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nah, I think Gila is fine for most but like the last 2 filaments
you can, but usually discord bans are final, and we dont really hand them out super lightly
only when several mods agree
of course certain circumstances would allow for an unban like, apologizing for getting a little too drunk or smth
that being said i see your account was made today
ban evading doesnt help your case
Too slow, no burst damage, bad EM resistance, bad capacitor, hull is expensive, you need mutated drones and still damage isn't good, drones can't overheat, no tech 2 resistance at all, fragile, easy die in marshal room
I am only trying to find out what I need to do? There are no other places with info
dming a mod about it is the appropriate thing to do
We didn't take them into later filaments
put in a mod ticket if you must but, be aware that if we dont want to unban you, we arnt going to
go ahead and explain in the ticket
And most of the filaments we used were custom picked ones that fit the ship, just like everyone else did
Can Gila do t4 in 9 munites? Nope
The same price cerberus can, cheaper vagadond can
Yeah, before he left we were talking about Cerb fits
I love the modern cerb
Unfortunately, after a lot of the game got ruined by too little too late, I may never know if my cerb fit would have worked
Chat pls
does he ever stream his D&D campaigns?
he's a troll and a goblin!
Man I wish Thor would stream more palworld today but I doubt that he would, most likely a normal stream today.
It is Thursday, there won't be any stream today
Yeah he doesn't stream on thursdays
Needs some time to get some actual work done since he can't on stream anymore with all the new goblins around
It is thorsday, not Thursday.
this one.
yo
Holy hell, I checked Palworlds Steam Forums to see what βbugsβ people were talking aboutβ¦the entire thing is just hot toxic garbage and ignorance. Itβs disgusting. I see why Thor said HBs forums werenβt heavily moderated. Why tf are people like this.
Steam Forums are some of the worst thing lol
Cool concept in theory, awful in practice, it's no wonder that all devs who care host their communities elsewhere (like discord)
You Goblins can we get the votes to 3K for this
https://twitch.uservoice.com/forums/928738-badges-emotes/suggestions/47568725-create-a-global-emote-called-goblins
This is to to commemorate PirateSoftware breaking the World Record Hype Train twice in one week. The community requested I put this up and I am not one to deny them.
The first one happened here at Level 55 + 179%:
https://twitter.com/PirateSoftware/status/1735036339022913567
The second one happened here at Level 55 + 512%:
https://twitter.com...
so close to 3K already
one more to 3k
Voted on my alt account so it's now at 3K
Guys - if I want to get started on Twitch emotes, preping for Affiliate, do I ask community to do it or do I hire someone on Fiverr? What would you recommend to me?
The thing is I have a relatively small budget, and graphics can be quite expensive to come by.
Crime is always an option
Community might do it for free (and completely within legal boundaries, mind you - I want to stay in that), but results may vary. Hiring someone on Fiverr is a relatively bigger reliability of quality assurance, but I fear my budget won't cut it.
Hm, I think you can find a good designer for it in gamejam section, I see a lot of good artists
It's not for a game tho, it's for my Twitch channel.
I mean, you might be right, but my question might be removed for being off topic.
Yes, I understand, ask anyway.
this is a question for mods
You can use the #advertising channel for these kinds of requests
Alright. Thanks for answers.
Does anyone know if Thor has talked about how to claculate your games Kickstarter campaign?
I haven't seen anything beyond the "say you need what you can get in 24 hours" so the news picks it up
Yea thats the only thing Ive heard as well.
It's sound advice. Which is why I love Thor. Very practical and lives on data
God typing is hard this morning. Must be because I don't have my morning cup of Thor
π
Morning cup of Thor sounds so strange. It sounds like you want to drink his essence (which I don't think is what you want) π
It's just a polymorph potion that turns you into a ferret
π
thanks bro π
If anyone is into ESO you should check out Spantifical on twitch she is giving some sweet tips about the current event
Now is the time to fill the maelstrom arena sticker book
Im sorry for thisβ¦but @nimble pivot the latest public short is fuckin phenomenal and I really wish PocketPair would recognize it..almost feel like joining their discord to promote it. Beautifully done. 
I just watched it again cause the splicing is perfect with the voice over
Im now using it instead of the steam page to advertise it to friends. Best.
Is he goin live?
found this in the chat
Sir Goblinlord.
PirateSoftware, Thor, Thor the God of Thunder, Thor King of the Pirates, Thor the Goblinlord, Thor the God of 7
Am I missing something?
Oh yes...
Way too many..
Whoever made those socks, well done! (Also I seriously need new ones xD)
these might be them https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CNVXJS6T/
BUY ALL THE SOCKS

That is thor
Someone needs to send this shirt next
heartbound twice
Thondalf the grey.
Yes, seen it, accepted it.
Nothing we can do it. It hurts but it is there
I know what you are going through Mojito, I truly do.
intentional
why does it hurt? Dude... two main paths, two roles. Check them out, they're NOT identical
I think it's related to the ARG too
But definitely intentional, someone's asked about it on stream before and Thor confirmed.
You seem very passionate about that
We get so many tickets about that ^^
You can choose if you want to be a jerkface or a nice person. Feed Baron garbage or dog food. Your choice. Two paths π
it's a core element of the game and I think it's pretty neat 
To be fair, it would probably help things if the two were more distinctively different - although I have no idea if that's even feasible with the ARG stuff shrug
Ohhh, darksider/guardian. I didn't realise that at all
He got invited to the streamer awards, I don't think nominations have been fully decided yet. (Although, very likely he'll get nominated/win, IMO)
Going to vote for him now.
That could be made a bit clearer. If you get tickets about it so much It prob means it's confusing for some people
haha
Anyways. I'm gonna go do stuff
told you, two hearts π Now that you have that knowledge, you could go and try different things in the game ^^
Thank you so much!! 
Don't have it. Haven't gotten myself to go check it out. Gotta pirate the demo first tho.
well go on and check it out then 
Fine...
I will go pirate the demo
Always having to do goblin stuff like pirating demos
You mods give us goblins too little appreciation
that's because Thor doesn't feed us!
well atm we don't eat anything
also someone asked about DLSS in Palworld at beginning of stream and there are settings for that
Sadge
Mods have no food = goblins get loose
Goblins get loose = I gotta do goblin responsibilities
I want a break. Been a rough week. Bad sleep, problems, brother crashing car etc.
