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I thought Ony was easier than MC, but it's been since I was running those on classic back in the day since I've done those raids
It might actually break onlyfangs lol Iโm hoping they are able to clear all of classic tho
glad i can go walk away make a drink and still see people screaming
Fears will make it a pain, especially due to the nature of Tremor totem pulsing
even if it breaks OF, still absolute cinema
Can OF members level alts up? Or can they only start that once their main dies?
They can
i think the rule is alts start at i think 45 was 60 but soda bought it down
I guess since back in the day I wasn't playing hardcore I don't remember all the collateral deaths
Its 40
Iโd be so paranoid id try to level like 8 characters up just in case
Mainly its the tanks being feared, I played alliance so we had fear ward
I think there is a max tho, maybe 1 alt?
with the random running, it adds in cleaves and tail swipes that arent aimed
oh and fire breath too
@viscid kraken Hella great job by all the mods today! Really earning that bread...
They are indeed getting bread ๐
Something like 300 USD to the mods in the past like hour or so if I am counting even remotely accurate.
And they deserve those tips....
They def earned it
I hope they don't just get 300 USD worth of bread then
They get so much bread they make it RAIN sourdough ๐
What about water?
I had some lovely pastry today, with cheese and onion in it, was glorious.
That's what the basement is for.
Why can't I just have money to donate
i got a sign on my door for snow removal service. local kids have hustle
asmon just said it. if you call run dont turn round and say it can be saved
I mean, I'm a 20 (21 year old in 1 month) that has lived on my own for the last 1.5 years 
yup
asmon knows
I dont like agreeing with Asmon
im not a fan usually but WOW his hitting it on head
But I will accept it
Also, I love they said said "Pirate why are you walking" (or something like that) probably to not say Run to make it sound like his fault
wait what?
When Thor was leaving and not re-engaging
They used walk instead of run of him leaving
Iirc
i love that part
Im assuming he was backtracking to see if he could save more at the time
i honestly figured when they said that he was backpeddling to avoid running directly into mobs
Nate - please get out of my head
I understand its nice and spacious and rent free but plz
he likes the view
I mean, he was backpaddling to see if he could do more, but right after they said Thor was walking I think Yamato said its salvageable so its for sure blame for him leaving in my eyes rather then him backpaddling
This is all from what I remember now
So my brain might be faking this
I suspect Yamato didn't have a full view of the situation
Calling run then trying to salvage was a mistake
and then he formed his opinion once he saw it from another POV
Yamato also said run tho
As I don't see how you can see it being salvagable with an ogre butt in your face
how much experience in mmos do those guys have? ik thor is well rounded but the other didnt seem to understand when its called to disengage and run you do that lol not haphazardly turn around and start then say hey lets try
What's even more funny is that the chat swapping harassers are expecting perfect gameplay.
Perfection doesn't exist as a universal fundamental law
yeah that confusion wouldve caused a wipe if everyone listened to Yamato or whoever smh lol
Is Asmon involved now? Sheesh
wow thats deep asmon
Nah he's honestly seeing this from an objective and neutral perspective.
I mean, reacting is Asmons content no?
when is the meeting? an hour?
Asmon normally tries to keep in the center from my experience
I don't watch him, I just know the second hand information about him being controversal.
And Asmon has a metric shit ton of knowledge of WoW. And he's fully on Thors side with what happened.
thats good atleast
healer did the tanks job
Honestly, if I was an healer I might have done the same, not sure in that situation
If I play game it is healer/supportive 90% of the time 
Madness seems like a solid tank
the other thing i've noticed watching different pov's is people are saying "fight" and "salvage it" on the way out and it's very unclear what they mean by that until it's essentially too late
If it's permadeath and things look sketch and people start saying run, I'm not sticking around to ask questions
yup i agree with asmon. i blame mizkif
Isn't it always Mizkif?
Can someone please sum up why Thor is being mentioned on Asmond's stream? I don't watch/like wow, but I also want to make sure it's not like Annie getting bullied the other day
Hate raid cuz 2 people died in a dungeon with him and Thor lived
bad dungeon pull, ended very poorly
What do you mean hate rate? And Asmond isn't playing onlyfangs?
It shouldn't be a duel for guild leader, it should be a leadership test to see who can perform better
Hate raid, mass people entering Thor's stream with hate
Like they both run a high profile raid or something like that and see who does better
no content in doing that though /s
lot of chat hoppers came in saying some very insidious crap
lotta people got banned, including myself lol
if they both run raids and risk the lives of their teams? I can see content in that,.
Gotcha. Like I said, I turn off the stream if wow is on. Haven't watched regularly in a while
THere are still chat hoppers? these people need to do something better with their lives
Tyler probably doesn't want to be Guild Leader anymore and wants it to end asap
I have a feeling it was my "I blame you for my lack of coffee, so im going to go get some. Good luck in the Dungeon"
Im currently banned so I cant tell you if there are chat hoppers lol
I meant it as a rhetoric
"PirateAssassin"
Oh yea, chat is still experiencing a ton of bans
My copium for getting banned will be buying myself a Dagwood Sandwich tomorrow
lmao
One of them being;
"Why does anyone care what asmon is saying lol, that dude is clueless"
Asmon has probably forgotten more about WoW than most people even know about 
....holy cow, the spider section of ULBRS is giving me Naxx vibes for some reason
I mean, the ban that called Thor's glasses goggles was funny imo
I think it's more just people reacting to airchair generals coming in and telling them what they would have done, when it had nothing to do with them. Like with Football, you have a play happen and then everyone wants to comment on how they would have done it or what happened.
armchair*
the amount of friendly fire is massive
honestly, even making jokes during a high energy/high "tension" situation probably has an elevated chance of getting band
banned*
its fine, I will hold it against the mods make them give me a good sandwich recipe from their location nods
And expecting perfect play, when perfection doesn't exist as a universal fundamental law
I wonder if anyone is hate raiding the other 2 survivors
can anyone tell me how far into the stream "the incident" occured. Gotta see it for myself
If perfection doesn't exist in the Universe, its not going to exist in a damn videogame lmao
Jesus would play perfectly
Didn't jesus die?
