a sense of community, someone who may not be part of said groups can easily overlook how dangerous this may be.

karmic bone
ivory garden
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It is starting to get a bit uncomfortable in here

drifting hawk
umbral nest
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Poppers

fathom laurel
modest coral
earnest veldt
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I just wanted Pirate and them to get along 😦

wary saffron
high plover
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btw Asmon is extremely popular i don't think you can use terms like "his community" a lot of normies watch him myself included

charred wolf
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That why I think this is complicated, we can't look at this as a black or white thing.

novel fox
torpid knot
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we just want mf's to get along

quasi rose
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that being said. Thor is very inent on setting the record straight about AoC, at any cost. and frankly i am with him on that. i am super stoked for that game. if i could get asmons community to see the truth, i would.

fathom laurel
dire burrow
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what are you talking about

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There was no AoC raid today

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AoC is down until thrusday

drifting hawk
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today?

dire burrow
high plover
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it's not that serious

vagrant frost
charred wolf
quick steeple
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Yamato wanted to rant and increase his viewership , hence he wanted on stage on Asmondgold

trim crater
mortal pollen
quick steeple
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Was good that Asmond didnt let him

odd matrix
# earnest veldt Idk man, a call to run doesn’t mean every man for himself, you’re still a team, ...

well, the whole situation also has the issue that there was no communication about the status of the rest of the group.
We have the advantage of the PoVs of all other players. But the fact that Thor's side you can't see who the Boss is on, and the desperate "heal me heal me heal me", clearly indicates people are about to die.
The Boss will charge the next one in the aggro list. And the Mage will die if the boss charges them.
Thor has in that situation 0 idea what is going on, and going closer to investigate only to risk his own life is kinda wild.
if the voice would have had better calls like. "Can you nova to slow the adds, we might make it", then the situation would have played out differently.
That is why "run run run run ..." really only told to get out.
Tactical retreat or not was missing the tacttical aspect of information.

opal dock
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How is asmon a grifter

high plover
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lol

charred wolf
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Okay.

winter mountain
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Listen, broken clocks are right twice a day. Asmon is a brocken clock... If a broken clock also talked about "ThE wOkE mInD vIRuS" unironicaly.

quasi rose
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Asmon is just a click bait streamer. i don't care about him.

dire burrow
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Chat stop.

dire burrow
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We are not using this chat to shit on other streamers.

glossy shard
dire burrow
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We do not care about your political opinion either.

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Cease.

past nebula
high plover
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he is also a fool don't get me wrong

trim herald
shrewd quiver
ivory garden
mortal pollen
drifting hawk
opal dock
quasi rose
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what i care about is AoC. and i want that game to suceed

jolly sky
# trim herald When you platform a known grifter, chances are high that their community will fl...

There was no platforming. There was no collaboration. It was a simple discussion on a video game where there were lies being told about said video game, and Thor wanted to clear up those lies from a player perspective and talk about the game. Sorry but anyone who believes that there was some form of platforming of collaboration involved is fighting ghosts.

Anyone coming over from Asmons channel and spreading the hateful speech here will get immediately banned by the very active mod team. Talking with a streamer is not "allowing" it into your stream or community. That could happen at any time, with or without "platforming" someone

wary saffron
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Now we have ceased, I must ask everyone how their penny trading has been going

mortal pollen
drifting hawk
quasi rose
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me too

past nebula
sacred pelican
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My JM Heroic Pickaxe wants to EAT

jolly sky
quick steeple
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Asmon is just farming the negativity and hate. But as Thor has stated in his stream already. A community built on that is difficult to control, and will turn on you eventually

mortal pollen
opal dock
earnest veldt
# odd matrix well, the whole situation also has the issue that there was no communication abo...

I understand that he wasn’t able to see what was going on, he heard run, he ran, and thus wasn’t able to see the situation. However, he could still hear them talking, trying to continue the exit. He was asked to kill the mastiffs when he asked “what should I do”, he had mana to frostbolt them at least, he was asked if he could do that, seeing fengus on the tank or not, the comms was information he had access to

winter mountain
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Don't like that Thor chatted with Asmon, but I'm also not going to get all bent out of shape over it. That's just purity test nonsense. Thor kept the discussion on track and was responsible about it all things considered.

wary saffron
# opal dock No

ok, if not the penny trading, anyone planted any tulips recently?