I think there are better chats for this and sowwy I won't be pressing links on this server like that
@signal steppe please post this in the gamejam channel
Being told by thor to stop watching the ferrets disturbed something in my brain and I'm shook. Like i figured the guy was spamming the bot in some way so i wanted to make sure he knows about it but then he took my joke seriously and now i imagined life without the ferts and i π₯Ίπ₯Ίπ₯Ί
Triggered π₯²
Its done, sorry I didn't know it was forbidden to post that kind of content here. βΊοΈ
what? What happened?
well you want to reach people doing the game jam so you'd have more luck posting it in the actual game jam channel π
Dont worry im exaggerating for jokes. I said the ferret thats been hugging people is uncomfortable after so many hours
The pixel one
Yup it makes sense! Goblin must gobl I guess 
oh alright ^^
I couldnt break its loop which means its being actively hammering the bot with the command
But Thor doesnt care so its all good
well you could always ask the user to stop doing that ^^
It doesnt actually bother me, i just wanted to make sure thor is aware and theres no foul play
oh yeah we looked into this yesterday. Not a bot π
π
For some reason i didnt get the playtime announcement till like an hour ago so im gonna go watch it, timestamp is 20:47:00 if anyone wants it
He should be able to play Boktai with the software: https://support.epilogue.co/hc/en-us/articles/10881213081756-Input-Auxiliary-Devices
A fundamental aspect of the gaming experience is the authenticity of the hardware's feel, which can be tweaked through the Input & Auxiliary Devices. This page presents settings aimed at replic...
that little red dot is the Netherlands
I tried Bundaberg root beer once........
y'all can keep it. lol
I never had gingerbeer
of any brand
did this man just take a sip of a bundaberg?
didn't know it was available in the US
doesn't bundaberg have more sugar than soda?
To accordance on Thor's talk of ChatMD, I was diagnosed with ADD (before the ADD diagnosis was combined with ADHD) when I was very young.
ADHD is very different from just being easily distracted. It's a chemical imbalance in your brain that impairs your brain's functions.
You can't correctly diagnose ADHD without a doctor.
*expand
Also Ritalin isn't the right solution for everyone even with ADHD.
For instance, when I tried it, it just gave me unbearable anxiety. It solved my ADHD, but it was hell with anxiety.
Bottom line, always talk to your doctor about any treatment options. They will know better than anyone what is likely to work for you specifically.
What was the game jam surprise?
It hasn't been revealed yet
@minor nymph
Who the hell fed Thor with Feet Disease?
I BEAT YOU!
NO
lmao!
I thought the rules didn't allow this!?
"β’ Adult Content
Do not post or discuss pornographic content in any part of the Discord."
well....

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Establish civilization.
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Sen...
asmon will be playing palworld as well today most likely
does this game have any kind of co-op?
if so, thor and asmon would be unstoppable lmao
4 player peer-to-peer/self-hosted, and up to 32 on a dedicated server
game has 300k concurrent players currently
holy
heard it first from thor, didn't know it was this popular :d
mod house sounds so cute lmao
Wow, my brain meats are running slow. I just realized the one day a week Thor doesnβt stream, is because itβs literally Thorβs Day. kthxbye.
Btw, for those who might not get the reference, the "Tiny hands, good for making weapons," is likely a Schindler's List reference.
Herr Schindler was a ranking member in WW2 Germany that gave just about all of his wealth to bribe and blackmail, through the course of the war, to minimize the number of Jews killed in concentration camps. When the more normal rank and file tried separating families and marching the children off to... a bad fate, that was the excuse Herr Schindler used to save them. That their tiny hands were needed for polishing the smaller caliber firearms and bullets. He wasn't a perfect man, but he was a good man, in a time and place where they were in short supply.

Fresh from the press and now another emote established.
Gotta clear that background and it's money.
Here's the money π
creepy thor
we getting bot raided
damn I was about the ask what is going on
Did Thor tell people to just guess the inv code to get in? Because that'd be hilarious
has thor commented on the ubisoft ownership drama?
That's like .003 demos
Now we know the price of demo
We did't see dark side of pokemon world.
my memory of childhood cartoons was a lot more like this
Is that Sonic X?
Yugioh
its yugioh'
ah, got it
I think it's on Netflix
the manga for that is ruthless
oh me too dude
its also free on the website!
really?
The official site for all things Yu-Gi-Oh! Watch full episodes from all four animated series, get the latest news, and find everything you would want to know about the characters, cards, and monsters of Yu-Gi-Oh!.
its official
oh that's what you meant
ye!
my niece and nephews watch it. But I don't remember exactly where. We've got a Fire tv so there's no telling which app they're using, lol
dude i love yugioh sm, hyperfixations got me in a choke hold for like a year now
and i grew up with the original manga back when it was a horror genre istead of a card game manga
my first exposure to yugioh was that too which like is funny but idk if i should have been reading it
I'm keeping myself safe by staring at the 20 years of complexity creep. The game already got my brother, I can't let it get me. My parents would be left all alone.
its not that bad if you play online cuz it does a pretty good job teaching you/only lets you play things where you can
also! if you really like the show and want more of it give the manga a shot cuz its a pretty different experience, like even when it reaches plots that are in the show like duelist kingdom. also if your able to find a service that has it darkside of demensions is a really good movie, its like an epilogue to the original show and does a really good job giving closure to the series and its got all the original voice actors
re: wellington discourse on stream
This came to me in a vision many moons ago, clearly it was a premonition
secret letter, uhhhhh
@high basalt what did you SEND?
Did Thor managed to change the picture for steamer awards?
that is for me and Thor to know
you shall never know
it is just a postcard with some stupid text π He makes it far worse than it actually it is, and it is deeply funny
"warcrimes" hahaha
okay war crimes are technically mentioned in it
what if it is a postcard saying "act deeply offended and angered by the contents of this postcard"
maybe it does. maybe it doesn't. you will probably never know
my favorite browser game just launched on steam! https://store.steampowered.com/app/2619250/Familiarsio/
what is this game?it's a compact monster-catching fest in an online multiplayer world. It also has some optional hard stuff for people who like a challenge.what's it like to play? 1 battle = 1 levelup, and the max level is 15. I don't want to waste your time with rpg grinding with only 20 Familiars in the game, you can max-out and understand all...
Can viewers play the submitted Games from the game Jam as for 6 months after the game jam has ended ?
Like Have a list of all the games summited before it gets removed from the list
I would guess that depends on what the individual developers/dev teams do with their itch_io page after the jam - I doubt Pirate Software themselves will maintain the entire list of submissions, especially that long after it's ended.

I finally did it. I cracked @minor nymph's code for his twitch password and it was so easy
where is that From ?
Neon Genesis Evangelion
whats the context, what does shaye want here
i missed some of the context, but i think to wrap it up
XD
Thor playing Palworld offline
"I'm not addicted, I can stop any time I want to!" - Thor
is it arguably unhealthier to interrupt a good flow state?
Yeah but I'd rather see it lol
Top review
https://steamcommunity.com/id/PirateSoftware/recommended/1623730/ link for you if you see it good too
Kitboga - isn't it the guy that trolls Indian scammers in the scam call centers?
Yes, it's totally him! π
Is he dropping frames/stuttering, or is that just me?
Just you
Guess you've just got slow Internet.
The stream is fine for me.
And I watch in 1080p.
PirateBaking Logo Make It Happen 
I am deeply disturbed by chat's cursed carbonated drink suggestions
is that the curse quest for this stream?