7:55h
you think Jesus would play a priest?
he was griefed
He was kinda anti violance. i don't think he would raid
Lets not get into religious adjacent talk shall we, as per the rules
sorry, didn't even think of it like that 
i was about to say something but i dont want the mods on me
still will respect the req
i was banned once
Why is this allowed? Its also hate no?
not a good day
Anna - it might of slipped by
Mods probably just missed it, they too are human
theres 23,333, repeating of course, chattters at the moment
I understand
But they probs should see it cuz they also get reported
Was more a question to communicate it nicer to the mods 
I think most of the haters realized they werent getting valadation
Onlyfangs is about content
The content I've seen:
(it's all drama ๐ฉ)
Listening to Asmon cus I want to hear his take and he says "Luckily the druid died" KEKW
They're trying to bait with rotten fish lmao
No not even rotten fish, imaginary rotten fish
I mean, they are baiting me I guess cuz I'm chatting here now 
you know ive never been vindicated by asmon before ..... i feel strange
I'm not going to lie, some of the ban comments are funny
Someone asked if this was the place for the perma ban
thats something i would do
everyone today is mentioning Asmon, did I miss something?
did he say something again
He's reviewing the Dungeon deaths that Thor was in. (Thor survived)
He is talking about it
ah
no we where discussing the weather 
Atleast the group he is in now is doing well
ok thanks
The vibe also just feels way better to watch tbh
I understand sometimes he needs to raid with less vibe for mats ect but vibes like these are nice to have
yeah, I only tune in occasionally for only fangs but so far this is one of the better groups (vibes wise)
When is a group with Winky, Annie and Hubert?
(I would say RedZ aswell but thats too many frontline I think)
that group would be the vibe
Would be amazing
yeah we need to see it
hopefully we get one when annie is 60
What level is she now?
1 sec
Since she died on xMas right? 
says 49 in title
I thought someone said she quit, if she didn't thats good
She's streaming OnlyFangs now
good for her then\
I was watching the drama who was talking trash about her and I thought Tyler said she left thats why I was confused
lol that was funny, his not saying, his not flaming, his nuking
I haven't watch much today and just came back to a lot of weird bans in chat. Can someone update me on what's going on?
Hate raid cuz of 2 deaths being blamed on Thor
are they still hate raiding?
yeh
Yea
wow
Probs for the next 72h
Ohh no, Thor isn't streaming tomorrow right? I wonder if haters will take that as him taking the blame
gosh I hope not
Context: Tomorrow will be no stream so I'm going late today! :picklebongo: from #streams
they 100% will, we gonna get Twitter flooded with "piRATeSoftware not streaming he 100% feels guilty" and nonsense like that

I gave the mods a lot of bread for christmas so I'm on cooldown now ๐คฃ
ooh boy Yamato is directly whispering with Asmon right now
Ofc
Yamato got blocked 
By Thor atleast
lol
And nothing of any worth was lost.
i should have bought more snacks
What does he think he's going to achieve?
i will learn next time
So, you think Yamato is gonna speak over Asmon?
He's shown he's a blowhard
Not that I'm watching
What is asmon streaming under? Never watched his stuf
Yamato is about to get schooled and he doesn't even know it
zackrawrr is his current acc
Asmon isn't gonna calling Yamato
Wait Asmon is refusing to go in call with Yamato? 
zackrawrr is the account, but I advise you, no I implore you, close the chat when you get in.
chat makes me, not want to chat, EVER again
why does bro have so many notepads
yup
She died for it
oof, Yama is trying to say Thor insulted them? I think he might have other issues then just this encounter
Just checked the clips. Someone said "just run" and Thor followed command. Asking why he ran is wild in that context.
I'd advocate for less blaming. just go again. it's hc
Yamato is dodging the question "who said to run"
One of the people that died has said that it wasn't Thor's fault
Sara said it wasn't Thor's fault
(healer)
So both people did
Only one flaming Thor, is Yamato
The tank said it wasn't, both people that died said it wasn't
lmao, the people who died said it's not Thor's fault, that's how wrong Yamato is
The tank also said it wasn't 
AHAHAHAH im not saying its your fault its mainly your fault and the stupid tank
How is it MY fault??? I don't understand is he actually stupid? Saying its 0% his fault
yup
"You're getting farmed" is crazy
i love that
Oh man that made me belly laugh
was the deaths today?
If I was in Thor's place I would have done the exact same thing 
few hours ago
3-4 hours ago
yeah 2 in thors raid
2 deaths, that's why we have asmon talkin bout this
7:55 into the stream
ok thanks
Speaking of, asmon has almost 100k viewers over this lmao. Insane
I just went back in the youtube feed so I can see more before and after the clip but thank you
Zach feels like he's doing an after action debrief for fighter pilots
No BS, just an objective breakdown of the video
Sheesh, everyone is watching Asmon now, almost 100k
I jumped on he was 35, 2 minutes later he was at 85
I feel a lot of the hate is fueled by the fact that raiding is closer than the time it takes to reach 60 again for most players
On Asmons stream watching the vod Pirate why are you walking bro
The internet is a crazy place eh
Refusing to use the word run
100K viewers WOW
nah asmon has him on toast
Ok, this is amazing
Ok this is the first time I love Asmons reaction
Why isn't he running the guild? lol
Right? Like, not a fan in general, but digging his reaction
How do people not understand combat command.
