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Im guessing he is never going to play DRG?
Unlikely.. but hey, at least there's a bunch of good games coming out so there's a good small light of hope amidst all this crap
I know he mentioned something about having to get something set back up for Deep Rock, but I don't know what he was talking about
I got the idea he was planning on it in the coming weeks, not days
Hopefully Thor plays it when Season 5 comes out
Just a lot of things on his plate right now
someone knows how to send tts messages ? or where I can find this info ?
!tts
You can have Text To Speech for any bit donation 500 or higher. TTS questions are answered and timestamped in Discord in the answered-tts channel. If the queue is too large and your message isn't read by the end of the stream it will become Debt on the Debt-Tracker channel in Discord. Thor pays his debts to charity when that value hits $7,777 or more.
thx
The que is important to remember. It'll likely be hours before it gets read, there are already 72 in que and he hasn't started yet
thanks for the reminder. But its not urgent so I'm ok with waiting (even a long time)
I always feel bad when the duplicates come up, or people think their questions get eaten by tts
Deep dish pizza from Chicago is lasagna.
Big Mac is a lasagna
Shit, the Double Whopper I had last night should be classified as Lasagna. They decided to put like 4-5 pieces of meat on it.

lloyd frontera has amazing faces
This cursed quest thing - do we ever see the results? Are they posted somewhere?
Only if the creator chooses to share them, so no central location
Ah, that's a shame. Love Pirogi and would love to see the result. Would like to see them all as they're creative and fun.
this was my one
god I laugh so much with this mf's faces
Bro wtf? That's heinous. I've worked several personal homes as job sites and I'd never dream of seeing that kind of behavior. Chicken wings and gum wrappers all over the yard??
At least the HVAC crew were legit goblins
I miss that part again, beside gum wrapper and eating nuggets heated in a microwave, is there anything else?
Trashed his yard
Bringing a microwave for a job that's only a few days is wild on its own
Little Nemo is free on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRs4Y3Kzdt0 You're welcome, chat.
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Sadly it is geolocked for me.
Yeah, kids today won't know about "Uncle Ben's", they changed it to "Ben's Rice"
Now Thor really needs to see the 2nd Spiderverse movie LOL
Has anyone noticed how Pally announcement sounds like German accent? 😄
Maybe it's just my ears, but it sounds like the voice says it with German accent 😄
Indian accent
huh. Interesting
Now there's gonna be so many memes with Uncle Ben's rice 
Jesus
Thank the fuckin' lord he's been gone though.
Oh no.. EA is doing something stupid.. I am disheartened /s
How could a multi billion dollar company do this to us /s
Maybe my bubble of praising Monolith soft and small indie studios is helpful after all bcz man..
So my message, which I just copied from HoZy in chat
The lead of Tango Games, Shinji Mikami left a year ago and made their own studio (Kamuy Inc.) a month ago and hired on a lot of the old team.
Oh noice, maybe there's still hope Hi Fi rush 2
Or maybe a rename for it
Lo Fi Stroll?
wont be the same
I'm not surprised..
True
I would imagine in a weird twist the one lo fi study radio would have the funds to sue them.
That one. ^
I heard boomer screenshot
If someone goes to GoG with a phillipines IP, does it show it can be activated on the right?https://www.greenmangaming.com/games/ghost-of-tsushima-directors-cut-pc/
Or someone within a restricted region that cannot buy HD2
From baltic states, can't use VPN to check atm
Is baltic states somewhere that can't buy HD2?
surprisingly GMG has helldivers 2 shown. But yes baltic states don't have PSN listed as country
doesn't show ghost of tsushima in search
gmg just took precautions
also not available in SEA
yeah, GMG probably just took precautions but for single player game it's weird.
Though platforms can do whatever, I doubt sony as publisher did this
well, until GoT is released and sony pulls out similar bullshet, i can understand why
funny enough you cant make a psn account in baltic states but hd2 was never delisted, but steam did give refunds because of the sony bs
@viscid kraken Can you make Thor aware of this please - He wanted the evidence of the restrictions of Ghosts of Tsushima.
we did
That is just GMG restriction. That isn't global.
But the game isn't officially out on Steam yet
It's more Thor asked for proof that it's happening, and not a random screenshot of an email 🙂
This is mainly just GMG taking precautions in case Sony pulls the restriction crap again. They don't want to deal with refund fiasco like with Helldivers. However until the game is actually released, this is just GMG. No other platforms (in particular Steam which is the primary distribution platform) haven't delisted.
Steam aren't the ones that delist, it's the publisher
Steam just provide the platform
yes but prepurchases are available if they intended to delist the game they would do so now when its already purchasable
yeah but sony are clowns and its unclear why they didnt give back access in those countries
if they intended to do the same with tsushima
why not god of war?
why not last of us?
I suspect reverting country access takes time which is why the decision to revert the PSN could happen but the country restriction still hasn't been changed.
The country restriction requires them to actually make changes on the various platforms. The PSN requirement was just something they planned to enforce but haven't actually done anything to implement that yet.
Haven't been on the publishing side of things so I don't know the exact process for making those changes or how long they take.
It can be done immediately
Thor said it's super easy.
It's just a Change commit
Then Sony just scum.
weirdly sony has been doing business in gaming since... a while now.