Nah, Thor just got on the topic of Soda Streams
In australia there are stores where you can pull up to a drive through window like mcdonalds and buy alcohol
Here's an example of the Australian drive through liquor store
yeah exactly
thankfully down here in tasmania you wont find them
but on the mainland its the majority of stores
they come out to your car and ask what you want
chats getting botted
Defense mode is what deals with this.
i know but god damn theyre trying hard
Battlebots live
Love that π
You can see the message just for a split second before it gets deleted π
is he getting them all? on my end i see some as not banned
Bot beats bot π
there should be a thor quotes channel
this man says some funny shit and i wanna post stuff from it out of context
Bots are testing the chat now π
People botting their streams are cheaters. People botting someone else's stream to tank their reputation are scumbags.
Yeah, so that's a thing π
maybe i'm a bot and i dont know π
And maybe you are a bot and you don't know it π
reminds me of the forbidden phrase.
every time your tells people about it, somebody decides to test it lmao
*Thor
bots got emp'd
i would like to read the chat again π’
There's still people to this day that randomly say "Mountain Dew" in the chat in a VERY specific way, and keep getting nuked
Think you'll have to send an unban request
what was with mountain dew, was that a bot at some point?
I think Mountain Dew is just an old, longstanding meme on the channel
BUGSES
1gbit fiber to slow NotLikeThis, ill go 8gbit then
How do you join a cursed quest.
It's a channel point reward, 5k points, but there's only one available per day
Ohhh interesting.
Does it just queue you up? Or do you have to burn the points for a chance?
It closes after someone claims it, and Thor gets around to it usually the day of. So no queue typically, it's just whoever gets it.
Oh neat. I'll do that some time then.
Good luck! It's usually gone within a minute of the stream going live π
This cursed quest entry is the worst thing my eyes have ever seen
Mountain Dew is for some reason something that Thor dislikes. This soda is not sold here in Czechia, so I don't know how it tastes.
It taste like lime and regert, you arent missing much
Fairly sure the reason it's banned because in one of the bot attacks, they started spamming "mtn dew"
lol I try to hit it at least once a stream.
We have lime sodas here as well π
So yeah, not much π
Doritos has entered our market recently, and I was kinda disappointed by the taste.
Chios tastes much better IMHO.
mtn dew is like a strange flat taste. Neon green. It's very much a strange soda.
I thought it just times you out for saying it - and I think I caught Thor saying it was a meme a few streams ago, but someone else may know better - correct me if I'm wrong!
Tullamore Dew much better π
If you don't know what it is, just google it π
Well, just kidding. It's like Jack Daniels, but Irish π
I don't want to download games in the jam to play them. It's an unnecessary security risk on my end.
I do have a VM I could run it in, but I would have to disconnect the Internet from it, and make extra safety precautions to make sure a potential malware doesn't seep through into the host.
I just gotta say that if you submit a malware, you're gonna have a really bad time from the judges.
Sucks that there are such losers that do that.
And if your game won't run without an Internet connection, you likely won't win. Judges actually run the games in a VM with Internet disconnected and completely isolated from the host.
So I can play it with myself? π
I wanna get that gameboy operator but just remembered I already have a gameboy
That's neat. I remember games like this on MS-DOS.
Yeah You absolutely could play it by yourself.
It's pretty addictive with another person though.
its not sold in the eu because the dye is carcinogenic or something like that
ah, it contains bromine
which apperently causes lung damage
I actually wanted to make a game for MS-DOS (that you can run in the real MS-DOS machine), and with networking drivers installed and enabled, you could potentially play it over LAN or even the Internet - the only thing I would have to do is a broker server that would connect you with the other player to play online (true P2P game).
That game in question is called "Battleships" π
And this is the game we used to play in schools on grid paper.
I see. Well, that makes sense. Now I definitely don't want it π
How do you add a ferret into the avatars?
Hey y
oh my goood
Hey ya'll, any way I can resend a TTS? I mucked up and I don't have enough mons to do another one
Super mad at my fingers
Did he answer your TTS?
If not, just wait, maybe he'll figure it out.
It went to the queue.
There are 88 TTS messages in queue, and 33 was answered already. There's a good chance that your question is somewhere in the middle of that, it will take just couple of minutes to get to it.
β
ah thank you friend, much appreciated
I'll type the rest of my message and finish it in chat, hopefully he'll see it
when it goes through
I'm in the dark LOL and the ' is next to enter 
You either have DE/CZ keyboard (and ' is pressed with Shift), or you lack a key next to it, using an EN keyboard.
EN, yep
you lucky duck
@minor nymph https://support.epilogue.co/hc/en-us/articles/10881213081756-Input-Auxiliary-Devices
here it supports it through settings
I'm heading to bed and this is a last ditch effort to get that information to you but you would probably find it anyway.
night mate
A fundamental aspect of the gaming experience is the authenticity of the hardware's feel, which can be tweaked through the Input & Auxiliary Devices. This page presents settings aimed at replic...
lol it does say stream chat
you saw nothing
That's interesting tho. I have a British keyboard, which is labeled with # symbol on it (and ~ with Shift), but when I switch to EN layout, it types \ instead (and | with Shift).
Guess US layout?
US yup
Yes, when I switch to UK EN layout, it does write # π
I use CZ layout majority of time, which is based on DE layout with QWERTZ.
But we do also have QWERTY layout, I'm just not used to it.
Some people are tho.
its the only one I've ever used, but when I'm tired my fingers fumble
I did have CZ keyboard, but accidentally spilled some water in it and managed to short circuit it π
And UK keyboard was the only one that was on stock π
oh nooo 
I don't mind, I can still type just fine, even our national accented letters, I remember their positions π
Well, it should be fine if you immediately plug it off, disassemble it and let it dry for a while. But you can't do that with laptop keyboard.
So yeah, I had a laptop keyboard shorted.
Oops π
Luckily it didn't affect the motherboard, which is the only relieve I had.
Do you know how many characters a TTS message can have? Since I wasn't able to fully type it out before I sent, I didn't want to make the last bit of it too long for Thor
I don't know. I guess the limit is set by Twitch?
You could ramage through the documentation of Twitch for it.
Wait, the Heartbound OST is on YT? Is it on Spotify as well?
Nah not on Spotify, only YT I believe
I see. That's a shame tho. I know that it is on Steam for purchase, but I'd like to listen to it on Spotify, where I pay for Premium.
same here, although it seems they had a lot of issues with it. Spotify absolutely sucks to artists though
you can always play them on there as local files but ik that is work
I regret nothing chat, enjoy new toy π
I do actually have some music downloaded (illegaly, that was before I even discovered Spotify), but I don't listen to that frankly.
But yeah, I know you can add local music files to the Spotify library.
So I would navigate to the OST and add the folder to the local library.
But then I can't listen to it in my mobile phone.
ye i hate that you cant even do remote stream with local musci
it'd be amazing if they allowed you to listen to locally added music on a phone as long as that local music spotify is "on"
because i almost never shut down my computer xD
I do. That wouldn't work out for me, sadly. But I guess I'd likely listen to it on streams mainly, so that means that's okay.
Is there a place i can put a photo of my cat? He is joining me for the current stream.