Run run run= full abort, pull the cord and get out
Yamato's only argument is that Thor ran away, even tho he was the one that said RUN RUN RUN
Ok so if you don't want a full pull out, don't say run like 5 times
There's no guessing or questioning, it's a command like yelling "cease fire" at a gun range. Disobedience is not tolerated because it can get people... Killed
It should really be, if you don't want a full pull out, don't say run ONCE
Using command phases matters. Don't call for an abort then stand a fight and be surprised everyone is leaving
Asmon chat said Wrong 100% u suck doesn't Asmon have thousands of hours in WoW
a run call is a nuke option you call it you follow it

Why are people such idiots?
where is asmon live
Thinking a boss is weaker then minions
this is hilarious
zackrawr on twitch
thank you
ur gonna lose braincells though
hide chat immediately
Yamato wants to call to badly
ads do so much less damage than a boss, that's why the run to call was only given after the boss pull lmao, how do people not get that
Lack of information. Opinions without information ends up with people just yelling over each other.
hi, i just spawned here, can someone explain what happened?
hot take thor should get exactly 1/5th of the blame
Hate raid cuz 2 people died in Thors raid
Nope
How can he take 1/5th of the take when he wasn't the one pulling 2 groups+boss
most of the blame should go to druid because of the overpull
Pull was bad, call to run was made, then they called to try to salvage when most of the resources were burned
partying with dinguses is his fault haha
even then
He was following orders. Run run run = abort.
hes trying to meet streamers
VALID
What exactly happened? I missed it. I get that there was a run that had people dying but that normally doesnt blow up like this
Bad communication in a raid got 2 killed and people are trying to assign blame. Thor heard "run run run" and aborted the run, then the others turned around for some reason
Run was called and then the rogue tried to back out the run
So Thor was in full retreat while they stopped running and died
... you dont call run and keep fighting...
the rogue did
and people died
and the rogue called the run
They did. In the vod you hear "run run run" Thor does, turned back and threw a Blizzard and then kept running
yup
Maybe "fall back and regroup" if you wanna try again... but run means run
Retreat =/= run
Thats not even a wow thing, thats a real life thing
Or "Kite them"
My example was "cease fire" at a gun range. It's not a joking matter
Run means get out, think of yourself first (if you can help then try, but if they are dead leave them), retreat means back out slowly so we can have another try
im not even calling out the going centre run on dire which is so stupid
Who was calling the dungeon shots? Was it the same person as the run run run call?
"how many subs to kill" what the hell
Exactly. Guy who said run clearly intended retreat and not abort. Really bad on coms
if you go complet crazy for dying in hardcore, then you shouldn't play hardcore.
people who mald will mald
guy who said run THREE TIMES i might add
Why didn't you play their character for them? Come on man! people memeing yamato go crazy
Wild to see
Is he non native English?
Who made the call? Are they a wow vet or are they new to the game?
tyler is watching it now
Yamato made the call (rogue), he plays league
Yamato? Like yamatocanon the league coach?
no
different Yamato
on twitch he is "Yamatosdeath"
The clip title or his channel title?
Channel title
channel
Question, I did a petition on twitch itself - will I get an email if its denied
You get a dm I believe
NO WAY, yamato went live just to "beef with asmon" this is amazing
Haaaa... kids these days
Content pull lmao
and if I disagree with the result, do I have other recourse?
apparently asmon is friends with pirate
it's kinda weird that Tyler is dismissing Asmon's take
yamatosdeath is an insane specimen of a league streamer, not surprised he reacted like this
"onlyfangs is for content" ๐
I suspect its because of the game T1 has a tendency to say "Wow players"
First time watching yamato's pov
I mean... it IS for content. Just dont be a douche about it
I'm not even going to give him a view
yeah nah
I wonder how many people are opening Zach's stream because they think he's playing wow now
LOL
Its on Just Chatting
I have no words for his POV tbh
Or it was when I check 5 mins ago
It is, but they see wow so they click
That Yamato dude didnt even die why is he so damn salty? lmao
cus he has a big ego
Cuz he's a league streamer
how is blood DK in retail these days? lol this is making me want to play again
(keep in mind all the people who died said it wasn't pirate's fault)
Yamato feels like he's never said "I was wrong"
Zach isn't as attentive about it as Thor, he's been in the wrong category for hours before

Oh boy... time for another meeting
im putting Orks together and all i hear is "Murderer" and just shoot to the stream
that hurt
what's happening? 
guild meeting
the ban list must grow
I missed the beginning, did Tyler quit?
no, duel pending
regardless of duel outcome soda going to be leader again
oof Snupy has died twice today
Poor snupy
Which actual boss fight was it earlier? vs King Gordok?
105k viewers...
omg i just opened Thor's stream on my desktop with better twitch
so many messages are getting deleted!
Thye need a "speaking stick", if you don't have the stick, you don't talk
it comes as a t-shit too lmao
It became a meme after the AK Guy brought one to a bar for a music video shoot
"Scrubs" lol
Mods deserve bread for todayโs banhalla.
I really can't understand EU laws. I've reported like 5 people who wrote very extreme messages from the hate raid and every time Twitch replies with "This report is covered under Digital Services Act of the EU and we could not identify a violation base on your report". Does EU actually condone hateful behaviour?
Mods deserve cake
That's twitch, not the EU
Cake is fancy sweetened bread, so, yes.
It's also automated
Twitch decides if what is reported breaches the rules, not the EU. They hardly send every report up to the EU courts.
most likely because they cannot be asked to do the paperwork
I mean the moderation is from Twitch but they seem to quote EU laws in their final decision.
Did I hear that voice on stream correctly? Was that Yamato leaving OnlyFangs?
Having worked in online places and games, the company, so twitch, decides. They can say "based on EU law" but it's the company, twitch who decidee.
Not the EU
So direct your ire correctly.
It'll be losely based of EU law, but it won't 100% follow it
No it was Bislan the intern leaving.
who was Bislan the intern for?
Trolls
They're not really in a position to voluntarily get rid of viewership either so they are most likely pushing it as far as the law can allow.
oof
Been reporting people as well, but yeah, they seldom do anything, even with direct messages.