shadow dawn
sage lily
wary saffron
quasi rose
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i don't like him either. but Thor brought the truth about AoC to a lot of people. that's good.

opal dock
vagrant frost
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by the time people calm down enough to talk rationally about this; everyone will have other things to worry about; I wish I understood why people are acting irrationally passionate and emotionally charged. It feels like a psychologist could study this event and possibly learn something. I hope you all can feel calm and peace soon

past nebula
opal dock
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Not reading all that lil bro

charred wolf
wary saffron
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whoah

drifting hawk
# opal dock He’s always been that way if u watch him at all tbh

i said this earlier but yesterday i was lurking in hes stream and he sat there in hes chat asking them how they can find this entertaining anymore, that they only watch this to hate watch and chase the nostalgia of when LoL was good and you could see he was serious

earnest veldt
flat moat
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Unfortunately it is what it is. If they had like an open centred debate, all would have benefited with the knowledge for their own opinion

winter mountain
exotic forge
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I think the mods said to stop

opal dock
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Thank you for summary

glossy shard
novel fox
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Also, i don't know how many people here play/played wow i play actively, mostly solo so i usually get KSM and AotC each season from DF before played less actively, started since classic and man there was nothin that pirate could have done there except go nova ads that were in the back and get himself killed, i love how half of the people who havent played the game for long now act as experts, personally disappointed in sodapoppin since i know he played a lot of wow in the past, also people shit on asmon cause his opinions are controversial /not always right, yes but that man played the game for 20+ years and if anyone watched him back then they would know how much he knows bout the game compared to some whiny league streamer

spice niche
wary saffron
sand cloak
trim herald
# jolly sky There was no platforming. There was no collaboration. It was a simple discussion...

Idk, as a community manager who has had to deal with Asmongold and his hateful mob in the past I might be biased, and that's a fair argument to make. Well, I can only hope the team here will be able to handle it well enough, cause my team totally burned out after it 😅Just don't wish that fate upon y'all, that's genuinely it. Some people can want something out of good will and not some selfish reason hehe Anyways, best of luck, I really hope you're right.

lavish wing
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Asmogold about to review this drama lets goooo

trim herald
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And thanks for taking the time to write that.

quasi rose
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also exactly. all i care about is getting eyes on AoC

drifting hawk
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i think loop 6 is complete

narrow quarry
opal dock
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Tbh the whole drama is kinda dumb and streamers making it out worse than it is so parasocial internet neets attack X person. Happens all the time

drifting hawk
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pls no loop 7

exotic forge
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  1. Don't use this chat to shit on other streamers

  2. We don't care about your political opinion

winter mountain
sacred pelican
wary saffron
high plover
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didn't know Asmon was the devil lmao

odd matrix
opal dock
fathom laurel
muted sail
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Skyrim civil war politics is best politics

shadow dawn
dry osprey
quasi rose
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aaaaannndd time to block people...damn my tolerance is really nothing these last few days

trim herald
drifting hawk
torpid knot
late bane
vagrant frost
# novel fox Also, i don't know how many people here play/played wow i play actively, mostly ...

tbc, I didn't like him for absolutely no reason; he gave me some bad vibes and I heard he did a lot of react content and I stayed away. Then I absconded myself of any opinion because I have not watched him directly; still haven't, still have no opinion of him now; but I actively avoided and blocked his channels in the past for minimal reason. we all get vibes and sometimes act on them without a meritable foundation

opal dock
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To cheer people up

torpid knot
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:(

late bane
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not jeff

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anyone but jeff

opal dock
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It has to be Jeff

woeful peak
exotic forge
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Mods said stop

quasi rose
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jeff NNNOOOO!!!!

umbral nest
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🤣

dry osprey
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In the end i think thor shouldnt have joined only fangs at all. Thats my perspective on that

glossy shard
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12 new sub classes bg3 soon hype

dreamy cedar
opal dock
late bane
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literally, anyone but jeff

muted sail
spare topaz
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Oh God Jeff yarrD

quasi rose
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oh yeah i forgot about BG3

fresh pike
woeful peak
serene valley
late bane
# muted sail

when you get mad at jeff this is who youre getting mad at

glossy shard
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i wana play shadow sorc and bladesinger wiz

narrow quarry
mortal pollen
opal dock
quasi rose
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why jeff?! anyone but jeff!!

marsh forge
flat moat
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mmm karlach

glossy shard
woeful peak
muted sail
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I simultaneously love and hate Jeff

drifting hawk
opal dock
quasi rose
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mmmm Karlach FTW.