Email to Valve, it's reversed in 24 hours
Get the feeling we kind of have a Hydra situation with Sony. Bunch of heads making decisions and not communicating with one another which is why we keep getting these knee jerk responses and sudden flip flops.
if they did it once a year id agree but since clown sony just does it based on lunar phases maybe valve are wary because they dont want the same sht to happen 3 days later
sonny sipped stupid juice and are the only ones that dont care about this, so its just annoying
Keep in mind they just updated that they wont release Ghost of Tsushima in those 177 regions
did they?
i.e. they region-locked Ghost of Tsushima and refunded the one sthat prepurchased i nthose regions
Who did? Sony?
Yes Sony
Proof?
Only evidence we have of that is GMG
GMG?
Green Man Gaming
one moment, I'll see if I can find it again
agreed.
if GMG have announced this on their socials, provide the evidence, and we'll pass to Thor
We have screenshots of emails from GMG purchases and GMG's site has the restrictions. But there is nothing official and these restrictions are only present on GMG and nowhere else.
But SteamDB hasn't got the restrictions
it came to me in a dream
So, it may be another HD2 situation, where they force a PSN account 3 months into it, or restrict again
Isn't GreenManGaming just one of those shady af key resellers? Like g2a etc? Why should we care about them
Not a key reseller
no
An actual game seller
do a modicum of research.
I have. They resell Steam keys.
I didn't see this, but yeah sure. I stole it from Facebook many moons ago anyway 😆
I can literally see that on their frontpage.
Ah you're right, yeah greenmangaming is the source. Thanks for correcting me @azure warren
"Every key we sell comes directly from game publishers, meaning when you purchase from us you know you aren’t getting a key from a dodgy source."
lmao
not "shady af keyseller"
What a claim
So they aren't key resellers
i bet you also believe sony when they said they'll change :)
you saying a multi billion dollar company would lie?
D:
only for a good reason
I mean, game keys from devs/publishers are made for a platform. But key resellers would acquire it from the platform and then resell it on their site. GMG is getting the key from the pub/dev directly instead of the platform.
i also didnt get how sony didnt hit the baltic states
it apearss that GMG is pre-emtivelly refunding GoT in regions that don't have PSN access presuuambly becausse GMG is getting cold feet over the thought of the theoretical billl they'd be eating if GoT player pulled a HD2 over the PSN requirement post launsh. it's technically easier to refund before the releases becccause then they are actually stillll holding the money
And this would make sense, especially after the stunt they pulled
Yeah since the only evidence we're seeing is exclusively related to GMG, its just them covering their own ass.
Easier to deal with the situation early instead of having to deal with it later.
Now if we start seeing similar refund receipts coming from Steam and EGS. That is another story.
this is pure speculation I am a random person on the internet with no connections to any buiseness
I mean GMG was part of the grey market, they used to have authorised keys and unauthroised keys, i.e. they'd randomly refuse to disclose wh othe source of the key was back in teh day
you mean GMG?
Just in general.
GreyMarketGaming
I mean yeah some people get money through illicit means and then start doing legal business xD
like key resellers that scam devs
We ask companies to be truthful about whether or not we can play their games.
mostly talking about baltics not being part of the 177 country list
The only good so far is that we have a proven situation of being able to make our voices heard and have action taken.
Everything that happened still damaged Sony, it's just they had reduced damage due to the tweet-card
Y’all are between a rock and a hard wet place
Then Sony found a way to have their cake and eat it too
Don't judge the saucepan hot-tub I'm currently sat in
In this situation, they did not increase their PSN count yet, they reduced the amount of sales they'd generate in this game, they reduced the popularity of this IP, they also reduced the likelihood of this tactic working in the future, and they took a hit to their stock price
like they have received no tangible benefit except a temporary damage reduction
A frying pan, compared to the fire the Baltics are in
There have still been refunds issued by steam and the score of the game is still lower than before
Nah, Saucepan is where it's at, can lean back and relax. A frying pan, you just fall out
I mean, Sony is doing a big dumb move. Expanding their games to PC is a smart decision. There is another audience there.
However...the only thing they are doing it is giving another platform to acquire the game. The market of people did not increase.
They moved the base line of customers. But the end limit of customers did not increase.
idk whatchu mean i go to sleep not knowing if i will see mushroom clouds in the sky in the morning or not
As long as you have an objective temperature measurement, I have heard bad things happen to frogs in your situation
I'm an egg, I'll only get hard

(I didn't make it weird, you did that)
that just means you become more edible
i.e. a future target xD
Hey! You're not allowed to eat me, you've got to take me on a date first, them's the rules
(Yes, I have that as a shortcut on mobile) lmao
A date to the Waffle House.
Lord have mercy. I was born just too late to experience Cold War I
i always loved iron curtains
they keep in the heat
and hopfully too soon for Cold War II
For some people, the first one didn’t end
perhaps. For me it ended.
Man I love Henry
We all love Henry
Henry is the RISC-V of the ferrert world
Still cant believe with henry. More love to him
40% brain, 100% zoom
nascar henry, cartoon wen
Crazy how living beings can adept to such situations
damn, now i want the lore breakdown on the dude that got banned that Thor is talking about.
i'm constantly surprised how many people are hanging in voice chats.
i never grew up with voice chats, so i uhh, dont do anything but smaller calls with friends.
if there was a event like movie night or something i'd join but yeah, random VC isn't my vibe either
social anxiety gang yipeee
it was 1300 while back
80085 though
and it's like... i'm already hanging in text? i'm doing stuff at the sametime, if i'm on voice, i cant listen to music and watch thor at the sametime
ohhh lmao
that sounds like an endorsement honestly lmao
Well, a couple of peeps joined and just conversed using memes only
sounds par for the course
Thanks moderators! <3
My anxiety would kill me so i decide not to join
I mean, I get it. It's like a shorthand when you don't know anyone. But damn.