Yup, just report.
That's all you realistically do.
It can feel like it sucks, and at times it really does.
Yup. Like whoever decides doesn't really matter. What matters really is that messages promoting self harm should be insta ban based on report. But all I get is "no violation occurred" which is wild
as with many reporting systems it's also probably based on flags, meaning even if your report does not do anything, it adds up.
the more people report, the more likely it is that they do something about it
Yeah, that understandable why you'd be pissed at that.
Completely understandable.
I have reported people in the past for racism and national threats, and they usually ban those immediately. But hateful conduct I've never seen a ban for when I've reported
What did I just watch?!
peak
LOL
stream is going crazy
I wanted to just come and say I hope the mods are doing okay today. You all are working hard and we appreciate it!
im just sad I got banned in the process /sadge
i am sorry mods, i said a no no word, and i gots banned. i feel so bad now. i normaly dont egg on in chat.
im not risking typing in chat i like no being banned
it's wild seeing like ever 15-20 messages there's a deleted one
I just want to know if the guy who called run is a native english speaker
IDK who it was
Honestly; the call was right he did try to help as best he could
yeah, they have the shotguns out for this hoard, there's some splash damage unfortunatly
I personally plan to hold this against the mods....or go buy several types of sandwich meats in order to make my work lunch for tomorrow
ahh. I heard him say run, then retreated to the door and turned back. I thought it might have been a language issue
it will most likely be the latter
the moment you say "run" you dont stop
thor stopped to try to AOE mobs coming to slow em down
Imagine being so bored that you have to go in game to constantly type in game that Thor did something HOURS ago
the only way things could have gone different
so you will eat lots of bread in spite of the mods?
nah, imma have a hella good sandwich
Kappa
(im asking if that person was ESL and messed up the words)
oh ESL was a thing too
Sandwhich aka 2 pieces of bread with something else (could be bread) inbetween
Or so parasocial over the streamer that you watch, that you feel the need to defend and whiteknight for them lmao
is there an image of the food talk we have alot. i wanna bring up to all my friends about wellingtons.
Yea, the only thing that could have been different is if he had the talent that roots for frost
but thats more of a PVP talent
I only heard the "fateful event" and couldn't get a read if he was 100% on his wording, or fumbled and was meaning only a small retreat but called an abort
either way, dude called abort
Jeez what did I miss
abort is abort no questions
Two died in a dungeon, everyone started brigading on thor
Oof
Mod's whipped out the shotguns to fight the horde
raid went sideways and 2 died. run run run was called and thor went to evac
the others turned back half way to freedom
Seldoon, it kinda triggers me when you call a dungeon a raid lol
but thats the wow player in me xD
they're diffrent? i thought you raided a dungeon
I havent interacted with wow since i hit level 40 when BC came out
hence why i don't really watch stream anymore
but once again, thats me being a old school wow raider and its like 20 years of experience
boss was CC immune you are right; what actually got people killed was the call later on where people wanted to salvage it
"run run run... okay run... now turn and fight" bro what even is that
I don't care for WoW at all, not a fan of MMO's, but I like to watch from an outside perspective
if someone tells me to roach, and this is me speaking as a mage player, I've already roached out and left you on your own
I love AOC for this reason. Wow is just too sweaty and all the content is just this kind of drama
either that or i have horrible timing and only come in when it's happening
AOC is going to get sweaty once its out of beta, I will put money on that. These are EVE and other competative players. They get into it
I bet if Thor was closer to the pack he wouldn't be getting so much hate
The indecision was the killer here. Well actually, as has already been brought up, the moment that 3 groups and the Boss were aggro'd was the moment it went sideways
oh i know, but its such a diffrent class of sweat in a much larger world that it's still interesting.
spoken to my old raiding team all have said if they was the leader and yamato was acting like that after they would have Gkicked him and roasted him in every forum
Fair
WOW is an amusement park. watching onlyfangs is watching adults at Disney squabble (not trying to be mean, but everyone calls wow an amusment park game)
I hope the meme level is high in AOC. EVE had some GREAT meme's made during their wars. Like TEST vs GOONS
yea the only difference I feel at the time, mages had a talent called frostbite that adds a 15% chance to root
works good with blizzard
The people who expect the "Ride and Die together" in Hardcore WoW when the call to RUN has been made, don't play Hardcore WoW.
but the problem is, its a pvp talent
I will happy ride with you in hardcore, but the only way I should be dying as a mage, is if im in melee eating cleaves
forget that
I think i got banned by accident because if all the hate chatters. I put in an unban request. Would it be annoying to the mods to put a mod ticket in too?
yes
i would
Yes. Making a mod ticket won't make the unban any faster.
just gotta be paitent, there's a flood
let the thing run its course
You're good, just chill and watch. If the ban was unwarranted, you'll be unbanned.
this is the first time something like this happened too tbh, so if there are moments to improve it will be identified
that was shotgun ban right there
mods are flooded with everything earlier khronos said making a ticket during this issue will not speed things up so for now I would leave it
If anyone wants to hear PEAK propaganda from old EVE, take a listen.
A love song for my friends in SoCo, sung to the tune of Maroon 5's "Payphone". Enjoy it, you fucking bastards.
Additional uploads available here: http://www.sindelsuniverse.com/?p=501.
I'm on a
No, they are most likely calling Pirate a rat
oooooooooooooooh i didnt spot that
good eye tq
see, it's their version of a ligma, just worse, MUCH worse
did thor ever have that interview?
At some point, everyone needs experience in leading raids/dungeons. Leaving it to the people who know how to raid all the time leads to a small elite group of people. This Guild is for people of all skill levels. Expectations just need to tempered is all.
It's not that a "noob" was leading the raid, it was that there was no real leader for the raid
Run is an abort call. "Break and Run" is GTFO
if you're thinking about it when it's called your wrong
Chat is it possible to tip the mods with bits?