high plover
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do y'all know if Thor makes any programming content outside of the small tidbits on his shorts?

opal dock
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Jeff unironically is a funny character but he’s so bad comp wise

marsh forge
obtuse patio
dreamy cedar
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Jeff the Land Shark could commit crimes against the Geneva Convention and I would probably still call him a baby boy

quasi rose
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but hear me out. Gale

glossy shard
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yeah karlach is so relatable

obtuse patio
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True

woeful peak
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I don’t even play it, but I love him, and I will protect Jeff with my life

sand cloak
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Asmon is showing the DMs pirate received and holy fricking crap.... just WOW.

spare topaz
opal dock
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No

flat moat
narrow quarry
sage lily
obtuse patio
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90% ms paint 10% game devving

high plover
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lol

sage lily
# opal dock

I had to cover my profile pics eyes. Lil Jeff is sad

jolly sky
# trim herald Idk, as a community manager who has had to deal with Asmongold and his hateful m...

And with that knowledge about your personal experience with it, I do completely understand where your point of view is coming from, and why you'd initially feel nervous or dis-heartened.

If you've been emotionally affected by things like that, its very easy to quickly jump back to that emotion when similar things (on the outside) seem to be occurring, almost like a defensive response. But with that emotional jump, its then very easy to perhaps see enemies where are none, or perhaps seeings things from a perspective that does not exist in the context of the moment. I hope that you and your own team do well going forward

opal dock
spare topaz
glossy shard
night turret
opal dock
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Guys as an ex blizzard dev I can confirm that Jeff is NOT balling

charred wolf
# sage lily What alot of people don't want to acknowledge or talk about is the process of di...

Personally, this is not about politics but more so about the philosophy of the person and the experiences of his shared community.

I couldn't care about what he thinks, rather than what he allows for people to do under his own name. It's ignorant to think he is some bastion of equality and sincere good will, an overreach to thing he is a malicious person trying to hurt others out of a twisted idealogy.

quasi rose
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protect jeff!!

sage lily
trim herald
sage lily
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It becomes a rally cry for bullying and abuse, I've seen a few indie games have a real hard time last year

opal dock
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Word woke is super overused tbh. Games just bad

charred wolf
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It is very upsetting how overlooked it is.

drifting hawk
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yeah no delete this shit

marsh forge
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anybody who uses "woke" as a derogative is not worth listening to IMHO

dry osprey
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Tyler saying in his yt video. "There is no hate speech just chat hopper"

woeful peak
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I’m just busy thinking about Jeff

stable slate
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Yeah I'm not sure people dont' understand what "woke" means when they exclusively use it for video games that have women and genders and politics in them. If they called ET for the Atari "woke" maybe i could buy it.

sand cloak
vagrant frost
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people find many words and reasons to fuel their hate and poor treatment of others in many ways throughout time and history; each generation failing to learn from the previous or from each other ...

late bane
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K i wont post this type of stuff

glossy shard
winter mountain
wary saffron
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Hey guys, let me just leave this image here

trim herald
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Woke used as a derogative really just feels like it's used an excuse by people who just want to hate different and new things and concepts, which like, you can be conservative without making it hateful

drifting hawk
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Don't use this chat to shit on other streamers

We don't care about your political opinion

dreamy cedar
exotic forge
wary saffron
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It's the mods telling people to stop talking about politics

dry osprey
main rapids
obtuse patio
keen mango
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I’m confused why sodapoppin phrased it as a bunch of the guild was uncomfortable with him. What is the justification for that? I thought that people are upset that he roached and that he is reporting the people making death threats, but that doesn’t justify kicking him

jolly sky
stable slate
sage lily
spare topaz
drifting hawk
livid quartz
glossy shard
winter mountain
vagrant frost
quasi rose
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so yeah is AoC tomorrow or the next day?

late bane
dry osprey
drifting hawk
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not again try again friday

sand cloak
dreamy cedar
dry osprey
quick steeple
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@main rapids Both are important to have a choice. Preferably there should be more choices than left and right, like we have in The Netherlands.

quasi rose
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cool

trim herald
keen mango
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@drifting hawk wdym try again Friday (new here)

dreamy cedar
unreal saffron
slender prairie
swift elm
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I do believe it's time for cat posting.