you're still a valuable human!
mods are awesome
Mods are awesome but still stinky 
Just keep throwing food down into their dungeon.
Don't let Thor see you do that
they get to _smell the bread
We need the bread smugglers
hey mods, what kinda bread is your fave? I'm a big fan of Rye, but you could absolute see me doing some nasty shit for some sour dough
Bread train!
give more bred
We see you all in here, feeding the mods.
I´m going now and buy more bred for the mods 🙂
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very commonly used to make WoW add ons
Oh damn, you could totally make a Hades 2 Randomizer with access like this
I'm trying to understand what (if any) downsides there are to this?
Oh god, Thor has re-discovered modding
this is amazing
https://www.pcgamesn.com/helldivers-2/delisted a more recent relevant article on the delisting of HD2
"i need comic sans"
Did Thor say he needed comic sans?
in .xnb file format
very funny
I have everything in comic sans and I forget about sometimes
well, if you know of a safe source for the font file, in .xnb format, thor is looking for that file.
Tired: Comic Sans
Wired: Open Dyslexic
he's done it 
Beeg
Modder comment.// Changed all occurrences of the word "Hades" to "The Rizzler" and changed the font to ComicSans.
Now make all of the text RGB
Due to community request changed the all ingame text colours to be a random RGB value. Also changed the font size to be x4 bigger than original.
Perfect
No U
Thor what have you unleashed
Will we ever get the bit goal back to zero
what even is the bit goal at this point?
it seems more meme than raw data at this point but i duno
YOOOOOOO
Is this how skynut starts?
next event or update title: "In Sky we Nut"
no
you stop that
where do you think it will fall
if not on your own face
What did I just read

welcome to discord ... ?
welcome 🎉
Lol
you browse discord server based on the assumption "normal" users use this platform ?
brace yourself, this is heavy moderated and its still sometimes unhinged
as you witnessed
only enter #thorchan if you're mentally read to sustain the hit
some servers are more "normal" than whatever i just read
oh that was elementary school student stuff
no access for me
its a pit

whats in the pit?
I already said too much
the pit dwellers gonna get you now?
What is the game called he's playing?
This game looks like the crappy cybersecurity refresh training sessions the gov't makes LOL
Hahahahaha fair, but you'll probably learn more from this lol
The dangers of password reuse lol
goddam
Cyber Manhunt: New World
Isn’t it the sequel?
Thank you!
idk it says that on my twitch page
let me refresh
Cyber Manhunt 2, stand corrected. Perhaps there is no Cyber manhunt 2 tag on twitch?
The tag category has a typo? The screenshot says “2”….
or its missing
Is there a sponsored link for the game?
I'd like to buy it, and I'd like to use a sponsored link if available
I can't type in chat because I'm on mobile and don't have the twitch app installed
This game gave his brain a gasket leak YIKES
i think someone made a typo in the category name on twitch
Did he get a nosebleed on stream? I just tuned in to see him with a tissue up his nose lmao
I'm FLABBERGASTED
Mods beat thor up and now he has a bloody nose 
He wanted to get water, and the exact moment he stood up his nose decided... Lets bleed for funzies.
ye
They got too much bread and it went to their heads
The classic, love getting jumpscared by my own nose
Augh this is a modern horror game. I don’t like it 😔
Fixed the tissue with an edit, now its the moustache he's always wanted!
What game is he playing?
Cyber Manhunt 2!
Cool
🍿
Anyone know if there was an affiliate link for this game?
^^
This game reminds me of a really old game 🤔 But i dont remember it
I feel like affiliate links would be announced in the “news” or “sponsored” channels. Maybe a Twitter post, but also maybe not
I’m not seeing anything, so maybe there isn’t one. But I could be wrong
Yea I didn't see any there, I just wanted to check in case there was
These games look fun as hell
A little more approachable than the other hacking games I've seen him play
bezos getting in the way of my stories 
i'm loving this game so far
More power to ya. This game is too horrific for me
Cyber Manhunt 2: New World is the gripping sequel to the award-winning Cyber Manhunt. Set in a world echoing the predecessor's, this sequel brings players on a fresh, thrilling narrative that delves into profound real-world issues and challenges.Story BackgroundIn the wake of the "Eternal Code" incident and hacker Van's disappearance, the world ...
$8.99
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"itch is good if you want to make a pretty storefront, steam is better if you'd like to actually sell your game" 😂
Oh, the URL doesn’t have the 2
its in the pinned comment on twitch now
I wonder if Twitch scrapes the category names from the Steam URLs
It might indirectly? Twitch sources category names from games listed on IGDB, but idk if that has some scraper attached to it
I had to enter a few (unpopular) releases that were on Steam into the thing manually so I guess maybe not?
This game looks very interesting, I wonder if thor will play the first game
Does that not show on mobile? I don't use twitch, so I'm not sure why I'm not seeing it
Oh I see what he missed.
With the whole secret chat room. The mystery person in the email who tells the sister about it says to login to their account.
This game is a lesson in never sharing passwords
Well you never should do that to begin with. Even to your friends or family
You can take the tiniest bit of info and go off
"Iris"... "BornToBloom" too obvious LUL
uhhhh
This game is crazy holy hell
It's so weird to me that Iris still doesn't have a portrait.