#pets-and-plants in case you don't see the channel: pets_and_plants channel in the "hobbies" section. might have to activate the "hobbies" section in id:customize
I have it thanks! I just couldn't see it cuz i have so many roles/channels.
My cat left me before i could get a photo so it doesn't matter anyway π€£
How do I add a ferret to the stream avatars?
A ferret avatar with my name?
My guess is by subscribing? π€
I don't think so
I think it's just being active in chat
it starts popping up
if you're talking about the ferret avatars in the stream chat
you need to be a sub as otherwise the ferrets would explode with all 10,000 people in chat
after you Sub you just have to type in chat and you get a little ferret avatar on screen
Oh, that's great.
So the ferret is added by chatting for the first time as a sub?
That's neat.
RIP my TTS dude 
Did it just play?
It's like 2 away 
Which direction?
Setteal, same here
Oh, ok.
Mine is essentiually the same, just with the word "The" prefixed π

Cuz just CZghost was taken already when I made my Twitch account. So I just rolled with it.
Yes.
gotcha
I then applied it to elsewhere. Twitter, here on Discord (my username, CZghost is actually display name), and Steam username is also TheCZghost.
Yeah π
The only place someone had my user was Twitter
Only my Minecraft username is the same as my Discord display name. And Xbox gamertag is CZghost6099 
Same here! Mines some weird numbered one on xbox too 
Somehow the only place where mine was taken was on steam of all places.
My dad just sent me a personality test quiz. He's literally in a room next to mine 
steam?
Yeah
thats SUPER weird
Oh boy π
the trauma remains 
if he does it during ads I won't see it π
Just keep track of #answered-tts
It's cut off unfortunately
Eh, a handful of randos out of 12k complaining isn't much to worry about. Thor just about encourages spamming for visibility from what I've seen.
Thanks Lila. Just wanted to share my story and get his opinion, since I really value it
I donβt know if you saw my reply Setteal
He uses the OBS plugin for YouTube/Twitch
Thatβs the one he prefers
Ah, thanks I appreciate it!
Wow, I can spell. I need more coffee!
Thatβs what happened to my tts, I typed in the dark and pressed enter too fast 
I just made a personality test, and it turns out I'm a Logician.
Donβt lose momentum and keep looking.
Thatβs means more to me than you know.
This is what I learned about myself.
I feel that Introverted so hard man
Also, sorry for the heavy stuff. Yβall have fun on stream ya? 
Being introverted doesn't mean I don't like social contact at all. It just means I don't typically seek social contact and I often feel quite disconnected and unheard if I'm being in one, however I do sometimes make a social contact, it has to be worth it tho.
I'm so hungry.
i just woke up, why do i feel hurt now 
There's more to it. 
Yeah, that's me. Often I miss deadlines, because I want my project to be perfect.
And that's why I don't really like setting up a deadline.
Yeah. GameJam isn't the best thing for me to compete in π
And I make myself a trouble with so many projects I want to start and try out - I make myself flooded with my own ideas. I think of something and that's a new idea spark - and then something else. And something else. And I end up starting like dozens of projects all at once π
And I have to freeze like 90% of them because I don't have that kind of time and money to begin with.
What? What did I miss?
What did I miss? 
Nothing, I just figured you'd like to eat popcorn with me
Palworld doesn't have any official servers?
You have to host it yourself or find a server to connect to?
I knew Thor was gonna kill something from the moment he read that animal crossing question
βIs this animal crossing?β
Thor: pulls out gun βYou tell meβ
i believe thats the case
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Stuart-Little just in case people don't believe the fact book Stewart Little is not a mouse.
Stuart Little, childrenβs book by E.B. White, published in 1945. The episodic story of the title character, a two-inch-tall boy who resembles a mouse, is noted for its understated humour, graceful wit, and ironic juxtaposition of fantasy and possibility. Despite his diminutive statureβhis family is
Yes, this is true. This is the case for most Survival Craft games (Valheim, Volcanoids, Ark.... Minecraft was that way at one point too)
beans be fuckin
Already on it, thank you for the heads up!
I'm pretty sure there is official servers.....
Apparently there is not for Xbox/GamePass users
As neat as Palworld is I hope we get a normal stream tonight
Does anyone has the link to the black batches challanges that thor completed?
no stream today?
No Access even tho I have all roles, weird
The suit man got him
F
You need to untick those roles.
Yeah just figured
ty
reading is my weakness
Have a good night of work @minor nymph I just finished feeding the baby, so... I get sleep now!
Sleep well Sorro
really want this in Palworld. Old good double-barrel
thanks!
But what suit captain Thor got 
Lvl 39
Mr. Witcher, the itching wiggler (DALL-E 3)
Oh good, a three handed sword for the three legged ferret. Wait.... >.>
There is a shotgun in palworld
Oh yeah I just got shotgun ammo, but haven't unlocked the shotgun yet.
Yeah same!!
wow. points TTS are now 50k. time to save up
How fast are they supposed to build up? In 12 hours I get like 1.2k? I gotta listen for a month for that!
Idk if that's a bug on android mobile or what
I dunno, it depends on multiple factors like clicking the reward box + your subscription level
you get an amount per amount of time multiple by a factor regarding whether your'e subbed or if you're higher tier subbed
i watched like 2 months now, in fact my stream streak is 51 now and i have 180k points
Maybe it's because I listen and turn my screen off sometimes
omg
it is a thing now

yes because everyone kept sending mod tickets how the redeem is broken when it was on cooldown, so the option was to remove it completely or increase the price, thus it is now 50k redeem
Aight, thanks
Can someone tell me the lore of the number 7 please
777777777777777777
If you're restoring cast iron, you can use electrolysis and do it in like 2 hours after letting it sit overnight
Use a car battery charger, it'll pull all the rust out of the pores even, way better than sanding
Something happen with the community being stupid about Palworld? Last I saw on stream (while playing) Thor was laughing off the normal "How is this legal? Pokemon did it first" comments. The recent on stream comment about Nintendo vs Palworld mentioned twitter and seemed a bit angrier in tone
its just the way he does, sometimes it sounds 100% serious and sometimes it sounds funny
just goblins not understanding copyright laws which is little worrying knowing we have lot of devs here
Maybe five days of people bombarding chat with the same question made him realize it was something worth addressing in earnest.