spare topaz
glossy shard
high plover
amber axle
north zealot
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Asmon is talking about "the situation", he is defending pirate from the bad behaviur of the toxic people

muted sail
tribal nest
livid quartz
dreamy cedar
late bane
vagrant frost
drifting hawk
quasi raptor
torn flower
dreamy cedar
sand cloak
keen mango
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@drifting hawk thank you for clearing the confusion, apologies for causing any trouble

spare topaz
jolly sky
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Incorrect. Sharing your thoughts and supporting the other person in what they do is platforming. That didn't happen.

drifting hawk
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after 8 hours of this, kinda yeah

drifting hawk
stable slate
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so Asmon platformed Pirate

dreamy cedar
livid quartz
wary saffron
glossy shard
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in the uk people do go prison for making death threats online imagine being in cell with a career criminal and they ask what you in for "angry tweeter post" lol

mortal pollen
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lol and what is the goal of your concern trolling exactly?

spare topaz
woven wraith
unreal saffron
charred wolf
wooden bane
spare topaz
drifting hawk
dire burrow
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No its not.

sand cloak
dire burrow
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This is a space where we will not discuss politics.

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We do not care.

livid quartz
vagrant silo
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Maltesers are so good

quasi rose
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it's very simple. Thor talk to Asmon and his communtiy about AoC and set the record straight. that is good. end of story. after the video painting it bad, i can see why THor did that

drifting hawk
vagrant silo
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I want some now, thanks chat. Stores closed 3mins ago 🤣

wooden bane
quick steeple
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God, so much talk about one single in-game wipe. If i had to do that, i would be apologizing still for the last 10 yrs

dry osprey
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I think that was enough internet socializing for me today. Time to brainless watch stuff on the internet

spare topaz
torn flower
alpine prism
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Or not everyone is from the USA

narrow quarry
drifting hawk
livid quartz
obtuse patio
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You can have your political views and not feel a need to share them in a gaming space though.

muted sail
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We just like video games

wild plover
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That or people just dont want to have that talked about everywhere

sand cloak
dire burrow
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Ok and? We're not here to discuss current events and politics. We're here to learn shit and make games.

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If you can't do that, then you can leave.

trim herald
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I'd also call that platforming. Platforming really is just giving someone stage time, giving them an (extra) audience. Or platform, hence the word. Either way you wanna call it, platforming or collaborating, I think there's a point in that it's unfortunate that it happened (even if it was for the best and had a good reason), given that a lot of minorities feel safe here and are probably shocked at this collaboration since Asmongold's speech poses a threat to them. Seems that this community is in safe hands though. Fingers crossed!

candid grove
alpine prism
#

You could find another place to talk politics quite easily though

jolly sky
#

The only "views" spoken were about the videogame. Nothing else. You are twisting the meaning here to want to make it include everything else.

stable slate
#

You can say you're not political, but I promise politics will find you regardless of whether you acknowledge it.

quasi rose
#

exactly i'm here for the games people

sage lily
#

Neither of those are indie imho. Caravan Sandwich a small cozy game had waves of hate lobbied on them. Not because it's bad, it's sweet and cute. It was because it's there at all. It's a very complex situation that in alot of cases is just funneled hate raids for people to be mean

remote maple
drifting hawk
mortal pollen
#

con·cern trol·ling
noun
derogatory•informal
noun: concern trolling

the action or practice of disingenuously expressing concern about an issue in order to undermine or derail genuine discussion.
livid quartz
granite vector
sand cloak
nova bough
#

there is no fence sitting. no one cares about red vs blue here.

tribal nest
flint sinew
#

move

glossy shard
#

i couldnt do more than a 4hours of frostpunk 2 the politics got too overwhelming for me

flint sinew
#

on

torpid knot
#

I get where you're coming from to be upset at how the world is, but these people don't wanna talk about it because while even if they agree with you, they're just not happy to talk about it because it sucks to do so

flint sinew
#

you were already asked

sage lily
#

Btw Caravan Sandwich is adorable and everyone should play

mortal pollen
#

BYEEEEEE

stoic zealot
#

DAMN BROTHER GOT SHOT

remote maple
glossy shard
#

which is a shame cause i love the atomsphere in that game its just too much mangement for me

woeful peak
#

Thanks, Mods

wild plover
#

eats popcorn waiting for the political posters to be kicked

nova bough
#

oh thats why my reply failed - fair enough

sand fox
#

If you die in Wow Hardcore you lose that character right?