Feels really uncanny, my theory is that she might come back in later chapters
or just we are missing from thomas 2nd acc
This game is horrifying. But we can learn why not to use one password for every website
yeah......
And also not to bully people
its funny to me because thsi plays like an actual crime novel, with a paint of game
"being the AI" its just playing the detective lol
i think i will wacht some two and a haft men after this stream
isnt the siste riris nolt claudia
It's the visual novel appeal
What game is this? Looks cool
Iris is Thomas' sister. Claudia was the girl that was bullying Iris and was having an affair with Singh, among others.
LOL thor jumped ahead, thats why iris still did not have a profile pic
Leave it to Thor to sequence break a visual novel LUL
The plot plan for this game must look like a spider web of red thread and pins lol
thor keeps saying claudia qwas sister
Reminds me of how in a mod of Starsector you can build a supercomputer that produces new AI cores, and the despription says that the AIs were trained in so many layers of simulation, that their tenuous loyalty is only guaranted by them being unsure whether they're still in a Sim when you're using them, and they fear deletion.
i got an itch i had to scratch
@minor nymph check the girl that Jessie was talking to, the one girl that Jessie said "you sound like a robot sometimes"
omg I hope he sees this
pretty sure that girl is a self aware Ai that created the account "Daniel Kos"
"i'm just like you, forgotten about by Titan"
tor is playing "boeing employee simulator"?
it's pretty good
was watching Wirtual the trackmania player and streamer and he has this many falls on the deep dip challenge
The creepy music continues
The. same. song. for. hours. They had no music budget I guess.
I heard he reached the half way point?
man, i want to try vegimite now to see what's the buzz
you're eating yeast basically
if the thought of it doesnt repulse you, give it a try
i mean, i already eat bread
yea, same
yeast is bread
I imagine that vegemite tastes like the bouillon paste that I can get instead of the dried cubes
dude, it can't be worse than beer
ah
beer sucks
idk what vegimite is, I just know yeast is bread, and beer
but.... beer taste gross, hard liquor taste better to me
Aw cmon, nothing on Eson Mulk
because his only real job is poopposting on the internet
Oh, right

Phew; now I can go back to work
Thortana the cliffhanger
I was literally fascinated
oh
BRAZIL MENTIONED
Bro, QA never dies, haha
Live Hades 2 code debuging
Thor, don't gamedev everything
rofl
Should change Hades' name to Haydeez
Hadeez nuts
it's Hadeez deez nuts XD
Oh, I was thinking more along the lines of Haydeez Delightful Cookies, but that works too
https://interestingengineering.com/science/brain-map-1400-tb-harvard @minor nymph The talk about Henry earlier today reminded me about this when I woke up this morning.
they just added more?
LMAO
yeah ...
Damn they added the Baltics
The EU would like your location
AH SHIT THEY GOT ME
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
welp
time to refund i guess
ffs
See how easy it is to make changes folks? AND they did it on a Friday afternoon OMEGALUL
Holup, they made it worse
i "blame" thor for making those countries get ban from helldivers, sony probably saw the post and forgot those countries 
look at the bright side
you will be able to request a refund
if you're talking about HD 2
YOU CANT USE/PLAY THE GAME LMAO
this crapshow just knows no precedents
thats the worst part about it
they scammed you, my dude
yeah no sht
doesnt mean i want to do it
i have to
but i dont want to
we're on the same side on this
i dont own HD 2
because its sony
from the beginning
WTF is Sony doing
Oh no, I gotta get on stream.
Hello EU single digital market rules!
shooting a shotgun to their leg
i'm assuming
from this point going forward
they will backtrack this change to every shit they made on Steam
some people happy that now they can just sail the high seas i guess???
lets find out shall we
That's some quick popcorn! 😂
NOICE

They will drop hillarious low in the next few days OR hours
Quite literally another friday, another sudo -rm -rf move from Sony
I hope Sony likes nuts for dinner
Not with the fanbois out there. They called "major order complete" and reverted their reviews the second the Sony post came out.
I hope the reviews drop now and those people are not having the horse shades on
Can't wait for EU to pound some sense into Sony like they did with Valve - single market rules were enforced in the past, will be enforced again
And hopefully fallout result into global reduction of such exclusivity...
Welp proof in the pudding
Sony tweet was empty and just damage control
hell it worked... now too many people reversed their reviews
now i need to fight steam support
for the refunds
great
Sony had only one job, man
i love how people on twitter are like "ye man dont make assumptions about what sony is doing"
on HD2 - Commercial Edition - Japan is also there 😄
japan has its own version
The goblins to Sony.
I mean we know the what, we probably don't know the why though.
what i said was "it doesn't look like they're actually reversing the bans because this shit takes an hour to change, and it's been 6 days" 😂
Yea @wispy swallow I get ya
yeah now i will never play Ghost of Tsushima DIRECTOR'S CUT, or any sony game
The thing is. Sony doesnt care. There is still enough people out there who buy sony stuff.
yeah, exactly
I feel like a lot of people are skirting around "I don't care about this and neither should you" and just trying to come up with some vague other reason instead of just saying it.
when you vote with your wallet, if you have more wallet, you have more votes
yeah but thay may havve mosly luse all of pc
This goes against fiduciary duty, too.
Sony.