@minor nymph Hey Hello Hi, Excuse me to interrupt, i have a question, hope you can help, i have bought some course videos played through the drmsoft player, to be short is there anyway to work arround the stupid "prevent copy/paste" option that apparently the course owner has enabled it while encrypting due to lack of knowwledge while using the drmsoft software btw also there is anti-screen record, help please i want to be able to use cpy/pst (my pc) while watching the course on other screen
yeee, people are getting increasingly stupid about it, calling it "asset flipping AI slop" on twitter, at which point they're just being a dick towards the team of artists that have spent the last 2-3+ years working their asses off to build a game with over a million concurrent players within 48h and 93% positive reviews
as replied to you in #general_chat
1 - #piracy-requests may apply to your request as your trying to circumnavigate copy protection stuff built into the tool
2 - copy/pasting the content is counter productive if your goal is to learn, the time you spend typing, etc massively increased the retention rate of the content your learning, if you bypass that with copy/paste, your rate of learning is going to go way down.
guys, has Thor checked the pokemon mod for palworld?
i like palword but its so uncanny that i feel like nintendo might prepare a lawsuit in the background. like id like some confirmation that it's "safe" before investing insane hours into it, i dont give fucks about nintendo otherwise
there is legally nothing they can sue them over, all nintendo is taking from this is probably adding monster catching to the next Zelda game if anything seeing how popular Palworld is
there are multiple other monster collection games that have been out there for a while. Why do you think this one is more likely to be shut down then all of those others?
"Monster collection" is a genre.
Because they look like pokemon but arent pokemon i guess
thats what i meant with uncanny valley
its eerily similar but at the same time not
idk how to phrase it properly
It's looks and people are pathethic for crying over it
they could be pokemon i guess
They are monsters, you can't really make 100 creatures in a similar setting/vibe look that different
but you can pick an familiar artstyle
Of course they take inspiration from Pokemon.
listen i dont really care who cries or not. my point is that im currently sceptical investing lots of hours into a game i cant know the outcome for sure
Who cares about the god damn visuals π It's a slave survival etc game.
and usually you dont get the "lets see if that survives" feeling
thats it. thats the take. so i wait and see
also keep in mind palworld was announced like 2 years ago, had nintendo had any issues with it they already would had sued it over long time ago
Let me sum up this messy show: Palworld is a game about catching or killing special creatures and using them as slaves to evolve in the game. It has a lot of survival mechanics. Pokemon is about catching special creatures and making them your companion. Then you travel accross the world and catch more pokemons by fighting them with your own. You may meet other "trainers" and have a pokemon fight with them.
no no i am not trying to copy/paste the protected content! --- the issue i have is i cannot use the copy/paste to clipboard functionality in generall for anything litteraly anything in explorer and/or apps while watching the protected content say like if you want to copy a file or an image or even some plans or sketches of mine to or from any place to other the drm player software blocks the copy /paste function, help if u can i am not trying to do anything immoral or illegal, thank you
It just has special creatures that follow similar theme as Pokemon. If they were all zombies
That took suspiciously long to write π
then close the DRM software when your doing stuff not related to it.
Rev - have you seen Temtem? from what have seen that follows the Pokemon formula much closer then palworld.
I haven't see enough palworld to disagree and the bits I have seen, I can see how you could conclude that... but isn't pokemon just animal fight trainers wandering around? there isn't any requirement in that world for trainers to friend the pokemon... in fact I believe ones who don't are actualy a plot point here and there in the shows.
Nintendo will go after Palworld... just as soon as they're done going after TemTem, Casette beasts, Digimon, Dragon Quest, etc... π
It's just a silly take all around really. People just want to find a reason to feel justified hating it, methinks. Happens anytime something blows up the way Palworld has.
intresting... what I saw from Thor playing it, it looked like a reasonable well done game for the genre, the graphics looked good, gameplay seemed consistent/etc.
just not my specific cup of tea, doesn't mean I am going to hate on it just because it was successful... the fact that it was successful makes me want to learn why so I can take said experiance into account with stuff I make.
there are few reasons why its popular, PC games for one dont really have any monster battle games let alone one that allows up to 4 players. Pokemon has tried to go into the open world and has seemingly just failed badly, but Palworld managed to pull it off so this is more or less what everyone been hoping for to see from nintendo for a long time now
I'm still confused, I asked on stream what gnoming and the coin are ( #answered-tts message ) but I only got a vague answer, can anyone explain it to me?
there a popular Gnome meme that if you sent it to someone it means you got "Gnomed", Thor has never fallen for this and has challenged anyone to try and Gnome him, if you manage to do so he will send you his challenge coin
So you just gotta get him to watch it somehow? I thought it was a hacking thing >_< no wonder I was confused
ye the video with the sound essentially
On know your meme it sent me to a place about some dude putting gnomes in your front yard and all that stuff, so I got real confused
I'm pretty sure he said go look at that
π π€ I am not huge on open world myself... but my limited experience with said games is that they tend to have a lot of samey filler content.
Definitely something for me to ponder... in general I would rather have a 5-10 hour experience with new content the whole way through then a 60+ hour experience were most of the content is basically repeats...
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sites/get-gnomed-dark-web I was on this article.. I'm an idiot. Thanks for clarifying
Get Gnomed is an onion website on the dark web (accessible via the Tor browser) in which a buyer can purchase a "gnoming" service that entails garden gnomes being anonymously placed at a selected person's address, invading their daily life and creeping them out. The website became well-known on TikTok in 2022 and 2023 due to TikToker Thunder Kec...
with open world its usually about the leveling progress which palworld borrows from games like ARK and conan exiles, you could add a story and side missions too
What PokΓ©mon are these? Did Nintendo sue?
so the MMORPG experience in a single player/multiplayer game without the whole MM part is something people look for in games these days?
i mean every person has their own taste in games, i enjoy palworld just by myself, but the fact we are allowed to do 32 people servers is appealing considering we never had a Pokemon game with online anything really
kind of like monster hunter world became popular coming to the PC for more or less first time and has 4 player online
sure, I understand... I don't care for the palworld style game myself (or at least it didn't look interesting to me from seeing it playing)... but that could mean that my tastes are in a minority group and therefore, if I wanted to do something commercial, it would be worth figuring out the overlap/edge of something I would like that could feature things that are making other games successful.
that or you need to really understand what people who like that genre/type of game your making and make sure you market to them (sometimes a smaller market segment can be a good hit as you can hit a large part of that small segment with a good game due to lack of games targeting that segment)
well enough pondering for today.
i played wow for 10 years solo, so yes.
wow... I think I got to around level 30... and the game [to me] was a loop of "kill mobs" -> level up/new gear -> new location -> loop... and lost interest in the game as it was so samey
the few group dungeons I went on, were at least somewhat interesting (assuming you got a reasonably ok group and didn't have a tank/DPS that blames the healer for everything)
Full vid:
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I missed what the ai conversation was about. Short tldr?
about the implication that the Palworld devs were using ai
people on twitter keep accusing palworld of being "AI generated shovelware", and copying pokemon, despite having exactly zero evidence to back up either of those claims

Has anyone seen that Atari filed for trademark on βRogueβ?
I saw an article about that.. linked on reddit maybe?