exotic forge
woeful peak
wary saffron
#

ty mods for the removal of politics

jolly sky
late bane
alpine prism
muted sail
#

Thank you mods.

feral violet
empty wind
sand cloak
stable slate
stoic zealot
#

looking over the mega thread on our sub, saw this

narrow quarry
quasi rose
#

i'm still not sure i even want to play HC any more.

lavish current
#

if you die in hardcore you die for real

livid quartz
sand cloak
glossy shard
#

All Hc charters are DOA that day the servers dont play so well or your internets bad and gone

zealous frost
#

While I have been vocal about wanting Thor to tone back on the wow lately, I really didn't appreciate the scope/scale of the hate. Him getting literal terrorism threats is way over the line and in no world is that deserved. Some people are psychopaths.

obtuse patio
#

Let's not attack other streamers guys

formal kestrel
#

dont just attack other streamers either though it doesnt help

sand cloak
muted sail
#

Let’s just be cool lol

humble hedge
#

Is league player, always a league player

quasi rose
#

i've died 15 times....tyler came each time....it really messes with you.

zealous frost
stoic zealot
torpid knot
#

we must be better

cyan jay
#

cuss we are the bigger people

woeful peak
#

Because it doesn’t help anything.

late bane
#

People all over social media are also denying that the death threats are real; these arent people you can reason with

granite vector
#

Life's not fair. Don't worry about it. Just don't do it

gritty night
winter mountain
flint sinew
#

stop

zealous frost
#

Life isn't fair.
It's what makes being a good person hard

stoic zealot
#

DO NOT

woeful peak
#

Stop

obtuse patio
jolly sky
#

Because hate only spreads hate. We don't debase ourselves to their level.

warped mural
#

they killed someone why cant I kill someone?

thats why.

livid quartz
alpine prism
#

It doesn't help to stoop to their level

wild plover
#

an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind

torpid knot
#

this is no better than the threats sent to Thor

sage lily
drifting hawk
#

Because WE ARE BETTER THEN THAT, Do not stoop to their level

torpid knot
#

shit I didn't reply

stoic zealot
sand cloak
nova bough
#

at this point, you just let twitch handle it - dont perpetuate the hate cycle.

hasty spindle
#

get over all that drama people, it ain't worth to talk about it or have insight about everything. Death threats and shit should never happen, most people involved in the drama don't get that and only speak about accountability of an event in game.

flint sinew
#

imma need yall to move on entirely

sturdy lotus
#

Hate only begets more hate. Do not spread it. Let it go.

jolly sky
soft vector
#

Because stooping to their level turns you into them

flint sinew
#

stop talking about it
stop engaging in what ifs

quasi raptor
stoic zealot
#

I am hungery

flint sinew
#

stop speaking about other streamers/content creators

alpine prism
sacred pelican
remote maple
#

magnus did nothing wrong kermitchad

high plover
#

what are you gonna do exactly?

narrow quarry
#

I try not to attack, but it's hard to analyse the Dire Maul collapse and not point out how the Rogue was just a cameraman.

rugged wyvern
narrow quarry
#

That's just a fact.

lavish current
#

discuss this winter creature

alpine prism
tidal bramble
#

I hvae ordered a bean plushie!

tidal bramble
#

My daughter is VERY excited for it

charred wolf
livid quartz
dark quartz
#

Go watch Balatro videos if you're angry.
Go play Balatro or Palworld or etc.
Read a book.

high plover
#

lol

obtuse patio
#

Thor made reports, if someone is spreading hate about him then it'll be taken care of. Not our job to attack other people because they attacked thor.

dire burrow
#

@late bane We have explained to you to cease shit talking other streamers and spreading hate about other streamers.

sage lily
#

Palworld is pretty killer rn

winter mountain
# flint sinew stop talking about it stop engaging in what ifs

Exactly. Hate mobs feed of of reactions to their insane behaviour. They largely act the way they do too illicit a negative reaction, and then use that negative reaction to justify more harrassment. I'm this TedTalk I will explain why Thor needs to stop tweeting.

dire burrow
#

Are you going to stop?

sand fox
#

"An eye for an eye will only make the whole world blind"- Mahatma Gandhi

quasi rose
#

i may give it another go..but WoW retail is pretty fun now...plus you know. Pluderstorm

opal bronze
pine isle
#

Who are you to decide that?