The sony defender always say "It was stated on the steam page from day one". That is ALL of it. Nothing else. But all the other evidence is just mindblowing overwehlming now
Rather having thor sitting there than asmongold (Personal preference please dont hate me)
besice hd2 Ghost of Tsushima woud also make lot on steam
Not even the EULA mentioned PSN, rofl
I know but people still using this argument. Logic breaks simple minded people nowadays
Ok at this point we can stipulate that but we would also like to bring before the court that the devs for the game we're also telling Sony this was a bad idea from the very beginning and instead of listening to the people who helped write the game create the game and did everything for the game also needed was put it out there that's it. I work in restaurants and this is like a restaurant owner who doesn't know how to cook or how to serve or do anything else. And at this point even they walked everything back right now. Half of the 57,000 people who would never use Sony products again and half of that would not only never use some products again they would tell anyone who would listen not to use Sony products again.
what value 😂
10% of the company's value evaporated this year
their TOS specifically mentioned that PC versions of the games would not require it
then changed it and added "some"
100% true. I dont recommend certain developer or publisher myself to friends. I never supported those big companys anyway.
about this, last time i checked on december 2023, that requirement was there
hey, that's my meme 
and the game wasnt released yet
Taking a dump on their fiduciary duty too
Nintendo/Pokemon Company gets competition 
game did but their TOS said it wasnt required and you could skip the PSN login with no info provided that it would be mandatory later on
wait what? 😂
tryna debate this one guy abt the psn thing and my brain is melting help
Did Sony just employed Bobby Kotick and I missed that?
Snoy is alergic to money
Tell them that
Go into horni corner
These are the dudes who brought us the PS2 this is wild
"if theyre unable to make an acc to play the game then its pretty much useless to buy them no?" (quote from said guy)
i just like women man
Maybe Sony just figures they can wait out the shitstorn and then later make PSN happen? Still, there were so many better ways to go about this
But why is the account necessary
100%
sony
sony being sony
Yeah....
i was talking this with a coworker actually, like, the only thing sony learn from this, is that next game is gonna ask for psn day one
PEDs LOL
That dude has the most souless look I've ever seen.
nah he has a soul
not his
but he has one
I'm literally dumbfounded here
That was the plan with Helldivers. But apparently the linking system broke on launch day.
You know it's bad when he's close to being in favor of piracy

Thor experiencing righteous indignation is everything
"Pirate" Software? HELLO?? 😉
Bruh
Why
That's f'd up
Ok they going through all the games
Does it even have multiplayer?
I'm definitely not going to pirate every sony game from now on
they did it last month :o
What do they have against spanish? Yeesh
let the wargames beginn LUL
they are asking to get pirated
like
some people are willing to pay
for good products
but they have to mess it up so bad that
piracy becomes more convinient
latam been doing that since ps2
and still does, look at brazil
That was last month though. And there aren't nearly as many countries
Let them burn 
Just the spanish speaking world
also one thing tht ppl might not be familiar with
males sense
Wait, I just tuned into the stream, what happened with SONY again?
playstation is available for selling in countries where you cannot create PSN account
so you are forced to risk a ban by creating it in another account
if you want to ever purchase anything digitally
WTF is happing..
They were visited by the deity Ishid Anfarded
and even then, you cannot add credit cards and you have to use gift cards from other countries to add funds
probably not gonna get banned but sure as hell won't get support
sony went nuts. HD2 got restricted in Balticsm, Ghost of Tshushima got steam banned in every non-PSN country
ghost of tsuhima got helldived, helldivers 2 added extra countries, more sony games are getting helldived
I think they let you make a psn IF and only IF you have a console in some regions. Which is just wow... basically not free accounts.
Bro WHAT
Wonder if Destiny 2 will require PSN now that SNOY owns them too 😥
yes. they let you and i have not seen anyone be banned in my country because we have different country selected
but still
risk is there
matter of time
they can literally say tomorrow "oh screw you"
and you can't "blame" them
"its in their TOS" they'll say
If people let them get away with this, its likely going to happen with their entire ecosystem
no man its related to the entire Game, am i reading this wrong ?
Walled gardens are all the rage. Sweet delicious data 
help me understand it
its from here https://steamdb.info/changelist/19436398/
Please don't helldive my game SNOY
sony is asking to get helldived 
it say restsing on top
"Breaking news: Sony decides to heckdive their business into the basket"
Nintendo knows how to read the room
Sony (derrogatory)
that's not the permalink, this is: https://steamdb.info/sub/901610/history/?changeid=19436398
what does it mean "restsing" @shell heron
Does anyone know why some people are saying it was Valve who delisted these games and not Sony?
Idiocracy
I guess
Sony tells Valve "hey, we don't want this game to be sold in these countries." Valve goes "ok"
Is there any proof who it is? Just so I can send the proof for people that say "it wasn't Sony it was Valve" when we talk about this
sorry my spelling
this is truly the downfall of the triple-a scene
PSN is for everyone, regardless of, gender identity, sexual orientation, race, ethnicity, NATIONALITY, color, immigration status, social and economic class, educational level, shape and size, family status, political belief, religion, and mental and physical ability, or any other attribute that people use to label others or divide communities.- Sony Terms of Service
aight, lets start from the beginning. Steam will sell the game evrywhere unless you tell it explicity where.