!pally
no pally only
Wait whats the command
like when someone says cease fire at a gun range, it's hostile to not comply and the concequence can kill people.
Thor gets bits because twitch takes some of the revenue, mods get 100% of donos through pally
The people mad at Pirate for roaching are the same pople who laugh when Pikaboo does it
!tip
100% of your donations through Pally go to the Mods AND NOW GET CONVERTED INTO BREAD yarrCheer https://pally.gg/tip/piratesoftware
gotcha, thanks yall!! 
they get bread now?!
well, that is how they get their bread
I'd have happily donated many times over if it didn't use Paypal
I didn't know it was only PP payment
โโI would love to see the stats from the mods work from today, is that possible. Curiosity is killing me lol. I see all the twitch actions lol
That likely isn't going to happen as this is their actual job that they're getting paid to do
UNLESS khronos streams the unbans
I know that its their job, but I have been watching for a few weeks and never seen this level of disrespect in chat. I feel for them having to moderate at the level they are.
Which is also as unlikely to happen tbh
id watch that all day
I wish we got like a "monthly action report" or something like that, but that's needless work for the team
what is Khronos' twitch so I can follow?
I am just curious how many messages have had to be removed, reported or banned.
KhronosVII
They've said 3000+ banned (IIRC)
Whoa, just from today?!
yeh, hate raids be wild
That is insane, sorry I missed that comment. I wouldnt have asked here.
I bet those same people laugh when Pika roaches
IIRC Thor doesn't like the idea of making stuff like that public, as he doesn't like the idea of promoting ban numbers and such
LMAO IT WAS CRAZY
it's fine to ask about anything, there are very few stupid questions, I would say none, but that is apparently wrong given the hate raiders
I think he might be on the spectrum, so making fun of his physical reactions might not be the best thing to do
Rogue did 0 cc and gets mad at Pirate for not ccing
i'm not making fun of his physical reactions, it's more that his community is shouting at Thor not calling things out, whilst he wasn't either
I quoted the wrong person, sorry
dw
You know
watching the stream, now that he has more experience
T1 did very good with this chest in terms of organization
better than last week at least
hmm, so i just saw the wipeclip. man that pull was...lets say unfortunate. imho, theres a chance they get out of there with 1 death, but thats the minimum. and for that optimal 1 death everyone runs and the tank just goes down with the ship. which is harsh but kinda fair as it was his pull. and thats rly the reason for all the chat chaos today?
Run is a standarized phrase. a triple "RUN RUN RUN" is a firm abort like a pilot calling "mayday mayday maday" or "pan pan pan"
I was already wondering if it was an ESL probably and that he was probably was trying to convey a small tactical retreat, but absolutly fumbled it
Is this an assumption or something you actually know? Because it's not cool either way but saying it's not ok because of an if statement isn't the right reason.
"Everyone jump ship, we are sinking!"
"Why is everyone swimming! We can patch the ship!"
yeah, Thor was out of the room and gone when he heard "okay, stand here and fight"
Like, lulwut
The very moment where death was unavoidable for someone was when the 2 groups AND the boss got pulled
That was the start of the downfall
Also don't understand how for the past 3+ hours people still are rehashing the same "He said run" "No accountability" "You could've used a slow ((HE'S IMMUNE))" repeat repeat repeat repeat.
I'm saying you can criticize someone for their negative behavior but you might want to steer clear of attacking them for their physical mannerisms because you don't know if its just them being weird of an issue of theirs.
I had to close stream i'm just tired of hearing a repeated loop for 4 hours.
Because those people don't play WoW and are pretending they know better.
"knock it off" will stop fighter dogpilot practice
yeah, i meant from that point. and the sudden call to stand and fight here was just insane ammounts of copium ๐
I would argue the reason doesn't matter why. The reason doesn't make it any worse or better.
I have no idea what you are trying to point out
Yea, and what some people aren't understanding is that Thor could have had infinite mana, and someone still would have died. From that moment onwards, there wasn't a timeline that exists that would have ended well for everyone in that group
They should not be leading if they are infirm on communication tbh
You led with "He might be on the spectrum" "-so you shouldn't do this" (paraphrase)
I'm saying it doesn't matter what led them to be doing that, you shouldn't do it regardless.
life is a spectrum. be kind โค๏ธ
From my experience in WoW, in Hardcore and other games: its doesnt f*ing matter if Run was the only or even the best call at this point. Because once its called you RUN! everything else will just be cursed from that point on, because your not coordinated any longer, some people might have used their escape tools already etc. etc.
"drop back"
i swear i just read run doesnt mean run
For a League player, he should have known the word "Kite"
That would have been a better word if he didn't want a full retreat from everyone
or back
they didnt commit to the run call after saying run, the hesitation to try and fight still, killed them
they told hte priest to heal the tank
and the priest died as a result
o7 sara
ah look yamato quote
Everyone who isn't Yamato is accepting responsibility, and have seen the mistakes of their actions. Yamato (who didn't even die) is the only one making a big stink about it
what ever happened to hubert?
Yamato is Yamato, just watch any of his league shit and he is always like this
Isn't he on vacation?
Well if thats the case, then he has a lot of growing up and maturing to do.
he's on holiday
There was even a League video made about how Yamato is
He pressed 0 cc and got mad Pirate didn't press cc
Soo, not gonna give more context since it could be seen as hate but yea, that should say enough
WELL he tried to cc, but the boss is immune to cc so nothing happened
He blinded, he could have stunned
Immune to CC....
He could have blinded a different mob
the boss IS NOT immune toi stuns
Rogue could have kidney the boss
I watcha lot of the folks he plays with and whenever they do a Collab I prepare myself mentally
oic.