sand cloak
sage lily
#

Hell I'll boot up rivals if people wanna play

glossy shard
charred wolf
glossy shard
#

pillars look prtty mint thou in palworld

sacred pelican
sage lily
sand fox
#

What happened to the BUN?!

drifting hawk
#

Hey whos looking forward to caravans in AoC?

drifting hawk
charred wolf
wet coral
granite vector
terse pelican
feral violet
sturdy lotus
# charred wolf

I'm pro Skub, and if you're anti Skub, I think that's terrible

humble hedge
glossy shard
quasi raptor
#

I just redownloaded Palworld. Looking forward to getting back into it with some friends.

lucid aspen
#

humming aesthetic perfection into the void

sacred pelican
drifting hawk
stoic zealot
#

time to make a mod ticket

mortal pollen
charred wolf
narrow quarry
quasi rose
#

oh i got the parrot mount and pirate outfit and i'm good now. there some other good mogs but i'm happy with that i got

lucid aspen
#

aesthetic perfection is top notch music I love too listen

winter mountain
drifting hawk
sage lily
sturdy lotus
wary saffron
humble hedge
quasi rose
#

i just want to explore AoC. it's gonna be great..

drifting hawk
sacred pelican
wary saffron
humble hedge
drifting hawk
wary saffron
glossy shard
humble hedge
lavish current
#

i have signed an unholy pact with Powershell to run through my Excel file, query AD and fill the data needed so now i can chat instead of working. Rule 1 - Yes automation

drifting hawk
#

OMG

#

THOSE ARE SO FUNNY

wary saffron
lucid aspen
#

where I can post music links??

drifting hawk
#

HOW DO I NOT KNOW THIE MEME

quasi raptor
#

These Avatar memes are so dumb - why am I laughing at each of them?

humble hedge
wary saffron
sacred pelican
humble hedge
wary saffron
humble hedge
charred wolf
wary saffron
terse pelican
drifting hawk
humble hedge
wary saffron
humble hedge
wary saffron
humble hedge
drifting hawk
sacred pelican
drifting hawk
wary saffron
humble hedge
#

HAHAHA

humble hedge
wary saffron
drifting hawk
humble hedge
wary saffron
humble hedge
wary saffron
sacred pelican
# drifting hawk HMMMMM ok, i keep common for fuel

I’m talking mining mats not trees. For trees yea definitely larch commons the way to go, enough forests of those around you can keep a decent stock. they also vendor pretty well on the marketplace

humble hedge
wary saffron
humble hedge
humble hedge
drifting hawk
wary saffron
humble hedge
royal oxide
#

opens door Hey how thing going here..........walks out and closes door

wary saffron
humble hedge
#

Don't worry about it

lucid aspen
#

today is a day too listen Daniel graves sing self inflicted and sit back

humble hedge
wary saffron
humble hedge
lavish current
wary saffron
wary saffron
sacred pelican
humble hedge
wary saffron
#

Sadge

humble hedge
#

lemme try again

wary saffron
#

yehhh

humble hedge
wary saffron
#

oof

humble hedge
#

fck

humble hedge
#

wait

lavish current
#

its pronounced jfif

wary saffron
#

jfif

drifting hawk
#

Also can i just say... Saved by the Avatar memes, thankyou @humble hedge

barren ledge
#

The hell is this picture? XDá

humble hedge
#

AHA

lavish current
#

jfif the lond shrek

wary saffron
barren ledge
humble hedge
#

FCK I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE

wary saffron
#

dw

#

i have more

wary saffron
drifting hawk
wary saffron
barren ledge
# wary saffron

You have triggered, me. Now, as a Hungarian, I must eat you. INTO THE GOULASH WITH YOU

wary saffron
humble hedge
#

I love this bc for some reason we both have a lot of these

#

for no god damn reason

drifting hawk
#

i am very surprised at the amount

barren ledge
#

dude does this for a living i guess

drifting hawk
#

how many of these did you make?

wary saffron
#

I didn't

#

Google did

humble hedge
#

Most of them I found

wary saffron
#

there are a suprising amount if you just google "Stretched avatar meme"

barren ledge
#

Well I get that... If you look up Sexy Minecraft Steve, you get teleported into the shadow realm

wary saffron
#

makes sense

sterile eagle
ivory garden
#

Seems like it finally Died down in here

regal maple
#

so i sat out for a lot of the wow hardcore drama, but heard enough to only care about 1 question: what's next for Thor in hardcore wow, given that it's not with onlyfangs?