HD 2 launched globally until Sony decided the requirement were permanent. and then the shit unfolded how you saw
I would love to see what other company's like Nintendo and Xbox think about all this. I know for years Nintendo held off on paid DLC and paid online services and all the other stuff that's standard. It's gonna a be a interesting year for gamers that's for sure. I really can't wait to what Nintendo will do with the 2nd switch because you know it's gonna be good when they say " we have news coming out but it's not about the new switch just yet. See you in 2025 or sooner "
lmao
I came back to the stream a minute before he said he was going to write a post about this... and it's kinda mind-blowing that Sony would be so stupid.
they go against their own terms!
they forgot to say "only in the US though, other can go to ass"
The publisher is the one who makes those choices. Steam could technically change that whenever they wanted, but that isn't within their agreements with publishers who use their platform.
I mourn the games I'll never play because I will never buy a sony related product again. Trust is hard earned and easily destroyed.
Sony PSN can help me pay rent right. I get a cosmetic from Sony to put in my apartment?
Also I'm pretty sure it's illegal to sell product (in this case game) in one EU country and restrict in others, just saying 😅
Doesn't stop them
there are SOME laws applied to all of EU
its not
yet some nation may apply some laws other nations do not
and then rug pull
and then restricting it and delisting it
i cant belive it
And all I wanted was Thor to read about the brain scans cause of Henry.
democracy doesn't matter if money can back it up
This will 100% end in a class action now
I thought the post looked better originally, at least on mobile
Nah. They sold folks an amusement ride. It's called the "Rugpull Ravine"
Thank you for answer ❤️

Henry performs real necromancy for himself. By all rights he should not be alive. Every veterinarian that's new to the position will be reading about Henry in books for years and years. I really hope they picked Thor in the banana suit to put as his owner.
mods need to add the latvia flag to reactions
It's way worse.
That was so cool that he is doing that.
You need Victor von Doom as your ultimate leader right now.
OOF
I was completely shocked about Henry being able to function, as much as the man that had most of his brain voided as well.

Big STANKS
I really want to get Ghosts of Tsushima... but I also really don't want to support Sony anymore.
yarrr
nintendo just does that because of IP issues, i can't blame nintendo for doing that, i hate they do it tho
Remember the last time for this mad he created an entire area of twitch called game development then before that he created an entire new section of area at blizzard... He's changed the way things work... Now let's see how this goes
YO HO, YO HO, A PIRATE LIFE FOR ME
NOT DA POPE
same dude ive been waiting over a year for pc release
Pope got banned
Pirate publishing!
PP
no more holydiver 
BIG PP
DIPSHITMAXXING 
Long live PP
DIPCRAPMAXXING 🦾
They can have real tournaments for it. For years they did the same thing to Pokemon and guess what happens at Pokemon now . VGC tournaments and go and everything else
Irony is EU law forbids the Baltic nations from being excluded.
LOL?
so in a year we may get EU drop on them:d
yes, because pokemon is ONE whole IP, smash has LOTS of ips
I've worked firsthand with Nintendo. They could do it if they really wanted too.
At least Nintendo is consistent with its nonesense
i believe you with that, after all, they manage to take goldeneye out of dev hell, but i also believe they aren't allowing it for a reason
Facts.
do i like it? no
Nintendo has one rule. And they stick to it
funniest thing I've seen today
EU getting involved would be insane lol
removed japan, oops, readds japan
Their number one rule is being petty.
I thought Japan has their own client right?
I dont know how they do it for Japan though.
they do, but they accidentally helldived japan out of both versions and readded it when noticed mistake
this just has me disappointed in Sony :\ actually mad at the bs they are pulling
doubling and tripling down on bad moves
"we are still learning how to do this pc gaming thing hahahaha" helldives ALL THEIR GAMES
sony
"were still figuring out how to optimally screw over PC players"
It's a shame. PS1 was basically born out of Nintendo screwing them over, and now SNOY has in fact become the villain
Hell divers responds saying " at midnight we dive on Sony with the bugs and the bots as our backups"
when you make nintendo look good... you kind of screw it up badly
#1 lesson learned, Screw publishers. #2 Do not lose control of your IP
this situation kinda reminded me of this part of yugioh abridged
16 seconds · Clipped by StereoBucket · Original video "YGOTAS Episode 51 - The Death Of Tristan Taylor - LittleKuriboh" by Little Kuriboh
lmao

steam declining the refund requests
you knw in the TOS you caant class action right?
;-;
In EU countries where this is being restricted?
yes
TOS isn't super legally binding....
Sony are breaking current EU LAWS
sony tos demands individual arbitration
try again, or try contacting steam customer support? like... a human
is arbitration even enforcable outside of US?
Fk arbitration.... This has gone past arbitration
No it's not
That's a US based thing
they can demand all they want, doesn't matter
im trying but it gets auto cancelled
Arbitration is the worst thing ever
refund requests auto-defaults to check and response. Go to steam support -> purchases -> game -> I have a question about this purchase
Don't do "I want a refund" do the "contact us about the game"
this has to end iin a shit show for sony
i wonder how Sony ToS would work in a restricted country where someone hasn't ever signed up for a sony service though, i dont think that'd apply? unless its included in the purchase but i somehow doubt that.
what?
"The European Union's Digital Single Market rules require that everyone who lives in the EU should be able shop around and buy things from all other EU countries."
both sony and steam are violating eu law
ahh ok TY
technically their platform does allow for restricting specific EU countries, which does mean they are enabling this behaviour even if its the developer actually applying the setting.