He seems like the perfect example of blame shifting in an attempt to protect his own ego
Reddit isn't that bad ๐ฆ
it's pretty bad
Its the same as any social media, you look at the good stuff and block the rest
ong, seems like he'd be good at a corporate job
I dont understand what the call for "accountability" will achieve. The fight wasn't initiated by Thor... so account for what?
The pull was bad, the positioning was bad, the awareness was bad, the callouts was bad.
Could they have done more? Maybe, but not without the risk of complete fail. He ran when he was told to.
What happened exactly?
Oh for sure
OnlyFangs Death in Diremaul. www.twitch.tv/videos/2351197472?t=8h1m14s
TL;DR is a double death in DM because of an overpull
Wait they're still going on about it
"run run run" call was made.
the hate raid is still going, the mods still being goats
Shit happens, it's a game. Hug each other, love each other, and keep on going
5 hours later the vitriol is still coming yes...
TLDR; Bad decisions lead to bad circumstances, only one person in the group is buttfrustrated and looking to shirk responsibility for his own actions when everyone else is fine with what happened.
i'd say it's going to be about 72 hours of this
well, actually idk because Thor's off tommorow so it might die down
It's to make the people calling for that feel less like their favorite streamer caused their own death from the overpull
Oh is there a post somewhere to why he's taking a day off out of curiosity?
What hate raid? i've been sleeping since 6 am and just woke up. What happened? i'm so confused. i joined the stream with Thor talking about harassment.
Yeah I get it - but its so ... stupid
Shaye's birthday
Oh SHIT nice. I expect thousands of Happy Birthday messages in Discord
yes
I agree, but fans tend to be idiotic when they think "their champion" is being threatened
It's almost as if even streamers are normal people and can make mistakes, why is it a big deal if it was streamers fault versus someone elses? Besides as far as I am aware in any group based game it's the group at fault, rarely an individual
Idk man my brain here's the word run and makes it a synonym for flee idk what people are on about
Because unfortunately, the Internet has made it "normal" to shit on other people who make mistakes, or were perceived to make mistakes
i seriously need to know...
Be parasocial for all means - but overdoing it and brigadeing for pixels in a hardcore game (where everyone should expect permadeath) is idiocy on a level I cant comprehend.
But mistakes happen and everyone deserves grace for them D:
except me
if I make a mistake I am a horrible person
How long have you been on the internet? /snark
ong, crying over pixels is insane, as they were saying in the meeting, don't care if you die, just go again
Indeed.
i know the situation is stupid, but i feel so confused?
who did the hate raid and what's it about?
genuinely
Oso the fact that some of them dun have relevant experience in WoW and jus hate raiding sux, reminds of all the AOC hate when haters dunno anything abt gamedev process
Deaths in Diremaul.
The people who don't know how to play WoW, focusing on one timeline out of the infinite possibilities and thinking that Thor could saved everyone. Thor heard the call to RUN. He abided by that call. Which is was the correct move.
seems like it's from Yamato, but it's because of a double death in WoW HC
mhm
It seems to come from reddit mostly
That's how I see it too, it's hate for the sake of hate
let me guess. lsf?
Wait till they hear of "rogue-like" 
Was Yamato the same dude that got pissed at him for taking all the greens in a dungeons when he agreed ahead of time to let him do it
And if you're going into Hardcore WoW with no expectation of dying, and emotionally connect yourself to that expectation, thats on YOU.
Those same people laugh when Pikaboo roaches
truth
I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was
Just watched the clip. Not Pirate's fault, looks like callouts were a mess. "Run away" and then "wait nvm" and then "run away" and then "wait nvm"
And no mana to do shit with
I believe so lmao, there have been quite a few posts on lsf
When isn't Reddit bad
Which is how every sensible and reasonable person sees it.
OH MY LORD
I just watched the cip and I dont see how anyone coud blame Thor for that?? They called run, he ran and he had no mana. Its not his fault they overpulled. Bro cant just be their jesus and save everything.
Yeah it's also a video game, people gotta go touch some grass
lsf has multiple posts on the situation...
Majority of the comments are jus insulting Thor or jus personal attack... Ppl really need to touch grass smh
who wants to bet that less than 5% of that 4k actually play HC WoW
I bet less
mods be like: "You come into my house on the day Winky's getting married and ask me to ban you" 
Ye, pretty much
No I know, but saying <<1% doesn't feel right
Even during the Annie incident LSF was having a huge hoohah...
Rlly ppl need to touch grass
LSF is just a big drama subreddit. Just pay it no attention
Very tru
They're the same people that laugh when Pika roaches on people
They're just mad cus it's Pirate
Hence u see the common personal attacks that Thor usually mentions on strim
With a nice touch of ban hammer after
just to add on, if you ever go through Thors shorts and look at the newest comments, you'll often find people telling wild stories that have no basis and actually gaining traction with new viewers
Ahahahahahahaha
I know it
I was hoping you'd ask a food question
It's just so bad
It's the part of your healthcare that insurance pays for until you've met your deductible
oh
It's ok, the Perma bans bring rolled out on Stream are just people we wouldn't want in the community anyway. They're just showing themselves now and getting the nonsense out of the way.
agreed
It's basically preventative measures
I will say that ahmpy showing a clip earlier with, essentially, an example to support his take felt like a learning experience for me, but at the same time HC is high stakes and if you don't trust your party completely, I 1000% get what thor did
Blizzard needs to add therapists to the game
I did hardcore D3 when with coworkers I saw every day, they dropped me the moment I made a mistake. It's literally keep character or lose it. thems the brakes.
A copay is basically what you pay for a medical service and your insurance covers the rest (if you're lucky) up to a certain point where your insurance covers everything (again, if they decide they will)
A quick summary: in the US, insurance doesn't fully cover your health care until you've paid a certain amount, usually around $1500 USD, over all your health care expenses for the year. Until you've paid that, they only pay part of the cost.
Yt chat got so many hate raiders I decided to come here instead.