Yes, r/roguelikes is where I saw it. My game has Rogue in the title π«
It's hilarious really - "Shovelware" that's #3 all-time on steam - something doesn't add up with that take, but I can't put my finger on it... 
i like the 30+ identical trademark applications
I saw this, just wondering what kind of implications this may have.
absolutely none π€·ββοΈ just like the 30 other applications haven't had any
well, maybe one:
atari intends to release some product using that name, and are covering their ass π
Iβm hoping this is the case. My steam page is in review currently
but yeah, there's like 7 of those every year π€·ββοΈ
Yeah, and if anything were to come of it there are so many games with rogue in the title. I saw something that said Atari may have purchased βrogueβ in 2023?
although technically none of those are in the category of games i guess
Thatβs what I was concerned about
you're really not going to have anything going for you if there's an entire category of games named after your trademark though π
And two genres or sub genres
okay is anyone wants to make a jansen linkage you can calculate them https://www.geogebra.org/m/ZrfP4xU3
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a friend and I are hoping to make a combat robot with one
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Cowboy hat Jeff has to be my favorite
For all the people wondering why Nintendo hasn't sued over Palworld, the other thing is that Nintendo doesn't even own Pokemon. Gamefreak does. Nintendo doesn't even own half the company, they only own 32% of it, and have little to do with it's inner workings.
Nintendo just has exclusive rights to use the franchise.
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Anyone know what I am supposed to do for AOC?
umm... play the game???
Thor said to put in a ticket for something
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also, while disturbing I may have been working on a functional version of this image as a stream overlay to interact with streamerbot so that Thor could eat bits and superchats like hungry hungry hippos but... now ive seen this though not sure i should finish it :/
perfect, exactly where that should go
thats actually very space efficient, you can put the chests underneath and it wont count as overlapping
dumb bug but useful
Doxxer in stream chat π¦
wait what exactly happened there? Had the stream on mute xd
dummy posting addresses in chat
oof
Because I heard it so many times today. "The word of the day is litigious"
I feel bad that I didnβt watch the stream today. Palworld looked like a really fun game on the surface, but after buying it, the weird cruelty that the game uses just got to be a bit much. The game is kind of depressing in a way. π¦
after the amusement wore off, playing the game just made me feel icky
anyone else?
Im desensitized to it, even more because its a game
playing heartbound will cure that
Iβll have to play some heartbound tonight to fix it π
I thought I would be desensitized to it more than I ended up being.
After playing pokemon games for going on 30 years, I couldnβt disconnect all the childhood memories I had of my pokemon from what Palworld had going on.
It appears as if you missed this part of the accusations: https://fxtwitter.com/covingtown/status/1749462735291859423
To βaccidentallyβ create a complex model mesh with so near-exact proportions is practically impossible. To repeat that improbability throughout your rosterβ¦ doesnβt pass the sniff test. #Palworld #Pokemon
(Media credit: @byofrog)
also a lot of people not looking into the company's other properties, which are also very blatant ripoffs.
Hmm interesting to see what'll happen.
Oh no they copied the basic shape of a wolf, lizard, and lion? π±
Game devs work in, remakes and βripoffsβ pong with x, astroids but with x, dark souls itβs a different mythology base.
I'm just taking a wait and see approach while playing the game. I do recognise the artstyle similarities for example between wooloo and lamball, but I don't know enough and tbh I don't care enough
I'm enjoying this game and that's what matters to me
Itβs a very good game it resembles ark more then PokΓ©mon gameplay wise but itβs only visuals that are the βproblemβ
And they canβt own a style so weβll see how it goes.
indeed
I mean I doubt they copy pasted it like this 'tweet' suggeted
create a complex model with "near-exact"
so they created something but it's different? But not different enough according to the twitter user
Dunno, I don't really think Nintendo needs my help
Yep same, Iβve wanted a open world combat PokΓ©mon since arceus barely itches the surface but was just a collectables gathering game, since Nintendo didnβt have the Gaul to continue that line of games this is huge and I love it.
Honestly Nintendo fans just need to shut up.
In general. I'm tired of them.
Defending some of the worst companies in the industry and pushing them further towards their usual destruction isn't doing anyone any favors.

True, I don't mind them shouting into the void. I'm personally an enjoyer of pokemon
Though I'm not an enjoyer of Nintendo. 
it's not like their shouting is going to chane anything. It won't change the outcome of a lawsuit (if that'd happen), and it won't make people who bought the game not buy it.
Though I did hear there were some death threats from nintendo stans against the devs of Palworld, that is obv illegal and immoral
I wish they didnβt threaten them, but I put my support behind the devs cause thatβs fβd
Indeed, it's similar with that hogwarts legacy controversy
people being abusive and cruel and bullying and death threats to others
And I supported the devs of that to cause no one should have to deal with that.
well I try to 'support' them in the sense that I oppose any horrible behaviour like that.
pork hog leg thing was dumb
Thor caught a bunch of flak for even playing that game on stream, lots of negative "reviews" on Heartbound and people generally being donkeyholes to him
Indeed, though I think some people's steam accounts were banned for it, good riddance.
since steam review bombing for unrelated reasons is against steam TOS
and admitting you did it 'because the dev played Hogwarts' is kind of obvious
Not much else you can do other than buy the game and I didnβt have the money so I supported them and would make sure they knew that was terrible for that bs.
arguing with the evildoers is useless, but reporting them works best I think
Reporting anyone on Twitter is a crapshoot unfortunately, whether they act on it is basically a matter of whether the post makes enough ad revenue for them or not, not the content of it 
More layoffs π¦ https://www.riotgames.com/en/news/2024-rioter-update
11% of staffbase. 530 +- employees
i have not, those are actually somewhat genuine, however,
have you considered the possibility that pocket pair did this with permission? because they've been very visibly copying things from nintendo for multiple years, that was also the controversy for craftopia, and somehow they still haven't been sued into the sun by nintendo.
Hey does anyone know what button crouch is on Palworld for Xbox one?
is it not B?
No.
Probably the stick button
check ur settings
its c for me
it looks like you can manually change the controls
You have c on a controller?
lolol
ur good lmao
Iβm not currently playing to check. I was wondering cuz I wasnβt able to do it last time played
I have noticed that when you feed a Pal it makes you crouched, and thatβs the only time I have seen it
Crouch is b by default in the settings
Probably assuming Microsoft/steamdeck layout
Me definitely not wondering if Iβm stupid enough that I gaslit myself into forgetting
my chat says I can't talk.... does anyone have this problem?
Iβm getting on the Xbox rn just to see if Iβm this dumb
You are right. I think I disregarded B because tapping it dodges. Holding it makes me crouch

It's not the "basic shape", it's literally the actual shape of the cribbed models. Maybe one or two minor adjustments to make them juuuuuuust legally distinct enough to keep Game Freak from suing them into the sun.
Not gonna lie, the format of todayβs stream is not my favorite. Too many people talking at once. 
There is the possibility, however, they're not only stealing from Nintendo products. They apparently also have a very sketchy Shovel Knight rip-off. It still doesn't sit right with me, given their apparent relationship to lazily using AI on 'borrowed' work.
I'm not a fan of having AI do the work of human artists/graphic designers for things, but it appears I'm in the minority here, and within the industry as a whole. I don't like where it's going, but then we have responses like the above "I'm enjoying this game and that's what matters to me".
Seems to be the prevailing attitude of the player base whenever something ethical in the industry comes up and it's really off-putting to me.