If valve wants to be protected from this they might need to just make sure you cant ban any individual eu countries unless you remove all of them.
I do like me some sources
if they don't remove it from everu eu country
can i get a TLDR?
you either sell in the entire EU or not at all.
100% they'll never do this, but I'd start laughing like crazy if sony removed every EU country just to avoid the law 
The publishers requested Valve to set up geographical restrictions and to provide geo-blocked Steam activation keys. The publishers provided those keys to their distributors for sale and distribution of the PC video games in the Member States concerned. As a result, users located outside a designated Member State were prevented from activating a given PC video game with Steam activation keys.

from said website
Bet 
99% theyll never do it
yes, i get that part so far, what's the part that violates EU?
"The European Union's Digital Single Market rules require that everyone who lives in the EU should be able shop around and buy things from all other EU countries."
ooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
yeah.... sony is breaking EU law
if you buy a key on a site that operates in EU that key must work in every EU country
lol some chatter went "do i need psn for aoc" 
some dude from lithuania should be able to buy a steam key from germany and then be able to play the game.
it's going to turn into meme
truee
man, i can't wait for AoC
sadge
ty well time to wait and cope ;-;
EvE lost me after a few months because I'm not a pvper and high sec was boring af
i easily lose interest in those kind of games but hopefully launch goes well fr
For those wondering or argueing about EU. It basically goes like like this:
"If one EU member nation provides a service, all other member nations can never under any circumstances be blocked or rejected from using it."
However, there is a nuance, for example My country is blocked by itself from many gacha games, however If i register to lets say the German website or client of that game. They cannot ban or refuse me.
the only mmo I have interest in anymore is Star Citizen and that's coming along real nice now that squadron 42 is in polishing
in this case you may need a seperate account (at least from steam you need an account in a non restricted country), but this works, Lost Ark had that issue, but if you made a steam account in another country you could then buy the game, funnily enough you could actually just gift it back to your regular steam account that has a purchase restriction and play just fine.
after learning about the corruption system i knew i wanted to be a bounty hunter
except that
sony can ban you if you make an account in a different country than you live
so thats not really an option
"AoC been fomo" was the funniest statement lmao
life is fomo, i am here instead of watching something else, i am missing all the content in life
i can't contentmaxxing life
What’s this for?
If you’re registering PSN, yes, if you are buying through steam i dont think they’re allowed to verify, i dont think steam is even allowed to transmit any user data as you just purchase the license from steam not sony directly
Afaik anyways (obligatory not a lawyer)
yeah but this entire sht is because sony wants to force people to use psn
game got removed from the same regions
psn isnt available
Nah, didn't work. He thought maybe he didn't get the right modifier
Its was under the restricted states by hd2
when sony demands a psn account to play the game you would be in breach
same on steam. i remember a lot of classmates where like "i set my region to russia to buy the games for a lot less money". Most of them get a ban because faking your region is against tos.
yeah they do
I remember when I found the control console in Morrowind, I set my jump so high it crashed the game
I mean yeah, theres a decently high likelyhood they’ll try and sneak psn required back in there in a while when shit dies down.
Launched right into the skybox
time to reviewbomb again
hope they helldive their entire stock
for ghost of tushima it will be reqiured from day 1. even though it is a single player game
Unfortunately sony is so large that even if their gaming division completely tanks it probably doesnt hurt them too much. Look at microsoft basically killing off studios right after purchase as they arent able to turn profits
They offer multiplayer features and don't want to block people from half of the game.... still really stupid
All the goblins today!!
i mean their shares already tanked byt 9$ per share
so
its impacting them enough
also while sure gaming division isnt as big
share holders are fickle
if they are being this stupid with games
what kind of other bs will they pull with their other departments?
It shows incomptency which shareholders don't like
ive seen less impactful shit criple share prices
this is just being stupid from sony
yeah this is some serioussly impresssive amount of bad decisionmaking with potential of actually angering EU legal protections, it is deeply concerning for pretty much anyone with money on the line
Sounds like the timing will be perfect for Destiny 2 slowing down, hope there is room in the AoC clan for Guardians
me when i enter AoC
I do want to try this game but i do feel im not going to like it due to the pvp
Same
I'm not into the lost of xp for me is harsh with how much time i have. I see thr fun but it would make me put it up
yup. that's a major issue. With something like SC, non pvp folk like me can still participate in pvp as engineers or medics or what have you while the people who love pvp fly the ship and murder things. the big equalizer is people's amount of time to play.
More i see this game it's more for hardcore mmo players, and that is great. But im casual sadly i see myself more of a hinder to any guild i join
yeah it's a niche
That said i hope the game kicks ass. We need better mmos in the world
agreed. I hope it does well
All that said i still want to try not having to buy the game and just the sub makes it hard not to atleast try it
Ah, seems like GMG was right about the ghost of tsushima thing
The space weather prediction center had to delay website maintenance due to the geomagnetic storm
They also have the best site name spaceweather.gov
Say is there a way to get a YT mod on the stream? We do have 1 or 2 presistent tolls there
Seams to have been taken care off!
You can ignore Playstation/Sony games on their page
I guess getting Forbidden West "not on steam" doesnt make me feel as bad anymore 
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I just found this on the HD2 Discord:
Pilestedt's (arrowhead ceo) messages from today in helldivers discord
great minds think alike lol
We are both either geniuses or both of our neurons came together finally
oh god this is the worst. watching your game fall even deeper and not being able to do anything because its the weekend
I still can't believe the triple down. Even if they did nothing things could not have been worse
imean they can't really do anything about this whole situation anyway 🤷♂️
anyone know how to do the tts in twitch chat?