Yea, I usually come by after stream.
I think I typed the tips command more 50 times in the 5hrs there I might have caused an intermittent gdos to pally. Mods having to deal with so much psychic damage.
Hi, it depends on the type of healthcare insurance you have, if you have dual coverage, etc...
But in short, most plans have what's called a deductible - between 1000-2000 ttpically for single people, more for family.
Until you've reached that deductible - your insurance (outside of preventative care per AHA) will not pay their portion.
Once you hit deductible is when your benefits kick in, where it's closer to the advertised split of say - 80% of bill paid for
then after is something typically called "catastrophic" coverage or max Out of pocket limit, where if you hit that number subsequently, insurance will cover 100% ๐
there we go 1,789
whelp
YT as well?? sadge
Yeah, very sadge
Yeah, that's a better summary than I provided XD
I unfortunately know too much of that machine @pine isle lmao
My plan does coinsurance instead of copays, so I was a little iffy on the details of a copay plan X3
Depends entirely on the context. The ban appeals are individually investigated.
I got banned for agreeing that the pull was terrible 
yea I suspect i know the comment
'just, doesnt fill me with much comment as i was short when I appealed too
didnt swear or nothing
but still feel bad for being...curt
Then if that's truly the case, then it is likely you just got caught up in the crossfire.
All you can do is wait, and if nothing happens you can make a ticket and continue to wait
Ok sounds good, I will say I didn't know you can't see chat while banned that kinda sucks xD
I'm not really big on watching twitch so I didn't fully understand how important it is to pay your mods until I started watching a couple days ago and holy moly I get it now 0.0
mods = best + deserving of cake and bread
Could be worse, Streamers have an option to enable banned viewers from even watching the Stream
these people are effectively working customer support
The LSF threads are awful... good grief.
I don't know why you would pick that option, because all those people are still watching the ads right? So you get money from them being haters
put in an unban request, explain your reasoning, and itll be processed as soon as we can
mods put in so much work thats not really seen and is often underappreciated
w mods
i got banned for saying why is he addressing the trolls at all...?
And as usual customer support get massive psychic dmg jus like mods. Pet the mods 
sounds good appreciate it
yah I know that much. wild
i apologize for the curt comment in my req
I can see a perfectly good reason. To stop haters from clipping your streams and posting content from it
@mark Put in a ticket. If it was innocuous and not hate/toxic at the time, it'll be cleared. Mods are humans and was in triage-mode..
i know you guys at the time had 27k in chat
please put in an unban reqest on twitch and we will process it when we can
the funny part is they just get silently shadow banned. learned my lesson the hard way
Anyone has a feeling Thor will delete the vod, coz I sure do
Please don't put in tickets here for twitch bans, they are handled on twitch itself
ah
i mean if he doesnt thats his perogitive
Don't put in a mod-ticket. Leave it to happen on the Twitch side. Putting in a ticket here will not speed up the process
Ah there we go lmao
Chat wasn't scrolled down to see
Does anyone know if you lose your follower age since being banned unfollows the channel?
yeah got it.
i didnt think getting banned removes the follow
and seeing chat
... he's not on my list anymore huh
bro why does he keep addressing the trolls on stream??
he just gives them more and more power
its insane
More trolls banned the better
Thor was telling the rest of chat not to engage with the hate raiders
He's not addressing the trolls, he's addressing members of the community who have asked and don't know whats going on
yeah no shit but that just makes it even worse, its obvious
Nah
dont feed the trolls
Well haters gonna hate, nth much to be done 
Well the mods would jus ban the trolls either ways
I'd argue if you're in a position to perma ban them from the community, feed them to bring them out of hiding, then its just preventative measures
LMAO?
thats an insane take
absolutely insane
Tone it down
Uncalled for
why would you bait them out?
this isn't Thor's first rodeo
Perm ban from the whole of Twitch
Praise the mods at these kind of times 
To ban them from the community and Twitch. If they're the type to act that way, they wouldn't be wanted regardless.
Funny thing about the yt bans there isn't a good way to get unbanned. Yt's ban list is in chronological order of ban and unsearchable.
Mods are across all chats
they really need to work on their system
right, but the YT modding tools are...trash
so I feel bad having to unclutter that cluster of a mess
Yea, yt moderation stuff is really behind
I'm not saying that Thor is baiting on purpose. But if what he says to people of the community to fill them in on whats going on, and it brings some Trolls out of the woodwork and they get banned, then thats only a good thing.
chicken or the egg
Turkey
Not really an applicable comparison
trolls love getting reaction, so trolls try to get reaction, then the cycle repeats
Then they get banned and they can't talk in the chat again.
the pit of these kids are bottomless
you're working on the assumption that there's a finite amount LOL
Or, as Thor and the Mods do, report them to twitch and get their actual account banned
Oh no, more people to report to Twitch to get perm banned
well, there is, because there are a finite number of people on twitch
And those ppl who create alts after getting banned immediately gets flagged as ban evaders
best to take the lumps
Even better if they have a verified account, 'cause IIRC they can't create an account with the same Phone Number if they want to get verified again
Ok, there is still call of voids takes on yt, yeesh.