barren ledge
#

START SPAMMING THE MEMES AGAIN

wary saffron
barren ledge
#

RELEASE THE MEMES

wary saffron
#

JOIN ME

reef geyser
wary saffron
regal maple
barren ledge
#

RELEASE THE MEMES

humble hedge
barren ledge
#

THE HERETIC APPROACHES

lucid aspen
wary saffron
wary saffron
sage lily
wary saffron
regal maple
#

Ashes, looked really good.

lucid aspen
#

many back log to catch up

wary saffron
reef geyser
wary saffron
wary saffron
#

we good? they gone?

regal maple
#

I'm still up in the air on ashes or not

drifting hawk
glossy shard
barren ledge
#

we are safe

#

for now

wary saffron
#

just incase

lucid aspen
#

I do lols

sage lily
#

Plus I would love it if he revisited Palworld, and Potion Craft

barren ledge
#

the cat pics did not work

#

the avatar memes did

sand fox
wary saffron
#

seems like some trolls are here

marsh forge
wary saffron
#

RELEASE THE STRETCHED AVATAR MEMES

regal maple
#

LMAO

wary saffron
glossy shard
humble hedge
#

OHOHO lemme search some

wary saffron
spare topaz
wary saffron
dire burrow
#

It was one creator.

#

He has said this multiple times.

wary saffron
vernal stone
#

While I am sad how this all went down I am hoping this means more Noita streams.

sage lily
cyan jay
#

it was 1 person that where openly talking about it on their stream

sand fox
wary saffron
umbral nest
#

No

glass imp
#

When there is a youtube video, from the guys live stream ..where he is saying for people to dogpile him, he deserves it, keep doing it ..then yes. The creator was calling for the hate train. "Teach him a lesson."

dire burrow
#

Not even Yamato.

bronze pier
#

Distraction pic

waxen trellis
regal maple
#

Yea.. hate trains are a bit way out the way... death threats as well. that's insane.

terse pelican
cyan jay
#

whoever it was, they shouldnt be named due to potential hate beeing thrown their way

sturdy lotus
#

Drama is cringe, watch ferrets and be merry instead

tidal bramble
#

You don't need to know.

wary saffron
waxen trellis
spare topaz
cyan jay
#

you shouldnt care, let the propper platforms deal with it

wary saffron
rotund sage
#

Honestly? Crunchy peanut butter is better than smooth. A sandwich shouldn't be 100% mushy texture. Variation is needed.

drifting hawk
wary saffron
sand cloak
#

It's human to be upset enough that you wanna bop somebody on the nose, but the moment you do it's wrong. It's okay to be upset about this, but that's where it's gotta end.

wary saffron
drifting hawk
wary saffron
sturdy lotus
wary saffron
jolly sky
#

The people who need to know, do know. And they aren't saying their names as they don't want to keep the hate train going forward.

glass imp
#

Pushing out "this is the guy that did it" just funnels more views the guys way, more attention which can either fuel it or make things even worse. If you /have/ to know who it was, do research on your own and not worry about how a streamer or their chat spoon fed you specific details or perfectly out-of-context clips that become gospel.

wary saffron
drifting hawk
sterile eagle
# wary saffron

it's been going on like this for over 12 hours straight (or 72, idk)

wary saffron
drifting hawk
wary saffron
cyan jay
tidal bramble
#

I am loving the meme spam

drifting hawk
mortal pollen
#

nah youre fishing for data you dont need and then screaming he said she said when you dont get it...

regal maple
sand cloak
rotund sage
drifting hawk
#

COUNTER MEME ATTACK IS WORKING

mortal pollen
#

if thats not bandwagoning idk what is

wary saffron
warm trench
#

Going to have to chase down my cats and get more pictures.

drifting hawk
wary saffron
bronze pier
#

Cold, then hot...

exotic forge
#

So we don't know the specifics of this. However, Thor did say that he is only reporting those who are orchestrating hate brigades in which he has evidence of

drifting hawk
humble hedge
wary saffron
cyan jay
#

no, we dont know, do we want to know or care to know

humble hedge
drifting hawk
exotic forge
#

You don't know who he reported either, so I suggest keeping some of your assumptions to yourself until you do

shadow dawn
sand cloak
jolly sky
#

The people who need to know, do know. Thats all there is to it.

sturdy lotus
#

It is unwise to mention names, because like it or not, people will go perpetuate the drama. That is not what anyone here wants. So, we should be merry instead!