You can have Text To Speech for any bit donation 500 or higher. TTS questions are answered and timestamped in Discord in the answered-tts channel. If the queue is too large and your message isn't read by the end of the stream it will become Debt on the Debt-Tracker channel in Discord. Thor pays his debts to charity when that value hits $7,777 or more.
is it a command?
I'd recommend waiting till next stream. This is almost over and there is a massive que still
^
unless you want your money to go to charity
gotchya. and is it just cheer500?
So basically Sony was like "its a bank holiday there, so lets do it quick before they notice"
Only to proceed to look into the discord during his poop zen moment on the porcelain bowl and find out.
https://twitter.com/everything_now_/status/1789000988063678579 In-case anyone is interested
Protecting against "man-in-the-middle" seems like most of the work is done on the training and social engineering side
Twinbeard commented too but it's just the same really
Try hack me can get have a pay wall but I'm okay with doing stuff for an hour a day.
the ferret just lives because he despites death
Right?! CHOMP
Henry is just built different
What does the Ashes of Creation code thing do?
Almost at 0 debt!
I was only able to attend that part of the stream for a couple snippets of time because my laptop was going coocoo
for coco puffs?
https://twitter.com/tango_jpn/status/1763509029031084313 nothing like the president of xbox making a tweet on Tango celebrating 14 years of the studio, with here's to many more to closing them in the span of 2 months
that really sucks, poor devs
and then immediately claiming you need more of their work the day after shutting them down
anyone know if thor uploaded his save from cyber manhunt stream today wanna buy and play the game but dont want to redo that 4 hrs of contet
Does Thor know that Ukraine got added to the Psn Country list? Did this just happen?
wasnt it always?
I thought that’s what people were mad about and it’s not on any of the Steam Banned lists anymore guess
why does Sony feel the need to axe their first successful cross plat live service in anyway possible?
because they can
The list is easy enough to look up, it hasn't updated since the 3 added 4 hours ago
So…. Ukraine isn’t on the list?
wasn't one of the issues with Ukraine not that they didnt have access to PSN but that they were told to buy a PS5 to make a PSN account instead of online? I don't know if that was true, but that was the screenshot that was shared
iirc ukraine is one of those countries you need a ps to create your psn
Apparently you can also create accounts using the mobile PlayStation app
That's the workaround someone shared, again not sure of how true that is (or the limitation in the first place)
It is a work around, but if you think about it, its not much different to buying a ps5 - its still expecting you to have a secondary gadget to access the service and make an account on
Games can manage without that requirement, MMOs manage all the time
You could install the mobile app on a PC easily enough, but yes, this is Stupid
All of this is Stupid
Ok I had to buy the original cyber manhunt as well, it connects IT CONNECTS MY BRAIN HELP
My stories
whats going on?
i havent really been checking discord today
Sony added more countries to the banlist
apparently with no warning to the dev team
then they added all of that to GoT
basically the entire internet at sony rn
End of this month is going to be anything but quiet
oh yea i know about the added countries because i check twitter like twice a day
At least Steam is doing their part to do the right thing 👍
Oh man. If this happens for another of their games, they might actually cut ties with Sony.
The next time they talk, it's going to have a different tone for sure
Valve: you better make it clear right off the bat or we'll send you to Epic games.
Yeah, I had a few chats about Steam doing the region-locking, but it's just highly unlikely.
Region-locking is easy to change for publishers.
And lately Steam has had several of the pro-consumer moves. Sony has only done anti-consumer moves
cuz Steam is literally losing their cut and fees and whatnot from refunding
but at least they're doing it, perhaps not at the quickness / rate that people want, but from what I see it seems at least well-intentioned to try and amend the situation for consumers
especially given the situation is not created by them lmao
GMG delisted GoT a day ahead of Steam, and they deal directly with game keys from the publisher. Ghost of Tsushima was also delisted on Epic Game Store for the same regions. Sony appears to be the one pushing for the region-locks. 😦
indeed, it's only logical
the only reason why Steam would've done it before was when the announcemtn for PSN came and it meant those countries without PSN couldn't play the game. So it was a logical argument to think that Steam could've region-locked to prevent future refunds
but even if it was logical at the time, Sony's actions have made it clear that they are the most likely ones.
Oh no
Not epic games
It's a valid threat
I know
so what are the reasons a developer would region-lock a game?
Because they don't want to expend the effort in dealing with that region, or they don't want to translate into the local language, or they consider it not worth their time, or because they have prejudice against that area. There's multiple reasons.
But you see, Sony, to grab a quick and topical example, just wants to artificially inflate it's PSN customers.
By making the game only available in that area, they increase the Steam customer to PSN customer ratio artificially.
yeah, unfortunately reasons i could’ve guessed. which of course to me is hugely unfair but i’m also not a billion dollar corporation
ahhh, that blows
I suspect it's a numbers manipulation game. They're running a scam on the stockholders, I suspect.
By removing those regions, they decrease the number of Steam customers, but crucially, they don't impact the number of PSN customers.
Thus artificially increasing it's ratio, so they can then say 'The ratio of PSN customers has gone up!'
oh yeah that makes sense
I suspect that Executive bonuses are tied to that number, which is why they're so desperate to increase that number at all costs.