Oh itβs not the similarity itβs the supposed ai gotcha.
the supposed ai with exactly zero supporting evidence π
It's both, actually. I don't like the idea of some company stealing assets, feeding them to a robot, and having it shit out models on the cheap.
Nice song choice
you do know palworld was in development before stable diffusion was even released, right?
and that there are still no AI models that can make reasonable 3d models
let alone skinned and rigged ones
Again, love your tone, and love how you skip over my other point.
i've already addressed your other point, if it's a problem, nintendo will sue, it's not your job to white knight for nintendo π€·ββοΈ
White knighting, lmao. I frankly don't care if they sue, I'm just tired of hearing attitudes like yours that I should just not care about the implications of a game like this, where clearly the community doesn't give a flip about stolen assets and the possibility of AI using them. One day it's not gonna be Nintendo's assets, it's gonna start spreading to stealing indie game assets, and then what? Nobody will care.
Ganghis?
and i'm tired of hearing attitudes like yours,
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After the e?
I don't need to watch a video to know that. I just hope nothing you make ever gets stolen. This is frankly why I don't talk much online to gamer folk.
again, have you considered the possibility that the only reason pocket pair hasn't been sued into oblivion is that they have PERMISSION to use those assets?
have you, in your infinite wisdom, taken the 2.5 brain cells to consider that maybe they TALKED to nintendo about this shit?
The absurdity of the claim that Nintendo would give anyone permission to do anything though, lol. Like, it can be anything but that
A true goblin.
Thank you, you said it before I did, and much nicer to boot
3 milk is great.
yes, it's totally not dripping with sarcasm π
like, why does pixelmon still exist? that's a way more blatant ripoff
Oh well, sarcastic or not, still my point.
TTS activates for 500+ bits, ye?
and they supposedly got a cease & desist from nintendo
Who did? o_0
Rameo maybe?
pixelmon, in 2017
Likely because it's not making Palworld level money
oh π
That means they didn't follow through is all.
If they're in a country that doesn't care, it probably means nothing to them.
And given that it's a community project that's free and has tons of mirrors, eh, good luck taking that down
They make a ton 
With micro transactions in Minecraft
I'm honestly expecting that from Palworld in due time.
especially considering the violence level. They don't seem to really target mods hard unless the Poke-clones are being unalived
that's probably why they got a C&D.
Kansas is great this time of year worth an annex really
Yep and didnβt stop
they copyright strike fan smash tournaments, dafuq are you on about π https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/z8ws5j/nintendo_cancels_super_smash_bros_community/
anyway, time to stop arguing, it's clear you've made up your mind, enjoy screaming into the ether i'm done π
Cool your related can post the YouTube link in #advertising too
Oh gasoline how fun
Have you seen Smash players lose? I'd shut official tourneys down too π€£
Probably delete it then to be safe.
Fair enough, I have better things to do anyways, thanks for reminding me why I typically avoid ethics conversations.
So if ai was liscenced-in would you be fine with it?
With megatron?
Exactly, have artist get payed for giving data to opt in and id think generative ai would be a non issue.
The general of the decepticons
For?
Iβm glad
i'll just leave this here
Despite its colloquial hook of βPokΓ©mon with gunsβ, Palworld developer Pocketpair remains confident that the game will not incur any legal fallout or notices of copyright infringement from Nintendo.
While the team acknowledges PokΓ©mon as the βgreat predecessorβ for monster collecting games, in a separate interview Mizobe confirmed that the game has passed all legal reviews, and described Palworld as being mechanically closer to other sources of inspiration for the game, such as Ark: Survival Evolved.
Cool no problem speak about it here as itβs a game dev topic.
Vegans can be cool, you advocate for ethical opt-in generative ai? Is that what Iβm seeing?
I would still have concerns about AI being used, actually. I can see AI being used more and more to sharply cut costs and undervalue human artists, both in their talents and their pay grade. I can definitely see cheap companies, even and especially AAA ones, keeping an artist skeleton crew just to feed data to AI that will crappily cut/paste assets together for a company's profits. It'll put a lot of human digital artists at risk of losing livelihoods if we continue accepting it.
I have a problem with both the egregious asset-flipping/stolen art concept, and the concept of a company cutting corners and costs with AI instead of hiring out real artists to actually work on a project.
Iβm not afraid of a printer anymore. Itβs a useful tool and thatβs up to the artists to choose how to live making bank off of a large corporation by making assets for ai. Corpoβs are dying and have been for a while so each of us choose how to treat our fellow artists however both see fit if a artist chooses to not be apart of it then thatβs a loss for the company simple.
I don't like death threats in general, let alone to non-CEO's, nor do I blame the artists if they are directed to do devious theft and that's their livelihood. The blame comes down to garbage management who have decided to rip others off for profit.
Iβm sorry art concept? What do you mean by this the style?
no, I meant the concept of the egregious asset-flipping and stealing of art.
Opt in means your letting the artist choose to become apart of the data set otherwise youβd be scraping and thatβs a possible legal issue if it continues through court.
So the ai but whatβs an asset flip mean in this context?
I like neither the model cribbing nor the idea that they're possibly model cribbing and tossing it to a robot to spit out barely changed assets
Gotcha.
Cribbing?
I canβt find any information online on the use of the word.
Start from the top would be the way Iβd start.
To "crib" is to illictly copy someone else's work, especially without acknowledgement.
Or for house but a crib is normally a animal feeder so thatβs why the confusion.
Okay so forgery, trying to make an exact copy?
Bro giving the government secrets no way
Yeah notifying the local authorities is a great start for money counterfeits, I also donβt like murder but I dabble in video games.
a crib is a word for a baby bed, true. not sure why they're the same word.
Where is the words origin?
the example given by the dictionary definition I used to double-check hilariously used cheating off of someone nearby's test.
The word crib has multiple languages itβs evolved from so English isnβt the main one.
i'm imagining british slang for prison for some reason
the verb and the noun come from Dutch (krib, kribbe) and German (krippe), which came into Old English to describe a manger. again, unsure how they split off from there.
Oh part e of the 5th type of definition thatβs deep down their and forgery makes more sense
So your calling plagiarism based off of that definition?
Okay see you soon.
Some Palworld models barely hide what they are, it looks quite like theft to me. The Lucario one even shoots blue lasers ffs.
Okay so they are both Japanese and law matters here their is no fair use in Japan meaning itβs easy for Nintendo to legally attack anything thatβs legally grey within copyright or trademark and your talking about this logical concept so atm this is a non issue as they have had 3 years to ask them legally to stop, even in the us unless itβs a trademark or copyright itβs not against the law.
Oh noes, dragon quest stole pokemon's designs in...
Checks notes...
Idfk, before pokemon even existed?
Your talking about morals and thatβs you feelings and I can understand that it might feel wrong but they both are legal abiding citizens and legal action just based off of emotions donβt go far in court.
Well then that's on them. Doesn't mean I have to like what it means for the future of the gaming industry, that I'm clearly one of a small minority who actually does care. You can have fun playing Asset Flip With Guns, I don't care. But when AI's taken over art departments, it'll be a real problem.