humble hedge
wary saffron
drifting hawk
humble hedge
river island
#

What's with the meme spam

wary saffron
drifting hawk
regal maple
#

the meme spam comes with the drama talk

wary saffron
winter mountain
#

Partly those who do know don't want to encourage bandwagoning. It's much of a muchness rn. People are tired of the drama here

humble hedge
umbral nest
exotic forge
rotund sage
wary saffron
tranquil jewel
drifting hawk
sand cloak
#

The memes wont stop what have you done!?

dense quest
#

.....

humble hedge
wary saffron
mortal pollen
#

so if we dont know and you dont know... whats the discussion? you want to speculate. thats your idea of a "discussion"

wary saffron
drifting hawk
regal maple
#

if you ever want a ton of memes, just bring up the drama

waxen trellis
glass imp
wary saffron
drifting hawk
waxen trellis
sand cloak
wary saffron
humble hedge
river island
#

Drama should be over by now, it happened, nothing can alter that

sturdy lotus
drifting hawk
sturdy lotus
#

Drama is cringe, watch ferrets instead

wary saffron
flint sinew
#

you're crossing a line

jagged badge
wary saffron
humble hedge
#

apologies

exotic forge
# river island Drama should be over by now, it happened, nothing can alter that

It's not over because Thor just got kicked last night and content creators are farming it. Right now they're talking about it on their streams. They're producing multiple videos over the next week and they're going to Foster hate towards Thor. So no, it's not over and it won't be over no matter what we in the server do

ebon dagger
#

Do we know when his next stream is?

rotund sage
humble hedge
winter mountain
#

Agreed.

What are some great indie game recommendations? Recently played axiome verge, it was pretty good. Loved the story, some quality sci-fi cheese.

drifting hawk
wary saffron
river island
#

Depends on what they did, you can't just break tos because your mad at someone over a game

wary saffron
jagged badge
wary saffron
winter mountain
sand cloak
mortal pollen
#

and what did truck do wrong?

exotic forge
#

What do you mean by he obviously did something wrong. Some guy kicked him. Do you not think that guy could make mistakes? As a matter of fact, Tyler one who is currently acting as the guild leader was actually not in form of the kick. So what are you even trying to say about this authority who kicked him?

drifting hawk
wary saffron
humble hedge
humble hedge
rotund sage
drifting hawk
sage lily
humble hedge
wary saffron
drifting hawk
lucid aspen
#

bro stop

south birch
#

lol

wary saffron
jolly sky
#

The people that need the proof, have the proof. Thats all there is to it.

pseudo river
#

jesus I like that the drama has been completely drowned out but can we not throw the baby with the bathwater

drifting hawk
pseudo river
#

I want to actually talk

sand cloak
river island
#

Gonna just block the meme guys

sturdy lotus
#

Incorrect, but also, the drama talk is cringe

drifting hawk
wary saffron
pseudo river
mortal pollen
exotic forge
#

Stop acting like you know anything because you don't. You're in here asking questions at the same time you're pretending like you know everything

glossy shard
#

Gota love the tatical meme ussage GG

rotund sage
#

Pretzel m&ms is where it's at, though

drifting hawk
wary saffron
sand cloak
humble hedge
drifting hawk
humble hedge
bronze pier
glass imp
#

I'm going to be honest, the meme spam is just as annoying at the people coming and poking the bear.

drifting hawk
humble hedge
regal maple
#

he's not going to, because he does not want people to hate brigade. simple as that. he took care of it like an adult, sounds like.

wary saffron
jolly sky
#

It doesn't matter. None of this "matters". If the person promoting the hate and breaking TOS gets banned, that will be the proof.

wary saffron
exotic forge
#

Thor will post these receipts to the people who deserve to see these receipts and who are in authority to actually do something, which means you don't need to see them. You're not worth it to see them

drifting hawk
river island
#

Right, he only needs the names not us, otherwise it's just a flame war

sand cloak
#

Oh damnit that wasn't for you @glass imp sorry

wary saffron
#

(other avatar)

sand cloak
#

Darn chat moves so fast I keep misclicking my replies lol

sage lily
sturdy lotus
#

Drama is cringe, post ferrets

wary saffron
drifting hawk
shadow dawn
#

Guys, please stop responding to that guy, thats fueling the flames

river island
#

Iv watched alot of clips and some of the things other streamers were saying we're insane

remote maple
sturdy lotus