Thor doesn't care about what they say, mods are getting payed for banning, I don't see the big problem here about trolls liking reactions
I mean, I view mods more as the QA on the community
they ensure we aren't a complete turn off to actual new comers
I think that's a pretty good way to see it
this sprintsoftware guy in the YouTube chat ๐ญ
The part that you pay at the desk that your insurance doesn't cover.
yeah mods just try make sure the stream and things are a good place to be
Though I can only see top chat on my tv
what
ah there we go
LOL
just ignore
And banned
gee
Welcome to my block list
i couldn't even understand what that person said
Nice shot whoever that was, trigger finger ready
Nothing important
they were so lost in their own sauce

Call of void

looks like twitch chat is slowly shrinking too
PETTHEMODS
you cant make me
Petthemods 

You had to go and say it didn't you 
what can I say
is what im sayin
I am an angry feller
the rules of the universe ensure it
jinxed
There are 4 chat commands on yt for donations to mods cool.
the fact its below 23k is a good thing though assuming that the 5k were bad actors
Who is Ahmpys and why do people care of their take on this?
people are fishing for recations that cater to their take
theyre just trying to do anything that backs up their claim
while understanding nothing
5k people being bad actors is a stretch
i'd say maybe a few hundred but that's it
eggplant emoji...
woo!
asmon was like completely on his side with what happened just not much more you can do but they just come up with crazy reasons to try justify why hes on thors side
id genuinely be curious how many youve banned after today
definitely hundreds
I can't even read the comments fast enough before a mod gets them, all the mods are AI confirmed!
the reason that the mods can't have bread is because they are robots!

over 1000
We will have to terminate you for finding out
most likely xd
Nah actually, thor confirmed the ban number 
1.7k+ bans on twitch alone. That's the usual number of viewers on yt side.
oh gross i do not like this color for the horde tag 
Ya its not a great color
Honorable kill color it is
As it turns out, someone who knows how WoW actually works will side with the decisions that makes the most sense. In this case, was Thors decision making.

Is Thor not doing TTS because of the hate?
๐ค
he's probably not doign it because he forgot to ping it
also there was stuff happening
Like the meetings ect
I'm sure he has a way to weed out the bad TTS's
He does, he has a "scrub" button on the Stream Deck
p sure he can read the transcripts of each one before he plays it
am i the only one that picture the haters like a south park episode "rabble, rabble, rabble"
Hello! Out of context in this discussion, do we know if Thor has any intentions of playing other games other than WoW or AoC? I am missing on the noita gameplay a lil i find this cozy โบ๏ธ
He plays what he wants to play, and he wants to play WoW and AoC.
Thats pretty much it
Ok that's fair
He's back to doing TTS. Doing TTS while the guild stuff is happening is a bit chaotic.
idk, anything that distracts from the insanity in chat and could spark conversation seems like a good idea right now
His ears must of been burning lol
Thor has discord open too I think.
did Thor ever say if he watched Solo Leveling?
Metaphor Monday and Factario Friday sounds like a good option imo
Love watching Solo Leveling.
I was seening every 15-20 messages someone would take a digger, so that sounds right lmao
I never know what to trust with Thor's metrics as he keeps them in his head
Mods are doing a great job, the hate messages are gone so quick
he is also reporting them to twitch to have their account banned
so that might be 2500 less twitch accounts today, not just banned chatters
yeah
The mods have a system where they can see messages before they are displayed, which gives them the opportunity to get on those comments quickly
hes also been getting the names for people in game whispering about it too
is this something he said?
He was sending in reports for accounts that harrased him that are other streamers who are probobly going to be b&
In a less...busy stream we wouldn't even see the messages before they are banned
yes. he does it daily as a matter of course if its earned. there's always a few but some days it's heavy
Yep
I figured some thing like that had to be the case.
im pretty sure better TTV still shows them
He and Khronos (and maybe other mods) also did the same when the hate train was coming for Annie
7tv can as well.
Many extensions do
Oh it does, as does Chatterino, but in standard normal Twitch Chat, we wouldn't see them
Did Thor ever do his charity interview?
Interviewie had an emergency at their rescue so it was rescheduled
Yeah, rescue stuff is definitely more important than an interview.
Yt top chat seems to have alot less call of void now
I just feel like he's going to be feeding the wow addiction>interview>WoW
and it'll be past the Yt vod
omg I just saw someone writing in mixed chinese get banned
international idiocy
It's become a copypasta, I've seen tons of that exact comment already
Saw something similar in yt chat earlier those comments kept getting deleted.
Mods always delete the non-english stuff.
probably has an english only rule in the first place, most non company streams do
it's 50-50 text
Man all the children in livestreamfails sure are angry lmao what tools
Yea, that's what I was seeing
Children, and hateful people looking for reasons to hate.
Right? Life must be boring for them this morning for this to blow up so much
Seems so
I mean, it's LSF. If anything happens on twitch they're immediately all over it
i mean, any thing that happens in onlyfang blows up for a day or two and then thats it
will always happen when you have so many big streamers involved
This mess started and yt went from having 2.4k viewers to 3.4k at the peak of it.
Just wait for a partial wipe in MC. The LSF traffic will probably break twitter
Err
Sorry lol
MC's gonna be rough for them, yeah
twitch went from like 20 k up to about 33 k at peak
I'm screenshot that and upload it to LSF 
The second I hear โrunโ in coms for any group content I turn and run
Their goal is to get through Naxx, right?
I love the good vibes crew that he has tho with Hubert and Annie
It's absolutely wild. From a purely anthropological standpoint, it's fascinating though to so clearly observe what a pure echo chamber looks like. People so vehemently against anything that challenges their view, the suborning of hypocrisy. It's crazy.
Oh, I saw your comment get absolutely obliterated by downvotes, I just recognized the username. Wild place, LSF just wants to see chaos
Hoepfully they can manage to finally take the crown of my most downvoted comment lol, been waiting for years. My current reigning is some stupid Hearthstone comment from years ago.
It ain't worth trying to go against the tides in places like that. It's like attempting to clean up an ocean of piss with only a cup of bleach
Yeah and it's terrible for mental health.
As much as "touch grass" is used as an insult, it's really apt in times like these. When they inane are screaming from ignorance, it's much better to just take my shoes off, and actually walk in the yard. It makes them all seem so small against the backdrop of actual real life.
Kinda cold outside right now, though
Don't visit LSF, go tothe meme reddits, much better. Like (https://www.reddit.com/r/HighQualityGifs/)
Yeah, crunchy snow on the ground, and muddy grass in the melted spots.