Okay so you donβt like Thors games then?
Me too
I love this counter because it's not even a real counter. There's plenty of distinctness abound in the examples used.
what do you think about parody then?
Doesn't he pay an artist to work on his things?
Do you know if palworld did?
so does pocket pairπ
parody at least cites the works they are using and they're fair use because they're a parody. Palworld isn't a parody.
so having an artist work with blatant rip-offs is fine if they get paid?
Thatβs what we are asking you.
i don't think parody counts as fair use because you can commercialize it as its own IP
what are you yapping about with parodies? Is Palworld calling itself a parody of Pokemon?
if the purpose of parody is using a similar but distinct character to satirize a property, then what palworld does in using those similar but distinct characters as a part of its own world should be strictly better legally speaking by relying less on the other property
No I didnβt I replied to what you were talking about subjectly your confusing two conversations now.
Okay but it's not marketing itself as such, it's pretending it's something else entirely.
that's my point, and i'm saying its less problematic than parody
βso having an artist work with blatant rip-offs is fine if they get paid?β This was the question you made.
Yeah, I'm clearly confused because it's feeling like the conversations are going in the same direction
if parody is acceptable, intellectual property cloning/mutation is also acceptable
I love games, but Iβm good for now. I appreciate the offer.
the defense of "it's okay to steal stuff if it's a parody"
Whatβs stealing?
"if you pay at least one person to work with stolen material it's okay"
Whatβs stolen the concept of a creature? The visual style?
do i have to buy you a dictionary?
again, I'm pointing to the models that are struggling to define themselves against the models of the pokemon they look almost exactly like
You seem to be having trouble with usage of the word and conflating meanings so yes please explain so we are on the same page as the dictionary isnβt the always go to as you saw with crib.
Look almost exactly alike doesnβt mean stolen. Where is the evidence it has been taken.
Cool dude
omg I used a word in its non-typical usage and you're suggesting I don't know English, wow.
I showed it earlier, that's when this headache all started.
Never said you donβt know English I said the usage we are using to communicate are differing and causing conflict
you're being pedantic
Pokemon seems to be stealing from Dragon Quest and real life. 
Iβm being considerate about maybe their is a miscommunication cause atm your stating that palworld stole actual assets from PokΓ©mon and as such should sue im asking where is the actual evidence cause what you showed was similarity not evidence.
Unless they actually ripped the models and used them for their models then thatβs illegal but if they took inspiration then thatβs not theft.
Thatβs the issue here, youβve been skitting around
variations on character designs are an acceptable practice, the next critical factor to consider is how they're used in the work, and pals are distinct from pokemon because there's a significant amount of work done to define the jobs system in the framework of a survival crafting game
ye, gameplay is nothing like pokemon π
and game mechanics aren't copyrightable anyways
well we'll see if nintendo thinks their trademark or copyright is being infringed upon. It's not like they're unable to sue due to lack of funds or are a smal company
Nintendo has taken many actions to protect their trademark and copyright in the past.
Both nationally and internationally.
And Palworld devs are Japanese i believe
They are both based in Japan, which would faciliate a lawsuit quite easily.
I'm not advocating for suing (even if they should), I'm advocating for us not supporting a game that barely tiptoes the line of an asset flip. We don't have solid evidence, which requires a scouring of the company's computers, so the use of ripped models from recent Pokemon games and comparing them to Palworld models and having them shown side by side and inside each other to show how near-perfectly matching they are is all we really got. Unless somebody's gonna hack into their servers and rip files off their server to prove it, or they gets sued and they have to provide evidence, it's the best we've got. You can float around saying "that's proof it's nothing alike", but it doesn't pass my personal smell test.
This isnβt the gaming community being lackadaisical about theft itβs the community asking where is the evidence. Your call on ai is also not based on any evidence other than itβs bad so we are waiting to see what comes out this isnβt a dig at you itβs to express our side.
yee i love this whole "we need to protect the megacorporation from the indies, the multi-billion dollar company with a legal team the size of a small country is clearly in no position to defend their own copyrights and trademarks"
I personally don't see this as an asset flip. It's clear a lot of the models were inspired from real life / pokemon and dragon quest.
However, inspiration does not equal an asset flip. Perhaps a few models are eerily similar, but we don't know if they were ripped.
So treating them as guilty before proven innocent. Never gonna do that honey.
Indeed, I mean even The Day Before got better treatment than Palworld and the assets were easil ypicked from the stores. 
The AI claim isn't coming from out of nowhere, the CEO has expressed a lot of concerning positive thoughts on AI in the past, including posting Fakemon: https://www.siliconera.com/how-does-the-palworld-ceo-feel-about-ai/
Yeah it sounds like a hitpiece.
And what does that have to do with actual use in the game process?
I have not heard of any actual evidence in palworld the game, it's based on "positive statements from the CEO about AI"
Are we going to judge an entire game and dev studio based on positive remarks from a CEO?
good job, he actually responded to buzzfeed posting AI-generated pokemon
I REALLY don't like your tone.
Donβt bait them here itβs a civil conversation.
I saw what you posted and that's disgusting
imma just leave discord for a while π
Death threats are disgusting yes
Thatβs fine take a moment
I'm not advocating for death threats, good lord
Anyway if you don't like the game, don't buy it. And if you like the game, buy it. I don't see a reaso nfor this to be so heated.
We are on the same page then
This is heated?
I don't see a legal issue with palworld as of yet and I have not seen a moral issue regarding the devs yet.
This conversation could be one if youβd like.
I have heard about some other projects from the devs, but no idea what happened there so I can't make any claims or judgments
it started to it seems.
Have to ask the other percipients though for publication
I don't think the artists, programmers, etc. deserve death threats if they're working on a project that's become poisoned with very shady CEO decisions.
Oh you mean the bait?
and the statement after and the retraction, I think it was wise of the participant to leave chat
What decision was made in the game process again?
Correct.
I'm speaking generally for any project as a blanket statement
I mean CEOs also don't deserve death threats. Bad decisions fro mCEOs should not result in death threats either.
You might think they are being terrible morally or legally, in whic hcaes boycotting is fine, it's your money and your voice.
Great aircraft.
I mean CEO's as well, even if they're the likes of Bobby Kotick. For men like them, I advocate being purged from the industry and blacklisted for eternity.
Thank you for clarifying. And I agree that for quite a few people being ousted from teh industry might be for the best
Kotick deserves to rot in a jail call for eternity.
Being sarcastic mb.
I've heard some things about Kotick, but I don't remember what the allegations were, only that he had a bad rep seemingly deservedly
ooh, you should read what happened to the unalived woman, you will pine for him to rot in a gulag.
I've mostly been busy with Richard Garriott and other ones
oh in that case it sounds like the police should be involved
I'm gonna leave on that, I have work in an hour. It's been a frustrating time, probably won't engage again. Take care.
Oh he threatened to have his former assisteant killed, wow... that's horrifying
(whoops, bopped the keyboard lol)

